#Champion Stadium

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zealous karma
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alright try it and if you are struggling dont be afriad to say smth

low linden
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If this doesn't clear idk anymore WEEZing

tribal agate
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It would be immensely more helpful if you could take the time to post screenshots footage of where it fails

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it can tell us a lot about the setup and fight

low linden
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Like bulu provides so much damage and Misty should be keeping team alive

grand steppe
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full offenses with Power on Hit 1+2 will basically deal 75% of Bulu's HP with Psychic

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so that is an issue if sides queue moves

tribal agate
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the off type doesn't have full offense but power on hit needs to scale up to become a problem so if they buff that's not as big an issue
but yes it's important to remind and stress again that each reset on a CS fight will be different due to rng

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wait nvm it does have full offense i was looking at the post sync one ugh

verbal karma
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finally done with R4 Lucian

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god, that was awful

tribal agate
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nice congratz

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so what was the winning team

verbal karma
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thank you

verbal karma
tribal agate
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SS Hilda / Bulu / SwMisty?

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ah Misty

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ok so hopefully you saw how good off type can be with powercreep pairs

verbal karma
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luckily, Misty's TM gave Bulurola some evasiveness

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which allowed Bulurola to dodge

zealous karma
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lucian has x accuracy all to keep in mind

verbal karma
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but also once on SS Hilda

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all thanks to MPR luck not screwing me over for once

zealous karma
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so how is bulu's survival now?

verbal karma
zealous karma
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can you try leveling bulu up?

bronze onyx
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You went for the evasion rather than the Sp. Def buffs?

nocturne pawn
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isnt yours 3/5

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she has sunscreen at 2/5

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which is damage reduction

tribal agate
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if she's 3/5 she also has added sustain under grassy

zealous karma
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shes 1/5

tribal agate
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fake news'd

nocturne pawn
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makes more sense

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zealous karma
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z

nocturne pawn
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but even so her survivability at 1/5 isnt bad

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its like average

empty portal
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Why is this week so hard? Idk if it's the paremeters I'm using but struggling more than usual 🤔🫤

nocturne pawn
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if anything i hate hilbert for how weak he is at times in terms of bulk

nocturne pawn
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aaron has 29k base hp which makes it hard to pre sync

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same deal with bertha

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lucian has wise entry x2 and flint uh can hit hard ig

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and fairy weak Cynthia is miserable

zealous karma
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it was fine for me

nocturne pawn
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richu shut

zealous karma
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I have cleared the stage with several teams inthe past and now its not a bad stage

bronze onyx
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Bertha has common HP

zealous karma
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her hp is a lot lower compared to the other sinnoh e4

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as dors cynthis

nocturne pawn
tribal agate
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Aaron and Lucian are at 29k base

nocturne pawn
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ewww

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why

tribal agate
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the others 17k

bronze onyx
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Lucian is boosted HP + Wise Entry x2

tribal agate
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and a real shitty type

bronze onyx
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Alt Iris is even worse

nocturne pawn
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in terms of hp?

tribal agate
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omg

grand steppe
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13k for fighting weak iris

tribal agate
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yeah but she has almost HALVED OFFENSES 😭

nocturne pawn
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yeah thats pretty bad

bronze onyx
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Reduced HP, reduced offense, reduced resistance to defense drops, and a champion, so you get two params

nocturne pawn
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thats sad

grand steppe
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did Iris come out before wally released

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Iris CS*

nocturne pawn
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unova was during 1.5 i think

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cuz it was running when iris and diantha first ran which was around then

zealous karma
# verbal karma still a bit shaky, sadly

Lemme organize the advise I am giving you:
SWMisty, BuluRola, SSHilda.
Off Type Pre Sync No Status condition instead of strike damage x3.

Turn 1 - SSHilda TM -> SWMisty TM -> BSwords Dance.
Turn 2 -> Searing shot the left mon -> Potion (on bulu if neccesary otherwise) Swimisty tm -> Sunny day.
Turn 3 - Searing shot Right Mon -> Potion bulu -> BSwords Dance.
With both sides weakened by searing shot Hilda's sync should be able to turn deny so
Turn 4 - BSwords Dance -> Hilda sync -> potion on Bulu

tribal agate
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Richu they cleared the stage

zealous karma
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o

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moyai

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lel

nocturne pawn
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they meant her tankiness

zealous karma
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🗿

tribal agate
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ace quotes moment

nocturne pawn
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yeah that is a very 🗿moment

zealous karma
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so true

pure haven
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I'm crying so hard right rn LarryDead

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Left kept flinching me and stopping me from clearing the stage

verbal karma
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it just was...very dependant on luck...

zealous karma
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i was typing way before you won lel

verbal karma
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ah, I see

zealous karma
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I was also saying searing shot when thats a special nmove so lel

verbal karma
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ugh

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R5 Cynthia is giving me trouble now

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Cynthia literally has only 1% of her health left before she does her sync

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and sadly, Mina can't survive that

zealous karma
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are you using the team I said

verbal karma
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not even after a double sync from the EX support and a sync from Mina herself

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zealous karma
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I said HoliJasmine but ye

verbal karma
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I tried HoliJasmine, but that sadly didn't work out, so I replaced her with Sycamore

zealous karma
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how is mina getting crit or atk buffs?

verbal karma
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I am getting better results with Sycamore, but still not good enough

zealous karma
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why did you struggle with HOlijasmine

verbal karma
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I forgot

verbal karma
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anyway, MR/Mina/SS Blue is my current team

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and it's almost working

zealous karma
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I see but I would personally run this

verbal karma
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I feel like it only didn't work because a few attacks too many just...missed

zealous karma
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thats unfort considering mina has impervious

rotund lagoon
latent eagle
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Is it possible to poison stall Cynthia?

peak stirrup
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Wow…..Diantha and SS Wally didn’t make a dent in Cynthia

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rotund lagoon
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….can you try her again with the grid Richu showed?

rotund lagoon
rotund lagoon
latent eagle
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Hm, must’ve used my good poison stall teams bc I am STRUGGLING LarryDead

peak stirrup
rotund lagoon
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Y’all………Mina.

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Both of you.

peak stirrup
zealous karma
cinder summitBOT
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rotund lagoon
latent eagle
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My Mina is 4 star and not EXed so—

rotund lagoon
peak stirrup
rotund lagoon
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An Atk/Crit buffer and you can use SS Wally for Zone.

latent eagle
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Hop/Mina and someone else cause I don’t have SS Wally would work?

peak stirrup
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Yeah I could try Hop, I guess.

latent eagle
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No I’m asking if hop/Mina would work lmao cause I have no idea

rotund lagoon
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Well, yea. Third slot can be a debuffer.

latent eagle
rotund lagoon
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Masked Royal?

latent eagle
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Cause it doesn't look like he does?

pure haven
rotund lagoon
latent eagle
rotund lagoon
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That could be a parameter thing.

pure haven
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That's how I managed

latent eagle
verbal karma
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okay, I finally did it

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but man, it took me multiple tries

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5 times did Mina's sync leave Cynthia at a sliver of health left

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and Mina couldn't survive Cynthia's sync

pure haven
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Let me share my params

latent eagle
pure haven
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Not a bad idea, yet sometimes you gotta use some different params to get it

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Those are the grids

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It's a little bit tricky o play it tho

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U need hop's TMR to get crit +3

rotund lagoon
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Nice thing with Hop is you get 5/5 for free, unlike Hilbert or Sonia

pure haven
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Turn 1: Hop tm, screech, charm
Turn 2: Hop tm, screech, charm
Turn 3: Hop tm, screech, charm
Sync, speed X, and prolly heal hop

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Quadque play rough and keep spammin screech

peak stirrup
pure haven
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When queuing sync 2, put second speed x and prolly heal hop again

rotund lagoon
peak stirrup
rotund lagoon
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You can turn off ping.

rotund lagoon
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Tell me the parameters you’re using.

peak stirrup
pure haven
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Oh, makes sense

peak stirrup
rotund lagoon
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Hmmmmmm…….check the pins.

peak stirrup
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I’ll have to wait for my desktop
That’s awful to try to read on mobile

rotund lagoon
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Much better to read in there.

wraith cove
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What team are you using for that run?

rotund lagoon
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Hop, SS Wally, Mina. Probably should do a debuffer instead tho?

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I may have realized my mistake ^^;

grand steppe
# peak stirrup

You have quite a lot of strength for that run, what is the team?

peak stirrup
grand steppe
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okay, and she didn't one-shot the middle on the 2nd sync?

peak stirrup
grand steppe
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Is hop your only physical support here?

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Hop I assume is dying to the special move damage here

peak stirrup
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Would need to restart till she gets TM MPR though

grand steppe
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she doesn't have crit at 2/5

rotund lagoon
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You don’t have Hilbert, BP Surge or Lodge Blue?

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Hilbert needs 3/5 tho

peak stirrup
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I have the BP pairs…..highly doubt they would live long enough

grand steppe
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what star rank is mina?

peak stirrup
grand steppe
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So, her 2nd sync will one-shot mid, but you're saying the tank died before you got there?

peak stirrup
grand steppe
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That's strange, with ssWally syncing, you get -2 from his head start passive.

peak stirrup
grand steppe
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Oh definitely not.

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You should sync with ssWally first, and apply rebuff to the enemy team.

nocturne pawn
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yeah i cant on type aaron this week

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naomi got 5.3k on sync 💀

rotund lagoon
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Any weather?

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Naomi wants sand

nocturne pawn
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she had sand up im pretty sure

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but i can try again

rotund lagoon
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Oki

grand steppe
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sounds like it didn't crit

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you made sure to have the gradual healing option?

nocturne pawn
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yeah it did crit though

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maybe its cuz i didnt set up inertia

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ill try with supp ex too

grand steppe
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she doesn't have Inertia, she does have Ramming Speed though.

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her 1st sync should be a lot higher than 5.3k with Double Down 5 & Sand Blaster though,

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like between 11k-15k depending on the strength

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Oh wait, that's with Ground Zone & Sand, oops

empty portal
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Do parameters matter much for each E4 trainer this week? Like should I change them accordingly or no?

grand steppe
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You adjust parameters based on your own teams typically, but there are some that want status conditions which is a parameter.

peak stirrup
grand steppe
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Did you clear the stage?

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or did the sides KO you?

peak stirrup
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Yeah, took a couple of times to get MPR on Hop.
Sides were a lot rougher than expected. Took 3x Play Rough to go down

grand steppe
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well, one of the issues with some lower rarity techs is that have good syncs, but not good moves

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it probably would've been easier to to do, if you adjusted the parameters so Wally could also contribute damage, but it looks you cleared it so grats

peak stirrup
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If she had ripple effect they would have gone down in probably two

grand steppe
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your grid didn't have power posture anyway, so it wouldn't have mattered

grand steppe
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not the one linked above

peak stirrup
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Must have been somebody else’s

grand steppe
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Power Posture is only a 30% increase so, you maybe it could've been cut down to 2.

empty portal
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Any tips to beat Lucian?

zealous karma
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Either off those with a strong melee team or try to use bugsy + lusamine

tame gust
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Hmm for a Mina-centric party, would Darach and either 3/5 Hilbert or Hop be acceptable companions? Darach is there to quicken Atk drop so Mina can focus more on play rough spam.

zealous karma
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If hilbert isn’t ex hop and if you don’t have masked Royal darachs prolly fine

tame gust
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I’ve got Hilbert at EX and I’ve got 3/5 EX MR

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Scratch that, 5/5 EX and gridded MR lmao

zealous karma
tame gust
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I’m finishing up type medals this week, but I’m just getting ideas for teams on the MM run

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Issue I’m probably gonna have is ground weak Flint maybe, unless having a 3/5 Betha and 1/5 Courtney can help tip the scales. Lacking a good ground attacker.

Lucian I think I can down him with the subway butlers, granted Accelgor only has 1/5 while Escavalier is 3/5.

Water weak I sadly don’t have a 3/5 Nessa, only 2/5. Have 5/5 EX Maypert however

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And I think Ice weak might be doable with 1/5 Irida for the hail set just to remove the weather. I’ve got Hala for Ice damage. Just gotta consider my supports

tired sleet
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I highly doubt you’d struggle with Bertha and Courtney vs Ground weak or Submas vs the stage that was designed for them

tame gust
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Yeah I don’t fear Lucian as much as some do because I’ve got the sub-bugs.

Wish Ice wasn’t in such a bad spot still

tired sleet
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You have Irida, you’re doing better than most players in ice

dusk swan
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What is it that causes Lucian’s Girafrig to take such little damage, even if it’s physical?

mellow linden
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If he’s taking low amounts of physical damage then you probably selected Physical Damage Reduction 8 (or if you’re off-typing Standard Damage Reduction 8) by accident

dusk swan
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Yeah cuz I’m off typing with ash ss red and ssa Cynthia and he’s taking basically like 300 dmg from my volt tackles

mellow linden
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Definitely have 1 or more of the wrong Damage Reduction 8 parameters on then

rotund lagoon
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Honestly

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If I’m using the rats, I take out Cynthia and turn on Support Damage x3

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SSAC could be saved for another team that wants the bulk.

dusk swan
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Yup it was the standard damage reduction 8

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Just beat it first try after that

versed meteor
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Where f2p clear?

rotund lagoon
versed meteor
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For this week

rotund lagoon
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We don’t have videos of those like we do for #1009557516369281075
It’s usually up to us to make teams for ourselves.

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I’m sure people made some, but we don’t gather them like we do for that.

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Do you need help?

versed meteor
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Well i need teams cause i doubt i have time to make mine

rotund lagoon
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Do you know how to teambuild?

rigid flint
toxic cobalt
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F2p for this week is not simple (well, aside from water weak just use Cyrus)

plush tangle
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bertha is easy ngl

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well i kinda used 2 of the best f2p units together SeleneLul but sycamore probably can be replaced for like... any tank, ghetsis can buff himself nowadays

zealous karma
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I found Bertha easier than kahili

rigid flint
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Love using Pryce Ghetsis and Sycamore together

old orchid
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Classic Ice team before BP Candice existance

rigid flint
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Ghetsis is fun to use

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His Cold Snap 2 is more consistent than Blizzard HE1 right?

north crown
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also just great synergy with pryce's double freeze dmg multipliers

rigid flint
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Freeze Energy 16 my beloved

swift swan
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Good morning CS chat

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Are you winning

zealous karma
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Yea actually (:

tired sleet
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Oh yeah i left cynthia since team bianca called

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There are other people there for duties so i should finish beating her up

zealous karma
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Use diantha

swift swan
rigid flint
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Use mina :D

swift swan
zealous karma
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Use PSerena

keen jasper
zinc island
swift swan
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look i know ash and cmarnie are some of the most busted special attackers but i must remind you lucian has wise entry x2 which halves your special damage

zinc island
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Oh

keen jasper
zinc island
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And what do you do when you don't have the special costume subway bros?

keen jasper
swift swan
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you bruteforce with special bug types, use physical bug damage dealers, or offtype with physical units

keen jasper
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But it's meant for SC Ingo because Aaron has clear passives

swift swan
zinc island
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I tried alder EX ss hilbert and ex aaron and still couldn't do half the damage

swift swan
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i cleared it with ss hilbert and lunge lusamine so you can maybe try that

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ss hilbert will help any of the physical bugs

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from rebuff alone

zinc island
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I guess i can try that yeah

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Man bug is really lacking in physical attackers huh? We need a crustle azap

keen jasper
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Actually, he has Hyper Voice

keen jasper
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No

zinc island
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Yeah i remember being hit by an AOE attack

keen jasper
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Only WE x2

zinc island
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I should have figured out he had wise entry 2

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Plus he starts the battle by lowering your special attack in 2

keen jasper
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Also, do you have Standard Damage Reduction active?

zinc island
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Talk about unfair

zinc island
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Not in tge clear i showed

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When i used the bugs i did

keen jasper
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Well, you can use Ash next week

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Because of "that" stage

zinc island
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Is it Lucian again?

keen jasper
zealous karma
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Yes he has wise entry x2 on dark week

zealous karma
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Not like anyone was going to use Karen anyways

keen jasper
zinc island
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Doesn't that sounds fun

zealous karma
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No he doesn’t HilbertHmm

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That’s for his electric week

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Next week is endurance and first aid 2

zinc island
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So the same as last one with heracross?

zealous karma
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Yes

zinc island
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From what i'm seeing Lucian is proving to be more of a champion on champipn stadium than actual champions

keen jasper
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Hmmm, Aaron doesn't have speed debuff mitigation

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And all his debuff mitigation is 3 instead of the usual 5

tired sleet
zealous karma
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Lucina was also fine for me never found him to bad before

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The stage I prolly struggled on the most was maybe electric week Aaron when that debuted

keen jasper
zealous karma
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We do have ash in the game

keen jasper
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Also, WE x3 Bertha SophoKEK

zealous karma
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Rip thorton nuke

keen jasper
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More like RIP Raihan users

zinc island
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Well in case things go south i always have plan A B and C.
Ash, volkner and christmas jasmine
Ncerana Ncalem and may
Poison stall

zealous karma
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Marnie will be fine for next week

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It’ll be like she’s off typing with the additional benefits of SEUN

keen jasper
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I can't wait for Marnie to deal this amount of damage except halved:
355416, 359365, 363314, 367263, 371212, 375161, 379110, 383059, 387008, 390957, 394906

zinc island
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Why those specific numbers?

zealous karma
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It’s the numbers from poma tools

devout sluice
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Oh, guess rip my Zoroark plan next week on dark type then.

zealous karma
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If you’ve ever off typed with Zoroark it’s essentially the same thing

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But with seun benefits

devout sluice
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Oh.

zealous karma
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Pre sync

rigid flint
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Oh right Wise Entry Dark weak

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Man

sand karma
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Who is better Guzma or Bugsy?

zealous karma
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In my opinion sync wise bugsy, however Guzma has the edge of ex if yours is ex. But Guzma and lusa have better synergy due to theme skills and stuff but I like bugsy + Noland more than I do lusa + gzuma because it’s less gauge intrusive

dark osprey
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Bugsy does have the guaranteed crit sync i guess which i personally like.

full mesa
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Yep. But she can't do much without zone or def drop

rigid flint
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Nah Bugsy can do find without zone

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He just needs some def drops

swift swan
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eh, he couldn't presync Lucian even with EX support and -6 def

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i tried. his nuke was just shy of killing lucian at strength 5

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mine was 4* without any lucky skill though. maybe at 5* with CS2 he'd have better chances

dark osprey
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yeah. not worth running bugsy alone since dps suffers. I liked lunge Lussamine with bugsy and some dps from aaron too

sand karma
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I ended up doing Sonia, SCIngo, Guzma

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He struggled a bit with that too

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But the def drops helped a lot

pure haven
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Does Cynthia next week has some kind of damage reduction? Idk If I should bring Cyrus or Zinnia

bronze onyx
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Only under sand

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She gets 50% more Sp. Def

pure haven
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Mmh I see

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I'll have to bring something to take it out

zealous karma
pure haven
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How does it look for next week's csmm?

sand karma
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Overkill is an understatement

zealous karma
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I’d move Acerola to SSRed team as SSteven + bulu I’d super overkill

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And move Bede to marnie team

pure haven
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Kk

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Oh wait

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Acerola for Bede? Not for Blaine?

zealous karma
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Double support for SSRed is a bit much so you could prolly replace Blaine with Lucian if you have him

pure haven
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Somethin' like this then?

old orchid
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All good yes

pure haven
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Nice nice

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Also, what about bpMorty instead of elio for a little healing?

old orchid
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Yeah if you are uncertain, although CMarnie should clear fast enough to care about healing

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Wait, iirc Dark weak Lucian has Wise Entry x2 or sth?

pure haven
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I think, but idk if I have a good dark physic

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Let me check

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Mr I guess?

swift swan
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Nessa + MR + Hop will chomp their way to victory

keen jasper
zealous karma
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Nessa is swag

zealous karma
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Hmm what are the stages people are struggling on

keen jasper
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I'm guessing Flint or Lucian

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Flint because he hits too damn hard and Lucian with his entry gimmicks

sand karma
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Wait head start doesn't work when you mega?

keen jasper
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Mega is prolly no different

sand karma
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Mega is entry

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Many entry passives work when you mega

keen jasper
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Still not counted as first time

sand karma
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Right

keen jasper
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"First time it enters a battle each battle."

rotund lagoon
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Have not seen anyone ask about Flint other than just wanting help for the entire week.

rigid flint
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Yee

nocturne pawn
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aaron is annoying

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this is probably too miserable on gauge right

rigid flint
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Probably, yeah

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I'd suggest just focusing on using Hala

nocturne pawn
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i can try sync accel with red

rigid flint
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Add a Hail setter and a defense debuffer too

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Ye that works

nocturne pawn
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wait she sets sand right

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and sand superiority?

rigid flint
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Yep and uhh no

nocturne pawn
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ok nvm that was last week

rigid flint
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She just has sand multipliers

nocturne pawn
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but uh i forgot to change tactics

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and then she poisoned hala with poison tail :

rigid flint
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Like Surging Sand

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Oh

keen jasper
rigid flint
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True but tbh having Hala and Leon together probably isn't the best idea

nocturne pawn
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ok uh

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Bertha just got walked over

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i think ive been throwing myself at aaron and lucian too much

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cuz it felt so much easier

rigid flint
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Hala basically deletes the stage first sync

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Just needs like 1 or 2 more ice hammers after syncto take Bertha down

nocturne pawn
rigid flint
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Oh huh

nocturne pawn
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and ice hammer was doing like 3.6k

rigid flint
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Hala did big damage for me

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Weird

nocturne pawn
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well mine was first sybc

rigid flint
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Did you have his Super Prep 9 grid?

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Mine was first sync too

nocturne pawn
rigid flint
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He did 16k

nocturne pawn
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i dont

rigid flint
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Ah

nocturne pawn
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i used redlax on one of the ice hammers

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to get sync

rigid flint
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Ah right

nocturne pawn
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does aaron need weather

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or does he just need field effects

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ok he needs weather

rigid flint
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He needs weather

nocturne pawn
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clear power up and clear advantage are too damn close

keen jasper
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Well, Clear passives you know

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You need a field

nocturne pawn
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bru

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the problem is that they use the same wording but dont deactivate the same way

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aaron specifically needs weather

rigid flint
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Yeah Aaron specifically needs weather

keen jasper
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Hmmm, so Clear Advantage is fields in general, but Clear Powerup is weather?

nocturne pawn
#

kimono grimsley should be able to do lucian right

swift swan
swift swan
nocturne pawn
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i can probably full nuke with metal burst then dps the sides with iron head

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ok never mind that only did 13k with supp ex

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goddamnit

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hahaha of course his sync doesn’t crit

zealous karma
zealous karma
nocturne pawn
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i hate lucian

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oh my god

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tech sync refuses to crit once again

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WHY DOES HE HAVE 40KHP WHY

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i might actually have to poison stall

swift swan
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his base HP is almost 29k so yeah

nocturne pawn
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i didnt even take strength 3 this is so cringe

zealous karma
rigid flint
#

They're pretty good

nocturne pawn
zealous karma
vapid notch
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am i the only one struggling with the bug stage? i tried lusamine and Ex Alder and cant beat it

zealous karma
old orchid
#

Lucian has Wise Entry x2 and high HP so special dmg dealers are not effective yeah

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Its recommendeded to offtype with strong physical dmg dealer or invest on Bugsy

vapid notch
#

so we should use physical attacks, but i don't have any bug physical units. too bad they made Mega Sceptile and Brendan are garbage

vapid notch
old orchid
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Bugsy and Noland exist you know MinaSmile

zealous karma
#

And Noland, bugsy can’t clear by himself

old orchid
#

Bugsy and Mega Beedrill, they are 3* in gen pool

zealous karma
old orchid
#

Or use Lunge Lusamine

zealous karma
#

Calling Brendan garbage is the first time I’ve ever heard that

old orchid
#

Discord lagging hype

zealous karma
#

My messages are delayed

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Oh it’s discord not me

grand steppe
#

Bugsy Scyther is a support regardless.

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You don't necessarily have to use Noland if you don't want to, but the stage is still special resistant. So use strong physical pairs.

zealous karma
#

I’d prefer using Noland fury cutter focus and bugsy nuke or Lusamine lunge focus grid and Noland sync nuke no DPS

nocturne pawn
#

wouldnt bugscy actually be helpful to support both of them funnily enough

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cuz he has leer and x attack all

zealous karma
#

He’s to slow

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At buffing

nocturne pawn
#

so hilbert i guess

zealous karma
#

I like sonia cause def debuffs

vapid notch
zealous karma
#

Or hop

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Brendan has 1.3X attack and has the highest attack stat in the game but calling him garbage is wrong cause he was always a great pair

old orchid
vapid notch
grand steppe
#

They still want you to have a reason to pull for future grass gachas, but thats off topic for this channel.

toxic cobalt
#

Sadly Brendan is already too busted

vapid notch
zealous karma
grand steppe
#

Well he can still receive a grid expansion we can Hopium there for Dauntless and other stuff

zealous karma
#

So true

tame gust
#

Oh neat, got my 3/5 Nessa. Also I’m forgetful but does Hala get any hail multipliers?

sand karma
#

Yes

nocturne pawn
#

his dps is good enough as is cuz le funny 237 bp

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what you want is super prep and haymaker

tame gust
#

So Irida, Hala and a decent tank should be good? Irida is only 1/5 and don’t have candies for her atm. Or is bringing Irida along just overkill?

grand trout
#

You'd want hail tho

tame gust
#

No kill like Overkill

I got it. I’ll bring eggmon Lapras for hail lel

keen jasper
#

Irida already sets hail from Ice Zone

old orchid
#

Hala gains very little from hail damage wise. The only reason to use Irida with him is zone

nocturne pawn
#

its like invigorating hail 2 or some shit

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aka its not worth it

grand trout
old orchid
#

Nah just bring a defense debuffer

grand trout
old orchid
#

Oh right, but why not use Irida

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No need to bring an eggmon

nocturne pawn
#

just use irida she has zone too

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also i feel like bertha doesnt hit that hard either

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like even with sand up i was able to tank it relatively ok

old orchid
#

It depends on your tank and params tho

sand karma
#

BP Candice feels so good with Irida
The before/after is astounding

swift swan
#

all she needs are ice zone, hail, and sinnoh master passive!

sand karma
#

Her Blizzards take out like 1/5th sides health without sync buffs

zealous karma
#

Funny irida offers more than like a masterfair support with that passive but obviously she’s not comparable to one

swift swan
#

Right, can't forget about that! Boy she sure needs... All the help.....

zealous karma
#

lel

nocturne pawn
#

i feel like this is just bp candice anti propaganda

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needs mf to feel half decent

keen jasper
#

LMFAO

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BP Candice was usable during the Dawn EB

swift swan
#

I never liked using candice. Both versions GretaCringe i know Abomasnow's nuke is legit but idk why I don't enjoy using her

grand trout
#

Omg not this bp candice slander

sand karma
#

The dps is just too terrible to just keep sync nuking with Candice

nocturne pawn
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without irida

grand trout
#

Contrarily i like her over aboma Candice

nocturne pawn
#

and 300 spatk is not really compelling either

nocturne pawn
#

shes worse than og for nuke and both of their dps is pretty bad

grand trout
#

Frosdice

formal vigil
#

base candice

swift swan
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Huh, i thought it was abomasnow who has hail MPR

sand karma
#

Anyway now that I got Irida, I can happily be a BPCandice enjoyer

formal vigil
#

it is

swift swan
#

Froslass doesn't, right

grand trout
#

Oh

formal vigil
#

yeah

sand karma
#

Correct

formal vigil
#

also you want to use base candice for drake

zealous karma
#

I love using base candice

grand trout
#

W..well, she's better than Lorelei!!! HildaCry

keen jasper
formal vigil
#

anyones better than lorelei unless your norman ig

grand trout
#

Has anyone used pryce in CS

nocturne pawn
#

oh i got them mixed up

nocturne pawn
#

for the 1/5 irida showcase

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lmao

sand karma
formal vigil
#

pryce good with ghetsis

grand trout
#

Ouch, the gauge

formal vigil
#

with ghetsis powerboost should be fine

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as long you bring a good guage support

grand trout
#

ss n

nocturne pawn
#

i need more p ups

formal vigil
#

bugsy scytherBarryPogChamp

upbeat dragon
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also u literally have alder

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thats a damn fine bug roster

nocturne pawn
#

its wise entry x2 alder sucks ass

grand trout
#

Lucian has wise entry x2

nocturne pawn
#

if it was normal id be using him

grand trout
#

Fury cutter dps FTW

upbeat dragon
nocturne pawn
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on 2.5k?

#

how the fuck

formal vigil
#

1/5?

upbeat dragon
nocturne pawn
#

🗿

upbeat dragon
#

i only do 2.5k with electric, psychic, fire and water stages

nocturne pawn
#

well this is 2.5k

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so

upbeat dragon
#

yea no makes sense mb

nocturne pawn
#

i need 3 more p ups for bugsy

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and its so fucking annoying

grand trout
#

Idea : use gladion and change to bug

nocturne pawn
#

dude has awful stats

formal vigil
#

only worth if you have sc steven or og red

upbeat dragon
#

supereffective next boosts make up for it

formal vigil
#

or chrismas jasmine

nocturne pawn
#

i already used redlax

upbeat dragon
#

oh

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well thats too bad

upbeat dragon
#

ss giovanni go brr

nocturne pawn
#

do i go post sync then

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i know its more dangerous cuz he buffs crit but i dont see how i can pre sync off type with 40k hp

grand trout
#

Can you survive it

nocturne pawn
#

idk i dont do post sync

north crown
#

with holjasmine, perhaps

nocturne pawn
grand trout
#

Does fc dps with bugscy not work

nocturne pawn
#

you need both

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and bugsy needs power ups

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which i dont have

grand trout
#

No i mean

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Leer?

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Your bugscy is ex

nocturne pawn
#

again

keen jasper
#

LMFAO, I tried brute-forcing Lucian on R1 with Burgh

nocturne pawn
#

noland solo dps doesnt work

grand trout
#

Aw

keen jasper
#

It just doesn't work

nocturne pawn
grand trout
keen jasper
keen jasper
nocturne pawn
#

as in not using hyper voice or psychic turn 1?

keen jasper
nocturne pawn
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cuz those just end the run

grand trout
#

I used ya boi lol

nocturne pawn
#

god

keen jasper
#

And also flinch the sides when Lucian goes down

formal vigil
#

what I did i used noaland for dps and masked royal ex for nuke

nocturne pawn
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i dont want to bother running those 2

formal vigil
#

cleared presync too

nocturne pawn
#

THE RIGHT SIDE GOT THE FLINCH

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ON SONIA

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I CANT

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WHY DOES PSYCHIC DO 760

zealous karma
#

Wow Brendan hit way harder than I expected him too

low linden
#

Limit testing BarryPogChamp

keen jasper
#

I can't even brute force YOLO Lucian with SC Emmet

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Damn, max HP Lucian even survived SC Emmet's sync with EX support sync buff and SEUN

toxic cobalt
swift swan
keen jasper
keen jasper
swift swan
#

Yes, but the point was, Marnie's nuke did 99k (old damage cap) and it was not enough to oneshot

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It's not a matter of the nuke being too weak, but the opponent having too much bulk

keen jasper
#

Hmmmm, ok

tame gust
#

Trying to mimic how slow the HP bars drained in the Gen 4 games lel

long thicket
#

If I recall, Diantha isn't very good against this Diantha stage, right?

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I remember having to beat it with a pre-grid Mina instead.

keen jasper
#

Well, Cynthia has Wise Entry x2

long thicket
#

Is Lisia good? Or maybe Sygna Hau?

keen jasper
long thicket
#

Yeah. Got her 1/5, I think.

keen jasper
long thicket
#

As a support, I guess.
I think OG Lillie is one?

rose ermine
#

Can CBlue do rock weak flint

long thicket
#

Um...
I think he'd be a solid option, yeah. I personally tend to use Emmett more, but he seems good.
You might wanna pair him with Ingo if you got him, because his TM under sandstorm gives gauge-free moves.

swift swan
#

The stage might have wise entry x2 but cblue has a physical sync and double edge anyway

nocturne pawn
#

why the fuck does it have wise entry x2

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if anything id have expected it to have sentry entry x2

swift swan
#

Anti CBlue

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You know what has sentry entry x2?

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Rock-weak Malva!

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Mwahahaha

nocturne pawn
#

rock weak malva and i still crushed her with ss diantha and raihan

#

so

paper summit
#

I mean...

nocturne pawn
#

rock zone basically offsets sentry entry

paper summit
#

that's not a flex

nocturne pawn
#

it isnt but it isnt awfully difficult either

swift swan
formal vigil
#

i beat it with roark no rock zone

nocturne pawn
#

flint with sentry entry would probably be a lot more threatening

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considering his all out offense approach

swift swan
#

Considering we have a lot of special damage dealers i think offtyping with special moves would still be easy

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And besides, x2 entry isn't too much to be afraid of. Your super effective moves will feel as if they're dealing offtype damage, that's all

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But keeping all the super effective-related passives like double down and things like SEUP

nocturne pawn
#

its more so annoying than actually hard

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because its trying to gatekeep units

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or shill others

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doing a bad job of it

#

but still i dont like the concept of it in cs

swift swan
#

It depends on the types. x2 entry on electric or rock isn't as hard as wise entry x2 on bug

nocturne pawn
#

ebe i can kinda get cuz its supposed to be difficult

nocturne pawn
formal vigil
#

also at the time elec weak aaron first came electric was struggling

swift swan
#

If Hau could beat 2k Aaron before he even had EX I think there isn't much to worry about. Electric-weak Aaron just gets the memes because it gave everyone hell during the first debut, but electric roster has grown greatly since then

formal vigil
#

now its alot easier definetely not beacuse of two pikachus

nocturne pawn
#

its sentry entry right

swift swan
#

Yes

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And even N could presync back then

nocturne pawn
#

i think elesa can still brute force

formal vigil
#

now at least

nocturne pawn
#

she always had inertia

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and her dps was fine

#

the standfast nodes were a little annoying to get to but that was basically it

swift swan
#

Aaron is still super bulky in general but now with her nuke + wild charge not killing her in three moves anymore i think she has a good chance

nocturne pawn
#

whats wrong with 87.5% mitigation

#

wait no

swift swan
#

I mean back then she didn't have as many standfast tiles

nocturne pawn
#

she always had 2 didnt she

formal vigil
#

yes

nocturne pawn
#

also i goofed its 75%

#

but still i dont think its such a big deal

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in cs no less

#

the big thing was getting better set up and brawn sync 5 tbh

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god why is sonia so bad on the special side

#

i need her to survive her sync but she just dies to thunder or focus blast from the left

zealous karma
weak sequoia
#

@keen jasper @rotund lagoon

grand steppe
#

Are you aware of how to gain turns by perfoming denials?

#

such as using flinch/sleep

rotund lagoon
keen jasper
#

On the medal

weak sequoia
#

This is itDianthaSmile

keen jasper
#

8 types

rotund lagoon
#

Ok, looks like we need to do some fillers

#

6 left, cause In Progress means they were used last rounds

keen jasper
#

That's pretty yikes, and you already did 2 of the E4 with only 2 types filled for the 2nd week

weak sequoia
#

We do have sinnoh all month long right?

nocturne pawn
#

yeah

rotund lagoon
#

Yeah, and have you used the tracker btw?

#

+tracker

frozen depotBOT
keen jasper
nocturne pawn
#

but its better to unlock mm rather than later

#

at the same time lucian is kicking my goddamn ass and i hate it

#

sonia has 0 special bulk and its annoying the hell out of me

rotund lagoon
nocturne pawn
#

because psychic drops her down to like 10%

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and if he uses it a second time she just dies

#

969 on a support

keen jasper
nocturne pawn
#

i know

#

and its annoying

#

im trying to use mr noland sonia but she keeps dying

zealous karma
nocturne pawn
#

maybe i shouldnt take attack up 5

rotund lagoon
#

We need an Atk/Crit/Sp Df Support

#

GIVE US THAT DENA

zealous karma
#

So real

nocturne pawn
#

im not using zone

#

so that should be ok

#

hopefully she stops insta dying to psychic

zealous karma
keen jasper
rotund lagoon
keen jasper
#

I was willing to candy him if he had Berserker Bunch and All Ramped Up

zealous karma
#

Dw Pb will give him furious buddies

formal vigil
#

aaron?

zealous karma
#

Aaron does it to slowly

keen jasper
#

Yeah

nocturne pawn
#

GREAT THE FOCUS BLAST MISSED BUT HE USES PSYCHIC AND KILLS HER

rotund lagoon
#

I legit do not like using Aaron

nocturne pawn
#

GOD

zealous karma
#

I also like his staggering 4 grid more

nocturne pawn
keen jasper
#

No Sp. Def. buff?

rotund lagoon
#

This is Sonia VolknerDed

nocturne pawn
#

yeah because yknow

#

impotent

#

im joking but seriously its so frustrating

keen jasper
#

My Sycamore got hit for 926 on Lucian's Psychic with +6 Sp. Def. post sync SycamorePanic

nocturne pawn
#

wait what

#

how the

quaint solar
#

What's a Winning team for Aaron R2?

nocturne pawn
#

oh post

keen jasper
rotund lagoon
#

Still a lot

nocturne pawn
#

yeah i was like 926 on sycamore with +6 is insane

keen jasper
#

And Lucian had +0 Sp. Atk.

nocturne pawn
#

post makes more sense

nocturne pawn
#

what the hell is this dude’s spatk

keen jasper
#

Power on Hit is very painful

rotund lagoon
nocturne pawn
#

oh maybe 2/5 aaron would work

#

he doesnt have staggering though

#

so that could be an issue

rotund lagoon
keen jasper
keen jasper
quaint solar
weak sequoia
#

Ok I finished putting in all my units in the trackerAshGoodGrief

rotund lagoon
#

Seems to be base

nocturne pawn
#

bruh

rotund lagoon
keen jasper
#

Oh Holy Mary of Christ

weak sequoia
nocturne pawn
#

they’re filtering for stars

weak sequoia
#

Oh

nocturne pawn
#

naomi and cynthia seem to be the only 5* they have

#

cynthia should work with hilbert or someone adjacent to that

weak sequoia
#

I only have three ground in all though lol

nocturne pawn
#

i have 4

#

still missing courtney

#

sigh

rotund lagoon
#

Yeah Ground F2P is not the best. Courtney is gen pool

keen jasper
#

Oh wow, with the parameters I put in my F2P clear, Lucian has 3599 Sp. Atk. overall

formal vigil
#

courtney+bertha

zealous karma
#

I love using Aaron for staggering

weak sequoia
#

I wasted my tickets for phobe today and got Lisia to 3/5. Was gonna save them for anni till I remembered hoenn VA rerun this month

nocturne pawn
#

maybe i have to get rid of power on hit

#

that shit hurts

zealous karma
#

Yes

nocturne pawn
#

also my bugsy cant be powered up

#

not enough to 4*

zealous karma
#

He doesn’t need it lel

quaint solar
zealous karma
#

His attack stat is really high he only needs grid

weak sequoia
#

I don't have any four star tickets because they are being used to get my Ex's

nocturne pawn
#

this is gonna be a lot of resetting for sonia mpr isnt it

zealous karma
rotund lagoon
nocturne pawn
#

and i ruined it by missing a move on the third turn

#

great job me

zealous karma
nocturne pawn
#

also he doesnt raise his attack

zealous karma
#

Sonia does

quaint solar
nocturne pawn
#

🗿

noble plaza
#

Is Aaron's round physically defensive?

zealous karma
#

You’re really underestimating bugsy

rotund lagoon
zealous karma
keen jasper
#

Oh Aaron

quaint solar
rotund lagoon
#

Are you wanting to use Cynthia or Maxie since you have both? You need someone with weather.

formal vigil
#

or use gradual healing param

noble plaza
#

I tried with Cynthia and Garchomp and it did a lot less damage than I thought it would

zealous karma
#

Dawn doesn’t buff speed

rotund lagoon
zealous karma
#

Oh

nocturne pawn
#

he has acute senses but you can cheese it by taking gradual healing parameter

rotund lagoon
#

But you should not use her with Cynthia, no synergy and it is a physical stage.

zealous karma
#

Oh that’s right

#

Pichu forgor

weak sequoia
#

Did I mess up by having bug and ground weak last for CS?

zealous karma
grand steppe
noble plaza
zealous karma
#

What’s your team Nyla?

#

Ground can be a rough type for newer players unless you pulled for Cynthia and or have Courtney

noble plaza
#

I tried Accerola, Cynthia+Garchomp, and Bertha (Might replace Accerola with someone else and just do post sync)

#

I have Ingo too if that matters

zealous karma
#

Acerola and Bertha is a little bit redundant you could swap out one of them for a real support

#

Do you have any supp Ex available

noble plaza
#

thats fair

rotund lagoon
#

I’d use Bertha over Acerola

noble plaza
#

yeah this is r1

zealous karma
#

Bertha sets sand 3+ times

weak sequoia
#

Which is better to do for round 3 compared to 4. When I only have ground and bug left?

zealous karma
#

Oh round one I’d try water round one

formal vigil
#

why not ingo?

noble plaza
zealous karma
#

You could try a quick setup Kris sync or could try to 3KO with Cyrus I may be biased with the kris suggestion but I’m not sure if yours is 3/5

rotund lagoon
#

Aaron himself is physical

noble plaza
#

...did the params in the CS mastermode sheet change?

nocturne pawn
#

2.5k added new ones

noble plaza
#

I noticed they changed the Tank Friendly and Masochist names SophoKEK

rotund lagoon
#

Yeah we added new ones as soon as 2.5k rolled around

rotund lagoon
weak sequoia
#

Who should I use against Aaron? Only own 3 ground type and I used may for water.

quaint solar
#

Nvm rng finally came in clutch

rotund lagoon
rotund lagoon
noble plaza
#

I messed with my preset a bit last night and I wanted to check the sheet and I noticed some stuff doesn't match up. I had Max HP ^ 2 but that wasn't checked on the sheet

weak sequoia
#

So any tapus?

quaint solar
weak sequoia
#

Or Bertha?

weak sequoia
#

Or is that not weather

rotund lagoon
grand steppe
rotund lagoon
noble plaza
weak sequoia
#

Well I was doing Bertha,clay, and NC bede for free moves which wasn't really helping

rotund lagoon
#

I would not use Clay tbh
You can try poison stalling too

grand steppe
nocturne pawn
#

bro the fucking focus blast got spdef drop then lucian queued psychic

#

i hate this shit ass giraffe

noble plaza
#

seeing all these people struggle with Lucian makes me feel almost bad for having the sc subway bros

weak sequoia
#

Would Ex mega gio be good for dd?

#

Or not since I already have pyschic?

keen jasper
nocturne pawn
#

dude psychic is legit a run ender

#

cuz it chunks sonia too hard

keen jasper
#

What even is your team?

nocturne pawn
#

tried this with sonia and aaron but they die too quickly

#

cant get to second sync

#

💀

keen jasper
#

Have you used Sycamore?

zealous karma
#

Rip crit buffs for Joan’s

noble plaza
#

for Flint round 1 should I use Cyrus or Nessa?

zealous karma
#

Noland

keen jasper
nocturne pawn
#

also funny how joan came from noland

grand steppe
zealous karma
#

Every turn mathera for Noland fury cutter

#

No way runner reference

north crown
#

wow hilda can offtype like that? never knew

keen jasper
#

I off-typed ghost-weak Lucian last week

nocturne pawn
zealous karma
#

I on typed lucian with shauntal

nocturne pawn
#

cuz of rebuff + sun

#

who i dont have

#

so that gets thrown out the window

noble plaza
#

im pretty sure i used Mega Mewtwo EX for ghost lucian

nocturne pawn
#

i think silver could work

grand steppe
#

well the other footage was vs aaron, with Elesa + Luxray

nocturne pawn
zealous karma
#

I like recoil

grand steppe
nocturne pawn
#

but i use ss hau instead so i dont have to do it myself

grand steppe
#

well we added -2 sync countdown & -3 countdown options to the MM sheet, if you have strong striker exs
You can also do it with a tech + dps with strong move

keen jasper
#

I'm surprised Solgaleo can off-type ghost-weak Lucian very well

nocturne pawn
#

its basically a rehash of hilda’s kit right

keen jasper
keen jasper
#

Like I mainly use both -1 and -2 sync on my F2P clears whenever there's half sync

grand steppe
#

it's in the sheet that's pinned

keen jasper
tribal agate
#

the very first link

grand steppe
#

On-Type Low Bulk -3 Sync

tribal agate
#

oh the preset

weak sequoia
#

I have defeated AaronAshGoodGrief

keen jasper
#

Hmmmm ok then

grand steppe
#

you may have to scroll to the right to see it

weak sequoia
#

This was my very questionable team

keen jasper
#

Hey at least, you filled in 3 types

#

That's 13/18 now

weak sequoia
#

I already had two of those types

noble plaza
weak sequoia
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That's what makes It bad

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So how many types are you at right now on the medal?

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Let me look

keen jasper
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So, currently 11/18

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How many more E4s remaining?

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Just the Lucian one

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okay ss misty is too frail to tank Flint

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And need next week to unlock master mode

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mastermode

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Don't listen to me than

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Who should I use against Lucian for round 4?

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I don't have subway butlers before any asks

keen jasper
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May, Nessa, and SS Misty was the original plan

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but I may need to swap either may or misty out

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Well good luck

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you too

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i even changed the param that gave tech units x3 damage PrycePain

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grand steppe
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You could go with etiher guzma or lusa, it's physical oriented, so you'd wanna use Lussa Lunge instead of Bug Buzz