Champion Stadium

[old orchid]

Remember to use Electric Terrain

Why dont you switch to pre sync set and try to quad queue?

[terse comet]

I'm posting video now, messed up the one quadqueue

[old orchid]

I see the problem

You didnt triple queue at the start

Reduce speed to x1, queue 3 moves, then increase to x3

[terse comet]

Usually I did

I simply messed up there

Even then that's the most damage I've done pre sync

Usually Blim's at 30-50% hp left

Also the Frillish would still one hit my whole team

so do I need to kill Frillish first

[swift swan]

killing mid first is usually the better strategy

if the sides are giving you trouble, try flinching them

[terse comet]

Okay I might have this

ayy finally

So Fire Type team, I'll try the Evelyn idea first

[keen jasper]

Fire is very easy

[keen jasper]

But do you have Silver's power ups?

[terse comet]

yep, so do I start SS Morty or Evelyn first iyo

[keen jasper]

SS Morty is the tankiest

[main crow]

I recommend someone like Gordie in place of Evelyn

Or someone that can help buff Silver faster

Btw what Silver build are you running?

[zealous karma]

Assuming morty is 3/5 and silver has his PB they can easily get max offenses

[terse comet]

Sacred Fire

[main crow]

I see, do you have Gordie still?

[terse comet]

Who's Gordie again

[cinder summit]

Gordie & Coalossal

‎ Type: ‎　‎　Weak:

Level 140 Stats:

HP: 678
ATK: 390 | DEF: 226
SPA: 390 | SPD: 154
SPE: 198

Acquisition:

General Pool

Alternates:

None

Sync Grid Recommendations:

Sync Nuke / Utility (3/5)
‎　+ Max Flare
‎　+ G-Max Volcalith
Utility / G-Max Volcalith (3/5)
Utility / Max Flare (3/5)

Lucky Skill: Critical Strike 2, Weathered Warrior 3, Head Start 1

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[terse comet]

nope

I don't think I even own a max move user

[main crow]

Ok the team's fine then

Gordie would usually be in fire team for the -2 fire rebuff

[keen jasper]

Is CS2 the same as additional damage from -2 rebuff?

[main crow]

Pretty sure a -1 rebuff does a bit more than a CS2 if memory serves me right

[keen jasper]

I mean, I'm kinda comparing -2 fire rebuff with Supreme Entry vs. CS2, -1 fire rebuff and SEUN

[terse comet]

Wow

Fire, even with toxic procs was easy huh

I literally probably could've afked that fight after burn procs

[keen jasper]

Lesser burn resistance

[terse comet]

whatever settings I took, they took 20k from burn

[zealous karma]

Rebuff goes like 30-50-80 I think

[terse comet]

let's go I hit 10k... wait what do you mean the max is now 12.5k

(I'm joking btw)

[marble orbit]

I actually won against Olivia with 2 non-100 unit team LESGO

[tired sleet]

30/50/60

[swift swan]

because teambuilding and gameplay matters more than levels alone

nice job

[keen jasper]

Isn't it 30/50/60?

[zealous karma]

Idk

[old orchid]

Its 30/50/60

[full mesa]

Only -3?

[keen jasper]

Tell me is, CS2 to same as -2 rebuff?

[swift swan]

well, 20% and 50%

CS2 isn't even the same as -1 rebuff

[keen jasper]

I mean, going from -1 rebuff to -2 rebuff is what I'm asking

[white bramble]

Wasn't acerola was olivia

Electric types only have these

[toxic cobalt]

Hau team

[rotund lagoon]

Double Hau or one of them?

[toxic cobalt]

More Hau is good Hau

[rotund lagoon]

[white bramble]

Hau

[rotund lagoon]

[waxen parrot]

Any tips on kukui?

[north crown]

hard or mm

[waxen parrot]

Mm

I used the offtype parameter post sync, and zerena seem to not do any damage

[north crown]

waitaminute why are you offtyping kukui? isn't his weakness fire? just ontype nuke with silver

[waxen parrot]

I suppose so, i tried him too

[main crow]

Is your silver not power boosted/EX?

[waxen parrot]

Not EX, was in the sun

[north crown]

his damage should still be respectable

what other fire damage dealers u got?

[waxen parrot]

My non support fire "attackers"

Basically nobody but silver

[north crown]

bruhh it literally says 6ex is available 💀

[waxen parrot]

I dont have the spirits

[north crown]

is that why you're... ok I get it

idk I'm pretty sure silver can handle it. all you gotta do is teambuild

please tell me you know how to

[waxen parrot]

I' ve beaten master mode before

Tho ive just recently returned to the game

[tired sleet]

You can’t actually do it unless you have the legendary spirits

[north crown]

ik however more often than not, you’d usually have more spirits than 5 star power ups

[paper summit]

Yes, but again, this is legendary spirits

Nothing can be done about those unless their respective event is up

[compact yoke]

Would someone be able to help me with parameters for Fairy stage | CS master mode | Round 1 |, using SS Wally

[old orchid]

What team are you using Wally with?

[north crown]

Also move level
Actually scrap that just give us all the team info

[compact yoke]

Sorry I was studying for finals didn’t see ur messages, I’ll send the info

I can use SS Wally with a lot of people, but was using with Lillie Clef, and diantha, although i don’t care for diantha much

Move level for SS Wally is 1

[old orchid]

That team lacks gauge

Replace Lillie with a tank that can supply gauge

[compact yoke]

Yeah I was gonna swap diantha for pal Serena

[old orchid]

Preferly support that can buff spatk or crit for Diantha

What move level is Serena?

[compact yoke]

Aight so like kiawe

And she is prob 1

[old orchid]

Tbh you should replace Lillie

[compact yoke]

Yeah 1

[old orchid]

Diantha is better than 1/5 Serena

[compact yoke]

So then Kiawe for support

[old orchid]

Remember to sync with Diantha first

[compact yoke]

Literally the only reason I wanna get a fairy zone extender is because her zone is so short

I wish there was a second zone for SS Wally, or longer zone

[dark osprey]

Wouldn't need a zone extender with SS Wally tbh

Can just use Diantha, SS Wally and maybe Skyla here

If you're having trouble with the quad queues, you can even sync with SS Wally if needed

With +4 minimum defense and -4 attack of the enemy would even be able to take the enemy sync easily

[compact yoke]

Any shot u could help with parameters for if I were to use them

These are what I use now

[toxic cobalt]

Pretty standard except for def up

[keen jasper]

Ah

[keen jasper]

Exchange Def./Sp. Def. +1 to Atk./Sp. Atk. +1

[compact yoke]

Alright I’ll try that one appreciate it

[keen jasper]

Also, exchange Strength +1 to Atk./Sp. Atk. +3

Also, why no Strength +6?

[compact yoke]

Ahhh that’s what I used to always do that I’m not doing

I was wondering why it felt weird

Thank you

[wide adder]

R3 idk what I’m doing wrong but this isn’t clearing.

[north crown]

LMAO

PERMA FIELD EFFECTS TOO

either skill issue or rng

[tired sleet]

Are you syncing with elesa or sonia first?
If elesa, how much speed does she have first sync?

[trail smelt]

Is Elesa properly gridded to nuke?

What parameters are you using

[wide adder]

Sonia first. They sync before I get to nuke

They queue before Sonia’s sync due to swift reaction

i forget what my last 150pts are atm

but its roughly something like this

[old orchid]

If you have a good amount of deluxe cookies, try to get Adrenaline for Sonia

Or do turn denial

[wide adder]

guess ill try that, since thatd be a solver for a constant problem with her

adrenaline solved it, thanks gakon

[old orchid]

[tired sleet]

Getting a flinch with volkner would also let you sync twice before their first

[old orchid]

Adrenaline is a long term fix imo

[tired sleet]

<- Me who still hasn’t adrenalined her

[rotund lagoon]

Vigilance Sonia over here

[white bramble]

Can I beat hala with these (except prof)

[old orchid]

Hop Mina Marley

[old orchid]

[wide adder]

my sonia had vig before but ive got plenty of other vig tanks for gauntlet.

now that shes 3/5 i felt it was the right time since i was reminded the option exists

[umbral crow]

is there any recommended params for each e4?

i have turned off ping dw

[old orchid]

The order is free

Preferly do R1 on Hala, Olivia or Kahili

[umbral crow]

yeah ig ill just pick it based on pair ill use

[white bramble]

I dont have marley and already used hop

[old orchid]

Marley is a 3* gacha pair

Can you show us your roster at move level menu?

[trail smelt]

I mean Marley evaded me for the longest time back in the day haha

[rotund lagoon]

I spy Marley

Also you can use Sonia for the main buffer if she’s available

[old orchid]

Yeah she can carry Mina

[white bramble]

So Sonia Mina and Marley?

[swift swan]

neither have I ngl

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah, give it a shot.

[swift swan]

I think Sonia already covers what Marley does (speed buffs mainly) but sure

[rotund lagoon]

Ngl, I always have a hard time thinking of a third slot when it comes to Sonia

I got tired of thinking, so Marley it is T~T

[zealous karma]

an additional def debuffer

[rotund lagoon]

Trying to think who covers that…

[zealous karma]

or they can use stout steven as Mina can be difficult to use

[rotund lagoon]

I was about to mention…

[rotund lagoon]

Hey uh did you use SC Steven yet?

[rotund lagoon]

Wait what do you mean difficult?

[zealous karma]

I always feel like her sync misses the mark even with supp ex at times but if this is hard mode should be fine

[rotund lagoon]

I think that depends on grid tbh

[white bramble]

nope

[rotund lagoon]

Wanna plop him as third slot instead of Marley since Sonia covers Speed?

[white bramble]

yes

I will try that

I will level up mina a bit

[rotund lagoon]

120 is fine

[zealous karma]

I only use this grid e

[rotund lagoon]

Bro that’s not the full nuke grid lmao

More meant as a small combo of DPS and nuke

[swift swan]

I skip power posture

[swift swan]

and take the sync tile at the bottom

[zealous karma]

I like taking DPS nodes because she cant deal with sides in 2.5K ussually when I use her syca out damages her

[rotund lagoon]

I mean, I’ll try her nuke grid on it myself, but nothing wrong with Sycamore carrying a bit

[zealous karma]

more like he carries her a lot lel

[swift swan]

#1011173305702690876 message this was Mina vs 2.5k lance

[zealous karma]

wow 14K first sync I dont think id ever imagine from her

this is how much she did and since drasna has a bit of hp I had to hope for it to not get a low role

but even before I found it rough especially prior to syca ex

[white bramble]

Thank u
worked 💪

[white bramble]

hall of fame

[old orchid]

Congrats

But post your victory result in #1010274591601598555 please

[fringe valve]

Does acerola have increased special defence?

[old orchid]

Yes

The stat boost isnt high as Wise Entry x2

[zealous karma]

Til

[tired sleet]

It has 1.5x as much spdef

[nocturne pawn]

i swear to god 80% crit chance is a lie at this point

ive done like ten runs with ss red and his sync crit once

[keen jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-gif-21994457

[junior crown]

just to be sure, you were +3 crit with him?? Because the Sync has a "native" -1 crit, so +3 crit means +2 crit for sync

So if you were +2 crit, for sync is like +1

[tired sleet]

That’s what they meant by 80%

[latent eagle]

Is there an order that the rounds should be done this week?

[tired sleet]

Fight Hala, Olivia, or Kahilli 1st

Use field effects R3 (most likely Acerola if you have Electric Terrain)

Use debuffs vs R4 and pre sync R2

[grand trout]

Hmmmm

I might use bertha for ground nuke next week

But who can be her dps?

[old orchid]

can you show your Ground roster?

[grand trout]

Hold on

Yes i can use Maxie and Cynthia instead but it feels too cakewalky

[old orchid]

i see SS Giovanni

[grand trout]

I like to handicap myself this alola by noy using my op units

Ooh ss gio is a good choice

Thanks thanks

[old orchid]

Courtney on zone also has passable dps

[grand trout]

Oh i already used courtney last month

If worse comes to worst i can unleash the max move lol

[junior crown]

If you're not considering op units you should not consider SS Gio as well...

[mellow linden]

Depending on the Support, if you don’t want to use “OP” pairs then you could try Naomi

[grand trout]

Lol true

[grand trout]

Hmmmm

I was planning to use ingo

But if naomi is it then i have ro switch my support up

[junior crown]

when you mean OP units, you mean only th DPS?

[grand trout]

Wait, Naomi us self sufficient right

[grand trout]

Yes

[junior crown]

or any OP? Because Ingo is OP as well

[grand trout]

Op can provide insane buffs yes

But i was talking about dps only

[junior crown]

ok

then yes, Ingo Naomi are great

I remember I went Naomi Ingo Courtney

when I tried her the first time

[grand trout]

Ohhh

Waiy Naomi can buff her crit and atk right

In that case I'm excited

[junior crown]

takes some turn but yes

[grand trout]

Does she work well with sandstorm

Like does she have passives for it

[junior crown]

Perfectly

[tired sleet]

She has surging sand 5

[cinder summit]

Naomi (Sightseer) & Sandslash

‎ Type: ‎　‎　Weak:

Level 140 Stats:

HP: 569
ATK: 222 | DEF: 133
SPA: 377 | SPD: 133
SPE: 335

Acquisition:

Event Reward

Alternates:

None

Sync Grid Recommendations:

Earth Power / Sync Boost (3/5)
‎　+ Superduper Effective / Double Down

Lucky Skill: Critical Strike 2, Weathered Warrior 3

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[junior crown]

Surging Sand 5 and Sand Blaster 5

I remember I went DPS/Sync hybrid with her

she has double down 5 as well

[grand trout]

Oooh ngl I'm excited

[junior crown]

Brain Sync 3

[grand trout]

But I'm not syncing with her lol

[junior crown]

lot of good sync grid

[grand trout]

She has a generic sync (v bad)

I'll use bertha instead

[junior crown]

you can either go Ingo > Courtney or Ingo > Naomi

oh ok

so Ingo > Bertha for sync

then use her full DPS

[grand trout]

Yup

Naomi will be the dps, because if i don't have one the sides will take me out

[mellow linden]

If you’re doing Ingo/Naomi/Bertha then iirc Naomi will at most only have to do 2 X Sp. Atks.

[junior crown]

and bertha raises crit for all

[mellow linden]

Unless you wanna use Ramming Speed

[grand trout]

Ingo can provide the other sp atk raise iirc

[junior crown]

only +2 iirc

so she needs to buff the rest

[grand trout]

Well naomi can provide the other 4 so it's all good

[tired sleet]

On type for ground you won’t need to start attacking that quickly anyway

[grand trout]

I might use scradily for rock

Is he dps unit or nuke unit?

[tired sleet]

Nuke

It’s an amazing nuke, but his DPS is non existent

[grand trout]

Pity roark can't buff his crit

[tired sleet]

And Ingo can slowly top off Ramming Speed. He won’t need to use his TM twice anyway

[grand trout]

Who'll be a good third unit with Roxanne and scradily

ss diantha?

[mellow linden]

Why is Roark being unable to buff crit a problem?

Just run one of the 5 billion Hilbert variants

[grand trout]

Because the other two are roxanne and steven

[tired sleet]

I mean you don’t really need to use Head Smash more than twice (and his TM has sure crit)

[mellow linden]

Roark can act as the sole damage-dealer

[grand trout]

Can he damage even without a crit buff

Oh yeah the tm!

[mellow linden]

So unless you’re dead set on using Lodge Steven you can just use Roark + Attack/crit Support + 3rd pair

[grand trout]

Wait isn't it sure hut

Hit

[tired sleet]

[mellow linden]

Follow-Through in grid, iirc

Lemme check

[tired sleet]

He has sure crit in grid iirc

[waxen parrot]

Lodge steven is a nuke?

[tired sleet]

Yes

[grand trout]

Special rock nuke, yes

[mellow linden]

Yeah, Follow Through 9 in grid

[grand trout]

Omg

[tired sleet]

If you have Cl Gio or Kiawe I’d much rather use them over Roxanne
Or just leave steven at +4 SpAtk and focus on buffing roark fully

[grand trout]

Cl gio? Persian ?

[tired sleet]

Yea

[mellow linden]

I’d say try a wacky Bertha/Lodge Steven/Sycamore team, but Bertha’s being used for Ground

[tired sleet]

Why bertha

Steven wants to use Stealth Rock himself for his sure crit and se up passives

[grand trout]

Let's see what will stick tomorrow

[tired sleet]

Taking down the sides would also be a hassle

[grand trout]

In the meantime, wallace might be good for water

I haven't used that unit for so long

[tired sleet]

If you really want to use wallace, go ahead, but there numerous better water options

[grand trout]

ill pair him up with fina haha yes

[grand trout]

Oh right, bp may

[tired sleet]

Crasher Wake tho

[grand trout]

And for ghost I'll use shsuntal

Her burn damage is so funny

It's less than a scratch now lol

[mellow linden]

Chip damage stalling the sides once center goes down

[tired sleet]

I accidentally did that once, almost died

[spring fable]

Tmr I’ll get to experience MM alola

[swift swan]

Good luck!

It's not too hard

[spring fable]

Ty Nov :

[crystal notch]

Yeaaaah csmm alola

Lets experience it together

[sinful garden]

i still gotta do mine this week

anything i should look out for in particular

[spring fable]

I haven’t looked at what they do, but this will complete my medals, prolly use the same teams for mm too

Will take a look at their passives later and make changes

[old orchid]

This week round parameters mostly benefit your teams more than opponents

[swift swan]

these already look good for MM

[sinful garden]

ight

permanent field effects lookin good

[swift swan]

ooooh next week is rock-weak kahili! how fun

[swift swan]

just be careful with Kahili, right side has toxic with go viral

[main crow]

Ough ground and rock on the same week

Can't put ingo with SS Gio

[grand trout]

Why not

[full mesa]

SSGio can probably solo.

Put Ingo on rock.

Now, if you only want sandstorm for SSGio, just use Acerola.

[main crow]

Nah I ain't running sand Gio, I just really likes the gaugeless mega kick when they're together

[main crow]

Already doing that can't go wrong with Ingo and Emmet duo not actually duoing I'm lazy

[trail smelt]

Gonna try something stupid and go with supportless ground lol

Bertha tanks better than Courtney yeah?

[swift swan]

I did Bertha/Courtney/Cynthia just fine

Bertha tanked well

[nocturne pawn]

the speed on that team sounds painful

[tame gust]

I have such a low amount of ground types.

[mellow linden]

Eh, Courtney has a ton of trainer moves to use, gauge is surprisingly not that big of an issue

[tame gust]

… Can I just do Roark things vs Rock-weak Kahli?

[zealous karma]

Yes

[mellow linden]

Roark will obliterate Kahili no problem

[full mesa]

I'll do Lyra/Courtney/Maxie. I would love Bertha to tank, but Maxie needs spd.

I'm thinking Acerola/AnniRaihan/Olivia for Kahili.

Or SSBlue instead of Acerola.

[brave halo]

So wanted to ask just real quick, which looks like the better team for rock tomorrow? Honestly I don't trust Acerola only being a 1/5 right now

[tired sleet]

The olivia one

[tame gust]

I kinda want to do a SS Misty team for water weak tomorrow but I don't have her gridded (I could, however)

but Misty doesn't do near enough DPS for when I move it to MM. So that's a RIP

[mellow linden]

Depending on who you have you may be able to run a double damage-dealer comp with her

But that’s heavily dependent on who you have

[tame gust]

I wish I could've gotten some OG Kris dupes to raise Gator's move level, alas she's still 1/5. Strongest Water I've got atm is Maypert, but I might save her for ground weak. Actually 1/5 Cynthia would be better than 5/5 EP Maypert, yeah?

[mellow linden]

I’m actually not sure how they compare

But you definitely have Cyrus for Water

[tame gust]

true, I do.

But Cyrus is the OU answer

I've also got 3/5 Bertha. Since I'm trying to plan for type weaknesses and such.

[tame gust]

Kay so here are my teams (I’ll probably change the Mola team after I unlock MM tomorrow since all I need are Water, Bug, Fighting and Flying medals)

Actually wait hold on, don’t have a water type in there lmao

Could just meme and do Egg Blastoise for rain dance on the Cyrus team

[mellow linden]

Just use May since she’s not on a different team

As the Rain setter

[zealous karma]

SSMisty wants a support who can provide her Spatk evasion crit and rain (So SSKris CCalem or SSMina and have and have someone outsource the evasion and crit)

[junior crown]

evasion and crit means NY Lillie

or BP Janine (just takes longer and some RNG)

[wicked pebble]

How does this look for this week?

Any adjustments I should make?

[old orchid]

What move level is your SS Red?

If he is 3/5 and above, replace Roxanne with an atk buffer

[wicked pebble]

3/5, yeah

[swift swan]

I'd replace Hilbert with a mixed support instead

[zealous karma]

They’ll win all the same

I just hope you understand why we are suggesting them

[sand karma]

Without ingo idk what to do to make an ideal team for Olivia
Hilbert/ Olivia/ SSDiantha vs Acerola/Olivia/ SSDiantha

I've used the first team so far and it always seems like SSD is doing all the work

[proud axle]

Could swap Acerola out for Bertha. She has a little bit of support and tank capability

[trail smelt]

Last hour get your stuff done

Well last 40 minutes lol

[swift swan]

start speedrunning, you last minute players

[crystal galleon]

As someone who's always run postsync, I must say, presync Kahili with Leon and Calyrex was exhilarating. And yes, I'm speedrunning again lol.

[swift swan]

presync is exhilarating indeed

[crystal galleon]

I'd also not like to experience that for another few rotations, but that's wishful thinking

Done, w/ 12 min to spare, maybe next week I won't leave it to the last minute (I probably will)

[swift swan]

once you presync you can never go back

the adrenaline! the risks! the fast-paced battles!

[toxic cobalt]

The resets

[swift swan]

the resets!

watching SS Blue get three-shotted!

[paper summit]

rookie numbers

[swift swan]

one-shotted?

[paper summit]

get your tank one shotted is the pro strat, yes

[swift swan]

it happens often when my SS Kris had to eat a first-turn seed bomb

[toxic cobalt]

Kukui ripped through Blue this week

[crystal galleon]

Yeah I think I'll stick with post sync. Takes longer but at least I don't need to reset a dozen times+ just to get that 1st turn status/interference.

[swift swan]

just after we were talking about presync, half sync countdown came to ruin it

after further inspection, Olivia is water-weak and I'm confident I can presync her even with half sync countdown

[sand karma]

https://tenor.com/view/vader-noooo-gif-4825231

[paper summit]

Kris gaming

[swift swan]

I was thinking Cerena, but I guess I can make Kris work

[paper summit]

Serena is cheating

always funny to destroy your enemies with no need for a 2nd sync

[swift swan]

I'm just gonna watch water shuriken delete the HP bar

kris's mega kick is also quite scary though

[paper summit]

and that's assuming they survive her sync

[swift swan]

last time I ran Kris with an EX support, I couldn't get to second sync because mega kick destroyed

[main crow]

Of all things to happen you hit the ghost zone proc 😭

[old orchid]

Half sync countdown this week?

[swift swan]

Yes

[old orchid]

we just had perma field effect

[paper summit]

easy

[crystal notch]

Anyone to specifically avoid for r4?

[old orchid]

Olivia because her TM buffs +2 crit and she uses the TM right before sync

Hau is also a threat if you choose R4 param because he buffs spatk right before sync

[trail smelt]

LMAO just to flex, I use half sync countdown for champ

Won easily

[devout sluice]

It’s best if choose the faint parameter.

[trail smelt]

Ready for next week

Still find it odd we get ground weak two straight weeks

[old orchid]

well because there are 2 different Ground weak stages

[trail smelt]

True true

[swift swan]

You know what... It's dragon-weak

I'm gonna choose half sync param on Hau

[devout sluice]

Time for Dark weak shenanigans next week.

[trail smelt]

Aye I saw my roster and went with it lol

[marsh crater]

Candy and ex my cynthia garchomp for the ground weak. So powerful

[marsh crater]

My dark team are ready. Cmarnie, sc zinnia, sydney absol, ccalem. Tho i think sydney and zinnia are enough. Ccalem and cmarnie can offtype other stages

[verbal karma]

What's the preferred order for this week's CS?

[marsh crater]

My order is ghost, water, ground, rock

[verbal karma]

...oh...

I was thinking about going Ghost for R4

[marsh crater]

4th round kinda tricky sync countdown

Since i have ss diantha. I put rock weak on 4th

After i mega evolve diancie, use diantha tm move to reduce sync countdown so i can sync again immediately after.

[verbal karma]

Ah, I don't have SS Diantha

...okay, since R1 is Spec. Damage reduction, which E4 members primarily use Spec. Damage this week?

[old orchid]

+pomatools

[frozen depot]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs

[old orchid]

Menu > Champion Stadium

Read their info there

[verbal karma]

...they all do physical 😦

R1 is literally throwaway

Damn, they all have the same Defense, too 😦

R1, R2 and R3 are all throwaway

How am I supposed to pick the order now?

The only thing I know for real is that I wanna do R4 Acerola, but that's it

[old orchid]

Then do the first 3 stages in any order

What dmg dealers are you planning to bring in each stage?

[verbal karma]

Well, I am trying to find that order...

[verbal karma]

I would have decided on that based on the chosen Round parameters

But here are my overall candidates for damage dealing

at least for R1-R3

Since I already know who I want to use for R4

[late grove]

hmm the level 1 emmet

r3 can be for kahili since you got a physical rock striker

[main crow]

R3 Kahili become a presync even when I use a post sync param with Emmet

Granted there was a lot of flinching

[verbal karma]

Damn, you got both Subway Bros

Anyway, R3 Kahili and R4 Acerola, understood

Now I need to decide who to pick for Molayne and Olivia

[main crow]

Any strong water DPS is fine for Olivia

You can run May/Archie/support for water

Overkill but gets the job done still

[late grove]

off type molayne

[verbal karma]

...damn, do I really have to off-type Molayne? 😦

[old orchid]

For Ground you can use Naomi

[verbal karma]

Thnx

...ah, shoot, both the Water and Ground damage dealer are Spec. Damage, tho...

which goes against R1

[old orchid]

That param means Light Screen at the start

And crit bypasses Light Screen

[verbal karma]

Hmm...still no idea if Water for R1 or Ground...

...should R1 be the team I am less confident in?

[verbal karma]

Alright, Ground for R1, I guess

[trail smelt]

Half sync rounds are the ones you wanna have your strongest and fastest clearing team with

[verbal karma]

SS Elesa/Renegade Cynthia/Fall Acerola counts as that, right?

[marble orbit]

Is it just me or are the e4 this week all... weak to their pokemon's original weakness in the games

[swift swan]

Depends. What move level are cynthia and acerola

You want a good nuke

[verbal karma]

...I think I picked the wrong support for R1 Molayne 😦

Kiawe gets stomped on way too damn hard

Who should I replace Kiawe with?

[verbal karma]

Renegade Cynthia: 2
Fall Acerola: 3

...I technically can raise Renegade Cynthia to 3 right now as well

I have 2 candies, after all

Just don't know if I should

[verbal karma]

Anyway, Kiawe replacement is more important right now

[swift swan]

Hmm, not sure if acerola's nuke is easy enough to set up for first sync

[verbal karma]

Hmm...

...Fall Acerola is also EX'd, btw

[verbal karma]

...okay, I really need help with this first, tho

[late grove]

sc jasmine

[sand karma]

Dragon weak
Used sync accel against hau and still Dialga+Palkia rips

[verbal karma]

She has even less survivability than Kiawe 😦

Yeah, Kiawe actually just has more Defense than SC Jasmine

Is there seriously no Crit buffing support who can actually survive High Horse Power well enough?

Actually, wait

Bertha has Team Sharp Entry

I don't need a crit buffer

[formal vigil]

Have you tried tanking with bertha?

And maybe use sabrina or melony for reflect

[swift swan]

My bertha tanked high horse power just fine

[swift swan]

I'm not too confident but it's worth a try, just make sure the opponent is confused

Though I wouldn't use ss elesa. Bring a physical support

Iirc your ss elesa is EXd but unless you get a lot of breathtaking MPRs I don't think you can reach 2nd sync before the opponent

So the goal is to KO first sync

[trail smelt]

Yeah I went with this supportless ground team and it was fine.

[swift swan]

Ayyy same team as mine

[trail smelt]

Hippowdon be thick

[swift swan]

More like, Cynthia killed way too quickly 💀

Why worry about gauge issues when the battle ends before you face gauge issues

[sand karma]

Same team

I love Bertha

[marble orbit]

I really wanna use May Swampert, any good choices for her in a team?

[main crow]

Roxanne and a crit support

Is this for MM or hard mode?

[marble orbit]

Hard mode

For crit support is Lyra Chiko ok?

Or Phoebe

[main crow]

Yeah any crit support with a type you haven't filled is fine

[versed meteor]

Whats the use of this week r1 when the only special attacker is weak to a type that mostly uses special moves

[grand trout]

God

I was unlucky in not getting a crit on wallace twice in a row

On the nuke

[trail smelt]

Crits ignore this parameter’s effect. So you still deal full damage while the enemy gets nerfed

[old orchid]

note that Light Screen aka the round parameter effect only stays until the allied first sync

[versed meteor]

Anyone know why olivia stage didn't get affected by haze?

No stat reduction was off

Don't bother it worked later

[spring fable]

Is r1 bypass-able with crits?

[versed meteor]

Am not talking about it as a hindrance am talking of it that its useless

[versed meteor]

Yes

[spring fable]

Oh nice

[old orchid]

its literally Light Screen at start

[spring fable]

Anyone I should try to avoid for r4?

[old orchid]

Olivia

[versed meteor]

Whose idea was it for a + 2crit

[spring fable]

Looks like it’s Olivia r2 since pins dont recommend Olivia r3 too

Left with Molayne and Kahili

R3 Kahili r4 molayne sound good?

[austere quest]

Finally did CSMM 12.5k

Easy peasy except for Hau who I had to reset because he wiped me somehow

[dark osprey]

why is Olivia R4 an issue?

[formal vigil]

her tm giveing her +2 crit after sync

[spring fable]

What order did you do?

[austere quest]

I started with Acerola for R1 with SSKorrina+SCSteven+Tank

Then R2 was Kahlil with SSDiantha+CBlue+RedLax

[dark osprey]

oh ok. i guess r4 is mainly based on ur roster

[austere quest]

R3 was Oliva I think? I killed her Pre Sync with Frogs+SSLysandre

R4 was Glasses boi with SSGio+Ground Zone+Third

[dark osprey]

personally did acerola, olivia, kahili, molayne

[formal vigil]

i did olivia last

[dark osprey]

ah hehe nice

[austere quest]

Olivia was so easy

[formal vigil]

kris wiped the stage fast olivia couldn't do anything

[austere quest]

Pre Sync Death was fun

Frogs too good

[formal vigil]

apart from sync ig

[austere quest]

Water Weak Stages go brrrrrr

[dark osprey]

that's what i was thinking too. Kris would just do it despite the reduced sync parameter

[spring fable]

Oo

Why does my ground wish not work?

Against r3 kahili

[formal vigil]

the no field affect parameter

turn it off

[spring fable]

Ah your right

Ty

Kahili down

Err

Molayne r4 sync one shotted me at 4 def stacks

Nooo

[spring fable]

Still stuck

Imma try offtype

[keen jasper]

How are you losing with that?

[lunar meadow]

Are the all 1/5?

[spring fable]

Yes

[old orchid]

I suggest doing offtype instead

Or stall

[full mesa]

Yeah, Cynthia needs that 3/5. Try off type and keep your best stall for Champion in case something goes south.

[spring fable]

off type post sync?

[full mesa]

Or pre sync. Depends on your roster.

Post sync is safer most of the time.

[swift swan]

yeah I don't think 1/5 Cynthia can presync R4

[swift swan]

champion is dragon-weak, I think R4 is more threatening than whatever Hau can pull off

[full mesa]

Then poison stall it is

We have enough f2p dragon options.

[zealous karma]

!!

[swift swan]

wow richu that message was almost 12 hours ago

no, I didn't end up using Kris

[zealous karma]

Anger

[swift swan]

maybe I'll give her a try some time later this week

watch as I forget

[zealous karma]

I thought these units were tanky!

[paper summit]

or intentionally do not use her just to make Richu even angrier

[zealous karma]

20K first sync Bertha almost games bht the gauge sucks so bad

[swift swan]

what is this, some 3k challenge?

also is that round 4

[zealous karma]

That’s round 2

Lyra hates hates queueing

[paper summit]

isn't her gauge support almost nonexistent? ngl, I kinda forgot her kit other than rebuff

[zealous karma]

It’s never enough

[paper summit]

ok, yeah, it's literally only Sands of Time 2 on grid and having a 1 bar move, not enough in the slightest

[zealous karma]

She also has Freevenge 2

I needed to take off strength 3 for standard dr rip

Fianlly on round 2!!

I forgot Roark existed and I thought rock would be tough few

[potent wadi]

I thought there were some stages that had Sentry/Wise Entry x2 this month, is that not the case?

[old orchid]

I think only Electric weak Acerola has 1.5x SpDef

No Alola stage has either Wise or Sentry Entry x2

[zealous karma]

The passive was truly introduced during the second anni EBE’s

[latent eagle]

Is there an order for the rounds for this weeks CS

[mellow linden]

Just carefully plan your rounds 3 and 4, really

[zealous karma]

Roark is so overkill on type….

[crystal notch]

hmmm

kris vs cyrus-palkia rain team for olivia?

[swift swan]

why didn't you take it in the first place

[crystal notch]

I wasted my lucky skills to grid zinn for dauntless

[swift swan]

both are great

[crystal notch]

got vigilance

so I can run either zinn or cyrus for hau

[swift swan]

I guess you can try Kris vs Olivia so you have two options for Hau in case things go south

[crystal notch]

noted

[swift swan]

Kris has an insane nuke

great mega kick DPS too, especially if you slap a support EX

[crystal notch]

better to go nuke build

or super powered build?

wait...I'm on 1/5

L

[formal vigil]

well for nuke you want super powered

since it affects both sync and normal moves

[crystal notch]

I was referring to this

but it was irrelevant anyways

since my kris is 1/5

and therefore locked out of the grid LMAO

[main crow]

I will remind you bc I need more Kris truther

[crystal notch]

...hmm, who do I half sync? honestly, my strong on type team is probably f2p rain team

[crystal notch]

cries in 1/5

[main crow]

Fuck what is wrong with discord not replying

[crystal notch]

like, I doubt gio mewtwo can half sync

I might offtype molayne with steoxys

because ground options where

kahili will be a pain to do because...ehhh, what supports do I really have to deal with her toxic

bring marley?

marley bertha olivia

sounds rough

[main crow]

Are doing hard mode or MM?

[crystal notch]

MM

done with hard mode already

[main crow]

I personally recommended rock sliders bc of the annoying toxic on kahili

Grant/SS Brock/Sonia is a funny lineup that works

[crystal notch]

do I have rock sliders, now that's the good question

time to raise em up ig

2.5k possible with 1/5 sonia?

[main crow]

Uh hold on

[crystal notch]

don't remember when she gets flinch

[main crow]

Flinch is 3/5

It's gonna be a difficult one without the crit

SS Brock can get himself to +6 atk but grant would be stuck at +4

Lemme try smth real quick

Okay that lack of crit really hurts

[main crow]

Don't Marley have a status condition shield?

[swift swan]

actually this is decent

worth a try

bertha gives the crit and sand, olivia needs to max her own attack, but speed is taken care of by Marley

I don't know what move level your Olivia is, but at 2/5 she can already do this #1011173305702690876 message

[crystal notch]

Yea

[scarlet smelt]

So I just unlocked master mode, what are typically the “best” parameters?

[crystal notch]

Check the pins

[mellow linden]

There’s some example parameters in the pins that you can adjust as needed. If you’re new to Master Mode you might want to start with 850-1500 points per stage rather than jumping immediately into 2500 points per stage

[zealous karma]

I hate the Dr passives

lel

[swift swan]

it's standard damage reduction and you're even running a monotype team!

[paper summit]

the person that always cries about hating off type not taking standard damage reduction?!

and yes, I know your excuse is you hate seeing your supports doing nothing, but c'mon...

[scarlet smelt]

Gotcha, thanks. Guess I’ll settle for 850-1500 till my roster gets a little bit better

[zealous karma]

I also like to use SSDiantha as a third so it’s honestly super rare for my third ti be the same type lel

I rarely touch my params with this new update tho

[noble plaza]

Is there a certain order I should fight the elite four members in?

Oh I just noticed the pins give some tips. So no Olivia for R3 and R4. Who should I save for R4?

[north crown]

your strongest team

or one that is built specifically for half sync

[full mesa]

I'm definitely doing Olivia R4. AnniRaihan/Olivia/Something to buff Olivia.

[noble plaza]

hmm...this is my roster and I have Fighting, Poison, Ground, Dragon, and Dark left for the type medals. I see a lot of people start with Accerola but I'm not sure which Ghost sync pair to use. I don't have a lot of invested Ghost types apart from Accerola and somewhat Allister (but he's 1/5)

I have Ingo and Cynthia so Molayne should hopefully be easy

[north crown]

oh it's hard mode. shouldn't be a challenge

[noble plaza]

Hopefully! Just getting some decision paralysis

[north crown]

happens to the best of us

[noble plaza]

I have no clue where I would use a Poison or Dark type.

[north crown]

filler mon

or piers

[versed meteor]

what team comp can beat olivia before her sync

[noble plaza]

what battle would Piers fit on?

[north crown]

idk depends on who you're using

you know how to teambuild

speaking of, @versed meteor do you know how to teambuild?

[north crown]

could slap poison here

[noble plaza]

oh, really?

[north crown]

wdym "oh really?" bro I quoted your "overkill" team

[versed meteor]

Yeh, i can clear with cserena but i want to use her elsewhere

[north crown]

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

[noble plaza]

it was rhetorical...

[north crown]

that was not my question... anyone can throw a master fair at a decent stage and beat it

I'm just gonna assume yoyu (Broke/ultimate) don't/doesn't know how

[noble plaza]

and I'm sorry that team was overkill, those are just the two my mind goes to when I think of good ground sync pairs

[north crown]

why are you sorry for making an overkill team on CS? I get that you're trying to save pairs, however if those pairs don't fit anywhere else, might as well go overkill and carry a type while you're at it

save that mindset for LG

[noble plaza]

fair

[north crown]

+101 @versed meteor

[frozen depot]

> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you have done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding and gameplay.

1. When making a team, you usually want to focus building around a selected damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or not if they are strong enough to off-type). This can be a / striker or a tech. Take the time to read that damage dealer's kit in its entirety (moves and passives) to see what they can buff themselves. Critical-Hit Rate maxes at +3 while all other main buffs go to +6. Damage dealers should be in slot 3 for tactics.

2. Once you figured out your damage dealer, pick a to put on slot 1 in tactics so it takes the damage. The support will often want to cover the buffs the damage dealer needs and cannot max by themselves reliably (look for critical-hit rate, attack or special attack for example). If your damage dealer is fully self sustainable, the support can cover healing or defensive utility as needed!

3. Finally your last slot is entirely flexible and depends on your first two picks. You can take a tech focusing on utility like debuffs or weather/terrain that empowers your damage dealer, or another support that focuses on defenses and healing to survive longer, perhaps even boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a second damage dealer! It's important to experiment and remember that a successful team will be able to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealer fast so they can focus on pumping out damage as soon as possible!

Want to know more about Triple-Queue and other information about the game? Visit our #1010307000346878062 or check the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone!

[noble plaza]

i just interpreted your message as you saying it was a bad thing

[north crown]

ah that happens sometimes

been trying to change that a bit

Honestly if you have some experience in teambuilding, you could probably do this easily. Don't worry about optimizating much, as you're going for the type medal anyways

oh I could've referred Broke/ultimate to #1010307000346878062 instead of pasting a command here

eh read both; the more the merrier

[versed meteor]

Also why tf does the recommended csmm points stuff not do "no stat reduction" or am i just playing the game wrong

[north crown]

I'll just give a f2p example to fight this week's Olivia

are you reducing the opponents' stats? I doubt it considering the fact that you asked for someone to create a team here

[noble plaza]

it's okay, I get it. thanks for clarifying

[north crown]

anyways uhhh...

Olivia Team: Rosa EX (Support EX), Cyrus, Winona/May

it's the staple f2p water dps team

warning: you do need Cyrus' hydro pump grid for crit and damage multipliers, but he's busted enough to offtype with it, so I'd say it's well worth the investment

If you don’t want to deal with critical focus rng with Spatial Rend, replace Rosa with a crit buffer

[junior crown]

About the dark/poison pairs dependa on what you have. BP Janine or Supp Weezing can be good

You can do one round of poison stall to cover poison too (and if you need bug can combine with Viola in a special stage)

If you have masked royal can use him for speed + debuff or nanu for debuff + flinch

Those are the pairs that fits most of the teams because they can be used for buff/debuff

[stray sentinel]

Idk why this stadium is confusing me is it all physical?

[paper summit]

hmm? wdym?

[junior crown]

This week all of them have physical moves

The most special focused is Hau (but even him have physical moves on middle and sides)

[paper summit]

some of the stages are mixed, like, one of the sides has special moves

I think only Molayne is fully physical

[stray sentinel]

oh

[noble plaza]

WOOO! I defeated the second Champion week and I unlocked hard mode!

[stray sentinel]

COngrats

[zealous karma]

congratz and gl!

[trail smelt]

How is it useless when there is a special attacker?

[fiery canopy]

new week everybunny lets go

alrightalrightalrightalright
now lets see who goes first

would any of these do against acerola?

[nocturne pawn]

shauntal gridded can do work

[fiery canopy]

kk

[versed meteor]

And the weakness of that stage is dominated by special moves

[trail smelt]

Which we ignore but they can’t

Unless the enemy Crits of course

[versed meteor]

Yeh

[safe monolith]

how do I counter CSMM Moylane's Toughen Up 4?

[tired sleet]

Crits bypass defence increases, so it shouldn’t be a problem

[safe monolith]

why is my pikachu doing like 5k after 2nd sync

[rotund lagoon]

Debuffing is an option too if your team allows

[tired sleet]

Just don’t use strategies that revolve around defence reduction and it’ll be fine

[rotund lagoon]

Did you turn on Special Damage Reduction?

[safe monolith]

no lmao

like it does 25K

then 17K

then 5

💀

[rotund lagoon]

Wait what match is this?

[safe monolith]

Moylane

[rotund lagoon]

You’re off typing Molayne with Ash? Ohhh

[safe monolith]

yeah with Sonia EX and Volkner with ET

[tired sleet]

It does that much and he’s still alive?

[rotund lagoon]

Can you record your match?

[safe monolith]

yeah he's tanky as hell

[safe monolith]

sure but don't be shocked that i play terribly

[rotund lagoon]

[safe monolith]

you don't understand

i can lose the current meta

[tired sleet]

He has the usual bulk for CS (18k without params, 26k HP with max strength)

What params are you taking?

[safe monolith]

I can't wait to be absolutely mocked and destroyed for posting this

[mellow linden]

Ash wouldn’t worry about Molayne’s Toughen up anyways

[tired sleet]

If people judge you then that’s their problem; this is a help channel

[mellow linden]

Thunder and B Thunderbolt are special, Toughen Up buffs Defense and not Sp. Def.

[tired sleet]

Can you show the params you’re using?

[safe monolith]

oh i do have sp reduction

[mellow linden]

You’re using “Not Gonna Lose” too early in the fight, for one thing

[safe monolith]

wdym

when should it be used

[mellow linden]

Special Damage Reduction 8 or the 50 point one?

[safe monolith]

50

omg and 8

what the hell is wrong with me

[mellow linden]

8 will affect Ash’s damage, the 50 point one won’t

[safe monolith]

i have no idea how i missed that

[tired sleet]

Considering how they have early sync i think its fine, since the dmg guard’ll protect him from sync

[mellow linden]

Ah, is it half-Sync round? I guess it’s fine then

But usually you click that move right before B Thunderbolt, not immediately

[tired sleet]

Tbh you don’t even need to click it off type, as it won’t boost damage

[mellow linden]

Yeah, off-type it has little to no value outside of niche scenarios like this one

[safe monolith]

thanks guys

aaaand i accidentally did 2.45k

on the 4th out of 5 stages

[old orchid]

Ouch

[tired sleet]

[safe monolith]

i didn't need that power up ticket anyway

[grand trout]

You can reset

[rotund lagoon]

If you completed it once this week, yes you can.

[meager agate]

the game died from being morty’d
unlucky

[civic trellis]

Mort’d too hard

[keen jasper]

[versed jetty]

Done it. Now I can think of doing it in MM.

[trail smelt]

You got it

Also huh why SSHilda in that fight

[wide adder]

Would this set of teams have any major flaws most likely?

[old orchid]

Zerena's team has gauge issue

[main crow]

Does Zerena needs sand?

I feel like a ground zone should be more than enough

[old orchid]

she doesnt need sand

[wide adder]

wasnt sure what to put in berthas slot exactly, just had gotten 2/5 and wasnt sure what that gives yet

[old orchid]

better slot in a gauge support, preferly who can buff crit

[wide adder]

so like cobalion

[main crow]

That could work but fast track 4 is a bit rng reliant

[wide adder]

i was just thinking due to tm and dh+all

[main crow]

Oh shit right

MGA

Sonia works too since you have her and she's not in any team

[wide adder]

true, ill slot sonia then. i keep forgetting bout her since doesnt show in crit+ filter

[old orchid]

[marsh crater]

Alola CS is one of the hardest cs?

[old orchid]

its one of mid difficult CS

along with Unova

[marsh crater]

The hardest is Hoenn?

[old orchid]

the hardest one depends on your roster and skill

its among Sinnoh, Hoenn and Kalos

[marsh crater]

Ok i beat Kalos and Sinnoh. Just left Hoenn

[dark osprey]

who's better for a ground F2P ish clear, Hapu or Clay?

[old orchid]

Hapu

[dark osprey]

really. maybe was using a bad grid

[old orchid]

If you count f2p limited pairs, Naomi is way better than both

[dark osprey]

ah yeah true

Hapu nuking a bit more i guess

not counting Naomi i.e

[old orchid]

Clay has better nuke but requires too much setup

And the effort to setup is not worth it

[dark osprey]

I mean I am not expecting both to clear presync tbh

unless with some OP pairs

[crystal notch]

Where naomi

Hmmm offtype molayne with steoxys

Who do I bring

I'm already bringing ssa cynthia

So atk deoxys doesn't die on me in case of AoEs (does molayne have it)

[dark osprey]

u do get the AOE sync so it should clear the sides

get Bianca and anyone tbh

maybe a crit buffer so that Bianca can also do some damage

[old orchid]

Arts doesnt have Bianca sadly

[dark osprey]

oh crap

[crystal notch]

No bianca moment

[old orchid]

So a spdef debuffer then

Or another dmg dealer

[dark osprey]

Lucian?

[crystal notch]

It's the number one disclaimer I put on every discussion regarding steoxys teams (I just forgor to put here)

Gio is already using Lucian vs acerola

[old orchid]

Can you post your roster here? We might find a hidden gem

[crystal notch]

Sure

[dark osprey]

Acerola u can try and use shauntal and agatha together if possible

[dark osprey]

i mean agatha can be put into any solid duo core

[crystal notch]

Not pictured inside: CyruSS, lodge blue, lodge elesa

[dark osprey]

sleep cheese if not a turn off

[crystal notch]

They don't get resistance?

Sleep cheese acerola?

Or molayne?

[dark osprey]

there's no resistance in CS

mostly

[old orchid]

I think you should keep Giovanni team, while sleep cheese Molayne

[dark osprey]

yeah. i guess so. it would help saving orbs

but whenever u have orbs, can maybe grid Shauntal. she does some great damage with her grid plus is great on gauge and decent setup

[crystal notch]

Alright, r4 sleep cheese molayne with steoxys + darkrai

[crystal notch]

I mean, I do have 60k orbs, it's just that I'm not using gio anywhere else to begin with

[dark osprey]

yeah true.

so its Gio, lucian & which support?

[crystal notch]

Honestly no idea. Ex Blue? Leaf? Rosa?

I could ex Sonia too

Wait no brain shortcircuited

[dark osprey]

Rosa is std F2P

[crystal notch]

I was planning to slot sycamore

For sp atk +6

[dark osprey]

ah yeah that's nice too

[crystal notch]

Yeah so that should solve acerola

[dark osprey]

for molayne could try with Skyla as support i think

[old orchid]

They have SSA Cynthia

[dark osprey]

oh nice

[old orchid]

I discussed with them about teams in their thread earlier

[dark osprey]

sry my bad

[old orchid]

You can pay their thread a visit #1095931089173885010

[crystal notch]

Nah its alright, I was the one who accidentally moved the discussion here

[manic kiln]

both can presync with scsteven there are some other options but harder to pull off

[crystal notch]

...huh, so I can theoretically ontype molayne

But eh, not interested

Better to play with favs

[dark osprey]

yeah. actually i think both together with SS Blue as a F2Pish team may be able to do that

SC Steven is just nuts ngl

[dark osprey]

no. just another discussion i initiated

u could but better not to with those two

[full mesa]

I had so much fun this time. Tried out new combos and it was awesome.

[crystal notch]

I'm struggling with 1/5 kris

For Olivia r2

Is it supposed to be that hard without her nuke tiles

Was using this team *already evolved to feraligatr btw

[tribal agate]

well on paper yeah both Kris and May 1/5 aren't that amazing but you do have cBede EX there to help out the DPS if anything

there's also the issue that Olivia has the highest HP and offensive stats of the 5 this week

[crystal notch]

Ah

Yeah, that...kinda shows

[tribal agate]

like the others average 17k and she has 24k

so add parameters to that and boom

and you're using dmg dealers with no grid so

yeah i can see why it could be a problem

[dark osprey]

May seems still fine. if Cyrus isn't booked for Hau, can use him

or striker gyarados would be great

[tribal agate]

depends on your Water & Dragon pairs left

if you have another dragon to tackle Hau then yeah Cyrus could be an answer

[dark osprey]

tbh Hau is kinda simpler with a special damage dealer since the round paramater helps

so Zinnia should be good

[tribal agate]

i was thinking about Zinnia but theirs is not powerboosted at all

and they likely don't have Dauntless either

so it's just a headache

[dark osprey]

oh. yeah. that would be a concern

[crystal notch]

...wait, mine is powerboosted and dauntless'd

Are you thinking of someone else?

[tribal agate]

oh your Zinnia is EX and has Mega?

then that's much stronger than Cyrus ahah

yeah use Cyrus for Water

[crystal notch]

Noted

[dark osprey]

there's also striker dos

if u got them

try them out maybe if u can

[crystal notch]

right, what's the grid for marley

all speed?

was looking at defensive utility

and realizing no speed mpr at all

[grand steppe]

You need +6?

[swift swan]

Wow, Marley at 3* has a higher defense than Bertha, interesting

[crystal notch]

hmm, it seems like it?

don't think olivia nor bertha provides

[swift swan]

Iirc Olivia has amped up

[crystal notch]

so...what grid, then?

[old orchid]

i would use Flag Bearer grid

[grand steppe]

Most mons with speed multipliers should buff themselves a bit

[crystal notch]

I see, noted

[swift swan]

Just remember bertha's sandstorm will disappear right before sync and it will ruin your quadqueue

So remember to set it up again

[crystal notch]

lmao sure noted

so how do I set up amped up?

should I click olivia tm twice then stone edge once

would she become sandpaper thin though

[swift swan]

Olivia tm once

Bertha handles the rest of crit

[crystal notch]

noted

any turn order thoughts?

[swift swan]

She's more of a nuker, so if you're low on gauge, her 1 bar move is fine

[old orchid]

at least click TM and X Attack once

i would use TM -> X Attack twice -> sync

[swift swan]

Not much turn order for marley other than saving her TM after toxic I suppose

Bertha goes TM, TM, sandstorm

[crystal notch]

for olivia right

[crystal notch]

when does kahili toxic again

after allied first sync?

or just before sync

[old orchid]

yup

[old orchid]

Toxic comes from the right Salamence

[crystal notch]

L, so that's 6 allied moves in

noted

[swift swan]

It depends on RNG

[nocturne pawn]

you should try to deny on kahili

if you arent confident

[swift swan]

It can use toxic as the 2nd move

[nocturne pawn]

for me it wasnt that bad because ss diantha rolls over literally everything but toxic can be frustrating to work with

[swift swan]

I had a run where salamence didn't use toxic

[crystal notch]

should I try denying anyone or anything

[old orchid]

try to quad queue at least

[swift swan]

It helps denying one side, but I don't think it's needed

What I did prior to my Olivia getting EXd was doing DPS on sides and nuking mid. Her nuke is good enough to oneshot comfortably (I run full attack params, so as little bulk as possible)

[zealous karma]

Marleys surprisingly tanky

[crystal notch]

with bertha?