Champion Stadium

[verbal karma]

No, it's meant to be countered with post sync

or SS Elesa

[old orchid]

you can delay her sync with flinch yes, but requires good timing and skill

[keen jasper]

That's one possibility

[desert berry]

spams Iron Head

That’s it ill try pre sync one last time

If not then post sync it is all the way

Or offtype

[verbal karma]

Anyway, since neither my Eusine nor my Kris team works against Flint, I straight up don't know who to use instead

...do I really have to off-type this? 😦

[keen jasper]

Eusine is stacked AF, TF you mean?

B Surf hits really hard

And I don't have him

[verbal karma]

Buddy Surf hits hard, yes, but not hard enough

and neither does his sync

[old orchid]

that means team building and/or params issue

can you show your params and your team, with Eusine's grid as well?

[verbal karma]

My team was Viola/Eusine/BP Morty

I used pre-sync params with physical damage reduction

[sand karma]

Hmmm Berthas dilemma
Ground weak solgaleo who i struggled a lot with last time or special Raihan

[verbal karma]

Eusine is also only 1/5

[undone ether]

Okay... Lucian and cynthia need to chill ;-;

[old orchid]

i see why, because that team sucks

i did tell you to replace Viola with a rain setter, like May

[keen jasper]

Why Viola?

You don't even need to trap the sides

Just mid

[verbal karma]

to lower Sp. Atk

[old orchid]

i guess spatk debuff but it doesnt matter

rain is more powerful

[keen jasper]

Still useless

[old orchid]

and BP Morty buffs spdef anyway

[verbal karma]

The first version of the team had Darach instead of Viola, but THAT caused Eusine to get insta-killed by Flint's Heat Wave

[old orchid]

your team building is more questionable

[keen jasper]

Change up the parameters

[old orchid]

you even use pre sync param on a round that prevents you from quad queueing

[verbal karma]

Wdym

I can quadqueue just fine

[old orchid]

either switch to post sync or play on another round

you mean you can sync twice before Flint's first sync?

[verbal karma]

Yes

[desert berry]

Finally!!!

[verbal karma]

And that still isn't enough

Even after two syncs from Eusine, Flint is still standing

[old orchid]

use an EX support instead of BP Morty

you should have resorted to EX support if you failed multiple times

[keen jasper]

I'm wondering if anyone can show me SC Diantha's full nuke against Cynthia

[main crow]

Fuck Aaron lmao, Hau also didn't crit all his 3 syncs

[modest gull]

Thanks for the sleep chain tip, friend! Finally defeated Bertha with these peeps

[hushed sorrel]

did you grid Solgaleo?

[modest gull]

Gridded and Ex'd, yeah

[hushed sorrel]

dam

I dont have all that resource

[verbal karma]

...okay, no, using a rain setter is not an option either

All of them spend too much move gauge

[old orchid]

even though Eusine is gauge friendly?

[hushed sorrel]

is pidgeot going to be ok for Lucian?

[old orchid]

you can try the same team

but it will take longer

[old orchid]

yes

[hushed sorrel]

Gakon your feedback would be amazing on my striker. I will have a think about the supports
R1 - Lucian - Classic Blue (likely no grid..)
R2 - Bertha - Solgaleo (no grid..)
R3 - Flint - Eusine (I will prob get him to 3/5 and grid)
R4 - Aaron - Ash (ex and grid)
Cynthia - Bea (full grid)

[verbal karma]

Eusine may be gauge friendly...but Winona isn't

and May even less so

[old orchid]

use May

May is more gauge friendly

[old orchid]

let's see

[verbal karma]

yet I had even MORE gauge problems with May than with Winona

[old orchid]

her TM fills gauge and she has Racing Rain

who is the support>

[old orchid]

Lucian would be round. You might need the tankiest support there

R2 is problematic, try sleep chaining strat like Ice Free did

R3 Eusine easily destroys Flint, bring a special support just in case Flint spams too many Heat Wave

[hushed sorrel]

i dont have executor

[old orchid]

you can use any sleeper

[hushed sorrel]

serena?

[old orchid]

she is good

aside from R1 and R2, the rest is easy to handle

i suggest fighting Bertha on R1 so that Solgaleo can finish her sooner

[hushed sorrel]

so lucian r2

[full mesa]

I can't do Lucian. Blue just doesn't deal enough damage and Kahili needs 3 syncs to take him down...

[verbal karma]

SS Dawn

[north crown]

Did you even look at Blue’s kit? He does like 0 damage with his sync. Most of his DPS is from Hurricane.

What’s your team and move levels?

[old orchid]

is she EXed? if not better use EX support

[verbal karma]

She is EX'd, yes

[old orchid]

then i dont see any problem

just be smart with moves to avoid gauge issue

[full mesa]

I was using Falkner/Blue/Kahili.

Anyway, I sleep chained with Elio and was able to take him down.

[north crown]

That kinda works, tho idk hwo good that dual flying dps works

I would go with either one or the other so that teambuilding is easier

[old orchid]

they already cleared, so no need to judge

[full mesa]

No problem

[north crown]

Ah ic

Yeah Elio is goated

[full mesa]

I always have issues with that stage.

I'm just too bad at sleep chain, that's why I'm not using it much.

Anyway, 2 down, 2 to go.

[north crown]

Mind telling/showing me your remaining teams?

[verbal karma]

Oh no

[full mesa]

I have Double Frogs and Swimduck for Flint, SSTRed for Aaron and SSACynthia/Bea/Something for acc

[verbal karma]

Now Eusine got OHKO'd by Heat Wave

AGAIN

Yeah, no, I desperately need a Spt. Atk Debuffer

More than a Rain setter

[old orchid]

[hushed sorrel]

R1 - Bertha - Solgaleo (no grid..) , Serena, SS Morty
R2 - Lucian - Classic Blue (likely no grid..), SST Red, SS Blue
R3 - Flint - Eusine (I will prob get him to 3/5 and grid), May, Sonia
R4 - Aaron - Ash (ex and grid), Volkner, Elesa
R5 - Cynthia - Bea (full grid), Adaman, Hilbert

[north crown]

Just submit and build solgaleo’s grid

If SSBlue is 2/5, you should probably put him with solga

[hushed sorrel]

ss blue is 5/5 ex

[thin marten]

havent done poison stall in so long omg,,,,,

lucian needs it

[old orchid]

SS Morty is fine, no need to change

[north crown]

Oh wait I didn’t see ssm mb

[old orchid]

although you have to sync with Blue Pidgeot first

[thin marten]

is solgaleo fine at all, it did no dmg for me

[old orchid]

on Bertha?

[thin marten]

oh wait i forgor i went past bertha

my nate ex doesnt do enough dmg

so i just want to stall

[old orchid]

so stall then

[thin marten]

i have sycamore and bp erika but idk who to pair with

im on last param

[north crown]

Why CBlue? You could probably go for a debuffer or some paralyzer to save sstred’s gmax for extra nuke option

[full mesa]

Syca/BPErika/Janine

[thin marten]

janine,,,,, is 4 stars fine

[full mesa]

And?

[old orchid]

rarity doesnt matter in this game

[thin marten]

but like the bulk matters

[old orchid]

being 4* doesnt mean they are bad

[thin marten]

[old orchid]

no not at all

[hushed sorrel]

doesnt SST Red lower their def every bolt?

[north crown]

Bro @thin marten rarity =/= performance

[old orchid]

Marley despite being 3* has good bulk

[thin marten]

what if i get oneshot

[full mesa]

Stall needs Badle poison, something to make att/spa at -6, something to boost Def/Spdef at +6 and a bit of heal.

[old orchid]

then its your issue

not them

[north crown]

Faster debuff

Alternatively u can go for the paralyzer to save gmax

[old orchid]

idt SST Red needs paralyzer that much

better keeps using that team

save GMAX after first EX support sync

[north crown]

I’m not saying he needs it. All I’m saying is that he is able to burst first sync and gmax nukes

[old orchid]

then why did you recommend using paralyzer?

[north crown]

Cuz he has a grid multipler for paralysis

[old orchid]

he can apply paralysis by himself

its not like you nuke with him first sync

[north crown]

Not guaranteed or reliably

• that’ll take away b move spam

[old orchid]

GMAX Volt Crash is not guaranteed?

saving max move after sync is way better, since Blue needs 3 turns to setup himself

[vast dome]

Team 28 is for Lucian BTW

[north crown]

Oh I should’ve specified that I was excluding gmax para, since I was thinking of saving it for nuke while letting first sync rip

[hushed sorrel]

so that team sounds really slow haha

so I need to sync with Pidgeot first

[old orchid]

yea

[hushed sorrel]

does it make a huge diff?

if I did Blastoise first

[old orchid]

yes

[north crown]

You gain access to hurricane with sync

[thin marten]

okay stall was amazing

[old orchid]

Pidgeot needs to sync first for Hurricane

[full mesa]

Team?

[hushed sorrel]

Ive got enough orbs for 1 full grid

[thin marten]

well, the one recommended above

[old orchid]

for Blue i just grid Brutal Clarity tile

[thin marten]

janine bp erika and sycamore

[north crown]

Solgaleo:

[hushed sorrel]

I can grid Solgaleo or Pidgeot

[old orchid]

and TM MPR

yeal fully grid Solgaleo

[north crown]

Wait that’s actually a pretty intruguing decision

Unless you got zinnia power boost with grid

Which you should have anyways

[hushed sorrel]

no I dont have grid on Zinnia

hahaha

I have the power boost already though

[north crown]

Bruh

How did you beat the event challenge then?

[hushed sorrel]

hmm I havent got the condition challenge yet

[old orchid]

actually yeah Zinnia is better than Blue

she doesnt need grid

but she wants weather and crit support

so move SS Blue to Solgaleo's team and use SS Morty on Lucian round

[thin marten]

finally done with cs for this week

fighting weak cynthia is a joke to my powercreep

[hushed sorrel]

wait so dont bother with Pidgeot? Off type with Zinnia?

[thin marten]

beating cynthia with cynthia core

[north crown]

Grid would still help Zinnia’s dps, tho I do get why you said she wouldn’t need a grid

[north crown]

Offtype? Have you ever tried using Dragon Ascent?

[hushed sorrel]

nope

hahah

I assume its flying

[thin marten]

yes

[old orchid]

she needs to sync to unlock Dragon Ascent

[thin marten]

but enabling it is kinda bad and the grid doesnt help it

[old orchid]

a really strong 4 bar move

[vast dome]

Is the Gloria Dojo team any good for Flint?

Cuz it's the same team as 2 weeks ago

[north crown]

AnniN seems irrelevant

I would opt for more burst damage cuz SSK can support dual dps comps

[vast dome]

Replace Anni N with who? Give me your top choices

[old orchid]

a physical Water dmg dealer

[vast dome]

Kris or Crasher Wake?

[undone ether]

Wise Entry is Def right?

or Sp.Def?

[toxic cobalt]

Wise is special

[undone ether]

i'm building my CS team for tomororw.

crying.

[old orchid]

obviously Kris

[north crown]

Unless 1/5

[north crown]

Ghetsis, HLeon, p stall, p stall, p stall

[old orchid]

1/5 is still fine

[north crown]

Explain please

[undone ether]

lol poison stall

[vast dome]

Sounds good

[toxic cobalt]

Insanely stacked

[undone ether]

who do i pick apart though?

[north crown]

Ghetsis, Hala, HLeon, Irida, Candice. Ez clap

[undone ether]

i dont like Candice too much 😦

[north crown]

Then either p stall or offtype

[old orchid]

1/5 Kris still has decent damage with Mega Kick

thats it

[undone ether]

Outmuscle 6 is they get +ATK if i miss or somethin?

[north crown]

Or u can use HNessa with her to counteract Candice’s awful dps

[undone ether]

hmm this should do it.

[keen jasper]

Damn, Ash clapped Aaron's ass with 379k Bunderbolt

And that's with 0 stacks of SpMUN

And -4 Sp. Def.

[undone ether]

Oh right, Sabrina ups Speed and Acc

that should be good.

[north crown]

I’m p sure ghetsis can carry a stage on his own with enough bulky and fast teammates

Also consider trying irida + bpcandice in ghetsis’ place. I’ve heard that the duo combo is good

[undone ether]

the entire stage wants me to -2 Speed though

each time i move or something 😭

[old orchid]

Ghetsis doesnt need Irida

on Champion round you need to inflict a status condition because of Healthy Advantage 4

[north crown]

Ghetsis, support, para utility?

[undone ether]

HUM

yeah i feel like Ghetsis checks the boxes for it.

esp if i'm in the business of Cold Snap 😄

[north crown]

Then just use ghetsis

[old orchid]

Cold Snap is super unreliable

[north crown]

Wait why do you want more rng…?

[old orchid]

he has 60% paralysis with HE1 Dragon Breathe anw

[undone ether]

okay.

i think i'll do this : Ghetsis + SC Jasmine + Sonia o-o

[north crown]

Or just bring para utility pair

[undone ether]

Sonia with HE2 Spark

that should be good.

[north crown]

Can’t you bring erika instead? She can debuff spdef for the dragon

[undone ether]

SC Jasmine can debuff SpDef

o-o~

[vast dome]

So Round 1: Aaron or Lucian?

[north crown]

Wait is she 3/5? Goddamn

[undone ether]

Yeah

and EX

[north crown]

Depends on roster and team planning. U gotta decide for urself unless you spill ur plans here in the hopes of others helping

[undone ether]

i can probably do Irida against Drake then

[keen jasper]

Fucking damnit game, after all that set up on Nessa and you made her deal 119k uncritted?

[vast dome]

Aaron: N/Volkner/Hilbert (all EX)
Lucian: Zinnia/SS Elesa/Skyla (all EX)

[hushed sorrel]

fark this Bertha is insane

[vast dome]

Flint: Kris/Dojo Gloria/EX SS Kris
Bertha: EX Steven/Hop/???

[north crown]

N. Lucian might need to post sync cuz mandatory sync

Meanwhile u can flinch aaron to death

[undone ether]

i think this should do it. o-o~

[main crow]

CMarnie tomorrow wants to get frozen right?

[vast dome]

Round 1 goes to Lucian then?

[north crown]

Do u really need xern for irida…?

[old orchid]

BP Candice gives better result than Sycamore

[north crown]

Cuz I was thinking that you would use syca for pryce cuz his self buffs are shit

[undone ether]

hmm

[hushed sorrel]

Wtf hahaha

[undone ether]

Koga has evasion stuff

so its really either Xerneas or Eevee tbh

for Pryce

unless it becomes very poison the stage

[old orchid]

be better with sleep chaining i guess

[north crown]

Tbh you might want to offtype koga as well

[hushed sorrel]

I dont get how to sleep chain

They are always awake

lol

[grand trout]

God

Bertha's headstart is messing up my quadqueue

Yes I'm shortening my move countdown as well (via cred) but still

[north crown]

Flinch/sleep spam?

[grand trout]

I somehow got lucky with mpr on red's tm so i synced twice before her

[north crown]

God I need that opponent move order infographic

[old orchid]

https://youtu.be/EECzCmtJgh4?t=143

watching this video might help you get the idea of sleep chaining

[hushed sorrel]

am I doing this right?
Serena - accuracy buff
SS Blue - gauge accel + crit
Player - attack buff
Serena - accuracy buff
SS Blue - gauge accel + crit
Player - attack buff
Serena - sleep
SS Blue - X Def
Player - Sunstrike
Support Ex Sync

[grand trout]

Also zacian 1/5 non exed s u c k s

[old orchid]

sleep chaining is complicated and rng so idt move orders wll help much

[grand trout]

I had to resort to krimsley

[keen jasper]

I'm waiting for fairy pasio CS

[north crown]

Most people would resort to offtype for that

[grand trout]

Do you think next month is hoenn

[verbal karma]

...damn

[hushed sorrel]

dude his Solgaleo hits so much harder

[keen jasper]

Probably, it's been 7 months since Hoenn

[undone ether]

WAIT A SEC

[verbal karma]

I am so tempted to give Eusine a candy JUST so I can beat R2 Flint

[undone ether]

Scyther is EX-able? D:?!

[verbal karma]

But I only have one 3* Strike Candy

[grand trout]

That would be nice except rhyperior won't hesitate to use earthquake

[undone ether]

Okay this is pretty damned good now 😄

[north crown]

Can’t you just spam OP water moves and may/supp ex sync?

[old orchid]

because his Solgaleo is powerboosted

[verbal karma]

No, May is too move gauge hungry for that, even with her TM

[north crown]

Oh yeah you were using ssdawn

Use someone else

[hushed sorrel]

he only buffed attack once

[undone ether]

if Drake becomes very hard, i'll probably turn BP Candice into Lucian instead o-o

okay time to EX Bugsy

[verbal karma]

Who should I replace SS Dawn with?

[north crown]

Someone that buffs crit and speed/gives gauge

Spatk on top of that would be nice

[grand trout]

Is there a sonia-esque like unit for sp attackers?

[north crown]

Cbede ig

[grand trout]

I think cbede is mixed

He buffs both offenses

[hushed sorrel]

bro Im so far off its kinda demotivating lol

[grand trout]

I want someone who boosts sp atk and sl def and crit

[old orchid]

SC Jasmine

[grand trout]

I guess ss brendan is closest

[old orchid]

but she is a limited pair

[grand trout]

That too

[old orchid]

oh yeah SS Brendan too

[verbal karma]

I have SC Jasmine, actually

SS Brendan, too

[old orchid]

then use them

instead of SS Dawn

[undone ether]

anywho i'll poke back here tomorrow for poking ya'll for help huhu

[old orchid]

i pointed you to use another EX support but you didnt listen

[north crown]

Sabrina, Kiawe:

[grand trout]

I nuked Aaron before heal order

I'm so happy

[north crown]

TLMorty

[grand trout]

Thank god for elessas sync countdown

[verbal karma]

Oh no

Even with a sync buff from an EX'd SS Brendan

Even with Rain from May

Eusine's sync is STILL unable to beat Flint

[old orchid]

sync with May instead

[grand trout]

Do you have kriss

[main crow]

Wait Trin do you not have Kris

Gator Kris

[old orchid]

they did use Kris but failed

[keen jasper]

What move level is Trin's OG Kris?

[main crow]

How

She can clear pre sync with rain

[verbal karma]

Well, when I used Kris, it also was without a Rain setter

and also with SS Dawn as the support

[main crow]

Winona/Kris/Hilbert not sure if Kris EX is really needed but she has good dps to potentially 2 shot the sides

[verbal karma]

Wait, Winona instead of May?

[main crow]

Yeah I prefer Winona

She can flinch too

[old orchid]

also you can turn on special reduc param

with Winona

[hushed sorrel]

I don't see him doing anything different but spam it every turn

[old orchid]

you need to know when they will wake up to queue Hypnosis on them

keep an eye on the sleep icon

[grand trout]

Does winona have aggrav

[old orchid]

if it flashs rapidly that means the opponent is about to wake up

[old orchid]

yes she does

[verbal karma]

Winona/Kris/Hilbert isn't working out either 😦

Hilbert simply dies too fast

[grand trout]

Funnily enough, i used elio and lyssandre on flint

I was joyed when hypnosis hit until i realized i locked myself out my buddy move 🫠

[hushed sorrel]

Like that guy hardly 'chained' he just killed them super fast lmao

[old orchid]

because boosted Solgaleo is pog

[verbal karma]

...do I really have to use Hilbert as the support?

He dies too fast

[main crow]

I can record a play for you

Without Kris needing to sync

[verbal karma]

The main problem is: Hilbert dies before Kris even gets to sync in the first place

[main crow]

Flinch them

[verbal karma]

I can't count on flinch RNG

Like, ever

That's why I need a flinch-less strat

[trail smelt]

Man what the hell Carnie fight wants status effect?

[main crow]

How many other physical supports do you have?

If you're not using Sonia anywhere else you can use her in place of Hilbert

[vast dome]

Lucian hurts

[lunar meadow]

Does water weak flint have wise entry? Wtf

[keen jasper]

None

He has Discourage

[lunar meadow]

Omg. I'm freaking stupid.
I left of the "special damage reduction" passive from the fight before...

Kyogre/Suicune/Swampert still beat it but it took to the third sync 😅

[vast dome]

I'll need a defence buffer for Zinnia

[verbal karma]

Nope, Winona/Kris/Sonia isn't working out either

[vast dome]

sigh Guess I'll post all my teams again

[verbal karma]

Infact, it's even worse now

Because Sonia makes quad queuing impossible

[keen jasper]

That should be enough

Besides, Winona can flinch

[lunar meadow]

So that's a feraligatr team?

[keen jasper]

Yeah

[verbal karma]

Again, I cannot count on flinch RNG

[keen jasper]

Do you know the turn order of enemies?

[verbal karma]

Yes

Problem is that I simply have bad flinch luck

[keen jasper]

Literally 60% chance

Are you really going to let bad luck drag you down?

[verbal karma]

If said bad luck happens that frequently? Yes

I just want to win already

[keen jasper]

That's how I feel when I rely on RNG on extreme battles

But do I give up? No

[vast dome]

Like my teams?
R1: Lucian
R2: Bertha
R3: Flint
R4: Aaron

[verbal karma]

Also, even when I DO get a flinch, I am sadly unable to actually benefit from it

[keen jasper]

Ok, why N when Aaron has Sentry Entry x2?

[verbal karma]

Can't really flinch queue because the opponent still manages to queue a move faster than me

[vast dome]

My go-to Electric team

[keen jasper]

Sentry Entry x2 is the same as your damage being halved

[vast dome]

Replace N with Hau and EX him ASAP?

[keen jasper]

Even on-type

[vast dome]

Cuz I got no other good Electric pairs

[keen jasper]

Do you have any special electric damage dealers?

Or is it only Hau?

[vast dome]

Just these two

[verbal karma]

and speaking of bad RNG luck

I also have to deal with Kris' Mega Kick just...missing

[keen jasper]

Did you not grid Pinpoint Entry?

[verbal karma]

Don't have the energy for that

[verbal karma]

Oh no...I need First Aid, tho

Kris dies before the enemy syncs otherwise

[keen jasper]

Sonia has Potion

And Kris has Endurance

[verbal karma]

and both are not enough

Because Flint and his sides just hit THAT hard

[main crow]

I prefer Hilbert but trin said he's too frail as the sole support
Suggested flinch strat but as you can see

[keen jasper]

@verbal karma What if I clear with the team you're using?

[main crow]

How did your Kris die quick?

[verbal karma]

Hold on, I will try with First Aid removed again

[keen jasper]

Heat Wave prolly

[main crow]

Idk who else can support Kris as fast as Hilbert honestly

Sonia is there but alas quadque

[nocturne pawn]

no one else does

[vast dome]

Only Hau.

[nocturne pawn]

you can try using her tm for faster inertia set up and crit

[main crow]

That's what I did

[keen jasper]

Winona flinch, but they claim to have bad luck

[keen jasper]

Hmmmmm

[vast dome]

Yes I'm ignoring the main character

[keen jasper]

I think N could against Aaron, not sure

[nocturne pawn]

it’s definitely possible

N was able to do it back when sinnoh was new

[main crow]

I have terrible luck (shown by my pities) but flinch with aggra is one of the more potent things in this game

[vast dome]

Brace for a slog

Anyway, what about my team for Lucian? I gotta keep adjusting my Zinnia team

[verbal karma]

Basically

But I finally won now

[keen jasper]

So, what did you do differently this time?

[verbal karma]

Replaced First Aid with not just Pinpoint Accuracy, but also Super Powered...then prayed that Heat Wave wouldn't kick my shit in

[keen jasper]

You're worried even if she has Endurance?

[mellow linden]

What team is this, even? As long as you quadqueue or have something like Adrenaline to ensure you Sync twice before Flint Syncs Kris should just obliterate him

Heck, Kris can probably nuke with 1st Sync

With a good team

[verbal karma]

I had Winona/Kris/Sonia as my team

Anyway, now R3 Bertha is giving me trouble

[mellow linden]

Ah, missed that you won, my bad.

Steel weak Bertha is a tough one, from what I’m told. What’s your Steel roster, and do you have SS Giovanni perchance?

[verbal karma]

Even when I do manage to get two syncs in before Bertha does her sync by using SS Elesa's TM twice, Solgaleo's sync still isn't strong enough 😦

[verbal karma]

I don't have SS Giovanni

[mellow linden]

Just wanted to make sure. What about the rest of your Steel roster?

[verbal karma]

Anyway, here are my Steel-types

[mellow linden]

Could try K. Grimsley or see if dual damage-dealers with Solgaleo + Gloria + Hop or another Attack/crit Support works

[lost gulch]

ngl

i dunno why this week aaron felt so difficult

[mellow linden]

What team did you use?

[lost gulch]

i was using sonia celesa and volkner

but the thing is

i cleared this pretty easily before with the same team tho

[mellow linden]

Could be parameter-based

[lost gulch]

not sure was it because high parameters

yea thats what i thought but the thing is standard SE already took 300 pts

[keen jasper]

Just use 2 damage dealers

[nocturne pawn]

solgaleo and kimono grimsley should work

since hes 3/5 you can grid him for flinches too

honestly im stuck on lucian

because darach nukes mid but then sides do too much damage

[manic kiln]

if you use darach nuke the right first because they spam swift, then mid. should be easier

left is mostly physical and with atk drop they won't do much

[verbal karma]

Tried that, still the same results

Solgaleo's sync just isn't strong enough

[nocturne pawn]

did you grid grimsley for aggravation and metal burst

[verbal karma]

Oh

I used Gloria and Solgaleo

[nocturne pawn]

try using him

[verbal karma]

Who does Grimsley replace?

[nocturne pawn]

flinches help a lot especially since she has head start and metal burst is a second sync

[nocturne pawn]

gloria

without her pf expansion shes decidedly mid

[verbal karma]

Oh no, not flinches again 😦

Damn, K.Grimsley/SS Elesa/Solgaleo is even worse

K.Grimsley is simply too move gauge hungry

[nocturne pawn]

why are you using ss elesa he’s physical

both of them are actually

[verbal karma]

Sync Accel, that's why

[manic kiln]

SSElesa won't do anything here, 1 more sync is useless when she didn't help the other 2 at all

[nocturne pawn]

^

[verbal karma]

Because I do not want to do Post Sync

[nocturne pawn]

then dont

that team can clear if you use a better support

[verbal karma]

Problem is that Bertha has headstart

[nocturne pawn]

solgaleo with pb is already fully self sufficient someone like skyla would help a lot

[verbal karma]

So if I want to have two syncs before Bertha syncs

Then sync Accel is a requirement

[nocturne pawn]

do you know how to use metal burst

if you can utilize it well its essentially a second sync

[manic kiln]

you'll kill with metal burst and solgaleo move

[nocturne pawn]

and he has haymaker on his grid too

so you can definitely pre sync

[verbal karma]

Yeah, well, I almost never used Kimono Grimsley, so...uh...yeah, I suck at Metal Burst

Is there no pre sync strat that doesn't require flinch or Metal Burst?

[manic kiln]

probably asking too much of you so offtype might be better

to presync "easier" you need better units

[verbal karma]

Ugh...off-typing...

[nocturne pawn]

i did it with raihan 3/5

admittedly i also had anni raihan for move up next

and yes wise entry x3 sucked

but im stubborn that way

[manic kiln]

i cleared with 2/5 grimsley so 5/5 shouldn't have trouble at all

[verbal karma]

Oh yeah, just as a reminder, those are my Steel types

(This is from before I switched out one of my two supporters)

[manic kiln]

steel weak bertha, and steel weak diantha too are some of the hardest stages. not to mention steel roster is falling behind compare to other types

[nocturne pawn]

what was steel weak diantha again?

aurorus?

[keen jasper]

Yeah

[nocturne pawn]

that basically felt like the pal bea and marnie battle challenge but 3x harder

[swift swan]

I forgot what steel-weak diantha is all about

[nocturne pawn]

i remember hyper voice and no quarter icicle spear

[cloud mulch]

I can't clear Lucian... Should I power up one of these units to clear or just go off type?

[swift swan]

Oh, the one meant for colress

[nocturne pawn]

huh

[swift swan]

If you're using Zinnia, bring a weather setter

[cloud mulch]

like morty and hooh?

[nocturne pawn]

yes

if you’re using her for dragon ascent then use an attack buffer

[cloud mulch]

like hilbert and samurott?

[swift swan]

Sure

Idk what round you're on

[lunar meadow]

Dragon Ascent Zinniaquaza 🤮

[swift swan]

Just make sure you're not planning to use those units later on

[keen jasper]

That carried me on the Wally EB

[cloud mulch]

ok thx

[lunar meadow]

rayquaza is the worst free legendary, I used haxorus over it

[swift swan]

Unironically based

[keen jasper]

[lunar meadow]

Haxorus team setup: just some buffs, her damage is fine

Zinniaquaza set up: you need someone else to buff, and weather is mandatory (before excadrill/Mo-Oh/Suicune, this meant two separate allies)

Her mega evolution gives her a ton of special attack to help make her viable as a dragon unit, but still needs weather and ally buffing.

[cloud mulch]

so shuold i use haxorus?

[keen jasper]

No

Dragon-weak was last week

[cloud mulch]

maybe i should try off type cause with zynnia is like impossible for me lol

[lunar meadow]

5/5 Pidgeot should be able to do

Which fight # is this?

[cloud mulch]

2

maybe i should try to boost their helth instead of the power?

[nocturne pawn]

i doubt it

[old orchid]

Check the pins for suggested param sets

[nocturne pawn]

first sync has to be his and hurricane dps is like good but is it enough

[old orchid]

I would rather use Zinnia over Blue

[verbal karma]

Okay, is this a good off-type parameter set?

[nocturne pawn]

i wouldnt take hp up

sinnoh cs is already above average in terms of hp and taking that with strength parameters is unfun

[verbal karma]

...no stat reduction instead?

[nocturne pawn]

as long as your team doesnt use debuffs

[cloud mulch]

ok thx

[verbal karma]

Okay, let's assume I keep SS Elesa, who should my two Strikes be then?

[mellow linden]

Pretty much would be stuck with K. Grimsley and Solgaleo if SS Elesa is a requirement (unless you wanna use Raihan for the center only), no other Steel damage-dealers that you have are self-sufficient

Oh, wait, off-typing

[old orchid]

Its painful to see 5/5 KGrimsley failing ontype

[late grove]

🗿

how

[mellow linden]

SS Hilda + Sun setter or SS Lana in general if you wanna off-type, I guess. But on-type should be plenty doable

[verbal karma]

Except I literally tried on-type

and I couldn't do it

[nocturne pawn]

raihan 1/5 is middling anyway

[mellow linden]

Idk what to tell you, Steven and Solgaleo are about equal in terms of damage output and Steven + Hop + Rachel worked for me with maybe like a single flinch that actually mattered in terms of non-MP Refresh RNG

[nocturne pawn]

no access to ppe or sync/dps tiles

[lunar meadow]

You need a single MPR on "breathtaking" to cap pidgeot's crit.

But 5/5 Pidgeot and a support EX was an easy 2.5k kill on Lucian.

@nocturne pawn @old orchid

Support EX first, Pidgeot EX second.

[mellow linden]

Ah, wait, Solgaleo is weak to Ground, isn’t it

That explains the discrepancy

[upbeat dragon]

will 5/5 MC EX Solgaleo (Powerboosted), 1/5 CBede and 1/5 COlress be able to clear the Bertha stage this week?

im not being able to use solgaleo cause earthquake keeps knocking me out before i take out the mid. The solgaleo sync nuke takes down the sides but only does half dmg to the mid

[mellow linden]

Could try Colress nuke for center instead

[upbeat dragon]

colress is on 1/5

[old orchid]

i would sync with Blue first for Hurricane, then SS Elesa's sync second

[mellow linden]

Ah, true, idk if he has more than just the innate at 1/5

[lunar meadow]

Not at all.

This team doesn't have the move gauge support to focus on hurricanes, so the first cycle you are using air slashes for flinch chances. Hurricane needs the EX boost before it's worth the move gauge consumption

[old orchid]

no need to ping me

[lunar meadow]

You only need like 2-3 hurricanes at the very end

[old orchid]

about gauge, just grid Screech Charging Infliction

then basically BP Clemont uses no gauge

[lunar meadow]

True, I didn't touch any of my grids.

I brought magneton as a free defense buffer, and one of the rare accuracy buffers for that multiplier

But re-gridding for that would help the post-mega Pidgeot turns

[nocturne pawn]

he loses like 10% without max acc id just use a speed buffer

[manic kiln]

try tapu lele with ex support, get someone with def buff if you can, and atk down/def down for the third

[lunar meadow]

I mean, I'd just use Tornadus and either Lugia or RayVen...

But I was just trying to show 5/5 Pidgeot was good enough damage for Lucian this week. Unfortunately, it does require 1/5 Rotom, but then I wanted a free unit for the final slot

Rotom/Pidgeot was my flying type combo for a long time, until I started doing monotype clears

[versed meteor]

Wait does 3/5 ashchu solo aaron?

[sick inlet]

Yes

This particular Aaron is very soloable by Ashchu

[versed meteor]

Since i had this i was like am pretty sure 3/5 ashchu can solo

[long thicket]

Uh, I actually did the infamous Electric Aaron first try without the chus or either Hau...

On 2k...

It was a little too close, but I'm impressed...

[nocturne pawn]

electric aaron isnt that bad really

[long thicket]

Went with Zekrom/Emolga.

[nocturne pawn]

its just memed because of heal order

steel weak bertha is the actually difficult one here

[mellow linden]

Classic Elesa is basically a cheat code for Electric weak Aaron, lol

[long thicket]

Yeah, about Bertha...

[mellow linden]

I do Triple Elesa (Classic, SS, Lodge) every time now

[long thicket]

No Steel Zone means I'm not sure which Steel unit to use in these.

For Tech unit, I mean.

[mellow linden]

You don't need one of each role

[long thicket]

I have Gloria and Steven both at EX and above 3/5.

[nocturne pawn]

i brute forced with raihan

[mellow linden]

I used Steven + Hop + Rachel

[nocturne pawn]

albeit sides were painful and hes 3/5

[mellow linden]

It was a close fight, admittedly, but it required little to no RNG

[long thicket]

Okay, Bertha is usually going smoothly, but then the moment she does Earthquake later on, it goes downhill.

I won by not much after having a great lead.

My go to for Flying is Ethan with a double support of Skyla and Falkner (no zone). Is that smart?

[nocturne pawn]

it should work

although if your ethan is 3/5 he wants rain

[obsidian agate]

ugh my steven is only 1/5 and bertha destroys solagleo in sync

[long thicket]

1/5, so that's not needed.

So he can boost under rain?

[old orchid]

he has rain multipliers

but he can run without rain

[long thicket]

Ah. But nah, I don't need that.

[nocturne pawn]

not at 1/5

[old orchid]

try offtyping or stalling instead

do you have Kimono Grimsley?

[obsidian agate]

yeah, he’s been helping with flinching but we don’t kill middle in time for sync

[old orchid]

what move level is he?

[obsidian agate]

4/5

[old orchid]

can try using Metal Burst to nuke sync after EX support sync

[nocturne pawn]

use metal burst on him

[nocturne pawn]

^

[long thicket]

I find it pretty hilarious how well Barry has been holding as an unit despite being launch.

Even with Piplup, he's kind of a beast.

[obsidian agate]

these are my EX supports, what would be recommended?

[old orchid]

his sync is good if you manage to setup both Inertia and Cakewalk

[old orchid]

i see Sonia

[long thicket]

Skyla helps with speed, Sycamore boosts everything on top of double multiplier...

[old orchid]

you can use Skyla as well

better saving Sycamore on another team

[obsidian agate]

is skyla useful for the flying battle? i was gonna save her for that if needed

[long thicket]

He'd be a bit more of a wild card, then? I can see that.

[old orchid]

depends on your team. Lucian has mixed moveset

[verbal karma]

Damn, now I tried an off-type team with SS Dawn/SS Lana/SS Elesa, and I am STILL unable to win 😦

Is this simply unbeatable for me?

[obsidian agate]

i’ll try sonia and grimsley first 🫡

[manic dust]

I am struggling with Lucian. Was trying to build a team around Blue but it's not quite coming together

[old orchid]

what team were you using?

[mellow linden]

No, can try SS Hilda or worst case scenario Poison stall

[old orchid]

Blue + SS Elesa + a defense buffer worked for me

[manic dust]

I tried him with Skyla and Falkner, and then started thinking about better tanks

Hmmm SS Elesa? I don't use her much but I will give that a shot

[old orchid]

Skyla is already good

SS Elesa has sync accel so you can stack sync buffs sooner

[manic dust]

Oh nice, that's good to know. Thanks!

[lunar meadow]

3/5 EX Pidgeot
1/5 Rotom
def buffer (I used magneton)

This combo def works for 2500

[old orchid]

Trallnar showcased this team earlier

[lunar meadow]

Just need one "breathtaking" MPR to cap pidgeot crit easily

[old orchid]

scroll up to check it out

[lunar meadow]

I didn't record it, just took a screenshot 😅

[long thicket]

Hop pretty much saved my Fighting damage.

[manic dust]

Thank you! You both are super helpful!

[nocturne pawn]

what happened to bea

i just used her for cynthia and it was easy

[long thicket]

My fault for skipping on Keldeo, Gapploct and probably another one I'm missing, but yeah.

[nocturne pawn]

bea is literally gen pool 😭

[long thicket]

Eeeeh, Bea is probably good on it, but I find her too awkward to use...

[mellow linden]

Bea is plenty for Fighting damage, but you can always just use both her and Champ Hop anyways

[nocturne pawn]

she just needs hilbert

[long thicket]

It's tough to explain, I'm not saying she's bad but I'm not fond.

[old orchid]

so you have been used her wrong

[long thicket]

Also she's not EX and not in my priorities for that.

[old orchid]

she doesnt need EX either

[nocturne pawn]

doesnt matter ex is just for wiping sides

[mellow linden]

Bea is extremely straightforward, her only "gimmick" is that she has a 4-gauge movee

[lunar meadow]

@manic dust
In general:
If you do not have a super strong pre-sync OHKO striker, I would recommend using STR params and planning to win on second sync.

Just buff your defenses to survive one enemy sync, and that's way more reliable than speed clears

[long thicket]

Which in this mode is pretty important.

[old orchid]

not at all

[nocturne pawn]

no it isnt

[mellow linden]

Strike EX is far from required

[old orchid]

her dps is so good it can oneshot sides even without zone

[nocturne pawn]

once you kill mid its substantially easier unless you dont have gauge

[manic dust]

Yeah, my params are always post-sync because I'm rarely good enough for pre, hahahah. I will recheck them though!

[long thicket]

So it's like all she needs is speed buffs?

[lunar meadow]

Ducc runs amucc.
Bea and Sirfetchd is fantastic at 2/5 and 3/5 ex

[nocturne pawn]

she needs attack

and speed

guess who does both reliably

[long thicket]

But eeeeeh, I'm not fond of her sadly.
She can boost her own attack, right?

[nocturne pawn]

cough

[nocturne pawn]

its slow

hence why i said she wants someone to buff it for her

[mellow linden]

She can boost her own Attack, but why bother when we have a billion Attack + crit Supports?

[long thicket]

And speaking of Fighting, I'm still shocked by how much Maylene's durability improved with her grid.

Drain Punch heals so much now.

[nocturne pawn]

i thought her use was for low rarity precision pals

[old orchid]

[long thicket]

But yeah, sorry, not a Galar person to begin with.
At least she was added before Dynamax so she has a good choice for a partner and not a Machamp because Kanto.

And before anyone says, yes, I know it's a Pokemon related to a Kanto mon, that's not what I mean.

[verbal karma]

Dear god!

Not even Poison Stall works this time!

Do I absolutely HAVE to learn how to use Metal Burst now? 😦

[keen jasper]

It's very strong if you know how to use it

[verbal karma]

Which I don't

Hence why I am trying to avoid it

But considering not even poison stall works now, I don't know what else I could do at this point 😦

...I guess nobody else here knows either?

[mellow linden]

What parameters and team did you use for Poison stall

[manic kiln]

did you try any offtype team

[verbal karma]

I used the regular Poison Stall parameters for my Poison Stall team

[mellow linden]

The ones in pins?

[verbal karma]

My poison stall team this time was Hop/SS Leaf/Janine

[verbal karma]

Yes

[mellow linden]

What specifically went wrong, then?

[verbal karma]

I tried SS Dawn/SS Lana/SS Elesa before and failed

[nocturne pawn]

hop buffs defense too slowly doesbt he

[mellow linden]

It’ll be easier to figure out the issue

[manic kiln]

hop is not great, use ex support for more bulk

[mellow linden]

I’m inclined to think the issue could be tank-related, yeah

[nocturne pawn]

id use ss blue

[mellow linden]

Skyla would be a good pick if she’s available

[verbal karma]

My sync pairs die faster than the opponents due from their poison

[nocturne pawn]

very good defenses and has team safety net in case shit hits the fan

[mellow linden]

You’re using Venom Drench?

[verbal karma]

Earthquake is particularly brutal

[verbal karma]

Yes

even with Venom Drench spam, it's still brutal

Because guess what

Critical Hits don't care about Venom Drench

[nocturne pawn]

then just run vigilance on everyone

if your problem was getting crit

[old orchid]

or just reset

[nocturne pawn]

not surprising cuz she buffs crit post sync

[mellow linden]

That’s why you run Vigilance on Janine and the tank at minimum

If crits are the issue it’s literally the simplest of fixes

[verbal karma]

I have Vigilance on Janine and the tank

It's SS Leaf who doesn't have Vigilance

[mellow linden]

Do you use SS Leaf outside of Poison stall?

[nocturne pawn]

are you at least able to mega with her

[mellow linden]

And do you have Skyla available?

[old orchid]

then give her Vigilance. very simple fix

[verbal karma]

Sometimes...though now that I think about it, I don't remember why I gave SS Leaf "Antitoxin"

[mellow linden]

…

[verbal karma]

Vigilance time it is

[mellow linden]

Switch her to Vigilance if her Lucky Skill is Antitoxin currently, yeah

One more thing: what round is this?

[nocturne pawn]

r4 is the best for poison stall aint it

[junior crown]

R2 and R4 are good, but yeah R4 is the best

[grand steppe]

Unova CS Week of Oct 23rd

Grimsely

• Increased Offenses (all)
• OAR4 with Crunch & Bite, Sides have Rock Tomb, Rock Smash, Snarl
• ⚠️ +2 & +3 Post-Sync

Marshal

• Less Mitigation , Posthaste (mid)

Shauntal

• Reduced Offenses, and Sides have Reduced HP (Easy Denials)
• ⚠️ Dauntless , Sides have Hypnosis
• Casts post-sync powering up Overheat

Caitlin

• No Mitigation against &
• ⚠️ Stored Power on Mid, and Alakazam
• Raises with hits
• Sets post-sync

Alder

• Reduced Offenses, and no mitigation against
• ⚠️ Hyper Beam, Body Slam and Wrap from Sides
• Raises by 6 post-sync
  Credit: @silent quail https://ng-pomatools.web.app/champion-stadium

[manic dust]

Whew, got Lucian finally. SS Elesa couldn't clutch it for me so I subbed in NC Bede and eked it out

[verbal karma]

Finally

[nocturne pawn]

wheres ur speed buff

[formal vigil]

Bea does buff her own speed

[nocturne pawn]

not maxed and slowly

[formal vigil]

It worked so

[nocturne pawn]

wait why did you even use brawly here im mad confused

hilbert + bea should already be insanely free

[formal vigil]

Defence debuffs I assume

[swift swan]

Could've had Maylene for a better effect methinks

Attack buffs, pep rally on TM, defense debuffs, accuracy

Because my Bea missed her meteor assault way too many times I had to ditch Hilbert

[nocturne pawn]

skill issue

[swift swan]

Luck is a skill and i have skill issue

[nocturne pawn]

i only missed one meteor assault in my two attempts on cynthia

although that was cuz i got lucky

[old orchid]

<-- who used Wally

[loud stratus]

Wtf there's wise entry x3 now

[mellow linden]

Sinnoh CS has existed for a while

And it’s exclusively the sides on Steel weak Bertha

[proud axle]

Re-enactment of some players' first experience with Steel-weak Bertha:

[nocturne pawn]

the biggest issue is head start 1

which is still bertha exclusive in cs

and it should stay that way

[minor mauve]

Steel weak bertha was easy with the galar trio

Pal marnie, gloria and hop

[keen jasper]

Imagine if Iris used her TM

[nocturne pawn]

she does

but its fighting weak

which is a joke stage

[keen jasper]

I mean like early

[tribal agate]

fight fire with fire

give Bertha max sync cd -3 and play Gloria + Hop

and watch her cry

[proud axle]

Maybe I could try it if Gloria ever finally shows up on a duo or trio banner where I don't already have everyone else on it

[nocturne pawn]

me who already rolled for the superior steel galar pf

[swift swan]

But getting synced makes me feel humiliated

[peak stirrup]

Think OG Leon/Skyla/Falkner is enough vs Lucian?

Normally I use SS Kris in Falkner’s spot but had to use her for water weak

[grizzled hearth]

Do you have any other flying users?

Cuz Leon's flying dps isn't the best

[nocturne pawn]

do you have darach

he nukes mid so leon can dps sides

[quaint solar]

Brah....R5 is killing me. 😮‍💨
What are people using for that 🤔

[mellow linden]

Your team lacks a proper buffer

Bring an Attack + crit Support, bonus points if they can also buff accuracy like 3/5+ Aaron

[grand steppe]

Lillie with Bea EX is more than enough I reckon

[quaint solar]

Tech Buff speed
Plus 3 crit on entry
Plus 4 attack
My problem is that I can't two Sync with this team appearntly and i can't survive 1st enemy sync

[mellow linden]

Bringing an Attack/crit Support means Bea can be gridded for more damage output and spend less time buffing herself

[grand steppe]

If the enemy is surviving two syncs then, you probably have too many +max HP, strength nodes. That or you forgot to switch Phys/spec/standard damage reduction

[quaint solar]

Correction, I cannot 2 Sync
Being trying to 20mins

[nocturne pawn]

shouldnt sc guzma also destroy it

[mellow linden]

That's because Dawn prevents quadqueue. You can bring a 3/5+ Hilbert or 2/5+ Aaron to both have proper buffing and be able to quadqueue

[nocturne pawn]

might be better here cuz of the acc drops

[grand steppe]

Are you proficient in quad queueing? Cause you’ll only get lucky with Dawn if the middle queues a trainer move as the round’s 3rd move.

The fight is also mostly special, so Dawn isn’t doing too much.

And Inertia users are getting debuffed in this fight.

So your not getting max ATK or speed.

[quaint solar]

Thanks 😊

[mellow linden]

The power of bringing the appropriate Support

[austere quest]

I killed Cynthia in the middle of a cycle before I got to Sync again

Sad!

Also releasing I need to remove a lot of my HP Requirements and how easier that makes things

Does the Power Up On Hit sort of conflict with the Standard Damage Reduction 8?

[fringe valve]

This weeks off type overkill

[quaint solar]

What you mean by conflict?
I myself use that together unless they are nuking really hard like R5 (Cynthia) and R2 (Lucian)

[mellow linden]

No. How would it?

Standard Damage Reduction 8 reduces non-supereffective damage taken, Power on Hit increases the opponents' damage when they successfuly hit with a damaging move

[nocturne pawn]

power on hit is for the enemy and standard damage reduction reduces non super effective

[peak stirrup]

This is all I have for flying types

Seriously Anni Skyla needs a rerun for flying zone

[austere quest]

Because I want a blanket set of guidelines for Ontyping and Offtyping. If I am able to kill them quick enough to the point where the Power on Hit doesn’t matter is my concern.

[quaint solar]

Use thegamingeevee F2P on R2 with blue, that tech flying type you have 2 that's F2P

[mellow linden]

Darach + Kahili or Lodge Serena + an Attack/crit Support should work, just grid Darach for Brave Bird

[peak stirrup]

Kahili/Darach/Falkner didn’t even get mid to half health

[mellow linden]

Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[peak stirrup]

Kahili Nuke with SEUN didn’t get mid to half

[north crown]

should've asked that first

[peak stirrup]

Master obv

[mellow linden]

Did you grid her for Haymaker?

[nocturne pawn]

nuke with darach then

[peak stirrup]

Yes

[nocturne pawn]

i got 35-38k with him

and probably use someone besides kahili for dps

[mellow linden]

I guess you can try Lodge Serena then since she should have a stronger nuke

Or Sync with Darach, sure

What parameters are you using, btw?

[nocturne pawn]

tbf gallade has like 42k hp with pre sync params

so i think darach is a better option here

[mellow linden]

That’s fair, Darach can still get a good nuke even with a Brave Bird grid

So could do Darach/Lodge Serena/Attack + crit Support either way

[mellow linden]

I’d personally recommend someone who buffs Attack and crit in the same move rather than Falkner

[grizzled hearth]

Someone like Hilbert

If you have him gridded

[mellow linden]

Alright, just wanted to make sure it wasn’t a parameter issue

[peak stirrup]

My Sonia is only 2/5 so she doesn’t have crit

[grizzled hearth]

I think crit with Hilbert is 3/5 too

[mellow linden]

3/5 Hilbert available?

[peak stirrup]

I need him for round 4 to buff Steven

[grizzled hearth]

BP Surge

[nocturne pawn]

what about aaron

2/5 aaron has atk and crit with mpr

and 1 bar spam

[mellow linden]

Hop or 2/5+ Aaron?

[grizzled hearth]

Honestly, how did I forget Hop

[nocturne pawn]

i was gonna say gauge issue then i forgot darach is +3 speed on tm

[peak stirrup]

Oh yeah Hop

[mellow linden]

Yeah, especially if you’re running Lodge Serena or Kahili as well

Since they both can do 1 gauge moves

[peak stirrup]

I mean Darach won’t get a full Nuke first round

[mellow linden]

He won’t necessarily need to

[nocturne pawn]

i mean he doesnt really need one

[grizzled hearth]

2 nukes is still preseync

[nocturne pawn]

he has pecking order and whatever the one for evasion was

and his brave bird hits pretty hard

[peak stirrup]

Yeah and it’s 40% chance to debuff evasion

[mellow linden]

You could turn denial with Lodge Serena (Staggering) or if Freevenge doesn’t trigger you could quadqueue

[nocturne pawn]

its actually 50%

[peak stirrup]

Darach Nuke with -6 Atk did 9k

Him with +6 Atk and +3 crit

[nocturne pawn]

what

[mellow linden]

Sounds like it didn’t crit

[nocturne pawn]

oh right

it can still not crit

[peak stirrup]

Yikes

[nocturne pawn]

just do it again

[mellow linden]

Sync Moves have -1 innate crit rate, so even at +3 it’s only an 80% chance to crit

[nocturne pawn]

he should definitely be able to nuke

[north crown]

tho 9k with max nuke - eva multiplier is still kinda sus

[keen jasper]

I'm wondering why he doesn't have the champion theme skill

[north crown]

spoilers ig? idrk

[minor mauve]

Aaron was just annoying this round

Dont have the rats

I used elesa classic, hau and skyla

[mellow linden]

Well it’s gonna be hard if you don’t have any crit buffs

[pure haven]

Will this work?

I'm worried about Aaron

[mellow linden]

You’re fine on Aaron

[nocturne pawn]

isnt elec aaron designed for celesa anyway

[mellow linden]

NY Volkner moreso, iirc

[nocturne pawn]

oh right

[pure haven]

R1 Aaron should be fine?

[mellow linden]

Should be

[north crown]

u got 2 special dps on aaron. I think you're fine

[paper summit]

ngl, R1 Aaron is a bit of a waste of the special parameter with that team

[keen jasper]

R4 Aaron is the best round right?

[north crown]

waitaminute why ssacerola with solga? iirc bertha doesn't set up sand

[keen jasper]

Yeah, and Solgaleo can fully set up its own buffs

[north crown]

depends on if your dps has paralysis multipliers

[pure haven]

He didn't even got to heal order

[nocturne pawn]

good

[pure haven]

And here I was worried as hell with him

[nocturne pawn]

yeah elec aaron isnt actually that bad

if anything ground weak is a lot more frustrating

[north crown]

@pure haven I would changing Hilbert to SSAcerola, as Zinnia has weather multipliers

[nocturne pawn]

because you have to use weather unless you want to get destroyed

[keen jasper]

It's more like mainly for paralysis to prevent him from using Heal Order

[north crown]

waitaminute Aaron has something like that?

[nocturne pawn]

ground weak aaron has multipliers if theres no weather

granted it is ground so you are meant to use bertha

[keen jasper]

Aaron has Acute Senses too

[nocturne pawn]

but as someone whos only ground dps is naomi

it wasnt fun

[pure haven]

And leave Hilbert with Bertha team?

[north crown]

that's an option, tho I would suggest rebuildilng that team, as I think you can fit in some def debuffing capabilities

[pure haven]

Hmm

[north crown]

e.g: kiawe, solgaleo, filler mga user

or something liek that

[pure haven]

Let me send my roster

[keen jasper]

What fight is that?

[pure haven]

Prolly gonna do Bertha R4

Oh wait

[keen jasper]

I'd prolly do Bertha on R3 to take advantage of the preemptive Reflect

[pure haven]

It's phsycal damage reduction for R3

Yeah

[peak stirrup]

2 Darach syncs didn’t kill mid

First did 11k 2nd did 5k

[keen jasper]

Didn't crit

That 2nd one

[mellow linden]

One if not both didn’t crit

The 2nd one definitely didn’t

[north crown]

phoebe/crit supp, solgaleo, masked royal

[keen jasper]

Against who, Bertha?

[north crown]

eyah

[keen jasper]

Doesn't Solgaleo have Critical Eye?

Unless their's isn't powerboosted/EX-ed?

[north crown]

idk if they have the power boost

if they do, they could easily use someone like aaron, hop, or someone else

[pure haven]

Is that for me?

And yeah I have solgaleo power boost

[north crown]

ok then use aaron or hop

[pure haven]

Then who do I put on Cynthia team?

Change Hilbert for Aaron?

[keen jasper]

You Aaron is 3/5 right?

[pure haven]

2/5

[keen jasper]

Replace someone for an accuracy buffer

[north crown]

bpclemont phoebe solga?

[pure haven]

What about Lillie, Bea and Hilbert?

[north crown]

oh nvm fighting lmao

[pure haven]

Don't have bpClemont

[half void]

I don't know if this is the right place to ask but I need help to understand why there is a damage difference between these two teams. I am against the electric type champion stadium on 2500 points. With SS Kris, SS Hau and Folkner, after ex support, with electric terrain and with 7 special damage ups, Hau deal 17000 damage with b electroweb. With Irida instead of SS Kris, electric terrain, hail boost, 7 special damage ups, -4 special defense, I only deal 8000 damage. So what is different?

[pure haven]

[mellow linden]

Is Fairy Zone up in both cases?

[half void]

Yes

[zealous karma]

The difference although it shouldn’t be too big is falkner aiding kris master passive

[mellow linden]

Oh, that probably would have some form of impact

[tired sleet]

Can you replicate it and take screenshots?

[zealous karma]

And unless you’re replacing rain with hail as soon as you do haus calc which’ll also overwrite haus fairy zone he won’t be getting the 20% from irida

Although this’ll fit better in #916852044692856834

[mellow linden]

Well they replaced SS Kris with Irida

So no Rain

[half void]

How can I post pictures? (I don't use discord often)

[tired sleet]

Press the little + button to the left of the textbox if you’re on mobile

[zealous karma]

You also lack the trainer role

[half void]

The buttom does not work 😦

[zealous karma]

Go to the very top of the server and click channels and roles

[half void]

@half void

It was 11k and not 8k but the question remains

[cinder summit]

Space Spreads over Hisui

Protects all allied sync pairs from damage from a hailstorm. Powers up the moves of all allied sync pairs during a hailstorm. Quickly charges the move gauge during a hailstorm.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Irida & Glaceon

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[zealous karma]

Are you sure fairy zone is up for hau in the first one?

[half void]

Yes because i use it on the last turn before synching

[zealous karma]

Cause to me at least it does look like a fairy zone difference

[mellow linden]

Lemme check something

[half void]

In what way does hau benefit from fairy zone anyway?

[grand steppe]

b electro web’s power doubles…

[cinder summit]

:information_source: | No move found with that name

:information_source: | No move found with that name

[grand steppe]

:/

[cinder summit]

Sygna Suit Hau & Tapu Koko

<:CATEGORY_SPECIAL:967450752098390077> <:TYPE_FAIRY:967452395686756392> Dazzling Gleam

Gauge: 2 | Power: 50 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: All opponents
Effect Tag: -
No additional effect.

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> Fairy Wish

Gauge: 2 | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: Entire field
Effect Tag: -
Turns the field of play's zone into a Fairy Zone. (A Fairy Zone powers up Fairy-type attacks.)

<:CATEGORY_SPECIAL:967450752098390077> <:TYPE_ELECTRIC:967452395640586290> B Electroweb

Gauge: 1 | Power: 100 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: All opponents
Effect Tag: -
Activation Condition: When weather, terrain, or zone effects are activated.
Deactivation Condition: When all weather, terrain, and zone effects are cleared.
This attack's power is doubled when the zone is a Fairy Zone. Lowers the target's Speed by 2 stat ranks. Raises the Speed of all allied sync pairs by 2 stat ranks.

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> Maximum Power!

Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 1
Target: Self
Effect Tag: -
Raises the user's Sp. Atk by 4 stat ranks. Raises the user's critical-hit rate by 2 stat ranks. Reduces the user's sync move countdown by 1 when the zone is a Fairy Zone.

<:CATEGORY_SPECIAL:967450752098390077> <:TYPE_ELECTRIC:967452395640586290> <:CONDITION_SYNC:967453032939925614> Thundering Deity Gigavolt Havoc

Power: 200
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
This attack's power increases when the terrain is Electric Terrain.

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[half void]

Didn't know that, but I am shure I always had fairy zone since i use it on the second and third turn