Champion Stadium

[proud axle]

1/5 Cynthia can vaporize the enemy practically by herself, 2500

The other two are just there for sync countdown

If not doing this on round 1, Cynthia's postsync Shadow Ball can be replaced with her second Ghost Wish

[weak sleet]

Yeah she just destroys the stage

Even lunala does

[snow shell]

I used SSR Cynthia, Morty and Lodge Acerola and just spammed Phantom/Shadow Force after turn 2. Funniest team ever

[swift swan]

can confirm I beat 3,250 Lucian with Gladion!

with EX and super powered 3 and Red and support EX and SEUP and

[dark osprey]

Just to add. Should definitely go pre sync. If sync countdown issue, can use an EX support or a defense debuffer to deny the left. Can use Shauntal or Gio probably instead of Ani Lillie since easier on gauge

[zealous karma]

Imagine getting supports

(Im not mad)

[dark osprey]

So that Shauntal and Agatha aren't left out

[versed meteor]

Base morty is actually not as terrible as i thought for lucian

[rigid flint]

I actually forgot base Morty existed

[fringe valve]

What perameters were you using here?

[bronze onyx]

Phys shield
Special shield
Atk 1
Def 1
No status
No interference
Strike damage x3
Tech damage x3
Strength 1
Sync buff 5
Atk 3
No stat drops
Ally healing half
Power on hit 1
Physical damage reduction
Regen
Atk 5
Strength 2
Sync Countdown 2
Half HP
Power on Hit 2
Gauge -2

I often do Sync Countdown -1 and -2, but I needed one extra hit in against Wise Entry x2

[umbral crow]

Need help to create team for hard mode cs to fill out medals

[stuck dagger]

I assume you completed normal mode already?

[umbral crow]

Yeah

[undone ether]

• stares *

[umbral crow]

Normal is the kanto right

[undone ether]

uhm no.

[stuck dagger]

Not really

[umbral crow]

Eh

[grave wyvern]

are you trying to fill out the Sinnoh medal?

[undone ether]

VS Sinnoh is more likeit.

[umbral crow]

Yeah

[undone ether]

well then.

[umbral crow]

I aim to unlock it on second week

[stuck dagger]

I think you can forget about 12.5k with those pairs honestly

[undone ether]

unlock master mode you mean?

[grave wyvern]

okay, so check the weaknesses for this week

[stuck dagger]

But to unlock master mode

[grave wyvern]

do you have a damage dealer for all those types?

[stuck dagger]

sure

[umbral crow]

I dont have poison, and ghost is kinda lacking with morty base

[stuck dagger]

He has red and gio for psychic, ss erika and adaman for grass

I'd say for the poison cynthia stage you may need to brute force it with irida

[umbral crow]

Yeah i need the team that can both fill medal and support dps

Thats the hard part

[stuck dagger]

I have to ask though, why are so many of your pairs lvl 1?

[umbral crow]

Never really used them because adaman can easily do most of battles

[grave wyvern]

what i like to do with medal unlocks is physically write down all the types

so i choose my damage dealer for each stage, cross out those types, and see how i can pad the rest of my teams

[stuck dagger]

Have you unlocked any types for the medals yet?

[umbral crow]

No this is my first

[stuck dagger]

Ok, hang on

[toxic cobalt]

You don’t need to get 15 types, just get as many as you can

[swift swan]

do what Tai said

pick the damage dealers, build around them

worry about types later

[stuck dagger]

What are the stats for your skyla?

[swift swan]

you need 2 weeks anyway

just getting 9 or 10 types this week should be fine

[grave wyvern]

you're definitely going to want to level up Giovanni, to start

he will handle Flint for you

[swift swan]

God i keep forgetting we have both psychc and ghost this week

[stuck dagger]

Looking at his roster, he'd want to level up red, gio, sycamore

[toxic cobalt]

Bad ghost

[grave wyvern]

yeah it's a tough combo for newer players

[stuck dagger]

ghost poison is the tougher part tbh

[swift swan]

it's like when steel and fighting overlap!

[stuck dagger]

at leat f2p has gio

[umbral crow]

Ghost-Morty
Fire-Red/Silver
Grass-Adaman/Erika
Psychic-Gio
Cynthia-Irida?

[toxic cobalt]

There are many f2p poison pairs, it’s more a question of how many resources are available for investment

[grave wyvern]

they do have Plumeria for worst-case scenario

[rigid flint]

You could def off type Cynthia with Irida

[toxic cobalt]

Usually we stick with one striker, but this is good

[grave wyvern]

looking good! you definitely won't need Erika's help, Adaman should have Bertha sorted

[stuck dagger]

Guess we'll build teams around that

[umbral crow]

Should i use Gio and Bianca tho since they are both psychic?

[grave wyvern]

if you can't clear Flint without Psychic terrain, yes

keep her in your back pocket

[umbral crow]

And one of parameter boost zone

[stuck dagger]

If you just wanna beat it, yes, but if you want to min-max your medal gains this week, no

[umbral crow]

So who for first fight?

[toxic cobalt]

Grass weak

[umbral crow]

Do weather count as zone?

[stuck dagger]

Yes

[umbral crow]

*field effect

[grave wyvern]

yes

[toxic cobalt]

Not a zone but both are field effects

[tired sleet]

To this, yes

[grave wyvern]

weather and zone are both field effects

[stuck dagger]

Correct ,they last for infinity, so do grass weak first

[toxic cobalt]

You want weather though to cancel out Bertha sandstorm

[umbral crow]

Adaman can cancel it on entry right?

[grave wyvern]

yes

your sun will override her sand

[stuck dagger]

I personally suggest Syca+Adaman+random pair to fill up medal

[grave wyvern]

i wouldn't waste Sycamore there

you could slap in two random pairs, adaman alone should carry

(this is where a physical type list comes in handy, Satoru - so you can work out which ones you need to shove in places)

it's always good to put one of your weakest types with an OP pair

[umbral crow]

Should i slap bertha and plum?

[stuck dagger]

Not plum

[grave wyvern]

i would choose a normal-type, or a type that you don't have at 5*

something that will be very hard to use

[swift swan]

against bertha, you just need a physical tank that can buff defense

[grave wyvern]

yup

she's physical

she hits hard but when you take her sand, she weakens a lot

[umbral crow]

Alright, cheryl adaman and bertha?

Or is cheryl useful

[swift swan]

i'd probably go sonia or piers

[stuck dagger]

I personally say piers

[swift swan]

cheryl has shit physical defense anyway

[tired sleet]

Probably easier to save cheryl for cynthia if you’ll use cheryl at all

[swift swan]

i think she will fold

[toxic cobalt]

I think it makes more sense to build teams without adaman and then see what types are left

[tired sleet]

Cheryl tanks Cynthia like a beast, but dies to anyone else

[grave wyvern]

[stuck dagger]

Sonia has a lot more utility, I'd rather leave her for another stage where she'd be more useful

[tired sleet]

Cheryl + Koga + Poisoner is an easy clear for a poison weak stage like Cynthia for example

[swift swan]

it's a 1/5 sonia so no crit, gotta keep that in mind

[grave wyvern]

this is good advice - let's try to get all 5 planned out, and Adaman can carry two others

[swift swan]

so we agree giovanni is on flint, yeah?

[umbral crow]

Oh i see

[toxic cobalt]

Koga with additional effects field parameter doesn’t need a poisoner

[grave wyvern]

yeah Gio makes the most sense

[tired sleet]

But then he’s not attacking

[umbral crow]

What support does morty need?

[grave wyvern]

satoru how are your level-up items going? can you afford to 120 a few pairs?

[stuck dagger]

Not like they'd need a poisoner if the original plan for cytnhai goes through (brute force offtype with Irida)

[swift swan]

they still need a status condition to cancel out healthy advantage 4

[umbral crow]

910 diamond one and 600 yellow one

[tired sleet]

Why waste top tier units like irida when you can clear it easily with uncommonly used pairs

[stuck dagger]

ok that's more than enough

[grave wyvern]

start with Giovanni

you'll need him for Flint

[toxic cobalt]

Honestly Morty doesn’t need much he’s pretty self budding

[swift swan]

probably a faster attack buffer

he handles crit by himself

[tired sleet]

Is it 1/5 morty or 3/5? Cuz he buffs blind slot slowly

[stuck dagger]

More attack buffers

[umbral crow]

2/5

[grave wyvern]

hop is at lvl100

[stuck dagger]

2/5

[grave wyvern]

could be a good option too

[toxic cobalt]

Run hop then

[swift swan]

Hop + morty + filler

or would hop be better on someone else

[tired sleet]

If you have a good amount of orbs take blind spot on morty

[umbral crow]

I have 18k orb

Copp one

Morty is the only phy attacker beside adaman here

[toxic cobalt]

Hop is good, move on to Giovanni

[grave wyvern]

Gio can handle his own crit, so you need a spatk buffer

[umbral crow]

Like syca?

[grave wyvern]

who do you have who buffs Spatk, do you think?

Sycamore is a good choice

there's also Falkner, for faster buffs

[tired sleet]

(By that tai means use the filter for “support” and “buffs spatk”)

[grave wyvern]

[umbral crow]

Well lets eee

Elio glacia syca is the 5*

[toxic cobalt]

What about the other stars

[grave wyvern]

Cheryl can buff Spatk

and will fill a rare type

[umbral crow]

Cheryl roxanne and lunatone

[toxic cobalt]

As rare as Roxannnnneeee?

[umbral crow]

But id need to grid her mp refresh then?

[toxic cobalt]

Nah +4 will do it

[umbral crow]

Then whos the third?

[toxic cobalt]

Anyone really, the team is solid

[grave wyvern]

a defensive buffer/tank would be nice

someone who can soak hits while gio sweeps

sonia could be a good choice if you don't need her elsewhere

[umbral crow]

Yeah ig i dont need her except for morty

[grave wyvern]

that or piers, since i'm not seeing any other dark types (but he's a crit-buffer, he may be needed elsewhere)

[umbral crow]

Now to aaron

Red is pretty self sufficient so he can carry other 2 team right?

[grave wyvern]

he's v good, yeah

[stuck dagger]

probably

[tired sleet]

As long as they’re decent tanks, then yes

[grave wyvern]

have you been recording who is going on what team? so we don't get lost

[tired sleet]

+pomatools says that Aaron’s CS stage has some decently strong physical moves, so someone who can buff defence is good
This website has all the CS kits so it’s pretty good for getting an idea of what kinda units you should play

[frozen depot]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs

[umbral crow]

Lucian: Morty-Hop-Kukui
Bertha:Adaman-....
Flint:Gio-Cheryl-Sonia
Aaron: Red-.......

[toxic cobalt]

I suggest Skyla to help with speed and tick off flying

[stuck dagger]

maybe bring sonia or skyla

[grave wyvern]

Skyla is a good choice, yeah

[umbral crow]

Ig red-skyla-elio then

Elio to fill water

[grave wyvern]

you do have Hilbert, if you need speed/atk elsewhere rather than using Elio

[tired sleet]

I’m assuming SS Red is move level 1?

[umbral crow]

Yeah

[stuck dagger]

He does buff spatk faster so maybe

[umbral crow]

From select

Now only adaman and irida left

[toxic cobalt]

Adaman you could genuinely just use hapu or something

[grave wyvern]

yeah he'll sweep very easily

pick your two weakest types and slot some pairs in

[stuck dagger]

let's tackle Irida first I guess

[tired sleet]

Irida, Janine, and some rando +2 spatk unit would work against cynthia if you don’t want to level up one of the numerous poison types the game gives you for free

[stuck dagger]

They have plumeria anyways

[tired sleet]

Wait actually gridless janine doesn’t have great poison chances either
Use Koga or someone with Poison Fang

[umbral crow]

This?

[toxic cobalt]

With additional effects all things are possible

[toxic cobalt]

Looks good! Bertha first

[grave wyvern]

good luck!

(remember to level up the damage dealers at least!)

[umbral crow]

Thanks guys!

[stuck dagger]

Wait, last thing we need to decide is the order the E4 are challenged in

[toxic cobalt]

~~Lv1 Giovanni poggers ~~

[stuck dagger]

And also, level up all your pairs to like 120 or something

[tired sleet]

To mitigate rng you may want someone like koga instead of janine (but janine’s debuffs are still neat)
Since Cynthia takes less dmg when not statused

[umbral crow]

Havent done koga yet

[toxic cobalt]

That’s fine just do these!

Remember to triple queue and sync

[tired sleet]

Janine would work too even without grid (just remember to take the round 4 parametet against cynthia)

[keen jasper]

Your levels tho

[grave wyvern]

they're on it

[umbral crow]

Lvl 1 maylene goes brr

Anyway whos the second fight?

[stuck dagger]

did you actually do the fight with lvl 1 maylene
I'd say maybe Lucian?

[umbral crow]

"stat lowering effect have greater effect than normal for allies and opponents"
Do this means i drop -2 instead -1

Its 3rd params

[tired sleet]

It just makes the individual debuff have a stronger % reduction effect

[stuck dagger]

The debuffs debuff more

[umbral crow]

That means i will save 3rd for morty and kukui then

[stuck dagger]

As for second

[umbral crow]

I guess aaron since gio can benefit from 4th params

[tired sleet]

Be careful fighting flint 4th, he burns even more often

[toxic cobalt]

Nice edit

[umbral crow]

Do flint have aoe moves?

[tired sleet]

+pomatools says no, except for the moves that sides use after mid is taken out

[toxic cobalt]

Luckily Cheryl and Sonia both have heals

[frozen depot]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs

[stuck dagger]

I was actually going to suggest flint for second because more heals

[tired sleet]

If you press “menu” in this site you can select Champion Stadium to see all their kits, it’s really handy

[tired sleet]

Yeah, and since he capitalizes from both r3 (stronger spdef debuffs) and r4 (more burns)

But tbh even without r4 flint still burns almost all the time, so not much difference

[stuck dagger]

I swear flint had a CS stage where he used iron head and oneshot the support pair I was using...

[tired sleet]

No flints have iron head
The right on water weak flint has iron tail ig

[stuck dagger]

I'll need to check the CS history

Nvm found the iron head stage, was actualy last week's CS

And from Molayne

[umbral crow]

wait i have a things to do first, so ill do it later.
thanks for help anyway

[umbral crow]

Finally finished it, revised it abit because Gio was struggling too hard

[swift swan]

14 types, that's really good

[grand trout]

will there be any entry x2 this upcoming week?

[old orchid]

Bug and Fairy weak have Wise Entry x2

[grand trout]

oh

i havent exed mina yet!

[main crow]

Tbf her ex is coming on pomas day

[old orchid]

She already has been EXable since last PMD

This month PMD EX is Roxie

[main crow]

OH legit forgot roxie is a thing and she's getting ex

[old orchid]

[swift swan]

Gonna have my revenge on cynthia finally

[tame gust]

Fairy weak with WEx2 is such a troll move lmao

[nocturne pawn]

it is

it was meant for grimmsnarl

and now ny lisia shits all over it but oops all limited

[old orchid]

[dark osprey]

Would love to see Mina EX in action. Can probably just use the dps to keep the sides in ohko range

[keen jasper]

TheGamingEevee intensifies

[woven pebble]

Wow its so awesome, u have potential pro future lvl player.
Here me still struggling in this game (tho its only 10 months) i started...😳😅 Its so embarassing fme

[keen silo]

Don't be too harsh on yourself

Sinnoh/Hoenn is the hardest 2 CS

imo

[old orchid]

feel free to ask in help channels if you need help

[sinful garden]

who even are our physical bug options

[formal vigil]

Bugsy noaland

Sc emmet and ingo

[swift swan]

lunge lusamine

guzma

[formal vigil]

Gladion

[swift swan]

last time I beat Bug-weak Lucian with Guzma/EX Hilbert/EX Lusamine and I will do it again

but I have ss hilbert now so it'll be easier

[old orchid]

Bugsy will do the job for me

i just slap in Aaron and Lunge Lusamine

Lusamine is the best physical Bug dps in gen pool

[swift swan]

i should try bugsy more often

he impressed me last LG

[old orchid]

you should

his nuke is amazing and its easy to set up

like just click his TM twice

[swift swan]

i guess i'm traumatized by evasion-based mutlipliers thanks to Morty

i was so surprised bugsy's nuke is very easy to set up

[sinful garden]

ok offtyping it is

not going to bother using bugsy

[toxic cobalt]

Why offtype when you have Bugsy?

[sinful garden]

because id have to invest in him so itd take less time to just offtype it

(im lazy)

not like i lack the units for offtyping either

[swift swan]

that's fair if you're still lacking materials to invest in units

[sinful garden]

im not i have over 100k sync orbs im just extremely lazy

[swift swan]

i've reached a point where i've uncapped and leveled all my units to 140 and have them all gridded

[sinful garden]

actually i might see if alder can brute force through it before offtyping

[old orchid]

im pretty sure Bugsy will clear faster than Alder

[dark osprey]

Bugsy seems like the best physical bug nuker other than the bug subway bros right?

[mellow linden]

Iirc Noland is roughly on par

So you can pick between the 2

[dark osprey]

I guess I would go for bugsy just for the guaranteed crit

But who would be the better physical dps from the rest though. Lunge Lusamine?

[mellow linden]

She’s one of the better options, yeah. Fury Cutter spam on Noland can also work

[keen silo]

lusamine is my only bug DPS

might be screwed

[mellow linden]

Bugsy and Noland erasure

[rotund lagoon]

[formal vigil]

would 3/5 6 ex ss hilbert still do fine on bug week lucian despite wise entry x2

[tired sleet]

I’m almost certain

[junior crown]

well, he can debuff sp def, so +2 can always be lowered by him (or someone else)

[formal vigil]

?

[tired sleet]

You’re mixing up Wise Entry 2 and Wise Entry X 2

Wise Entry X 2 doubles the base spdef, so crits and debuffs won’t exactly be a simple counter

[junior crown]

oh sorry, still should be enough debuffing the middle

[zinc island]

I don't think with that roaster you can master mode sinnoh champion stadium its one of the hardest.

Oh its hard mode not master mode by bad you definetely got what it takes then just gotta level up some more pairs.

[swift swan]

-6 sp defense and bug rebuff. I'm sure ss hilbert can hold his ground

[sand karma]

It'd be nice to have an infographic like the ones for the special stadium for the newer stadia
It's so hard to keep track of the entries

I bulldozed fairy weak last time with SSWally
Maybe I'll add Mina this time to spice it up

[old orchid]

No need to do that because you can see the info of each CS stage on pomatools site

[sand karma]

I know I'm just saying

[tired sleet]

We can’t know the stage params for regular CS before they come out, so it’d have to be made every week

[old orchid]

That too

[zealous karma]

Wait is there a special CS coming up?

[sand karma]

I meant just the passives of course

[tired sleet]

It’s ice weak with champ marnie

[sand karma]

Ground weak Aaron looks like it's made for Bertha

[zealous karma]

Oh I forgot about that I thought it already happened

[old orchid]

Are you too lazy to click a few buttons?

[zealous karma]

It was prolly made for maxie

[tired sleet]

Maxie doesn’t have trap tho

[old orchid]

How about both?

[zealous karma]

Cause I think the sinnoh e4 all came out on the final week of sinnoh CS

[zealous karma]

Zerena

[tired sleet]

I could spend 5 hours looking through the news tab to find ground week aaron’s tips

[zealous karma]

You could

[sand karma]

Clear sync up + acute senses

[sand karma]

Nailed it

[tired sleet]

Doing it right now

If anyone else needs the game’s awful tips then here

https://pokemonmasters-game.com/en-US/announcements?cursor=a883a2af6d08afa4

[mellow linden]

What’s funny is that the team they recommend for it is actually not terrible, though Ingo is kinda wasted

[tired sleet]

Ig it really wants gauge

[mellow linden]

Also, flashback to the funny times when they recommended SS Giovanni for like 2-3 stages before he’d even released

[tired sleet]

It’s not nearly as bad as some of the old kanto recommendations
Like viola vs blue

[mellow linden]

At least she had innate Sync modifier

[tired sleet]

Dark weak Lucian recommends Piers, Faitlin, and Filbert

Wth ice weak bertha wants you to use Nessanta, Bealuxe, and HoLeon Piers

[mellow linden]

There are worse options, but they really like to shove monotype teams for some reason

[tired sleet]

“Piers is good cause he can buff defence with obstruct”

[mellow linden]

Speaking of Dark weak Lucian, I imagine that stage is cowering in fear of its upcoming Greninjas + SC Zinnia run

[zealous karma]

That’s a fine team in all honesty shortens Furburt setup by a lot but at the same time you’re losing a lot of fire power

[mellow linden]

Cobalion’d be better than Piers

Reliable Defense debuffs and can keep the gauge accel going

[tired sleet]

“Piers can defend against dire hit + with obstruct”

[mellow linden]

after using a Sync Move

I see DeNA thinks the stage will last beyond their Sync Move

[tired sleet]

Wait there’s smth better

Water Weak Flint:
Use Lana, SS Grimsley, and SS Misty

That’s really what they were thinking when making that spatk debuffing stage

[mellow linden]

Wack

[tired sleet]

I forgor that ss gio never misses; that’s why poison weak cynthia has evasion rush

[sand karma]

Why both SSGrim and SSMisty

[tired sleet]

SS Misty is being used as a tech to remove enemy buffs and protect from debuffs

SS Grims is the damage dealer, since they debuff SpAtk

[sand karma]

Isn't SSGrim physical anyway?

Or are the suggestions not team suggestions just pairs

[tired sleet]

Yes lmao, but they debuff spatk on entry too, as well as mind games 9 on the sides

They also have rising tide, and misty can completely remove that

[sand karma]

Ah rising tide yes

[swift swan]

that's how he was announced. through CS tips. how lame

[swift swan]

imagine letting the opponent use dire hit+ after sync move

[swift swan]

they made one stage for SS Misty just to make her see some use

[old orchid]

Japanese went crazy after seeing these recommended team (they dont follow datamine)

[zealous karma]

Wait why did they expect like reruns or was ssgio accidentally”leaked@

[old orchid]

Dena accidentally leaked him

because he wasnt released until after 2 - 3 weeks

[zealous karma]

lel

[swift swan]

ss giovanni was supposed to be released some time that week, but CS was on Monday and he was revealed through that before his trailer

[clever bronze]

What order should I do 12.5k csmm? @zealous karma

R1- Bertha
R2- Aaron
R3- Lucian
R4- Flint

thinking about this

[old orchid]

you can do in any order, just avoid fighting Flint on R3 and R4

[clever bronze]

Shiet

[old orchid]

can do either Lucian or Bertha on R3

[zealous karma]

Round 4 flint has a 100% burn chance

[clever bronze]

R1- Bertha
R2- Flint
R3- Lucian
R4- Aaron

Man bertha is too easy

might be wasting perma field effects

Lucian, Flint, Bertha, Aaron

[toxic cobalt]

[grim island]

Hi! I'm trying to win against Cynthia (current team: Janine, SS Leaf, Sycamore) but her Togekiss has Healthy Advantage which I feel doesn't let me poison her 🤔
Is this correct?

[old orchid]

no

Healthy Advantage reduces damage taken if the user doesnt have status condition

you are just unlucky

btw did you turn on No Status Condition param by accident?

[grim island]

No not at all, only no interfearance is turned on

[old orchid]

is that a stall param?

doesnt look like it

if you want to stall, check the pins for recommended param sets

[grim island]

Yeah I think stall might be easier. Where's the pin? I don't see it here so I guess it's in another channel?

[old orchid]

every channel has a pin at the top of the bar

[toxic cobalt]

#1009554906568462476 message

[old orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/pins-gif-20404399

[toxic cobalt]

These seem strange parameters !

[grim island]

Okay apparently I missed Dreamy's pinned message x)

It worked with the rexommended stall params, thanks!

[swift swan]

updated! good params except r1

updated

[verbal karma]

Okay, before I do anything else: who to pick for the R1 gimmick?

Or in other words: who's the least dangerous R1 pick?

[swift swan]

it seems all are shit in some ways

aaron and bertha buff team crit by 1
lucian buffs his own crit by 2
flint sets up stat reduction shield which means he can't be debuffed for around one sync cycle. this isn't dangerous if you remove his buffs before he sets this up though. and it's pretty likely that at half sync countdown, Flint won't have much time buffing anyway

verdict: flint r1 seems to be the least shitty if you're planning to postsync

[verbal karma]

Thanks, will try that then

[keen jasper]

R1 is just use YOLO parameters

[verbal karma]

...my team can't survive R1 Flint even on post-sync 😦

[swift swan]

what's the team

i imagine flint's sync will still hurt if any of his stats are buffed

[verbal karma]

Archie/May/Torchic

[swift swan]

so take that into account

torchic? replace it with a special defense buffer maybe

[verbal karma]

Okay, will do

Alright, done!

Now...Aaron or Bertha for R2?

...actually, better question

Who outside of Flint has the lowest Sp. Def?

[swift swan]

eh, aaron and bertha are equal

[keen jasper]

Well, I got lucky on my F2P clear on R1 Flint

The only RNG is critting Flint with Barry's sync

[swift swan]

while fighting Lucian R3 can help your special bug damage dealers, I think it'll be a double-edged sword since Lucian uses special attacks too

[full mesa]

Apparently Sycamore/Hilbert/Mina (non ex) can do Cynthia with half sync parameter.

[verbal karma]

Well, the only special bug damage dealers I have are Alder (1/5), Viola (4/5), Burgh (5/5) and Lusamine (5/5)

Here are ALL of my bug type strikes and techs

I guess there's also Gladion if you wanna count that

[verbal karma]

So what would be preferable for Lucian with my collection of bug type strikes and techs, physical or special?

[keen jasper]

Well, Lucian has Wise Entry x2

[verbal karma]

...okay, R3 Lucian seems counter-intuitive then...

...okay, I definitely will go with R4 Lucian, so the big question is: R2 Aaron or R2 Bertha?

R2 Aaron would benefit Cynthia while R2 Bertha would benefit Ghetsis

...regrettably, my Cynthia is only 1/5...how bad is that?

[swift swan]

needs heavy support

[verbal karma]

You mean, like

More than just Sandstorm?

[keen jasper]

Damn, took a while for me to figure out Bertha's team

[fiery canopy]

aight new week
should i fight a certain person on a certain round or does it not matter

[rigid flint]

If you have a good nuker for Ice (e.g. Hala) I'd do round 1 against Bertha

[verbal karma]

I already did Round 1 against Flint, tho

[rigid flint]

Oh that's fine I'm just suggesting to clover

[keen jasper]

Well, my F2P clear for this week is recorded

[trail smelt]

Phew easy week surprisingly lol

New and improved fairy team had no trouble at all

The only difficulty I had was bug and that’s as because I kept choosing the wrong parameters, realize it in the first turn, quit to fix it, only to realize something else is also wrong

Easy next week hopefully

[verbal karma]

Oh

...shoot, still can't decide between R2 Aaron or R2 Bertha 😦

[keen jasper]

Gonna off-type Cynthia?

[sinful garden]

so who's recommended for R1

half sync countdowns in sinnoh is scary

[verbal karma]

Depending on who I pick for R2, those would be my candidates for R3

[keen jasper]

Well, my only recommendation to you is use YOLO parameters, the parameters without and HP or strength parameters

[sinful garden]

ight

[verbal karma]

Cynthia and Ghetsis are my candidates for R2 Aaron and R2 Bertha respectivelly, btw

[old orchid]

Irida Ghetsis Sycamore, or a gauge support if you cant use Sycamore

[rigid flint]

Use Hala and Irida for Round 3 then

Oh wait Round 3 is special moves being powered up

[trail smelt]

Round 1 I just let Cynthia crush Aaron into the ground like the bug that he is

[rigid flint]

Yeah do what Gakon suggested

[verbal karma]

for R2, right?

[rigid flint]

Nah do that Round 3

[grand trout]

man

[rigid flint]

R3 makes specia moves deal more damage

So use that against Bertha

[grand trout]

i never imagined i'd see the day mina would wreck cynthia

but here we are

[rigid flint]

Oh Mina does a lotta damage

[grand trout]

helped by the fact she has ss acerola lol

[rigid flint]

I remember using Mina back when Sinnoh CS first came out

[grand trout]

she didnt nuke cynthia

she just rough played her

[rigid flint]

Even without SS Acerola she should still do pretty well

[grand trout]

i also have scteven soo

yeah it's stacked

[fiery canopy]

would ghetsis work?

[grand trout]

yes but you need gauge help

and ofc a hail setter

[rigid flint]

Use Ghetsis in round 3

[verbal karma]

Oh...wait, do I have to use 1/5 Cynthia on R2 Aaron then?

[rigid flint]

What ground types do you have

Uhh

Probably better to use Naomi

Naomi, sand setter and an EX support

[verbal karma]

...wait, wouldn't Naomi be better for R3 then?

[rigid flint]

Well Bertha has Wise Entrty x2

[verbal karma]

Oh god

Lucian has that, too 😦

[rigid flint]

Oh wait

Bertha doesn't sorry

My mind is dumb

[formal vigil]

She doesn't

[verbal karma]

Oh

[rigid flint]

Uhh yeah swap them around then

Use Naomi on R3

[verbal karma]

Wait, what about Aaron?

Naomi would be used against Aaron

[rigid flint]

Aaron is just bulky

So yeah do Aaron on R3

[verbal karma]

Okay, thanks

[verbal karma]

...okay, no, Ghetsis/Irida/Sycamore isn't working out against R2 Bertha 😦

[undone ether]

hahahaha

i'm not

going to repeat this champion stadium

12,400 Points :X

[verbal karma]

...anyone knows any alternatives, perhaps?

[sinful garden]

does interference immunity make opponents immune to rebuffs too

[undone ether]

no/

[gritty nymph]

No

[keen jasper]

Bertha does mostly physical attacks

[sinful garden]

thank god

[undone ether]

I used Pal Bea, 3/5 Irida and Ghetsis

i mostly debuffed Bertha and her sides.

with Ghetsis' Noble Roar

I only synced once with Pal Bea and then Ghetsis.

the thing said that they do ATK up and whatnot so

Ghetsis is the right answer

[gritty nymph]

Bertha just took 1.5k from maxed out bp candice with sync buff 1 jeez

[undone ether]

i went with full offense (DEF+HP)

[keen jasper]

Do you have the Physical Damage Reduction 8 parameter?

[gritty nymph]

Nope

[verbal karma]

I don't have Pal Bea 😦

[keen jasper]

Well, you did change it

[gritty nymph]

And that terrifys me

[undone ether]

you need a DEF Tank.

[gritty nymph]

My parameters is all offense

[keen jasper]

Using what? Blizzard or sync?

[undone ether]

the other sync pair i would've used would've been Variety Lorelei

cuz she's an actual tank lol

DEF and can also drop enemy speed

since i'm not using Strikers, points for me mmhmm

[last palm]

Bruh why lucian is so strong

[keen jasper]

Because he is

[last palm]

[undone ether]

i went full offense as well.

nobody died at least kek

[gritty nymph]

Blizzard although I did see uncrit sync do 2k which was funny

[undone ether]

Yo Boy Guzma~

[undone ether]

who are you trying it with?

i went R4 with him

since i know my team can actually tank

so i just

attacked the sides first

and then flinch'd him and dropped 4-5 sync nukes with Guzma

[undone ether]

#1072120373858009088 message

[last palm]

he hit like a struck and tank multiple hit like nothing i tried Guzma (Ex) and sc Emmet

Usually emmet just 1 shot now he only do 11k (first hit) with 2 sync buff

[undone ether]

hum

i went 4-5 sync nukes so

yeah

i basically went to town on his sides.

[verbal karma]

Uuuuuugh

[undone ether]

that way his stats got dropped

[verbal karma]

R2 Bertha is done, but now R3 Aaron is giving me problems

[last palm]

bruh it has been so long since the last time i had to quadqueue and change parameter a bit

[undone ether]

haha CS does that

especially Sinnoh League :x

[verbal karma]

Even with full buffs, EX support sync buff AND sandstorm, Naomi simply doesn't hit hard enough

[last palm]

She need debuff too

[undone ether]

huh which one?

[formal vigil]

What's your team?

[undone ether]

which CS rather

wait you're trying to do Naomi against R2 Bertha?

dont do that lmao

[verbal karma]

My team for R3 Aaron is Leaf/Naomi/Bertha

[verbal karma]

No

I already did R2 Bertha

[formal vigil]

Why leaf?

[verbal karma]

I am doing R3 Aaron

[undone ether]

Oh against Aaron

[verbal karma]

Because she's EX'd?

[formal vigil]

Use a spak crit buffer

[undone ether]

uh

[formal vigil]

Like a ss Brendan or sabrina instead of her

[last palm]

i have Gio king so aaron die in 2 hit

[verbal karma]

I already used SS Brendan

and Sabrina doesn't have Adrenaline

and Adrenaline is a 100% requirement at this point

[formal vigil]

Can't quad que?

[verbal karma]

Exactly

[formal vigil]

Why

[verbal karma]

Bertha's sandstorm running out

[formal vigil]

Just reset bertha sand when it is about to go away

[verbal karma]

...no

That would be a waste of a Sandstorm

Which means I would have to rely on MPR luck

And I almost always have bad MPR luck

[swift swan]

you don't need that many sandstorms in the first place. just reapply sandstorm right before sync to save you the stress

or, if you're hell bent on not reapplying sandstorm, just pick up Adrenaline on Leaf, problem solved

[formal vigil]

What does leaf do on that team?

[verbal karma]

But I am already using Leaf with Adrenaline

People are asking me to replace Leaf

[swift swan]

then you should reach second sync with no problem

even without the quadqueue

[verbal karma]

I do reach second sync, but it sadly doesn't kill Aaron

[old orchid]

what team are you using? Bertha Leaf Naomi?

[verbal karma]

Yeah

[swift swan]

what's the grid on Naomi

remember to trap Aaron to deactivate Acute Senses (if you don't pick gradual healing parameter)

[swift swan]

hmmm doesn't seem like anything's wrong with it

sandstorm is up when you sync, right

[old orchid]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/65100/2800?s=3&l=140&r=3&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBhEUFxobIicoKSstLw

use this instead

you picked ANtitoxin which is useless

[swift swan]

you're not taking the top sync tile?

[old orchid]

not enough energy

[swift swan]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/65100/2800?s=3&l=140&r=3&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFERQXGhsnKCkrLS4v

[old orchid]

oh right just remove +5 spatk on the right side

[verbal karma]

Indeed

[swift swan]

give this a try

[last palm]

does rapidash has endure?

[sick inlet]

Endure appears as a circle with 1 inside of it beneath hp bars

And disappears after it reaches 1 hp

[last palm]

i guess i just unlucky

[verbal karma]

I hate bug-weak CS opponents!

[sinful garden]

bug weak lucian is annoying as fuck

i just offtype'd it in the end

him and steel weak glacia are my most hated cs stages

[old orchid]

yall dont know how to use Bugsy and Noland

[sinful garden]

why annoy myself with bugsy when i have the units to offtype and save myself the pain

its faster

[rigid flint]

Nobody's gonna use Bugsy and Noland honestly

[old orchid]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/651491885008945153/945636795218030642/pmex.gif

[last palm]

challenge accepted

[keen jasper]

I did use Noland on my F2P clear tho

[rigid flint]

I'll admit they're decent for f2p

But being honest not many people would be willing to use them

[toxic cobalt]

Aaron is clay proof I am sad

[toxic cobalt]

Bugsy is good and easy use Bugsy

[rigid flint]

Wouldn't Noland be better since he has Fury Cutter

[keen jasper]

His X-Scissors is better DPS IMO

[rigid flint]

Oh it is?

Interesting

[toxic cobalt]

Fury cutter build up is annoying

[rigid flint]

Ah

[toxic cobalt]

Much easier to just Bugsy nuke

[rigid flint]

Fair enuf

[toxic cobalt]

You can run both with Hilbert though if you want

[rigid flint]

Hilbert 🤝 Every physical dps

[last palm]

i mean if you have hilbert just run him alone not much different

[rigid flint]

I don't think Auroch's referring to SS Hilbert

[last palm]

Ah

[manic kiln]

dual dps bug is easy clear, nuke with bugsy and spam fury cutter with noland

[toxic cobalt]

Huh. Aaron gives himself gradual healing

[rigid flint]

Yep

[toxic cobalt]

Who programmed this

[rigid flint]

Very smart people

[full mesa]

But you have to wait until his sync.

[old orchid]

who came up with Lucian having 28k HP should be fired

[rigid flint]

Oh he has 28k hp?

[formal vigil]

Yes

[rigid flint]

I didn't even notice lmao

SC Emmet funni nuke go brr

[full mesa]

That's what I did. Morty BP/Kukui/SCEmmet on round 1.

[swift swan]

I ran lunge lusamine with help from ss hilbert

[versed meteor]

Mina gaming for Cynthia

I seriously don't know how tf people actually use her

[keen jasper]

I used her in my F2P clear

[zealous karma]

Wow this CS feels way easier than last weeks

[full mesa]

Sycamore/Hilbert/Mina

[wet gate]

what is the recommended order for this week?

[keen jasper]

It's more like you be careful who you face on round 1

[wet gate]

wdym?

[keen jasper]

Round 1 is half sync

[wet gate]

who should i avoid then?

[keen jasper]

Aaron, Bertha and Lucian buff their crit post-sync

[old orchid]

Be careful with everyone one R1
Dont fight Flint or Lucian on R3

[versed meteor]

This week is bullshit

I ain't even gonna attempt it anymore how tf is aaron crunch doing 1k damage what tf can tank that

[old orchid]

1. You chose too many attack params
2. He got boosted if there is no weather, so you need to setup any weather to tank more hits

[mellow linden]

Definitely sounds like a parameter/team issue, yeah

You have Bertha?

[old orchid]

Or Maxie, but i doubt you struggle using him

[keen jasper]

Clear passives mainly need a field active to be countered

Zone, weather or terrain

[versed meteor]

Ran bertha Cynthia and leaf

[old orchid]

[mellow linden]

Leaf does fairly little for that team, tbh

Way too long to set up

[old orchid]

Replace Leaf with an offensive support/physical tank

[keen jasper]

Was it the Kris EB that first introduced the Clear passive?

[mellow linden]

Hop's a free one, 2/5+ Aaron, 3/5+ Hilbert, 3/5+ Sonia, and 1/5+ Shauna are other options (though if Shauna is only 1/5 she'll want EX)

[rigid flint]

Mmm sure love Flint deleting my team in seconds

Decided to use Kris' sync first and she almost wiped the whole stage lmao

[wet gate]

I’m trying to do flint on round one but the sync move one shots my entire team

[swift swan]

#1011173305702690876 message like this

[swift swan]

what's ghetsis doing there

[old orchid]

for third slot, you should bring another dmg dealer, or someone that helps Calem unlocking B Move sooner

like nov said, Ghetsis being there is questionable

better saving him for Bertha

[zealous karma]

I find it a little difficult to believe flints even making it to sync Cyrus should be like 4 shotting the stage

Or maybe don’t do this on round one

[wet gate]

for attack and sp atk down

[old orchid]

do you have May?

[wet gate]

yes

[old orchid]

use her instead of Ghetsis

aim to pre sync clear

[wet gate]

ok

[wet gate]

i cant do 2 syncs before they do 1 becuase of the halved sync

[swift swan]

the idea is for May and Cyrus's DPS to be more than enough

what move level is May?

[old orchid]

i didnt say you have to sync twice

May move level doesnt matter, she is there for additional dps, early rain and help Calem unlocking B Move sooner

[swift swan]

i was thinking if you're having trouble taking down Flint before he syncs, May could take first sync instead of CCalem depending on move level

[mellow linden]

I gotta be honest, I don’t think Cyrus is the right move here considering Flint gives -2 Sp. Atk. at the start of the fight

[swift swan]

her nuke is lethal

[mellow linden]

Since this is half-Sync round

[wet gate]

3

[wet gate]

i did like 400 damamge with cyrus sync first

[manic kiln]

usually for this half sync parameter you use 2 dps, if you use 1 dps try to attack a few times and delay the sync for as long as you can and finally sync to delete the stage

[swift swan]

why sync with him? his sync is dragon and if you take standard dmg reduction parameter, of course he's gonna do shit

[old orchid]

dont sync with Cyrus

[swift swan]

use a hydro pump focused grid

[wet gate]

i also dont have any sync grid on may

[old orchid]

like i said above, she doesnt need grid

[wet gate]

ok

so may sync first

[swift swan]

to be fair most good water damage dealers are special. if they have Nessa we can try that but I don't think the debuffs are a huge deal with a team of ccalem, cyrus, and may

[wet gate]

ohh i forgot about that

[old orchid]

dont take too many strength and hp params when you are aiming for pre sync in half sync round

[mellow linden]

Nessa or 3/5 Kris, but yeah, fair enough

[old orchid]

Calem is bulky enough to survive some aggressive param attacks

[neon badge]

can someone rec a team foe lucian? here are my bugs

[mellow linden]

Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[rigid flint]

Use Guzma!

[neon badge]

master 12.5k

[wet gate]

ok i did it i did 4k with may sync then killed the middle enemy with hydro pump

[rigid flint]

Guzma and BugScy

[swift swan]

last time bug-weak sinnoh came around I used Hilbert/Guzma/Lusamine. I think you'll do fine with that roster

[mellow linden]

Could do Bugsy + Lusamine + Aaron, that’s what I did this week

[neon badge]

I did try guzma lusumineand free bugsy earlier

[mellow linden]

Beedrill Bugsy, that is

Get Bugsy to 4-stars tho

[swift swan]

i completely forgot about kris, fake johto fan smh

[neon badge]

ok I'll try it out again

[old orchid]

EX Guzma is better than Bugsy imo

[compact yoke]

I’m on Lucian round 3 and I’m cranking out such low damage with volcarona, am i missing something?

[old orchid]

Lucian has Wise Entry x2

[compact yoke]

I’m pretty positive parameter is fine, have it on physical damage reduction too

[old orchid]

which doubles base spdef

[neon badge]

I used to run guzma + lusamine + Hilbert before I finally got alder but maybe I need to return

[compact yoke]

So just need more spdef debuff

[old orchid]

no

[mellow linden]

Better to use physical instead

[old orchid]

you have to use physical dmg dealers

[compact yoke]

So then I should do that round 4 not round 3

[old orchid]

even with debuffs the base spdef is still too high

[compact yoke]

Because round 3 wants me using special attack

[swift swan]

the point is that special damage will be halved

[mellow linden]

Definitely avoid Lucian on Round 3

[swift swan]

no matter what round you're on

[mellow linden]

Lucian deals high amounts of special damage

[compact yoke]

Well especially round 3^

[swift swan]

which is why ifyoureadthepins physical moves are recommended

[keen jasper]

Or check the in-game advice

[compact yoke]

Appreciate it cobalt

[swift swan]

and read the ridiculous team recommendations!

[neon badge]

managed to clear with guzma lusamine and Aaron, ty everyone

[keen jasper]

[main crow]

The first time steel Glacia drops and Raihan hasn't even been reran

[pure haven]

I was thinking of bringing Victor for ground type, maybe Bertha and Courtney as well but I ain't sure, what do?

This is what I'm planning atm, ignore Marnie since that's the team I'm editing lol

[wet gate]

Should I go off type? Here are my Bug Sync Pairs.

[old orchid]

replace Sonia with gridded Bugsy and they can beat him ontype

need quad queue tho

offtype is valid option too

[wet gate]

yeah this is not my team its just auto im just wondering if its possible with my current bug type roster

[old orchid]

i beat Lucian with the same team so

[wet gate]

ok

ill try it

[wet gate]

wait bugsy?

am i stupid or do i not have bugsy

oh nvm

i do not have grid tho

[old orchid]

grid him then

[wet gate]

i dont have any orbs so i have to wait until tomorrow

[old orchid]

i dont force you to ontype, but if you find offtype is easier just do it

[wet gate]

yeah i think i will jsut off type

[swift swan]

hmmm. you can try victor/bertha/courtney I suppose, but I don't think the gauge will be good

[pure haven]

Mmh

What about Bertha, Courtney and May?

[old orchid]

dont use May

try nov's team first

sync with Courtney on zone, then user Victor's Max Quake afterwards

you can try pre sync param set pinned here first, to see if sync + max are enough to take down mid

[pure haven]

[pure haven]

Flint is deleting me with sync, what can I do?

[austere quest]

Lucian was the most annoying today, he didn’t die until I got like 5 Sync Buffs so I had to kill him Post Sync.

[pure haven]

This is r1 btw

[austere quest]

Don’t do Flint Round 1

[pure haven]

[wet gate]

i did 😅

[austere quest]

What Team did you use?

SSLyra?

[pure haven]

I was reading that flint is the less crap out of all for r1

[wet gate]

may cyrus and champion calem

[austere quest]

Wacky

[wet gate]

i killed him pre sync

[austere quest]

How do you kill him pre sync Round 1?

What permameters were you using?

[wet gate]

1 may sync + 2 hydro pump

[wet gate]

pre sync machosist from pins

[austere quest]

Huh

I couldn’t kill him Pre Sync with Double Frogs SSLysandre R1 but had no trouble doing that for R3

[pure haven]

DID BERTHA R1 LET'S GO

[rotund lagoon]

You’re doing the masochist? •.•
How come not the Tank Friendly? (Idk how new you are)

[wet gate]

ive never tried pre sync before

[frigid iron]

How did you not presync him with that team

[wet gate]

i always go post sync

[sinful garden]

masochist is the "extreme" pre sync option

[rotund lagoon]

The other one is basically a free 2.5k

[sinful garden]

you shouldnt do that unless you're extremely confident you can win

[wet gate]

ok

[rotund lagoon]

They should seriously do that for both rounds, I clear the stage in a minute with that team.

[sinful garden]

i had no trouble on r1 with may/archie/ss brendan

[austere quest]

Okay I will try again, see if I did something wrong then

[sinful garden]

weird that you couldnt with that powerhouse of a team

[rotund lagoon]

My biggest guesses are

1. No burn
2. B Hydro Pump possibly was not used?
3. Rain/Rebuff were not set up or not properly

[wet gate]

Help the sync move nuked my entire team

[rotund lagoon]

Idk if C Calem is EX’d or not, but I also sync with EX Calem before wiping everyone out.

[rotund lagoon]

Did you change your parameters? And what round?

[wet gate]

its the last round

i am using off type post sync

[rotund lagoon]

Oh I didn’t see its Cynthia

[keen jasper]

Why not use Mina?

[rotund lagoon]

But what special parameters did you choose?

[wet gate]

from pins

oh

try not to let any of your sync pairs faint

[rotund lagoon]

Also why not use Mina before trying to off type?

[wet gate]

mina?

is she good?

[rotund lagoon]

Yes.

[wet gate]

i dont think ive ever used mina before

[rotund lagoon]

I’m a huge Mina defender, she is really good and has an easy setup.

[wet gate]

Good

Is this team food?

[rotund lagoon]

Nope

[keen jasper]

Whomst your crit buffer?

[rotund lagoon]

You need an Atk/Crit buffer first of all.

[wet gate]

ok

no sycamore then

[austere quest]

Who syncs first?

[rotund lagoon]

Don’t monotype.

[rotund lagoon]

Are any of them EX?

[wet gate]

wdym

[austere quest]

I am doing the usually and it’s not working

[austere quest]

All of them are 3/5 EX at 150

[sinful garden]

only the dps needs to be the same type as the opponent's weakness

not the 2 teammates too

[wet gate]

ok

[rotund lagoon]

Calem first.

[wet gate]

but ss mina is good no?

[austere quest]

I am not killing him with my B Move

[frigid iron]

Should kill with B move + sync

[austere quest]

Sides also aren’t dying

[frigid iron]

Just sync with lysandre

Huh

[keen jasper]

What are your parameters?

[frigid iron]

Are your parameters okay?

[rotund lagoon]

B Move is busted, are you setting up rain and rebuff? And parameters?

[keen jasper]

Do you have Special Damage Reduction active?

[frigid iron]

My Lysandre did 50k b move and deleted them before I could do my first sync

[austere quest]

Yeah I have no problem with the parameters for 2.5k

[rotund lagoon]

Special Damage Reduction is not on?

[frigid iron]

I think there is, because the sides should die if not the mid too

[rotund lagoon]

Only for Fairy Zone. No other synergy otherwise.

[frigid iron]

What's the reason for that many HP params

[rotund lagoon]

Check the pins for parameters…

[frigid iron]

Those are the wrong parameters, good sir

[wet gate]

it can heal tho

[austere quest]

I usually don’t have problems with these parameters

[frigid iron]

Well you are having problems now

[rotund lagoon]

Do you know the fundamentals of teambuilding at all?

[wet gate]

How to not get nuked?

not really...

[rotund lagoon]

+101

[frozen depot]

> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you have done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding and gameplay.

1. When making a team, you usually want to focus building around a selected damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or not if they are strong enough to off-type). This can be a / striker or a tech. Take the time to read that damage dealer's kit in its entirety (moves and passives) to see what they can buff themselves. Critical-Hit Rate maxes at +3 while all other main buffs go to +6. Damage dealers should be in slot 3 for tactics.

2. Once you figured out your damage dealer, pick a to put on slot 1 in tactics so it takes the damage. The support will often want to cover the buffs the damage dealer needs and cannot max by themselves reliably (look for critical-hit rate, attack or special attack for example). If your damage dealer is fully self sustainable, the support can cover healing or defensive utility as needed!

3. Finally your last slot is entirely flexible and depends on your first two picks. You can take a tech focusing on utility like debuffs or weather/terrain that empowers your damage dealer, or another support that focuses on defenses and healing to survive longer, perhaps even boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a second damage dealer! It's important to experiment and remember that a successful team will be able to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealer fast so they can focus on pumping out damage as soon as possible!

Want to know more about Triple-Queue and other information about the game? Visit our #1010307000346878062 or check the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone!

[rotund lagoon]

You cannot make a good team if you do not know these.

[austere quest]

I cleared the 12.5k?

[wet gate]

i got kiawe for the crit

[keen jasper]

Well, Cynthia has Outsmart, which increases her Sp. Atk. by 1 when she avoids an attack

[sinful garden]

kiawe doesnt max crit without a mpr

[wet gate]

yeah i have that sync grif

[frigid iron]

Which is not a big deal. These parameters are making it harder for you.

[sinful garden]

and even then he wont max attack

[austere quest]

They are?

[keen jasper]

And also Cynthia only has Steady Resolve 3, which is lesser debuff mitigation than normal

[frigid iron]

Try the pinned params and see the difference

Your lysandre will one shot the stage with his b move

[wet gate]

who should i use then with mina

[sinful garden]

@wet gate read this

[rotund lagoon]

I said an Atk/Crit buffer, did I not?

[austere quest]

He did do that R3

[frigid iron]

He will do that R1, BEFORE you do your first sync

[austere quest]

He could also probably do that any round that isn’t R1 for reference with my parameters

[frigid iron]

And with the pinned params, he can do it in any Round

[wet gate]

Will this work? I have attack from Lillie and crit from kiawe

[rotund lagoon]

Does Kiawe have TM MPR?

[sinful garden]

they said he does

[rotund lagoon]

Also you could change that team tbh

[wet gate]

ye

[austere quest]

Oh I remember why I have these as my Parameters now

I am good

[rotund lagoon]

I just noticed…any reason you’re doing only Alola?

There are better Atk/Crit buffers than Kiawe.

[wet gate]

no its just a coincidence i guess

[frigid iron]

Why drop Fini

The fairy zone will help

[wet gate]

ok

[keen jasper]

Yeah, Fini increase Sp. Def.

And Cynthia's attacks are all special

[wet gate]

but who for crit?

[rotund lagoon]

Show me your Supports.

[frigid iron]

Yeah, your supports please.

[wet gate]

1 sec

[rotund lagoon]

I can name at least 3-4 free Atk/Crit buffers, but I want to see your options.

Kiawe is not included, I genuinely do not care for him

[rotund lagoon]

Sonia

100%

[old orchid]

I see Hilbert

Sonia cant buff crit at 2/5

[rotund lagoon]

Oh wait I thought it said 4/5

[frigid iron]

Sonia wont buff crit

[rotund lagoon]

I can’t read

[frigid iron]

Yeah

[keen jasper]

Sonia slander tho

[old orchid]

Thats a fact

[pure haven]

Flint or lucian for r3

[keen jasper]

Yeah IK

[pure haven]

?

[keen jasper]

No

[old orchid]

Neither

[wet gate]

does hilbert buff crit?

[old orchid]

Yes

[pure haven]

Man I'm dead

[old orchid]

And dont ping

[rotund lagoon]

By grid.

[wet gate]

sorry

[pure haven]

[keen jasper]

He has Critical Squad at 3/5

[frigid iron]

Use Hilbert after gridding

Did you already use your Hop by the way

[wet gate]

yes

[wet gate]

ok ill try that

[keen jasper]

Meanwhile, I'm still crying because I don't have Hilbert for over a year now

[weak sleet]

Can ss Hilbert clear Lucian this week on 12.5k master mode?

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah, he’s strong

[keen jasper]

Definitely

[weak sleet]

Even though wise entry or whatever is being run?

[keen jasper]

I've cleared fairy-weak Cynthia with SS Wally

[rotund lagoon]

It’s

You need a special attacker

Oh wait, you said Lucian?

[pure haven]

I read somewhere that this team is good for Lucian, who's the main dps tho? For special or physical reduction I mean

[weak sleet]

Yup

I meant him not Aaron (I had Aaron on mind because I run him with Genesect)

[old orchid]

What move level is your SS Hilbert?

[weak sleet]

1/5

[rotund lagoon]

Ohhh I see
Yeah, that stage discourages Special Attackers

[weak sleet]

But I have enough candy to up him and he is on my short list

[old orchid]

Toss Guzma and use Bugsy as nuker. Lusamine is dps with Lunge

[weak sleet]

Oh and he is ex

[pure haven]

Kk

[prime warren]

Genesect should still blast through Lucian even at 1/5

[pure haven]

4* and grid bugsy right?

[old orchid]

Grid him for nuke

[weak sleet]

Grid Hilbert for nuke? What move level?

[pure haven]

Do I get cs2?

[rotund lagoon]

That’s for someone else. Sorry ^^;

[weak sleet]

Oh

[rotund lagoon]

Have you tried your Genesect on Lucian yet by chance?

[wet gate]

Bruh

[weak sleet]

Not yet no

[wet gate]

cynthia keeps dodging me and increasing sp atk

[weak sleet]

I wasn't even sure what round to try Lucian. Because I see we have half sync and I'm not sure who I need to avoid. @rotund lagoon

[pure haven]

Do I need hilbert grid for this? I'm running low on orbs

[prime warren]

You just throw your genesect vs Lucian in R3

[rotund lagoon]

First round is basically using a team you know can do quick.

[prime warren]

The stage has wise entry

You won't be able to deal with it in first round

[wet gate]

should i use clefairy for accuracy?

[weak sleet]

My ideas for the week were:
Iridia, BP Candice
Maxie, Courtney
Frogs
Genesect
Rats - off type Cynthia