Champion Stadium

[old orchid]

Inertia is a must

[hushed sorrel]

farkapapa prob wont have enough orbs

[old orchid]

if you can, go for Sand Blaster as well

you have an entire week to do CS tho

[hushed sorrel]

stone edge move gauge is recommended but you reckon sand blaster

I get it so I can get the boost from bertha

[old orchid]

that team also has speed buffs so MGR is unneeded

[hushed sorrel]

mint

I did that one as well

I got like 1500 exp books from the ice gear event lolol

ok so mask man, Lucian, Phoebe. Grid or no grid

vs Lucian

[old orchid]

try with no grid first

TMR sync is good at base

just remember to buff him to max speed

[hushed sorrel]

with Lucian do you spam Confusion or growl

Im guessing confusion

due to passive

[dark osprey]

growl

so that aoe attack and special defense debuffs

[old orchid]

Confusion doesnt help much because mids often have mitigation 8

which makes confusion less less likely to proc

[hushed sorrel]

so technically I can just use the speed buff once on TMR and then get 3 speed from Lucian passive

[old orchid]

yeah

[hushed sorrel]

or is lucian better off to spam growl from get go

[old orchid]

his job is spamming Growl so yes

[hushed sorrel]

dam cant kill sides

lol

[hushed sorrel]

leetts go

got to clear the sides first

Gakon Im doing Cynthia now I got

Irida Ash Eevee

so I think we were discussing using Parameter 1

to get perm weather?

[whole geyser]

Any advice/tips what team/pairs i should use to beat Bertha? im having a tough time w her

[hushed sorrel]

I used Adaman level 120 and it was a breeze lol

no grid

1/5

[keen jasper]

What are your units? Show them here using this

+tracker

[frozen depot]

https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/

For newcomers/beginners, check the video below on how to properly showcase your pairs : https://i.imgur.com/A0XcAgZ.mp4

[hushed sorrel]

Yoooooo let's go

Cheers Gakon

is there a quick guide on master mode?

[sick inlet]

Your best shot is in the pins and play around with the parameters given to suit your teams

[old orchid]

Since this is the first time you do MM so try to aim for 4k3 points first

[hushed sorrel]

is there like a copy paste for beginner and I can figure out later lol

[toxic cobalt]

Same teams copy the 850 pins

[sick inlet]

Try this

[hushed sorrel]

okie

the links dont work

[sick inlet]

That's weird, I was on there a minute ago

For some reason the first link isn't working anymore

[tribal agate]

[tired sleet]

+csmm does it work here?

[tribal agate]

that's odd

[frozen depot]

MasterMode Presets/Recommendations :

• Full Google Sheet : https://tinyurl.com/CSMMParameters
• 2500/2000 Screenshot : https://tinyurl.com/CSMMPresets2

PoMaTools for Movesets/Stats/Calcs : https://ng-pomatools.web.app/champion-stadium
Key rewards cutoffs are at 4.200 pts (850 each) for EX Materials, and at 7.500 pts (1500 each) for BP, Sync Orbs, Skill Sphere

[tribal agate]

it's the same link

https://tinyurl.com/CSMMParams

dunno why it died

this one works now

thanks for the notification

[sick inlet]

@hushed sorrel i grab a picture for you but Dreamy was already here link works now

[hushed sorrel]

o cool

[sick inlet]

Picture too incase you're lazy like me

[hushed sorrel]

ok is it possible to dumb it down for me

I just pick any team and tick those box?

[sick inlet]

The check marks are what you want to tick
If it's ontype team, you want to go for the left boxes

If you're using a team with no ontype damage dealer

You want to tick the right side

[hushed sorrel]

O sheeet ok thats simple enough

I will give it a go

[sick inlet]

You can swap the checkmarks within the "box" to suit your needs

[hushed sorrel]

so say for example for Bertha I can use Leaf Adamn Erika

[sick inlet]

This

This instead of doing physical reduction put special reduction

Since Adaman is physical

You don't want to nerf your dmg

[hushed sorrel]

ok lets say I use Charizard, Hilbert, Houou. I pick off type

whats pre-sync vs off sync

screw it just do the 850 one hahah way simpler

[old orchid]

Yeah just do 850 pts first to warm up

[hushed sorrel]

lucian is so freaking tanky lol

[grand steppe]

I've been making a different format to the current parameters list, can you let me know if maybe this is more digestable:

[hushed sorrel]

thanks

to be honest the whole list there to scroll through is a bit easier because you can match them up

in this short form you need to look through the whole list and look for it

but I guess both works

[marble orbit]

Any idea how to build up rock types against flint?

[grand steppe]

These are listed in the same order, if that helps.
and Color coded to show you which Points Bracket they belong to

[hushed sorrel]

yea I understand

[marble orbit]

My rock 5* are 1/5 Kukui and 4/5 Gordie

[nocturne pawn]

you can try using a 4* roark with grid

[hushed sorrel]

I think for someone like me, I kinda just want a summary of what I should aim for

but I guess its no diff, you just have parameter

[grand steppe]

Do you have any of the 3★ & 4★ Rock-types gridded?

[marble orbit]

Nope im the type who dont look at 3 and 4 sorry :')

I guess i should look at em

I did 5* Roxanne

[grand steppe]

Right, I was trying to leave the options open so that players could choose what's right for them, because teams can vary:
-mixed types
-mixed physical/special
-units with or w/o interference/status
-units with or w/o fields etc

[nocturne pawn]

a 4* roark is probably better than gordie or kukui

i would try roark sand setter support

[grand steppe]

But I understand that most people just want a "do-it-for-me"

[hushed sorrel]

haha yea because when I look at it for the first time

its very overwhelming

so I kinda just want to copy

and then come up with my own later

[marble orbit]

Any recommended build for it? Very unsure on rocks and grounds and dragons

[grand steppe]

Many 5/5 low rarity gacha can sync harder than 1/5 5-stars.

[nocturne pawn]

i mean gordie can nuke

but like

[grand steppe]

But Gordie should be fine, you're just gonna be low on DPS. Gordie can sync middle, while someone like Roark can DPS.

[nocturne pawn]

kekwalk

so its not exactly easy to set up

[nocturne pawn]

what are they gonna do about sun though

charging sun 5 flare blitz hurts even on hard

[grand steppe]

so much weather this week

[marble orbit]

I'll give it a try but i think worst case scenario would most likely i have to skip this week cause i ran out of lvl up material but we'll see

[nocturne pawn]

do you have a weather setting support preferably physical like ingo

[hushed sorrel]

o yo

I farmed the ice event

like nonstop

got like 2000 books of exp

[marble orbit]

im sad to admit that the least pairs i got are like Rock Dragon Ground Fairy

[nocturne pawn]

oh yeah gear events are infinite xp glitches

[hushed sorrel]

I leveled like 12 pokemon to level 120 - 130 lol

[grand steppe]

You can farm an unlimited amount of Level Up books from the Ice-Type gear event.

[marble orbit]

so i dont have most if not all of the "must haves"

heck i dont even have some gen pool ones like Olivia, Looker, Courtney

[nocturne pawn]

must haves arent a thing in this game

[marble orbit]

yeah i know 3 and 4 have potential too but its kind of a bummer since most people are killing it with stuff like Cynthia, SS Diantha etc

i even started pulling on monthly banner for a chance of getting Cynthia lol

[grand steppe]

Flint has reduced flinch mitigation, so the f2p route for Flint has been to utilize SS Brock. Aurochs didn't even change the weather.

[nocturne pawn]

dont pull if you dont have pity

[marble orbit]

ah no just daily discount

[nocturne pawn]

just save those for a select scout

[hushed sorrel]

I ended up using these ones. Gakon helped me with it. I dont know if its helpful. Literally grinded most of their levels this week.

Bertha: Adaman/SS Erika - Melony- Lucy. Recommend doing this team on R1
Lucian: Phoebe - The Masked Royal - Lucian
Flint: Olivia - Bertha - Skyla
Aaron: Aaron - Bea - Sycamore tanking
Cynthia: Eevee - SST Red/Ash

[marble orbit]

of course SST Red and Ash appears 😭 sorry im just that down right now

im not even sure if im this unlucky with pulls or i just havent experimented enough teams

[nocturne pawn]

roark works as long as you have sync orbs

[hushed sorrel]

you guys did say Roark was better than Olivia, I just thought Olivia was cooler

[marble orbit]

I kinda got it drummed in my head that SSR Cynthia, SSA Cynthia, SST Red, SS Hau and Ash are like "absolute must haves" so everytime i see people just owning CS with them i get depressed

sorry if i seem like kinda ranting rn

[nocturne pawn]

no one is a must have

and tbh ss hau at 1/5 isnt that great

[grand steppe]

Better than 1/5 Olivia maybe, she still has a better sync and access to . Also this assumes Roark is promoted to 5 .

[nocturne pawn]

really wants 3/5 for that extra utility and sync damage

[hushed sorrel]

yea I ran it once with no grid

then second time with the grid it was completely different

[marble orbit]

Maybe its a mistake to look at the "recommended teams for this area" section before battling

[nocturne pawn]

yeah uh

thats not really helpful

[marble orbit]

oh and also how pairs have to be 3/5 for some reasons

cause of grid

[hushed sorrel]

what do you have

can we have a look

[marble orbit]

like i get it but painful for f2ps

oh hold up

[grand steppe]

Hmm my Gordie is non-ex, maybe I can run a test myself, just let me know which pairs.

[hushed sorrel]

surely people playing pokemon masters are grown men who are working 🥹

[soft gyro]

If you ever wonder of the possibility of that being true, remember Bronies were a thing

[hushed sorrel]

lol

[marble orbit]

the long awaited list lol

[grand steppe]

1. Have you unlocked Master Mode for this region? Or are you still working towards the type medal?
2. What opponent's have you defeated if any? What Round are you on?
3. If you are doing Master Mode, how many points are you aiming for each round (max: 2500)?

[marble orbit]

oh wtf i have so many water pairs

[hushed sorrel]

o yo you got some sick pairs

[marble orbit]

1. Nope still on Hard, working towards completing medal
2. R4 Flint and Cynthia left

[nocturne pawn]

you can try off type with kris

[hushed sorrel]

ton of s tier

[marble orbit]

Ice ground rock ghost dragon's left

[grand steppe]

So you can unlock Master Mode, this week, if you get those 4 types then? That's good.

[marble orbit]

Yeye

[grand steppe]

kinda hurts that you need 5 types in 2 matches, that means 5/6 pairs

[marble orbit]

im in shambles

and this is prob the last week before region change right

[grand steppe]

next week is still sinnoh

[marble orbit]

THANK THE HEAVENS

Did datamine show whats the next region? :O

Going by event order im guessing its Hoenn

[main crow]

Nope

[grand steppe]

It did not, since it goes up to the end of next week

[main crow]

We don't have datamine until it's past 25th

[nocturne pawn]

i want it to be hoenn but at the same time not

cuz iirc it has a lot of entry x2 too and they’re tough too

[grand steppe]

Recommendations:
ssN, Ghetsis, Gala, Irida, Melony
Bertha or Nita
Gordie or Kukui
Pheobe, Acerola, Fantina, Morty
ssBrendan, cIris, Lance, Cyrus

[hushed sorrel]

off type - does this mean you are using something that is not super effective? or using a team that has diff typing

[grand steppe]

There's not much choice in the ground pool, so I recommend Bertha or Nita, Bertha can counter flint's weather or you can use Nita to support.

[marble orbit]

not super effective i think

[nocturne pawn]

off type can mean the same thing in a practical sense

[marble orbit]

Bertha gonna have to represent till i get Courtney or Cynthia

[grand steppe]

problem is 2/5 bertha sync is kinda meh, but it should be okay for just hard mode

[marble orbit]

I tried Melony Irida and ssN earlier, melted before i could end him

[grand steppe]

Off-type means not supereffective. So 17/18 other types vs the opponent.

[grand steppe]

You don't want two ice-types. Unless the other team is set.

[marble orbit]

let me think how to mix them up so i get at least 2 types covered

[grand steppe]

You can only repeat 1 type in the two teams.

[nocturne pawn]

i would say bertha roark and hop

[old orchid]

gauge issue

[marble orbit]

im trying to make ss Brendan and Cyrus work but thinking how

[nocturne pawn]

fuck

[old orchid]

bring a weather setter other than sand

the duo is good enough

[nocturne pawn]

i wanted to use ss brendan and irida together but that works too

[old orchid]

Irida is the third then

[marble orbit]

fair enough i can try it out

[grand steppe]

ssBrendan + Fantina + Irida for Cynthia
Bertha + Kukui + a support of your choice for Flint

oh crap cynthia is wise entry x2

[nocturne pawn]

she isnt

she has 50% more spdef in sand but its not wise entry x2

that was last week

[grand steppe]

Oh I'm on wrong week

okay thats good

Kukui's flinch will be good for Flint, it's just the DPS is very lacking in that team.

[grand steppe]

Did you see my recommends for unlocking the type medal?

[marble orbit]

Ok it ended badly

Flint 1 hit KO my SS Brendan lmao

[nocturne pawn]

what happened

[grand steppe]

what level is ssBrendan?

[marble orbit]

Ye i did

[old orchid]

Sages said use SS Brendan on Cynthia tho

[marble orbit]

Oh cause i thought its for flint

I didnt read the above cause i started

I mean i thought ssbrendan cyrus and irida is for flint

[grand steppe]

Cynthia is harder, you should probably save Irida for her.

Plus Irida counters her Sand.

If Flint queues Flare Blitz as the first move you just need to reset. It's just unlucky.

[lunar meadow]

Cynthia is hard?
Don't people have Palkia for free?

[swift swan]

the sand can be tricky

though it's dragon weak so at the end of the day, yes, you have free damage dealers

[grand steppe]

He's doing type medal, can't repeat types.

[lunar meadow]

I find the champion to always be the easiest fights due to the double passive bonuses

[grand steppe]

Let's see the Flint & Cynthia team you have in your preset teams?

[upbeat dragon]

i wasnt able to defeat flint
so i sicced the rats on him and cleared my very first full 2.5k csmm with ease

[lunar meadow]

12.5k total?

[grand steppe]

I'm guessing first 2.5k battle period...

You could've spread them out and got 2x 2.5k battles.

[upbeat dragon]

yes

first time

so proud

[grand steppe]

oh, well then grats

[upbeat dragon]

thnx

[hushed sorrel]

woot finished 850 lol

[upbeat dragon]

i finished 850 a few months back for my very first csmm clear too

[hushed sorrel]

better sleep..

[upbeat dragon]

so nice

[lunar meadow]

Yay. Congrats!!!

[upbeat dragon]

thnx

now that ive cleared 12.5k on sinnoh ill be able to clear 12.5k everywhere except hoenn

[nocturne pawn]

im honestly surprised people say they struggle with flint and bertha cuz those are the ones i can consistently beat on csmm

[lunar meadow]

My first full clear (back when 7500 was the max) required me to toxic stall two fights 😅

[nocturne pawn]

aaron and lucian for me are the big headaches

[upbeat dragon]

i dont have many good rock type units and after 2 tries i gave up on trying to beat flint with olivia
so rat time

[lunar meadow]

Psychic-weak flint is hard, because it's fire blast can OHKO my normal psychic type tank.

Aside from that, I don't struggle

[upbeat dragon]

i only use the rats in csmm for electric weak stages or when it's absolutely necessary to offtype otherwise i ontype

[nocturne pawn]

i just sicc’d ss steven on his ass

[old orchid]

people have different roster and skill

[upbeat dragon]

sadly i dont have limited rock, fairy and poison units so i have to offtype them with the rats

[nocturne pawn]

i suppose but thats also coming from people who regularly do 12.5k so it just has me curious

maybe steel weak bertha’s gonna humble me next week

[hushed sorrel]

o I just realized I did the Cynthia with on type boxes with off type lol

no wonder why it was so hard

[lunar meadow]

Steel-weak Bertha is annoying because she takes reduced physical damage.

Basically designed for Duraludon.

But the damage she deals isn't too threatening, I always just push forward with Metagross anyway lol

[nocturne pawn]

designed for duraludon but sides have wise entry x3 :thonk:

[upbeat dragon]

oh steel weak bertha i clear with solgaleo, ss blue and colress for defense debuff

[lunar meadow]

I've done a fight with "physical damage reduction" because I forgot to swap after a fight where I'd used special attacking haha

[nocturne pawn]

i actually did that with anni n on aaron

i was like why is he only doing 1.4k after supp ex

checked params and saw special dr 8

[lunar meadow]

Wait, isn't steel weak Bertha the one that takes reduced physical?

Idk... I just clear everything monotype anyway...

[nocturne pawn]

i dont think mid has an entry x2 passive

glacia has sentry entry x2

[hushed sorrel]

It's quite fun to spam surf after ex support sync lol

It reminds me if playing emerald

Of

[lunar meadow]

Maybe that's the steel-weak I'm thinking of haha

[clever breach]

Is sinnoh like harder than the other cs ?

[sinful garden]

yeah

[old orchid]

depends on your roster and skill, the hardest region is interchangeable among Sinnoh, Hoenn and Kalos

[clever breach]

Ah

[sinful garden]

hoenn and sinnoh are harder, kalos can also be difficult

[clever breach]

I was wondering why i am struggling

Are these regions just more gimmicky?

[old orchid]

basically

[manic kiln]

more hp, more passives

[clever breach]

Ah

Wierd that they did it like that

[sinful garden]

its just that they are newer

[clever breach]

Ah

[sinful garden]

so more gimmicks were introduced over time

[clever breach]

Makes sense

[old orchid]

more and more op units get released so they increased the difficulty

also to promote and bait them

[clever breach]

But the older cs stay the same

But why did they do sinnoh and hoen later than alola for example

[sinful garden]

we cant really know that

we dont work at dena

[clever breach]

Yeah true

But thx

[manic kiln]

usually gacha plan their contents for years ahead so they can't rush all contents out at once. it would be boring if they release all 7-8 cs at the start then having no change for 3 years

1st year: kanto johto unova + hard mode and 7.5k MM
2nd year: alola sinnoh hoenn + 10k MM
3rd year: kalos + 12.5k MM

[north crown]

does anyone want help? need to get my brain going

[tired sleet]

Maybe do a themed clear for cs with only some units

[keen jasper]

25k pts. this week

[undone brook]

do people usually have like

5 teams they run every week just to get rewards

i've been playing long enough to have units that are broken enough to off-type anything, so i'm wondering if it's a good idea for me to always have fallback teams so i don't do cs 30 minutes before it expires?

[tired sleet]

I guess people could do that if they wanted to but it seems boring to use the same units every week

[tired sleet]

Broken fallback teams is a good idea though, but I’d personally use them as a last resort

[keen jasper]

Just do F2P teams

[undone brook]

gotcha, ty!

[undone brook]

i spend more time teambuilding than i do on runs tho

[tired sleet]

That’s the fun part

[keen jasper]

I've done 19.5k on one of the hardest CS ever, quite the achievement for me

[nocturne pawn]

now get 20k

[keen jasper]

Am not sure how

[north crown]

the downside to solely focusing on wildcards comes from the cs gimmicks, such as parameters adn stage gimmicks

damn I needed to say gimmick 2 times

[undone brook]

i've already set up an offtype param preset and i have two (three if you count solgaleo) piercing blows units so i'm hoping that's enough

[mellow linden]

Piercing Blows won’t help against Entry x2 passives, just as a heads-up

[north crown]

If you really want to rpepare for every entry x2 scenario, you would need to make 36 preset teams, which seems pretty obnoxious.

and that's just the defensive entry passives

I would just stick to teambuilding on the fly; it would also make you a better player overall.

[undone brook]

gotcha, ty!

[fringe valve]

How do you view your sync pairs like that again?

[north crown]

sync pair tracker -> export image

[desert berry]

https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/

[fringe valve]

Thx

Is there a code that you can paste from your game, or do you have to manually input it

[north crown]

not from game, though it's possible to export a large text file that you can use to paste into the import section so you don't have select your roster manually every single time

[desert berry]

Manual input sadly

After yes you need to export the manually inputted pairs then save the code and paste whenever to continue where you left

or not close the tab at all

[north crown]

or just not delete browser cookies so the save data is always on your browser

though I think we can all agree that backing up that data somewhere is preferable

[heady trail]

Here's my roster - need to beat Aaron Flint and Cynthia at 2.5k if possible

[tired sleet]

Aaron: SS Morty, SS Red
Cynthia: Cyrus, Winona, Skyla (I’d typically recommend Lucas but they have sandstorm that you want to remove)

[mellow linden]

As for Flint, are Nessa, Sonia, and May/Winona available?

Wait, nvm

You have 5/5 EX Kris, so no need for Nessa

And I'm dumb and thought Flint was weak to Water this week

[heady trail]

Skyla, Sycamore, Lucian, Marnie, Lorelei (Cloyster) and SS Erika are used

[tired sleet]

Perhaps use Roark, Bertha, and Sonia for Flint

[heady trail]

Yeah Flint would be a no brainer if he was water - rock is probably my weakest type atm

[mellow linden]

Yeah, what Winston said

[tired sleet]

I’m gonna test out that team rq

[mellow linden]

Roark is very strong if gridded

[heady trail]

roark is 4 star, is that still usuable?

[mellow linden]

Iirc 4-stars is the minimum you'd need to get for him. He doesn't have EX anyways

[heady trail]

I forget some units don't have access to EX at all!

[mellow linden]

Not for now

[heady trail]

is Aaron really doable with just SS Morty and SS Red?

I was using hop to max red's stats

[mellow linden]

Well, obviously you'd use a 3rd team member. I think only 2 were mentioned because the 3rd becomes a lot less important. Hop would be fine if you're using SS Red's Trainer Move to max his Sp. Atk.

[heady trail]

My perception is skewed by seeing cracked release youtubers doing Dark stages with just CMarnie

This is my first 2.5k attempt tho

I like the theorycrafting it requires tho

[tired sleet]

That would be even better, i just said 2 sync pairs so you could fill the third

[heady trail]

Makes me actually utilise my full roster

[tired sleet]

But perhaps use a weaker support than hop so you can save him elsewhere

[mellow linden]

Showcase videos sometimes eschew practicality for views. Unless you're doing absurdly long LG streaks or a challenge run there's no reason to use less than 3 Sync Pairs on a team

[heady trail]

idk about using Winona for Cynthia - wouldn't May be better?

[mellow linden]

Both Winona and May would be off-typing since I assume Cyrus is using Spacial Rend + Sync Move here, so Winona's flinch pushes her ahead in that case. I could be wrong though

[tired sleet]

I just said Winona as a filler to remove her sand while flinching, but may would be solid as well
Honestly if you wanted to, you could play aggressively with Lucas+Cyrus and not even replace the sand

[heady trail]

also do I NEED 140+ units for 2.5k or can i get away with 135s, I just don't have the cap items for it atm

[mellow linden]

120 is generally sufficient, even

[heady trail]

i could easily get the items needed, it'd just take a few days

ah, wonderful

CS scares me so so much, irrationally so i'm finding out

although it did take me a while to figure out bertha

gah, aaron one shots red with sync

[tired sleet]

What params are you using?

[heady trail]

i got rly close - think i can do it just need a few attempts

forgot to put on crit strike 2 and max theme skills - made a surprising good difference for the 2nd attempt

[mellow linden]

You should be able to Sync twice before Aaron Syncs if you quadqueue

[heady trail]

quad queue?

Parameters:
Phys Dmg Reduction
Special Dmg Reduction
Interference Immunity
Strength >1
Sync Buff >5
Ally Healing <5
Power on Hit >1
Physical Dmg Reduction 8
Gradual Healing at Start
Power on hit 2
Strength 3
Ally MG -2
standard damage reduction 8
strength 6

[zealous karma]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqxXZlqtmXE

[undone brook]

do you guys usually mash for quad-queue or try to manually time it?

i've recently tried manually timing it more but i'm still not great at it

[heady trail]

can i not use weather for the first sync rotation at ALL, or just the first 3 inputs

it's a little confusing to grasp

[tired sleet]

To quad queue? As long as it’s not in the 1st few inputs it’s fine

[heady trail]

right let me think so

flame charge > hop tm > heat wave > sunny day > hop tm > red tm > morty tm > hop tm/metal claw > red tm > morty sync > flame charge

that would be my rotation right

i forgot to mention i do have morty ex'd, think i forgot to put it on my tracker

and i cant have hop tank bc of freevenge procs, right?

OKAY I DID IT THAT WAS REALLY INTENSE

[granite spindle]

Can somebody give me some pointers on how to beat Flint in the regular mode? I already beat Aaron and Bertha and now I'm using Olivia, Falkner and Roxanne but it doesn't seem to work

Here's my roster for reference

[old orchid]

how many types are you missing in the medal?

in that team, there is no weather changer, thats why you keep failing

you need to change sun to other weather, preferly sand because Olivia wants sand for nuking

[tired sleet]

Their olivia is 1/5 though, so she doesn’t benefit from sand particularly more than the others

Rain or Hail would work too technically

[granite spindle]

I’m missing basically every type in the medal

And I tried to look into the sand setter but I only have Palossand which didn’t really help

[old orchid]

its the opposite, Palossand helps a lot

at 1/5 grid you can grid Aggravation, which doubles base flinch chance of Astonish

allows you to deny moves

[granite spindle]

Ah okay I didn’t grind anything that’s why

Grid*

So then Roxanne is good for the support?

[old orchid]

no

you want to fill many types as possible, because Roxanne overlaps with Olivia

use Falkner

[granite spindle]

Interesting okay

Falkner always seems to die really quickly though is there any way to kinda work around that

[old orchid]

try to flinch to deny moves

your team is Olivia, Acerola and Falkner

[granite spindle]

And is 120 okay for level or should I go for 125

[old orchid]

120 is fine

[granite spindle]

Any other suggestions?

[old orchid]

just remember to replace sun as soon as possible

and do triple queue

[granite spindle]

Okay sounds good thank you! Hopefully this goes well lol

[old orchid]

[granite spindle]

All right, update. I tried for a while but the best I managed to do was get both of the side pokemon and half off of Arcanine

It seems like the biggest issue I'm having is that nothing can really tank a hit which is kinda inevitable even with the flinch

[old orchid]

focus on mid until it goes down

then flinch the sides to buy time for Olivia

[granite spindle]

All right, sure

To get the middle should I keep flinching it also? Because that's what I'm currently doing

Or should I occasionally flinch the sides

[old orchid]

when mid is flinch switch to flinch the sides
pay attention to mid's flinch icon flashing so that you can time to continue flinching it

[granite spindle]

All right I tried it again but it just isn't working out

Any more tips before I just try again tomorrow?

[swift swan]

isn't working out how? the flinch doesn't proc?

[grim bison]

Next week will be hell for me

I have no good special electric type units and no good flying type units

[zealous karma]

Hau is pretty great for Aaron, and for flying blue was enough in the past for me or you can off type it with smth like CMarnie if you have her

[grim bison]

I remember I beat Aaron with SS Red so I think I'll do that

[zealous karma]

Oh

[swift swan]

2.5k offtype will be quite difficult

[old orchid]

Just use Hau. Trust me

[soft gyro]

Hau is not bad

He has inertia too

[upbeat dragon]

rats

exist

if they have them ofc

[hushed sorrel]

alriggght Im ready to take on this 1500 CS

letsss go

can someone explain post sync pre sync?

on the sheet

[old orchid]

Post sync means you clear stages after opponent sync move

Pre sync is the opposite

[hushed sorrel]

is it possible to clear it before they sync haha

I guess my team is not that op

[old orchid]

You can with some tricks

The most popular one is quad queue. Check the last pin for how to do it

[hushed sorrel]

so umm Gakon

[old orchid]

You can also use sync move to kill sides before they use a move, its called turn denial. And there is sync accelerating moves

[hushed sorrel]

want to help me build some teams? 😂

[old orchid]

You make teams first then we will give feedback

[hushed sorrel]

yeap on it

[swift swan]

i was referring to offtyping electric-weak aaron specifically. rats are not offtype

[hushed sorrel]

where is that link for the tool to put together your pokemon

[old orchid]

You mean the tracker?

[hushed sorrel]

found it

I got 2/5 Yamper 😮

[keen jasper]

Wait, you have Hilbert? I thought Hilbert is just a myth?

[hushed sorrel]

I dont get it 😂

[keen jasper]

Because I don't have Hilbert for over 1 year of playing, he's been eluding me in banners

[hushed sorrel]

O sheet haha Ive been so lucky

it was perfect for zard

hmm that team for lucian is so weak

lol

[hushed sorrel]

woot finished 1500 lol

Lucian was so hard I don’t know if I can beat him at 2000

I used SST red, masked royal, Sonia

Maybe I need to grid Masked Royal

[sand karma]

That team should be 4king

Check parameters

[hushed sorrel]

I did Lucian on third where sync is stronger I think

[nocturne pawn]

that buffs sync buffs

so you want to use support ex

[hushed sorrel]

O

Then maybe I need to ex Sonia

Flint was hard off type as well I was on 2 mons with red health but he let me spam 4 moves in a row in the end

[hushed sorrel]

The only problem I have is no grid and low levels lol they are still 125

[old orchid]

Red doesnt need grid to offtype

And TMR can nuke at base

Well you already cleared Lucian so note this next time

Congrats on the first 7.5k

[hushed sorrel]

Thanks. What did you use against Lucian

And why

😇

[nocturne pawn]

masked royal has dominating sync 5 so he has a better innate nuke than most other techs

at higher move levels he gets a bunch of other multipliers too

[upbeat dragon]

Just for the record (altho it happened a day back)
My very first 12.5k mastermode run that too on the Sinnoh Champion Stadium using these teams
Off-typed Flint with the rats and Cyrus was able to take down Cynthia (to my surprise)

[old orchid]

#1010274591601598555 for clears and flexing next time

[upbeat dragon]

Gotcha

Sorry

Just kind of a big moment for me cause it’s the first time ive gotten all the CS rewards

[old orchid]

congrats you can make a thread in #1010274591601598555 and post every clears into it in the future

[upbeat dragon]

Yep

[full mesa]

Don't underestimate F2P legendaries.

[tidal zephyr]

ah does anyone have tips on how to max 12.5k :0 i beat bertha since i maxed out adaman but im having trouble with the rest

this is my current roster

[lunar meadow]

@tidal zephyr

Fire: (special defense will help you)
Redzard
Mo-Oh

Rock: (need physical damage, and to remove sun)
Lycanroc-Olivia
Need sand

Dark: (need physical damage)
Incineroar/Mightyena
Darkrai

Dragon: (remove sand, if possible)
Palkia
Dialga

Off-type option:
Ashchu/Luxray

Good supports:
Samurott, Rotom, Latios, Swanna, Blastoise, Snorlax, Mortmagius

It's annoying going through massive walls of other people's units ☠️

I recommend learning to teambuild:

1. What is the enemy damage weakness? Which is your best damage dealer of that type?
   1a. If you do not have a good damage dealer of said type, who is a universal option?

2. What does that unit need to be supported? Weather/terrain/zone, buffs?

3. If your team cannot pre-sync clear, will they have enough defense/health to survive the enemy sync? Lots of good defensive supports are great for post-sync clears (taking all str params)

[tidal zephyr]

ah ty!

sorry its been a while since ive played the game for real so im having trouble adjusting with all the stuff thats been added since i last did hard mode

[zealous karma]

In case you want a guide on team@building

+teambuilding

+101

[frozen depot]

> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you have done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding and gameplay.

1. When making a team, you usually want to focus building around a selected damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or not if they are strong enough to off-type). This can be a / striker or a tech. Take the time to read that damage dealer's kit in its entirety (moves and passives) to see what they can buff themselves. Critical-Hit Rate maxes at +3 while all other main buffs go to +6. Damage dealers should be in slot 3 for tactics.

2. Once you figured out your damage dealer, pick a to put on slot 1 in tactics so it takes the damage. The support will often want to cover the buffs the damage dealer needs and cannot max by themselves reliably (look for critical-hit rate, attack or special attack for example). If your damage dealer is fully self sustainable, the support can cover healing or defensive utility as needed!

3. Finally your last slot is entirely flexible and depends on your first two picks. You can take a tech focusing on utility like debuffs or weather/terrain that empowers your damage dealer, or another support that focuses on defenses and healing to survive longer, perhaps even boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a second damage dealer! It's important to experiment and remember that a successful team will be able to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealer fast so they can focus on pumping out damage as soon as possible!

Want to know more about Triple-Queue and other information about the game? Visit our #1010307000346878062 or check the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone!

[tidal zephyr]

ooh ty :D

[toxic cobalt]

You can do it! Remember to use SS Lyra as a cheat code

[tidal zephyr]

yeah her and adaman kinda melted bertha 😅

[toxic cobalt]

That would do it yep

[lunar meadow]

@tidal zephyr
Having any more luck?

[tidal zephyr]

oh it went great! ty for all your help :D i was able to get 12.5k

[lunar meadow]

Congrats!

[north crown]

@tidal zephyr Are you good with the helpers' aid, or you need more help on something?

[rigid flint]

I think they've already completed it!

[tidal zephyr]

everything is good for now but ty (^^)

[static gorge]

i have ss red, blue arcanine, and silver without boost

im just gonna offtype

[swift swan]

is this hard mode? then you'll be fine with those pairs

[static gorge]

csmm

[swift swan]

2.5k offtype is quite hard because of the additional bulk you'll be giving

i'd still try Silver and SS Red with a good speed support

[static gorge]

is okay SST Red deals

[old orchid]

you mean can SST Red offtype?

yes he can

[static gorge]

yes thats what i meant is that its okay because SST Red is too good

[rotund lagoon]

So you meant Red with Pikachu, not Red with Charizard?

[static gorge]

no i meant red with charizard

i spent awhile trying to beat it with 1/5 SS Red (& Charizard)

got tired and chose to off-type with SST Red (& Pikachu)

[rigid flint]

You should be able to do MM if you have SS Red

Ah

[hushed sorrel]

does it matter if you choose post sync but kill them before sync?

[old orchid]

no

[sinful garden]

what matters is that you actually beat the stage

[hushed sorrel]

okies

man Aaron's pinsir healing is so BS

lol

is there anything I can do

Im using Rapidash, Charizard, Hilbert

[dark osprey]

Can try pre sync and hope your Charizard (SS Red I assume) is 3/5 for haymaker and solar flare and hope you're setting sun on the second or third round of turns so that it helps with the sync

[hushed sorrel]

yea so first 7 moves. my destiny, crit buff, fire spin, my destiny, speed buff, sunny day, blast burn

btw what is inteference immunity

[sinful garden]

no trapping/confusion/flinching

[hushed sorrel]

i see

[toxic cobalt]

I'm confused, why 7 moves? You shoudl be planning along 9 moves (3 move sets)

[hushed sorrel]

ok last 3 is crit buff, fire spin, sync

Im going try proc confusion and get a speeding sun...

lol

see if I can get lucky

I forgot what its called but when it reduce the sync by 1

[old orchid]

you might need to quad queue to sync twice before Aaron's first sync

[hushed sorrel]

wait wait can I quad queue whats that?

o you are teaching me

I thought you are telling someone else

ok let me learn this

[keen jasper]

Quadqueue is all about timing

And if there are no interruptions

Like fields wearing off or if your unit counters

[old orchid]

in this case the only interruption is using Sunny Day too early

it will expire right before sync if you use it in the first 3 turns

[hushed sorrel]

the thing that is really annoying is how much health he gets back lol

its like 50% of my dmg

[keen jasper]

That's gradual healing for you

[old orchid]

what move level is your SS Red?

[keen jasper]

But you might lose your mind next week

[hushed sorrel]

5/5

[old orchid]

do you grid him for nuke?

[hushed sorrel]

haymaker

[keen jasper]

I'm guessing by your PFP, you did that out of favoritism

[old orchid]

and Solar Flare 5 as well?

[keen jasper]

Sorry, but what's your team with him?

[old orchid]

Hilbert and Blaine iirc

[hushed sorrel]

yea just copied this

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/1/600?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBhEUFxgZKCssLS4v

[keen jasper]

Hmmmm, ok

[hushed sorrel]

its not ex'ed though

I want to

[old orchid]

try using the pre sync ontype (more hp) param set in the pins and do quad queue

only focus on mid until it dies

[hushed sorrel]

yea Ill try

I was using immunity before, now Im going try proc confusion on Blaine

[old orchid]

make sure sun is up when SS Red syncs

Confusion is not worth resetting for

does Hilbert struggle to tank?

[hushed sorrel]

yea he does haha dies sometimes

[old orchid]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/2000/50300?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=17010201&g=AAECAwQFGhscHyIjJCYnKCo

use this grid then

[keen jasper]

Flameproof?

[hushed sorrel]

ok let me change it

[old orchid]

the lucky skill doesnt matter since i picked Vigilance on the grid

[hushed sorrel]

its already that grid haha

[old orchid]

if Aaron spams too many Megahorn then reset

just make sure Hilbert not die before the second sync

[hushed sorrel]

so if I use sun I cant quad right

[keen jasper]

Depends on when you use it

[hushed sorrel]

Dreamy says if sun is up it doesnt work

[old orchid]

if only you use sun too early

like first 3 turns

[keen jasper]

If you use it on your first turn, it will definitely go out before your sync, but if you use it on the second turn, it will last before your sync

[old orchid]

for Blaine first move just use another move

ideally you should use Sunny Day right before Red first sync

[hushed sorrel]

so something like
Zard - Destiny
Hilbert - crit
Blaine - firespin
Zard - Destiny
Hilbert - speed
Blaine - firespin
Zard - blast burn
Hilbert - crit
Blaine - Sunny?
Sync?

[old orchid]

seems good, but i would use Hilbert's TM -> TM

[hushed sorrel]

what does that mean hahah

like same tm?

so if I dumb down my understanding of quad que - if I do it right, I can squeeze 4th move after sync and by spamming the move button after the sync

[old orchid]

basically use Hilbert TM twice before Red's first Blast Burn

[old orchid]

after using sync, sneak a move right before the left side moves

[hushed sorrel]

lol finally

I learnt so much in this fight, gotta get every single order perfect because of endurance

[hushed sorrel]

ok need some tip for Flint now haha

[keen jasper]

You need a weather changer

[hushed sorrel]

its so dam bulky

Im running May Suicune Blastoise

[keen jasper]

Flint is weak to rock this week

[hushed sorrel]

I have Lycanroc Blastoise

Bertha third I guess

[keen jasper]

Show me your supports

[old orchid]

Olivia Bertha is already a good core

The third could be anyone

[keen jasper]

An attack support

[old orchid]

iirc you have Sonia right

[old orchid]

You can save Blastoise for another team

[hushed sorrel]

I haven't used blastoise yet

Sonia is not ex though

[old orchid]

Do you plan to use him in another team? Or do other teams need him?

Non EX Sonia is not a problem

[hushed sorrel]

well for Cynthia I was just going to use Ash Volkner and Rotom

[old orchid]

You can use Olivia first sync to deny on the left

[old orchid]

Cynthia hits hard under sand, so i recommend bring SS Morty there

Unless you used him

[hushed sorrel]

I used him haha for Lucian...

sigh

so Im pretty f**ed it sounds like 😂

[old orchid]

Or use Blastoise there

He is bulky enough for Ash to do his job

[hushed sorrel]

ok I was thinking rotom to get to sync faster

since it is ex

what if rotom blastoise ash

[old orchid]

Ash doesnt need sync cd

Blastoise has a way to fix ruining quad queue anyway

[hushed sorrel]

ok so I run Volkner Ash SS Blue

[old orchid]

Yeah

For Flint team run Sonia Olivia Bertha

Sync with Olivia first to deny the left side

[hushed sorrel]

should I full grid Lycanroc

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/5100/74501?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFDA0OHyIkKCsuLw

[old orchid]

Since Sonia ruins quad queue by geting hit

[hushed sorrel]

I only need to add 200 more orbs

eh what ever I did it haha

[old orchid]

She needs Inertia and Sand Blaster minumum

The grid is good

[hushed sorrel]

Im reading my team, I dont have any status cond or interference, so it should be ok to take those 2 and take off physical dmg reduction I guess

[old orchid]

You shouldnt turn on physical dmg reduc when you use physical dmg dealer

[hushed sorrel]

I mean I took it off

[hushed sorrel]

do you mean I should kill Torkoal first?

[old orchid]

Yes

Kill it before it has a chance to move, so that you can sync twice before the opponent first sync

Are you using pre sync or post sync set?

If post sync then you shouldnt care about turn denial

[hushed sorrel]

pre sync

that Torkoal is tough lol

[old orchid]

Does sand is up and Olivia has +3 crit +6 atk and at least +4 speed?

And does the sync crit as well?

[hushed sorrel]

my first 9

Olivia - X Att
Sonia - Ruff
Bertha - Def Buff + 1 crit
Olivia - hard as diamond
Sonia - Ruff
Bertha - Def Buff + 1 crit
Olivia - Stone edge
Sonia - tackle
Bertha - sand tomb
sync

[keen jasper]

Can you tell me what move level is your Bertha?

[old orchid]

Bertha move level doesnt matter

[old orchid]

How many times did Sonia get hit

[hushed sorrel]

ok I got another 5 level on Olivia at 135 Ill try again

Bertha is 4/5

[keen jasper]

Grid Bertha's TM MPR

[old orchid]

So that Olivia doesnt need to touch TM?

Then she has accuracy issue

[keen jasper]

Hmmmm

[old orchid]

I would rather fully grid Olivia

[hushed sorrel]

is that sufficient or?

[old orchid]

She just wants MPR

But its not needed here

The team is bulky enough to do post sync so you should consider switching to post sync

[hushed sorrel]

ok let me have a crack at that..

[keen jasper]

If your Aaron was 3/5, I would've said grid him for Precision Pals, oh well...

[hushed sorrel]

no luck with that yet

lols

so I did post sync - they felt so much bulkier

then I switched to pre-sync, they got 1 sync off

[old orchid]

Ofc they are

Woah

[hushed sorrel]

but they went down faster and it was actually better

[nocturne pawn]

wait how did they live

💀

[hushed sorrel]

it suns before the sync

I squeezed in sand

[nocturne pawn]

no i meant olivia

[hushed sorrel]

I dont know if that made a diff

[nocturne pawn]

because her defense even with +6 kinda stinks

[hushed sorrel]

beats me bro

hahaha

[mellow linden]

Sand definitely helped with survival, but the team surviving Sync using pre-Sync parameters is surprising

[old orchid]

Looking at your image again, you should pick reflect shield param aka +50 free points. Because crits ignore these shield

[hushed sorrel]

ok cynthia letsss go

Im choosing Volkner Ash SS Blue

Ex Blue Ex Ash

Im using Sync buff to be more powerful

[nocturne pawn]

yeah thats the thing when i do 2.5k presync and they sync i just get blown up

[nocturne pawn]

do infinite field effects

[old orchid]

Reset when Cynthia spams.too many EQ

[nocturne pawn]

since you’re running terrain

[old orchid]

Yeah Ash doesnt need sync buff that much

[nocturne pawn]

pretty sure ash can brute force the 50% spdef anyway

[hushed sorrel]

pre sync more hp then?

pre sync more damage..

[old orchid]

Dont add hp when you do pre sync

[nocturne pawn]

you dont want them to be bulky

[old orchid]

Lets try pre sync more dmg first

[sinful garden]

pre syncing is basically buffing their offenses so much that they die before they can actually do anything

[sand karma]

Steel weak Bertha doesn't come with sand?

[old orchid]

She doesnt

[keen jasper]

But she has HS1

[hushed sorrel]

something is not right ay my thunder does like 451 damage lol I dont have reduced special on

[keen jasper]

Standard Damage Reduction?

[mellow linden]

Either Standard Damage Reduction or not using Ash’s Trainer Move to max offenses

Could be Special Damage Reduction 8,l as well, actually

[hushed sorrel]

I guess Im not that newb to a point where Im not using his 1 MP buff 😂

[old orchid]

Seems like parameter issue

[hushed sorrel]

Lols no way I can last long enough

[mellow linden]

B Thunderbolt is a delete button

[keen jasper]

Hmmmm, my main concern is Ash not surviving Cynthia's sync because he's weak to ground

[mellow linden]

Oh, right, half-Sync

Forgot they slapped it on champion this week

[formal vigil]

Why not use cyrus/zinnia?

[keen jasper]

Because +50% Sp. Def. under sandstorm

[formal vigil]

Ash is special too plus you could just bring someone to replace weather

[civic trellis]

Why is ash doing 2k dmg on his sync? what params do u have

[old orchid]

Ash is not ontype

[keen jasper]

On-type, and you're doing off-type with Ash

[civic trellis]

But ur not ontyping

[hushed sorrel]

o farrrk

lols

[hushed sorrel]

only took like 4 hours

😂

thanks for the tip gents

[old orchid]

[weak sleet]

For round 1, with permanent field effects, is sun for fire better or is dark zone from the frogs better?

[hushed sorrel]

would it not be about who you are going against?

[weak sleet]

I mean neither will or Aaron set up field effects.

As far as I can tell

[hushed sorrel]

bertha

sand

[old orchid]

Either is good choice

[twin flare]

How do I beat flint?

[old orchid]

Change weather and use physical dmg dealer

Do you have Olivia?

[mellow linden]

What’s your Rock roster?

[weak sleet]

I was going to use Bertha and SS Diantha for that stage but Olivia should work too.

[twin flare]

Didn't work for shit

[old orchid]

I see Emmet

[twin flare]

Did 2k damage, with sand + 2k sync boost...

[mellow linden]

Olivia or Emmet should work fine. Roark too

[keen jasper]

And/Or Olivia

[mellow linden]

What parameters and team did you use?

[twin flare]

Olivia did 2k damage

[old orchid]

Flint has Wise Entry x2 so special dmg dealers dont do good dmg

[mellow linden]

Sounds like a parameter or teambuilding issue, assuming Olivia was gridded for Sand Blaster and Inertia

[nocturne pawn]

how is she doing 2k on rock weak

yeah definitely check your parameters again

[old orchid]

Parameter issue perhaps

[twin flare]

Acerola, Sycamore and olivia

[mellow linden]

There’s part of the problem

[twin flare]

?

[mellow linden]

Olivia wants an Attack + crit Support

[nocturne pawn]

do you have a 3/5 hilbert

[mellow linden]

Otherwise she takes too long to set up

[old orchid]

I would rather using a physical support

Like 3/5 Hilbert or Sonia

[twin flare]

Yes, apparently i do

[old orchid]

Actually their move level doesnt matter

Use him instead of Sycamore

[nocturne pawn]

use him then

[mellow linden]

Well, 3/5 means Olivia only has to use 1 Trainer Move

[nocturne pawn]

grid him for critical squad 2

[old orchid]

Do you have Bertha?

[hushed sorrel]

imo Bertha was solid

[old orchid]

Acerola is fine since she can flinch

[twin flare]

No Bertha

[hushed sorrel]

crit + sand + give back the def

o

[twin flare]

She's 1/5 tho

[old orchid]

Doesnt matter

She gets 60% flinch at 1/5

[nocturne pawn]

she has aggravation at 1/5

[old orchid]

And Sandstorm MPR also at 1/5

[twin flare]

[old orchid]

Her 1/5 grid is solid

[twin flare]

Wth

Ok, I'll try Hilbert and gridding acerola

[nocturne pawn]

bertha would be nice cuz it means immediate sun overwrite and +3 crit in 1 turn but beggars cant be choosers unfortunately

[hushed sorrel]

I actually really enjoyed that team you recommended Gakon. Bertha, Olivia, Sonia

[old orchid]

Its a solid team

[weak sleet]

Is SS Diantha immune to sandstorm?

[old orchid]

She has Sand Shelter on grid

[weak sleet]

At 1/5?

[nocturne pawn]

yea

[weak sleet]

Oh I didn't realize that

I'll have to fill up her grid

[mellow linden]

It’s worth noting that Sandstorm’s chip damage is basically irrelevant, so don’t worry too much about it

[weak sleet]

And when I have an ex ss Diantha, should I sync first with her or sync first with the ex support?

[nocturne pawn]

i think it can go either cuz even without her grid she nukes alright. usually i can get like 12-15k

[old orchid]

Sync with her first

[weak sleet]

Who is easiest for the fast sync during round 3?

[old orchid]

Round 3 is not fast sync

its sync buff getting 75% buff instead of usual 50% buff

[weak sleet]

Oh it's more effective syncs.

[old orchid]

Round 5 is half sync

[weak sleet]

So would the Victini and SS Morty be good? I usually always sync with Morty first.

[swift swan]

Very

[old orchid]

they are overkill together

[swift swan]

Just remember to focus on v create. Take down mid asap

Don't bother with searing shot, even if the gauge entices you. Ss morty is a really good gauge battery already

[keen jasper]

I'd just use R3 as for doing very funny numbers

[weak sleet]

Then I was doing grass for round 4 and rock for round 2.

Since celebi will be effective I think for round 4.

[swift swan]

I used round 3 to boost my Olivia since my stubborn ass wanted to do a monotype challenge with REGIROCK and TECH KABUTOPS

[old orchid]

smh

[swift swan]

I need more rock supports

[weak sleet]

Should I switch Sonia for someone else?

[nocturne pawn]

its fine

[old orchid]

Sonia is alright

[nocturne pawn]

sonia helps diantha set up faster

[old orchid]

u could use Hilbert or any clones of him if you need Sonia for another team

[weak sleet]

It's not working

[old orchid]

what happened

[weak sleet]

Well Sonia kept dying

But somehow rng blessed me and she survived after a few runs.

[old orchid]

are you using aggressive params? Sonia is one of the tankiest units in the game

[swift swan]

All i can say is: if flint opens with flare blitz, just cut your losses and reset

[weak sleet]

I use the standard 12.5k parameters

[swift swan]

She can tank flint even with aggressive params

The only move she'll struggle taking is flare blitz, which still hurts even without sun, but i think she should still live

[weak sleet]

Does lyra have a point for this round?

[old orchid]

Adaman doesnt need Lyra

[swift swan]

If anything, lyra will quickly crumble to bertha's physical moves

Not that it matters when the opponents are permaflinched though

[weak sleet]

Yeah and Adaman just killed everyone in 5 seconds

[hollow quarry]

Adaman needs no one

He can solo Bertha

[versed meteor]

Mina gaming as usual

[twin flare]

What is a good poison stall team against Bertha?

[toxic cobalt]

#1097597679015567420

[tired sleet]

It’d depend on what you have, but I’d recommend changing the weather

[hushed sorrel]

Hmm I can't seem to do flint on 2.5k again lol

Do you think Bertha Olivia Yamper should be able to beat it preSync?

[north crown]

team details?

[nocturne pawn]

it definitely should

[old orchid]

You can use EX support as easier approach

Wait i thought you beat him at 2.5k before?

[hushed sorrel]

I did it last night

But I can’t do it again hahaha

My team is
130 Bertha no grid 4/5
135 Olivia full grid 3/5
130 Sonia 2/5 just potion mpr

[north crown]

you should probably think of denying left side with olivia's first sync, and use sonia's tackles to wittle down mid's defenses

[hushed sorrel]

Torkoal doesn’t go down till like when I’m about hit second sync lol

Yea I’ve been paying more attention to the order of the moves so I’m squeezing as much debuff before stone edge I got close. Prob just need to get it like better and not get random flare blitzed

[old orchid]

You can use an EX support instead of Sonia

[muted wolf]

Hello, can i get some team recomendations for the Sinnoh elite four on Master mode
Please, i'm posting My roster

That is taking i'n account how many points could i make out off everyone, already beated Aaron with Ho-OH, Charizard and delphox, got 1650 points

Tryng Bertha with normal leafeon, zamacenta and swanna, but it's not working 😅

[old orchid]

thats not true, SS Erika doesnt need that much support then fail

[tired sleet]

Do you have a goal for how many points you want?

[old orchid]

i notice that you have only played for a month, doing for 4.3k points first is a good starting goal

[tired sleet]

Tbf she is only 1/5. Maybe it’d work better with a dual strike

[muted wolf]

Problem is as it is 1/5, when sunny day runs out, solar blade takes to loong, and i die

[old orchid]

SS Erika is a pair that wants dual strike

[muted wolf]

I think 3.9 or 4.2 would be fine

Currently with jus Aaron got 1.65

[muted wolf]

Can You recomend me a team? Like with sceptile?

[old orchid]

you can check the pins for example 850 param sets first

also no need to ping me

Swanna Sceptile and Leafeon is a good team

time your Sunny Day well so that Leafeon clears the stage before sun runs out

[tired sleet]

Also i noticed that you have a fairy gear on. Have you done the ice type gear event for some 3* gear?

[muted wolf]

So i don't need to use a sunny day rigth at the start to neutralize sand?

Yeah already did the event of ice gear

[tired sleet]

Using sunny day as the last action of turn 2 should be fine

[old orchid]

you shouldnt use SD at the first 3 turns

turn = a pokemon action for me

[tired sleet]

In that case (and if you’ve bought the gear) you should use your 3* gear in general

[muted wolf]

Oh ok, so on the pins i had, sp damage reductión, strength +1, sp damage reduction 8, strength + 2 and strength +6

How should i change them now?

So i Was aiming to 2.7 but i'll lower it, any recomendations?

[muted wolf]

Ok so i reached 2.45 K, thanks for the advise

Is anyone still here? 😅
Ideas on the 3 battles Left please

As You can SEE My Best rock type is Kukui Lycanrock, and i practicaly don't have a good dark type

[old orchid]

your best Rock type is Roark actually

but he needs full grid and 4* to be usable

[muted wolf]

Really? So how do i make roar not kill himself after literaly just ome attack?

Also i think i gonna try Kukui, Hippodown and zamacenta (cause My other atck booster is torchic)...

[old orchid]

he has grid now

thats why i said he needs full grid

Zamazenta tanking is a bad option since Flint only uses Fire moves

[muted wolf]

So any recomendations?

[old orchid]

Piers

[muted wolf]

Thanks managed to get 5.25 K in the end
For fire, i had to grid Kukui but barely managed to win

For Dark, Piers, Solgaleo & Alakazam
For Cynthia Raykuaza, Blastoise and Swampert

[north crown]

@muted wolf still need help?

[old orchid]

they already finished

[north crown]

ah nice

bruh 2/5 ssb ex, 3/5 sabrina, 3/5 ssmorty....
3 free clears

[trail smelt]

I still haven’t finalized my damn team for the ice weak stadium lol

[swift swan]

Me neither lol

[hushed sorrel]

when you guys clear Flint do you try kill the Houndoom before Arcanine?

because after Arcanine dies I get 1 shot by heat wave

[keen jasper]

Depends

Are you changing the weather?

[old orchid]

Olivia has spdef debuff on her after using TM

[hushed sorrel]

let me upload to show you

sec

Like honestly I've been doing it for hours

https://youtu.be/_BpR9NwW4kw

I beat it yesterday and I can't remember what param I'm doing

Currently it's on post sync on type

Ive tried killing Torkoal first as well

[swift swan]

I recommend presync more. Something about flint's bulky HP makes me feel uncomfortable with adding more bulk for postsync

[hushed sorrel]

Ive tried all of them

lol

[swift swan]

Sonia prevents quadqueue quite often with team swift reaction. So if you do presync and first sync goes to Olivia, target left for a turn denial

What round are you doing this on?

[hushed sorrel]

4th

[swift swan]

Ah

Do you have an EX support you can use by any chance? One that can still give meaningful buffs to Olivia (attack, speed)

basically i'm saying hilbert but if you have other options that'd be good

[keen jasper]

Just seeing the word Hilbert makes me sad

[swift swan]

Still no Hilbert for you?

[hushed sorrel]

Ive got Hilbert but used it for Fire with Zard

[swift swan]

Hmmm I see

[hushed sorrel]

screw it I've already completed 12.5k haha I was just retrying but now I know I got lucky

[keen jasper]

Yes

[swift swan]

What i did vs Flint way back when my Olivia wasn't EX'd was that I DPS'd the sides, sync with EX support, then kill mid on 2nd sync. But i used the sync buff more effective param (R3 this week) so it greatly helped

Glad it worked out for you either way

[keen jasper]

I don't mean to go off-topic, but why does hilbert hate me?

[dark osprey]

Been there. One of the first units I got in the game but got him to 3/5 only 2.5 years in

At least nowadays we have quite a few clones

[swift swan]

Been there. It took me 1.5 years to get Phoebe. Not as valuable as Hilbert's buffs but still, RNG is cruel

[dark osprey]

Honestly Phoebe used to be one of my go to physical supports back then. Once the other attack crit buffers came in, forgot about her

[grand trout]

Any entries x2 on the upcoming week?

[nocturne pawn]

aaron has sentry entry x2 bertha has wise entry x3 on sides

dont ask me why its like that idk either

[sinful garden]

atleast on bertha its only on sides 💀

[full mesa]

I'm pretty sure, the only reason why Marnie has 12 passives is because they couldn't fit more.

[nocturne pawn]

special steel is literally only raihan so it still makes like no sense

[tired sleet]

That’s the point

To make you use raihan instead of the other steel options

||Also strike Purrserker in shambles rn||

[mellow linden]

Sorry, my bad

Accidentally sent message when I meant to turn off ping

[tired sleet]

I just saw a notif of you saying “that’s”

[mellow linden]

As I was gonna say, Steel weak Glacia is the one that encourages Raihan, Steel weak Bertha weirdly discourages him (at least the sides do)

[mellow linden]

There was a glare and I couldn’t see my screen well enough

[radiant wigeon]

I cant beat Flint, any advice?

[keen jasper]

Show me your rock roster

[north crown]

also, hard mode or master mode?

[radiant wigeon]

Lv 1 hard

[north crown]

lmaooo k

[radiant wigeon]

I get oneshotted

[north crown]

wat's your type medal looking like?

[radiant wigeon]

What is type medal

[north crown]

ofc you need weather turn 1. I would suggest bertha cuz of her 3 guaranteed sandstorm procs

bruhh

wow there's no example screenshot..? goddamn

@radiant wigeon First of all, I'm assuming that the hall of fame button is locked for you right?

actually here's a better question for you @radiant wigeon:
Is this your first time attempting the Sinnoh Champion Stadium?

[radiant wigeon]

Yes

hall of fame is locked

[north crown]

first time?

[radiant wigeon]

ye

i beated all elite four

flint is the one missing

[north crown]

ok here's a quick rundown for what the type medal is and what it does/uunlocks:

Quote from bulbapedia: "The challenge can only be attempted on Hard difficulty or higher once for one region each week, until the full medal for that region is completed, in which players gain access to the Reset feature." The way you complete it is to use ALL 18 types in the mode.

It also unlocks Master Mode, which is a harder variant, but also gives out more rewards, including EX materials.

• Who did you use? I want to mark off all the types you used already.

[radiant wigeon]

I guess you mean this

[north crown]

oh so you do have access to that. menu, but not the medal page itself

that makes things a lot easier

[radiant wigeon]

It's "pieces"

[north crown]

and hey you've already tried to mark quite a few off

that's pretty good for a first timer

olivia bertha is a necessity for flint, especially with your roster