Champion Stadium

[shrewd oyster]

That's what I was doing actually- I don't normally use him for Overheat personally

Yeah the wise entry 2 is the issue otherwise I could just use ch Marnie or something

[grand steppe]

Do you have other physical strikers or perhaps tech that can abuse a weather?

or you could supplement Silver with Physical defense debuffs or sync acceleration

Gordie can provide fire rebuff for example

[grim bison]

2.5k sinnoh Offtyped (again...)

[keen jasper]

Now do 3k pts. off-type

[grand steppe]

I just cleared the status increased stage with cold snap leon.... with status conditions disabled

[keen jasper]

[shrewd oyster]

I was trying Bea but she's too frail

[paper summit]

are you off typing as a challenge? because off typing water is definitely gonna rise some eyebrows, and fighting when you have CHop

I just ask because that again reads a bit like a complaint

[grand steppe]

What happened to ssMorty?

like Bea (Sirfetch'd)?

[grim bison]

[keen jasper]

Hoenn should be next on July right?

Because it's been 7 months

[grim bison]

I think the monthly master fair unit rerun like hints at what next month's CS is now

[nocturne pawn]

that might be true actually

[keen jasper]

Interesting

[grim bison]

Last last month MF rerun was SS Lusamine, Alola CS

Last month MF rerun was SSR Cynthia, Sinnoh CS

Archie rerun this month, Hoenn CS in July

[keen jasper]

Interesting indeed

[grim bison]

This could also be just one huge coincidence

[keen jasper]

You mean like the 3 month gap between MFs?

[grim bison]

No the CS region being in line with the mf rerun

[keen jasper]

What I mean is that, is it coincidental like the gap between MFs is 3 months?

[grim bison]

I have no idea what you're talking about

[potent wadi]

Does Rebuff count for Healthy Advantage?

[paper summit]

no, that's not a status condition

Rebuff shuts down Acute Senses

[potent wadi]

Ah

[quaint solar]

I need a winning team for R5 any ideas anyone ?

[keen jasper]

What fight?

Cynthia or Marnie?

[quaint solar]

Marnie

[desert berry]

Hello what’s a good F2P poison stall team

Including the BP pair

[keen jasper]

Well, Marnie has Healthy Advantage and she has speed buff multipliers

[nocturne pawn]

bp erika bp morty and a defensive buffer

[keen jasper]

Swimsuit Misty, OG Janine and Lucy/BP Erika

[nocturne pawn]

oh right janine

venom drench

[cloud mulch]

sorry can i ask for help, im trying to do the first round vs drake

[keen jasper]

If you're doing him 1st round, then you're gonna need a hail setter

[nocturne pawn]

main thing is to replace sand and try to use physical

[keen jasper]

And a defense buffer for your team

Because Drake's attacks are all physical

[cloud mulch]

i was using skyla,leaf and candice but i keep losing

[desert berry]

Thanks thanks

[mellow linden]

That team lacks synergy

[desert berry]

Looker can’t be used for poison stall right?

[nocturne pawn]

leaf buffs too slow

[nocturne pawn]

hes a dps so uh not really

[keen jasper]

He's more of a poison damage dealer than a staller

[desert berry]

Mkay

Tyty

[keen jasper]

Besides, he only has regular poison, not bad poison

[mellow linden]

Could you show us your roster sorted by type? There’s a tutorial on how to use the Sync Pair tracker in the pins

[keen jasper]

+tracker

[frozen depot]

https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/

For newcomers/beginners, check the video below on how to properly showcase your pairs : https://imgur.com/a/2ONrAcl
Fill your pairs > Turn Visibility only for "Have" > Filter by Type then Role > Turn On "Separators" > Print with "Image" button

[keen jasper]

Oh so the video is here

Hmmmmm

[mellow linden]

Ah, yeah, that tutorial

[cloud mulch]

how do i send it?

oh ok

[quaint solar]

Who 😅

[desert berry]

Swimsuit Misty is Starmie?

[keen jasper]

Psyduck

[desert berry]

Oh

[mellow linden]

That wasn’t directed towards you, but for reference:

Lucy: 4-star, Seviper

BP Erika: 4-star, Tangela

Janine: 3-star, Ariados

[cloud mulch]

thx for the help

[keen jasper]

Could you maybe sort it by type please? Thanks

[nocturne pawn]

bp morty is better than mistyduck ftr

just as a heads up

[cloud mulch]

yeash wait a sec

[nocturne pawn]

if you got him 3/5 then use him instead

[desert berry]

Where can you get swimsuit Misty

[mellow linden]

Event that isn’t running rn

[keen jasper]

Why him when you're poison stalling?

[desert berry]

Oof

[mellow linden]

BP Morty is slightly better and more accessible

[desert berry]

Aight BP Morty it iss

[nocturne pawn]

better survivability better defensive buffing better healing and sustain

[mellow linden]

BP Morty is Mismagius

[nocturne pawn]

not huge but they said they dont have mistyduck anyway

[keen jasper]

IK

[cloud mulch]

these are ny ice units

[desert berry]

Can I pair Koga BP Janine together?

And Morty

[keen jasper]

Sure

[nocturne pawn]

if you want to max blind spot that works

[mellow linden]

BP Janine isn’t used for Poison stall

Regular Janine, the one with Ariados, is

[desert berry]

OH

[mellow linden]

Which of them have you used thus far?

[cloud mulch]

ive tried with kyurem and froslass

[mellow linden]

I mean which are still available?

Since you’d have to have used 4 teams in order to get to Marnie

[desert berry]

Was there a guide on how to set up Poison Stall team?

[keen jasper]

SwimMisty has Gradual Healing and Potions and flinching only further stalls the strat

[mellow linden]

The basic formula for a Poison stall team is tank + Poison inflictor + appropriate offensive debuffer

[nocturne pawn]

confuse ray exists

[mellow linden]

BP Morty has Confuse Ray and more consistent defensive buffs

It’s not a massive difference, but BP Morty is slightly better

[tired sleet]

The points outline is in the pins, but apart from that you just need a team with a lot of healing/def buffs and Bad Poison

Trap and Offensive debuffs are also nice

[cloud mulch]

all of my units

[mellow linden]

Oh, wait

I got you mixed up with someone else, didn’t I

You’re on Drake

[keen jasper]

But SwimMisty has Endurance when she syncs

[paper summit]

how come this Morty vs Misty debate happened two days in a row? kinda funny

[keen jasper]

Oh whatever

[nocturne pawn]

:raided:

[keen jasper]

They don't her anyways so why am I still doing this?

[mellow linden]

For a team against Drake you can roll with Hala + any weather setter other than Sandstorm (Hail being the top contender) + an appropriate Support

[nocturne pawn]

this convo is sorta irrelevant anyway when they dont even have the latter unit

[cloud mulch]

ok thx ill try

[keen jasper]

Am I blind or do I not see Gladion?

[desert berry]

So I have Koga Janine and Morty Mismag. Will Morty be the tank?

[mellow linden]

Yep!

[keen jasper]

Yes, make sure he has Synchro Healing gridded

[mellow linden]

He’s there

[desert berry]

Aighttt tyry

[keen jasper]

So they can use him for a fight, possibly R4. What move level is he?

[mellow linden]

Theirs is 1/5

[keen jasper]

Hmmmm, probably usable if it's against someone not named "Drake"

[cloud mulch]

oh ok thx

[desert berry]

Oh wait last question for the poison team

Who’s doing the dmg?

[paper summit]

the poison

[mellow linden]

Poison stall means no damage-dealer

The goal is to outlast the opponent

[desert berry]

Dumb question

[paper summit]

the idea is to outlive the opponent

[desert berry]

Mb mb

Thanks again

[mellow linden]

It happens, no worries

[desert berry]

Yay it worked

I need more poison stall teams

[tribal agate]

lol congratz!

i can fetch some gimme a sec

well actually

if you go in the discord search, search for "in: stage-clears" the keyword stall or poison stall

i thought i had seen a full poison stall CSMM but there are plenty

with various teams

#1097597679015567420 message
#1011675077764456519 message

[desert berry]

Ooohh

I’ll check it out tyty

[junior crown]

Hellooo

BTW BP morty not that good for marnie

Because of type, he is weak to dark

Just posted my clear for the special event if you need but the teams are almost always the same (I only changed last week normal CS because everyone were physical)

This is my tips for poison stall:
Use 5 badly poison pairs, what we have available for now is: Lucy, Koga, BP Erika, BP Janine, Tech Golbat, Tech Arbok, SS Leaf and Emma
For teammates: Tanker + Debuff attack (physical/special/both) + Buff defense (physical/special/both) + Heal (potion/synchro healing)
Additional things that can help: Trap, Gradual Healing, Recuperation, Flinch, Confusion, Speed and Evasion
You want at least the main tanker with Vigilance (all if possible) and MPR (for def buff at least)
Having multi sources of healing make it easier, as well as Potion MPR/Master Healer
You don't need EX, but the highest the level and the potential of your pairs, the more HP/Def you'll have
Follow the parameters pinned for Poison Stall
Examples of F2P teams for the base (to be improved/changed with other pairs that each player have): Skyla Mina BP Janine / Liza Viola Koga / BP Morty Tech Nidoqueen Tech Arbok / Sycamore Ghetsis BP Erika / BP Clemont OG Janine Lucy

[mortal dirge]

If anyone need ideas. Had to try twice with the crab to make the Nuke work but it was 1 hit. Also thought Laprss and Lorelei had Hail but I got it done in 1 try anyways.

[tribal agate]

That's a really nice write up Azriel thanks, do you mind if we use this for an upcoming guide?

[junior crown]

No, you can use for sure

[tribal agate]

Appreciated!

[hushed sorrel]

Did anyone do 12.5k with mostly grid-less and under level 130?

Just hoping for some ideas lol

[tribal agate]

i don't think that's feasible with mostly grid-less
Aurochs might come up with something soon as his thread is the pinnacle of F2P budget, but usually he still has some grids at least

if you're talking about the Pasio CS at least

that one is harder because you're forced on the 5 ice clears for budget

still, poison stall is a thing and that's where you'll put your money if you want the least investment

[hushed sorrel]

Ok not like no grids. But 1 grid per team is prob what I can afford

[tribal agate]

#1009554906568462476 message

these 2 threads i linked, keep an eye on em

well Azriel's stalls you can probably replicate at budget levels already

but Aurochs also posts some really ridiculous stuff as you can see in his history

[hushed sorrel]

Ok thank you. So poison stall. You only use it for a couple of them right? Not like the whole thing.

[junior crown]

the problem for 5 poison stall is having multi BP pairs

I think Aurochs will need at least 2 poison stalls on his clear for budget

you can try to mix poison stall with other teams if you have any other built

[tribal agate]

gridless ice feels terrible to think about
both Candice need their grids badly, let's not even mention Pryce and Wulfric

Hala at best can attempt something maybe

[junior crown]

at least ghetsis can save

[fringe valve]

Would I benefit more off the +10 attack tile or the sync tile

[hushed sorrel]

I’ve got enough orbs to grid 1 more atm haha

And that’s it

[junior crown]

usually legendary pairs are good investiments, maybe they have him built

[tribal agate]

oh yeah Ghetsis too

[tribal agate]

if you sync with him probably sync, if you use a support sync and mainly just spam his dps then attack tile for sure

why the Endurance? Is it for a specific stage?

[fringe valve]

Because he gets 1 shot by 2.5k MM aoes

[tribal agate]

when they happen sure yes he's paper

can't argue there

i use him with SC Lyra & Courtney so he has 0 issues because the def stacking and master passive is absurd

[junior crown]

his base defense is bad and he even debuffs himself

[junior crown]

only true for physical stages

[nocturne pawn]

OK I FINALLY DID MARNIE

somehow her fiery wrath failed to go off but we take those

[tribal agate]

of course but that's why i intentionally go on physical stages with them

[nocturne pawn]

probably the worst team ever

idk how this worked 💀

[tribal agate]

that's conceptual

[junior crown]

Trying to understand why OG Red is there

but if it worked, congratz

[tired sleet]

SS Diantha is busted

[nocturne pawn]

spam accel so i can get double sync because i suck ass

the weird one is sycamore really

[hushed sorrel]

Thanks for the tip gents im following both

[junior crown]

he buffs sp def at least

[nocturne pawn]

evelyn didnt survive the sync -> fiery wrath

[junior crown]

and ex supp

[nocturne pawn]

that was honestly so scary

[tribal agate]

wait did you paralyze with Red?

[nocturne pawn]

yeah

[junior crown]

debuffed defense too?

[nocturne pawn]

the fun part was marnie literally healed off all of the b diamond storms i was using

[tribal agate]

well SC Diantha probably has that covered

[nocturne pawn]

💀

[nocturne pawn]

ss not sc

[tribal agate]

yeah sorry

damn alts

[nocturne pawn]

anyway this cringe was annoying

50/50 id have to reset

cuz brave bird kos from 50% and dark pulse into side using move = dead

[junior crown]

Maybe you'd have a easier time poison stalling her...

[nocturne pawn]

i mean i won

also do you guys know how fiery wrath can just fail

cuz thats what happened here

idk what caused it to not happen

i think it was after i used gmax replenish

this was the grid i used for him

[grand steppe]

The enemy's fiery wrath failed?

[nocturne pawn]

yes

i didnt debuff accuracy or anything like that

[devout sluice]

I don’t know either.

[grand steppe]

Wide guard? if not maybe putting a recording in #916852044692856834 would be worthwhile

[nocturne pawn]

i think it was after i had used gmax replenish

[nocturne pawn]

but im not sure if i can replicate it

does anyone want to test it out

cuz i dont wanna deal with the other fights again

[devout sluice]

I don’t have him so I can’t test it out unfortunately.

But I’m sure someone will find out how eventually.

[fringe valve]

Tested both, support ex definitely the way to go. Sides die anyway to support ex precipice.

[pure haven]

Drifbloom getting omniboost

[nocturne pawn]

yeah agatha was so shit for no reason like please fuck off with air slash forever

[pure haven]

LMAO

[fiery canopy]

put off the new week for a bit but im ready meow
lets seeee

anybody i should do on a particular round

[zealous karma]

Idk how it toook that much

[nocturne pawn]

sinnoh or ice cs

well ss diantha is 1/5

[zealous karma]

If you saved her TM afyer her mega could’ve gotten PMUN +3

[nocturne pawn]

its +2

and i did

lmao

[zealous karma]

Oh

[nocturne pawn]

the problem is that i died to fiery wrath

because its queued immediately after sync

i needed to sync a third time anyway cuz marnie has like 45k hp with my params

[fiery canopy]

might just offtype cynthia bc my fighting units r Ass

[sinful garden]

If you have bea she clears the stage comfortably

[fiery canopy]

special stadium wooo
i do and i used her. had to lower my params a bit tho

[tribal agate]

hey corn sorry for the random ping, are your DMs open?
staff has tried contacting you and i know in the past we had some issues with other users because DMs closed so just making sure

[summer umbra]

Done 12,5k Points, 2nd try

Had to reset because I was unaware of Drake' annoyance so he was my 4th Round when Irida and Red/Ash was already used 💀

[cloud mulch]

just to know, did the event stadium reset with the rewards or i can try also tomorrow?

[tame gust]

Not sure how to take that question. Event stadium is a one-off sort of thing. The rewards won’t reset unlike standard CS does weekly

[cloud mulch]

so if i dont complete it today, i will lose the rewards right?

[tame gust]

No, you won’t

You’re not time gated on CS clears. You don’t have to do the full challenge in a day

[cloud mulch]

oh ok thank u so much

[tame gust]

You can divide it up, do a battle a day if you feel that’s more comfortable.

[cloud mulch]

thx

[tired sleet]

You have until the 11th of July to do the special cs

[cloud mulch]

thx

[grand trout]

How often do you guys off type?

[nocturne pawn]

if its a bad week up to 3 times

[grand trout]

What stadium was this?

[nocturne pawn]

sinnoh

[grand trout]

Wait

I was checking the pins

Reduced x mitigation means a good thing right

[grand trout]

Yeah my last offtype was sinnoh too

During the first iteration

Fucking Aaron

[north crown]

yeah elec weak aaron can be a real nuisance, especially if you don't have anything else to effectively deal with aaron's gimmick

[sinful garden]

Yeah sorry i received the dm, i was out so i didnt have the time to answer it, ill definitely do that tomorrow; thanks

[tribal agate]

thank you! and yes no pressure at all

[zinc island]

So how did pasio champion stadium went for everyone?

[north crown]

I haven't tried it yet

tho this is how my planning went: #1009554906568462476 message

[zinc island]

It was pretty tiresome for me but i smh did it

[north crown]

I'm giving myself an extra challenge to only ontype since offtype would be too easy for me

[zinc island]

I had to offtype drake

[nocturne pawn]

i off typed 3/5 and marnie was hella ass

[grand trout]

Mine went well

Marnie was harder

[rigid flint]

Yeahh Marnie's not too fun

[grand trout]

I didn't offtype

[north crown]

well what did you expect from a newly made cs stage

[zinc island]

Tge hardest ones were drake and marnie

[north crown]

ofc it's gonna be ass

[rigid flint]

The old man team managed to clear it tho :D

[nocturne pawn]

ss diantha was a surprisingly good counter

[nocturne pawn]

🗿

[grand trout]

Having to bring a unit made for paralysis crippled my team

[north crown]

you mean pryce? and on who? could you tell me the team?

[north crown]

me with my ghetsis+pserena team core 😎

[rigid flint]

Pryce and Ghetsis!

[grand trout]

I mean we weren't complaining, we cleared it anyways

[rigid flint]

But ofc it's highly reliant on Ghetsis' Cold Snap 2

[grand trout]

Already used ghetsis. My only remaining good ice was summer steven

[rigid flint]

So not the most reliable

[grand trout]

I used ccalem, celesa, and summer steven

Thank god for countdown reductions

[rigid flint]

Honestly

I've seen a lotta people use CElesa for Marnie

[grand trout]

Yeah that viral hit nuzzle worked wonders

[rigid flint]

I can imagine

I was getting way too frustrated over Ghetsis not freezing

[grand trout]

That + light screen to mitigate damage

[rigid flint]

I should've just paralysed them

[grand trout]

Cold snap can proc by how many chances

[rigid flint]

Ooh yeah I almost forgot she had that

[rigid flint]

It's like a 30% chance

[zinc island]

I should have saved my colress for marnie i didn't expect healthy advantage

[north crown]

do majority of people not look at the server resources or the game tips?

[zinc island]

Because of taht i had to time my sings with melony amd ss hilbert's shots

[grand trout]

I mean some of us can't have both discord and the game open

[north crown]

I always check what the stage has beforehand

[zinc island]

I just preffer experiencing them head on before looking for help

[grand trout]

And some don't which is okay too

At least stages can be analyzed and retried

[north crown]

I almost softlocked my attempt in a cs, which made me v cautious on stages overall

[rigid flint]

Tbf it's not really looking for help, moreso strategising what to do

But that makes sense

Ik people who like to jump in and see what the stage has in game

[zinc island]

I mean i consider looking at the enemies passives and moves help

Since after that they're literaly an open book

For me its more about the challenge of getting to defeat them on my own

[rigid flint]

True

[rigid flint]

Yeah it's the same for me too

I like trying to figure out which units I have to use in which stages

[grand trout]

That's why I don't plan for teams before CS

I like making them up on the fly

[rigid flint]

I kinda plan cos I like saving my best units for the hardest stages

But my ice types are limited so I was like hmmm

[grand trout]

Yeah that's fine too

I'm more of a spontaneous guy lol

[rigid flint]

I used Eusine thinking he could use Blizzard but B Surf did more damage even tho it was off type

So it just became an off type water team lmao

[grand trout]

I wonder how many used lusamine

[rigid flint]

I'm sure a few people did

I used her with BP Candice

[grand trout]

How about nhessa

[rigid flint]

What's her damage like?

[mellow linden]

Holiday Nessa? I used her alongside Candice and Palentine’s Bea for one of my teams, she works fine

[nocturne pawn]

shes not really meant for real damage she has flinches and team regen

[rigid flint]

Ah

[grand trout]

I just want more hailers

[mellow linden]

Well her Icicle Crash damage is fairly solid, though for a Tech her nuke is underwhelming

[grand trout]

Not very...noice

[nocturne pawn]

im not used to techs that cant nuke

[rigid flint]

I was looking at her grid and there was a few move multipliers so I thought her dps would be ok

[nocturne pawn]

if she gets hit by a physical attack she basically loses half her grid

[rigid flint]

You mean special attack?

[grand trout]

Grimsley crying

[mellow linden]

It’s not so much that she’s unable to nuke, but outside of her innate modifier all she has is Super Preparation to boost her nuke

Icicle Crash damage is fairly solid though, like I said

[dull yarrow]

Who's the most annoying one in Ice

[mellow linden]

Drake or Marnie, probably

[nocturne pawn]

marnie

[dull yarrow]

How's this for Drake

Or maybe I'll save it for Marnie

[rigid flint]

Probably best to save Irida for Marnie

Oh wait hm

Do you have Candice?

[dull yarrow]

Yes

[rigid flint]

Is there any other physical ice damage dealer you can use?

[dull yarrow]

Yes

[rigid flint]

Alright

Use them instead since SS Silver requires quite a bit of setup

[north crown]

planning to use her, since her blizzard dps is better than pryce's blizzard

[north crown]

overkill

[dull yarrow]

@rigid flint

Round 1 😫

[vapid notch]

do you guys know anyone who sets hail

[vapid notch]

what r u going for

[dull yarrow]

Drake

[tired sleet]

There’s a full list here #bot-zone message

[tired sleet]

If N is just 1/5, you may want to bring an acc buffer like Aaron or Maylene

(Also NC Marnie’s stage was designed for SS N so you may want to use him there)

[dull yarrow]

Can't even off type with SSRT cause they take no damage

I'm probably using the wrong parameters

[rigid flint]

You don't wanna waste all your best units at the start

You can replace Bea with regular Candice

And that should be good

[tired sleet]

That’s probably it then

[rigid flint]

If you want you could also use Ghetsis against Marnie

[dull yarrow]

Idk what parameters to use.. I only have two pages, On type and Toxic Stall

Can I even Toxic Stall one of the stages

[lethal cloud]

Quite possible, mayb except drake since he's still a rather new stage

Can't confirm as I stopped poison stalling when the newer stages are out

[dull yarrow]

I cba dealing with Agatha, so just gonna toxic stall her

[lethal cloud]

The new Paras make poison stalling easier tho since u can stack all the hp and def params

Which netts way more pts than back at 2k pts limit

[desert berry]

I did Poison Stall it was fun

[north crown]

bpclemont, SSN, atk debuffer

[dull yarrow]

Done with toxic stall

[vapid notch]

what units set up hail other than candice

[paper summit]

you already got an answer here ^^^

[old orchid]

Hey guys, since yall already know the Summer event features Tate and Liza right? That means Hoenn CS next month

[mellow linden]

Ugh, Steel weak Glacia

Hopefully she’s only on 1 week

[grand steppe]

Just pull Jirachi 😛

[nocturne pawn]

yeah it’s definitely gonna be special

[tulip python]

Glacia was oddly difficult

[nocturne pawn]

steel weak glacia isnt that bad

i think

[grand steppe]

Yeah doom desire is special. And Glacia has sentry entry x2

[nocturne pawn]

worst comes to worst just off type

[zealous karma]

I used thorton

[nocturne pawn]

or you can do that

and suffer

[paper summit]

Striker Perrserker, granted I'll carry the guy a bit with a support like CBede or something like that

[keen jasper]

Imagine having striker Perrserker or OG Raihan

[nocturne pawn]

i have both

skill issue

[keen jasper]

Also some of the Galar gym leaders still have no g-max

And I expect Opal, Milo and Kabu to have their g-max mons

[main crow]

Looking like we might get Hoeen CS next and Steel Glacia on the first week

[swift swan]

sounds fun

[old orchid]

<- has both Raihan and strike Perrserker

[last palm]

🫶Striker Perrserker

[sand karma]

Water special stadium?

[old orchid]

Its the new game mode

Dena mentioned it multiple times

[vast dome]

Thinking of replacing N with SS Red vs Aaron

[sand karma]

Aaron had sentry entry x2
Use special electric like Ash or hau
Or offtype with special damage

[vast dome]

Off-typed with SS Red

[wary obsidian]

finally finished the special stadium. took me 2 hours

[vast dome]

This is all the Ice I have. Anything else I need to take note of for the special Stadium?

[civic trellis]

Are we getting a galar CS?

[swift swan]

doesn't look like it

[main crow]

We are more likely to get Hoeen CS back

[quaint solar]

I need a winning team for Pasio Round 5. I already used F2P EX tech already

[main crow]

Ghetsis is a good counter for Marnie

[keen jasper]

For Marnie, you need speed debuff and paralysis

[keen jasper]

Do you have Irida?

[quaint solar]

Nope

[keen jasper]

Who are your remaining ice units?

[grim bison]

What is next month's cs

[quaint solar]

Lusamine & Summer Steven

[keen jasper]

Hmmmm

[quaint solar]

Woops, 😅 Forgot about Hala

[last palm]

Shauna has sentry entry?

👀my Bea with 6 sync buff only do 4k on sync

[zealous karma]

Shauna?

[last palm]

Yeah ghost girl e4

[zealous karma]

Oh shauntal

[last palm]

Ah sorry

[zealous karma]

Appears not

[last palm]

i guess max strength params is too much for Bea

[zealous karma]

What’s your team for bea

[last palm]

Acynthia, Lodge Dawn and Bea

[quaint solar]

If it's on Round 1 just use Frostlass team

[zealous karma]

Why lodge dawn?

My bea with only one sync buff did 3K with a crit and def debuffs and strength 12 so maybe your bea hasn’t been critting, to put it simply I’d use masked Royal over LDawn

[last palm]

Lodge dawn because im on round 3 and it is a slow team

I dunno last sync got crit but still suck i only do strength 12

[zealous karma]

Masked Royal buffs Spd by +6 in two turns

[last palm]

really?

Well let me check masked royal again

[quaint solar]

You know Bae buffs her own crit to +3
And I so use mask royal with bae

[last palm]

👀hey that is 6 def debuff

[zealous karma]

Masked Royal can also debuff def

With dishearten can also give him def crush to double down on it

[last palm]

[vast dome]

There has to be a F2P Pasio Ice Stadium run

[tired sleet]

There’s this i suppose

https://youtu.be/aOygG0LHh9k

[paper summit]

I mean, I doubt you are new to need a f2p clear...

besides, there is no need to on type every battle

[quaint solar]

Yes their is. I looked at thegamingeevee version
That one posted is Memoschprehen#6345 which I could not simulate

[quaint solar]

Why would you want to loose out on more damage

[tired sleet]

Using a good off type damage dealer is much better than using an awful on type damage dealer

[zealous karma]

(Wulfric)

[quaint solar]

I would agree with you before 12.5K became a thing

[quaint solar]

zinfogel actually used him in his pasio run

[zealous karma]

Doesn’t mean it’s recommended

[tired sleet]

Taking an extra 3 strength is much better than forcing yourself to use someone awful

[tired sleet]

Zinfogel admits that wulfric is an awful unit, and only entertains him since he loves Wulfric and enjoys using bad units
He also used literally the best supports for wulfric to inflate his damage

[zealous karma]

While this is just an example, if you have a 3/5 ex SSHilda there’s not much reason to use wulfric over her especially when Wulfric really can’t do damage

Using wulfric avalanche is prolly worse than Nate fly

[grim bison]

What is next month's cs

[main crow]

We don't know

No one has posted the CS banner as of now

[zealous karma]

It’s very likely hoenn

[proud axle]

I don't know why I never tried this before. It worked perfectly.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/376011497861808129/1123517296435015742/Screenshot_20230628-032312.png

It might actually be more gauge-hungry than with Pryce in Janine's slot, though it also has more turn-to-turn DPS

Not that gauge is a problem with permanent fields and Sycamore's accel

[main crow]

https://twitter.com/absolutelypm/status/1673961068866183169?t=KgaHEznqrAjcpiH3YATlEA&s=19

👁️‍🗨️ Absol-utely 🔍 (2.34.0 - Server!!!) (@absolutelypm)

Hoenn Stadium this month

Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 7:46 AM

There Hoeen CS

[proud axle]

Sinnoh and Hoenn back to back? Rough couple of months

[zealous karma]

Kalos is likely after them

[proud axle]

3× hell month combo

[main crow]

Rip beginners

[grim bison]

CALLED IT

[green path]

And Galar CS after Kalos

[hushed sorrel]

Hoping for some help. Im aiming to hit at least 11K, but Im just really overwhelmed with how many options I have.

Ive completed it once at 7k but it wasnt very efficient. Can anyone offer some advice on where I should assign the strongest resource?

[dark osprey]

Is this for the normal or special CS?

[hushed sorrel]

ice CS

since they are all weak to ice it makes it a bit overwhelming

[manic kiln]

updated, check pin for new CS image

[swift swan]

2.5k hoenn, it'll be fun

[dark osprey]

Can put up your ice roster here. Plus the 2 ones you need to spare teams for are Drake and Marnie

So can start with teams for those

And mention which battles were hard for you

[manic kiln]

Next month should be johto, then kalos after that. If it’s anything else then galar might be next

[late grove]

[swift swan]

Sinnoh again?

[manic kiln]

Johto mb

[hushed sorrel]

Actually I think even if I can just get advice on which striker I should use for which stage, that would help a ton

I can build the teams around them

[late grove]

For this week you got the rats ez win lol

They can also can serve as an off type option for the ice cs

[hushed sorrel]

yea I want to do 11K+ for the candy for ice cs

[late grove]

You got some decent picks

[manic kiln]

Irida, silver, ghetsis. Build 3 teams around them. Offtype the other 2

[late grove]

So it can work depending on what e4 you do

[hushed sorrel]

my Ghetis is not ex or boosted though

is that all good

any ideas on which striker which stage?

[manic kiln]

Oh the rats are 3/5 so use them for 2 teams, then I guess adaman for the last

[late grove]

Ye rats are an ez win

[manic kiln]

Use physical for drake. And for marnie remember to use status on her. The rest don’t matter

[late grove]

Candice or Wulfric investment time

[hushed sorrel]

how about adamn for drake

status like paralyze?

so like SST red for Marnie?

[manic kiln]

Yes you want to paralyze marnie

Either rat is fine

[late grove]

That a good plan

[keen jasper]

Paralyze and speed debuff

[manic kiln]

Adaman for drake is also good, just pick suitable supports for him

With the rats should be easy anyway

[hushed sorrel]

oliva for shauntal?

or Bea?

[late grove]

Bea ig

[hushed sorrel]

is koga round bad idea?

any better round for koga?

or many I swap round koga round 2 drake

[dark osprey]

Drake round 1 is good because you have to change the weather either ways

Round 2 Shauntal or Agatha I guess. Can use round 4 for a physical attacker like SS Silver

[late grove]

Any round

Only thing to watch for Koga is evasion

[hushed sorrel]

How's this looking

[dark osprey]

Looks descent. Not sure of the Shauntal and Agatha stages

Can use Ghetsis on one of them

[hushed sorrel]

I dont have any sync orbs though

[dark osprey]

And do you have regular Candice and BP Candice?

[hushed sorrel]

I have I also have irida

[dark osprey]

Oh yeah crap

So Irida on one of them

Ghetsis is not gridded at all?

Regular Candice gridded?

[hushed sorrel]

no grid

[dark osprey]

Ok. The Bea team could be replaced by Irida then

[hushed sorrel]

but then R3 R4 im f***ed

r3 sp dmg down if Irida

its hard

[dark osprey]

No that's fine as long as you crit

[hushed sorrel]

I guess I Can do R4 Irida

[grim bison]

Save irida for Marnie

[hushed sorrel]

o ok

[dark osprey]

It's just like a light screen

[grim bison]

I recommend saving your better units for the harder stages

Plus if your struggling, just offtype

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Could do the Irida for Marnie. 3/5 TB Red is still a good choice to counter her healthy advantage though

Also where's the ss silver team?

[hushed sorrel]

I didt make ss silver haha

Im thinking Irida is weird with SST Red since they both need field

[swift swan]

Nah, separating the two would be more ideal

Sst red will be your offtype wild card

[hushed sorrel]

cant beat drake lmao

[swift swan]

What's the team and params?

[hushed sorrel]

off type post sync

[swift swan]

Oh, sst red?

What's his teammate

Drake wants you to change the weather, he hurts too much otherwise

[dark osprey]

Oh wasn't it the Adaman team?

[hushed sorrel]

yea it was

[swift swan]

Ah i see now

[hushed sorrel]

I just candied him and exed him lol

let me try again

[swift swan]

I'd personally try presyncing

[manic kiln]

you didn't use irida or ssilver for any round? Adaman team should be fine tho even at 1/5

[swift swan]

That team definitely has the firepower to do it

[manic kiln]

probably something wrong with parameters

[swift swan]

They used postsync params, while drake already has quite bulky HP

[hushed sorrel]

ok let me change it

[full mesa]

Dawn/Candice/Kiawe did Drake pre sync. But you need that perma field parameter.

Also you need to heal on time. Candice DPS doesn't exist.

[swift swan]

Incredible nuke, but bestie what is that ice punch damage!

[hushed sorrel]

this drake is hard ay

[full mesa]

Not really. You have to remove sand and he's bulky. He's more tricky than hard (like every unit in Hoenn CS)...

[hushed sorrel]

o sheet I did on type pre

let me change it to off type pre

[manic kiln]

that's why

because that team should easily destroy Drake

[old orchid]

Called it lol

[hidden ore]

Gonna think of Pryce team
Best I can do is Melony for him
Saving Irida & Froslass for Marnie

[frosty axle]

He just needs hail and someone to buff him quickly

[trail smelt]

Immediately follow up Sinnoh with Hoenn huh? DeNa doing a funny lol

[spring fjord]

So, what are last week typings?

[tribal agate]

it's all in pins but gotta scroll a bit

also thanks Lost for updating appreciated

[hushed sorrel]

Holy moly Sneasel is so much damage

[nocturne pawn]

thats fucking rich lmao

ice weak drake just when we get ice cs

at least steel weak glacia isnt first week

[full mesa]

It was like this last summer too.

[manic kiln]

Last december, they just repeat the cycle

[hushed sorrel]

Wtf is wrong with Agatha lol takes no damage

[nocturne pawn]

did you check physical damage reduction

[hushed sorrel]

No

[nocturne pawn]

cuz bea shouldnt be doing 4k even off type

[hushed sorrel]

Off post right?

[old orchid]

Turn off standard dmg reduction as well

[hushed sorrel]

I can’t take it down that fast

[swift swan]

What's your agatha team?

[swift swan]

This right here?

[hushed sorrel]

Bea ss morty and the metal cog

[nocturne pawn]

wait i see the issue

ss morty is slow as hell to buff

[swift swan]

Hmm, i need to check what colress does

..well, assuming it's him

[nocturne pawn]

ripple effect screech and paralysis

[swift swan]

Ah. Screech I understand, but paralysis isn't needed right

[nocturne pawn]

no

it’d be better to use him on marnie really

[swift swan]

Why not hilbert like originally planned?

[nocturne pawn]

idk

ask him

[old orchid]

i think that team is fine, with infinite SS Morty TM Bea shouldnt care about speed buffs

[nocturne pawn]

id use hilbert here

[hushed sorrel]

I used hilbert lolol

[old orchid]

i would use Nanu instead of Colress

[swift swan]

Bea should, for inertia (depends on move level tho)

[old orchid]

Nanu has 60% flinch at base

[swift swan]

Don't want her to waste time buffing

[old orchid]

SS Morty TM has speed buff tho

[hushed sorrel]

My bea is 3/5 with max grid

Let me get nanu

[old orchid]

at worse case she has to spend 3 turns buffing speed and atk

note that Nanu needs to crit to get 60% flinch

[swift swan]

Oh wait i understand your sentence now

Ss morty buffs speed very well, but bea would still need to handle her attack buffs most of the time

[hushed sorrel]

The speed is not bad I don’t have gauge issue

[old orchid]

you cant do anything about that

she needs Inertia

[hushed sorrel]

I need more damage

[old orchid]

wait, how about Sonia?

[swift swan]

Ruins quadqueue unless you can turn deny

[old orchid]

you might need SS Morty in another team

[old orchid]

can go for post sync

[swift swan]

Hmm, agatha postsync would be funny i guess

[old orchid]

[hushed sorrel]

Bea dies to first sync

Lol

[swift swan]

Though doesn't she use mostly special attacks? Gotta be careful with that

[old orchid]

with post sync param?

[old orchid]

[hushed sorrel]

Yea

[nocturne pawn]

agatha is all special iirc

[old orchid]

do you have Melony by chance?

she has Sing

[nocturne pawn]

unless theres some post sync move im not remembering

[civic trellis]

Is the water mode another CS or should we discuss it somewhere else

[old orchid]

we have had no info about it yet so its up to staff decision

its already pinned here

[civic trellis]

Oh alr

[frosty axle]

was posted and pinned already

unfortunately its hidden in the pins

[grim bison]

Anyways Galar CS in August?

[manic kiln]

No

[nocturne pawn]

we wouldnt know

not based on what we have now

[grim bison]

Well Galar VA is in July

and part 2 is in august

[manic kiln]

Anyway that water event is not really a cs

[nocturne pawn]

again that doesnt mean anything

[old orchid]

we cant know until August datamine

[versed meteor]

Why tf did this team struggle with koga

[nocturne pawn]

it shouldnt

[versed meteor]

Only managed to clear before koga second sync

700 damage sludge bomb for a reason

[keen jasper]

Is the schedule for the Hoenn CS out?

[nocturne pawn]

yes check channel pins

[grim bison]

What stages for first week of Hoenn have entry

[nocturne pawn]

drake has wise entry x2 idr anyone else

[keen jasper]

I don't see it

[grim bison]

To save your time

[old orchid]

it got buried in tons of pin

[keen jasper]

Flying-weak on week 1 can only mean 1 thing

[nocturne pawn]

its liza shilling

[frosty axle]

yes it needs to be repinned to be at the top

[nocturne pawn]

we know

[old orchid]

Dreamy is going to organize pins soon

[keen jasper]

I saw the Hoenn CS schedule at the bottom of the link of the Sinnoh CS

[hushed sorrel]

Letsss go

Did it with Bea

[versed meteor]

Candice doesn't work against drake?

Only 8k on sync

[old orchid]

you are doing something wrong then

[versed meteor]

Her only multiplier is inertia right?

[old orchid]

Heavy Hail 2 and innate as well

also SEUN

[versed meteor]

Normal Candice not bp

[old orchid]

yes

im talking about the OG

[versed meteor]

Oh then the super preparation grid

[quaint solar]

See. It's not working @split geyser
https://streamable.com/zcfqlx

[late grove]

[old orchid]

did you use the same grid, same params and same investment like them?

[keen jasper]

Why don't you have a paralysis and speed debuffer unit?

[old orchid]

they copied Zinfogel's team comp

[tribal agate]

it's already organized

we mods are tired to repin weekly so from now on pins are gonna stay that way and edited by their content creators

[old orchid]

[tribal agate]

it takes people seconds to scroll it takes us minutes to find messages and repin in the right orders

please understand that we're trying to automate it so we don't get pinged every week

we're however working on reducing the size of Sages' pins because yeah they're a bit large i agree we were thinking making the two pins a compact screenshot each and put them on the same message.

[nocturne pawn]

i like this format better personally

i know where everything ends up

[tribal agate]

mhmm we wanted it to stay consistent

if anything i can make up a command for like +csgraph or something to prompt the current ongoing CS it could save time

[versed meteor]

Ahh yes nothing like not crit on sync and getting crit by a spread move

[quaint solar]

Yes, I did. I'm not getting same Damage # but just beat the fights in a HELLA pinch. Just now.

[grand mural]

okay so theres no way in the world im doing 12.5k

on all ice weak

[nocturne pawn]

do you have off type teams

[grand mural]

i dont have too much of an issue with regular 12.5k its just ice is just a horrible type

not 2.5k capable really

[nocturne pawn]

.

you are not forced to on type

[grand mural]

thats what i meant

i only have 1 team i can off type 2.5k with really

that im aware of

(ss steven)

[versed meteor]

I have only one unit capable of off type

Ashchu

[grand mural]

oh i have ashchu

[nocturne pawn]

🗿

you only really need like 2 off type teams

f2p ice has hala and ghetsis

which are both very good

only drake and marnie pose any real problems

[versed meteor]

I have gotten crit twice on spread moves wtf drake doesn't have an increase in crit

[grand mural]

i have irida and holiday leon aswell so this might actually be possible

[nocturne pawn]

bruh

[grand mural]

so ash, ss steven... zerena? holiday leon, and irida with ghetsis?

[nocturne pawn]

if you have irida that’s literally a free win for any stage

[nocturne pawn]

no use irida and ghetsis on different teams

ideally id save ghetsis for marnie

[grand mural]

then where do i use irida

[nocturne pawn]

literally any stage

[swift swan]

she's a wild card against whichever stage you're having trouble with

[nocturne pawn]

^

[swift swan]

i'd recommend drake, to cancel out his sandstorm

[nocturne pawn]

she still slaps there even against wise entry x2

[grand mural]

alright

[nocturne pawn]

when you stack that many dps multipliers its pretty insane

[swift swan]

oh absolutely

<- forgot drake has entry

[quaint solar]

Yes, you can. Their are F2P videos out now. Like thegamingeevee YouTube video.

[versed meteor]

This game is fucking dog shit sync doesn't crit twice but some how 3 earthquake crit twice

[nocturne pawn]

ever get flinched 7 times on one stage without the increased effect chance effect

[modest gull]

I swear those people are Gods. I'm already struggling with my limited pairs and somehow these peeps can just defeat those stages with F2P pairs

[tribal agate]

there pins should be cleaner now!

now it takes one scroll to get to the CS graphic

[quaint solar]

If you have those F2P teams. Just copy their sync grid and moves in the YouTube videos

[swift swan]

those people just took the time to be patient and practice their gameplay, that's all

f2p pairs are by no means weak

[proud axle]

The easiest fight for me was Marnie, and I used Janine Sycamore Ghetsis against her.
I insisted on on-typing all five fights and that was miserable. I strongly recommend offtyping at least two of them, or more if your Ice roster is especially sparse

Looking over my Hall of Fame list... The Marnie fight was the only one I didn't use any gacha 5stars against. The right F2P for the job, can make it work easier than a less-suited Limited.

[frosty axle]

If that's first sync it should do 15k

[proud axle]

I used Abomasnow on Drake and it worked alright

Hala for turn-to-turn DPS, Candice for sync-sniping the boss twice

[grand trout]

What's the next stadium?

[old orchid]

Hoenn

check the pins for details

[plush tangle]

Everyone asks what's the next stadium
Nobody asks how's the next stadium

[old orchid]

Hoenn is cringe

too many zone

[main crow]

Skill issue
Just pull the zone unit ez

[old orchid]

where gems

[keen jasper]

Imagine having gems

[main crow]

Skill issue
Just save ez

[old orchid]

im savingQ

[grand trout]

Yeahh my data isn't good lol. When i checked the pins i saw tips for ice stadium so i thought it hasn't been pinned

[old orchid]

the Hoenn CS is pinned above the Ice stadium tho

[grand trout]

My pins rn because data is shit

[manic kiln]

light mode

[grand trout]

Yeah I can't see well; light mode is a necessity

I guess I'll have to wait til wifi comes back to see the lineup

[old orchid]

#1009554906568462476 message

here is the link to the details

[swift swan]

Can't take the no weather/terrain/zone param

[old orchid]

[last palm]

i havent taken the option this whole cs even when i dont have zone setter

[proud axle]

...If I'd remembered that existed, I might've been able to cut down on the number of retries I needed for Lusamine vs Koga

[swift swan]

Smh y'all

[versed meteor]

The region of the mf that reruns

[north crown]

Pure optimization takes:

Drake: busted and overkill lmao
Koga: Would rather bring a paralyzer like erika over sselesa. Ash paralyze boosted sync + b move = free w
Shauntal: Bea attacks r2 so like…
Agatha: why is Aaron there?
Marnie: y e s

ik I’m late, but I still want to add my two cents

[grim bison]

And entry x2

[nocturne pawn]

nah sinnoh is worse with entry x2

literally every e4 has at least one fight with an entry x2

[hushed sorrel]

Thanks guys I ended up doing 12k reduced 500 for drake

I don’t understand how my Sneasel seem to just keep doing more and more damage

Is it just sync buff?

[quaint solar]

You talking about his triple attack move 🤔
If so, it's in the ability

[hushed sorrel]

Must be the speed reduction stacking

[lunar meadow]

Triple axle doubles damage on each hit.

First hit is very weak, second is average, third is very high.

Resets each time you press the button

[wide adder]

wellp, time for preparations of figuring out wtf im doing for hoenn

0/18 types so first week isnt master mode

anything i should know about week 1 of hoenn, guys? any wise/sentrys or other damage reducing passives?

[nocturne pawn]

drake has wise entry x2

[lunar meadow]

Hoenn has more enemies that set and benefit from weather/terrain than most of the other regions.

Resetting or overwriting those is usually smart, if you can.

I don't remember many specifics, but I do remember being a dummy that set ghost zone and Phoebe's sync liked that...

[paper summit]

pomatools is your friend...

[wide adder]

irida my beloved--
is it enough to make me need someone else over my 3/5 irida ex for my ice type

[paper summit]

if you want to know what's up with Hoenn just go and check that, it doesn't take that much effort

[lunar meadow]

Not for hard mode.

For 2.5k mm, it might make you consider your options. It's basically the same "drake" fight we have right now for ice weak special stadium, I think

[wide adder]

i have to unlock master so have to do types this week

first time doing hoenn cs

[lunar meadow]

Ya, hard mode is a joke. You can ignore most fight mechanics with a few good units

[nocturne pawn]

its literally the same fight

why they decided to run ice weak drake twice no fucking idea

[lunar meadow]

Just make sure you try to get like 12 types the first week to make the second week easy

[lunar meadow]

Well the special stadiums have been 4 regular CS fights, and a neo champion

[wide adder]

im prob able to fit the full 15 since ive got a pretty big box, although i might avoid some of the types of next week

hm, dark type phoebe is sentry...guess marnies going there

[lunar meadow]

I used to help people plan out two week master mode unlocks a lot...

These days, everyone has such big rosters that I assume everyone can do it thanks to lodge/BP/ticket scouts/etc

[wide adder]

ive got favs in most of the types these days, its just some are weaker than others

dont see anything in steven thatd stop kris

gonna try to do bea for glacia probably

question for the pasio cs, btw, are bp candice and summer steven able to handle a couple of the clears? i know 3/5 of my teams for ice cs are irida, hala, and gladion focused.

[lunar meadow]

I used Abomasnow EX for one of them.

Alolan Sandslash is definitely capable of doing one, but I don't have him. Lots of people cleared with him.

I love Froslass but find BP Froslass useless. You mentioned having G-Moltres, so off-typing is probably easier

[wide adder]

All of my limited units are visible in these

[proud axle]

I think BP Candice can do a clear if she has a good enough co-striker and/or support. I had her and Professor Oak fight Agatha, though that was reset hell. If her partner is better than Oak, you will have a better time than I did

I'd honestly recommend offtyping at least two of the Elite Four since Agatha/Koga/Shauntal are so easy. This'd let you consolidate your best ice attackers into fewer, stronger teams

[noble plaza]

so I don't know if this was a good move but I ended up deciding to do Bertha for R2 instead of Aaron. It took a few tries but I managed to do it with Kimono Grimsley, Roxanne, and Kukui

[proud axle]

Kimono Grimsely can OHKO the right sidekick with turn 2 Metal Burst (he did it on my run), so he's not a bad pick

I paired him with Solgaleo, though

I like dual-strike teams

[noble plaza]

ah I should've done that!

[proud axle]

I think he's a tech, but... Details

[noble plaza]

LMAO

he acts as a striker in most cases so I think it's fair to call him one

my kneejerk reaction was to use Solgaleo but then I saw Kimono Grimsley and I decided to try beating Bertha with him. Interesting that you used both!

Lucian is still giving me a hard time Cause like, the major chip damage comes from Mega Evolved Blue + EX support sync boost but I can't knock the center out pre-sync even with SS Elesa. I might have to post sync this

[quaint solar]

Bro, just watch thegamingeevee F2P Pasio Clear on YouTube

[mellow linden]

Could you show us your Flying roster? We might be able to help you put together a team that works well for the stage

[fleet cove]

first time trying my hands on CSMM 12,5K, dayum it's hard

for Bertha I'm using Jasmine/Hop with either Gloria or Solgaleo. Solgaleo hits harder but also weak to Ground, which cripples me a bit

any recommendations?

[noble plaza]

this is all i got 😭
I do have EX'd Mega Rayquaza but I think its flying moves are physical (and eats up gauge)

[mellow linden]

You don’t need to run a monotype team. Having a different Support than Jasmine might be helpful

[mellow linden]

Flying weak Lucian has no Entry x2 passives, so that’s not an issue. Can do A. Steven + Kahili + an Attack/crit Support

[noble plaza]

A. Steven?

[fleet cove]

might pick someone else. will try, thanks a lot

[mellow linden]

Steven + Rayquaza. Anniversary Steven, or A. Steven

[noble plaza]

OH.
I meant Zinnia's Mega Rayquaza, I'm so sorry 😅

i dont have A. Steven

[mellow linden]

Oh

[noble plaza]

yeahhh my bad

[mellow linden]

Hmmm

[noble plaza]

i totally forgot Steven is decked with a shiny Rayquaza

[mellow linden]

…Do you have SS Acerola, perchance?

[noble plaza]

no

[fleet cove]

@noble plaza do you have Power on Hit parameters set? if yes, a Fly-user to avoid getting hit might work

[mellow linden]

Worth checking

[noble plaza]

haha

[noble plaza]

I think I set it to Power on Hit 1 ^

[mellow linden]

Fly would screw up Sync countdown, it’d be best to avoid it if possible

[fleet cove]

now that is a risk, yes

I've used Falkie and succeeded. though I had SS Ethan too

[nocturne pawn]

isnt power on hit whenever they use an attack move

[fleet cove]

I've beaten Lucian with on-type post-sync parameters and Blue / SS Ethan / Falkner

[mellow linden]

Could try Kahili + Blue + Support if you really want to on-type

[noble plaza]

I think Falkner is best used when he's at 3/5. Mine is 2/5

[zealous karma]

You really think 2/5 blue is strong enough for that?

[nocturne pawn]

definitely

[zealous karma]

Lucian has a lot of Hp

[nocturne pawn]

having aggravation 1 helps a lot

[mellow linden]

But honestly off-typing might be best here

[fleet cove]

I think it triggers when the attack hits, hence "on hit"

[noble plaza]

I have no clue.

[zealous karma]

Oh no j was talking to cobalt lel

[noble plaza]

whoops

[zealous karma]

Do you have any weather setting support?

[noble plaza]

Yeah I have Winona, May, Blaine, SS Erika, sand setters

okay let me just make it easier on all of us

[zealous karma]

I wonder if SSEirika + Zinnia would work but I can’t think of a support that can hard carry gauge like that

Maybe SSB

[noble plaza]

i already used SS Blue 😅

[zealous karma]

Oof

[noble plaza]

What are my off type options?

[zealous karma]

Oh you have ingo perfect

Ingo Zinnia + a defense dwbuffer would be perfect

Unless you used him

[mellow linden]

That could work

[noble plaza]

Nope Ingo's still around

[zealous karma]

Swag

[noble plaza]

that could actually work

[mellow linden]

For off-type options there’s the possibility of SC Subway Bros or an Adaman team, but I’m not certain how well those’d work with them only 1/5

[noble plaza]

I already used Kukui for Bertha but I still have Nanu.

lol my options are Ingo or Ingo

[zealous karma]

Masked Royal?

[noble plaza]

oh i forgot about him lmao

for what it's worth...I have 2 Striker Candies and one golden candy.

[mellow linden]

I wouldn’t candy for 1 week of CS

[noble plaza]

fair enough.

[zealous karma]

I assume Emmet a fav and he loves to have 3/5 so that sounds like a good option and with SCIngo they kill stuff off tupe quite freely

But also true

[noble plaza]

yeah the Submas twins are favs for me

[mellow linden]

If you were planning to candy SC Emmet anyways then yeah, could be worthwhile

But let’s see how Zinnia works 1st

[zealous karma]

Ye

[noble plaza]

I just haven't candied either because I don't want to candy them and then be in a situation where I need one

true true

by the way should I use Zinnia's TM for this?

[zealous karma]

Ye

[noble plaza]

Wait... I just realized that this is round 3.

Rayquaza does nothing because of the damage reduction

Should I just do Aaron for now

[plush tangle]

You should be able to not care about it thanks to crit

special damage reduction is just light screen

[noble plaza]

No it's physical reduction

[plush tangle]

...wait who are you fighting

[noble plaza]

Oh it wears off? Then why does it seem like Rayquaza does nothing?

Lucian

[plush tangle]

yeah you don't care about the reduction

[mellow linden]

As long as you’re buffing crit the physical damage reduction won’t matter

[noble plaza]

Oh

[plush tangle]

rayquaza does nothing because rayquaza is shit but also, do you use weather along rayquaza

[noble plaza]

Yeah I have sand set up

[plush tangle]

so yeah just buff crit

[noble plaza]

And crit boosted because of Ingo's TM

[mellow linden]

Is Zinnia gridded?

[noble plaza]

Yup

Albeit the lucky skill is Dauntless

[zealous karma]

Did you take the Atk +20 tile I’ve noticed a huge diff in the past with it on and off

[noble plaza]

ye i did

[old orchid]

From my experience Zinnia needs dual strike and weather support if you dont have Anni Skyla

Whats your team btw?

[zealous karma]

Masked Royal Ingo

[plush tangle]

Masked... What ? Why ?

[zealous karma]

Defense debuffs

[plush tangle]

Nanu is legit better for that

Since he debuffs faster, more reliably and has flinch

[zealous karma]

I recommended Mr cause he can do it in aoe and they used kukui already

But that’s true

[noble plaza]

yeah im trying out Nanu instead because MR isn't as reliable

should I sync with Zinnia first? I've been trying with Ingo first but aerial ace doesn't do much

[zealous karma]

You should be syncing with zinnia first that’s where her damage comes from

[noble plaza]

yeah clearly

[pure haven]

Man I really don't want to deal with Hoenn CS. How are these teams looking?

[manic kiln]

all those OP units, you should be fine

[outer kestrel]

Who are some good partners for Irida vs Marnie? Note: I’ve got 0 other limited ice type units and I’ve already used the F2P ice type units vs the E4

Been trying for 2 hours lol

[mellow linden]

Drake is Wise Entry x2, so if you have Hala you’d wanna replace Ghetsis with him

[pure haven]

I don't

[mellow linden]

Unfortunate. It might still be doable thanks to Irida, but that’s something to keep an eye on

[pure haven]

Yea

[mellow linden]

As another note, Aaron and Sonia on the same team is redundant, so if you can make a swap there it’d be a good plan

[pure haven]

In any case I know I can beat him with Hilbert, Candice and SC Steven, it just requires a hell lot of RNG to work