Champion Stadium

[fringe trail]

erm, she's vulnerable to poison status

[grand pond]

grief

Okay thank u

[trail smelt]

Water… might work

[grand pond]

I don't want Bertha r4 at all LMAO

[manic kiln]

imagine ground and fairy

[trail smelt]

I lack Archie and LySSandre tho

[trail smelt]

Oh god

[fringe trail]

tfw you have to use fuking Mudsdale for DPS

[trail smelt]

Definitely offtyping most of the fights lol

[drifting sleet]

Who's the hardest this time

[manic kiln]

serena of course

[trail smelt]

Hard to say

[manic kiln]

bertha close 2nd

[fringe trail]

Serena by far

[trail smelt]

Bruno was the most annoying for me

[fringe trail]

she's designed to be fought with Celebi

[drifting sleet]

Can I offtype triple birb her

[trail smelt]

But that’s on me and my trash team LMAO

[manic kiln]

triple bird is overkill

spread them out

[grand pond]

oops

[fringe trail]

unless u didn't use birbs at all

in which case go nuts I guess

[trail smelt]

Oh wait Naomi exists

[grand pond]

I'm trying to eons + deoxys on lorelei but it's not working out for me lmao

[trail smelt]

3/5 ground team ready haha

[manic kiln]

she needs sand tho

[fringe trail]

Lorelei hits semi-hard so u kinda have to outlast her if you're not on-type DPSing her

[grand pond]

you're telling me

the surf spam tilts me

[fringe trail]

and you still have to deal with Rock Slide/Blizzard after

[grand pond]

the more I'm starting to feel burnt out from trying to 12k these already

[manic kiln]

take a break, do 1 battle/day, this event lasts 2 weeks anyway

[grand pond]

I will do my best..

[trail smelt]

I mean it is ground haha

Hmm

[manic kiln]

I probably try to do an all MF clear for fun

[trail smelt]

Does Clay hit ok ontype?

[manic kiln]

he's better than hapu

[trail smelt]

Damned by faint praise huh

[spring fable]

How are these teams?

[trail smelt]

Which one are you fielding against who?

[shrewd oyster]

I'm a clay truther he's actually very good but needs a lot of love and a bit of luck

before i had cynthia I used him as my main striker and I thought he performed very well

[trail smelt]

Ah that’s good to hear

[spring fable]

I dont understand

[trail smelt]

Which team is used against which opponent I mean

On different note, anybody else dumb like me and did full grass monotype? Lol

[verbal karma]

aw hell naw, regular CS has increased point thresholds, too

now I need to somehow reach 12k there as well

[manic kiln]

last week was 12k5 too or did you just skip it

[verbal karma]

I didn't have the Kanto medal yet last week

[trail smelt]

Ah ok

[verbal karma]

I only just now got the Kanto medal

well, for regular CS, I at least already have 5 set teams that I just need to...somehow find fitting parameters for

meanwhile, for the Special CS, I got nothing

[manic kiln]

wait let me check when was the last time kanto was running, you've been playing for that long and never do kanto cs

[verbal karma]

I have been only doing Hard/Master CS since, like, October or November last year, I think?

[manic kiln]

last kanto was october 2022

[verbal karma]

maybe even September last year

[manic kiln]

[verbal karma]

okay, was November then

yeah, I definitely started Hard/Master CS last November then

so don't expect me to have the experience that you guys have

[manic kiln]

kek so you started at the very beginning of a new cycle, it makes sense now

probably no alola too

[verbal karma]

lemme check what medals I have

[manic kiln]

last alola was in july so a long time ago

[verbal karma]

nope, no Alola

I have:

Kanto (got it today)
Johto
Unova
Sinnoh
Hoenn
Kalos

so everything except Alola, essentially

anyway, back on the topic of Special CS, how salvagable is this selection of Grass-types?

[trail smelt]

Oh you don’t have Lodge Sycamore yet?

Anyway I can see 3-4 solid teams from your grass cores. Do you have any of the OP units like the rats, frogs, or birbs?

[spring fable]

Honestly, I dont know yet, I’m just building teams around my grass types

[trail smelt]

Well Bertha depends on sandstorm, so you want to send a Sun team her way

[plush tangle]

funny moment where high horserpower one shoted my erika

[trail smelt]

Oof

[plush tangle]

until i realized i had tech damage x3

triple tech team
uses tech damage x3
big brain time

[trail smelt]

That poor flower got trampled

[azure ivy]

Any advice for new paramters?

[plush tangle]

choice band 252+ sand force hippowdon under sand high horse power vs 252 hp / 252+ vileplume at +3 : dozillion damage

[manic mica]

i ended up offtyping two fights grass without ss lyra is meh

[trail smelt]

Oh that reminds me what was Cerena’s gimmick again?

[old orchid]

spatk debuff and hitting hard

[shrewd oyster]

objectively who is the worst fight in pasio csmm
I'm thinking either serena (of course) or bruno

I'm wondering who i should off-type with marnie/throw sycamore at

[halcyon sail]

I tanked the water shuriken, but I did use 2 busted supports for that fight, CBede and SSBrendan

[sinful garden]

i used ex victor, pal serena and ssac for the cerena fight and i still someway struggled

[hazy tusk]

Use Grass? Ok

[sinful garden]

had to offtype lorelei because i forgot selene was weak to ice and didnt find a way to get around it

now im worried for event cs that will need less popular types

like poison or ice

[versed meteor]

What parameters are people using to off type

[hazy tusk]

I can't do a full monotype for like half the types, sadge

[grand pond]

dumbest team I have ever used but it worked LMAO

thanks much

[spring fable]

Are Bertha and grimsley the only mainly physical attackers?

[swift swan]

Poison? Stall all five stages

[swift swan]

Bruno too

Their movesets and stats are available on pomatools

[formal vigil]

Bruno too

[spring fable]

Okie! Anyone I should avoid on r4?

Half sync cd

[swift swan]

Hmmm bruno, bertha, grimsley all raise crit by 1 postsync

Except bertha does it for all allies

I suppose that's it

Nothing too dangerous

[verbal karma]

I...don't have SST Red or any of the frogs or any of the Galarian Kanto birds

...I do have Ash, tho

[swift swan]

Then that's one free win

[manic kiln]

2-3 ontype with grass, 1 stall, 1 chu team, or can do 2 stall teams

[crystal notch]

so, I should do r1 bruno with a special attacker?

[swift swan]

Why bruno? I'd say bertha because she's a menace if you try to bruteforce without changing weather

[hazy tusk]

R3 Bruno dies super easy to Gardenia lmao

Can't hurt you if he's dead

[verbal karma]

...nope

clearly, I don't have what it takes to do 12k

[undone ether]

Maaaam

Serena really stacks her speed buffs

[verbal karma]

R1 Agatha with my ghost team and 2.5k points, and my team gets annihilated

[undone ether]

Clutch clear at least lmao

[verbal karma]

..."annihilated", I say...more accurate would be "I can beat middle and right side, but the left side beats me"

and sadly, I can't beat Agatha before she syncs

since there seems to be some kind of passive that prevents me from quadqueing

[frosty axle]

I will attempt my F2P run for grass CS later this week as there is no rush

[spring fable]

With the recent addition of new Params, On type is now easier while off type difficulty is the same correct?

[manic mica]

Need help for the grimsley battle
Round 4
Here are my grass types and my supports

[old orchid]

Sonia - Lodge Gloria - a def debuffer

[manic mica]

So this can work ?

Ss leaf debuff defense and sp def

[old orchid]

yes

[manic mica]

I think

[old orchid]

level up Gloria to at least lvl 120

[manic mica]

yeah i'll i totally forgot i got her

[versed meteor]

What parameters are people using to off type the new champion stadium

[old orchid]

[full mesa]

I'm stuck at Bertha on R4.

Can't go on type

[clever breach]

Any ideas for at team for lance

[full mesa]

Sycamore/Sonia/Granbull

[manic mica]

I forgot wood hammer had recoil

[old orchid]

Pal Marnie is better than Mina

[full mesa]

Sonia buffs Granbull, Granbull drops att, Sycamore buffs SPD and abg

[manic mica]

Damn that recoil hurt

[old orchid]

Sonia - Summer Marnie - a def debuffer

[clever breach]

Tried her damage is not enough

[old orchid]

you should try again

[clever breach]

Doesnt sonia debuff def

[manic mica]

Should i pick a standfast node for gloria ?

[old orchid]

yes

its unneeded generally but it seems you are struggling with recoil

[clever breach]

Sycamore debuffs def

But alread tried that team

[manic mica]

i got 1 recoil and then grimsley synced

And i died

[old orchid]

try to beat Grimsley pre sync

[manic mica]

Kinda hard when his sync is only 3 move away when i start the battle

its round 4

[clever breach]

Is there something i need to do with summer marnie to unlock good damage

As i get 1-3 k damage per hit

And 4k on sync

[dusty yarrow]

I used a Gladion-Aaron Team against Grimsley (mainly its because its R4)

[manic mica]

Is your gladion ex

[verbal karma]

alright, was able to beat R1 Agatha with 2.5K points after all

[dusty yarrow]

yup

[manic mica]

pain

[dusty yarrow]

Its mainly a post-sync style clear

[manic mica]

Why did i decied to do grimsley round 4

[dusty yarrow]

this is the team I've used on R4 Grim

[manic mica]

My gladion isnt exed do you think i can still make it

[dusty yarrow]

It's probably doable if Gladion not EX, its going to be hard tho (probably run any available grass units you have, if you struggle)

I did 2 attempts with the team I've run (mainly cuz 1st attempt ended heartbreakingly when Ttar flinch all 3 with Rockslide)

[full mesa]

Can I poison stall Bertha on R4 without changing weather?

Because I can't go on type and she is too bulky

[wet gate]

I can’t beat Bertha here’s my logout

Load out

[manic mica]

My grass type roster isnt that good

[upbeat dragon]

i have no grass types at all.
Can someone tell me good off type stages for all these stages for 2k mm?

[manic mica]

I wish i had victor loo

[verbal karma]

welp, now I am back to struggling with R3 Bruno

[tender shore]

do we talk about the CS event here or in the events chat

[swift swan]

Here is fine

[verbal karma]

I...guess I need to use a Special Strike instead of a Physical Strike?

[swift swan]

It's still CS after all

[swift swan]

It barely matters

[verbal karma]

I mean...consider the following

I did my first sync with my EX support

[swift swan]

Unless you're doing bruno r3

[verbal karma]

then did my second sync with my EX strike

[dusty yarrow]

Idk, if this gimmicky team is a good suggestion but may I introduce you to Dawn Nuke (although, Grimsley having Snarl make this team... not ideal) I weirdly built it to heavily counter Bruno's Atk heavy team

[verbal karma]

and even after all that, ALL of my opponents are still alive

[verbal karma]

well, I am doing Bruno R3

[dusty yarrow]

although keep in mind Crit Dmg can nullify debuffs (I think)

[full mesa]

SSACynthia/SSTRed/AnniRaihan for Bertha on R4. Can't remember when was the last time I had to bring SSTRed/Ash to save my behind...

[swift swan]

Then you can use the round parameter to your advantage and bring a special attacker instead

[swift swan]

EX Ss erika + sonia + literally any third can oneshot bertha on first sync at r4, it wasn't even funny

I did not expect that from her

Sorry for sleeping on you, Erika

[verbal karma]

alright, lemme check what Flying-type Special Attackers I have

[swift swan]

Flying? Oh you're doing regular CS

[verbal karma]

yeah

[swift swan]

My bad, I thought you were talking about the grass weak one

That's why i recommended special attacks

[verbal karma]

...and this is why we need a separate thread for the Special CS >_<

[dusty yarrow]

I did attempt a Lyra Nuke on R3 Bertha

[swift swan]

for the regular CS, you can use either physical/special, doesn't matter

[verbal karma]

...well, my current team for R3 Bruno in regular CS is Winona/Palentine's Elesa/Skyla

[swift swan]

Her innate sync is rising tide right? I guess you can try raising her stats more?

[verbal karma]

Pal Elesa and Skyla are EX'd, BTW

[swift swan]

I sure hope your pal elesa has a nuke grid

And you don't click fly

And idk what Winona is for

[verbal karma]

oh, I'm not clicking Fly

I am clicking Metronome

Winona is for flinching and confusing

[swift swan]

Metronome DPS? Please don't waste your breath

[manic kiln]

i thought you have anni skyla, use her

[verbal karma]

oh, nonono

I am spamming Metronome to get to the sync faster

[swift swan]

Honestly even with the round parameter, confusion is barely going to help. Stick with air slash for the flinches

[verbal karma]

though probably no point relying on Sync nukes, considering my Pal Elesa is only 2/5

[swift swan]

That's... The problem

Pal Elesa relies on nuke

For good flying damage, at least

[verbal karma]

hmm...I got one Strike Candy, but...I dunno if it's a good idea to spend it on Pal Elesa even though I am an Elesa simp

what if someone more important needs the Strike Candy instead?

[swift swan]

Or... Change your striker?

[swift swan]

Do you have anni skyla?

[winter glen]

There's always kahili

[dusty yarrow]

It was a Post-Sync Clear team that for some reason went Pre-Sync Clear (I was a bit suprise )

[full mesa]

Don't have ex SSErika. Also I used SSErika on R1 with Lyra + something to do Brock.

[dusty yarrow]

I probably should have used my Nate against Flying Bruno cuz everyone has forgotten about him

[full mesa]

Not me. He just doesn't cut it without zone or seun

[manic kiln]

anni skyla, falker, skyla. buff with falkner so skyla can focus on flinch and dps, also you have 3 flincher very braindead team. potion, speed, you have it all

[wet gate]

Up to round 4 Bertha. Should I reset?

[verbal karma]

okay, just to see if it's really the damage type that is the problem, I tried with Kahili as the strike, and...yup, I still do as much damage with the sync as I do with Pal Elesa

...yeah, that's clearly a sign for me that I need to use a Special Strike instead

[manic kiln]

[wet gate]

Here’s what I used already

[dusty yarrow]

I always go for a Post-Sync Clear Approach on Half-Sync (R4)...

[manic mica]

Do i just restart everything ? Grimsley round 4 is litteraly impossible no matter what i try

[toxic cobalt]

Who have you got left?

[wet gate]

what is the order that u should be doing it in

[tender shore]

lol

[trail smelt]

Hurt me more

[subtle forge]

Fr how I wanna play the game

[crystal notch]

zinnia cbede winona was basically flinch rng gaming for 30 mins

for bruno

and I had to drop my params to 1250

because they sure have a lot of TMs

[tender shore]

the gray boxed options on the new Google doc means pick one of the two right?

[trail smelt]

Aye

[tender shore]

ss leaf and silver being my only grass dmg

[swift swan]

Gardenia is alright

Sycamore can actually do numbers

Lodge sycamore is free

And there's always the option of stalling

[crystal notch]

time to speedrun sycamore lodge

[tender shore]

hmm alright I'll look at them

I also have vrendand treecko I forgot about them

[swift swan]

Wants dauntless, but he's great too

[tender shore]

so what order do I wanna fight?
round 4 seems like the most important one to decide

[grand pond]

I got 12.5 both sets now

Pain.

'take a break' they said

I did have to use rats to explode lorelei before crit shield went up though. not sure how you're supposed to do it without

[dawn anchor]

I toxic stalled Lorelei

[dusty yarrow]

For me, I avoid R4-ing Bertha

[tender shore]

and I probably want to use silver or leaf on Bertha to override sandstorm (since you need to use sunny with them)

[grand pond]

yeah I used toxic for event lorelei

probably the most use sc shauna is going to get

[dawn anchor]

I used rain to beat Berta lol

[dusty yarrow]

I prepare my CS's ahead of time, like this for example (Thank You, Datamine), probably prepare a Post-Sync Clear Style Team for R4 and the rest is up to you (the order mainly depends on the team you have)
example: R2 is good for some Stall Team if running/planning one

[manic kiln]

Just did a full MF clear it’s… fun

[grand pond]

yup may is pretty aight for Bertha

I ended up having to run her with ss Brendan though. not my proudest moment

[dusty yarrow]

A win is still a win... look at me, I'm running Generics

[grand pond]

Braver than any US marine for that

my Serena fight became unstoppable milotic vs unkillable rat LMAO

cos I still had phys reduction turned on

[dusty yarrow]

I'll probably do another run in the CS Event if I have free time

[dawn anchor]

I need to do 1 more regular CS before I can easily beat the best with SS Lyra or rats

[grand pond]

I finally actually bothered to ex my ash this week

[dusty yarrow]

Would wish the future CS Event will be all Poison (cuz we rarely meet Poison Weaks) but then again my Poison Arsenal is dog💩 and my entire arsenal is not strong enough for some off-types

[grand pond]

I just offtype everything with unga bunga teams

[dusty yarrow]

5 stall teams I guess...

[grand pond]

unleash the birds or the rats or the Horrible Train Men and their emotional support magic rock on anything that irritates me enough

[dusty yarrow]

I am planning for an all off-type clear in main Kanto CS for now (kinda have to assess if atleast doable, no stall)

||which mainly me looking at others clears and look at my inventory if I have one||

[dawn anchor]

Woah I just used the Galar bird trio and that was a great offtype team

For grass event

[weak sleet]

Can Bea and ssa Cynthia clear Lorelei? Or should I use champion hop?

In regular champion stadium at 2.5k.

[proud axle]

Add a way to gain acc or reduce eva, and it should work

[swift swan]

Definitely

[proud axle]

Maylene can add acc via grid
Lisia can reduce up to 2 eva (or 4 with 2/5 grid) via Defog, though remember that it can also blow away your Fighting Zone

[swift swan]

Add a speed buffer for her multiplier

Bea can nuke mid easily

Then it's a matter of getting lucky enough to land 1-2 meteor assaults

Which shouldn't be too hard

[proud axle]

Maybe not that lucky if Maylene is the third member. +2 acc (so Bea can get 3 Meteor Assaults at 100% hitrate) and +2 speed (enough to max Inertia)

[keen jasper]

Why not bring Maylene has both accuracy buff and speed buff?

[proud axle]

Mayleeeeene

Also she gives Bea her third crit rank if you don't wanna grid for Sharp Entry

[undone ether]

Grismley is either Brendan or Lodge Gloria.

oh that was like a few hours ago

nevermind .-.

[undone ether]

did you use your Rats already? 😮

[weak sleet]

Like this?

[weak sleet]

I was planning on using them for fairy or flying. I haven't started cs yet just getting teams set up.

[proud axle]

I'd still recommend Maylene instead of Hilbert

[swift swan]

Well, perfect, that's exactly my fighting team

[proud axle]

Remember to aim your presync attacks at the sides and not at Lorelei

[swift swan]

Maylene works too ofc

[undone ether]

Oh is that for normal CS. .-.;

[weak sleet]

Yeah

[undone ether]

i thought it was for Serena's Stadium

[weak sleet]

That's another mess I'll need complete help with 😬

[proud axle]

Then Bea uses her first sync to slam Lorelei, and then with +2 acc from Maylene's grid... She won't miss until Lori has 3 eva

[weak sleet]

But I don't want to touch the special stadium until later after work.

[proud axle]

For the special Pasio stadium, if your grass roster is looking bare... Lorelei is very toxic-stallable on round 2

Ezpz 2500

[weak sleet]

My grass types

[proud axle]

You might be fine even without toxic-stalling, then.
It does remove 1/5th of the required brain effort though

[weak sleet]

Thanks!

So for regular Lorelei sync with Cynthia on Lorelei or just skip Cynthia sync (since she is ex) and sync with Bea?

[crystal notch]

I did 2.5k with bea and ssa ex cynthia...but that's with sc steven debuffing defense + no evasion

not sure what would happen with someone else

I synced with cynthia sync (don't aim it at lorelei)

so fighting zone is up

and bea can nuke everyone

[weak sleet]

Noted thanks

[crystal notch]

but I dunno, don't take my 2 weeks old advice

I bear no responsibility for any failure to follow the strat

[proud axle]

I think you might sync with Bea. You want as much of the damage on Lorelei as possible, to come from attacks that don't miss (and in the case of the sync move, don't trigger the evasion reaction)

Try it both ways. Just... Remember that the Supports definitely want to aim at the sidekicks so they don't contribute to the evasion stack

The sidekicks have low HP (8k or less) and no evasion trick

[crystal notch]

also, 2.5k 1.2k 1.25k so far -> 4.95k points so far! I don't think I'll be able to go for 10k with my roster (I have doubts cyrus cheese on lance can go past 1.5k but I might be wrong)

but maybe 7.5k would be doable?...

[verbal karma]

oh no, now I have trouble with R4 Lance 😦

[weak sleet]

Thanks so much!

One last question before I run off for work and I forget to ask. Is there any round I shouldn't use for Lorelei? I was thinking to do her as round 1.

[proud axle]

I did Lorelei on round 1

That sounds good, since Bea hogs gauges once she starts Meteor Assaulting

[weak sleet]

Thanks

[wet gate]

what roudn should i do bertha?

[old orchid]

either round 1 or round 3 if the main damage dealer uses special moves

[keen jasper]

I did Bertha R4

[wet gate]

What support do I use for Bertha round 3?

[old orchid]

Hop or Hilbert

[wet gate]

should i poison stall lorelei on round 2

[crystal notch]

r4 lance sucks

he keeps dodging my hydro pumps

I can't rng gaming forever

I was using swamper-cyrus-blue

but clearly this can't go on forever

[old orchid]

does Cyrus have gridded accury tile?

can reset if the right uses X Evasion All

[crystal notch]

...no? he has one?

[old orchid]

he has a HP +10 and a +5 accuracy tile

basically they boost HP's accuracy to 95

[lunar meadow]

I did lorelai, Bruno, Bertha, Lance.

I forgot to look at fight mechanics, just threw the teams I built at them and didn't have too many issues. I did have to do two attempts on a couple, though.

I brought Venusaur/sycasaur against Bertha, but forgot I had "no status effects" on, so had to reset. I also realize now that I had "reduced special attack damage" against Serena... So Celebi sync nuke was really bad.

#1011619113501720586

[proud axle]

???

[old orchid]

Hydro Pump

[spring fable]

why does ss hilbert not do good damage?

i picked standard dmg reduc but isnt it supposed to be super effective when it lands?

[old orchid]

did you accidently pick Special Damage Reduction?

[spring fable]

i intentionally picked it (copied the list in pins), but brendan did a 2k leaf storm

[mellow linden]

Special Damage Reduction 8?

[spring fable]

2.5k on type post sync btw

[lunar meadow]

Does Genesect do grass type? 😅

[mellow linden]

Oh, wait

[spring fable]

nope i took phyiscal damage reduction 8

[lunar meadow]

I thought it was water, ice, fire, and bug

[mellow linden]

What was the opponent weak to?

[old orchid]

oh yeah i forgot to ask this first

[lunar meadow]

And electric

[spring fable]

oh wait

[formal vigil]

He doesn't though he can debuff spdef

[lunar meadow]

I don't think Genesect does grass type damage

[spring fable]

oh that explains it

[mellow linden]

Because SS Hilbert can only hit Bug, Electric, Fire, Ice, and Water super-effectively

[spring fable]

im sry

[old orchid]

yeah he can only deal SE on 5 types mentioned

[mellow linden]

It happens

[spring fable]

i didnt read his effect properly

[mellow linden]

No worries

[fiery rivet]

Finallllllllyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

[crystal notch]

Yeah, uh, help with r4 lanc3

been syncing with may

[lunar meadow]

Try killing him

[crystal notch]

to not lose dps on hydro pump

[crystal notch]

he gets giga impact in and I die

[lunar meadow]

No Wallygarde, Gardevoir, or G-Rapidash?

What about G-Moltres?

[crystal notch]

I mean, I do have wallygarde

this was hydro pump cheese

[lunar meadow]

But the cheese was swiss, because you're the one full of holes!

🧀

[crystal notch]

...I guess so, but uhhh...what do you want me to do?

[lunar meadow]

I probably wouldn't use Palkia hydro pump

What fairy types do you have?

[crystal notch]

swap cyrus with wallygarde 2/5?
sycamore 5/5 (no ex), mina 5/5, valerie 1/5. full stop.

two weeks old account

don't expect much

[lunar meadow]

Wallygarde/LilliFey, and a good defensive support (I think with crit buffs) probably works

[fiery rivet]

Sycamore dps

[lunar meadow]

Ah, no TL Lillie then

[fiery rivet]

Trust

[crystal notch]

was used in another team, alas

[glossy gorge]

Is there anything I should change about my teams?
Ignore teams 7 and 8, those teams are for fun I'm asking about teams 1-6 is there anything I should change?

[fiery rivet]

Awww

[crystal notch]

I mean, time to break out ss steven

mayziken will have to face blue then

[fiery rivet]

Heh

[fiery rivet]

They’re ok

[crystal notch]

as soon as right goes all evasion I lose so I have to reset

[fiery rivet]

Anni Lillie just needs tanks

[crystal notch]

if I miss one hydro pump I reset/lose

[fiery rivet]

So it good

[crystal notch]

[fiery rivet]

Do u have Sabrina?

[lunar meadow]

I mean, for what use?

Those 6 teams should be able to do on-type content

[fiery rivet]

Yea

6teams are a lot to focus on imo

[lunar meadow]

Or rotom

[fiery rivet]

Yea

[crystal notch]

yep

I have elesa rotom 1/5

and sabrina 3/5

[lunar meadow]

I mean... I have 18 premade on-type teams 😉

[fiery rivet]

Use Sabrina

[fiery rivet]

Same but a lot of overlap

Sabrina also has reflect help tank abit

[glossy gorge]

Tryna get a high score thingy on CMS on the kanto one iirc

[lunar meadow]

Nope.
I mean on type. Mono type. 🤣

Would love to pick up Stoutland to buff my normal type team

[fiery rivet]

Ik

But like I have to off-type a lot of stages in mm

[crystal notch]

sabrina grid?

[fiery rivet]

Wait

Use this

[lunar meadow]

#1009587872342478908 has most of the good standards.

MPR is important for her

[fiery rivet]

Very good Sabrina grid

[crystal notch]

thanks

[fiery rivet]

Mpr is very important

[crystal notch]

I'll have to go and study for exams now
so I'll just lurk

[fiery rivet]

Gl

[proud axle]

Yeah, Sabrina can give +2 acc with her two TMs (or more, with MPR)

[crystal notch]

no more CS attempts from me

[fiery rivet]

For exams

[crystal notch]

thanks!

[crystal notch]

hmmm is it a waste of the 40% healing

how would pre sync go? reflect reflect TM?

[fiery rivet]

It’s not

The healing is not the main part of tm

[crystal notch]

or reflect TM TM on palkia

[fiery rivet]

Yea

Reflect first imo

[crystal notch]

who syncs? sabrina, or may?

there's no point on syncing with palkia

[fiery rivet]

If Sabrina ex then sync with her

Then May

[crystal notch]

2 weeks old

my only EXs are ssa cynthia (lorelei) and cbede (bruno, to let rayq hit hard before dying)

[fiery rivet]

Then May sync

[crystal notch]

yeah, I was doing that

[fiery rivet]

Since u don’t have ex for Sabrina

[crystal notch]

and then rain dance after or before sync?

[fiery rivet]

One turn before

[crystal notch]

noted

if palkia doesn't crit he does Bad Damage

[fiery rivet]

Yea

He NEEDS to crit do do dmg

[crystal notch]

dire hit all...should I click that on sabrina

[fiery rivet]

Yea

[crystal notch]

hmmm I don't think I have enough turns to do all of that

do I?

wait I do

[fiery rivet]

Gimme a sec

Turn one reflect then use dire hit all 2times

The tm doesn’t have to come before sync

If u get mpr on tm use on May

[crystal notch]

muddy water missing 90% of the time

LMAO

[fiery rivet]

Get the nose in grid where give additional crit +1

[fiery rivet]

True

[crystal notch]

may's?

or sabrina

[fiery rivet]

Sabrina

[crystal notch]

noted

I still have 15k orbs left

so I'll go do it after exams

[fiery rivet]

Yea

[crystal notch]

time to rng gaming for lodge sycamore for grass weak CS

[fiery rivet]

Focus on more important things in life heh

[crystal notch]

offtype is scary

yeah

[fiery rivet]

Depends

If u have completely busted units then don’t worry

[crystal notch]

my "busted limited" units are all supports without the busted dps (with the sole exception of ss steven)

[lost gulch]

offtype is pretty doable honestly

but cserena is pretty pain in the arse

i had to use the bulkiest unit in the game to clear her shurikens

[mortal dirge]

Im on the same boat, dont know what to do

[dusty crater]

1/10 down.... support only btw.

[sand karma]

I managed the first 4 but Cerena is taking half of Sonia's health at once and SSErika is doing very little damage before sync

I'm much against offtyping

[tardy silo]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-sweat-hot-sweating-tired-gif-11899499

Serena fight was not the easiest

[civic trellis]

I had to finish the sides w sycamore bcz by the time I KOd serena, sides would KO my serena as well

[tribal agate]

Serena welcomes you with a machine gun

[tardy silo]

Dude that water shuriken hurts

[civic trellis]

I just kept ccalem in dark form for impervious

[tardy silo]

Shit I could have done that

[clever breach]

Erica with sun and right sync grid almost one shoots

[tardy silo]

I was very close to EX’ing lodge sycamore for this stadium

[spring fable]

I’m struggling r1, tried silver, Brendan and sycamore teams but failing

[tribal agate]

who are you attempting on r1 ?

[spring fable]

bertha / grimsley

[tardy silo]

Bruno is probably who you should gun for round one

Or wait

[civic trellis]

only 1 grass pair

[tardy silo]

r1 is the reflect one right?

[tribal agate]

r1 is reduced atk/phy reduc

[spring fable]

r1 is the physical damage reduc

[tardy silo]

Ok yeah

[civic trellis]

.

[tardy silo]

Bruno and use an attack debuffer

[tardy silo]

2

Sycamore might as well be grass

[tribal agate]

Hilbert team should work too

he buffs def

[tardy silo]

Have you ever clicked moonblast with that man?

You are lying if you say yes

[tribal agate]

esp with Aaron in the mix

[civic trellis]

Yes

Bcz I had physical damage reduction

[tribal agate]

but i wouldn't pair both Aaron and Hilbert

they cover the same niches

[civic trellis]

I was KOing the sides w moonblast

[spring fable]

i didnt try that team because ss erika is physical, which the round nerfs

[tribal agate]

and Erika is entirely self sustainable

no

[tardy silo]

It sets up the same effect as reflect

[tribal agate]

it starts the fight with reflect which is irrelevant to you

[tardy silo]

Meaning crits should bypass it

[tribal agate]

crits bypass those fields yes

just imo don't use both hilbert AND aaron

[spring fable]

how can i improve the team?

have sonia too

[tribal agate]

Erika is entirely self sustainable just slap either of the two and third can be a debuffer for funsies

like Nanu for screech, Kukui for flinching and leer, or if you struggle for some reason with offenses get an atk debuffer

[mortal dirge]

lol used the same team in grimsley round 4, had to do it cause the stage was kinda brutal but the birbs got it so quick

[tribal agate]

Erika should have no issues solo damaging

[spring fable]

ok i will swap hilbert for kukui

so ss erika's game plan is to sunny day > tm >tm > aaron sync > sunny day > solar blade spam?

[tribal agate]

don't tm lol

Aaron buffs her

spam solar blade all the time

after sun

if your erika is3/5

use the two x speed if anything for ramming speed

[spring fable]

aaron tm > sunny day > leer
aaron tm > leer > solar blade
aaron tm (refresh) > leer > solar blade
aaron sync?

[tribal agate]

yea sounds good

is it 2.500 points?

[spring fable]

yes

[tribal agate]

ok

[spring fable]

2,5k ontype post sync params

[tribal agate]

if you get the tank friendly setup in pins yea mid should die even pre-sync

[spring fable]

oh

[tribal agate]

i wouldn't use post sync ontype personally

if you triple queue properly

i don't see a way Bruno survives

[swift swan]

I'm gonna play devil's advocate and promote the masochist setup

[crystal notch]

side note: could ss steven + mayziken + flex slot (maybe non ex leaf/hop) do 2.5k for blue? it's offtype

[tribal agate]

[swift swan]

definitely

[tribal agate]

if Mayziken is 3/5

[crystal notch]

...1/5

14 days, no candy yet

[swift swan]

ss steven and mayziken should rip through the stage regardless, I think?

[tribal agate]

i would not bet on it

i wouldn't bet on it personally

[swift swan]

is this your first MM? if you're new maybe don't go to 2.5k immediately

[civic trellis]

How do u have mayziken and ss steven if u only played for 2 weeks

[spring fable]

do bruno first?

[crystal notch]

1 week around ssa cynthia release

8 month break

[tribal agate]

yes

[spring fable]

was expecting a bertha / grimsley r1 recommended

[crystal notch]

back here now

[civic trellis]

Oh

[tribal agate]

Bertha is fine too

tbh

[swift swan]

I mean anyone aside from lorelei is physical oriented. the key lies in your team

[crystal notch]

see dates lMAO

[swift swan]

remember screens on entry will ruin your quadqueue

[crystal notch]

but eh irrelevant regardless

currently on...6.2k iirc

or 6.1k?

not too sure

[swift swan]

so do round 1 against whichever team doesn't care about physical screen on entry ruining quadqueue or find a way to sync twice before the enemy regardless

[swift swan]

try 1.5k or 2k on champion

[crystal notch]

yeah 6.15k, just checked

I 2.5k lorelei, and the rest is around 1.2k

[swift swan]

you're already past the great rewards. maybe aim to get 7.5k in total for orbs

[tribal agate]

have you attempted stalling?

[proud axle]

Doing a KO Denial on the left side, can get you to reclaim your second sync even with a ruined quadqueue

[crystal notch]

no, as this is currently planning
and I have an exam tomorrow (this is just me study break)

[proud axle]

You might need the How To Do Denials lesson.

But not from me, I'm busy rn

[tribal agate]

i have a video update plan to replace the current quadqueue video in the pin that talks about turn denial and other quirks to help with cs

the recording is done it's just montage now but i'll try to finish it for this week

[proud axle]

It's an advanced trick but it's a big help

[crystal notch]

I did turn denial to beat lance

it was still a very close call though

Which is why I'm planning blue more thoroughly

[tribal agate]

nice

[crystal notch]

my worry is that the flex slot can't survive pre-sync tank friendly

I can tank with ss steven obviously

but then who for the last slot

sonia isn't ex-ed

[swift swan]

not worth tanking with defense form deoxys when attack form exists

[tribal agate]

if Steven tanks, then you'll want maybe Blaine for Sun to boost May?

not Def form

Speed form is a better tank

[swift swan]

...ironic

[crystal notch]

exactly, which is why I want to slot a tank for flex slot
...tank with speed form? I'm intrigued

[swift swan]

seriously?

[tribal agate]

and it synergizes with May's acceleration

[swift swan]

I can understand the acceleration

but damn

[tribal agate]

have you seen speed form stats it's huge

and can +6 eva

[swift swan]

is this a case of "I sync too quickly and wipe the stage too quickly"

smh eva strats

[crystal notch]

2k lesgo rng malding smh

[tribal agate]

evade tanks are tanks!

[crystal notch]

on a more serious note, I don't think I have the time to reset/redo anything

so whatever I get after beating blue is whatever I get

which is already good enough

so, try out 1.5k or 2k?

[swift swan]

[swift swan]

you have until the end of the week

[trail smelt]

Yeah speed Deoxys tank is half fast Nuke and half evasion tank

[crystal notch]

there's the other CS

[swift swan]

[crystal notch]

of which I need to offtype almost everything

[swift swan]

that lasts for 2 weeks

[crystal notch]

huh it doesn't rotate per week?

there's only one set for both weeks?

[trail smelt]

Yes

[crystal notch]

great

[trail smelt]

It’s a special event that lasts 2 weeks

[crystal notch]

lodge sycamore speedrun might be doable after all

[spring fable]

wait

bruno is impervious

[crystal notch]

thanks!

speed form deoxys - mayziken - blaine, huh

would mayziken benefit more from someone like sonia or leaf (3/5, not ex)?

[lucid solstice]

I actually had most difficulty with Bruno since I tried to do a Kalos only clear

1/5 Lysandre is just... ouch

[tribal agate]

Not the grass weak one no

the flying one yes from the normal CS

[swift swan]

leaf and may will fight for sync, since Leaf doesn't buff shit unless she syncs

go for Sonia

[spring fable]

hmm i still cant clear bruno

[swift swan]

base lysandre that bad?

[spring fable]

do i go nuke grid on ss erika?

[dusty crater]

2/10 now

[swift swan]

worth a try

[tribal agate]

shouldn't need

can you record what you're doing on Bruno?

[swift swan]

even though from my experience, ss erika and brendan dual strike very well

[tribal agate]

SS Erika can solo strike on type normally

i see no reason for her not to pre-sync massacre Bruno especially with def downs

[swift swan]

SS Erika OHKO'd bertha on first sync, round 4

it wasn't even funny

mine was EX'd though

[tribal agate]

mine is not EX but she's 5/5 not that it matters much, i'll give it a try now

are you positive

you picked special damage reduction 8 and not can't change weather/zone

[spring fable]

yupp positive

[swift swan]

my first sync did 25k. tech EX though

[lucid solstice]

Compared to a 5/5 OG Blue, yeah

[swift swan]

literally OHKO'd bertha with sync alone

[spring fable]

ok at this point, i dont mind EX to make it easier

[tribal agate]

you shouldn't need at all

don't EX

[lucid solstice]

Bruno hits rather hard too so you cannot dally around too much

[swift swan]

if she's non-EX maybe you'll need another... uh what's her DPS move again

[cinder summit]

Sygna Suit Erika & Leafeon

‎ Type: ‎　‎　Weak:

Level 140 Stats:

HP: 586
ATK: 224 | DEF: 163
SPA: 132 | SPD: 163
SPE: 314

Acquisition:

General Pool
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Alternates:

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[tribal agate]

if she's 3/5, get that Sync Nuke grid

[lucid solstice]

Bulldoze with the new parameter that gives 3x damage

[spring fable]

let her nuke 2nd?

she doesnt survive that long

[swift swan]

really?

[spring fable]

for me at least

[swift swan]

did you accidentally pick up techs take x3 damage?

[tribal agate]

ok let me record the fight real quick

[spring fable]

hmm nope

[swift swan]

hmmm maybe you got unlucky with a lot of AOEs

[crystal notch]

who's tanking first, speed deox or sonia?

[spring fable]

how's offtyping with new params compared to prev params?

[swift swan]

bulldoze hurts SS Erika's inertia/ramming speed multipliers

[swift swan]

harder for 2.5k

the new params definitely encourage ontype

[swift swan]

oh, if you're running sonia, replace ss steven. keep Blaine for May

ss steven or sonia, pick one or the other

[tribal agate]

oops i put Erika on slot 1

[crystal notch]

oh well, I'll try both

...after my exams

I must resist

[tribal agate]

ok uploading @spring fable

you'll follow this rotation

it was really effortless

[spring fable]

does this man always start with bulldoze 😠

[crystal notch]

side note but guessing who has TMs suck when I'm trying to flinch cheese

and they don't always use their TMs for some reason

[crystal notch]

or is my memory/observation faulty for this one

(I flinch cheesed agatha with whitney gio sycamore)

[tribal agate]

i'm showcasing here turn denial, but with her propulsion it's not even required
however this technique is important to learn still
could have probably queue'd leer before the first sync but habits diehard

[devout sluice]

Oh I thought that was a real loading Dream.

[lunar meadow]

Flinch is great

[swift swan]

move order in CS is random

sometimes they start with TMs, sometimes they don't

[fiery rivet]

Having busted supports are great

But try get coverage for all types

It doesn’t need to be a fantastic team it just needs to be able to clear the stage

U need

[crystal notch]

oh, mostly because I'm playing with my faves (as most people have informed me)

and a lot of my faves are limited (which I couldn't get for obvious reasons)

[fiery rivet]

Yea

Favs>meta

[spring fable]

what happened after the sync?

i cant get a 2nd sync before him

[zealous karma]

Prolly OHKO’d the side

[tribal agate]

wdym you can't

did you follow exactly the steps on the video, if you do then you are assured to sync before him since i did

[crystal notch]

so flinching only gives me one or two extra move at best

[swift swan]

yup

sometimes it can clutch you a win if you can't quadqueue/do denial

[zealous karma]

(Unless your SSLyra she gives you free queues)

[crystal notch]

like for example, I can raise mina for fairy

but I don't like or love her

so I just offtype with my faves

[spring fable]

what happened to the leer after the sync?

[swift swan]

those busted supports can carry low tier damage dealers like a champ

[spring fable]

it queued and then disappeared

[zealous karma]

Mina + scyamore is a pretty free on type

[fiery rivet]

Yea

[spring fable]

0:34

[swift swan]

I should test Mina on 2.5k

[fiery rivet]

And then slap like

[swift swan]

if only fairy gear would come

[fiery rivet]

Torchic

[tribal agate]

it didn't dissapear

[zealous karma]

Oh right same

[tribal agate]

Kukui used leer at that point

it was after the sync so it just happened normally

the trick to turn denial is to delay your sync by one move unlike you would normally in triple queue

https://i.imgur.com/tGkLt2A.png

[crystal notch]

I mean...I can raise olivia

for blue ontype

[tribal agate]

normally you do sync > move > move
in turn denial if you can't quad, you do move > sync > move
and then queue with Aaron & Erika super fast while the left side dies

[crystal notch]

not exactly a fave, but I guess it'll save my butt until I get my rock faves

[fiery rivet]

Triple Que is very important especially in mm

[spring fable]

leer > x speed all > leer
into
leer > x speed all > solar blade

[tribal agate]

no lol

look closer

https://i.imgur.com/O1ixP4f.png

the second leer you're seeing is the one above the pokemon's head

it's the same leer that's on top of the list

https://i.imgur.com/bqocm28.png

it's like this

[spring fable]

oh

im actually blind

[tribal agate]

[swift swan]

oh this happens a lot. "huh did I fail my triple queue? oh no it's just the move on top of the pokemon's head overlapping with the action order"

[crystal notch]

ok new idea, olivia - ss steven - someone ig

would that enable 2.5k?

[swift swan]

what move level is that olivia

[crystal notch]

2/5

[swift swan]

hmmmm

[crystal notch]

one move level away from 3/5

sad

[tribal agate]

she gets Inertia at 2/5 anyway

so she's already primed, but for off type?

i wouldn't bet on it

[spring fable]

lemme write down the moves

[tribal agate]

plus she needs Sand

[crystal notch]

isn't she on type

for blue

[tribal agate]

OH sorry

[crystal notch]

and I have acerola

[tribal agate]

i'm still stuck on grass week

it's annoying they overlap lol

yes then

[swift swan]

she has inertia and sand blaster at least

[tribal agate]

Acerola + Olivia is a common combo

[swift swan]

at 2/5

Olivia + Acerola + physical support

someone to quickly buff olivia's speed, attack, and crit

[devout sluice]

I had to stall this stadium, except Lorelei couldn’t because of gradual healing.

[tribal agate]

hilbert 3/5 is almost the only one who meets that condition lol

[lunar meadow]

When I do full 2500 toxic stall, I give them gradual healing.

Just use badly poison instead of poison

[keen jasper]

You have Hilbert? I thought he doesn't exist?

[tribal agate]

[toxic cobalt]

You toxic stall with nomral poison???

[crystal notch]

Hilbert 1/5, so nope

[tribal agate]

tbf even 1/5 Hilbert is fine

Olivia can buff her crit

but she needs help with ATK/Speed

[keen jasper]

I'm still salty that I don't have Hilbert after 1 year of playing this game

[zealous karma]

I didn’t have kris for several years until Johto tickets given from the Va

[spring fable]

that sync didnt kill 😮

time to reset

[tribal agate]

might not have crit, it's still 80% chance rip

didn't kill mid or side?

if the range is finnicky, you can substitute the third x speed by a solar blade (right before the sync) just to help a bit secure the kill, then use the x speed later

[spring fable]

side

maybe cause i got bulldozed?

is your erika exed btw

[tribal agate]

no

https://i.imgur.com/EHAf9yU.png

yes bulldoze would be a problem

since it will reduce inertia & ramming speed

[grand trout]

How long will grass CS stay?

[tribal agate]

2 weeks : #1012256199128915968 message

[swift swan]

if you have sonia, could try with her instead. bulldoze won't be a problem since she'll buff speed back

[spring fable]

nooo

i got a good run and didnt get bulldozed

then my nuke on mid didnt kill

[tribal agate]

ouch

did you swap to the tank friendly pre-sync parameters

that's what i used, not post sync

[spring fable]

yep i changed them

No ahhhh

i cant 1 shot onix lol

[tribal agate]

how is Kukui dead and why is Aaron so low

[spring fable]

thats after gigaliths attack

[tribal agate]

that's very weird

https://i.imgur.com/zjqcuum.png

if you look at my footage

they are all full health pretty much

plus Aaron boosts both defenses to the team

so Gigalith shouldn't be able to hurt you that much

especially with Rock Slide of all things

and another thing i'm noticing is that your sync cooldown is at 9 there

so i assume you somehow did 3 syncs

but Bruno should have died immediately on the second

[spring fable]

he did not

[tribal agate]

if you can record your fight, it would help further

[spring fable]

i wasted an extra solar blade

[tribal agate]

you got the grid i linked earlier for Erika right?

[devout sluice]

Did use badly poison but I’ll select gradual healing next time a type stadium comes. Thankfully saved my best grass unit against her then had to off-type Serena.

[spring fable]

the nuke grid?

yupp

[tribal agate]

hm well yeah then a recording would be the only way to see what's going wrong

[spring fable]

question: how significant is ww3

[tribal agate]

not, i use CS2

[spring fable]

cause mine doesnt have a lucky skill

[tribal agate]

it's just a 10% difference

you don't have CS2?

[spring fable]

i do not

[tribal agate]

that's a 20% dmg loss, which is pretty important

should have mentioned that immediatly

we have bonanza going on rn and earlier LG for farming cookies, and Villa atm

[spring fable]

i just saw it when i scrolled back up to double check the grid

i have the cookies, and alot of pairs that require lucky skill so i have not gotten to giving it to them

have only worked on legendary adventure pairs for now

[swift swan]

can probably try dual striking then

[tribal agate]

i don't think dual striking is an option here since they're using on-type parameters and it seems all their other grass pairs are taken it was really just the lack of CS2

[spring fable]

i have a few more grass pairs

can shift dawn over if thats anything

i just cleared bv, i'll try again tmr!

thanks for the help today

[frosty axle]

Done Serena Stadium was way too easy F2P lol

when home later I will share it

[wet gate]

12.5k complete

[frosty axle]

were you offtyping on purpose or is your grass bad?

[spare lantern]

How bad was it off type? I dont have enough grass units so good to know it can be done

[hearty lynx]

Sycamore maybe

Horn leech is good

[tame gust]

hm, so round 1 Bruno, Round 2 Toxic stall loreli, round 3 weather change on Bertha, round 4 go for anti flinch/crit, and then round 5 is a slug fest with physical attacks?

[wet gate]

all my grass is underleveled, all but rosa and leaf are <lv130

[wet gate]

for rounds 4 and 5 i just used my most powerful units

[tame gust]

so slug fest then? I'm working on my own teams and I lack stuff like Brendan and Victor.

[weak sleet]

So I could off type the special stadium with birds, rats, and frogs?

[wet gate]

yeah

[crystal notch]

side note: the fact that yall call certain (in)famous trainers like this is very funny

birds, rats, frogs, monke

had to wrack my head for the birds (NC?)

but I know the rats real well

frogs is Kalos Champ greninja right

monke is rillaboom

[north crown]

skill issue. just read the damn parameter descriptions in game. cmon you've played for long enough to know which will benefit what team you build. You can also try building around the parameter.

for some pairs/teams, you don't necessarily need to pay attention to the parameter at all since sweep

[verbal karma]

damn, you responded way too late AND pinged me

I have already beaten Master Mode of CC by that point

[verbal karma]

and I literally fucking did

reading the parameter descriptions was EXACTLY why I had a hard time deciding in the first place

[north crown]

really? I find that the parameters help with my teambuilding since usually you can abuse most of them

[verbal karma]

I mean, it doesn't help if I have multiple candidates that can fit that parameter

[north crown]

additiona effects make 50%+ flinch rates have guaranteed flinch, so like:

[verbal karma]

and I have to decide between one of the candidates

[north crown]

then choose the weaker team. ez

[verbal karma]

mainly for the rarer stuff like "Move Gauge boost"

[north crown]

use for slow team

ez

is it that hard to decide for shit like MGB or debuff on faint?

they're the less important ones, especially faint debuff since it barely does anything to both teams. just use your strongest / most consistent team on those kinds of params

[swift swan]

well reading parameters is gonna help you more than not reading it, going into a round blindly, and realizing it's half sync countdown or something

[low linden]

reading hard I unga bunga

Jokes aside reading parameter can almost always help me decide on my team by focusing on my damage dealer

[swift swan]

you're right, reading is overrated. i'd rather go to PMCord and ask the helpers and get instant answers!

[keen jasper]

[void wyvern]

I love pulling up Nov.com and getting instant answers. So easy

[keen jasper]

ChatNovninth

[north crown]

I get that deciding on assigning parameters to teams takes time and brainpower, but it's usually worth it in the long run to save time and tries on runs.

[void wyvern]

Using brain cells does in fact improve the game experience

[north crown]

anyways is NEOCS hard or is it just like any other CS besides CSerena?

[tame gust]

hmm. so I'm shooting for 2.5k sets on special CS

Bruno: Gardenia, Roxanne, Blaine (for sun)
Loreli: Lucy, Ariados, Aaron (Toxic Stall)
Bertha: Silver, Torchic, Potion User
Grimsley: Sycamore, Crit booster, Dawn (maybe??)
Serena: SSErika, Skyla, ???

Those sound like good ideas?

[weak sleet]

The birds are the galar birds, frogs are the Greninja

[mellow linden]

Other than Serena all of them are existing CS stages

[void wyvern]

It’s the same. Cserena has spooky Water shredder. But otherwise it’s free.

[mellow linden]

So depends on how hard you find those stages in their home regions

As for my 2 cents on round parameters, it usually doesn’t take much thought once you’ve established a basic team for each type

[north crown]

you're giving bertha 3 boosted sand moves

[mellow linden]

So if you’re having significant issues figuring out your order try doing that 1st

[swift swan]

pretty easy

[tame gust]

ah shit, you're right. Maybe move Blaine down to bertha. I forgot about that part.

[swift swan]

fun, but easy regardless

[tame gust]

could switch the Gardenia party down to Bertha then?

[swift swan]

me watching by best tanks get shredded by two uses of water shuriken with no quarter

[void wyvern]

Serena really be like “Gimme your hp.”

[swift swan]

whoever you're saving for bertha, just bring an immediate sun setter

[swift swan]

I think both sycamore and dawn might be redundant here

splitting them is better imo

dawn tanks physical stages incredibly well

[tame gust]

Yeah, you've got a point.

[lavish ivy]

So how’s the difficulty on neo champ stadium

[north crown]

do people even read #1006331343300473022, especially teambuilding 101?

[mellow linden]

See above

[north crown]

scroll up

[tame gust]

I read some of it, and I know the basics, just gotta get better with adjustments lol

[lavish ivy]

sadly

[swift swan]

I sure hope so

[keen jasper]

Serena deletes you with Water Shuriken

[north crown]

dw you'll get better with time as you gain more game knowledge

[mellow linden]

Champ Serena can be a pain if you’re going for 2.5k because Water Shuriken, but outside of her the difficulty depends on how hard you find the stages in their home regions

[lavish ivy]

[swift swan]

just get lucky and pray she doesn't spam water shuriken, easy

[north crown]

yeah semes like cserena is the only "real" threat

[swift swan]

[keen jasper]

And if you pick Power On Hit, even the tankiest of tanks will fall against her Water Shuriken

[mellow linden]

Pretty much

[north crown]

or bring water guard

[swift swan]

[keen jasper]

Laughs in crit

[north crown]

or sleep stall

[tame gust]

Lana to tank Serena. Lets' go!

[north crown]

thank god she's not grass weak

[mellow linden]

Half-Sync parameter can lead to some chaos. Especially when Bruno decides to crit SS Erika 100% of the time after using Dire Hit

[north crown]

oh wait she buffs the wrong defenses

[worn tusk]

whats Lance weaker too , special or physical

[mellow linden]

Yes I’m upset about that RNG

[keen jasper]

Neither

[north crown]

idk and frankly I don't think you should care

[mellow linden]

Doesn’t favor either one defensively

[north crown]

just bring whatever DPS

I'm stalling my neocs run I should do that

so I stop spamming in this chat

[swift swan]

which is why you kill him before sync!

I presynced bertha R4 EX SS erika was nuts, literally only EX'd her yesterday

[crystal notch]

is ss erika on ticket pool

[mellow linden]

Yeah, general 5-star tickets and Kanto 5-star tickets

[devout sluice]

I was lazy to not use SS Erika so off-typed her.

[tame gust]

so Silver wants Speed boosters since he can somewhat manage his own crit, yeah?