Champion Stadium

[trail smelt]

Ah yeah then you’re mistaken haha. Max is 12,500 which is 2,500 per round

[storm moss]

🥰

[trail smelt]

Luckily they added new parameters

[storm moss]

Awesome

What new ones are best to pick?

I normally do the 2k pre sync

[bleak vine]

It kinda depends on what you're going for

some of them are "free" like Standard / Physical / Special Damage Reduction if you plan on going for on-type or the opposite of physical or special

[hollow vigil]

Wait so for CS you need to use all the types in a single run to unlock the higher level?

Dang I thought I could do it over two weeks

[paper summit]

no

[hollow vigil]

Oh what

[paper summit]

you can't do it in one run

[hollow vigil]

I figured

I got 13/18 my first time

And then this time it was back to 0

[paper summit]

well, because the regions changed

each region has its own medal to fill

[hollow vigil]

Ohhhhhhhh

That makes sense thank you

[paper summit]

whenever Unova comes back you'll have your 13 types progress

[hollow vigil]

Thanks for the clarification!

So do regions change every week?

[paper summit]

no

every month

[hollow vigil]

Oh okay

Thank 💜

[daring osprey]

It sucks because most of my team are weather and zone related

So to get 12.5k what would be the parameters with weather/zones?

[subtle forge]

Probably something that doesn’t include the no weather/zone/terrain change parameter

[paper summit]

I didn't use that param even once today, so it shouldn't be hard to replace with something else

these new ones added a decent amount of flexibility

[mellow linden]

If you on-type then you get a minimum of 300 extra points moving from 2k to 2.5k

400 extra if you only use 1 damage category for your damage-dealers as well

[fringe valve]

I can already see 2.5k off type glacia is gonna be a pain with all those high damaging aoe's

[mellow linden]

2.5k off-type Glacia is probably gonna be Poison stall

[fringe valve]

or sleep chaining

[sonic blaze]

I've always had a question but want to clarify to make sure about 2 parameters.. If i have something like Leon & Calyrex, he benefits from both prolonging status effects and having additional chance to trigger the freeze from his atk move right? but for stuff like flinch and confusion, only the additional chance to trigger them would be beneficial since they are on a different category from paralysis/freeze.

[tired sleet]

The additional chance for effects does not work for Leon; it works on the additional effects of moves, not passive skills

[sonic blaze]

i'm guessing passive skills include grid? since he has cold snap 1?

[paper summit]

Again, only innate effects from a move are affected

[sonic blaze]

ok

[paper summit]

Anything else isn't

[sonic blaze]

then for sonia and yamper

my statement above would be true?

for her spark

[paper summit]

Yeah, the round param doesn't affect Tackle staggering but it does boost the paralysis chance from Spark

She is a good example to understand the difference

[sonic blaze]

and in the other parameter, would prolong the time the enemy is paralysed

right?

[paper summit]

No, because paralysis is already "permanent" unless cured

What it does in that case is increase the chance an enemy will fail to move due to paralysis

[sonic blaze]

was used to LA< didn't realized paralysis had to be removed by enemies

and on the second thing, interesting o.o, so it does have benefits even in that scenario

[paper summit]

Duration is for things that wear off after a while, like confusion/trap/sleep

[sonic blaze]

ty for the help, might come in handy if i ever struggle offtyping a 12.5k master mode lol

ic ic yeah, makes sense, just good to know they both help and that chance does not include anything passive.

[white gale]

next week's Bruno (flying weak)has Impervious. Who would be some good buddies with SS Ethan in that fight? I typically use Lucian, but that's obviously a no go with that opponent's lucky skill.

[swift swan]

just a speed buffer then

if ss ethan is 3/5, rain setter for nuke

[white gale]

cool, thanks november! he's only 1/5

[proud axle]

Isn't Ethan kind of... enough to obliterate that fight without extra help already

[white gale]

I don't know, mever done 12.5 with him before 😄

[bronze onyx]

Use someone to buff Ethan faster

Since his setup is super slow

[white gale]

got it, makes sense. want him to aeroblast early and often I suppose

[tired sleet]

Torchic for example works (note that he only needs +2 crit because of aeroblast’s increased crit rate and his TM’s sure crit)

[keen jasper]

Me who used Skyla and Hala with him

Or was it Skyla and Ghetsis?

[civic trellis]

Jc for next week, could these params work for lance? 1/5 CBede 3/5 NY Lisia and SS Wally all EX and lvl 150

[proud axle]

Does that team have a lot of healing?

Because you could skip HP +2 if you take Ally Healing -5

[civic trellis]

Oooo right I could do that, I dont there’s any healing on the team at all

[proud axle]

As for the other HP+4...
I wonder whether it'd be easier to stack another 2 Strength, or to take Atk+1 and Def+1 and HP+2, or to just keep HP+4

[meager agate]

If you’re ever in doubt remember that PoMaTools lets you calculate enemy stats with parameters

[dark osprey]

Doesn't help much since you'd still not be sure if the damage is enough or not

[meager agate]

well yeah but if you think the difference in attack and defense is notable enough to do that, that’s your call

[dark osprey]

True. But numbers...

[meager agate]

trial and error can help in combo - if one combination of params isn’t working it can help roughly gauge your actual team damage potential if needed. well, never needed, but can be convenient if you choose to use it

[dark osprey]

true that.

and fun as well

[civic trellis]

Tbh I was just hoping wally would have a beeg nuke so hp wouldnt matter

Ny lisia also does a ton of dmg

I also just realized I didnt use no status conditions w vilda gordie and skyla no idea why I did that

[dark osprey]

does happen due to the long list of new paramaters but guess it wasnt much of an issue either ways

btw what's the total points available now? is it 5800?

[keen jasper]

I wonder if someone likes to do 25k pts. MM

[frosty axle]

yes it is 5800

[keen jasper]

All HP parameters?

[magic crown]

Yes

[frosty axle]

Almost like Piers EB health

[zealous karma]

Seeing Ssmisty hitting those numbers with what I imagine isn’t even max Spatk is so silly

[frosty axle]

you can make even weak pokemon hit high numbers depending on boosts and parameters

[bronze onyx]

I think you can do on-type

5k off-type 5x sounds pretty hard

At least without cheesing the stage

[onyx ice]

Rats still have an easy time offtyiping

Despite i can't pick any of the reductions and the no field

However with no stat drops, if i have 50 spare points i can drop atk ↑ 5 for stats +3, don't know if it's worth over atk ↑ 3

How much is the multiplier for +3 spa/att?

[swift swan]

it's not really a multiplier. it just increases the base stat of attack and special attack by 30%

[proud axle]

I think they mean buffs

3 buff ranks come out to +50% in that stat, except Speed which gets +100% (so that solo Speed buffs make an actual difference)

In other words +3 is equivalent to Up 5, except you can dispel it

If they weren't "weak against" debuffs in that stat, Hazing off a +3 is a larger fractional debuff than bringing them from +0 to -6 with Up 5.

[onyx ice]

So not really worth picking it over attack + unless the stage already buffs or you can dispell it, maybe can be worth for units like xatu or mina that can take advantage of that

[gritty sentinel]

best CHop perimeters?

team is hilbert bea and CHop

CHop is built on nuke and bea on dps(basically all the meteor assault tiles)

[main crow]

Standard post or pre sync param without the debuff negation and no terrain change

[noble plaza]

so these are the grass sync pairs I have, which ones should I use for DPS vs Lorelei?

[old orchid]

can try Brendan + SS Erika dual strike core

[noble plaza]

oh, is there a certain build for that core?

[old orchid]

grid Brendan Ramming Speed and Inertia, give him Dauntless as the lucky skill as well

SS Erika can be ungridded, but time her Sunny Day well

for the support, preferly who can buff spdef and speed

[minor mauve]

12500 is easier with new parameters…

[onyx ice]

Offtype got a bit harder for some teams

But on type is even easier at 12.5k than 10k

And lack of zone is much less punishing since we can save 150 points

Stuffs like sand or hail got the short stick however

You still lose those 150 points but you don't get the 1.5x multiplier

[wraith cove]

Can‘t change weather/zone is pretty bonkers against hoenn/sinnoh since it will also block their ones right

[old orchid]

no

the param only applies to your team, not the opponents

[wraith cove]

Oh

[old orchid]

so they can still setup field effects

[wraith cove]

Well that makes sense

[old orchid]

you should check the desc ingame

[wraith cove]

[keen jasper]

What would x2 entry passives + Physical/Special Damage Reduction 8 would feel like?

With Standard Damage Reduction 8 when you're trying to off-type

[proud axle]

During my Toxic Stall vs Lorelei, Viola crit her for 2 dmg.
I think it would have been 1 dmg if it were not a crit.

(This was with all the Defense modifiers tho)

[keen jasper]

What would be Ash's damage be off-type with WE x2, Special Damage Reduction 8 and Standard Damage Reduction 8?

[noble plaza]

Any suggestions? I tried Liza a few times but Lunatone's frail

[keen jasper]

Have you used Sycamore?

[old orchid]

Sycamore, Lodge Dawn, Skyla (she doesnt have spdef buff),...

[magic crown]

I only did 11.5k is there any suggestions for the parameters for 12.5k

[mellow linden]

If you do on-type then you can start with your usual 2k parameters and add Standard Damage Reduction 8 + Physical Damage Reduction 8 or Special Damage Reduction 8 + whatever parameter(s) you prefer to get the last 100 points

[rotund lagoon]

~~Blank space ~~

OH WOW THANKS DISCORD

[noble plaza]

I don't wanna lose him so early on

[proud axle]

Was this Hard or Master?

[noble plaza]

Me?

[proud axle]

Ye

[noble plaza]

Hard, im just starting this one

[long thicket]

Alright, gonna face Blue with 10k points already.
I'm definitely writing down the parameters I use...

[noble plaza]

What are parameters?

[keen jasper]

Silver just burns him down

[long thicket]

Referring here to the points of Master mode.
I've managed each fight with 2500 points so far, but I have to write down which extra 500 points I use for each.

I use the 2000 points from post sync and build from there.

But yeah, it might be headache-inducing to complete 2500 points and then not remembering how when it repeats.

[tribal agate]

With some luck, our fully new fleshed out document for parameters will be available either later today or tomorrow

[dark osprey]

Whoa. At least 6 set of parameters I'm guessing

[tribal agate]

for 2500? or in general

cause we have 2500, 2000, 1500 and 850

[dark osprey]

For 2.5k only I meant

Oh for the others must be more

[tribal agate]

rn we have 4 for 2500, 3 are on type, 1 is for poison stall and the rest is off type but our priority is on type for now because people who play off type usually know what they're doing

[cobalt vortex]

The standard damage is really good to use

[noble plaza]

How important is using multiple different types in champ stadium? Is the medal just an achievement or something?

[cobalt vortex]

You unlock the hard mode that give you a lot of rewards

[main crow]

Master mode* but yeah lots of real nice rewards

[noble plaza]

Oh then I definitely want that then

[tribal agate]

it unlocks Master Mode, so it's very important

[dark osprey]

Ah. That's good reasoning but also newer players may need off type more desperately. But guess poison stall being easier is a good thing

[tribal agate]

Poison Stall is easier than ever and better than off typing

much much easier

[dark osprey]

Yeah even more than 1.5k days

[main crow]

HP+8 is a godsend

[noble plaza]

I used a mono grass team for Lorelei. Should I reset then?

[tribal agate]

they added 1100 free points just for poison stall it's crazy

[main crow]

In hard mode? You can't reset hard mode unfortunately

You have to wait the next week for it to refresh

[noble plaza]

fffff

This game hates me

[dark osprey]

You can manage. Try to get like 8 other types maybe then

[noble plaza]

I want to use my 3/5 Nessa for Bruno and I was planning to have SS blue as well but now I'm unsure

[paper summit]

as long as you have a handful of types already filled, then it's fine, you just need to remember to focus on using the remaining ones next week to unlock MM

how many you get done in a particular week isn't as important

[noble plaza]

Ohhh they carry over? That's good at least!

[paper summit]

yeah, you can't fit 18 types in a given week, so they have to

[noble plaza]

Makes sense lmfao

[boreal rose]

How much points are there ofa single stage in cs?

Like. All parameters together

[tribal agate]

9400

wait that doesn't sound right wtf did Sages do

[blazing narwhal]

^?

[tribal agate]

yeah that's correct i was looking at our sheet and the sum was adding way more than necessary lmao

[boreal rose]

Oh

Whoever is so crazy to try this. Thats a lot

Also. Crazy cuz they would do nearly nothing to the enemy

Imagine killing Cynthia with 5 damage

[dark osprey]

Honestly I wasn't asking for understanding the max points someone could try but just to see if I'd got all the parameters on a sheet

[tired sleet]

There’s poma tools’s thingy if you want to see all the params

[dark osprey]

Did take it from there. Just so many now. The list seems so long

[zealous karma]

I’m pretty sure 29K isn’t possible because even the rats struggle to off type with all the dr

[tribal agate]

@dark osprey are you still around?

can you check this doc please and tell me if you have indeed just viewer rights and nothing is buggy
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r2iVMWPUxVYYVxA-VLIN1Bl6QDFiVQNju1MUai3CKbE/edit?usp=sharing

[zealous karma]

What’s this

[tribal agate]

what

[zealous karma]

Wrong server

[tribal agate]

Richu i think your app is delirious

[zealous karma]

It’s never worked for me lel

[rotund lagoon]

CAN I HAVE THAT GIF

[tribal agate]

try downloading the official GSheet app

lol ofc

[zealous karma]

E wronf seerver

[rotund lagoon]

Reset your Discord

[zealous karma]

I’m just clicking the wrong server lel

[dark osprey]

Oh sorry. Was lurking elsewhere. Seemed ok to me

[zealous karma]

What happens if you scroll down

Cause that’s what I did

[tribal agate]

nothing

it scrolls down

the first column is frozen so you can scroll left/right the presets without losing sight of the params

[zealous karma]

I’d record what I see but e

[tribal agate]

pls download GSheet from the appstore/google store

[paper summit]

those weird numbers and tiles show up on PC for me too, no idea what they are

[paper summit]

not that it matters too much

[tribal agate]

OH

ok that was super far down

that's just leftover

you scared me

ok time to officialize it and then we can edit later if there's issues i'm tired of people asking and not getting anything lol

[dark osprey]

I guess it was just a matter of refreshing. Seems nice

[tribal agate]

CS Resources

• MasterMode Presets
• 2500Pts Presets Screenshot
• Opponent Kits & Stats

For 3000 points, scroll down the pins

[dark osprey]

Thanks 👍

[tribal agate]

[rotund lagoon]

WHEEEEEE FINALLY!!!

[frosty axle]

I liked the previous table we had pin than the document

[manic kiln]

should've put the note for that options in the border on every sheet, also highlight them, even put the note right next to the box. i'm pretty sure most people won't read and just copy

[frosty axle]

Well I won't be using it

just seems too messy for me

[manic kiln]

it's for clueless players anyway, most veterans can come up with their own parameters

[frosty axle]

I guess I will make my own version for my subs

[paper summit]

yeah, they will 100% not read a thing and wonder why their damage dealers are doing nothing

this in reference to the damage reduction params

[manic kiln]

true

[frosty axle]

yes people never read or know how to use a simple search button

seen it often on Facebook and twitter lol

[tribal agate]

there is already a note

[tribal agate]

Eevee you always react this negatively whenever your contributions aren't fully taken into account, chill

[paper summit]

my suggestion would be to put the note at the top, because they won't scroll down, that's pretty much it

[tribal agate]

yeah that's fair i can do that

[manic kiln]

i know, but put them right here

[frosty axle]

what you mean it has nothing to do with my unfinished work?

[manic kiln]

put the note at the end and most people won't see

[cobalt vortex]

Thanks dreamy

[frosty axle]

its constructive criticism

[mellow linden]

Mono-Grass Stadium in a week, folks

[tribal agate]

nothing constructive about "too messy i'll do my own"

[rotund lagoon]

[frosty axle]

you missed the point no point in carry on a conversation

I am thinking for my own discord not this

[mellow linden]

The big question is who I’ll have to take on with half Sync countdown. I’m thinking Bruno or Lorelei

[paper summit]

the pushovers seem like the right choice yeah

granted I think grass weak stages are overall not too bad, even Bertha isn't a big threat once you erase sandstorm

[rotund lagoon]

I’ve never struggled with Grass weak tbh

Brendan came to me really early

[paper summit]

SS Erika too strong

granted I've been using SS Leaf lately, gotta let her shine sometimes

[tired sleet]

Says the person with leaf in their pfp

[rotund lagoon]

[mellow linden]

I’ve got SS Erika, SC Sonia, Gardenia, Lodge Gloria, and Lodge Sycamore lined up. I’ll adjust things as necessary

[grand steppe]

Hmm let me see if we can adjust the display

[tribal agate]

i did already dw

[rotund lagoon]

Tho before she came around, I used Brendan. I am a Day 1 player after all.

[lunar meadow]

@frosty axle

How's 12500 with f2p?
More f2p EX units with the BP update must have some impact

[tribal agate]

Grass weak should be fine, but i fear for the others like Ice/Fairy

[paper summit]

ice CS will be sad, off type everything time

[zealous karma]

Ghetsus is crying!

[lunar meadow]

Grass, dragon, water, ez as hell!

Ice and fairy.... I hope you scout for seasonals. Without seasonals, you have.... Crabominable and Kyurem.

[paper summit]

tbf Candice's nuke is really nice

[tribal agate]

yeah

Candice is amazing

[lunar meadow]

Abomasnow isnt bad now, ya.

Froslass still is

[zealous karma]

Ghetsus 🐴

[lunar meadow]

I EX Abomasnow for a Moltres clear

I did a full 10k toxic stall and a full 10k support run... Many months ago.

I think I can handle type challenges

[paper summit]

yeah, stalling is always an option to fill in the gaps, and 2.5k makes it easier

[tribal agate]

stall has had such a massive buff now

1100 free points added just for stalling

insane

[lunar meadow]

Ya, 300 from type damage, 100 from phys reduction, 100 from spec reduction, and a new HP +8

When I did it, it was a week with:

1. Poison weak fight
2. Stat reduction did more (venom Drench)
3. Stat effects stronger
4. Higher chance to proc secondary effect

I ended up using Egg Golbat at my 5th "badly poison" unit because we didn't have enough at the time

You can get 2700 points without taking the parameters that would affect their attack, str, or prevent debuffing 🤣

[tribal agate]

Zinfogel i believe recently did a full stall 12.5k it's glorious

[rotund lagoon]

Yep that’s the one

[tribal agate]

i was thinking with Helpers we make a video to explain stall mechanics to beginners but that video might be it

[rotund lagoon]

https://youtu.be/6pWpRPyp9VI

[tribal agate]

aye the first team is the perfect free 2500 points for early MM takers

[grand steppe]

Do you call them MC or the PC?

Scottie / Bettie

[tribal agate]

MC

[tired sleet]

The game calls them Main Character (in egg events)

[bright furnace]

speaking of MC, has anyone done MC only 12.5k MM yet? (is it even possible to do it at the 10k level? )

[tribal agate]

unlikely

[paper summit]

especially when most of the non eggmon MCs are supports

and only like 2 eggmons are viable damage wise for CS

[bright furnace]

the MCMM meme clear will have to wait

[frosty axle]

Was easy enough this week, felt like the old 10k point run

[magic crown]

Im working on her next but I'm surprised she did this much with her sync

[tribal agate]

please

[long thicket]

I can do solid damage to Blue's partners with Reshiram, but Blue himself seems like a tank with strong healing as well.

[lunar meadow]

13,500 point toxic stall.

It was easier than the old 10k... And I did the 10k when specific fight parameters were in my favor haha

Agatha's poison status was a pain. Had to swap teams around and settled on Xerneas/Racheleon for a backup and mpr on poison cleanse

And the key to Bruno was flinch. I needed his side units to die before they had "sure crit" with 3 sync buffs. When they did, they ohko my side units.

[frosty axle]

gratz 👍

[lunar meadow]

Having more parameters based on damage (300 for on type, 100 for spec, 100 for phys, 50 for them damaging my strikers harder) makes it much easier.

You don't bring strikers or aim to deal damage anyway.

And we have a lot of units with sync team healing now

[frosty axle]

yes definitely helps

[void wyvern]

Congrats! Clears go in #1010274591601598555 for the future!

[dim marsh]

Hi guys

I'm used to play 15K weekly but after this patch, I would try 20K. It's not something you can do on a weekly basis tho, is it?

[mellow linden]

Do you mean 10k and 12.5k?

[dim marsh]

No

I mean more parameters than I get rewards for

Because it's fun

[mellow linden]

Ah

[dim marsh]

No other reason at all

I've alredy done the first two, but idk, Bruno looks tough

[mellow linden]

If it’s doable in general it’s probably doable each week, but idk for sure since I don’t really do CS challenge runs

[dim marsh]

Is Bruno phys weak?

[mellow linden]

He doesn’t favor either damage category

Defensively speaking

[dim marsh]

Thanks

[noble plaza]

I have a level 100 SS Misty. Is it worth leveling her up/gridding her for the champion stadium?

[mellow linden]

SS Misty is pretty niche

If you wanna make her work you can, but there’s better options for Water

[trail smelt]

MiSSty solely nukes iirc

[mellow linden]

She also has some niche things like Haze

But again, niche

[meager agate]

i remember when we were telling new players “oh yeah just do 2.5k or 4k runs and work your way up”

i mean we technically do still say that but now 7.5k is considered a low bar lmfao

me love power creep

[paper summit]

I'd still not recommend them to go full force on it, but resetting is free

so they can attempt more points if they choose

[old orchid]

I think Aurochs did a 10k run with MC only. They posted the run in their forum #1011675077764456519

[bright furnace]

looks like that one was just 15 types non MM

[old orchid]

Yeah i misremembered

[bright furnace]

it'll happen one day

[old orchid]

It might happen in this CS

[swift swan]

it'll happen when those eggmons get good grids

[dark osprey]

or we just get more BP master passive ones with MCs

[swift swan]

Those BP master pairs tend to be supports

[dark osprey]

yeah that's there too

maybe its just a pipe dream

[swift swan]

For now

Until eggmons get grids

[dark osprey]

hmm. grids will be very welcome ngl

don't think they will give any multipliers to the magikarp though

btw, just realized that striker & tech damage *3 is not applicable to enemy sync. If someone could check here separately it would be nice

[swift swan]

Yeah, I've heard that too

[dark osprey]

Ah great. More free points

Either ways pre sync it doesn't matter I guess

[paper summit]

I wouldn't call that free points necessarily due to some stages having AoE

and it's only 50 points each...

[dark osprey]

Yeah. All them points count though

Guess no zone is the best parameter

It slightly kinda balances it out without a zone

Also, for rush parameters, surprisingly strikers can also manage tanking the AOE since it's only one at the most I think

Considering the striker/tech one shots the sides though

[zealous karma]

Should’ve been 150

[dark osprey]

At least 100

And supports 150

Will be using Piers more often then

[molten nimbus]

is it just me or this 12.5k master mode just buffed stall a whole lot?

[keen jasper]

Interference Immunity changes it

[molten nimbus]

yea but that doesnt worth a lot

it's just 50

[dark osprey]

but yeah. stall is like easier than ever before

[zealous karma]

Since you rarely run strikers or sometimes even techs in stalls it’s pretty free

[molten nimbus]

like sides just die in one turn lmao

[zealous karma]

Lots of HP etc

[molten nimbus]

although the sync took a whole lot longer (blame poison 9)

[molten nimbus]

yeah lmao

since you dont need direct damage

you could just have all the X reduction

just keep power hit and sync buff out

[dim marsh]

I've beat 20K, I'm happy

[tired sleet]

I guess 4k would have indirectly been made easier by the new params 👀

[frosty axle]

5k is probably the new 4k

[long thicket]

Oh yeah, so these 300 points are free if I go on-type, great.
But yeah, Blue's healing is currently an issue.

Darnit, I was almost there with EX Leon, Reshiram and Sycamore...

Blue's sync is too strong even with Sycamore's defense buff.

[swift swan]

Blue's healing shouldn't be an issue with a team like that

[long thicket]

Yeah, this was my first time with this combination and it went close.

[swift swan]

though you can probably just run either Leon or Anni N with a sun setter and be good

[long thicket]

No support sun setter, I think...

Let alone an EX one.

Yeah, Blue's sync just one-shots them.

Silver sets sun when EX, but is he a good replacement for either Leon or N?

[swift swan]

what parameters are you running?

[swift swan]

just blaine or ss erika is fine. Anni N or Leon are sufficient enough to be the main damage dealer, though I'm not sure what their move levels are for you

[swift swan]

Silver feasts on fire-weak stages for breakfast. is yours EX'd and powerboosted, by any chance?

[long thicket]

Yeah.

Not too sure of the grid anymore, I'll check.

[proud axle]

I used Blaine Silver Skyla for that fight

[long thicket]

Maybe it's outdated...

[proud axle]

2.5k

[long thicket]

It's currently like this, but I think I changed one thing or two from the recommended one.

Recommended one being...
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/13301/25000?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFERQfICEjJCgqLTAxMjM

[proud axle]

Neither Berserker nor Ramp Up?

I used an Overheat build myself, since it's so much stronger.

[tired sleet]

Probably the unboosted build

But yeah, you generally want overheat unless you’re going for a nuke only build

[proud axle]

104 BP on Sacred Fire vs 163 BP on Overheat

[long thicket]

Overheat reduces stats, I think. That's why I'm hesitant.

[tired sleet]

People generally give silver the dauntless lucky skill from

[proud axle]

Silver does not need to give a single poop about SpAtk Down

[potent wadi]

They picked up the Attack and Sp Attack + 20

[tired sleet]

I suppose giving silver max spatk and attack and speed is difficult

[proud axle]

I didn't and still presynced with 2.5k

Without quadqueue either

Overheat is that strong

[tired sleet]

Fair
What team?

[proud axle]

Skyla Blaine Silver

I should have given Skyla the first sync. I gave it to Silver instead. With +0Atk.

Still presync cleared with Overheat

[tired sleet]

0 atk and 0 spatk

[proud axle]

Nah I had 4 SpA and 6 Speed

[tired sleet]

I’m just assuming they picked up the atk+20 tile on accident and its an unboosted build

[long thicket]

Wow, first try.

RNG from these materials make me very hesitant to use them...

I did use that on Brendan, but rarely ever for other units.

[tired sleet]

Lucky Cookies are made to be used
And they can be farmed infinitely from lg now

[proud axle]

Also max crit but that kinda goes without saying, since Blaine is here to provide Sun

[long thicket]

Yeah, but I'm not the most confident at Gauntlet.
I do like one run each fight.

[proud axle]

Just reset your winstreak and re-kill the easiest one over and over

Today is the last day for Gauntlet

[long thicket]

So this?
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/13301/25000?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFHyAiIyQlJigqLzAxMjM0

For Overheat.

[potent wadi]

PoMa tools doesn't have those nodes for unboosted

[tired sleet]

They haven’t selected the unboosted silver on poma tools, but that doesn’t mean they have the boost

[tired sleet]

Ik that exists, but maybe they didn’t see it?

[proud axle]

Bulu is very straightforward, or Latias isn't very strong if you counter-build. Both can be reliably singleteamed

I thought they said he is boosted and showed a grid with the boost nodes active

[long thicket]

I have the boost and EX.

I did answer that earlier, but I don't blame you for not noticing.

[frosty axle]

there are better sync nuke grids

[long thicket]

So far, Lana is the only Defense raiser I tried that allows Reshiram and Ho-Oh to survive the sync. But I still lost by not much.

[proud axle]

...Win before sync

I did it with F2Ps

Was this hard or master? Which parameters are you using?

Also who in blazes is giving you Speed on that team

Silver needs Speed for Inertia

[long thicket]

Finally succeeded with seasonal Mallow as a support.

[proud axle]

Did you already use Skyla up?

[long thicket]

No.

[proud axle]

Oh.
What was stopping you from using her for it then? Speed and Def were exactly what you were asking for

[long thicket]

Yeah, I dunno, sorry...

[proud axle]

[long thicket]

Well first 12500 run...
Was a little rough.
I had to use the electric cheat against Agatha.

[proud axle]

I just used Ghetsis Pryce Sycamore

Ez af

Never underestimate this game's freebies, they're really strong

[long thicket]

No EX Pryce.

[dark osprey]

No way EX Pryce

Just Pryce

[proud axle]

...Why the hell would I EX Pryce

Ghetsis is the one with the nuke

And Sycamore needs the first sync

I didn't even end up using Skyla's Support EX sync for Blue, though I honestly should have

[swift swan]

in what world would you EX Pryce unless he's a fave

he's one of those units that I genuinely forget has an EX

[old orchid]

Why EX Pryce when non EX Ghetsis exists 😔

[keen jasper]

[bright furnace]

You EX Pryce if fav or for the meme clear of course..

[fiery canopy]

weeeeeee its time for Round Three
um should i fight bruno or lance for r3

[old orchid]

Who are your dmg dealers for Bruno/Lance?

Cyrus is a great pick for Bruno

[fiery canopy]

i dont have anybodie picked out specifically but ill go w cyrus

i should probably fight bruno now then, because cyrus's moves r special right?

[keen jasper]

Yes

[fiery canopy]

kayyy
would giocat and syca be good support? they both have gradual healing
or should i save them for someone else?

[keen jasper]

Bruno is physical

[fiery canopy]

someone w high defense then?
ooh yikes both giocat and syca are both at a type disadvantage here so maybe not

[keen jasper]

Giovanni/Persian already buffs the offensive stats

Maybe someone like Skyla who buffs defense and speed

[old orchid]

Skyla and Winona

[fiery canopy]

i think i already used skyla 😔

[old orchid]

Cyrus can self buff spatk and speed, and crit with grid

Anyone with def buffs works

[fiery canopy]

hmm.,.......

lana has grad healing and also raises phys defense....

what do nyall think

[old orchid]

Yup she is good

[fiery canopy]

kewllll

[lunar meadow]

Araquanid is always a unit I forget, but she's super bulky and has great self recovery

And her team fire resist made Moltres a joke for one of my clears

[winter viper]

12,5k

[fiery canopy]

first try lets goooo

aight now onto lance

any particular sync pairs yall recommend for him?

[bright furnace]

Solgaleo is easily accessible

some speed buffs and someone who can buff crit and you'll be ok

[fiery canopy]

kk

lets seeee.....syc, hilbert, marley, roxanne, and cmarnie all raise speed

ingo and emmet raise crit rate...

as do a handful of other pairs....

should i send my roster?

[old orchid]

Go ahead

[fiery canopy]

kayy
ill block out the units ive already used

[old orchid]

If you havent planned a team for champion, we will help you making it

[bright furnace]

yeah, might as well plan for both steel weak and fire weak

[fiery canopy]

what yall think?

[swift swan]

you can always use hop + solgaleo + speed buffer for steel weak

and ol' reliable silver for fire-weak

[fiery canopy]

i was gonna use hop yeye
are there any particular speed buffers i should use?

[swift swan]

eh, no one in particular imo

just grid hop for TM MPR so he can max solgaleo's crit

[bright furnace]

skyla is good ole reliable

but don't see her on that list, which confuses me lol

[swift swan]

I wouldn't carry both skyla and hop in one battle. you might need her potions later

skyla is used

[bright furnace]

ah i saw winona but for the life of me couldn't find skyla

[swift swan]

yeah she's the one blocked out

[fiery canopy]

ok before i pick the final member, whats the best team for silver

[swift swan]

hmmm you don't have him powerboosted but that's alright, you can run his nuke grid

so someone to max his attack and crit + sun setter

oh you got 3/5 Hilbert, he's good

[bright furnace]

just me or i don't see a sun setter in that pic

[keen jasper]

Blaine?

[bright furnace]

yeah i'm trying to find him lol.

[boreal rose]

Ngl. Next CS feels easier than the one this week

Finally. I'l use CHop

Diantha too

[fiery canopy]

i dont have blaine unfortunately
but i doooo have a ninetales w it!

from an egg

[keen jasper]

Is it 3 passive and shiny?
JK

[grand trout]

Silver is still an option

[fiery canopy]

i do happen to have a shiny mankey and eggsecute lol

[grand trout]

Albeit after sync

[grand trout]

Shinies have better stats?

[keen jasper]

No

[fiery canopy]

they r just cool

[grand trout]

Oh

[keen jasper]

It's just like the shiny from the mainlines

[grand trout]

Ah

[grand trout]

many are ugly?

[keen jasper]

Probably

[fiery canopy]

sooo, for lance: hop, solgaleo, any speed buffer
for blue: silver, ninetales, hilbert

[keen jasper]

Just making sure, but do you have Silver's power ups?

[fiery canopy]

noe

[proud axle]

Already used Blaine...? Well, Ninetales is fine too

[bright furnace]

more like, doesn't have blaine

[proud axle]

Hilbert doesn't even need to be 3/5 for this since Silver can max crit on his own in sun

[bright furnace]

so i guess tech ninetales will have to do

[fiery canopy]

dont have blaine unfortunately

[bright furnace]

they are gridded right?

[proud axle]

That... Surprises me, considering how long it's been since Egg Vulpix was last available. But weirder things have happened I suppose

[fiery canopy]

lemme checkkkkkk

ah fuck my phones bout to die

[proud axle]

Hilbert can work gridless for this
Silver will want to be gridded tho

[fiery canopy]

and my power has been out for over a damn day
goooooodbyeeeeeeee

[proud axle]

See ya

[bright furnace]

There’s plenty of time to get it done before the CS reset. We’ll be here when your power is back

[proud axle]

(Glances at the riddle event's Day 1 mission)
Yeah, we'll be here after you get Volkner to fix the mess he made

[grand pond]

that blue fight was truly something else

mfw this game actually makes me think for once

I just memed through it with hoenn psychics but still it took me waaay more attempts than I would've liked

[proud axle]

I did it with two freebies and a 4star genpool pair, 2.5k
It's not so bad

[torn hemlock]

Anybody have a screenshot of the pre sync stadium?

[rotund lagoon]

Parameters?

[torn hemlock]

Yes sorry

[rotund lagoon]

[torn hemlock]

I don't see it

[rotund lagoon]

There is a link to a document.

You need to click that.

[torn hemlock]

It's just a spreadsheet is there not like a simple screenshot?

[rotund lagoon]

Spreadsheet. The new parameters changed things, you’re gonna need to look through it.

I recommend the Google Sheets app btw instead of Discord’s browser

[torn hemlock]

Oh okay cuz I remember the other one for 2k had a screenshot

[rotund lagoon]

There are new parameters that got added, so we had to update things.

2.5k is the max per match now.

[torn hemlock]

It's cuz I'm on my phone and not on discord at home

[tribal agate]

hope this helps

just follow the checkmarks

the borders between certain parameters means "one or the other"

i recommend using the official google sheet app for opening these, we have lots of documents on the discord too.

[torn hemlock]

Thank you!!!

[fiery canopy]

YEY my power is back onnnn TIME FOR PME

ok back to what i was doing before. hop, solgaleo, and a speed raiser for lance

hmm

maaaybe roxanne?

sol and roxanne r both at a type disadvantage Yikes

[rotund lagoon]

Huh?

[fiery canopy]

theyre both weak to attacks from lance/whatever side pkmn

[rotund lagoon]

Do you know which one? You can check in-game.

[fiery canopy]

lance and one of the side trainers have fighting, which rox is weak to
the other side trainer has ground, which sol is weak to

[rotund lagoon]

If Hop can raise Defense, I do not see as much of a problem.

[fiery canopy]

tru
lets give it a shot

[paper summit]

well, if you have Hop in that team then he should be the one tanking in the first place, so Roxanne will be fine

[rotund lagoon]

Plus, they do not use those moves often and you just need to take them out before it is an issue.

[paper summit]

as for Solgaleo, you'll have to keep an eye on his health because the ground moves are AoE

[rotund lagoon]

Good thing Hop has Potion

[paper summit]

yeah, Stomping Tantrum shouldn't be too bad, it's mostly Earthquake you should be paying attention to, but it's that one move they use only after center is gone

the Golem is the one that will use it, so keep that in mind

[rotund lagoon]

Earthquake is categorized as 1/1 and KO.

[paper summit]

the Gigalith only uses single target so it's less of a concern

[fiery canopy]

GOTTEEEM
took a couple tries but i got it!

ty hop for being an excellent tank

look out blue >:)

ooh which parameter

faster move gauge maybe?

plz

[rotund lagoon]

What is the team you’re doing and what are the special parameter choices?

If you cannot choose a parameter now, you can change it.

[fiery canopy]

i picked it already uwaahhh
silver/ninetales/hilbert

but i can change hilbert if needed

[void wyvern]

Is your silver power boosted?

[fiery canopy]

naw

[void wyvern]

No problemo. Blue is pretty easy,

[fiery canopy]

hilbert is not holding up as well as id like him to....

[void wyvern]

Do you want alternatives?

[rotund lagoon]

I’m wondering, do you have Dauntless?

You seem to be going for Sacred Fire if Hilbert is there.

[fiery canopy]

yes pls

[fiery canopy]

dauntless what

[main crow]

It's a lucky skill

Prevents sp atk drop

[fiery canopy]

ohh
probably not

[void wyvern]

If you have dauntless lucky skill on Silver, you can use overheat without losing damage

[main crow]

Usually only ran on Silver if ur using overheat

[void wyvern]

If you’d rather focus on sacred fire. We can keep trying that.

[fiery canopy]

wait wtf i chose fast move gauge as my parameter but it says "physical moves are powered up" ???????

oh nvm lol

[void wyvern]

You have to use two parameters for the champion

[fiery canopy]

should i change my second parameter?

[void wyvern]

No, increased move gauge is a good choice.

[fiery canopy]

gud

good tanks beside hilbert?

[void wyvern]

If you can show your supports we can pick another one out

[fiery canopy]

hmm....ingo.......
kk hold on

maybe i should just say Fuck it and use ingo

[void wyvern]

But if you use ingo silver won’t have sun and will lose a lot of damage. A bit counterintuitive, don’t you think?

[rotund lagoon]

You gotta think about the effects of each Support

[fiery canopy]

oh i meant ingo instead of hilbert
ninetales is staying

i dont HAVE to use sandstorm just bc im using ingo

[void wyvern]

true, but it does hurt ingo’s value and without silver power boost. Silver doesn’t boost his attack and without sandstorm ingo is giving you only 2-3 attack up. He also won’t boost your speed without sandstorm.

Ingo will provide less than Hilbert without sandstorm

[fiery canopy]

true

[rotund lagoon]

Do you have Sonia available?

[void wyvern]

.

[fiery canopy]

nope

ok ok lemme go get my supports rq

[rotund lagoon]

Which ones have been used?

I know Hop

[void wyvern]

I still believe Hilbert is your best choice.

If you’re worried about bulk we can use shielded on tm and endurance to buy time.

[fiery canopy]

roxanne, lana, hop, morty, uhh
alrightie

is that grid stuff

[void wyvern]

Yes.

[rotund lagoon]

Wait

Is Hilbert gridded?

[fiery canopy]

...............no

[void wyvern]

No grid would be causing a lot of problems

[rotund lagoon]

You need the Crit Squad from grid.

[void wyvern]

Crit squad will greatly improve your success rate

[rotund lagoon]

Remember Crit is a valuable stat and Hilbert can max it from grid.

[fiery canopy]

shoot
well i gotta go find some more sync orbs

[void wyvern]

You still have 4 more days to gather those before cs resets

Patience can pay off in unexpected ways

[rotund lagoon]

Definitely get more first

You need 7500 to fully grid someone.

[void wyvern]

You can get orbs from training area, from the event portion of the shop, and rarely from lodge.

[rotund lagoon]

In Lodge, you can use lodge stones for orbs too.

[fiery canopy]

may have to wait til tomorrow to beat him then
i already got my training area ones, i dont have enough lodge stones, and i already traded for the max amnt w event vouchers

[void wyvern]

That’s alright.

He’ll still be there tomorrow

[rotund lagoon]

[long thicket]

If we get 12500 in Hoenn or Sinnoh next....
Yeah, I'm gonna pass, I still have to do 10k consistently in these.

Alola hasn't been happening in a while, I think?

[manic kiln]

Alola is next month 100%

Then back to sinnoh

[proud axle]

Wait
Hilbert doesn't need grid to buff Silver

Hilbert can buff Silver gridless on that team

Silver benefits from gridding but Hilbert doesn't need anything here

Between Silver's own selfbuffs and Hilbert's gridless kit, with that Ninetales providing sun, Silver can get max Atk and crit anyway

Hilbert is better than Ingo here, since Ingo takes forever to buff Silver's Speed for Ramming/Inertia

[fiery canopy]

GOTTEEEEEEEEEEEEEM

it was real close lol

[primal field]

for the round with additional effect more likely to occur will staggering from grid count?

[mellow linden]

No

[tired sleet]

It only affects additional affects of moves in the move description, not passives

[primal field]

So if it is written on move description it will right?

[paper summit]

innate effect = it will boost
added effect, aka, a passive = won't boost

[mellow linden]

Yes, if the move says it has a chance to do something the likelihood will be increased

[primal field]

Ok, thks!

[grand trout]

Does impervious negates 5 stats at debuff?

[mellow linden]

It should

Though I admittedly haven’t tested it

[zealous karma]

It does and downside up also helps

[void wyvern]

Gardenia and Clair profit

[paper summit]

Will can copy and double enemy stats, granted that's a riskier play

[void wyvern]

Mina viability!

[dark osprey]

Synchro healing not affected by ally healing down now right?

[paper summit]

correct

only active healing is halved now, potion-like TMs/moves only

[dark osprey]

Nice. Synchro healing EXs be great now

[tired sleet]

Active Healing is a Passive Skill though

[cinder summit]

Active Healing 9

Restores the user's HP when it uses a move.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Allister (Fall 2022) & Gourgeist

If you like the bot, consider becoming a Patron: https://patreon.com/PoryphoneBot

[paper summit]

ok fine, direct healing, better?

[fringe valve]

Agatha has increased hp right?

[dark osprey]

yeah. slightly

i guess 20% or slightly more

[patent torrent]

holy

i realized why ive always been letting the enemy team have 2 syncs

i was just setting my own parameters and i check off all the hp ones lol

just did this new one based on the guide and i do so much damage

[manic kiln]

[patent torrent]

it worked on the old bar, i was regularly getting 10k with offtypes

[manic kiln]

Better late than never

[patent torrent]

but i tried checking off all the hp ones on this one and it was just no progress on the hp lmao i think i got golbat to like 7/8 hp before my ash team died

so i guess i gotta either memorize these or have the gsheet handy when monday rolls around 🥴

[manic kiln]

You never pick hp unless you poison stall or you want to do 3-4k run per battle. It worked for 2k before because you used OP teams like ash

[patent torrent]

well true

[manic kiln]

But usually it is not recommended

[zealous karma]

Wdym by 2 syncs? The sync buff 5 or the sync countdown -2? Cause sync buff 5 is free if you pre sync

[patent torrent]

like, theyve been able to get 2 syncs off before i manage to finally kill them

battles go on that long

[zealous karma]

Oh i sees

[proud axle]

HP modifiers (as do the Atk/SpAtk and Def/SpDef ones) stack multiplicatively, I believe. So if you used HP +2, +4, +6, and +8...

...The enemy will have nearly quintuple HP

[keen jasper]

With full HP and strength, you'll have 7.28x HP

[civic trellis]

Could this work? (Pasio stadium)

I could off type as well but id have to figure out what other params to use

[old orchid]

It seems its ~7.24x HP

[keen jasper]

Oh yeah, I forgot that I calced it once

[full mesa]

Silver could definitely nuke that pre sync

[old orchid]

[swift swan]

Silver is amazing and all but

He can reach 6 figures but most likely not 200k

[keen jasper]

That's assuming you don't weaken the enemy

[dark osprey]

Seems doable. Just the selene and mallow team may need some gauge management or so and hope lyra is 3/5+EX

[dark osprey]

Which of these teams for grass type special CS seem less reliable comparatively?

Assuming all at least 3/5 and EXs wherever possible

[old orchid]

All of them are good enough to clear, some are even overkill

[swift swan]

That's true, but not a lot of team comps can do that, I imagine. Silver/Sonia/Gordie maybe? Sonia for def debuffs, Gordie for rebuff and sun

[grim bison]

Any improvements I can make?

[dark osprey]

Is this for the type medal?

[civic trellis]

Luckily kiawe is good at it I think, and no lyra isnt EX but she’s 5/5

I keep any EX in their EX outfit btw

Oh and cbede (1/5) and selene (2/5) r my only pairs here not 3/5+

[dark osprey]

Asked because I thought you'd sync with her for solarize

[old orchid]

Master Mode for the special CS is unlocked from the start

[dark osprey]

I actually meant for the teams by mirror b

They seem kinda mixed

[old orchid]

They are good, but i would replace Raihan with a Grass dmg dealer like Gardenia to take advantage of sun and Erika really appreciates theme skill bonus

[keen jasper]

SS Morty/Silver/Gordie

[civic trellis]

It seems like its for the special CS

[swift swan]

Rip, I don't have ss morty

[keen jasper]

But which has a stronger effect, full defense debuff or +30 offensive stats?

Also, SS Morty is from Johto so it gives Silver +37 Atk.

[proud axle]

Depends how much resistance the target enemy has, versus how much Sp/Atk the attacker has without the themeskill

[keen jasper]

Would 5 resist be better than theme skills?

[proud axle]

At 5 resist, -6Sp/Def increases your damage by about 28.6% if I did the math correctly

So the themeskills have to give more than that fraction of the attacker's base

IIRC Silver has barely 300 Sp/Atk with power boost grid

Going off a value of exactly 300, you would need +86 Sp/Atk from themeskills to beat -6 defenses

What is our objective btw

I feel like themeskills would be more practical unless this is just theory crafting for Large Number

[keen jasper]

Sonia would have to waste turns setting up Silver, so Silver doesn't benefit her full defense drop

[proud axle]

That is exactly the kind of thing I mean, yeah

Who's in the third slot tho

[keen jasper]

Gordie

[proud axle]

Oh, he's technically Rock, huh...

[keen jasper]

But he has fire rebuff

[proud axle]

Ye, I get it

And max flare for sun

[keen jasper]

And he can either set up sun or lower defense with G-Max Vocalith

[proud axle]

Silver wants the sun up at the time of his sync, which is extremely unlikely if he's summoning the sun himself

[keen jasper]

If you're trying to save up Silver's SEUN, then you need Sonia to set up his buffs for him

Or use 1 TM and 2 of Sonia's TM

[proud axle]

Put Defense Crush on Gordie ig

[keen jasper]

?

[keen jasper]

Then who sets up sun?

[proud axle]

Gordie with Max Flare.

Do... do you know what Defense Crush is

[keen jasper]

I see what you meant now

I thought you meant use G-Max Vocalith with Defense Crush

[keen jasper]

I know

What it is

[swift swan]

I am never doing this again

[main crow]

Image got sent twice?

[swift swan]

Really?

It only shows once on my end, kinda weird

Oooh, I see it now

Discord L moment

[swift swan]

Couldn't debuff Blue enough because of course he has stoic!

[dark osprey]

At least the round parameter helps

[teal siren]

How likely is “more likely to take effect” in round one for status conditions?

I have not gotten a single freeze with ghetsis

Love how I message in here for questions and when I go back to the game while waiting for a response I end up beating the level

[keen jasper]

Likely to take effect means that when there's a status inflicted, there's a chance that it will happen like confusion

[teal siren]

Okay so it has nothing to do with getting frozen

[keen jasper]

Freeze will last longer too

But the chance of it happening will still be the same

[dark osprey]

The thing is ghetsis' cold snap being not inherent to the move

If it were there would be more chances of it happening

[snow shore]

iirc this one (Round 1 param) only applies to actual status move (eg. Thunder Wave, Sing, Willowisp, etc..) kinda like Troublemaker does, but not moves with "a chance to"
For dmg moves with "a chance to X" you wanna look for the other parameter "more likely to occur" which is in Round 2 this week

[mellow linden]

I thought round 1 effect only affected statuses/conditions that are currently affecting the opponent/you?

[proud axle]

Someone should put this to the test and see if Thunder Wave can miss

[trail smelt]

Oh I thought it made the effects stronger and last longer

[swift swan]

that's what I thought round 1 would do?

you take more damage from poison/burn/trap, or higher chance to get fully paralyzed or hit yourself in confusion

[gritty sentinel]

what is a mono grass stadium?

u can only use grass pairs?

[old orchid]

you can use every type, but Grass is the only weakness

[tame gust]

the hardest part of Non MM stadiums: throwing together teams to meet the type reqs.

[old orchid]

the Master Mode of the special stadium is unlocked from the start

[tame gust]

...This makes me happy.

[proud axle]

The Elite Four are taken from existing Grass-weak Elite Four members from different leagues; the champion is a new fight against Neo Serena.
Neo Serena's biggest gimmick is Satisfied Snarl, but that... hilariously barely affects grass attackers

Brendan demands Dauntless by default, Gardenia has either that or grids for Sunny Disposition, Silver already demands Dauntless for Overheat but could use it for Solarbeam, Sycamore(Xerneas) can grid for Impervious (and has a phys Grass attack anyway), and Sycamore(Bulbasaur) has Impervious innate
It's... actually harder to find a Grass attacker who cares about Satisfied Snarl than one who doesn't
So, like... SSLeaf I guess?? If you don't use her on one of the three Toxic-Stall-Friendly fights???
Victor is phys, Lodge Gloria is phys, Ramos is phys, SSErika is phys, Selene is phys, Mallow is phys, Striker Dawn is phys...
So that leaves... what, SSLyra if you use her sync?

Hol up, I forgot SC Sonia.

(checks)

...and she is phys

[undone ether]

@gritty sentinel tbh,

the 2 problem sync pairs would be

The Champion

and Bertha as your priority.

the rest can be punched with current pairs.

Bertha just does sandstorm sheningans,

[proud axle]

The ones other than Bertha and Neo Serena... have Lessen Poison 8 instead of 9

[undone ether]

you have to change the weather immediately, and kill her immediately.

[proud axle]

So you can toxic stall at least one of them

[undone ether]

Bertha doesnt have Lessen Poison 9/8 iirc

but you STILL need weather so

yeah

[proud axle]

....She should have Lessen 9

Because every CS boss has Lessen Poison 9 by default

[undone ether]

weird

she didnt have it when i checked

[proud axle]

The other three E4 have Lessen 8 to override the Lessen 9 default

The chart probably doesn't say she has Lessen Burn 9 or Lessen Para 8 either

Because those are default

[gritty sentinel]

bertha can be countered with sun right

[proud axle]

That's the intention, yeah

Use sun to overwrite the sand, and use sun-boosted grass attackers

Brendan and Gardenia have sun bonuses in grid, Silver and SSErika have sun bonuses innate

[gritty sentinel]

ill probably put a ss erika and morty team on her and the champion maybe sc sonia and ss lyra

[proud axle]

Sure, just don't sync with SSLyra vs the champ

[gritty sentinel]

i have her 1/5 lmao

ex supp needed or no?

[tired sleet]

No

[rotund lagoon]

How come?

[proud axle]

her sync is special

Neo Serena is super anti-special

[gritty sentinel]

the rest i can offtype tho right

[undone ether]

you can

but its generally good idea to build up your grass sync pairs

Free Points basically

[undone ether]

300 for On-type sheningans

[gritty sentinel]

cmarnie, CHop, and lucas can offtype well right

[proud axle]

Or 300 for toxic stall, and... 3 of the E4 are very toxic-stallable

[gritty sentinel]

jesus 21k

[old orchid]

In 3 separate teams, yes

What are their move level?

[gritty sentinel]

all 3/5

[undone ether]

o_o

then that's more than enough

[old orchid]

Good

[gritty sentinel]

alr thats nice

[undone ether]

for CHop, u got Aura Cynthia?

[rotund lagoon]

I tend to keep forgetting that and it’s just weird af

[proud axle]

Most grass attackers don't care, hilariously

[gritty sentinel]

should i pair maxie with ss erika on my sun team?

[proud axle]

I posted it just a few moments ago but I'll get it

[rotund lagoon]

Why are you asking if they have a limited unit?

[old orchid]

SSA Cynthia is not needed in Hop's team

[proud axle]

Brendan demands Dauntless by default, Gardenia has either that or grids for Sunny Disposition, Silver already demands Dauntless for Overheat but could use it for Solarbeam, Sycamore(Xerneas) can grid for Impervious (and has a phys Grass attack anyway), and Sycamore(Bulbasaur) has Impervious innate
It's... actually harder to find a Grass attacker who cares about Satisfied Snarl than one who doesn't
So, like... SSLeaf I guess?? If you don't use her on one of the three Toxic-Stall-Friendly fights???
Victor is phys, Lodge Gloria is phys, Ramos is phys, SSErika is phys, Selene is phys, Mallow is phys, Striker Dawn is phys...
So that leaves... what, SSLyra if you use her sync?

Hol up, I forgot SC Sonia.

(checks)

...and she is phys

[undone ether]

as long as you dont get Icy Wind like mad 😮

[rotund lagoon]

You cannot assume they have a limited unit….

[undone ether]

hence why i asked o-o

[gritty sentinel]

i dont have her

[undone ether]

they have 3/5 of 3 limited units.

got it

[gritty sentinel]

candies

[old orchid]

Doesnt mean they have a certain unit

You can ask them to show their roster instead

[proud axle]

They... asked. I don't think they assumed anything

[rotund lagoon]

Tbh, it was a weird choice, not just that. Gakon said they are not needed and I do not get how she would be needed anyway.

[gritty sentinel]

what does ssa cynthia even do

[rotund lagoon]

In our experience, asking about a unit means they intend to want them to use it.

[gritty sentinel]

sets up zone but chop alr does that right

[old orchid]

she sets Fighting Zone on entry and after sync

thats right

[gritty sentinel]

ah

[old orchid]

she is a defensive support, but she is not needed in Hop's team

[gritty sentinel]

okay

will there be parameters btw in mono grass?

[old orchid]

you mean Master Mode, or one parameter for each round?

[gritty sentinel]

in the mono grass stadium

[proud axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009554906568462476/1090626926437224498/PasioCS.png

[gritty sentinel]

will there be params

oh

[proud axle]

If you need to check it again later, it's in the pins

[gritty sentinel]

i meant like master mode paras

[proud axle]

I mean yeah, it's going to have Master Mode

Master Mode without parameters is identical to Hard

[gritty sentinel]

oh

you unlock it like normal master mode i assume

[proud axle]

No, it's just open at the start

[undone ether]

Bertha asks a lot tbh

[gritty sentinel]

oh

[proud axle]

Because we can't do 18 types across two resets when... there is no reset

[undone ether]

😦

[gritty sentinel]

thats nice

[rotund lagoon]

This is a special event

[proud axle]

You can see the difference between Sinnoh CS skillsets and earlier CS skillsets here

[undone ether]

iunno yet

[proud axle]

Kanto Lorelei, Johto Bruno, and Unova Grimsley

[undone ether]

if i should just SS Morty + SS erika + a Tank.

[proud axle]

All have short skillsets

[rotund lagoon]

Sun is accessible tho, it is not the end of the world.

[undone ether]

i was hoping to get

[proud axle]

I have Maxie so I'd use him there

[undone ether]

SS Morty + SS Erika + Groudon

[rotund lagoon]

Feels kinda overkill

[gritty sentinel]

that would be a good team right

but

the icy wind

[undone ether]

HUM

[gritty sentinel]

wont that be a problem

[undone ether]

if they have ICy Wind, groudon will probably get the hits a lot

[proud axle]

...What Icy Wind?

[old orchid]

SS Morty has Potion

wait, Bertha stage doesnt even have Icy Wind

[gritty sentinel]

then who said it has icy wind

[undone ether]

HUHU

[proud axle]

I don't know???

[rotund lagoon]

What are you even talking about at this point?

[undone ether]

Lorelei

D:<

[proud axle]

I'm probably going to toxic-stall Lorelei and recommend others do similar, so... who even cares

[rotund lagoon]

Lorelei looks easy as shit

[gritty sentinel]

is lorelei like the 3rd biggest threat there

if so

im throwing cmarnie there

[proud axle]

Bruno has Full Heal and Grimsley gains crit, so I'm disinclined to Toxic Stall there

[old orchid]

Lorelei is easy tbh

[rotund lagoon]

I just said this

[old orchid]

the biggest threat is aoe spam but you can just bring spdef support

[gritty sentinel]

cmarnie somewhat benefits from aoe attacks no?

so it can trigger the passive

[old orchid]

nah she just needs to lose 1 HP

[proud axle]

...Just use her TM

[gritty sentinel]

no i mean her

spikemuth grit pasive

passive*

[dark osprey]

There's like even 3-4 grass sleepmons too. Not like the type matters tbh

[old orchid]

it only activates once

[proud axle]

They don't even need to be grass, really

[undone ether]

is the new champ stadium gonna be in a week or something?

[proud axle]

Apr 11 I think?

[old orchid]

#1012256199128915968 has dates

[undone ether]

oh in 4 days i guess

i'll buiold teams for it next week i guess

[proud axle]

Also at the bottom of the pinned chart

[dark osprey]

Exactly. Maybe it's just for us to notice

[undone ether]

I'm leaning on using uh

Chicken for Serena

Brendan for Lorelei

Lodge Gloria somewhere

and SS Leaf i guess. that should do it

[dark osprey]

One more right?

[rotund lagoon]

I’m prepared af

[undone ether]

SS Erika, SS Morty and Groudon.

for Bertha

[rotund lagoon]

I don’t even like using Gardenia, Lodge Sycamore is 10x better

[undone ether]

oh right

Lodge Sycamore is Strike

[rotund lagoon]

He’s fun tbh

[undone ether]

i'll have to check my roster haha

[dark osprey]

True. Sycamores and a poison unit does some great damage

[rotund lagoon]

You can use BP Erika/Janine/Koga instead of SS Leaf

[dark osprey]

Yeah. I kinda like Janine now. So useful

[rotund lagoon]

Leaf is a fav, so ofc I’m using her everywhere she is allowed

[dark osprey]

Or even Lucy

[rotund lagoon]

I don’t like her for damage, but holy crap that high Poison chance

[dark osprey]

And debuffs too