Champion Stadium

[pure haven]

Maybe Maylene instead of Sonia for def debuff?

[mellow linden]

Have you gotten type medal on Hoenn CS yet?

[pure haven]

Nvm

I need medallion

[mellow linden]

Then no worries on Drake next week, lol

[pure haven]

Yea

I'm dumb af

[mellow linden]

Nah, it’s an easy mistake to make if you’ve encountered a portion of the region via special CS

[pure haven]

Yea

[outer kestrel]

I do have these ice types left, but I don’t think any of them are worthwhile

[pure haven]

And I've gotten accustomed to get my ass beaten on master mode that my brain just assumed I have to do 12.5k

[mellow linden]

If this is Marnie then replace SS Lana with a status inflictor

[outer kestrel]

Which status?

[mellow linden]

Burn, Poison, or Paralysis is ideal since those statuses don’t wear off on their own (unlike Sleep and Freeze)

[zealous karma]

On type this team should be fine

It’s on type with zone it’s pretty much just off type

[mellow linden]

It’s Hard Mode anyways, so moot point, lol

[outer kestrel]

Thanks it worked

[mellow linden]

Congrats!

[outer kestrel]

Holy if I knew a status was all I needed I would’ve saved 2 hours smh

[zealous karma]

They can test the team against drake rn as well

[mellow linden]

Marnie has Healthy Advantage 8

[mellow linden]

Ah, true

[outer kestrel]

I’m kinda lazy and don’t really read into stats and passives and stuff, so I didn’t know what healthy advantage did

But man I really need to read lol

[mellow linden]

Correction, Healthy Advantage 4

But yeah, that passive reduces damage taken if not affected by a status condition

[zealous karma]

It seems like the team will work

Gridless irida

[paper summit]

you know, I used that team but BP Candice instead of Ghetsis for Drake, and ngl, I completely forgot he has Wise Entry x2

guess that's how much Irida carries

[mellow linden]

Irida is quite nice, yeah

[noble plaza]

hmm...dont know if I can presync Lucian but the Tech 3x Damage param in the post one annihilates Nanu, and I doubt the others would fare much better

[zealous karma]

I did drake with SSMorty Irida and Lusamine

Tech x3 doesn’t effect syncs but I assume he has an aoe move that kills you?

[noble plaza]

yes

although I think Sandstorm is running out by the time I get to my second sync

also I do have a guaranteed Weather Warrior cookie buuuuut I already got Dauntless on her and it would be really annoying to put that back on

[zealous karma]

Maybe I’d start considering off typing since this seems to be a lot

[noble plaza]

yeah this is too annoying

the SC Subway Bros are good off type options, right? Or maybe Adaman?

[plush tangle]

If you have both yeah they work well off type

[noble plaza]

I have both twins and Adaman

[zealous karma]

Id try the SC twins

[noble plaza]

with who?

[plush tangle]

If you have Aaron that's great, otherwise Skyla can work

[noble plaza]

I actually have both haha.

[plush tangle]

Everyone has Skyla, thats why I suggested her in case you didnt have aaron

[noble plaza]

OH RIGHT LMAO

these aoe attacks are annihilating the two twins

[north crown]

Bertha, Aaron, Flint, Aaron, Cynthia

[white gale]

do we know what region is on for the next CS rotation?

[zealous karma]

Yes hoenn check pins

[white gale]

I see. it's a little buried in the pins

Hmm... Drake has Wise Entry x 2. Can Irida power through that or better to use Hala/Candice? Or maybe Irida + Hala or Candice?

[grand trout]

Yess

I can use korrina for glacia next week

[wide adder]

Which pasio cs stages are the hardest?

[grand trout]

Drake and marnie imo

[wide adder]

Should I save irida for drake or marnie then? Which she better used on?

[grand trout]

You can use hala + any other weather. Do you have asserola?

[grand trout]

Drake has wise entry x2 and weather while marnie needs a status. You can use irida either or, for hail override for drake or dps for marnie (provided someone sets status first)

[wide adder]

My ice box incase it makes a big difference for where she’d be more useful

[grand trout]

Hmmm

Definitely use hala for drake; he wants physical. That or summer steven

[white gale]

Oh I wouldn't use SS Acerola if I use Irida right? Hail conflicts with Sun

[grand trout]

Ghetsis can take out marnie as he has dragonbreath for paralysis

[grand trout]

Yup. You can use irida for another stage.

[white gale]

oh I'm talking about next week's Hoenn CS 😄 I don't need more than one ice team

[grand trout]

Ohhh

Lmao i thought you mean drake this week

[wide adder]

Also which of the base four should I use Perma field on

[white gale]

yeah I just realized Drake is in Special and next week's Hoenn

[grand trout]

I used it for drake with asserola and faitlin for effects galore. But again, up to you

[wide adder]

I don’t have the tapus I skipped them. They aren’t favs

[grand trout]

In that case, do you have summer steven? Imo he can use irida better than hala

[white gale]

is Irida+Hala or Candice+Hala better against Drake? Candice sets Hail and uses physical attacks..

[wide adder]

Probably Candice so you can take reduce special dmg free 100pt if you’re doing mm

[grand trout]

Her dps is shit. If you plan to use her nuke while hala does dps then use candice

[wide adder]

Although if you want to make hala do big dmg it’d be irida for some

Zone*

Depends on if you wanna use irida elsewhere or not. She can offtype

[grand trout]

What field efects can you abuse then? You can use irida r1 for hail and ice zone if you want

Then you can use summer steven alongside because he loves hail

[wide adder]

I feel if marnie is the other hard one I’d rather use her on champion.

Here’s my field effects other than irida and summer steven. According to filter.

[grand trout]

I mean true you can replicate perma field with Marnie anyways

[wide adder]

I prob shoulda screened with move level tab but oh well

[grand trout]

In that case you can use another hailer for steven (preferably eggmon if you plan to use the other candices for the other rounds, just pair them with a broken support)

[wide adder]

How big is normal Candice nuke ?

[grand trout]

People say it's insane

Personally I'm a bit underwhelmed even with ex, but hey

[wide adder]

Hm. I don’t plan to ex just might grid possibly

[safe lichen]

As a returning player after a 2 month break is it best to do 10K master mode or nah?

[nocturne pawn]

its good for a 3*

[grand steppe]

Do you have Sinnoh MM unlocked?

Or do you need the type medal?

and you can clear up to as many points as your comfortable with,
we can help as long as you provide context.

[wide adder]

Tried this. Sides survive too long

Too much aoe

[grand steppe]

What round is this?

[wide adder]

R1

[grand steppe]

and how much strength/hp/def is active? (if this is master mode)

[wide adder]

I think it’s +10 str total

Here’s the params I was trying

[north crown]

can't candice presync by herself alr? this should be ez

[grand steppe]

Probably not at +10.

[wide adder]

Mid died just fine but the sides are oof

[north crown]

then just go full presync

oh sides lmao

[wide adder]

Whole team in orange and red by time mids dead cause of aoe spam

So I only get like three turns to live

[north crown]

spam pots on candice/susteven

[nocturne pawn]

try using candice on the sides

[wide adder]

Mid will not die if I do that

[nocturne pawn]

denial to help queue moves so you dont get blown up

[north crown]

how about reserve icicle crash for sides

perhaps you could slip in a turn denial

[wide adder]

The funny (bad) thing is the turn denial often happens when it’s time for Sonia sync lol

So I’m just waiting to queue sync then a flinch happens

And I’m like “that was pointless”

[north crown]

oh yeah sonia denies quadqueue

mb

uh idrk what to say other than bring someone else

[nocturne pawn]

id use hilbert here

if you can

doesnt prevent quad queue and faster offensive buffing

[wide adder]

I don’t think I’ll live without the def buffs but I’ll try

My Sonia has adren

So I use that to fix quad

[nocturne pawn]

well i see one problem and thats sonia is weak to ground

[wide adder]

My other atk buff supports

Bruh

[manic kiln]

Same team my steven is 1/5 too. I flinch the left to get quadqueue. After taking down mid with sync just flinch 1 of the 2 side and you’re good. Only use 1 potion and no tm mpr

[grand trout]

Do you have scteven?

[wide adder]

Limited pairs are visible here

[grand trout]

Hmmm

[wide adder]

Planning to pull zoroark next week

Would grab ssn but don’t have spare gem unless zoroark spares me

Cause n fav trainer but seasonal rerun less often

[grand trout]

just use grimsley dark pulse if you want special dark smh

[wide adder]

I have the type fully solved lmao I just want it because it’s n with zoroark

Fav mon and fav trainer

it’s impossible for me to willingly skip such a pair when I know I can get it

Took a lot of tries but got a clear where mid fell without needing Candice sync. So I could nuke a side instead

Now I gotta find out order I’m handling the rest…

Proud that I got use out of summer Steven outside of a gauntlet tho

[noble plaza]

okay so i decided to go 2k presync off type params versus Lucian and I'm FINALLY done with him

I probably could've done 2.5k but I was tired and wanted to make it a bit easier on myself

thanks everyone who gave me a hand!

now onto Aaron. My current team against him is Sabrina, Hau, and BP Morty. I might have to EX one of them though

[wide adder]

Ehe…you might have an easier time off typing than using hau from my experience with electric Aaron

Unless it’s Tapu hau

[noble plaza]

I was actually able to do it haha. It was normal Hau but he was EX'd so that was probably part of it.

[wide adder]

Maybe part of it is when I tried I had to attempt Sabrina hau and volkner. And my Sabrina was dying iirc lol

[noble plaza]

my Sabrina kept dying when I first attempted it on round 2 but for round 4 she was fine???

idk what happened haha

[wide adder]

Sometimes you just get lucky on what moves they pick

[noble plaza]

maybe

[wide adder]

[noble plaza]

hmm not sure who to use against Cynthia. I'm probably going Solgaleo as my DPS

i already used SS Blue and Roxanne

[dark osprey]

He's more than enough for Cynthia

[noble plaza]

oh sweet

[dark osprey]

Can just put in a special defense buffer like Misty

[noble plaza]

im worried about the gauge

[dark osprey]

Isn't he power boosted?

[noble plaza]

yeah

[dark osprey]

Then his gauge is kinda fine

If you feel otherwise, can bring in Marley

[noble plaza]

i haven't had many opportunities to use PB Solgaleo so I don't remember haha

[dark osprey]

Or Skyla if available

[noble plaza]

Skyla was my first thought as well

[old orchid]

I see Lucian

Have you used Sycamore yet?

[noble plaza]

no I have not

I was also thinking Lucian

[old orchid]

Lucian is great to setup for Brainteaser

[noble plaza]

Unfortunately my Sycamore isn't EX'd

[old orchid]

I assume no power boost as well?

That doesnt matter much, since Sycamore is there for being special tank + Impervious

In Solgaleo grid you need to pick Sharp Entry

[noble plaza]

Oh you're right!

jesus these grids get so complicated and annoying to keep track of.

[old orchid]

Actually Bede is better

He also debuffs spatk

I didnt notice him at first

[noble plaza]

instead of Lucian?

[old orchid]

Yeah

Sycamore already buffs gauge and Cynthia uses special moves

So Bede it is

[noble plaza]

does this solgaleo grid look good?
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/900001/79100?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBgkLDA0OEBMWGRswMTIzNDU

it worked like a charm! thanks a million!

this was a painful CS 🥴

[old orchid]

Congrats

Next month is Hoenn means more painful

[noble plaza]

Silver would be good to use for Drake right? Although he doesn't benefit much from Hail at 1/5

[zealous karma]

Ye he's good for drake or can use Hala

[old orchid]

Off typing is always a good option

[noble plaza]

oh no that was the plan

I was just wondering which teams I'm definitely having Ice pairs on
(Also I'm super excited to use SS Silver haha)

Would it be better to save Silver for Round 4 because of the params?

[old orchid]

Yes

Note that Drake also gets boosted

So reset if he spams EQ too much

[noble plaza]

Oh I didn't even think of that oops

maaaybe it wouldn't be a good idea to R4 Drake in that case

[dark osprey]

R1 Drake seems like a decent option since you would have to set hail only once then

[noble plaza]

ye

that was my plan

would it be better to save SS Silver for later or just use him now?

[dark osprey]

I guess ghetsis is good for Marnie

Ghetsis Sycamore and if possible surgechu for paralysis and defense buffs would actually be a solid team

[noble plaza]

👀

[dark osprey]

Oh wait. Your Sycamore is not EXed right

[noble plaza]

oh no he is not

[dark osprey]

Then not much point syncing with him

[noble plaza]

yeah thats true

[dark osprey]

So can replace him with another support probably buffing special defense

[noble plaza]

SS Blue can buff special defense but that's unreliable.

Aaron also can

[old orchid]

No sync = no buffs tho

Sycamore is good, even without EX

[noble plaza]

true

[dark osprey]

Ah. But if ss Blue is EXed, it would be better I guess

[noble plaza]

he is

[old orchid]

Yeah ofc

[dark osprey]

Can get in that safety net which really helps

[noble plaza]

would it be too unreliable to use him?

[dark osprey]

No. Honestly don't need much special defense buffs because ghetsis can debuff as well

[noble plaza]

Oh i forgot about that

[dark osprey]

Can replace surgechu then with another status inflicter to counter Marnies healthy advantage

[noble plaza]

Should I save Silver for R4 to take advantage of the param or use him against R1 Drake

[dark osprey]

Since your Hala is EXed, you could use him, a budget hail user and a decent support to get through Drake quite easily

On r1

[noble plaza]

do you mean Silver?

cause Hala isn't EX'd for me haha

[dark osprey]

Silver can be used on other rounds I guess.

Oh sorry. My bad

[noble plaza]

nah nbd

[dark osprey]

Can try with silver on r1 then

You'd need to get rid of the sandstorm either ways

[noble plaza]

oh no question about that

i just don't want to waste a good pair and regret it haah

[dark osprey]

True

But Drake and Marnie are the only ones you need to worry about

[noble plaza]

true

[dark osprey]

So Silver and ghetsis for those two then

[noble plaza]

that makes sense

[dark osprey]

Just make sure while using silver against Drake, the first move of the game should be weather change

[noble plaza]

makes sense

[dark osprey]

So that Silver does not go below full health

[noble plaza]

Oh I forgot about that part haha

[dark osprey]

Also whenever you see an earthquake can just queue B triple axel then

[noble plaza]

I should probably bring a crit buffer so Silver doesn't have to rely on his B Move just to get his crit up

[dark osprey]

That's good but you don't want to miss out on that -3 sync countdown acceleration

[noble plaza]

oh true

this is the rest of my roster btw

I'm probably going to bring Abomasnow Candice for the hail

[dark osprey]

Oh. He's actually good if gridded and can nuke one of the stages for you

[noble plaza]

wait really?

[dark osprey]

Yeah Candice nuke is very effective

[dark osprey]

Can try and put an Adaman off type team together as well I guess

Honestly for SS Silver, maybe just getting a rain or sun setter as well would be fine

[noble plaza]

That's fair, he doesn't really need hail at 1/5

...so who do I put on this drake team

[zealous karma]

He does also kind need accuracy buffs so smth like Aaron’s great

[noble plaza]

Aaron can buff accuracy?

[zealous karma]

Ye

[tired sleet]

(At 3/5 with Precision Pals)

[noble plaza]

Ohh precision pals right

Mine is at 5/5. Aaron really liked me last VA

[zealous karma]

Be thankful it wasn’t pre Pb Fantina

[noble plaza]

Woah Fantina got 2 grid expansions?

(I don't know if this is more common)

[paper summit]

no? just the one

unless you are counting her receiving an EX

[tired sleet]

Technically her going from no grid to a grid was a grid expansion

[paper summit]

sure buddy

[noble plaza]

Bulbapedia says that her expansion was made available in October 2020 and was further expanded in December 2022

I'm just going off on what bulbapedia tells me mate

[paper summit]

then that's what they are referring to

[noble plaza]

Ah

Mb

[paper summit]

the date she actually got a grid, and then the actual expansion

[noble plaza]

Were grids not a thing when poma first came out or were they limited to certain pairs.

[paper summit]

iirc only 2 pairs have received 2, Cynthia and Lance

and in Lance's case it was both at the same time

[tired sleet]

They were added after about 5 months into the game

And only a few pairs had them at the time (the first gridded pairs were MCPika, Flannery, and Flint)

[noble plaza]

Interesting choices

Well I guess there wasn't much available

[tired sleet]

The first few grids were only for story pairs

[noble plaza]

Still I'm surprised it wasn't a core part of the game since day one. Grids add so much to the game

[tired sleet]

And this was before move candies became common, so there was a special fire type event that let you get a dupe for the 2 of them

[noble plaza]

Ohhh neat!

who would my third member vs Drake be?

[dark osprey]

So it's Ss silver, Aaron and maybe Winona for rain and flinch

Or tech gyarados as well

[proud axle]

Grids did not exist in any form at launch
My earliest memory of grids was a few months in, where farming orbs was fucking horrible back then (there's a reason s are named Co-op Orbs, and you had to actually use a sync move or they wouldn't even drop)
Most pairs were given "grids" that consisted solely of the six 0-Energy nodes around the center. (And I think some pairs didn't even get that much.) When this was changed to a proper grid as we know them now, this was called a grid "expansion."

No grid --> 6node core = "now has a sync grid"
6node core --> actual grid = "grid expansion"
The extra nodes on the left and right? The first pair to get those is SSBlue, right around his launch (first anniversary, I think), because his grid was really underwhelming without them.

After that, no pair got extra nodes until the Villain Arc for either Sinnoh or Johto, I think.

[safe lichen]

Yes

[twin flare]

How come you don't have Solgaleo?

[sick inlet]

Solgaleo is a steel type. Won't appear in the filters of fighting types

[twin flare]

Riiight, Cynthia was quite easily beaten with Solgaleo

[full mesa]

Ok boomer

[lunar meadow]

Pikachu, Infernape, and.... Torkoal, maybe.

They added three fully sync grids to free units when the sync grids were launched

Infernape is now one of the worst units in the game because it's a mixed attacker with no direction, and a bad grid.

Pikachu went from a terrible unit to the best healer and support in the game thanks to potion MPR tiles

[proud axle]

Flannery went from zero to hero for a little while

[urban cave]

MC Pika is good?

[proud axle]

Was.

[mellow linden]

Decent utility via Potions

[old orchid]

now its just an utility pair in LG

[proud axle]

For an absolute beginner, MChu is still griddable for free and has gauge-efficiency during a phase of the game where that matters

[lunar meadow]

MC Pikachu was the only unit with more than 2 potions for a while.

Until Swanna got grid.

Potionchu and Redzard were the key to day 1 battle villas

[proud axle]

Until Silver became permanent, Flannery was sometimes recommended for beginners to grid just from how much BP-- and how many multipliers-- her Ember could get

1bar move hitting almost as hard as a 3bar, IIRC

Even back then, we were more impressed with Flannery's grid than with Flint's

[lunar meadow]

We had very poor move gauge support and speed buffers.

Damage per move gauge was a valuable stat, and Torkoal's Ember was referred to as a "machine gun" build because it hit very hard for one gauge

Now, people want 4 gauge moves on everything

[full mesa]

3. 4 is too hard to maintain on dual striker

[lunar meadow]

A 3-bar and a 4-bar is a common combo for dual striker comps

[latent eagle]

Is there an order the ice CS the rounds should be done?

Cause tbh im a lil lost on how to tackle this

[mellow linden]

Not particularly, only major thing is that you may want to avoid facing Drake on round 4

[vast dome]

Any recommended strikers for any rounds?

[vestal onyx]

for first time master mode, what are some points and debuffs that i should take?

[quaint solar]

If your talking about Pasio. Google thegamingeevee F2P run on YouTube.

[vestal onyx]

is there a place wher i can look up on this?

[old orchid]

check the pins for 850 points param sets

they are good starting goal

[old orchid]

we dont know your roster so please show it first

[vast dome]

This is my first time doing a Special Stadium. Do I need to use all 18 types to get a special medal for clearing it?

[old orchid]

no

[vast dome]

OK

These are all my ice pairs

I think I'll only use one or two of them

Off-type the rest

[old orchid]

Hala, Ghetsis, both Candice and Summer Steven

5 pairs for 5 stages

well since you want to offtype so at least save Ghetsis on Marnie

Hala and Candice on Drake

[vast dome]

Alrighty-o

[vast dome]

But which Candice

[old orchid]

OG

grid her for nuke if you can

[vast dome]

ok

[latent eagle]

Gonna be honest, thinking about using the pika’s/poison stall for ice CS as idk what to really do lol

I do have a few good ice types but i still feel like i might struggle with them

[old orchid]

[nocturne pawn]

ghetsis hala ss n

then pikas and one off type

boom you’re done

[old orchid]

dude you have boosted Ghetsis, SS Silver, both Candice, SS N and Hala

[nocturne pawn]

wait he has ss silver too 💀

[grim bison]

What CS stages summon zone

[old orchid]

+pomatools

[frozen depot]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs

[old orchid]

Champion Stadium menu

[latent eagle]

Yeah I said I have good ice types but I might struggle as idk who to team up who with who

[old orchid]

you know the basic teambuilding guide right?

[nocturne pawn]

the 4 i listed can carry damage on their own

[old orchid]

try making teams for these Ice types then send here so we will give feedback

[quaint solar]

Google thegamingeevee on YouTube F2P run.

[nocturne pawn]

just use the proper supports for them and hail if necessary

[nocturne pawn]

thats not exactly helping them

they definitely have better units than that

[latent eagle]

I’m literally following them but they use EXs I don’t have for the teams, that’s why I’m here

[grim bison]

When will PoMatools be updated to have the CS for next month

[nocturne pawn]

💀

[grim bison]

It's still not there for me

[nocturne pawn]

probably next week

[old orchid]

please refrain from helping if you dont even know how to help

[nocturne pawn]

but you can just look at the individual stages

for the weeks

[old orchid]

Hoenn CS is a rerun

[grim bison]

If he uses metal burst and I don't attack, will it wait for me to attack

[nocturne pawn]

i mean probably?

but you can sync to stop metal burst from going off

[grim bison]

So hypothetically, once it uses metal burst, I can make the battle go on forever

[nocturne pawn]

maybe

actually wait

it’ll probably just leave the counterattacking position and sync

[swift swan]

Can the AI do that?

[quaint solar]

Your list shows that you have frosslass EX

[swift swan]

Hmm, maybe

[nocturne pawn]

id imagine it would

[proud axle]

Looks like he does it right after sync though, so it's several turns until the next

[swift swan]

There are other f2p resources. And you don't even have to be strictly f2p. And most of the time EX isn't necessary

[nocturne pawn]

because that would make the fight too trivial

[nocturne pawn]

oh thats what the +1 means

i mean if its post sync you probably wont even see it lmao

[proud axle]

Sync -1 is right before, Sync +1 is right after

[latent eagle]

Yeah EX frosslass but not EX pryce or EX other candice, like I said they have EXs I don't have that's why im here

[nocturne pawn]

stop copying guides 1 to 1

you have several very strong ice pairs

[swift swan]

They're guides for a reason

[old orchid]

i already told you to build teams by yourself, then send them here and we might give feedbacks on them (if some are not perfect)

[proud axle]

I didn't EX either version of Candice and it was fine

[latent eagle]

That's why im here

[latent eagle]

I'm doing that I was just replying to a message

[nocturne pawn]

i already told you

ghetsis ss n hala and ss silver

[proud axle]

Well okay one of those was not fine but I'm pretty sure it's because her co-striker was Oak

[nocturne pawn]

they’re all able to be the main damage dealer

for a stage

and you have pikas

[proud axle]

Which stage are they on, actually

Agatha, Koga, and Shauntal are piss-easy (they're from the three easiest leagues) and can be offtyped
Drake and Marnie are the real threats here

[latent eagle]

Haven’t started yet, just trying to build teams to actually do this

[proud axle]

I beat Marnie with Janine(Ariados), Ghetsis, and Sycamore

[nocturne pawn]

off typing drake might be the easiest way

but regardless

[proud axle]

Poison disables the Healthy Advantage passive and then Venom Drench ruins her stats for Ghetsis to nuke her for 33k

[latent eagle]

Here’s what I did for teams ig

Blanks are bc idk who to put

[proud axle]

Morty and Ghetsis in the same team... Hope you weren't building for Cold Snap

[old orchid]

show your roster as well

[nocturne pawn]

hala wants a crit support and speed buffer

[old orchid]

*a gauge support

[nocturne pawn]

its up here gakon

[proud axle]

For Hala, I used Kiawe and Candice(Abomasnow) in round 1 and it worked fine

[nocturne pawn]

personally i dont care for slow wind up but yeah gauge support is a better way of saying it

[proud axle]

Candice sync nukes the center twice, Hala handles the turn-to-turn DPS

[old orchid]

i expected you to build full teams before sending but its okay

[proud axle]

Hail and Kiawe's Quick Tempo are permanent on round 1

[latent eagle]

I literally said blanks are bc I don’t know who to put

[proud axle]

Err, am I being ignored

[nocturne pawn]

possibly

also why are you using sycamore with ss n

freeze shock is physical

[latent eagle]

No I’m just doing multiple things at once atm, christ

[latent eagle]

I’m literally just throwing teams together bc I don’t know what to do

[proud axle]

Drake: Hala, Candice, Kiawe if you have him but he can be replaced
Agatha: throw a pikachu at it
Koga: throw a pikachu at it
Shauntal: I have no idea how SSN works but he can probably do it
Marnie: Sycamore Ghetsis Janine with permanent fields

[swift swan]

I'm sure Gakon, Taiyo, and Gigafreak are all cooking different things atm so, while I have some opinions, I'll hold it for now

[proud axle]

It's hard to really advise on Agatha/Koga/Shauntal because they barely have gimmicks to counter

They're easy.

[swift swan]

SS N does a lot of two-turn shenanigans

[proud axle]

If not SSN, then SS Silver (whom I am also unfamiliar with)

[nocturne pawn]

honestly the only fights you really have to team build for are drake and marnie

[swift swan]

Why not both

[old orchid]

nah im out :SilverLeaveChat:

[nocturne pawn]

i would save ghetsis or ss n for marnie

[proud axle]

Maybe. Is SSN phys?

[nocturne pawn]

then use one of the candices for drake

preferably r1

[swift swan]

1/5 ungridded SS Silver destroyed Agatha very easily for me

[nocturne pawn]

yes sync and freeze shock are phys

ice beam is there but why are you using that

[proud axle]

Excellent, then the right support will work for SSN and SSSilver together for funni overkill

[nocturne pawn]

champ marnie was designed for ss n

so like

it should be very simple

[swift swan]

Okay. For now, Ducydoo look at this. Are you willing to offtype with rats or do you want to strictly ontype everything (don't recommend, you don't need to)

[proud axle]

You could put SSN+SSSilver together with SSMorty against Drake

[nocturne pawn]

i think id just use rats against drake really

make it super effortless

[swift swan]

Weak to ground?

[sinful garden]

you can throw hala at drake

[nocturne pawn]

if they can off region lucas ebe i think they can do drake

[sinful garden]

its an easy clear

[proud axle]

Don't both Pikachus have endurance and/or damage guard

[nocturne pawn]

yes

[swift swan]

Of course, but don't really expect every user to be able to ignore drake's gimmicks like that, even with very broken pairs

[nocturne pawn]

sst has healing in terrain and ash has like 4 endures

[proud axle]

Then the ground weakpoint isn't a dealbreaker

[nocturne pawn]

well you can sync with red hes physical

they’re both self sufficient so you can run a weather setter

[proud axle]

Oh, just put Redchu with, like, a rain summoner

[swift swan]

The hala and candice core vs drake is safer imo

[proud axle]

And that's Drake countered

I would still prefer Hala/Candice

[swift swan]

If you want to throw pikachus at other stages, sure

[proud axle]

But Redchu/Rain(orSun) can work

[swift swan]

But anyway. recap again what we have rn and wait for ducydoo to respond

[sinful garden]

yea i ran that and it was a comfortable clear

a decent tank with crit support for 3rd

[proud axle]

I always was fond of Lightball Pikachu in the main series...

[latent eagle]

So here’s what I got, kinda just threw whatever w/ N bc again idk tf I’m doing, which Candice or Janine was never Specified so I took a guess and with the pika’s you can really just throw anything w/ them lol

[proud axle]

Hala/Candice/Kiawe vs Drake round 1
Grid Hala for hail if you can, don't sweat it if not
Grid Candice for a full sync snipe build; she's going to be using solely Hail, TMs, and two sync moves (both aimed at Drake)
Nobody needs EX
Agatha/Koga/Shauntal: do whatever, they ez
Sycamore Ghetsis Janine with perma fields vs Marnie
Grid Janine for max Hostile Environment, all else is optional
Grid Ghetsis for Glaciate accuracy and sync nuke multipliers; if you have his grid upgrade, also give him Sharp Entry so he can skip a TM
Sycamore grids for Moonblast On A Roll, Team Sharp Entry if you have his grid upgrade, and Adrenaline
Janine uses Cross Poison once on Marnie and then spams Venom Drench without even bothering to use TMs or even poisoning the sidekicks, we only care about Marnie being debuffed
Ghetsis uses TMs until his crit is maxed, then one Noble Roar on Marnie just in case and then spam Glaciate
Sycamore uses his TM immediately (perma fields!) and then Moonblasts when he can afford it or Dazzling Gleams when he can't.
Sycamore syncs first, Ghetsis syncs second. You could knock Marnie out before she syncs, but with her stats ruined this bad-- and +6 SpDef on your team-- I don't foresee it hurting you even if she does get it out

I said Abomasnow repeatedly, and I said Ariados the first time

Drake is nigh-immune to Frosslass. Wise Entry ×2.

[latent eagle]

Probably missed them in the swarm of messages, it’s easy to lose things when multiple ppl are talking

[proud axle]

Janine's Ariados can get a 100% poison rate to disable Healthy Advantage and has Venom Drench to ruin Marnie's stats for Ghetsis' grid multipliers. Also ruins Marnie's speed so she can't make use of Ramming or Inertia

[swift swan]

Ok just to make sure
Hala team vs Drake (change that Candice to Abomasnow)
Ghetsis team vs Marnie (change that Janine to the Ariados one). Ghetsis should still TM twice to max crit.
The other three are interchangeable

Make sure to check your parameters. Pay attention to physical/special damage reduction depending on your damage dealer, and the standard dmg reduction when you're running pikachus

[latent eagle]

What's the candice full sync snipe build?

[old orchid]

#1009587872342478908 pins

[proud axle]

Edited with a full battle plan

Ghetsis/Janine/Sycamore makes Marnie comically harmless

[latent eagle]

The google doc is a literal pain to go through to find grids

[old orchid]

Dont ping me please.

[proud axle]

Has Ducydoo been forgetting to unping while replying?

https://tenor.com/view/discord-reply-discord-reply-off-discord-reply-gif-22150762

[quaint solar]

They really should have that off at default

[proud axle]

Agree

[old orchid]

you know you can just use the search function? Ctrl + F on PC or press some simple buttons on mobile

[latent eagle]

No I did not know that, that's why it's a pain to go through!

[proud axle]

Was it not possible to fit Follow-Through and Super Prep in the same grid...? I don't think I had Super Prep in mine but I could see it being really good

[swift swan]

The /pair command on poryphone will also show recommended grids

[old orchid]

you can but you have to give up on Heavy Hail 2

doesnt matter much if you use her with crit support

[proud axle]

...Y'know what, that's worth it

[swift swan]

I just take follow through and ignore super prep

[proud axle]

I did that and it was fine but I also hadn't rechecked the grid before I did it. I think I'd have preferred the Follow-Through + Super Prep build for this particular fight

[swift swan]

Anyway, my phone's dying and i need to go to sleep. Good luck everyone

[sick inlet]

All of those have good usage though. Not necessarily going to need to use them all, but they can all put in the work in a way or another.

[wary obsidian]

What param do you use for ash and sst red

For off type

[mellow linden]

You’d basically use your preferred off-type parameters and replace Phsyical/Special Damage Reduction 8 with either Strength 1 or Max HP 2

[wary obsidian]

Oh. What about tech/striker take more damage

[mellow linden]

Not ideal since that would leave Ash or Red more vulnerable to AoE, but depending on the stage taking one of those + something else to make up the last 50 points would probably be doable

[wary obsidian]

I see. Thanks

[mellow linden]

This is assuming you’re using both on the same team

If it’s just one or the other than it’s just your preferred off-type parameters with no alterations

[quaint solar]

They need to make the striker version 300 points or more I swear

[mellow linden]

Teams without Strike pairs are extremely common

There’s a reason only the Support one is more than 50 points

[quaint solar]

You telling me you got 5 teams each week without a striker 🤔

[mellow linden]

Techs are a sliding scale of combining utility and damage. Many Techs have extremely high damage output

Such as the upcoming Oleana

Or SS Erika, for an existing Tech

[dark osprey]

Just in case you need to use SSN for Marnie. Better to just bring in an EX support. Can use Sycamore instead of leaf too and any defense debuffer

[latent eagle]

This team doesn’t wanna work I feel like I might be doing something wrong but idk what? The parameters are correct so—

[mellow linden]

Is Ghetsis getting max crit?

[latent eagle]

Yep

[mellow linden]

I assume Janine’s there to act as Poison inflictor

[quaint solar]

You have psyduck instead 🤔

[mellow linden]

I’m reasonably sure they’re not Poison stalling with that

[latent eagle]

Used

[latent eagle]

Mm-mm poison state drop

[dark osprey]

Maybe try sync nuke grid?

[latent eagle]

I'm doing this

[mellow linden]

Is Ghetsis your only Ice damage-dealer left? It’s fine if he is, but you might have better options if there’s some Ice types you haven’t used yet

[dark osprey]

Ghetsis should work with the EX and especially with Janine helping with setting up the nuke

[latent eagle]

I do have N but he might be harder to use for this

[dark osprey]

Oh. Can use both the kyurems together. Will be fun

[mellow linden]

Honestly, yeah. Can grid Ghetsis for Hostile Environment to act as Paralysis inflictor

[dark osprey]

SS N also would try and get paralysis

[hearty lynx]

the stat lowering effect in round 2 this week means x2?

[latent eagle]

Oh DUH im stupid thats usually what I do, I forgot I was on the last stage so I can use both N and ghetsis

[quaint solar]

What about EX Morty 🤔

[mellow linden]

Not sure on that one. I think it might be +50% effectiveness?

[proud axle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/376011497861808129/1123517295881363466/Screenshot_20230628-032224.png

Look at those happy full healthbars

Marnie can't hurt this team

[hearty lynx]

oh i see

[latent eagle]

Okay cool! then why am I dying?!

[proud axle]

What moves are you using in what order?

And what parameters for that matter

[latent eagle]

Exactly what you've written down and pre sync para bc you didn't say which one to use

[proud axle]

Like, if you left No Stat Reductions on, I can see it thwarting this team conpletely

Or if you forgot to swap from Special Reduction 8 to Phys Reduction 8

[mellow linden]

Regardless, it sounds like you’ll be fine if you already use SS N + Ghetsis regularly and plan to switch to that setup

If something goes wrong there or you wanna try to stick with the Ghetsis/Sycamore/Janine team we can investigate what happened in more detail

[proud axle]

No Status Conditions would also thwart it

I'd be surprised if you had those on tho

Using a Venom Drench strategy but having No Status and No stat Reductions is... Uhhhh.

[latent eagle]

These are my parameters but ill try w/ SS N and ghestsis later CS really kills the battery on my iPad so it needs to charge ☠️

[wide adder]

Which physical support for this team? Or should I replace gladion with a def debuffer and lean on hala

[mellow linden]

Hala can definitely act as a solo damage-dealer, so honestly it’s personal preference

[proud axle]

That should work. I'd probably use similar, though you could take No Weather/Zone/Terrain

Turn 1: World is Vast, Cross Poison, Mwahaha
Turn 2: Moonblast, Venom Drench(spam), Mwahaha or Noble Roar
Turn 3: Moonblast, Venom Drench, Glaciate or Noble Roar
Sycamore sync
Turn 4: Glaciate, Venom Drench, Adrenaline means no need to quadqueue
Turn 5: Glaciate, Venom Drench, Moonblast
Turn 6: Glaciate, Venom Drench, Moonblast
Ghetsis sync

This is 9 gauges per turn but you have perma accel field, +6 speed, and the gauge accel round modifier

Marnie might survive Ghetsis' sync, but I can't imagine she can hurt you with her own sync when she has -5 SpA and negative Speed

If I had to change anything from those parameters, maybe HP2 --> Str1

[dark osprey]

True that. That team is solid. -6 spAtk while we have +6 special defense too

[latent eagle]

Have no idea why I wasn’t full health like giga was but hey I did it

[zealous karma]

We’re you

Triple queueing?

[mellow linden]

If it works it works, so as long as you were triple queueing no point dwelling on it

[latent eagle]

Yeah I was triple queuing

[mellow linden]

Then yeah, unless you pull out that same team again later (which is unlikely since that team was specifically suggested for this stage) no reason to worry about it

[zealous karma]

Well if smth like that happens again you can always send a video of what you’re doing and we can tell you what you did wrong

[latent eagle]

I'm aware of sending videos but I was just trying that team one last time before I moved onto SS N and ghetsis but I won somehow (+ it's a pain to send videos as I don't have nitro)

[rotund lagoon]

We say YouTube or Streamable is an option too

[nocturne pawn]

this server has boosts

the size limit shouldnt be an issue unless its like 4k hd for 20 mins

[latent eagle]

I ain't posting a video to YouTube just to delete it later, also tf is streamable? I just post it to tiktok and share it here but it's still a hassle to jump through hoops to send video

I've tried sending videos multiple times in this server and it never allows me saying I need nitro

[nocturne pawn]

they’re below 100mb right

[zealous karma]

It doesn’t allow me to send a video thays beyond 2 minutez

[nocturne pawn]

cringe

[latent eagle]

Idk??? I'd assume so since im just screen recording, idk how video size works

[rotund lagoon]

https://streamable.com/

[vestal onyx]

from the pinned. could some please explain what are these?

[nocturne pawn]

different play stykes

pre sync is koing before mid can sync

post sync is tanking a sync then killing

poison stall is stalling with defensive parameters like hp and defense with a defense buffer bad poisoner and debuffer

[vestal onyx]

how can i tell if my team is pre sync or post sync?

[grand steppe]

Are you KOing the middle before they sync? If yes, then you are in pre-sync clear.
If not, you're post-sync.

[nocturne pawn]

or you can be me running pre sync params but surviving the sync anyway

we call that botched

[grand steppe]

You can't really look at a team and say, yep, this will pre-sync. If you set too obstructive of parameters then it might not happen.

You just need to experiment.

[nocturne pawn]

i mean thats probably me taking too much strength

i dont trust myself with lowered sync countdown so

[vestal onyx]

eusine is with stonk ass on type damage

HAHAH

[quaint solar]

Taking all Strength is a standard

[vestal onyx]

i just tried, i guess it's just how much damage you can dish out?

what does strength do? in comparision to hp?

natureally raiseing their strenght also raises hp?

[mellow linden]

Strength increases the opponents' levels

[grand steppe]

Strength raises every stat, most importantly defense.

[mellow linden]

Basically, think of it this way:

• Do you need to KO the opponent before they Sync? Pre-Sync paramaters.

• Do you not care whether the opponent Syncs or not? Post-Sync parameters.

• Would you prefer to just outlast the opponent with DoTs? Poison stall parameters.

This is only for 1500+ points per stage, if you're just doing 850 points per stage there's just one standard parameter set (or rather, one for on-type and one for off-type)

[vestal onyx]

ah i'm attempting thr 2500 ones

so far i got water down so 3 more to go i guess

[mellow linden]

I don't recommend jumping directly into 2.5k if you're new to Master Mode

[vestal onyx]

oh? since i'm going to use my well built unit anyways, wouldn't it be abit more beneficial to go on 2.5k?

[mellow linden]

850 points per stage will get you all the most important rewards with little to no difficulty increase compared to Hard Mode, and 1500 points per stage isn't too much of a difficulty spike, so it's generally best to start at one of those and work your way up

Past 4250 points total (850 points per stage) the rewards are more luxury

And grids matter way more for 2.5k than they do for Hard Mode

[grand steppe]

You can always clear 4250 first, and then go back and go for 12.5k or however high you want.

[vestal onyx]

since i have eusine and zinnia, i was planning to grab 5k just from them both? would that be a bad idea?

[grand steppe]

You just want to make sure you have the reset option, and not get stuck with all of your OP units locked (if you're new).

[mellow linden]

Yeah, if you find 4250 is too easy you can reset and do harder point values for more rewards

[nocturne pawn]

is it weird to say that 2k felt harder than 2.5k

[vestal onyx]

apart from bonus rewards from points are there anyu rewards for first clears in master mode?

[mellow linden]

No, it shares the weekly 1st clear rewards with Hard Mode

[vestal onyx]

i see, i'll give it a go and experiment

thanks for the tips!

[noble plaza]

(there's a reason s are named Co-op Orbs, and you had to actually use a sync move or they wouldn't even drop)
oh yeah that confused me for a bit

thanks for the poma histroy lesson!

[proud axle]

Think about when you last saw someone even use a sync in co-op

The fight's usually over before turn 9 so you have to stall
And then you have to hope you sync before someone else's sync kills the last enemy

[noble plaza]

wait Silver was a temporary sync pair?

[proud axle]

Legendary Adventures used to be a set of periodically rerunning events.

If you missed Giovanni, you'd need to wait for a rerun. And then farm the co-op stage a massive number of times for currency to get his dupes and s

Same for all the others

They became permanent around the time the Villain Arc was announced, as many of the events in the Villain Arc build on plot developments in the Legendary Adventures

I kinda suspect that the Legendary Adventures' EXs and Power Boosts will also become permanent somehow, around when "whatever comes after the Villain Arc" is announced-- or perhaps soon after. I can't prove it, though.

[noble plaza]

is it worth using BP Candice on any other round besides R1? I already completed R1 but I don't know if I should utilize BP Candice on any other round or just off type or something

[noble plaza]

ohhhh. similar to the EXs and Power Boosts then.

[mellow linden]

She can still work on other rounds

[sacred mountain]

Is there a way to check which types I've already used

In hard mode

[mellow linden]

Hall of Fame, iirc

[sacred mountain]

Das locked

[north crown]

there should also be an ingame tracker available at the bottom of the screen before you set into a cs fight

[zealous karma]

Ther s normally a button here

The game also has a bar on the bottom that shows a type of you haven’t used it and shows nothing if you’ve used said type already

[sacred mountain]

0/18

[zealous karma]

If you need assistance don’t be afraid to ask you can show your roster

[sacred mountain]

Is there even a point in going for types now , next reset is already hoenn

[north crown]

you gain at max 15 types for next sinnoh cs

[zealous karma]

It’ll get you a head start on whenever it comes back and you’ll be missing out on Ex resources

[sacred mountain]

I'll try to do 10-12 types ig

[undone brook]

is special stadium just a collection of existing cs stages except for the champ battle

[halcyon sail]

So far it has been like that

[manic mica]

Need help

[old orchid]

send your whole roster by using this site

+tracker

[frozen depot]

Link : https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/
Use this video guide to properly filter your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[manic mica]

Here is my roster

Exes and dupes might be innacurate cause i was kinda lazy to check

[toxic cobalt]

Have you tried poisoning them

[versed meteor]

Solgaleo gets wiped by one earthquake fuck this game

[hearty lynx]

Bertha is a pain for me

can't seem to get it

[nocturne pawn]

she has head start so its hard to get two syncs if you’re not using denial strats

[versed meteor]

Does she have lessen poison

[nocturne pawn]

i mean yes?

[toxic cobalt]

Poisoning Bertha is hard

Really needs your best poison team

[hearty lynx]

it's funny how Bertha always is my hardest challenge

phew got it

[hushed sorrel]

Back doing 12.5k Bertha seems impossible

Any better combos?

I don't get the sleep thing it seems that they still manage to squeeze in moves

[old orchid]

can slot in a defense debuffer and use post sync param in the pins

[hushed sorrel]

Tmr?

Post sync problem is that solgaleo dies to 1 sync

[old orchid]

did he have max defense?

[manic kiln]

it's better to presync with Solgaleo and another dps, you can postsync but he barely survived the sync and have to switch parameter a bit

[old orchid]

Bertha has Head Start 1 so its either post sync or doing turn denial to stall for sync

[hushed sorrel]

OK I'll try 2support

Bertha is hacks ay max Def stiff kills 130 solgaleo 1 sync

[sick inlet]

My solution was to minimize all strength and attack buffs. I made her bulky but I outlived her sync and just potioned Solgaleo to eat any AoE.
Eventually syncing with Solgaleo wiped the stage

[sick inlet]

Do you still have Skyla on you?

This team works (some mpr luck on potion or flinch would be appreciated)

If your Skyla is not 5* you might struggle
Morty does a good job(a better job probably) too if you wanna use him instead

If you want the parameters I will grab em for you in a bit or just @ me

[toxic cobalt]

Absolute flinchhax

[sick inlet]

In this run I only got 2 🥲

[hushed sorrel]

Lame bro I'm max Def post sync still die in 1 sync

[manic kiln]

he's weak to ground, you can give him groundguard or vigilance and still die

[dark osprey]

If you've got Wikstrom gridded, can use him with Hop and a flinch mon. If you don't get the right finches, could just use King shield before Berthas sync

Hop gets increased damage after the enemy's sync so it's a plus

For Solgaleo, you can try surviving the sync with max defenses and then full debuff of attack probably with someone like Mina/ghetsis/Janine venom drench

This isn't really that helpful but is just for the flinch requirement in case doing pre sync. Same principle with Solgaleo instead of Wikstrom.

[grand steppe]

Demonstrating flinch is very helpful for beginners since many don't know the turn order.

Sleep & Flinch is a great way for many players to get a headstart into clearing 2.5k mode since it allows you extra turns to sync and deal damage.

[hushed sorrel]

How do you know its flinched

[grand steppe]

You'll see that icon come up on the enemy.

It has a chance to occur when you use a move with the secondary effect to flinch, or from a pasive such as Staggering.

[hushed sorrel]

I see I don't think I can build that team

The one I'm closest to building is probably poison stall

[grand steppe]

Wikstrom is a 4-star gacha, Molayne is from the Story. and Hop is from Legendary adventures.

Unless you mean you don't have enough

[hushed sorrel]

I don't have enough orbs hahaha

It's still going to take me half a week to grid Sycamore though but seems like poison stall can be used more often

[grand steppe]

You can gain some from the #1012298913279127582 if you have caches setup

[hushed sorrel]

It's all set up

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Honestly wouldn't want to use orbs for Wikstrom and Molayne. I think a decent option would be to try a sleep mon along with Solgaleo and Skyla probably.

[hushed sorrel]

Am I understanding correctly. Your video showed you flinched them almost every turn and even though they lined up their moves they didn't make the move

[dark osprey]

Mainly that the flinch/sleep move should be queued third of the three moves on each turn

If you do that twice and deny the opponents of 2 turns in a sync cycle, you get ahead by one whole turn

[hushed sorrel]

Say for example if I'm using Serena

Do I use hypnosis every turn on the 3rd move?

Or do I wait till it wakes up

[nocturne pawn]

eh no elio or melony is better for cs imo

even if sing is lower bp its single target which helps a lot with nlt getting yourself screwed over when they wake up

either that or im stupid

[hushed sorrel]

What is bp

Like chance of proc?

What is nlt

[paper summit]

BP is base power in this context, the other thing is a typo? idk

wait, hang on

[hushed sorrel]

O not

[nocturne pawn]

wait i didnt mean ti write bp

accuracy

[paper summit]

ok, yeah, that makes more sense given it was referring to sing

[hushed sorrel]

What's the advantage of single target

[nocturne pawn]

more control especially for side denials

with serena you sleep everyone at once

[hushed sorrel]

So would the plan be target mid then side then back to mid?

[nocturne pawn]

pretty much

[hushed sorrel]

Would you skip buffing?

[nocturne pawn]

er no

[marsh crater]

Pasio stadium. So hard to offtype

[zealous karma]

How so?

[north crown]

Flying, Dark, Fighting, Ice, Water
Anything I need to consider for next week?

[nocturne pawn]

drake has wise entry x2 and sand

[noble plaza]

I'm having a bit of trouble vs Agatha. I'm trying to offtype with Cyrus but I already used Winona and May uses a lot of gauge

I mean I do have Tech Gyarados

Nvm Tech Gyarados still struggles with gauge

[north crown]

Just cycle through may’s tms lmao

[compact yoke]

How hard will it be to off type every CS Ice stadium besides 1

[tired sleet]

It would depend on what units you’re using to offtype

[compact yoke]

Like I have enough good units to offtype in normal CS I think

These are the best pairs I got

[toxic cobalt]

Gyro ball can do that much? This is such an impressive clear

[rotund lagoon]

Aurochs taking notes :0

[noble plaza]

well yeah but that relies on MP refreshes

[plush tangle]

If the opponent's Speed is raised it's 104 Power VS Iron Head's 110 (at 5/5) but for 2 gauge

So yeah it's doing damage lol

It also means that every of those nodes is in fact a +8

While on Wikstrom you prefer spamming Head for the flinch, on Jasmine it can be useful (also you always spam gyro ball with her anyway, she's too slow for Iron tail )

With all the gyro ball nodes you get a 136 BP move, basically flare blitz

[weak sleet]

Bertha wants physical steel right? I can't remember what sentry and wise mean.

[toxic cobalt]

Only the sides, so it’s not that important

[zealous karma]

(She also has surging sand 5 on gyro ball)

[plush tangle]

9*

Too bad she has an abysmal Attack stat even post mega

[zealous karma]

Wth

[noble plaza]

Who should I use BP Candice for? I already fought Drake

I'm on round 2

[sick anvil]

Agatha?

[quaint solar]

You killed drake on round 1 🤔 Look at you playA

[sick anvil]

Drake requires Phys so I don’t think BP Candice should be use there anyway

[noble plaza]

Yeah I was thinking her.

[sick anvil]

I think the only 2 hard ones are drake and Bertha

So I say use your best ice unit there

[noble plaza]

Bertha isn't in the pasio cs

[sick anvil]

What’s round 2 parameter?

Oh okay

[noble plaza]

status conditions and other conditions

[sick anvil]

Shauntal

[quaint solar]

Poison stall conditions

[sick anvil]

Mb

[noble plaza]

I saw someone offtype this round with Cyrus and BP Morty but I already used Winona and I'm having trouble using May or Tech Gyarados as subsitutes due to gauge.

i can't even get the hydro pump mgr because I would be sacrificing the crit stuff

[quaint solar]

It's poison stall
It's freeze
That's my suggestion to use in R2

[noble plaza]

yeah thats what i was thinking and why i wanted to use bp candice but I was struggling with team building

[quaint solar]

If your talking about Frosslass then should have best used her in R1
In my opinion.

[noble plaza]

yeah Frosslass.
I could've but I also had SS Silver

[sick anvil]

Ssilver round 3 is better

[quaint solar]

In don't get what SS Silver have to do with infinite hail

[sick anvil]

3 and 4*

Round 1 is good for move gauge acceleration/field

[noble plaza]

Fair.
Kind of too late now though

[sick anvil]

What are the support available for you right now?

Any ex options?

[old orchid]

BP Candice wants dual strike because of her poor performance

[noble plaza]

Oh really?

...that does explain a lot

[sick anvil]

What did you use on round 1?

[old orchid]

You can use Pryce and BP Candice together, with a gauge support

[noble plaza]

SS Silver, Winona, and Aaron

[sick anvil]

I only know ssilver

So maybe roxanne for speed?

[old orchid]

Roxanne isnt the best choice

[sick anvil]

Wait

[old orchid]

She cant buff crit

[sick anvil]

Actually

Sonia

She’s available

But 2/5 hmm

I don’t remember if she can give crit at 2/5 or 3/5

[old orchid]

3/5

Lodge Dawn is a good option, but she needs 3/5

[noble plaza]

looks like it's at 3/5

[sick anvil]

How about Sabrina?

[old orchid]

SS Blue is also a good option

[sick anvil]

With some speed

[noble plaza]

I think I have some of those things you need to level lodge pairs up

[old orchid]

Who did you fight against on R1?

[noble plaza]

(I completely forgot what they're called )

Drake

[sick anvil]

Yea they got the hard one down

[old orchid]

So either Koga or Agatha

[noble plaza]

I'M AT 910 LODGE STONES I LITERALLY NEED 90 MORE TO GET 3/5 DAWN ASDFGNFDS

[sick anvil]

Sabrina?

[old orchid]

Use Sabrina then

[noble plaza]

Sabrina's a good option

[old orchid]

Koga has lowest HP with 17k while Agatha has 23k HP

[quaint solar]

Your suppose to use candy's on the lodge pairs

[noble plaza]

I am?

[sick anvil]

Yes

Or story pairs

[noble plaza]

I mean...lodge stones are more accessible than 4* candies, I thought it'd be a waste

[old orchid]

4* support candies are uncommon so getting lodge support dupes is more recommendeded

[noble plaza]

yeah those were my thoughts

[quaint solar]

Stop doing that, and use the candies

[old orchid]

You are giving bad advice here

[noble plaza]

did you not read what Gakon said haha

[quaint solar]

Listen to whoever my dude.
My current recommendation is to use the candies over the stones.

[old orchid]

What if they don't have enough candies?

[noble plaza]

i dont even know if i have 4* support candies

[noble plaza]

With Pryce and BP Candice?

[quaint solar]

In imy opinion "currently"
Wait for the candies unless littlerally. You have no choice.

[old orchid]

[quaint solar]

A matter of fact. You have 5 ice types to do the pasio. Don't even know who you burned to get the kill on drake round 1

[old orchid]

Yeah, sometimes gauge might be poor but its managable. I suggest fighting Koga with that team

[old orchid]

They can always offtype if needed

[noble plaza]

I went in assuming that I would need to offtype

[noble plaza]

I just don't want to off-type if there is a better on-type option

[old orchid]

Yeah ontype is more preferable to most people

[noble plaza]

for obvious reasons

[sick anvil]

Way more damage, tho Ice chars are quite limited

[toxic cobalt]

Round 2 is status, just poison someone

[sick anvil]

Meanwhile water….

[nimble shell]

who come up with the idea of ice only cs?

[zealous karma]

could be worse couldve been bug

[toxic cobalt]

What you talking about, Bugsy Noland Burgh Guzma Lusamine easy

[zealous karma]

4 of those units want to be on the same team cause they cant single strike even 1.5K

[nimble shell]

this 2 type just equally bad

[old orchid]

imagine Fairy CS

[nimble shell]

fairy is fairly new

so

[zealous karma]

wdym

[nimble shell]

more acceptable to be lack of unit

[zealous karma]

Fairy was an existing type at launch

[nimble shell]

pool still relatively small

[old orchid]

its just most of good Fairy types are gacha exclusive

[zealous karma]

me and my 1/5 lillie

I feel fairy cs is more than likely with CHop or CCalem

[old orchid]

or Electric CS with them

[zealous karma]

bug would be the worst due to it only hsving 14 units most of which are not great on their own

[dim depot]

Need help on Aaron for 2.5k points. Recommends Special Attack. So Hau/Raichu. But I'm doing like no damage to center and getting wiped by sync often.

[old orchid]

+helperfaq

please show your team and params

[zealous karma]

are you using volkner alongside hau I just want to make sure

[dim depot]

Double Hau lol

[old orchid]

who is the tank?

and what move level is your Hau?

[zealous karma]

with double hau I cant imagine youre doing not much damage to center

[dim depot]

Basically at best every attempt ends like this

[old orchid]

so terrain will run out before the second sync

use Volkner instead of SS Hau

[dim depot]

Well, the damage output is still the problem. I'm boosting sync here with inertia and the damage is pitiful.

[old orchid]

what are the params?

[dim depot]

I'll try, but I'm basically giving it up for an extra terrain

[old orchid]

try using EX Support

[old orchid]

Volkner has flinch to do turn denial, try to flinch Heal Order before Aaron's sync

[dim depot]

Params are whatever. Pre-sync, post-sync. None are much different.

Oh I see.

[old orchid]

try pre sync first, and use an EX support

like Sabrina or SS Elesa

[zealous karma]

I’d replace base hau over sshau

[grand steppe]

The terrain is running out in the middle of the 2nd cycle. When you really need it for the 2nd sync.

[old orchid]

base Hau has aoe sync tho, but i see your point

is 1/5 SS Hau's sync higher than base Hau?

[zealous karma]

Sshau can already clear sides pretty easily

And I imagine so

[grand steppe]

what round is this btw?

[toxic cobalt]

Flinching the heal order is a game changer

[dim depot]

Round 4

But nah, it's not like I'm doing much damage even before the heal. That screen above is about as far as I go anyway.

[toxic cobalt]

Have you tried just poisoning them

[grand steppe]

This is with reduced countdown params.

My units are lv. 140, and my ssHau is 1/5 ex.

If you quad queue you can avoid face tanking the sync.

[dim depot]

Your Haus are doing like 4x the damage mine are. No way that's all in level difference.

[zealous karma]

Do you have cs2 or special damage reduction up?

[grand steppe]

These parameters give the enemy very little strength.

But they make them, very lethal.

Luckily they didn't get boosted by Power on Hit, so I survived the sync.

Does your SS Hau have CS2?

In the screenshot, your Hau only has +1 crit.

[grand steppe]

If you're using Gastly you want to make sure you get See the Unseen! MPR to proc, so you can get +3 crit.

Ah, you have only 1 MP on your trainer moves.

You're using a rather restrictive option for a team that needs more than 1 use of each tm.

[dim depot]

Maybe time to reset the params? Again, even blocking the heal, I'm not dealing anywhere near enough damage. And he has cs2.

[grand steppe]

Well having only +1 crit is the likely culprit.

But have you checked to make sure Special dmg reduction isn't enabled? As well as Standard Damage reduction, being disabled?

[dim depot]

I'm doing on-type damage, wouldn't I want the other one?

[grand steppe]

Standard Damage Reduction 8 should be checked, otherwise your missing out on free points.

[dim depot]

Then yeah, I'm baffled. Center just tanks too much.

[grand steppe]

Yeah, this is the post-sync list. Where you intend to survive past the enemy's first sync.

So having only 1 crit, and that much strength is going to look like you're hitting as hard as a wet paper bag.

[dim depot]

Somehow was enough for the other 3 though.

[grand steppe]

You need to get rid of Half Ally MP.

[dim depot]

Okay

[grand steppe]

Was the striker in those groups a free unit like Hau was?

The post-sync list doesn't take Power ↑ On Hit 2 either.

it's probably why Aaron wiped you

These are the -3 Countdown Parameters: They make the opponent extremely lethal, and you pretty much have to KO on your first sync, &or quad queue an extra move.

 50 | Special Dmg. Reduction
 50 | Max Sync Countdown -1
 50 | Atk & Sp.Atk ↑1
 50 | No Status Conditions
 50 | Interference Immunity
--
100 | Strength ↑1
100 | Sync Buff ↑5
100 | Atk & Sp.Atk ↑3
100 | No Stat Reduction
100 | Ally Healing ↓5
100 | Power ↑ on Hit 1
100 | Physical Damage Reduction 8
--
150 | Gradual Healing at Start
150 | Atk & Sp.Atk ↑5
--
200 | Strength ↑2
200 | Max Sync Countdown -2
200 | Power ↑ on Hit 2
--
300 | Ally Move Gauge Max -2
300 | Standard Damage Reduction 8```
This may be a bit advanced. But it's what I demoed in the video earlier.

[dim depot]

It's so close! What can I change to make it a post-sync?

[old orchid]

use a faster buffer than Morty

[grand steppe]

Post sync skips some of the Atk, and Power on Hits.

But I do agree, Morty is rather slow since he has to spend a lot of turns buffing.

[versed meteor]

When wally gets going nothing can stop him

[grand steppe]

Post your parameters.

[dim depot]

The same ones you posted above just now

[grand steppe]

Oh the lethal one?

you probably just need to level up ss Hau a bit

Are you able to quad queue?

Actually just switch Morty with Torchic if you don't have a gacha special support, it can give hau +6 spa and +3 crit if you get an MPR on Blazing Hope, and the extra buffs will kill it

going from +2 to +6 is a large increase in stats

[dim depot]

Phew, that was close. I traded strength +2 for HP +4.

[grand steppe]

good luck with R5

[dim depot]

Thanks! I'll keep this preset.

[versed meteor]

The pinned forgot to say Cynthia got Ramming speed

[dim depot]

And done! Thanks again for the help. Aaron was definitely the toughest by far this week.

[hidden monolith]

Can I ask here for help with the event champion stadium?

[sand karma]

Yes

[hidden monolith]

I am really struggling

I got BP candice with the ticket I just obtained

I guess off-typing is really bad

My only viable ice units are Ghetsis and BP Candice

[sand karma]

Base Candice has a good sync nuke

Do you haveHala?

[hidden monolith]

Nope

[hidden monolith]

she's not gridded for sync at all

I do have Gladion if it's any good ;-;

But he's 2/5

[sand karma]

How many points are you aiming for

[hidden monolith]

Idm, just clear ig

Usually I get 6.5k on regular master mode

My best is 8k'ish

[sand karma]

Okay

[hidden monolith]

The rewards are pretty good

and I need the spirits to EX skyla

[sand karma]

What are your best units?

[hidden monolith]

2/5 Adaman, 4/5 SS Acerola, 3/5 SS Lana

[sand karma]

How many ex supports do you have?

[hidden monolith]

let me see

I have 4

Just need 40 spirits for skyla tho

[sand karma]

Who are the 4?

[toxic cobalt]

What move level is your OG Candice?

[hidden monolith]

1/5 Leaf, 4/5 SS Acerola, 2/5 Aaron, 3/5 Dawn