#Champion Stadium
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It felt like he was doing next to nothing when I used him earlier, idk if maybe it's due to only being 1/5 or whatever rules I had set up
not knowing how to effectively use a pair is not the same as them being bad...
Probably either not buffing his crit or poor parameters
Next to nothing means the parameters were wrong
Or yeah crit too
That's a good team. But personally don't recommend Zinnia for flying weak. Just demands too much and can't slot in a flying sync without using a premium weather support
u think ex-ing blue and pidgeot would be worth it ? don’t have any limited flying and zinnia is my only other flying or should i off type flying weak
I don't remember what parameters I had, cause they went away after reseting the whole cs cause I'd rather not have it sitting there halfway
No need to EX. Off type is always an option. Also can invest in Kahlil maybe
Blue plus Kahili do clear this flying weak quite decently
First sync for Blue and second haymaker sync (if lucky with super preparation) with Kahili
Ss Elesa is a good pair with Blue
And not that it would be recommended much but Kahili can act as a tank too with MP refresh on trainer move and maybe the shielded tile
would all this work for 2.5k parameters?
Man the lance fight was actually really hard
Blue nearly took me out with air cutter.
They should be fine
I just don’t get why aaron’s on the Sycamore team. He kinda wants a poisoner for his multipliers
You can take Team Sharp Entry on Sycamore if you need it
i have team sharp entry on him indeed
i put aaron to buff defenses
and get the small heal when needed
might need for the 4* bulbasaur
Which stage are you planning to use sycamore?
i have seriously no idea
I’m guessing Victor is for Cerena and Erika is for Bertha
i just did random grass teams
Grimsley uses Snarl so you’d want to use a physical team
selene it is
Let me check my team for grimsley.
So then mallow vs bruno and sycamore vs lorelei
Lorelei mostly uses special moves so i think you’d be fine using a poisoner over aaron
poisoner as in any unit?
that can poison
also toxic pwr on sycasaurus i suppose?
at the earliest inconvenience im ready to throw aura cynthia anyway
i put bp erika instead of aaron
Pretty much yeah
I’m planning Janine iirc
bp erika should be fine since she's a tank mainly
and her toxic might be harder to set up but it's guaranteed
Im planning to do two poison stall rounds 1 off type round and 2 on-type rounds.
That’s my plan for Grass 12.5k
It lasts until the 25th
Ya so basically masters day reset
This should give me enough time if I begin to have trouble on grass CS.
oh so
once im done, it's done?

thank god actually, it would ve been bland to keep on and repeat
Lorelei’s stage (fighting weak) increases its evasion every time you hit it, so bring pairs that can raise accuracy (like Solgaleo for example) or have abilities that prevent missing. If all else fails, you can use Thorton’s Telekinesis, which applies an effect that makes the target unable to dodge
For me 1/5 diantha was enough
Nuked with lodge steven
Or just sync nuke her, since sync can't miss
That works too, but there aren’t a lot of accessible fighting nukers
tyty!
alriiiiight now who goes first >:0
Lemme check the round params rq
I did fairy last. Ghost first.
Wind was annoying because apparently he is impervious
I love using Roark. Unga Bunga, me smash rock.
Whichever team consumes a lot of gauge should go first
Use round 2 vs Lorelei or Agatha for a Special Damage Shield
Use R3 for a stage if you’ll use the additional effects of a move
Use R4 if you plan on using debuffs for a stage. Bruno’s middle is invulnerable to debuffs, so don’t do him 4th
gotcha! looks like i really gotta plan my teams first then
should i send my roster for some tips?
Might as well
Have you created an image using the tracker website?
Have you unlocked the medal yet?
ye!
Do you know how many points you’ll aim for?
oh wait i havebt actually completed it yet oops lol
i still need uhh normal, electric, fighting, ground, psychic, bug, dark, n fairy
idk!
probably just whatevers considered "normal" mode
Hmm, so if you get those types this week then you can reset to do a MM clear
Some early ideas for the medal clearing teams
Lorelei: Solgaleo, Maylene, Ingo
Bruno: NC Marnie, def buffer
Agatha: Viola, Giovanni, SS Elesa
Lance: Diantha, def buffer, Torchic
Blue: Emmet, Acerola, SpDef buffer
This clears Electric, Fighting, Ground, Psychic, Bug, Dark and Fairy. So just slot any normal type
awesome, ty!
but isnt ingo a little weak when not paired with emmet?
and vice versa?
ingo as a support pair is a lot more flexible
Ingo is a generally strong Support and Emmet is a generally strong damage-dealer, they just synergize extremely well with each other
oh gotcha!
I thought that Solgaleo could really use Ingo’s support EX boost, but Emmet doesn’t need it too badly
Finished hard today
Agatha and Bruno gave me the most trouble
I ran Agatha on round 3 with acerola giovanni rosa
But that team was so fragile it kept dying like two moves after sync
Bruno is just zinnia being fragile and me not running a tank (maybe ss steven...but egh, he'd be better off as dps)
I would have expected Giovanni to have taken Agatha down before the sync tbh, especially with Acerola landing flinches to stall them
But I notice that team doesn't have a Speed booster
That explains that, then
Should I have looked at their speed stats
Ooops

Speed is how we generate gauge
Speed buffs, especially teamwide, amplify gauge income
when in doubts, always have a speed boosting unit if you have it.
It's why Roxanne is amazing even though she has no HP
Speed, SpAtk, Def, all in one package. Just have someone else be the tank
yeah, Roxanne is Mewtwo's best friend imo.
Skyla (Speed and Def) has some bulk, and some potions
on that note, should I 4* and 3* powerup skyla, winona, and roxanne
Marley (Speed, status cure, status prevention, and a ridiculous number of little extra buffs in her Grid) has bulk and can be regridded for the fight's needs
I recommend doing that for Roxanne and Skyla. Maybe not Winona.
or should I hold off and wait until I can use my 3* and 4* candies (do they still work on PUd 3* and 4*)
anyone else who'd prefer it over them? if not I'll just PU them now
So if you promote Skyla to 5star... She still uses 3star candy
Hmm...
on csmm I assume lorelei is the easiest for my roster
ex ssa cynthia - bea - dunno who evasion debuffs (sc steven)
Lorelei is, like, the trickiest this week
And possibly trickiest in all of Kanto
I totally forgot about her evasion when writing this
Lemme look at the base 3star sync pair list and try to pick out some worth 
evasion up on hit and the ability to block crits is a very bullshit gimmick :D
Skyla and Roxanne are still two of the top picks. Maybe the two top picks. I'll list some more before you commit though
Maylene has a near-complete phys attacker buffset if you grid her, and this includes Acc.
Marley’s a good Support as well
Hmmm I like bea as a character though
Unless medicham is phys psychic wait what does maylene have in pokemas
Marley has speed, bulk, and griddable flexibility.
Cheryl has massive special bulk, healing, and griddable speed boosts (but if she is prodded with a phy attack, she is hospitalized)
it's funny how amazing 3* support unis can be.
Phys Fighting Support
Maylene is a Support, so she wouldn’t be used instead of Bea
Buffset is Atk, Speed, Acc, Crit
If anything she’d be used alongside Bea
Maylene has very little offense. She is there to give buffs
Eh, I suppose I can run maylene with ssa ex cynthia + bea
Or move cynthia to another team to cover
Including acc. HINT HINT, LORELEI
Ooh, I'll list some more
So maylene and skyla can share
You&Torchic have a good buffset too
Player/Torchic imo is for mixed attacker sets, but yeah, amazing buffs.
On the offense side, Korrina is a solid choice (but you can use Bea instead, so this is now optional)
Pryce is an amazing partner for Ghetsis
Roark, once gridded, has some of the highest turn-to-turn Rock DPS in the game.
Let's see... There are other good 3stars but they are increasingly niche.
+3and4stars for a general priority ranking, btw
List below shows general usefulness of 3 & 4 star pairs.
Some pairs are harder to unlock than others and usually most require to be gridded.
There is no specific order within the tiers!
For more details, feel free to ask people in #poma-questions !
Like... Your default Pikachu can do some electric damage if you don't have better yet. Or Oak, who is also 3star
I'm not sure I'd use that chart for
priority, but it's not a bad place to start
investment, maybe.
investment, not so much
Not required, but helpful if you’re gunning for a high point value (either that or Poison stall since both can make use of Standard Damage Reduction 8)
I do have 2/5 Olivia btw, but I don't have any preference investing in either (and will probably replace if a fav comes along)
Should I go with roark or with Olivia?
Three of the fights in Oops All Grass, have Lessen Poison 8 instead of 9. The problem is, one of the three has Full Heal to remove Toxic (and maybe reset the stack?) Whereas the other has Dire Hit, which can be a problem for your survival
Olivia, then.
Olivia has a better Sync, Roark has better regular move damage
2/5 is where she gets the sandstorm grid nodes that make her great
It is a concern that Olivia will be glued to a Sandstormer at all times. Roark doesn't necessarily hog a whole second teamslot in this way.
But, well, Acerola is a good Tech.
Niche picks for your 
Mina&Granbull
You&Pikachu
Candice&Abomasnow
Janine&Ariados
Liza&Lunatone
Oh, I also have the gold (not rainbow) BP tickets
Should I get anyone from there
I have like 3
Lt Surge & Raichu is recommended
BP Surge, BP Morty, and BP Clemont are arguably the top 3 options
Janine & Crowbat is also recommended
If you don't have a better Electric option, Sophocles&AlolanGolem is surprisingly good
Has a recoil move, but also a -90% Recoil passive skill to make the damage trivial
All the power and very little backlash
Sophocles over Pikachu? I dont like the yellow rat (also why I skipped Ash and SST Red)
Wait, better surge or sophocles?
Surge is support, Sophocles is attacker
Surge has a very good buffset and beginners need more supports
Your nickname says you only played 2 weeks but I kinda doubt that...
Do you have Elesa/Zebstrika, and if so, is she 2+/5?
(5star)
I do, but 1/5
Ooooof
I mean she's gen pool so she'll come home sooner or later right
1 week during ssa cynthia, then took an 8 months long break
but I did play during launch when stamina didn't exist
1/5 kills itself faster than the enemy
2/5 can outdamage Sophocles but suffers much more recoil in the process
3/5 gains the same recoil ratio as Sophocles and finally beats him for practicality
BP Clemont... Hm. He is a Support but his skillset is a lot like a Tech.
Role compression. And X Acc All is a very uncommon option indeed
so, I have two tickets
which do I pick?
I wanna say Surge and then Morty. Morty is great for stall teambuilds: defenses, healing, and Confuse Ray
Surge is an excellent support for your offense.
Though keep in mind that the BP supports tend to have lowish bulk
(also, ex leaf over rosa first? I can fetch 5 PUs from one of the other lodge pairs since silver is over 30 now)
the eevee one, 3/5
Maybe yes...
Tbh though,
are not the bottleneck
So you can EX Rosa really soon after
just for this week it is LMAO
yeah
Oh shit, Leaf is 3/5?
+2 all stats and if you upgrade the sync grid you do have a spammable 1-gauge. Plus, having an EX Support to give you the 2 Sync boost isn't a bad deal
yeah
Definitely her, then
...if by A Lot you mean... two
Unless it's only partial grids I guess
Cyrus is a common choice.
takes 7.5k sync orbs to max a grid
already gridded cyrus
so 3
but yeah partial grids should work anyways
If Leaf is 3/5, she might be worth gridding next
Acerola can get a partial grid
Just Sandstorm MPR and Astonish Aggrav.
Olivia needs a grid if you want to use her. Roark would also need a grid if you wanted to use him instead
yoink
The one safely Toxic-stallable fight is Lorelei
Johto Bruno has the Full Heal and Unova Grimsley has the Dire Hit
The Lorelei fight is exactly the same as the one we had yesterday
Well, time to wait for lodge reset for me to snatch their PUs
yeah?
I have other pairs who I leveled to like 8
I spread levels because of the lvl 5 giving 10 5* scout tickets
I think that's what a lot of new lodge people do
Blue has a particularly good Friend100 pair, fwiw
I can always shift to blue, I don't mind
Elesa's Friend100 pair is a Support that has... Acc and Crit in the same buffset, IIRC
or elesa
Few pairs have that combination. I think before Maylene got her grid, the only one was Easter Burgh?
but yeah, any ideas for csmm teams?
I'll go for 4.2k or...somewhere near 7.5k, if that's even possible for my account for kanto
oops all grass, I have 0 idea how it works
It's just Grass-weak E4 members from existing leagues
The champion is not from an existing league tho
I feel like I should save SS Erika for Zerena.
Toxic Stall Lorelei
Use Sun against Bertha or else she kills you with her sandstorm bonuses
Use pairs that don't care about SpAtk debuffs against Serena
If you have a tank with Unflappable (flinchproof), use them against Grimsley (lots of Flinches in that fight)
Bruno is...
...a very straightforward fight
JohtoLeagueMoment.Png
Hilariously, most Grass attackers don't care about SpAtk drops.
Brendan and Silver demand the Dauntless lucky skill, making them immune. Gardenia can invert them to SpAtk boosts via Trust In Nature, and then become immune to subsequent drops in sun via grid
Sycamore(Xerneas) uses a phys grass attack and can grid for Impervious besides. Sycamore(Bulbasaur, from Lodge) has Impervious innately
You already mentioned SSErika. She uses phys attacks too, yeah
Anti-Ramos striker moment
realistically what points/sets should I use?
Strength+6 is less scary than it sounds
Phys Shield and Special Shield don't matter if you crit
Max gauge -2 is less scary than it sounds
Hmm you're right I'm not parsing something
Is there a reason to stall Lorelei other than eh why not?
This person only played for 2 weeks so their grass roster may not be well developed
I'm going to stall her because of eh why not tho
Rip silver 💔
Look harder. Silver and Sycamore have very good grass attacks
Get your Gardenia up
hmm yeah I should
Get lodge sycamore
Lodge Sycamore good striker?
Ugh, they're already torn between Lodge Blue and Lodge Elesa
anyways going to do work, will be back with (terribly built) teams
Imo a lot better than gardenia
The best kind of teams
Def lodge blue lodge elesa’s support is rather niche
ooh this is nice info.
unless I can speedrun sycamore or blue to 100 in 5 days which I doubt
maybe with good rng
Maybe I'll try to put together some f2p teams with not many lodge pairs
When you get back, maybe ask for someone to teach you Teambuilding
Not me, though, I'm feeling lazy
Event lasts for two weeks right?
Ye
But unless they finish the next Lodge Guest in 5 days as mentioned... That means they can't get a second guest maxed in time
I suspect the bigger roadblock for new users is getting Dauntless
I know the basic FAQs
but more than that...no not really
I know some like use atk boosts for phys attackers
sp atk for special attackers
You made a team with no speed buffer in it, and it was gauge starved... so you might benefit from the lesson
Put Skyla in every team
cs pikachu shock moment
I can't believe I have two Discords with the appropriate emoji and this one is neither of them
This would ironically be a perfect time to use one
I do wonder where they gonna place the grass CS at. Gotta be room at the CS tab.
It's going to be in Events
Same as Legendary Gauntlet
It's not in the Legendary Arena tab, it's in Events
Oh.
The spacing in CS tab has changed since the update so i think the special CS is probably there
Maybe.
That so? Maybe subsequent Gauntlets can be put into the Arena then
Yeah its in CS tab
Cool, and it's even in green
I'm going to be really annoyed if the next Gauntlet isn't in the Arena tab
(It won’t be)
Finally some use to that menu
Now give me my Param presets
Next month unfortunately 
If only it was this month 
I wonder how many presets they gonna do, I hope it isn’t only one.
Surely more than one. It's definitely going to be more than enough to manage with
Ya because currently I only use 3 parameters in the pins.
Aren't there six in the pins?
Can the rats and frogs off type lance and Bruno this week at 2.5k?
I'm pretty confident they could off type anyone
Even at 2.5k?
Yes
Ya there’s 6 in the pins but I use 3 parameters that suits me the most.
The other 3 I basically don’t use.
I should be testing Mina for fairy-weak 2.5k
What I might do with presets, is make incomplete "cores" that I finish off according to team
I guess without zone, on type 2.5K sometimes is easier than 2K. 300 for standard damage reduction, 150 for zone and then the others like interference immunity, striker damage x3, physical/ special if applicable
Today is the special CS right?
Yes
Would this work? Thinking about 850 or 1k probably

Sc Steven applies no evasion...thrice
But then what to do
Tbh with sc steven i think 2.5k should probably be possible 
I'm using the On Type Pre-Sync set
Would it be, really? With what set, and any tips e.g. grids?
I heard lorelei would be the trickiest one
Everyone is 1/5 so grids aren’t anything special
Currently doing it round 1
But if there's a better place to do it I want to hear it
Have you planned out the rest of your cs teams? That’s how i decide when to use certain rounds
Lorelei raises her evasion every time she's hit and sc steven needs to tackle her for fighting rebuff
Ehhh not really, gimme some time (need to go back to do work)
I’d just try it
Unfortunately this is the best roster I have for this cs
The rest...on type what on type
Wait doesn’t 1/5 bea only have +2 crit?

That’s pretty fortunate
She does ye
You can also use grimsley to snatch the evasiveness if you want.
They’re using 1/5 ssa cyn and sc steven tho
I'm aiming for either 4.2k or 7.5k if you guys think the latter is doable
Giovanni Sycamore Zinnia
What does SC Steven do?
-6 to all stats but evasion and accuracy but has the no evasion status
-1 rebuff SeUN +3 PMUN
No Evasion
He debuffs spatk and spdef 
Hmmm seems unnecessary
Does he idk I don’t have him
This for example (team from hard), will have cbede fold in no time
He only debuffs atk, def, and spe
I swear when i see him a every stay is debuffed lel
I’d rather have scsteven be used with mallow or something
At least her nuke would guarantee a ko on mid
Pre sync
Bede is really bulky and with flinch his survivability should be fine
I don't mind raising maylene either tbh
time to learn how to air slash properly
I can try it out myself if you want, but ofc my winona star and levels are higher
actually not too much of a problem, since I can 4* winona, sorta kinda
Winona star count is pretty irrelevant
Winona shouldn’t need any power up since flinch
Winona’s star level doesn’t matter outside of slightly improving bedes already amazinf gauge
Which Bede is this?
The key would be timing rain imo, you don't want to use a rain until just after Zinnia syncs first time
NC as shown above
Oh lol
Oh god the levels tho 
well I could always 120 them
I just haven't grabbed the bottles
from events
does zinnia benefit from rain?
Yes
I would sync with zinnia first for dragon ascent, then bede for those sync buffs
No
I have winona gridded iirc
Not bad if you gridded aggrivation 1
Good practice, however you might not need to since Winona can consistently flinch most attacks
Winona has a 60%(?) flinch chance which as high as jt gets excluding ssLyra and 5/5 Steven
Yep, 60% if gridded
oh my zinnia isn't gridded
I can partially grid her (technically I can fully grid her but there are 5 teams here, let's not do that)
what grids should I get
Go for the weather move muptiplier, not the sync one
Just go for weather surge 3
Is that attack node really necessary?
Yes
It is not but 
Having tried to use zinnia off type without the zone
It’s a really noticeable diff
This is on-type!
No
Bruh
Only dragon ascent
Team guide plzzzzzzzzzz..
Have you tried this battle?
It loses aerial ace for dragon ascent (a flying move)
#1006331343300473022 and #1010307000346878062
Well Zinnia won't work differently in MM
If you weren't making rain then that is the issue
Zinnia needs the weather
If you want to get carried / beat CS without having to learn much game knowledge then ig I can help you. CSMM or Hard Mode?
CS MM
does cbede grid matter?
I am done with fighting weak..
I mean yes but also I didn't have weather surge so really it's all downhill
I haven't gridded him at all
She has an innate passive weather boost, the grid is the second weather boost
If it worked for hard mode try without for MM
How many points did you get, and with what team?
alright, which preset should I go with
Your CBede is 1/5 i tprobably doesn't have anything on grid
Fighting Flying Ghost Fairy Rock
2.5k Neo hop - ex bea - sonia
Lorelei: Ash Volkner a third
Bruno: Serena Archie skyla
Agatha: Gio Roxanne a third
Lance: CMarnie And others idk lel
Rock: SSHilda Blaine a speed support
Oh nice going considering you seem to be a casual player
For rock on type I have Olivia but I don't have good supp to her
This is a bad idea?
You want a better spatk buffer than Leaf
ehhh lemme filter by x sp atk all
Ash Volkner Erika. Erika can tank trust. Plus you can get that free support option for free points.
There's always Roxaaaaneeeee
Problem is, where to put the ash team 
For flying weak
Eh ig
I was about to say fairy, but ground moves be like:
Also consider parameters. Don’t want to screw yourself over later.
Well, they're all good lol. Try Giocat I guess since already levelled up, or Rosa.
Oh Liza is also already levelled up.
I have three of type teams
One is ash
Second is ss Steven
Both with supp of zone
And also frogs
Does sselesa have xspatk mpr at 1/5?
so yeah, which one? giocat? or liza? I remember rosa folding
Yes, she does.
eeeh I'll go with giocat
he's partially gridded already
with dire hit all mp refresh
that's, er, not probably the best grid
I'd go with Liza for the spdef (I think Agatha is special?) but Giocat is a nice pair
But yes change dire hit all mp refresh for spatk buff
I mean sure I can do that too
Oh nvm there’s 3/5 sshilda and 1/5 maxie. Don’t know if they can offtype tho.
Agatha is special, sides use icy wind and blizzard when mid goes down.
Then I'd use Liza for simplicity. Throw some
onto her if you need to.
But on type is easy
Sselesa, Giovanni, random tank/gauge management should work for ghost weak
No fire weak today
3/5 ss Hilda is free on any stage.
That should be free lel
And I have 5/5 allister
Tbh idk how to build an Allister team xdd
Giovanni my free and my beloved
The only team I use for him is sselesa, allister, koga, and that requires grids
People used rosa, giovanni, and a random third depending on the fight, and that works
+2 spatk and an opportunity for better support should be more than enough
When Rosa is EXed it's a pretty easy choice for early stage accounts
i mean if there's an issue, u can always sleep hax with a decent core
ooo rosa giovanni lucian
5/5
Oh I didn’t see him
If you want to be extra safe, try rosa giovanni bpmorty for the defensive support and occasional flinches
Seem fine to me
Not sure if Cyrus should be someone else
Cyrus does like rain for his hydropump tho
What dafaq what is acerola doin there?
Err, flinching?
We were literally just talking about how good thr rosa giovanni team comp is
I mean ig if you’re not using sandstorm for DPS on rock weak, that’s fine
But otherwise I’d suggest otherwise
rosa isn't EX though
and she probably won't be for some time (and by that I mean next week)
Do you have a team for blue tho
These should work, although Roxanne tragically underused
errrr mayziken ss steven whoever?
Oh lol
I mean, I could always slot roxanne instead
Also hard or mm
I like Roxanne way more than liza
Roxanne needs grid for spdef though
Can’t you just replace Acerola with Agatha?
...so, rosa giovanni...who?
Or another flincher?
No BP pair is that great at 1/5
point taken
Um. Surgechu??
- don't tank with him 2) he's not that frail!
I think when you come back just try your teams!
Come back with questions if tehre are issues with them
yeah maybe winona instead?...wait isn't winona already on zinnia's team
mostly I have issues with which preset I should take for most of the teams
is 7.5k doable
Eh Acerola shouldn’t be that valuable if you already have gacha units for Blue
is the fighting team overkill and I should save ssa cynthia for someone else
Lol don't worry about overkill it's Tuesday and you have infinite resets
ex ssa cynthia - bea - sc steven
I don't have infinite time

Replace scs with maylene

Unless ssacynthia has focus group
Great minds
sure, should I place sc steven somewhere else
Actually perhaps this is a mistake. Gauge issues.
wait what will happen to lorelei evasion
With whoever can nuke ontype
bad news, on fighting is the only place I can nuke on type
unless we're counting gio shadow ball
Nuke means sync
Maylene tm has sure hit. Use it on turn 6 or something
even worse, the only on type nuke I have is on fighting
(bea)
Ok
sycamore doesn't hit with his sync
gio is psychic
zinnia is dragon
mayziken is fire
last week would be so much easier as MM
alas
Waitaminute repeat the debuffs scs does
iirc it’s atk def spe?
Perfect for Zinnia, wait that means Winona or cbede goes
Frick
Can use acerola@for zinnia lel
Bruh
so sycamore is horn leeching? or moonblasting?
tf is this syca team
swampert cyrus ss blue it is then
Oh wait u have archie 
Orrrr we could make another water team
Archie cserena some random, but minor spatk buffer
...uh, probably not me (if you're talking about kyogre)
Or groudon
Uh
I haven't posted my water roster
At all
I am dumb
Anyways free offtype clear lesgo
Fighting done, offtype wildard team done
Roxanne giovanni flincher/sleeper? done? idk you gotta test that out.
If your trying flinch, go for that additional effect parameter. Makes astonish aggrivation 100% 
I would still go for the mono water team
I did 2k with it back in the day
Yeah already swapped sycamore with swampert
Any grids I need to have
Cyrus is hydro pump gridded
Cyrus and that’s about it
Vigilance ls on ssb is appreciated but shouldn’t be necessary
So, between winona and cbede, do I replace for sc steven
Mudkip is sick don't diss the kip
And ss steven mayziken...I guess I can go with sc steven for this if only for PMUN, but defense ss steven...yoink
(For blue)
Nah if the fighting team works, then no reason to change it
Especially if scs is useless everywhere else
Any thoughts about rounds?
Nothing outstanding except added effects for guaranteed flinch. You gotta be the judge of the rest.
Sp Atk would be ideal if enemy is sp and my team is phys
Alas gio mewtwo is sp
Noted
Oh shit I just realized ssb isn’t exed
Don’t know if it affects cyrus’ dps to the point where it’s unbeatable tho
He’s still super stronk
If u have any spare support ex pairs, just throw it in
Man I can’t wait for reset
I don’t remember if I tried using non EX SSBlue for 2k, tho I do remember using non ex ssb
Grass weak gonna be fun with my insane team lol
I have to make 5 grass dps teams 
Nah its probably just unlucky that lapras went for aoe and it crit
not even second turn
Crit is super unlukcy
Are you using that Strike point option?
Bea is fragile so e
yeah I thought cynthia could tank so I went with masochist option
but whoops AoE
The reason it's masochist is because it requires resetting for rng 
Aw hell nah
Not in CS
I could deal with it in LG cuz of thr bullshit we’ve been able to pull off, but for CS?
Then dont' run masochist
I always reset for good rng even when I’m about to win a fight
If I don’t like the outcome by then 3 ez reset
ok 2.5k fighting done

Nah bro aim for at least 10k 
You’r ealready on the road to doing 12.5k, and one of them is free since flinch gaming
Actually blue is also free since you can get an extra param for flinch gameing
Also it would be pretty impressive for your account age
actually who would even benefit from round 2
hydro pump is special
zinnia is special (?) for dragon ascent
Actually no
Gauge: 4 | Power: 192 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
Lowers the user's Defense and Sp. Def by 1 stat rank.
Steven (Anniversary 2021) & Rayquaza
Zinnia & Rayquaza
oh she isn't special for dragon ascent
and dragon ascent...is flying
why
dragon is in its name
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I can't do that because then gio or cyrus would be kneecapped with that sp atk round
LMAO
Just pray for flinches xp
on-type pre sync tank friendly time?...
poor bede won't survive masochist
Even with no def buffs
You underestimate him 
since he has no def buffs vs ssa cynthia +6 on both stats first turn
do I really?
oh well hope this team has no issues
flinch gaming with winona
lesgo
What was the team again? Zinnia Winona NC Bede?
Sometimes it’s good to just go for it and see what happens. Than adjust accordingly.
Yeah
Pretty sure that Zinnia team is super solid already
eeee its me again
alright if im gonna go by the teams winston gave me earlier, who should i fight first
What is the dude smoking?
you can do in any order, just avoid fighting Lorelei and Agatha on R3
Why is ingo and maylene in the same team
noted
to fill type medal?
At least change maylene to brawly for guaranteed def debuffs + pots or something

Maylene is there for Sure Hit effect and accuracy buff (in grid)
I originally had ingo elsewhere but moved him there cuz i thought solgaleo needed him more
But yeah, brawly would be better
Not needed for solgaleo methinks
reading this after i invested an ungodly amount of orbs and level books into her
…i’m so sorry
Slowgaleo could use the gauge support. And brawly providing defence debuffs for the special attacking focus blast.
Also Maylene has on a roll on her grid same with brawly
Joey coming to the rescue 
Also maylene has better speed than brawly
Maylene is a great unit so you could use her elsewhere if needed, like with Emmet for example
Yes
Is this their first cs run or no
This is their roster ^
Skyla, emmet, Acerola carried me with rock weak for the longest time
This is their 2nd week, and just need to fill the types i mentioned
So that they can unlock mm
Elec, fight, ground, psy, bug, fairy, dark, normal?
Yea
Are those the only ones?
^
oh wow they did work the first run
Goddamn for a first timer they completed some niche types
for the grass cs, we dont need the 18 types anymore right
Nope, Master Mode is unlocked immediately
niceee
Do I go for lodge sycamore for grass Cs?
Or should I just ignore the grass weak and just go for lodge blue

7 days is...a bit sus for lvl 100, but I can try
you can always do offtype
true I suppose
Or posion
Edited (Winston’s teams but better
)
- Solgaleo, Maylene, Ingo - same
- NCMarnie, Marley, Hugh - hugh tank trust
- Viola, Giovanni, SSElesa - same
- Diantha, Torchic, Skyla/Lana - rock weakness tanking a rock stage? Y e s.
- Emmet acerola caitlin - double psychic medal coverage
. Use MGB whenever you need.
What the
Can this do it ? My brendan is not doing so much damage lol
Even after the 2 support syncs damage are mid
Do you even know basic teambuilding?
are you sure you didnt pick Special Damage Reduction by accident?
Oh yeah i forgot to change it.
Bruh
Thanks.
Change cbede so you can save him for later
yeah that would be indeed wiser
I just woke up and i tought this was normal cs for some reason
Add sun or random dps unit
Well not actually random but you get what I mean
Oh or speed buffer for inertia or something
Nah just get sun
How hard is neocs?
Just requires some creativity to deal with the multiple of the same weakness.But slap a sun unit with Brendan and watch his leaf storm clean up.
Ok serena was quite difficult off typing 
She kept either killing my strikers or killing my kris (yes I brought rain cus i went in blind)
And the endure caught me off guard
Had fun ngl
Fighting fire with fire 
maybe i should've done brendan instead but i thought this was funnier
Damn i should of done that 
im most proud that i used selene for this
sc steven coming in clutch
Should of used serena instead of archie on my kris ethan team
hmm...R3 Lance or R3 Bruno?
Same lol, went in blind with rain and got deleted.
ccalem with raingear saved the day 
I'm so happy i got to use mallow for ncerena
I had to disable her with ss lyra
Wait where to fight her
New champion stadium
Special CS
The one where all the weaknesses are grass
Also doing mono, it’s harder than usual mono team
not enough supports 
I have exactly 15 grass types not counting eggs
im doing mono as well, trying to get Selene deny the left sides
Selene why are you so disappointing
im doing LBlue, BP Erika and her
i used lblue and bp erika with lsycamore
i love how she needs to have +3 speed, max atk and restrain to one shot the side by first sync
This new Cs, how tough is it?
pretty ez ngl lmao
it has the strenght of kanto cs, the only difficulty is that they're all grass weak
just off type
For new Cs, r4 grimsly is fine?
I went r4 Bruno
I went R4 Bertha
My YOLO parameters almost worked if it weren't for Brendan being 2/5
Water Shuriken?
yeah
WS is the real problem
And it's affected by Power on Hit too
So each of those Water Shurikens will hit exponentially harder
bruh
I guess those who used SS Lyra before Serena never expected her Water Shuriken
Brendan dies from sync even through light screen 
i had to use her for round 4 
15 grass type done, had to stall 2 times tho 
I have enough grass pairs to fill 15 slots but it’s better to use egg in some cases tbh
Is that Water Shuriken?
aw, shit
guess today is a bad idea to ask for CC help
considering everyone is busy with Special CC
sync
water shuriken is ok
i just get one shot by sync
anyway, mono grass is done, with 1 egg 
...aw, hell, how am I supposed to reach 12k points?
just off type
...I mean in terms of settings
also, I assume I have to check back tomorrow for help with regular CC?
pin has suggested parameters, just use your strongest offtype team.
oh regular CS, ontype is even easier 
for regular CS, I was asking
R3 for Bruno or for Lance?
and I never got a response
so I assumed that today is just a bad day to ask for questions regarding regular CS
since everyone is so hyperfocused on the Special CS
I tried to check the pin, but...I keep on losing track of the suggested parameters there
Make your own
bruh
I am not good enough to make my own
that's not even the first time I have said that either
you don't have the time to build your own team/parameters but you spent hours just for a clear
How did you stall twice ?? Lodge Syca poison ?

the idea is that I shouldn't be spending hours in the first place
...damn, now I also don't know if I should go R1 Lorelei or R1 Agetha
you could've done 15 without poison stall tbh
yeah but i don't really want to retry and optimize
probably later
you can stall 3 times
it's just kanto, you can just copy your old teams and slap some extra parameters 
...I don't think you understand
I said we need a separate thread for Special CS so that people can help for Special CS advice there while advice for regular CS can still be asked here
instead of spending time on complaining, you can try building parameters instead
I wouldn't have to spend time complaining if people would just help me
just say you're lazy and want people build teams for you 
I stalled with Sabrina + SS Leaf + Wormadam,
Torterra + Seviper + Ariados,
and finally BP Erika + SS Blue + Lodge Lillie
I never said that
right now, I am trying to decide what order I should do the Kanto CS this week
but i also don't understand how you've been playing for years and done 10k countless time but still don't know how to build team from scratch
if I know what order I should do, I can build the teams myself
well you should probably save the "increased status damage/effects" for the stage that is harder for you to stall
read
if you read, you'll know what problem I have
Bertha can be brute forced with Sun
build your team first, then choose the order of parameter depends on your teams
I can't build my team without knowing the order, though

if a damage dealer uses special moves, do that team in R3
because my teams would actually change depending on the order
against Bruno, the "Reflect" condition would be nice but can also be saved for Bertha
then again Reflect is useful for Grimsley too
you should definitely pick a Toxic stall team in any case
I have two different strikers that would make both R1 Lorelei and R1 Agetha possible candidates
in fact, try to make as much as possible
and I just can't decide between the two
cos 3 of the stages can be stalled
just fk pick 1, if it doesn't work change it, that's how everyone does it
...okay, let me ask the question differently then...maybe then I will finally get an answer:
what's better, Anni Lillie for R1 Agetha or SC Guzma for R1 Lorelei?
it's not like our suggestion help you clear in 1 try anyway and you'll complain again
I want to make use of R1's gimmick of move gauge recharging faster
how about planning the team first
wait is he talking about about normal or special stadium?
that's what I am trying to do, dammit
hence my question
whoever needs gauge like alillie, but in the end that parameter doesn't matter at all 
if you know to manage your gauge and queue
yeah the gauge increase only is remotely significant for 4 gaugers
Also round 4 being half sync is a jerk move
made a mistake doing bertha round 4 tbh so had to brute force with sslyra 
I mean, that's why I asked my question: I have two strikers that need move gauge support
one striker is ghost type, the other is fighting type
SC Lillie is Lunala right?
thats Anni Lillie
...err...hold on
My planned teams worked for the most part but with plenty of resets haha
I only had to change 1 team
Selene got kicked out to make room for Ramos
I find Lunala honestly doesn't need gauge support
also depends on your other team members. their speed stat, speed buffs, move gauge acceleration...
an EX brain Sync + Moongeist Beam can kinda just wipe out the stage by itself
granted, this is with ghost zone support
hmm...Guzma can recharge move gauge on his own by knocking down opponents, while Lillie has nothing, so...I guess Lillie is hungrier?
I guess R1 Agatha then
Lillie has Rejuvenate for one more Moongeist
but otherwise yeah, she needs gauge help/speed support
alright, R1 Agatha it is then
how about trying yourself, because not everyone use the same team
it's been 15 mins and you can test both of them in 5 mins
yeah, maybe your Brain Sync might not even KO the sides
Bertha is turning me into soup
That's Anni Lillie, SC Lillie is with Rimbombee
just shut down the sand
Or was it Cutiefly?
SC Lillie is with Polteageist
I don't have good weather setters 😭
egg mon?
just bring someone to set weather
Ohhh
I mean even Blaine should do the trick
u guys think i can on type grass weak special cs? 
Man you guys are so true
12.5k
you can but maybe for 2 rounds, just offtype the rest
I tried it with may but she couldn't outpace
I think u have just enough tools
but if you want to preserve, you could always just Toxic stall
gonna do dps dawn 
Just be careful with Serena
yeah def save your A-game for Serena
I ALMOST did it with may and skyla and sc shauna lmao
is my a-game ss leaf
okay, I now also have decided on R3 for Bruno
the aoes this week are too much 
And then you get to Serena and she uses Water Shuriken
Take this as an example so you can do it again next time, it's not hard at all, and you kinda figure it out yourself
Round 1: Move gauge acceleration. (allilie needs gauge so this round for Agatha)
Round 2: Special damage reduction at start (most fighting type are physical, lorelei use sp atk so play lorelei this round)
Round 3: Additional effects are more likely to occur (flying team has some flinch user so this round is for bruno)
Round 4: When a sync pair faints, debuffs the stats of all allies (xerneas is tanky so should keep your team alive in this round -> lance)
Serena is meant to be fought with Celebi
Rats do sweep serena tho
so she's not easy

I barely got her with nuke Tsareena
I have to make it to her first before I can attempt rats lul
I used half sync para with rats
lorelei and Bertha are bullying me though
Nuke+thunder+bolt tackle
The stage dies
oh yeah I keep forgetting to use the rats
R1 Bertha v Gardenia SSErika Erika. Easy fight, didn’t need to reset. Hard counter lol
R2.
R2 Grimsley v LSycamore SSLeaf Lyra. Same as above, was surprised how hard Lyra’s nuke hit as the fight dragged on.
R3 Bruno v Ramos LGloria Dawn. The toughest fight for me and I’m not sure why. Initial team had Selene instead of Ramos but it wasn’t working. I still can’t use sleep teams properly LMAO! Reset a lot here.
R4 Lorelei v Mallow SConia LBlue. Not as bad as Bruno but had to reset once because I wasted too many moves haha. Teeter dance saved my dumb ass honestly.
R5 Cerena v Brendan SSLyra Rosa. Physical reduction. Alright my biggest mistake here was using special attacker haha. Reset quite a few times because I just can’t juggle flinch properly, but nowhere near as frustrating as Bruno.
I didn't use any grass type since they all suck
Fun event but uh I’m not 5 monotyping teams again LMAO
I cheesed lorelei with Sabrina, Venusaur, and Lodge Wormadam
the venusaur can be any Toxic unit tbh
even Tangela could do
You can toxic her?!
well water mono type should be a breeze 



