Champion Stadium

[dark osprey]

Should do justice and give leaf her own team

[rotund lagoon]

Those are not something to gloss over

[dark osprey]

Relentless leaf

[undone ether]

Chicken :o~

[rotund lagoon]

Hm, maybe

[old orchid]

you have her 5/5 right?

[undone ether]

Bertha : SS Morty, SS Erika, Groudon
Lorelei :
Grismley :
Bruno : Brendan, NY Dawn,

Serena : NC Serena, Chicken, NC Calem
Something like this i guess.

[gritty sentinel]

i think im ready but im relying on my offtypes to win

[undone ether]

I can 5/5 SS Leaf tbh

[rotund lagoon]

4/5……..

[old orchid]

[rotund lagoon]

I wanna 5/5 mine so bad

[old orchid]

these teams are really good, but i would replace Sabrina with Cyrus or another Dragon type to take advantage of zone

Lucas already buffs max spatk and crit by himself

[gritty sentinel]

okay

should i replace ssb with redlax?

[old orchid]

SSB there is fine

[gritty sentinel]

so redlax not needed?

[rotund lagoon]

Blue can give Df buffs, better to have that

[old orchid]

yeah

oh dont use Sycamore's TM in Marnie's team

Gradual Healing ruins Mind over Matter

[gritty sentinel]

oh i forgot about that

ill just redlax in

i want to see how many syncs i can get in

[rotund lagoon]

Redlax in Marnie’s team….?

Why?

[gritty sentinel]

2 syncs it probably over for that stage

[gritty sentinel]

eh idk

but hes there for fun

[rotund lagoon]

will not work there

And C Marnie maxes Crit

[old orchid]

you should use him to carry a weak ontype dmg dealer

[rotund lagoon]

Just because he cannot be used now does not mean there aren’t other places to use him

[dark osprey]

just being picky here but could use SS Lyra & SC Sonia in different team i guess

but yeah. those teams will do either ways

[gritty sentinel]

hm okay

wont redlax be better on ss erika?

[dark osprey]

any on type yeah

better with ss erika since propulsion plus defense debuffs as well

[rotund lagoon]

If you want to use Red so bad, replace Maxie.

[undone ether]

Bertha : SS Morty, SS Erika, Groudon
Lorelei : Brendan, Lodge Dawn, Lucian
Grismley : SS Leaf, Ball Guy, Janine/C.Iris
Bruno : Lodge Sycamore, NY Dawn, Sycamore

Serena : NC Serena, Chicken, NC Calem
this should be good right?

[gritty sentinel]

i mean i dont need to use red but wont it be better than maxie?

[dark osprey]

ok. i guess u want someone to ask. which chicken? there's fiery chicken and also burnt chicken imo

[dark osprey]

maxie does overlap there slightly but 2 damage dealers over one is also a thing. however, if taking SS Erika in without Maxie you could take the special attack damage reduction paramater

[gritty sentinel]

i think its safer to use maxie since i have ss erika at 2/5

[undone ether]

Alola Chicken

[dark osprey]

have no idea who is alola chicken

[undone ether]

Selene

i usually do Full Defense

as much DEF, HP and whatnot

that i can xD

[dark osprey]

oh. why like that with Selene?

[undone ether]

cuz she's a chicken with her hat

[dark osprey]

for a team with Wikstrom, Molayne and an attack plus crit buffer, would it be better to sync with Molayne or with Wikstrom?

i guess wikstrom has a higher nuke but molayne has an easier setup inertia imo

[void wyvern]

Molyane has flinch hitter and intertia well Wikstrom has double down and critical strikes.

Trying to get flinch with Moylane seems like a pain and not being worth it and as long as you can presync Wikstrom does a good job in my experience.

[dark osprey]

yeah. i honestly am not thinking about flinch hitter but just the inertia itself seems nice

but yeah both together do make it kinda simple pre sync i.e

ah yeah. wikstrom innate nuke is lowering attack

i forgot about that

guess that's why his nuke was not hitting as hard

[crystal notch]

Help a newbie out. This is a terrible non synergizing team, probably

On hard and not MM

Round 2 btw

[void wyvern]

Yes the team could probably use some improvement.

Can you show your grass units please?

[crystal notch]

Yeah, errr

[void wyvern]

How long have you been playing for?

[crystal notch]

Uh, give or take 7 months of break in between...two weeks?

[void wyvern]

I see. Champion stadium requires a lot of resources, to level up many units and to have some of them at a good move to grid them. There doesn’t need to be a rush to beat it and to focus on the events and gather resources.

[crystal notch]

Noted

[undone ether]

@crystal notch if you have time, keep farming the Co-op events

[void wyvern]

Once you can get your units to 120, then you stand a good chance of making progress.

[undone ether]

it gives you Level Up Materials to level 1 to 100 anyone u got

[crystal notch]

I mean, if you want to look at my leveled roster...
I got all the equipments from co-op, but I suppose the books will help

[undone ether]

the books will definitely help but iirc it should be ending soon 😭

[void wyvern]

Here’s a tip, if you set up a rare cache team in lodge. It will give you a very steady flow of books.

[crystal notch]

I did that alr, actually

I have these many books

I just dunno who to level

[void wyvern]

I see I see.

[tame gust]

The answer to your question is "Yes"

[void wyvern]

There really isn’t a reason to not level up units

[crystal notch]

I guess I'm just overwhelmed by who exactly I should raise

[tame gust]

the biggest bottleneck is sync orbs.

[crystal notch]

Yeah true sync orbs also

[void wyvern]

Who did you beat for round 1?

[crystal notch]

Agatha

[dark osprey]

hmmm. i guess for the time being you could try a team with Silver (built for solar beam), Blaine and misty maybe for special defense buffs

[void wyvern]

Actually, we’re going to use SS Steven for this

[crystal notch]

With vespiquen kyurem and koga

[dark osprey]

oh ok. my bad

[void wyvern]

Sorry, I came off a bit forceful there. I apologize

[dark osprey]

no no. better to not stop the flow. my bad

[void wyvern]

But yeah. With SS Steven, we can brute force Loreili.

We can use Cyrus to cheese out Bruno.

But what about lance?

Slowgaleo!

@crystal notch want to try and beat Loreili?

[crystal notch]

Sure

I mean I can't do the 18 elements this week anyways

Since there's only 15 slots

[crystal notch]

Side note: Honestly it's just that I don't have a grasp of who's good and who's not (esp in a team) and obviously I don't have enough sync orb grids to raise all of them

[void wyvern]

So here’s the plan.

You’re going to use SS Steven, Roxanne, and piers.

Use attack! With Steven and mash psyco boost. Use Roxanne’s trainer move to boost your speed and use piers to help fill up gauge.

Sync with Steven, win!

[crystal notch]

piers as the tank?

or roxanne?

[void wyvern]

Piers should be

[crystal notch]

noted

lemme get my last ball guy sticker+

and then I'll reattempt

[crystal notch]

for this, do I just...go through the tier list one by one

that sucks though, esp since the tier list isn't search-able

[crystal notch]

ooo yeah!

I won

cyrus cheese??? how???

oh wait for round 3 is it?

[void wyvern]

Okay, Cyrus

Use Cyrus, Winona, and SS Blue

Use Cyrus’s team to setup his stuff, use blue’s TM to boost crit. Setup rain after syncing with Blue and go wild with hydro pump.

Do you have resources to grid cyrus?

[crystal notch]

Yeah, I have like 9k orbs

[void wyvern]

Good good

Let me get a picture for you

This is all you need for Cyrus

[crystal notch]

Done and gridded

How do yall learn this tbh

[void wyvern]

I was self taught, and I learned by fooling around and trying things out.

[crystal notch]

I see

[zealous karma]

Kinda basic understanding of the game there’s some pretty helpful stuff in #1010307000346878062 and #1092823068256251945

[crystal notch]

Noted

I've read through them already

[void wyvern]

Every expert was once a beginner.

[crystal notch]

True, true

Thank you so much! Will report back

Tbh I wouldn't have thought of using winona

Why would I sync with ss blue though? Just for extra tankiness?

I wanna know

And do I go for hydro cannon or water pulse on blastoise?

[void wyvern]

Because syncing with Cyrus takes away from using hydro pump for one turn.

Normally on dragon weak we’d use his sync, but here. It’s better for blue to sync to give us more hydro pump and endurance team wide.

[void wyvern]

Water pulse. Never use hydro cannon unless you’re memeing.

[crystal notch]

Noted

[crystal notch]

Yeah its things like this that I need to learn

[void wyvern]

It’s learning the why and trying to piece the logic together. The more you understand why things happen. The better you can understand decisions.

[sacred rover]

anyone did a run of 12500 but its all recomended mons?

[crystal notch]

Yeps! I'm here to learn!

I guess the reason no hydro cannon is because ss blue isn't dps anyways and it hogs the bar

[void wyvern]

Correct,

[white gale]

sorry if this has already been answered but will the new grass-weak CS have the same points/parameter system as the normal?

[tired sleet]

Yup

The MM rewards have been datamined tho, and they’re slightly different

[white gale]

oh.. where are those rewards? I must have missed them

[tired sleet]

https://pastebin.com/3DSwba8W

The E4 also give 100 each, and Champ Serena gives 300

[white gale]

oo gem rewards is nice

certificates of excelllence are nice I guess too

oh there's a move candy too

[devout sluice]

Wow, a CS giving out gems.

[swift swan]

gems in CS? in this economy?

I love this type-specific CS already

[manic kiln]

they should give regular CS gems too, you only have to beat all of them, even at 0 points so people have no reasons to complain

[swift swan]

they only gave us the champion stadium bundle

[paper summit]

no reasons to complain? do you know what the internet is?

there will always be people complaining no matter what

[manic kiln]

sure some people can't even beat hard mode

[crystal notch]

Got it to work on my second try! Yikes palkia really does hit hard

To be fair being round 3 helps immensely ig

Now, solgaleo time for lance

[cosmic vortex]

It gives us level 150 certs? thanks Winston...i kinda drought a bit as i dont have lodge steven and this is good news for me

[crystal notch]

Tried out this team

It's slow

[old orchid]

let Sonia tank

replace Cynthia with a crit buffer

[crystal notch]

hmm then who do I swap cynthia with

ah

errr I'll comb through my roster for crit buffers

throw out some ideas before I spend 30 mins combing through?

leaf eevee?

[old orchid]

Leafvee cant buff crit

i cant recommend without seeing your roster

[crystal notch]

gimme a min

tap to expand on the photos

I have all the exp I need to raise anyone

(hard, not CSMM btw)

[old orchid]

Piers

[crystal notch]

used him alr in the previous rounds

this is round 4

ss blue also used

there's...hop

[old orchid]

yeah Hop is good

[crystal notch]

or cobalion, although I'm not sure if I can run two MCs in a team

[old orchid]

you can

[crystal notch]

which one is better?

[old orchid]

btw i dont see Player & Torchic in your roster, have you gotten him yet?

Hop is better, but i would recommend using Cobalion if you havent filled Fighting yet

[crystal notch]

I finished all the story

[crystal notch]

noted

[old orchid]

you should check again

Torchic is from Calem's chapter iirc

[crystal notch]

hmm alright lemme check

[old orchid]

its a very good support, especially for new players

because of its mixed offensive buffs

[crystal notch]

oh I didn't finish calem's

LMAO

because there's a 3 exploration place node blocking the way

for blue I'm planning to run

mayziken + sc steven + ...someone to tank, I guess

maybe cynthia as that tank?

but then in that case might as well go for hop with lance now

[old orchid]

seems good

[crystal notch]

wait will mayziken be counted as fire or fighting

LMAO

[old orchid]

Fire

the medal only counts the sync type

[crystal notch]

ahhhh

I see

but yeah my team making skills is in shambles

torchic obtained

[trail smelt]

Btw you can filter to see which sync pairs can buff crits from known moves

[crystal notch]

noted

annnd hard is done

now, to wait for 2nd week for 18 types

[crystal notch]

@old orchid @void wyvern thank you for your help

also, any thoughts about which ground/grass type to raise?

I'm missing ground, ghost (I can use phoebe ig), grass (nooo snivy I don't even have her ex), and fairy (sycamore EZ)

[old orchid]

Congrats

I recommend offtyping Ground and Fairy

Ghost has some options in Giovanni and Shauntal

[crystal notch]

next time when kanto rolls around, do I need to redo hard mode?

[old orchid]

No

[crystal notch]

nice

well I still need to bring someone for that ground piece 18/18

[old orchid]

Actually Mina is alright, but she demands a lot of things

[old orchid]

You can use a Ground type as a filler and let the dmg dealer carries

[crystal notch]

noted

mudsdale/that alolan ranch girl it is

[crystal notch]

there's always sycamore to fill in the piece so I'm not worried really

[old orchid]

Mina is the better choice since she has dps on par with Sycamore and a good ontype sync

You can invest on her later

[crystal notch]

hooo really? what on earth

alright

what should be my priority rn?

I did all the faq I think

[old orchid]

Fully grid Sycamore, Hop, Ghetsis, Giovanni, Skyla, Torchic first

[crystal notch]

oh, alright

[old orchid]

And EX 5 - 6 supports as well

They can carry you through harder content

[crystal notch]

orb farm it is? also grids, I should look to sparky's doc, correct?

do I need to put them in preset

to work

[old orchid]

Yup

[crystal notch]

or just upgrading the grid would alr put in preset 1

[old orchid]

Make multiple presets

Changing presets doesnt cost more orbs

[trail smelt]

Yeah we have space for 4

[crystal notch]

noted

lodge...I shouldn't have to worry about speedrunning anyone

for free lodge pairs right

should I exchange my lodge stones for orb

[old orchid]

For lodge focus on getting support pairs first if you dont have any faves.

I would save at least 1000 lodge stones to exchange for 2 dupes of a support lodge pair

[crystal notch]

noted

I mean, it's still friendship lvl 100

that's a long time anyways

[gritty sentinel]

these type specifics cs are coming back right

[old orchid]

this is the first time it appeared

[grim bison]

After some testing, here are my final grass teams.

[mellow linden]

Whether they do more depends on the feedback they get, most likely

[trail smelt]

I think it’s gonna be bloody good fun haha

I sure hope it returns

[grim bison]

I hope they make more like this

Honestly it should be a monthly thing

[trail smelt]

Hmm it just occurred to me

Assuming it’s only the Neo Champions, I wonder how many type weaknesses are available

… oh dang it just occurred to me CCalem and Carnie are both Dark

[keen jasper]

The only common weakness between them is electric

[grim bison]

fairy too

[old orchid]

and Bug

[trail smelt]

Yeah but remember that Barry EX is weak to grass

Pokemas doesn’t care about dual typings haha

[old orchid]

thats the only case tho

[mellow linden]

That’s lack of foresight at Piplup’s evolution rather than not caring about dual-typing. They haven’t had such an issue since afaik

[dark osprey]

Since C Serena is weak to electric and they've made her the champion for grass weak, they could do something based on dual typings I guess

Like C Hop can be for psychic weak champion stadium maybe

[proud axle]

Hm. By the time we run out of weakness types, we'll likely have another set of Neo Champs

Might be able to do all 17 possible weakpoints (18, if they find a way to give Normal Type an advantage)

[dark osprey]

Yeah true. There's also no rule that a single neo champ will be there only for a single weakness

So C Serena electric may still come

[mellow linden]

And Bug, and Fighting, and Fairy

[spring fable]

Please recommend me 2 other main dps, currently shortlisted silver, ss Erika and brendan

[main crow]

I've heard Lodge Gloria is pretty decent

[mellow linden]

Gardenia, Lodge Sycamore, and Lodge Gloria are all solid options

Dawn has an actually decent Sync nuke, funnily enough

[spring fable]

oh didnt know gardenia was remotely good

[mellow linden]

Her grid is pretty nice

[spring fable]

does she nuke?

[mellow linden]

More Leaf Storm spam

One of her grid tiles means she’s immune to stat drops while it’s Sunny

So she can fire off Leaf Storm without care without needing Dauntless

[spring fable]

damn

they should give some of those to brendan

[mellow linden]

Maybe in a Power Boost one day

[proud axle]

I'd almost be sad if Brendan gets it, since it makes Dauntless feel less like cheating

[quaint solar]

What is the new pre/post sync
I don't see it in the pins

[devout sluice]

Ya, seems I’ll have to switch parameters next week.

Can’t use the same one

[proud axle]

It's much more team-dependent than before

[devout sluice]

Ya you’re right.

[hearty lynx]

Is it possible to get 2.5k on lorelei on type with this?

Been having a tough time

[mellow linden]

You don’t need to monotype

Your Supports’ types don’t matter

If you have a 3/5 Hilbert try him + SS Erika + 3rd pair (probably someone to boost survivability)

[hearty lynx]

I have him 2/5 but can make him 3 i think

[mellow linden]

Don’t candy him, use Hop + Skyla if no 3/5 Hilbert

(Referring to Hilbert + Samurott, who’s a general pool pair and so not worth candying)

[hearty lynx]

Oh hm

Thought u meant the other one

[mellow linden]

I’d have said SS Hilbert or Fall Hilbert if I’d meant one of them

[hearty lynx]

Yeah mb

[proud axle]

Toxic-stalling Lorelei would possibly be an easier 2.5k, but you did specify on-type...

Is it technically on-type if you use Erika's Tangela for it

[mellow linden]

Poison stall is an option if needed, but a 4/5 SS Erika should have little to no issue beating the stage

[swift swan]

New CS starts on Tuesday

I thought they'd start on Monday just because

[zealous karma]

I guess ghry did not want to overwhelm players with a double drop

[bright furnace]

And content drop on separate days is prob good for them too. Something to look forward to

[trail smelt]

Oh I thought it was Wednesday

I’d say it’s a good call not dropping both at the same time haha

[spring zinc]

Would these teams be able to get 7.5k?

[paper summit]

try them? they can get max points just fine even, but it's a matter of you getting used to those difficulties

although, that grass team is not great

SS Leaf has no special attack buffs anywhere

[sonic blaze]

if at type advantage and like 3/5 for your main dps or a support ex at least prolly lol

[paper summit]

and fire doesn't need Skyla in the slightest, SS Morty is a very good gauge battery, you can slot another damage dealer if you want

[zinc island]

Guys i'm a bit confused with this new champion stadium

Are we getting the normal ond

Plus this one with serena?

Or just the one with serena this week?

[trail smelt]

Both

On monday it’s second week of Kanto

On Tuesday (Wednesday? I forget) we get the new CS event

[grim bison]

Lodge Sycamore and Gloria are really good

You can also do striker/nuke Lyra (trust me it's actually good)

Try this

[spring fable]

???

wot

nuker lyra

[swift swan]

if you want to meme, sure

[swift swan]

if you want to be on the safe side, just go for lodge sycamore and lodge gloria

if you want to meme, horn leech sycamore and nuker dawn

[spring fable]

No meme

Looking to 2.5k this

…hopefully

[hearty lynx]

10K now 2.5 to go...

[swift swan]

Poison stalling is always an option! It's much easier with 2.5k

[grim bison]

https://tenor.com/view/urethra-gif-27455842

[gritty sentinel]

i got bored so do you guys have a nuke grid for dawn?

im gonna try clear lorelei with it

2.5k points

nvm her only nuke boosting tile is pecking order

[swift swan]

Yeah lol

[grand steppe]

does Round 1 bonus not apply to Paralysis? I've been trying 8 attempts and not once have they gotten stunned.

[mellow linden]

It should increase the chance that they’re fully paralyzed, but it’s also a low chance in general due to their resistance passives, so I can’t say I’m all that surprised

[grand steppe]

trying to record a Lance showcase, I'm surprised how difficult the pre-sync off-type is

[swift swan]

[dark osprey]

I guess sightly bulkier stage plus being both physical and special attacking gives extra bulk

[onyx ice]

Yes offtype became harder for most unit

Some just don't care at all

Expecially those that don't need zone/weather/terrain to offtype

[grand steppe]

Yeah I underestimated the x3 damage taken. Lorelei surf ends the run, and a swift from Agatha side takes out Lance if he doesn’t have his health higher than 60%

[brave halo]

Just wanted to know, when cs resets for next week, which seems better to use to get the normal part of the hall of fame stuff, both gladion and Hugh are 2/5 if asked

[paper summit]

any reason you are going full monotype? you only need to use 1 pair for each type medal

[brave halo]

Figured I'd try for normal like a lot of the other types

[mellow linden]

You don’t need to monotype for type medal

Monotyping your teams slows down type medal progress, in fact

[brave halo]

Oh well eh I might as well keep them, since I can build a bunch of teams anyway, and I can test my limit sometime if I want in the future

In that case, who should I use out of my normals for cs, cause I don't have much sadly, I had the thought of Leaf but the other trainer move didn't sound helpful, just the potion

Wait I forgot Gio

[mellow linden]

You can just find a damage-dealer who only needs 1 Support and slap a random Normal type in as the 3rd slot for type medal, as well

So as an example, if you need to use Cyrus + Sycamore for Dragon + Fairy pieces of the medal, you can throw a random Normal type in as the 3rd

[brave halo]

I think I got something?

[mellow linden]

If you need to get Fairy and Psychic medals then regular Giovanni + Sycamore + a random Normal type would be better. Classic Giovanni works best on other teams

[brave halo]

I mainly had him for the trainer moves

[mellow linden]

His buffs are largely redundant. Giovanni + Mewtwo can handle his own crit buffs and Sp. Atk. can be handled by Lillie or another dedicated Sp. Atk. buffer

[brave halo]

I guess so

[mellow linden]

I’d recommend planning out your teams for each stage of next week and seeing which teams could be adjusted for better type medal coverage

[brave halo]

I guess to be fair I could always just do red ash with a random normal, but I always got that feeling I'm cheating the system and not thoroughly thinking, if that makes sense

[mellow linden]

Nothing wrong with doing “turn off brain” teams for getting type medal

Or even just in general

[brave halo]

Actually I did check, I do have to get electric anyway

[mellow linden]

Ok, with 12 types left to do you’re gonna want to consider doing SST Red or Ash

Since you’re basically only going to have 3 “repeat” slots

[brave halo]

Half the time I dont even use ash without red tbh, except in Kanto daily region

[mellow linden]

Ash or SST Red can obliterate any Hard Mode stage on their own

Oh, wait, you have 13 types left to do

So only 2 “repeat” slots

[crystal notch]

SST Red is electric right

and ash too

[mellow linden]

Yes

[brave halo]

Yep

[crystal notch]

the person hasn't done electric so there's one more leeway

[mellow linden]

So definitely gonna want to consider picking 1 or the other, or using 1 of your “repeat” slots and having each of them on a separate team

So 1 of your 5 teams next week would be Ash + 2 pairs to fill type medal, and another one of the 5 teams would be SST Red + 2 pairs to fill type medal

[brave halo]

I think I got something

[mellow linden]

I’d honestly recommend planning the Ash and SST Red teams last out of your 5

That way you have as much leeway as possible on your other 3 teams

Because the 2 other pairs on the Ash and SST Red teams can literally be random pairs of the correct type who’ll only be there for triple queue purposes

[brave halo]

I don't think it's ever been posted on next week's weakness types has it?

[mellow linden]

We get the weaknesses of the whole region’s CS via datamine, check the pins

2nd row on the Kanto CS infographic is next week’s weaknesses

If you’d rather you can wait for the reset and see what the round parameters are before planning your teams, though

[crystal notch]

should I worry about next week's csmm

I have no on type dps for any of them

(even for unlocking/finishing hard)

thankfully I already have 14/18 types cleared

so it's just the last 4

[mellow linden]

Roark for Rock, Mina for Fairy, Shauntal for Ghost, Kahili for Flying, Korrina for Fighting

[brave halo]

Ooooh Rock for Blue

[crystal notch]

oh right I could raise bea and allister

so that's at least two down

[mellow linden]

All are low rarity or free pairs, all are definitely able to do Hard Mode, and since you’d be just starting out on Master Mode all should work for 850 points

[brave halo]

whenever I see rock as the weakness it frightens me cause I don't have much rocks

[mellow linden]

Roark is a 3-star and extremely good now because Sync Grid

[crystal notch]

I'll return next week to ask which params I need to take since who knows if I can pre sync (I doubt it)

[brave halo]

Oh yeah I forgot about him, actually did give him a grid recently

[crystal notch]

would I be fine using allister instead of shauntal? I like him

[mellow linden]

Yeah

[crystal notch]

[mellow linden]

I was just listing free and low-rarity pairs to bust the “no good on-type DPS” myth

The free and low-rarity pairs in this game are way better than in a lot of other gachas

[brave halo]

Is it an issue with Roark still being a 4 star tho? Cause that's how he is, the most he has right now being 140 and 4 star

Obviously 5/5 too

[crystal notch]

oh I have 2/5 olivia! she should work (somewhat) gridless right

[mellow linden]

Definitely no issues for Hard Mode and unlikely to have any issues for 850 points on Master Mode

[mellow linden]

Olivia generally wants her Inertia and Sand Blaster tiles at minimum, but for Hard Mode she should be fine gridless

[crystal notch]

hmmm

[mellow linden]

If you can’t grid she’s a better option than Roark anyways

[crystal notch]

I don't particularly like or dislike either

which one is more usable when my account becomes midgame

[mellow linden]

They’re about equally good assuming you can grid

Olivia’s got a better Sync and Roark has better regular move damage

[crystal notch]

hmm

[calm grove]

when's reset

[mellow linden]

Can just use Olivia until you can actually grid one of them and decide then

[mellow linden]

2 daily resets

[crystal notch]

noted

[proud axle]

Monday morning, or Sunday night depending on timezone

[crystal notch]

I don't have unlimited sync orbs after all

[mellow linden]

CS weekly reset is the same every time

[calm grove]

alr thx

[proud axle]

Most of the world has Monday as the first day of the week, so you can go by that

(My country doesn't, but simply knowing that more civilized countries do... helps me remember it)

[brave halo]

Maybe this'll work for Roark while getting more typing on the board?

[mellow linden]

Looks good at a glance

Just need to adjust tactics

[brave halo]

Yeah I was mainly first getting the actual pairs together

There we go

[mellow linden]

Yep, those tactics are good

[proud axle]

I think Roark does indeed have the HP to outlast CSMM with +8 Strength now that he has his grid, so that looks great

[brave halo]

Oh and I'm currently working towards getting the rock gear maxed, hence the dark gear

[proud axle]

I wonder if you'd rather have the Rock Pin than the Dark Pin for this, considering Roark's HP is his ammo

[mellow linden]

They’re not even at Master Mode yet, they need to get 13 types next week to unlock it

[proud axle]

Oh cool

On the bright side, they might be able to run the exact same team in MM

[mellow linden]

For 850 points probably

[proud axle]

That low?

[mellow linden]

850 is the general recommendation for players who’re new to Master Mode

If they wanna go higher they can

[proud axle]

We can easily bump it up to 1150 just by adding the ontype thing now

[mellow linden]

Or we can reduce the difficulty of 850. Regardless, Master Mode is far from the immediate objective ATM

[formal vigil]

how good would be guage on that team?

[proud axle]

Probably fine, Nita has teamwide +4 Speed and Piers has gauge refill

[mellow linden]

For Hard Mode gauge should be fine since Piers can use his Trainer Move and the team has +4 Speed

[proud axle]

In a real pinch, Nita can Fly instead of Bulldoze

Rather not have to, but it is an option

[brave halo]

Let's see, next is flying, part of me wants to use Steven here, idk yet

[brave halo]

She mainly there for trainer move and healing honestly, and being ground

[mellow linden]

A. Steven is fine, he also allows for team flexibility since a simple Attack buffer would be fine for the main Support

[brave halo]

I was stumped between him or Lysandre

[mellow linden]

A. Steven is more flexible and probably more damage overall, so I definitely recommend him

[brave halo]

OK I think I got it, hopefully the tactics work right

[mellow linden]

Should be fine

[brave halo]

Now moving to fairy and ow I didn't realize I had so little

[proud axle]

Sycamore is already p swole at fairy striking

Pony Lisia should obliterate things too

You'll be fine either way

Sycamore's SpAtk isn't anything special, but he gets +50% Fairy damage from an innate passive

[brave halo]

I know for now I'm gonna have to put dragon in with fighting as most are weak to dragon, so thankfully after that I can retype as I cover every other type not done yet

And ghost too but I got lillie for that

[proud axle]

Oh, Ghost Lillie can blast a Fairy weakness too

If you haven't used Psychic yet, you can even do a silly thing

[brave halo]

Psychic was in that Red team

[proud axle]

Mewtwo (Psychic) vs Ghost, backed by Sycamore (Fairy)
Lillie (Ghost) vs Fairy, backed by any speed buffer

[brave halo]

Bring Sabrina

Actually I could put dragon into ghost instead actually

Waaait hold on, I think I know what to do

Does it look like it'll work or should I swap something? Ngl the dragon part was cause I had no other supports

[proud axle]

Let's see...

I'm a little worried about gauges for Steven's team. But maybe it's okay since Aaron and Ball Guy have 1bar moves

[brave halo]

I mainly have them for trainer mpves

[proud axle]

Going to use Red against the Fairy weakpoint?

[brave halo]

Yeah I originally had red in that one with Leaf

But then realized I can use lillie for ghost

[proud axle]

Regirock is weak to Fighting, watch out

Oh wait

It's not the Fighting E4 in Kanto

Carry on

You already have a Rock guy in the roster (Roark) so Regirock is still swappable, but this is fine

[brave halo]

Regirock was due to trainer move and it was a filler slot anyway

I had every other type covered at the time to try to get every unfinished type registered into hall of fame

[proud axle]

If Morty and Drake cannot sustain Diantha's gauge consumption, maybe consider swapping Morty for Marley. X Speed All.
I hear Morty is very good at gauge support though, so it may not be needed

[brave halo]

He's like one my trusted ones

I actually do have the thought of swapping regirock for regular Hop

Cause I forgot red already gave Gradual healing

[vapid notch]

is the recommended difficulty settings been updated for the new champion master modes

[mellow linden]

Yes, they’re in the pins

Very 1st link

[brave halo]

So assuming I do finish cs and get all the types, does master mode use the same weaknesses used in that one weakness schedule pinned?

[trail smelt]

Yes

[brave halo]

OK good, I have monotypes for that at least but I'm stumped on who to ex to be ready for that, the only ones currently ex'able is sydney and Iris shown there, tho working on Brendan

[versed meteor]

Where info on the champion stadium event stuff?

[zealous karma]

I can’t wait for grass CS I wonder if Ramos will nuke

[bright furnace]

where's the themes

[proud axle]

...Why monotype tho

I'm also worried what you're gonna do about the five-Grass CS challenge

[versed meteor]

Will that stuff have only grass type units boosted?

[proud axle]

It won't. But if this person is insisting on monotype on-type, they're going to run out of Grass Types for it

[zealous karma]

Grass!

[brave halo]

That's all I ever saw on another server

[mellow linden]

Monotype teams often have less synergy than multi-type teams. Only the type of your damage-dealer(s) matters, Supports can be whatever

[zealous karma]

That’s not exactly a great way to play it’s honestly pretty limiting as who you can use and this game is about creating the best synergy on your team

Like that dragon team is not the strongest it could be

[mellow linden]

In particular your Dragon and Grass teams have basically zero synergy

Dragon is at least saved by Drake being an ok teammate for SS Serena (even if there are better options)

[zealous karma]

He’s okay because Zerena doesn’t need a lot lel

[brave halo]

I really couldn't figure out what to have to boost the strikes

[mellow linden]

Again, you don’t need to do monotype teams

Brendan wants a Sun setter and someone to help him save time buffing his crit. SS Serena appreciates someone to help manage gauge and someone to help save her time buffing her crit

[zealous karma]

I’d just use skyla as a support for Zerena if you have no one else and Lucina if you have her, as for grass Brendan likes Sun so SSEirika is good for him and skyla can be used to support that team as well

[brave halo]

I do have another kind of team for serena

OK idk why the gears vanished on this but there should've been some

[zealous karma]

That teams not too strong either cause Zerena and Sycamorw fight for buffs

[brave halo]

reads Lucina hold up when did best FE character get added?

[mellow linden]

Sycamore and SS Serena fight over Sync, can’t say I recommend it.

Marley + Arcanine is one of SS Serena’s top Support options (at least IMO). If properly gridded she can max the team’s Speed in 2 turns and also give +1 crit for the whole team just by starting the fight

[zealous karma]

I meant lucian my apologies

He’s the psychic from sinnoh who has girafarig

[mellow linden]

So Marley provides basically everything SS Serena could want outside of Zone

[brave halo]

Yeah I know who

[zealous karma]

Oh right Marley exists

[brave halo]

Basically the one who took the longest to pull for me

Literally no joke, I only have him as a 1/5

[mellow linden]

Fortunately a 1/5 Lucian is basically at 90% of his full power

[zealous karma]

So lucian + Marley are good supports for her

[brave halo]

Am I able to trade Sycamore for Hop for more healing?

[mellow linden]

Hop is almost entirely redundant with SS Serena

And SS Serena can clear extremely fast, so healing becomes less necessary

Marley + SS Serena + Lucian or a defensive Support can murder stages

[manic kiln]

Mono team is fine if you’re know what you’re doing also it’s fun trying to find a way to make them work

[zealous karma]

If you want potions and speed and def skyla works just makes Zerena buff cycle last one turn linger

When you preferably get at least one thousand waves out pre sync

Mono type teams are usually if you’re doing a theme clear to me at least

[mellow linden]

Monotype teams generally are best seen as happy accidents rather than something to actively strive for, since in the majority of cases you’ll get better team synergy by doing multi-type

And for someone who has yet to even get Master Mode (and who has 13 types left to get on Hard Mode), I’m very much inclined to recommend against monotype teams for the time being

[brave halo]

Would it be wrong to try Sabrina with serena just for the reflect?

I have Lucian in there at least

[manic kiln]

Oh for sure new players don’t have to do that. Like that dragon team is meh but if it’s something like ssbrendan zerena and lucas then it’s a great mono team

[mellow linden]

Sabrina can work with SS Serena, but since she can contribute so much more than Reflect it’s kind of a waste of her potential to use her solely for that purpose

If you really want survivability you can do something like Marley + SS Serena + a Support who primarily buffs Defense and/or Sp. Def.

[brave halo]

Does mesprit make it any better cause I did have the idea of getting that soon when I can next

[mellow linden]

If you’re gonna get Mespirit anyways then sure, but you can also just use BP Morty

[zealous karma]

Have you read

+101

[frozen depot]

> Teambuilding 101
Make sure you have done the Victory Road tutorial for an introduction to the game's teambuilding and gameplay.

1. When making a team, you usually want to focus building around a selected damage dealer that hits the stage's weakness (or not if they are strong enough to off-type). This can be a / striker or a tech. Take the time to read that damage dealer's kit in its entirety (moves and passives) to see what they can buff themselves. Critical-Hit Rate maxes at +3 while all other main buffs go to +6. Damage dealers should be in slot 3 for tactics.

2. Once you figured out your damage dealer, pick a to put on slot 1 in tactics so it takes the damage. The support will often want to cover the buffs the damage dealer needs and cannot max by themselves reliably (look for critical-hit rate, attack or special attack for example). If your damage dealer is fully self sustainable, the support can cover healing or defensive utility as needed!

3. Finally your last slot is entirely flexible and depends on your first two picks. You can take a tech focusing on utility like debuffs or weather/terrain that empowers your damage dealer, or another support that focuses on defenses and healing to survive longer, perhaps even boost gauge speed for demanding damaging moves. If your team allows it, you can even pick a second damage dealer! It's important to experiment and remember that a successful team will be able to manage gauge properly for triple queueing and buffing your damage dealer fast so they can focus on pumping out damage as soon as possible!

Want to know more about Triple-Queue and other information about the game? Visit our #1010307000346878062 or check the bot commands pinned in #bot-zone!

[zealous karma]

?

[proud axle]

The best water-type team for a new player, has zero water-types in it

Sycamore (Fairy), Winona (Flying), Cyrus (Dragon)

[zealous karma]

Gaming

[brave halo]

Does that look good then? I saw BP morty

[mellow linden]

I personally like Marley over Lucian because it lets SS Serena spend 1 fewer turn doing self-buffs, but if that doesn't bother you then you're good

[zealous karma]

Why not both

Special def debuffs are pretty helpful for her

[mellow linden]

They seem to very much want someone to heal

So with that in mind the only flexible slot becomes where Lucian is

[white gale]

for upcoming CS, I'm thinking of using SS Korrina against Ghost weak. only other physical Ghost damage dealers I could find are Selene and Morty (Drif) - Selene seems better. What units would be good third teammate? old faithful Sonia?

[proud axle]

We should also probably point out that you generally don't need healers for most fights, including CSMM

[brave halo]

It was more of I only saw Marley as a status condition healer which felt like "wait the opponent doesn't use status conditions"

[mellow linden]

Marley's purpose on the team is Speed buffs and Team Sharp Entry

[proud axle]

Marley's value is in having +1 crit on entry and +6 speed in two turns of TMs

Also having quite good bulk for her rarity

Also can grid for teamwide regen

[mellow linden]

Her Trainer Move is more situational and may not even end up being used

[brave halo]

Well some opponents do but eh I haven't been able to see much use out of buffing speed tbh

[mellow linden]

More speed = faster gauge regen, faster gauge regen = more 4-bar move spam

[proud axle]

Actually now I'm wondering if they're triplequeuing

That's often why we need so much speed

So the whole team can get actions in, and get you to your sync move in 3 rounds instead of 9

Victory Road attempts to teach it, but I guess it's possible they skipped it?

[brave halo]

I don't see anything there involving speed

They have stuff for all the other stats tho

[mellow linden]

What are you referring to with that?

[brave halo]

The amount of lessons in victory road

[mellow linden]

Victory Road is basically the absolute most basic information, it won't cover everything

It also gives you trainers who won't have much (if any) gauge issues even with +0 Speed

Speed is often overlooked compared to the other main stats, but it's just as important to keep in mind

[brave halo]

Actually there is someone else I found for speed boosting

Being Nita

[mellow linden]

Nita doesn't buff crit, only gives +4 Speed, and uses more move gauge than Marley

Marley offers a currently-unique set of capabilities. She can max the team's Speed in 2 turns and give the whole team +1 crit just for entering the battle if you grid her properly

[brave halo]

Could I also use lodge morty then? I just want to see all options

[mellow linden]

Lodge Morty's Speed buffing is slower and less reliable, and X Sp. Atk. All is entirely redundant

[brave halo]

It was mainly I saw along with speed increasing, it increased crit rate too

[mellow linden]

We only need the +1 so that SS Serena's 1st 3 turns can be Trainer Move -> Dire Hit+ -> Thousand Waves, then be ready to Sync as soon as the 3rd round of actions is done. +2 crit won't change anything and you'd need to rely on MP Refresh to get +3

[brave halo]

The only other one I've been able to find is Roxanne

[mellow linden]

Who is also less valuable than Marley for the role

Roxanne does not max Speed as fast, does not provide crit buffs, and has redundant Sp. Atk. buffs that make her a better fit for other teams

[proud axle]

Also has much less survivability than Marley (no method of healing and way less HP)

Marley's grid really isn't playing around

When both are brought to 4star, their defenses are comparable but Marley has more than half-again as much HP as Roxanne

Do not underestimate low-rarity pairs

[rotund lagoon]

Wait I never realized

Do you have Skyla?

[mellow linden]

Skyla is actually less desirable than Marley as the Speed buffer due to no crit buffs, though if you want to change up to Skyla + a crit buffer as the teammates that's doable

[brave halo]

Can I try this then if using Skyla?

[mellow linden]

That can work.

If you didn't want to use Marley you should've led with saying that

[brave halo]

It's basically I was wanting to see how many other options I can use while Marley also being an option

Plus I've had my own fair share of issues whenever I admit to saying "I want to or don't want to use X in this" in terms of other games anyway so trying to keep away from it to not cause problems

[mellow linden]

Fair enough

[brave halo]

Plus I haven't even given Marley a grid yet but I got so many characters to give grids to or just fill up their grids for the custom spheres

[mellow linden]

For what it’s worth, you’ll eventually be swimming in Sync Orbs.

Regardless, SS Serena team now has more synergy going for it

[brave halo]

True, if I get every character's orbs finished then I'm gonna be fine later cause my luck on pulls is bad a lot anyway

[proud axle]

Before we finish teaching you about What Marley Can Do, we should probably add: you can also add your choice of gradual Atk or gradual SpAtk buffs

[brave halo]

Doesn't that not mean anything tho when serena already maxes out both?

[proud axle]

Her focus is still speed, but she can dip her toes into a few other useful fields

[proud axle]

It's for when you use her with people other than Serena.

[brave halo]

Oh

[proud axle]

She's really flexible

[tired sleet]

3* gatcha does not equal bad

[proud axle]

Some Legendary Arena fights (and even some Champion Stadium fights) require you to inflict a Status Condition on the enemy. Marley can actually do it reliably with the right grid build, too (this increases the Burn chance on her Flamethrower and Flame Wheel to 50%); this makes it way easier to pick teammates for such a fight

[brave halo]

Well for now I'm gonna move onto grass, or we'll I guess technically brendan cause it was the big focus here, does this work? Or should I swap lyra?

[proud axle]

Do you happen to have SSErika?

Leafeon, that is

[brave halo]

Yes but doesn't she want to like do her own thing aside from brendan? Posting all the grass if that changes anything just to be sure

[proud axle]

Bruh, SSErika and Brendan work amazingly well together

SSErika + Lyra + Brendan is a pretty damn strong team.
I'd keep Lyra instead of Morty because she can raise Brendan's Speed better. Brendan needs actual stacks of Speed buffs, not just gauge support

[mellow linden]

SS Morty buffs Speed

[proud axle]

How quickly?

[mellow linden]

Only +1 a turn, admittedly

[proud axle]

Oof

[brave halo]

Oh I just see how much he raises other things along with speed

[mellow linden]

He also handles crit simultaneously though, so I wouldn’t outright eliminate him as a Support option (especially due to the difference in bulk)

[proud axle]

SSErika also wants actual speed buffs, and Lyra helps her skip buff turns

[brave halo]

And healing

[proud axle]

tbh the enemy should be long dead before you need healing unless it's a phys-heavy opponent

[mellow linden]

Lyra works fine if you can clear fast enough, of course

[proud axle]

The bigger question is:
Which fight are you building for?

[brave halo]

Tho tbh, Believe! is just....

Trustworthy

[proud axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009554906568462476/1090626926437224498/PasioCS.png

Because there's a CSMM with five consecutive grass fights in a few days

[brave halo]

It was actually none of those

[proud axle]

Well, the Lorelei one is exactly the same as the one in the Kanto League in two weeks

[brave halo]

The week after next week cs MM

[proud axle]

So, yeah, the Lorelei one

They're identical

[brave halo]

Yeah that

[proud axle]

Toxic stall is also an option if you can't make it work with the Sun team

SSLeaf/Venusaur is the best toxic staller in the game

Very easy 2.5k

With a Venom Drencher and a tank

Nidoran F is available from the current egg event. If for some reason you don't like Janine/Ariados, you can train an Egg Tech Nidoqueen for Venom Drench

[brave halo]

Oh yeah morty also has this, since he'd be using sunny day anyway

[proud axle]

That's... only one rank of Speed in the entire fight

So he can only give 3 ranks in 3 turns (Sunny Day, Believe, Believe)

Lyra can give 4 ranks in 2 turns

[brave halo]

Plus morty boosting defenses too

[proud axle]

I'm not real sure that's going to be a concern for Lorelei

Morty himself is unlikely to need it either

[brave halo]

I don't like taking chances on higher levels spots tbh

One sync move and they become scary

[proud axle]

Bruh, SSErika and Brendan, together, should easily destroy the boss before it gets anywhere near the sync countdown threshold

If you're triplequeuing

EX Support sync on turn 3, and then three Solar Blades and three Leaf Storms should be more than enough to obliterate Lorelei before sync

Don't even need to quadqueue

Kanto isn't very strong!

[brave halo]

Plus all the characters aren't ex yet anyway

[proud axle]

Don't care about SSErika or Brendan EX

The saying goes:
Striker and Tech EX make hard fights easy.
Support EX makes impossible fights winnable

(And hard fights easy)

[brave halo]

Well someone is getting ex next week at least

[proud axle]

Strongly recommend prioritizing Support EXes if you're not sure what you're doing in CSMM

Also, not leaning so hard on healers

Ally Healing -5 is one of the easier point sources in CSMM

It halves the potency of Morty's Potions but not Lyra's self regen nor Healing Sun

[brave halo]

I've been told the complete opposite and to focus on ex'ing strikers

[proud axle]

From whom? The same people telling you to monotype everything?

I wonder if they're pranking you

[brave halo]

Literally most of my ex'able ones are strikes, I was told by another server

[zealous karma]

That stresses me out

[proud axle]

I'm... really suspicious that they're pranking you, yeah

That, or someone pranked them and they didn't realize

[brave halo]

That and to be fair sometimes favorite mons take priority to me

[zealous karma]

Some of those ex’s aren’t to bad someare good

[brave halo]

Like I want to ex Kommo-o, just haven't got it 20/20 yet

[zealous karma]

Using favs is recommended even by us

[brave halo]

But sadly I was told a lot that kommo-o was bad

[proud axle]

It's also very odd that there are so many at 20/20 but not already EX

A lot of players are bottlenecked by and not by

Like, a lot of players wish they had that kind of imbalance of vs

[brave halo]

I didn't do cs till I got every character to 140, so it took me a long while to begin getting a lot of spirit, it was just reassuring to me to feel like I was ready

[zealous karma]

SsCynthia may not be great but she’s definitely not had

Bad

[proud axle]

CSMM can be cleared below 100

[zealous karma]

Especially when properly supported

[proud axle]

And not that difficultly

You just have to... not laser-focus on monotype

[brave halo]

Well I didn't feel like I was ready at the time

[brave halo]

Tho trust me, if this Kommo-o was shiny.....all bets are off

That would've been ex instantly

[proud axle]

Possibly the only sync pair in the game with a case to be made for the Unbending Lucky Skill

[zealous karma]

Base Gromsley

[proud axle]

CSMM is actually pretty easy. But if the other server had problems clearing it, perhaps because they EX Strikers and laser-focus monotypes... I can see how they gave you the impression that it's some monstrous mountain

[brave halo]

That's the one for negating Defense drops?

[proud axle]

It is.

[brave halo]

Thought so

[proud axle]

Clanging Scales would drop her own Def but Unbending blocks that

Otherwise, constantly spamming Clanging could leave her very glassy against a stray Earthquake or something

[brave halo]

So like brendan with uhhh

I'm spacing the name

[proud axle]

Yeah exactly, but with lower stakes

[brave halo]

But not dropping spatk

[proud axle]

Dauntless

[brave halo]

Yeah that

[zealous karma]

Some of SSCynthia’s best qualities are her sync accel capabilities that not many strikers or even techs have, at 3/5 she improves a really good amount

[brave halo]

I was thinking the name was Stalwart ngl

But that's spdef

[proud axle]

I'd say she picked Kommo-o to counter Cyrus' Palkia, but... our version of that Palkia has a Fairy weakpoint, so...

[brave halo]

Let me throw in my own Kommo-o and kick palkia's keester

[proud axle]

That's kinda what they wanted you to do, when that Legendary Adventure was a regular event

Pull for Kommo-o to kick Cyrus' ass

...But we could just use Cyrus to kick his own ass, so this might not have worked so well

Damn it Cynthia, your intuition is usually better than this

[brave halo]

Ngl I did make my own pair for kommo-o, tho I had no control on balance, I'd share but not sure where, but yeah funny that the only weakness for Cyrus, is cyrus

[thin pecan]

Is there a preset option that we should use now?

[tired sleet]

Master Mode Param presets will be added next update

[thin pecan]

I thought they were already added

[gritty sentinel]

wait is grass cs coming out on tuesday?

[old orchid]

yes

#1012256199128915968 for dates, mind you

[thin pecan]

Then what are the ones in the pins

[gritty sentinel]

i thought it was releasing with the normal cs lmao

[thin pecan]

Also what order do we fight them in this week

[old orchid]

you can do stages in any order, but avoid fighting Agatha or Lorelei on R3

also its not recommended to fight Agatha on R2 as well

[noble plaza]

I was literally just about to do that—

thanks for saving me haha

[old orchid]

[noble plaza]

dont have any special attacking steel pairs though for Lance

[bright furnace]

Might sound memey, but do you have egg striker Perrserker?

[noble plaza]

probably, why?

ok i know why, you're probably going to suggest using it

sounds pretty random though. Mind explaining?

[bright furnace]

Has steel beam, a special steel type move

[old orchid]

Striker Perrserker has Steel Beam, which makes it Raihan at home

[bright furnace]

Probably one of the better striker eggmons

[old orchid]

note that it needs the third passive to avoid being dead in 2 Steel Beam

[bright furnace]

[noble plaza]

Third passive?

[old orchid]

the third passive of it is Standfast 9, which reduces the recoil from Steel Beam

by 90%

[cinder summit]

<:CATEGORY_SPECIAL:967450752098390077> <:TYPE_STEEL:967452396412366908> Steel Beam

Gauge: 4 | Power: 199 | Accuracy: 95 | Uses: -
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: Recoil
The user takes damage equal to 50% of its maximum HP. The damage is taken even when the attack fails.

Sync Pairs with Move:

Raihan & Duraludon

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[noble plaza]

ohhh passive skills haha

i dont have Raihan unfortunately

[old orchid]

thats why Rancer suggested striker Perrserker

[bright furnace]

Was a two week or so egg event iirc

[noble plaza]

Ohh gotcha

[old orchid]

if you dont have it, Solgaleo is also a good option

[noble plaza]

Oh I have a Solgaleo

Is it worth investing in a Perrserker in that case?

[old orchid]

you probably will use it again on Steel weak Glacia, so yes

getting it to 4* and max affinity is enough

[bright furnace]

It does pretty good damage for an eggmon and can get it up to level 150 easily

[noble plaza]

really? huh

to be honest I kinda forget the egg mons exist

[brave halo]

I really just make egg potatoes if gotten shiny, idk which of them I could use for cs if I wanted

Assuming I have the intended pair that is

[noble plaza]

what should I pair with Perrserker? I was planning on putting Hop on my team but Hop To It only boosts physical

Wait, how do I get Steadfast 9 on it?

[brave halo]

Lucky skill most likely

[old orchid]

Standfast 9 is the third passive

[brave halo]

Oh nevermind

[noble plaza]

but I only see 2 passive skills on mine

[brave halo]

Oh yeah there's multiple versions

[old orchid]

so your doesnt have Standfast 9

[noble plaza]

sorry i never really invested in an eggmon so sorry if this is a dumb question

[old orchid]

dont use it then

[noble plaza]

ohhhh

[brave halo]

Some pairs have 3 passive skill, some 2, and some 1

[old orchid]

Perrserker is garbage without Standfast 9

[bright furnace]

Do you have one with 3 passives?

[brave halo]

Also they can change depending on role, I believe

[bright furnace]

If not, it’s not doable

[noble plaza]

...i donated most of my extra perrserkers because i didn't think to check the passives 😭

[bright furnace]

[noble plaza]

i only have a support one

[tame gust]

Oh.. wait it’s already Saturday?! Geez I haven’t even done my first set of Kanto clears for type medals. Work’s been kicking my ass

[noble plaza]

im in the same boat except it's college 😭

[brave halo]

OK yep, checked 2 pidgeys I got with 2 passives, either natural remedy or super-duper effective

So yeah gotta check the role too

[noble plaza]

yeahhhhh i donated the ones that didn't have 2 bars. I dont know what those bars even mean

i didnt really expect to use an egg mon to be totally honest

[brave halo]

Yeah that shows how many passives they got

Shinies always have 3 so there's that too

[tame gust]

And the passives aren’t random so I like that

[noble plaza]

ohhh so i didnt make the wrong choice?

by donating them?

[brave halo]

If i recall, only 1 of the roles is covered if shiny, but the other two you'll need to keep

The one part that does urk me is this

And yes I know, they're the same role and stuff but even then

[thin pecan]

Man that new 2,500 really didn’t change much of anything did it

[noble plaza]

so now that perrserker is out of the picture, what now?

||Perrserker? I hardly know her!||

[noble plaza]

I have Solgaleo and Hop but what would the third pair be?

[old orchid]

a gauge support or a def debuffer

Kukui looks good

[noble plaza]

whats a "quick move effect" tag?

[old orchid]

a move with that tag doesnt cost gauge

[noble plaza]

ohh

so like Hop To It and Potions?

hhh id have to grid kukui and im low on sync orbs

[old orchid]

Kukui doesnt need grid

[zinc island]

Sonia

[old orchid]

Sonia is abundant

[noble plaza]

I beat it with Kukui! Thank you so so much!

alright so lastly we have agatha

[proud axle]

No

Longpress a move on that pair to see if it has any tags

Attacks that use MP instead of gauge, tend to be Quick Moves. But not always.

Accelerock was the very first one. Fly is one, too.

[static kettle]

accidentally did physical reduction 8 on a physical striker on 2500. still cleared. At least there's slighly more rewards now so thats pretty cool

[keen jasper]

Literally Fairy Aura

[golden raft]

recommendations for 2.5k mm agatha? my ice is kind of non existent outside of ghetsis so not sure if I should offtype (this is round 4 if that helps at all)

[zealous karma]

For the futyhure you only need to show your 5* pairs we assume you have all 3-4* pairs and helps remove a lot of clutter, it may seem odd but you could try AniMay + blaziken Emma + crobat and a speed buffer like skyla

[golden raft]

alright, ty! i'll try it out

[dark osprey]

You have Hala 3/5

[old orchid]

A lot of people is sleeping on Hala

[golden raft]

best teammates for him?

[old orchid]

Skyla + Kukui + him

[hearty lynx]

Who's better:Hala or 3/5 Summer Steven?

[spring fable]

oh yeaaa

forgot i could use ss hilbert in the pasio stadium

[old orchid]

Hala

[spring fable]

who would be most consistent / best among gardenia, lodge sycamore and lodge gloria?

[swift swan]

Well for one thing, gardenia wants dauntless

[spring fable]

i can give her sun

[swift swan]

Or grid for sunny disposition, sure

Lodge sycamore I imagine is easier because of innate impervious

While with Gloria, I hope you're comfortable with killing yourself slowly after every wood hammer

Or you can use her nuke grid

[old orchid]

she has Gradual Heal + First Aid 4, in short content like CS the recoil isnt a problem

[keen jasper]

SS Morty

[old orchid]

[keen jasper]

Well, for Gardenia at least

[old orchid]

they asked who is the best among the 3 given pairs

[keen jasper]

Ah

[spring fable]

i guess i could try all 3 out

just means more time

[keen jasper]

Lodge Sycamore definitely

[old orchid]

all of them are really good with proper supports, but like nov said Gloria and Gardenia have some issues

[keen jasper]

Lodge Sycamore kinda needs his OG version for complete buffs

Assuming you also have his expanded grid

[spring fable]

okie!

i'll prolly still come running here for help since its gonna be 2.5k

[dark osprey]

Lodge sycamore, regular sycamore and a poison unit like for eg Janine is kinda a guaranteed win

[trail smelt]

I prefer SSteven myself

[dark osprey]

3/5 Hala if EXed is really good on type

That nuke usually one shots

Don't have lodge Gloria myself but imagine that the strategy of denying the left and nuking the center should work quite comfortably too

[spring fable]

Sync with xerneas then bulbasaur right?

[dark osprey]

Can go for the nuke grid but be surprised by the DPS damage itself

Can try with Lorelei right now

[old orchid]

Tried OG Sycamore + LSycamore + Lucy in a themed run of mine and the little cabbage literally 3 shotted Lorelei

[dark osprey]

Yeah. I was surprised with that damage

Everyone was like it's difficult to max his multipliers and all that but maybe it's not even needed

[old orchid]

Luckily he can be used with his OG version

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Was thinking maybe the initial opinion about him was before being able to run them together

Or maybe just because of his low stats

[old orchid]

Not a lot of support can help him ramping up fast like OG Sycamore, i think SS Blue is the second place

Oh right

Forgot about Lodge Dawn

She even has Team Sharp Entry 1

[dark osprey]

Oh yeah that's nice

I guess toxic power and ramming speed are the more necessary ones apart from the direct special attack buffs I guess

[old orchid]

Toxic Power is situational imo, i mostly skip it and focus on maxing Rammind Speed and Smart Cookie

[dark osprey]

Ah. I guess either ways.

[spring fable]

1 sludge bomb and 2 leaf storms?

Nvm you have Lucy

[spring fable]

i just tried, how did your cabbage deal so much?

[old orchid]

i used offensive parameters and picked all multipliers

my Xerneas is also EXed

[spring fable]

my xerneas is EXed as well

what is "all multipliers"?

[proud axle]

Damage multiplier skills in grid, maybe

[old orchid]

yeah ^

[proud axle]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-cuddle-hungry-yummy-food-gif-5610436

[spring fable]

smart cookie is the only one, unless you gave him double down and virulent toxin?

[old orchid]

he has Toxic Power and Ramming Speed

[spring fable]

thats his passive

lemme see

i did 4k post sycamore sync

with badly poison

[old orchid]

wait i misremembered, Toxic Power is in his base kit

[proud axle]

As is Ramming

[old orchid]

lemme record the run

[spring fable]

ty!

sry for the inconvenience

[old orchid]

its okay

i will ping you in my forum in #1010274591601598555 when its done

[spring fable]

will do, thanks in advance!

ok maybe my cabbage being 4*, lvl 110 was the issue now that i think about it

[old orchid]

thats def the issue

mine is lvl 140 and 5*

do you still want to watch the record? i havent started recording yet

[spring fable]

did you ex yours by any chance?

[old orchid]

no i didnt, mine is still 5*

[spring fable]

i dont need the record for now, will get mine up and try again

thanks

[old orchid]

[dark osprey]

Mine's 4 star still and was doing like 6K. Maybe parameters

[tame gust]

oh, drat, I accidentally reused a type this week. Only got 14 types for the medals

[trail smelt]

That’s fine haha

[civic trellis]

Its not like u’ll be able to finish it sooner anyway

[tame gust]

I was wanting to do 15 just for personal reasons. ah well lol

[brave halo]

OK so out of nowhere by a joke single, I got Easter Burgh, now I gotta wonder if the team I'm gonna use for next week dragon cs should use him with no grid or Furisode with an actual grid

[paper summit]

fairies are not immune to dragon in this game if that's the reason you are caring about support typing...

[brave halo]

It's mainly to hit every type I haven't done in hall of fame in one go

[mellow linden]

It doesn’t really matter since SST Red is there (also Hop is entirely redundant, can use someone else for type filler easily)

[brave halo]

None of the other teams I had for next week had steel in them

[mellow linden]

Didn’t you already use Steel though?

Steel was Lance’s weakness this week

[brave halo]

Oh yeah I just checked

I forgot

Tho I can't really find any other supports to use that don't get labeled as redundant

[mellow linden]

If that’s the case and doing more type filler there won’t open up any other teams a bit then it should be fine

[brave halo]

All I've done so far was swap Hop for Elio

[fair hearth]

So where is the update MM parameters for pre-sync and stall?

[mellow linden]

1st link in pins

[fair hearth]

I just finished my own 12.5k MM but was curious if i did the right parameters

Kk thanks

[mellow linden]

There’s not really any “right” parameters, you use what works for you

We just have templates people can work with

[fair hearth]

Kk, i just used my default preset for pre-sync with +def and sp.def 1 and +hp 2, and added the standard damage reduction and strenght 3

Felt harder but it was doable for pre-sync

Except agatha

[brave halo]

So does this look better for that team against dragon? Like I said I really don't know who to use out of my supports that isn't already used in the other teams

[mellow linden]

Should be fine since SST Red will murder everything

[keen jasper]

Even off-region EBs

[proud axle]

It occurs to me that an EBE's stat multiplier is 5x, so Red deals... -80% damage in them

Just like the Standard Damage -8 option

[proud axle]

Elio's fine, he can tactically inflict Sleep to deny the enemy their turns. Normally you want Paralyze for Red to break their defenses but he's already strong enough without that.

He's also probably going to crush the enemy before Sleep really matters too, anyway

Kanto league is easy.

[weak sleet]

Do we have the old image with the 2k presets?

The Google document is impossible to read on my phone

[proud axle]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pvBfoFWc6hdhu6vLBsDrhmfBAxTS6TPDPosnGaE-xdQ/https/tinyurl.com/5e8h6eap

[tribal agate]

download the google sheet app it's really handy

i'll work on making screencaps for people that can't access em'

the problem is there's way too many parameters & presets too

[tribal agate]

there, updated pin

[wide adder]

I thought Beas 3/5 nuke would be more than this.

+10 strength too much for her?

[proud axle]

Does that have Standard Damage -8 on, or something?

[wide adder]

No it was even less when it was on

I have special damage down that’s it for damage reduce

Beas physical and seems the gauge won’t fit Wally anyway

Was trying to see how the nuke was cause picking next ex

If it’s really this weak then I don’t want to ex sirfetchd

[zealous karma]

Beas sync without fighting zone and off type is not very strong for whatever reason

[proud axle]

What's her grid?

[mellow linden]

Did you make sure the Sync was a crit?

[zealous karma]

We’ve had this convo before in here and you’d think it would hit harder but it doesn’t

Even with def debuffs

This team was just for theme skills

Idt I grabbed any strength parameters

[tired sleet]

All she has is inertia, cs3, some sync tiles, and a decent attack stat

[wide adder]

yeah sync was a crit