Champion Stadium

[old orchid]

Ummm you have Alder

[mellow linden]

Eh, I was able to KO Blue using Lusamine on post-Sync parameters just after he Synced (would have been just before if I'd gotten quadqueue) with Lusamine, so Alder + EX Skyla should be fine on pre-Sync

[verbal karma]

He hits like a wet towel

[old orchid]

Bring a spdef debuffer

And no need to ping

[mellow linden]

He shouldn't. Do you maybe still have Special Damage Reduction 8 by accident?

[verbal karma]

Nope

[grand steppe]

Blue has the same Def & Sp. Def, the category of move shouldn't matter.

You can clear this stage with Bugsy. 🙂

This isn't Blue, but Lucian has more HP.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011736960701829191/1040816033654648832/Bugsy.mp4

[manic kiln]

People underestimate 1/5 pokefair units again. They should work as long as you have the right supports and adjust parameters to fit your team. 1/5 alder might not be that great but still better than the gen pool bug units

[crystal notch]

wait, we were talking about beedrill bugsy, yes?

just making sure

[old orchid]

Yes

[toxic cobalt]

3/5

[verbal karma]

and yet his sync attack hits like a wet towel

the only thing I can get from Adler that is even close to good damage is his Hyper Beam

and I obviously can't just spam that willynilly

[manic kiln]

You should spam hyperbeam not his sync

[verbal karma]

spam hyperbeam how exactly?

it eats the entire move gauge

[manic kiln]

Most striker at 1/5 don’t have any multiplier

What do you expect from their sync

[verbal karma]

I'unno...something, I guess

[crystal notch]

How's your speed buffer doing

[tribal agate]

do you have Lucian available? (and if yes at what move level)

[manic kiln]

You still sync with him but the most useful thing his sync bring is rejuvenatate 6

You can pair him with a tech nuke

[manic mica]

With adler emmet gonna be a good pair but both are at 1/5

??

[tribal agate]

i wouldn't pair Alder and Emmet ever

[keen jasper]

What even is their synergy?

[tribal agate]

they're both extremely gauge hungry and are different categories altogether making it just bad for synergy

[keen jasper]

Besides using 8 gauges in one turn

[manic mica]

Or pinser makes sense or bugsy??

[keen jasper]

You would need offensive support on both of them

[tribal agate]

Emmet or Alder on their own are more than enough for bug weakness

pair a support to buff them faster and you can have third slot either more gauge or a debuffer

[manic mica]

So pinser makes sense with aaron & alder

[tribal agate]

no...

[keen jasper]

Alder is enough to handle

[manic mica]

But he is at 1/5

[civic trellis]

I was able to clear with skyla lodge dawn and alder (1/5)

[keen jasper]

Also you don't have a speed buffer for Alder's gauges

[main crow]

Alder appreciates if you could slot in someone like Lucian

[tribal agate]

Aaron is a physical buffer, but Alder is fully special
Aaron other than tanking would serve little purpose in that team and waste Alder's turns
You also lack speed or gauge for Alder

[main crow]

If you have him of course

[crystal notch]

What's with people discounting trainers based solely on move levels

If its someone like elesa with recoil I understand

[main crow]

Saw too much 3/5 or 5/5 flex on yt or other forums maybe

[tribal agate]

Aaron can work for Alder but Alder would have to use his TM then a single Dire Hit+ so keep that in mind
third slot needs to be someone for speed or gauge

i'd also personally swap Alder for Emmet since the latter is just stronger and synergizes better with your Aaron

[main crow]

Anyway, majority of modern pairs are viable at 1/5, built that way on purpose

[civic trellis]

Btw bug lucian has wise entry right? May need to invest in bugsy to do dual striker with noland

[civic trellis]

Even some older fairs work at 1/5 like alder and N I think

[tribal agate]

you can do something like

Emmet + Aaron + Marley

[manic mica]

Lucian with jirafarig right??

[keen jasper]

Yes also wrong spelling

[tribal agate]

yes but that's if you use Alder not Emmet

[civic trellis]

Dont have emmet unfortunately

[tribal agate]

i was replying to ASHNINJA

[civic trellis]

Oh

[manic mica]

Ok i will try this combo for last fight

[tribal agate]

👍

best of luck

[manic mica]

Thank you🌹

[tribal agate]

Just as a disclaimer, in CS it always goes like this to succeed :

• 60% gameplay
• 30% teambuilding
• 10% RNG

so we figured the teambuilding, but if you're struggling, make sure you detail what happened in the fight

[grand steppe]

If you can record your gameplay that'd be helpful. If you need to compress the video's size, you can use CapCut app to speed up the footage so it's shorter.

[keen jasper]

And when it comes to EBs, this is likely the way to succeed:

• 20% teambuiling
• 15% gameplay
• 65% RNG

[tribal agate]

well EBs have fixed rotations unlike CS so i fail to understand why RNG is involved

[keen jasper]

Because of stuff like MP refreshes for survivability

[tribal agate]

i mean sure ig but that can be said for most content

[keen jasper]

And for fully setting up

[main crow]

If anything EB is mostly team building since you're tend to be limited in your options

[swift swan]

2023/06/19 - 2023/06/26
R1: Sync buffs are more effective (postsyncing here is not recommended)
R2: Debuffs are more effective
R3: Physical damage reduction at start
R4: Status conditions are more effective
R5: Special attack moves are powered up

Note: The damage reduction on R3 is bypassed by critical hits, but it prevents quadqueue!

[keen jasper]

Too late, but thanks still

[swift swan]

Forgor it's monday today

[mellow linden]

Better to keep the habit, at least

[proud axle]

[old orchid]

#1010274591601598555 please

[grand steppe]

I'm not sure what the question is? Is it about the sync move or the Mist Ball?

[cosmic willow]

Mist ball

[old orchid]

It was a flex for me

[keen jasper]

What's the question again?

[crystal notch]

sides could eat 37k hp mistball

[grand steppe]

The side didn't die, so it looks like you gave the opponent a lot of strength or hp.

[crystal notch]

without dying

so

max hp +8 probably or sth

[cosmic willow]

Yeah max hp

[crystal notch]

something like that definitely feels like a flex

[keen jasper]

Definitely

[grand steppe]

If the video is relevant to a question it's fine, as long as the channel isn't busy helping someone.

[manic mica]

Thanks mate those team works and last fight done

[tribal agate]

GG

[manic mica]

I am struggling for the ghost stage i am not getting good damage from mega evolve gangar

[tribal agate]

you should try and use this if you can

+tracker

[frozen depot]

https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/

For newcomers/beginners, check the video below on how to properly showcase your pairs : https://i.imgur.com/A0XcAgZ.mp4

[tribal agate]

then send us your roster

and we can work on that

[manic mica]

One min ghost pairs right

[grand steppe]

Can you tell us what the team is? And what parameters are you using?

[rotund lagoon]

Wait is that Allister? Isn’t he niche or something?

[manic mica]

On type pre sync 2500 points

[tribal agate]

Allister is amazing, but they said Mega Gengar so that's actually Agatha but probably a mistake lol

[rotund lagoon]

OH T~T

[proud axle]

Rather than filtering for Ghost-type pairs, remember that some sync pairs of other types can have strong Ghost Moves. You may wish to filter for Known Move: Type: Ghost instead

[manic mica]

Using those 3

[mellow linden]

Ah, there’s the problem

[tribal agate]

wait you're actually using Agatha

damn that's a first

[proud axle]

...Uh, I think I see some basic teambuild issues here

[tribal agate]

ok yeah that entire team scrap it, we're gonna go back to basics but first share your roster

[mellow linden]

That team has basically no proper support

[proud axle]

If that were Gastly Morty, it might have a leg to stand on

[verbal karma]

Okay, no

[proud axle]

Do you have Selene? Alola Grass Striker? Her ghost-type Spirit Shackle attack synergizes well with Allister

[verbal karma]

Even if I spam Hyperbeam with Alder, there's still too high of a chance that a Hyperbeam misses

[proud axle]

You could pair them with a Speed support and it might work better

[rotund lagoon]

You guys said that Alder needs accuracy Support at 1/5, right?

[mellow linden]

Can just off-type Blue if you don’t wanna keep trying to on-type him

[late grove]

just slap lillie

[rotund lagoon]

I was thinking Lillie too

[proud axle]

You can add Maylene if she's gridded, she gives Acc and Crit and Speed at the same time so Alder can Hyper Beam on turn 3

[manic mica]

Yes i have selena grass type

[late grove]

maylene

[rotund lagoon]

Maylene?? •.•

[tribal agate]

show us your available supports now please

[proud axle]

Excellent. You can try something like Marley (if she is gridded for Team Sharp Entry) + Allister + Selene

[manic mica]

Cs done need help for future 🔮

[tribal agate]

[proud axle]

Have you folks not seen her grid

[manic mica]

Those are my support

[tribal agate]

idt Marley can sustain 2500 tanking tbf plus Allister has free moves so gauge isn't an issue

[manic mica]

Off type using serena greninja

[mellow linden]

I’m gonna be honest, I do not recommend Selene + Allister over alternatives

[proud axle]

Gloves Off becomes Acc+Crit+Speed, it's kind of amazing

[rotund lagoon]

I’m more worried about EX Support

[tribal agate]

yeah EX supports would favor the dps and gmax better

but @manic mica to be clear did you complete the ghost fight?

[proud axle]

Her bulk is quite good for her rarity. IIRC comparable to Skyla

[verbal karma]

But I don't have anyone I could replace with Maylene

[manic mica]

Yes with water team off type serena may & Sycamore help

[proud axle]

Who's the Support?

[manic mica]

I am always struggling with ghost type

[verbal karma]

I have two supports in the team: Skyla and Aaron

[rotund lagoon]

Don’t you have Giovanni?

[mellow linden]

Can try Shauntal + Sp. Atk./crit Support + 3rd teammate

[tribal agate]

right but Skyla has potions which is a more favorable beginner tool and we should be careful imo to consider what the people have as options to make their clears more comfortable rather than frustrating if it can be helped as not everyone has the same level of play (especially when they show clear signs of lack of teambuilding)

[manic mica]

Used in psychic stage

[proud axle]

You could probably drop Aaron for a second attacker honestly

Guzma, if he is 3/5 for No Quarter, is gauge-efficient DPS

Aaron has his uses but I'm not real sure this is one of them

[mellow linden]

If you wanna stick with Alder then grid Aaron for Precision Pals since iirc yours is 3/5

If you wanna ditch Alder then you can try Posion stall, Bugsy + Noland or Lusamine team, or off-typing

[proud axle]

Agatha has a sidekick with Will-o-Wisp. Marley can cure or block it with her TM, so Hex won't hurt. (The other sidekick has Ice Punch and Blizzard but I don't expect Freeze to actually proc)

[manic mica]

Is rosa, agatha and torchic works??

[proud axle]

Get rid of Rosa

[mellow linden]

Is Agatha there because she’s a favorite?

[proud axle]

Or because Agatha vs Agatha is funny?

Mega evo does not mean a mon is powerful

[manic mica]

Nah she is grided i dont have resources now or should i use shauntel

[proud axle]

I think Shauntal&Chandelure are better than Agatha&(Mega)Gengar, these days

[zealous karma]

If shauntals gridded yes

[manic mica]

Alister at 2/5 and those 2 are at 5/5

[mellow linden]

If Agatha’s gridded then Agatha/Sp. Atk. + crit Support/Speed buffer

[zealous karma]

Shauntal is like top 4 ghost striker AniLillie Fantina and Gio being ahead iirc

[bright furnace]

Agatha vs Agatha won't work anyways. the other Agatha has wide awake

[proud axle]

Oof

[manic kiln]

This is an example, obviously lucian is better but burgh can drop sp def too and help with dps. Aaron and skyla is unnecessary. 1 hyperbeam missed btw

[bright furnace]

trust me, i've tried

[proud axle]

So you have the mega tax and not the sync multiplier

That's multi oof action right there

[mellow linden]

Ah, Wide Awake

[proud axle]

[crystal notch]

agatha: do you think you can use my weapon against me

think again

[mellow linden]

Eh, this is a team for future use

[manic mica]

Shauntel with whom should i used

[proud axle]

Do not cite the Hypno magic to me, witch. I was there when it was written.

[mellow linden]

So by the time Ghost weak Agatha rolls back around they’ll likely have gridded someone else

[grand steppe]

Agatha is fine the stage is pretty weak.

[verbal karma]

but I already need Aaron for his Def/Sp. Def buffing

[manic kiln]

You don’t need def buff at all

[mellow linden]

If using Shauntal then a Sp. Atk./crit Support and a 3rd teammate

[manic kiln]

Skyla potions are more than enough

[verbal karma]

well, yeah, but he also has Sp. Def buffs

and THAT is what I need

[proud axle]

I win a lot of fights without Def/Spdef buffs

[mellow linden]

Your Aaron is 3/5, correct?

[grand steppe]

I just did an Agatha + Shauntal duo without Support Ex, Ghost Zone, or Rebuffs.
#1011736960701829191 message

[verbal karma]

I think my Aaron is even 5/5?

[manic kiln]

But not ex so stick to skyla

[verbal karma]

yeah, Skyla is the EX, not Aaron

[mellow linden]

Then grid him for Precision Pals since you said yourself that the issue is Hyper Beam’s accuracy

[proud axle]

Aaron is just a glorified Misty if you don't use Precision Pals

And... Like, I mean that in the worst way possible because Misty can buff SpDef faster than him

[tribal agate]

uh?

[mellow linden]

Aaron also provides crit buffs, tbf

Regardless, the issue they said the team has is easily solvable with a grid adjustment, so might as well try that 1st

[tribal agate]

crit + atk on TM yeah on top of self regen, aoe heal and some other tools like pmun if gridded

[mellow linden]

I think they mean specifically on Trin’s team of Aaron/Alder/Skyla

[proud axle]

How many of these are useful to Alder

Misty can give regen too.

[tribal agate]

i'm fairly certain i told Trin not to use Aaron with Alder like 40 mins ago what happened

[proud axle]

He is still insisting because he is lustful for SpDef

And that brings us to... Dude, use Misty

[tribal agate]

https://i.imgur.com/tu9kjuU.png

trin if you ain't gonna listen to advices, there's little we can do here

i hope you understand

[toxic cobalt]

Lets 1) not diss Misty 2) stick to one team that definitely works

[mellow linden]

Eh, it’s Round 5 and it’s not like he’s a terrible choice, let’s see what happens since they said the issue is Hyper Beam accuracy

[verbal karma]

I...completely missed this post, though

how can I listen to advice I didn't even see?

[tribal agate]

well i wasn't the only one if that matters

[proud axle]

I also said you can drop him for a second attacker, or for even Maylene

(because I didn't know yours could grid for Acc)

[verbal karma]

...Maylene doesn't buff Sp. Def either?

[proud axle]

Who cares, you can win without it

[verbal karma]

can I, though?????

[grand steppe]

Aaron with Alder isn't too bad, thanks to Precision Pals and providing Alder crit. Just the gauges might be a sluggish with Aaron using Defense Order post-sync. Depends on the 3rd unit.

[proud axle]

I do all the time.

[verbal karma]

3rd unit is Skyla

[mellow linden]

You have Lodge Elesa, perchance

[verbal karma]

I...actually do!

[mellow linden]

She’s probably better than Aaron, then

Means Alder doesn’t have to worry about crit or accuracy since he’s got max crit by turn 2 and some accuracy buffs, and provides Sp. Def.

[verbal karma]

alright, if my current attempt fails, I will switch Aaron for Elesa

[tribal agate]

With all due respect Trin for future notice, Lost has taken the time to share with you and post a viable clear using Alder with pairs you own to which you arrogantly replied that it is not what you need. We are here to help people clear a stage, not with specific conditions set by the user, because there are also other people that might need help. If you keep this up, i will have to involve myself as a mod. You have been given a lot of viable information, it is common courtesy to try and respect those as well.

[mellow linden]

Unless you’re already mid-attempt then why wait?

[verbal karma]

^

I am mid-attempt

[mellow linden]

Ok

[verbal karma]

alright, done!

[verbal karma]

wdym "involve yourself as a mod"

what kind of rules am I breaking, huh?!

[tribal agate]

Fairly certain you're in the range of rule 1, all i ask is that you respect the time our helpers give you.

[verbal karma]

I mean...I'd like to think I decline Lost's suggestion in a respectful way, but if there's a way I can decline a suggestion more respectfully, then I am all ears

[daring osprey]

Agatha and Lance do not work well with presync ontype I even tried ss red and he did nothing round 3 is tuff

[proud axle]

SSRed isn't ontype for either of those, is he?

[toxic cobalt]

Agatha: Giovanni
Lance: Slowgaleo

[tribal agate]

In the future, record your gameplay or post footage screenshots of what happens wrong instead of dragging on conversations for hours claiming "this doesn't work this is wrong" when trying to counter argue what helpers are trying to advise you. Being stuck an hour on Hyper Beam accuracy or gauge issue is just a recipe for headache, there are more ways than one to clear a stage, but it can't work if all you do is not share footage or roster and just try to argue what's best and what's not with people who know better. As a common saying, beggars can't be choosers.

If you want to debate team efficiency, you can use #916852389347196958

[daring osprey]

No but since I am completely debuffing all of their defenses you think they would take a lot of damage but it seems they have a health of a gif for my teams I have palmarnie solgaleo and Jasmine and ss Cynthia ss korrina and morty bps for support but they just die

[toxic cobalt]

What do you mean they just die? What do they die to?

[fringe bobcat]

Can you show what parameters you're using

[daring osprey]

It’s pre sync on type

[swift swan]

Ontype?

SS Red?

[fringe bobcat]

I have the feeling you have physical reduction on for your physical sync pairs

[daring osprey]

No with my original steel and ghost teams

[swift swan]

Ah alr

[swift swan]

Maybe check this

[daring osprey]

Even ss red also can’t do anything to them

[swift swan]

Well offtyping at 2.5k is slightly harder now so gotta keep that in mind

[toxic cobalt]

SSR can, there's something else going on

Can you please let us know what they are dying to

[daring osprey]

Oh I do have it on

[crystal notch]

...sigh

[swift swan]

Welp

[zealous karma]

Do you also have standard dr?

[swift swan]

Just pay attention to this when you're using SS Red

[daring osprey]

Mostly because Lance does survive the sync and kills my steel team over time

[swift swan]

Your previous params might carry over

[toxic cobalt]

What do you mean the sync? You're tyring to win with your first sync?

[fringe bobcat]

If your on type teams, it should work using the special instead of physical reduction

If using red then you need to change the parameters as you're no longer on type

[crystal notch]

that important text

isn't read enough times

[daring osprey]

Okay so I did defeat Lance but Agatha I am struggling with

[toxic cobalt]

What is your Agatha team?

[swift swan]

Says a lot about society

[daring osprey]

Ss korrina ren Cynthia and bP mismorty

[zealous karma]

Why BPMorty

[fringe bobcat]

If you're using shadow ball, use shadow force instead, a better supp could also help a bit

[swift swan]

Though ss korrina and renegade cynthia should destroy the stage?

[daring osprey]

I am trying to do full ontype

[daring osprey]

Both are at 1-5

[swift swan]

Again, check damage reduction shields first and foremost just in case

Remember ssr cynthia has both physical and special damage

[zealous karma]

That doesn’t change much

[fringe bobcat]

It shouldn't be too much issue, but you might need to deny left side in order to sync well

[swift swan]

Still good

[daring osprey]

Okay so I can do it it’s just that I can’t do a full ontype because the ghosts supports are wack

[sinful garden]

if they arent dealing damage, the unit's type is irrelevant

[zealous karma]

[sinful garden]

as long as your dmg dealer is ontype you can use whatever type for utility

[daring osprey]

But I am very close to having a full ontype

[sinful garden]

oh if you are doing a challenge thats another thing

[zealous karma]

You mean mono type

[crystal notch]

if you wish to impose a challenge on yourself...

well, maybe that can be done later, after you finish this run

[zealous karma]

My favorite

[daring osprey]

All righty I’ll just slap on a actual good tank dman you old hag I will have my revenge

[manic kiln]

More mono type players

[daring osprey]

Yes I am trying to full mono CS but I guess not this week

[fringe bobcat]

@daring osprey you should be able to do it

[daring osprey]

right after I finish too

[grand steppe]

🎵 🔊

[onyx ice]

Since 2.5k released i'm constantly playing with maximum sync countdown parameters

[crystal notch]

Had to poison stall agatha

Because giovanni wasn't doing good damage

And afterwards I realized that I may have accidentally used his psychic grid instead

[zealous karma]

That’s a first

I usually never change my Gio grid and jt works out regardless

[crystal notch]

No ex, no PB

Ehhh

[noble plaza]

I'm not exactly sure how to go about the Grass Champion Stadium. I don't know what params would be best and I need to make use of multiple grass sync pairs

[crystal notch]

Offtyping could work

And poison stall teams exist

[onyx ice]

There isn't much difference between psychic and shadow ball build, just the on a roll

[devout sluice]

I mostly had to poison stall due to low grass units.

[crystal notch]

Maybe just unlucky then

[zealous karma]

You didn’t 20/20 your Gio?

Wrong reply

[noble plaza]

These are all my sync units plus just my grass ones

[noble plaza]

fair haha

[zealous karma]

You didn’t 20/20 your Gio?

[noble plaza]

I was thinking that a Sun Team with Silver could work for one of the battles.

[crystal notch]

I did, but PB and EX are separate things right from 20/20

[onyx ice]

Yes

[noble plaza]

I don't know if I have enough units to sufficiently poison stall more than 2

[crystal notch]

Zinnia PB and EX are separate from 20/20, at least

[zealous karma]

The stats gained from Ex are the same the only thing that changes with ex is your syncs effect, PB only gave him mega which isn’t relevant if you sync with a support ex first

[crystal notch]

Noted

Hmm

Ehhh too late to trouble shoot

[devout sluice]

You didn’t do victory road to grab SS Leaf?

[zealous karma]

We usually recommend to grab SSB from VR

[noble plaza]

me?

I went with SS Blue

[devout sluice]

Oh

[onyx ice]

I think PB matters if you are nuking with Giovanni since i think 1st sync still uses mega stats

But not 100% sure

For ghost weak the PB is pretty pointless

[noble plaza]

(Also what's PB? Glossary didn't help 😅 )

[onyx ice]

Power boost

[noble plaza]

ohhh ok

[crystal notch]

worst case scenario

grab bp erika

poison stall three rounds

solo one round with sycamore

and then do one round with silver and friends under sunlight

[noble plaza]

i kinda forgot soloing was an option haha

what params do i go for?

[crystal notch]

poison stall is poison stall

sycamore is on type post sync

[noble plaza]

oh right

[crystal notch]

silver sunlight needs some tweaking

depending on your team probably

I used pre sync on type

but you might need to post sync if things go wrong

also don't R4 bertha

just don't

to R4 bertha with almost no grass type pairs is stupidity

[crystal notch]

honestly though

you can probably run a team around ss erika

she's nuts, apparently (I don't have her, cry)

so just two poison teams would do

[zealous karma]

I off typed this with Cyrus pbless and Winona rosa

I hate standard dr

[grand steppe]

lot's of strength?

[crystal notch]

hmm, maybe? but I doubt it, it was pre sync on type

[zealous karma]

Can the video send thanks in advance

[noble plaza]

Starting with Lorelei. Who should tank? The last time I did poison stall was with Aaron as the tank and that was because I needed the type medal

[crystal notch]

not troubleshooting it

[noble plaza]

Idk if i want to use Blue too early

[crystal notch]

it's done and dusted

[zealous karma]

That’s all@I do

[crystal notch]

mind sending your supports?

[zealous karma]

(Agatha lived on 2 HP because I love standard damage reduction)

[crystal notch]

I did sycamore solo on lorelei R4 though honestly

[noble plaza]

oh okay

here ya go

[zealous karma]

I optimize the tiniest things if a battle doesn’t start with TM MPR I reset

[crystal notch]

poison stall where enemy lives on 50 hp
but sdr 8 causes you to deal 2 and 7 dmh and the enemy gets the sync off

[noble plaza]

who did you R1?

[zealous karma]

I hate stalling haven’t done it in over a year

Idk how to stall

[crystal notch]

I R1'd bruno

[noble plaza]

gotcha

[zealous karma]

These weeks params don’t matter in the grand scheme of things

Outside of debuff are more effective dependi on the team

But it benefits you more than them

[crystal notch]

We are talking about pasio Cs tho

With its dreaded r4

[zealous karma]

Oh pasio CS

Idr what round 4 was I used Victor kr smth

[crystal notch]

Honestly am I qualified to give tips

[zealous karma]

Anyone is it just depends on how you’re relaying and formatting and making sure your concise so it’s easy to understand just in case

And game knowledge as well

[grand steppe]

I'm gonna use Tate to clear Psychic weak.

[zealous karma]

I used him@with SSLyra and bianca that was a doozy

[crystal notch]

You can honestly R1 stall Bruno with Aaron + poison stall

The question here is that

Who are we using SS Erika on

Bertha is tough though

So maybe Bertha?...

We can poison stall CSerena

Bertha just sucks to poison stall

Since you need to bring a sun setter to clear weather

[noble plaza]

should i use the silver team on her?

[crystal notch]

A possibility yeah

But I dunno if silver's firepower is enough

[noble plaza]

I also have Ingo and Cynthia if I want to use that against her haha

[crystal notch]

I'm not familiar enough with ss erika's multipliers though...

[paper summit]

sun and speed

it's as free as it gets

[crystal notch]

Yeah then ss erika and silver is interchangeable

For bertha

Also grimsley crits might suck

But eh your mons would live

The bastard has aoe snarl

Side note but if you can't clear 2.5k poison then there's something wrong because 2.5k poison stall is the same as 0 points poison stall

[noble plaza]

i nearly completed 1.5k poison stall but seviper managed to get knocked out

[crystal notch]

No seriously

2.5k poison stall

And 1.5k poison stall

Is the same thing

Poison scales with hp in percentages

[void wyvern]

It really is the same.

[crystal notch]

You're just missing out on free points

Also yay someone more knowledgeable about grass teambuilding

[crystal notch]

I'll leave this to you

Need to go back to do work

[onyx ice]

There are enough points to reach 2500 for free

For poison stall

[crystal notch]

can you send a video? also set it back to 2.5k btw

[onyx ice]

I think there are exactly 2500 points without having to give the opponents an advantage in poison stall

(ignoring stuffs like strikers take 3x damage that is free if no strikers are involved)

[junior crown]

yes, in the pins is the parameters for that

Did my 12.5k poison stall for the new CS

don't recomend to do it on Lorelei, but it's doable

[crystal notch]

Yeah I recommended a sycamore solo for lorelei

Lorelei having sync cure right

[junior crown]

yes

Sycamore will need impervious and a def buffer if you want to use him on her

She may hit hard with that liquidation if you are 0 or even -6 def

[crystal notch]

To be fair

This person also has ss erika

So...

[junior crown]

You can do it with Hau as a Eletric Sync nuker (that's how I used to do long time ago)

[crystal notch]

Lorelei ss erika nuke

Pasio Cs btw

Not my clear

[junior crown]

oh, ok

then you can do Lorelei poison stall on Pasio CS, she is weaker then the normal CS this week

[noble plaza]

oh ok!

[junior crown]

and yes, Sycamore solo her on Pasio CS (would be good to put at least an eggmon to raise crit +3 if you have PB, or any other crit buffer helps)

[noble plaza]

Sorry I just jumped in, I had to get to class

[crystal notch]

this is the person I was helping

I'll have to hand the person over to you azriel

need to do irl work

[noble plaza]

hello haha

[noble plaza]

thanks for the help!

[junior crown]

Ok Nyla

Do you already have any plans for the Pasio CS?

[noble plaza]

The normal one or the event one?

[junior crown]

This is all your pairs

[noble plaza]

oh the event one.

yep, those are my pairs

I don't quite have a plan to be honest 😅

[junior crown]

well, which one do you need help?

[noble plaza]

I mean, currently I'm planning on doing Bertha on any round before R4 and I'm starting on Bruno. I'm probably going to poison stall him. I tried to but he ended up KOing Lucy

im also planning on using Silver on a Sun Team on one of these rounds

[junior crown]

Does Lucy has the lucky Skill Vigilance?

[noble plaza]

I don't think so

[junior crown]

What are your pairs builded (grid/lucky skills)?

And how many could you build

just to see the base you have for now

[noble plaza]

Xerneas: Gridded w/ Vigilance

Cynthia, Zinnia, Ingo, Giovanni, Oak, Skyla, Hop, Nessa, Brandon, SS Erika, Rosa, Lyra are gridded as much as possible

[junior crown]

Cyrus grided?

[noble plaza]

yes

sorry i really didn't want to check and list every single pair haha

[junior crown]

You can try to do 5 ontype (Brendan, SS Erika, Mallow, Dawn and Sycamore)

and have backup plans if needed

like poison stall or offtype (Cyrus should be able to offtype)

Since you don't have Dawn nor Mallow gridded let's put them away for now

[noble plaza]

oh i have Dawn gridded

sorry I forgot to check her

Normal Erika is also gridded as much as she could be with 1/5

[junior crown]

Uhm, let's see, I liked to do Poison Stall on Cerena and R2 are made for it

So let's plan R1, R3 and R4 with those

[noble plaza]

ok!

[junior crown]

Brendan for sure R3

R4 you can do Lorelei with Sycamore

So R1 will be SS Erika

[noble plaza]

ok! with who?

and against who?

[junior crown]

Bruno - SS Erika Silver SSB/Roxanne
Grimsley - Dawn Koga Mina
Bertha - Skyla Brendan Blaine
Lorelei - Sycamore Hop Ghetsis
Cerena - Sonia Lucy Janine

Maybe like this...

I Believe SSB and Sonia have Vigilance and Sonia is gridded?

[noble plaza]

Sonia and Blue are gridded!

[junior crown]

Ok so let's try like this in this order

[north crown]

doesn't cerena lean towards using special moves? could probably slot in sycamore here.

[junior crown]

the best would be a def+spdef, but the best for that would be Aaron in their roster

And sycamore is being used on Lorelei

Since the parameters is good for the poison stall and we are debuffing with janine it should work

[hidden ore]

We’re talking abt Lodge Syca?

[north crown]

wow there's no other existing team synergy for Sonia...

[hidden ore]

If so, he needs EX for Cerena

[north crown]

nah og

that lorelei team is super stacked compared to the rest of the teams

tf why haven't you guys considered mallow?

[junior crown]

if you read the whole conversation is based on the pairs he have gridded with lucky skills

that's why mallow was droped

[north crown]

could probably do sonia, mallow, sleep/flinch pair

[junior crown]

but if you want, you can check if they still need help

[north crown]

oh wow

ok.. that's kinda annoying

could try ingo zinnia filler

other than that, the only other options is to just keep spamming poison stall teams

oh wait I forgot to mention rain dps team as they have may.

[noble plaza]

just got out of class so I didn't have a chance to look at this. how many points should I go for for the non-poison stall aprts?

[proud axle]

Depends how strong you are against that weakness

This week has... Electric, Psychic, Ghost, Steel, and Bug.
A lot of folks have poor options for Bug, so if you're in that boat, you might use fewer points against that fight

Psychic is likely very doable since Gio/Mewtwo is free. Ghost might not be so bad, since Shauntal isn't that rare

[mellow linden]

850 per stage is a good starting point if you’re new to Master Mode since there’s no difficulty increase compared to Hard Mode if you’re on-typing and that’ll also net you all the most important rewards.

If you want a little more challenge you can give 1500 per stage a shot and see how it goes

[noble plaza]

oh I'm doing the Grass CS right now btw

[proud axle]

That changes a lot

It depends on the roster again, and whether you can do a Toxic Stall or two. And how many strong Grass attackers remain outside of that

[noble plaza]

azriel suggested some pairs to use for each battle

OKAY I MADE IT THROUGH BRUNO WITH 850 POINTS

[noble plaza]

I'm willing to grid Mallow fwiw!

I have some orbs

if you have a suggestion for what sync grid to go for or what team to put her on i'm happy to hear it

[tired sleet]

Mallow’s Grid depends on whether or not you’re bringing a sun bringer

[noble plaza]

yeah thats why i asked

i already used SS Erika in Round 1

[tired sleet]

So is that a no?

[cinder summit]

Mallow & Tsareena

‎ Type: ‎　‎　Weak:

Level 140 Stats:

HP: 673
ATK: 356 | DEF: 199
SPA: 222 | SPD: 199
SPE: 228

Acquisition:

General Pool
Ticket Scout
Ticket Scout (Alola)

Alternates:

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Sun Power Whip (3/5)
‎　+ Solar Flare
Sun Sync Nuke (3/5)
Power Whip / Sync Nuke (3/5)
Trop Kick Utility / Sync Nuke (3/5)

Lucky Skill: Critical Strike 2, Weathered Warrior 3

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[noble plaza]

not necessarily, I have other sun bringers

[tired sleet]

Lemme make a grid

[noble plaza]

I have Blaine

[noble plaza]

Im using this as a reference for what I should do for each round

[tired sleet]

Are you thinking of mallow for the Cerena round?

[noble plaza]

I was waiting for someone to suggest a round to use her on ahha

[tired sleet]

You’d probably want to use her vs grimsley, bruno, or bertha, since they use physical moves, so mallow’s attack drops would be useful

Also I’d recommend using the SS Erika/Silver team for Bertha instead, since Bruno doesn’t really need that much power

[noble plaza]

....it's kinda too late for that, i already beat bruno

[tired sleet]

If your mallow is 3/5 this is kinda the base of what I like. Bring a sun setter and attack buffer with +1 crit

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/12400/76300?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggKDA8lKSorLS4

[tired sleet]

That’s alright, it should still be fine

[noble plaza]

no I already used the team on Bruno

[tired sleet]

That’s what i meant sorry, the bertha team should still work

[noble plaza]

oh ok

[tired sleet]

Have you beat grimsley yet? The stall team should probably work (might be slightly low on healing), but mallow would be best suited there

[noble plaza]

Im working on Grimsley right now and I have Mina, Dawn, and Koga. Should I continue with it and save Mallow for later or?

oh okay lmao

[tired sleet]

If you have a different bad poison setter I’d recommend them over koga (bp erika or bp janine for example)

[noble plaza]

I don't have either of them but I have a ticket

[tired sleet]

How many of the bp pairs do you have? They’re good, but not top priorities

+3and4stars has the prio

[frozen depot]

List below shows general usefulness of 3 & 4 star pairs.
Some pairs are harder to unlock than others and usually most require to be gridded.
There is no specific order within the tiers!
For more details, feel free to ask people in #poma-questions !

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855438548684374045/1095924582969516072/j8ukyHGvL6DFgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg.png

[tired sleet]

If you’ve already gotten Surge, Clemont, and Morty and don’t struggle with Electric Weak stages (Sophocles), BP Janine is one of the best choices

[noble plaza]

I only got BP Lt. Surge

[tired sleet]

No worries then; Koga is still solid

[noble plaza]

alrighty

[tired sleet]

You may want to choose a support with potion or synchro healing and def buffs instead of dawn though, she doesn’t have a ton of healing

[noble plaza]

yeah i could tell LMAO

so im replacing Mina w/ Mallow?

[tired sleet]

I was thinking of replacing dawn, but mina works too, and would mean that the healer wouldn’t even need def buffs

[noble plaza]

(aww thats a cute Ingo emote)

oh i just assumed that Mina was bad haha

oh she ranked higher than I expected

[tired sleet]

Mina’s just here to drop their attack

[noble plaza]

yeah i noticed

so am I putting sun on this team?

[tired sleet]

The stall team? Or the mallow team?

[noble plaza]

The Grimsley team

[tired sleet]

Oops i did not comprehend this

You don’t need sun on this team

[noble plaza]

alrighty

[tired sleet]

But take a different mallow grid; you want stop hitting yourself 5 (increases the chance for enemies to hit themselves in Confusion) and overwhelm 9 (drops attack)

[noble plaza]

for a second I thought you said "you want to stop hitting yourself" haha

so we have Koga + Mallow for Grimsley

[tired sleet]

This game has some really funny passive names

[tired sleet]

Yup

[noble plaza]

yeah LMAO

who would our third pair be?

[tired sleet]

Can you show an image of your supports with the “Defence Up” filter?

[noble plaza]

SS Blue is out of the picture because I used him for Bruno

[tired sleet]

You’re planning on using skyla, sonia, and hop elsewhere, right?

[noble plaza]

yeahh thats the thing 😅

[junior crown]

Can save hop if you want

[tired sleet]

Then i’d use lana or leaf as the third

[junior crown]

that team was overkill

[tired sleet]

They can replace Hop with BP Surge or Aaron on the Sycamore team

[junior crown]

Better only BP surge

[noble plaza]

ah, alright

[junior crown]

The thing that matters is if Hop have vigilance

With Dawn it was not an issue

[noble plaza]

I put Vigilance on Hop an hour ago haha

[junior crown]

Oh ok

I need to go to sleep, but Winston can help review the teams

[noble plaza]

goodnight! thanks for all your help!

do I take the Poison Stall params? @tired sleet

[tired sleet]

Yup

Assuming its the hop/mallow/koga team

Side note; are you doing 2k or 2.5k?

[noble plaza]

Oh I thought you told me to replace Dawn?

[tired sleet]

Oops sorry

I meant mallow

[noble plaza]

oh okay

And if it's poison stall I'm gonna try 2.5k. If it's not, then...I'll go 850 I guess because this is my first time with these params

[tired sleet]

Poison Stall doesn’t have much of a difficulty difference from 0 to 2.5k thankfully

[noble plaza]

yeah thats why i specified poison stall haha

HELL YEAH! IT WORKED!

[noble plaza]

What params should I go for with Bertha? I didn't have a good time at 1500 points but 850 points has no status conditions and I would like to burn her pokemon

....honestly maybe mallow would've been the better choice for this one

[tired sleet]

With the 850 pts you can just swap no status for no interference

But neither are needed, even if you’re using blaine. Burn is an incredibly weak status in this game

[mellow linden]

What team are you planning to use?

[noble plaza]

the Bertha team

[noble plaza]

ooooof

[mellow linden]

Alright. In that case if you wanna be able to Burn you can replace No Status Conditions with Interference Immunity for no difficulty increase or Attack + Sp. Atk. ^ 1/Defense + Sp. Def. ^ 1 for a minor difficulty increase

[noble plaza]

would it be better to try to confuse the opponents instead?

maybe with Winona?

...i really should've waited to use Winona lmao

[tired sleet]

Confusion is also not significant on the middle unless you have stop hitting yourself

Winona is mainly used for rain/flinch, not confuse

[noble plaza]

ah okay. the battle tips emphasized confusion so i was just wondering

Skyla is the tankr ight?

everytime i knock out hippowdon the other two earthquake me to death

[tired sleet]

Yeah

[tired sleet]

Hmm, you may want to take out the left side first using your first sync move. If you time it right, you’ll take it out after it queues a move but before it uses the move, so you’ll pretty much get a free quad queue in while taking out a side

[noble plaza]

the sync move doesn't take it out

[fringe bobcat]

sorry, what's your team

[noble plaza]

Blaine, Skyla, BRendan

[fringe bobcat]

I assume you don't have SS Erika

is Brendan ex?

[tired sleet]

They used her already unfortunately

[fringe bobcat]

I see

[noble plaza]

oh shit i actually managed to beat it!!!

[fringe bobcat]

grats

[noble plaza]

fuck yeah!!!

alright, now for lorelei

The plan was to use Sycamore+Ghetsis+Hop but we already used Hop

[fringe bobcat]

which rounds is it

[noble plaza]

r4

wait i think azriel mentioned using bp surge instead

[toxic cobalt]

If you have Sycamore you could go for a higher Hp Hau post sync

[noble plaza]

wdym by higher hp hau?

[fringe bobcat]

do you have anything planned for Serena yet?

[noble plaza]

poison stall

[fringe bobcat]

would be better to poison stall this one I feel

[noble plaza]

Sonia Lucy Janine

[fringe bobcat]

sonia feels a bit weird against serena since she's special

not saying it won't work, but could maybe choose someone better there

[noble plaza]

here are my support pairs

[noble plaza]

and my entire roster

[fringe bobcat]

give me one min, let me try something

[noble plaza]

sure take your time

[fringe bobcat]

how many points are you doing?

[noble plaza]

850 for non-poison stall

[fringe bobcat]

have you used Leon, SS Elesa or SS Lysandre?

[weak sleet]

Can 1/5 Gloria on type steel lance?

Or is someone better to use?

[mellow linden]

Should be fine as long as the team is well put-together

[weak sleet]

What should I run with her?

[mellow linden]

Attack/crit Support and someone to help with gauge management are ideal

If you have Palentine’s Marnie then she’d be a great teammate as well

[weak sleet]

I don't have that Marnie unfortunately, but something like hop or maybe champion Bede?

[mellow linden]

Hop works as long as you can ensure good gauge management

[weak sleet]

Like this?

[mellow linden]

As long as you don’t need to use SS Blue elsewhere that’s fine. Even means you don’t need Hop’s MP Refresh to max Gloria’s offenses since SS Blue’s Trainer Move can fill the missing +1 crit

[weak sleet]

The only other time I use ss blue is with the rats, which I'm using for Lorelei. But I'm sure I can easily replace him with another support since those rats are so strong right?

[mellow linden]

Yeah

[weak sleet]

Other opponents I think will be super easy since I have Genesect, Necrozma, lunala, and giratina.

[north crown]

wouldn't Solgaleo preform better than 1/5 Gloria?

[noble plaza]

nope

sorry i was working on some homework

[fringe bobcat]

no worries, I removed the grid from my units so you might be able to replicate it

[noble plaza]

wait seriously?
Thank you for going the extra mile to help me!!

wait....none of those sync pairs are EX'd for me

[fringe bobcat]

try it around, I think you should be able still

ex doesn't affect much

that's why I didn't sync with supp ex

[noble plaza]

alrighty

[noble plaza]

okay it took me a few tries but i managed to get it because Lapras' sync move didn't KO any of my pokemon somehow. And then I was able to ko Lapras and Amaura, but then Walrein used Icy Wind...

AND VOLCANION.
FUCKING DODGED IT.

[toxic cobalt]

Gamer moment

[noble plaza]

SO HE WAS ABLE TO FINISH THE WALREIN OFF.

[zinc island]

Another electric stage another ash solo, at 2500 this time any difference? Couldn't notice.

[noble plaza]

LITERALLY

THAT WAS COMPLETE BULLSHIT BUT I'LL TAKE IT.

@fringe bobcat thank you so much for the help. i still cannot believe that just happened.

[fringe bobcat]

no problem

[north crown]

wow rngesus has blessed them

or perhaps dena?

[north crown]

the thing is that the updated, extra restraints outweigh the added 500 points, so that makes sense.

sczinnia was able to do 5k points solo too

other than ignorant people, there doesn't seem to be many that are particularly struggling in CS

[noble plaza]

oof

[north crown]

I don't want to say this due to this being offtopic, but I fear that EoS is coming

[toxic cobalt]

Not really the place for such commentary Nitsua

[tired sleet]

||Grats on becoming an ace trainer! You may want to go to #plaza-reaction-toggle to get the Role Specialist role||

[north crown]

the actual

[north crown]

less activity in the community = less hype = less sales yada yada

k I'll stop. There'll probably be at least one more surge of players at anni or something

[noble plaza]

oh shit—

already??? that's awesome!!!

(also I just beat Cerena with Sycamore+Lucy+Janine )

[north crown]

speaking of, I've never seen anyone mention that someone is a ace trainer in a public channel. dafaq is that about?

[grave wyvern]

Please keep the discussion here focused on CS

Aurochs already mentioned that to you

[wicked pebble]

Where's best to use SS Leaf or Lodge Sycamore?

Going agressive but wanting to take advantage of the poison as best as I can

[worn tusk]

could i off type round 3 agatha with Ss wally?

[toxic cobalt]

Probably but why not just use Giovanni?

[worn tusk]

cause i already used him for bruno

[toxic cobalt]

Makes sense!

[grand trout]

Omg fuck lorelei and sync cure

I had to resort beating sides first

[trail smelt]

Guessing Alola CS is very likely haha

[main crow]

https://tenor.com/view/friday-short-scream-excited-moistcritical-gif-18689575

[full mesa]

Chill week. Nice weaknesses.

[devout sluice]

I believe I can preset them now I think.

[swift swan]

Alola

[old orchid]

Alola nov

[keen jasper]

Fucking hell man, trying to do my F2P clear and Helena isn't critting her sync twice

[swift swan]

[full mesa]

Skill issues.

[swift swan]

luck issue

reminds me of the time fantina failed to crit four times in a row

[trail smelt]

Alola was the hardest of the early 4 batch right?

[old orchid]

yeah

prior to Sinnoh

[swift swan]

was it really?

[trail smelt]

I remember Hau discharge spam being annoying LMAO

[swift swan]

I felt Unova was harder

at least when I first started

[trail smelt]

Iirc it was Alola > Unova > Johto > Kanto

[devout sluice]

Unova and Alola actually felt easy for me in my opinion, only hard one was Sinnoh.

[keen jasper]

They're talking about before Sinnoh

[devout sluice]

Oh.

[full mesa]

Please. Let's not talk about Sinnoh. The horror...

[swift swan]

now with Mina EX and fairy zone, at the very least Fairy-weak Cynthia will be much easier

[dark osprey]

wished SS Mina would somehow be the best support to regular Mina. guess fairy zone is more than enough

[keen jasper]

Am I the only one who's utilizing Viola as a F2P bug damage dealer?

[full mesa]

Damage dealer, probably yes.

[manic kiln]

@tribal agate pin pls, and unpin the pasio CS

[old orchid]

save screenshots like this in #1010274591601598555 please

[tribal agate]

sec

[grand trout]

Acerola is the annoying one right

[swift swan]

I nuked with her this week, but the teammates aren't f2p friendly in the slightest lmao

[swift swan]

not always

[keen jasper]

She pretty much needs KriSS

[swift swan]

#1011173305702690876 message I did this much

[sly imp]

are the stats and passives for next CS released already? Hoping for rock-weak kahili to be easy

[full mesa]

They are already there. Check PoMa tools

Alola is medium in terms of difficulty. You'll need some strategy but it isn't impossible

[dusty yarrow]

just be prepared with some shenanigans... like:

you got a lot of ways to prepare for this (Idk if its in the pins... or it was left out on the old CS Chat)

Same thing goes to Bug Weak Hau

The rest is just a breeze if prepared

[swift swan]

it's really not that hard aside from a few stages

I never really made write-ups on older CS regions

[sly imp]

oh wait, alola is old already?

I dont remember fighting it

[dusty yarrow]

yup

but I still remember when it debut, Bug Weak Hau created a bit of chaos XD

[main crow]

Sonia/Grant/SS Brock goes dummy funny for rock stages

Oops! All Flinches

[dusty yarrow]

I think by now (just like Aaron Electric Weak) people will just find them easy compare when people fought it during their debuts

[sly imp]

status condition nullification should be good against those go viral 9 no? I dont have a decent rock dps yet so I need to prepare for a bit for it i think

[main crow]

Do you have these guys?

[dusty yarrow]

although this time its 2.5k (its probably minimal in effect) I still can't feel the difficulty increase in Kanto

[sly imp]

I have but only sonia built

my only dps for rock is olivia, but no ex

[main crow]

If you have enough orbs I personally recommend grabbing their rock slide aggravation node

And then watch as everything goes down to flinching

[sly imp]

I'll try them then

[main crow]

I've tried 2k Kalos with that team, if they can beat Kalos then older CS stages should be a cakewalk

[old orchid]

your forgot Roark

he is really good

[sly imp]

I havent built roark as well

[old orchid]

its worth building him

[sly imp]

Aight then, I'll put him in the list as well Thanks a lott

[dusty yarrow]

Meanwhile... here's how wacky my solution against that particular Salamence XD
GROUP THERAPY BROCK

I am really such an derp

[sly imp]

who's the dps there? CIris?

[dusty yarrow]

Yup

[sly imp]

Ohhhhhhhhhh

[dusty yarrow]

Let me retry this wacky team in this 2.5k (Let see if it still works)

I do also remember a Marley team but I can't find any SS of it

[dark osprey]

Leaf has friend mend too if needed i.e.

counting on 2 MPRs on Ciris' TM does take some trying

[swift swan]

My solution was to grid my Redlax with antitoxin

Or just deny it with sleep/flinch. It's not too bad

[devout sluice]

Time to get my team prepared for next week.

[keen silo]

~~meanwhile I haven't done it yet, most of them being done on weekends because I've had other interests recently ~~

[spring fable]

how hard will alola be compared to our current regions T^T

[swift swan]

Easy

Well, our current region is Kanto, so Alola is slightly harder

But you've been through the hell bringers Sinnoh, Hoenn, and Kalos

You'll be fine

[crystal notch]

I'm excited for a new ride to Alola

Kahili looks like a fun puzzle to solve

[manic kiln]

don't worry sinnoh will be back in June alola is still pretty chill

[swift swan]

Pls I can't wait to take revenge on Cynthia

[manic kiln]

if june is not sinnoh then they will introduce a new region in the next few months

[swift swan]

One stage of hers gave me hell in all her runs

[halcyon sail]

Wait when was the last time Alola cs ran?

[main crow]

Last year

[swift swan]

A looong time ago

July according to pomatools

They've just been adding new CS regions, and I think Alola should've been this month, but they went back to Kanto for 12.5k

[devout sluice]

I been through 10k Alola before so I may get 12.5k on Alola CS I think.

[swift swan]

12.5k in general isn't too hard compared to 10k

[devout sluice]

Ya exactly.

[junior crown]

specially for poison stall, I need to test it on that Hau bug weak, I remember it was hard back in the day

let's see if poison stalls beats Alola CS

[wide adder]

POV: you forgot to turn off 3x tech damage

[wide adder]

This went better than I expected for 1/5 alder. Esp since blue synced

[sand karma]

SsBrendan makes Fantina sooooo much better damn

This alone is making pitying him worth it

[dull yarrow]

I LOVE BEING able to save Champion Stadium presets now

[versed jetty]

Hello there!

How can I beat the Master Mode of Champion Stadium with the least amount of 6 EX?
The successful teams basically offer NOTHING but 6 EX and I don't have that many.

[crystal notch]

Going to something like #1011675077764456519

Clearly showcases that you don't need that many

But ofc, people here can help with your specific roster

[junior crown]

You don't need EX to do MM (Master Mode)

if helps, but there are a lot of people that did it 12.5k without any

even if you can't do 12.5k the "best" rewards is until 7.5k and 4.2k is the "minimum" if you are strugling for more points

You can post your roster here and the people can help you with what you have to make the teams to beat it

For me poison stall is the lest costly way to do it, because poison stall works in 95% of the cases (5% are for like Lorelei this week, don't recomend to do it), so it works every week and for poison stall 0 points is almost the same dificulty as 2500 points

So for new player you can do 2/3 ontypes and 3/2 poison stall for example

and get to 7.5k+ easier that way too

[versed jetty]

Okay, let me set up everything to show you what I own.

[versed jetty]

@junior crown These are ALL of my Pokés.

[manic kiln]

I…..

Those are more than enough to do 12.5k

With ease

[gritty sentinel]

would hop and gloria work for the steel stage

gloria is 1:5

1/5

[versed jetty]

Okay, the teams, grids and debuffs?

[manic kiln]

You need to learn basic team building first

+101

[frozen depot]

> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you have done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding and gameplay.

1. When making a team, you usually want to focus building around a selected damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or not if they are strong enough to off-type). This can be a / striker or a tech. Take the time to read that damage dealer's kit in its entirety (moves and passives) to see what they can buff themselves. Critical-Hit Rate maxes at +3 while all other main buffs go to +6. Damage dealers should be in slot 3 for tactics.

2. Once you figured out your damage dealer, pick a to put on slot 1 in tactics so it takes the damage. The support will often want to cover the buffs the damage dealer needs and cannot max by themselves reliably (look for critical-hit rate, attack or special attack for example). If your damage dealer is fully self sustainable, the support can cover healing or defensive utility as needed!

3. Finally your last slot is entirely flexible and depends on your first two picks. You can take a tech focusing on utility like debuffs or weather/terrain that empowers your damage dealer, or another support that focuses on defenses and healing to survive longer, perhaps even boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a second damage dealer! It's important to experiment and remember that a successful team will be able to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealer fast so they can focus on pumping out damage as soon as possible!

Want to know more about Triple-Queue and other information about the game? Visit our #1010307000346878062 or check the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone!

[manic kiln]

For grid just copy from the doc in pin from #1009587872342478908

For paramaters/points you don’t need to aim high. Just do 850 each then if it’s manageable you can reset and aim for higher score. Can check parameters suggestion in this channel’s pin

[versed jetty]

Oh, I'm already aware of that list.

[manic kiln]

I’ll give you an example for Bruno. It’s easier to use ontype units (super effective moves) so pick mewtwo as your dps, bring bianca for psychic terrain to boost his dmg. Mewtwo can max his crit so he just needs a support to buff his sp atk

Then you can do the same for other teams

If your support is exed you usually sync with them first. If not just sync with strike/tech

[versed jetty]

So the team for Bruno would be like:
Musharna 2, Mewtwo 3 and Primarina 1?

Yeah, I'm more familiar with the Pokémon names. I'm Italian, so the trainer names are not familiar to me.

[manic kiln]

Ok i’ll use pokemon names. Primarina should works but he only buffs +4 sp atk without tm refresh but you can try.

He’s also not the best tank but with ex mewtwo should finish fast

[gritty sentinel]

should i replace lucian

[rotund lagoon]

Uhhhh you need a Support

Two Techs is not helping Gio at all with what he needs

I know Anni May has Sp Atk All, but you need a tank at least

[gritty sentinel]

does elio work?

but that will force may to use sp atk all once

[rotund lagoon]

Are you against Bruno, by chance? Cause you’ll want Defense buffing, not Sp Df buffing

[gritty sentinel]

or i can use mpr

[gritty sentinel]

this is just for a general psychic weak stage

[rotund lagoon]

You can use Roxanne on that team if she’s available

[rotund lagoon]

Well, you’re asking in CS, and it’s currently Bruno rn. And CS stages are different.

You need to adjust based on the stage.

[silent quail]

[gritty sentinel]

i cleared bruno with this team but i replaced lucian with sabrina

but anni may seems to be not doing much due to the lack of sp atk buffs

so i was asking if elio or roxanne would do better

but thanks for the help tho

ill probably use roxanne

[versed jetty]

Alakazam?

[manic kiln]

If you want to use alakazam then tank with bianca&murshana

[versed jetty]

The possibilities for the supports who buff SpAtk other than Primarina and Alakazam (taking off Xerneas and Eevee since they're too useful and I don't want to waste them on my first) are:
Serperior
Blissey
Meganium
Torchic
Glalie
Honchkrow
Marowak
Suicune (2/5, tho)
Latios (2/5, tho)
Azumarill
Crobat
Mesprit
Probopass
Swellow
Persian
Lunatone

[manic kiln]

You spent too much time thinking, just use 1, if it’s not working change to another, that’s how we learn to optimize team. Also most of the time move level is not that important especially on limited units. You can clear everything with 1/5 units.

You have more than enough options to build teams for 5 battles

[versed jetty]

Okay, but if I don't unlock everything on the grid I can't make full use of the units.

[trail smelt]

No need to

[manic kiln]

That’s not the point. You can clear without those extras power/utilities. If anything those just make clearing faster/easier

Or in some case units can solo stuff

Take suicune for example. At 3/5 she has some more options to give special move next effect which she already had in her base kit. Some more defensive buffs and potion refresh which you don’t need when the enemies are already dead

[versed jetty]

Okay, I've beaten Bruno with 1000 points. Used Musharna, Mewtwo and Serperior, edited a tad bit the Grid of the last one to get a Refresh 2 on the Sp Atk boost. Onto the next one: Agatha.

[versed jetty]

Beaten Agatha with a bit of difficulty and 1500 points. Used Giratina 2, Lunala 3, Suicune 1. Onto the next one: Lance.

[versed jetty]

Beaten Lance with A LOT of difficulty and 1750 points. Used Klinklank 2, Zacian 3 and Xerneas 1. Onto the next one: Lorelei.

[sand tide]

Returning noob here, really struggling on lorelei for round 4, non master mode. Any chance of success if I commit to leveling any of these pairs?

[versed jetty]

Commit to level Yamper.

[sand tide]

Whoops wrong screenshot, already used yamper in a diff stage

Feels like i'm doing comically little damage

[storm quest]

Wait wait, I'm in exactly the same predicament lol

[north crown]

first of all don't use a monotype team unless the teambuilding is good

+101

[frozen depot]

> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you have done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding and gameplay.

1. When making a team, you usually want to focus building around a selected damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or not if they are strong enough to off-type). This can be a / striker or a tech. Take the time to read that damage dealer's kit in its entirety (moves and passives) to see what they can buff themselves. Critical-Hit Rate maxes at +3 while all other main buffs go to +6. Damage dealers should be in slot 3 for tactics.

2. Once you figured out your damage dealer, pick a to put on slot 1 in tactics so it takes the damage. The support will often want to cover the buffs the damage dealer needs and cannot max by themselves reliably (look for critical-hit rate, attack or special attack for example). If your damage dealer is fully self sustainable, the support can cover healing or defensive utility as needed!

3. Finally your last slot is entirely flexible and depends on your first two picks. You can take a tech focusing on utility like debuffs or weather/terrain that empowers your damage dealer, or another support that focuses on defenses and healing to survive longer, perhaps even boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a second damage dealer! It's important to experiment and remember that a successful team will be able to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealer fast so they can focus on pumping out damage as soon as possible!

Want to know more about Triple-Queue and other information about the game? Visit our #1010307000346878062 or check the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone!

[crystal notch]

Have you looked at our pinned parameter suggestions?

[sand tide]

nvm just beat it easily thanks to zinnia and thievul lol

[versed jetty]

There IS?

[crystal notch]

Those tinyurls

Look at them and adjust to your team

I hope you haven't been slapping random parameters.

[versed jetty]

Beaten Lorelei with no difficulty and 1600 points (gave up on the one with 150 points because of the team). Used Luxray 2, Zekrom 3 and Yamper 1. Onto the champion. The one parameter I didn't include was the field lock.

[versed jetty]

Whoops 😄

[crystal notch]

...yeah, no wonder you've been struggling with 2.5k

Some of the parameters taken blindly is mega oofs

We never recommend taking -1 sync countdown for example

[storm quest]

Lol wait and who else 😅

[versed jetty]

Oh, that one I haven't been using it at all.

[paper summit]

never is a lie

[sand tide]

burgh/togepi and volkner/luxray

[paper summit]

there are teams perfectly capable of handling the enemy when sync countdown is in play

it's just not a thing you should be picking unless you know what you are doing

[storm quest]

Hmmm

[versed jetty]

What does "post-sync" mean?

And if my support is off-type, should I adjust my parameters to "off-type"?

[paper summit]

you let the enemy sync once, but you still have to defeat them before they do it a 2nd time

no, your support type rarely ever matters

your damage dealers are the relevant ones for that

[versed jetty]

Okay...I don't have a Bug Utility.

Should I just go with a good utility off-type?

The team then will be:
Utility 2, Volcarona 3, Blastoise 1.

[paper summit]

again, you don't have to match every pair you use to the weakness of a stage

like, supports are there to enhance your team, not to do damage themselves most of the time

[sand tide]

Dangit

2nd run down though

[versed jetty]

My bad, I meant "Tech".

[trail smelt]

Oh right I should make my teams

Seeing my “fairy” team tempts just a bit more to pull for SS Mina lol

[civic trellis]

SS Mina is a fairy support, how is she supposed to support them if there arent any

[trail smelt]

I got Diantha to boost but uh

They’re at odds LMAO

[civic trellis]

Oh, well she should be able to support her ig

[bleak eagle]

Man, i got enough powerups to make lusamine ex, but now im missing the spirits

But this whole new parameter stuff is confusing

[tame gust]

Fairy nuke? Sycamore or Lodge Lillie seem like good options for Fairy Weak stage

[toxic cobalt]

We have suggested parameters in pins

[zealous karma]

Anyone can think of some difficult theme clears preferably not one that doesn’t involve me not having to use Ex units

[toxic cobalt]

I have fun using one unit from each region (and then repeating the first six)

in order ofc

[zealous karma]

Oo regional clear I’ll do that

[fiery canopy]

aight fellas r1 whoooo should go first

[zealous karma]

If you’re using a tech ex or smth or a unit that appreciates debuffs use tjose

[bleak eagle]

Will this work for mastermode or? Im still not at that level of mastery of the game

[zealous karma]

Seems pretty overkill tk me

[tired sleet]

For the ghost team, i’d replace allister with a tank

[bright furnace]

yeah other than that tho, you're fine

[toxic cobalt]

Busted teams fr

Don't feel the need to monotype

[tired sleet]

Like Sabrina provides kinda little to SSMay/Lusamine

[zealous karma]

Wow that Lorelei sure can sync

[tired sleet]

What an interesting team

[swift swan]

are you doing some monotype monoregion shenanigans

[zealous karma]

Yes I’m still resetting for goid rng cause Gio hasn’t debuffed SpDef once since that last post

Mew PB when pain

I swear quad queueing against Lorelei is impossible

That delibird queues way faster than any other side in CS I swear

[paper summit]

are you doing this on round 2 or 3?

[zealous karma]

Round one

I’m not queueing reflect until second turn I know for a fact something it’s in the code for it ti to queue faster I’ve always thought this

The window feels way tighter than normal

[swift swan]

try turn denial then

[zealous karma]

I did but I always get bad SpDef rng luck

[swift swan]

[fiery canopy]

is it a good idea to fight lance r1?

also how is hop/solgaleo/syca? should i save syca for someone else?

[toxic cobalt]

Yes save Syca

Just run some basic speed buffer

[fiery canopy]

kk!

marley maybe?

[toxic cobalt]

Yep

[fiery canopy]

if im gonna use gio against bruno, who should i use with him?

[toxic cobalt]

A spatk buffer

Speed helps too ofc

[wide adder]

If you have psychic terrain: pt, gio, tank that can spatk buff gio

Would be an example team. Sorry if already solved I didn’t notice timestamp