Champion Stadium

[full mesa]

Double base physical def

[last dew]

i guess i will use karen now

[full mesa]

Yes. Keep CCalem to disturb ghost zone.

Or use CCalem/CCerena/Sidney if you can.

-2 rebuff will counter sentry entry x2.

[fiery canopy]

got 11 types this week, if im lucky next week ill have the full medal complete!

[river pagoda]

I don't do enuff DMG to presync 😭 idk what I'm doing wrong

[full mesa]

Not luck. Skills. 8 types are ok. Next week is kinda easier.

[full mesa]

Parameters?

[fiery canopy]

need fire, water, electric, grass, poison, rock, and ground
got most of the niche types out of the way!

[river pagoda]

Uhh lemme take a pic

[zealous karma]

I meant kind lel things like this keep happening lel

[river pagoda]

Idk y hoenn is so much harder

12.5k last week + special cs was so much easier

[full mesa]

We can easily fit those.

[zealous karma]

They typically have higher Hp

[river pagoda]

Here

[fiery canopy]

yup yup!

[toxic cobalt]

DON'T USE MAX SYN COUNTDOWN

[full mesa]

And hit way harder with ridiculous passive shenanigans. Hoenn isn't as hard as Sinnoh. It's more frustrating and strategy specific.

[toxic cobalt]

And don't raise defence!

[river pagoda]

Otherwise they one shot bea even with full buffs 😭

[toxic cobalt]

Or HP

[full mesa]

Good. Delete them and copy the ones from pins.

[toxic cobalt]

How are they hitting Bea she isn't tanking

[river pagoda]

Sync

Even before sync countdown param

[keen jasper]

Whenever I see half sync parameter, I always put in both -1 and -2 sync as my free parameters and use my strongest striker to finish it off

[river pagoda]

Theyreach it

I don't do enuff dmg

[formal vigil]

Which round is this

[toxic cobalt]

^

[river pagoda]

Was just testing r1

[full mesa]

Bea can survive until your second sync with +6 def/Spdef from BPMorty. You just have to quadqueue.

[toxic cobalt]

Well yes because you've given them super defence and HP!

[river pagoda]

[toxic cobalt]

Use the pinned parameters

Standard damage reduction is free points

[full mesa]

I don't bother. I know it's a free win since I can sync with support and then sync twice with striker before their second sync.

[undone ether]

GOT HIM

now just to kill the sides lmao

(R2 Sidney with Ho-oh back up :|)

[full mesa]

Tell me your plan

[undone ether]

psot sync,debuffing them like mad

[full mesa]

Also, how did you guys do Grandpa?

[undone ether]

grandpa?

not yet.

[formal vigil]

Drake?

[full mesa]

I fought him R2 with Dawn/Kiawe/Candice.

Need some potion mpr.

Or freeze hacks.

[undone ether]

R1 Phoebe - 1/5 SC Zinnia, 1/5 EX NC Marnie, 3/5 EX NC Calem - Post Sync.
R2 Sidney - 3/5 EX Lodge Serena, 5/5 EX Blue, 3/5 EX SS Morty. Post Sync.
R3 Glacia - 3/5 EX Aura Cynthia, 1/5 (I should EX him) NC Hop and 2/5 EX SS May - Working on that now.
R4 Drake - Debuffer Mode Ghetsis, Irida 3/5 and Variety Lorelei

[full mesa]

You're a post sync player.

[undone ether]

yes

i tried to presync but eh can't do it with liza

she needs 3/5

I could also do Lysandre

[full mesa]

Yeah. She does.

[undone ether]

but those Dark Pulse are nasty as fuck

[full mesa]

But not enough candies

[verbal karma]

breathes in
...okay, so...R1 Sydney! Pretty straightforward, right?
Just have an EX support with Adrenaline and whoever is your best flying-type attacker/damage dealer/nuker/whatever in your team, and you're Gucci, right?

[formal vigil]

I thought liza is op from base

[full mesa]

No. She doesn't have base multipliers.

Only free move 9 after status moves.

[verbal karma]

...well, I tried with Holiday Skyla, and it just wouldn't work...then I tried with Anni Skyla and got better results...but it still wasn't enough...

[formal vigil]

Tried them together?

[undone ether]

i just hate it that he stacks evasion on top of his other stuff.

[full mesa]

She gets tough cookie and towering force through grid. All she needs is a support to help her reach +3 crit.

[verbal karma]

No, separately

[undone ether]

i'm also very pissed as well, so i could probably do SS Leaf + Ball Guy and Poison him a lot :>

[verbal karma]

His evasion is the least of my problems tbh

[formal vigil]

Well them together see how it goes

[undone ether]

yeah he hits hard

[full mesa]

Try anni Skyla and Kahili if she is 5*.

[verbal karma]

Oh!

[toxic cobalt]

What teams did you use and which parameters?

[undone ether]

SS Leaf + Ball Guy drops his stats

[full mesa]

Under zone your second sync should kill

[verbal karma]

Kahili IS 5*!

[undone ether]

aight

i'm doing my Glacia run

[verbal karma]

...wait, Kahili syncs then?

[formal vigil]

Yes

[verbal karma]

Okay, got it

[full mesa]

Both sync and both under zone.

[grand trout]

I did phoebe with funny dark void denial

[full mesa]

Noice.

[undone ether]

hum okay

[sand karma]

I love them
Best Bois
After some struggling for quadqueue they kod Glacia before she could sync on half countdown

[river pagoda]

Ok I finally presync cleared glacia

Had to use sc Steven instead of colress/kukui tho

What order did y'all go in?

[swift swan]

[river pagoda]

Aii ty

[grand trout]

Who's your nuke, wally or chop

[austere quest]

I saw Water Weak and I clicked B Hydro Pump

[sand karma]

Wally
Chop is 1/5

[grand trout]

Sidney (because i thought his attacks were physical), drake, glacia (so that i could mega korrina faster), phoebe

[sand karma]

Korrina user

[austere quest]

Drake-Phoebe-Glacia-Sidney

[swift swan]

Korrina user

[grand trout]

I exed her so might as well showcase her, y'know

[fringe valve]

I think if we're being resourceful, marnie under zone is kinda overkill. He'd probably be better off using calem on a team that needs the help.

[undone ether]

Neat

[grand trout]

A fellow korrina user

[undone ether]

thank god they dont crit as much

wat

that's Aura Cynthia @grand trout

[grand trout]

Oh lol

[fringe valve]

Fellow ss hop enjoyer

[zealous karma]

Hop hasn’t gotten an SS yet

[fringe valve]

*neo champion

[undone ether]

he's still at 1/5

and no EX either

[fringe valve]

So is mine

[undone ether]

haah

[grand trout]

R1 is useless this week, no?

3 out of the rounds do sexual

Special*

[fringe valve]

I don't see myself candying him since his base kit is already so good

[grand trout]

And the one that does physical is better off with r2

[zealous karma]

Drake is physical

[grand trout]

Yeah he's better off with r2

[zealous karma]

And I thought sidney was too?

[grand trout]

No he's special lol

Or maybe mixed, but he uses special attacks with me

[fringe valve]

Is pheobe special or physical

[grand trout]

Special def

[zealous karma]

She’s mix

[grand trout]

Which is weird when using banette

[zealous karma]

She has shadow sneak and a physical sync

[fringe valve]

Probably pheobe the best option then

[zealous karma]

But has more overall special moves

[grand trout]

Dammit i should have made her r1

[fringe valve]

Cus drake you need physicals for

[zealous karma]

I used HoliLeon for Sidney so I never got to see his moves and I saw too many of drakes moves cause SCDiantha/SCSonia kept getting crit

Morty getting flinch locked let’s go

[grand trout]

Can hleon hail?

[zealous karma]

No

[grand trout]

Who's your weather pich

[zealous karma]

Irida

[grand trout]

Cries in lack of irida

[zealous karma]

This week was so mean to me outside of Sidney and Steven

[grand trout]

In hindsight , it was a good thing

Summer steven can't kill drake so i had to use candice

[zealous karma]

Im never doing 15K off type against hoenn ever again

< lies

[swift swan]

Yes you are, I know you are

[zealous karma]

[swift swan]

Richu will do the most annoying challenges and won't stop ever

[zealous karma]

True

Me relying on glacia to miss (she has piercing gaze)

[undone ether]

There we go

R4 Drake is down

[swift swan]

If you can do the CS battle factory with shitty supports then you can 15k offtype Hoenn!

[zealous karma]

True

[undone ether]

Ch - is going to be SS Blue, Elio and NC Serena :>

its time... to nuke.

[zealous karma]

To this day my most insane clear and they weren’t that bad

[undone ether]

Welp letsee if i can do it hehe

[swift swan]

they weren't that bad
Richu stop lying gaslighting yourself

[zealous karma]

It only took a week !

[swift swan]

Overkill

[zealous karma]

I remember it fondly

[grand trout]

Oh boy

[zealous karma]

This I won’t remember fondly

[grand trout]

Next week sentryx2 glacia

[zealous karma]

Time to use thorton

[swift swan]

Striker perrserker gaming

[grand trout]

Btw piercing blows negate HA right

[zealous karma]

What passive is that?

[grand trout]

Healthy adv

[zealous karma]

Oh ye

[grand trout]

Hmmm should i use n

[zealous karma]

I don’t see why not

[swift swan]

Which N

On who

[zealous karma]

I am still so shocked Karen survived a sync from glacia

[lethal cloud]

ugh next week will be super annoying for me

[zealous karma]

I think on Phoebe base

[swift swan]

Marnie i assume, she's the one with healthy advantage

[lethal cloud]

fairy and steel

[zealous karma]

You don’t have PB Solgaleo?

[lethal cloud]

oh yeah

totally forgot abt him

[zealous karma]

Oh wait she has wise entry nvm he’ll be fine

[swift swan]

Well, sentry entry x2

[lethal cloud]

spec only then

[zealous karma]

If elesa can clear sentry entry Sol can clear sentry

[lethal cloud]

poison weak champ

yeah, next week will be a struggle for me lol

[zealous karma]

Poison stall at worse

[grand trout]

God we should have koga nuke soon

He's a very good poison unit

[zealous karma]

Thank the lord for glacia having nerfed offenses cause idk how id of done it if she had normal offenses

[grand trout]

It will help f2p a lot

Who gets ex this month btw

[swift swan]

Roxie EX is a thing now!

[zealous karma]

So true

[swift swan]

Clair

[versed meteor]

I think this ice drake got a bug dude keeps getting crits even without a crit raise

[verbal karma]

Uuuuuuuuugh

I am so god damn close to winning with the Kahili team

[lethal cloud]

i realize that too

he kept critting my SS Silver like he's free for all crit

[zealous karma]

What’s the team?

[grand trout]

Try vigilance ?

[undone ether]

htere we go

[verbal karma]

Only a sliver of health left on Sydney before he syncs

[undone ether]

98k sync damage with NC Serena ❤️

[zealous karma]

I KNKW RIGHT

SOMEONE UNDERSTANSS MY PAIN

[swift swan]

[verbal karma]

Kahili can survive Sydney's sync, but only if she's at full health...but then the sides use Earthquake

[zealous karma]

I didn’t go a single attempt against drake without an earthquake crittimg@me

[grand trout]

Ahhh eq

[lethal cloud]

ye

the sides/him spam EQ and for some reason

my DPS kept getting slapped with crit

like there is supposed to be a high crit prob for EQ

[zealous karma]

(There’s not)

[zealous karma]

Who’re your partners?

[lethal cloud]

then when I was dealing with Sydney, i missed whirlpool 4 times in a row when they dont even have evasion raised

[zealous karma]

Kahili does have endurance in TM

[grand trout]

Aren't there units which provide crit defense

[zealous karma]

I think it’s only jasmine and SClillie

[cinder summit]

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[verbal karma]

Leaf and Anni Skyla

[zealous karma]

I’d replace leaf with someone who can buff crit and Atk

[verbal karma]

...err...Kahili can buff her own Crit

and Leaf does buff Atk on top of Kahili's own Atk buffs

[zealous karma]

I thought she only had sure crit?

[verbal karma]

Leaf is mainly there to be an EX support with Adrenaline

[verbal karma]

She actually has Eagle Eye as well

[old orchid]

thats unreliable

[zealous karma]

I see, but do you have sonia it may be worth using her over leaf

[verbal karma]

...hold on, lemme double check if she has Adrenaline

[zealous karma]

It’s a 50%

[fringe valve]

Based last team

[old orchid]

its worse than just bring a crit support

[zealous karma]

Anni Skyla can flinch in aoe unless you have interference immunity

That’s true

[zealous karma]

Ty

[fringe valve]

Another overkill week

[old orchid]

#1010274591601598555 for that

[verbal karma]

Sadly too unreliable for me

[zealous karma]

I see, well if your Sonia is 3/5 she can also add another flinch chance

[verbal karma]

Hmmmmmm...

[zealous karma]

Ima actually goinf to sleep now as it’s 5 AM hopefully others can assist you

[undone ether]

Wait, what Glacia with NC Marnie? o_o

[sick inlet]

Hoenn started
I expect to see struggles

[fringe valve]

Whats the issue?

She just deleted with b move

[undone ether]

#1072120373858009088 message i just went ontype as much as possible 😭

[fringe valve]

I just like doing things off type personally. It also gives me an excuse to use SS Ethan every week .

[timid crown]

Using ss silver feels so bad. Restart after restart thanks to the terrible buddy move condition.

[swift swan]

It depends on the stage, really. Older CS stages don't have a lot of AOEs and only use them once mid is down

Newer ones, yeahh

Not to mention stages that set weather like Drake will require you to change the weather or use his b-move turn 1 or you'll lose access to it due to chip damage

[swift swan]

Stick around and you will!

[vestal onyx]

Would like some help with drake’s stage, this is my ice roster

[swift swan]

Hmmm. Hala + Candice + crit and speed support

[vestal onyx]

None of them are gridded

Rip

[swift swan]

Hala DPS, Candice nukes

[vestal onyx]

How far can I go?

[swift swan]

I imagine candice wants her full nuke grid

Wait, is this master mode or hard mode

[vestal onyx]

Would like to be able to beat the champion as well?

[vestal onyx]

Champion if possible

I’m going to try to beat it on hard first

To reset my units

Then try to beat it on master mode?

[swift swan]

But basically you've completed your Hoenn medal then, yeah?

Well if you're only doing hard mode, ungridded Hala is fine

[vestal onyx]

Who do I leave for Marnie?

[vestal onyx]

How do I check?

I don’t remember

If it’s last months one

I got 9k on master mode

[verbal karma]

Damn, I can't believe my silly team against R3 Glacia actually worked

[old orchid]

do you see a medal?

you have to complete the type medal to unlock Master Mode on each region

[swift swan]

OH this is the ice CS. My bad, I mixed it up with Hoenn CS which also has ice-weak drake

[swift swan]

Yeah ok ice CS lol

[old orchid]

me as well didnt read the full convo

[vestal onyx]

Oh it’s probably my fault

[verbal karma]

It was supposed to be a bit of a meme, it actually working was never part of the Plan

[old orchid]

no worries

[vestal onyx]

This will be my first time hitting hoeen

Got 14 medals this week

[swift swan]

Hala, speed support, weather setter (can be Candice, can be others.) At Hard Mode I believe Hala as the sole damage dealer should work fine

[swift swan]

Then Ghetsis can take on Marnie. Just bring a status unit

[vestal onyx]

How does this look?

Hmm

[vestal onyx]

Will tate work?

[swift swan]

Let's see your supports

[vestal onyx]

My good tanks are locked

Rip

[old orchid]

next time you should fill out the tracker for easier understanding and more convenient to send

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[vestal onyx]

Oh I have , I forgot HAHAHA

[swift swan]

Hop could work. Sonia too but she's weak to ground so be careful (at 1/5 she can't buff crit so remember Hala has to buff his own)

[vestal onyx]

I suppose now’s a good time to raise hop since ex soon anyways

[swift swan]

He's a great pair

[old orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-gotcha-pokemon-sword-and-shield-pokemon-hop-leon-pokemon-gif-25473176

[verbal karma]

Okay, so...
good news: I can still use SS Brendan for either R4 or R5
bad news: I dunno who to add as a third member to my Karen team

[swift swan]

What's the team?

[verbal karma]

Right now, I have Karen and Sycamore, both EX'd

[swift swan]

Hmm, then just a special defense debuffer I suppose

Which is hard to come by, I know

[verbal karma]

I am trying to decide if SS Brendan would be better for R4 or R5

Since I planned to use my Hoenn Rain team for R5

[swift swan]

And what's your hoenn rain team exactly

Karen could appreciate ss brendan

[verbal karma]

Archie & May

[old orchid]

just slap Roxanne as the third

[swift swan]

Ah, I think you can afford taking SS Brendan out of that team and bring someone cheaper

[verbal karma]

Fair

[vestal onyx]

Who’s be a good support for ghetesis? My Sabrina is locked rip

[swift swan]

Slow crit buffs on May's part but I think it won't matter

[old orchid]

she has Dire Rain

[swift swan]

Ideally sycamore, but since neither sycamore nor ghetsis are powerboosted, you need 3 turns for Ghetsis's crit

Is SS Elesa available?

[old orchid]

can grid Ghetsis' TM MPR if you want to

[vestal onyx]

Rotom?

Ye

[old orchid]

yeah

do you have Lucian?

[vestal onyx]

Psychic pony?

Yes as well

But who would be the tank?

[old orchid]

SS Elesa

[swift swan]

SS Elesa/Lucian/Ghetsis? Sure, but the paralysis will be annoying to fish

[old orchid]

oh this is Marnie's stage?

[swift swan]

Hostile environment on Thunder of all things

[swift swan]

Yeah just planning in advance

[old orchid]

Ghetsis himself has Dragon Breathe HE1

[swift swan]

I mean it's still fine, but you need to grid Hostile Environment on Ghetsis, yes

Dragon breath first turn and reset if it doesn't paralyze

[vestal onyx]

I went with tate

Now it’s just planning for master mode

[verbal karma]

Damn, even with fully debuffed Sp. Def, fully buffed Sp. Attack & Crit and a sync from an EX'd support, Karen's sync is still not enough to beat R4 Phoebe...

[sick inlet]

Me saving round 4 for Drake because I didn't learn the move "read"

[old orchid]

me saving R4 for Drake so that my Hala hits harder

[toxic cobalt]

What about her dps?

[vestal onyx]

is there an f2p stadium clear that i might have missed for ice clear? racking my head for team comps are painful when i have limited units

[dark osprey]

would suggest to use poision stalls on the few except maybe Marnie & Drake

[toxic cobalt]

#1011675077764456519 message

[vestal onyx]

my poison stall units aren't that built yet rip

but i'll give it a trry

[grim bison]

HOW ARE YOU NOT DEAD

[formal vigil]

[wide adder]

I spotted a computer mouse by the g in gimmick in phoebes info lol

[verbal karma]

Basically non-existent...despite Spec. Dmg. Red. being disabled

[toxic cobalt]

You are using dirty fighting?

[verbal karma]

...was I supposed to?

[toxic cobalt]

Karen needs it for multipliers

[verbal karma]

Okay, gotta redo her sync grid then

[toxic cobalt]

Why not use Nessa?

[old orchid]

Phoebe has Sentry Entry x2

[grim bison]

Offtype. 2.5k Hoenn, complete

[old orchid]

post your clears in #1010274591601598555 next time

[verbal karma]

...damn, even Dirty Fighting isn't enough to turn the tides to my favor...

[vestal onyx]

How does this look for ice 2.5k?

[old orchid]

i would replace STate with Ghetsis

can grid him for Dragon Breathe HE1

note that Sabrina is weak to Dark

[vestal onyx]

my tate is 3/5 with para support

if that changes?

[old orchid]

oh thats good

also you have TMR on 2 teams

[vestal onyx]

ghetsis is dum dum

no grits

[vestal onyx]

tmr?

sorry for ping

rip

[old orchid]

The Masked Royal

[vestal onyx]

OH

that's for dailies

ignore the top left one

[old orchid]

both Shauntal and Drake have TMR

[vestal onyx]

hmm who could i replace for ss silver?

[old orchid]

Agatha team is a bit messy, you should time Candice's Hail so that she gets full multipliers

SS Silver is good

[vestal onyx]

since i can't have 2 tmr

[old orchid]

TMR is the one to go away in either Drake or Shauntal team

[vestal onyx]

i'm not sure who would be a good choice

to support for him

[old orchid]

oh i misread your comment, mb

[vestal onyx]

i'm planning to abuse the permahail?

[old orchid]

i see SS May

[old orchid]

just a reminder tho

[vestal onyx]

got it

[vestal onyx]

since eusine is 2/5

i gridded him for full weather

and blizzard

[old orchid]

these are good to go, just level up Koga's team more

[swift swan]

Karen should have a good sync. What's her grid?

[vestal onyx]

ss may for liza? wouldn't that be a little weird?

[swift swan]

Mine did around 30k post support EX. No zone

[vestal onyx]

or ss may for ss silver hmmm

[old orchid]

SS May for SS Silver

[verbal karma]

Her sync is the only thing that does good damage

[vestal onyx]

do i take the on type modifier? that may gonna do no damage though

may is there for speed down? and def down?

[old orchid]

yeah

[swift swan]

Well yeah, which should be enough to KO after support EX

[verbal karma]

...okay, that, and Dark Pulse, but she only gets to do one Dark Pulse after her sync and only if quadqueing works...and that too isn't enough, sadly

[swift swan]

Hmm, mine was enough after sync + 1 dark pulse

[verbal karma]

Mine was just one sliver off

and she's already at Level 140

[swift swan]

Probably a bad damage roll then. Or pick up less bulk on your params

[verbal karma]

Wait, question

Were your Dark-type gears maxed?

[sick inlet]

Most likely

[toxic cobalt]

Are you doing this on half sync round?

[verbal karma]

No, on R4

[verbal karma]

If it is, then that presents a problem

[toxic cobalt]

Then why isn't she doing 3 dark pulse's after she syncs?

[verbal karma]

What?

No

She only does one Dark Pulse after she syncs

[toxic cobalt]

Yes, and she has 3 moves after she syncs

[verbal karma]

No?

...wait

You mean if I sync with Karen first?

[toxic cobalt]

Of course, she needs her mega

[verbal karma]

...yeah, that's a problem

[toxic cobalt]

You didn't answer before when I asked why not use Nessa

[verbal karma]

Oh, that question was towards me?

[toxic cobalt]

Yes, Karen is no fun to use, Nessa is much simpler

[grand trout]

Nessa has good dark dps?

[old orchid]

she does, but Phoebe has Sentry Entry x2

[grand trout]

I just use jaw lock for the innate lol

[verbal karma]

Ah, shoot, Jaw Lock is also physical

Was hoping for a special attacker...

[grand trout]

grimsley dark pulse

[toxic cobalt]

Try Karen again but sync with her first

So you can actually use her dark pulse

[verbal karma]

Okay

...damn, now I am doing even worse than before

Now I can't even do the second sync because now I am getting plagued by not having enough move gauge

[grand trout]

Who's your team atm

[verbal karma]

SS Brendan/Karen/Sycamore

I had much better progress when I synced with Sycamore first

[grand trout]

Hmmmm

Imo ss brendan and sycamore is redundant

[hidden ore]

I forgot about ice week bc Koga and I run into similar problem as Lucian yesterday with parameters
Koga is r4 and I want to offtype him

[grand trout]

Ss Brenda can provide the buffs sycamore can ptovide

[verbal karma]

...he can?

Oh yeah, his TM

I forgor 💀

[grand trout]

Yes brendan can buff sp atk and def, karen can buff the resr

[hidden ore]

I reserve my ices for Agatha & Marnie (Irida for Marnie)

[grand trout]

You can replace him with someone who can help with gauge, i know sycamore can but he can only do it once

[verbal karma]

Hmmm...then I could replace Sycamore with someone who can fill gauge

[grand trout]

So you have cbede

Or ssteven

Cobalion, even

rosa

[keen jasper]

Brendan grants himself free moves

Or you can use a speed buffer

[grand trout]

This is phoebe, right

Skyla can provide def and speed + potions

[keen jasper]

Well, Phoebe is physical this week so Skyla wouldn't be a bad idea

[grand trout]

She can also flinch with the right grid

[old orchid]

Phoebe is mixed tho so watch out for strong special moves like Shadow Ball and Psychic

[verbal karma]

Damn!

Still not enough to beat Phoebe

Even when I sync with Karen first and sync twice

[grand trout]

Hmmm

[verbal karma]

Finally done!

[grand trout]

Who did you use

[verbal karma]

I changed the params a little

Make Phoebe less bulky at the cost of making her hit harder

[grand trout]

And the units?

[sick inlet]

.

[verbal karma]

Actually, no

I replaced Sycamore with Leaf

[sick inlet]

Interesting choice

[verbal karma]

It was for move gauge management

Anyway, CS finally done

[grand trout]

I just realized today you can insert max moves and not fuck up your countdown

But you have to be REAL quick

[old orchid]

thats called max move quad queue

[sick inlet]

Like the sync move quad queue

[hushed sorrel]

I just did Phoebe, not sure why SST red is doing 3x more damage than TMR when it's weak against Dark.

[tribal agate]

well Phoebe has Sentry Entry x2 which means massive dmg reduction to physical damage

and both SST Red and TMR are physical, but SST Red is broken by default, so i'd assume he has less struggle to force through

[swift swan]

Also brutal swing has low BP

Unless you were using darkest larriat?

[dusty yarrow]

Wallace is smth...
Sp. Atk Buff 🔵 from Kris doens't buff Sync Moves right (only normal moves)...

[swift swan]

Special attack buffs all damaging moves

Unless you mean Special Moves up Next

Then yes, it only affects regular moves

[dusty yarrow]

Yeah, I meant the Special Moves up next

[hushed sorrel]

So do I need to use special f
Attack for phobe?

[tribal agate]

for Phoebe? Yes

you can check the passives in the pins or on pomatools which is also pinned

Sentry Entry x2 raises defense so much it neuters physical damage
Wise Entry x2 is the special version

keep those in mind

[hushed sorrel]

OK got it

[dusty yarrow]

I mean look how much Sidney's Sync dealt

[tribal agate]

that hurts (us)

[hushed sorrel]

The only dark special I have is houndoom. Will that be better for masters mode?

[dusty yarrow]

You can just brute force the Entries x2 (mostly with a really good unit team)

[formal vigil]

Houndoom is good

[dusty yarrow]

Houndoom is good choice

[hushed sorrel]

Will it need grid you think?

[formal vigil]

Yes

[hushed sorrel]

I guess so.. the moves looks weak on it's own

Damm might just off type I don't really want to grid Houndoom lol

[tribal agate]

(thanks Lost for the edit)

[manic kiln]

don’t worry i’ll try to edit asap

[tribal agate]

i feel like i might put your calendar on second spot i'll ask the others

[manic kiln]

We’re having 2 CS atm, pins probably look better after another week

[thin pecan]

What’s the strategy for Koga in the special stadium?

[old orchid]

avoid getting poison and watch out for evasion post sync

[thin pecan]

What should I be using to kill him?

[full mesa]

Ghetsis

[thin pecan]

I tried Bugsy and Silver

So special attack would be better?

What’s a good team for Ghetsis

[full mesa]

Something that boosts spa/spe and crit.

It's Koga. He shouldn't be that hard.

Even to off type

[old orchid]

i would say save Ghetsis for champion round unless you have SS N

Bugsy and SS Silver are fine, who was the third?

[thin pecan]

The ice tech guy with ice fang

[old orchid]

oh Wulfric

toss him

[thin pecan]

I just couldn’t do any damage to him

Silver was not hitting hard

[old orchid]

do you have Sonia?

[thin pecan]

Already used her

[old orchid]

any physical support left?

Hilbert or Aaron

[thin pecan]

Bugsy lmao

I have Aaron at 1/5

[old orchid]

Aaron, Bugsy and SS Silver then

wait, Bugsy & Scyther right?

oh it seems im right

[thin pecan]

Yeah

[old orchid]

the plan is buffing attack with Aaron and Bugsy, SS Silver uses his B move first, the X Speed +

after first sync just focus on the mid

you might need to quad queue tho i forgot Silver has Adrenaline

[thin pecan]

Ok Aaron died right off the bat

[old orchid]

did you accidentally choose support receives x3 damage param?

[full mesa]

Do you use the parameters from pins?

[old orchid]

whatparams are you using

[thin pecan]

Nope

I’m using the post sync parameters

With special down

Interference down and striker damage up

I clicked to see what teams have cleared this and there isn’t an ice team that has lmao

It’s all been off type OP people

[swift swan]

Yeah that feature is near useless

SS silver should do fine even at 1/5. Try presync params. Mine won at 2.5k ungridded

[tame gust]

Oh, wow… I was completely exhausted yesterday and fell asleep mid team building for that last minute Sinnoh stuff. Oh well, time to get ready for Hoenn!

[dark osprey]

just try to grid snow shelter on 1/5 silver maybe or get a healer or use the B move as the first move

silver is so needy at 1/5

[thin pecan]

I can’t get it to work with those 3

[thin pecan]

I don’t have a snow setter and I do use his B move right off the bat because the sides always do AOE hits anyway

[vast dome]

I have a BP Candice team raring to go for round 1. I was thinking Falkner as support.

I will poison stall for round 2.

My usual poison stall team is SS Leaf/Janine/Koga

[vestal onyx]

for the marnie fight, i only need to stun marnie?

[mellow linden]

You need to inflict a status condition; Burn, Freeze, Paralysis, Poison, or Sleep.

Burn, Paralysis, and Poison are preferred since those status conditions won't go away on their own

[vast dome]

Can I use 1/5 non EX Summer Steven for the Pasio stadium? Yes. What supports will I need? Very good ones. And what round? 3 or 4? And I think I know what order to go in

[grand steppe]

Sounds like you need to look at Steven’s base kit to understand what he wants first.

He has a Hail multiplier, so any round is good for him. R1 would extend hail, R4 would increase his damage.

Hail isn’t common, so you probably have to resort to Candice (Abomasnow)

ATK and speed and some crit are good for supporting both of them

I.e. Hilbert (Samurott)

[vast dome]

So, Round 4 for Summer Steven

I have Round 3 blocked off for my biggest damage dealer (SS Red EX)

I also have Ghetsis if that helps

And as mentioned earlier, I'll need to status Marnie. Maybe I'll have the status condition effect as well

[dark osprey]

Setting snow would be to counter Drakes sand gimmicks including raised damage and evasion. The f2pish ones that set snow are Candice, tech lapras, tech jynx, BP Candice.

Also could just turn the weather sunny or rainy if needed

[pure haven]

How does it look for next week? I'm still doing medallion, missing fairy, electric, steel, ghost and poison

For Wallace I'll just stall to get ghost and poison out of the way

Still, gonna have to do 2.5k after medallions so I'll prolly just go with the same teams I showed

Wait ssAcerola is two times there smh

There we go

[swift swan]

For hard mode, looks okay

[north crown]

I would worry about mm instead

[nocturne pawn]

i just realized

lucy is an enabler for karen dps

[swift swan]

Iirc drake sets rain? So be careful with that i guess

[nocturne pawn]

sand

unless this is next week

in which case uh

shit

[swift swan]

And glacia has sentry entry x2 but I think you can bruteforce

[nocturne pawn]

wouldnt be surprised if it was rain though

kingdra

💀

[swift swan]

Yeah was talking dragon-weak drake next week

Just checked. He sets rain

[swift swan]

I assume you'll just be stalling the champion

[nocturne pawn]

i mean its already poison weak

[pure haven]

Yeah

[pure haven]

Yes, I'll finish hard mode and start mm

That's why I was wondering if those teams are ok for mm

[pure haven]

I can try cMarnie

[pure haven]

I could just use Bertha and run sandstorm

So long as he doesn't has rain

[vast dome]

So people say do Drake first for Ice stadium, right?

I had him in second due to lack of poison moves

[mellow linden]

He doesn’t need to be 1st

[pure haven]

I did Agatha 1st and Koga 2nd

Agatha just kill herself and Koga is not that annoying on r2

Also iirc r1 is perma weather and Drake sets sandstorm

[vast dome]

And if anything, never do Drake Round 4, right?

[pure haven]

Yeah

I would actually do Drake r2 and just stall him

'Cuz he's annoying

Wait so this means that he's getting immune to poison and wrap 💀 ?

[nocturne pawn]

i think(

its poison

cuz trap is a status change

[north crown]

Just status conditions. Just apply poison before then.

[nocturne pawn]

but he doesnt remove it

only immune

[pure haven]

Man if I don't poison him b4 sync I'm gonna kms

[nocturne pawn]

grid lucy with he1

[north crown]

Just poison after sync lmao

[pure haven]

Actully gonna do that

[north crown]

Between sync and tm

[pure haven]

Thing is my luck is trash

[nocturne pawn]

lucy literally guarantees a poison

💀

your luck does not matter if it is 100%

[pure haven]

Isn't poison fang a 50%?

[north crown]

.

[nocturne pawn]

my guy

did you not read

[pure haven]

[cinder summit]

Hostile Environment 1

Raises the chance of inflicting status conditions with the additional effects of moves.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Red & Snorlax
Whitney & Miltank
Blaine & Rapidash
N (Anniversary 2021) & Reshiram
Silver & Ho-Oh
Siebold (Holiday 2019) & Octillery
Silver & Feraligatr
N & Zekrom
Elesa & Zebstrika
Sygna Suit Elesa & Rotom
Clemont & Magneton
Sonia & Yamper

‎

Ash & Pikachu
Player & Pikachu
Lorelei & Lapras
Wulfric & Avalugg
Candice & Abomasnow
Candice & Froslass
Pryce & Dewgong
Sygna Suit N & Kyurem
Glacia & Glalie
Ghetsis & Kyurem
Nessa (Holiday 2021) & Eiscue
Janine & Ariados
Agatha & Arbok

‎

Lucy & Seviper
Looker & Croagunk
Lance (New Year's 2021) & Gyarados
Professor Oak & Mew
Bugsy & Beedrill
Lusamine & Pheromosa
Agatha & Gengar
Helena (Hex Maniac) & Haunter
Sygna Suit Brendan & Latios
Clair & Kingdra
Sygna Suit Cynthia & Kommo-o

‎

Drake & Salamence

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[pure haven]

I'm slow sometimes

Sorry

[nocturne pawn]

he1 is a doubled chance

[pure haven]

Ohhhh

I thought it just made it more posible

Like 10 or 20% more chance or smth

My bad

[nocturne pawn]

tbf its shittily worded

but

its 50%*(1+1)

with he1

[mellow linden]

Passives like Hostile Environment, On a Roll, and Swag Bag multiply the base chance by 1 + the number on the passive, basically

[pure haven]

Yea

[nocturne pawn]

aggravation and hostile environment work with the formula of 1+x

[nocturne pawn]

i keep forgetting swag bag exists 💀

[pure haven]

So if it's he2 it would be 1+2?

[nocturne pawn]

yes its tripled

which is why allister can guarantee a poison with sludge bomb

[pure haven]

I see

[nocturne pawn]

actually i lied

allister has he3

[north crown]

(1+x)b
b = base chance

[proud axle]

"Add the base chance to itself X times" is how I like to phrase it

[vast dome]

Oh wow I asked the same question in the span of 15 minutes

And so these are my teams. All that's left is to choose Round allocation and tweak as necessary.

Leaf tanks on the basis of Drake Round 1.

[north crown]

why is the image taking so long to load..?

[north crown]

hard or mm?

[vast dome]

Master Mode

This of course is Ice Stadium

[north crown]

ohhh it's the ice stadium

if ssred is 2-3/5, I would advise rocking hop/lillie, ssred, blaine/sun setter

[vast dome]

He's more than 3/5

[north crown]

then yeah I would prioritize ssred's nuke, since it's pretty good

[vast dome]

Which leads to the zillion dollar question: Who should I face in what round?

Drake looks like round 1 to me. I don't really care much for the others

[nocturne pawn]

the other 3 fights are easy

drake r1 is imo the easiest way to handle it

[vast dome]

So it doesn't matter who I face in Rounds 2, 3 or 4, right?

[summer flare]

I managed round 3 drake, if it's the special csmm

But yeah, not optimal

For the final round, I used ghetsis, colress and SS morty

[nocturne pawn]

wait is phoebe sentry entry

[zealous karma]

Yes

That’s why I used May ssbrendan and Archie horse

[nocturne pawn]

wughekfke

ok well masked royal did 23k

so good enough

i just need to crit

[zealous karma]

And that’s why I used Karen against glacia

[nocturne pawn]

wait whag

[winged agate]

Hello, is it possible to hit max points in special stadium with these sync pairs? I'm completely raw when it comes to it, I don't even know what modificators I should use for each member

[keen jasper]

Dude, your roster is stacked AF

[molten pasture]

are there any F2P guides on how to do hoenn challange?

[keen jasper]

Well, you can look at either TheGamingEevee or Memoschprehen's channels

But you have some gacha pairs, so why would you even need a F2P guide?

[molten pasture]

why do you assume I have gatcha pairs?

[grand steppe]

Have you unlocked the master mode difficulty? Or do you still need to complete the type medal challenge for Hoenn?

[keen jasper]

Not really gacha pairs, more like limited pairs

[winged agate]

I'm talking about the stadium with champion Marnie

[opal olive]

Around how hard is 12.5k in the special stadium compared to 12.5k in Sinnoh CS?

[nocturne pawn]

pretty fangless except for drake and marnie

[grand steppe]

Ah, misread that there. You should be able to, have you completed Master Mode before in other CS regions?

[opal olive]

Alright

[winged agate]

No, I haven't unlocked them yet

[grand steppe]

Well you want to form 5 teams for the event. Do you know the basics of team building?

Such as Special Striker wanting a support that buffs Sp.Atk, etc. How to enable your tech sync pair's sync move with debuffs/statuses etc?

[north crown]

you could also refer to the teambuilding guide to help

I'll let someone else decide whether filling this channel with commands is worth it

[opal olive]

Can EX Candice beat Drake or does she need some other DPS to help her?

[grand steppe]

Considering that Ice Punch isn't very strong, I would say, yes. She does want a 2nd damage dealer.

[north crown]

or use a sleep pair lmao

[winged agate]

Very basic basics Like I know I'd need one pair to tank, one to support and one to deal damage, but I usually use what game recommends and if that doesn't work I try to swap what I see doesn't do well

[opal olive]

I will leave Serena and SS Lyra available to save the really weak teams

[north crown]

candice has weak dps

[north crown]

trial and error in a nutshell

[mellow linden]

Your tank and your Support can be (and often are) the same Sync Pair

[grand steppe]

I recommend playing the mode without any modifiers first, once you complete the Ice Stadium you be allowed to use the Reset option, which you can use to take on the battles for additional points.
Since it's your first time ever doing CS, this will ease you into this.

[winged agate]

I completed it without modifiers

[grand steppe]

Ah okay, so now you want to go for points. Well what teams did you complete them with? We can possibly modifiy them.

If you want to spend time filling out the tracker you could showcase your roster more easily.

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[grand steppe]

For the Ice Stadium, the main thing is to have a :

• Physical Team with Weather vs Drake.
• A Status Condition like Burn/Poison/Paralysis vs Marnie
• The rest of the stages are more flexible

[opal olive]

Do you only need to apply a status condition to the center in the battle against Marnie or do you need to status all three?

[nocturne pawn]

only mid

[opal olive]

Ok so I think Ghetsis should do well with Dragon Breath

[nocturne pawn]

sure

[opal olive]

Well I mean it’s not really a problem having to put a paralyzer on the team

[nocturne pawn]

also pins have all of the stage gimmicks

[opal olive]

Yeah I’m looking at those

Ok I’m gonna start trying the teams

[hidden ore]

Koga better at round 4?

[grand steppe]

Yeah, since it's mostly special damage from him.

[hushed sorrel]

O so if you have done hoenn before you can go into masters mode straight away first week? IE if I complete the 18 type medal this time, next time it's on I can get masters mode first week?

[grand steppe]

You only have to do the type medal once per region. Afterwards anytime the region cycles back you have it right at the beginning.

[hidden ore]

Hmm

So I decided to do Round 3 Agatha

[nocturne pawn]

did you do drake already

[hidden ore]

Yep

I’m left with Koga & Agatha

Saving Irida and BP Candice for the last

Kinda wanting ontype, idk about Offtype with Gilbert

Don’t know if I can slap my masterfairs (including rats without ssa)
Koga has too much hp, so I chose Agatha for this round

I think I’m running into parameter problem again

[nocturne pawn]

yea cuz agatha and koga are old stages

they arent that bulky

try using atk up instead of strength

since strength increases hp

[winged agate]

Ok it took longer than I expected but here they are

I don't remember full teams I used because it was a couple of days ago but I used grass team (2 Leafeons + Dawn I believe) for Drake, Giovanni for Koga, a water team with Blue and Cyrus and I believe I had Irida and Ghetsis left for Marnie

[mellow linden]

You should put your 3- and 4-stars in it as well, the only one you have listed is Skyla (presumably because she was promoted to 5-star potential)

[winged agate]

I didn't put them because they're mostly lvl 1 with no raised potential

[proud axle]

You might be missing out, then

A lot of them are amazing

[mellow linden]

Don’t ignore them, they generally range from decent to amazing

[grand steppe]

Well, using the two Leafeons vs Drake will probably be a good team.

[proud axle]

Like, Roxanne is an amazing "glass support" type of pair

Marley has respectable bulk and can grid for very broad flexibility

[winged agate]

I'm an extremely casual player, so I thought 3 stars are in general not worth investing. I upgraded Skyla for the battle villa

[mellow linden]

So for future reference, rarity is almost meaningless in this game

[proud axle]

And 3star Candice can fucking shitmurder Ice-weak Drake

[mellow linden]

Candice has a very strong Sync nuke when invested into, yeah

[proud axle]

Mine isn't even EX. I just had her sync him twice.

[grand steppe]

Well you have plenty of 5-star options to choose from. You'll want for form some team presets.
Irida + an Ice-type for example, and a support that compliments them both.

Standouts I see for damage cores:
ssDiantha & Olivia
Giovani & Bianca
Irida & Ghetsis
Adaman & ssErika
And by others: Cyrus, Solgaleo, Zinnia, scSteven, and Silver.

[wide adder]

I didn’t pick bad types to leave for next week did I?

[winged agate]

Okay. Is there any specific order I should challenge the E4? And what point modificators are advised to choose?

[wide adder]

team/box dependent since we have halfsync and perma terrain this week

[nocturne pawn]

what types are you even missing

i cant tell

[winged agate]

Right, no perma terrain for Drake

[nocturne pawn]

nah imo that makes him easier

[wide adder]

ghost dragon and grass

[nocturne pawn]

just set weather once murder him with shit

[nocturne pawn]

thats fine

[grand steppe]

You can find a pinned google sheet with the point modifiers.
The order you take on them is mostly dependent on your teams since you can take advantage of the round bonuses.
Only one I would avoid is Physical Damage increase vs Drake.
The weather isn't an issue since you can change it youself.

[nocturne pawn]

i did sidney on r4

that was a mistake 💀

[mellow linden]

It’s Hard Mode, so honestly it barely matters

[nocturne pawn]

also my phoebe r3 team was so jank

[mellow linden]

Why’s Roxanne there

[nocturne pawn]

to max out spatk

cuz it was half sync

so i wanted to max karen’s offense

spend another sync cycle to debuff her spatk

[mellow linden]

Ah

[nocturne pawn]

nuke to wipe sides and pray i get a flinch

[mellow linden]

Makes sense

[nocturne pawn]

so she doesnt die

also she buffs defense

which karen needed to survive

[mellow linden]

Half-Sync on Phoebe is an interesting choice, always cool to see how different people tackle a given week

[nocturne pawn]

tbh sidney was worse

because he has evasion post sync

so it was like pick your poison

also i tried masked royal

but he didnt get close to nuking her

ik it was cuz of sentry entry x2 but i kept trying

[mellow linden]

I personally picked Glacia for Half-Sync round because I have Bea + SSA Cynthia, lol

[nocturne pawn]

i couldve done bea on glacia

[wide adder]

i halfsynced phoebe this week too, mostly bc i slipped up and used my flying team first and dark was my second strongest speed clear that wasnt champion

[nocturne pawn]

also hala is strong

does sand superiority reduce sync damage

or just regular move damages

[cinder summit]

Sand Superiority 3

Powers up the user's moves during a sandstorm. Protects the user from damage from a sandstorm.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Emmet & Archeops

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[nocturne pawn]

yay for inconsistent descriptions

💀

[wide adder]

i also forgot to change weather in the ice stage but it didnt change drake dying turn 3

used redlax+hala+kukui there

[nocturne pawn]

i tried that but kukui just got blown up

[proud axle]

Is that even inconsistent?

[nocturne pawn]

even with ex

[nocturne pawn]

what the fuck does damage mean

most passives with damage reduction at least specify

[wide adder]

my redlax had headstart so there wasnt time for kukui to explode, plus i was on hard mode bc havent done hoenn before

[nocturne pawn]

oh on hard

yeah that makes more sense then

[proud axle]

It stops the sandstorm itself from harming the mon

[nocturne pawn]

…

oh

[wide adder]

[nocturne pawn]

so its not even damage reduction like i remembered

i couldve just brute forced drake with the same team

[proud axle]

That is on Ingo

[nocturne pawn]

on ice stadium

oh well

[nocturne pawn]

isnt it like sand castle

or something

[proud axle]

There is also sand castle yes, in some grids

[nocturne pawn]

💀

i hate this game

[proud axle]

Attack move, so that does not include syncs

[grand steppe]

It's not a damage reduction passive. It's just Surging Sand 3 + Sand Shelter combined.

[wide adder]

https://tenor.com/view/played-yourself-dj-khaled-gif-11099992

[nocturne pawn]

yeah i realized

[wide adder]

me whenever i misremember a mechanic and play around the wrong thing:

[nocturne pawn]

i just brute forced without changing the weather

[proud axle]

Maybe this is why Darth Vader hates sand so much

[nocturne pawn]

its coarse its rough and it gets everywhere

[wide adder]

the real evil thing is when their weakness is the same type of move they use. thus using ghost zone in one of the clears in one of the cs regions also buffs the enemy

[proud axle]

Or when they have Actual Type Coverage (Steel-weak Bertha with ground moves to destroy Solgaleo and Bisharp)

[mellow linden]

Well Bertha’s a Ground specialist in the main games, so that’s not surprising

[wide adder]

I don’t mind that as much as literally having to buff the enemy in order to buff myself

[proud axle]

It is, but PMEX typically shies away from giving enemies Actual Type Coverage

[nocturne pawn]

mm do they

i guess kind of

[mellow linden]

90+% of CS opponents have moves for both types of their pokemon, I’m pretty sure

[proud axle]

There are fights where the bosses are conspicuously not using their own types in their attacks

This tends to happen when the enemy's weakpoint types, would in turn be weak to the boss' attacks

Poison-weak Will has zero Psychic moves

Dragon Weak Johto Lance has only two Dragon moves other than his sync (only one if you don't count the sidekicks)

(Kanto Lance actually has more, which is funny)

There is a Gardevoir on Poison-weak Cynthia's team, and it has a fire move and an ice move but zero Psychic moves

Dragon-weak Cynthia has zero Dragon moves

Dragon-weak Iris only has two dragon moves other than her sync (but unlike Lance, they're at least both on the boss)

[mellow linden]

I don’t see how using 2 moves of the type (which is usually about half the offensive moves they possess) is avoiding using the type, tbh

[proud axle]

2 moves across the entire party

[mellow linden]

Ah. I was referring to center pokemon

My bad

[proud axle]

Yeah, Iris actually sort of type-covers

At least, she does once her sidekicks stop attacking

(Because they have zero)

[dim depot]

Help! I can't win the champion fight for the special CS! I didn't know it was a SS N win button battle and I already spent him

Ghetsis does too little damage so I'm guessing it's a physical-weak stage. But I don't have any good physical Ice left either.

[plush tangle]

It's a Ghetsis "win button battle" tho

You have to inflict a status, that's it

[dim depot]

Even with status, the damage is really, really bad. Any other ice-weak stage and this would have swept. It feels like I'm off-typing.

[nocturne pawn]

ghetsis has 0 buffs

[dim depot]

What else does he need? I tried with SS Elesa and it wasn't much different. I'm nowhere close to winning.

[quaint solar]

Wich fight 🤔

[dim depot]

Champion?

[quaint solar]

Pasio Marine 🤔

[dim depot]

Yeah

[quaint solar]

You said your using EX Ghetsis right 🤔

[plush tangle]

Bro your ghetsis is lvl 107

You have a 5* lvl 125 wulfric and a lvl 107 ghetsis wtf

[dim depot]

Because he sweeps regardless of level. And always has since release. Would a few more expensive levels really make a difference?

[plush tangle]

You gain 26 SpA just from raising him at lvl 125

Ghetsis is a free Marnie win I don't see how you struggle

Debuff Marnie with Noble Roar, give him a support to buff his offenses while he debuffs and also give him someone that inflicts a status and that's it

if your buffer is also your status inflicter you can even double strike with pryce

[quaint solar]

LVL up yout Ghetsis to 125-150
LVL up your Xerneas to 125-150
Use a EX support with Xerneas (Psyduck or Mismagius)
Then grid them for the fight.

[dim depot]

I already used Xerneas too.

[plush tangle]

no joke, ghetsis + bp surge + roxanne lol

[dim depot]

But will it pre-sync? Because Fiery Wrath is like an instant lose condition.

[plush tangle]

yes it will

[quaint solar]

That's what Xerneas Sync is for
That team I suggested is post Sync

[plush tangle]

you can easily presync tho, ghetsis has a good nuke, especially ex

[dim depot]

This actually worked really well. I got farther than I ever did before.

[plush tangle]

well yeah

[quaint solar]

The fight will last longer than 2 Sync if your using him. That's why you should go post Sync and grid appropriately for that fight.
,But whatever floats your boat. ✌🏽

[dim depot]

I think I was 3 syncs in and could win. But it was so close.

[toxic cobalt]

Surprised they lasted 3 syncs

[plush tangle]

marnie's sync is ridiculously weak at -6 spa lol

and you can tank fiery wrath with wide guard (i totally did think of that when i recommended that team ahahah )

[old orchid]

Is your Sycamore EX? You can try him, Ghetsis and BP Surge with Sycamore having Adrenaline gridded so that you can do quad queue and sync twice

If you have Lucian it will be even easier

[plush tangle]

i think they just said they won

[old orchid]

Helper caught not reading moment

[toxic cobalt]

Ambiguous wording tbf

Why use Surge when there is another

[old orchid]

She is not cool as Surge

[plush tangle]

i didn't think of torchic lol

[old orchid]

[toxic cobalt]

Forgotten torchic (and its rare MPr)

[dim depot]

Oh wait, I meant to say couldn't win. Dumb autocorrect.

[old orchid]

Oh

[plush tangle]

Why use torchic when

[old orchid]

Try using the team i gave you then

[plush tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/and-i-oop-jasmine-masters-whoa-gif-14100703

[toxic cobalt]

Ghetsis tm MPr goes brrrr

[plush tangle]

No ?

with sharp entry you have +3 crit

[toxic cobalt]

But…+2 spatk

[plush tangle]

TM Ramp Up ?

Aurochs do you know Ghetsis's grid expansion lol

[toxic cobalt]

Oh yeah, is that enough?

[plush tangle]

Well +4 is enough yeah

[old orchid]

[plush tangle]

It's literally in the video you pinned in your thread

[toxic cobalt]

You’re implying some level of competence that was never promised

[plush tangle]

i must say it was 2.4k

but still

[plush tangle]

+6*

I used ally half HP so TM gave +2 SpA, with Ramp Up it's +3

[mellow linden]

What parameters are you using? It sounds like you might have Special Damage Reduction 8 on by mistake

[dim depot]

No way because then you really do no damage.

Which params should I use then? This is a fairly average attempt now at least.

[mellow linden]

I’d mainly like to know the specific ones you’re using so I can see if there’s any obvious issue there, but if you’re not using the parameters in the pins you can try those

Because at this point it’s definitely looking like a parameter issue

[dim depot]

A post-sync HP one I use.
Physical damage reduction
Interference immunity
Strength 1
Sync Buff
Ally Healing down
Physical damage reduction
Strength 2
Strength 3
Move gauge
Max HP 6
Standard damage reduction
Strength 6

[mellow linden]

Max HP 6 is the problem

That’s too much HP when combined with all that Strength

[old orchid]

That team doesnt use field effects so no field effect param is a free point

[mellow linden]

The 50 point special damage reduction parameter just sets Light Screen, which is ignored by critical hits

[nocturne pawn]

dont take hp up when doing strength

[old orchid]

You can pick 2 Power on hit params too

[dim depot]

Power on Hit hits too hard though. You can't survive post sync like that can you?

[nocturne pawn]

bruh shes -6

[mellow linden]

Ghetsis should be able to pre-Sync, tbh

[old orchid]

Do you have Sycamore and Lucian available?

[plush tangle]

That's too many strenght ngl

[mellow linden]

The Strength is fine on its own, it’s the Max HP 6 on top of it that’s an issue

[plush tangle]

Strenght is not only more bulk but also more damage, aside from Str 6 and sometimes 1 I never pick strenght

[mellow linden]

But of course switching to pre-Sync params means less bulky opponents

[dim depot]

Already got screwed on a sync for putting light screen on them

[plush tangle]

Bruh

[old orchid]

You were just unlucky

[mellow linden]

That’s a 20% chance, bad RNG happens

[plush tangle]

Put Light Screen

[mellow linden]

No reason to give up a free 50 points

[plush tangle]

50 free points

Also pick striker take x3 damage, you have no striker in that team

[toxic cobalt]

That’s 250 free points

[dim depot]

oh that's right

do I prioritize lowering offensive stats, or disabling speed multipliers?

[plush tangle]

Offensive stats

Idk gauge wise how it'd be, but you can try torchic and pryce instead of Surge and Roxanne

[rigid flint]

Are they running a cold snap grid?

[dim depot]

oh shoot I shouldn't be

[rigid flint]

Cos I don't think Pryce is gonna do much if Marnie and co aren't frozen

[old orchid]

Just stick to Surge and Roxanne

[rigid flint]

Yeah Surge and Roxanne work

[plush tangle]

I never said Pryce is gonna DPS

[old orchid]

Or Sycamore and Lucian for more overkill

[plush tangle]

Pryce is gonna AoE Speed debuff

[rigid flint]

Ono

[plush tangle]

Even without freeze he can still do some cheap damage

[rigid flint]

True

[dim depot]

oh yeah, this grid I have is only for freeze, no sync tiles

[rigid flint]

I do still think the Pryce, Sycamore, Ghetsis team is great

[plush tangle]

On Ghetsis ?

[dim depot]

yeah

[rigid flint]

You can run a mixture of sync and freeze

[plush tangle]

Remove cold snap you dont need it since you paralyse