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old orchid
you can queue Sandstorm again before the first sync
swift swan
That's why you reapply sandstorm before it goes out
swift swan
Yup, TM, TM, sandstorm for bertha
old orchid
Bertha is such a good unit 
swift swan
So glad i stole all the bertha luck from other helpers 
In exchange, I still only have 1/5 for aaron and lucian 
old orchid
crystal notch
oh no marley died
time to rng for their side to buff enough times
so marley doesn't die
old orchid
i would tank with Bertha
swift swan
My bertha tanked high horsepower just fine
Though I'm surprised, since Marley has better bulk than Bertha
old orchid
Marley is Ground weak
crystal notch
on kahili?
old orchid
wait 
swift swan
...oh whoops 
i forgot this is vs Kahili 
Yeah, probably just bad RNG then. Brave bird hurts
crystal notch
fine, reset gacha time
...huh, olivia only did 3k on sync
probably didn't crit
L
old orchid
also make sure you didnt pick Physical Dmg Reduction by accident
crystal notch
checked already
old orchid
crystal notch
yeah it just didn't crit
marley died at a crucial time
and prevented second sync
sigh
crystal notch
can sonia deal with teamwide toxi
zealous karma
So glad i stole all the bertha luck from other helpers <:LucianScheme:9926368777...
I also have her 3/5 so this was before my time!
old orchid
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crystal notch
right salamence
old orchid
Salamence doesnt have Go Viral
crystal notch
huh
grand steppe
Bertha can tank better than Marley with Sand Castle 2.
You need to just get lucky and not have Brave bird queued twice
old orchid
does the Marley grid you are using has TM Hit and Heal?
crystal notch
yes? we're talking about arcanine marley right
grand steppe
What params are you doing? I think full offensive pre sync is going to be difficult without potion / reflect
old orchid
if no, i suggest using this grid: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/9700/5900?s=5&l=140&r=3&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBgcKDA8TFhomKCkqLA
crystal notch
What params are you doing? I think full offensive pre sync is going to be diffic...
tank friendly btw
kahili crits so, so hard...this is slash, not brave bird
...time to rng for no toxic instead, then?
dark osprey
Is your Olivia 2/5?
north crown
Might be worth a try. Most pairs that got an expanded grid became viable
I never needed to use him tho
So I can’t say if he is able to pre sync or not
dark osprey
Pre sync yes. He's very good actually. Did try with Brock and Hop
Brock helped with healing and toxic plus defense debuffs
grand steppe
I've gridded everything she can afford on 2/5
I’m curious if you are syncing the left side first so you can KO it. Or does it not go down with just the sync move?
north crown
Brock helped with healing and toxic plus defense debuffs
Wait he can debuff def?
crystal notch
I’m curious if you are syncing the left side first so you can KO it. Or does it ...
mmm, I was focusing on the center
dark osprey
Wait he can debuff def?
Just chances with rock throw on grid
Not much but honest work
north crown
Could probably run kukui instead
north crown
Especially if you have access to his staggering node
grand steppe
Try KO ing left with sync, and then using stone edge on right for double denial.
crystal notch
will try tomorrow
junior crown
or you can poison stall her, it works too
grand steppe
If you status reflect the toxic will go viral 9 proc on all the opponents? 
full mesa
Now that's interesting.
dark osprey
Don't think so. It would just reflect the infliction part right
storm quest
So Giovanni and Lucian destroyed Acerola. I'm not having luck using 2/5 Olivia with Bertha and Marley against Kahili though. Olivia is simply not putting out remotely enough damage. I don't think I'm doing it wrong, but it's just not even close. I guess if she was EX it would be fine, since I can KO mid (after it syncs though, even on presync parameters) but then die to sides.
Olivia is maxing speed but not attack, which... I dunno, maybe I need to use a different support
white bramble
Can I complete these this week
grand steppe
Can I complete these this week
If it’s less than 15 types, the yes. Which it is.
grand steppe
Olivia is maxing speed but not attack, which... I dunno, maybe I need to use a d...
Use X attack twice and then get ATK from flag bearer from Marley.
Did you try using your sync to KO the left side mid queue instead of trying to solo mid?
storm quest
Use X attack twice and then get ATK from flag bearer from Marley.
Should Marley's X Speed or Flagbearer Flame Wheel take precedence? There doesn't seem to be a way to get all 6 speed and attack before the first sync.
storm quest
Did you try using your sync to KO the left side mid queue instead of trying to s...
I did try this, did maybe 25% to left side on first sync
idk why so bulky
grand steppe
You can’t guarantee the ATK raise from flag bearer anyway so just focus on speed
storm quest
Mkay, that's what I was doing.
grand steppe
With +4 ATK +6 speed and sandstorm you can’t KO left?
storm quest
Accidentally, that image was with post-sync parameters.
This was with tank-friendly, except trading hp up 2 for no stat reduction
Somehow even less damage?
grand steppe
Is this crit?
grand steppe
Sync & max moves only have 80% chance to crit with max ranks
storm quest
Well that... I did not know.
grand steppe
With +7 strength it should only have 99 def and less than 10,000 health
storm quest
That appeared to be a crit. Did 7800 or so
zealous karma
Does she have cs2
storm quest
That... err, actually now that you mention it, I don't think so. I only just got her recently 
grand steppe
7800 is pretty low this must be high strength or defenses
zealous karma
7.8K sounds like a non crit from Olivia
storm quest
Given how much it did the first time, this seemed like a crit.
She is only 2/5, if that... makes it make sense?
grand steppe
Oh 2/5
zealous karma
I took some def params to offset mine being ex but I didn’t take sand blaster
So yours should be doing maybe a little more if you’re not taking def params and have sandblaster
grand steppe
2/5 probably isn’t going to KO left then.
Even with cs2 you probably won’t get above 9k damage first sync
storm quest
Yeah, no defensive parameters. But it does seem the missing sync tiles are the factor I don't have so.. Meh.
zealous karma
I also don’t have standard dr and have strength 3 so lel
So should be a doing a couple bit more than me
I think Olivia one shotting a side isn’t out of question at least
grand steppe
Can you tell us which parameter set your using?
storm quest
On-type pre-sync (tank friendly) but I swapped Max HP 2 for No Stat Reduction to lessen their bulk
grand steppe
Even strength +9 Olivia should be able to KO
storm quest
Mine is just not tuned enough, it seems. lv120, no EX, and only 2/5
I can fish for cs2, see what happens, but I'm not confident it will be quite enough
zealous karma
You underestimate how much it a boost it is
grand steppe
You underestimate how much it a boost it is
Well it’s less than 20%
But that’s about how much of that health bar was left
At 120 without cs2, I’m getting 9333 as the highest damage roll
(This is with the tank friendly params)
storm quest
If I could manage to pop the left side that way, what does it look like for the other two? I don't seem to be able to quad-queue, even using sandstorm before the sync, they queue a move before my sync goes off.
grand steppe
Are you using round 1?
storm quest
Round 2
zealous karma
I was round one
grand steppe
With Bertha you need to refresh sandstorm before the end of turn 3
Otherwise enemy will use field end effect as queue window
Olivia: x ATK twice, and TM once
Bertha: TM twice and sandstorm last
Marley: x speed twice use TM if toxic came out
storm quest
Okay, got cs2. Will try again.
Does Bertha's position in that order matter? Because that's how I was doing it, and they still queued
grand steppe
Well in order to do a left denial you need to let them queue anyway, by delaying the sync move as the last move on the turn it’s ready. Otherwise you’d queue the sync move first and your other two Allies with it.
storm quest
grand steppe
Yep just focus mid
storm quest
That was a crit, right?
Can't comprehend how it's... less... with cs 2 that I didn't have before
grand steppe
Well it can range between 10% for damage rolls
The health bar is around the spot as your other screenshots
storm quest
Ah, fair enough
manic kiln
they also got def buffs
paper summit
enemy buffs are irrelevant if you crit
sure way to tell if the move is a crit is seeing CS2 pop up
apart from the sound cue
grand steppe
Yeah unless you drop some of the strength for +ATK your not going to KO left
paper summit
isn't Roark just plain better unless Olivia is 3/5 and EX anyway?
maybe you can go with both but forget about sand
paper summit
yeah, I figured, him for pure dps and Olivia for the nuke, but sandless, just Inertia
devout sluice
Oh and if anyone ever having trouble with Acerola, give your parameters GH so her “Over Here!” doesn’t activate GH.
I forgotten to mention that yesterday.
storm quest
Someone point out the probably-obvious reason it won't let me quad-queue please 
Recoil, sand damage, gradual healing maybe? I dunno.
grand steppe
Hmm, the same team doesn’t cause Olivia’s team to queue immediately
I wonder if it’s recoil?
storm quest
Yeah weird, if she uses Aerial Ace instead of Brave Bird, I can quad
Well, if I could press the button fast enough anyway
grand steppe
I think it has to be a combination of recoil + sand. Interesting
storm quest
Haha yeah, she just missed with brave bird and it doesn't disrupt the quad queue
But meh. Even KOing middle pre-sync, the followup stone edges aren't enough to burn the sides down before heat wave and blizzard wrecks my team.
grand steppe
Any support ex?
storm quest
Sycamore probably works.. he works most anywhere lol. I would use yamper if not for the toxic
grand steppe
The toxic isn’t a guarantee
Yamper or blue + roark and Olivia might work out
Unless your low on 
storm quest
Will have to see what Roark needs
junior crown
or you can poison stall her too
if you're not planning on using Sonia anywhere else
storm quest
That was gonna be my fallback for sure. I was just trying to see how many of these I could do this region without needing to resort to toxic hahaha
junior crown
She would be the best there, using Roark Sync build + Olivia DPS or Roark DPS + Olivia Sync...
I never used them, but is Roark Sync better than Grant Sync?
lime willow
Is 3/5 Gengar allister good enough to beat 2k mm ghost weak without zone?
tired sleet
Yes, but it depends on which teammates you bring
zealous karma
Someone point out the probably-obvious reason it won't let me quad-queue please ...
I know I may be 3 hours late but I do have an answer, if you queue your field effect when jt is about to end for some reason it does not completely overwrite it and it’ll play it as if the animation were still ending forcing the enemy to queue you’d have to queue it as the first move of third cycle or second move to prevent this
It has nothingto do with recoil tho, all recoil is doing here is prolonging the animations
storm quest
That's.. odd. It was consistently allowing me to quad queue any time the enemy did not use brave bird, but they would always queue when they did brave bird before my sync. I'll play with it some more later.
old orchid
Who is your tank and what round are you playing?
If its R1 its impossible to quad queue without some tricks
storm quest
It was round 2. Was having Bertha tank with Sand Castle.
zealous karma
That's.. odd. It was consistently allowing me to quad queue any time the enemy d...
Cause brave bird likely had a shorter animation than aerial ace
old orchid
Do you use Sandstorm before the first sync?
storm quest
Someone point out the probably-obvious reason it won't let me quad-queue please ...
I was refreshing it before the first sync, yeah. This video was the move order I was using.
I think the conclusion we came to is that Olivia at only 2/5 and not EX doesn't have the damage, at least not in that team comp and at lv120
old orchid
I see the reason now, its because of Sand Castle proc
Can you try using the first sync on Delibird?
zealous karma
Like here’s a video example you can hear Electric Terrain ending but it was just refreshed
Can you grid Roark he may be easier than using 2/5 Olivia
storm quest
Can you try using the first sync on Delibird?
That resulted in roughly 80% damage to delibird (about 7k damage)
zealous karma
Star raid
old orchid
Thats a cool name actually
storm quest
Yep
I haven't looked yet to see what I need to grid Roark, but I probably can. Just annoying since I spent the orbs on Olivia already 😅
zealous karma
Roark is much less teamrelaint than Olivia so if you are short of sync orbs you can wait a couple days for a team centered around Roark I’d recommend Hop and maybe a defense debuffer
zealous karma
I haven't looked yet to see what I need to grid Roark, but I probably can. Just ...
Well long term it’ll be good when you get 3/5 Olivia and are willing to Ex her
zealous karma
She’s more sync focused while Roark is more DPS centric (Roark does have a nuke but he’s does have to choose between that or head smash tho)
I forget the salamance even had go viral toxic lel
zealous karma
He can b it you miss out on DD5
Not that he needs it tho he’s pretty strong
Smth like this altho I personally take SF3 since I never find missing with Roark a big issue
old orchid
You learn new things everyday, no worry
storm quest
I get a bit cheeky after doing a few max points CSMMs and then get checked each next region lol
old orchid
Alola is one of the mid difficult regions, along with Unova
You should prepare for the next region, which is likely Kalos
Actually you should prepare for the top 3 hardest regions, which are Sinnoh, Hoenn and Kalos
brave halo
Context, this is for water cs in two weeks, this used to have cyrus, but recently rose gloria to 3/5, should I still use cyrus here or would gloria be better due to surging?
Realized I should swap classic gio to someone else since most likely not needed
storm quest
Actually you should prepare for the top 3 hardest regions, which are Sinnoh, Hoe...
Unova was the first mm I did, before when it was 10k.
I wouldn't even know where to begin with preparing for thise other ones. I've sorta been taking them as they come
old orchid
Context, this is for water cs in two weeks, this used to have cyrus, but recentl...
That team is fine
May + Cyrus is excellent duo since both use special moves, so you get 100 free points
But DjGloria is so good that you can ignore the free 100 points
storm quest
It looks like Roark can do it, using Sonia and Marley, though I still need a bit of rng luck. Turns out, Team Swift Reaction also causes quad-queue failures if it procs before my sync
zealous karma
He it does it’s why many people run adrenaline on Ex Sonia’s but Roark is very strong lel
old orchid
Does that hurt the team? Idk
It hurts a bit since May only has +2 crit and +2 spatk if you dont grid TM MPR
old orchid
It looks like Roark can do it, using Sonia and Marley, though I still need a bit...
Thats why Adrenaline is a good pick of lucky skill for her
tired sleet
It hurts a bit since May only has +2 crit and +2 spatk if you dont grid TM MPR
Dire Rain helps fix that, but it doesn’t help syncs iirc
brave halo
I have all three grids from the guide on may at least and have it set to this
If anything my only other option is to just remove may completely and not focus on rain
zealous karma
Why would you do that?
brave halo
Wait hold up, what if I try this?
north crown
isn't glojo sself sufficient?
hop isn't needed. could probably have marley as sole support since she can support may's missing buffs
old orchid
Just use the old team
Replace Marley with rain unit
If you want to use Hop
Hop provides atk buffs, which saves DjGloria a turn
north crown
I have the feeling that SpeedTy wants to use glojo cuz favs
brave halo
Well mainly due to being water
old orchid
Dire Rain helps fix that, but it doesn’t help syncs iirc
Thats right
north crown
bruh why did you pull her 💀
iirc Cyrus does more water DPS than her
brave halo
I originally had cyrus for this, but now I recently rose her to 3/5
old orchid
bruh why did you pull her 💀
iirc Cyrus does more water DPS than her
Having an useful tech like her doesnt hurt
north crown
could probably rush for sync with another mon to help reduce sync countdown
even a sleeper/flincher would work there, tho idk if it's worth giving up rain
perhaps Elio?
brave halo
I mainly chose hop here cause healing, that Passive of lesser damage doesn't hurt, that and while not too important I know, the theme activation looks good
Well the passive only happens once but still
brave halo
This is for regular cs, not attempting mm yet
north crown
oh then Cyrus, May, and/or Glojo should be able to solo as DPS. You shouldn't worry about teambuilding that much, especially since you (should) know how easy "hard mode" is compared to mm
Just make sure you fill out your type medal
old orchid
You still need a proper tank for CSMM
old orchid
healing...?!?! for CSMM?!?!
Everyone has different playstyle, please dont force your playstyle on each other
brave halo
I am still working on getting everyone grids, just finished arc blue and moving onto FrosCandice
Needed an actual strike ice
old orchid
BP Candice is worse than Ghetsis
brave halo
Still I barely have much for ice, and needed to do something for potential other stages in the future
old orchid
Ghetsis is still better
brave halo
All my most used characters got grids anyway, this is more picking up loose ends or whatevs
old orchid
You should save these orbs for emergency needs tbh
zealous karma
Is she truly that bad she’s got a lot of multipliers but never tested
brave halo
OK first off lol on that typo, second this was gonna happen regardless
nocturne pawn
though i guess ghetsis isnt that much better cuz he has speed innate but only -1 on a 4 gauge aoe
brave halo
This is a me thing but every character, good, bad, etc is getting a grid
zealous karma
bp or base
BP I use base candice a lot
nocturne pawn
idk 288 spatk is very 💀
its probably because of that
heavy hail 5 and double down 3 is decent but that spatk stat is downright depressing
zealous karma
idk 288 spatk is very 💀
I think SSEirika is lower
nocturne pawn
solar blade isnt affected by an aoe penalty though
old orchid
SS Erika is loaded with multipliers and her moves have high BP
nocturne pawn
^
old orchid
Erika sync has innate multiplier while Candice doesn't
zealous karma
Oh right but I though BpCandice also had a lot of multipliers
old orchid
You mean OG Lusamine?
nocturne pawn
126 isn’t too bad cause LuSSa hits super hard with jt 🐴
thats not getting penalized though
or did you mean pheromosa
zealous karma
Not lusa base Lusamime auto correct
old orchid
nocturne pawn
lusa has superduper effective 1 on blizzard and pr5
and thats backed by 516 spatk
soooo
zealous karma
I thought it was only powerflux one
swift swan
power reserves 5 is good and all, but you're teetering on the edge of death
and blizzard is AOE
nocturne pawn
and blizzard is AOE
not hard to do cuz she has paper for defense
at least they were sensible enough to give her endure
she’d be so garbage if she didnt
swift swan
at most you can do 3-4 blizzards before you get hit by another AOE, it's reset heavy
old orchid
Her Blizzard build isnt viable imo
nocturne pawn
you’d need someone to buff acc
brave halo
Oh I forgot that pryce was 3/5 and able to be given a full grid already, Candice still getting a grid anyway but still good to know I had at least 1 ice strike
zealous karma
Oh I forgot that pryce was 3/5 and able to be given a full grid already, Candice...
Pryce isn’t any better
brave halo
It's still something, all my other ice strikes don't got grids yet
zealous karma
Pryce really isn’t too great ibe hded him alongside arguably his 2 best partners and he still struggled majorly and even with a master passive and trying to setup freeze he’d be doing at most 1K chip damage to sides, if he had freeze it’d be 3K which Ghetsus hits normally
brave halo
Yeah I haven't really touched ice recently, kinda same with bug that also in the same week with water as conversed about earlier
zealous karma
Ghetsus is pretty much all you need for ice if you get 3/5 hala someday he’ll be better if you ex him
brave halo
Well ok to be fair bug can be easier to build if fire wasn't also in the same week, cause if I'm using fire I have to use ssmorty and silver there
nocturne pawn
i dont feel it with hala
i dont know what i did wrong but his sync was only like 15k on type in 2k cs
and debuffing your own speed is just ick
paper summit
he is a striker
formal vigil
With super effective next?
old orchid
For Ice type dmg dealer, just grid Hala and Ghetsis for now
mellow linden
Ghetsis + Candice should cover Ice weak stages with maybe an exception of entry x2 stages
paper summit
what is so strange about a 15k sync from a striker?
mellow linden
Regular Candice, specifically
old orchid
Mind you that Hala has SEUN
nocturne pawn
what is so strange about a 15k sync from a striker?
people hype him up a lot but idk it just felt whelming like its not anything that special
paper summit
hmm, idk, I never have issues using him, granted mine is EX'd
brave halo
Here we go, this is currently what I'm having to rock for bug that week, like I said ssmorty and silver take up fire otherwise morty would've been in the bug team for Burgh
marsh crater
I finish this week cs too early. So boring. Last week total bust cause this is my first alola cs clear
nocturne pawn
last week kukui just wouldnt die
and his stage modifier was boosted physical
so ouch my bones
i got 10k though so
marsh crater
Guzma gollisopod is actually good? Or alder better?
formal vigil
Alder definitely better
paper summit
Guzma isn't great
formal vigil
Guess they don't have him
paper summit
Alder is significantly stronger than any gen pool or f2p bug
marsh crater
I Built bugsy. Oh well time to use alder. Have him 2/5
formal vigil
Because perma bug is kinda
nocturne pawn
Guzma is just sad tonuse
marsh crater
Pheromossa good?
nocturne pawn
only multiplier is critastrophe 2 and his dps is borderline unusable
marsh crater
I dun have her tho
formal vigil
Alright ig
nocturne pawn
Pheromossa good?
shes imo annoying to use effectively cuz she needs to proc pr5 and ideally wants pf3
old orchid
Pheromosa is good for Bug weak content if you can keep her alive
nocturne pawn
and she gets folded by any aoes in cs
formal vigil
Imagine if you put striker damage x3
brave halo
I was stumped between lusamine or guzma, but figured since i have ex sonia now I can run her with guzma due to triple queuing into first impression with all the boosts from the other two
nocturne pawn
doesnt using his tm lock you out of first impression
paper summit
yes
brave halo
I meant I use the other two tms first, then first impression
paper summit
you can't do absolutely anything before or it will fail
old orchid
Except syncing, doing anything first will make First Impression fail
formal vigil
paper summit
basically he depends completely on teammates for setup, like, some people meme with buffing him to absurd levels to then nuke something with First Impression
brave halo
I can still use the other tms from the others tho, that's a +6 attack first impression
old orchid
Then you mess up with queueing
mellow linden
Oh, that reminds me, has anyone done a max First Impression Guzma meme with SC Ingo and SC Steven yet?
brave halo
And I just noticed I never updated his grid
old orchid
No one has done that iirc
brave halo
At least he got all the custom at the moment
old orchid
Better not touching First Impression
formal vigil
Wouldn't you want to replace sc ingo with an attack crit buffer
old orchid
Guzma has Burst In, but he cant get +6 atk
old orchid
Toss Ingo and use Hilbert instead
old orchid
Unless Guzma is EX, Bugsy is better than him
brave halo
Bugsy doesn't have a grid yet
mellow linden
Bugsy + Noland or Lusamine is generally the way to go for physical Bug if you lack SC Emmet
formal vigil
Lusamine?
mellow linden
Lunge damage is still pretty strong on Lusamine
crystal notch
Turns out sc steven has team immunizing command
crystal notch
Ok great
mellow linden
So assuming no physical move is used between uses there shouldn’t be an issue
crystal notch
so as long as kahili doesn't click brave bird twice, and her slashes don't crit
I can run Bertha Olivia Sc Steven
Bertha is tanking there
formal vigil
Just run vigilance on her
brave halo
Bugsy + Noland or Lusamine is generally the way to go for physical Bug if you la...
The only one I got a grid for atm for those three is lusamine
brave halo
I just wish she didn't have paper defenses
mellow linden
I mean, unless you’re running Sync nuke Bertha her damage is pitiful
crystal notch
Hmm, as in, how many times would Bertha ever be in a tanking situation
If its often then I dont mind vigil
formal vigil
Do you use her to nuke like at all?
mellow linden
Not that often, but she has some nice value as a pseudo-tank/secondary tank in teams that need Sandstorm
crystal notch
Do you use her to nuke like at all?
I just offtype ground
paper summit
...wasting vigil on Bertha?
techs can forgo damage increasing lucky skills sometimes, because multipliers get diluted the more of them you have, and techs usually have a bunch
tired sleet
CS2/WW3 isn’t that good on bertha since most of her nuke power comes from multipliers, so adding another 20-30% isn’t that much
And sand tomb is weak
crystal notch
Notef
brave halo
I've been using Bertha for tanking for ground, she helps Naomi a lot
swift swan
Hmm, as in, how many times would Bertha ever be in a tanking situation
I tank with her a lot ngl
tame gust
man. I hate not having any decent answers for ground weak other than "just OT it lmao"
brave halo
man. I hate not having any decent answers for ground weak other than "just OT it...
OK yeah im dumb af as usual but what did OT mean again for this game? The only thing on my brain is Over triggers in vanguard
trail smelt
OK yeah im dumb af as usual but what did OT mean again for this game? The only t...
Off type
crystal notch
I tank with her a lot ngl
Good news yall, turns out I just shortcircuited my brain while trying to deny left
Kept queueing it on first slot for quadqueue
Pretty dumb
old orchid
crystal notch
So yeah ground solved with Bertha Sc Steven Olivia
11k on stone edge with two PUN certainly makes you wonder...
And brute forced molayne
With ssa cynthia steoxys and whitney
Flinch gaming moment
Darkrai was kind of useless cause the team became super duper slow
(Vs whitney)
It's just hau now
dark osprey
lol. nice improv with Whitney
weird that militank is quicker than darkrai in this game
why i thought that Skyla would be helpful as a support
i prefer running ssa cynthia offtype with 2 fighting damage dealers with the PMUNs. with Solgaleo's expanded grid, u could use them and Bea/Bruno/ Wally etc. based on the crit max capability if SSA Cynthia not 3/5
trail smelt
Whitney trained her Miltank for SPID
crystal notch
Gotta go fast for that rollout spam ig
She doesn't have it here though, funnily enough
crystal notch
i prefer running ssa cynthia offtype with 2 fighting damage dealers with the PMU...
True but offtype halfsync with 1/5 bea seems uhh
Wait isn't solga sync steel
swift swan
yes
dark osprey
Oh. I just meant syncing with SSA Cynthia for the zone and with like focus blasts and meteor assaults/cross chops (Bruno)
summer flare
For the first time ever I did a complete on type run
No offtyping supports
I think they're called monotype runs, actually
Ghost was a bit miserable, but the most surprising one for me was water
Thought Hilbert and Kris would elbow drop it, but I had to retry
summer flare
Hilbert and Kris destroys
Issue was that I saved them for round 4
So I couldn't kill pre sync and had to adjust the team after a few fails
SS blue finished the lineup in the winning run
My Olivia is 1/5 and lodge Raihan isn't exactly a monster of an unit
So Emmet did most of the heavy lifting
swift swan
Issue was that I saved them for round 4
What was the 3rd unit
Oh ss blue
Hmm, I would've slotted in rain
summer flare
Hmm, I would've slotted in rain
I did, but I couldn't kill middle presync
So it oneshot kris
Because round 4 had the earlier sync effect
SS blue was there to make sure Kris survived the sync
Teams this week were uh...
Lodge acerola, Morty and Phoebe
Lodge Raihan, kukui and Emmet
Ingo, Cynthia and Courtney
Hilbert, Kris and SS blue
SS Brendan, Lucas and Cyrus
swift swan
Yes, I know
Kris's nuke is strong and easy to set up. I imagine she can presync with the right params
I might try her later
dark osprey
Kris first sync ohko. she crazy
trail smelt
Yeah Kris hits very hard now
crystal notch
Outrage or draco meteor?
For build
That's all my sp def debuffer
And honestly I have zero idea why sabrina is there
crystal notch
She has dauntless btw
swift swan
her kit relies on it
crystal notch
Yeah definitely
swift swan
She has dauntless btw
all the more reason to use draco meteor
old orchid
i thought you are waiting for Bulurola
crystal notch
Yeah sorta kinda
swift swan
you rarely touch outrage anyway, draco meteor is just better
crystal notch
Which is why I'm just planning rn
Since channel is dead anyways
So might as well
old orchid
if you use her with Bulurola, Outrage is slightly better
because it can make use of PMUN
crystal notch
Ahhh
The pmun
I see now
Time to make a second grid then
For context, without bulurola
These are my weather setters
old orchid
swift swan
hmmm, usually I run Zinnia with May for the Hoenn theme skill. but you'd need a good gauge support
if not, acerola can always work. she can flinch too
crystal notch
I have sc steven too if I get bulurola
Don't think I've used him anywhere else
Nvm
I did use him somewhere
Oh right helping olivia beat up kahili
Here's my def down characters
Since bulurola provides atk help right
old orchid
Nanu is a good choice
old orchid
he can be gridless
i mean he doesnt need grid that bad
but if you can, grid him Charging Infliction 2
to help with gauge
crystal notch
noted
thin pecan
Which gym leaders are what kind of attack this week?
north crown
gym leaders...?! 💀 💀
keen jasper
paper summit
if you mean the Elite 4, you can just look at them in game... or in the pins, you should know by now where to look
or pomatools, to know movesets and stats
mellow linden
You can use the pomatools link in pins to see all their moves
thin pecan
So everyone is physical but the boss?
tired sleet
Pretty much yes
marble orbit
Leaf Koga and SC Ingo can work right?
swift swan
against who
marble orbit
I did r1 olivia, thinking about acerola next
swift swan
Leaf Koga and SC Ingo can work right?
and this is the team you're planning to bring?
marble orbit
That was the plan... but let me try viola over SC Ingo
swift swan
yeah, do try with Viola
marble orbit
Also quick question, for CS, if i cleared Grass but not Fairy, can I bring Syca to fill in Fairy? Or it has to be a pair that has Fairy as the first type?
marble orbit
Oh so it depends on sync move type?
WAIT I MIXED UP GRASS WITH FAIRY
I meant to ask clear Fairy but not Grass...
swift swan
welp, then you'll need a unit whose sync move type is grass. so sycamore doesn't count
marble orbit
yeah, do try with Viola
Also i lost LOL
marble orbit
UHH yes thats what i was trying
nah i think i did smth wrong
must I EX Koga or smth
paper summit
Koga doesn't have an EX
marble orbit
i dont think the team has multi hitters
Welp
Then again im not that good with stall
paper summit
I'm not a fan of stalling in Hard Mode CS
besides, it's not really hard, the base stages are a bit whatever
swift swan
oh, hard mode?
marble orbit
Sighhhhhh
paper summit
I'm assuming it is since they were asking about types
marble orbit
Poison has always been the bane
swift swan
vs acerola, right?
marble orbit
Yeye
swift swan
ghost-weak... whatever happened to giovanni
swift swan
shadow ball giovanni, mind games Koga for sp def debuffs, a sp atk buffer
marble orbit
Or Mewtwo one?
swift swan
hmmm how many types do you have left
marble orbit
Normal electric grass POISON ground bug fairy
swift swan
how about sycamore/koga/giovanni for acerola
is your giovanni powerboosted with mega by any chance
marble orbit
Ye i did EX him and upgraded him
swift swan
hmmm so there will be a fight for sync
though I guess since this is hard mode, it's not too bad
grid giovanni with his shadow ball grid. Koga just wants the MInd Games tile (top left). TM on Giovanni twice. Sync with sycamore first
give that a try
swift swan
Normal electric grass POISON ground bug fairy
if you still want a stall team after this, I can suggest leaf and bp erika (who already covers trap and poison). viola can fill in for bug but it's kind of a waste
old orchid
Viola can help debuff spatk, but every E4 stage uses physical this week 
swift swan
oh, true
manic dust
I am attempting my first 12.5K CSMM and it's going okay, but I am struggling a bit. Kahili and Acerola went down fine, but Molayne I am unsure of. I have 1/5 Cynthia and 3/5 Courtney, but they're so gauge hungry that this is a lot tougher than I thought...
north crown
1/5 Cynthia has subpar (bad) DPS. Could just focus on teambuilding for Courtney. Her nuke should be able to qipe out mid pre sync, tho don't ask me about how to build for her since I don't have her
manic dust
Courtney's that good? Oh snap, I need to reevaluate that then
junior crown
Any other ground DPS?
Naomi for example?
you can poison stall him too, he is the only full physical this week
so maybe avoid him on R3 too
For Olivia you should have at least one good water DPS (with Cyrus)
manic dust
No Naomi, but I was able to get through with Courtney after tweaking my parameters! Woohoo!
Yeah, I do have Cyrus -- I could also is Cerena too potentially. I have CHop to offtype either Olivia or Hau
junior crown
Oh, so use Cerena on her and Cyrus (or any other dragon) on Hau
manic dust
Gotcha! Cerena got me through just fine. Now to Hau. Yeah my dragon types are...sad
manic dust
Who are Cyrus's best supports? I don't use him much, but he wants SpAttk so Falkner and Kiawe seem well suited
mellow linden
Sycamore or Roxanne (whichever is EX, mainly) + a Rain setter if using Hydro Pump or Lucas/a Sp. Def. debuffer if using Spacial Rend, for cheap options
manic dust
Cool, thanks!
manic dust
Very first 12.5k clear!! Thank you everyone!
old orchid
trail smelt
Congratulations
gritty nymph
Ay congrats!!!
rotund lagoon
1/5 Cynthia has subpar (bad) DPS. Could just focus on teambuilding for Courtney....
1/5 Cynthia and 3/5 Courtney wipes the floor with Ground stages
marble orbit
grid giovanni with his shadow ball grid. Koga just wants the MInd Games tile (to...
Tried this time, got past Acerola no problemo, tho i did use Giovanni Shadow Ball, Syca Impervious and Koga minimal nuke
Left with Normal Electric Grass Ground Bug
Is Guzma, SC Steven, and Sonia viable?
old orchid
Yes
marble orbit
Wtf it actually worked
Ok so who do I team Bertha with
Legit the only 5* ground unit i have
trail smelt
No Naomi?
marble orbit
No Naomi
trail smelt
Probably easier to offtype
marble orbit
Okie then lemme check what i can put
marble orbit
She has a great nuke at higher move levels
2
ancient lava
what is mulayne's deal
ancient lava
my c marnie barely dents him
oh fuck my bad
i think i didnt turn off standard damage reduction
fml
ancient lava
no wonder i lost
crystal notch
I just realized
Using outrage on zinnia means I'm using special dr
So I'm losing out on her sync
I haven't exed Bulurola cause I lack tickets
dark osprey
pain
marble orbit
Using outrage on zinnia means I'm using special dr
I ALWAYS USE OUTRAGE THEN TRAINER MOVE SOOO IM LOSING OUT? 😭😭
crystal notch
What?
I was talking about CSMM's special damage reduction 8
Which you will (usually) take if you do physical damage reduction 8
crystal notch
I ALWAYS USE OUTRAGE THEN TRAINER MOVE SOOO IM LOSING OUT? 😭😭
But this also sounds wrong anyways
Did you not grid her clearheaded
weak sleet
What does it mean to be careful who you fight during round 4? Should I avoid specific opponents?
old orchid
Round 4 is half sync countdown
Yeah avoid fighting Olivia, she buffs+2 crit just before the sync
dark osprey
unless u just murder her still before sync
weak sleet
But any of the others should be okay?
Well for this week I have - Groudon, frogs, Zygarde/Dialga, lunala/Giratina, and shiny Diancie.
swift swan
round 4 is mostly team dependent. Which team is bulky enough to tank the opponent sync OR which team is fast enough to presync the opponent even at half sync
Olivia is not recommended r4 because if you let her sync, she will raise her crit by +2 with TM
old orchid
What role of candy coin does Alola give? I dont remember clearly
prime warren
Support candy for MM
old orchid
Thanks, my CCalem will be 3/5 next week then
wide adder
zealous karma
You can’t check poma tools on your phone?
rotund lagoon
Yeah PoMa Tools is very mobile friendly
lunar meadow
Grass and psychic next week, for this week's Tapus to shine
tame gust
zzz. all these poison resist 9 making it annoying to toxic stall.
zealous karma
Who are you trying to stall?
tame gust
I'm either going to use it on Olivia or Kahli. Already killed Moy and Ace.
tame gust
Honestly I'm debating if I want to use Cyrus for 2.5k water weak. I mean I can but rain dance options aren't really something I'm huge on, annoyingly
paper summit
fr, why the hell would you stall a water weak stage?
field effects are never required
nocturne pawn
do you not have may
tame gust
true. but I meant for the extra pump of damage on hydro pump. Yeah, the water and rock weak are easy answers. Cyrus and Roark. I just gotta edit my teams a lil bit since I was using medal team. and no. I have May. 5 EX lmao
paper summit
paper summit
his pb was focused more on dragon damage
tame gust
ohhhh
paper summit
water was already bonkers to begin with
tame gust
I haven't studied his grid much :p
zealous karma
Cyrus is my go to F2P off type
old orchid
Before the PB he was a water striker with dragon sync
zealous karma
I haven't studied his grid much :p
Def look at a units grid before writing them off
tame gust
I never wrote him off. I used him for the Hard Mode clear. Just wasn't sure if I could pull him off on a 2.5k. :I
tame gust
player skill issue, that's why
I don't recall seeing my Cyrus pulling 10k pumps, but that's probably because I wasn't using proper supports and such. Sorry I apparently upset some people with my bad takes and opinions.
zealous karma
Not that you upset but concerned
tame gust
won't bother this chat in the future.
zealous karma
Don’t do that
We’re meant to be bothered
We’re intended to guide you
/make things easier
I personally don’t like stall as it’s too interactive and fun gameplay
paper summit
Why <:HilbertHmm:625860604347023360>
wdym why? the event is limited time
not every person will have it if they join when the event isn't up
zealous karma
Was event
I was talking about how come they didn’t think Cyrus could pull of 2.5K
He doesn’t need it for hydropump
old orchid
paper summit
oh, ok then, nvm me
tame gust
as I said before, probably bad ideas on team building on my part so unable to bring out the unit's potential. I never said he COULDN'T do it. I just didn't know if I had the right units or other stuff. Then again, he's an amazing F2P option, I'm not discounting that.
zealous karma
But if you’d prefer to stall than that’s fine
I don’t want to make it seem as I’m forcing to use him or anything I was just hi it a. Suggestion
tame gust
Eh, don't prefer it, just saying "huh, so all the enemy teams just say "eff you" to stall. Wasn't really looking for advice, more just making an observation.
zealous karma
I kinda waited a little long before I could start doing damage because crit focus wasn’t kind
I see
This game kinda like main series discourages stalling but also gives you a lot of options to do so my apologies but we kinda do like to add further on points as helpers just so you know lel 
you’ll get help wether you like it or not 
tame gust
It's fine, I appreciate the idea of wanting to help and all. I think, yeah, I'll just throw EX C.Bede, Cyrus, and Rain-Blastoise just to be an asshole to Olivia.
zealous karma
Swaggy
north crown
It's fine, I appreciate the idea of wanting to help and all. I think, yeah, I'll...
Could have just used a pure crit buffer instead of wasting CBede
zealous karma
Isn’t that what CBede is
north crown
Yes, but he’s an OP support as well. Using him for Cyrus seems like a waste, especially if the roster is lacking
tame gust
nah, roster's actually fairly nice. spending him on R3 wasn't that big of a waste. I have more than enough power to blast down Hau on dragon weak.
got EX 3/5 SS brendan and PB Zin/Ray for Hau. Deciding on a weather setter to really nuke with Zinny.
now if only Roark would crit these syncs.
and if Hop would get these MPRs on his TM.. 
and salamance would eff off with toxic .-.
man the rng is really screwing this R4 over.
tame gust
Skyla, Roark and Hop should NOT be having to do this many resets on rock weak Kahli.
zealous karma
Skyla, Roark and Hop should NOT be having to do this many resets on rock weak Ka...
Roark isnt really a post syncer I would try a def debuffer but I am not sure he is capable of a first sync nuke
tame gust
it doesn't help that this is R4 so the syncs come out faster. And while he's not able to do the big boom first shot, I can usually kill off Kahli in the middle before the second sync. or at least come close. Almost won on one attempt but Roark decided it was time for him to miss the Delibird left on the field right as it was using blizzard. :I
north crown
Sleep mon to delay moves
tame gust
Kukui defense drop saving the day
was down to Rampardos having one HP left after his last head smash.
zealous karma
So Swag
tame gust
well, was about to blast down Hau, but then I got heat waved after I KO'd mid. lmfao
zealous karma
Have you already used Acerola she’s pretty nice for flinching
tame gust
didn't need to. just had to switch the secondary round effect off shortened sync so I could get two syncs in before Hau got his first.
zealous karma
The shield params like to do that
tame gust
Didn’t screenshot the numbers in time, but I saw a 20k off Zinni sync.
marble orbit
Did you not grid her clearheaded
Pretty sure i did
swift swan
y'all are clicking outrage on zinnia?
paper summit
it's ok if they haven't gotten Dauntless on her, otherwise
full mesa
Just passed r4 molayne with SS Red SS Leaf and Bertha
Slow team but gg nonetheless.
old orchid
What went wrong with that team?
waxen parrot
Jasmine dies to flamethrower
old orchid
What param set did you use?
waxen parrot
And blue isnt dealing enough damage
waxen parrot
With olivia?
old orchid
Also what round are you on?
waxen parrot
Do i use potion early for the gauge boost?
waxen parrot
I managed to get the braviary down, but the sidemons finished me off
old orchid
how many hits did CBlue take before going down?
waxen parrot
Hangon, i think i modified my parameters before, let me try with the base parameters
I think he got the sync hit and one more
swift swan
Hmm, CBlue iirc has endurance to at least live 1 AOE
waxen parrot
I had blue targetted last
swift swan
Hmmm, you can probably try hitting the sides 1-2 times at first, then focusing on mid, so after mid is down, sides can easily be oneshotted
waxen parrot
Got it done, thanks guys!
old orchid
swift swan
noble plaza
I'm using Poison Stall for the Champion and my team is Hop, Lucy, and Janine. Should I Poison everyone with Lucy first and then Wrap each one? Or do I do both Poison and Wrap before moving on to the next one?
noble plaza
makes sense
ack I finally beat the Noivern but I ran out of potions for Zamazenta and I got killed with a heat wave 😭
dark osprey
Poison stall for the champion would need a special defense buffer
noble plaza
oh true
dark osprey
If you've got BP Morty or Misty Psyduck, they are really good for stalling
And go both ways
noble plaza
ooof...I have neither 😔 I do have BP tickets
dark osprey
If you have Cyrus remaining can use him for on type as well
keen jasper
Grass and psychic weak by May 15. Coincidence? I don't think so
noble plaza
If you have Cyrus remaining can use him for on type as well
i do indeed have Cyrus remaining
You're suggesting I go On-Type instead of Poison Stall?
dark osprey
Ah. Can use him with any good supports
Yes
You will benefit from the round parameter of extra special damage
noble plaza
I still have Xerneas and Blue available
dark osprey
Ah Xerneas EX?
noble plaza
ye
dark osprey
Ah. Then better use him
And can add another special defense buffer just to play safe
Or can add someone to help Cyrus too
dark osprey
Grass and psychic weak by May 15. Coincidence? I don't think so
Oh you meant SS Acerola and Lana time. Ah I'm too slow
keen jasper
Oh you meant SS Acerola and Lana time. Ah I'm too slow
Don't worry, I'm slow on the uptake as well
noble plaza
And can add another special defense buffer just to play safe
Wouldn't Xerneas accomplish this?
crystal notch
Grass and psychic weak by May 15. Coincidence? I don't think so
extending this line of thought means we might get an ice or poison type char on 29 may cough alolan ninetales cough nihilego cough
noble plaza
ooooo that would be so cool!!!
crystal notch
oooor magearna, since last week of CS has steel weak
but that's a big L for DeNa since solgaleo is a free steel type + EX + PB LMAO
so unlikely tbh
keen jasper
oooor magearna, since last week of CS has steel weak
But Magearna's signature move is fairy type
crystal notch
yeah which is why it's very unlikely
paper summit
but that's a big L for DeNa since solgaleo is a free steel type + EX + PB LMAO
bold of you to assume meta chasers or simps won't pull regardless of what they already have
crystal notch
true
paper summit
Otherwise they wouldn't release repeat types often
dark osprey
Wouldn't Xerneas accomplish this?
Xerneas yes. but you'd have to use a non EX sync for that. Also you can use SS Blue EX sync instead
noble plaza
should I do OT pre-sync or OT post-sync?
swift swan
I'm a presync truther
noble plaza
PB?
swift swan
But just find whichever param works more comfortably for you
noble plaza
Ohhh that was the Mega Rayquaza right?
Yeahhh uh, school kinda got in the way of me getting PB Zinnia 😔
noble plaza
yup
I don't have the full grid expansion, so my grid for Cyrus is Hydro Pump focused
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/19400/48400?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFHyEjJicoKSorLC0
I could try to adjust it to be Spacial Rend focused
swift swan
Do try spacial rend instead, since it's ontype
noble plaza
yeah i figured!
swift swan
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/19400/48400?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBgkMDQ8QERQXGi4v i'd take something like this. Spacial rend doesn't have multipliers since yours isn't powerboosted, so you'll be mostly relying on nuke
I gotta go to sleep now. Good luck!
noble plaza
Night! Thanks so much for your help!
Hang on, am I supposed to sync with Blue/Xerneas first? How will I presync without Cyrus' sync nuke?
crystal notch
Ehhh, try both out
If Cyrus sync nuke gets you the win, great
If not try syncing with Blue first
Spacial rend dps is pretty nice
Also try denying left if needed
How to deny left: queue one move before sync (essentially doing 10 moves instead of 9 before sync), target left
This allows you to have a bit more dps
crystal notch
Hang on, am I supposed to sync with Blue/Xerneas first? How will I presync witho...
Sometimes the additional +50 sync buff from supp EX allows the following dps (and second sync, which is the nuke!) to be significant enough to presync
noble plaza
How to deny left: queue one move before sync (essentially doing 10 moves instead...
When the sync is queued or before that?
crystal notch
When the sync is queued or before that?
essentially you know how you usually queue 9 moves
and then at the end of those 9 moves you're waiting to queue sync?
yeah instead of waiting to queue sync, you queue one more move, and then press sync (while enemy animation is still playing most likely)
crystal notch
you can then queue another move
if left dies, then you've essentially delayed the enemy by 3 moves
which nets you a +2 move in total
crystal notch
usually that's how you kill left lol (since left moves exactly after 9 allied moves + mid moves - which is when you sync)
but honestly this would work even in normal stages
you can dps down a side and kill as the side is about to move
noble plaza
Ahh ok!
crystal notch
but honestly this would work even in normal stages
can clutch in EBEs
note that turn order might get funky if you do flinch memes
noble plaza
...this might be a bit harder for me to do because I instinctively queue moves when someone is done with their current
crystal notch
Yeah don't worry
That happened to me too
Also, queue a move after the 10th move is done since the user would be available
noble plaza
okay yeah that makes sense
crystal notch
The thing here is that enemies would instantly requeue...at the bottom of the turn order as soon as one of their moves is cancelled (due to fainting, sleep, flinch, etc)
noble plaza
I don't think Blue's sync would kill the left opponent though
crystal notch
I was suggesting this if you wanted to do Cyrus sync twice
If you just support ex then target mid as usual
crystal notch
Nah its alright
It's a new learning thing haha
Maybe can apply it in future battles
noble plaza
probably
So if I'm understanding this right:
Queue 3 moves
Queue another 3 moves,
Wait on Cyrus(?), queue 2 moves for Xerneas and Blue.
wait as I was typing this I realized that Cyrus would kind of be waiting for a bit
noble plaza
take your time
crystal notch
With another team since I can't be bothered to beat 4 teams to reach hau
zealous karma
Is everything in here going all right just curious and don’t like reading context clues
zealous karma
Oh
noble plaza
With another team since I can't be bothered to beat 4 teams to reach hau
no that's totally fine! I'm sure the same concept applies
zealous karma
This is kinda what side denial looks like
But explaining it is a little more difficult
It achieves the same goal as quad queueing essentially bjt you’re also killing off one of the sides while you do it setting you up for the end of the fight much easier so you don’t have to kill to sides but only one but i would only do side denial if you’re sure you can kill the center mon
crystal notch
Essentially instead of the enemy being at 2 sync CD, they're now still at 3 sync CD
Allowing for 3 more moves pre sync compared to the usual
Note that the enemy takes some time to register the fainting animation
In which timespan diantha was requeued
Hence you lose no real dps
noble plaza
ohhhhh
crystal notch
Benefits: allows for another set of buffs/weather/etc since you essentially gain 2 moves before first sync, and then you gain 3 moves due to left kill
So it's 5 free moves vs normal gameplay (when enemy reaches 2 sync cd), 2 each on the non killers and one on the killer (I'm not counting the sync since that's included in normal gameplay)
noble plaza
I think I sort of did it, I got a sync in before Hydreigon went, buuut it didn't kill
zealous karma
What stage are you trying to complete Iris I assume?
noble plaza
Hau
crystal notch
this ain;t unova LMAO
noble plaza
SS Blue, sorry
zealous karma
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Well SSB + xerneas is a little redundant imo especially when Cyrus is super self sufficient iirc his sync isn’t the best but if you can quad queue a Spacial rend he may be fine
noble plaza
I believe the sync did crit, the Critical Strike 9 and Critical Strike 2 popped up
zealous karma
How much did his sync do?
noble plaza
Well SSB + xerneas is a little redundant imo especially when Cyrus is super self...
Yeah I didn't know who else to put haha
I'm doing 2.5k Pre-Sync On Type params btw
crystal notch
hmm, you can target left, but honestly...maybe try support ex sync, how did that go?
noble plaza
i mean Blue's EX sync didn't do much to the Noivern when I tried that
crystal notch
well, ofc it wouldn't, since SDR 8 is up
noble plaza
exactly
crystal notch
but you're not using supp ex to dmh
so no need to left denial
with supp ex sync
just focus on mid
noble plaza
ohhhh
crystal notch
tools for different scenarios essentially
crystal notch
ehh, Blue sync is fine since he has enduring on sync
is cyrus sp atk maxed though
iirc it is if you click the tm twice
zealous karma
wait Blue is the only one EX'd, right
Blue especially if he’s ex, I’d just replace sycamore entirely and use someoke like lucian to debuff SpDef
noble plaza
iirc it is if you click the tm twice
yeah
crystal notch
Blue especially if he’s ex, I’d just replace sycamore entirely and use someoke l...
my thoughts exactly
sycamore is just contributing nothing without his sync (and he ain't syncing)
crystal notch
either do lucian, or do a flincher
flinches can help stall for time while cyrus dpses
noble plaza
flinching could def help
crystal notch
only problem with flinches/sleep is that it can't last forever
since enemies have items./TMs too
and you can't flinch those
noble plaza
ye
......I just tried it with Accerola as my flincher because I was having trouble getting 2 syncs in...I managed to get my sync in before Noivern synced...
...AND NOIVERN SURVIVED ON LOW HP 😭
crystal notch
seems like lucian might be better then
noble plaza
RNGESUS WAS ON MY SIDE THIS TIME. Second try with Accerola and I managed to do it!!! Thank you all so much for your help!!!
I can't thank you enough!
noble plaza
goodnight!
swift swan
good morning
swift swan
RNGESUS WAS ON MY SIDE THIS TIME. Second try with Accerola and I managed to do i...
oh you made it? congrats!
trail smelt
Last day for this week
old orchid
Hope there isnt anyone looking for help in last minutes
swift swan
Hope there isnt anyone looking for help in last minutes
hello I need help last minute
main crow
Hi I need 12.5k help pls I kept dying on R1 Olivia with Glojo 🥴
old orchid
dark osprey
Hope you're taking the right parameters.
main crow
I'm just messing, I wiped that stage clear with Kris 
trail smelt
Kris got a hell of an upgrade lol
old orchid
The only competitor to her upgrade is Elesa's imo
main crow
She's not AS good but I would say Fantina's also really nice
For someone who lacks ghost dps she's a welcomed surprise
swift swan
She's not AS good but I would say Fantina's also really nice
agreed