To get to 7 special damage ups
#Champion Stadium
half void
zealous karma
Did you use irida zone before or after hau
half void
Before sync two times
noble plaza
Anyone I should save for a specific round for this one?
half void
After sync i use b ice move lower sp def before b electroweb
zealous karma
Dokt do Bertha round one if you’re not using sync accel
half void
I think I understand
I didn't know you couldn't have three zones up
Ice zone would cancel fairy zone
mellow linden
Yes
Zone, weather, and terrain can coexist with field effects from different categories, but cannot coexist with another field effect from the same category.
So you can absolutely have Hail, Fairy Zone, and Electric Terrain, but if you set Ice Zone it'll cancel out Fairy Zone and vice versa
north crown
I'm trying pre and post sync and I can't do it
if u want tp use zinnia, bring weather
pure haven
if u want tp use zinnia, bring weather
Already did that, didn't end well
The one I sent gave me the best results so far
mellow linden
Is Zinnia a must to use or no?
meager agate
Hem In 2 is really funny
north crown
Already did that, didn't end well
not even ssacerola?
zealous karma
I'm trying pre and post sync and I can't do it
Why did you replace bulu?
meager agate
It eats Discombobulate for breakfast
pure haven
Is Zinnia a must to use or no?
The other flying type striker I have is Blue
mellow linden
And the rest of your Flying roster? It doesn’t have to be a Strike pair
mellow linden
If SS Acerola + Zinnia + SC Steven fails you could try SS Acerola + Zinnia + Darach
nocturne pawn
damn if only he was 3/5
mellow linden
2/5 still gets Pecking Order grid tile
north crown
ssace is goated
nocturne pawn
oh yeah
mellow linden
It just means no Brave Bird if it can be helped
nocturne pawn
actually sc steven darach ss ace should wreck it
seun and then you can stack pmun for a kamikaze
north crown
I'd still suggest running zinnia, as her flying dps is actually good compared to 2/5 darach
quaint solar
Don't know who you have fully. Bring an EX Blue, EX Support with Potion and a Flincher.
north crown
nah ssacerola should be able to carry zinnia
paper summit
besides, EX support with Blue is not gonna cut it because he wants to sync asap to access Hurricane...
pure haven
Do I sunny day at the begginig or right before sync?
mellow linden
Don't know who you have fully. Bring an EX Blue, EX Support with Potion and a Fl...
Blue is worse than Zinnia + Darach + SS Acerola
By a significant margin
nocturne pawn
I'd still suggest running zinnia, as her flying dps is actually good compared to...
i mean nuke is probably the bigger issue here sides arent that dangerous
quaint solar
Blue is worse than Zinnia + Darach + SS Acerola
Just giving the advice of what I did.
mellow linden
I'd suggest mentioning that when you give the advice in the future, so as to avoid confusion
craggy glade
Bro I swear to god does Lucian secretly have vigilance on him
Every time I sync he doesn't get crit
grand steppe
That’s a pretty stacked team
zealous karma
Some pairs need to sync first to get their main damaging move
mellow linden
Yeah, Zinnia needs to take 1st Sync if she’s acting as a Flying damage-dealer
zealous karma
Karen blue are notable ones
Some get more damage from their sync than supp ex like Zerena and diantha
grand steppe
Most transforming sync pairs except for a 
nocturne pawn
well steven has haymaker so its not that bad even so
zealous karma
Anni steven doesn’t have haymaker
hushed sorrel
So I’m giving up 12.5k this week lols Bertha is too haxx for newbies like me
grand steppe
well steven has haymaker so its not that bad even so
“A” Steven. Not all.
Mr. Less than 300 ATK when EX Steven. 🫠
zealous karma
I believe he’s the only mega pair to not get more than one stat from mega
zealous karma
Do you have colress? I’d replace masked for him
nocturne pawn
that team should work
also why is colress recommended?
does it have less paralysis mitigation
zealous karma
I don’t think he existed when this CS debuted
grand steppe
@tribal agate
nocturne pawn
is he just randomly good for the stage then
zealous karma
I was recommending him for type skill and has aoe def sebuffs
He has screech ripple effect
pure haven
Do you have colress? I’d replace masked for him
Nope
zealous karma
Oh than MR is fine just sync with Solgaleo first tho
grand steppe
Just kill her on the 1st sync 
pure haven
nocturne pawn
bertha you either have to have an extremely good first sync or deny with kos on side or flinches for double sync
grand steppe
Solgaleo doesn’t have any super prep right?
grand steppe
Weel do you have Snorlax Red?
pure haven
Why EX Blue on Bertha 
?
quaint solar
Why EX Blue on Bertha <:IrisDerp:746569630960713759> ?
You still stuck at the flying weak stage right?
nocturne pawn
3/5 falkner has aggravation 1 id try using flinch to deny sides to get the second sync
your options for dps are very limited though
quaint solar
Cleared it earlier
Your Only steel stricker is Solgaleo 🤔
pure haven
3/5 falkner has aggravation 1 id try using flinch to deny sides to get the secon...
Sides aren't a problem actually
They die on solgaleo first sync
grand steppe
If you had saved Steven you could’ve easily one shotted the stage with haymaker solgaleo
Let me see if A Grinsley makes a difference
nocturne pawn
i dont see kimono grimsley
quaint solar
Why EX Blue on Bertha <:IrisDerp:746569630960713759> ?
Use thegamingeevee on YouTube team if you have it available.
grand steppe
Can’t be done with Aaron, you need either super up or phys up
pure haven
Hmmm
quaint solar
Can’t be done with Aaron, you need either super up or phys up
You couldn't flinch it to Sync twice with that team 🤔
grand steppe
You couldn't flinch it to Sync twice with that team 🤔
That’s with -2 countdown and zero bulk (aka only +2 strength), she starts off with countdown: 3 in that.
pure haven
What about posion stall and just forget about this stage?
zealous karma
can always off type with ncmarnie
pure haven
I think I can beat cynthia and flint pretty easilty with what I have
pure haven
~~can always off type with ncmarnie~~
Not a bad idea actually
tribal agate
grand steppe
Solgaleo should be able to handle that stage even post sync
pure haven
zealous karma
Solgaleo should be able to handle that stage even post sync
Her sync is super effective against him
zealous karma
Grimsley with seun and maxed out multipliers should be able to one shot center even without ex
And at 1/5
nocturne pawn
wait do they have grimsley
pure haven
Nope
grand steppe
He doesn’t have a grimsley, but you can use nanu for screech
zealous karma
Can’t be done with Aaron, you need either super up or phys up
I thought they posted this woops
grand steppe
But no steel theme skills
That inflated hp is the difference between some damage rolls I figure
The turbo 1st sync route needs super up, or a quad queue with 1-2 phys up.
zealous karma
Can’t imagine they have that
pure haven
Prolly just gonna brute force with cMarnie at this point
zealous karma
Fair
quaint solar
Prolly just gonna brute force with cMarnie at this point
Do you have the team I showed you available in that picture?
grand steppe
Sides have wise entry x3 tho In Bertha
quaint solar
Nanu + Aaron would be a better option than the image you showe
I believe Aaron is used for Round 5
That's what I had to use anyways
grand steppe
Aaron’s precision pals, is only at 3/5
Which is why he’s recommended for Cynthia
I think they only have 2/5
Hop would boost sol’s atk though, cause of themes
zealous karma
quaint solar
You won. Congrats. Yo sages and Cobaltsteel Won't he have a Nuke issue without Aaron. On R5 now?
mellow linden
Aaron contributes no more to the majority of Sync nukes than any other Attack/crit Support
nocturne pawn
^
zealous karma
I actually got crit rock slides and cause I run strike and tech x3 I died
quaint solar
why would it be a nuke issue
Take Damage from nuke on R5
nocturne pawn
bertha shouldnt be syncing regardless
the point of that is to show that double sync is possible
zealous karma
Her not syncing is kinda hard
Unless you flinch/side deny like I did in that video
nocturne pawn
Take Damage from nuke on R5
uh cynthia doesnt have multipliers for lowered accuracy its just an annoyance
quaint solar
the point of that is to show that double sync is possible
Well i couldn't double sync R5. Had to use Aaron to survice the sync
mellow linden
If Cynthia got to Sync with Bea that sounds like a parameter or gameplay issue
nocturne pawn
tbh if you have 3/5 bea fighting weak cynthia should be a pushover
quaint solar
tbh if you have 3/5 bea fighting weak cynthia should be a pushover
I couldn't double sync it with Bae. CobaltSteel told me to use Aaron to service the sync. That's just my luck I suppose
nocturne pawn
if you use hilbert you can basically kill her by the first sync
mellow linden
I recommended Aaron so you could push out enough damage to KO center before they Synced
mellow linden
Because before you had no one to buff Bea’s Attack and so she was wasting 2 turns buffing herself when she could have been using those turns on Meteor Assaults to squeeze out more damage, in addition to actually getting to +6 Attack
If the opponent Synced despite that it’s likely a parameter or gameplay issue
quaint solar
I recommended Aaron so you could push out enough damage to KO center before they...
That did not happened in my run. 😅 I spamed defend order and heal order to survive the sync the second sync right after
zealous karma
That just means you missed a quad queue
mellow linden
So you didn’t quadqueue, despite me recommending Aaron or Hilbert as the Attack + crit Support specifically so you could quadqueue
nocturne pawn
🗿
what params did you even take
cynthia was 95% dead by the time bea synced in my run
quaint solar
cynthia was 95% dead by the time bea synced in my run
That is correct in my run. But Cynthia got to her sync B4 I did.
mellow linden
Lack of quadqueue
mellow linden
Again, quadqueue was the reason I specifically suggested Aaron or Hilbert as the Attack/crit Support, otherwise any Attack/crit Support would have worked
zealous karma
You cleared the stage already midknight so there’s no Fret
quaint solar
Just saying. Lol. Double sync did happen for me. I survived the sync theb second sync with Bae. Stage cleared.
mellow linden
Yeah, if it works it works, just keep quadqueue in mind for the future if you have trouble surviving enemy Sync
zealous karma
Welp I give up, gonna do posion stall
Did you not see the video I sent?
pure haven
Yeah but idk if I can play around flinching
I'm too bad at that
Gonna try anyways tho
Do u have Nanu grided?
zealous karma
If you just follow whay I did it should be fine the only issue that would arise if the foe uses a stat boosting move instead of an Atk
zealous karma
Do u have Nanu grided?
Yes but it shouldn’t really matter I have fast track and critical focus
zealous karma
Ye well I have my own params but the ones in pins should be fine
tired sleet
What round is this fight?
pure haven
I'll just poison stall and pray I can clear Flint and Cynthia
pure haven
What round is this fight?
R3
quaint solar
Bertha's giving me trouble
I don't understand stand. You posted a video earlier defeating Bertha
mellow linden
Richu was the one who posted the Bertha clear
quaint solar
Richu was the one who posted the Bertha clear
Woops 😅
mellow linden
Speaking of the Bertha fight though, consider waiting to do her for round 4 if you’re Poison stalling, since it’ll increase the damage dealt by Poison and (if you use it) Trapped
quaint solar
Bertha's giving me trouble
Who you got for Bertha then?
mellow linden
They’re planning to Poison stall rn
pure haven
Yeah
mellow linden
Which for Bertha specifically may be either as easy or slightly easier than an offense clear depending on roster
quaint solar
They’re planning to Poison stall rn
From my experience. Shouldn't they poison stall Flying/Fighting 🤔 Those to 2 stages where their nukes are really 💪 .
mellow linden
They’ve already cleared Lucian and Cynthia can potentially be done extremely easily depending on roster
Not to mention that you can, y’know, have multiple Poison stall teams
north crown
anything new?
pure haven
Man Bertha's giving me trouble even with psn stall wth
old orchid
what team are you using?
pure haven
Lucy, Sycamore and Janine
mellow linden
And what parameters?
pure haven
The ones pinned
old orchid
i dont see a defense buffer there
mellow linden
Just making sure. What specifically is going wrong?
pure haven
I'm dying
mellow linden
Also yeah, a Defense buffer would be better than Sycamore here. Skyla’s a nice option if she’s available
mellow linden
I'm dying <:LarryDead:1090014801654198383>
Yes, but how and possibly when
old orchid
he is good yes
mellow linden
If the issue is crits, for example, it can be easily remedied by giving Vigilance to everyone
mellow linden
I mean bp Morty
BP Morty’s a good pick, yeah. Just be careful about Astonish since flinch will slow things down a bit
old orchid
or just spam Confuse Ray
grid him with full heal and Synchro Healing
and sync with him for heal
quaint solar
I mean bp Morty
Use EX Support Misty for poison Stall, in my opinion.
old orchid
you mean Swimsuit Misty? cuz OG Misty doesnt have EX yet
mellow linden
MistyDuck can work, but does take more opening RNG
old orchid
BP Morty is better than her in every way
tired sleet
Why would you need exed units for stall
mellow linden
BP Morty has more reliable buffs and Confuse Ray as additional advantage
tame gust
Amazed that OG Misty and Brock still can’t ex
mellow linden
Also yeah, EX is not required for stall
tame gust
Possible bulk?
mellow linden
Most Supports you’d use in Poison stall are bulky enough without EX
pure haven
Do I grab Master healer or MP refresh for potion?
quaint solar
Don't understand why BP morty is better than Misty. BP morty does not have stop hitting yourself
tame gust
Wonder if there’s some psychopath out there that’s done 2.5k Sinnoh CS with Eggmon..
mellow linden
In what universe does Misty have any confusion related stuff
nocturne pawn
Don't understand why BP morty is better than Misty. BP morty does not have stop ...
he gas better bulk and more consistent buffs and better healing
pure haven
Can't grab both and synchro healing
nocturne pawn
stop hitting yourself isnt even relevant for stall regardless
paper summit
Misty doesn't have potions either
tame gust
BP morty has consistency.
old orchid
confusion doesnt matter anyway
old orchid
Misty doesn't have potions either
Mistyduck has Potion, but Morty's is better
quaint solar
Misty doesn't have potions either
Talking about phsyduck
mellow linden
Can't grab both and synchro healing
Hold on, lemme see what I can work with here
paper summit
tbf Misty does have synchro healing
tame gust
Wish those event units had another run.
old orchid
Can't grab both and synchro healing
try this
paper summit
you have nothing better to do when stalling, so that's a healing source, the problem is how long it takes
however, Morty also has this, so meh 
mellow linden
The biggest issue with MistyDuck is lack of consistency on defensive buffs
nocturne pawn
yeah mistyduck is just worse for poison stall vs bp morty
mellow linden
Trying to stall with only +2 to both defenses is brutal, so you basically have to reset for MP Refresh RNG. Not a massive deal, but since BP Morty also has the extra nudge of Confuse Ray he does slightly edge her out
old orchid
she could work in easier regions where opponents dont hit hard like Bertha
mellow linden
Now if Bertha had any sort of even semi-reliable DoT infliction it would be a different story
Because at that point MistyDuck’s Full Heal would give her an additional edge
quaint solar
yeah mistyduck is just worse for poison stall vs bp morty
I actually did not even notice he has Sync Healing. Looking at his grid. You are correct. Morty is above Misty.
pure haven
Well bp Morty ended being sooo good with psn stall lol
Gonna start saving Sycamore for something else
old orchid
mellow linden
What’s the team again?
north crown
atk buffer, bea, masked royal
paper summit
what's Lillie doing there?
mellow linden
Ah. Sync Buffs effectiveness increase for parameter then. I assume Lillie is there for accuracy buffs
pure haven
what's Lillie doing there?
Someone told me to bring acc buffer
paper summit
oh right, ngl I completely forgot Cynthia has that nonsense
north crown
if you're worried about accuracy, you could just run hilbert wally
old orchid
if you're worried about accuracy, you could just run hilbert wally
Bea and Hilbert are good duo, its just Lillie standing there with no purpose outside of acc buffs
mellow linden
Tbf since Hilbert is tanking an accuracy buffer is a bit less important since Bea would only be at -1, but it’s not a huge deal. Worst case scenario Lillie can be replaced later
old orchid
gridded Maylene is more useful since she both buffs acc and debuff defense
pure haven
old orchid
no worries
pure haven
She's not gridded but I have around 14k orbs
old orchid
she is useful with grid so its worth gridding her
quaint solar
Precision pals right?
Did you already use Aaron?
mellow linden
Aaron is less important here since they have Hilbert
tame gust
Which trainer was it that got more oppressive with buffs this week? SC Zinnia wants to know their location.
old orchid
Flint
mellow linden
Water weak Flint has Good Form, if that’s what you mean
old orchid
he also has Rising Tide
pure haven
old orchid
yes very good
tame gust
It is indeed. So yeah, SC Zinni lookin to catch a body or three. I know she won’t be hitting for SE, but she’s on my mind to shut down a possible snowball
paper summit
Water weak Flint has Good Form, if that’s what you mean
fun, guess they wanted to try and counter every stacked water pair we have and failed miserably
old orchid
if you grid Pep Rally on Maylene, Bea doesnt need an extra turn to max speed by herself
north crown
perhasp they could get away with a different support other than hilbert cuz maylene already maxes bea's crit and a bit of attack if really needed
paper summit
does it matter? it's the champion battle...
no need to save anything at all
a bit of redundancy isn't the end of the world
pure haven
Well that was easy
tame gust
Makes me sad that Lucian has sentry this week. Would’ve loved to dunk on him with Fletchling
pure haven
First try lol
pure haven
Only Bertha gave me trouble this week
mellow linden
Makes me sad that Lucian has sentry this week. Would’ve loved to dunk on him wit...
Lucian has no entry x2 passives this week
He’s just bulky
tame gust
Oh he doesn’t? I thought someone did or was that last week?
paper summit
Aaron does
mellow linden
The sides on Steel weak Bertha have Wise Entry x3 and Electric weak Aaron has Sentry Entry x2
paper summit
Lucian only has Wise Entry x2, on all stages but flying, this guy hates special attackers, smh
tame gust
Steel has Sp.attackers?!
also RIP Aaron with that cracked defense. 1/5 Zekrom damage will be annoying to punch over that
paper summit
regular pairs only one, Raihan has Steel Beam
old orchid
SC Shauna and SC Jasmine erasure
paper summit
sure, I don't count support striker memes
and Thorton is just plain trash
there is also striker Perrserker but that one is not the most accessible
mellow linden
That Bertha psn stall tho <:LarryDead:1090014801654198383>
You used Lucy, it’s automatically a good battle
dusty path
Don't mind me struggling with Bertha, trying to use Jasmine/Hop + PalMarnie + KGrimsley... Still with Physical Damage Reduction 8...
mellow linden
My condolences
dusty path
It's alright... I opened this channel to look for a suggested parameters and saw a poison stall, started switching over attack to defense parameters and saw it 😂
Still did defense parameters, but with Special DR8
dusty path
Asking here because no one would use these two together in gauntlet, but... SSTRed and SSHau together, would their passives stack? Because they have different names so I'd expect it to I guess?
To extend electric terrain
old orchid
they do stack
paper summit
hmm? Hau's passive is not master anyway
dusty path
Ooo
paper summit
oh, that
dusty path
Sorry yeah, that one
dusty path
If you used something like maxie and 3/5 adaman, do the alerts stack??
paper summit
yes
dusty path
Oh okay, thought they might not since they have the same name
Unless maybe... Never mind, idk 😅
Thanks
mellow linden
Best of luck with Ice weak CS tomorrow, everyone!
paper summit
Oh okay, thought they might not since they have the same name
Unless maybe... Ne...
the same name thing is mostly referring to master passives
those are the ones that won't both stack if they have the exact same name, as in same region and all, only one will activate in that case
dusty path
Okay, I was thinking more... This ET extension is normallength * extension1 * extension2, rather than possibly normallength * (extension1 + extension2) if they were the same name, different numbers would be fine
quaint solar
Best of luck with Ice weak CS tomorrow, everyone!
Pasio is all Ice types 🤔
So, they are going to unlock Wulfric EX tomorrow 2.
grand steppe
Pasio is all Ice types 🤔
So, they are going to unlock Wulfric EX tomorrow 2.
Any new EXs probably won't unlock until 7/25, after the event would be over. I don't recall them unlocking an EX for the last one?
mellow linden
They already released the new EX for this month, we won’t get another until Masters Day next month
quaint solar
I was just thinking why would they release all Ice type and not have all the F2P ice types have EX at least.
quaint solar
Which grass F2P striker don't have EX?
mellow linden
Technically they’re not free (but neither is Wulfric), but Gardenia and Ramos still lack EX
Amongst the Ice types, Wulfric, Lorelei, and Brycen lack EX
grand steppe
except Lorelei do they even have multipliers
freezer burn 5 & heavy hail 5 for brycen
grand steppe
they got done dirty 
mellow linden
Ice definitely has a few wacky players
Wulfric at least has a Sync modifier, look at Pryce
grand steppe
I ex'd Hala for the new CS. I've really underestimated him.
paper summit
imagine not EXing the guy long ago, I did it as soon as I got access to Haymaker, funny monster goes brrr
mellow linden
Hala’s legitimately solid, he’s got a spot on one of my teams tomorrow for sure
old orchid
Wulfric at least has a Sync modifier, look at Pryce
tbf Pryce has Freeze Synergy 16 
mellow linden
Plus Invigorating Hail 6
nocturne pawn
tbf Pryce has Freeze Synergy 16 <:WulfricKEKW:725004521377497109>
good luck landing the freeze
paper summit
too bad he has very low freeze chance on his own
grand steppe
oh great now I need to make a write up for Ice-CS
mellow linden
Point Number 1: It’s OK to Off-Type
nocturne pawn
oh great now I need to make a write up for Ice-CS
well the only things that are notable is marnie having healthy advantage 4 and drake having wise entry x2 and sand + passives
zealous karma
good luck landing the freeze
Ghetsus happy face
grand steppe
only Drake & Shauntal have reduced Freeze mitigation
nocturne pawn
Point Number 1: It’s OK to Off-Type
and that
nocturne pawn
Ghetsus happy face
ghetsis more like 🚮
grand steppe
only Drake & Shauntal have reduced Freeze mitigation
so use Pryce for one of these stages
nocturne pawn
this is a joke
paper summit
yeah, I'll off type some just to save all my fire power to decimate Marnie, that's my only goal tomorrow
old orchid
me nuking Shauntal with Sconia, def an Ice type sync pair
grand steppe
well the only things that are notable is marnie having healthy advantage 4 and d...
Okay so just Shauntal for pyrce 
paper summit
irrational hate is always funny
mellow linden
I’m only on-typing everything because I legitimately have the Ice roster to reasonably do so, and one of those teams is gonna be real wacky since I like Lorelei and wanna see how she nukes
old orchid
||Glacia dps with Frost Breathe||
paper summit
you joke but there is 100% someone out there that will use her as a damage dealer
old orchid
me
nocturne pawn
I’m only on-typing everything because I legitimately have the Ice roster to reas...
the answer is poorly
grand steppe
me nuking Shauntal with Sconia, def an Ice type sync pair
Sonia (Holiday 2023) & Snom 
nocturne pawn
her stats are bad and freeze innate is cringe
mellow linden
I fully expect that to be one of my hardest fights despite planning to do it on one of the easiest stages
I’ve at least got BP Candice on that team as well for some extra damage output
Together they might add up to the equivalent of a single Hala, idk
nocturne pawn
~~Together they might add up to the equivalent of a single Hala, idk~~
a quarter of a hala
zealous karma
Something feels off about these teams even tho I know they’re good teams but idk what 
If I were to be clearing normally I’d do this unfortunately I’m playing by the hand of optimize
paper summit
oh you meant the ice cs with optimize? what's wrong with you? smh
nocturne pawn
that ghetsis team looks awful for gauge
zealous karma
I’ve had Brendan on teams with worse gauge
zealous karma
That Drake team is massive oof
He has wise entry x2 wth
mellow linden
Yep
paper summit
just swap it with Bertha's
nocturne pawn
well the only things that are notable is marnie having healthy advantage 4 and d...
.
zealous karma
I’ll move the Bertha team there than
nocturne pawn
at least she has hail
grand steppe
Something feels off about these teams even tho I know they’re good teams but idk...
is this silver still 1/5
mellow linden
I see you too have been bamboozled by thinking Bertha was part of Ice weak CS, lol
paper summit
I see you too have been bamboozled by thinking Bertha was part of Ice weak CS, l...
you are right... tbf Bertha in sprite form kind of looked like Agatha 2.0 to me
this was before I was actually familiar with how she looks like
zealous karma
Wait is not icr Bertha I’m free
mellow linden
I was more talking to Richu with that remark, but I can now see that there are dozens of us
zealous karma
I forgot ice week koga even existed
paper summit
ok, so it's 3 whatever battles, then Drake and Marnie
zealous karma
Ye
mellow linden
Meanwhile, my biggest concern is either Koga or Agatha (whoever I use the wacky Lorelei team against)
zealous karma
I thought it was Bertha cause she’s the more difficult stage
Although ice agatha used to torment me when I was new
paper summit
Agatha has Satisfied Snarl 3? ngl I'm surprised to find such a thing in a Kanto CS stage
mellow linden
Yeah, it’s wack
old orchid
fortunately she doesnt have Ripple Effect 9
mellow linden
And no AoE moves, which is nice
paper summit
right, no wonder it's never been an issue to actually notice
noble plaza
Having a bit of trouble with Lucian. Tried Morty, EX Skyla, and Blue + Pidgeot but that didn't work well with Blue Mega Evolving so late. Tried with Roxanne next but the sides would knock me out
old orchid
replace Morty with SS Elesa
noble plaza
Oh I meant BP Morty btw, sorry
noble plaza
ohh okay that makes sense
old orchid
more MPR = more sync
noble plaza
ye
quaint solar
Having a bit of trouble with Lucian. Tried Morty, EX Skyla, and Blue + Pidgeot b...
You don't need EX Skyla and EX BP Morty
grand steppe
Ice-Weak Special Stadium til July 12th UTC
noble plaza
hi sages
old orchid
this is R2 by the way
do it on R3 instead
grave wyvern
grand steppe
sorry for interrupting
noble plaza
nbd
nocturne pawn
wait can agatha kill herself with tm
zealous karma
yes
tired sleet
Yeah
noble plaza
I tried Aaron earlier but I couldn't get good damage to the Vespiquen.
old orchid
what team are you using?
noble plaza
i tried with lillie (with clefairy), hau, and bp lt. surge
old orchid
bring Volkner
noble plaza
i dont think i have him
old orchid
and use better tank than Surge
noble plaza
i mainly brought him for paralysis
noble plaza
fair
old orchid
Sabrina Lucian Hau then
noble plaza
i was thinking sabrina too actually LMFAO
old orchid
might have to post sync
noble plaza
yeah i might have to
old orchid
alternatively you can bring a flincher to stop Aaron from using Heal Order
noble plaza
i tried lucian earlier too and it deals with the sides no problem
flinch stops that?
quaint solar
Who you kill for Round 1 then?
nocturne pawn
i like how everyone complains about flint and bertha meanwhile aaron and lucian make me want to die
not saying that as shade but its a funny observation ive made
grand steppe
I used Pikachu to kill Aaron, and I mean MC.
nocturne pawn
maybe it was cuz ground and bug weak were the same week
noble plaza
i forgot that MC + Pikachu exists
nocturne pawn
i just off typed because heal order pisses me the fuck off lmao
noble plaza
totally fair
nocturne pawn
also i actually had such bad rng
noble plaza
north crown
@noble plaza perhaps you can use 3/5 sabrina, hau, sleeper
grand steppe
I used Pikachu to kill Aaron, and I mean MC.
#1011736960701829191 message
north crown
https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1011736960701829191/112292044131...
Seup 💀
Speaking of, Nyla do u have any pair that gives seup?
mellow linden
Supereffective Up
nocturne pawn
super effective up next
north crown
That
noble plaza
not to another pair I don't think
nocturne pawn
theres only like 5 units who apply that to a specific unit
grand steppe
Seup 💀
I didn't use SEUP to KO Aaron, it was actually overkill on the sides as well.
The main thing is a support that buffs crit and paralyzes.
blazing lake
theres only like 5 units who apply that to a specific unit
Anni Raihan gets to apply aoe
nocturne pawn
mcchu getting 29k was kind of terrifying
noble plaza
quaint solar
Since he did water 1st, should he not go to electric next then go to flying after 🤔
noble plaza
aaron is electric
grand steppe
well, if you do decide to use Pikachu, lowering aaron's atk is a good way to enable Power Reserves for a post-sync clear
that's why I used Lucian
Is your Hau ex?
Oh he's 3/5 ex. hmmm
noble plaza
yeah
grand steppe
Yeah, you should just bring a flinch or sleeper
north crown
Actually better question: do you have any special dps offtype pairs?
noble plaza
not a bad idea actually
north crown
Offtype might be easier depending on your roster
noble plaza
here
north crown
Yeah, you should just bring a flinch or sleeper
Bruh I said dis 2
noble plaza
I know I just wanted to try with Lucian first
old orchid
based on your roster EX Hau is still the best option
quaint solar
If you using blue like I did. I would have used him either in R1 or R3
grand steppe
Nyla, next time you export your roster, try and apply a sort. It's hard to locate pairs when I don't know the sort order.
noble plaza
i sorted by role
north crown
Wow 3/5 sabrina
noble plaza
didn't you recommend that last time?
grand steppe
okay so I think Role then release date it seems.
old orchid
enable the "Show separators" button as well
old orchid
thats a lot better
quaint solar
tbf Pryce has Freeze Synergy 16 <:WulfricKEKW:725004521377497109>
Did you test it yet?
mellow linden
Pryce has been a known factor for like a year or more now
noble plaza
which sleeper/flincher should I use for this one?
north crown
Oo bp/e giovanni
grand steppe
this is already so much better
You can press the sort buttons in sequence to apply secondary sorts. Like if press Sort by type, and then sort by role, it should be extra sorted.
mellow linden
He doesn’t need to be tested again, we know Freeze-based modifiers are “meh”
old orchid
which sleeper/flincher should I use for this one?
Serena
noble plaza
You can press the sort buttons in sequence to apply secondary sorts. Like if pre...
you can??? holy crap
north crown
Eh sabrina is better cuz speed buffs
grand steppe
wouldn't Elio be good to buff Hau? Whose the support for the team
quaint solar
which sleeper/flincher should I use for this one?
Do you not have volkner?
mellow linden
They do not
noble plaza
am I supposed to??? 😭
north crown
wouldn't Elio be good to buff Hau? Whose the support for the team
That’s if you want to deal with 90% acc sing
grand steppe
mine has troublemaker 1
mellow linden
Nah, it’s doable without Volkner, he just makes it easier
north crown
It’s not bad, but it isn’t guaranteed
north crown
mine has troublemaker 1
Still 90
quaint solar
He doesn’t need to be tested again, we know Freeze-based modifiers are “meh”
Well kill my existing curiosity
grand steppe
Hmm, well it's enough for 1 denial
north crown
I just wanted to state that Elio’s sing is not reliable as in guaranteed
old orchid
you just need to stop the Heal Order
noble plaza
zealous karma
i just off typed because heal order pisses me the fuck off lmao
Hau is so cool
tho
grand steppe
you can??? holy crap
noble plaza
grand steppe
so much more readable
old orchid
very satisfying to look into
zealous karma
you fdont have Volkner is that correct nyla?
noble plaza
no
quaint solar
I would say
EX Hau and Raichu
EX Support
Flincher at 30% and above
grand steppe
how many times we gonna establish this
noble plaza
i know 😭
zealous karma
horse
noble plaza
paper summit
what happens when random people chime in without reading a full convo 
north crown
For the EX support, ssb works
Tho I would consider exing sabrina and use her instead
noble plaza
i literally need 5 more CS spirits to ex someone 
Honestly I like Sabrina but she isn't very bulky
zealous karma
she can be very frail especially if she doesnt have sentry entry
noble plaza
yeah i gave her vigilance
quaint solar
yeah i gave her vigilance
I am late probably, but I failed to mention to have that support give Hau +3 Crit. Woops 😅
quaint solar
yeah i gave her vigilance
Mhm.....your Normal type Giovanni is not EX
noble plaza
im aware, school got in the way
quaint solar
im aware, school got in the way
What you got for EX supports
Or they ready helped you on that?
noble plaza
.
old orchid
they have got teams already, please read the full convo before attempting to help
tired sleet
im aware, school got in the way
Dw, they never handed out his 
for free
It’s not that uncommon to have an unexed c!gio
quaint solar
Oh, I am assuming they said.
Normal Giovanni
Water Blue
Electric Hau
noble plaza
Dw, they never handed out his <:iGoldPowerUp:799684179880837121> for free
It’s n...
oh sweet haha
grand steppe
those sync-up pairs, like bugsy, misty, blue, and giovanni only got raised to 5 
0/20.
from event rewards
zealous karma
those sync-up pairs, like bugsy, misty, blue, and giovanni only got raised to 5 ...
(Kali and helena)
old orchid
erasure
zealous karma
i seriously forgor
grand steppe
them too, but they aren't "sync-up" pairs
zealous karma
o
proud axle
Hm... They were tagalongs in seasonals rather than having their own dedicated Team-Up events huh
grand steppe
that and they started at 3 
zealous karma
their events sucked to grind too Helena being the worst one for me
cosmic vortex
Hope this team is good enough for ice weak special CS 
paper summit
you'll be fine...
cosmic vortex
Oh right I haven't change grid to blizzard build lusamine
quaint solar
Hope this team is good enough for ice weak special CS <:CyrusSweat:6127936987989...
What's the point of flying stiker?
cosmic vortex
What's the point of flying stiker?
Johto spirit
dusty yarrow
So... Roxie is something...
quaint solar
So... Roxie is something...
How many times you had to sync
dusty yarrow
well its R1 (Sync Buff+ Parameter) w/ 4 Sync Buffs...
otherwise it might just deal 8-10k Sync Dmg without the round parameter
quaint solar
Johto spirit
Won't you have MG issues with that team
cosmic vortex
Won't you have MG issues with that team
What issue?
Move gauge?
Ssethan just gonna hit once in 2 turns
tired sleet
Eusine and Ethan are both very gauge friendly and kris has gauge accel
cosmic vortex
Gonna use tm aeroblast tm aeroblast
Sskris got racing rain
Also ssethan help set up aoe whirlpool for trap
So eusine can just blizzard
quaint solar
Hope this team is good enough for ice weak special CS <:CyrusSweat:6127936987989...
Your teams are unusual to me. But hey. If it works. It works.
cosmic vortex
Not sure which part is unusual, but ok
This team gauge is way harder than that team
As 0 speed buffs and speed passives
Eusine gain 1 gauge with every enemy hit, ssethan hit once in 2 turns, sskris give team speed when hit plus racing rain
dusty yarrow
Compared to what I've cooked with the Ice CS Event... mine is more unusual and a somewhat harder chance to win XD...
paper summit
I'd say only the Lorelei one is a bit sketchy
quaint solar
God darn it. I need irida and glaceon or Nessa and Ice Face
paper summit
the other ones not so much
cosmic vortex
Im a stubborn guy, i refuse to use non legendaries/mythicals/UBs so i came up with those teams
Lorelei lapras team is pretty based
quaint solar
Compared to what I've cooked with the Ice CS Event... mine is more unusual and a...
You have this team instead?
dusty yarrow
Compared to what I've cooked with the Ice CS Event... mine is more unusual and a...
I mean... Idiot me does this ahead of time and still made an unoptimal team to run
(its just more I wanna run these cuz "faves", not that they would work well)
tired sleet
(Not that you need status conditions when using SS N)
dusty yarrow
You have this team instead?
Don't have it and never will
f2p you can't have everything...
- says the idiot (me) who is 298/400 on the Irida Banner and still hasn't gotten her
tired sleet
Rosanta isn’t very good anyway 
quaint solar
Don't have it and never will
f2p you can't have everything...
- says the id...
This then?
dusty yarrow
I don't have Holiday Rosa
old orchid
Everyone has different roster
cosmic vortex
dusty yarrow
also... I can see the Flinch synergy shit with the 2 stevens but I wanna run the Summer Steven and X Mas Nessa Hail team against Drake since Drake has the weird Sandstorm gimmick
although Double Candice is an alt option
tired sleet
Nessa’s flinch chances are higher than Lisia anyway
quaint solar
I mean... Idiot me does this ahead of time and still made an unoptimal team to r...
You tried splitting up the two hail setters you have
I don't know what you have, just assuming the best. 😊
I see 4 DPS and 1 poison stall
cosmic vortex
Is there any of Pla5ma team that use poison though?
quaint solar
Is there any of Pla5ma team that use poison though?
That is my suggestion. That's what i ment by that
dusty yarrow
I would split but running double Candice is funny & yeah Drake's Sandstorm gimmick...
also, my roster is big but not that strong (f2p, started since 1st Anni)
the teams are just the different teams I'm familiar, used and run in different CS Ice Weaks (except the Champion team, its a bit new)
cosmic vortex
That is my suggestion. That's what i ment by that
Oh because you said, you see...and all i can see here was Pla5ma teams and my teams, both doesn't use poison so i confused
dusty yarrow
CS Oldies (back during the 7.5k era) recognize the familiar Ghetsis, Pryce, Sycamore people love/hate to run for Ice Weaks back in those days
even though the team has the familiar Gauge issue, Im already used to it (+ maybe the buffs on Ghetsis kinda solve but we'll see)
cosmic vortex
Ghetsis having glaciate mg9 and glaciate mg3 does helps
quaint solar
I would split but running double Candice is funny<:RileyHaha:612408184669470730>...
You should try to split them up.
That's what I would do. Mines are unfinished though.
proud axle
even though the team has the familiar Gauge issue, Im already used to it (+ mayb...
One way to get around the gauge problem is to have Ghetsis focus on his sync nuke-- which means using 2bar Noble Roar instead of 4bar Glaciate on three of his turns
north crown
You should try to split them up.
That's what I would do. Mines are unfinished th...
for candice, I would recommend using a flincher/sleep pair so she doesn't have to take many hits after mid dies
quaint solar
One way to get around the gauge problem is to have Ghetsis focus on his sync nuk...
Anyone else has high freeze rate?
north crown
pryce lmao
I wouldn't advise you to rely on freeze for the mandatory status condition. I would just straight up replace pryce with some paralysis utility unit if you're using ghetsis on cmarnie
north crown
I mean... Idiot me does this ahead of time and still made an unoptimal team to r...
thanks! I'll just leech off this image to build my teams 
quaint solar
I wouldn't advise you to rely on freeze for the mandatory status condition. I wo...
You want me to use Ghetsis as the Striker ? That's what your recommending
north crown
You want me to use Ghetsis as the Striker ? That's what your recommending
yeah. have you tried using ghetsis as sole dps yet? so much better teambuilding wise
- he has paralysis multipler too
river pagoda
Does the physical damage reduction round act the same way as the move
I.e you can pierce it with crit
Or N's ability
tired sleet
The 50 pt is the same as reflect and can been pierced with crit, but not Piercing Blows
tired sleet
The 100 pt one is a flat 80% reduction and cannot be bypassed
tired sleet
The 50 pt is the same as reflect and can been pierced with crit, but not Piercin...
Oh yeah, that’s also the same as reflect, so this
old orchid
Its basically Reflect at the start and ruins quad queue
vast dome
Zinnia does not work for me vs Lucian. It could be because I don't have Weathered Warrior or Critical Strike
old orchid
Who are you using?
vast dome
SS Morty and Skyla as supports. SS Morty tanks
old orchid
Replace Skyla with another Flying dmg dealer
vast dome
How will my Zinnia survive? She needs defensive buffs
old orchid
Be sure to make sun available when SS Morty uses TM and fish for TM MPR to max Zinnia crit
SS Morty already provides defensive buffs
vast dome
Fish?
old orchid
Means reset until Morty gets TM MPR
vast dome
Ah
old orchid
So that he can max crit
quaint solar
How will my Zinnia survive? She needs defensive buffs
You don't have EX Blue and Pigeot?
vast dome
Do I need Sunny Day TM Refresh
vast dome
You don't have EX Blue and Pigeot?
Yes I do, but I'm still thinking Zinnia
tired sleet
Why would they EX Blue if the game gave them boosted Zinnia for free
quaint solar
Why would they EX Blue if the game gave them boosted Zinnia for free
Blue does 8K to 11K on his hurricane after support EX Sync
tired sleet
Zinnia outdamages that
proud axle
...How does Blue use Hurricane if you gave the first sync to a support
old orchid
Thats even worse than Zinnia
vast dome
And wait, who should I sync with first
old orchid
Zinnia
proud axle
Zinnia needs Mega to use Dragon Ascent
She plays very similarly to Blue in that particular way
old orchid
Both needs to sync first, but Zinnia output is way better
vast dome
Of course
old orchid
If you can quad queue, try using pre sync param sets first
quaint solar
...How does Blue use Hurricane if you gave the first sync to a support
Not sure which one is statistically better.
You can sync with Blue 1st then sync with support ex
Or like I did sync with support ex then sync with ex blue
proud axle
Only if you're not going for a presync clear, really
Six turns is a long time for Blue to be without his attack move
At that point he's not even a Striker, he's a really terrible Tech
No sync multiplier to compensate
old orchid
You are constantly giving bad advice middknight
quaint solar
You are constantly giving bad advice middknight
I am giving the advice of what I did
tired sleet
At that point he's not even a Striker, he's a _really terrible Tech_
||Kinda disrespectful to techs tbh 
||
vast dome
So who should I use? I don't have SS Ethan
old orchid
A physical dmg dealer preferly
proud axle
Zinnia and a weather unit
tired sleet
Zinnia, she is mathematically better, I checked the calcs
old orchid
Wait i thought you were asking for the third in Zinnia team
vast dome
A physical dmg dealer preferly
Like Nate?
proud axle
Is Ingo available?
vast dome
Which I have
vast dome
Is Ingo available?
Yes
old orchid
Oh thats better
proud axle
Ingo is a great support for Zinnia, since she looooves weather
old orchid
Ingo, Zinnia and a physical dmg dealer
vast dome
Ingo > SS Morty?
old orchid
Ingo doesnt need rng to max crit
proud axle
Hm, SSMorty is also a strong contender
old orchid
I am giving the advice of what I did
But thats not an optimal way to use him. Please think carefully before helping someone
proud axle
Flying phys attackers... There's also Darach and Gladion.
Gladion's awful but I'd have to stop and consider whether he or Nate is worse...
vast dome
That sounds good
proud axle
I'm uncomfortable with Kahili since she either needs the sync (which Zinnia is hogging) or her counterattack
old orchid
Be careful with Brave Bird tho, only use it when mid is down so that he can clear sides
You shouldnt touch Beak Blast at first place
proud axle
Yeah, counterattacks being two-turn moves is oooooof
old orchid
Kahili is still an option, but she can only sync after Zinnia
proud axle
Striker Skyla?
dusty yarrow
is Nate an option
proud axle
Yes but so is throwing the phone into a lake
proud axle
Ingo Zinnia Darach is looking good
Give Zinnia the first sync so she can get Dragon Ascent
vast dome
Ingo isn't EX
proud axle
You can get extra points with the crit shield handicap and just have Darach blow it away with Defog
proud axle
Ingo isn't EX
Who gives a shit if he's not syncing?
old orchid
Ingo isn't EX
Its fine, more reason to use Darach sync after Zinnia
vast dome
What are the free 150 points? No crits?
proud axle
I'm not really sure how Defog works on crit shield since the mainline equivalent is Lucky Chant, which couldn't be defogged
But it does, so ez points
dusty yarrow
Defog does remove crit shield here
proud axle
Ye
old orchid
Its a field effect her so makes sense
proud axle
I don't know how or why but it does
dusty yarrow
also, I think even a Grid Expand won't save Nate XD (+50 HP Node I guess)
proud axle
Its a field effect her so makes sense
Can it blow away gauge accel, actually
old orchid
also, I think even a Grid Expand won't save Nate XD (+50 HP Node I guess)
He needs Soaring Countdown 1 to be good
proud axle
Or that weird Reduced Unity Gain effect in that one EX Plaza
old orchid
Can it blow away gauge accel, actually <:HilbertHmm:625860604347023360>
iirc it cant
zealous karma
Not on your side but on the opponent it can
proud axle
Can't check whether it removes Stealth Rock since I don't think any enemy uses it here...
proud axle
Not on your side but on the opponent it can
Really? Now I wanna see it
vast dome
Well fuck Zinnia died to sync
old orchid
You dont want to take mid sync
proud axle
The enemy is living long enough to sync?
vast dome
And she's only Level 130
proud axle
130 should be more than enough
vast dome
Do I have to list them all
old orchid
Try using pre sync param set pinned here
proud axle
...I keep thinking I'll prep teams for next week and then remember we need the datamine to see what next week is
I prepped teams for the ice-stravaganza
dusty yarrow
Im planning an off-type run (w/ the same clause I run) for the Ice CS Event if I wanna do a rerun...
probably while patiently waiting for Datamine
proud axle
Drake's the only E4 from a hard league. Gonna have to see how the Marnie fight shakes out
keen jasper
I might use 1 ice damage dealer for each E4
old orchid
Marnie stage is designed for SS N / Ghetsis so just bring them
proud axle
Marnie stage is designed for SS N / Ghetsis so just bring them
Do they have the passive that demands a status condition?
formal vigil
Yes
dusty yarrow
C. Marnie has Healthy Advantage 4
proud axle
That does complicate this. Thank you, I might need to rethink a team or two.
Or Pika-nuke it.
full mesa
Healthy advantage needs status, right?
proud axle
Ye
dusty yarrow
C. Marnie has Healthy Advantage 4
another notable would be the Ramming Speed & Inertia
full mesa
Off type here I come.
formal vigil
Ssn here I come
proud axle
Does the entire enemy team have Healthy Advantage or just the boss
keen jasper
I think C. Marnie is moreso made for Irida's 3/5
Because Irida has Icy Wind along with Satisfied Snarl
vast dome
What params are you using?
Physical and Special Damage Reduction, Def 1, No Status Conditions, Strength 1, Sync Buff 5, Max HP 2, Ally Healing 5, Power on Hit 1, Strength 2, Ally Move Gauge 2, Strength 6.
formal vigil
Does irida status
formal vigil
proud axle
Physical and Special Damage Reduction, Def 1, No Status Conditions, Strength 1, ...
I think you can afford to add Special Reduction 8 and Standard Reduction 8
You can subtract some other stuff if you add those
keen jasper
Actually, now that I think about it, it's more like a combo of SS N and Irida for C. Marnie because she has Lessen Paralysis 5
proud axle
Your main offense is Dragon Ascent, Brave Bird, and then the second sync going to Darach. That's all ontype (so Standard Reduction 8 doesn't bite it) and phys (so Special Reduction 8 doesn't bite it either)
keen jasper
Physical and Special Damage Reduction, Def 1, No Status Conditions, Strength 1, ...
Why Def./Sp. Def. +1?
vast dome
I'm doing 1800 pointz
proud axle
Add the two I suggested and you can probably remove Strength1 and/or Strength2 for an easier fight
I don't think this team has any Interferences either, so you can add Interference immunity for free
Also Critical Shield. Darach can just Defog it away
Lotsa free points lying around here
You might even be able to cut away Power Up On Hit
summer flare
I feel like for the first time I may have found a flying monotype team that sorta works for me
keen jasper
R1: Permanent field effects
R2: Use status conditions and other conditions against all opponents
R3: Make use of special damage reduction to battle opponents with high Sp. Atk.
R4: Use physical attack moves against opponents with low defense
Champion: Use powerful moves quickly and constantly against all opponents
summer flare
Ice on type for neo champion stadium is going to be painful
zealous karma
keen jasper
Wouldn't hurt right?
dusty path
RIP my game just won't open
zealous karma
These aren’t even ice types
rigid flint
Well there's an almost ice type
zealous karma
Thanks game I really appreciate you
paper summit
you chose to go with Optimize, now deal with it
zealous karma
She unfroze right as candice synced 
grim bison
BLIZZARD PHEROMOSA COOKED
grand trout
Is there an entry x2 this special cs?
formal vigil
Drake
grand trout
I KNEW IT
grim bison
Wise
formal vigil
Just use hala
grand trout
Ugh steven it is
formal vigil
Or candice
grand trout
Just use hala
I need someone to hail too
desert berry
A special stadium?! gives up before attempting
grand trout
I only have 2 hailers 😦
formal vigil
Me who used sun
grand trout
Steven wants hail tho
summer flare
Does Brycen even do damage?
rigid flint
Huge Lusamine clutch
keen jasper
Ugh, my ice roster is pretty pathetic that I'm actually tempted to pull for SS N
rigid flint
Don'ttt
formal vigil
Just pull ss silver
quaint solar
Koha and Drake are round 1 🤔
formal vigil
If you want ice lol
desert berry
So are we going off type for this special stadium or do we need to have 1 Ice striker/tech pair that can deal dmg?
formal vigil
Either him or irida
paper summit
So are we going off type for this special stadium or do we need to have 1 Ice st...
no, super effective is not mandatory
formal vigil
So are we going off type for this special stadium or do we need to have 1 Ice st...
You can off type if you want
formal vigil
Off course it would work lol unless you pick standard damage reduction
desert berry
Oh that param
paper summit
there is also just poison stall as an option as usual
north crown
Ontype SCS: Ice
[R1 - Agatha] SSKris EX, Pryce, 1/5 Melony
- post sync bullshit
[R2 - Shauntal] Sycamore EX, BPCandice, Lusamine - blizzard spam
[R3 - Drake] 2/5 CRed EX, Candice, 1/5 Adaman - funny turn skip + debuff spam
[R4 - Koga] Leaf EX, 1/5 SSN EX, 1/5 CIris/Masked Royal - n dps n nuke
[R5 = CMarnie] 1/5 SCJasmine EX, Ghetsis EX, 2/5 PSerena - standard ghetsis team
And that's just my planning.
north crown
I really don't need any luck. I was just trying to ontype the entire thing.
I got loads of wildcards like sstred and sslyra in my back pocket.
verbal karma
Alright, R1 Drake and R2 Shauntal, that much is clear...
...but whom for R3 and R4?
summer flare
I got loads of wildcards like sstred and sslyra in my back pocket.
We're in the same boat, then
I'm investing on some of my ice carries
north crown
you could easily poison stall and/or offtype some of the easier stages if you're worriied about your ice type options
north crown
Alright, R1 Drake and R2 Shauntal, that much is clear...
...but whom for R3 and ...
last resort: poison stall
if not, who are you thinking of using rn?
summer flare
Because I have uber teams for like half the types in the game
Ice however is extremely limited
north crown
yeah. ice types is one of the more lacking types, so might as well try to actually challenge myself this time, especially if I have the uber supports to do so
verbal karma
last resort: poison stall
if not, who are you thinking of using rn?
Oh, I am just trying to decide who to pick for R3 and R4 for that special Ice-weak CS with Neo Champ Marnie
north crown
what are your remaining teams rn? choosing parametes optimally depends on that
north crown
just plan/play them as you usually do with ontype teams
verbal karma
what are your remaining teams rn? choosing parametes optimally depends on that
Well, for R1 Drake, I planned to use either Candice or BP Candice so I can save Irida for R5
north crown
choose pre/post sync params and play accordingly
verbal karma
R2 Shauntal would obviously use a flincher
north crown
Well, for R1 Drake, I planned to use either Candice or BP Candice so I can save ...
you need status on champ
irida is not enough
it's the reason why I saved ghetsis for cmarnie, as he has paralysis multipliers
verbal karma
just plan/play them as you usually do with ontype teams
But before I do: is Agatha or Koga the one with the low defense
verbal karma
I guess going with Drake for R1 is good
Yeah, that was my plan
zealous karma
If you can overwrite his sandstorm ye
north crown
But before I do: is Agatha or Koga the one with the low defense
low defense? I see both of them equally low on defense...
agatha may have higher base hp, but she uses her tm after sync, which removes hp
verbal karma
low defense? I see both of them equally low on defense...
...Agatha has the higher Sp. Atk then, right?
verbal karma
...Agatha has the higher Sp. Atk then, right?
If yes, then she could be R3
north crown
more like both agatha and koga uses sp atk moves
desert berry
What does B/Ds means in 📌
north crown
buffs/debuffs
keen jasper
I'm gonna try to legit on-type this despite the limited ice units I have
desert berry
Oh tyty
verbal karma
Hmmmmmmmmmm...
north crown
Ontype SCS: Ice
[R1 - Agatha] SSKris EX, Pryce, 1/5 Melony
- post sync bullshit...
you could work of what I have, though I am mostly using unconventional teams
@verbal karma could you also pull up all your paralysis pairs?
desert berry
Can Candice deal good dmg with on type?
keen jasper
Which Candice?
desert berry
Which Candice?
Candice Froslass
quaint solar
Round 1 is drake correct 🤔
desert berry
Or Abomasnow if she can deal dmg(?)
north crown
sabrina, ghetsis, pserena is a staple team. you could replace sabrina with a more fitting support depending on what you do, since this team was originally made before ghetsis' power boost
oh wow ssbrendan
yeah you should use OP support (SSbren, Sabrina, etc.) , ghetsis, pserena on cmarnie
verbal karma
...wait, hold on
north crown
perfectly counters marnie's "Healthy Advantage 4 & Speed Based Damage Multipliers"
verbal karma
Ghetsis has paralysis multiplier?
verbal karma
...huh...somehow missed that one
...damn, that means I need to make a third grid for him now
north crown
it's fine. it doesn't affect much in the grand scheme of things due to his insane nuke
zealous karma
a small one
That’s the same as ramming Spd
north crown
if u really want to not build another grid, the standard nuke grid should suffice, especially if u got him exed, which u do
rigid flint
Damn SS Silver is actually doing pretty good dps wise
Forgot to even touch his B Move
desert berry
Which pairs are good to pair Brendan with? Any speed boosting supports?
north crown
That’s the same as ramming Spd
wait really? damn ig para syn does add mroe dps than I realized
north crown
Which pairs are good to pair Brendan with? Any speed boosting supports?
which breanda, and why are you asking for brendan?
desert berry
Brendan Sceptile and I’m trying to go offtype with Drake
verbal karma
Alright, since I won't be using Irida in R5 after all, I can use Irida on R1 Drake instead
desert berry
north crown
Brendan Sceptile and I’m trying to go offtype with Drake
use a sun team. skyla, brendan, blaine is a staple
if you have any better sun pair, use them
verbal karma
...damn, is Wulfric really the only ice-type who can flinch?
north crown
Alright, since I won't be using Irida in R5 after all, I can use Irida on R1 Dra...
if u want to use another hail unit in this cs, you might want to consider saving that pair for r1 instead
keen jasper
Man, I fucking hate Drake's EQ
verbal karma
if u want to use another hail unit in this cs, you might want to consider saving...
Hmm...good point...though I don't know where else I would want to use Hail...
Back to the topic of R2, though, is this a good grid for Wulfric?
violet timber
I have to off type one of them don’t i
zealous karma
Back to the topic of R2, though, is this a good grid for Wulfric?
Off typing is easier than using wulfric
verbal karma
😦
zealous karma
I have to off type one of them don’t i
You have 4 teams there, and BpCandice is good too
half void
You could use Gladion
zealous karma
Forgot he existed
verbal karma
You could use Gladion
Oh yeah, I forgot Gladion can flinch💀
violet timber
Got decent supports for all of these I’d say
zealous karma
Oh yeah, I forgot Gladion can flinch💀
Gladion cannot flinch
trail smelt
WOO managed to get all my non MC ice types into the Hall of fame aww yiss
keen jasper
Fuck man, Drake's EQ is critting my Ghetsis every fucking time
desert berry
Is poison considered a status condition?
trail smelt
Wait so what does R2 affect?
violet timber
I mean I guess it should
quaint solar
But not sure if it works
Use Freeze on R2
quaint solar
Oh? Battle who
I'm still on R1 😮💨
desert berry
Oh
keen jasper
Holy fuck, Drake is the most annoying
