Champion Stadium

[unreal radish]

Do you use light screen and reflect too Azriel?

[junior crown]

only if we have permanent effect field parameter (like R5 this week)

[unreal radish]

I see

[junior crown]

but can be done without it

[unreal radish]

What units have venom drench besides Janine and tech Nidoqueen?

[junior crown]

Oleana now

[cinder summit]

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> <:TYPE_POISON:967452396382994485> Venom Drench

Gauge: 2 | Power: - | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: All opponents
Effect Tag: -
Lowers the target's Attack, Sp. Atk, and Speed by 1 stat rank when the target is poisoned or badly poisoned. Fails when the target is not poisoned or badly poisoned.

Sync Pairs with Move:

Janine & Ariados
Oleana & Garbodor

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[junior crown]

but you have other pairs that drops the offensive status that you can use

[mellow linden]

Ghetsis being one of the most notable ones

[unreal radish]

Our boi Lucian can help too

[zealous karma]

I care to much about my stage clears post lel

[grand trout]

I used leon, gordie, and melony against glacia

Nope I didn't change hail

[zealous karma]

but gordie has sun

[tired sleet]

And Melony has healing hail

[dusty yarrow]

Max Flare can not spawn Sun... if you turn this on

[steel kelp]

well yes that is what the parameter says it does

[rapid mica]

Man what is up with CS this week

Everything is murdering me 😂

[nocturne pawn]

phoebe and sidney just hit really hard for whatever reason and glacia and drake really want you to change the weather

[toxic cobalt]

If you send them to sleep it’s not too bad, the weather expires

[nocturne pawn]

honestly drake even in sandstorm isnt that bad

glacia in hail is evil

[zealous karma]

Glacia also has high fofenses

[nocturne pawn]

even with +4 from ss brendan she was beating the shit out of my units

[zealous karma]

whats glacia weak too?

[nocturne pawn]

fire

[zealous karma]

O

Ethan is to good for glacia

[old orchid]

Glacia gets +30% bulk under hail

truly evil

[nocturne pawn]

i legit didnt notice

i was just malding cuz she kept killing ghetsis when i wanted to set up my nuke

which didnt crit but still did 21k

[paper summit]

Ghetsis? Anni N nuke?

[nocturne pawn]

yes what about it

honestly the real toxicity from that fight was the speed drops from icy wind

[paper summit]

just wondering what was Ghetsis business in that fight

[nocturne pawn]

noble roar

was there a better way

probably

am i stubborn

yes

[paper summit]

she got absurd luck with crits when spamming lovely Blizzards and such against me, took me a bit to actually reach a damn sync

[nocturne pawn]

im considering running hs1 on ghetsis cuz the only time i ever use him is with ss brendan who has double head start

[river pagoda]

Best phys fighting striker in here for fighting weak glacia next week? I assume it's between spring may and Bea cuz the rest have ass BP/stats but is 1/5 may > Bea? She takes way too long to setup ☠️

[paper summit]

supports exist you know?

Bea all the way

[old orchid]

Bea > Wally > Bruno >>>>> Spring May

[paper summit]

she has a bunch of TMs but that doesn't mean you have to tap all of them

[river pagoda]

spring may has 0 fightiing moves before her sync thts what i mean ☠️ her buffs come easily but the moves r the problem

[river pagoda]

pain oki

had a feeling

she is literally almost dead weight b4 sync

[old orchid]

no need to ping me btw

[paper summit]

oh, I meant Bea

[river pagoda]

o mb forgot

[river pagoda]

in my original msg i meant tht may takes too long to setup bea is just fine for me

[paper summit]

pings, drop the pings

[river pagoda]

o god

[paper summit]

ok then, just use Bea

[river pagoda]

sry i dont use the off thingy often not used to it

mk

pain i rlly thought may wud be bettter

but she just takes too long

[paper summit]

old pair syndrome, and she is just too gimmicky

[river pagoda]

yeah after i got her i never rlly got the chance to use her and reading her kit i was like

shes kinda mid

[north crown]

anything that I could help with?

[river pagoda]

but maybe im missing something and shes worth the effort

[north crown]

wait who's mid?

[river pagoda]

spring may

[north crown]

ah Bea

[river pagoda]

nono

bea is gr8

[north crown]

wait what

spmay.. why her? you doing the medal?

[river pagoda]

fightinig weak glaciia next week

got her cuz fave a while ago

never got chance to use her

wanted to next week

[north crown]

ah it's a fav

move level?

[river pagoda]

yeah i have a lot of dead weight units tht i just full boost despite them being dog just cuz theyre faves ☠️

shes 1/5

idt its worth using her over bea rn

unless i wanna die to blizzards

she takes too long to do dmg and she needs sync for any dmg whatsoeve

[north crown]

hmm... if you really want to use her, I'd just build a stupidly OP team for her

[river pagoda]

i mean im alr using sc steven

[north crown]

Treat her as if she's Korrina, cuz they're p similar in terms of DPS and self suff capability

[river pagoda]

never used korrina

does she also need sync for dmg

ah

ic

[tired sleet]

Korrina doesn’t need sync tho

[north crown]

not really, tho both have mega forms that greatly help their dps

korrina moreso likes the stats

spmay is p much mandatory

[river pagoda]

maybe ill use may as my potion support till i can get second sync

[north crown]

yeah essentially, unless you could opt to use her tm for teamwide speed

[river pagoda]

she will do 1 dmg in 2.5k w tht 80% non-eff dr

true tht cud work

ill put her in for now and if they all die ez next week

bea it is

[north crown]

ah she's almost self suff except for crit. nice. didn't even know she had solo fanfare 6 at base

[river pagoda]

Ya thts the one good thing

[north crown]

ig she's a bit more similar in blue in a way since she also needs her tm for acc buffs

hm

perhaps this could work:
crit support ex, spmay, flincher/sleeper/debuffer (kukui..?)

oh or if you got cobalion, you could easily go:
OP EX Support, SpMay, MCCobalion

[river pagoda]

O sht

Was so focused on using sc Steven to buff and debuff to oblivion

Forgot Abt crit

How this look

[north crown]

oh dhit holjasmine is a good contender

also scsteven has p good synergy with spmay, so there's that. idk how good, tho ik it's good.

[river pagoda]

May is slow as well so jasmine wud prob need to potion by the time may gets her sync

[tired sleet]

SC Steven applies No Evasion to the enemies, so he’s definitely great with May

[river pagoda]

^ + mass def debuffs

Seun

Phys up next

Spd buffs

[north crown]

no eva indefinitely? if so, you don't even need to use her tm post sync

[river pagoda]

Type rebuff too

[river pagoda]

Think it's just for one hit?? IDR tho

[north crown]

wow scsteven is cracked for making cracked cs teams

[river pagoda]

I j keep spamming leer to get em fully down to -6

He's goated for physical teams

Special too w type rebuff and seun

[tired sleet]

No evasion lasts approx 1 sync cycle (it’s the same as thorton’s telekinesis)

[river pagoda]

YEAH thts what it was thx

[north crown]

rip

[river pagoda]

I remember it wasn't indefinite

[north crown]

eh sounds good enough

if most of the team can somehow survive sync, this team will be able to complete the stage

[river pagoda]

Thts y I put hol jasmine ☠️ let's hope

Kinda doubt it tho but oh well

[north crown]

make sure you use post sync params

[river pagoda]

Yaya I alr did

[tired sleet]

If it’s SC Steven wouldn’t it pre sync

[north crown]

too many people here suffer because of lack of attention to their own options

[river pagoda]

I need to supp sync and may sync to do DMG w her ☠️ ain't no way I'm pre syncing tht

[north crown]

unless she can presync with 3 se boosted mega kicks: 2 with 1 sync buff, and 1 with 2 sync buffs.

or you get an extra mega kick by foregoing acc buffs from the bunny's tm

[tired sleet]

If you quad queue you could hypothetically get a mega kick after the 3rd sync buff with seun and however many pmun

[river pagoda]

Will see next week how hard I'm coping w may 🦍

[river pagoda]

Ooo I've never done quad queue B4 but will see

[swift swan]

quadqueue is a gamechanger for presync gameplay

[river pagoda]

remember seeing someone post a guide for it when i first started but i never read it

maybe i shud for next week gonna need it

[swift swan]

+quadqueue

[frozen depot]

Watch this footage (17s clip) : https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3Nr07pJo2Noud7AwWW4yWQQIDbYsQTJQ
In this clip, when Flannery is about to Sync the opponent Aaron has nothing queue'd in the list. This leaves us with a very short window after the sync to queue a fourth move. Note in the clip how Flannery queues her TM before the opponent's High Horsepower. Look out for the orange "spiral aura" around your syncing Pokemon after the sync, the correct timing to queue is when that spiral is fading away, but you can also resort to button mashing!

The benefits of quad-queue is that it allows us to get two sync moves before the opponent's first one which is a game-changer if you're not using sync acceleration. A Sync Move does not count toward the Sync Countdown which is why without Quad-Queue or Sync Accel your second cycle usually leaves you at 1 countdown left when the opponent is using their Sync.

Note that Quad-Queue cannot be done under certain conditions that will make the opponent queue as your sync is executing :

• If a field effect (such as weather, zone, move gauge acceleration etc) expires on the turn you're syncing. Usually happens if a field effect was cast on entry or first turn.
• If an allied passive triggers an effect right after an enemy action completes (such as First Aid, Team Shout, Freevenge etc...)

[river pagoda]

ohhH

all this time i thought it was just u somehow managed to clcik another move/tm before/while ur sync move was playing, not right after ☠️

gotchu

thx

click sync when they have nothiing queued and make sure no field effeects expire right

Also does this team look fit enuff for rock weak drake?? Was thinking acerola better just cuz of flinches but not sure

[tired sleet]

It should probably work, just watch out for the earthquakes that drake spams

[river pagoda]

probs gonna go acerola then

These teams look ok for next week? Off typing fairy weak Sidney and ground weak Steven and tryna presync both so cud use some extra scrutiny on those ☠️☠️

[north crown]

Question: why is TLDawn with SuN?

[swift swan]

sp atk debuffs I presume

[north crown]

does he have a dmg multiplier for that?

[river pagoda]

no but hes spatker

[north crown]

gimme a sec to search up his kit

[river pagoda]

who summer n?

im j running him as a snarl nuke

[tired sleet]

If you have him at 3/5 she’s good for devastation

[river pagoda]

yep

thts what she there for

helps him a lot cuz he EX too

if base isnt enuff then sides having spatk down means theyre dead

[north crown]

I just feel bad for Phoebe now..

[river pagoda]

never used her ;0 what she do

o wait

im dumb

u meant the stage

[river pagoda]

i am dumb i thought yall were talking abt spdef but ya spatk debuyff for devastation + spatk* mass debuffs

helps a lot

plus 150% mult from devastation and obscuring sync 5 shud be enuff

Ok after realizing lodge dawn does not in fact drop spdef I changed to lodge Steven for mass spdef down + flinches ☠️ N snarls shud -6 by the time 2nd sync rolls around so it shud be fine especially w the 40% chance to -2 on his grid

[swift swan]

ccalem and summer N should wreck either way, no matter who the third is. you'll be fine

[river pagoda]

Let's hope 😩 thx for the advice y'all I'ma head to sleep

[north crown]

could just keep tldawn for faster spatk debuffs + teamwide speed buffs

[twin flare]

Where can I find teams against Steven?

[old orchid]

post your roster here and we will help you making a team

[twin flare]

Alright, where do I do that again?

Is it PoMa tools?

[old orchid]

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[twin flare]

I think this should be all

The paid sync pairs levels should be correct

Other BP, f2p and such haven't been filled in

[toxic cobalt]

What level are Brendan and SS Erika?

Both work

[twin flare]

Brendan and SS Erika are lvl 2 and 4 respectively

[rigid flint]

Level 2?

Do you mean 2/5?

[dark osprey]

oh those two with Skyla may be a decent team

[twin flare]

Yea

[rigid flint]

https://imgur.com/AvsayWJ

[twin flare]

What? together?

[rigid flint]

Moment

[twin flare]

Oh together

[rigid flint]

Yeah they all work well together

[twin flare]

I'll try em out

[keen jasper]

Why does this UI look different?

Oh NVM, this was the previous UI

I mean I thought that the previous UI was still here

[twin flare]

The winning team was Sycamore Volkner and Erika. I thought I would use electric terrain to cancel out Psychic terrain, but his flinch came in clutch instead xD

[marble orbit]

Was about to ask the same thing

Phoebe does 2 KOs on me after her sync and I still can't figure out why

Im using Syca Koga Giovanni

[nocturne pawn]

ehhh i dont like that team

giovanni needs special attack buffs and sycamore is slow at providing those

someone like roxanne would be better since he already maxed his own crit

[marble orbit]

Syca buff is through his sync, which is kinda slow in this case

So i was thinking of replacing him

Lemme try with roxanne

[latent eagle]

What the hell why can't I beat Phoebe bruhh even SST red gets one shot by heat wave

[rotund lagoon]

Are you off typing Phoebe?

[nocturne pawn]

sounds like you’re taking too many attack up parameters

[latent eagle]

I tried off typing bc on typing wasn't working

It's the regular off type parameter so

[rotund lagoon]

So, let’s start there. How come on typing wasn’t working? Like taking different parameters or your team could be a factor.

The parameters favor on typing quite a bit, and Ghost is honestly good these days.

[latent eagle]

Even when I was on typing I basically getting my butt kicked by earthquake, I was using the on type presync parameter

[rotund lagoon]

Ghost team you used?

[latent eagle]

Tried SS brenan/fantina/hex then fall allister/gio/SS Brendan then anni N/ghetsis (for Nobel roar)/gio/SS Brendan

[zealous karma]

Those are all very good teams ar you sure you don’t have special damagr reduction param or no stat penalties enabled?

Unless you mean you were using hex with Fantina you shouldn’t, shadow ball does a lot more damage even if Fantina had a status

[cinder summit]

Fantina & Mismagius

<:CATEGORY_SPECIAL:967450752098390077> <:TYPE_GHOST:967452395850309692> Ominous Wind

Gauge: 2 | Power: 47 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
Has a chance (10%) of raising the user's Attack, Defense, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def, and Speed by 1 stat rank.

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> X Sp. Atk

Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: Self
Effect Tag: -
Raises the user's Sp. Atk by 2 stat ranks.

<:CATEGORY_SPECIAL:967450752098390077> <:TYPE_GHOST:967452395850309692> Shadow Ball

Gauge: 3 | Power: 99 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
Has a chance (20%) of lowering the target's Sp. Def by 1 stat rank.

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> Dance with Me!

Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: Self
Effect Tag: -
Charges the user's move gauge by 3. Raises the user's critical-hit rate by 1 stat rank.

<:CATEGORY_SPECIAL:967450752098390077> <:TYPE_GHOST:967452395850309692> <:CONDITION_SYNC:967453032939925614> Soulful Dancer Shadow Ball

Power: 250
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
No additional effect.

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[nocturne pawn]

she has ominous wind lol

not like you should use that regardless

[latent eagle]

I literally said SS brendan/fantina/hex????

[nocturne pawn]

helena

they mean helena richu

[latent eagle]

Yeah I forget her name and only know her as hex maniac lol

[zealous karma]

Oh

[zealous karma]

Hmm that’s odd I tried using Shauntal and Fantina this week and it worked fairly well for me I know you’re saying the aoe moves are hitting hard but I run max strength and offense params and they weren’t killing me

[rotund lagoon]

~~Shauntal gaming ~~

[latent eagle]

Hm my brenan isn't EXed so maybe that's why? (assuming your syncing with him first)

[rotund lagoon]

What move level is he?

[latent eagle]

5/5 mf kept showing up instead of anni may

[rotund lagoon]

Lol
Well SS Brendan would love the EX and it helps your team

[zealous karma]

You’ve had him for this long and still haven’t EX’d him

[rotund lagoon]

If you have the spare resources, you can EX him

[latent eagle]

I usually only EX for EBE/favorites

[zealous karma]

He’s one of the best special supoorts in the game I highly recommend it

I wouldn’t Ex for specific stages tho as even for EBEs there are usually videos out there or low investment clears

[rotund lagoon]

I understand you only EX’ing for favs, but Support EX is very beneficial.

[zealous karma]

Ye same

I haven’t EX’d a non fav in like 4 months lol

But mostly due to the lodge update

[latent eagle]

Not often, if you're not planning on pulling the needed unit for an EBE you often have to EX a unit to clear it

[latent eagle]

Oh I know supports are my main EX, I just literally not have gotten around to EXing SS Branden yet that's all

[zealous karma]

Not really at least from my experience

Aurochs doesn’t Ex any units at all and they clear most EBE’s and post clears for them without the festured

[latent eagle]

I don't know aurochs lmao, I usually follow the thegamingeevee for EBEs

[zealous karma]

Aurochs is one of the helpers and mods in the servers here are one of their threads #1011675077764456519

[tired sleet]

If its for events you’d want #1017360219849891890
(But they haven’t done one for this eb yet)

[zealous karma]

Ty

[latent eagle]

Thanks but back to CS lol, how do I beat Phoebe

[zealous karma]

J feel like if you want you can replace Helena with Shauntal and it should work I doubt Fantina + Brendan need supp Ex cause they were doing a lot of damage pre sync as well

[quaint solar]

Phoebe hits hard this week for some reason. So bring someone to combat that in my opinion.

[nocturne pawn]

she has furious brawn which does increase her dps but shes mostly single target so its more so about the tank’s defense

the real evil one this week is glacia

[zealous karma]

She only boosts her attack once and that’s with her entry iirc

[nocturne pawn]

yeah

so lucian should just easily shit all over her assuming you have a dps

[noble plaza]

Phoebe is decimating BP Morty

I'm trying Lucian, Giovanni, and BP Morty and it's round 4

[mellow linden]

Giovanni’s not getting any Sp. Atk. buffs in that team

[noble plaza]

.....
I don't know how I forgot about that

Maybe Roxanne would be better?

[mellow linden]

Can try her out and see what happens, yeah

[nocturne pawn]

yeah try roxanne

[noble plaza]

Should i sync with gio or morty first?

[nocturne pawn]

gio appreciates mega stats a lot

[noble plaza]

Makes sense.

I tried syncing with morty first and i was a smidge away from beating it presync

It's worth mentioning this is R4 btw.

[noble plaza]

Man, I keep getting close to beating the center but it always lives on a bit of health left

Wait... I just realized I never gridded Gio for shadow ball

[latent eagle]

What grid should shauntal have?

[zealous karma]

I run this

[weak sleet]

Can Genesect clear this week, but I don't have the bug zone setter?

[zealous karma]

yes easilynlel

does not hurt in trying

[rotund lagoon]

You can use a Defog unit to remove zone

[steel kelp]

1/5 SS hilbert clears easy

[rotund lagoon]

But there’s no Wise or Sentry entry or anything

[weak sleet]

Oh okay I can try it, if not I might end up off typing with the rats

[rotund lagoon]

I doubt you’ll need to, SS Hilbert is pretty strong

[latent eagle]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM2VctW5G/ WHAT AM I DOING WRONG THIS 👌 CLOSE TO POISON STALLING

[zealous karma]

Seeing it posted on tiktok is a first lol

[rotund lagoon]

I was about to say that lmao

[latent eagle]

I can’t use nitro and I’m not posting it to YT just for it to be deleted later (I have not uploaded to my YT in Y E A R S)

[rotund lagoon]

Anyway, you should use SS Brendan’s Luster Purge after TM

[zealous karma]

Firstly it seems like you have way to many attack params shauntal and fantina should not be chunked that hard against those 3, and you did not use shauntals tm for ramming spd

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah those attacks were rather high

[zealous karma]

you are also not hitting very hard and that seems off do you have any Hp or defense params?

[latent eagle]

It’s just the pre-sync parameter + this is my first time using shauntal idk how to use her

[rotund lagoon]

I think you may need to show us the exact params

[zealous karma]

ye

[rotund lagoon]

Btw if you don’t know how to use someone, read the kit, read the tiles you gridded.

[zealous karma]

Also make sure to actually read a units kit before slotting them into a team cause shauntals entire grid is very reliant on her tm in fact for her ramming spd and self burn so she can get her ramming spd and griddy activated/maxed

[latent eagle]

You told me to use shauntal so I’m using her 🤷‍♂️

[zealous karma]

I am very familliar with most units grids and kits so when I recommend them I assume others also have a basic understanding of the units kit

[rotund lagoon]

If you don’t read the kit, it makes things harder. It’s just better to be up to speed, ya know?

We have resources you can browse anytime

[zealous karma]

Ye it can make stuff harder not many units are very easily plug in and play unless your name is like Ash/SSTRed

[latent eagle]

Parameter

[zealous karma]

why did phoebe hit so hard than wth

[rotund lagoon]

Could just be RNG, wasn’t that Earthquake anyway?

[zealous karma]

it was but when I did cs that week she hit nowehre near as hard and I run max offense and strength

[rotund lagoon]

It’s already bad when sides use it, but mid having it is brutal

[zealous karma]

My shauntal and fantina arent 140 either theyre both 125

[rotund lagoon]

Anyway, it should not have to be done first try, just try again.

[zealous karma]

Oh right

[latent eagle]

I’m thinking it’s maybe it’s bc it’s R3 but the rundown on stages doesn’t say be wary of phoebe R3 sooo????

[zealous karma]

is this round one that boosts physical moves

[rotund lagoon]

Oh it’s R3……oh boy

[zealous karma]

Its def round 3 \

thats a massive boost for all physicalmoves

[rotund lagoon]

Her sync and Earthquake are physical

[zealous karma]

whaat other stage do you have phoebe has furious brawn and high offense so doing her now seems spookyu

[rotund lagoon]

Lol I was about to ask that

[latent eagle]

Yeah I was following this

[zealous karma]

Light mode jumpscare

if drake doesnt have sand up he is not the worst fight ever

[rotund lagoon]

What E4 do you have left other than Phoebe?

[latent eagle]

Drake

[zealous karma]

what team did you intend to use for drake

[latent eagle]

Uhhhh for ices types I usually just throw ghetsis/SS N/someone else at them

[zealous karma]

do you have any weather setting supports cause that team does seem good but drake has wise entry x2

[rotund lagoon]

SS N should work since his main move is physical

[latent eagle]

No weather supports (used SS Morty already) but both Candice’s have hail

[zealous karma]

neither candice is a great tank lel

[rotund lagoon]

Might wanna switch Ghetsis out then use a Support for first slot

Preferably a Atk/Df Support

[latent eagle]

Hop/SS N/SS silver maybe?

[grand steppe]

If you aren't changing the weather right away, just be aware, you'll have to use B Triple Axel on turn 1.

[rotund lagoon]

Uhhh pretty sure none of them can take away Sand

[grand steppe]

You don't have to change the weather, though for pre-sync params it can make an impact on the support's health.

[steel kelp]

simply nuke before they can take advantage

[latent eagle]

Neither Candice are good tanks and my only weather support has been used soooo

[steel kelp]

ss N can just freeze them dead

it doesnt have to be hail

[rotund lagoon]

You still switch Ghetsis out and use a setter for that slot, then a Support for first slot

[latent eagle]

(Ignore I’m still on my phoebe team lol) all my weather setters

[rotund lagoon]

Winona is not a bad idea

Reason I’m saying her over Blaine is Racing Rain

[latent eagle]

This work?

[steel kelp]

yes

[noble plaza]

I'm not able to presync Phoebe with Giovanni. I keep getting close and I can see that I need one more shadow ball to defeat her but I can't beat her presync. And it's round 4 so I don't know if I'd be able to post-sync either

[zealous karma]

whats the team?

[noble plaza]

BP Morty, Roxanne, and Giovanni. I tried SS Elesa for a bit but I had the same problem.

I can try replacing Morty with Lucian. Or just try a different DPS altogether. I've heard people using Shauntal or Fantina.

[toxic cobalt]

Try replacing BP Morty with a sleep Pokémon

You’ll get extra turns

[zealous karma]

I was going to say replace morty with Lucian lel

[toxic cobalt]

Shauntal and Fantina have more complicated buffs

Is Giovanni gridded for shadow ball?

[noble plaza]

yep

It took me a little too long to realize he wasn't but he is now

[noble plaza]

doesn't it have the same effect as Flinching? Or do they have lower lessen sleep passives?

[toxic cobalt]

It has the same effect but hits more often

Unless you have SS Lyra

[noble plaza]

ohhhh

[zealous karma]

Ye sleep is a lot more consistent than floinch lel I learned that way to late

[noble plaza]

that makes a lot of sense actually

[toxic cobalt]

(Also unless there is the additional effects field parameter which turns 60% flinch into 100%)

[noble plaza]

oooo

[dark osprey]

You've got Agatha there for sleep and damage and can replace Giovanni with Shauntal/Fantina to avoid removing the standard reduction parameter

Would need at least a +1 crit support for Shauntal I believe

[noble plaza]

yeah Agatha was the first thing I thought of for sleep

[dark osprey]

Just need to get the hang of the sleep thing

[noble plaza]

neither Shauntal or Fantina are gridded but I have a good amount of sync orbs so I'm not too worried

which one should I try? My Fantina is 2/5 fwiw

[dark osprey]

Oh. Then go Shauntal

[noble plaza]

[dark osprey]

Can grid Agatha as well if needed

[noble plaza]

she's already gridded

[dark osprey]

Oh nice

[noble plaza]

And Roxanne as support?

oh wait crit support

[toxic cobalt]

Why…not use the standard reduction parameter with Giovanni?

[latent eagle]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM2VwQa3c/

So I tried a slightly different team bc shauntal/fantina/SS brendan was taking up too much gauge and it’s still not working

(Also shauntal should be the third target but I forgot to change that oop)

[last palm]

Shauta suck tho

[latent eagle]

Ppl were telling me to use her soooo

[last palm]

No ex bredan?

And 12500 point?

[latent eagle]

Just haven’t gotten around to it lol but I probably will for this fight

[last palm]

Let me test

Btw what round is that

[latent eagle]

R4

[last palm]

I see

[latent eagle]

I was trying her at R3 for the whole day which was my mistake

[tired sleet]

She’s pretty solid
I’d rather use her than Fantina (assuming Fantina isn’t exed or i don’t have a great spdef debuffer) or Gio if I have a support ex

[last palm]

She has no sync ability

[tired sleet]

She has great dps

Her sync isn’t the greatest but under a support ex she does work

[last palm]

Kinda not that great to be honest

[tired sleet]

Great compared to fantina or other accessible ghosts

[last palm]

Without sp ex she cant finish it tho

[last palm]

Just change shautal to fantina and problem solve

[tired sleet]

They were already using Fantina

[last palm]

But they use Fantina and Shautal tho

[tired sleet]

Oh i’m dumb

[rotund lagoon]

Richu cleared 12.5k with SS Brendan, Fantina and Shauntal, I don’t see a problem

[tired sleet]

Aurochs did it with Shauntal, Cobalion, and Acerola

[last palm]

I dunno if that clear is ex dependent or his Brendan grid lv

Phoebe look strong i need to check her gimick again. Me just clear with Morty so dunno

No wonder she is physical nuker

[noble plaza]

HOLY FUCK I FINALLY BEAT PHOEBE.

My final team was Lodge Elesa, Shauntal and Agatha

[zealous karma]

their brendan is 3/5 mine is as well and shauntal was doing triple fantinas damage

[noble plaza]

which round param should I use for R5?

[last palm]

Phoebe need speed debuff?

[zealous karma]

depends if phys team> sync up4

[last palm]

oh then it seem possible tho

I mean possible for them

[zealous karma]

But shauntals damage is very good I believe she surpasses even Gio

[tired sleet]

Gio’s is a bit higher but that needs brainteaser

[noble plaza]

Adaman decimated Steven

[toxic cobalt]

Shauntal is just so good. Her grid made her amazing.

[zealous karma]

Tbh I don’t know how I beat Phoebe when I did

I see why this person is struggling

[tired sleet]

I did it with Lillietea/Shauntal/Fantina

Must have been the 5/5 sync nuke from Lillietea

[zealous karma]

@latent eagle apologies for the ping

I did sync with Brendan I forgot but syncing with shauntal/lucian would be fine too

[last palm]

Your bredan look bulky tho my bredan die in 2 shadow ball

[zealous karma]

He’s 150 ig

But I run max strength and offenses

So e

[tired sleet]

Max strength and offenses? Shouldn’t strength +7 or 8 be enough with max offence?

[zealous karma]

I don’t know but I don’t take powrr on hit

[last palm]

Round 2 no ex sync 4 star shautal

Kamikaze shauntal

Barely enough to finish it

i dunno this but max strength params is harder than max atk params. With max atk my bredan live super long max strength he die in 2 hit

[dark osprey]

i guess with Agatha syncing. just feel personally restricted with the support then to provide crit for Agatha

[dark osprey]

was that with reduce burn?

[last palm]

no reduce even amplify it because of round 2 gimmick

Without 2 extra sync node my shautal can't finish mid in time

[toxic cobalt]

Bugsy and Noland

[old orchid]

Beedril

you can use both together

[mellow linden]

Well ideally you run Shauntal with a Ghost Sync nuker. Her Shadow Ball damage is incredible, her Sync Move not so much (also it looks like you maybe don’t have Lessen Burn 9 on her?)

[dark osprey]

I guess with an EX support she still can handle the bulkiest ones

[white bramble]

Can I csmm 2.5 k phoebe with these units and what parameters

[mellow linden]

SSR Cynthia + a Ghost damage-dealer of your choice + an appropriate Support should win easily. Can use a 2.5k parameter option from the pins and adjust it accordingly for the team you use

[civic trellis]

Would fantina be better? Since sinnoh passive, and also she’s 3/5

[mellow linden]

If they wanna choose Fantina as their other Ghost damage-dealer she’d work for sure, but SSR Cynthia puts in more than enough work to make pretty much any option fine

[white bramble]

Yeah I will level up fantina

[tranquil bluff]

My double Villain CS teams
How it started How it ended

Really wanted to make Oleana work but couldn’t, no matter who I paired her with. Even doing post-sync parameters couldn’t get her to victory, up having to split up Archie and LySS to do it, and made Zekrom tank just so Red could beat Steven. This is why they need to make more Villain supports (for me, specifically)

[versed meteor]

Poison stall?

[tired sleet]

Is that a question?

[versed meteor]

No i mean they should use oleana in a poison stall team

[zealous karma]

What

The heck

[zealous karma]

That team isn’t great for oleana to begin with

[tranquil bluff]

ik, can't use Emma because no other villain tho

[white bramble]

Cynthia carried

Any recommendations for Steven

[nocturne pawn]

should be fine

actually nvm

your silver isnt pb’d so his buffs are reallly slow

use ss erika

[steel kelp]

It’s grass

[nocturne pawn]

yeah make an easy stage even easier

got a problem with that?

[steel kelp]

You can pretty much use anyone

That’s not even what I was saying but ok

[paper summit]

take a chill pill, my god

Brendan + SS Erika will wipe the floor

since you Morty isn't EX, and neither is Brendan, I'd say just stick to syncing with Erika

[nocturne pawn]

sorry ive been on edge for a while now

[white bramble]

Tempted to ex that morty

[zealous karma]

You don’t need Emma to make a good team for oleana that team just doesn’t have much synergy to begin with

[white bramble]

Brendan is dauntless forgot I gave him that skill

[zealous karma]

Brendan kinda. Needs dauntless

[steel kelp]

multiple lucky skills when

Or at least presets

[versed meteor]

Bullet seed gaming then

[nocturne pawn]

no…

[zealous karma]

That is how the gauntlet solo for latios is

[nocturne pawn]

is this latios

also i guarantee that also requires staggering procs

which is uhhhh

bruh moment

[mellow linden]

Brendan will benefit more from Dauntless in the vast majority of scenarios

Bullet Seed is a decidedly poor choice for damage output

[grand trout]

Is this the first hoenn this year?

[wicked pebble]

How does this look for this week?

[versed meteor]

Good luck on your slaughter i guess

[mellow linden]

I’d personally recommend changing up the Supports a bit

On some of those teams your damage-dealers are taking a bit longer than ideal to set up when you could save them some time just by swapping the Support

[wicked pebble]

Which?

[mellow linden]

Namely Teapot Lillie could go on the Ghetsis + Anniversary N team (lack of Sun may be an additional issue on the team, btw), Hilbert could go on the Irida + SS Silver team (would let Silver save B Triple Axel for after EX Support Sync as well), and a Support that can buff Attack + crit simultaneously might let SC Emmet save a little time on buffs

[wicked pebble]

Im... going for the stat drops on that team.

The n team, I m3an.

I never really needed sun for him.

[mellow linden]

It’s moreso just something to be aware of if you have trouble with Glacia

It could be fine, it could be a problem, hard to say but good to pay attention to

[wicked pebble]

Also, what about gauge management for SC Emmet?

[mellow linden]

Do you happen to have a 3/5 Sonia?

[wicked pebble]

Yeah.

[mellow linden]

She works fantastically with SC Emmet, gives Attack + Defense + crit buffs via Trainer Move, provides gauge accel, and can buff Speed

[wicked pebble]

What would go on the ghost team though?

[mellow linden]

Could do a Sp. Def. debuffer or if you happen to have SSR Cynthia she’d be fantastic for it as well

[wicked pebble]

I do.

[zealous karma]

I don’t think so

Oh it is

[mellow linden]

Just barely, yeah

[zealous karma]

Last hoenn l CS was in December

[grand trout]

Fine ss diantha it is

[sick inlet]

Regions cycle each month, and we currently have 6(?) regions.
So to reach Hoenn again it will take another 6 months :d

Hoenn
Sinnoh
Kalos
Kanto
Alola
Johto

[old orchid]

next is Kalos im pretty sure

[sick inlet]

Yeah 6

I am sorry

7

Unova

I forgot we got their league too

Are we only missing Galar League?

[old orchid]

yeah and Paldea, but it wont arrive soon

[sick inlet]

Paldea for anniversary-

[old orchid]

isnt that too soon

[sick inlet]

It is, but I feel like we're running out of Villain arcs and regions rn

[old orchid]

we still have PML 2

[swift swan]

I do hope we get Galar CS, though idk how they'll do it

Just take the final 4 gym leaders you fight before Leon I guess

[sick inlet]

Leon
And random 4 gym leaders

[versed meteor]

4 rotating people cuz marnie and hop aren't gym leaders but are in the champion series

[sweet ivy]

this was probably pre 2.5k right? how did i manage to clear it..

can i send image of my tracker here and ask for help on glacia

[old orchid]

go ahead

[sweet ivy]

wait i made some mistakes

supports and fire units

[old orchid]

Silver, Blaine and Roxanne/Skyla can oneshot the stage with -3 pre sync params

[sweet ivy]

noted, ill try it out

[old orchid]

as long as Silver has max speed, +4 atk minimum, Super Effective Up Next and sun, he should be able to clear

[swift swan]

Just take the more damage presync param and remove the bulk again if needed

[sweet ivy]

wait silver can get SEUN?

[old orchid]

yes, through Super Command 9

if you have his power boost

[swift swan]

Use his TM right before sync

[sweet ivy]

got it

this is the grid im using on him, do i remove ramming speed and get super command 9?

it worked, thanks guys

[old orchid]

[sweet ivy]

can i also ask for help on sidney and drake

[old orchid]

yes ofc

[sweet ivy]

ice and bug units

[old orchid]

i see you have Hala, so use him and Candice

which support did you use in the last round?

Skyla or Roxanne?

[sweet ivy]

roxxane

[old orchid]

so Skyla, Candice and Hala

[sweet ivy]

and for phoebe i used fallister but ig that doesnt matter

[old orchid]

can use the usual pre sync params, but time Hail well and do quad queue

or go for post sync

[sweet ivy]

ill try both, thank you

[old orchid]

Bug is a bit tricky, you can try using Burgh + Lucian + a special and crit support

or Aaron + Bugsy + Noland/Guzma

[sweet ivy]

do i need to EX guzma?

[sweet ivy]

presync worked, managed to quad queue twice in a row thanks again

[old orchid]

no need to, since Bugsy's sync is better than him

be sure to fully grid him, and raise him to 4* at minimum

[sweet ivy]

got it

wow bugsy is something

[sweet ivy]

cleared this week's cs, thanks guys!

[old orchid]

congrats

[grand trout]

I'm a bit annoyed

Sidney and Phoebe will be repeats for the next 2 weeks

[dark osprey]

Phoebe hits quite hard this time right

[old orchid]

If you dont debuff her attack yeah

[dark osprey]

Weirdly her shadow ball is kinda menacing too.

Was wondering to lower attack or special attack

[old orchid]

bring SS Korrina and steal her buffs so you dont need to worry about debuffing which

[dark osprey]

Lol yeah. Guess that's what Dena recommend

[grand trout]

I already used ss korrina couple of weeks ago

Wait it was this week lol

[rose prism]

What is up with this week? Having a super hard time to get my usual 12500pts

Glacia just kills you off with all her AoE

[old orchid]

either bring a defensive support or do stall

some units like boosted Silver can oneshot the stage on first sync

[trail smelt]

Yeah I’m losing my touch, bug weak Sidney for the first time ever gave me trouble

[topaz light]

Is there a premade list of what you should use for CSMM?

I've got to around 4.3k overall but struggling to get much higher..

[nocturne pawn]

channel pins have example parameters for 3 different play styles

[topaz light]

AHH thank you :) exactly the sort of thing im looking for

[versed meteor]

Alright i heard ss lysandre is good offtype what am i doing wrong

[old orchid]

you have no rain if you want to run Steam Eruption purely, you might also pick too many bulk params

his Heat Wave mode needs 3/5 to be good

[swift swan]

yeah, show your params

[versed meteor]

Used offtype parameters

Didn't use ontype because i wanted the bulk of the damage to come from steam eruption

[old orchid]

if you want to focus entirely on Heat Wave, use ontype params instead
and replace LDawn with another Fire dmg dealer

[dark osprey]

Parameters still do seem slightly off since the sides are also not taking much damage.

Maybe can bring someone to burn and sync on type.

Can check out Zinfogel showcase of 1/5 ss lysandre for reference.

Either ways SS Lysandre to offtype at 1/5 would need that B hydro pump to be amplified quite a bit

[old orchid]

or just use boosted Silver

[plush tangle]

Mine is 1/5 and does very good damage

but you really need the right parameters lol

[old orchid]

what team did you use

[plush tangle]

karen and sycamore 'twas for my theme

[old orchid]

[versed meteor]

I already cleared this week am just trying ss Lysandre out

[hushed sorrel]

Pretty sure its param issues the damage was so low lol

Your b hydro looked like it tickled

[mellow linden]

Definitely parameter issue + lack of Rain

[rose prism]

Any idea for Glacia 2,5k?

Team currently never clears it, it's very close tho

[swift swan]

powerboosted silver should clear just fine

what are your params?

[plush tangle]

why do you use hop

[swift swan]

defense debuffs i assume

[rose prism]

It's round 4

[rose prism]

Which parameter would allow that?

[rose prism]

Yes

[swift swan]

i'm asking what set of parameters you've been using rn

since you said "it's very close"

[rose prism]

Filled up Strength to allow status, weather and debuff.

[swift swan]

Full strength? I wouldn't do that considering Glacia spams too many AOEs

Try using presync parameters, linked on pins

More damage or more HP, whichever is comfortable

Replace some params as needed with Strength

[swift swan]

Besides she uses a lot of special moves and your team has no way to buff their special defense

Silver should destroy by second sync

[rose prism]

Cannot reach second sync, 1 move away

[swift swan]

do you know how to quadqueue?

+quadqueue

[frozen depot]

Watch this footage (17s clip) : https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3Nr07pJo2Noud7AwWW4yWQQIDbYsQTJQ
In this clip, when Flannery is about to Sync the opponent Aaron has nothing queue'd in the list. This leaves us with a very short window after the sync to queue a fourth move. Note in the clip how Flannery queues her TM before the opponent's High Horsepower. Look out for the orange "spiral aura" around your syncing Pokemon after the sync, the correct timing to queue is when that spiral is fading away, but you can also resort to button mashing!

The benefits of quad-queue is that it allows us to get two sync moves before the opponent's first one which is a game-changer if you're not using sync acceleration. A Sync Move does not count toward the Sync Countdown which is why without Quad-Queue or Sync Accel your second cycle usually leaves you at 1 countdown left when the opponent is using their Sync.

Note that Quad-Queue cannot be done under certain conditions that will make the opponent queue as your sync is executing :

• If a field effect (such as weather, zone, move gauge acceleration etc) expires on the turn you're syncing. Usually happens if a field effect was cast on entry or first turn.
• If an allied passive triggers an effect right after an enemy action completes (such as First Aid, Team Shout, Freevenge etc...)

[rose prism]

Yes, but sometimes I cannot do it

[swift swan]

give that a try

[rose prism]

Field effect expires

[swift swan]

alternatively you can try bringing a sync acceleration unit instead of Hop

[swift swan]

which field effect

sunny day?

[mellow linden]

Field effect expiring can be remedied be changing when you set the effect

[swift swan]

so if you're bringing ss acerola and chop, don't set their respective weather/zone first turn

in this case, don't click sunny day and Hop's TM on your first 3 moves

[rose prism]

Still failed

[quaint solar]

What failed 🤔. Fire weak Glacia should not be a problem this week

[swift swan]

Did you manage to quadqueue and get 2 syncs this time?

[rose prism]

Yep

Had like 3k life left

[nocturne pawn]

what is your silver’s grid

[swift swan]

And you were using presync parameters right?

[rose prism]

Discord

[nocturne pawn]

uhh i dont see super prep

so get that and you should win

use this

[rose prism]

Use super prep before sync?

[nocturne pawn]

yes

[rose prism]

Doesn't work

This AoE is just so RNG heavy, some runs hop dies, some runs sacred fire misses, I just gonna drop 500pts

Thanks for the help

[old orchid]

with sun, seun,max speed,4 atk Silver should oneshot the stage with -3 sync cd param

[white bramble]

I need help

[keen jasper]

With what?

[old orchid]

+helpfaq

[frozen depot]

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[white bramble]

Nvm I was going to ask help for Steven but just finished with this team

Lel

[versed meteor]

Used their own psychic terrain against them

[white bramble]

I stalled his claydol every time he never used that

[thin pecan]

I can’t beat drake

Any tips on who to use for him

Also can’t beat the ghost type one either

[tired sleet]

Can you share your ice and ghost type rosters?

[thin pecan]

Literally impossible with Leon

[old orchid]

what params are you using?

[thin pecan]

Post sync

[old orchid]

what round are you on?

[thin pecan]

1

Which order should we be doing this week on

I tried ghost first and she just rolled that team

Like they just did absolutely no damage

[old orchid]

just avoid Sidney and Drake on R3

use the params to benefit your teams

[thin pecan]

Right but they’re not working

[old orchid]

switch to pre sync

and on Phoebe use a defensive support

[mellow linden]

Need better gauge Support than Rosa for SSR Cynthia + A. Lillie

Can do Irida + Hala or SS Silver instead of Holiday Leon + Candice against Drake

[thin pecan]

I mean the issue isn’t even gauge

It’s literally just dying and doing no damage

Like ghost is impossible

[mellow linden]

Sounds like a parameter issue if the problem is damage

[thin pecan]

My tank is just dying and we aren’t doing enough damage to mid before sync using pre sync

[mellow linden]

Which of the “Damage Reduction 8” parameters do you have turned on, if any?

[thin pecan]

I’m using pre sync right now

I tried using post sync

Also didn’t work

[mellow linden]

Ok, but specifically the Damage Reduction 8 parameters is what I’m asking about

Because SSR Cynthia + any Ghost damage-dealer should be able to clear easily, so the issue must be parameter- or gameplay-related

And having Damage Reduction 8 parameters turned on that shouldn’t be on would definitely cause that

[thin pecan]

I don’t know what that means

I’m just using the pinned ones

For those two

[mellow linden]

Blindly running pinned parameters without knowing what they do is bad practice, you’re supposed to use them as a base and alter them as needed for your team.

I am specifically asking about the parameters “Physical Damage Reduction 8” (100 points), “Special Damage Reduction 8” (100 points), and “Standard Damage Reduction 8” (300 points). Which of those parameters, if any, do you have turned on?

[thin pecan]

Special and standard

[mellow linden]

Special is the problem

[thin pecan]

Oh I’m on round 3

Using Morty

[mellow linden]

That’s reducing SSR Cynthia’s Shadow Ball damage and A. Lillie’s damage entirely by 80%

With SSR Cynthia + a Ghost damage-dealer, assuming you’re on-typing you may want to consider only running Standard Damage Reduction 8 and using other parameters to make up for the 100 points you’d miss by not running Physical Damage Reduction 8 or Special Damage Reduction 8

[old orchid]

you can pick Physical Dmg Reduc because Anni Lillie's dmg is enough to one shot sides with zone (and seun)

[mellow linden]

Yeah, that’s also a valid option as long as you’re not relying on SSR Cynthia’s Shadow Force or Sync Move

[quaint solar]

IF your issue is dieing, then use a Evasion Sync pair like i did For Round 1. It is RNG based, so expect allot of resets.

[mellow linden]

The issue was parameters

Or at least was 70% or more parameters since I have no clue whether there’s a gameplay issue or not given the information available

[cold kestrel]

Can anyone help me make a team for the champion stadium? Not master mode so I’m just trying to get through it. Still pretty new so don’t have many units

[nocturne pawn]

you can save it as one image instead of screenshotting it fyi

[hushed sorrel]

It’s easier if you pick the striker first for each boss and the team here help you build the support/tech.

[rotund lagoon]

You will need 5 teams, since you cannot use the same team in more than one match.

Do you know about basic teambuilding at all?

[hushed sorrel]

To get master mode you will need to complete with all 18 typing as well

[toxic cobalt]

Looks like you clearly have grass and ice locekd down, fire will be easy too. Ghost you can just use Giovanni, the only one that might give you trouble is bug-weak. For that, I would suggest gridding Bugsy if you can

[cold kestrel]

The 3 star? If so I have enough to get him to four stars

[toxic cobalt]

That's less important than

(But still a good idea!)

[cold kestrel]

These are the teams I ended up coming up with

I’ll of course level everyone up

[hushed sorrel]

That's a good start have you done any of the medals or starting fresh? Ie still need to complete 18 types

[cold kestrel]

Starting fresh. Tried getting in supports which would help along with getting different types

[toxic cobalt]

You can switch Rosa out for Roxanne

[hushed sorrel]

OK so one thing you want to focus on is get more typing in there

[toxic cobalt]

And selene out for literally anyone

[hushed sorrel]

Skyla haven't been used

[toxic cobalt]

Actually there are a few type substitutions you can make here and there

[cold kestrel]

Alright

[toxic cobalt]

Can replace Cheren

[hushed sorrel]

Crash is good for water it's a flincher but you can also try fit in starmie

For normal eevee is actually decent as tank better than cheren for sure haha

[toxic cobalt]

I'd use Skyla there for speed, for normal I'd get rid of Melony and Candice

[tired sleet]

If they don’t have eevee, Cheryl/Blissey is a good offtank (albeit with poor gauge without grid)

[hushed sorrel]

Poison you can use Janine for debuff or Lucy is decent for poisoning

[cold kestrel]

The leaf and eevee? I have them 2/5

[hushed sorrel]

They have eevee

Yes that one

I think you can get about 13 14 typing this week and next week is a breeze

[cold kestrel]

Who should I change to include eevee?

[hushed sorrel]

Swap melony for another typing

And I think you are good to go

[toxic cobalt]

Replace Melony BpCandice and Aaron

[hushed sorrel]

Get dragon or electric in there. You have like 12

If you can squeeze both jts easier next week

[cold kestrel]

Don’t have a different typing for another support to swap out aaron, should I get a tech in there?

[cold kestrel]

Yeah I got drake in for bp candice

[hushed sorrel]

Starmie is tanky enough adaman will just basically solo lol

So you can squeeze a type in there

[cold kestrel]

Alright, yeah I’ll find an electric then

[toxic cobalt]

There’s always Potionchu

[cold kestrel]

True

?

[toxic cobalt]

Should be fine

[hushed sorrel]

Yea solid I like drake good for gauge, but I think better as zinnia irida you will get more damage output

Your zinnia looks boosted

[cold kestrel]

Yeah I could use her instead

What level should i shoot for everyone

[hushed sorrel]

Booom good luck

120

[cold kestrel]

Alright cool, thanks

[cold kestrel]

Should i replace torchic and clefairy? Was doing sync grids and saw that lillie has one that protects her from damage in a hailstorm

[toxic cobalt]

Damage from hailstorm rpetty irrelevant

[rotund lagoon]

SS Red is 2/5+, right?

Oh and don’t forget Irida’s passive protects everyone on her team from hail damage anyway

[cold kestrel]

Oh wait I misunderstood it my bad. Thought it said something about protecting from all damage when she was in a hailstorm 💀

[cold kestrel]

He’s only at 1/5 currently

[rotund lagoon]

Then just a Sp Atk buffer and a sun setter

[toxic cobalt]

Doesn't even need a sun setter

[rotund lagoon]

Oh duh cause Hard mode, right?

[cold kestrel]

I ran out of sync orbs. Should I just do the teams which have their sync grinds or should I try to do it without it?

[toxic cobalt]

Only really need to grid the main strikers for each team

[rotund lagoon]

Depends on who tho

Cause for example, Red is 1/5

[toxic cobalt]

Don't even need to grid REd

Probably don't need Irida or Adaman grids too

Bugsy probably only needed grid

[cold kestrel]

I could also just get him to 4 stars if that works too

[toxic cobalt]

It doe snot

As I said before

[rotund lagoon]

Rarity does not matter that much

[cold kestrel]

Ok alright, well I’ll try to take on glacia right now since everyone on that team at least has some sync orbs into them

Do these really matter much in hard mode?

[nocturne pawn]

they are useful in any difficulty

[rotund lagoon]

Yes, especially since we’re at a harder CS

[nocturne pawn]

try to take advantage of them

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah use them based on your team comps

[toxic cobalt]

And watch out for them where relevant!

[cold kestrel]

I’ll probably use this team instead and use it first. I’ll just spam noble roar with ghetsis

[nocturne pawn]

irida can probably carry it herself

better to use someone of a different type to make it easier to unlock master mode

[cold kestrel]

Alright

None of my other teams have stat lowering attacks so I’ll probably just this team first first anyways

[cold kestrel]

Torchic doesn’t really rank earthquakes well. I might try eevee instead. Irida won’t get sp atk boost but she already boost hers by 4 ranks already. And if I do complete it with eevee that’ll be an extra piece aswell

[swift swan]

eevee buffs Ghetsis very slowly

earthquake is painful, if you're doing presync that's something you might have to reset for if drake spams it

[cold kestrel]

I was trying out zinnia originally to see if I can get through it without stat debuffs

Eevee tanks well, drake is just so annoying in general

[swift swan]

eevee tanks well, but her offensive buffing is slow and your ghetsis will need three turns to max crit (since I don't think you have his powerboost yet)

[cold kestrel]

Should I try to use zinnia a few times again? She had a problem with earthquakes aswell but I have potions now

I’ll probably also wait until reset so I can get potion refresh

[toxic cobalt]

Zinnia? I wouldn't.

Don't think you need a potion refresh on these stages

[cold kestrel]

Oh shit I tried my team for the ice lady and I take take three icy winds then fucking die

[swift swan]

is this hard mode or master mode?

[old orchid]

Glacia is cruel in every week

[toxic cobalt]

Should be fine with sufficient triple queueing

[hushed sorrel]

Pretty sure it’s hard mode

[grand trout]

Aside from ss brendan, which mega support can work with ss wally?

[old orchid]

Holiday Jasmine

[dark osprey]

Maybe even SSBlue

And if desperate, Glacia

[versed meteor]

You guys were right this is a lot easier to run than my other sc rosa strat, even think i wasted a 6ex material on brendan totally didn't need it

[rose ermine]

Do you guys think I'm good for tomorrow

[old orchid]

yes

[manic kiln]

it's overkill tbh

[nocturne pawn]

oh i just realized

i can finally stop off typing ground

cuz rose has stomping tantrum

no wait

high horsepower

[hushed sorrel]

So good to let Charizard to come out and play lol https://youtu.be/xeKFlFiEhnk

[tame gust]

Hmm.. I may have made an error in my enemy selection for the current week. That and I wish there was such a thing as two OG Hilbert. On Glacia R3 MM for on type Pre sync though I’m thinking I should tune down to post sync because my current ploy is not going as I’d wish.

I tried to go at her with Lodge Irida, Gordie, and Hop but that didn’t pan out well since I didn’t have a means to mitigate Sp.Atk damage or bolster Sp.def. Gordie’s there for fire rebuff and to set sun, Lrida is the main attacker and hop’s the tank/buffer.

Think I should abandon Lrida and instead use Non EX/PB Silver?

I was wanting to do the funny Flare Blitz but all these AoE loving enemies are really grinding my gears.

[toxic cobalt]

Aoe is tough. No alternatives to Hop?

[tame gust]

If Sonia would stop avoiding me for the 3/5 then that’d be an option but RNG hates me.

Let’s see.. I’d have to browse around for various support options. I probably do have some alternatives. Main thing I should be looking for is an attack+crit booster, yeah? That or a party member with Sharp Entry 1 for the team so Irida can self boost to +3 with her TM.

[keen jasper]

Sounds like me with Hilbert

[tame gust]

I was thinking I could use Mayziken as the attacker, but she’s 2/5 and I’ve only got one candy atm.

[keen jasper]

[tame gust]

I’ll trade you my 7/5 Hilbert for a 3/5 Sonia.

[keen jasper]

Deal

[tame gust]

It’s really the AoE spam that’s annoying because one blizzard will murder, and an icy wind would cripple.. Granted it’s not near as much of a train wreck as what Drake was. So many EQ or Brutal Swing then Chomp uses EQ..

[nocturne pawn]

drake aoe wasnt bad lol

glacia’s is actual hell unless you replace hail

[tame gust]

I do have 3/5 Lyra, but I feel she’d probably be better off with an OG Silver related comp

[keen jasper]

Glacia and Drake require you to change weather

[nocturne pawn]

cant rely on evasion hax either cuz its +2 acc

[nocturne pawn]

i mean you can brute force its just gonna be hella annoying and not recommended

[versed meteor]

Drake aoe def had higher crit chance

[versed meteor]

Poison stall

[nocturne pawn]

…they’re literally the same but ok

neither buffs crit until post sync and even then blizzard has higher bp

and she has invigorating hail 5 vs sand superiority 3

[tame gust]

I have 3/5 Elio, but the problem there is his Sing conflicts with Irida’s burns so that’d reduce her sync output

[mellow linden]

That’s just confirmation bias

[nocturne pawn]

wait what

when did irida burn

[tame gust]

Lodge

[keen jasper]

More damage vs. Lesser damage but also take lesser damage

[nocturne pawn]

do you not have a better option

[nocturne pawn]

sand superiority isnt actually damage reduction

its just removing sand chip + surging sand 3 as one passive

i learnt that the hard way

[tame gust]

I mean Silver does exist on my roster. I was just wanting to take advantage of r3’s effect

[nocturne pawn]

r3 you can poison stall

[tame gust]

Self imposed rule of this week is to not poison stall since I’ve used it at least once for every CS the past month.

[mellow linden]

You don’t need to force your team to utilize the round parameter

[nocturne pawn]

if you have pb silver he destroys the stage already

[toxic cobalt]

Physical Silver

[tame gust]

If you’d read up I said I don’t have boosted or EX silver because DeNA refuses to rerun Johto VA. =\

[toxic cobalt]

And?

[tame gust]

Eh, Nevermind. Doesn’t matter.

Thanks all for the helpful comments

[nocturne pawn]

he still has inertia and solar flare 5

he just wont ko the stage first sync

so supp ex using hilbert and you’ll be fine

[tame gust]

Hilbert was already used on Drake

[nocturne pawn]

well then

thats complicating things

[tame gust]

Lyra/Silver/Gordie comp is having issues too but that’s more stemming from Glacia’s team having a hard on for spamming AoE. One blizzard even from a side with sun up chunks Silver to almost nothing and Gordie just flat out bites it. Been fifteen resets so far with nothing but enemy AoE spam..

[swift swan]

Lyra is quite frail, yeah

and sadly you just have to grit your teeth and reset if Glacia spams too many AOEs

[tame gust]

She and Drake belong in the 9th circle of Hell for all these AoE lmao

[swift swan]

I'd use Blaine instead of Gordie though. He doesn't need a max move for sun. Max move can actually disrupt your queueing

[nocturne pawn]

well she has light screen

[tame gust]

Yeah I don’t think Fire rebuff is worth the loss of queues now that I think of it

[swift swan]

it helps, true

but after a while if the blizzard spam keeps up you'll still crumble

[nocturne pawn]

i was running ss brendan on glacia

with like

+4 atk and +10 str

[swift swan]

sadly it's just Glacia being ruthless and there's not much you can do except reset a lot

[nocturne pawn]

blizzard almost killed ghetsis and anni n with +4 def

and like -2 attack

[nocturne pawn]

theres always that one e4 whos just routinely ass and in hoenn’s case thats definitely glacia

[tame gust]

Hmm, yeah come to think of it Blaine would work out better. Shame he can’t be EX’d for that yummy boost to damage.

[nocturne pawn]

blaine contributes like 0 damage to a team whenever i use him

[tame gust]

I’d still like to maintain Lyra on the team, because giving her first sync does refresh the sun and gives the +2 sync boost so I’ll try this out now

If that fails I’ll have to switch up support options, probably double back to Hop or possible BP Janine. Shame her TM doesn’t boost Atk+Speed.

My silver has dauntless as his LS because I didn’t have weather cookies and didn’t farm previous LG like I should’ve

[toxic cobalt]

This is why you neve ruse blaine

[keen jasper]

Imagine using Blaine

[tame gust]

Another loss. I probably will just toxic stall this absolutely toxic hag.

[versed meteor]

Well if all fails toxic stall

Btw oleana can poison stall Drake

[tame gust]

Bold of you to assume I have Oleana.

Also Glacia has officially said “eff you” to toxic stall lmao

She heals more than the DoTs reduce

[mellow linden]

What team were you trying for Poison stall against her?

[tame gust]

OG Janine, Lucy, BP Morty. Should probably consider a sync healer rather than defense booster maybe

[mellow linden]

Because the thing about Poison stall is that Bad Poison ramps up its damage every time it’s triggered, so it should eventually be doing stupid amounts of damage

[mellow linden]

Can grid BP Morty for Synchro Healing

[tame gust]

Omg you’re right. I didn’t have that tile up. Lmao dumb move on me.

[mellow linden]

It happens, no worries

I’ve forgotten to equip the right grid dozens of times at this point

[cold kestrel]

Finally beat drake. Had to use two types instead of three since zinnia wasn’t really doing anything. Got ice and fire done

[mellow linden]

9-12 types for your 1st week doing type medal is fine, going for 15 week 1 is IMO a bit overkill

[cold kestrel]

I think I underestimated glacia again. I think I might find someone who raises spdef so the blizzards don’t hit as hard

[tame gust]

Ffs, I hate it when enemies have poison resist 9. Glacia seems custom built to punish stall strats.

Got her down to the yellow before she managed to finish me off with triple blizzard

[swift swan]

Stalling glacia works fine, but the Blizzard still hurts, yeah

Is Leaf available?

[tame gust]

Which one? SS or Eevee?

[swift swan]

Regular

[tame gust]

Yeah she’s there

[swift swan]

And see if you can have recuperation gridded

Alongside her potion tiles ofc

Her def buffs will be slower than morty though

But do try with bp morty first and see if synchro healing fixes your issue

[tame gust]

I did and it didn’t work

Then again I didn’t grind mpr on potions for Morty

[swift swan]

Well you should, that's the basis for stalling

What round are you fighting Glacia btw

[tame gust]

3

[swift swan]

[tame gust]

I tried the syncro heal grid listed for Morty but let’s see if Eevee is the winning ticket

[swift swan]

Don't forget to grab all her potion tiles and recuperation

[tame gust]

Yeah got them on her now.

Oh, okay I found problem #2 I never finished filling Janine’s grid lmfao

Not much of a difference but we’ll see

[swift swan]

Janine barely needs her grid for stalling. She was a very good staller even before she had a grid at all

[tame gust]

Yeah. I was just thinking the extra tiles would help her survive. Update: glacia still winning.

Blizzards hurt like hell after she gets to like sync 3 or 4. Chunks about 450-ish off Eevee. Was pretty much in a war of attrition but glacia’s regen just seems to overpower stalling

Was pretty much spamming tackle to try to stall out for healing after potions ran dry but nope. Her blizzards just hit too hard

[mellow linden]

What parameters are you running, perchance?

Because 450 sounds high for +4 to +6 Sp. Def. on Leaf

There’s the possibility of leaving on Power on Hit or something by mistake

[tame gust]

General 2.5k toxic stall. And nope checking my Parameters right now. Nothing but HP/Defense boosts outside of the damage reduction ones.

[mellow linden]

Weird

[tame gust]

Granted this is when Blizzard is hitting leaf without any other party members

And yes, this is -6 Glacia vs +6 Eevee. No crit.

Her sync buff was at I think 3 or 4 at the time? Her sync was doing about 220-ish while blizzard chunked for 450~500.

[mellow linden]

…Do you maybe have Supports take x3 damage on by accident?

[tame gust]

Nope looking at my parameters right now.

[mellow linden]

Huh, idk then

[tame gust]

Glacia being a toxic old bag.

I’m bout tempted to reset and assault her with Carnie.

Oh wait, can’t reset because I didn’t clear yet lmao

[wicked ibex]

Isn't Lyra/Silver/Blaine a good team comp for Glacia R3? I did it without boosted Silver or EXed support. Lyra is quite frail, but not in Sun, plus Light Screen and Glacia team is full of special attackers. I remember my team was all 120 but could withstand at least 3~4 Blizzards

I think the only problem is putting the sunny day and light screen at the end of the first cycle and in the second cycle to avoid interrupting quadqueue, God bless Glacia doesn't use Blizzard on her first turn

[lavish flare]

Need parameters for doing off type cs ?

[mellow linden]

There are some example parameters in the pins that you can adjust for your team as needed

[tame gust]

I might need to adjust some 2.5k on type because Glacia was blasting apart the Lyra/Silver/Blaine comp.

[old orchid]

Is your Silver boosted?

[tame gust]

No.

[old orchid]

[tame gust]

Blame DeNA and their bright idea to rerun Hoenn VA

[mellow linden]

Do you have Sycamore or Roxanne EX, perchance?

[tame gust]

Sycamore is there, Roxanne is at 5-star but I don’t have the PUs to bring her to ex able.

Sycamore is also EX/PB

[mellow linden]

Then could try Sycamore + Cyrus + May (if you have her, Winona if you don’t) off-type, maybe?

[tame gust]

I suppose that’s an option.

[wicked ibex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=547zOLk6ePc&t=427s Also, Auroch did poison stall Glacia with his Sycamore before

[tame gust]

How does one poison stall with sycamore on 2.5k… Horn Leech doesn’t drain near enough to combat glacia hits

[mellow linden]

He has Recuperation in grid, I assume that has something to do with it

Can always watch the vid and see, I guess

[wicked ibex]

He removed all parameters related to def or reduced dmg, replacing them with STR instead, keeping HP parameters

[tame gust]

Oh.. lol didn’t know that was a banned word

But yeah guess I’m OTing.

Sycamore and Cyrus are both PB’d/EX and May’s got 5/5 EX. Yeah, glacia about to get washed away

Any Glacia AoE will one shot May and Cyrus orz..

The x3 damage to tech and strikers is so frustrating to play around. Might just tune down to 2k on glacia because this crap is absurd.

[tame gust]

Glacia dead. I tuned down to 2k on type pre sync and went at her with MayZiken, Lodge Irida and Bulurola. Overkill sure. But I was done with her nonsense

[mellow linden]

That probably could’ve 2.5k on-typed, didn’t realize you had SS Acerola

Apologies for my goof in that regard

[tame gust]

Ah nah it’s fine. I didn’t mention her because I was going to save her for Steven. But glacia decides that peace wasn’t an option.

[mellow linden]

Insert Snom “Peace was never an option” meme