Champion Stadium

[cinder summit]

Skyla & Swanna

Acquisition:

Main Story

Alternates:

Skyla (Holiday 2020) & Togekiss
Skyla (Anniversary 2022) & Tornadus

[frank shuttle]

Oh her 😂

[fiery canopy]

yep

[rotund lagoon]

You got Diantha and Lucian, use first slot for Sp Atk/Crit buffer

[toxic cobalt]

Eh how much damage is she doing before first sync?

I don't really know what SS Mina does

[rotund lagoon]

Idk I don’t have her

I have SS Mina’s kit pulled up

[fiery canopy]

kk!

[rotund lagoon]

She only buffs Sp Atk, not even Crit

[toxic cobalt]

3/5 Hilbert is a good Skyla replacement

[rotund lagoon]

She can also buff Df and Sp Df, but only one rank per Rain Dance use

[frank shuttle]

Giga Impact is a physical move so Sp Atk won't help that much though I thought?

[rotund lagoon]

Yee that’s why I’m suggesting an Atk/Crit buffer. SS Mina is just for zone

[frank shuttle]

Ooh got ya

[toxic cobalt]

It's impressive how unable I am to test any of this

[rotund lagoon]

She can also use B Protect if you really need to, but I’m sure NY Lisia will wipe that team before you can

[rotund lagoon]

Freaking same

[frank shuttle]

I suck time to kill them with Ash

[rotund lagoon]

Hang on one second.

There are multiple reasons things could be going wrong, you do not need to resort to him so quickly.

It all comes down to the gameplay itself, so let me ask some things. What parameters are you using for example? Are you triple queuing and not queuing when sync is ready?

[frank shuttle]

But it's Ash

[rotund lagoon]

+helpfaq

[frozen depot]

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[frank shuttle]

I think I know the problem I have some parameters set to strong against some stuff I need to change 😂

[rotund lagoon]

Have you checked the doc in the pins?

You cannot copy and paste willy nilly, you need to know what you’re using and change things up for your specific teams.

[frank shuttle]

Yeah I had one set up for my dark team I forgot to change it

[rotund lagoon]

Then fix that for sure

Don’t forget even Ash cannot get past Special Damage Reduction 8

[frank shuttle]

But he's strong

[rotund lagoon]

As the biggest Ash fan, yes I agree. But note you do not need him for everything. Our CS parameters favor on typing so much more than before.

Also I did try him on Special Damage Reduction 8. Could not do it.

You’d be surprised how much I don’t use him.

[north crown]

Can’t think of a good team for Sidney even though I already beat that version of him multiple times

I just don’t want to fish for good rng cuz of paralysis

[rotund lagoon]

You could be like me and just find a way to counter it instead

[north crown]

I’m currently trying to find an optimal way to do so

E.g Cred with group therapy

But then I saw “Close Combat”

[rotund lagoon]

It was that moment that he knew…..he fucked up.

[north crown]

1/5 HJasmine EX, 2/5 PSerena, TLMorty is my plan for Sidney

[rotund lagoon]

You gridded her for Lithe, huh?

[north crown]

Does she have lithe at 1/5?

WAITAMINUTE SHE DOES…?!?!

Oh shoot

[rotund lagoon]

AOVXKSBXJSVSKJDKWHCJOSVFKSDOEJFKKSVDKJSJDODGEOFEVD

[north crown]

I was just gonna rely on full heal

[rotund lagoon]

[north crown]

Ok that’s so much better

[rotund lagoon]

[north crown]

Sidney: 1/5 HJasmine EX, 2/5 PSerena, 1/5 SSBrendan

• double support cuz y not
  Phoebe: frogs and birb
• y e s
  Glacia: 1/5 Nita, Bea EX, 1/5 CHop
• Galar master passive, zone boosted full bea nuke
  Drake: 2/5 Sonia, Olivia EX, Bertha EX
• idk why 2/5 Sonia+Olivia duo works this well

Champ: 3/5 Ingo EX, 3/5 SSGio EX, 5/5 Cynthia EX

• broken

[rotund lagoon]

Nothing wrong with double Supports in my book

[grizzled cipher]

Man, not a fan of this champion stadium this week, its all types I literally have nothing for but its probably for the best since it gives me the push I needed to likely quit the game anyways.

[toxic cobalt]

You should spend time in ways that make you happy, as always if beating CSMM makes you happy there are ways to do it

[fluid vessel]

first contribution to the solo chart

[grizzled cipher]

I'm not happy if I don't do it but I also am not happy if I don't 2500, but I don't also want to spend my entire day doing it when I'm jugging 3 other mobile games atm

[toxic cobalt]

One too few supports imo

[barren trail]

Any recommendations for f2p friendly teams?

[hushed sorrel]

https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1011675077764456519

https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1097597679015567420

[old orchid]

You can also look for f2p clears on youtube

You dont need to restrict yourself with f2p units, instead post your roster here and people will help you

[grizzled cipher]

yeah ,spending 2 hours on r1 with no progress tells me its time to let it go, eats too much of Arknights, FGO and Another Eden time.

[hushed sorrel]

What did you use?

[fluid vessel]

Second contribution

[keen jasper]

JL Masters and Cyi Wang intensifies

[versed meteor]

Sc zinnia beats glacia fire weak solo

Lyra solo on steven is

[long shard]

@mellow linden thank you for your advice, I managed to do it

although it all came down to a lucky flinch in the end

[mellow linden]

Congrats!

[long shard]

I had no idea feraligator could hit so hard

definitely opened my eyes to a new comp

[faint owl]

yeah, Kris' buff last year was insane
she went from someone I never even considered using to my primary physical water striker

[versed meteor]

Ok bede makes good units broken units

[fluid vessel]

Third contribution

[topaz light]

Not a massive feat but managed to do my first 10k today, only way is up from here :)

[quaint solar]

Not 12.5K
Are you super new or something 🤔

[rigid flint]

Honestly 10k is still impressive

Even moreso if they’re new

[mellow linden]

Regardless of whether they're new or not 10k is still a plenty valid accomplishment. The reward difference between 10k and 12.5k is minimal anyways

[rotund lagoon]

[main crow]

Especially on a harder region CS rotation, this is a great feat

[manic kiln]

player rank 48 is fairly new so it's great to reach 10k, remember back then (even now) some 130+ players still have to ask for team every single week

[paper summit]

we don't talk about those

[main crow]

Or having broken units but don't know how to utilize them optimally

[topaz light]

Yeah pretty new! Mainly it was I just haven't gotten round to trying any 2k/2.5k runs, I did manage a 2.5k in that too which was nice! Just couldn't do the rest on 2.5k

This week was tough for me, only had good answers for Glacia/kinda Steven and even then was a lil rough

[toxic cobalt]

Steven is unusually difficult this week

[peak rune]

Did you do any poison stall or nah?

[topaz light]

I did, just the one

[dark osprey]

they unjustly gave the round paramater as enhanced physical attacks while giving steven higher than usual attack and that Hamer Arm as well

[peak rune]

I think you could retry for 12k5

[toxic cobalt]

Yep, post-sync destroyed by hammer arm, pre-sync destroyed by the weakness type

[dark osprey]

don't know how effective poison stall would also be

maybe burn stall or just silver with burn

[toxic cobalt]

Good luck stalling through the hammer arms

[dark osprey]

yeah exactly

[dusty yarrow]

I never heard of Burn Stall before...

[topaz light]

I tried a couple on 2.5k so maybe need to shuffle what I'm using a little. I'll give it a go for sure:)

[dark osprey]

hehe. doesn't work on most stages. just some which are probably less resistance to burn. some fire weak stages did have that

usually need the extra damage from trap as well I guess

[dusty yarrow]

probably in Grim Fire Weak since (iirc... he has Lessen Burn 4...)

lemme check

[dark osprey]

ah yeah. true

[hushed sorrel]

Nice man I'm level 50 and have similar roster. Did you roll ss morty as your first banner?

Mine was Ss morty then adaman.

[topaz light]

I did! I've been really lucky ngl, I've only had to pity 1 pair which was Irida, the rest i've got through dailies pretty much

[hushed sorrel]

Dang daily djglo is op

Prob my favorite unit ATM

[junior crown]

Was not hard, this week no one was a big issue to stall, and great parameters with R2/R4 for it

[topaz light]

Oops I forgot about that one - I did put some gems into it cause I wanted Lysandre, I got 2/5 Gloria by the time I got him so candied her to 3/5 now she slaps

[hushed sorrel]

Solid

[toxic cobalt]

You had to use an EX Morty!

That's even more defensive stats

[manic kiln]

I was right again, johto next month
september will be wild tho, anything could happen. kalos if they keep the cycle or they might drop galar/paldea

[toxic cobalt]

Johto is good news

[paper summit]

August is easy mode? interesting

[junior crown]

But I think I used only one potion, so 4* should be enough for it

and he ended full HP with one potion*

[toxic cobalt]

Round 2 param?

[junior crown]

yes

[toxic cobalt]

Good to know that worked!

BP Morty is too good for this earth

[main crow]

Johto stadium next

free 12.5k all around

[swift swan]

rip no kalos

[north crown]

Drasna beats up Drasna

[main crow]

the only person who is strong enough to beat me is myself

[grand trout]

Man

I hoped it was kalos

[halcyon sail]

Where is the new CS, I need to see the weaknesses

[dark osprey]

will come out slowly as the datamine progresses

[dusty yarrow]

Wish It was Kalos...

Well I guess taking a break from Stronger CS Region would be nice

[dark osprey]

we do need to try them sprinters and fielders on the weaker CSs i guess

[dusty yarrow]

Any news on whether some already existing units be converted to Sprinters/Fielders?

People only have 1 Sprinter & Fielder to try out on CS (One on Will-Ghost & Lance-Electric)

[dark osprey]

yeah. no news yet i guess. SS Silver does seem to have been something that was intended to be a Sprinter but was lucky enough to get the 1.5EX as well

[dusty yarrow]

Imagine Cynthia Renegade converts from Tech to Field

[halcyon sail]

Are the weaknesses known for anni week

[manic kiln]

interesting choices tbh

[sinful garden]

full image in pins

[halcyon sail]

What

[sinful garden]

the full image, with all the weeks for the upcoming johto cs, is in the pinned messages

[halcyon sail]

I understand that

Thanks

[sinful garden]

np

[halcyon sail]

I'm confused by the types

[tribal agate]

thanks for the update Lost

[halcyon sail]

White Kyurem I guess, but that is a reach

[manic kiln]

don't need any more water and grass please dena

[halcyon sail]

I definitely expected electric/fighting for Miraidon and Koraidon

But not happening it seems

Maybe I am just paranoid, but it seems like they went out of the way to include poison in the anni week, by having dark back to back(on Will)

[lilac thicket]

misty & g-max kingler

[plush tangle]

Dw, we getting Arceus and he's just on type on everything

A bug master fair would be fun, but they already used every bug type in existence

Unless they pull an Heracross MF out of nowhere

[toxic cobalt]

Gmax butterfree

[plush tangle]

Lol

SS Bugsy

He's not fucking around anymore

[main crow]

We still have shiny Genesect

We'll get our fabled Alder master fair

[swift swan]

Forever remains fabled

[grand trout]

If I'm aiming to presync, i should consider cred over sonia right?

[swift swan]

Well both are fine

Sonia just makes it harder to quadqueue

It will depend on your damage dealer. Red doesn't buff attack as much as Sonia

[plush tangle]

there's no such thing as cred

[dark osprey]

Mandela effect

[plush tangle]

only thing close to cred in the game is cresselia dawn

[swift swan]

can you stop rerunning red

[tired sleet]

That’d probably be against gacha laws since it could be seen as a nerf

[full mesa]

Back to Johto. Ok.

[plush tangle]

as long as the units don't have an EX, it's not a nerf

since the role only matters for EX, as long as you don't change the rest of the kit

[tired sleet]

Yea that’s why

[rose ermine]

Im going overboard for the last week of hoenn

[mellow linden]

False, you are not going overkill on Psychic weak Wallace as you have no Psychic Terrain

[junior crown]

150 EX Cyndaquil, I think you love Cyndaquil...

And why not 3 fire gear in that fire team and fairy gear in the flying team?

[rose ermine]

I don't have fairy gear

Only the equipped fire gear is levelled up

[rotund lagoon]

Bianca instead of SS Dawn or Calem then you’d be overkill

[rose ermine]

Ok uh normal kill steven

Bianca is not gonna tank at all

Or buff calem

Or help gauge

[white gale]

Bianca can tank enough for SS Steven to destroy on Psychic Terrain

Also just FYI, Dragon-weak stage is powered up in rain, so SS Kris may not be the best choice there

[versed meteor]

Alright trying to do a run of 2dps what are my options here, already tried diantha lodge lillie with sycamore not working

[formal vigil]

Have you tried using ss mina instead of sycamore

[paper summit]

gauge? seriously? when Steven is gonna likely kill on 1st sync gauge doesn't matter, kick Calem out of that team, he's deadweight, use Terrain

[versed meteor]

No but i doubt she is a better fit than sycamore

[paper summit]

also, Bianca has Pep Rally on Psychic Terrain, and Stored Power is only 2 bars, you'll be fine if you happen to need to attack after sync

[formal vigil]

She does have fairy zone

Also she doesn't need sync to max spak

Which sycamore does Which conflicts with diantha

[versed meteor]

Yeh but sycamore tanks better and sometimes absol ko him before sync

So mina wouldn't fair better to those attacks

[formal vigil]

She does have b protect to stop damage once and heal her also she is more geared to tank physical moves Sidney uses

[versed meteor]

I know it sounds like am just complaining now but we also have gauge issues to factor

Never have i seen so many units needing to sync first

[formal vigil]

If you have Lucian you could use him over Lodge lilie for speed and spdef debuffs

[junior crown]

Remember that Sindey is mostly physical and sycamore raise SP def only on sync, while SS Mina raise def/sp def while you change terrain/weather, so if you use rain dance on first turn you have +2 def x +0 def from Sycamore

[versed meteor]

Your right but that won't count as double dps

[formal vigil]

Lodge lilie doesn't have good dps to begin with

[junior crown]

she is a tech nucker

[versed meteor]

Come on it aint that bad

[versed meteor]

Want to try this funny run first

[junior crown]

not the best nuker, but she has innate scale with attack and trap on sync and she is even EX

[versed meteor]

Nope 1/5 Diantha probably doesn't cut it here

[rotund lagoon]

That’s….not a lot of damage. You don’t have Special Damage Reduction 8 on, do you?

Or did you sync with Diantha both times?

[zealous karma]

Diantha in fairy zone with SpDef debuffs should be doing a lot more

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah I’m confused

[nocturne pawn]

she definitely does

[rotund lagoon]

Mine is only 2/5, and she still kicks ass under zone

[nocturne pawn]

mine is 3/5 but i dont even think i have devastation

wait no i do

its just that i never use her with spatk debuffers

oar 1 is too expensive for how i grid her

[versed meteor]

Nope that is off, but dealing 3k on moonblast doesn't amount for much when if the opponents use a move they heal 3.5k, it is post sync param tho

[nocturne pawn]

you probably took too much defense

she shouldnt be doing 3.5k mega’d and in zone

mine was doing 10k while in zone and mega’d with pre sync

so it’s definitely a parameter issue

[zealous karma]

How much strength are you grabbing ?

[nocturne pawn]

too much

i only take strength 7 or 9 usually

[zealous karma]

I run strength 12 and I did this much against the sides with 1/5 diantha

[versed meteor]

Standard post sync param with +1 defence and special

[zealous karma]

And special what?

[nocturne pawn]

did you max her crit then?

[versed meteor]

Special defence, that +50 param

[nocturne pawn]

the math aint mathing

how did you

do only 3.5k

[versed meteor]

Well it might have been more but it def was not up to 6k

[nocturne pawn]

it just sounds like too much hp then

like she can def pre sync with that team just try it

[zealous karma]

Can you send an image of your params as this math isn’t making aense

[nocturne pawn]

yeah

[zealous karma]

Cause there’s no way I’m doing like triple your damage without zone

[nocturne pawn]

the math aint mathing

[versed meteor]

Later my battery is low

[nocturne pawn]

bru

[frosty axle]

I've used Diantha 1/5 fine before so not sure how they aren't doing enough

[nocturne pawn]

yeah thats way too much strength

exactly what i thought

if you are going full strength dont take hp or defense up

[zealous karma]

I run strength 12 and E

[versed meteor]

Yeh i know about the defences stuff but standard post sync has +2 hp param

[nocturne pawn]

dont take it then?

actually just change to pre sync

[zealous karma]

Diantha can pre sync

[nocturne pawn]

diantha with lucian and fairy zone is 100% capable of presyncing

[zealous karma]

One more moon blast kills here

I run nearly the same params except I take max offense and strength

[nocturne pawn]

interesting choice to sync with lucian

[zealous karma]

I assumed it would do more than diantha’s

Cause her 1/5 sync is weak

Sync the left first to aim for the side denial

[dim depot]

I was just about to ask for help on Sidney as well. Recommendation is Diantha but I just can't win. She doesn't do nearly enough damage fast enough for 2.5k. On any of my parameter sets.

[nocturne pawn]

you can definitely pre sync with her

but iirc sc jasmine isnt particularly fast with buffing

also who do you sync with first

[dim depot]

Support sync first.

I need sync 3 power after the first sync for this to be viable.

[nocturne pawn]

uh

no

sync with diantha

she is insanely gimped without her mega

and in fact her mega is a stronger damage gain than supp ex

try syncing with her first

[dim depot]

Ok

It's a bit stronger, but doesn't seem like enough still.

[rotund lagoon]

That could be an RNG thing?

Try again.

[dim depot]

I'm 6 attempts in and it's still not much better.

[rotund lagoon]

Can you record your gameplay?

What parameters are you using btw?

[dim depot]

I tried all 3 of my presets: standard with power on hit, standard with some bulk, suicide rush

[rotund lagoon]

The ones in the pins?

[dim depot]

I think I only got the first and last ones from the pins. But they've gotten me by most times.

[rotund lagoon]

I need names of the parameter presets, please

[dim depot]

My last run just finished uploading. This was the closest one so far.
https://streamable.com/yn3ube

[rotund lagoon]

Ok first thing I see. Avoid using Dazzling Gleam because AoE penalty and Moonblast has more BP.

The goal is to take out mid before sync. Moonblast will achieve that more.

[dim depot]

Even if I have to pass up a move? I chose it there because I couldn't pick anything else.

[rotund lagoon]

If you cannot triple queue properly, get someone with Speed instead. Roxanne does Df, Sp Atk and Speed buffs, all good for Diantha

[dim depot]

ok

[dim depot]

I either need a completely different strat or I'm just lowering the points.

[tame gust]

oh, wait, a question about Lucian's passives: Does Stupefy also proc with Growl? Thinking about pairing him up with Diantha. Both at 1/5, to go against Sidney. Roxanne is the possible tank, though I worry about how frail she is. Roxanne is not EX'd.

[plush tangle]

yes it does

that's the whole point of having stupefy and not mind games lol

[dim depot]

Literally the same team I'm running now. Diantha basically does no damage until sync 2 if she goes first or sync 3 if support EX goes first.

[tame gust]

ah, thanks. I should've figured given how his kit was phrased. I saw he was a popular character and recently got him so wasn't sure how he acted. Didn't use my brain and read lmao

shame I don't have him at 3/5 for that MGR that makes me plus on gauge.. alas, rng hurts

Here’s where I stand on team ideas for this week. For Steven I’m just gonna blast him down with Carnie or something

[tired sleet]

Note that dark weak phoebe has sentry entry x 2 (doubled physical defence)
What move level is your SC Zinnia?

[tame gust]

3/5. And oh, didn’t know Ghost gal had sentry. Another case of dummy not reading syndrome

[tired sleet]

Ah in that case it’ll definitely be fine, especially considering you have redlax

[tame gust]

and thankfully redlax doesn't need more than 1/5 to really contribute. Aaron's at 5/5 and Zinni is EX'd, then again guess you could tell from the pic.

[tired sleet]

The only one I’m slightly worried about is fairy weak, since 1/5 Diantha (assuming) is kinda mediocre. Should still be fine with Lucian

[tame gust]

I do have full investment in OG Mina and I have full investment+EX Lodge Lillie if those would be better options.

[tired sleet]

I was gonna suggest Lodge Lillie + Diantha + Roxanne, but the gauge’d probably be bad
If Lodge Lillie is EXed, she could work as a solo dmg dealer

[tame gust]

yeah I'd be iffy on gauge with how much Diantha swallows it up for her damage.

[dim depot]

Sycamore was the answer. A far better support since he can clear that pesky paralysis since you won't be pre-syncing.

[tame gust]

Hmm, I do have SS Brendan. I could toss him at the Sidney comp with Lodge Lillie so they don't fight over sync perhaps?

[tired sleet]

That would be one option, but you’d pretty much have no damage until 2nd sync (assuming you sync with brendan)

If you want, i could record a clear example with lodge lillie (mine is also exed)

[tame gust]

Sure, if you've got the time and would be willing.

[tired sleet]

Quick question, what move level is your ss brendan?

[tame gust]

3/5 and EX'd

[nocturne pawn]

in diantha comps you should always sync with her first tbh

her personal damage will skyrocket with fairy power 5

[tame gust]

pfft, SEUP is very funny when you use it on SC Zinni. Phoebi murdered. Eat that Sentry stage lel

[tired sleet]

Sorry for the delay but here! It was closer than expected, but it was also the first try
I’d definitely replace Drake for someone good if you have them
I’ll record params in a minute

[tame gust]

oh your SS Brendan might have a different LS than mine. What's yours have, Winston?

[tired sleet]

Head Start 1 but it literally did nothing here, since i didn’t have an accel partner

[tame gust]

ah just looked like that first sync appeared really quick. then again I could just be not used to watching sped up gameplay

[tired sleet]

Here are the params
Sorry if hyper aggro isn’t your thing

[tired sleet]

It appeared at the same rate thanks to triple queueing
Sync accel doesn’t really matter unless you have -3

[tame gust]

rounds don't seem to matter much this week.

Probably gonna do Drake r2, Sidney r3 and Glacia r4 since I already blasted Phoebe

Ohhh.. Drake goes to the effort of lowering speed. So that kinda makes it annoying for Olivia to build up for Inertia. lol

[dim depot]

lol why does his Slo-Mo passive still activate even if the attack misses? Is that how it's supposed to work?

[nocturne pawn]

yes

[cinder summit]

Slo-mo 9

Lowers the Speed of all opposing sync pairs by one stat rank when the user's move targeting an opponent is successful.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Darach & Staraptor

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[tired sleet]

Wait it says when successful…

[dim depot]

Unless it's like a go viral thing? Like, it has to miss on all targets? Because this was Earthquake.

[tame gust]

has to miss all enemies to not proc it looks like

[mellow linden]

Yeah, if it hits even one it should activate the passive

[tame gust]

guess I'm using Roark since Olivia doesn't seem to wanna cooperate/I'm bad with Olivia/Unga Bunga me Headsmash

[mellow linden]

That’s just how Drake be

[tame gust]

What's annoying is the fact that you can't use a party member with impervious to soak up the stat drop. Boss passives are some dumb cracked nonsense sometimes.

[mellow linden]

Drake is just, as they say, “built different”

[nocturne pawn]

elec weak siebold intentionally stifling elesa

[mellow linden]

Not if you use Sonia with her

[nocturne pawn]

but u only get +4

[mellow linden]

Sonia has Team Swift Reaction and Spark Team Fast-Track, Elesa has innate Fast-Track and +2 Speed per Trainer Move

It works out

Though only if you can fully grid both

[umbral crow]

Anyone wanna help me make team that fills medal as much as possible?
Currently have only beaten Drake with Roark, Surge, and Acerola.

[dim depot]

Some of these are covered with this week's types. Use Gladion for a type you don't have a good unit for, but he's still Normal. The others could be Supports. Like BP Crobat for Poison. Or Drake for Dragon.

[mellow linden]

Could do teams built around Rose, Oleana, SS Lysandre, and Korrina (Korrina specifically against Glacia) and fill out the type medal via teammates

[umbral crow]

Is oleana stronger offtype than Mina?

[dim depot]

Sleep powder user? There's your grass. Mina for Attack debuffer on a stage lol.

[mellow linden]

Possibly, could always just run both on the same team as well

This is just Hard Mode, so teambuilding is more relaxed

[umbral crow]

well it makes me fill medal so its pretty limited ig

lemme try

what round should i avoid or do?

[mellow linden]

No particular order, just a “maybe avoid” on Sidney for Round 2, and that’s not a set rule

[umbral crow]

ouch my ground is real limited

hapu and clay pnly

[nocturne pawn]

if you dont understand why he has go viral thunder wave before sync and r2 increases the chance of full paralysis

but

you can use sycamore

[mellow linden]

That’s partially why I recommended Rose as an option, he can act as the damage-dealer against Steven and let you slap a random Ground pair on a team as pure filler

[nocturne pawn]

to get around it

since he only uses it once

[umbral crow]

shall i do r2 for oleana then?

[north crown]

clay tank w/ endure on his tm

[umbral crow]

he got oneshotted by sync when im trying phoebe

and gauge issue too

[nocturne pawn]

r2 does increase poison damage so she can work

[north crown]

waitaminute sync..? shouldn't you be able to presync with rose or something broken?

[umbral crow]

what teammates do oleana needs based on my medals

[umbral crow]

nah, im saving rose for steven

its offtype lysandre

hawh all my limiteds are gauge heavy unit except glojo

[north crown]

I mean... if this is your first weak of hoenn cs, then perhaps it's fine if you miss a type or two out of 15

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah you cannot do all 18 in one week

[umbral crow]

its my second week, first was rushed

i have 7 medal already

2 in progress

[north crown]

uhh then use op support, rose, clay

you used enough types to have a leeway there

[old orchid]

@manic kiln does Will repeat Dark weak stage in week 2 and week 3? or one of them is Ghost weak?

[nocturne pawn]

he does

its pinned already

[old orchid]

there is no Ghost weak stage but Dark weak gets repeat, thats very strange

thats why i asked

Event Victor will be released in around week 2 - 3 too, so its more strange

[umbral crow]

So close!

Uhh ignore the dum team

[old orchid]

are you doing hard mode?

[umbral crow]

yep

this is r3

trying acc debuff strat

but gauge was too heavy

[old orchid]

do you have Leaf?

[umbral crow]

no

[old orchid]

gauge is the problem, and accuracy debuffing is not a valid strat

have you used any Flying type?

[umbral crow]

yeah, ive used falkner in previous week

[old orchid]

how many types you have left?

oh btw post your roster here as well

[umbral crow]

Ive used roark, surge, acerola, sycamore, oleana, and viola

Type left are ground, grass, fight, dragon, and psychic

Oh normal too

My plan was
Korrina-Glacia
Lysandre-Phoebe
Champ-Rose

You are still there Gakon?

+i still have hop ex

[tired sleet]

I think you could throw hapu into the rose team instead of throwing her into an offtype stage
Rose needs gauge support either way

[umbral crow]

thats the problem, i dont have many gauge support who complete medal

i can just wait for next week tbh but if i can do it now why not

candidate are just rosa and drake who fill gauge, not speed

[toxic cobalt]

So the situation is:
Types left: ground, grass, fight, dragon, psychic, normal
Weaknesses left: fighting, dark, ground

Correct?

[umbral crow]

yeah

is dark pulse Gloria can be used there?

ive tried it before and it was not that good

[toxic cobalt]

Well, don't think you have anything better

Do you have BP Erika?

[umbral crow]

i didnt, and im not anywhere near bp ticket

its 800 pts away

[toxic cobalt]

Alright, why not try off-typing Phoebe With Cyrus? Is Cyrus gridded?

[umbral crow]

nope

maybe i will grid him in next week

i have 10k orbs saved

[toxic cobalt]

It's a realy shame you don't have Sabrina

Is Giovanni gridded?

[umbral crow]

wait i forgor

nope

[toxic cobalt]

Okay, let's stick to LySSandre then

He's pretty self-buffing, so we can try and fit two types around him

[umbral crow]

yeah, just need to fill -2 sp atk

[toxic cobalt]

I suggest Ramos for grass and Cheryl for normal

[umbral crow]

sleep strat ?

[toxic cobalt]

More or less

[umbral crow]

will it have a gauge problem tho

[toxic cobalt]

It will but round 3 is boosted gauge

Also you can grid Pep rally on Cheryl

Can be done in four tiles

[fluid vessel]

carrying Ash

[toxic cobalt]

For fighting Bruno may be an easier buff than Korrina, as he has dire hit +

You can run him with Liza and Drake

Bruno may need gridding

(This assumes you haven't already gridded Korrina)

[umbral crow]

oh no ramos sleep and lysandre burn cant be stacked

[toxic cobalt]

Do you have Lodge Blue?

[umbral crow]

maybe next reset

its 5 lvl away

[toxic cobalt]

You could try Mallow, to debuff them

Lots of trop kicks and maybe a teeter dance too

[umbral crow]

lets see

yes took 2 tries

i did it

@toxic cobalt sorry for ping, just wanna let u know

now grid bruno on what?

[toxic cobalt]

Well, try Bruno without a grid. The idea is that he buffs his dire hit +, and Liza buffs spdef and then can top off ihs attack

Drake there to help with tanking

[umbral crow]

ah

lemme try

gauge is slow and drake dies on first sync

[toxic cobalt]

How much damage is done to mid before first sync?

[umbral crow]

20% health left

[toxic cobalt]

Ooh that's close!

Try gridding a nuke tile

Can grid critical strike 2 if you feel like spending now to avoid resetting

[umbral crow]

oh bruh my bruno was 2/5

[toxic cobalt]

Don't think Rose will need

ah

Does 2/5 have critical strike 2?

[umbral crow]

its 3/5

2/5 have mgr at best

[toxic cobalt]

What about cross chop smart cookie in the top right?

[umbral crow]

same its 3/5

[toxic cobalt]

Lol just grid some cross chop power tiles

[umbral crow]

[toxic cobalt]

Cross chop mgr might be okay too since you're in the area

[grand trout]

Do we have Johto cs yet

[toxic cobalt]

One and a half weeks

[umbral crow]

Was heckin painful but here we go

Complete!
Thanks @toxic cobalt

[grand trout]

Wow hapu

[umbral crow]

its for medal

[grand trout]

Ooh okay

[umbral crow]

sheet pinged the wrong person

[toxic cobalt]

You can do master mode now if you want, no need to squeeze in weird types

[manic kiln]

yeah I asked absol twice so it's probably true

[old orchid]

thanks for the confirmation

[manic kiln]

datamine is not 100% right tho so we'll see

[latent eagle]

I cannot beat steven and my brain is mush from being sick to think about teams aaaaAAAaAaaaaAAAaaaaaAAAAAaaaaa

[nocturne pawn]

whats your ground types then

[latent eagle]

Not great

[grand trout]

Naomi not pulling her weight?

[latent eagle]

Idk how to use her, bc for ground types I have so little i off type often

[nocturne pawn]

bertha and naomi should work

if you have rose im guessing you dont though him and courtney can clear

[latent eagle]

Yeah nah, don’t got rose

[old orchid]

Basically any spatk support + Bertha can help Naomi

The problem is Steven's hard hitting

[nocturne pawn]

yeah my issue is that most spatk supports have the bulk of a tissue

and his round parameter is increased physical damage

[latent eagle]

Persian/gio work with Bertha and Naomi?

[nocturne pawn]

that should be fine

[latent eagle]

Hm, I don’t think that’s gonna work, gio dies too quickly

Would it be possible to poison stall Steven?

[nocturne pawn]

it’ll be harder cuz of hammer arm + round parameter

[latent eagle]

Hmmmm I might just give up on this week, gio is just dying and I really don’t have brain power this week to figure stuff out to win being sick sucksssssss

[junior crown]

It is possible, yes

[dark osprey]

you may have one of the Galar pairs with ground coverage like Leon, Victor or Rose that may be helpful

else can try sleep cheese as well

i guess bertha, Naomi & sleepmon

[latent eagle]

I have leon but he doesn't do much damage

[manic kiln]

3/5 bertha should be enough to nuke. Add courtney for utility and another atk support.
Ground don’t have many options but you gotta work with what you have. If I can clear with this you can too with better support

1/5 leon wont do much

[dark osprey]

Earthquake I understand may not do much and would need to combine with another striker

Super preparation max move is kinda nice

3/5 Courtney too is nice I guess

Guess Bertha is better though yeah

[manic kiln]

Their Courtney was 1/5 so probably just use for zone

Steven is tanky with def buffs so need to drop his def if you can. Courtney also has defense crush

[nocturne pawn]

he just buffs them again

you’d need to debuff with leer instead of defense crush

[manic kiln]

I used double dc on courtney, not that much better but I don’t have better options for my mono team. You can use something better sure

[dark osprey]

Oh mb. Didn't know they had Courtney as well. If 3/5 Bertha then seems right. But can also use Leon with Cortney maybe

[plush tangle]

Meanwhile Aurochs

[dark osprey]

Steven unable to move

[plush tangle]

Oh he was able to move

https://youtu.be/-SbJ4b5mp-c?t=1247

[manic kiln]

clay nuke is decent I nuke with courtney in my run but clay also works, I used both for the speed drop multiplier

[latent eagle]

All my units in case off tying is better bc I’m so brain dead atm I can’t thiiiiiink 👌 close to poison stalling

[old orchid]

I see Ash 3/5

CBede, Volkner and Ash

Wait you have SST Red too

Use him instead of Volkner

[manic kiln]

3/5 ash and srtred i don't even have them at 3/5 1/5 to save candy

[latent eagle]

BRUH

[plush tangle]

how did you fail that

[latent eagle]

Earthquake

And then steven's stupid sure crit after sync

[old orchid]

Ash can oneshot the mid after Bede sync

[latent eagle]

He in fact cannot, least not mine

[sick inlet]

Bthunderbolt?

[swift swan]

that team shouldn't let steven sync. what parameters are you running

[trail smelt]

… you know

It just occurred to me that Field and Sprint isn’t one of the types that gets smashed by the parameters

[manic kiln]

free 200 points for not using support tech and strike

[plush tangle]

dw they'll get new parameters just for them lol

[trail smelt]

More points choices for us

[plush tangle]

now you have to get 3k

[swift swan]

if it means more rewards then lfg

[toxic cobalt]

Clay is one of my greatest achievements

[eternal lodge]

Next week's CSMM is getting nuked

[lean cosmos]

I’m trying to build some teams for the C.S and I just want some thoughts on if these are good enough to work,

[mellow linden]

I’d replace Cynthia or Rose with a gauge Support, ideally of a type you’re not using elsewhere for more type medal progress

Maybe replace Wallace as well so Wally can get the buffs he needs faster

[lean cosmos]

These are the fella I got,

[mellow linden]

Skyla + Swanna will work on the team for going up against Steven, and tbh I’d say maybe replace Wallace and Wally with Dojo Gloria and Maylene to keep the same type medal progress you’d have gotten

[lean cosmos]

Alright, then I assume the teams for drake / phoebe / Sidney looks alright then?

Nothing needs changing there?

[mellow linden]

They’ll work for Hard Mode

They’ll also net you 10 types so that you can get the rest next week

[lean cosmos]

Ight

Hope this works

Also does it matter that most of them don’t have any sync chart investments?

[mellow linden]

Should be fine for Hard Mode

[lean cosmos]

Let’s go

[mellow linden]

Congrats!

[lean cosmos]

Thx, the hardest was definitely glacia

steven was suprisingly easy compared to the E4

[toxic cobalt]

The power of Rose

[nocturne pawn]

i had to use him with courtney for 2.5k and gauge was literally buried 6 feet under jesus

[toxic cobalt]

The power of Skyla

[nocturne pawn]

i think i actually used sonia

on demand mga was handy

[lean cosmos]

I wont lie, I also ended up cheesing drake with evasion

[nocturne pawn]

i used ss diantha against drake

cuz ive been itching to try her out

[lean cosmos]

Yea, I never got to use ss misty yet aswell

She seems super good but really luck dependent

[nocturne pawn]

shes niche

evasion also never works when you want it to so like lol

[lean cosmos]

yea, tho it did save me like 4 times in a row for the W on this fight so i dunno

[zealous karma]

Well SSMisty has a very good nuke it is a pain to actually setting it up some of the best partners to fully set up her nuke would be like ccalem due to providing rain spatk and evasion for her nuke but that requires him to get 3 tm MPRS on a 1 use, her other good partner is SSKris who gives Spatk and rain but no evasion but shes an okay unit

[nocturne pawn]

her nuke is so fucking dumb lol

its like

absolutely miserable

only sets up blind spot

[lean cosmos]

mhm, I just used her since I needed someone who could cycle sync moves fast and charge bar

[nocturne pawn]

which is rng from shifty striker

and like ig she also helps sync power flux with charging infliction 4

[lean cosmos]

and luckly she could do both

[nocturne pawn]

but her offensive set up is literally nil

unless you grid her for that one node that buffs spatk at like 30% or something dumb

[lean cosmos]

i dont think ill be gridding her, Im saving up for aniversary or drag leon

[nocturne pawn]

you dont need to tbf

[north crown]

currently attempting to beat hoenn cs with a relatively new/newbie account

.. and I just realized that I wasted r1 param

[toxic cobalt]

🦇 🕷️

[umbral crow]

I'm curious about the results

[dark osprey]

that spider so camouflaged. didn't even notice it there

[old orchid]

thats a bat tho

[gritty sentinel]

whats a good team for wally and gardevoir

[rotund lagoon]

What’s your Fairy roster like?

SS Wally is more of a Fairy enabler, and a Mega Evolution Support is helpful too

If you have Diantha tho, the Support does not need to be Mega Evo

If you want to know specifics, my ideal Fairy team is a Sp Atk/Crit Support (Lodge Dawn works), SS Wally and Diantha.

[keen jasper]

Mainly SS with Brendan

Not sure who's the 3rd

Maybe NY Lisia for the theme skill

[gritty sentinel]

i only have this

thought wally would be dps or smth

[keen jasper]

Show us your supports

[keen jasper]

Well, it's definitely Sabrina + SS Wally

[old orchid]

You shouldnt run SS Mina SS Wally and Sabrina, that team has no dps

Hilbert OG Mina and SS Wally

[wet gate]

any recommendation for the order for this week

[old orchid]

Check the second pin

[wet gate]

what does additional effects mean

is it like stat debuffs

or like ststus effectrs

[old orchid]

The chance of secondary effect of attack moves happening is doubled

[wet gate]

wdym secondary effect

[old orchid]

For example, Astonish's base flinch chance is 30%, which gets doubled to 60%

[wet gate]

ok

what does tough cookie do

[cinder summit]

Tough Cookie

The more the user's Defense is raised, the more it powers up the user's moves.

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[wet gate]

got it

[old orchid]

Next time use /passive in #bot-zone or read the desc ingame

[wet gate]

ok

[versed meteor]

I use spread moves with +2 crit increase, dont get a crit, drake uses spread moves with no crit increase gets a crit twice, can dena look into drake stages dude is cheating

[proud axle]

...Spread moves?

Oh, you're sad about failing three 80% chances when Drake succeeded two out of three really low chances

Lady Luck is a sarcastic a-hole sometimes, please understand

[nocturne pawn]

thats why you max crit

[north crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328348940259033088/1134703809126477884/IMG_2056.PNG
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/328348940259033088/1134703861911797872/IMG_2057.PNG

For context: I stole borrowed a phone with a relatively new/newbie account, and because of that, I needed to focus on the type medal with this limited roster. At most, I was working with half-2/3 grids. All limited pairs are at 1/5.

[plush tangle]

newbie account with lear

[zealous karma]

A newbie account you mean aurochs?

[north crown]

yeah... about that... this is exactly why I specified new/newbie.
This account is pretty old, but not much progress has been made on it.

[hushed sorrel]

Tried to off type Wallace with Ss red, ss morty and Lyra. But not enough damage mid esepically when Wallace has defense buff, any ideas on getting more damage or not going to work unless I can strip the defense buff faster?

[astral sage]

EX support?

[nocturne pawn]

it sounds like hes not getting maxed attack

probably would replace lyra for hilbert

[hushed sorrel]

Lyra gives max attack

With MPR

Before 1st sync

And Lyra offers 50% chance of -1 sp def

I used to run Hilbert in that comp but Lyra fits a lot better and Hilbert can go sit in a physical attack team

[nocturne pawn]

doesnt matter if it procs he buffs defense when he gets hit

[hushed sorrel]

Yea I understand that I’m just saying Lyra as a comp

[zealous karma]

Defensive buffs are ignored by crits

[hushed sorrel]

But I haven’t found anyone that can have more than -1 sp def besides irida

Ok so perhaps that comp just don’t have enough damage?

[zealous karma]

Ssbrendan and PDawn are like the only ones who debuff SpDef by 2 tanks

Is it possible for you to replace Lyra with Gordie

[nocturne pawn]

and ss brendan does damage so its only -1

against ground weak steven

[hushed sorrel]

Let me have a look at Geordie..

[nocturne pawn]

doesnt steven this week want you to use courtney

[hushed sorrel]

What is the thought process behind gordie

[zealous karma]

-2 rebuff is a 50% damage increase

[hushed sorrel]

Yea already did once with Rose and Courtney haha…

[nocturne pawn]

and he sets sun with max

[zealous karma]

On top of Sun which is a 100% damage increase

[nocturne pawn]

so its like

2.25x i think?

cuz its a 50% boost and 50% more damage taken

[hushed sorrel]

I’m not seeing the Synergy with Gordie

Where is the Debuff?

[nocturne pawn]

he lowers rebuff with tar shot

which is very good as you already have sun

[hushed sorrel]

O actually I never found out what that type rebuff meant

Mind explaining?

[zealous karma]

.

[hushed sorrel]

So it is equivalent to -1 defense against fire?

[zealous karma]

Idk what you mean

[nocturne pawn]

no

it increases damage dealt by fire moves

by a set amount per rank

[zealous karma]

It’s basically Sun without an actual field effect and is permanent

[nocturne pawn]

-1 is 30% -2 is 50% and -3 is 60%

[zealous karma]

At -2

[hushed sorrel]

I see so that’s why adaman is so broken

It’s an interesting unit, def keen to try, I look forward to the RNG gods favous of giving me Gordie

[nocturne pawn]

well not just that

its like

that and everything else he does

[hushed sorrel]

yea I hear you. free moves.. infinite sun.. insane sync damage..

[junior solstice]

aiming a little low right now. just trying as much as i can from master mode, what should i do?

[rotund lagoon]

Have you done MM before? If not, start at 850 points per match

[junior solstice]

ive always done hard mode

what should i buff my opponents with?

[rotund lagoon]

Check the pins. There is an 850 sheet there.

[junior solstice]

should i try to attempt 2k ground/rock with rose and 2k dark with champion marnie

[rotund lagoon]

You should learn to get the feel of MM first. 850 is a good spot to start with.

[junior solstice]

alright.

[mellow linden]

You can always reset and try higher point values afterwards if you want

[quaint solar]

Who does all of that 🤔

[zealous karma]

Adaman

[rotund lagoon]

They said Adaman right above… ^^;

[nocturne pawn]

reading is hard

[rotund lagoon]

[umbral crow]

I thought what you mean by newbie was 1/2 week acc
Still good clear with Syca regardless, i thought they will have gauge problem

[north crown]

I did have gauge problems

[zealous karma]

No sycamore solo 💔

[north crown]

I ended up having to use Clay's TMs to keep being able to spam glaciate

[north crown]

ping cuz I forgor

[umbral crow]

I always get scolded when I ping someone on this server so it's a habit now lol

[north crown]

gonna tell you in advance that I'm fine with pings

[white gale]

which region is the CS after Hoenn ends?

[toxic cobalt]

Johto

[white gale]

Johto is pretty easy if I remember correectly?

[tired sleet]

It’s one of the easier ones
Aside from a couple of annoying koga stages and some others

[hushed sorrel]

So coming week is jhoto?

[old orchid]

next week is still Hoenn

the week after that is week 1 of Johto

[hushed sorrel]

O o thanks

[paper summit]

friendly reminder to check the pins...

[boreal rose]

Ngl. Sidney is hard on r3

Or im just shit at thw game

Or both

[swift swan]

Sidney's very bulky

R3 shouldn't affect his damage in any way

[boreal rose]

Hm

[plush tangle]

Your parameters must be wrong

[boreal rose]

Yep

[mellow linden]

Yep, that’d do it

Fortunately such an issue is an easy fix

[boreal rose]

Ik

I made it that he has higher stats and more HP tho

Shoudlnt make it much worse tho

Sync did same ammount of damage

[swift swan]

More HP makes things much worse

[boreal rose]

Nah

I would beat it

But sync did less than 2k

[mellow linden]

Probably didn’t crit and/or you have Physical Damage Reduction 8 on by mistake as well

[swift swan]

Don't pick that up. Sidney's HP is already too inflated as it is. Pick strength

[boreal rose]

Nope

[keen jasper]

Only use HP parameters if you want to save your overkilling

[boreal rose]

I have a Special on no.2 and Physical on no 1

[boreal rose]

I want points

[mellow linden]

Can you show your parameters, then? Because this sounds like a parameter issue

[swift swan]

Doesn't hurt to recheck your parameters

And i seriously don't recommend more HP

[boreal rose]

Then what should i choose?

[mellow linden]

There’s some parameter options in the pins

[boreal rose]

Physical damage reduction or supports/tech/strikers take more damage?

[boreal rose]

I have ok parameters i think

Its just. I have nothing good to add

[mellow linden]

Could you please show us the parameters you’re running then?

[boreal rose]

.

Ok. Now its good

[mellow linden]

No Stat Reduction and Standard Damage Reduction 8 are the problems

[boreal rose]

Why?

I sont reduce any stats with my team

[mellow linden]

SS May relies on Defense debuffs for her Sync nuke and Standard Damage Reduction 8 reduces your damage by 80%

[rotund lagoon]

I spy HP params, doesn’t Sidney already have a lot?

[boreal rose]

Oops. I accidentally deleted the wrong thing in the middle bottom pic

[boreal rose]

Still should do more than 2k without the standard damage reduction dont you think?

[mellow linden]

Your screenshots show that you have it turned on

Is it actually on or not?

[boreal rose]

After i changed it

[mellow linden]

And what’s SS May’s grid?

[boreal rose]

I said so here

[mellow linden]

Her Sync hits like a wet noodle without Defense debuffs on the target, then

[boreal rose]

It shoudltn

[mellow linden]

Mega base power penalty with no modifiers

[boreal rose]

I did this kind of team multiple times on CS before my break

Did more than 2k

[mellow linden]

I can only assume you didn’t turn on No Stat Reduction those times

Because SS May’s Sync Move is quite literally garbage if she can’t set up any of her modifiers

[boreal rose]

I doubt it

I doubt i had it off then

[mellow linden]

Without any modifiers the only thing her Sync has over Blaze Kick is 21 base power, at 2/5

If it dealt less damage than Blaze Kick then it didn’t crit

But low damage is to be expected if you’re not setting it up

[boreal rose]

Now she did 7k

Isnt a lot but quite a big difference conpared to less than 2k

[mellow linden]

Crit vs. non-crit, easily

[boreal rose]

Possible

Didnt pay attention

Was focused on quadqueue

[mellow linden]

It’s 100% in-line with a crit Sync vs. a non-crit Sync

[boreal rose]

Failed tho cuz not enoguh bar

[rotund lagoon]

Quadqueuing can be done even with an item or lower bar move

[boreal rose]

This also proves I coulsnt quadqueue using items

[mellow linden]

Low Sweep is right there

[boreal rose]

I was focused on big damage

[steel kelp]

But damage

[boreal rose]

What

Hopefully Dark weak will be as easy as drake and whoever not dark weak

Oh

Glacia

[mellow linden]

Fighting weak Glacia shouldn’t be a problem

[boreal rose]

Ah....special

[boreal rose]

Ik

I did her 1st i think

Maybe 2nd

[mellow linden]

Ah, misinterpreted what you said before, my bad

[boreal rose]

Its ok

I did word it weirdly

[proud axle]

Ye, Phoebe's fight is Neo Marnie Hours

[rotund lagoon]

I thought the same thing tbh

[swift swan]

Phoebe can even be bruteforced with physical units just fine

[mellow linden]

But why bother when Champ Marnie exists

[proud axle]

Sure, sure, but they have Neo Marnie EX

So may as well let her run free and terrorize the countryside

Or at least the stadium

[boreal rose]

True

[proud axle]

Ahahaha yessss

[boreal rose]

Sometimes I love when stages are easy

[proud axle]

One thing that can make it funnier

[boreal rose]

Double Rebuff?

[proud axle]

Choose Half Starting HP so that Marnie's TM sets off Spikemuth Grit

[boreal rose]

Oohhh

[proud axle]

B Moves can use Special Up Next

Ker powwwwww

[boreal rose]

Tbf. I wish i tried that

Now groudn weak

Is 3/5 Cynthia able to so it?

Not solo btw

[swift swan]

3/5 cynthia can, yes

[mellow linden]

Yeah, should be fine

[proud axle]

I think so

[swift swan]

Bring a sand setter and grid for nuke

[proud axle]

Cynthia really does get more hilarious with each dupe she gets

[nocturne pawn]

ground weak steven should be easy with cynthia especially paired with courtney

[steel kelp]

Bertha is easy mode

[swift swan]

I beat the stage easily with Bertha/Courtney/Cynthia

[boreal rose]

Imagine owning her

[nocturne pawn]

not my problem

[steel kelp]

Me who’s never used Courtney with Cynthia

[swift swan]

Just a sand setter then

[sacred mountain]

Me who just runs Maxie

[swift swan]

And an attack+crit support for cynthia for faster setup

[boreal rose]

Hmm

[steel kelp]

A a ron

[steel kelp]

Or literally anyone from gen pool

Where the crit comin

[nocturne pawn]

she dont buff crit though

[proud axle]

That works great

[rotund lagoon]

Hop exists

[nocturne pawn]

oh wait

bertha is crit on tm

forgor

[steel kelp]

Oh yea

She does indeed do that

[cinder summit]

Cynthia & Garchomp

<:CATEGORY_PHYSICAL:967450751980949625> <:TYPE_GROUND:967452395728699474> Stomping Tantrum

Gauge: 2 | Power: 44 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
This attack's power is doubled when the user's previous move failed.

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> X Attack

Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: Self
Effect Tag: -
Raises the user's Attack by 2 stat ranks.

<:CATEGORY_PHYSICAL:967450751980949625> <:TYPE_GROUND:967452395728699474> Earthquake

Gauge: 3 | Power: 100 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: All opponents
Effect Tag: -
No additional effect.

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> This Match Is Too Fun!

Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: Self
Effect Tag: -
Raises the user's Speed and critical-hit rate by 1 stat rank. These stats are raised by 2 stat ranks instead during a sandstorm.

<:CATEGORY_PHYSICAL:967450751980949625> <:TYPE_GROUND:967452395728699474> <:CONDITION_SYNC:967453032939925614> Earthquake of Ancient Lore

Power: 160
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
Become Mega Garchomp until the end of battle.

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[swift swan]

If you have bertha that just leaves faster attack support for cynthia

[nocturne pawn]

ok so she can actually set up

[steel kelp]

Cynthia doesn’t have like inertia or ram speed right

[proud axle]

Only Haymaker and Sandblaster IIRC

[plush tangle]

she goes

[mellow linden]

Can be gridded for Ramming Speed, iirc, but Speed is more for gauge

[plush tangle]

she has raming speed

[proud axle]

Oh right, Ram Speed

I never grid it because it's so diluted by all the sand bonuses

Completely forgot it's even there

[swift swan]

I never take it, my grid's nuke focused

[steel kelp]

Yea cause I only remember haymaker and blaster

[proud axle]

I have 5/5 because Lady Luck is a sarcastic a-hole (I was trying for more Lance and Steven)

[swift swan]

in cynthia's case i moreso value speed for earthquake spam

[sacred mountain]

Is CS still sinnoh?

[steel kelp]

Yes

[mellow linden]

Hoenn

Not Sinnoh

Sinnoh ended a while ago

[proud axle]

Next is Johto apparently

[steel kelp]

Oh right last month

[sacred mountain]

[steel kelp]

they’re both annoying regions might as well be the same

[proud axle]

Two weeks until we're back to ezmode

Well. A week and a day.

[boreal rose]

tbf. Should i spam slash or Earthquake?

[proud axle]

Quake

Unless you specifically grid for Slash, I guess

[boreal rose]

Idk her grid

[proud axle]

Then Quake

[boreal rose]

[proud axle]

She's EX so her sync will crush the sides, allowing Quake to finish them fast

[steel kelp]

Quake always better

[boreal rose]

Shoudl Cynthia habe CS2 or surging sand3?

[proud axle]

Both are good

Weathered Warrior 3 is best if you can get it

[sand karma]

Surging sand doesn't affect sync cs2 is better

[proud axle]

But I wouldn't call it a mistake to keep Surging Sand or CS2

I'd slightly prefer CS2 due to the sync, yeah. She reaaaally wants to sync

[sand karma]

And her sync is much more impressive than her dps which is still really good

[proud axle]

Your Cynthia is 3/5 so you can get some great multipliers for her sync

[boreal rose]

I almost won

I hate Stevens endure

[proud axle]

What's your Cynthia grid?

[boreal rose]

Uhh

[proud axle]

Maybe we can troubleshoot

[boreal rose]

What

[proud axle]

Because I'm a bit surprised she's not winning

[boreal rose]

Cuz endure

Cuz steven died

[proud axle]

Show us anyway just in case

[boreal rose]

But he killed me before he killed himself

[proud axle]

Alright, let's see what we have here

[boreal rose]

Im gonna uhh. Give her CS2

For...no reason

[proud axle]

Haymaker abd Sandblaster, that's good... You can skip Sand Screen, the damage is negligible

[boreal rose]

Should I 4/5 her?

[proud axle]

Could go straight down from center for an extra Surging Sand 2

[boreal rose]

Or maybe even 5/5

Cuz I can

[proud axle]

I like having her at 5/5 but I am not the best at picking whom to candy

I have commitment issues. I haven't used a single 5star candy yet despite knowing I could 3/5 every Master Pair I have with them

[boreal rose]

Same

Om the picking who to candy part

Tbf. I do want to 3/5 Gloria

But at the same time 5/5 Cynthia

These feel useful

[proud axle]

I think this grid can be used at 3/5

Superduper 5 is better than Surging Sand 3 here

Also moooaaar sync BP

Could drop Ramming Speed for Sands of Time if you have gauge issues

[boreal rose]

I can try and somehow offtype

[proud axle]

I think this grid can win

Can Cynthia's sync OHKO the left sidekick?

If it can, then queue Bertha's Sandstorm before Cynthia's sync in the same turn

So that the left guy will have a moment to queue something, then get squashed for a KO Denial

That'll put you on track for your second sync before Steven gets his first... And Endure can't stop a sync.

[boreal rose]

Thanks @proud axle

[proud axle]

Yisssss git 'em

🏆

[versed meteor]

3k run?

[hushed sorrel]

Wallace - any better candidate for support than Sabrina on a Giovanni(non-boosted), Bianca team?

[tired sleet]

What move level is bianca? (If she’s 3/5 she can be the tank)

[zealous karma]

Gio doesn’t need his power only gives mega

[hushed sorrel]

3/5!

[tired sleet]

In that case sabrina would be fine; she’d also make bianca put out a lot of damage

[hushed sorrel]

Sabrina only boost 1 target though

So you are saying to boost Bianca not Giovanni?

[mellow linden]

Bianca can buff her own Sp. Atk., Sabrina can use Trainer Move on Giovanni and then Dire Hit All for Bianca's crit after

[hushed sorrel]

When I get SS Kris that comp would be significantly better right

[mellow linden]

Sorta, but tbh you'd probably wanna use SS Kris on other teams in CS

[blazing lake]

What’s a good teamcomp for my 3/5 Lance when the next dragon-weak rolls around?

[tired sleet]

Judging from your name, I’m assuming you have lucas?

[blazing lake]

Yes but I’m gonna challenge myself to clear zoneless

[tired sleet]

If you want to use his sync nuke, he wants +6 Atk and +2 or 4 SpAtk

Can you show your roster?

[blazing lake]

I’m thinking champion Bede for the main support since he can raise both stats

[tired sleet]

That’d work

[blazing lake]

But I’m unsure who to put in the third slot

Perhaps another dragon attacker like Iris alt or BP zinnia?

[tired sleet]

You could use someone like Liza to increase stat gains faster
Or yeah, another dragon dmg dealer. I probably wouldn’t use Alt Iris unless she’s 3/5 tho

[blazing lake]

She is 3/5

But I think I want to nuke with Lance for aoe haymaker

[tired sleet]

Idt she’s super worth bringing unless she’s nuking

[nocturne pawn]

she isnt

also slow as hell to set up unless you bring a dedicated debuffer

[tired sleet]

Cyrus’s DPS is also solid

[blazing lake]

The new Leon will help with that lol

[tired sleet]

You don’t really need to max her debuffs for her to clear a stage
Just bring an offensive buffer and she can handle the rest

[blazing lake]

I think I might do Lance, champ Bede, and BP zinnia for now. Thank for y’all’s advice

[zealous karma]

What is BP ZInnia for?

[nocturne pawn]

extra damage i guess?

but her dps isnt really that good

[cinder summit]

Zinnia & Salamence

<:GRID_SYNC:967786997982830712> __Sync Tiles:__

(3) New Beginning Dragon Impact: Power +25
(3) New Beginning Dragon Impact: Power +25

<:GRID_MOVE:967786997265629195> __Move Tiles:__

(1) Dragon Rush: Move Gauge Refresh 1 - Has a chance (20%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.

‎

(2) Dragon Claw: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.
(2) Dragon Rush: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.
(2) Real Nice!: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.
(2) Status Shield: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.

‎

(3) Dragon Claw: Harry 2 - Powers up the user's moves against targets that are flinching.
(3) Real Nice!: MP Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.
(3) Status Shield: MP Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.

<:GRID_PASSIVE:967786997215264808> __Passive Tiles:__

(2) Critastrophe 2 - Powers up the user's sync move when it becomes a critical hit.
(2) Double Down 2 - Powers up the user's sync moves that are super effective.
(2) Terrify 1 - Lowers the Attack of all opposing sync pairs by 1 stat rank when the user enters a battle.

‎

(3) Critical Strike 2 - Powers up the user's attacks when they become critical hits.
(3) First Aid 4 - Restores the user's HP by approximately 40% of its maximum HP the first time it is in a pinch each battle.
(3) Harry 3 - Powers up the user's moves against targets that are flinching.
(3) Power Posture - The more the target's Attack is lowered, the more it powers up the user's moves.
(3) Superduper Effective 2 - Powers up moves that are super effective.

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[zealous karma]

HEr damage isnt to bad its just kinda difficult to setup

[nocturne pawn]

and her self setup is kinda pain

[zealous karma]

she needs an attaxk debuffer

[nocturne pawn]

no crit only buffs attack when she uses one ala basically 0 damage