Probably could’ve gotten away with just MayZiken and a sun setter then have a different support
#Champion Stadium
tame gust
peak rune
You should reset for 2k5 Glacia
Just did it with Silver/Blaine/Lyra on my alt. No EX or whatever is needed. There were a few missteps, especially the last one because I didn't expect the RNGlol but whatever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cqQ8d_I2WY
tame gust
Then yeah what went wrong for me was parameters on 2.5k because I didn’t modify them to fit my team’s abilities, which was my bad.
shrewd solar
who would go with a 1/5 irida against drake (round 4)?
my other option is just skyla, mina, crobat stall
but i wanna see if i can make irida work
main crow
Is this hard mode or master mode?
quaint solar
but i wanna see if i can make irida work
Can't go wrong with EX Candice
shrewd solar
master mode 2500
mellow linden
who would go with a 1/5 irida against drake (round 4)?
Do you have Hala at 2/5+?
Heck, probably still fine at 1/5
main crow
He has wise entry so physical dps is more recommended
shrewd solar
who is hala
mellow linden
Crab man
shrewd solar
i guess i dont have tht guy
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shrewd solar
i thought crits go through their spdef buffs, so that's not that relevant when using irida
main crow
Wise entry x2
mellow linden
Wise Entry x2 isn’t Sp. Def. buffs, it doubles the base Sp. Def.
shrewd solar
oh wtf
mellow linden
That cannot be ignored by critical hits or Piercing Blows
mellow linden
Technically Irida + Ghetsis can probably work, it’s just easier if you have a physical Ice damage-dealer
shrewd solar
i used my ghetsis in another stall, so oh well
mellow linden
If you can handle the sides with mostly Irida then Candice could maybe work for nuking the center
main crow
The sides doesn't have entry right?
mellow linden
They do have it
main crow
Oof
Well with IH5 + CS2 (+ maybe zone) could most likely take them considering the lower hp
May take a while but it should be feasible
shrewd solar
well, i was trying a lot with parameters and resetting for luck. irida 1/5 just isn't enough
mellow linden
Could you show your Ice roster?
mellow linden
Ah, yeah, Poison stall might be the way to go then
shrewd solar
im curious, were there some good ice pairs i missed out on?
mellow linden
Or off-typing
mellow linden
im curious, were there some good ice pairs i missed out on?
It’s less you missed Ice pairs and more that you lack the major general pool option (Hala), already used Ghetsis, and haven’t put quite enough investment into Candice yet
This is also a mainly Drake-exclusive problem
shrewd solar
is candice abomasnow actually a good investment?
mellow linden
Since Irida alone can probably handle non-Wise Entry x2 Ice weak stages
mellow linden
is candice abomasnow actually a good investment?
A bit less important of a choice since you have Irida, but she’s got a good Sync nuke
shrewd solar
so most people have a hala and can do something like hala + something?
mellow linden
Well in your case it’s not purely lacking Hala, you just have multiple factors present that make it very difficult to on-type Ice weak Drake specifically given who’s still available
You could try off-type or Poison stall instead
shrewd solar
i did succeed with poison stall
i was just curious about the current state of most players situations
mellow linden
Fortunately Ice weak Drake is the only Ice weak stage where you’d have this sort of issue since no other Ice weak stage has an Entry x2 passive
shrewd solar
i guess i'll just watch out for iceweak drake and prepare a stall team accordingly
mellow linden
Or keep Ghetsis available so you can try Irida + Ghetsis, that team should at least have a reasonable shot at winning
And obviously if you get Hala randomly from scout tickets or while going for a limited you’ll be set
tame gust
Drake likes to be “special” with his triple EQ blasphemy.
steel kelp
That’s sinnoh and hoenn in a nutshell
shrewd solar
can you guys give me an example of a team that you guys would usually use
steel kelp
For what
shrewd solar
iceweak drake (2500 MM)
tame gust
The first EQ was an insult, the following up double chomp EQ was a personal choice.
steel kelp
PBea, ss n or HNessa and another support or attacker
shrewd solar
who is PBea
mellow linden
I personally run Irida + Hala for Ice weak Drake now
steel kelp
Pal bea
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oops
steel kelp
I actually did her with SS n and HRosa and it wa s overkill
I actually had too much meter
nocturne pawn
thats cuz ss n only uses gauge every other turn lol
hala definitely needs gauge more than ss n
mellow linden
Your options depend a bit on who you have, is the major thing
steel kelp
I just used his b move because free and pmun
nocturne pawn
exactly
steel kelp
Which was overkill but no kill like overkill
nocturne pawn
anyway pal bea actually looks like a nice support
steel kelp
I wasn’t expecting it to be that much
nocturne pawn
1.3x defense in hail and +4 to both attacks
steel kelp
Could’ve brought nessa too for the ride
mellow linden
In your case the issue was less who you have in general and more who you had that was still available since Ghetsis was already used elsewhere (btw, if you hadn’t used Janine + Ariados for your Poison stall teams you should start using her for that so you’re less reliant on using Ghetsis)
shrewd solar
yeah i did
i think janine and ghetsis are the two stall debuffers that debuff both spatk and patk
i used them against phoebe and sidney, who are both mixed
drake isn't mixed, so mina was good
nocturne pawn
swimsuit misty and mismagius
shrewd solar
ah, i used xerneas for phoebe and ssb for drake
nocturne pawn
they’re low rarity options that buff defense and have synchro healing in grid
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shrewd solar
ok i don't have that psyduck. i think i have that mismagius, but only 1/5
i see mismagius is a mixed tank and potioner (good for stall)
shrewd solar
im the old man in "the future is now, old man"
hushed sorrel
Lots at Steven this week. Adaman is so op.
steel kelp
Grass in a nutshell
paper summit
Interesting support choice tho...
nocturne pawn
jesus
steel kelp
If only other types got the same love
nocturne pawn
kid named psychic
steel kelp
Wait ain’t adaman physical what’s elesa doin
nocturne pawn
Wait ain’t adaman physical what’s elesa doin
sync accel i guess?
hes fully self sufficient
ss erika kinda struggling though
hushed sorrel
Elesa is a fun unit for me. Get sync 3 moves earlier with the rng tile.
paper summit
Yeah, that's my point, sync acceleration alone is not worth it instead of someone to help Erika
nocturne pawn
i mean adaman already ruins the stage ss erika is just a cherry on the cake
steel kelp
How many turns did erika actually take to set up 
hushed sorrel
I didn't end up using speed... I mean I think she can prob set up properly in 3 turns
rotund lagoon
Lots at Steven this week. Adaman is so op.
Got 17k on sides, cannot remember mid. Team is Spring Burgh (any defensive Support is fine), SS Lyra and Adaman
hushed sorrel
How do you get 5k extra with that team
rotund lagoon
I did not see Terrain on your team
tame gust
Grassy terrain is my guess
rotund lagoon
Grassy Terrain from SS Lyra
hushed sorrel
😮 want
steel kelp
Lyra and acerola
rotund lagoon
SS Lyra is a MF, but there's SS Acerola now
steel kelp
Oh and uh Hjasmine ig
rotund lagoon
Oh and uh Hjasmine ig
Whitney
steel kelp
Not jasmine Whitney
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tired sleet
It was most likely an intentional design choice, given how she has a grass type move
pure haven
U guys think I'm good for tomorrow?
Iirc Glacia doesn't have Sentry Entry x2 this week
old orchid
Yes and yes
pure haven
Nice nice
old orchid
Aaron is Ice weak so be careful
Victor team might face gauge issue unless you only use Acerola's TM and B Move
waxen surge
For the permachart, the ones with (more hp) (more dmg) is beneficial for the opponent?
old orchid
you mean parameters?
waxen surge
Yes
toxic cobalt
Yes, all the buffing parameters benefit the opponents
waxen surge
what’s the point of those one in particular then compared to just the post sync if I may ask
full mesa
This week's CS is going to be a pain...
old orchid
what’s the point of those one in particular then compared to just the post sync ...
post sync = add more bulk to the opponents so you clear the stage after the opponents sync
pre sync = add more damage and very little/no bulk to the opponents so that you can clear the stage before the opponents have a chance to sync
pure haven
Victor team might face gauge issue unless you only use Acerola's TM and B Move
Yeah I ain't planning to use anything other than B an TM
pure haven
Aaron is Ice weak so be careful
Maybe swap Aaron and Hop?
old orchid
that works
shrewd solar
are there some good examples of brendan teams against steven?
tired sleet
What move level is he?
tired sleet
Have you used skyla yet? And do you have ss erika?
shrewd solar
i used ss erika on another team
skyla too
i was thinking roxanne and blaine, but they're not really tanky enough steven probably
tired sleet
Can you show your supports with speed up? (That’s more important than sun imo)
shrewd solar
i was trying without sun by using leaf as a main tank
but i wasn't doing enough damage
maybe i need the change the params more
tired sleet
Which params were you using?
shrewd solar
i tried some on-type presync
but i only did like 3k damage instead of like the 50k i need
hmm, maybe not
ill do it right now
yeah i only do 5k
old orchid
just to be sure, did you choose special damage reduction?
keen jasper
Any last minute clearers?
shrewd solar
shrewd solar
just to be sure, did you choose special damage reduction?
nono
old orchid
no need to ping me
old orchid
switch to ontype presync (more dmg)
does Brendan have full grid and Dauntless as lucky skill?
old orchid
so parameter issue
shrewd solar
the photo i sent is of that choice
old orchid
switch to ontype presync (more dmg)
try this, remember to turn off special dmg reduction
shrewd solar
it's not
shrewd solar
rosa
so back to my original question: are there good examples of brendan teams against steven
even if they are teams i can't make, i just want to know
tired sleet
Do you have physical damage reduction on? Brendan wants his sync nuke
shrewd solar
yeah i do have physical on
so i can use leaf storm
i guess i should turn both of them off
north crown
Yeah you need both his dps and nuke to presync
shrewd solar
yeah so the sync only does 5k damage
and the leaf storm does about the same
5k is about like 10% of the bar.
are you guys forgetting that this is 2500 MM?
shrewd solar
what was the team
old orchid
it was BP Cobalion, Lodge Gloria (a Grass striker) and him
grand trout
do you have asserola
old orchid
the team was a part of a themed run
shrewd solar
i have palossand and acerola
old orchid
they meant SS Acerola
shrewd solar
what kind of damage numbers do you see?
shrewd solar
so brendan hilbert and blaine?
north crown
Yeah
grand trout
looks good
shrewd solar
i'll try it out i guess
north crown
Just need to make sure to build them optimally except blaine
grand trout
although using bullet seed as dps is kinda iffy
unless you're doing leaf storm and brendan's tm
old orchid
Leaf Storm is the dps
grand trout
ah
north crown
Just make sure you aren’t screwing your other cs runs
Nvm the only grass weak stage is the champ
versed meteor
You know i don't think i have done a week without poison stall this hoenn is annoying
grand trout
i havent used poison stall since forever
shrewd solar
with hilbert, if i go for speed buff, i won't be able to do the crit buff
versed meteor
Also who's thread is it that does poison stall runs, do they have for as far back as kalos cs
north crown
with hilbert, if i go for speed buff, i won't be able to do the crit buff
Just use tm first then
Also forgot to mention ramming speed
shrewd solar
yes i have that
north crown
Tho you don’t need it if you bank on xspe mpr
old orchid
Just use Hilbert TM twice first
The first sync doesnt mean to deal huge dmg with that team
north crown
Also forgot to mention ramming speed
I meant amped up mb
old orchid
You can also grid Amped Up on Brendan grid
north crown
Imma log off if other people are here to help
shrewd solar
the main issue is that brendan isn't doing enough to survive presync
old orchid
Aim to pre sync
shrewd solar
yeah im trying
yeah so the damage went up from 5k to 6k, which doesn't really make a difference
mid goes to about 40% hp, and then he syncs
versed meteor
Brendan move level?
toxic cobalt
Brendan should wipe floor. Flinch off Hilbert should help even more.
keen jasper
R1: Make use of moves with additional effects
R2: Use status conditions and other conditions against all opponents
R3: Use powerful moves quickly and constantly against all opponents
R4: Use stat-lowering effects on your opponents
Champion: Use physical attack moves against opponents with low defense
swift swan
updated
versed meteor
R5 yikes
verbal karma
Damn, there is no good R2 candidate this time 😦
Not only that, but R4 is also a decision between Sidney and Drake
Hmm...actually
Maybe R1 Drake and R4 Sidney...so I don't have to deal with Confusion
...and I have a good idea on who to pick for R3, so...I guess R2 is just gonna be throwaway this time
desert berry
Hello what does R1 Hint means
rigid flint
Additional effects refer to some effects that moves can have
E.g. Waterfall flinching
zealous karma
Stuff like flinch poison etc
rigid flint
Thunder paralysing
Basically the chance of Thunder paralysing would be higher, as an example
keen jasper
But not Status Conditions?
It's practically Hostile Environment + Aggravation
keen jasper
I'd say Phoebe since there are dark units who have things like Bite and Dark Pulse
toxic cobalt
R1 is more what you want to do. Build a team with a 60% flincher to win handsomely.
keen jasper
Tho Phoebe is more vulnerable to special attacks
trail smelt
Panicked a bit when Bertha got flinched before she can reset sandstorm… but I needn’t have worried. Cynthia smashed Steven anyway lol
Ready for next week. Decided to do something stupid for Psychic
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Oh damn, my R4 team against Sydney isn't working out for some reasons
dull yarrow
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Is there maybe something wrong with Sycamore/Sabrina/Mina?
dull yarrow
There was no way Phoebe was surviving
toxic cobalt
Oh damn, my R4 team against Sydney isn't working out for some reasons
What team did you use two weeks ago. Do that one again.
rigid flint
Is there maybe something wrong with Sycamore/Sabrina/Mina?
Yeah uh how exactly is Mina benefitting from Sycamore and Sabrina?
dull yarrow
Easiest 12.5k Hoenn CSMM
rigid flint
And also yeah
verbal karma
What team did you use two weeks ago. Do that one again.
Ah, good, the game remembers it for me so I don't have to remember
rigid flint
Use the same team you used 2 weeks ago
dull yarrow
I know I could have probably used a better Rock unit
verbal karma
Yeah uh how exactly is Mina benefitting from Sycamore and Sabrina?
Sycamore: EX support
Sabrina: crit buff
dull yarrow
But Tyranitar is my favorite Pokemon, so any chance to use it
verbal karma
Anyway, gonna switch over to Lyra/Pal!Dawn/Pal!Serena
swift swan
Sycamore: EX support
Sabrina: crit buff
but Mina gets slow attack buffs
sycamore and sabrina are special supports
verbal karma
but Mina gets slow attack buffs
...I was hoping getting crit buffs was enough for her
rigid flint
Mina needs physical supports
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Anyway, switched to the team I used 2 weeks ago
zealous karma
Are you sure your Params are the same
verbal karma
I am 90% certain
I have Phys Damage Reduction instead of Spec Damage Reduction and Interference Immunity instead of Status Cond Immunity
trail smelt
Been there lol
The team I always used to beat bug weak Sidney suddenly didn’t
Losing my touch man
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My team against Sydney from 2 weeks ago is Lyra/Pal!Dawn/Pal!Serena...anything wrong with that team?
trail smelt
What do you use to beat Bug weak Sidney
Last time it was Lusamine. Now I had to try various combinations of Alder or Guzma and parameters.
Double support of Aaron and LDawn
Winning team was Guzma
swift swan
other than the fact that Lyra is frail as hell against Sidney's physical moves, I don't see much problem
who takes second sync?
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Pal!Dawn
Pal!Dawn is 2/5 while Pal!Serena is 1/5
Oh yeah, for further context, Lyra's Solrize has two functions:
buffing her TM
Solar Shield
grand trout
In a team of ingo, Bertha, and courtney, should i sync with bertha or courtney?
keen jasper
Yes
grand trout
I used the frogs on her 💀
swift swan
Oh yeah, for further context, Lyra's Solrize has two functions:
>buffing her TM
...
That means you wait until first sync before you start using her TM. A bit slow, no?
Sidney has very bulky HP too
verbal karma
That means you wait until first sync before you start using her TM. A bit slow, ...
Well, Lyra starts out with buffing crit anyway, so it works out...in theory
verbal karma
How much did her sync do?
around half of Syndey's HP iirc
swift swan
Ideally after first sync your damage dealers are at max offenses
Can i see the params you're running
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Ideally after first sync your damage dealers are at max offenses
Damage dealers are too busy debuffing mid anyway
swift swan
It worked once so I'm sure it'll work again
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Since Pal!Dawn has two things to debuff
swift swan
Damage dealers are too busy debuffing mid anyway
I can imagine that. Dawn and serena will spend the first sync cycle debuffing sidney. But Lyra still hasn't maxed their offenses
grand trout
Hi trin what stage you are now
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I can imagine that. Dawn and serena will spend the first sync cycle debuffing si...
Dawn also spends the second cycle debuffing, actually
Same with Serena
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Hi trin what stage you are now
R4 Sydney
swift swan
Dawn also spends the second cycle debuffing, actually
And what were they doing on the first sync cycle?
dark osprey
In a team of ingo, Bertha, and courtney, should i sync with bertha or courtney?
kinda depends on the move levels, EX or not and also the parameters
swift swan
Serena at least, should finish using cotton spore in the first three turns. Then after support sync she helps out with DPS
dark osprey
personally had courtney & Ingo EX but had taken sync countdown -2 so synced with Courtney and had a max ground move as well to take care of the rest
from leon
grand trout
kinda depends on the move levels, EX or not and also the parameters
Nvm i synced with courtney, she maxed her atk and def faster than bertha
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And what were they doing on the first sync cycle?
Dawn debuffs Attack while Serena paralyzes and debuffs Speed
grand trout
Can't dawn debuff sp def too
verbal karma
on the second cycle, Dawn debuffs Sp. Def while Serena finishes up with the Speed debuffs
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Pal!Dawn
You should t be syncing with PDawn even if she’s ex cause even if you max out her power play it doesn’t do a lot her sync is on the weaker side and Pserenas sync is a lot stronger and PDawn should only be there for her SpDef/Atk debuffs to make the team bulkier and the enemy frailer. While you can use PDawn to shorten Pserenas setup I’d use a different support than Lyra as she can be super frail against sidney
Sabrina PDawn and PSerena was my go to fairy team for the longest time even against sidney because he doesn’t have a super notable dark physical move
grand trout
Oh what's your dps
zealous karma
I’ve also never found it to change Serena’s damage to much trying to max out hunters instincs
grand trout
What's sabrina weak to?
zealous karma
She’s weak to dark but Sidney’s only dark move is his sync
And if he has brutal swing it doesn’t do a lot to her
But in the first cycle I would usually debuff Atk and then post Sabrina sync debuff SpDef with PDawn
As Pserenas setup is on the slower side it is worth to make Sabrina more bulky for later on the fight
grand trout
Pich how do you counter twave with that setup then
grand trout
Ah
zealous karma
Cause after 3 sync buffs Pserenas damage begins to start one shot sides
grand trout
Well for me i use burghepi with status immunity as vigilance is innate on him
zealous karma
It’s a team I’m super experienced with I only stopped using recently due to me wanting to@mess with diantha lel
grand trout
And who are your diantha supps
zealous karma
Ssbrendan and irida
grand trout
Irida? That's interesting
zealous karma
Irida? That's interesting
She debuffs Spatk and SpDef in aoe (drastically increasing her sync) and her SSoH passive increases the teams offenses by 20% so she’s pretty solid for her
grand trout
Ah, do you have ss wally
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Damn, now I am just getting bad RNG...for 20 tries in a row... 😦
grand trout
What's up
verbal karma
either the MPR on Dire Hit All fails, the quadqueue fails or Lyra dies too fast
It's always one of those 3
grand trout
I thought pich told you not to use lyra
grand trout
Also doesn't lyra have a passive that gives +1 crit on DHA
verbal karma
and the team I used two weeks ago had Lyra
grand trout
So she gives full crit even without mpr
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Also doesn't lyra have a passive that gives +1 crit on DHA
...I thought she doesn't?
and even if she does, I ran out of Sync grid energy
So I can't really grid that
grand trout
So I can't really grid that
Oh i see
grand trout
You should t be syncing with PDawn even if she’s ex cause even if you max out he...
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...wait, what do I do about the paralysis then?
Because the paralysis absolutely screws me over
keen jasper
If you're worried about paralysis, do you still have Sycamore?
verbal karma
If you're worried about paralysis, do you still have Sycamore?
Yeah, but Sycamore sadly can't buff crit
keen jasper
Yeah, but Sycamore sadly can't buff crit
Team Sharp Entry
verbal karma
How does lyra evade paralysis?
Solar Shield
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Team Sharp Entry
That's only crit +1
grand trout
Yeah but doesn't the sun set
verbal karma
But I will need a Crit +3
grand trout
By the time twave is used
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Yeah but doesn't the sun set
Nope
grand trout
Do you have other fairies
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Do you have other fairies
keen jasper
Mina can absolutely decimate Sidney
grand trout
Why not diantha?
grand trout
Mina can absolutely decimate Sidney
There still lies the issue of who'll buff mina
I'd rather you do away with paldawn and bring someone who can buff palrena's crit
keen jasper
She can work, but she ruins quadqueue
grand trout
I'd rather you do away with paldawn and bring someone who can buff palrena's cri...
But i suggest this
Before first sync, stun spore and cotton spore absol
Sync with syca
Then on second sync spam moonblasts
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Mina can absolutely decimate Sidney
I actually tried Mina
Her sync deals a lot of damage, but her DPS is miserable
keen jasper
Her Play Rough DPS is fine
verbal karma
her Play Rough hits like a wet towel
Which is a stark contrast to her sync removing 2/3 of Sydney's health
grand trout
Maybe you have physical reduction params or didn't buff her enough
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Maybe you have physical reduction params or didn't buff her enough
Probably the latter because my team didn't have any Atk buffers...if it was the former, then her sync wouldn't have done as much damage as it did
grand trout
Keep in mind mina has no way to buff her stats
Well she does in the tm but it's so situational
pure haven
Which is a stark contrast to her sync removing 2/3 of Sydney's health
Are you reducing Sidney's attack with charm?
keen jasper
Yeah, Mina gains multipliers when the enemy has lowered attack stat
undone ether
this should do it right?
late grove
Should work
verbal karma
Damn, now I am struggling with R5 Steven 😦
and I am using the R4 gimmick, too
is Hapu/Holiday Jasmine/Bertha simply a bad team?
because my Ground-type selection is...extremely limited
old orchid
ofc it is
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like, I desperately need more Ground types
old orchid
you have Naomi...
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...but she's Special Strike
old orchid
so?
verbal karma
I am trying to go Physical
old orchid
i dont see any problem with going special
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R5 gimmick
old orchid
you dont need to take advantage of the round param
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It's not working out with Naomi either 😦
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...damn...I always try to avoid off-typing, though...
...god, I wish I just had more Ground types...
...also, instead of just going off-type, I first want to know just what I am doing wrong with Naomi
her DPS is kinda mediocre with Earth Power, and her sync attack, even with sandstorm and EX support sync buffs only did 1/5 of Steven's HP
and yes, I had Phys Dmg Red instead of Spec Dmg Red
old orchid
you def picked Special Dmg Reduction param
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Which one? There are two
I am using the "More HP" version, and even with that param set, Holiday Jasmine can only barely survive
old orchid
unreal radish
Any order on this week stadium?
old orchid
just be careful with Drake on R4
unreal radish
Thx
dark osprey
...damn...I always try to avoid off-typing, though...
there are a few mons that have decent ground coverage from Galar with their max moves. maybe you have & can try one of them. eg: Rose, Leon, Victor
verbal karma
I have Victor
...that's about it
I don't have Rose and I am happy I don't have Leon
dark osprey
can try nuking with Bertha and some dps with Victor if desparate
grand trout
~~when i lack a physical ontype i pull out gladion ~~
storm moss
Anyone able to help with Steven for MM?
old orchid
post your roster here
grand trout
I am using the "More HP" version, and even with that param set, Holiday Jasmine ...
Hmmm my special params do not use hp ones
storm moss
This is literally it lol....
storm moss
I did have blue but ...
old orchid
and equip 3* gears
storm moss
I died lol
old orchid
SS Blue? use them then
what params did you use? can check pins for recommended param sets
i would use ontype pre sync (more hp) for this team
storm moss
Okie
undone ether
#1072120373858009088 message there we go. all post sync.
Video will come out later i guess rofl.
grand trout
I haven't posted in my thread for ages now
I don't think anyone cares about my clears lol
old orchid
it takes time to get attention, no worries
verbal karma
post your roster here
Using ingame screenshots or that weird website that Dreamy linked to? Because the latter requires me to be home
old orchid
i didnt tell you to do that but using the tracker is more preferable
and i already told you to offtype
you are restricting yourself for no sensable reasons
grand trout
Is gladion considered offtyping
storm moss
I jus lose
undone ether
i think nobody died in my post sync run o-o
keen jasper
Is gladion considered offtyping
Depends if you'll use his TM or not
grand trout
why wouldn't you
old orchid
I jus lose
what went wrong? did you do triple queue properly?
verbal karma
i didnt tell you to do that but using the tracker is more preferable
Ah, shoot...
grand trout
Trin what did you do for sidney
grand trout
Interesting
verbal karma
since I couldn't use Solar Shield, I'd need Sycamore's TM instead
grand trout
Nice you heeded our advice
storm moss
what went wrong? did you do triple queue properly?
I think so? Blue just dies in 3 hits
grand trout
I think so? Blue just dies in 3 hits
What params and what round
old orchid
I think so? Blue just dies in 3 hits
switch to post sync params then
use R3 param since both Courtney and Giovanni are gauge killer
verbal karma
Nice you heeded our advice
Thanks...
...that said, I don't wanna sound like someone who denies help, but...like, every time I was forced to use off-type, I had a horribly hard time actually pulling through with it, which is why I am trying to avoid that
old orchid
why dont you try again?
storm moss
I did it with weird pairs ahahaha
grand trout
Thanks...
...that said, I don't wanna sound like someone who denies help, but......
Did you post your ground units already?
storm moss
switch to post sync params then
Thanks for the help! I was able to do it, posted in stage clear
verbal karma
Did you post your ground units already?
I sure did
Anyway, I was finally able to win with an on-type team
grand trout
Which is
verbal karma
Victor/Holiday Jasmine/Bertha
Victor did DPS while Bertha synced
Bertha's sync did kill the right side, which helped
dark osprey
oh. is your Victor 3/5?
honestly didn't think Victor would be enough for that bulk of Steven
manic kiln
the 
& 
erasures
verbal karma
oh. is your Victor 3/5?
1/5, actually
dark osprey
the <:ClayClown:906955603778347070> & <:HapuStare:658771706680311835> erasures
lol. need to try a clear with them and C Bede or someone I guess. Clay would probably be able to do a post sync with some endures and all
dark osprey
1/5, actually
oh. good stuff then
grand trout
lol. need to try a clear with them and C Bede or someone I guess. Clay would pro...
Cbede, courtney, clay
Clay would appreciate speed debuffs and ground zone
nocturne pawn
why is steven not dying to rose
what a conundrum
should i try using courtney instead of double support with acerola
keen jasper
I don't have Rose, but you're struggling with him?
dull yarrow
What stage Taiyo
keen jasper
What stage Taiyo
Steven
nocturne pawn
I don't have Rose, but you're struggling with him?
it was just barely not killing before he synced but seems like adding courtney was the solution
dull yarrow
Just use Cynthia
nocturne pawn
anyway this was straightforward tbh
besides sidney being a complete ass and queueing close combat first move like 8 different times this week was easy
grand trout
anyway this was straightforward tbh
Do you think karen would have pulled through if she weren't ex
keen jasper
Yes
shrewd solar
Brendan should wipe floor. Flinch off Hilbert should help even more.
Hilbert dies in 3 turns cuz 2500 MM. because he’s buffing speed, he never gets to use waterfall
swift swan
Hilbert dies in 3 turns because you're unlucky and the opponents get to use 3 attacking moves
Hilbert's a fantastic offensive support but not much of a tank, so unfortunately that's what we have to deal with
shrewd solar
Hilbert dies in 3 turns because you're unlucky and the opponents get to use 3 at...
No 2 attacks is all it takes
swift swan
reset if Hilbert dies too quickly. fish for runs where the opponents use items or weaker moves
swift swan
I make hilbert tank all the time and watch him suffer 
keen jasper
I'm still being triggered by Hilbert
swift swan
shrewd solar
Either way, doing 6k per hit with Brendan would takes 8 lead storms and a sync to clear mid. No way to clear presync
toxic cobalt
I tell you, Brendan can presync
swift swan
that was probably a parameter issue
shrewd solar
I did try out the suggested ones that are pinned
toxic cobalt
Did you keep both special and physical damage available?
shrewd solar
Yes
The sync does 6.9k. And leaf storm does like 6k
Maybe your Brendan’s are lvl140 and exed
swift swan
did he crit, were you at maxed speed, a lot of things in play
I can understand leaf storm doing around those numbers but Brendan's sync is good as long as inertia is maxed
swift swan
i wouldn't say it's a very huge difference
shrewd solar
Looks like a +66% versus +99% difference
So not a huge difference
For ramming speed, it’s 1.2 versus 1.3
toxic cobalt
Do you have a video or some screenshots?
sinful garden
anyway this was straightforward tbh
how well does raihan do on rock weak
shrewd solar
Do you have a video or some screenshots?
They were up above. It’s over anyway
dark osprey
how well does raihan do on rock weak
i guess not that great. but with zone and defense debuffs and double AOE with chance of flinch it should be good
once the sides are gone, it should be decent
sinful garden
i see, its just the 1st time i actually see him used for rock
dark osprey
hehe yeah. Roark would be better but may just do too much damage for his own good
dark osprey
got any special dark type damage dealers?
sinful garden
karen is quite great when gridded, shouldnt have trouble if you have her
nocturne pawn
how well does raihan do on rock weak
it was ss diantha carrying but hes a decent chip option
sinful garden
i see
unreal radish
got any special dark type damage dealers?
Only grimsley
nocturne pawn
hes not special
unreal radish
I will try poison stall
nocturne pawn
with that awful spatk hell no
unreal radish
True
dark osprey
as corn mentioned, no Karen?
toxic cobalt
stall round 2
toxic cobalt
nocturne pawn
also
i think i found my favorite team
ss brendan ss hau and diantha
can skip a full turn and then when she megas she drops basically a sync’s worth of damage with a single moonblast
unreal radish
Nice
unreal radish
as corn mentioned, no Karen?
Yeah
dark osprey
guess as mentioned its better to stall else can probably use Karen if she's 3/5 but may not be able clear before the sync and would help if you replace the zone or bring in Darach which would defog the zone and also debuff attack
grand trout
When the round says "more effects" does it mean the chances of secondary effects are doubled?
grand trout
And are the secondary effects like statuses
Oooh
Okay
So debuffs count too
How does it differ from "status conditions are more likely to take effect" then
mellow linden
Should be any secondary effect, so On a Roll + Swag Bag + Aggravation + Hostile Evironment
dark osprey
oh nice. i guess oar, swag bag, aggravation, HE are based on amplifying the existing effect of the move.
But guess it doesn't effect cold snap, staggering etc. which add a separate effect to the move
old orchid
It doesnt
keen jasper
oh nice. i guess oar, swag bag, aggravation, HE are based on amplifying the exis...
It only affects the effects built-in to the move and never to grids
dark osprey
ah thought so. status conditions likely take effect also wouldn't help Cold Snap I guess then
keen jasper
It can make freeze last longer
mellow linden
ah thought so. status conditions likely take effect also wouldn't help Cold Snap...
Status amp round boosts the potency and duration, not the chance of infliction
manic dust
Whew, finally an easy CSMM12.5k week. Only issue was user error in having physical reduction params on the rock weak stage hahahaha
mellow linden
It’s not very hard to actively go for type medal since you’re often running multi-type teams anyways
You’ll ideally wanna shoot for 9-12 types on your 1st week doing type medal, which basically means 2 or more unique types per team (not hard to do)
unreal radish
I don't think I can do 12.5k runs yet
toxic cobalt
Genuinely just find an on-type striker and get them to +3/+6. Everything else is a bonus.
junior crown
I don't think I can do 12.5k runs yet
See https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1011675077764456519 clears, they haven't cleared this week, but they always make the most budget possible for 12.5k
toxic cobalt
+3 crit, +6 atk or spatk
fluid lynx
Is this week extra hard or something? I do 12.5k every week and I legit can't get past the first stage..
rotund lagoon
Is this week extra hard or something? I do 12.5k every week and I legit can't ge...
Hoenn CS is hard, but if you know the fundamentals of teambuilding, the parameters you’re using and what stage you’re on, it is not that hard.
You say you’re doing 2.5k (12.5k total), but what exact params?
quaint solar
Is this week extra hard or something? I do 12.5k every week and I legit can't ge...
Don't know how long you have being playing, but hope you have at least all the F2P EX 🤔 , maybe, you could always google F2P ChampionShip Stadium on YouTube to get you buy each week.
rotund lagoon
Hang on there, please.
mellow linden
F2P guides can be a valuable resource, but depending on their criteria they may suffer from issues of being fairly bare-bones/more open to failure from external forces, making them potentially less helpful for those who have gained a more sizable roster of general pool 5-stars and/or limited Sync Pairs
paper summit
F2P guides are a bit counterproductive tbh, not mentioning they usually require a bit too much investment and good knowledge of the game in the first place
rotund lagoon
Yeah, it all comes down to how much you actually know about the gameplay.
plush tangle
auroch's doing a f2p cs clear each week
plush tangle
a newbie either can learn by watching the video or just copy paste the strat
paper summit
you expect too much of people
mellow linden
And having that resource is definitely valuable, it’s just important to not tunnel vision on purely f2p pairs if you have more than just f2p pairs at your disposal (just like it’s important to not tunnel vision on purely 5-stars when the 3- and 4-star pairs are plenty valuable)
plush tangle
you expect too much of people
then let them struggle with their CS
fluid lynx
I was able to clear it. Was just a tough typing week I think. Phoebe especially hit like a truck. I off-typed Sidney and Phoebe, poison stalled Glacia, then was able to clear Drake with Olivia and Steven with Rose
paper summit
they struggle regardless, that's the thing
mellow linden
I was able to clear it. Was just a tough typing week I think. Phoebe especially ...
Congrats!
plush tangle
someone who's willing to learn just the basics won't struggle
paper summit
granted the people having a hard time even when copying everything are in the minority
paper summit
someone who's willing to learn just the basics won't struggle
true, the issues arise when the person stays on the "blindly copying without bothering to understand what they are even doing"
plush tangle
ignore that kind of people
paper summit
don't worry, I do
plush tangle
then they're not an issue 
junior crown
Yeah, it all comes down to how much you actually know about the gameplay.
Off topic, but how can I get that Togepi icon?
mellow linden
I think it’s from winning the Metronome event back in April
rotund lagoon
I think it’s from winning the Metronome event back in April
Yep, that’s what it was
Something I won 
Here’s the video @junior crown #1073655215363985498 message
junior crown
GG, I totally missed it 
rotund lagoon
Yeah it was insane luck lmao
zealous karma
Ah, do you have ss wally
I don’t no
noble plaza
So who should am I doing/avoiding for certain rounds this week?
nocturne pawn
nothing really stands out
r2 is the poison stall round so if ur having trouble save them for that
noble plaza
oh yeah haha
good ol' poison stall
should I use Darach versus Phoebe or one of my zone setters like SC Ingo or Irida
noble plaza
i'm using karen vs Phoebe. Should I use an Ex support sync first or use Karen's sync first?
quaint solar
i'm using karen vs Phoebe. Should I use an Ex support sync first or use Karen's ...
For me, I would EX support or poison stall thus week to Phoebe.
zealous karma
i'm using karen vs Phoebe. Should I use an Ex support sync first or use Karen's ...
Karens she wont do damage otherwisze
paper summit
i'm using karen vs Phoebe. Should I use an Ex support sync first or use Karen's ...
Karen needs to sync asap because she only gets Dark Pulse after mega evolution, she works the same as Blue
zealous karma
She blue and zinnia want to sync first (zinnia against flying weak that is)
noble plaza
should I use her sync twice or pair her with an EX Support?
zealous karma
her second sync should be able to kill phoebe
supports that can ex after second sync are usually supports that can also skip her first cycle like SSbrendan Cbede elesa and CCalem
sync not ex woops
noble plaza
oH COME ON IT WAS SO CLOSE TO DYING POST-SYNC WITH A QUADQUEUE 
fervent otter
can someone help me with sidney, i cant get past him on round 3
diantha isnt pulling any weight at 1/5
zealous karma
Do you show your roster?
Or the team you were using for her altho I am not sure if she can beat sidney at 1/5 lel
fervent otter
i did previously, but have updated it since. do i show it here?
zealous karma
If you don’t mind tk take time to update it I’d appreciate it if you did
I didn’t see you post it before so that’s why I ask lel
fervent otter
here you go
zealous karma
In the future take pictures from the poryphone menu/upgrades or the pair tracker it takes less space and, in upgrades shows more units.
Hmm I’d try off typing with maybe
Adaman Brendan skyla
fervent otter
got it, ill upgrade them rn
zealous karma
I don’t think they need to be ex’d
fervent otter
okay
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north crown
In the future take pictures from the poryphone menu/upgrades or the pair tracker...
I don’t think you mentioned the sync pair tracker
zealous karma
I did lel
paper summit
totally not being carried
zealous karma
hop gaming
hushed sorrel
Trying to do drake again with non ex olivia, anyone done the same?
toxic cobalt
Shouldn't be too much of an issue, so long as you have 2/5 or 3/5 Olivia
swift swan
stone edge the sides, nuke the mid
pure haven
I think I'm good for next week
Oh wait I'm dumb af
I have scSteven
Gonna swap that instead of MR
hushed sorrel
I tried nuke the sides then not enough damage for mid. Quite hard to quad queue with sandstorm as well. Keen to see someone pull it off
old orchid
just dont use Sandstorm early
pure haven
I tried nuke the sides then not enough damage for mid. Quite hard to quad queue ...
I could help u but my Olivia's EX 
pure haven
just dont use Sandstorm early
You'll usually want to do sandstorm turn 2
Since you're gonna be buffing 1st turn
hushed sorrel
I already did it with Rose but it was so easy it felt unsatisfying lol
old orchid
or just right before sync
pure haven
Also sandstorm presync
hushed sorrel
Yea I’ll record a run soon. I sandstorm after 1st then stone edge on the same turn
pure haven
I already did it with Rose but it was so easy it felt unsatisfying lol
I'm at the verge of pulling him but anniversary is right around the corner
pure haven
I think I'm good for next week <:RosaThink:815426654955503627>
What do u think Gakon?
hushed sorrel
O wait sorry it eas Phoebe for dark
Glacia I did with non ex Bea
I see now you are planning for next week
old orchid
What do u think Gakon?
May barely contributes in Blue's team, either using another special Flying dmg dealer or an accuracy support for Blue
you can move May to Cyrus' team
Glacia team is alright but watch out for aoe spam
hushed sorrel
They are thinking of that tile that increase damage in rain after upgrade?
pure haven
May barely contributes in Blue's team, either using another special Flying dmg d...
I brought her mostly because of rain so Blue doesn't fail Hurricane
hushed sorrel
I think Rose is such a good unit for newer players to get rewards on CS. He is so op lol
The max move is like an ex sync
umbral crow
he is jack of all trade, cool sync pair for newbies but meh for old players.
toxic cobalt
He'll shine in Steel-Type Masters event
north crown
Bro wrong chat
mild hatch
Oh whoops!
river pagoda
Teams look ok for next week?
swift swan
looks okay
river pagoda
Idk how often dragon weak drake gonna use outrage so I thought to bring acerola plus weather change if needed, that's the only one I'm rlly unsure abt tbh
Also might need faster spdef buffs on fire weak glacia so might need to swap out kukui?
I assume she's gonna hit just as hard as usual 😔
swift swan
ss morty and ss may will wreck Glacia very quickly I believe. If Glacia spams Blizzard too often, you can reset
same with Drake
north crown
Also can skip a turn if kukui lands a flinch turn 1 or 2
hushed sorrel
Its quite satifying to get -6 def and beat them down with Bea lol. Non ex Bea clear. https://youtu.be/sBNTVVeMRdg
topaz light
Quick question on the preset screenshots, is anyone able to explain the headings/where they should be used? I imagine on type is if you have super effective moves towards it, off typed is without that
What's pre-sync post sync? Is that you trying to defeat it before/after they sync?
Is there a recommended one to go for as a beginner trying to push for higher points? If these questions are better for #poma-questions ill move across to there :) Thanks!
(If this has already been explained or i've missed it please just forward me to the resource if its easier, thank you!)
hushed sorrel
I think this is the right place
Yes pre-sync. You pretty muvh give oppoenent majority damage upgrades so you can beat them before they sync
Post sync you give them less damage and a bit more hp. Good if your team need a bit more time to build up.
When I first started I just did the recommended 5k first. You should also explore poison stall early. This is a much easier way to get through a stage that you get stuck on.
toxic cobalt
"Is that you trying to defeat it before/after they sync?" 
As a beginner I found pre-sync easier, once you figure out how to triple queue. That said, easiest is often stall as Blaaand says, a good backup for times like this week's dark sentry entry
hushed sorrel
O I did drake with non ex Olivia. Needed to go post sync
hushed sorrel
Lols Rose killed sides before first sync. Gg
topaz light
I managed to get around 4200 just experimenting with different things, I managed to get my first 2.5k yesterday with poison stall too which was nice
topaz light
As a beginner I found pre-sync easier, once you figure out how to triple queue. ...
I guess my problem is building teams that can blast pre-sync.. especially this week as I don't have too many great options weakness wise :c
Ill experiment and see what I feel I can beat, thank you for the responses guys :)
nocturne pawn
Lols Rose killed sides before first sync. Gg
good to know that this was also a cohesive team
long thicket
Oh my gosh, I clutched Glacia hard....
Hop and Wally combo with two EX Striker syncs. I was lucky to be quick enough to defeat the second side unit after the second sync.
dark osprey
Ss Brock plus Grant if he's allowed
I guess then Roark would be better
Or probably regular Brock to get some healing as well if surviving the sync is possible
toxic cobalt
I guess then Roark would be better
dark osprey
Anyways sentry entry dark and that super bulky with enhanced attack ground weak Steven seem like to many reasons to poison stall for f2p
onyx ice
Lols Rose killed sides before first sync. Gg
With SS Giovanni, Courtney, Leon they just landed the 1st move
mellow linden
Ouch, the gauge
plush tangle
with such a team you don't need all 3 to attack
onyx ice
The only 2 moves that use gauges are ground wish turn 1 and a mega kick at the end to kill the left side
long shard
I missed beating Steven last week, anyone got any teambuilding advice with this pool of units? My current best attempt was with Sabrina, Bertha and Hapu/Phoebe, managed to kill the Metagross but always end up dying to the sides. The biggest problem I'm facing is that Metagross with his Crit Next will always one shot any tank I use. Phoebe has Vigilance which has helped with survivability but still hasn't enabled me to clear metagross with all 3 units standing.
I also tried a team with Ho-oh Silver as dps and then using the +status condition rule to make burn hit harder, alongside trapping, stealth rock and sandstorm from Bertha, I managed to do quite a bit of damage, but then Bertha gets crit 1shot and Sabrina falls immediately after.
long shard
Just hard mode
mellow linden
Just wanted to make sure
mellow linden
Gimme a sec to check something
Might have to off-type with Kris + Winona + Hilbert
Since Kris can be gridded with Critical Focus and make use of her Trainer Move to help get it going to offset Hilbert currently lacking crit buffs
long shard
I put a lot of resources into Bertha because I saw people using her in the cleared section 
nocturne pawn
shes good but more specific
mellow linden
The main thing with Bertha is that the only major damage-dealer you have that really appreciates her is Olivia
And in this scenario a 3/5 Kris under Rain would be the better pick
long shard
I got critical strike 2 on kris
mellow linden
That’s fine, yeah
long shard
whats the tactic? Hilbert > Winona?
mellow linden
Yeah, Hilbert should be 1st target
Might need to reset if Steven gets a bit too Hammer Arm-happy
long shard
also what ruleset
mellow linden
More likely secondary effects if you wanna try to have even more reliable flinch with Winona (can grid her for Aggravation, btw), faster gauge otherwise. At least IMO
mellow linden
I wouldn’t worry about Hurricane, Winona won’t be dealing much damage with no dedicated buffer and Air Slash’s flinch is more valuable than Hurricane’s confusion anyways
long shard
So feraligators damage is sky high but it still doesn't help with Metagross 1 shotting everything with crit moves
And having endure on top
if only I had more lucky scrolls and cream cookies so I could roll for vigilance 
toxic cobalt
How much 
do you have?
long shard
almost got it this time, I sync move crit for 11k and took out metagross before he could slay pelipper but then the sides began their earthquake spam and I lost with steelix being 1 mega kick away from death
long shard
How much <:Corb:743182010092093580> do you have?
well I just used it all on kris
this is what I could make
zealous karma
Is it possible for you to ditch crit focus and grab haymaker?
mellow linden
Critical Focus is kinda important unless they ditch Hilbert for someone else since their Hilbert is only 1/5
long shard
I'd have to sacrifice other stuff
mellow linden
Can always wait a couple days since CS just reset yesterday. Got a little over half a week left
toxic cobalt
Are you fishing for flinches?
long shard
not sure what you mean but, I am using aerial ace and waterfall from pelipper and samurott
however feraligator im using only mega kick and sync move
toxic cobalt
Sounds right, just target it well and hope you get them
mellow linden
Are you using Kris’ Trainer Move at all?
Because you at least should be using it once at the start of the fight to get Critical Focus going
mellow linden
Alright, just making sure
toxic cobalt
bright furnace
swift swan
Mael why do you do this to yourself
plush tangle
It's been a running gag for so long I made the joke real
old orchid
Next time: Blissful Bonaza solo
rotund lagoon
frank shuttle
It sucks I'm lacking fairy on my roster and I don't wanna use other units
zealous karma
Mina is pretty solid from my experience
rotund lagoon
Agreed, Mina is pretty good
toxic cobalt
Mina with good support will work this week. Otherwise poison.
frank shuttle
Yeah my fairy units lol
toxic cobalt
Four limiteds!!!!
old orchid
you have Lisia and Diantha lol
toxic cobalt
Spam giga impact
swift swan
Go zoom and then go brrr but fairy
rotund lagoon
Tbf, 1/5 Diantha kinda sucks
But yeah a NY Lisia should make Fairy pretty good for ya
swift swan
we've had this diantha discourse before haven't we
rotund lagoon
I’M NOT BRINGING THIS HERE—
old orchid
@/Tai go ban these Diantha slanders
rotund lagoon
SS Mina should go pretty well with Diantha anyway
rotund lagoon
Yeah my fairy units lol
What teams have you tried with your Fairy units?
zealous karma
~~Tbf, 1/5 Diantha kinda sucks~~
Shes worked for me !
I used to use diantha LDawn and BPmorty
rotund lagoon
Mine is 2/5, dude
zealous karma
When I used that team mine was 1/5 lel
nocturne pawn
i never struggled with 1/5 diantha and honestly 3/5 hardly improves her
in my teams shes literally never getting devastation up reasonably
old orchid
3/5 unlocks her nuke which helps a lot
nocturne pawn
3/5 unlocks her nuke which helps a lot
yeah but if you’re running her with ss hau its kinda hard to set up
like
old orchid
2/5 has Moonblast On a Roll
zealous karma
just use oleana happy face
old orchid
which helps setting up Devastation a little bit
nocturne pawn
just use oleana happy face
then i lose zone
zealous karma
oh hau has zone forgor
old orchid
just pull SS Wally 
nocturne pawn
just pull SS Wally <:SerenaSip:623126213224955904>
i aint getting shit bro i got 3 new units in like a week 💀
zealous karma
I will never forgive oleana for gatekeeping me from 4 star power ups
nocturne pawn
I will never forgive oleana for gatekeeping me from 4 star power ups
???
zealous karma
long story
rotund lagoon
I use SS Wally with Diantha now, honestly a big brain combo
zealous karma
I wanted to 5 star LIrida so I pulled on the first banner I saw that wasnt V*riety and I got no 4 star power ups but got oleana
nocturne pawn
I use SS Wally with Diantha now, honestly a big brain combo
i keep saying ss wally was designed to pair with diantha
b move -1 rebuff and -4 spatk
zealous karma
and atk
nocturne pawn
I wanted to 5 star LIrida so I pulled on the first banner I saw that wasnt V*rie...
💀
zealous karma
Mina erasure
nocturne pawn
diantha
nocturne pawn
ew why are you running her with -2 gauge
rotund lagoon
…..that’s how I do CS tho
zealous karma
People dont use -2 gauge?/
nocturne pawn
i dont for that team cuz its gonna run out of steam without speed
zealous karma
I would only select it off if I am trying to showcase a sync powerflux unit the gauge on this team was fine enough until brendan died
nocturne pawn
proper gauge support makes that a non issue
which isnt really brendan but yeah
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Brendan has good gauge 
fiery canopy
ok ok time for this week yaya
nocturne pawn
Brendan has good gauge <:HilbertHmm:625860604347023360>
270 speed is kinda average and everyone else is also around that range
i guess it does get rectified somewhat by ft9 but beyond tm giving free moves and freevenge in mega i wouldn’t necessarily say its good
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my brendan is ex 150 so mine has 344 spd with gear
nocturne pawn
interesting
old orchid
i have never faced gauge issue with SS Brendan
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same with diantha
fiery canopy
alrightie lemme think over my teamz
phoebe: cmarnie, any support rly cuz she can handle herself pretty well
drake: emmet, anyone else
glacia: solgaleo, hop, bea maybe? but i kinda need gauge support
sidney: sycamore, diantha, anybodie
steven: courtney, ingo, anyone else
any tips or suggestions?
nocturne pawn
bea with hilbert sweeps the stage
fiery canopy
gotcha
nocturne pawn
even non 3/5
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I would maybe bring a spdef supp or a flincher for bea cause she is already pretty frail and glacia's blizzard hits like a train
fiery canopy
kk!
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wait hop as in champion hop?
fiery canopy
no just base hop
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oh kk
nocturne pawn
just
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Wanted to make sure
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glacia has piercing gaze
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yes
nocturne pawn
i thought it was just no quarter
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nocturne pawn
yikes
fiery canopy
for cmarnie against phoebe, any particular supports youd recommend?
fiery canopy
kewl
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It’s marnie on type so it’s overkill lel
You could save lucian for a team that needs it more th o
nocturne pawn
she literally ruins any dark weak content ever
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Also don’t run diantha with sycamore those two fight for sync unless your diantha is 3/5 I’d use lucian for her instead
fiery canopy
oh gotcha
nocturne pawn
i swear to god theres like 3 special attack supports in gen pool and they all have the bulk of a wet tissue
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Sabrina with sentry entry 2 tanks this stage fairly well but I know that’s not very available for most players
nocturne pawn
mfw deluxe skill
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it only comes from bronze cookies but as I said not superr available
nocturne pawn
it only comes from bronze cookies but as I said not superr available
that honestly makes it worse💀
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clover you have ssbrendan right or am i thinking of someone else
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o
fiery canopy
just gonna go ingo and emmet for drake
need a third unit tho
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kukui with aoe def debuffs, but still only use stone edge
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true
frank shuttle
What teams have you tried with your Fairy units?
Sorry got busy with my son I used this team lol 😂
rotund lagoon
Sorry got busy with my son I used this team lol 😂
You do not need to do monotype teams first of all
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sycamore or diantha
Diantha, I tried using falkner and lucian and it worked pretty well for me my diantha is Ex
rotund lagoon
Second of all, I’d replace regular Mina with a Df debuffer
Actually……SS Mina cannot top off NY Lisia’s attack, I don’t think
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Idt lysis necessarily needs it
rotund lagoon
She cannot raise Crit either so NY Lisia will have to do Dire Hit + twice
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It’s one of the strongest damage dealers on type in zone
north crown
who's struggling?
north crown
Sorry got busy with my son I used this team lol 😂
gauge where?
rotund lagoon
No one, why do you ask?
Tbh, SS Mina could just be there for zone and utility while third slot could have an Atk/Crit buffer. Bonus points if Sonia
fiery canopy
aight sooo diantha/lucian/uhhh i already used ssmina like a dummie
frank shuttle
I'm about to go Ash and nuke the hell out of them 
rotund lagoon
aight sooo diantha/lucian/uhhh i already used ssmina like a dummie
You on Fairy?
toxic cobalt
I'm about to go Ash and nuke the hell out of them <:ohhellnah:110876310713375541...
Just replace Mina with Skyla
rotund lagoon
Aurochs, may I add something?
With that current team, NY Lisia will need to take three turns to fully buff herself since she will basically have no outside help with the team of SS Mina, Skyla and her.
frank shuttle
Just replace Mina with Skyla
Who the hell is Skyla 😂