Champion Stadium

[proud axle]

If you're stacking maxHP, you kinda deserve what you get

[grizzled hearth]

I like those odds

[proud axle]

[grizzled hearth]

I mean, max hp is the way to go for stall still

And I love stall

Ghetsis stall works great with the new max hp

[dusty crater]

trying the ball guy team

[vapid notch]

what do u need help with

[proud axle]

If I wanted to do an all-Support clear, this is what I'd try

Sycamore tanking, spamming Horn Leech like his life depends on it (it does)

Sycamore syncs first, Ball Guy syncs second for EX Support

Ball Guy dispels the entry buffs, and also Blue's item buffs

[vapid notch]

y r u punishing yourself

[proud axle]

Let's see... Gonna need to make a little adjustment since Ball Guy needs a status on the enemy if he wants to replenish his MP

[grizzled hearth]

I'd personally go for 5 stats down over up

Cuz Sycamore can have impervious

Oh wait

Ball guy

Right

[dusty crater]

got it

[proud axle]

Might be worth it, then

Actually you could use both

And then take off the No Status condition

And maybe another one...

[grizzled hearth]

Unless you have flinch, doubt that there's anything too useful

[dusty crater]

what's funny, i didn't even use status conditions with ball guy

[proud axle]

Yeah, looking at 50 points extra that I can't really get rid of

[zealous karma]

Maybe you can ask Aurochs for their sycamore solo params

Ofc ball guy has a bit more tools but also doesn’t have a more consistent form of drain

Hp

[proud axle]

Why are people pinging me for this

[dusty crater]

Thanks @proud axle @grizzled hearth beautiful clears.

[zealous karma]

I pressed unping b it discord said no lel

[proud axle]

That's only half the question

Why are you telling me

Linkable's the one doing it

They just posted the proof that they won

[zealous karma]

Oh lel

[grizzled hearth]

I face that a lot as well

Like for poison stalls, I sometimes just end up going 2.7k cus the extra 200 makes no difference

[mellow linden]

Whoops, I goofed earlier. Lodge Dawn was 3/5 when I used her against Lorelei, not 5/5

Not like it mattered much, but my bad

[grand trout]

Can ball guy poison

[zealous karma]

Ye

From his passive or from toxic change on absorb

[dusty crater]

let me double check, he has effect spore as a passive so it's 33% chance on poison, sleep or para

Toxic chance 4 at 3/5 for Absorb

[dark osprey]

Wow. So Ball guy supremacy confirmed I guess

People were sleeping on his kit I guess

[zealous karma]

He can solo all but one gauntlet iirc

Moltres is the one he can’t solo lel

[dark osprey]

At least 33%

Yeah. He's perfect for LG I guess. Now there's CS as well

[toxic cobalt]

I don't know if being great in an all-support clear makes a unit good for CS

Especially in the Sycamore Hop sandwich

[dark osprey]

We have to get ball guy the recognition he needs. At all cost

Honestly the crit buffs and move gauge boosts for an EX support is quite good on it's own in CS

[weak sleet]

Thanks everyone for the help today, much appreciated

[zealous karma]

The F2P cheat code lel

[devout crown]

im trying to use brendan to do the event cs, and im really struggling to get him to do dmg. i have dauntless on him, and haven't given the enemies any hp or spdef buffs, but hes hitting them for just above how much they heal with gradual 😭 am i doing smth wrong?

[fallen glade]

Was struggling with him as well

Used classic elesa, Brendan & support

Went all HP and no gradual healing

I'm not sure without classic elesa/ debuffs he'd be okay

Plus his sync move did Jack

[weak sleet]

I had to ex mine and run him with sun with ss Morty.

Plus give him critical raises.

[fallen glade]

Without crit raise he's probably doing nothing though lol

[toxic cobalt]

Are you not raising his crit?

[devout crown]

i am to max

[devout crown]

which one is classic elesa? im assuming not zebstrika

[grand trout]

Maybe you have special damage -8?

[grand trout]

Emolga

[devout crown]

double checked cus i was thinking there's no way he's doing this little, but no its off

[zealous karma]

Who’re you using with Brendan again apologies

[devout crown]

i tried him vs bruno and grimsley on first round with phys def up

[zealous karma]

I’d expect 1.2K Leaf storm@pre sync and like 3K+ post Ex support@sync

Assuming 1/5

5K for 3/5 with charging Sun

[devout crown]

mines 2/5, and was hitting around those numbers

[grand trout]

Try him with sun yes

[zealous karma]

Does he get Sun toles at 2/5 ik he gets Rs

[dark osprey]

Not sun at 2/5. Right

Also hopefully he's gridded

[devout crown]

speeding/healing sun and solar shield looks like

but not charging unfort

i have him gridded the best i can at 2/5

[dark osprey]

For ramming speed

[devout crown]

man my grass units are so weak

i do have rammin on yeah

[zealous karma]

Just try and grab a bunch of LS BP tiles

[devout crown]

i dont think i was buffing my speed to max actually though

hm

[zealous karma]

Which supports wre you using alongside him?

[zealous karma]

Do keep in mind you’re not forced to on type for this event

You can always off type with your stronger pairs

[devout crown]

i was using dawn as a tank and switching around the last slot

[zealous karma]

If dawns 3/5 she can be used as a sync nuke on a diff team Brendan at 2/5 just needs Spd support and can bring a SpDef debuffer like lucian

[devout crown]

i dont think i have lucian yet but ill see if i can find a spdef debuffer

[zealous karma]

Koga is another consistent one

[grand trout]

Ss leaf!

[zealous karma]

If they have her scan also be used on another team so e

[fringe mango]

hello

[devout sluice]

People rather use SS leaf for poison stall parameters

[fringe mango]

is there a chart for Pasio points to get 12500?

[zealous karma]

Check the pins

[fringe mango]

I been struggle what to get and it hasn't been easy

[zealous karma]

The pins have a variety of recommended parameters

[devout sluice]

You’ll have to zoom in on the charts

[fringe mango]

okay

I need some explinations

so for the tank friendly and maschoist

what's the difference?

like before or after the sync move of the opponent?

[dark osprey]

before the sync is usually preferred if u have a decent damage dealer on team

post sync is less utilized and would need some defenses and healing on team as well

there's also poison stall which is like a cheat code

and for the ultra-masochist there's rush paramaters as well

[fringe mango]

is that what the tank friendly and Masochist is?

before and after sync move?

[paper summit]

no

[dark osprey]

not in the pins

[paper summit]

both tank friendly and masochist are pre-sync parameters

[dark osprey]

both pre sync. the one in the pins mentioning masochist is the one where the tank has to take quite a beating

so need a better tank in the masochist paramaters

[paper summit]

masochist is just a name given due to giving the enemies quite a bit of power, but depending on your damage dealer is not much of an issue because they can just kill the enemies quickly

[dark osprey]

honestly thought the masochist one would have max sync countdown -2 and all but seems it does need the tank to bear all the 6 moves of the enemy

[paper summit]

yeah, when your damage dealer can wipe with first sync you can totally just go with rushed sync params

[fringe mango]

gotcha

doing a lot better

had the terrible parameters haha 😅

[tulip python]

Anywhere that I can find some updated parameters for the 12500? Having some trouble nuking with even a good grass type

[devout sluice]

The pin ones isn’t helping?

[zealous karma]

In pins

Unless they’re not helping Idk lel

[devout sluice]

I mean, people use custom parameters in replay so can copy there also.

[zealous karma]

These are my params if you want to check it out

[devout sluice]

Or you can stick with the poison stall option.

[tulip python]

Oh that’s so different than what I was trying I’ll give this a shot

[zealous karma]

Strength 12 is a big jump for some players but for me it’s easier than what I tried using in pins in the past lel

[tulip python]

Honestly I feel like power on hit gives more problems than just damage boosts

[zinc island]

I don't even know how much the multipliers are

[tulip python]

Hmm yours is better since it also doesn’t do the sync countdown reduction i need to try that

[toxic cobalt]

Never use sync countdown that's crazy

[zealous karma]

Move multipliers like ramming Spd are 30% unless they have a number next to them such as chase down 5 beinf 50% for a less steel requirement
Sync multipliers are 100% such as haymaker, brute wits, inertia, brainpower
If the sync multiplier has a number next to it, X * 10 of that number

So CS2 is a 20% multiplier

[dark osprey]

Wouldn't say never though. Once you've got an expansive roster with a good understanding of the mechanics, they could try. But yeah, if that were the case, they wouldn't be asking here

[toxic cobalt]

Never except when you do

[minor mauve]

bruno

[keen jasper]

Unless you're like me who uses it for the half sync CD round

[minor mauve]

a seven foot frame, defense along his back

like why is this guy so tanky

[dark osprey]

he actually has the same stats as the others and the base CS battles

[tulip python]

Are other types nerfed to heck or something

My go to off type sleep squad

[zealous karma]

No

[tulip python]

Isn’t cutting it

[keen jasper]

Standard Damage Reduction?

[zealous karma]

Do you have standard damage reduction?

[tulip python]

Yeah

Ohhh is that why?

[keen jasper]

80% mitigation if not super effective

[tulip python]

OHH

Omg@

Bloody bell

That explains that

I’m a dumbass

This is what I get for playing at 1:00am

[north crown]

me on the last day of LG:

man I've been working to the point where I don't even realize it's past midnight

even now I try and see if there's anyone who needs help

[summer flare]

I was looking into the neo champion stadium

And now I feel dread

Types I thought as previously solved might be in jeopardy once again

Such as grass

[rose ermine]

Standard damage reduction lowers offtype damage right

[dark osprey]

yes

[swift swan]

...oh yeah

I forgot, I should've taken max sync countdown -1 for half sync parameter

[swift swan]

well, offtyping with strong pairs is always possible

[verbal karma]

still don't know how salvagable my current selection of grass types is

[devout sluice]

No BP Erika for poison stall?

[dark osprey]

i guess Selene, Victor, Brendan are possible to build on

[keen jasper]

SS Erika is very strong

[dark osprey]

then there's Silver, sun setter and maybe lyra or an EX support

oh yeah forgot SS Erika

[keen jasper]

Gardenia herself is pretty decent too

[dark osprey]

so get the best supports for them probably. could have claimed Lodge Sycamore for an easy clear too

Gardenia is nice too yes.

[keen jasper]

Mallow is good for either Bertha or Bruno

Since they mainly use physical moves

[dark osprey]

i think 1/5 mallow is probably slightly an added weight

can use nuke dawn as well

would prefer if she was EXed

but think its still possible

[keen jasper]

Who are we talking about?

[devout sluice]

Plus, this CS doesn’t expire next week so you’re safe if you forget to do the CS Grass Stadium

[keen jasper]

Trin right?

[dark osprey]

oh lol. my bad. growing old. bad eyesight

mallow is decent too

mallow plus ss erika is a good combo

Gardenia and Silver would be great if u have SS morty

[keen jasper]

I'd probably separate SS Erika and Mallow

[verbal karma]

I actually am trying to use Gardenia on R1 Bruno right now

it's...not going so well...

[dark osprey]

who else with Gardenia?

Roxanne plus sun setter is a decent f2p core

[keen jasper]

Roxanne + Blaine/Tech Vulpix

[verbal karma]

...can I also use Kiawe instead of Roxanne? I have Kiawe EX'd, but not Roxanne

[keen jasper]

Kiawe is fine

He can buff for Gardenia

[verbal karma]

thnx

[keen jasper]

Both Sp. Atk. and crit

[devout sluice]

Are you using the parameters in the pins also?

[verbal karma]

I am

...and I am still losing

there seems to be some kind of passive that's preventing me from quadqueing

which means I can't KO Bruno before he does his sync

[keen jasper]

Kiawe's Quick Tempo

[verbal karma]

damn

damn, he has no grid-built Adrenaline

[old orchid]

give Kiawe Adrenaline

[verbal karma]

and I really don't wanna replace his Vigilance with Adrenaline

[devout sluice]

But then he’ll get crit

[keen jasper]

IIRC one of the sides has Crit All

[devout sluice]

So ya that’s too risky

[verbal karma]

indeed

so yeah, no replacing Vigilance

[devout sluice]

And crit all also so that’s another problem

[keen jasper]

Actually, Bruno has Dire Hit

[verbal karma]

...anyway, replacing Vigilance with Adrenaline is not an option

[devout sluice]

Are you saving SS Leaf on a different stage?

[wicked ibex]

Poison Forever

[devout sluice]

I forgot I could’ve fox stalled with MC.

Oh well I’ll have to do it next type CS.

[verbal karma]

yeah

SS Leaf is a poison expert, and it just so happens that a different stage wants to have poison

[devout sluice]

Gotcha.

Well you’ll have to ask someone else for help. But I believe in you.

[verbal karma]

...oh, I know what's preventing my quadqueue now 💀

it's the R1 gimmick running out

...I don't like having to use Sycamore this early, but I just might have no other choice at this point

[wicked ibex]

You can adjust the rotation to lengthen or reduce the animation preventing it from stopping you from quadqueue

[verbal karma]

?????

what do you mean with all of that?

anyway, even when I do manage to get two sync attacks out before Bruno gets to do his

it's STILL not enough to beat Bruno 😦

[wicked ibex]

Simply put, the buff will end after 45 seconds. You just need to find a way to sync after 45s or before 45s

[verbal karma]

oh, that

the only one who can do that and also buff Sp. Atk is SS Elesa

and I don't wanna use her that early

then again, I also didn't want to use Sycamore that early either

and he has actually Adrenaline

[wicked ibex]

I don't think a single sync pair can change team animations that last longer than 45 seconds. It depends on the team comp

I see you can still offtype easily with Mew2 so you don't have to worry about your grass roster

[shrewd oyster]

The evil has been defeated
Now onto grimsley

[verbal karma]

nope, I can't

Mewtwo hits like a wet towel

and is ALSO unable to survive a sync from Bruno

no, I have to make my Gardenia team work somehow

I just have to

[drifting sleet]

Who use

Sceptile needs lucky skill right

[old orchid]

Sceptiles needs Dauntless

so you have SS Leaf, Brendan, SS Erika, Silver and Mallow for 5 teams

[drifting sleet]

SS leaf as striker or toxic

Does Mallow need any specific support?

[old orchid]

i would use Leaf in a stall team

Lorelei is the best stage to stall

Mallow needs atk and crit support

[drifting sleet]

Hmmm okie will try thx

Does Mallow need atk down support or can she stack it herself

[old orchid]

if you can grid Overwhelm 9 in her grid, she can set up by herself

but i would bring an atk debuffer to save turns

[drifting sleet]

Oh wait she needs confusion too

Might as well just bring nydawn then

[old orchid]

yeah she is a great partner

[verbal karma]

...I am STILL stuck at R1 Bruno in the Special CS 😦

[crystal notch]

Hilbert folded!

Errr, what do I do now?

Flinching is unreliable because TMs

Also ignore the fact that I didn't go for sides

Almost all the damage happened after everyone died

[old orchid]

can you post your support roster here?

[frosty axle]

is that for the medal?

[old orchid]

its not

[crystal notch]

CSMM

[frosty axle]

then you want someone to buff sp.def not defense

why not use Anni Lucario

[crystal notch]

Used it to nuke bea 2.5k

[frosty axle]

or Xerneas

[crystal notch]

Xerneas was used on agatha

[frosty axle]

well what haven't you used

[crystal notch]

Well, I mean...my original thought was mayziken ss steven someone

But then yall recommended hilbert acerola Olivia for on type

And that's the result basically

I'm reporting back

[frosty axle]

You did use Bede?

[crystal notch]

Yeah

To clear Bruno

I could ex someone in a few days tbh

[frosty axle]

well you don't have many options with those supports

unless you level them

[crystal notch]

I don't mind leveling them

I have 2k books

Sync orbs on the other hand

Just wasted 2k gridding olivia

[frosty axle]

which grid did you do?

[old orchid]

can try SS Blue

[crystal notch]

Lemme screenshot

[frosty axle]

2k seems not much

[crystal notch]

She's 2/5

So no sandstorm power up grid right

[frosty axle]

seems alright

Psyduck could work if you did get the free orbs from event

but doesn't give crit like Giovanna Persian

so I would probably try Giovanni Persian, Palossand and Lycanroc

[crystal notch]

Noted

What presets?

1.5k?

[frosty axle]

what points you got so far?

[crystal notch]

6.15k

[frosty axle]

so you wanting 7.5k

then do 1350

should be easy to do that with new parameters

[verbal karma]

Okay, real talk

do I just have a bad sync grid for Gardenia?

[rose ermine]

Should I focus on confusing or lowering attack of bertha

[hidden ore]

Gettin’ crit’ed on Gloria

[pliant zinc]

Hello ! I need help too sorry ahaha, I beat Olga and Peter but Aldo and Agatha really bother me and even Blue I still don't see what composition to do to smoke him, can someone help me please? I looked at the recommended teams for Aldo, I miss a few duos (Gold/Lugia, Boréas, ...) and Agatha, I don't have Lillie

I want to make 12k500 please ahaha

[old orchid]

use this site to show your units

+tracker

[frozen depot]

https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/

For newcomers/beginners, check the video below on how to properly showcase your pairs : https://i.imgur.com/A0XcAgZ.mp4

[old orchid]

changing weather is the highest priority

[frosty axle]

did you use sync nuke from grid helper document?

[verbal karma]

argh...even when I changed Gardenia's sync grid so she has solar sync buff instead of a second speeding sun, I am STILL unable to beat Bruno with my second sync

[pliant zinc]

omg sorry

[verbal karma]

Her new grid

why can't I just win?

[rigid flint]

:O it’s trini

[verbal karma]

oh, heya

[rigid flint]

What team are u using with Gardenia?

[manic kiln]

gardenia is decent but she's nothing special, needs heavy support, it is understandable if she's unable to presync, if you want to use her I recommend using dual dps

[verbal karma]

Blaine and...sadly Sycamore

I would have preferred to save Sycamore for later, but

R1 gimmick kinda requires me to have him

since the R1 gimmick running out prevents me from quadqueing

[rigid flint]

Right right

It does seem that it would work…

[verbal karma]

and yet, it does not

[rigid flint]

May I see ur grass types rq?

[verbal karma]

...man, I wish I could give her "Double Down 5" on top of "Solar Flare", but that would require me to get rid of Sunny Disposition, and that's not good

[dark osprey]

is Sycamore gridded for adrenaline?

and syncing with EX sycamore right?

[rigid flint]

I’d assume so since they specifically mentioned using Sycamore to counter physical shield

[verbal karma]

yes

[verbal karma]

yes

[dark osprey]

probably paramaters then

[verbal karma]

I am using On-Type Pre-Sync (Tank Friendly) parameters

[rigid flint]

You could use Gardenia and SS Erika together

Then save Blaine for Brendan

[verbal karma]

I wanna save SS Erika for later, though

same with Brendan

[rigid flint]

Hmm

Do you have any spdef debuffers by any chance?

[dark osprey]

are u missing leaf storms by any chance?

[verbal karma]

nope

[dark osprey]

also could take charging sun tile on her grid

its like a 30% multiplier without much setup

[late grove]

koga mg9🔥

[crystal notch]

did 7.5k! thanks

any feedback for the future?

"do not use EXs on non champion"?

[verbal karma]

...Gardenia doesn't have Charging Sun, though?

oh

it's for Leaf Storm specifically

...damn, I don't have any energy left, though

[old orchid]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/2700/40700?s=5&l=140&r=4&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBgkMDRAXGhsfIi8

use this grid

[pliant zinc]

ok it's done how to show you my box please

[old orchid]

what's her lucky skill btw?

press image button

copy or save that image, then send here

[old orchid]

any EX here?

[pliant zinc]

Copy paste it works thank you, I could not save the image

yes I have exes but I didn't know how to put them

[verbal karma]

CS2

[pliant zinc]

oh omg i found wait please ahaha

[manic kiln]

should sort by type too, much easier to read

[verbal karma]

...oh no, now the miss RNG is happening 😦

[verbal karma]

yeah, no

that grid isn't working out

infact, I am doing even worse with that grid than with the previous one

[old orchid]

You let her drop spatk right?

[verbal karma]

no

[manic kiln]

you really ignore my advice lol, you're not going to presync with her with that team regardless of the grid, her dmg is not good enough, run dual dps or completely change the team.

[verbal karma]

of course I don't, that's why she has Sunny Disposition

[verbal karma]

I didn't ignore it, I acknowledged it but also said why it won't work

[manic kiln]

sunny disposition is also useless because you still have to waste multiple turns waiting for xerneas buffs which is slow

[verbal karma]

I can't have dual dps because I need a sun setter and a support

and I want to save SS Erika for later

[pliant zinc]

Okay sorry

[verbal karma]

and before you ask, I also want to save Brendan for later

[manic kiln]

nah you're good no need to sorry, just an advice

[frosty axle]

awesome gratz 👍

[keen jasper]

Who are you doing again?

[verbal karma]

R1 Bruno

[manic kiln]

you have enough options for other fights, beside you don't have any other special dps, no lodge sycamore

[keen jasper]

What's your team?

[verbal karma]

Blaine/Gardenia/Sycamore

[keen jasper]

Are you saving Mallow?

[manic kiln]

mallow 1 team, victor 1 team, sserika 1 team, stall with ssleaf, gardenia + brendan 1 team. that's 5

[verbal karma]

I sure am

[keen jasper]

Does Gardenia have CS2?

[manic kiln]

you still need team for who? agatha and?

[pliant zinc]

Agatha and Bruno please

[verbal karma]

she sure does

[pliant zinc]

i want to make 12k500 for the first time ahaha and i dont have recommanded unit for the fly and ghost type

[manic kiln]

you can offtype

which one did you use already

[verbal karma]

I tried to off-type with Mewtwo...that obviously didn't work either...

[manic kiln]

no i'm replying to Mylinos

[verbal karma]

oh

[void wyvern]

For Agatha, use Shauntal, Renegade Cynthia, and Torchic/Sabrina

[manic kiln]

but for you build your team base on this

mallow 1 team, victor 1 team, sserika 1 team, stall with ssleaf, gardenia + brendan 1 team. that's 5

yeah ssrcynthia is great, for dps allister or fantina is good too

you can use cmarnie for bruno

[pliant zinc]

cynthia ex, Bea and Hop ; xerneas, timmy fairy and Dianthéa

[void wyvern]

Yeah, Just chuck CMarnie at it. Use Skyla, CMarnie, and Cbede.

[pliant zinc]

Sorry I take my time to translate the characters ahaha I know their name in French not in English

[manic kiln]

oh lol

[pliant zinc]

ahahaha

[old orchid]

Are you familiar with Pokemon name in English? If yes we can switch to Pokemon mame rather than trainer name

[pliant zinc]

A little more yes haha thank you

[pliant zinc]

Shauntal doesn't have a sync orbs I don't have any more could I replace her with who?

[verbal karma]

damn

alright, so I changed the grid a bit

replaced the second Speeding Sun with more Leaf Storm buffs

most importantly, one of those buffs is an Accuracy increase

now I can beat Bruno...but then the sides destroy Blaine and Gardenia 😦

[manic kiln]

round 3 bruno: skyla (swanna) cmarnie (moltres) cbede (articuno) should be easy
round 4 agatha: ssr cynthia (giratina) + fantina (drifblim) or allister (gengar) + leaf (eevee) or ssblue for support
round 5: bertha (hippowdon) + olivia (lycanroc) or emmet (archeops) + hilbert (samurott) for support

[old orchid]

I think the most important thing you should follow is this advice trin

[verbal karma]

but I am trying to save Brendan for a different team

[manic kiln]

but you have enough to build 5 teams

[old orchid]

[keen jasper]

@verbal karma

My Gardenia has Dauntless

And she's only 4*

[verbal karma]

my Gardenia is 5* and has CS2

but has Sunny Disposition to make up for it

[manic kiln]

tho doable this looks painful

[pliant zinc]

thank you so much i will try with your team

[void wyvern]

Good luck!

[keen jasper]

Gyro Ball hurts Sycamore badly

[verbal karma]

it sure does

[keen jasper]

Parameters also play a huge effect

Mine could be different from yours

Do you want to know my parameters?

[verbal karma]

sure

meanwhile, I'll try to do it with my team again, mainly because I finally had SOME progress there

[keen jasper]

Sorry for the spam

Maybe I can also record a footage on how I did it

[verbal karma]

alright, now I got worse results again, so lemme try your parameters instead

[calm grove]

i'm on th tracker website thingy and is there any way to like change the like grid lvl on mobile

[verbal karma]

jesus christ, Gyro Ball does HOW MUCH damage?!

yeah, no

those parameters are even worse

[keen jasper]

Unlucky

[manic kiln]

tap on the hexagon

[keen jasper]

My Sycamore survived Gyro Ball

[swift swan]

full attack truther! I knew you were based, Caster

[keen jasper]

Probably because Bruno used Gyro Ball before his sync

[keen jasper]

Nah, I was using Trin's team

[calm grove]

omg it was that obviou

[verbal karma]

my Sycamore...technically survived one Gyro Ball as well

but the Body Slam that followed after killed him

and there was nothing I could do about it

[keen jasper]

Seems I need to record footage then

[verbal karma]

I doubt that will help me

[keen jasper]

We shall see

[verbal karma]

eh, I already changed my parameters back to what I previously had...albeit with one difference

I decided to keep "No Stat Reduction" instead of "Max HP ^2"

maybe that will help

[swift swan]

Gyro ball deals big damage on Sycamore because of two things:

• Sycamore's weak to Steel (obvious)
• Gyro Ball's power is doubled if the target's speed is raised

so if you sync with Sycamore (and why wouldn't you), I wouldn't be surprised if Gyro Ball kills

[keen jasper]

That goddamn Bulldoze

[swift swan]

ha

[keen jasper]

He did it twice actually

[low linden]

Wonder if there's a 12.5k F2p clear

Or at least a budget clear

[swift swan]

well, yes

#1011675077764456519

[verbal karma]

okay, replacing "Max HP ^2" with "No Stat Reduction" did the trick!

[keen jasper]

Well, good for you

[low linden]

Ah not by zinfogel

[swift swan]

why are you always so keen with using max HP

[verbal karma]

thanks for the idea, though

[swift swan]

I notice it always gives you trouble

[low linden]

Oh I meant the grass cs

[swift swan]

I'm sure you can find plenty on youtube too. I know thegamingeevee does f2p clears every week

[low linden]

Stop taking max hp unless your tank can really handle it

Or u plan to toxic stall

[verbal karma]

hmm...should I use the Round 2 gimmick on Lorelei for poisoning or Bertha for confusions?

[low linden]

Lorelei

[verbal karma]

aight

[low linden]

Hey maybe u should see other clears here and try to replicate it

[keen jasper]

What's your team then?

[low linden]

From there learn team building

[swift swan]

I'd say stop taking max HP unless your damage dealer can nuke it or just have beeg DPS

[keen jasper]

Learn to make your own parameters too

[low linden]

A lot of the times

Offense is the best defense

Kill before get killed

[swift swan]

it really depends on everyone's personal comfort. that's why we have parameter recommendations for various playstyles

of course, I think masochist hyper offensive presync is the best and I will die on that hill

[verbal karma]

my Lorelei team involves SS Leaf

[low linden]

Also Bertha u don't want her to keep her sandstorm ever

U will suffer heavily

[keen jasper]

The first time I did MM, I didn't even know there's a guide for parameters yet my first MM clear on Sinnoh CS was 7.9k

[swift swan]

easily stallable then

[manic kiln]

when something didn't work try to change things (parameters, team....), don't fish for rng or blindly retrying over and over, it's a waste of time this is not LG

[verbal karma]

probably teamed up with Janine

[low linden]

Yes those are the cores

[keen jasper]

You're gonna stall?

[swift swan]

Lorelei seems to be the easiest to stall

[verbal karma]

yeah

[keen jasper]

You have lots of good grass damage dealers, why stall?

[low linden]

Lorelei best strat is actually stall

[calm grove]

help i'm struggling i can download the picture on tracker on mobile💀

[low linden]

She's more weak to poison

[manic kiln]

tbh just suggest the most braindead team if possible so stall is great

[swift swan]

stall is braindead nowadays

2.5k stall is piss easy

[low linden]

As for Bertha u don't let her have a single turn of sandstorm

So pick a sunny day sync pair

[keen jasper]

Need SS Erika for Bertha

[verbal karma]

alright, R2 Lorelei seems to be perfect for a poison stall team centered around SS Leaf

so I am just gonna do that

and after that, I will have to decide between R3 Bertha and R3 Grimsley

[swift swan]

be careful with whover you fight R4, half sync countdown can be deadly

[low linden]

Sometimes don't just look at parameters and know your enemies and what strong gimmicks they have/ are good against them

[keen jasper]

Have you planned exactly who you'll do at R4?

[swift swan]

I'd say Bertha is slightly more annoying R4 because her postsync TM raises crit for all allies

[keen jasper]

What I usually do on the half sync CD round is use both the -1 nad -2 sync CD parameters

[mellow linden]

Honestly figure out who you're doing round 4 1st, that's gonna be the toughest round regardless

Half-Sync parameter is dumb

[swift swan]

kicking myself because I forgot to take these free params smh

[keen jasper]

I feel like half sync wants you to take the non-strength and HP parameters

[low linden]

my pool is wide so I can brute force most stuff

But yeah

[manic kiln]

don't recommend doing bertha r4

[low linden]

Don't Bertha r4

[manic kiln]

i mean you can but better not

[keen jasper]

I totally didn't do Bertha on R4

[manic kiln]

[crystal notch]

so for grass cs, what's the recommended rounds for everyone

ngl I doubt I can do 7.5k

unless I stall

[low linden]

R2 is lorelei for sure

[calm grove]

is there any way to beat loralai with loppuny i want it to feel useful

[keen jasper]

More like you plan who you want for R4

[mellow linden]

Depends on your teams, pretty much

[keen jasper]

Are you thinking of off-typing?

[manic kiln]

that's regular cs

[calm grove]

it's fighting hen it megas

[mellow linden]

Only "hard" placement I can think of is a recommendation of "no Bertha on Round 4"

[keen jasper]

Ah

I guess I'm the odd one for actually doing Bertha on R4

[swift swan]

no bertha R4 unless you have a fantastic nuker to oneshot first sync then by all means do anyone R4

[crystal notch]

my only on-type option is gardenia

[mellow linden]

Regarding Fighting weak Lorelei, if you really want to make Spring May work you probably can with the right team

[keen jasper]

I did have SS Erika tho

[swift swan]

I did Bertha R4 too. ss erika OHKO'd with her nuke first sync, it wasn't even funny

I only EX'd her the day before lmao

[keen jasper]

@crystal notch Do you have BP Clemont?

[crystal notch]

no, the question is should I get him?

[mellow linden]

But unless you really want to use Spring May as your damage-dealer you're better of running her as a "Support" and not using her Sync

[crystal notch]

I have...three tickets now

[keen jasper]

Oh wait, who doing regular CS Lorelei?

[crystal notch]

for 4*

[swift swan]

sycamore can do decent numbers with horn leech. there's lodge sycamore too, which you can proooobably speedrun if you don't have him yet. solar beam silver is decent

[crystal notch]

not me!

[keen jasper]

[crystal notch]

I nuked lorelei 2.5k

[keen jasper]

Hmmmm ok then

[mellow linden]

WinterWyvern, I'm pretty sure

[crystal notch]

yeah I'm speedrunning him rn

[mellow linden]

They were asking about Spring May

[crystal notch]

currently at level 27

[keen jasper]

Yeah, my question applies to them

Or if they used him, Maylene instead

Also, I used half HP parameter on Lorelei on my F2P clear

[crystal notch]

silver no EX

big sad

[swift swan]

it's fine, you don't need it

[crystal notch]

but yeah I'll plan out a rough team

and come back

[swift swan]

EX doesn't do anything for solar beam grid

[crystal notch]

easier to give feedback on an existing team right

[swift swan]

he's 20/20 for free, that's what's important

[crystal notch]

true

[swift swan]

absolutely!

and we appreciate it too if people put in the effort to plan teams themselves. it's a better learning experience than being spoonfed teams

[crystal notch]

gimme some time since I need to go back do work LMAO
can't spend too much time theorizing when I still need to wait for sycamore lodge

[crystal notch]

yeah, I appreciate yall's help

[swift swan]

no worries, take your time

[keen jasper]

Better too if people can learn to make their own parameters

[crystal notch]

and I am learning for myself

[mellow linden]

Exactly why I generally just give damage-dealer recommendations when people are asking about Hard Mode

[swift swan]

this does require more time but once you get the hang of it, CS becomes so easy.

[verbal karma]

alright, R2 done, now I need to decide on who'd benefit more from the R3 gimmick

[swift swan]

just decide who to do R4

that's the most important

[mellow linden]

Decide round 4 1st

[swift swan]

R3 can be the leftover

[verbal karma]

ah

[swift swan]

it's between Bertha and Grismley right? both are physical oriented anyway, no one to avoid R3

[mellow linden]

Half-Sync parameter generally requires more planning

[verbal karma]

yup

[keen jasper]

I could've killed Bertha on R4 before her sync if my Brendan was gridded

[verbal karma]

well, I at least already have a proper team for Bertha: Mallow/SS Erika/Lyra

Brendan would be either R4 or R5, and the remaining round would be done by...uh...Victor, I guess

[keen jasper]

But my Brendan stays at 2/5

[crystal notch]

why isn't grass cs round params pinned btw

unlike normal cs

[swift swan]

yikes

[swift swan]

the round parameters? it's on pins

[crystal notch]

in the images is it?

[swift swan]

the round parameters are in the infographic already

[keen jasper]

And let's not forget the least important thing, me not having Hilbert after 1 year of playing

[crystal notch]

yeah my fault, was looking only at text

[verbal karma]

the sunsetter for Brendan's team would then be...either Anni Raihan or Gordie...

[swift swan]

no worries, I only got Phoebe a few weeks ago after over 1.5 years

[keen jasper]

[verbal karma]

literally no idea what kinda team to form around Victor, tho

[swift swan]

I hope you get him soon! such a busted unit

[swift swan]

just a faster crit buffer

since he maxes attack with one click

Hop or whatever

[keen jasper]

I got 2/5 Hugh before I got 1/5 Hilbert

[swift swan]

lmao I still got no Hugh

[verbal karma]

hmm...wait...I have an idea!

[keen jasper]

Victor needs a crit buffer

[verbal karma]

R4 Grimsley

using Victor

teamed up with SS Elesa

...or is that too risky?

[keen jasper]

Syncing on the 2nd turn?

[verbal karma]

yeah

[keen jasper]

That's a nice strat

[swift swan]

hmmmm

the thing is

what move level is victor

[verbal karma]

helps that SS Elesa is also EX'd

[verbal karma]

haha, ha
one

[swift swan]

I'm not sure he can OHKO Bertha

[swift swan]

I doubt you can get two syncs in

unless you get a lot of Breathtaking MPR procs

[keen jasper]

I think the plan is to OHKO with G-Max Drum Solo

[swift swan]

If you sync with an EX support, Bertha will sync before you can reach your second

[swift swan]

ehhhh

at 1/5?

[verbal karma]

I mean, I have Breathtaking MPR, at least

[swift swan]

I'm not that convinced

[verbal karma]

and I have seen Breathtaking MPR proccing a couple times

[swift swan]

good luck fishing for it

I'd rather use a tech nuker

and nuke first sync

[mellow linden]

It's Grimsley, not Bertha

[keen jasper]

YOLO parameters without strength and HP could potentially work and quadqueueing Drum Beating

Oh wait

[mellow linden]

Which means SS Elesa will probably die to Sync

[swift swan]

ah right

[keen jasper]

Are talking about Grimsley or Bertha at R4?

[swift swan]

SS Elesa will die to sync either way,, her HP is not great

[verbal karma]

ah, I already using SS Leaf
and sadly, both Mallow and SS Erika are already reserved

[swift swan]

grimsley, my bad

[verbal karma]

which means that my only other Grass-type techie left is regular Erika

[swift swan]

mayhaps, if you can reduce the bulk as much as possible...

[keen jasper]

Yeah, I think G-Max Drum Solo can OHKO Grimsley with a support sync EX buff

[swift swan]

worth a try I guess

[verbal karma]

well, I can't try it right now anyway

I gotta do R3 Bertha first :p

[calm grove]

i was planning on using summer may and detective steven and just nuking it

[swift swan]

Physical and Special shields
Max sync countdown 1 and 2
Full attack
sync buff 5
strength 1
Both Power on Hit
No status and interference
tech sync pairs take x3 damage
No stat reduction
ally healing down
gradual healing at start
special dmg reduction
can't change zone/weather/terrain
ally move gauge -2
standard dmg reduction

[calm grove]

i was just thinking whos a good atk buff tanky support

[swift swan]

that should be 2.5k with as few HP and strength as possible

[swift swan]

this is also insanely risky on R4 lmao

[keen jasper]

It's possible to do it without strength and HP parameters at all

[swift swan]

I was missing 100 points so I took strength 1

[keen jasper]

Like what I usually do

[swift swan]

what's your params?

[mellow linden]

Crit is the concern, Spring May maxes her Attack after her 1st Sync

[keen jasper]

Hmmmm wait, I only remember my half sync CD round parameters for 2k

[mellow linden]

And she won't be dealing big damage before her 1st Sync anyways

[calm grove]

how does she max atk

[mellow linden]

Read her kit

[calm grove]

ohhhhh

[verbal karma]

a

Lyra can't seem to tank well

[keen jasper]

Both Dmg. Reduction
Both Max Sync Countdown
Atk. & Sp. Atk. +3 and +5
No Status Condition
Strike/Tech Sync Pairs Take x3 More Damage
Sync Buff +5
No Stat Reduction
Ally Healing -5
Both Power On Hit
Physical or Special Damage Reduction 8
Gradual Healing at Start
Ally HP at Start -5
Ally Move Gauge Max -2
Standard Damage Reduction

@swift swan

This would be my half sync CD round parameters

[crystal notch]

Ok question: how do yall figure out if a CS mid does AoE on sync

[keen jasper]

You don't, mid always does AoE sync

[crystal notch]

I see

[keen jasper]

No matter what the stage

[rose ermine]

Why does this always happen

Just when i need the final attack sserika dies

[crystal notch]

I mostly pre sync so I didn't really notice (Except for fragile zinnia not/barely surviving post sync)

[keen jasper]

Do you have Tech Sync Pairs Take x3 More Damage parameter?

[rose ermine]

No

They have +1 crit so they guaranteed crit Erika all the time

[keen jasper]

That's probably why

You have kill Bertha before she syncs

[rose ermine]

Ok

[keen jasper]

Also, is your weather sandstorm when she syncs?

[rose ermine]

No,i constantly spam sun

[tired sleet]

Question, what’s lucian doing there?

[keen jasper]

I'm guessing speed buff for SS Erika

And also attack debuff

[tired sleet]

Right

[keen jasper]

Also, holy hell my 2/5 ungridded Victor can't handle max HP Bruno

Tho my Lodge Gloria's theme skills are still not upgraded

And my Victor has CS1

[verbal karma]

damn, I already can't beat R3 Bertha

[keen jasper]

What's the team?

[verbal karma]

Lyra/SS Erika/Mallow

[dark osprey]

Oh I did her with the exact same team. Though lyra was EXed

[keen jasper]

Replace Lyra for a defense buffer

Are you using Mallow's Trop Kick too?

[crystal notch]

Whitney is for flinches, honestly I doubt mayziken's team would survive that long
Also no lodge Sycamore yet
Feedback needed

[sand karma]

Struggled the most with Cerena
Took a zillion tries then i 3xd her then it took a couple more

Support meta ftw

[crystal notch]

yeah, roast my terrible teambuilding ways

I'm not sure rosa would survive (I've been using sycamore for poison stall)

I can ex her if needed

[keen jasper]

You're seriously going to off-type?

[crystal notch]

no, that's simply a just in case team

[keen jasper]

Also, evolve Rowlet

[crystal notch]

I haven't raised gardenia but I don't mind raising her

[keen jasper]

Unless you're like Ash

[crystal notch]

LMAO

[keen jasper]

[crystal notch]

I got her recently iirc

hmm, give me a sec

lemme slot rowlet and gardenia...somewhere

[keen jasper]

Gardenia needs sun

[crystal notch]

...I only have one blaine

lemme filter

yeah no

only blaine showed up

on sunny filtwr

LMAO

[keen jasper]

It's fine

[crystal notch]

how cursed would a gardenia-silver-blaine team be

tank wher

[keen jasper]

That team will easily die to 2 o 3 AoEs

[crystal notch]

sounds about right, big L

uhhhh name a buffer for selene

should I move cbede

to selene team

selene is currently something like... selene-ssa cynthia - buffer needed

[keen jasper]

Any physical buffer is fine for Selene, but she also has speed multipliers so maybe a speed buffer

[crystal notch]

...skyla?

winona?

move giocat?

[keen jasper]

Her

But Selene only has +2 crit so she needs someone to complete it

[crystal notch]

...yeah, no idea who to do that

[keen jasper]

And Selene has restrain multipliers

[crystal notch]

ssa cynthia's buffs are entirely defensive

[crystal notch]

what are restrain multipliers

[keen jasper]

Hold Hostage 5 for her

She needs to use Spirit Shackle for restrain

[crystal notch]

ah

alternatively, there's always moving sc steven

but then skyla's tanking?!

[keen jasper]

Use your best units, nothing wrong with that

[keen jasper]

Skyla can tank physical fights like Bruno or Grimsley

[crystal notch]

yeah I haven't looked at her def/sp def stats

so sycamore is now missing a team member

...I can always slot a bad poison e.g. lucy

Will evolve rowlet later

[crystal notch]

last team if not offtype will probably wait on lodge sycamore

[verbal karma]

alright, with R4 finally done, now comes the big question

what round gimmick to use for R5?

[mellow linden]

What team are you using?

[verbal karma]

Brendan + sunsetter + support

sunsetter is either Anni Raihan or Gordie

support is either Lyra or Rosa

[trail smelt]

Gordie has Sun? Huh

[mellow linden]

Only from Max Move

[late grove]

yeah

[trail smelt]

Ah ok

[old orchid]

the tank you need is the one can buff spdef

Serena hits really hard

[mellow linden]

I guess if Gordie and A. Raihan are the only Sun setters you have then A. Raihan would be better

And for round parameter, round 1 or 2 is best depending on whether you have a way to work around the round 1 parameter’s quadqueue interference, IMO

[swift swan]

oooh half ally HP. interesting

[crystal notch]

So, what order should I do them?

As in, which team for which round

I don't know if I can even do 7.5k here

[verbal karma]

oh god

my R5 team isn't working 😦

[old orchid]

[verbal karma]

yeah, I know

I am using SC Jasmine for that

but the problem is

even with the first sync from the EX support and a sun buff, the second sync from Brendan can't kill Serena

[mellow linden]

What parameters and is it also with an A. Raihan buff?

[verbal karma]

R2 parameters

and yes, it's with an A. Raihan buff

[mellow linden]

I mean point parameters

If “No Stat Reductions” is turned on and your SC Jasmine is 3/5 then it’d probably be worth it to switch that to something else and utilize Jasmine’s Sp. Def. debuffs

[verbal karma]

oh, here are my parameters then:

>Phys. Dmg. Red.
>Spec. Dmg. Red.
>Def & Sp. Def ^1
>No Status Conditions
>Interference Immunity
>Sync Buff ^5
>No Stat Reduction
>Ally Healing v5
>Power ^ on Hit 1
>Grad. Healing
>Power ^ on Hit 2
>Strength ^3
>Ally MG Max -2
>Standard Dmg Red 8
>Strength ^6

and my SC Jasmine is only 2/5

[mellow linden]

How close do you normally get?

[verbal karma]

Serena has, like, 25% HP left, I think?

[mellow linden]

Wait

I think I know the problem

What’s Brendan’s Speed buffs at when he Syncs?

[pliant zinc]

Thank you so much omg

[verbal karma]

...oh yeah, I don't think anything is buffing Brendan's speed 💀

[mellow linden]

Do you have Lodge Dawn?

[verbal karma]

nope

[manic kiln]

Grats, those are OP teams anyway so you should be good

[old orchid]

Brendan has Amped Up 1 in his grid

[mellow linden]

Yeah, gonna have to do Amped Up in grid then

[pliant zinc]

It's true ahaha I had to do a few tries to feel good and it went away on its own! The hardest part is choosing the right penalties

[verbal karma]

oh heck, I don't have enough energy to grid Amped Up 1

[mellow linden]

Then redo the grid, make a new preset or adjust an existing one if all are in use

[verbal karma]

I mean, the problem is: I don't know what I could remove to make room for Amped Up

[old orchid]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/1900/25400?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFERQXGBkbKCotLw

just do something like this

[mellow linden]

Pretty much exactly what I was gonna send, lol

Just a different Sync BP tile picked

[old orchid]

[mellow linden]

Anyway, if Brendan still isn't working then adjust the parameters to get rid of Standard Damage Reduction and off-type

[verbal karma]

oh no, that requires me to remove 2 of my 3 sync buff grids

that's not good

[old orchid]

[mellow linden]

It's better than not having Inertia at all

You lose 50 base power in exchange for nearly doubling the Sync's base power by the time it goes off

I fail to see the downside

[verbal karma]

DAMN

[pliant zinc]

Is this the right place to talk about the special match of passio (with serena) ?

[verbal karma]

I could have won this one

but then the quadqueue failed 😦

god, I hate quadqueing so much

[mellow linden]

Yep, it's a CS variant

[pliant zinc]

Ok perfect

[rotund lagoon]

Are you playing on a faster speed by chance?

[verbal karma]

no

I just suck at it in general

and R5 wants me to do TWO of them

[rotund lagoon]

Have you been practicing it? Maybe there’s something you might be missing

[verbal karma]

I tried practicing it

but I could NEVER get better at it

[mellow linden]

Wait, what move level is A. Raihan, perchance?

[verbal karma]

3/5

[old orchid]

Grid Sandstorm Propulsion 9

[minor mauve]

I offtyped so hard on this event

[mellow linden]

That is one good option, yes

Eliminates one of the quadqueues

[rotund lagoon]

Let’s not post these while someone’s being helped, k?

[minor mauve]

K

[verbal karma]

...err...I should prolly explain what quadqueues I am talking about

[mellow linden]

Other things to consider:

1. Mind Boggler 9 and adjust parameters to turn of "No Stat Reductions"

2. Twister Aggravation and try for turn denial

[mellow linden]

1 after SC Jasmine's Sync and 1 after A. Raihan's Max Move

[verbal karma]

so the first quadqueue I am doing is with SC Jasmine's sync, who needs both quadqueue AND Adrenaline at the same time

[mellow linden]

Sandstorm Propulsion 9 gets rid of the 1st

[old orchid]

And Sandstorm Propulsion fixes both actually

[verbal karma]

since A. Raihan's max move does not spend sync countdown

the second quadqueue is for Brendan's sync, actually

since Brendan's sync is JUST short of killing Serena

[mellow linden]

Just offtype if you can't KO the center with Brendan's Sync even after the re-gridding

[verbal karma]

I'd rather try to make Brendan work, though

[mellow linden]

Why

[verbal karma]

because I am so close already

[mellow linden]

Alright

[rotund lagoon]

The best way I can explain quadqueue is just queuing two moves immediately after queuing max or sync. Playing on the slowest speed while doing that helps.

[verbal karma]

I already play on the slowest speed all the time

it doesn't help in the slightest

[old orchid]

Skill issue then

SC Jasmine has no way to ruin quad queue

How about gridding Sandstorm Propulsion

That straight up fixes quad queue problem

[verbal karma]

well, yeah, she doesn't, her quadqueue, I can actually do 75% of the time

[rotund lagoon]

It takes no resources to regrid a grid that has been filled, doesn’t hurt to do it.

[verbal karma]

it's Brendan's quadqueue that fails for me for some reasons

[proud axle]

Was Brendan EX?

[rotund lagoon]

Brendan? How does he make quadqueuing hard?

Does he have Dauntless?

[proud axle]

If Brendan is EX, you can let his splash damage wipe out the left enemy on turn 4

[mellow linden]

Is Sun running out?

[proud axle]

And that will net you a KO denial

[pliant zinc]

In plant type I am completely useless I think, in off type with my box it can pass? Do you have any ideas for composition please I still have trouble projecting myself and I'm afraid of using too many good characters at once to find myself blocked afterwards

[proud axle]

Oh, maybe turn1 Sun is expiring at the moment of the sync

[pliant zinc]

for the special CS

[mellow linden]

Are you doing Master Mode or just trying to generally clear the stages for gems?

[proud axle]

Three of the bosses are weak to poison stall, everyone gets two powerful Grass attackers (Xerneas and Ho-oh)

[verbal karma]

nope

[verbal karma]

he sure does

[proud axle]

Then the next thing to ask is the question about the timing of the Sun

Does it end right before you sync?

[rotund lagoon]

When is Sun being set? First turn after a sync cycle?

[verbal karma]

...well, Sun was blinking, but not gone when I did the sync

[old orchid]

Use Max Flare when the sync countdown reachs 6 after the first sync

[proud axle]

So it didn't actually expire until after the sync impacted, huh...

[verbal karma]

no, the sun is still there after the sync

it's just that...my finger is simply not fast enough

and there's nothing I can do to actually make my finger faster either

it's just...inheritly on the slow side

it's just...built that way

[proud axle]

Then I'd consider going for a left-side denial instead of a quadqueue

Which fight was this?

[verbal karma]

Serena

[rotund lagoon]

Hey Giga

They have Anni Raihan 3/5

Gakon suggested Sandstorm Propulsion 9

[proud axle]

I barely know how ARaihan works

[mellow linden]

Could try adjusting parameters for Mind Boggler use as well

[verbal karma]

I...actually don't know how Sandstorm Propulsion is supposed to help, actually

[mellow linden]

Squeeze out a tiny bit more Leaf Storm damage

[mellow linden]

Eliminates need for the 1st quadqueue

[verbal karma]

since I only use SC Jasmine's quadqueue in combination with Adrenaline to get around Max Flare not counting towards the sync countdown

[proud axle]

Let's see, Serena's sidekicks... Have more than the usual amount of HP, actually

[verbal karma]

not really

I would still need it for Max Flare anyway

[mellow linden]

Adrenaline + Propulsion = -2 Sync

[proud axle]

Do you think maybe you could have Brendan nuke the left sidekick instead of the boss for the denial?

[mellow linden]

Counters both not quadqueueing and using Max Flare

[proud axle]

And make sure to intentionally queue something before the sync, so that the left sidekick has something in the queue to be canceled by their defeat

[verbal karma]

hmm...sadly, that doesn't counter Brendan's quadqueue

which is harder for me to do than SC Jasmine's quadqueue

and I just don't know why

[mellow linden]

But it eliminates 1 of the 2

[verbal karma]

it eliminates the easier one, though

I would have preferred if it eliminated the harder one tbh

[mellow linden]

And you may be able to adjust parameters to squeeze out more Leaf Storm damage via Mind Boggler 9

[proud axle]

What is killing you, by the way. Is it Serena herself or is it the sidekicks afterward

[verbal karma]

Serena

I just don't survive her sync

[rotund lagoon]

Did we ask what params are being used?

[mellow linden]

Yes

[proud axle]

How much HP does she tend to have left? Half? More?

[mellow linden]

This

[proud axle]

(And who is the Support, again?)

[mellow linden]

SC Jasmine/A. Raihan/Brendan is the team they're using

[rotund lagoon]

Is that pre-sync?

[proud axle]

Ugh, I don't even know how two-thirds of those pairs operate

[verbal karma]

after Brendan's sync? like, 5-10% left

[mellow linden]

I think making some adjustments to allow Mind Boggler to activate as well as using Sandstorm Propulsion 9 can maybe squeeze out a little more damage

[verbal karma]

which is why I need Brendan's quadqueue

[pliant zinc]

Master mode

[mellow linden]

Because letting Mind Boggler activate also means Trap damage

[verbal karma]

wait, who has Mind Boggler again?

[proud axle]

Do you hit her with two Brendan Syncs or just one?

[mellow linden]

How many points per stage?

[mellow linden]

A. Raihan in grid

[verbal karma]

ah, found it

[proud axle]

Also what other grass attackers remain, and what other supports remain

[pliant zinc]

as much as possible

[mellow linden]

Have you done Master Mode before this?

[proud axle]

2k per stage is pretty easy if you know what you're doing. A Toxic Stall can get you an easy 2.5k for at least one stage

[proud axle]

Hmm...

Don't suppose you have Maxie?

(and still available)

[mellow linden]

They want to make Brendan work

[proud axle]

Yes. Dual strike with Brendan.

[old orchid]

How about making a duo with Brendan and Maxie?

[proud axle]

Remember, I like dual strikes

[mellow linden]

Fair enough

[rotund lagoon]

Or Silver if not Maxie

[proud axle]

Maxie brings entry sun, Lyra extends sun with EX Support sync, they land KO denials to buy turns, and then Brendan brings it home with his nuke

[pliant zinc]

I've already done the classic league a lot of times but never this kind of special league

[proud axle]

Maxie can do a fun thing where he uses DH+ on turn 1, Lyra-TM-buffed Solarbeam on Turn 2, his own TM on turn 3, and then SE Up Next with Support EX massively amplifying his Solarbeam on Turn 4

This allows him a massive hit on the left sidekick. Maybe not enough to OHKO, but big enough to contribute towards the denial

You do have to worry a little about Satisfied Snarl debuffing Maxie's SpAtk. Be sure to time his second TM well.

This all depends on them having Maxie, even at 1/5.