New person came in asking for help with next week's bug-weak Blue fight
#Champion Stadium
proud axle
gritty sentinel
redlax maybe for super effective up?
proud axle
They have 3/5 Alder so I don't foresee a whole lot of problems
gritty sentinel
is alder syncing first in that team
north crown
how about SpeedTy? Is that situation finally cleared up?
proud axle
redlax maybe for super effective up?
This can work too, but the team still needs gauge
gritty sentinel
what would be good
tame gust
those rare moments when confusion does save a run are great though.
proud axle
how about SpeedTy? Is that situation finally cleared up?
Complained about not being fast enough, but I'm not sure they agreed to turn the game speed down
gritty sentinel
gauge and crit buffs right
proud axle
Also they're still refusing to touch Master Mode without more EXes
Because I guess they're still convinced the problem is their tools and not their gameplay
Alder can max his own crit, I thought
Need gauge though
gritty sentinel
Alder can max his own crit, I thought
better to have a support to help him no
grand steppe
Alder would prefer someone who provides at least +1 crit. So he can avoid using DH+ twice.
proud axle
Let's see, would you end up using Sycamore elsewhere?
north crown
nah he can max before first sync, unless you need those extra turns
north crown
is ssb ex?
proud axle
SSB can do it, but Sycamore might do it better
proud axle
I'd use Sycamore here then.
gritty sentinel
so sycamore alder and viola
proud axle
Yeah, sounds good
gritty sentinel
who would be syncing first
tame gust
when was the last time SS Blue made an an appearance? I'm missing him and SS Leaf
proud axle
You can use SSBlue against Lance or something, where more phys attacks are a problem
north crown
AYO 2/5 HAS ADRENALINE
gritty sentinel
sycamore im assuming
proud axle
who would be syncing first
Sycamore
gritty sentinel
okey
proud axle
Sycamore needs to sync for +6 teamwide Speed, and also he's EX Support
...Also the enemy has a lot of special attacks, and Sycamore gives +6 SpDef
raw halo
AYO 2/5 HAS ADRENALINE
Yes
gritty sentinel
wait so pre sycamore sync what does the team need to do
proud axle
wait so pre sycamore sync what does the team need to do
Lemme think
gritty sentinel
alder wont buff with his tm no since sycamore is syncing
proud axle
alder wont buff with his tm no since sycamore is syncing
...Why not?\
gritty sentinel
does sycamore give +6 sp def or is that another unit?
raw halo
You do TM, Dire Hit + with alder and spam hyper beam
Viola can use x speed or immediately struggle bug
Sycamore TMs and then just uses dazzling gleam until sync
north crown
why u bringing viola..?
raw halo
Alder multipliers
raw halo
To use as little gauge as possible
gritty sentinel
ah
raw halo
If you have the gauge for horn leech go for it
proud axle
Turn 1: Dazzling Gleam, Alder TM, X Speed
Turn 2: Sycamore TM, Dire Hit Plus, Struggle Bug
Turn 3: Dazzling Gleam, Hyper Beam, Struggle Bug or Viola TM
Sycamore Sync
Turn 4+: Hyper Beam spam, Struggle Bug spam, Dazzling Gleam or Moonblast spam
gritty sentinel
sycamore does get mga on his tm so it might be enough gauge
raw halo
Turn 1: Dazzling Gleam, Alder TM, X Speed
Turn 2: Sycamore TM, Dire Hit Plus, St...
Basically this yeah
proud axle
Sycamore TM on turn 2 because otherwise I'm not real sure you have the gauge for that Turn 3 Hyper Beam
Good luck!
proud axle
If you have the gauge for horn leech go for it
Phys Reduction 8 though... 
mellow linden
Sycamore's damage will be irrelevant anyways, tbf
raw halo
Phys Reduction 8 though... <:HilbertHmm:625860604347023360>
You can adjust params, 100 points isn’t that hard to fit in
But that’s only if sycamore will need the healing
proud axle
He's gonna have regen anyway
raw halo
Yeah
proud axle
You can adjust params, 100 points isn’t that hard to fit in
Okay. Standard Reduction 8
400 points is... a lot harder to work around
Moonblast is only on the table at all because it's another SpAtk debuff source
civic trellis
Ah got it
raw halo
Okay. _Standard_ Reduction 8
You can probably do something like:
Phys reduction
Special reduction
No status
No interference
Sync Buff
Hp 2
Ally healing
Half ally MP
Gradual Healing
No weather/zone/terrain
Strength 2
Hp 4
Strength 3
Move gauge -2
Strength 6
That should be 2.5k
proud axle
11 Strength? 
gritty sentinel
there is str 8
tame gust
Oh right, you shouldn't be relying on Sycamore to self heal with Horn Leech with SR8... or PR8 Or even both.
raw halo
there is str 8
Edit
raw halo
Typo yeah
civic trellis
Does he have multipliers for it even at 1/5?
raw halo
Not at 1/5 no
proud axle
Half Ally MP... Is actually fine this time. Nice.
raw halo
But they have 3/5
proud axle
HP 2 and HP 4 together, though, that worries me all over again
raw halo
It’s definitely not going to be easy but it is “doable”
You might be able to slot in support x3 cause sycamore can just heal
That gets rid of hp 2
proud axle
I think I'd absolutely rather forego Sycamore's lifesteal for those 400pts
proud axle
Sycamore has special bulk, he doesn't need lifesteal to tank this
He can even grid for Impervious to block all of Blue's debuffs
Maybe see if he can fit Moonblast On A Roll in the same grid for more SpA drops
raw halo
Yeah
Regardless going with the above parameters is just an option, personally i’d see if regen alone is enough
If it isn’t you can try make horn leech work
And if both fail off-type 
proud axle
Hunh, I forgot to actually post that video of the 40k B Fiery Wrath
I posted a screenshot of it earlier but when I got home to compress the video, I got sidetracked with another thing
brave halo
OK so bug might be the second hardest one here, does lyra work well here or is there another support I can use? Oh and also gear idk what's better
tired sleet
Note that you will want to take SS Morty’s TM MPR; make sure to only use his TM under sun
wicked pebble
Anything I should know on the special stadium?
old orchid
Prepare for Round 4 and avoid fighting Lorelei on R3
tame gust
bring weather for bertha and pray that Greninja doesn't spam Neutral B. Sorry, Smash Bros reference
tired sleet
Take Bertha and Cerena the most seriously
tame gust
There's also no shame in chemical warfare Toxic stalling.
wicked pebble
my only grass strikers worth noting are SS Erika and Brendan.
tame gust
do you have Silver/Ho-oh?
wicked pebble
I've got SS Morty
tame gust
I mean, even better I suppose? You could do double sun birbs, but reason I ask about Silver/Ho-oh is because Solar Beam
tired sleet
Anything I should know on the special stadium?
Lorelei and Cerena use mostly special moves, Bruno, Bertha, and Grimsley use mostly physical moves
wicked pebble
Ah.
old orchid
Post your Grass roster then we will help you planning teams
tame gust
Off topic, but Winston, donate me three of your Lillieteas.
And yeah, show what units you have with grass moves.
wicked pebble
tame gust
TF you mean your Grass roster isn't good?
trail smelt
LMAO
tame gust
Hell, SS Lyra alone can probably body a stage.
brave halo
Bring a spdef debuffer like Lucian
Problem tho, my only characters that aren't strikers that lower spdef and with any grid stuff is helena and rosa
tame gust
Does your Brendan have Dauntless as his Lucky Skill?
tired sleet
Problem tho, my only characters that aren't strikers that lower spdef and with a...
Is your koga not 3/5?
brave halo
Wait hold on, why can't I use Lyra when she has stuff like light screen and benefits from sun?
wicked pebble
Yeah, Brendan does have Dauntless.
tired sleet
Wait hold on, why can't I use Lyra when she has stuff like light screen and bene...
You can, but Burgh has Smarty-Pants for a SpDef debuff multiplier
wicked pebble
It's just that I only hear Brendan and SS Erika mentioned on grass type strikers.
brave halo
Is your koga not 3/5?
Uhh not sure why koga is necessary but yes 3/5 but no grid yet
tired sleet
Lyra doesn’t really provide much to the team besides the offensive buffs since ss morty alone fixes any tanky issues
wicked pebble
Is the grass monkey worth considering?
tame gust
Okay, yeah, you've got a stacked grass roster. Heck, I heard Sycasaur can do pretty well as a grass striker.
tired sleet
Uhh not sure why koga is necessary but yes 3/5 but no grid yet
Koga debuffs SpDef with Mind Games 9 on Venoshock
tame gust
Is the grass monkey worth considering?
Victor? Tbh you've got a good enough roster that you shouldn't feel the need to pull for him if you're only trying to find 'outs' for Special CS.
tired sleet
For some reason i assumed you were talking about lodge gloria 
brave halo
Koga debuffs SpDef with Mind Games 9 on Venoshock
Uhhh where is he getting Mind Games tho?
tired sleet
Would having Ash and Redchu as outs be somthingto consider?
That’s a back up if all else fails
tired sleet
Uhhh where is he getting Mind Games tho?
The grid? The top left sector
tame gust
Uhhh where is he getting Mind Games tho?
Venoshock.
wicked pebble
Okay, so SS Lyra, SS Erika, Brendan, and who else?
tame gust
who all do you have gridded Typh?
brave halo
Yeah my only spdef droppers right now with grids are the two I mentioned
Granted Rosa is only a 2/5 with a weird grid but still ex
tame gust
you.. you do know you don't HAVE to have grids to beat stages? It helps with some units but I've gotten high scores on MM CS and some of the units I've been throwing in have no grid investment.
wicked pebble
pretty sure all of those three are gridded but I have enough co-op orbs to grid any of them.
old orchid
Yeah my only spdef droppers right now with grids are the two I mentioned
Then grid Koga, grid Mind Games 9 at least
brave halo
I won't be able to get there for quite a while cause I have others to grid at the moment
tame gust
Funnily enough, Mallow can be a pretty good attacker. She's not any super special S-class attacker, but she drops enemy attack and she can inflict confuse. So she's worth considering for the physical attacker stages. So probably best to use her against Grimsley or Bruno since Bertha you'll want to counter with weather.
...You're complaining that you don't have grids yet you don't want to grid what's being suggested for.. siiigh
manic kiln
Pretty sure i can mono clear with these 15 pairs 
but you should have no problem clearing ontype using these and any OP supports you have, if you’re lazy then poison stall is always an option
brave halo
...You're complaining that you don't have grids yet you don't want to grid what'...
Again I have multiple other characters in line and only get like 900 a day
Well technically only counts for 90 but still
manic kiln
Trainer Lodge speed up the orbs farming a lot if you max your cache team. Also spending lodge stone for orbs is another option
brave halo
I only use the stones for certificates and cache doesn't always give me luck
And before asking yes the cache is level 10 on both sides
brave halo
It will be if I'm the one playing
manic kiln
You can’t have everything 
also with the worst luck cache still give 500-600 orbs/day on a average
tame gust
also, I'm surprised that with your roster you don't do the $3 daily gem pack. That bumps you to 180 orbs a day from the daily rather than 90.
old orchid
Not all players are willing to spend real money on the game
brave halo
I'm f2p, I got other things to use cash on, I've only spent like 5 bucks ever
tame gust
I mean, true.
brave halo
Both were for stuff for eggs long ago
manic kiln
You missing out ex materials by not doing MM but you want those useless papers when they’re less important
brave halo
I'm gonna go after them soon, I just need more ex, so doing regular hard mode is more than enough for now
tame gust
just saying, your choices in where your resources go is highly questionable in terms of efficient team building when there are clear options to make things easier. Not saying to cash. But some of the self-imposed rules/limits you're making bottlenecks some more important benefits rather than the small stat gains from leveling up.
brave halo
Now I could've gone after the sync orbs in lodge exchange if that was my only method of getting them, but nope they have training level
So I have no reason to use the lodge stones on something not exclusive when I can just go for the certificates
tame gust
...
brave halo
It'll take a while yes but I'll get there
tame gust
Okay, I give up with you.
wicked pebble
"Im lacking sync orbs, what should i do?"
"Exchange some in lodge"
"No"
people lack sync orbs?
brave halo
I never said I was lacking tho, only i have other characters to grid first
tame gust
In every session of advice that I've seen you engaged with, you've been nothing but stubborn, difficult, or flat out ignorant. We've been giving you advice and ways to try to improve. You have, at nearly every turn, be unwilling or very reluctant to try what not only I, but others, have suggested. Some have even gone to the effort of recreating teams you've suggested to SHOW that what you're saying is different from what's actually possible.
I'm sorry for the rant, but I'm tired of trying to help people who ask for help and then go "But my way's better/correct anyway". /rant
paper summit
it's really not worth it to waste energy trying to help someone that just will ignore everything you advice, and doing that is incredibly disrespectful btw, why do you even bother to come here and ask for anything? legit question
plenty of people here with much more experience and you just think: "No, I know better than all of them"
grave wyvern
No one is obligated to follow any of the advice given here, but on the same token, if said advice is constantly ignored or argued with, don't be surprised if the people helping you choose to no longer do it
Thank you to those of you providing help in this channel, as always 
pseudo hatch
Did the CS get harder ? I am with a full attack crit cynthia and she only does like 900 dmg with earthquake.
mellow linden
What parameters are you using?
pseudo hatch
The rule is low defense
mellow linden
And what team?
pseudo hatch
Ingo, and 2 cinthyas
old orchid
Did you accidentally pick Physical Reduction parameter?
tame gust
Didn't happen to turn on Standard Reduction or Physical Reduction 8 on mistake, did ya?
pseudo hatch
Mmm maybe
tame gust
can't wait for MM parameter saves.
pseudo hatch
Oh Even if crit that happens?
old orchid
Yes
pseudo hatch
Dammit, thank You guys
old orchid
Its not a stat buff so crit cant ignore it
pseudo hatch
Sry i didn't knew this
I Will be more careful now
That explains why last week i couldnt Best Agatha xD
tame gust
It's fine, it's part of the new parameters so it can catch people off guard.
old orchid
No need to sorry, you learned a new thing today
tired sleet
The physical damage reduction (that sets up reflect) that is 50 points can be bypassed by crits, but not the one worth 100 points
paper summit
nope
tired sleet
about those damage reduction params
No
rotund lagoon
No
gritty sentinel
damn
tame gust
Yeah, not even Rats can bypass it.
paper summit
they aren't passive skills
gritty sentinel
free points tho if not using mixed strikes
tired sleet
Piercing Blows only bypasses Passive skills that reduce damage (and the endure effect)
rotund lagoon
I mean…all you have to do is select Physical Damage Reduction (the one worth 100) and you’re fine
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rotund lagoon
free points tho if not using mixed strikes
BUT you can do Sync Buff 5 instead if you have mixed damage dealers.
tame gust
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gritty sentinel
btw can someone explain why standard damage reduction is in the recommended params even if it lowers the damage by that much
tame gust
Standard Damage reduction neuters damage that's not super effective
paper summit
it's there assuming you are using an on type damage dealer
you are not gonna pick that if you intend to off type the stage
rotund lagoon
We do have params for off typing tho, make sure to use that if you intend to off type
gritty sentinel
oh
physical dmg reduction and special dmg reduction doesnt get ignored with super effective?
tired sleet
physical dmg reduction and special dmg reduction doesnt get ignored with super e...
They have nothing to do with supereffective damage
Only standard damage reduction lowers off type damage
tame gust
Standard Damage Reduction weakens all attacks that are not super effectives.
Damage Reduction reduces the damage done by its attack variety
tame gust
God help you if you decide to do something crazy like Standard, Special, and Physical DR and you're not using a toxic-stall team.
raw halo
physical dmg reduction and special dmg reduction doesnt get ignored with super e...
Physical and special only reduces their respective damage (special reduces special, physical reduces physical), standard reduces ALL damage that isn’t supereffective i.e it doesn’t care if you’re physical or special, as long as you’re super effective you’re fine
raw halo
With max params like 100k
tame gust
lmao
raw halo
Assuming you picked all the hp and strength tiles
gritty sentinel
oh
raw halo
It’s a decent bit lower in standard params
tame gust
Thicc wasp
gritty sentinel
like all of them
raw halo
Yes
gritty sentinel
gotta test that out
raw halo
One sec
tired sleet
+pomatools has the exact HP stats
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gritty sentinel
i hope CHop can still take it down
tired sleet
i hope CHop can still take it down
Elec Weak Aaron? He has Sentry Entry X 2
tired sleet
C Marnie or even Hau would work
gritty sentinel
or hau
paper summit
then use a special striker, problem solved
gritty sentinel
CMarnie would work tho right
paper summit
yes
gritty sentinel
no dark zone or rebuff tho
tired sleet
You can use flinch to prevent him from using Heal Order, which is great since the most common Elec Terrain setter has a 50% flinch rate
old orchid
no dark zone or rebuff tho
Can bring a spdef debuffer like Lucian
raw halo
An average 2.5k aaron clear should be around 70k (note: these aren’t the pinned parameters but what I use personally)
gritty sentinel
Can bring a spdef debuffer like Lucian
yea my current team with her is lucian cmarnie and ssb
ssb might ruin it
since the heals
old orchid
That team will clear Aaron just fine
gritty sentinel
but so far it hasnt been that much of nuisance
old orchid
Dont pick heal tiles in SSB grid then
paper summit
just as a fun fact, this is how much HP he has with full HP + Strength params
old orchid
Or use another support
paper summit
chunky bee
old orchid
When bee go berserk
paper summit
he'd heal 104k with Heal Order
tired sleet
An average 2.5k aaron clear should be around 70k (note: these aren’t the pinned ...
What params do you use
paper summit
in normal circumstances you'll be fine yes, because you won't be picking that much HP anyway
raw halo
just as a fun fact, this is how much HP he has with full HP + Strength params
Honestly Ash can probably still beat this
gritty sentinel
dont have ash
raw halo
What params do you use <:MonkaScottie:684438879352127543>
It depends on the comp i use, the one above was for NY Volkner
tired sleet
With my usual params (strength +7) he only has 37k hp
tired sleet
It depends on the comp i use, the one above was for NY Volkner
But what were you using for the 70k hp
gritty sentinel
i cant nuke it with cmarnie so ex support probably
north crown
Problem tho, my only characters that aren't strikers that lower spdef and with a...
Lucian can do that and more at base kit. Stop thinking / having the mindset that every pair needs a grid to preform better than others. For fuck sake 1/5 CMarnie can one shot sides with her B move
north crown
In every session of advice that I've seen you engaged with, you've been nothing ...
Oh jesus christ people are giving up their faith
I guess I will give up too if others that are more patient with people aren’t able to help either
proud axle
I actually once turned down a Helper role for this server because I want to be able to give up on people
Being allowed to reserve the right to say "nope, not my problem anymore" is hugely important to me
north crown
Can I get the helper role even if there is no consistency to when I help people?
proud axle
I dunno. You'd have to make a good impression on the mods here, I guess
old orchid
We helpers have the right to give up on people if they arent willing to listen to our advice
grand steppe
uhhh I ain't getting paid to help. It's all selective service. 
eternal matrix
Yeah no one here is getting paid to help, it’s just all voluntary. The point is just to help out folks who may require help, offering them advice in the given circumstance. If they choose to not listen to the advice, that’s on them
tired sleet
Ngl since i became blue i’ve been a lot less active in helpful activities 
toxic cobalt
Please try and keep this thread to discussing Champion Stadium rather than meta-commentary.
tired sleet
Question, can this channel be used for more general (not strictly help related) discussion on CS? The TL channel is kinda like that, but that’s probably cause TL isn’t something that requires help often
wicked pebble
How does this look for the normal cs?
Want to finish that before working on grass teams.
tame gust
this for the current week or next week?
wicked pebble
This week
tired sleet
They should be great!
tame gust
I'd say pretty solid.
void wyvern
Hop isn’t really necessary with Lucas. You can run a sp def debuffer or another dragon attacker
Hilbert can swapped out for a different speed buffer or defence debuffer. Masked royal is a good example
tired sleet
Yeah, 1/5 lucas is definitely better off with a dragon teammate like cyrus
wicked pebble
Like who on hilbert?
tired sleet
Joey recommended masked royal for example, or any speed buffer or defence debuffer
wicked pebble
Yeah, 1/5 lucas is definitely better off with a dragon teammate like cyrus
Do you have any idea how gauge intensive that would be?
tired sleet
Do you have any idea how gauge intensive that would be?
I’ve played lucas + cyrus countless times, lucas is one of the most gauge friendly teammates that exist
Especially considering your third is skyla
wicked pebble
Until tm counts run low. I guess I can try but...
Also, again, who else for speed?
tired sleet
Also, again, who else for speed?
For ss gio? If you don’t have masked royal, marley works
toxic cobalt
Question, can this channel be used for more general (not strictly help related) ...
Yes, although preferably not when someone is currently being helped
wicked pebble
For ss gio? If you don’t have masked royal, marley works
How does he raise speed?
civic trellis
Tm raises team speed
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tired sleet
She has X Speed All
civic trellis
Tho wouldnt it not matter if ur using hilbert or marley? It should still work if they arent using hilbert anywhere else
tired sleet
Wait if you meant Masked Royal, “Ready… Fight” raises Speed by 3 for all allies and can be used twice
tired sleet
Tho wouldnt it not matter if ur using hilbert or marley? It should still work if...
This was for the Ingo/SS Gio team
tired sleet
Tho wouldnt it not matter if ur using hilbert or marley? It should still work if...
Oh yeah true
wicked pebble
Wait, they changed parameters. Is there a new goal to reach other than 850 for the minimum?
zealous karma
I dunno. You'd have to make a good impression on the mods here, I guess
I'd never gotten the role then I have accidetnally broken so many rules lel
mellow linden
Not really, 850 still gives all the most important rewards
wicked pebble
What's the combo you want?
proud axle
12.5k is the new max
civic trellis
U can prob do -2 gauges, sdr8, phys/spec reduction, and 150 from other params
proud axle
But there's "only" 
and 
beyond 10k
7.5k still has the 
so you might wanna push for that if possible
proud axle
Oh. Hm...
You've even thrown them at literally every sync pair that can take them already?
proud axle
Alright, then.
7.5k -10k has and then 10 BP at the end
wicked pebble
I'll take another look, I guess.
zealous karma
You've even thrown them at literally every sync pair that can take them already?
I also have everyong I own gridded and still have like 50K lel
civic trellis
It depends what u need ig
proud axle
I keep ramming into the hardcap (with everyone already full-gridded) myself
civic trellis
At the end its alot of spirits and 15 tickets
proud axle
But since 12.5k gives a few more and ... I shoot for that
(Also to keep myself sharp)
civic trellis
I still have quite alot of pairs to grid 
like maybe 16 5s + my 43 4s
Luckily everyone I use the most is gridded
proud axle
If you aren't that interested in the rewards, you can certainly aim lower. It could save you some sanity
bright furnace
I'd never gotten the role then I have accidetnally broken so many rules lel
You’re still pretty helpful overall tbh. You help run the calcs and have helped create teams when people show their sync pairs. A lot more than what I’ve ever done tbh
paper summit
help harder, smh
bright furnace
grand steppe
You should aim for more rewards, you're only halting your roster's progress by not trying new difficulties.
Gardenia & Lodge Sycamore are a wonderful duo with the CS Parameter 5 stats ↓ 3. 
proud axle
Gardenia with the Uno Reverse Card TM, and Sycamore with Impervious, huh
wicked pebble
Alright, gone through and just about every 5* unit has as full a sync grid as I can give them
Still at 65619
These are all the units I have left and not sure they'll be too useful.
proud axle
...I'm seeing some amazing ones in there
wicked pebble
How so?
proud axle
Sages just mentioned Gardenia, for example. Erika/Tangela is another Toxic staller, and can easily get 100% success rate on Toxic
Roxie is a very competent Poison attacker
toxic cobalt
Ungridded MC Torchic pain
proud axle
Lodge Steven is one of very few sources of Special Rock damage, which helps a lot against Rock-Weak Malva
(Since she has Sentry x2)
Torchic can now max the team's SpAtk and crit with MPR on grid
BP Surge can use all the help he can get, to shore up his uncomfortably low bulk
Will can probably come in handy if we have a Psychic-weak Pasio League; Shauntal would be handy against a Ghost-weak one; Hau would be handy in an Electric-weak one
I've used Crasher Wake (fully gridded) to crush LG Moltres
Candice/Abomasnow is a very capable Ice nuke, should we see an Ice-weak Pasio League
Candice/Frosslass is an uncommon case of a Striker weather setter
Blaine has one of the highest Speed ratings in the game, plus Quick Tempo to make the most out of it.
Here we are, 3rd fastest in the entire playable cast.
grand steppe
I think you should probably wait for a response.
proud axle
Erika/Vileplume is an early example of a Tech tank. She has more bulk than a same-level Misty/Starmie, and she has Healing Sun 2 so she regenerates very quickly in Sun. She's also useful against Legendary Arena fights that demand a status condition
zealous karma
You’re still pretty helpful overall tbh. You help run the calcs and have helped ...
ty lel
tame gust
Giga's on a roll with the pair info.
proud axle
I'll stop when I'm out of stuff to say
zealous karma
Lodge Steven is one of _very few_ sources of Special Rock damage, which helps a ...
outside of nuke roark is just better sadly lel
proud axle
outside of nuke roark is just better sadly lel
Roark can clean up the sides (which do not have Sentry x2) while Steven snipes Malva herself
tame gust
Yeah, Sentry 2 sounds like a bad time for Head Smash.
wicked pebble
finally out
proud axle
Yeah, Sentry 2 sounds like a bad time for Head Smash.
On the bright side, halved damage means halved recoil.
I used Noland... I don't think it was last Gauntlet, maybe it was the one before that. In very long fights like Legendary bosses, Fury Cutter can ramp up excellently
Ah, right, it was against Regirock
wicked pebble
so, is the minimum combination 2000 now?
for getting the significant rewards?
or is it 850 still?
I only see 2500 and 2000
proud axle
Depends on what you consider significant, I suppose. I recall that some people were kind of unimpressed with the quantity of and available past that, so... maybe 10k is enough
proud axle
so, is the minimum combination 2000 now?
Oh, there's a google doc with other score targets
zealous karma
Yeah, Sentry 2 sounds like a bad time for Head Smash.
its not lel
wicked pebble
I don't see that in pins.
might be blind but yeah
oh, it was a tinyurl link
do zones count as weather?
wicked pebble
ah, okay
proud axle
It does not forbid things like accel field, at least
Really risky to take that one against, say, Bertha or Flint though
wicked pebble
Yeah, really not that interested in getting orbs. I'll just go a few weeks and I'll probably be close to max again. That's how easilly I seem to get these things.
tired sleet
Might as well keep pushing a little higher each week so eventually you can do 12.5k and get more
wicked pebble
maybe 1500 then?
zealous karma
For reference entry x2 is basically like if your off typing but still have access tosuper effective passives annd multipliers
proud axle
10.5k: 5
11.0k: 5
11.5k: 5
12.0k: 5
12.5k: 5
So you get 15 more if you manage to go all the way
tired sleet
It’s not much but if you have the roster and capability to do it, might as well
devout sluice
Oh shoot I forgot this reset is CS.
proud axle
(And 10 more but those don't bottleneck most players)
paper summit
I wish normal CS give coin candies
uh? it does, it's just role specific, not the yellow one
paper summit
1.2k
crystal notch
Huh
paper summit
they rotate the role every month
crystal notch
No wonder I didn't see it, I only stare at the higher points tier of rewards
marble orbit
Whats your team stats :o
cosmic willow
Whats your team stats :o
For the grass or dragon stage?
wicked pebble
Okay, finished standard CS
help with grass CS?
I'm guessing lead pokemon would be SS Erika, SS Lyra, SS Leaf, and SS B rendan?
I mean, Brendan, normal Brendan
Gardenia for the last slot?
old orchid
Can you send your Grass roster again?
Silver is also a good option, since his Solar Beam has good dmg
wicked pebble
old orchid
LSycamore is really good
swift swan
SS Erika, Brendan, SS Lyra, SS Leaf, all can be in separate teams
Lodge sycamore is great. A bit frail but good damage
wicked pebble
Yeah, I know, was planning on that.
proud axle
Is this about Pasio League? Neo Serena's entire team hits you with group-target SpAtk debuffs every time they attack. Fortunately, Lodge Sycamore has Impervious innately, so he doesn't have to care about that
wicked pebble
Is this about Pasio League? Neo Serena's entire team hits you with group-target ...
I mean... I could also hit it with Ss Leaf.
or SS Erika.
Both of whom laugh at the idea of special attack meaning anything.
proud axle
...SSLeaf has SpAtk debuff immunity? Or is this about toxic stall
wicked pebble
Or hell, Brendan, who laughs in Dauntless.
wicked pebble
...SSLeaf has SpAtk debuff immunity? Or is this about toxic stall
...SS Leaf is a physical attacker, isn't she?
Frenzy Plant?
I recall that being physical, unless I"m wrong?
proud axle
Frenzy Plant is Special my dude. In the main series it's a clone of Hyper Beam
keen jasper
Frenzy Plant is Special my dude. In the main series it's a clone of Hyper Beam
Like Blast Burn and Hydro Cannon
marble orbit
For the grass or dragon stage?
Both :o
proud axle
SSLeaf is, comically, one of very few Grass attackers that have to worry about the SpAtk debuffs
proud axle
Selene is phys, Sycamore/Xerneas Horn Leech is phys (and he can grid for Impervious anyway), SC Sonia is phys, Gardenia can invert debuffs into buffs and grid for Sunny Disposition to become immune to debuffs during Sun...
SSLyra has phys Grassy Glide but her sync is special, so you have to watch out if of you're using her
zealous karma
can use any spatk/crit buffer like mchic
old orchid
Sabrina, SS Elesa, Torchic,... there are many accessible options
wicked pebble
This is what i have so far.
zealous karma
why is cyrus with Lycamore
wicked pebble
why is cyrus with Lycamore
Because I'm building over top of the normal CS team and didn't replace everyone yet.
zealous karma
o
wicked pebble
Skyla is overlapping too
Like I said, not everything is replaced from the normal cs team
old orchid
I made this comment before your explanation 
wicked pebble
This look better?
old orchid
SS Lyra's sync is special, so you should use a mixed support like Torchic
keen jasper
This look better?
Replace Masked Royal for a Sp. Atk. buffer
crystal notch
Thinking of either offtyping electric weak
With sc zinnia
Or wait if poma day give me elesa dupes
zealous karma
no elesa?
crystal notch
1/5
zealous karma
o
zealous karma
No BPSoph
crystal notch
I don't even have the more important BP pairs yet
zealous karma
with sf9 her recoil isnt noticeable lel
old orchid
No 2/5 Hau?
zealous karma
oh right hau th goat
crystal notch
Isn't hau a story pair
zealous karma
yes
void wyvern
Yes 
crystal notch
...you want me to candy hau?
old orchid
Hi joey
crystal notch
Ehhh
zealous karma
why not?
crystal notch
Wait hau is 4*
Not 5
Oh braindead
Got his rarity mixed up with acerola, sleep deprivation sneaking in
zealous karma
i'd candy hau if he was 5*
crystal notch
Can candy him then yeah
zealous karma
Hau I still use a ton even with elesa being a fav
I usually rotate between the two
wicked pebble
crystal notch
Yeah I like elesa
wicked pebble
This work better?
old orchid
Yes
zealous karma
Really?
He carried me as a new player and just left an overall positive impression on me I am really high on him lel
civic trellis
Same, I used him before I got ash
I havent even EXd him yet but may do it eventually when I start EXing for music keys
bright furnace
Hau/Sabrina/Volkner we’re the OGs before the rats existed
zealous karma
Hau/Sabrina/Volkner we’re the OGs before the rats existed
Back in our day.......
bright furnace
Back in our day.......
We had 7.5k MM..we might get 15k by 2024..
zealous karma
plz no
bright furnace
Then you can help even more because you’re the 15k MM expert around here 
wicked pebble
What's a good order for the special cs?
keen jasper
What's a good order for the special cs?
Which one?
wicked pebble
Grass one.
keen jasper
Grass one.
More like plan who you want to face on round 4
proud axle
Round 2 amplifies toxic stall damage. Three of the E4 have only Lessen Poison 8 instead of the usual 9 (Lorelei, Bruno, Grimsley)
Lorelei's postsync TM gives her regen, extending the time you need to stall
Grimsley uses a Dire Hit after TM, which can be bad if he uses a group-target attack and crits your team
Bruno has a Full Heal and a Dire Hit
You might try something like Erika/Tangela toxic-stalling Grimsley on round 2, and then SSLeaf's uniquely powerful toxic stall against Lorelei ln round 4 (toxic stall barely cares about the halved countdown)
Bertha demands the weather changed. So SSErika and/or Silver would be useful against her.
High Horsepower, during Sandstorm, might actually OHKO your tank on the first turn if you don't change the weather
Bertha being part of the infamous Sinnoh League, you might actually need that much firepower to make it past her
meager agate
took a few tries but i finally got a no-hit crobat squad run
squeezed that in at the end here
proud axle
Round 1: Faint Penalty
-When any Pokémon faints, its surviving teammates are debuffed in Atk, Def, SpAtk, SpDef, and Speed by 1 rank each
Round 2: Entry Reflect
-Both teams begin battle with the Physical Shield field effect (this can interfere with quadqueuing)
Round 3: Entry Light Screen
-Both teams begin battle with the Special Shield field effect (this can interfere with quadqueuing)
Round 4: Debuff Amp
-Negative stat ranks (debuffs) are more potent than usual
Champion: Status Amp
-Poison, Toxic, Burn, and Trap inflict more damage per turn; Sleep, Freeze, and Flinch last longer; Paralyze and Confusion have an increased chance to cause moves to fail
toxic cobalt
Round 1: Faint Penalty
-When any Pokémon faints, its surviving teammates are deb...
If you have time Giga, it'd be helpful if you edited that to have a bit more prose.
Absolute garbage tier though
old orchid
nov got fired
devout sluice
Time to wait for next weeks.
cosmic willow
I tried anni may with Holiday Jasmine there was no way Bruno was living after a support buff and I'm shocked the side lived the must ball
verbal karma
Do I need a Physical Strike or a Special Strike against Lance?
old orchid
either is fine
devout sluice
I don’t know, I used physical against him, had to reset a couple times for hop to give Steven +3 crits.
wet gate
what order should i do them in?
verbal karma
either is fine
Oh, he has equal amounts of Def and Spec. Def?
frozen depotBOT
old orchid
Menu -> Champion Stadium
toxic cobalt
what order should i do them in?
Really doesn't matter this week
tired sleet
If you rely on debuffs, do that R1 or R4
R2 against Lance or Bruno
R3 against Lorelei or Agatha
wet gate
ok
in this thing what does masochist and tank friendly mean
i mean i kinda get tank friendly but what is masochist
#1009554906568462476 message
devout sluice
I have no idea, I chose post sync on type instead.
paper summit
you give the enemy more power in exchange of avoiding as much extra bulk as possible
paper summit
this means your pairs will likely receive more damage if you aren't quick enough
spring fable
Any order I should do the e4?
paper summit
it's basically for teams with high dps/sync damage output
toxic cobalt
I just use it for most teams 
In fact, works better for teams with low output as they need it more
paper summit
Any order I should do the e4?
not particularly, the only mildly interesting one is the debuffs when a pair faints, so if you want to use a team that takes advantage of those then do that battle then
toxic cobalt
Striker SS Erika can punch through bulk. Striker Erika, less so.
paper summit
hmm, yeah, guess you are right, I'd still not go with hyper offense with a weak team tho...
or rather, wouldn't recommend it to someone less experienced
toxic cobalt
I'd never recommend Striker Erika
Just an example 
For me, hyper-offensive is for a weak striker but a strong tank.
spring fable
Oh I am attempting Agatha r1, I dont do enough dmg with nuke fantina
My team is fantina, Lucian and cbede
paper summit
that should be fine? make sure you didn't pick the wrong parameters, we need that preset saving feature, it's a chore to manage them!
old orchid
are you sure that you activated the MPR tile in their grid?
if yes, that means you are ultra unlucky
spring fable
This is her first sync, my first sync only did 9k
verbal karma
are you sure that you activated the MPR tile in their grid?
Yes, I did
void wyvern
This is her first sync, my first sync only did 9k
Let me look into this.
spring fable
Let me look into this.
It’s ok, I swapped out Lucian for more dmg
void wyvern
Lovely
spring fable
Thanks tho
swift swan
nov got fired
ngl I forgot today's Monday 💀
void wyvern
Welcome to Monday!
old orchid
which Clemont
toxic cobalt
Dps life is the way
sinful garden
#1010274591601598555 for cs clears please
wet gate
ok sorry
crystal notch
hmm
having issues with lance
pre sync param
currently doing solgaleo-ex ssa cynthia-persian
persian is there for crit buffs and atk buff
solgaleo is so slow
this whole team is so slow
time to ex blue and get a bona fide flincher to replace persian?
toxic cobalt
He's called Slowgaleo for a reason
toxic cobalt
If you have Hop and Skyla free that's an easy team
crystal notch
R2 btw (which is double edged)
crystal notch
If you have Hop and Skyla free that's an easy team
does anyone there buff crits tho
toxic cobalt
Hop
crystal notch
hmm alright, maybe I misremembered his tm
toxic cobalt
R2 btw (which is double edged)
It's really not, all Round 2 does is prevent quadqueues.
crystal notch
true
toxic cobalt
You really only need crit, so you can run a weaker crit buffer, it's just Hop makes it easy by adding his own steel damage
crystal notch
freevenge moment
toxic cobalt
If Skyla flinches that makes it even easier
crystal notch
true
toxic cobalt
True Slowgaleo moment
north crown
are you running the steel dogs + skyla? hell nah
crystal notch
yeah this isn't working either
even at 3 crits
solgaleo keeps missing crits
opponent about to die?
yea what about I don't crit
-solgaleo
finally
hmm what does hau want
out of his 2/5 grid
spring fable
which Clemont
Sflr, clemont heliolisk
north crown
2/5? dafaq
north crown
I mean,,, you only got inertia as your multiplier
and speedy entry doesn't help much since 2 uses of tm maxes speed anyways
He does need heavy support for offensive buffs
crystal notch
currently trying to figure out a team
to lorelei
worst case scenario, ofc, poison stall
but she has sync cure
so obnoxious
R3 messing up quadqueues
north crown
you could try denying left either with sync, or sleep/flinch
will give more time for Hau to chip the stage away
crystal notch
true
north crown
could run something like cbede hau utility bot
could replace cbede with torchic, though idk how well that'd go
crystal notch
hmmm, I could, but I'm reserving cbede mayziken burgh for blue
north crown
have any other electric dps?
crystal notch
elesa...at 1/5
also I'm able to ex ss blue or sonia
hmmm
maybe I'll wait til poma day
see if I get elesa dupes
I've spent too much time beating up lance already
gotta go back to do work
Makes me regret not pulling the rats...almost.
crystal notch
What buffer would hau appreciate
north crown
I just looked thorugh your roster, and spotted 1/5 falkner and volkner 
toxic cobalt
Yes
crystal notch
Oh, volkner it is then
north crown
volkner sets et, and let me remind you of our favorite 2 words: flinch gameing.
crystal notch
LMAO
yeah I saved winona
and whitney
does he want to sync under his own terrain?
toxic cobalt
Falkner provides crit and spatk
crystal notch
does his grid have HE1?
toxic cobalt
Uh he has something but not sure what move level
toxic cobalt
Well, he provides terrain
crystal notch
true
would this team be better off on r4
instead of r3
I can beat up agatha with giovanni + sabrina + sp def debuffer first instead
north crown
10% flinch is
voklner has innate he4, bumping his rate up to 50%
falkner has 30% base rate that can be increased with an expanded grid
crystal notch
o
beautiful
yeah I'll wait for tomorrow
maybe falkner dupe
from pomas day
or sth
for now, let's turn our eyes to r3 agatha
also side note: I have a lot of ex-ed supports still in the wings
haven't used leafvee
or lucario
or rosa
and I can still ex blue or sonia
cbede is off the table though
north crown
as you stated, you could probably poison stall comfortably
crystal notch
true
north crown
if it ever comes to it
trail smelt
Done with Kanto
Wonder what next month brings
And if Pasio Special will be a monthly or not
crystal notch
actually
can guzma first impression blue to death
with good ol sc steven's support?...
I wonder
ah, well, burgh will solve that problem, I suppose
spring fable
Should I let heliolisk or Lux ray tank against lorelei?
spring fable
Ash!
crystal notch
ash should nuke easy
old orchid
Ash then
crystal notch
that guy doesn't need dupes to nuke
just make sure to wait til max gauge to press b thunderbolt
old orchid
ah, well, burgh will solve that problem, I suppose
note that Burgh demands sun and spdef debuff to do good output
crystal notch
toxic cobalt
Bugsy is better
old orchid
yeah
old orchid
even better than Guzma
crystal notch
do I even have bugsy
old orchid
for his grid, try to get Blind Spot at least
crystal notch
I was thinking of running cbede mayziken 3/5 burgh
welp, burgh can go L then
side note: who should be the third party member to sabrina + giovanni + whoever
vs r3 agatha
biancaless
toxic cobalt
Oh Agatha
crystal notch
psychic terrainless
toxic cobalt
Anyone
crystal notch
okie
toxic cobalt
Is Sabrina gridded for speed?
crystal notch
I could regrid her
what nodes does she wany
for speed
3/5 sabrina btw
so don't worry
toxic cobalt
One of her reflect tiles gives speed
crystal notch
alright, will get it soon enough
old orchid
+gridlist
frozen depotBOT
Document by Spark#8888, found in #1008010844547842079
Sync Grid Builds & Tier List - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vF42uzF-xpkcfIU2gVEY4Dl7sS_I3ITj8g5X2lo1usA/edit?usp=sharing
old orchid
you should pay this doc a visit
crystal notch
yeah already did
just didn't have the time jn
hmm, yeah, just need to wait for pomas day
for Bugsy 3* PUs
I just need 5 more
old orchid
you can try to see if 3* Bugsy works or not
crystal notch
which is realistically achievable
crystal notch
you can try to see if 3* Bugsy works or not
true, true
might be fine
crystal notch
Alternatively, bugsy + sc Steven + a tank
verbal karma
ugh...R3 Agatha is giving me trouble 😦
mellow linden
What team and what parameters?
zealous karma
ugh...R3 Agatha is giving me trouble 😦
Is it possible for you to grid shauntal?
Assuming you used Gio for psychic
mellow linden
Might not need her depending on their team
verbal karma
What team and what parameters?
Kimono Jasmine/Fall Acerola/Sycamore
all 3 of them are EX'd
and I am using pre-sync parameters
mellow linden
Can’t say I understand why you’re running 2 Sp. Atk. Supports with a physical damage-dealer, even if Acerola is largely self-sufficient
zealous karma
I’d bring a def debuffer instead
mellow linden
An Attack/crit Support and a Sp. Def. buffer, probably
Sonia’s a good choice for the Attack/crit Support because she also gives Defense debuffs
mellow linden
Can’t say I understand why you’re running 2 Sp. Atk. Supports with a physical da...
Also, I was sorta wrong about this, Fall Acerola’s Trainer Move doesn’t do max crit and +4 Attack like I thought it did
So the team you’re using rn is just…not very good
verbal karma
Can’t say I understand why you’re running 2 Sp. Atk. Supports with a physical da...
I just have them for their EX syncing and crit buffing
not like it matters, though
because even with a EX support double sync buff, fully buffed crit rate and the enemy confused alongside Fallcerola being EX'd, it's not even close to beat Agatha
mellow linden
An Attack/crit Support can provide EX and let F. Acerola deal more damage faster
I mean, maybe try an actually good set of Supports for F. Acerola 1st
If that fails then alternatives can be explored
verbal karma
I originally had Kiawe instead of Kimono Jasmine
but that didn't help either
Kiawe was also EX'd
mellow linden
Try a 3/5 Hilbert, 3/5 Sonia, or 2/5 Aaron
verbal karma
I already used up Sonia
mellow linden
Since they can max Attack/crit
verbal karma
so I guess Hilbert it is
mellow linden
If you need EX and Hilbert isn’t already there then make your 2nd Support an EX one. Don’t click Phantom Force until the center is down since it’ll screw up your Sync countdown
What move level is Fall Acerola, btw?
verbal karma
Hilbert isn't EX'd, but I guess I can try with Kiawe again since he is
Fall Acerola is 3/5
mellow linden
Yeah, should be able to work fine if she’s properly gridded then
Just do 2nd Sync with Acerola
And have No Stat Reductions and Interference Immunity turned off if for some reason they’re turned on
Because those 2 things directly interfere with a significant portion of Acerola’s kit if they’re turned on
mellow linden
Depending on what teams you’ve got lined up you could save Agatha for round 4 then, if you don’t have any way to get around that
mellow linden
Is there a reason why?
verbal karma
the R4 gimmick, easy
mellow linden
What team are you using that makes said gimmick so important for Lorelei? Fall Acerola can take advantage of Round 4 as well anyways
verbal karma
...aside from being able to lower Defense, she only really gets attack buffs when her target is confused
meanwhile, for R4, I could use a team where the main attacker's main buff comes from the opponent's speed getting debuffed
mellow linden
….if Speed debuffs are the only reason then fight Agatha on Round 4. Speed debuffs are already pretty much pointless outside of setting up damage modifiers, so you’re getting less out of Round 4 than you would with Fall Acerola
spring fable
Any tips?
rigid flint
What parameters are you using?
rigid flint
Judging from the pairs the battle should be clearable
Hmm ok who are you syncing with first?
mellow linden
I think the fact that the enemy was able to Sync despite it being pre-Sync parameters is one facet of the issue
spring fable
Sycamore!
mellow linden
Could grid Sycamore with Adrenaline
rigid flint
Sycamore!
Were you able to quadqueue?
Just from what I understand
Spamming Techno Blast should do some pretty heavy damage to mid
spring fable
I was not because of sycamore
I retried it but reorganised my move order and it worked
12.5k completed, Ty
spring fable
Tyty
tame gust
Plan for Loreli: EX Hilbert, N-Zek, and Volkner
mellow linden
Yep, should obliterate her
tame gust
I was originally going to use a bug team against Blue, but then I saw the R4 and Champ parameters and have decided that toxic stall is more amusing
civic trellis
I wonder what we’ll have next month? Alola maybe?
main crow
We haven't had Alola for quite a while now yeah?
civic trellis
According to bulbapedia it seems like the last time we had it was july
old orchid
The next CS is likely to be Alola
toxic cobalt
Please remember to post clears in the appropriate threads
manic kiln
Yeah next cs should be alola to complete the current cycle 
then we’ll see if they add new region
verbal karma
Ugh, I can't beat R4 Agatha either
This time, it's one of Kiawe's passives preventing me from quadqueuing
dark osprey
deny the left mon then. then no need to quad queue
or try using double strikers with an EX support
so that u can probably kill either ways
mellow linden
Do you have an EX Support other than Kiawe?
verbal karma
I actually do have an EX support that lets me get away with not needing quad queing...but then I'd lose out on the extra Def debuffing...
manic kiln
You probably don’t need ex support if you run double dps. Something like fantina agatha and a sp atk/crit support. Don’t even need quadqueue to kill the mid presync
verbal karma
I am running Fall Acerola, tho
mellow linden
Unless the opponent uses X Defense All then Fall Acerola can get -6 Defense on her own
And even if they do -4 Defense is still a good total
If her Defense debuff passive works differently than I think it does then it's -5 and -3, which isn't that much of a difference
verbal karma
welp
big enough of a difference for Fall Acerola to not be able to beat Agatha before the opponent does the first sync
or maybe not, considering Agatha still has more than 50% of her HP left
old orchid
Give Adrenaline to Kiawe, easy
verbal karma
so maybe Fall Acerola is just the wrong choice
verbal karma
Give Adrenaline to Kiawe, easy
sorry, but he already needs Vigilance
old orchid
Do you really care about 4% chance to crit that much?
mellow linden
Is Kiawe the one taking hits?
verbal karma
anyway, I feel like maybe I am just using the wrong team for this battle altogether
spring fable
Damn trin I didn’t see you for abit
verbal karma
considering like I said, Fall Acerola can't even do 50% of Agatha's HP
not even with the support EX sync buff
mellow linden
If you wanna change teams then feel free, but the fight should definitely be doable with Fall Acerola
verbal karma
or the crit buff
verbal karma
If you wanna change teams then feel free, but the fight should definitely be doa...
I mean, like I said, Agatha still has more than 50% of her HP left after Fall Acerola's sync
I don't see how that's doable
verbal karma
yeah
I already have Kiawe replaced with SC Jasmine right now
sadly, still can't win
toxic cobalt
You’re not winning with two syncs?
mellow linden
yeah
Ok, just making sure since if he wasn't that would absolutely explain the problem
toxic cobalt
Have you picked the wrong damage parameter
verbal karma
no, I picked Spec Dmg reduction
aside from that, I actually removed Max HP ^2 in favor of "Can't Change Weather"
since I won't need to change any weathers, zones or fields anyway
crystal notch
aside from that, I actually **removed** Max HP ^2 in favor of "Can't Change Weat...
that's fine, that's great actually
toxic cobalt
Why… we’re you using Hp at all?
crystal notch
modifying parameters are always good to suit your team
mellow linden
Could you show us your Ghost types, btw? Depending on who you have you may be able to run double damage-dealer or something
toxic cobalt
What are your parameters
verbal karma
Why… we’re you using Hp at all?
because that's the recommendation in the pins?
toxic cobalt
Did you pick the parameter which blocks confusion?
verbal karma
Did you pick the parameter which blocks confusion?
nope
toxic cobalt
Are you decreasing defence with your hits?
verbal karma
I am
crystal notch
because that's the recommendation in the pins?
the recommendation in the pins is supposed to be a starting point to be modified according to your team, as written in the important section
verbal karma
the recommendation in the pins is supposed to be a starting point to be modified...
and I did modify for Fall Acerola
mellow linden
Could you show us your Ghost types, btw? Depending on who you have you may be ab...
I'd like to revisit this
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Could you show us your Ghost types, btw? Depending on who you have you may be ab...
Oh yeah, I forgor 💀
mellow linden
...You have SSR Cynthia
dawn anchor
And anni Lillie
tribal agate
hum
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I actually tried with SSR Cynthia before
and it didn't work out
which is why I switched to Fall Acerola in the first place
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...welp, time for me to remove the "Can't Change Weather" parameter and add back "No Status Conditions" and "Max HP ^2"...
mellow linden
SSR Cynthia is basically a cheat code for Ghost teams
And the best part about using SSR Cynthia and Fall Acerola together is that Fall Acerola can use Shadow Sneak when you need to save gauge
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damn, never thought about using the two together for this
tribal agate
Lisia & Altaria
mellow linden
SSR Cynthia + another Ghost damage-dealer is basically the only thing I do for Ghost weak stages these days
It shreds
dawn anchor
SSR Cynthia is the only pair with ghost wish right?
crystal notch
I regret bringing lucian to ss steven clear, he clearly didn't need it
mellow linden
And I do post-Sync parameters as a base, so I'm dealing with more bulk
mellow linden
SSR Cynthia is the only pair with ghost wish right?
SC Lillie has a 5% chance to set it on Trainer Move
tribal agate
SSR Cynthia is the only pair with ghost wish right?
yes but Tea Lillie has a whooping 5% chance with TM to get Ghost Zone
which i always get in the worse moments
crystal notch
alas, I'll have to find an sp def debuffer for poor giovanni now
hidden ore
Is Bruno preferred on R2?
crystal notch
yes but Tea Lillie has a whooping 5% chance with TM to get Ghost Zone
*which i a...
gacha addict: 5%? lesgoo
mellow linden
Is Bruno preferred on R2?
He's one of the 2 best ones, technically, since he uses only physical moves
dawn anchor
I never follow the round parameters but I somehow end up fine
toxic cobalt
This weeks round parameters are particularly meaningless
hidden ore
Trying to find supp for M2 and Latias for Bruno
Tried Skyla but i don’t feel her
mellow linden
Honestly yeah, the parameters this week are largely superfluous
dawn anchor
The only time it is important if it’s like infinite weather/zone/terrain because that’s extremely helpful
crystal notch
The only time it is important if it’s like infinite weather/zone/terrain because...
sinnoh bertha: did I hear something?
dawn anchor
Just use another weather to counter lol
crystal notch
but yeah just weather overwrite
dawn anchor
it’s the main gimmick for the stage anyway
crystal notch
half sync tho
that's the evil one
pasio cs couldn't have been more evil than letting half sync param exist in the same place as bertha
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...okay, R4 finally done, thanks
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now final question: what's preferred for the R5 battle against Gary, Physical Strike or Special Strike?
mellow linden
Doesn't matter
spring fable
He's one of the 2 best ones, technically, since he uses only physical moves
Lance and lorelei are physical too!
mellow linden
Kanto CS rarely-if-ever favors a particular damage category
dawn anchor
He only uses special moves so what I did what use that parameter and use SC Emmet as my main damage dealer
toxic cobalt
that's the evil one
Just use sycamore
grave wyvern
pasio cs couldn't have been more evil than letting half sync param exist in the ...
i learned this the hard way do not be like me
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because even with a EX support double sync buff, fully buffed crit rate and the ...
You don’t have interference immunity right f Acerola kit revolves around confusion in case you forgot
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yeah, I didn't have it
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...oh yeah, I don't actually have much in terms of Bug-type damage dealers...