Can I go with both?
#Champion Stadium
weak sequoia
grand steppe
you could, but i thought you wanted more medals?
grand steppe
well if using both, you neeed a phys support for atk and crit preferrably
weak sequoia
Who's a good f2p one?
noble plaza
Hop and Zamazenta boost attack and crit
grand steppe
shauna, aaron, sonia, hilbert, hop, maylene
weak sequoia
Ok ty
grand steppe
cobalion, lt surge, falkner/kiawe, giovanni/bugsy
or you could use an attack buffer and setup with dire hit / tm on them
nocturne pawn
wait cobalion buffs atk?
grand steppe
nope i lied
nocturne pawn
yeah i dont remember it having atk
grand steppe
I've never used it so 
noble plaza
can the poryphone bot search sync pairs that boost multiple stats?
grand steppe
it can
grand steppe
you have to /search stat_up Attack target: all allies
hit enter, then do another /search
and specify more conditions
but that may be too large of a query
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noble plaza
i was trying to look for ones that boost both attack and special defense or crit.
long thicket
Alright yeah, Lisia went great.
It seems her move gets weaker each use, though.
noble plaza
I think finding someone who does all of that is too tall an order but Nessa can buff herself
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nocturne pawn
Alright yeah, Lisia went great.
It seems her move gets weaker each use, though.
rapidash?
long thicket
Yeah, that went really well with Lillie and Sygna Wally.
Didn't sync with her.
nocturne pawn
not really sure how her damage was lowering
grand steppe
she gets 0-3 
on the first attack
nocturne pawn
oh right
grand steppe
so the subsequent ones would seem weaker, but not due to their strength
nocturne pawn
rng pmun on tm
keen jasper
Yeah, it's randomized how many PMUN stacks she gains on her TM
grand steppe
also after sync she gets Super Sync 9, for a strong follow-up attack, for on-type
nocturne pawn
well they said they didnt sync with her
grand steppe
well there are damage rolls so that's always a 10% variance
noble plaza
these are my pairs. I might use SS Blue but Im worried it'll be a bad idea to use him too early on
grand steppe
Nyla, I suggest using the sort feature, by role.
It also helps to seperate limiteds from the rest of the group.
i typically use something like https://www.quickpicturetools.com/en/combine_images/ to merge the imaegs together
zealous karma
What stage are you on ? You could consider off typing with a grass unit alongside Adaman Nyla
noble plaza
Oh I'm on R1
noble plaza
Nyla, I suggest using the sort feature, by role.
It also helps to seperate limi...
oh thank you for the tip!
zealous karma
O I see
noble plaza
I'm facing Flint and I have Nessa and May but I don't know who to put for that last slot
....i just noticed you said to bring a support rather than May.
oops
nocturne pawn
id personally just use winona instead of may
noble plaza
fair
weak sequoia
I did it finally. I beat Lucian and got two types for the medal. 
I swapped lusimine for SS Lana though so I could get the side Pokemon taken out faster
noble plaza
...okay so flint's sync wiped my entire team immediately
rotund lagoon
I swapped lusimine for SS Lana though so I could get the side Pokemon taken out ...
Was Psychic not used on the medal yet by chance?
north crown
I would guess offtype dps carry
noble plaza
I tried with winona, Nessa, and SS Blue and it didnt go well
i thought flint was supposed to be weaker in weather?
north crown
how...? isn't Nessa's nuke really good?
noble plaza
it's r1
formal vigil
fire moves don't get weakned by rain
noble plaza
do you mean rain?
formal vigil
yes lol
north crown
ah.. then maybe you should use another water nukeer, preferably one that can set up quick
noble plaza
i thought i read that flint is worse under weather
rotund lagoon
Rain makes water moves stronger, but not fire moves weaker
noble plaza
that might've been Aaron though come to think of it
noble plaza
yeah thats what i meant
rotund lagoon
Oh, um…well, guess there’s next week if you finished it.
weak sequoia
The fact that cythina was the easiest. Lmao
SS Lana just does an insane amount of damage.
noble plaza
should I just go Cyrus for R1 Flint?
north crown
yeah unless you don't have any other good dragon options
noble plaza
do you mean water?
north crown
there's zinnia, but I've witnessed some players struggling to use her
dragon and water
rotund lagoon
Dragon is not a type this week, you can use Cyrus
north crown
wait really? I must be tripping today
noble plaza
north crown
why not both then?
support, water nuker, cyrus
north crown
why not? it's half sync, so gauge shouldn't be that much of a problem
noble plaza
alright. fair.
north crown
also half sync param encourages burst teams so
noble plaza
wait, so can I presync this or should I just keep it to post sync?
north crown
I want to believe that with a decent nuker + cyrus should be able to presync, tho idk
I remember getting away with letting the opponent sync + tm on a few runs
maybe you'll experience the same kind of scenario
you could also try using supp ex + 2 op water dps
rotund lagoon
You can try pre sync first I guess
Then try post if it doesn’t work
north crown
e.g: spatk ex supp, archie, cyrus
noble plaza
Should I add rain as well or go with a normal support?
noble plaza
i do not have ss kris 😔
rotund lagoon
Rain setter is good for sure.
I’m not sure why Archie and Cyrus should be on the same team tho, I worry about gauge.
So you can do a Sp Atk Support, Winona/May then Cyrus.
noble plaza
oh i dont have archie anyway
rotund lagoon
Then my suggestion XP
weak sequoia
I don't have any mf aside from SSR cythina and NC bede
north crown
if cbede is exed, he might work for the may+cyrus duo
tired sleet
Idt he’ll even need ex 
north crown
I mean, if you want to go for the supp ex route so both dps units get the buff, then a support like CBede would be ideal
otherwise I think may should work if the support can afford to buff her
noble plaza
wait should I not bother using Cyrus' TM
north crown
depends on if the support can buff both spatk and speed
spatk is spatk, and speed is for ramming speed on HP
noble plaza
im sorry im getting a bit mixed up on the strat here
are we doing both Cyrus and Nessa?
Or just Cyrus?
north crown
cyrus + nuker with easier setup
noble plaza
ok fair
north crown
Nessa's nuke is infamous for taking a long time to set up due to the numerous debuff multipliers
noble plaza
yeahhh
I don't have a lot of nukers. I have SS Lysandre but I don't remember if he's exactly fast to set up
north crown
I actually don't remember what SSLysan does
mellow linden
If you have SS Lysandre it’s probably best to ignore Cyrus entirely in this instance and do something like SS Lysandre + May + Sp. Atk. Support (or if it’s Hard Mode SS Lysandre + appropriate Support + filler slot for type medal)
rotund lagoon
I didn’t realize you had SS Lysandre??? Yeah ditch Cyrus
north crown
or go full on macho and go winona, ssl, cyrus
or rosa, ssl, winona
also don't know whether to use b move before or after sync
noble plaza
yeah im on master mode
north crown
I'm assuming ssl is 1/5 yeah?
noble plaza
yeahhh
grand steppe
the water stage has discourage 2 and satsified snarl, but B hydro pump will probably still make quick work of that stage
noble plaza
post-sync right?
it's just that when i tried post sync on this stage the sync immediately wiped me out
grand steppe
you should just use a support ex, and then fire off B hydro pump
north crown
the water stage has discourage 2 and satsified snarl, but B hydro pump will prob...
rosa. also free ex buff, which would greatly help ssl's dps, especially his b move.
rosa, ssl, winona/may
I would advise using winona cuz flinch, and flinch = more moves
nocturne pawn
dude why is elesa only getting 6k on her first sync vs lucian this is so demoralizing
north crown
no just spatk buff + free supp ex
noble plaza
gotcha
north crown
I didn't even think of stalwart lmao
noble plaza
the water stage has discourage 2 and satsified snarl, but B hydro pump will prob...
oh my god you were not exaggerating
Lysandre dealt with them like it was nothing
thank you!
i totally forgot one of lysandre's passives gave it +4 SpA
north crown
then why the fuck did you pull him...?
noble plaza
huh?
north crown
It's as if you don't care about the pair, or at least his kit
grand steppe
dude why is elesa only getting 6k on her first sync vs lucian this is so demoral...
Regular Elesa? In Terrain with paralysis should be higher. What str level
nocturne pawn
wait she has a paralysis modifier?
noble plaza
...I used him a good amount after pulling him. I remember him being really good. I just happened to forget his passive after not using him for a while.
nocturne pawn
oh for dps
grand steppe
wait she has a paralysis modifier?
Oh nevermind, that's for regular moves only.
nocturne pawn
yeah she had inertia and brawn sync with eterrain
grand steppe
she has Inerta and Brawn sync
north crown
I would assume people would always prioritize using their limited gacha options for obvious reasons
nocturne pawn
i guess i need to drop strength 3
grand steppe
strength 3 and 6? ouch
nocturne pawn
noble plaza
...I'm sorry I didn't do that
nocturne pawn
is this better
grand steppe
I would assume people would always prioritize using their limited gacha options ...
haven't used chop since he came out :3
nocturne pawn
i forgot endurance doesnt work with half hp param
noble plaza
I assumed I couldn't just slap a limtied on a team and call it a day
nocturne pawn
so i had to rework it a bit
nocturne pawn
I assumed I couldn't just slap a limtied on a team and call it a day
thats what most people do for cs
because they’re so absurdly powerful now
noble plaza
Also Cyrus is much more invested than my Lysandre was
tired sleet
haven't used chop since he came out :3
I get bored of my limited units all the time
Then I feel guilty using them cause they’re busted
north crown
Also Cyrus is much more invested than my Lysandre was
4 gauge + b move:
nocturne pawn
so do those work
noble plaza
thats what most people do for cs
...fair enough. I kind of forget that I have limited pairs because I'm so used to not having a lot of the good ones
grand steppe
is this better
whats the team
nocturne pawn
whats the team
ss hau elesa hilbert
noble plaza
Alright, I'm sorry that I was rusty on how Lysandre worked after not using him for a while
mellow linden
Sometimes people do a goof and forget they have a great Sync Pair for a stage. It happens, no big deal
nocturne pawn
does that buff fast enough to get dps off or double support
mellow linden
I’m sure everyone has done the same once or twice at least
grand steppe
ss hau elesa hilbert
if this is with hilbert ex, how are you keeping up eTerrain
nocturne pawn
if this is with hilbert ex, how are you keeping up eTerrain
shit thats a good question
hes 1/5 so no power plant either
urgh
formal vigil
volkner?
north crown
I assumed I couldn't just slap a limtied on a team and call it a day
sometimes, tho most of the times people do that, they pull on unga bunga op dps units
to quote TaiyoMega: "because they're so absurdly powerful now - so [those do] work"
grand steppe
you should use volkner to stagger and provide paralysis synergy, and importantly the terrain when you sync
nocturne pawn
strength 7 shouldnt be that much more hp right
idk how it necessarily calculates so im just asking you
north crown
I seriously wonder why people tend to veer away from terrain units
nocturne pawn
I seriously wonder why people tend to veer away from terrain units
because i thought he kinda stank
cuz i tried dpsing with him
clearly didnt work
north crown
bro he's a tech unit
nocturne pawn
why does he have wild charge
nocturne pawn
bro he's a tech unit
*an early tech unit
but again i was unfamiliar with the game
then
bianca also can dps if you want her to
stored power is pretty funny + impervious
noble plaza
Should I put Aaron on the Lucian team with the Subway Bros or should I save him for someone else?
north crown
just in case, I would personally save him
grand steppe
I need Alert 10 so my field setters stop needing a 2nd terrain setter 
noble plaza
~~seeing all these people struggling with Lucian makes me feel almost guilty for having SC Submas ~~
north crown
sonia works, I tried
nocturne pawn
I need Alert 10 so my field setters stop needing a 2nd terrain setter <:Hopium:8...
so true
noble plaza
oh thats a good idea
nocturne pawn
~~seeing all these people struggling with Lucian makes me feel almost guilty for...
you should
north crown
I mean, the stage was built for them, so I wouldn't worry about pitying others, especially if there are f2p solutions available
nocturne pawn
ok sages what about
ss erika mallow bulu double strike
but no -3 strat
does that sound dumb
ig mallow cant max her attack which is kinda eh
north crown
I mean, sserika can alr carry herself, so I wouldn't worry about bring the filler that is Mallow
tired sleet
*an early tech unit
He was after 1st anni; not super surprising tbh
grand steppe
ok sages what about
I’ll be afk 
north crown
heheheha
tired sleet
ig mallow cant max her attack which is kinda eh
Bulu has b swords dance if you want it
It won’t be able to use Sunny Day early (which is unfortunate if you have Brawn Gain) but it’s not needed
noble plaza
does the B in moves like B Swords Dance and B Hydro Pump mean anything?
nocturne pawn
buddy move
noble plaza
Ohhh yeah
nocturne pawn
i think i have to deny the left
on lucian
focus blast and thunder do way too much damage
north crown
yes but no. Hail pairs are recommended due to Bertha's sand passives
noble plaza
oh of course
north crown
this is a good time to try out Candice's nuke
noble plaza
I mean with my current grid she didn't do a lot of damage against her
then again I think hail ran out at that point?
north crown
oh hail is one of her bigger multipliers
I would advise you use hail turn 2 and before second sync
as for supports, cred would be ideal, though you can get away with any other generic crit support
noble plaza
Cred?
noble plaza
oh I don't have that one
I was thinking Lodge Blue for flinch and defense+crit support but he may be a bit hard on the guage
north crown
yeahhh
Aaron may work for Candice if you want to splurge for your first time using candice
zealous karma
classic red
It’s just red there’s no classic red in the game yet
noble plaza
Aaron may work for Candice if you want to splurge for your first time using cand...
Oh I already invested in Candice for Dawn's battle
zealous karma
Candice def works for this stage migjt be worth waiting for R3 for it
noble plaza
I'm on R3
north crown
oh, so all you need to do is to build the general cs grid and temabuild
I'd suggest either extra dps or def debuffs for the third, as Candice is self sufficient apart from crit
noble plaza
i had Ghetsis on my team
zealous karma
How’s the gauge assuming you’re using Bpcandice and Ghetsus?
noble plaza
yeahh that's the thing
pretty hard on guage
not to mention I used Lodge Blue and his flinch move is 2 bars
so i could definitely do better
zealous karma
Hmm you could replace Ghetsus with lucian and sync with candice
If you haven’t used lucian already ofc
noble plaza
no I haven't actually
zealous karma
Swagger sounds good
noble plaza
swagger?
zealous karma
Candice Lucian a support than can support candice
noble plaza
Ohhhh I thought you meant the move
zealous karma
No one has it yet except for tornados iorc
noble plaza
Could Kiawe work? Or should I save him for Cynthia or Aaron?
I pulled him last night and was able to get him to 3/5 which is exciting!
zealous karma
Could Kiawe work? Or should I save him for Cynthia or Aaron?
Kiawe is great but I’m not sure if he’s best used here
I’m thinking Sabrina but I’m not sure how she’ll tank this stage
noble plaza
Oh of course
zealous karma
While she does get benefits such as growl + reflect I’m iffy
Cause mines 150 ex and has sentry entry 2 so what I am playing will be very diff from you
noble plaza
ah, mine doesn't have any lucky skills and isn't ex'd. she is 3/5 though
zealous karma
Oo that’s good
noble plaza
I have EX'd Lillie and her TM is similar to Sabrina's
zealous karma
That’s true
Also Ex is great for attempting candice but her setup will ne a little long
So a grid like this would be helpful
noble plaza
with ex'd lillie? or in general?
zealous karma
In general ye
noble plaza
oh that looks great!
Although Lillie's TM only gives critical hit next, it doesn't buff critical hit rate
Candice can do it herself but it'll take a bit to set up
zealous karma
Correct ye that was a concern I had
noble plaza
Sabrina didn't take a High Horsepower well but sandstorm was still up because i was saving hail for t2
zealous karma
I see
You can actually try to use hail on turn one
So like
Dire hit all -> Growl -> hail
Growl -> reflect > candice TM for example
noble plaza
oo ok
zealous karma
You have crit squad on Sabrina right?
noble plaza
I believe so? lemme double check
oof i did not nevermind i didn't read the full name
zealous karma
Here’s th e hrid I was thinking of
north crown
why are you using bpcandice? just use candice
zealous karma
Cause BpCandice can kill sides and use sync in center
north crown
wait she has a viable sync nuke?
lemme check in #bot-zone
BPCandice: Double Down 3, Bob and Weave, Heavy Hail, 4 Sync Tiles.
Candice: Innate Hail Multi., Heavy Hail 2, Super Preparation 4 (50%), Inertia
wary obsidian
Does Lucian has a gimmick or he's just really tanky
frozen depotBOT
wary obsidian
Ty
plush tangle
wary obsidian
I'm just shocked that I cant kill him with the pikachus
north crown
pikachus? can't SSTRed beat it then? His cracked nuke is physical.
nocturne pawn
yeah sst red should clap it
wary obsidian
I just did it but it took 3 sync cycle ... I must be doing something wrong lol
old orchid
probably accidentally picked physical damage reduction param
north crown
also sync grid
wary obsidian
Maybe grid. I just follow the recommended param
north crown
if it's the sync nuke one, then it's the right one
old orchid
adjust the recommended param to fit in your team, dont just copy them
noble plaza
Candice: Innate Hail Multi., Heavy Hail 2, Super Preparation 4 (50%), Inertia
so should i use normal candice or bp?
full mesa
noble plaza
ah
desert berry
Hello i need help again with this week’s CS 
I tried doing it myself but can’t seem to find the right pairs and ends up killing my whole team
toxic cobalt
Hi Virt, what teams were you thinking of?
desert berry
Hi Virt, what teams were you thinking of?
Can’t find a proper Ground striker for dmg
And similar to the rest too
sinful garden
Can’t find a proper Ground striker for dmg
yeah ground lacks f2p options
toxic cobalt
The real difficult is round 1, the others are easier
toxic cobalt
Personally I just poisoned ground round 1 to get it out of the way
toxic cobalt
BP Erika Janine and Leaf will work
sinful garden
@desert berry id say try using leon as a ground striker like aurochs said before doing poison stall
might be faster
desert berry
Also I’m still at Hard challenge so…
toxic cobalt
might be faster
Might be, might not be
sinful garden
its hard mode max move should destroy after support sync
desert berry
Who to pair Leon with?
toxic cobalt
Can you show your support Ex?
noble plaza
why are you using bpcandice? just use candice
Should I stick with Lucian and Sabrina as supports?
desert berry
noble plaza
Oh wait...this is round 3. Would regular Candice really be the better option?
toxic cobalt
Hmm. I think for Leon use Sonia or Hop
desert berry
Hmm. I think for Leon use Sonia or Hop
Okay! 
toxic cobalt
hmm
SOnia gridded for crit?
Oh right this is hard mode so you have to deal with acute senses!
desert berry
toxic cobalt
Blaine time
desert berry
toxic cobalt
How is Aaron Koing your team?
toxic cobalt
toxic cobalt
toxic cobalt
Crit squad
toxic cobalt
toxic cobalt
18/18! 
keen jasper
Now it's time for your pain ||that we'll enjoy 
||
desert berry
Now it's time for your pain ||that we'll enjoy <:TabithaHehe:998042781375275158>...
Noooo 
i don’t think I’m even gonna attempt doing MM
noble plaza
Oh wait...this is round 3. Would regular Candice really be the better option?
Fwiw this is R3 vs Bertha
paper summit
~~i don’t think I’m even gonna attempt doing MM~~
well, you should, the main rewards for EX don't imply an increase in difficulty given the parameters we have available
no one is telling you to go for full points
toxic cobalt
Go for full points!
paper summit
desert berry
desert berry
well, you should, the main rewards for EX don't imply an increase in difficulty ...
Oh okay! I might still need help on which parameters I should be using by next week. Thanks for the info!
paper summit
you can attempt MM this week, but yeah, come check here and we can pinpoint which should be picked so things barely change, then as you get used to things and learn more you can attempt more
keen jasper
You roster looks strong enough to do 12.5k pts.
swift swan
We have parameter recommendations on pins. Test around and see which suits your playstyle
Remember they're just templates and you should modify them depending on your needs
tired sleet
You can also type “+csmm” in #bot-zone
nocturne pawn
how'd it go :3
i didnt do it yet
nocturne pawn
finally did it
evelyn actually huge stonks
did -3 post sync and it was actually fairly easy
turns out +4 spdef against a mostly special stage helps a lot with not dying
noble plaza
I'm versing Aaron right now. Am I unable to quadqueue if I use Bertha? Unless I skip trapping the first turn?
i've attempted the round a few times but i cant quadqueue because of the passives
grand trout
Well bertha sets weather does she not
toxic cobalt
Trapping won't skip quadqueue, it'll be something else
grand trout
Iirc weather prevents quadqueue
nocturne pawn
bertha sets weather on entry so unless you refresh it during it then it will stop quad queue
noble plaza
But trapping triggers her Pokey Trap passive, and you can't quadqueue if there was a passive triggered right before
nocturne pawn
But trapping triggers her Pokey Trap passive, and you can't quadqueue if there w...
thats a damage modifier
toxic cobalt
Yes, you have to refresh sandstorm on the 3rd turn
nocturne pawn
whats stopping quad queue is sandstorm running out on the third turn
noble plaza
Yes, you have to refresh sandstorm on the 3rd turn
Oh really? okay
thanks for letting me know!
nocturne pawn
Yes, you have to refresh sandstorm on the 3rd turn
and you have to do what aurochs said
keen jasper
bertha sets weather on entry so unless you refresh it during it then it will sto...
Or if the move animation is long enough then it will wear off before you sync
old orchid
But trapping triggers her Pokey Trap passive, and you can't quadqueue if there w...
if opponents attack you and at least an passive of the tank procs, that passive will ruin quad queue
keen jasper
if opponents attack you and at least an passive of the tank procs, that passive ...
By at least a passive of the tank procs, you mean they counter? (Ignore this Gakon)
nocturne pawn
tldr on hit passives stop quad queue
field effects on entry/first turn without extension also stop quad queue
ok why does cynthia hit so hard this week
keen jasper
field effects on entry/first turn without extension also stop quad queue
It can but it depends on how long is the animation of the moves are
keen jasper
ok why does cynthia hit so hard this week
Because when she dodges, she gains +1 Sp. Atk. per dodged move
nocturne pawn
she did 570 with no buffs
toxic cobalt
Just use Mina 
keen jasper
You can
nocturne pawn
With +6 Sp. Def.?
0 buffs on my side though
im not sure what to use with mina though
keen jasper
A physical supporter
keen jasper
so third slot is fairy zone ig?
Sure
nocturne pawn
so like this?
keen jasper
Your Mina is only 3*
nocturne pawn
Your Mina is only 3*
i dont have enough p ups
toxic cobalt
Upgrading Mina is a skill issue
nocturne pawn
💀
keen jasper
Prolly converted all their 3* PUs for 4* PU
zealous karma
Stamina stacking 
zealous karma
Nice
noble plaza
...this week has really reminded me that i should take the time to upgrade my 3 star pairs to 4 stars
zealous karma
It’s def worth it they’re all great
Especially when you’re newer to the game (1+ months of playing$
I still use some to this day
noble plaza
Skyla is my favorite 3 star
noble plaza
It’s def worth it they’re all great
Doing the legendary gauntlet made me feel like I should start investing in more of my F2P pairs lmao, even the ones i never use
zealous karma
Ye all pairs matyer there
toxic cobalt
Roxanne remains irreplacable
zealous karma
My favorite 3-4*’s are prolly hmm Bugsy Roxanne Noland or pretty much any I’ve 5 starred lel
noble plaza
I've actually never touched Bugsy haha
noble plaza
oh really?
zealous karma
Noland is a furry cutter spammer and bugsy can do big nukes
nocturne pawn
x scissor loses after like 2 fury cutters doesnt it
zealous karma
zealous karma
Kinda paranoid that it'll miss and reset its stacks
It doesn’t miss if you take the accuracy tile
Wait I just realized in reality that’s pretty much 30K damage lel
zealous karma
x scissor loses after like 2 fury cutters doesnt it
I think fury cutter just continues to stack idk how large it caps but it’s damage is def much higher than X scissors by a lot
pure haven
I was wondering if I should EX Olivia for next week's csmm, for some reason I'm not confident on her dealing enough damage
zealous karma
Just wait hntil@it happens but she’ll be fine
I cleared rock week with 2/5 non Ex Olivia in the past
nocturne pawn
shes not a tech so ex wont help besides clearing sides
unless 40 attack really does that much more for damage calcs
pure haven
Just wait hntil@it happens but she’ll be fine
hntil@it 
zealous karma
shes not a tech so ex wont help besides clearing sides
I think that’s what they’re worried about
pure haven
Kk, gonna wait then
pure haven
Got it
mellow linden
Yeah, Olivia’s basic move plan is click Trainer Move once -> click Stone Edge and Sync as needed
zealous karma
And have an atyack buffer
mellow linden
Yeah
zealous karma
Wait a moment
mellow linden
Well, Attack + crit buffer unless you can get +1 crit from elsewhere
zealous karma
Is this the sentry entry x2 rock week or the wise entry x2 one?
mellow linden
Wise Entry
zealous karma
O
mellow linden
Sentry Entry x2 is Rock weak Malva in Kalos CS
zealous karma
Sentry Entry x2 is Rock weak Malva in Kalos CS
Oh I thought it was drake
pure haven
Yeah, Olivia’s basic move plan is click Trainer Move once -> click Stone Edge an...
Will it be necessary if I have Aaron?
zealous karma
If Aaron’s 3/5 no
noble plaza
Noland is a furry cutter spammer and bugsy can do big nukes
furry cutter
keen jasper
Bleh, syncing with Noland ruins his stacks on Fury Cutter
mellow linden
Olivia’s Trainer Move is less about the crit and more about the accuracy
pure haven
If Aaron’s 3/5 no
Crap
zealous karma
Bleh, syncing with Noland ruins his stacks on Fury Cutter
That’s why I use bugsy for sync lel
pure haven
I really need 1 more Aaron asap
mellow linden
So if Aaron is 3/5 and gridded for Precision Pals then Olivia can go straight to Stone Edge
pure haven
And 2 Sonia
mellow linden
But 1 Trainer Move use doesn’t really matter too much
pure haven
Come home please 
noble plaza
good luck soldier
keen jasper
Bug gear event when?
noble plaza
I tried using EX Aaron + Regular Mina + EX Lillie for Cynthia but Mina doesn't hurt the Spiritomb that much
And special damage param is on
pure haven
I tried using EX Aaron + Regular Mina + EX Lillie for Cynthia but Mina doesn't h...
Try Nanu instead of lillie
For Screech spam
noble plaza
Ohhh Screech, of course
pure haven
If you have kukui even better
noble plaza
I always forget about Nanu's Screech
pure haven
That's how I did it
zealous karma
If you have masked Royal I prefer him more
zealous karma
Helps Mina’s overall setup and his Atk and def debuffs are in aoe with brutal swing
pure haven
If you have masked Royal I prefer him more
Mr didn't work that well for me
zealous karma
How come?
pure haven
Nanu's defense drop x2 were better in my case
zealous karma
You can always give Madked Royal def crush LS
noble plaza
Ohhh that's what y'all meant by "Mr". I kept reading it as mister 
pure haven
That's with deluxe right?
toxic cobalt
No, defence crush is boring cookies
zealous karma
No with pink silver
pure haven
I tried using EX Aaron + Regular Mina + EX Lillie for Cynthia but Mina doesn't h...
Still, going back to this, try Kukui for leer spam
It help more than Nanu's screech
For gauge purpose
noble plaza
gotcha
pure haven
If it doesn't work try MR
zealous karma
If you have Mr I’d use him due to his gauge being good with the quickest Spd buffs in the game
keen jasper
I think the point of Fury Cutter on Noland is for early game DPS and X Scissor is his post sync DPS
pure haven
Guess I should read more about what the other cookies have to offer
I always thought only golden and deluxe mattered
And the guaranteed
zealous karma
If I’m going for fury cutter Noland I don’t even brother syncing with him
keen jasper
Yeah
zealous karma
pure haven
If I’m going for fury cutter Noland I don’t even brother syncing with him
Wouldn't mega help him with damage?
zealous karma
It resets fury cutters damage back to one
keen jasper
Fury Cutter stacks reset when Noland syncs
pure haven
That sucks
zealous karma
And ex support does more anyways
nocturne pawn
his nuke is a lot weaker than bugsy isnt it
keen jasper
Yeah, so when you're using Noland as both DPS and nuker, he wants X Scissor DPS post sync
zealous karma
his nuke is a lot weaker than bugsy isnt it
They’re prolly the same but bugsy has access to seun
nocturne pawn
he does?
formal vigil
super victory
nocturne pawn
eh thats when he kos
pure haven
Super victory?
keen jasper
Super Victory: Grants Super Effective Up Next effect when the user defeats a pokemon
keen jasper
But why is Noland's sync BP 192?
formal vigil
mega
keen jasper
Isn't that sync BP only for tech megas?
nocturne pawn
5/5?
keen jasper
Like isn't the striker's BP usually 300 at 5/5?
nocturne pawn
Like isn't the striker's BP usually 300 at 5/5?
hes a mega
all megas have a bp reduction
keen jasper
300 - 20% (or * 0.8)= 240
nocturne pawn
cuz their stats are buffed
nocturne pawn
300 - 20% (or * 0.8)= 240
thats just a regular tech sync
keen jasper
thats just a regular tech sync
nocturne pawn
all megas are 160 iirc at base
compact yoke
Which link brings me to team comp ideas. I tried both but they took me to parameters
All I need is to beat Lucian, dudes being annoying
keen jasper
All I need is to beat Lucian, dudes being annoying
Show us your bug damage dealers
compact yoke
Aight
zealous karma
eh thats when he kos
I like side denial
keen jasper
That's EX
compact yoke
I tried off typing cuz I was having trouble
keen jasper
Hmmmm ok
compact yoke
nocturne pawn
and im pretty sure all non mega tech sync besides gladion are 200 at base
zealous karma
Prior to Ex 5/5 ye a tech sync is 240 but megas have nerfed sync Bps
zealous karma
and im pretty sure all non mega tech sync besides gladion are 200 at base
Normal syncs without innates have increased Bp due to never being on type
How did I post that video here
formal vigil
Isn't that sync BP only for tech megas?
no they both have the same base bp assuming no ex
toxic cobalt
Bugsy MAX 
nocturne pawn
sobs i did it
keen jasper
Now get ready for more pain next week
nocturne pawn
no next week looks fine really
my types for all of those are pretty covered
does flying weak lucian have an x2 entry
nocturne pawn
i know but im looking ahead
next week should be fine
this week was definitely probably the hardest in the game
flint and bertha were ok but lucian is just all my bad karma rolled into a fight
swift swan
so blue might not work
I made him work for 2k. Had to postsync though
nocturne pawn
yeah ill just use darach
toxic cobalt
Kahili is a super easy mid claer, if you have a way to handle sides
Suppose if you can pull of a left denial into mid second nuke she does even better
nocturne pawn
well wouldnt darach be easier cuz he has actual dps
old orchid
Can confirm Darach nukes hard without zone on Alola CS with max hp 10
nocturne pawn
also does weigh down work with ripple effect
old orchid
Yes
nocturne pawn
cool
mellow linden
Darach, to an extent, has to choose between nuke and regular move damage
toxic cobalt
Which Kahili solves by having no regular move damage
nocturne pawn
is standfast 7 not enough mitigation
mellow linden
It’s not like one will be terrible in exchange for the other being great, but it’s something to keep in mind
nocturne pawn
maybe i could do something with nate darach dual strike?
mellow linden
It’s moreso that 1) his nuke takes time to setup without external debuff sources, and 2) iirc his damage modifiers are a bit spread out
mellow linden
He’ll probably be alright on his own, it’s just something to keep in mind
swift swan
Hahah, nate
old orchid
swift swan
I'm glad someone has faith in him but
old orchid
Nate dps is worse than Darach lol
nocturne pawn
i mean his sync should clear sides right
old orchid
Just sync with Darach
swift swan
EX Nate haver
old orchid
I suggest Zinnia over Nate
swift swan
I'd rather focus on mid though. Sides shouldn't be a huge problem
swift swan
Which is where tech nukes like Darach have more advantage
swift swan
I'm trying to look for evasion debuffers on poryphone but it's still loading lol
nocturne pawn
i did too
nocturne pawn
I'm trying to look for evasion debuffers on poryphone but it's still loading lol
ok i guess the bot is allergic to searching for evasion debuffers
cuz it works fine for other stuff
swift swan
Maybe it's just the search function overall
keen jasper
I'm trying to look for evasion debuffers on poryphone but it's still loading lol
Lodge Elesa has Hem In
nocturne pawn
Lodge Elesa has Hem In
isnt that rng though
old orchid
The best evasion debuffer is SC Rosa if anyone is wondering
keen jasper
Yeah, -2 evasion to all enemies
nocturne pawn
ok maybe search is broken
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grand steppe
where do i send bug reports for poryphone
Oh it's not a bug, see the message, there are too many results.
You need to do a multi-search.
grand steppe
After you've sent that query, you need to a 2nd query to reduce the results.
nocturne pawn
it saying its thinking for like 10 mins isnt
grand steppe
well I mean the message above mine, the one you were asking about
grand steppe
@tribal agate 
tribal agate
i know, you can't use stat_down atm sorry
nocturne pawn
wah
grand steppe
can you stop these two queries ^
tribal agate
np those will just timeout by themselves
tribal agate
i'll udpate when it's fixed, should be just stat_down concerned
nocturne pawn
totally didnt spend an hour fixing a printer yesterday that literally just needed to be turned off and on again
grand steppe
going back to this message, after the bot says that you can specify more parameters by inputting another /search in discord
tribal agate
ok so now it's in debugging 
just give it a few
it's a very complex algorithm and devs keep adding new shit every patch so it's hard to maintain (they ain't consistent at all)
nocturne pawn
i figured
grand steppe
Lowers the target's attack by 1 when their birthday is on a Tuesday in 2034.
tribal agate
@nocturne pawn @grand steppe bug is fixed, changes will come live in 5 mins, sorry for the issues
if you're curious, it was a new passive that Variety Lorelei had which was badly tagged and returning an error for any entry below her passive that you would search for (and there were plenty)
grand steppe
tribal agate
screw variety pairs man
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zealous karma
*sobs* i did it
Should’ve used Dianthavoir for Cynthia like me smh
nocturne pawn
i tried but clefairy would not live
soft gyro
I used Dianthavoir, Sycamore and Dawncremie
zealous karma
Sycamore and Diantha fight for sync considering the boost diantha gets from mega is more than Supp Ex, and sycamore wanting to sync for actually supporting the team. I used SSbrendan PSerena Diantha and then on a later test I did Ciris HoliJasmine Diantha
soft gyro
Eh, more time to snicker with Dazzling Gleam
and then sync to more sp.atk drops
which are still useful against that fight
nocturne pawn
if you wanted spatk drops just use karen and use a different support
zealous karma
could just use LDawn as well
scarlet smelt
Suggestions? Can ko the sides and get mid really low but completely wipe to sync
mellow linden
I’m 90% sure SS Acerola has anti-synergy with a Rain team
Huh, I guess not that much, actually
Anyway, focus the center 1st
scarlet smelt
I’d imagine she fit well with almost any physical unit
nocturne pawn
Suggestions? Can ko the sides and get mid really low but completely wipe to sync
do you have 3/5 hilbert
scarlet smelt
do you have 3/5 hilbert
Yes 4/5 but no ex
nocturne pawn
use him
he buffs kris faster and he has x speed to help with inertia
you could also try nuking mid with may since kris dps should be enough for sides
may is on their team lol
rigid flint
Yep I'm blind
I thought that was Wailmer
Also Flint has a lotta damage so you could try syncing with Kris first
I wasn't able to sync with Hilbert and presync since Hilbert or Kris kept dying
nocturne pawn
im surprised this is the one you’re struggling with lucian is a nightmare this week
rigid flint
I'm ngl I struggled with Flint more too
But tbf I do have SC Emmet which is why Lucian wasn't the worst
civic trellis
I had frogs and archie so I was fine, but no sc emmet so lucian was difficult
rigid flint
Yeah it's tough considering there's not many physical bug types
But as many people have proven
Bugsy and Noland together are able to get the stage done
civic trellis
Wdym
civic trellis
Yeah I used 2x support EX bcz syncing with noland ruins his fury cutter streak or wtvr
Plus kiawe can debuff defense, I was using colress before but didnt work
grand steppe
do you just 2x supp ex and hope noland dpses fast enough
fury cutter starts hitting for around 6-8k with a support ex, around 9-10k with 4x sync buffs
tame gust
what was the ground weak team again? Bertha 3/5+, with Courtney, and whom else? I'm guessing a crit buffer.
rigid flint
fury cutter starts hitting for around 6-8k with a support ex, around 9-10k with ...
Pretty decent for a one gauge move
rigid flint
what was the ground weak team again? Bertha 3/5+, with Courtney, and whom else? ...
Bertha does act as a crit buffer so you probably want a dps
tame gust
kinda lacking on ground units.
tame gust
Hilbert's open.
tame gust
Sadly dont' have Bertha ex'd. then again, I could always just do this one with op pair set on an off-type after I've finished medal this week.
oh wait, I don't need to worry about using a ground type. I already used one last week for the medal purposes.
tame gust
yeah. but the teams I'm building now are ones I want to use for the MM run.
zealous karma
Sadly dont' have Bertha ex'd. then again, I could always just do this one with o...
If bertha is 3/5 she doesnt need ex to nuke at least from what I have used in the past andas long as you have a good ground damage dealer with her which isnt many
tame gust
only other ground dps I've got is really Cynthia but she's only 1/5. Clay isn't gonna cut it imo. so maybe safer to just Off Type Aaron. Carnie craves blood
zealous karma
only other ground dps I've got is really Cynthia but she's only 1/5. Clay isn't ...
Cynthia + Bertha isnt to bad but if you want to off type with cmarnie sounds good
tame gust
oh right, accute senses.
vs Cynthia go at her with BuluRola, Mina, and MR sounds like a nice way to abuse
dark osprey
at that point why not just manage some dps with courtney
the ground zone will be there to boost both. can deny left and then centre
with the nuke
tame gust
medal cleared
keen jasper
Now it's time for pain
tame gust
this week's teams are kinda scuffed looking since I'm trying to use pairs I haven't used before.
For Flint I've got 3/5 Nessa, Winona, and BP Surge
Bertha's Irida 1/5, Lodge Dawn, and EX 3/5 Skyla
Aaron I'm just gonna abuse with Carnie/Cede and SSElesa or SS Brendan for faster sync moves.
Lucian I'm using Sonia, and SC SubBros
Cynthia was going to be Mina, MR and Bulurola, but I might need to switch Bulurola for a Sp.Def buffer instead.
on the Flint team I'm probably gonna switch out BP Surge for EX Hilbert
toxic cobalt
Those don't look scuffed
swift swan
this week's teams are kinda scuffed looking since I'm trying to use pairs I have...
That Mina team is fine as is
umbral crow
What to use for Aaron and Cynthia CS?
Btw im still in hard mode and remaining medal i need is only water
umbral crow
Any reason to not ss red instead silver tho?
old orchid
Silver's sync is better than SS Red, but you can use either
although with Lana Red has to take more turns to buff by himself
tbh i have no idea on Cynthia team, since your Mina is probably uninvested
umbral crow
Yeah, but i have 18k unused sync orbs currently and 40 3* pu
old orchid
invest on her then
she needs full grid and 4* at least
then use Hop + Mina + The Masked Royal
umbral crow
Alright ill try
undone ether
Uhm
for Cynthia
Try
Lucian + Xerneas + Red
actually
Xerneas + Red + Lucian
Xerneas as your main tank.
trail smelt
She does? Damn
keen jasper
She does? Damn
Fairy-weak Cynthia is made for Summer Marnie
Sp. Atk. debuff with Spirit Break and being a physical attack while Cynthia having only having Steady Resolve 3
trail smelt
And piercing gaze or accuracy buffs?
nocturne pawn
use an accuracy buffer
keen jasper
Who gets rounds 1 to 4?
The main question is, who do you want to get rid off first on round 1?
vast dome
Flint and Lucian are physical
vast dome
The main question is, who do you want to get rid off first on round 1?
Either Aaron or Bertha
keen jasper
Either Aaron or Bertha
Why?
keen jasper
Water is stacked AF
keen jasper
Well I have Guzma as my main bug physical striker
Don't want to use Noland or Bugsy?
proud axle
My order was Bertha Lucian Flint Aaron Cynthia
Bug Lucian was hecking awful with dual Guzma+Lusamine phys strikers
vast dome
Ribombee and frickin' tea party Submas is recommended for the stage
keen jasper
LMFAO
vast dome
Should I follow Gigafreak's order?
old orchid
depends on your teams
keen jasper
That's up to you
nocturne pawn
wait so does half sync round with -3 mean they just use item into sync
old orchid
depends on stage, but they will move like this: mid -> right -> mid -> sync
keen jasper
wait so does half sync round with -3 mean they just use item into sync
Depends, if you have both -1 and -2 sync parameters, then they'll only need 2 actions
nocturne pawn
depends on stage, but they will move like this: mid -> right -> mid -> sync
ok so basically dont do that
unless you want to die
vast dome
Water's stacked?
nocturne pawn
dgloria should win pretty easily
keen jasper
I have Dojo Gloria if that helps
Then you can just decimate Flint with her
Even in R1
nocturne pawn
if you have a double head start support you can just immediately sync after 1 turn in half sync round which is pretty funny imo
vast dome
What about Cynthia? Physical Fairy
nocturne pawn
just off type
if your mina is at least 4* you can use her
cuz she isnt affected by the acc drop at the start of the fight and her sync can do a lot
keen jasper
What about Cynthia? Physical Fairy
You can still use special fairy damage dealers
vast dome
I have Bede 1/5 and EX Diantha
keen jasper
1/5 EX Diantha?
keen jasper
So hows this
Do you have Courtney?
vast dome
no
proud axle
You could add a debuffer to the Ground team, then
Ghetsis, perhaps
Ruin his Atk and SpAtk to defang him
dark osprey
The ice team may benefit from a crit/special attacking buffer than dawn but still possible.
Can probably supplement Guzma with Lunge Lusamine too.
Cynthia, ingo with anyone may be enough
keen jasper
You could add a debuffer to the Ground team, then
That team is already strong as is
But has both special and physical damage dealers
proud axle
Ghetsis isn't going to attack though
vast dome
I'll try now
proud axle
But has both special and physical damage dealers
Cynthia is a phys attacker, Ingo barely attacks... So is the blank slot somehow a special attacker or were you expecting Glaciate to somehow deal damage
Fuck, wrong boss, editing
There, the ground boss is Aaron
Sorry about that
If you have an empty slot, just stick a Tech in it. Debuffs make things easier
Lucian looks like the only one who could be a problem, but Lucian is a problem for most of us
vast dome
Finished Round 1 Flint
proud axle
Good, got the half-sync round out of the way
nocturne pawn
Lucian looks like the only one who could be a problem, but Lucian is a problem f...
Lucian makes me want to die
why is he so annoyint
proud axle
Because Phys Bug has strong representatives but they're mostly Special Costume pairs
So they each only run once a year on banners with shit rates
toxic cobalt
This is why you run gridded Bugsy
proud axle
Phys bugs are so scarce that this week, Aaron's not even using a Bug type
I think that's why I thought the Ground team was for Flint. Fire's weak to Ground and Bug resists it
Maybe I should give Bugsy a try, as this was insanely rough with the team I used instead
...But next time.
Fortunate that Lucian only has his Bug weakpoint once this cycle
nocturne pawn
~~Phys bugs are so scarce that this week, Aaron's not even using a Bug type~~
well he has a drapion
so it still fits cuz they’re taking it from their teams
proud axle
Yes, that is exactly the joke
The Drapion's a curveball and IIRC it's even his ace
This is just a new and interesting way for it to make a fool out of me...
nocturne pawn
i almost got swept by his yanmega
zealous karma
Yanmega isn’t in the game
nocturne pawn
in pt i mean
zealous karma
On
twin flare
I'm having trouble with Lucian, is there someone who has made a guide yet?
north crown
I'm having trouble with Lucian, is there someone who has made a guide yet?
Your options:
- Support (EX would make this easier), Bugsy/Guzma, Lusamine/Noland
- offtype
- stall
twin flare
Bugsy? Really?
And btw i meant a YouTube video on them beating Lucian with a F2P team
zealous karma
Your options:
1. Support (EX would make this easier), Bugsy/Guzma, Lusamine/Nola...
Aurochs did Bugsy + Noland without supp Ex and it only took them 3 tries so I think it should be fine
twin flare
Is there a video?
twin flare
Thanq
nocturne pawn
is acerola for flinch
nocturne pawn
so id imagine someone like 3/5 falkner could also work
zealous karma
Acerola doesn’t have to use a 2 bar move for flinch and it’s a much closer tile for him
Also hop + falkner is e to me
Seems redundant
nocturne pawn
Acerola doesn’t have to use a 2 bar move for flinch and it’s a much closer tile ...
you meant her right
zealous karma
Yes
fringe valve
Depends on your perameters
If you're using offensive perams at half sync, you're going to have a tough time
If you're using post sync perameters at half sync, you'll have an easier time.
Lucians main gimmicks are bulky hp and wise entry x2 so its harder compared to other bosses.
proud axle
Wise ×2 when the best phys bug attackers are Special Costumes (i.e. only recur once a year each and on banners with fucking awful rates)
twin flare
I cleared him by EXing Guzma
proud axle
I did Guzma+Lusamine+Support and I definitely don't recommend it
Yeah, I had to EX Guzma too
twin flare
I used Sycamore and Clemont with Magneton
proud axle
Lucian would deal 700-1000dmg to both my attackers if he gets to sync
fringe valve
I just off typed him with SS korrina
proud axle
I was saving my best phys offtype for Cynthia, unfortunately
fringe valve
Wait was cynthia special bulky?
proud axle
Yeah, Wise ×2 with Fairy weakpoint means... so many Moonblast units are hobbled there
proud axle
Tfw you throw three Master Pairs at the problem
I "only" threw two Masters at it and it was cake. Maybe I should have used that team on Lucian instead, and my next-best phys offtype team on Cynthia
fringe valve
Yeah lucian is a more difficult boss. I'd prioritize him over cynthia.
proud axle
(Adaman, SSLyra, and Maylene-- to fix the Acc Down and help Lyra buff up faster)
patent torrent
proud axle
Decided to just try Ash-nuking through Wise×2? I guess I can kinda respect that
zealous karma
Tfw you throw three Master Pairs at the problem
Well I just threw 3 limiteds at her so I am amazimg
vast dome
Aaron, Bertha or Lucian Round 2?
old orchid
depends on your teams
zealous karma
Why Viola?
old orchid
better using Lusamine with Lunge
vast dome
Replaced Viola with Lusamine
Lusamine died easily to sync
Good team or replace SS Morty?
zealous karma
Good team
vast dome
but lusamine dies easily
old orchid
do quad queue so that Guzma can sync twice before Lucian's first sync
also avoid choosing too much hp / strength params
old orchid
old orchid
depends on your teams
vast dome
Is there a better support than SS Morty
for Lusamine and Guzma
Cuz 
relies on weather
Hop?
Red?
old orchid
Red
vast dome
FOILED
It almost worked
If not for Guzma dying early
there we go
Round 3 is Bertha and Round 4 is Aaron
I think I've made a mistake
keen jasper
I mean, neither Bertha nor Aaron has a special attack so you're good
gusty bluff
Is elio cyrus and may a solid team against flint?
timber folio
marley prob
toxic cobalt
I think it'll work fine
Cyrus' self buff should get him through with sleep chain assistance
keen jasper
Welp, trying 3.9k pts. on this week
sand karma
We need to change weather for 3/5 stages next week
dark osprey
3? 
toxic cobalt
Two next week are the same as week 1 
dark osprey
oh
so it would be sun, sand 2x?
and we need to bring rain, sun & anything other than sand right?
toxic cobalt
Well for Bertha and I think Cynthia it’s getting rid of sand
For Aaron it’s just have something iirc
dark osprey
oh yeah true
toxic cobalt
Not excited to try this without permanent field
dark osprey
i thought it was flint, not aaron with the weather
sinful garden
We need to change weather for 3/5 stages next week<:CyrusSweat:61279369879892789...
which ones
toxic cobalt
i thought it was flint, not aaron with the weather
Hmm I stalled flint I don’t remember if that was in sun
dark osprey
Not excited to try this without permanent field
noice. i tried the same team and on the permanent field itself
dark osprey
which ones
flint, bertha & Cynthia i guess