Ah yeah, Morty, but his sync is physical while Phantom Force ruins queueing
#Champion Stadium
keen jasper
unborn mason
thank you
unborn mason
why do they do this to us. dena are cruel masters.
i have kiawe so this isn't a huge threat but im hurting in the ghost department
keen jasper
Because they want us to use SSR Cynthia
Oh yeah, thanks Aurochs for reminding me that Acerola is also a physical ghost damage dealer, but only on her sync
toxic cobalt
Gonna candy your Acerola?
sinful garden
why do they do this to us. dena are cruel masters.
so its either morty or ssr cynthia
man i hate sinnoh
toxic cobalt
I mean, does she have any sync multipliers at higher move levels?
Tough cookie and Harry
old orchid
You can still brute force through him
Wise Entry x2 makes special ontype dmg dealer doing offtype dmg
toxic cobalt
Giovanni is good
unborn mason
Wise Entry x2 makes special ontype dmg dealer doing offtype dmg
Oh? good then. I can brute force through that
i believe in Allister
old orchid
Giovanni is good
He always is 
full mesa
so its either morty or ssr cynthia
What about Dusknoir?
formal vigil
theres also ss korrina and fall morty and accerola
zealous karma
why do they do this to us. dena are cruel masters.
Gio still clears this stage fairly easily
civic trellis
Oh yeah, thanks Aurochs for reminding me that Acerola is also a physical ghost d...
I mean SSRC’s physical dps is phantom force which is limited so 
But I dont think its as bad as bug lucian 
formal vigil
she has her nuke
nocturne pawn
i used the lucian to kill the lucian
civic trellis
I was struggling with it last time, and my noland is upgraded but ig ill try it again
zealous karma
bug lucian bugsy and noaland can clear just fine
I like Noland more than Guzma
old orchid
#BugsySweep
plush tangle
#NolandSweep
tired sleet
#BurghSweep
zealous karma
#BugsyandNolandSweep
tired sleet
#SCIngoSweep
agile drum
I got 2/5 Alder today so he finally doesn't miss
zinc island
#SSHilbertSweep
tired sleet
+pomatools says its sinnoh
frozen depotBOT
tired sleet
There’s also the pins, as always
nocturne pawn
its also in the pins of the channel
austere quest
+pomatools says its sinnoh
OwO
nocturne pawn
more like hell
austere quest
its also in the pins of the channel
I checked the pins and there was no pins…
That was the first thing I did
austere quest
Yeah I see them
dark osprey
Lost is the one who updates the pins 
tame gust
oops, I did the mistake of waiting until the last day to do CS again.. damn work.
weak sleet
Can Emma handle round 5?
tame gust
bleh, Ice Weak Kahli and one of my better Ice dps is 3/5 Hala. I'm actually feeling like playing TotK and just going to Sinnoh at next reset rather than bump my head on a wall
junior crown
Can Emma handle round 5?
For sure
Hala is enough for it and you can use Ghetsis too
if you prefer
tame gust
I would've LIKED to use Ghetsis, but I don't have his EX, which I would've liked to have. But nah. DeNA be like "Here, have another Hoenn rerun lmao"
junior crown
Well he was good before EX, don't think you NEED him EX
tame gust
Ah, fair. Just that gauge cost on Glaciate is kinda steep and no tech sync benfit really irks me. Hmm.. fighting weak and nerd boi. 3/5 Bea shouldn't have issues with the right supports. The issue I'm having is deciding on the right supports.
honestly I feel like I have the roster to make these fights somewhat easy. I'm just too smooth brained to work 'em out.
sinful garden
bleh, Ice Weak Kahli and one of my better Ice dps is 3/5 Hala. I'm actually feel...
hala is enough, either him or just offtype
its alola so it shouldnt be that tough to offtype
sinful garden
bleh, Ice Weak Kahli and one of my better Ice dps is 3/5 Hala. I'm actually feel...
hala is enough, either him or just offtype
minor mauve
Can Emma handle round 5?
easily
devout sluice
Almost forgot next reset is Sinnoh CS. Kinda scared about it while in 12.5k
old orchid
im opposite, very exciting for the first 12.5k Sinnoh
swift swan
I'll be very busy today so I can't do CS immediately
north crown
wait it's sinnoh next reset?
swift swan
I'll be around to update the pins though
swift swan
wait it's sinnoh next reset?
Yessir
mellow linden
12.5k won’t be that bad when it comes to stall and on-typing
Off-typing is the big concern
swift swan
12.5k is a big concern this week because of the CS battle factory server event 
devout sluice
There’s no way I’m doing 15k, that’ll literally burn me out.
sacred mountain
I'm pretty sure sinnoh would make me use candies and EX at least something ,it always does
trail smelt
Huh there’s a battle factory event?
devout sluice
I have no idea
zealous karma
Huh there’s a battle factory event?
@devout sluice The current server event (at the very top of the server at roles and channels) there is a current server event going on for the anniversary of the server there are 3 teams, Kris Bianca and Lucas choose who you like most and there will be several various (creative) themes for anyone in this server to join in. The battke factory event will be the second event that debuts with Sinnoh CS
devout sluice
Oh. I’m not interested in joining.
trail smelt
Oh neato
zealous karma
Ik I just wanted to let you know
You also just get a fancy role I you are not forced to actually participate, when reacting to any team you also get server community year 4
bright furnace
this is gonna be pretty fun, richu
wide adder
GO! RIGHT THERE! GO!
focus blast intensifies
swanna panic noises
tldr of my fighting weak this week. 
idk what im going to do for the champion tho, i really dont wanna stall but idk who to use alongside allister there
zealous karma
<:WallyUWU:709588222065508463> GO! RIGHT THERE! GO!
<:MonkaScottie:6844388793521...
A spdef buffer like LDawn
wide adder
A spdef buffer like LDawn
you think allister + lucian + sclillie would work?
jeez he debuffs spatk -3 on entry?
zealous karma
sounds good to me also yea
wide adder
til lucian cant lower spdef once atk hits -6
interesting
either way was a win on halfsync. just rushed ex supp sync and max ooze with -3spdef
old orchid
I will try to do like at least 17.5K
With 24 random units?
tired sleet
Wulfric, Cheren, and Hapu is like 10k on their own 
zealous karma
Reminder to post any like unit showcases or clears in #1010274591601598555
wide adder
Sorry
swift swan
2023/06/12 - 2023/06/19
Ground-weak Aaron: Mid and right are fully physical, left is mostly special. Very bulky HP (almost 29k). Moves and sync moves are powered up when there is no weather in effect. Mid has Acute Senses 4 so damage taken is reduced if not affected by a status change (look up what counts as a status change in Edit Team > Filter > Known Moves > Status Change section). Piercing Blows and other moves with a similar effect can ignore this.
Tip: In Master Mode, pick up Gradual Healing at Start parameter. This counts as a status change and deactivates Acute Senses.
Ice-weak Bertha: Fully physical stage. Sets sandstorm upon entry and after sync and extends the duration of sandstorm. Has a lot of sand-related passives so changing the weather is recommended.
Water-weak Flint: Mid is mostly special, left is fully special, right is mostly physical. The stage debuffs special attack and special defense a lot. Mid has Good Form and Rising Tide, which increase the power of moves and sync moves the more stats are raised.
Bug-weak Lucian: Mid and right are mostly special, left is fully special. Very bulky HP (almost 29k). Debuffs special attack a lot. All 3 have Wise Entry x2 which doubles the base special defense stat (Piercing Blows and other moves with a similar effect do not ignore this). Physical moves is recommended.
Fairy-weak Cynthia: Mid is fully special, right is mostly special, left is fully physical. Lowers your accuracy and, after sync, raises team evasion. All 3 have Wise Entry x2 which ***doubles the base special defense stat **(Piercing Blows and other moves with a similar effect do not *ignore this). Physical moves is recommended.
just gonna drop this here first
if Sages makes a better format this can be unpinned
sick oak
sand karma
W params
trail smelt
Man didn’t expect Sinnoh to actually cause me stumble again
Had to reset and change configurations a bit before winning
It didn’t help that I tried being funny and try to use Caitlin LMAO
Ready for next week and honestly I fully expect to change my bug and fairy teams
Maybe even the ground one
wide adder
I am a bit curious of how viable irida is offtype. Anyone know if a specific stage is susceptible to her?
Or does it not matter much where I try her other than the wise x2 ghost from my understanding
trail smelt
… I completely forgot Sinnoh had x2 everywhere lol
wide adder
Yeah sinnoh was the first region that started being like “hey by the way, this isn’t just ebe passive stuff”
Might still try to brute force ghost stage with lunala bc uhhh
It’s either that or gladion probs lol cause 1:5 Cynthia prob not solo damaging it
verbal karma
...I guess Flint just has high defense?
keen jasper
No?
verbal karma
Then why does SS Lana do so little damage? 😦
trail smelt
Nah Flint’s thing is his sheer firepower
keen jasper
Nah Flint’s thing is his sheer firepower
Pun intended?
trail smelt
Yes
old orchid
Then why does SS Lana do so little damage? 😦
Did you accidentally choose physical reduction param?
manic kiln
fire weak flint is one of those annoying stage in sinnoh 
he just hits hard
keen jasper
It's the Fire Blast that's the tank killer
old orchid
I didnt expect my CBede nearly getting oneshot
Have to change to more defensive param lol
soft gyro
I run all red params, the no field effects one, the phys/special reduction damage ones and a few filler ones to get to 2.5k
verbal karma
Did you accidentally choose physical reduction param?
Absolutely not
soft gyro
Going full offensive params is a gamble because you die much more easily
And you risk not surviving sync 1 even with good defensive boosts
verbal karma
In case anyone is wondering: my team is SS Dawn/SS Lana/Anni May
soft gyro
Also, does anyone unironically use the 'this role takes triple damage' params
The striker one in particular o3o
sacred mountain
If I'm not using a tech then the tech one
soft gyro
But yeah, the striker and support ones basically guarantee those pairs will not survive sync 1
sacred mountain
I use Striker one with SS Steven team
soft gyro
Ss steven being basically both a tech and a striker in sync makes it easier though
old orchid
Absolutely not
Then i dont know what caused the problem
verbal karma
In case anyone is wondering: my team is SS Dawn/SS Lana/Anni May
Nevermind, I was able to win with this team somehow anyway
...I don't even know what I did different tbh
trail smelt
Surprisingly Speed SSSteven managed to tank a fire blast
I have no idea how that happened
verbal karma
why can Mega Horn insta-kill Entei?!
soft gyro
Crit?
manic kiln
it's a 189 BP 4 bar move. if Flint's Fire Blast can 1HKO then Mega Horn should have no problem
also despite having def buff Entei is not that great of a tank
verbal karma
Oh no, my usual Poison Stall team that usually worked suddenly doesn't work on Cynthia 😦
dark osprey
Might still try to brute force ghost stage with lunala bc uhhh
You can go with regular Morty and SSR Cynthia for a reliable clear
Also Irida would be viable offtype just focusing on the nuke
Can add ghetsis for some more utility I feel
unborn mason
lucien destroyed the team i specially made to beat him (allister + kiawe + giovanni) so i whipped out my battle villa team and won
verbal karma
I still can't win against Cynthia
the Poison Stall team I usually use is suddenly not working anymore
For those wondering, it's BP Janine/SS Leaf/Koga
swift swan
For those wondering, it's BP Janine/SS Leaf/Koga
Koga? Ss leaf is enough, no?
Just replace koga with another potion tank
manic kiln
koga is not really a stall unit, if you use that team better clear with dmg and sync, much faster
undone ether
I went with uhm
they get very easy once you start stacking Stat Drops.
hecne why i used NC Serena .-.;
now i have this urge to give Emma a candy
or 2.
dark osprey
Probably replace koga with a special defense buffer or so. And then can replace Janine with viola too
undone ether
probably not hmm
Week 146
Ground Week Aaron - Cynthia 5/5
Ice Week Bertha - Irida or H.Leon. Depends.
Water Weak Flint - Kyogre or NC Serena
Bug Weak Lucian - Yo Boy Guzma. Probably.
Fairy Weak Cynthia - Pal Serena.
Week 147
Fire Weak Aaron same as Week 145
Grass Weak Bertha same as Week 145
Rock Weak Flint - SC Hilda
Dark Weak Lucian - NC Marnie
Dragon Weak Cynthia - SS Serena
Weak 148
Electric Weak Aaron - Ash or SST Red.
Steel Weak Bertha - Solgaleo. Probably.
Water Weak Flint - Same as Week 146
Flying Weak Lucian - Lodge Serena, Anni Steven, Lysandre. Depends.
Fighting Weak Cynthia - Aura Cynthia, NC Hop and SS May 2/5 (Maybe 3/5?)
How does my roster look for the month of June? :O?
verbal karma
Koga? Ss leaf is enough, no?
There's a difference between poisoned and badly poisoned
undone ether
also congrats @swift swan 😮
old orchid
There's a difference between poisoned and badly poisoned
They both inflict badly poison
The difference is SS Leaf spreading poison aoe
formal vigil
Don't all 3 units inflict bad poison
undone ether
badly poison just means you get to see your DPS go up each time they use anything.
Also, Cynthia has lowered Lessen Poison, up to 7
verbal karma
They both inflict badly poison
Ah, whoops, I for some reason remember SS Leaf spreading normal poison instead
old orchid
Don't all 3 units inflict bad poison
Janine only inflicts normal poison
formal vigil
BP janine
undone ether
SS Leaf definitely drops Badly Poison ;o
old orchid
Or offensive team with Koga?
undone ether
the thing with Cynthia is that she drops a lot of AoE moves
Emma didnt survive ;-; at least for me, its pure stall options as well.
old orchid
Why did you use Emma in a stall team? 
dusty yarrow
I've used a Roxie Team for the Cynthia run
swift swan
Finally roxie appreciation in this house
swift swan
Koga is destined to be underappreciated 
dusty yarrow
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Week 146
Ground Week Aaron - Cynthia 5/5
Ice Week Bertha - Irida or H.Leon. ...
with a team like that
... doable to Easy-mode 12.5k I guess (atleast for me), just have to play with the Round Parameters for those weeks, some small notes, but probably you prepared these:
- Fairy Weak has Wise Entry x2, but I guess you can brute force that with Pal. Serena
- Idk much about SS Serena, Dragon Weak has a Sandstorm Gimmick w/ Sand Screen, and if SSerena can play around with Sand or have a boost w/ Sand then its probably doable, or again you can just brute force it cuz... OP Unit I guess
undone ether
with a team like that<:BarryPogChamp:718173426199560315>... doable to Easy-mode ...
wait Sandstorm gimmick?
HMMM
for Fairy Weak, i might use NY Lisia.
for Dragon Weak... i might just do Anniversary Steven.
he does have Draco Meteor
undone ether
hum i guess i can run SS Morty in there
but hmm
i'd be using SS Morty against Bertha
I guess i can run SS Kris with Zerena hmm.
dusty yarrow
I mean... for me atleast... Koga is already proven his worth... how bout' give the other units a chance
, bruh I haven't used Roxie since Koga's Existence (I have given Jessie & MCArbok chances on older runs, maybe Lucy next)
my last Sinnoh run is with the MC Arbok
shrewd oyster
Does rain weaken fire moves like in main line games
dusty yarrow
Idk... I think it doesn't weaken fire move here in PoMA... maybe Gakon or the other Sensei's can answer this properly
old orchid
it doesnt
shrewd oyster
Nvm he actually did more damage this time with rain up
Oh cool my discord chat just didn't update
I know it's my parameters because Flint should not be doing 2k right out the gate
dusty yarrow
what round are you on Flint?
shrewd oyster
3
old orchid
he has high and boosted spatk compared to other stages and +2 spatk buff on entry
thats why
summer flare
Managed to pull off a monotype run this week, still feeling uncomfortable around multiple types
shrewd oyster
I need to debuff his sp Atk- I debuff his spd def but he has so much HP that I can't kill him fast enough is the thing yeah
summer flare
The highlight was ghost, with Morty, lodge acerola and phoebe
old orchid
Managed to pull off a monotype run this week, still feeling uncomfortable around...
#1010274591601598555
shrewd oyster
I finally beat it! I used the tank friendly parameter suggestions
but I
I missed a parameter
so I only got 7.4k in total now
junior crown
For those wondering, it's BP Janine/SS Leaf/Koga
That is not a poison stall team, you don't have a debuffer neither a buffer
SS Leaf + Viola + Liza for example
with it you have SSLeaf: poison + potion + Viola: trap + debuff + Liza: buff + confusion + synchro healing
old orchid
Or SS Leaf / OG Janine / a defense buffer
dark osprey
If they lack an Omni defense buffer such as BP Morty/regular leaf etc. Could probably go ahead with a special defense buffer I guess
soft gyro
What about Ariados, Venusaur and another dps/tank
junior crown
should be Ariados, Venusaur and a tank
if you're using a DPS then it's not poison stall, so you prob wont use Ariados and Venusaur for DPS teams
junior crown
If they lack an Omni defense buffer such as BP Morty/regular leaf etc. Could pro...
The only physical attack she has is the sides with Fire Punch, which will be used at maximum once unles you flinch the middle, but yeah, omni buffers works too
dark osprey
For the tank you'd want a special defense buffer at least
Since healing is more or less managed with ss leaf
But yeah Liza seems like a nice budget option
Can even go with Misty or sycamore if available
old orchid
What about Ariados, Venusaur and another dps/tank
why do you slot in a dps in stall team
nocturne pawn
bro i fucking forgot to use bug i missed a week of mm 💀💀💀💀💀
zealous karma
I hate lucian
nocturne pawn
L
zealous karma
Trying to 3.5K is pain
Why is he healing all my damage I hate gradual healing wth I do 9K he heals 9K moyai
nocturne pawn
cant wait for aaron healing 100k
tame gust
Oh right no MM for me until next week. Gotta unlock type medals
long thicket
So I got Bertha and Lucian done 2k.
For the other two, it's most likely a question of finding a good offensive pair.
nocturne pawn
aaron and flint should be easy
the hard part about flint is dealing with spdef drops and burns
zealous karma
Oh my gosh it’s so joever for me
long thicket
Same thing happened with Lucian, but that's because the support I had for Lillie/Cynthia wasn't ideal.
Meanwhile, Victor/Lyra/EX Shauna made Bertha a cakewalk.
Now I have Aaron and I guess it's once again finding the right combination for on-type damage.
weak sleet
So my thoughts this week in order:
Ghost
Psychic
Fire
Grass
Is this a good order?
For ghost I have giratina, lunala, and Skyla
For psychic its Necrozma, mushara, and rotom
For fire it's ss red, Victini, and SS Morty
For grass it's ss Lyra, Adaman, and either lyra or SS Erika
And poison is Emma, SS Leaf, and Sycamore
dark osprey
Ah. With those the order wouldn't matter much I guess
weak sleet
Even at 12.5k?
long thicket
Oh yeah, I don't have Sygna Morty and don't care much about him.
dark osprey
This CS has some player beneficial parameters I guess
weak sleet
Yeah permanent field effects is really nice.
dark osprey
Just that Lucian has wise entry x2 so try and use Cynthias sync and phantom force whenever possible
keen jasper
the hard part about flint is dealing with spdef drops and burns
Nah, the hard part is not getting Fire Blasted by Flint himself
weak sleet
Oh don't sync with Lillie. Doesn't moongiest beam ignore the wise entry?
nocturne pawn
yeah that gets compounded by mind games 9 on the sides
nocturne pawn
Oh don't sync with Lillie. Doesn't moongiest beam ignore the wise entry?
her sync doesnt
her move does
dark osprey
Oh don't sync with Lillie. Doesn't moongiest beam ignore the wise entry?
Unfortunately no
Even the move
But still would do enough damage I guess
weak sleet
So sync with Cynthia not my ex support?
dark osprey
You can sync with ex support either ways
zealous karma
If Gio can clear non 3K ghost week just fine so can AnniLillie
dark osprey
Hehe. Maybe try shauntal plus Gio
Or shauntal plus Agatha with more offensive parameters since sleep hax
long thicket
What's a good damage dealer for Aaron on this stage?
mellow linden
What's your Fire roster?
keen jasper
Literally any fire damage dealer
dark osprey
Except flint
keen jasper
And Silver is a free unit
mellow linden
Fire weak Aaron isn't very restrictive
long thicket
It's very good, it just requires me figuring out a good combo.
keen jasper
Fire weak Aaron isn't very restrictive
Just have to pray you don't get Megahorn-ed at the start
mellow linden
You can just slap your strongest Fire damage-dealer + appropriate Support + Sun setter on the team and probably be fine
mellow linden
Megahorn is a move to watch out for, yeah (though with a bulky enough tank it's not that big of a deal)
keen jasper
Silver alone can destroy Aaron
nocturne pawn
ss may or silver
keen jasper
Actually, Silver alone will destroy all fire-weak stages
mellow linden
You can just pick one from SS May, SS Hilda, Silver, or Anniversary N
And build a team around them
keen jasper
I wonder if they have Gordie
mellow linden
He doesn't need a grid for Fire teams
spring fable
My silver destroyed Aaron, but I need help with Lucian r4
keen jasper
Doesn't matter, he's there for Tar Shot
mellow linden
Just Tar Shot and Max Flare
keen jasper
And possibly G-Max Vocalith: Defense Crush
long thicket
So Silver, Gordie and maybe an EX support?
mellow linden
A Support that can give Silver his necessary buffs, yeah
dark osprey
My silver destroyed Aaron, but I need help with Lucian r4
Do you have any physical ghost type damage dealers?
spring fable
Support Ex or not dont matter you’ll sync with silver anyway
spring fable
Do you have any physical ghost type damage dealers?
No sadly
keen jasper
So Silver, Gordie and maybe an EX support?
You don't need an EX support when you're talking about Silver
keen jasper
You only need an EX support for him when you want very funny numbers
mellow linden
Could do something like Skyla as the Support, run Silver with a full Sync nuke grid, and probably obliterate the stage on 1st Sync
spring fable
Regular Morty?
Oh I have him at 2/5!
mellow linden
Just Max Flare with Gordie before Silver Sync
long thicket
mortal dirge
What are you guys using for the poison arena? Poison types are so weak
dark osprey
Can use his sync and shadow balls/tms to get to the sync
mellow linden
What are you guys using for the poison arena? Poison types are so weak
Roxie + Lucy + an Attack and crit Support works wonders
bronze bolt
I keep getting destroyed by Flint 😭 currently using Anni May, SS Lana & SS Brendan
mellow linden
Ideally Roxie + Lucy + 3/5 Hilbert or 3/5 Sonia
dark osprey
And a ghost type dps like Gio/shauntal
keen jasper
I've used Lodge Morty, Koga and Lucy as my F2P clear against poison-weak Cynthia
mortal dirge
Ideally Roxie + Lucy + 3/5 Hilbert or 3/5 Sonia
whos Lucy?
spring fable
I tried allister, fantina and ss Brendan but yeah they have wise entry
keen jasper
whos Lucy?
The one with Seviper
mellow linden
whos Lucy?
Seviper lady
dark osprey
I tried allister, fantina and ss Brendan but yeah they have wise entry
Maybe replace Alister with Morty for a slightly better sync
Or else go poison stall/physical offtype
mellow linden
If you wanna KO on 2nd Sync Hilbert (though you'd probably want to replace Gordie with Blaine for more reliable Sun if you're doing that), if you wanna try and nuke on 1st Sync just use Skyla as the Support and grid Silver for all his Sync nuke tiles + the tiles that make his Trainer Move give +2 Attack and Supereffective Up
spring fable
Or else go poison stall/physical offtype
I tried duo frogs + 4/5 Sydney, couldn’t nuke 😦
dark osprey
If you've got SC Steven, you could go with them, Morty and a support
dark osprey
I tried duo frogs + 4/5 Sydney, couldn’t nuke 😦
Oh. That seems doable. If you've got duo frogs, can go for CSerena dark nuke than Sidney I guess
spring fable
Frogs are 1/5
dark osprey
I think CSerena dark type nuke may hit harder still
Can use Morty with along with them maybe to clear the sides
Hope C Serena is EXed
swift swan
couldn't giovanni bruteforce lucian's wise entry? i'm sure he can
giovanni DPS, fantina nuke. grid for super preparation to make up for the wise entry x2.
dark osprey
Yeah he could. Maybe better to sync with regular Morty
spring fable
Nov I used Giovanni on flint 
dark osprey
Shauntal has some good ghost dps too
swift swan
ah sorry, I missed that
dark osprey
Better than Gio imo
swift swan
Yeah he could. Maybe better to sync with regular Morty
ehhhh
his nuke is annoying to set up
i've tried. i've genuinely tried 2.5k with morty. ugh.
nocturne pawn
you need an evasion buffer cuz hes not good at it himself unless hes statused
which is not something that should happen
dark osprey
No need to get the full nuke I guess. Like 3 TMs may be enough
But at 2/5 I'm not very sure too
dark osprey
Can always poison stall Cynthia
Who else do you plan to use for Cynthia?
Any physical poison types will really help
dark osprey
Like Roxie, Emma, ss gio
nocturne pawn
looker erasure
dark osprey
mpr at 1/5
Yeah. Seems ok. Just missing a couple of sync tiles I guess
spring fable
yea i have 1/5 emma, lucy and roxie
dark osprey
looker erasure
Oh yeah looker too
swift swan
https://youtu.be/5K05gb5jZ6o i tried a morty nuke a while back. it's... alright I suppose, but his set up is annoying
spring fable
damn not even pika can save me
swift swan
is lucian easier or cynthia?
cynthia is poison weak, which is always a free stall clear
roxie's nuke is respectable
but then again, emma exists
full mesa
damn not even pika can save me
Zues' rodents destroy Sinnoh. Which stage can't you complete?
full mesa
Why are you using a Special attacker against an opponent with wise entry x2.
All of your damage are halved.
spring fable
i dont have a good physical ghost type, thought pika could cheese,
full mesa
Lucian Psychic ain't hard. What Physical Ghost types do you have and what Physical strikers/tech do you have?
spring fable
physical ghost, phoebe and morty
physical striker / tech, i have a handful...
full mesa
ok. Try off type with physical striker/tech
spring fable
will trying to nuke with dragon zone palkia work lol
nocturne pawn
that sounds bad
full mesa
Don't use special Attackers
spring fable
will solgaleo ex work
soft gyro
So my thoughts this week in order:
Ghost
Psychic
Fire
Grass
I went that order but in reverse o3o
full mesa
I did Ghost, Fire, Psychic, Grass.
manic kiln
you can still use sp atk tho, it's a bit harder but still doable, but if you struggle just use physical
devout sluice
Seems I’m having a rough time on ghost.
dark osprey
Try poison stalling
devout sluice
Didn’t work so I decided to just do 12k run instead.
swift swan
All of your damage are halved.
to be fair, Ash isn't just any special attacker
if there's anyone who can bruteforce wise entry x2 offtype, it's him
swift swan
https://youtu.be/5K05gb5jZ6o i tried a morty nuke a while back. it's... alright ...
you can try morty... I assume if no ssr cynthia, bring an EX support. and preferably debuff mid's defense
junior crown
Didn’t work so I decided to just do 12k run instead.
not like the last reward would make a big difference, but poison stall always works, maybe you went with the wrong pairs...
devout sluice
Maybe I did, but was saving SS Leaf for the last round.
junior crown
#1097597679015567420 I use 5 poison stall teams every week, none use SSLeaf, maybe it can help to make more than one poison stall team if you need
paper summit
let's use #1010274591601598555 for that next time, shall we?
soft gyro
I thought this was the right place, sorry
plush tangle
Does Staggering gets its chance doubled with the CS parameter on round... 3 i think ?
old orchid
No it doesn't
plush tangle
sadge
old orchid
The param only boosts the secondary effect of moves
sacred mountain
Is the Usual Silver Ho Oh team working for Flint?
keen jasper
Is the Usual Silver Ho Oh team working for Flint?
Silver can destroy any fire-weak stage
sacred mountain
I need to save SS leaf for grass weak tbh
wide adder
Rhythm (freebie)
Anni Lillie Ethan tate Norman Silver Gardenia SS grimsley Plumeria
Darach Bianca whitney gladion lucian Will Janine Acerola
Leaf (freebie) Lodge dawn sonia Liza Maylene hop Lillie
am i supposed to use silver or gardenia for grass here? 
figuring out my teams for the event
swift swan
Honestly, you can run them both
Also maybe asking in your respective team's channel is better so we don't clog up this channel? But i'm no mod so this is just a suggestion lol
swift swan
I need to save SS leaf for grass weak tbh
She's also a very good staller for cynthia
wide adder
alright, sorry. im just unfamiliar with gardenia as a unit haha
swift swan
Run a special support, grid for sunny disposition if she doesn't have dauntless so she doesn't go debuffing herself after every leaf storm
white gale
for next week's Bug-weak stage that has Wise Entry x2, is it better to use a physical bug damage dealer (Lusamine, Nolan, Bugsy) or special bug damage dealer (Alder)? I plan to use SS Hilbert no matter what for the rebuff
paper summit
I mean, it's kinda obvious, but SS Hilbert will not care a whole lot
he'll clear easily on his own
white gale
oh he will? even with Wise Entry x2? (sorry I don't think I've ever faced this stage before)
soft gyro
If you have Lunala, you can completely ignore Wise Entry
since Moongeist Beam ignores passives
formal vigil
it can't
junior crown
oh he will? even with Wise Entry x2? (sorry I don't think I've ever faced this s...
SS Hilb can debuff sp def, so you can always do 2 turns of debuff if needed
paper summit
yeah, you cannot bypass those Entries with Piercing Blows
throw a physical bug to "help" if you feel like it
formal vigil
though with anni lilie i would imagine should still destroy the stage
paper summit
yeah, she still doesn't care for ghost weak
granted I nuke center with a physical sync
but overall it's still very doable
junior crown
it'll be good if he is at least 2/5 for dauntless, because lucian will debuff 2 spatk and may debuff more with hyper voice
but if not can always rebuff him anyway
soft gyro
did we have physical ghost strikers other than morty?
paper summit
no, but we do have other physical damage dealers in SSR Cynthia and SS Korrina
formal vigil
renegade cynthia ss korrina~~ fall morty and accerola~~
paper summit
right, forgot FMorty exists
fiery canopy
sinnoh time lets gooo
north crown
I don't think you should be exicted about that
paper summit
wdym, Sinnoh is easy
fiery canopy
but i am >:)
perm field effects r1....i have ssacerola so maybe ill fight bertha first + get rid of her sandstorm w sunny day
unless its more recommended to fight someone else first
latent eagle
Is there an order you should do the rounds this week?
fiery canopy
idk
mellow linden
None of the opponents this week can abuse the parameters all that well, or if they can then you can abuse the parameters harder
latent eagle
So the order doesn’t really matter or???
mellow linden
Only in that you may want to plan what teams you’re using accordingly
The most impactful parameter is permanent field effects
sick inlet
fiery canopy
r1 done, who for r2...
doing aaron r4 so i can get extra burnsss.....maybe flint r2?
or actually lucian r2
letsgo
my ghost units are not the greatest...may just offtype for this one
i need to complete the medal anyway
north crown
oh you're not in mm
cs hard mode is way too ez, especially if you have mm experience
fringe valve
Sinnoh 
soft gyro
CS got harder again, boys and girls
full mesa
Is the Usual Silver Ho Oh team working for Flint?
Ι used a F2P team of Entei/Silver/Tech Ninetails.
peak stirrup
Is Aaron resistant to physical?
zealous karma
idt so
peak stirrup
Max Charizard sync did basically nothing
zealous karma
Fire-weak Aaron: Mid and left are fully physical, right is mostly physical. Bulky HP (25k). Low attack and special attack stats. Mid has First Aid 2 (heals for 20% when reaching red health). All 3 have Endurance.
thats his gimmick
perhaps you have the special resistance up param, as both charizards are special
long thicket
Okay, won 2k Aaron, but mostly off-type.
long thicket
Heal + resistance to KO is just rude.
Used Sygna Lysandre's Fire move, coupled with the Greninjas to boost the Water damage of his sync.
Took a few tries, but I did it.
Calem makes rain and Serena makes the opponent weaker to water, so I suppose they worked out well.
And uh, yeah. I'm really not sure what it is because I have every Fire sync aside from Morty and several EX units there, yet I struggled here and for Kukui's stage with this type on 2k.
Who would be better on Cynthia's stage? Plumeria (underrated unit imo), Looker or Emma?
They're all EX too, but I'll have to grid Looker now that I got him to 3/5.
I'll pair them with Iris.
mellow linden
Emma and it’s not even close
The only possible issue is that you may need to reset for Poison RNG so that Emma can spam B Cross Poison, but that’s not a huge deal since you can just have Fall Iris use Acid turn 1 and reset if it doesn’t Poison
long thicket
Oh but, status effects off.
Didn't work with Lysandre for that reason, I'm pretty sure.
mellow linden
You need to change to a different parameter then
long thicket
Alright so I'll use a second setup.
mellow linden
Interference Immunity will give the same point value as No Status Conditions
long thicket
Thank gosh they added a save system for these.
mellow linden
And as long as you don’t need to flinch/confuse/trap the opponent you’ll be fine
You need to status Cynthia anyways because she has Healthy Advantage
soft gyro
tfw James is a 3 star but also a limited unit
tldr, I did a monotype run with only non-limited pairs
last stage is Poison, but since James can only be obtained from an event that happened years ago, it still counts as limited
and he can literally poison all at once in a single turn
perfect match for this week's Cynthia
river pagoda
does the additional effects of moves trait affect stat lowering moves too??
or is it only the trait tht specifically says additional stat lowering moves have a greater effect
tht benefits stat lowering moves
long thicket
Okay yeah, that went very well for Cynthia.
So 10k Sinnoh, might be the first time.
zinc island
Man this feels good i remember last time i did sinnoh CS i couldn't get to 10K now i can go all the way to 12.5K what a thrill
fringe valve
When your opponent has healthy advantages and you want to clear with Ethan.
wide adder
so ive got on type and off type and stall so far for presets... uh, what should my last preset be?
all i can think of is maybe something for unit testing perhaps
sinful garden
so ive got on type and off type and stall so far for presets... uh, what should ...
Ontype masochist from the sheet for when you are extremely bored
wide adder
apparently some people just stack hp and strength, judging by these replays
fringe valve
Pre sync perams>>>
dim depot
I am at a complete loss figuring out a team for Flint that gets the max points.
tired sleet
Here are just some damage dealer ideas before I can think about the supports
Aaron: SS Red
Bertha: SS Erika,
Lucian: SSR Cynthia
Flint: Giovanni (With SpAtk support)
Cynthia: (poison stall; a bad poisoner, spdef buffer)
tired sleet
I am at a complete loss figuring out a team for Flint that gets the max points.
What psychic strike/techs do you have
dim depot
Seriously how am I supposed to win this? Getting smacked with extremely high damaging moves, getting burned, and not doing nearly enough damage.
urban cave
I feel like they do a load of damage
tired sleet
If it’s not master mode it shouldn’t be as bad as some other people
urban cave
They get ult so fast though
tired sleet
It’s about the same as every other stage
dim depot
I'm using the 2.5k params. None of the presets I have made much of a difference since I'll never pre sync this.
This is what I got. I don't want to use Giovanni or SS Lusamine if I don't have to.
tired sleet
You have Bianca and SS Steven; they can totally pre sync the stage
urban cave
So what supports shoild I usr
tired sleet
It depends on how much type diversity you want rn. Generally you may want a tank that buffs defence/spdef/heals, but
SSR Cynthia also wants Atk/SpAtk buffs
Giovanni needs SpAtk buffs
SS Erika would appreciate another sun setter
SS Red doesn’t need much, but faster crit would be neat
tired sleet
You don’t have Blaine? He’s a 4* sync pair
urban cave
Nope!
dim depot
I had been using SS Steven as defense. So a cracked attacking unit is the only way to go it seems?
tired sleet
You can use lucian as a damage dealer if you want, stack
SS Steven’s Defense Forme is commonly seen as the worse of the 4 in their respective roles
urban cave
Is not Lucian is attack bad?
tired sleet
Lucian’s move damage is low, but his sync damage is extremely high
urban cave
So Lucian Elsa Giovanni?
dim depot
I can't survive on sync only damage. That would mean 4 syncs to clear the stage. I barely even make it to second sync
tired sleet
I can't survive on sync only damage. That would mean 4 syncs to clear the stage....
Lucian’s sync can one shot the left side and the right side afterwards, and Bianca can clean up with DPS
tired sleet
So Lucian Elsa Giovanni?
I was suggesting Lucian to Stack, but that team could also work. You could also replace Elesa with Sycamore and sync with him 1st
urban cave
In how many ply do you get sync
zinc island
I am at a complete loss figuring out a team for Flint that gets the max points.
At this point you problably already did it but try roxanne with endurance in her sync grid to buff special attack, lucian to lower the special defense amd giovanni as dps with psychic
mellow linden
This is what I got. I don't want to use Giovanni or SS Lusamine if I don't have ...
Get SS Steven to level 120 and nuke with Attack Forme
dim depot
I feel like you need 4 units to win this lol. Terrain setter. Defense and burn preventer. Stat debuffer, and an attacker.
tired sleet
Why would you need a debuffer
mellow linden
SS Steven + Bianca + 3rd
Heck, if you want I can go get my Caitlin and Bianca grids and you can use the team of Bianca + Caitlin + SS Lusamine that I did
civic trellis
Yeah ss steven can destroy flint first sync w psychic terrain, ig just bring a support who wont die to fire blast
mellow linden
In how many ply do you get sync
If you’re properly triple queueing then after your team’s 3rd set of actions you’ll have your Sync Move ready, assuming no form of Sync Countdown Acceleration is in play.
It’s best to wait until your team has finished their 3rd set of actions before queueing up the 4th set. That way you can queue your Sync Move 1st
dim depot
It's getting close
mellow linden
Did you level your SS Steven to 120 and is he using his Sync Move in Attack Forme under Psychic Terrain
dim depot
The sync move clears the sides but mid is still at half
mellow linden
That’s surprising, but you’re probably still fine
What’s the 3rd teammate you’re using?
dim depot
Ran Evelyn. Phew, barely cinched it. Hardest battle in weeks.
mellow linden
Ok, I think your parameters are…not great, most likely
Because half MP is rarely if ever used
dim depot
I don't remember what I changed out from the standard set for that but I probably found it more forgiving in more sets.
mellow linden
Generally there’s better options, but if it works it works, I guess
urban cave
What do I do for Aren
mellow linden
SS Red was recommended as a damage-dealer you can build a team around earlier
mellow linden
Could do SS Erika for a Sun setter
urban cave
I need Erika for Bertha sand tho
mellow linden
Unless you’re planning to use SS Erika against Bertha
Ah, yeah
In that case, could replace Torchic with Roxanne and use Blaine for the Sun setter
urban cave
I don't have Blaine
mellow linden
Oof
Well you’ll hopefully get him soon since he’s a 4-star. In the meantime I guess you could do Lucian (if you’re not using him elsewhere) or just a 2nd Support for better tanking
urban cave
I used him for Bruno
mellow linden
You mean Flint?
urban cave
Same thing
mellow linden
Language difference then, I assume.
Just a 2nd Support since you’ve used Lucian for the Flint battle
urban cave
Will sth like Lillie or Melon work
mellow linden
Anyone reasonably bulky should work, Roxanne can handle SS Red’s Sp. Atk. + Speed buffs and Red can buff his own crit (though if your 2nd Support can give +1 crit it’ll mean Red only has to spend 1 turn on Dire Hit+)
urban cave
My Destiny is bad?
mellow linden
It has use cases, but since Roxanne is already handling Sp. Atk. and Speed buffs there’s not really a point to using it in this case
urban cave
And it lowers defends which I find fucks me over at times
tulip python
I’m never underestimating Torterra again
That thing is a hilarious sync nuke
When paired with Celebi and Bulu
swift swan
Finally, a torterra truther
keen jasper
Hey, I used her during the EB 
old orchid
Maybe replace Probopass with a sun setter like Rapidash
And let Red buffs spatk by himself
urban cave
I don't have any sunsetters
urban cave
No
cinder summitBOT
General Pool
old orchid
Seriously?
urban cave
Yes
keen jasper
Even with the summons you don't have Blaine?
urban cave
Yes
keen jasper
Do you have Gordie?
old orchid
Can you send your roster here?
tulip python
Omg I forgot about Fire Rebuff users
old orchid
Can you send it again please
toxic cobalt
This does not have any move levels
Or any of the 3 or 4* like Blaine
You don't have Silver?
urban cave
Update: one ply before Heras second sync
I KOed it
Now on to Synthea
What's a general toxic stall team
keen jasper
Usually involves SS Leaf and OG Janine
Or if you don't have SS Leaf, Lucy or Koga
And a Synchro Healing tank
Like SwimMisty
urban cave
I have Green, yes
keen jasper
Not Green, Leaf
urban cave
What's swim misty
urban cave
Not Green, Leaf
Why Janine
keen jasper
Because she debuffs offensive stats and speed to any enemy that has a poison status
urban cave
I don't have that misty what should I use instead
urban cave
I can't use Sycamore
toxic cobalt
BP Morty
wide adder
learned a lot from my cs clear for the community event. glad that some brute forcing still worked with its limitations. now i can work on teams for next week as normal.
anyone know a good spatk buffer to pair with bp candice and irida? 
i kinda wanna save sc lillie for fairy stage b/c itll make it easier to account for pal serena
actually, are there any wise/sentry entries next week?
might need to change some team builds here if so already
First drafts excluding irida support
(if theres an infographic/cheat sheet for which CS weaknesses per region have stuff like wise/sentry x2's, thatd be great so i can just have it saved somewhere for the future. incase anyone has such a infographic)
swift swan
I don't think we have an infographic. Your best bet is pomatools
urban cave
Toxic stall wins!!!
keen jasper
LMFAO
wide adder
oof, both fairy and bug have wise x2
basically whole week wanting physical due to one reason or another. Ground mostly bc special ground barely exists and water debuffs special attack often
wide adder
Just shuffled around my units a bit for a new rough draft. I can figure it out further later.
Just picked a random physical nuke I like to replace bug team for now
trail smelt
oof, both fairy and bug have wise x2
Man what
vapid token
Bro is using all 100 of his preset slots 
full mesa
Bug isn't an issue, but Fairy...
full mesa
Luckily all Cynthia has is -1 Acc on entry.
full mesa
Mina exists
I haven't been able to presync mid with Mina yet.
I'm open to ideas and strategies.
old orchid
EX support and quad queue
toxic cobalt
Sleep
full mesa
Quad queue isn't an issue. I lack damage.
Her sync doesn't one shot
I'll try this week with Sycamore and something to buff the rest of her needs.
toxic cobalt
No her sync 2 shots
dark osprey
Sycamore with the EX and moonblast damage should work i guess. can put in any crit & attack buffer into the mix
soft gyro
Sycamore as dps can't keep up
dark osprey
f2p ish surgechu is a good option since defence buffs as well
soft gyro
Since his sync deals no damage and is only useful to buff once
dark osprey
yeah. was meant to be with Mina
mina, surgechu Sycamore
so there is an EX sync at least
and with defense buffs plus attack debuffs, there is a good chance to survive the sync
junior crown
Bug isn't an issue, but Fairy...
Can always poison stall or offtype if you prefer
full mesa
and with defense buffs plus attack debuffs, there is a good chance to survive th...
Am I aiming for post sync?
full mesa
Can always poison stall or offtype if you prefer
I know but I want to try before I have to resort to such underhanded strategies.
swift swan
poison stall and offtype is as valid as anything else 
either way, Mina should be easier to use now that she has fairy gear and EX if you so choose to EX her
i tried 2.5k Mina on Lance. it wasn't too difficult
old orchid
nov send your 2.5k clear with Mina
swift swan
#1011173305702690876 message
'twas before gear and EX
i imagine the only fairy-weak CS Mina will struggle against is Drasna because of the bulky HP. but we'll see how well she does with gear and EX when Drasna comes back
oh nevermind, Sidney is bulkier lol
old orchid
just post sync smh
swift swan
ew
mellow linden
Fairy weak Drasna’s main issue is how much damage she puts out. Your Supports will be one of the biggest determining factors in your success
Which is why, even though having 3/5 NY Lisa will be a great improvement as well, the biggest boost I’ll have when Kalos CS rolls back around is switching from Kiawe + Kali Supports to Anabel + Skyla Supports
latent eagle
Stat lowering is shit like lowering def and whatever right? Bc I feel like im doing this wrong
mellow linden
Yes, stat reductions are stuff like Defense debuffs
full mesa
Stat lowering is shit like lowering def and whatever right? Bc I feel like im do...
Even if a unit doesn't have multipliers based on opponents stats, lowering them is a free bonus helping everyone. Def/Spdef drops make the battle sorter, while att/spa drops help you survive for longer.
swift swan
counterpoint: not lowering them is free points 
i don't lower stats anymore unless my unit relies on some sort of debuff for multipliers
dark osprey
Am I aiming for post sync?
Pre sync. Just mentioned that worst case also you can still clear it
latent eagle
Is it a good idea to try and poison stall flint bc man's hard
toxic cobalt
It's a bit tricky if you get burnt, but it is of course possible
latent eagle
It's a bit tricky if you get burnt, but it is of course possible
Flameproof 
nocturne pawn
i dont think its worth the effort of trying
just try and abuse sync accel and someone with a good sync
keen jasper
Is it a good idea to try and poison stall flint bc <:SophoKEK:681916549812060200...
If you like getting a Fire Blast to the face by him, sure
Am saw dat 
toxic cobalt
Yeah, jsut not worth getting into
latent eagle
I am suffering against flint
toxic cobalt
Stalling is usually easy but some don't seem to accept that
keen jasper
The only time I ever stalled was during against fairy-weak Cynthia
toxic cobalt
What is the Flint team you are suffering with?
keen jasper
I was able to do Flint with Giovanni, Liza and BP Morty
latent eagle
Kinda just been switching around to see what would work but rn I got bp morty/gio/ch bede
latent eagle
Ch bede is only 1/5 non EX and I tried Bianca in a prev run and didn't work, im currently trying post sync para bc I keep getting sweeped other wise
toxic cobalt
Which Morty?
latent eagle
I said bp morty
old orchid
Just tried the same team but i didnt sync with CBede (mine is EX) and boosted Giovanni and the team worked with Bede having above half health
toxic cobalt
Giovanni strong
keen jasper
I was able to get Flint without even dropping his Sp. Def. with Giovanni
Because I had the No Stat Reduction parameter
And I ironically did it on R3
latent eagle
Yeah I'm doing it on R3 as well and I just
old orchid
Did you do triple queue every turn?
toxic cobalt
Or, are you flinching with BP Morty
keen jasper
Oh yeah, I also had the No Interference parameter too
But I was still able to get Flint before he synced
latent eagle
I try my best but with bede taking up 4 gauge it's difficult even with the free moves and I try flinching w/ morty
toxic cobalt
Just use his one gauge?
old orchid
I dont even see that as an issue
keen jasper
Just use Giovanni's Confusion if you feel like you're running out of gauges
old orchid
CBede doesnt eat too much gauge
toxic cobalt
Don't use confusion, Giovanni is trying to do damage
old orchid
Just use TM > B Move > TM > Confusion > B Move
If you grid Bianca, she can buff speed and has fast move charge on terrain
keen jasper
Don't use confusion, Giovanni is trying to do damage
If you look at my video, which I haven't uploaded it, you'll see
Ok, time to record my grids of my F2P clear
But first lemme fully charge my phone
keen jasper
Actually, I lied, I did Flint on R2
junior crown
Is it a good idea to try and poison stall flint bc <:SophoKEK:681916549812060200...
You can, but he is weak to Giovanni so you shouldn't have an issue ontyping
I'd recommend switching BP Morty to Liza
That team almost doesn't buff Giovanni SP attack, ChBede does but really slow
And flint only have 1 physical attack if I remember right
Liza will give you sp def and sp attack, but can change for someone else that does it, like SC Lillie or SC Jasmine
When you tried Bianca did you use Gio Bianca BP Morty? Because if you use Bianca It's better to go with Gio Bianca ChBede or Liza
mellow linden
Just to make sure we’re on the same page, what do you mean by “Normal challenge”?
keen jasper
Prolly means hard mode
mellow linden
I’m guessing that’s the case too, but I just want to make sure
keen jasper
Yeah, hard mode
mellow linden
Alright, just wanted to make sure since technically “Normal Mode” refers to the tutorial CS
You could build a team around:
-
Adaman or SS Erika for Bertha
-
Silver or Leon for Aaron
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Giovanni for Flint
-
Morty, Allister, or Shauntal for Lucian
-
Looker, Roxie, or Koga for Cynthia
north crown
keep in mind that if you want to unlock mm for a region, you need to use all 18 (sync) types. Make sure you're throwing in filler types wherever you can
toxic cobalt
Can anyone help me with Normal challenge?
How are you doing?
desert berry
Thank you all! Haven’t tried the team yet since I was out today but will definitely use it 
desert berry
How are you doing?
Hello Aurochs! 
will try using the team yet
sonic blaze
Can anyone help me with Normal challenge?
normal stadium... meaning no master mode parameters? with serena greninja and marnie moltres you got 2 free offtypes, u got powerful psychic/fire units to on-type those... and adaman 1/5 can prolly also destroy stages without master mode parameters... use tanks or supports that give u speed or make the enemy less annoying (flinch) and u should not have a hard time tbh.
old orchid
try to fill as many types as possible in the medal so that you can unlock Master Mode next week
old orchid
desert berry
You could build a team around:
- Adaman or SS Erika for Bertha
- Silver or Leo...
Thanks for this! Followed this guide 
north crown
sheeeeeesh a newbie getting 15 types first try?! les GO
keen jasper
I got 12 types when I first started my MM clear last year
edgy ermine
So.....Im having a lot of trouble with Lucian Hard in the Sinnoh Champion stage for some reason. I tend to get really lazy and follow the Successful Teams setup, most of the time not even needing to copy it
keen jasper
What round are you doing him?
edgy ermine
Is anyone able to tell me how the first team is getting permanent buffs and zones?
old orchid
Is anyone able to tell me how the first team is getting permanent buffs and zone...
#1009557516369281075 message
keen jasper
Is anyone able to tell me how the first team is getting permanent buffs and zone...
You're level 138?
edgy ermine
Yeah never had a problem with these Hard stages really but this one i was curious enough to watch the Replay
And Im like how is this person getting permanent buffs
edgy ermine
https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1009557516369281075/111586839925...
Someone from there literally sent me here lol
keen jasper
Have you read the round parameters?
edgy ermine
Yeah
soft gyro
Is anyone able to tell me how the first team is getting permanent buffs and zone...
Tldr, the first parameter of the CS makes all field effects permanent
That's how you get them, but it only works for the first battle you do in CS
edgy ermine
Oh wait Im noticing that now. It depends on the order how you play the CS ok wow Im slow
old orchid
Someone from there literally sent me here lol
i linked my explanation from that channel
dark osprey
for an f2p-ish run i feel that the Lucian stage would be the most difficult right? which round paramater may be helpful for that?
keen jasper
I off-typed Lucian using Solgaleo
dark osprey
oh nice. Solgaleo is actually real good now I guess
keen jasper
If you have Morty, you can use him
dark osprey
i tried on the stat lowering has more effect round to offset the wise entry but those buggers keep buffing special defenses and didn't even get the centre to -1
did a kind of run with Shauntal and Agatha but was with Giocat EX
but was hoping for special defense drops. I guess with the sleep thing, it is difficult to expect that
dusty yarrow
I know Phoebe doesn't enter f2p-ish so she does not count...
I did see an Acerola (Palossand) but the team it run isn't (Raihan-Flygon & Ingo)
Giovanni is the most clear the ones I've seen for f2p-ish (cuz they use Mew for Psychic)
swift swan
astonish DPS let's gooo
dark osprey
giovanni on 2K was quite good because the sync is offtype and no penalty on that
but 2.5K am not sure
old orchid
2.5k is mostly the same as 2k tho
swift swan
lucian doesn't have an inflated HP pool to begin with. debuff his sp defense for brainteaser, I'm sure it'll still be alright
just pick up standard dmg reduction still
dark osprey
i mean with good supports sure yeah
f2p supports are slightly on the non bulky side right
swift swan
ehh, depends
dark osprey
especially with the offtype paramaters
dusty yarrow
do remember Lucian has Satisfied Snarl 9 (+ Earthquake, it can debuff Gio's Sp.Atk if hit... not to mention Wise Entry x 2) but I guess just brute force it
swift swan
giovanni on lucian will still be taking ontype params either way
swift swan
do remember Lucian has Satisfied Snarl 9 (+ Earthquake, it can debuff Gio's Sp.A...
that's true, but fortunately it's on earthquake and you can pray he doesn't use it often. critical hits ignore negative offensive stats anyway
dark osprey
giovanni on lucian will still be taking ontype params either way
but then needs the sync from someone else right?
swift swan
sync with ex support. even better if said support has synchro healing, perhaps
dark osprey
the second sync though
old orchid
Critical Strikes does negate debuffs right?
crit ignores offensive debuffs and defensive buffs on opponents
just use double ex support
dusty yarrow
Lounge Morty or BP Morty perhaps for sync
swift swan
just use double ex support
was about to say
dusty yarrow
oh right Shauntal...
but f2p tends to not include Gacha right?
wait its f2p-ish... my bad
old orchid
according to the damage doc, Giovanni has better dps 
yeah you should get Shauntal easily
dusty yarrow
I mean its Shauntal or Agatha... and if the latter... you might just cheese the stage with sleep
swift swan
3 and 4* low gacha pairs are considered f2p. you can net them from the free daily scout, after all
dusty yarrow
you can run both Shauntal and Gio I guess with a Sp.Atk buffer Support
swift swan
let's see what aurochs will do in their f2p run against lucian
or i can go check their old sinnoh runs but 
keen jasper
Well, I did Skyla, Solgaleo and Hop against Lucian R3
dark osprey
ah that seems nice. Hop does add to the dps I guess
dusty yarrow
I mean it works cuz you bypass Lucian's "Anti-Special" Gimmick (Wise Entry x2 and Satisfied Snarl Sp.Atk debuff)
also... my old 10k Sinnoh CS team is just a Shauntal team
dark osprey
that looks like a nice team with Phoebe
old orchid
y'all should try dps Kiawe and nuke Phoebe
dark osprey
whoa. yeah. plus acerola as well
toxic cobalt
you can run both Shauntal and Gio I guess with a Sp.Atk buffer Support
Roxanne you say
dusty yarrow
I did a Phoebe team for the 12.5k (take advantage of the -50% HP thing so you can access Sync Emergency and Power Reserve quicker)
dusty yarrow
Roxanne you say
she does have a nice EX
dark osprey
shauntal may not be able to complete her crit though
does she have sharp entry as well?
dusty yarrow
if only lounge counts for f2p-ish then lounge morty can be an option
dark osprey
that sounds fun. wish phoebe gets a grid expansion
keen jasper
if only lounge counts for f2p-ish then lounge morty can be an option
Well, me and Eevee count it
By lounge you mean lodge?
dark osprey
but lodge morty is based on obtaining 5* gacha morty right
dusty yarrow
that sounds fun. wish phoebe gets a grid expansion
hear me out (can be highly copium)
- Double-Edge: Ghost Shift
dark osprey
That honestly should have been a passive at base itself
versed meteor
Every damn ghost unit in the game uses special why tf does lucian have wise entry
keen jasper
Because they want you to pull SSR Cynthia
versed meteor
Shadow force has 3 uses how fucking strong does your Cynthia have to be to one shot?
old orchid
You forgot her sync
keen jasper
Though I'm surprised the recommended team doesn't involve her
dark osprey
Whoa. Even with ss korina too would like SSR Cynthia
versed meteor
Where f2p clear?
twin flare
so ive got on type and off type and stall so far for presets... uh, what should ...
I did pre sync and post sync on-type
swift swan
Where f2p clear?
the gaming eevee's f2p video is already out I believe
keen jasper
I also have my own clear
rotund lagoon
They’re all in the pins
dark osprey
There's always poison stall
proud axle
Shadow force has 3 uses how fucking strong does your Cynthia have to be to one ...
She's a Master Pair, she provides Ghost Zone, and she gets SEUN when she uses Shadow Force.
You can time Shadow Force to land with an EX Support buff on the left sidekick for an OHKO denial, OHKO the right side with another Shadow Force for another denial, recast Ghost Zone, and slam Lucian himself with her sync
toxic cobalt
Just saw this weeks field parameters. Amazing
dark osprey
The question is who do you use it against
dark osprey
Ah nice. I too did that
main crow
Using Lucian on R3 Flint hits real different
nocturne pawn
do we know round parameters for each week or no
dark osprey
No
proud axle
Not until the week is actually here
wide adder
Ignore the sides — do these rough ideas for ice dps per round sound good? (Just the middle units)
Figured I’d start planning a rough idea now since I know I’ll prob have no new units for it
versed meteor
Those 100 team slots are really getting their use huh
soft gyro
That honestly should have been a passive at base itself
iirc, Type Shift passives were made to make Lance have his iconic Hyper Beam without being completely useless due to offtyping
dark osprey
Yeah. It became a lazy way to give good dps for each type
Don't think it will make Phoebe any broken though
soft gyro
tbf, some types do not have canon moves without that kind of high power
thus, in some cases, the type shift is justified
main crow
I'm surprised we still don't have an electric shift giga impact
noble plaza
north crown
Time to invade this channel now that LG is gone
Oh yeah Ice CS is coming I forgor 💀
Doesn’t seem that bad. Just offtype/poison stall while saving Ghetsis for trhe champion
rotund lagoon
#GlaciaSweep
wide adder
Those 100 team slots are really getting their use huh<:WEEZing:73204436855422989...
Yeah I have been using a bunch of them each gauntlet since we got the expanded limit
Also I don’t entirely get what the ice champion wants. Just any status to turn off healthy advantage or whatever it is?
Or does it favor a physical or special too or something
proud axle
She's a Master Pair, she provides Ghost Zone, and she gets SEUN when she uses Sh...
I just playtested this and... Yeah, Renegade Cynthia can OHKO both sidekicks even with only 1/5 vs 2500pts, and then her sync OHKOs the boss
civic trellis
Those 100 team slots are really getting their use huh<:WEEZing:73204436855422989...
44 of my teams r just CS
proud axle
Her own two partners only need to tank and advance the sync countdown.
proud axle
44 of my teams r just CS <:WEEZing:732044368554229892>
A phys team for each type, a Special team for each type... That's 36. Add five stall teams and that's 41. Phys offtype and Spec offtype bring it to 43... One team for memes?
tired sleet
Also I don’t entirely get what the ice champion wants. Just any status to turn o...
She wants SS N, who has Piercing Blows and Paralysis
And speed debuffs too
wide adder
Sadly I don’t have ssn and prob won’t have the gems to grab despite favorite bc wanting to grab zoroark
tired sleet
Then use Sophocles 
wide adder
Does she have wise or anything like that restricting the teambuild beyond speed debuffs and a status?
tired sleet
Nope
wide adder
Might just use irida plus a para applier then
Seems like a two for one on the type and speed debuff. Guess it depends on what I do to handle the others
I also could do someone else plus pserena I assume
Lot of options since I have units like pserena in my box
civic trellis
A phys team for each type, a Special team for each type... That's 36. Add five s...
39 E4/Champs + 5 for special CS
My other teams are 11 for LA/LG, 8 for region rotation, 5 for events, 3 for EBEs, 3 for BCs, and just one extra team
sand karma
Is there a difference between strength 3 and strength 2+1?
I've seen this convo before but I forgor
toxic cobalt
No, strength is additive
lost gulch
for some reason this works
even tho lucian has 2x sp def
no frozen turn denials btw
dark osprey
nice. what move level is Irida?
honestly i feel nukes have become more valuable for offtyping now. Strikers find it more difficult to offtype maybe barring the 2 broken MFs Ash & CMarnie
bronze onyx
You don't need that level of power
Even older comps like SS Red / Lillie / Gordie still work without any of the top tiers
bronze onyx
honestly i feel nukes have become more valuable for offtyping now. Strikers find...
I realized I hadn't done MM this week yet, so just to illustrate for the Wise Entry x2 stage with a special striker nuke
swift swan
beautiful
old orchid
Even pre sync
swift swan
this makes me so annoyed I had trouble using SS Red on 3k Aaron... fake fan
then again I wasn't carrying any sun setter due to my challenge run
old orchid
dark osprey
I realized I hadn't done MM this week yet, so just to illustrate for the Wise En...
That seems like a good team tbh to compensate for the wise entry part. But just seems easier with nukes nowadays
zealous karma
this makes me so annoyed I had trouble using SS Red on 3k Aaron... fake fan
Me not running a support on 2/4 of the E4 fights
tired sleet
Wow richu can’t teambuild confirmed 
zealous karma
So true
keen jasper
Imagine not knowing teambuilding
zealous karma
Not my fault when my supports suck
thin pecan
How are you supposed to do the ghost guy this week
We don’t have any good physical ghost units
plush tangle
off type
tired sleet
Morty or Gladion work
The stronger special ghost types would still be able to beat it
plush tangle
toxic stall works too
tired sleet
Lillie totally works
thin pecan
What support did you use
plush tangle
cynthia has a physical sync 
thin pecan
Yeah
plush tangle
how did it not work
thin pecan
Because her sync only does 10k
zealous karma
Only 
tired sleet
This was a dumb challenge team but Anni Lillie totally works
Edit: this was 2750 pts too 
thin pecan
And sides OHKO Cynthia
plush tangle
what are your parameters lol
thin pecan
Post sync physical
I tried pre sync but they were unable to kill mid before sync
Is dog just there for move accel
plush tangle
and actually tank
tired sleet
Is dog just there for move accel
Dog was there since there was an event forcing me to use certain sync pairs; and she was one of the best tanks I had
I didn’t even use Sonia’s support ex
tired sleet
Is this 1/5 Lillie?
plush tangle
what round are you on
thin pecan
1
Should I switch it to another
I thought round one would be the best one since ghost type is such a weak type
So it needs the best bonus
Got him. Just needed to target sides first.
plush tangle
ah
mellow linden
Why would you Sync with A. Lillie if you have SSR Cynthia
nocturne pawn
ALillie doesnt ignore x2 passive so shes just being a gauge hog for no reason
zealous karma
If aLillie can 3.5K off type I’m sure she’s fine against this stage considering Gio is fine too
tired sleet
This was a dumb challenge team but Anni Lillie totally works
Edit: this was 2750...
Yea she can totally carry, even with non synergistic allies
(Ofc this was 3/5 EX Lillie but SSR Cynthia is more beneficial than Lillie’s full grid)
bronze onyx
Even without ignoring Wise Entry x2, Anni Lillie is basically fighting a neutral stage with the added bonus of Super Preparation boosting some of her hits