Champion Stadium

[trail smelt]

Aye that’s what I ended up doing

Now my biggest worry is the SS Lyra team doesn’t have enough firepower haha. I am very bad at juggling flinch and sleep

I wish I have RoSCa

… oh I do have Gardenia…

[stray cipher]

jUsT fLiNCh

[dark osprey]

ahaa. then go gardenia instead of Ramos

tbh Ramos sleep isn't needed when u have SS Lyra flinch

[swift swan]

If you're confident with your damage dealer's numbers, pick HP params I suppose

Or the params that make techs/strikers take x3 damage

[trail smelt]

The triple damage thing made me have some fun with my team haha

[stray cipher]

One thing that will be fun is running double support and striker so you can do the triple damage tech parameters

[old orchid]

supports are overrated, use techs and strikes only so that we have a free parameter

[trail smelt]

That’s my grass team LMAO

No support

[dark osprey]

hmmm. the tech or striker param will be taken for sure. maybe can try with strength or HP as required I guess

[stray cipher]

Defense ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

[weak sleet]

Can the special stadium be off-typed?

[zealous karma]

Ye

[weak sleet]

My best grass types are Brendan and SS Lyra.

Do we have a list of the new set of points we want to run?

Kinda like the one in the pins for 2k

[spring fable]

how do i see the info for the grass weak only?

im in pomatools but its showing kanto next week

[stray cipher]

You mean this?

Sorry for ping Lost

[swift swan]

ayy same, support-less grass team gang

[swift swan]

inforgraphic on the pins

for reference, the elite four members' stages are the same as their regular CS ones so you can check their respective grass-weak stages on pomatools and it'll be the same

Cerena's stage is the only new one

[spring fable]

oh

thanks Nov!

[trail smelt]

Just realized one of the parameters is half sync eesh

[spring fable]

just realised my grass types are meh

[swift swan]

well for f2p options you've got solar beam silver, horn leech sycamore (can actually do good numbers), lodge sycamore, and gardenia

if you have brendan and ss erika, even better

[spring fable]

would thwackey do good numbers?

[trail smelt]

I’m hoping it does

[void wyvern]

Yes, lodge Gloria does good damage.

[swift swan]

she should, yes

OG Erika... can nuke I suppose

sometimes I forget she has an EX

[spring fable]

always have the option to offtype i guess

[trail smelt]

Oh huh

Forgot Erika is a tech lol

I just remembered her old Sun tank build

[swift swan]

yeesh, half sync

not sure if any of my grass units can nuke presync in a half sync parameter... I have 3/5 SS Erika now at least

[dark osprey]

I think double DPS with an EX support would work but why waste 2 good damage dealers at once

[grand trout]

Why do we know the params for the special cs but not the regular ones?

[swift swan]

not sure tbh

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Good question. Probably since it's more like an event

[halcyon sail]

Does the neo champion stadium also have 12.5k rewards

Or just 10k max

[main crow]

There's data for rewards past 10k so yes

[cosmic vortex]

So we can get extra move coin from neo champion stadium point milestones?

[swift swan]

yeah

[cosmic vortex]

Neat

[clever breach]

I wanna complete my 10k run but i when i try with this team dies against left and right

Any tips

[swift swan]

lucas... should be overkill

do you triple queue consistently?

and what parameters are you running

[clever breach]

Yeah

[swift swan]

honestly Hop is redundant there tbf

if cyrus is available you can run him with lucas

but Lucas alone should be more than enough

[clever breach]

I run the 2k pre sinc

The problem is that red is weak against a attack and hop is my tankiest support

[swift swan]

and Lucas couldn't kill presync?

did you manage to sync twice before Iris syncs? should be easy with red's sync accel

[clever breach]

I just had a timing problem that roar of time missed and the left and right pair killed me

But did my first 10 k

[swift swan]

ah

congrats!

[waxen surge]

Can anyone help out? struggling a bit on grimsley and shauntal. Trying to get my first 10k run if possible

[undone ether]

Let us see ur ground and bug rosters

[waxen surge]

Fire and ground for this week

[sand karma]

Ingo Cynthia Courtney

[waxen surge]

I’ll try and see

[sand karma]

N with Blaine and any decent support should do

[waxen surge]

I tried using this but the damage doesn’t really do much to the bisharp since they raise sp defense I believe

[sand karma]

What parameters

[waxen surge]

I’ll check rq

[sand karma]

Skyla should be first target

[waxen surge]

Oh I’ll switch her first

I just noticed that blanie wasn’t gridded for some reason aswell so maybe that’s why…

But heres skyla

[sand karma]

Blaine doesn't need grid

[waxen surge]

Oh ok

[sand karma]

?

[waxen surge]

It’s the 2k post sync

[swift swan]

postsync? I wouldn't recommend that for grimsley

if 1/5 Anni N isn't enough, I'd rather use Silver instead tbh

[waxen surge]

Oh so I should go pre?

[swift swan]

Grimsley is nasty after he syncs

gets evasion buffs and crit

also what round are you fighting grimsley on?

[waxen surge]

Round 3

[swift swan]

ah okay, keep it that way

try presync params. if 1/5 anni N doesn't work, try Silver instead

Hop/Silver/Blaine

[zealous karma]

They both died

[waxen surge]

Is ex required or anything for silver?

[keen jasper]

Does your SS Morty have Team Body-Bracing Infliction?

[zealous karma]

No lel

[swift swan]

not really

[sand karma]

They don't have the power boost so i didn't rec silver

[waxen surge]

yea tried with n but basically in the same situation

Sync is just low damage

[swift swan]

at 1/5 his sync is nothing noteworthy

Silver's always been useable pre-powerboost and EX

[waxen surge]

I’ll try silver this time

[swift swan]

try a nuke grid

use overheat if you have dauntless, sacred fire if you don't

[waxen surge]

yea somehow went worse then with n on the team…

don’t have the expansion also

Could just use the pikachus team to get a guaranteed win but idk if I’m able to do the ground type one

[swift swan]

I think it's much easier to offtype ground with pikachu

fire should be pretty doable with the units you have

is it possible if you record?

both with N and silver is possible

[waxen surge]

Yeah I’ll see

Gotta get nitro..hold up 🙃

[paper summit]

or just use youtube/streamable...

[waxen surge]

I normally get nitro anyways so its fine

Not exactly how the runs go but somewhat similar

Also should I just be using n tm right away since I’m trying to kill before the nuke?

[rotund lagoon]

How come you sync’d with N first? Skyla is EX’d so sync with her first

[waxen surge]

Yeah but I’m wasn’t getting my 2nd sync in this scenario

[rotund lagoon]

You didn’t queue two moves after tapping sync. Skyla was just standing there even tho she can queue.

She was literally standing the whole time after sync. She can one bar spam Gust.

[zealous karma]

You queued Blaine’s Sun extremely early

[rotund lagoon]

True, using it first move isn’t a wise idea.

[zealous karma]

And stopped queuing with skyla

[rotund lagoon]

That’s what I meant by her standing there lmaoo

Richu, do you think Sun should be used for Blaine’s second or third move?

@waxen surge Lemme give you a TLDR
Queue three moves at all times, and when tapping sync, immediately queue the other members’ moves.

Set sun on second or third move because field effects do not last a whole sync cycle.

Sync with Skyla first.

[waxen surge]

Yeah sorry I’m dumb…;-;

Keep thinking sync buff just meant double the damage for some reason

So should I use the pikachu team for ground

[twin flare]

?

[proud axle]

Cyrus can obliterate Iris

[twin flare]

The ground thing is their weakness, even then you shouldn't use electric on ground

[proud axle]

I think they mean their ground roster is trash so they want to Pika-nuke it instead

But they showed their Dragon roster so idk what they mean

[twin flare]

Ah, well you see i don't have Pikachu so i wouldn't know

[proud axle]

Redchu and Ashchu are both comically overpowered
Default chu shouldn't be underestimated, but I'd rather not try it offtype

[waxen surge]

Ahh I was showing the dragon roster to see if they’ll be able to clear iris stage

[proud axle]

Egg chu has a cool moveset (Thunder with Piercing Gaze) but I wouldn't try it offtype either

[rotund lagoon]

+exeffect

[frozen depot]

Each Sync Move adds a Sync Buff () to your Team, one is a 50% Damage Boost for the Team. When EXing a Sync Pair, you unlock a role specific Powerboost:
Support EX: Their first Sync Move gives your Team an additional (100% damage increase in total)
Striker EX: Their Sync Move does now hit every Opponent, but the damage is calculated as if it would hit each Opponent individually (No AoE Damage Mitigation)
Tech EX: Their Sync Move Base Power gets boosted by 1.5x

[proud axle]

Cyrus is very powerful, you can take out Iris with a team built around him

If you have Lillie(Clefairy), you can have her snd Skyla(Swanna) with Cyrus. That should do the trick.

Lillie fixes his hitrate with X Acc All, and her TM guarantees he gets his first crit right away so Crit Focus 2 can get rolling

She also has Group Dragon Guard so Iris' Outrage will deal less damage to the team

[waxen surge]

I just used skyla on the last stage

I can do this tho

[proud axle]

RIP. Iris' offense is pure phys, so I was hoping the speed+def would be good here

I didn't have Latios until last night so I don't know him very well. I wonder if his Freebies and Cyrus' own speed are enough for your gauge needs

[waxen surge]

Yeah hopefully it should do fine

[proud axle]

If Roxanne is still available, you can have her in Brendan's slot (still has Speed and Def)

[waxen surge]

Plus the heals

[paper summit]

you are not gonna replace the better support...

[proud axle]

Yeah, try it with Brendan first if you don't need him for the Ground stage

[paper summit]

what supports do you have available?

[proud axle]

I beg to differ, I think Lillie is better for this very specific circumstance

[paper summit]

you are acting like Iris will be a giant damage issue, she isn't

[proud axle]

Not even that

[proud axle]

Acc and sure crit

[waxen surge]

I would bring blue but used him already

[proud axle]

Brendan only gives +1 crit, leaving the possibility that (unboosted here) Cyrus will fail to crit on the first one or two Spatial Rends. And I haaaaate that.

[paper summit]

why do you even want accuracy...

Spacial Rend is 100 with grid

and you are not gonna be using Hydro Pump on a dragon stage

in this case speed is actually not necessary since this is an unboosted Cyrus, so no Ramming Speed

[proud axle]

Okay new plan
Cyrus Ingo Zinnia

[waxen surge]

Also cyrus gets +2 crit as long has he lands at least 1 crit alone

[proud axle]

I'm not talking about Ramming Speed, I'm talking about gauge. Cyrus' innate speed is not very high, and he's the only one with buffs

[proud axle]

Lillie forces this to happen.

But screw all of that, Ingo allows you to run dual Cyrus+Zinnia

Should absolutely crush the stage

Zinnia loves weather-- any weather. And Ingo gives a complete buffset plus Speed and freebies

Ingo also gives +2 crit with TM so he's also better at forcing the first crit than Brendan

Only reason not to run Ingo here is if you were going to use him with, like, Cynthia... on the Ground... Stage...

Hunh, I see Gastrodon, so you do have Garchomp

Why'd you need to use the Pikachus for it, then...? Ah well, if you do that, then you can use Ingo for the dragons against Iris

[waxen surge]

Close just used the potion too early on Cyrus

[zealous karma]

Surpised anyone died lel

[mellow linden]

I realize that Water weak stages on 2.5k will need some trial-and-error to find parameters if I want to use Greninjas + Nessa

Since I can’t use the damage category one

[west loom]

Quick question. For any given CS what all do you upgrade going in? Do you hit lvl 125 and stop? Do you sync grid everyone? What would yall say is a good stopping point

[rotund lagoon]

120-125 is fine in terms of level.

And are you wondering about Hard Mode?

[west loom]

For Hard Mode

[rotund lagoon]

Hard Mode should not be that bad, and you need to build your resources anyway.

Plus if any are 1/5, don’t worry about gridding anyway

[west loom]

Ok so just focus on levels and team composition

[rotund lagoon]

Yep since you’re basically just starting CS

Oh did you do Rosa’s bingo btw?

[west loom]

Ok great. I have not done the Rosa Bingo yet. But since the next CS is grass weaknesses i should do that

Oh the only thing i have left for that bingo is to get to trainer level 35

[rotund lagoon]

No problem. Rosa is a Support tho, do not worry about using her on Grass teams only.

[west loom]

Fair fair. Is she any good?

[rotund lagoon]

She’s decent, yes. Her EX is free anyway, so it wouldn’t hurt to use her for your roster.

[west loom]

Yep. Free never hurts

[full mesa]

What about us? The f2p players? Can we enjoy them?

[full mesa]

Niche. Can take a couple hits, buffs spa and has gauge control. Free ex too meaning she can work with a slow-ish team on pre Sync

[tired sleet]

Most F2P players have way more than

[proud axle]

120 is plenty
Some sync pairs have important stuff even in their 1/5 grids but not everyone does
Many pairs are very (or even fully) functional with partial grids or even empty grids

Recognizing which orb investments best improve your odds of success, is part of the process to gitting gud

Fortunately, the stakes are lower in Hard mode. You can make a few mistakes, learn from them, and still come out peachy

[waxen surge]

Forgot to update earlier but decided to just go for the 9.5k since I mainly cared for the spirits. The 10k was slightly difficult just because its rng with Cyrus for some reason

[trail smelt]

Oh that’s a shame. What was the RNG that caused you grief?

[stray cipher]

Crit rng I wanna bet

[proud axle]

Lillie gives surecrit, which should bring Cyrus (with Crit Focus 2) to guaranteed crits from the get-go

[stray cipher]

What’s the issue

[proud axle]

My guess might be Freebie/gauge RNG, in which case... maybe don't use Brendan

[stray cipher]

Wait which lillie

[proud axle]

That's Clefairy

[stray cipher]

There is two normal outfits

Ahh got it

[proud axle]

That is a good point

[stray cipher]

Then you should be fine but speed is an issue

[proud axle]

But I'm 99% sure I specified Clefairy while recommending the team

So if they put Comfey in, it's their own fault

[stray cipher]

Lol

What interests me is that only latios is alive

I’m willing to bet it’s a pre-sync issue

After betting the wrong thing already

[trail smelt]

Lol

[proud axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009554906568462476/1091045312103206932/IMG_8355.png

[trail smelt]

Wait is Iris mostly physical?

[stray cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-day-gif-23819253

[proud axle]

Looks like the enemy has no sync buff

[stray cipher]

Hmm

How do you die then

[proud axle]

Yeah. But they used Skyla on a previous round

She'd be perfect here but alas

[trail smelt]

Ah shame

[stray cipher]

Defenses need up

[trail smelt]

What other free options are there…

[proud axle]

I suggested Roxanne in Brendan's place next, since she brings both Speed and Def-- and Lillie can tank instead

[trail smelt]

BP Surge or BP Morty?

[stray cipher]

Sp def doesn’t help if it’s physical

[proud axle]

I don't know if they tried her tho

[stray cipher]

Lemme check my roster

Hop?

Instead of Brendan

Cause instant crit so remove lillie and replace someone else

Plus potions

Plus defense

Plus easy move gauges

But then you lose sp def drops

[proud axle]

Sod the spdef drops tbh

[stray cipher]

Bp morty is probably better

Astonish flinch helps avoid three target attacks

[proud axle]

I saw 2/5 Leaf/Eevee on their roster

[stray cipher]

So Cyrus doesn’t sue

2/5 leaf is ok ig

But I don’t know if she gets staggering

[proud axle]

Potions, speed, defense. I forget if 2/5 has Potion MPR or Staggering tho

[stray cipher]

And there is no point syncing with her unless ex

Which is like the whole point of leaf

Can you send me their roster

[proud axle]

Oh daaaang, both

[stray cipher]

Damn but it’s only 30%

[proud axle]

Looks like Brendan's EX judging by the 3 stacks of Sync Buff and the Mega evo

Can't tell if he has more than 1/5 tho

But yeah seriously I wouldn't use Brendan for this fight

Just because he's Dragon type and limited... doesn't necessarily make him the best guy for the job

Faced with screws that need unscrewing, I'd rather have a rusty screwdriver than Excalibur

[stray cipher]

@proud axle send me their roster

[proud axle]

Their Supports are here (We know Skyla and SSBlue were used up already; I suggested Ingo but they chose not to use him either so idk)

[stray cipher]

So 1/5 Brendan

[proud axle]

Sonia is looking good (Def and Potions and speed and accel) but I don't know whether she's available either

[stray cipher]

I’m thinking hop and Sonia

May be overkill

[proud axle]

I'd use Lillie and Sonia

[stray cipher]

But idk if hop can get enough mpr to max def

[magic crown]

Is this supposed to be hard 💀

[stray cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/galaxy-galaxy-brain-perndorfer-meme-uw-u-gif-26321098

Plus infinite potions btw

[proud axle]

12.5k? The biggest new bonus objective is "offtype deals -80% dmg" so some of us would have to compensate with more parameters, or dig deeper into our rosters for weaker on-type pairs

[stray cipher]

So Cyrus can get some after tm and tanking stuff

[magic crown]

So they went you to off type for this stadium I'm sorry if I'm being slow rn but I'm just really confused

[stray cipher]

12.5k is all about your box btw

[proud axle]

12.5k score cap

[stray cipher]

You need to on type but some people can’t do that

[magic crown]

Ok

[proud axle]

More bonus parameters to help you reach 12.5k

[stray cipher]

Like I don’t have a fairy roster

Before I got Diantha this month but still

[proud axle]

One of the new bonus parameters is "Offtype deals -80% damage"

[stray cipher]

Which technically means you have to do 5 of their health bars

[proud axle]

All five fights in Pasio CS have the same weakpoint, so... not everyone is going to have enough Grass for that

[stray cipher]

Or my math is off

[proud axle]

Meaning they need to either pick +300 more in other parameters (and we're running low on "easy" params as it is) or risk running out of nonshitty Grass attackers

Serena's Satisfied Snarl gimmick is... kind of hilarious though

[stray cipher]

Fax

[proud axle]

Brendan demands Dauntless by default, Gardenia has either that or grids for Sunny Disposition, Silver already demands Dauntless for Overheat but could use it for Solarbeam, Sycamore(Xerneas) can grid for Impervious (and has a phys Grass attack anyway), and Sycamore(Bulbasaur) has Impervious innate

It's... actually harder to find a Grass attacker who cares about Satisfied Snarl than one who does

So, like... SSLeaf I guess?? If you don't use her on one of the three Toxic-Stall-Friendly fights???

Victor is phys, Lodge Gloria is phys, Ramos is phys, SSErika is phys, Selene is phys, Mallow is phys, Striker Dawn is phys...

So that leaves... what, SSLyra if you use her sync?

Hol up, I forgot SC Sonia.

(checks)

...who is phys

[rotund lagoon]

Physical grass damage dealers?

[stray cipher]

My teams

Also I heard you need to use special moves or smth

[proud axle]

"I forgot Sonia, and she... is also phys"

[rotund lagoon]

Want a list?

[proud axle]

Scroll up one line

[rotund lagoon]

How come Hilbert is with Lodge Sycamore?

[proud axle]

I am mocking Neo Champ Serena's choice of gimmick (Satisfied Snarl 9)

There are like three Grass pairs who give a damn about Satisfied Snarl

...Maybe two. Or one, if you don't sync with SSLyra

[rotund lagoon]

Wouldn’t Cerena work with Lodge Sycamore in that case then?

Especially for Master passive?

[old orchid]

[rotund lagoon]

Uh oh, Gakon has been summoned

[proud axle]

Bruh I forget costumes/seasonals exist most of the time

[rotund lagoon]

Also hollup……..I think Lodge Sycamore would want Poison help.

[proud axle]

Bitter psychic backlash after getting exactly one seasonal and it was Mimikyu

[rotund lagoon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855438548684374045/1091103308153893005/image0.jpg

These are my teams for reference

[stray cipher]

I can switch them

I’m not very good at crafting multiple same type teams

[trail smelt]

Making 5 monograss teams was uh

An experience LMAO

[rotund lagoon]

Why monotype?

[rotund lagoon]

I’m honestly reconsidering that tho cause of Poison.

[old orchid]

Pick 5 grass dmg dealers, build teams around them. Whats the problem?

[stray cipher]

I don’t know how tf leaf sycamore and Selene work

Btw leaf is 3/5 and Selene is 4/5

[rotund lagoon]

Are those the only grass damage dealers you have btw?

[stray cipher]

Idk if leaf would work cause GAUGE

[trail smelt]

I wanted to see if I could LMAO

[stray cipher]

LMAO

[trail smelt]

Here’s my teams

Let me know if y’all see any glaring holes

For the life of me I have no idea who I want to use for Round 4 with half sync lol

[stray cipher]

Wha wha where is the tank in the Erika team

[trail smelt]

Erika

[old orchid]

Erika

[stray cipher]

o

[old orchid]

She is a really good tank under sun

[stray cipher]

She can tank?

Dang

[trail smelt]

Well not sure if she still holds up nowadays but she was a great sun tank back in the day

She just wouldn’t die lol

[stray cipher]

Lol

[proud axle]

Regular Erika has more raw bulk than a same-level Misty. It's eye-opening.

Anyway here's my plan

R1 reflect vs Bruno, phys vs phys
R2 status amp vs Lorelei, Toxic stall
R3 special amp vs Bertha, lol no actual Grass types
R4 half sync countdown (just Ash nuke it on turn 3)
Champion: UNLEASH THE POWER OF THE SUN (again)

[trail smelt]

I really should EX SS Erika one of these days. God knows she’s great

[swift swan]

same, I really should EX her now that mine's 3/5

[paper summit]

fake Kanto fan, smh

[rotund lagoon]

Bruh I EX’d mine even tho she’s 2/5

[paper summit]

I revised my teams and made some changes, swapped some people around to reduce some redundancy of buffs and to give a chance to Solar Beam shenanigans

I'll EX Brendan and maybe Selene next week

[trail smelt]

More Sun-nanigans is always good

[stray cipher]

Ooh I’m stealing Maxie team

[tired sleet]

Isn’t it a bit early to plan the teams

[paper summit]

I mean, yes, but who cares?

[marsh crater]

Can i just leech horn all the way?

[proud axle]

You probably could tbh

Throw Hop in with Sycamore

[marsh crater]

Sycamore and hop huh? Ok

Thats one down. 4 more

[proud axle]

Bruno and Serena teams can take 3x dmg to Striker without being affected; Bertha and Grimsley teams can take 3x dmg to Tech without being affected either. Noice.

[zealous karma]

You don’t have to on type the event brw

Btw

[proud axle]

300pts is 300pts

But yes I'm going to Ash-nuke one of the fights

Because I was sick of thinking.

[paper summit]

this, it's not any different to a regular CS, so you can off type any battle

[proud axle]

When does it begin, again?

[paper summit]

I went full grass damage dealers just because I can

[marsh crater]

1. Horn leech sycamore
   2.solar beam hooh silver
2. Solar Blade ss erika
3. Maybe Chop Bea
4. Frog duo

[bright furnace]

Full grass damage dealers + theme

[proud axle]

Frog duo vs frog? I guess it could work if you use them in Dark mode...

[marsh crater]

Dark mode? No no im gonna fight with water shuriken

[tired sleet]

Giving them rain seems like a bad idea

[proud axle]

Yeah giving them rain will probably get you turbomurdered

[marsh crater]

Dont need rain to be honest

[proud axle]

Hope you dont need SpA buffs either

Because their entire team has Satisfied Snarl 9

[marsh crater]

Satisfied snarl do what?

[proud axle]

Lower your SpAtk

Every time they hit

[marsh crater]

Oh dark mode then

[proud axle]

Teamwide via Ripple Effect

[marsh crater]

Demn

[paper summit]

you'd rather swap 4 and 5

[proud axle]

Ye, Dark is much more sensible here

[marsh crater]

Water shuriken then nuke with dark mode

[paper summit]

use frogs for 4, then fighting off type on 5

or SS Erika, either option should be ok

[marsh crater]

They snarl me. I water shuriken them.

Wait which mode ccalem have for impervious?

[paper summit]

hmm, yeah, guess that also works

[tired sleet]

Dark

[proud axle]

Dark

Water mode has the status immunity

[tired sleet]

I only know that since i noticed he’s immune to entry debuffs

[proud axle]

So like there are multiple reasons to stay Dark mode

[marsh crater]

Yeah dark mode will be nice

And cerena brutal swing also lower accuracy

[proud axle]

Also the opposite of Dark Mode is Light Mode and my eyyyyyeeessss

[tired sleet]

Not like it’ll do anything

[marsh crater]

I guess i wont have problem with cs

Oh wait can go offtype with my dragon team too

CBede, dialga, palkia

[proud axle]

Wonder if someone's going to absolutely defy the types and offtype all five fights, with the -80% penalty parameter

They might still win, but it would be funny

[marsh crater]

I might do it.

[civic trellis]

Is the bruno in the pasio stadium johto bruno?

[paper summit]

yes

[proud axle]

Must be, since otherwise you can't have grass-weakness on both Lorelei and Bruno in Kanto

[paper summit]

all of them are their respective grass weak stage

barring Serena for obvious reasons

[marsh crater]

Dragon off type. Cbede dialga palkia
Rock offtype Kiawe, roark, ss diantha
Flying off type A.Steven, sycamore
Frog duo
Fighting off type chop bea skyla
Psychic off type ss brendan gio bianca

[proud axle]

I'm a little glad Roark is getting so much play but it's kind of the end of an era to see him and Diantha completely displacing Olivia for Rock

[swift swan]

I'm a Kantrio fan, idc about the rest of the Kanto cast

[civic trellis]

Same, I have a long list tho

Well currently just bea kiawe and any limited units I plan to use but I also want the holo foils and music keys so im planning to EX units with them

[proud axle]

I didn't actually EX SSErika for the sync power
I EXed her because her base stats are disturbingly low (she relies on multipliers for her damage). Meaning the flat +40 to Atk is more noticeable on her than most

[dark osprey]

lol same here.

hardly sync with her still

[woeful wave]

I think off type is the way

Welp, can't brain any team for the CS now.

[proud axle]

Silver, Sycamore, Gardenia, Brendan, SSErika, Selene... You might actually be able to on-type all five fights. Though you could toxic-stall Round 2 instead.

[woeful wave]

With ball guy?

[proud axle]

Lorelei, Bruno, and Grimsley have Lessen Poison 8 instead of 9

[woeful wave]

It time for the ball to roll out

[proud axle]

He doesn't have Toxic. You could get BP Erika or bring Lucy in

...Does Ball Guy have Toxic?

[cinder summit]

Toxic Chance 4

Has a chance (50%) of leaving the target poisoned when a move targeting that opponent is successful.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Ball Guy & Amoonguss
Karen & Houndoom

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[proud axle]

That is... Not Toxic

[old orchid]

This is the only way to inflict poison for him

[proud axle]

Wow (non)toxic

I like the idea of him continually replenishing his Clear Smog but that's not what this was about

Round 2 amplifies the effectiveness of status conditions such as Toxic, and three of the Elite Four here are "weak against" Poison/Toxic status

[woeful wave]

Ya I got BP tickets to spend now hahahah

[proud axle]

So a toxic stall is a very easy 2.5k if you're out of on-types

[proud axle]

I'd just grid Lucy instead unless you really need it to be an actual Grass type

Lucy can get 100% Toxic inflict rate via Hostile Environment 1 in her grid

[woeful wave]

Don't think so? I can grid lucy

I have lots of orbs now

I probably will C Marnie 1 of the match just because I really like her atk

I can play with the weather now since I have anni raihan flygon.

Team 16 to 20. Rough draft for now

[manic kiln]

made some mistakes with my previous schedule (started with Kanto but the 1st cycle should start with johto when MM was added)
we still have a pattern after all, they reset the pattern when a new region is released
if they don't plan to release galar or paldea and only do them through events in the next few months then cycle 8 should be locked
alola is definitely coming in May to complete cycle 7
also expect 15k or Level 2 in summer 2024 whenever we're back to kanto

also can predict some VA and up coming sync pairs but that's a reach

[swift swan]

Interesting

[grim bison]

Finally got my grass teams done

[trail smelt]

Striker/nuke Dawn?

[proud axle]

...SSLeaf with only +1 crit?

[keen jasper]

Relax, it's still on April 11

[zealous karma]

I imagine SSleaf is there to apply poison for LSyca

[stray cipher]

lUcK

[proud axle]

They'd rather build for Sycamore's Leaf Storm than for SSLeaf's Frenzy Plant?

[swift swan]

let's be real, she requires total offensive babysitting

she wants first sync for the stats, but sycamore wants first sync to buff her

[stray cipher]

Tbf it’s probably 1/5 leaf

[swift swan]

yeah and then there's that, too. of course you can't really go wrong with a strong 4-bar move, but she demands full offensive support

[sick inlet]

Did we get info on the extra 2.5k rewards?

[main crow]

10 and 15

[sick inlet]

🫡

[frosty axle]

which is not even worth it especially for F2P

[zealous karma]

I can’t wait for 15 tickets Swag

[umbral crow]

its valuable if its hard

[zealous karma]

12.5K isn’t difficult lel

Or whatever 2.5K x5 adds up to idk

[umbral crow]

im brookee

[frosty axle]

not hard but pointless for useless rewards, not even bp points or a coin

[zealous karma]

I need the PU tickets all the time lel I really needed more output of them

[swift swan]

More EX materials I suppose

[bright furnace]

heck 15k is manageable for you

[onyx ice]

What are the rewards for 12.5k?

[zealous karma]

It’s hard 80% of the time

[onyx ice]

12.5k shouldn't be that hard with the new extra parameters

[swift swan]

and

[old orchid]

Addition of is always welcomed

[swift swan]

[proud axle]

How many of each?

[swift swan]

[proud axle]

Looks like... An additional 15 and 10 ?

Unless they quietly added some in the lower tiers too

I just compared them against the current CSMM rewards and there are no new rewards in the lower tiers

So 15 and 10, then. Thank you

[bright furnace]

Think that’s 105 a week for 12.5k if my maths are correct

[trail smelt]

Aye

[onyx ice]

I'll gladly take any , don't care much about

[grand trout]

What params are y'all excited for

Mine is standard damage reduction 8

[keen jasper]

Max HP +8

[grand trout]

A stall person?

[keen jasper]

I already mentioned it a few times, I can fully set up my nuke without the worry of killing mid

[grand trout]

Apologies but i just come and go here lol

But why would you want that

[keen jasper]

[grand trout]

No, really

[paper summit]

contrary to popular belief, not everyone likes easy battles

[grand trout]

Oh i don't think it's that way

I just thought the answer would be is that he's aiming for max damage or something

Or maybe he's trying to do a setup?

But if the reason is sheer challenge it's valud too

[keen jasper]

That's exactly it

[paper summit]

some units are just too strong, so sometimes you don't get to use their kits all that much because the enemies just die too quickly

big numbers dopamine is funny

[keen jasper]

Would be satisfying to kill all enemies with Silver's sync with full HP parameters

[grand trout]

Speaking of

Is stall still possible in 12.5k

[keen jasper]

Sure, just use all 3 of the mitigation parameters

[dark osprey]

If 2k was possible, it's slightly easier I think with 2.5k

On type plus zone would be 450 points right

And then there's special and physical damage

[grand trout]

By mitigation you mean the damage reduction ones?

[dark osprey]

And also max HP 8

[keen jasper]

Yeah

[grand trout]

I stopped playing stall when i can't make aaron succumb to poison despite my best efforts

Also lorelei

[dark osprey]

So it's much easier stalling 2.5k than previous 2K

[grand trout]

FUCK lorelei and her sync cure

[keen jasper]

Just use the 2k stalling parameters along with the 3 damage mitigations

[keen jasper]

I know a move that fits what you said, and it's from FF

[grand trout]

Ff?

[keen jasper]

Final Fantasy

[dark osprey]

So poison stalling 2.5K seems easier than previous 1.5K poison stall?

[main crow]

The damage reductions and 3x against specific role are ones I can't wait to cheese

[grand trout]

what does cheese mean in this context

[main crow]

Steamroll the battle basically

[grand trout]

Ah

[versed meteor]

Do y'all think the +8 health parameter would be better than the +6 strength?

[stray cipher]

Honestly no

You may not get to kill opponent before second sync

And second sync is ohko

[tired sleet]

The whole point of strength is that it adds not too much bulk or attack power

[versed meteor]

Are you sure

Those shits hit like trucks with their sync

I mean i rarely do stages without some sort of defense maxing

And centre will still usually take at least 350 damage on their sync

[tired sleet]

They won’t get a chance to sync unless you’re using awful pairs or HP/def params

[versed meteor]

I mean +6 defense or +6 special defense for me

[versed meteor]

I usually use post sync parameters

[tired sleet]

I suppose everyone i see who uses strength +12 usually uses great units who can pre sync

[versed meteor]

Well isn't that the optimal parameters if i want to 2k

[tired sleet]

There are no optimal params

Everyone has their own choice

[stray cipher]

I totally don’t use these

[keen silo]

I would never use ally hp V 5

[paper summit]

I use it all the time if SS Morty is in the team

or rather with any team able to heal decently quick

[frosty axle]

I use it a lot now since it got fixed

[trail smelt]

It what now

Wasn’t it ally healing down half that was fixed?

[paper summit]

yes

half ally hp is the same as always

[frosty axle]

only affects potions now instead of passives and gradual healing from my tests

before first aid 4 only did 20% instead

[trail smelt]

Well yes, but they were talking about half ally HP

[proud axle]

Ally Healing Down 5: I use it all the time
Ally Starting HP Down 5: This is kind of terrifying

[old orchid]

[bright furnace]

I remember when I was new, a friend who also plays the game said when I do 1.5k clears (back in the day!) I would use starting HP down 5

To this day I have never used it lol

[zealous karma]

Me either

Even tho for CCalem it’s free points

[bright furnace]

I know Zinfogel does it from watching the videos but it’s never been my style to pay with half Hp

[zealous karma]

I haven’t seen a. Video of his in like a year lel

[woeful wave]

So the next CS is the 'new' region to clear 18 types for me

[proud axle]

Ye

But it's Kanto

So it's the easiest one

Literal years of powercreep have happened between that and now

[woeful wave]

Hahaha. Won't they still be strong with 2.5k each?

[proud axle]

No.

Also your first week literally can't have the 2.5k

[old orchid]

If you can beat Neo Champion special events, Kanto is even easier

Most of Kanto hard parts come from Critical Shield on Lorelei

[proud axle]

2.5k isn't even that much harder than 2k thanks to the new score options

2k itself is likely a lot easier in fact

[dark osprey]

2.5K can be officially easier than old 2K now since poison stall has become easier I guess

Much easier that too

[woeful wave]

Didn't build poison stall team yet

[dark osprey]

Ah. They would be very useful for 2.5K easy if on type is a problem

[full mesa]

Back to basics I see

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Weirdly it will be easier than 1.5k poison stall

In most cases

[woeful wave]

What is the team for poison stall?

[dark osprey]

Ideally a bad poison applicator, an attack debuffer and a defense buffer

In the most ideal case would have a bad poison plus trap and a tank healer as well with the defense buffing

Very good example would be Lucy, Janine and Mortymagius

Alternates for Lucy would be BP Erika

Or other bad poisoners

Debuffer could be even tech Nidoqueen, ghetsis for both attacks, can be also focused on special or physical attacks like Viola, darach, MR, lodge dawn etc.

Tank could be regular leaf, Skyla for physical, Misty for special etc.

There would be overlapping roles which is good

[woeful wave]

Hmm

[proud axle]

Toxic applicators include Koga (if you're desperate), BP Janine (also if you're desperate), Lucy (can grid for 100% success), BP Erika, SS Leaf (the best at Toxic Stall due to her Mega evo skillset)

[keen jasper]

And normal Janine?

[tired sleet]

That’s only normal poison

[keen jasper]

I see

[paper summit]

Janine should definitely be considered more for debuffing than poison, not that you can't stall with regular poison but it'll take longer of course

[proud axle]

You don't want normal Janine inflicting Poison in a stall comp for that reason

I don't think I even wanna know how long it would take to win a stall fight with regular poison and Lessen 8

[dark osprey]

If it's poison weak, you could stall with regular poison too

[proud axle]

That's usually Lessen 7

[dark osprey]

Yeah

[proud axle]

It probably won't work for fights with Lessen 9, which is... most of them. And that's unfortunately still relevant to the original topic of "toxic stall if you can't ontype the fight"

[paper summit]

I mean, if a stage is poison weak, you may as well just clear with an actual damaging poison team

no reason to drag it more than necessary by stalling...

[proud axle]

Koga's way better at straightup vaporizing an enemy than at toxic stall

[dark osprey]

Maybe if their koga is not 3/5

[proud axle]

If you're using Koga for his sync nuke, then it's okay for regular Janine (if she's present) to inflict regular Poison

[dark osprey]

Oh yeah. The family team

With BP Janine EX it's going to be even better

[proud axle]

All the BP and Lodge alts got EX, I think... except the rainbow BP pairs since those aren't actually alts, huh

[dark osprey]

Oh yeah. No MC EX makes it slightly worrying

[proud axle]

I'm like 80% sure the "we're adding EX without colorswap to the game" is for the MC to gain EX with Solgaleo for the Alola villain arc

...It is worrying if Defaultchu and Torchic and the BP Legendaries are going to get EX alongside...

[swift swan]

worrying? I think it's nice. Torchic getting EX would be awesome

[dark osprey]

Too many choices to EX now 😔

Dj Khaled situation

Still not sure how to do the BP and lodge ones

[civic trellis]

At this rate I dont think ill be able to EX pairs for the holo foil or music key

Too many pairs I want to EX and maybe some BP ones

[dark osprey]

Luxuries

For the special champion stadiums, the bulks of the harder ones like Bertha have been reduced right?

[paper summit]

no

they all happen to have the same bulk, Bertha is "hard" due to the passives linked to sandstorm if you don't override it

[dark osprey]

Oh crap. So that means if this week's Grimsley were to come to a possible fire weak one, he'd have the raised bulk

[paper summit]

yeah, overall fire weak stages in all CS regions are on the bulkier side

[spring fable]

Are these sufficient for me to complete the grass weak only week?

[old orchid]

you already can make 5 ontype teams with SS Erika, Brendan, Selene, LSycamore and LGlroria

your Rosa tho

[dark osprey]

Can put in a solar beam silver in too if needed

And there's always poison stall and off-types if needed

[spring fable]

true

the params for points still applies right?

[swift swan]

Should be, yeah

[spring fable]

damn

i wanna aim for 12.5k with those

[onyx ice]

Does the special champion stadium have some sort of offtype protection?

[dark osprey]

Guess not

Just the new parameters seem like it

[onyx ice]

How much is the wonderguard parameter? 300?

Hp 8 is interesting, cuz gives less hp than 6 + 2 for the same points

And it's free points for toxic stall

[dark osprey]

Wonder guard meaning on type? Yeah 300

[onyx ice]

Does on type stadium have master mode?

[dark osprey]

Yes

For toxic stall it seems it would be more so easier than 1.5k now

[onyx ice]

Yes the free points are more than 500

[dark osprey]

Not just 500 but 1000

On type 300, HP 400, the special and physical moves 200

Then there's zone which is 150

Can even take the striker damage one for another 50

[onyx ice]

Striker/tech damage may be interesting for endurance + power reserves shenanigans

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Endurance pairs get some more value

[onyx ice]

Gladion definitely can shine in the on type stadium unless the type is over saturated

[dark osprey]

Even support damage would be useful for them

Honestly gladion kinda remains the same

[onyx ice]

I mean the problem of gladion is that there are always better alrenatives

But if you need 5 teams of the same type chances are that the alternatives gets exhausted

[dark osprey]

For the special champion stadium, you can still offtype just like the regular champion stadium

That 300 points is the difference in both tbh

Gladion does seem to gain that

[onyx ice]

Yes but it you want to take the 300 on type, gladion may be an option

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Always is

[onyx ice]

Plus there are some types that have very few options

[trail smelt]

I’m not looking forward to Fairy with my roster

What’s the next type that has the most options btw?

Water?

I think it has more than fire which is my guess for third

[onyx ice]

Water probably has the most options

[dark osprey]

Yeah. As before with gladion, the offtype options were better than him. Some of them will fall off based on the extra 300 points but some will still be better I guess

And it's going to be a while until they get to the weird types I think

Fire too maybe

[trail smelt]

Normal weak Champion Stadium event last LMAO

[dark osprey]

Haha. Need to get a new passive for that

[proud axle]

If it's going to be led by a Neo Champ, then we're looking at Greninja's weakpoints and the Galar birds' weakpoints so far.

Greninja... Water and Dark. So its weakpoints are Grass, Electric, Fighting, Bug, and Fairy?

I don't know the Galar birds very well so I can't guess theirs

Wonder who the next Neo Champs will be, and what mons they'll have.

Something weak to Fire might make for an amusing coincidence. Pokédex #1 is Bulbasaur, the grass-type; after Ivysaur and Venusaur is Charmander, the fire-type

[swift swan]

Oh that'd be interesting

[proud axle]

It's an inversion of the old champion starter situation, yeah

[swift swan]

All fire-weak CS?

[proud axle]

We face a protag with the water type so we are the rival with the grass type

Double inverted if Galar's rival neochamps are next

[swift swan]

[onyx ice]

Is our cerena weak to grass too?

[proud axle]

Lemme login and check

[onyx ice]

I guess they will keep the original weaknesses of the pairs

Champion Bede is definitely weak to ghost

Steven Holmes may definitely help gladion for types that lack great physical options (mainly psychic)

[swift swan]

Nope, she's weak to electric

[proud axle]

I got super sidetracked with the April fool's day metronome event

But ye, electric

DeNA used to actually insist that enemy versions of playable pairs, would have the same weakpoint. I'm not sure how many players noticed/cared, and they eventually just sort of shrugged snd stopped.

[woeful wave]

So many pairs I kinda want XD

[trail smelt]

I remember being angry when I first played Pokemas and Barry EX fight was weak to grass haha

I thought they were gonna stick strictly to their dual typings but nope

[wide adder]

Is this persons math accurate on ticket amount? If so that means I can ex a unit a week for a bit to catch up on exs I really want to do at least for a couple weeks

Got over a hundred raw

[trail smelt]

Yes it’s accurate

We currently only get 95 tickets a week with 10k points. The additional rewards up to 12,500k gives us an additional 10 tickets

[wide adder]

I thought we are getting 15 more with the updated rewards?

Wouldn’t it be 110 then?

Cause I thought it’s 15 tickets 10 spirits

Also how many’s the weekly spirits now?

[stray cipher]

That’s right

[trail smelt]

Oh sorry I got it backwards LMAO

[civic trellis]

90 60 for 10k and 105 70 for 12.5k iirc

[dark osprey]

Still not enough for them BP lodge EXs

[woeful wave]

That means to trade. Need 2 week run?

For 10 ticket

[sand karma]

They should've made the pup tix 115

Thanks for reminding gladion is always an option

[bright furnace]

Depends if you’re comfortable with it, but I typically do 5 and 15 nowadays (I keep a 100 minimum at all times tho)

[hearty lynx]

how many stats decrease ranks do you get in round 2 when a pair faints

[mellow linden]

1 for each of the 5 main stats

[hearty lynx]

ah

[wide adder]

2 more resets till the next CS right?

[wide adder]

noticed pomatools doesnt have the new parameters yet, was going to try to plan out my new parameters

hard to do so without some visual idea of how many points im at so far though

[spring fable]

Will there be any sentry / wise entry?

[swift swan]

new MM params are on pins

I don't think there are any x2 entries

it would've been fun though, basically a free option

[zealous karma]

There’s the special reduction 8 which is like wise entry x8 and standard reduction x8 good for CMarnie

[swift swan]

oh right, we have those

standard is the one for ontyping right

[wide adder]

yeah, standard means offtype damage does less

[spring fable]

Do I have to clear special pasio on hard mode before I can try MM?

[swift swan]

not sure about that. It's more likely that the Master Mode will be immediately available

we'll have to see later though

[proud axle]

It's not like we can do the 18-type medal across two resets when it won't reset

[wide adder]

itd be a bit weird if we have to do hard mode first. especially since thatd make us do 18 different typed stadiums before we can do master mode on any of them

so i dont think theyre doing it like standard stadium

esp since its as a special event, not a permanent 2nd stadium

[spring fable]

That’s true

[keen jasper]

Just one more day

[swift swan]

[main crow]

https://tenor.com/view/dawn-majora-finalday-gif-9607331

[hearty lynx]

are the new parameters added next week?

[old orchid]

yes

[wide adder]

https://tenor.com/view/ready-im-ready-running-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4184916

[trail smelt]

Can we save parameters yet?

[wide adder]

Basically me waiting for the cs reset

[wide adder]

Pretty sure dev letter says next month

[timid turtle]

I think you're quite adora-ball, too!

[wide adder]

For saving

[trail smelt]

Oh ok

[wide adder]

Just checked

Next months update aka this months

So at end of this month the feature should arrive

They also repeat the subject in future updates

As further clarification on when it’s coming

[silent oxide]

May datamine update to make it simpler

[onyx ice]

Saving parameters for cs would be pretty nice

However the new parameters may need more flexibility

Physical or special reduction may be free points for most comps

[dark osprey]

Hopefully there will be at least 3 presets

[grand trout]

Options? Like params?

[civic trellis]

The preset thing isnt this month? I thought we’d be getting it this upcoming reset w 12.5k

[formal musk]

wtf i still have to wait one more month for that

nice to know it finally exist tho

[devout sluice]

Welp, guess I’m gonna be using the parameter sheet still until the update.

[marsh crater]

Dawn torterra or lodge dawn?

[old orchid]

On which stage?

They do different things

[marsh crater]

Wait the special cs is not tomorrow? The all grass weak?

[old orchid]

Check #1012256199128915968 for dates

The first 12.5k CS is tomorrow

[marsh crater]

Ah i see. Its still unova?

[old orchid]

Kanto

The easiest CS

[marsh crater]

Wait its new month. Oh kanto

Yes easy ticket and spirit

[mellow linden]

Honestly, probably the best region to introduce 12.5k with. Lets people warm up for the harder regions

[marsh crater]

Need to unlock lodge pair ex

I have lots of pair to ex

[manic kiln]

well they also introduced 10k with Kanto

[blazing narwhal]

Whats up with grimsley seems way more bulky than the rest

[swift swan]

fire weak stages tend to be bulky in general

[blazing narwhal]

Well there goes my 2v3 clears

[fiery canopy]

i need the month to refresh already im so bored with thr game rn x_x

[keen jasper]

I wonder if 12.5k pts. MM will interest you

[fiery canopy]

wuts mm stand for

[keen jasper]

Master Mode

[fiery canopy]

ohh
yeah idk if i can do that lol

i cant do master mode anyway rn i havent completed the medal

[swift swan]

there's always our good neighbor #1012311116778586182 too if you're interested

but it's the most end-game mode we have yet

I guess newer players can find the game boring because they're limited by their number of invested pairs huh

[paper summit]

tbf it's also that some come thinking the game is supposed to keep them occupied for many hours for some reason

[rotund lagoon]

I’m the one that procrastinates on Gauntlet for that reason

[hearty lynx]

got my first 10k this week

[restive roost]

how do u do master mode

i have it unlocked but idk what i should do

[rotund lagoon]

If it’s unlocked, make sure to toggle it on the top of the CS screen

[restive roost]

do i just clear it normally?

[trail smelt]

Master Mode allows you to pick parameters that alter the battle and make it harder on yourself for points that gives out rewards

[restive roost]

ye

[rotund lagoon]

When you tap a member, you get a points screen.

[trail smelt]

Once you turn on the battle when you’re about to fight you are given a list

[rotund lagoon]

Input the parameters to get points. Parameters are in pins.

[rotund lagoon]

Make sure Master Mode says “On” btw

[rotund lagoon]

Good, then tap a member and see the points list?

[restive roost]

mhm

[rotund lagoon]

Now did you check the pins?

[restive roost]

yes

[rotund lagoon]

Just tap each parameter to apply the points. They will be counted when the match is done.

[restive roost]

if i beat the champ do i get to challenge them all again

for more points

or do i have to get as much points as i can in one go

[rotund lagoon]

The max is 10k. You can reset and try again as many times as you want after MM is unlocked.

And reset can be done anytime.

[restive roost]

does it reset my total points

[rotund lagoon]

Yes.

So say for example: I did Caitlin and Grimsley for 4000 points total. Then I reset. The total is back to 0.

The rewards from 0-4000 are still gained, so they cannot be regained again.

[restive roost]

oh

alright

[versed meteor]

Was bored so i tried to redo the csmm with team combinations i usually dont use but got slapped around

Why?

[trail smelt]

… because they’re teams you don’t usually use?

[restive roost]

do my pairs need grid expansions for master mode

[zealous karma]

Preferably you’d grid tjem yes

It’s very rare for a unit to clear CSMm gridless

[restive roost]

cause rn only acerola and gio have them

oh dang

[zealous karma]

Not rare but grids make it noticeably easier

It’s still doable gridless apologies I miss spoke

5/5 ex CMarnie

[restive roost]

oh shit

thats supposed to be a 3

[zealous karma]

That’s a free off type lel

Don’t use her for dark even if it sounds weird

[restive roost]

imma use her for the final stage

cause in normal mode i barely beat it with the dragons i got

[zealous karma]

Why dragons easy with Cyrus

You also have Ex zinnia

[restive roost]

no mega tho

[zealous karma]

Make sure to complete that event but she doesn’t need mega

[restive roost]

alr

[zealous karma]

I’d use CMarnie for fire it’s pretty difficult

[trail smelt]

Yeah I remember Grimsley being annoying when my only fire option was Hilda LMAO

[zealous karma]

He’s def up there for fire stages

[restive roost]

i got rolled on pyschic

[zealous karma]

You’re using Gio?

[restive roost]

sabirna and sycamore

and gio

[zealous karma]

That’s a bit much as Sabrina and sycamore both buff very similar stats I’d bring a defense stat buffer instead

[restive roost]

what parameters can i do

[zealous karma]

There are parameters in pins but I’d use someone like Roxanne instead in case sonia can be used elsewhere

[hot shadow]

Don't tank with Sabrina, she's less bulky than Sonia

[zealous karma]

Psychic: Gio Sab Roxanne
Dark: Hop Nessa Masked Royal
Fire: CMarnie Skyla idk a third
Ground: CHop Bea Sonia
Dragon: Zinnia Bertha SSBlue

[restive roost]

ty

im so dumb i was looking at the new parameters instead of the recommended this entire time

i was so lost 😭

[tired sleet]

Is unboosted Silver really that bad

[zealous karma]

He’s difficult to support and he doesn’t have many good partners either

I’ve never had pre Pb silver work ever

[tired sleet]

I guess +6 spe +6 atk and sun is a bit much, since Lyra and Hilbert aren’t super tanky

[zealous karma]

How’s it going ?

[restive roost]

yeah so

uhh

i gave up

league called me so i went

and then i lost a 50 min ranked game

😭

[zealous karma]

even withthe video I gave you?4

[restive roost]

yeah but i got this

cause marnie 🤟

[weak sleet]

Any tips? This is 2k at round 4. I do have champion Marnie too if that's easier.

Calem died from a single hyper beam.

Like would this work better?

[vapid sleet]

the reason calem died is probably because theres no one that buffs spdef in that team

[bronze onyx]

Calem dying from the Hyper Beam is expected

[rotund lagoon]

Huh, I did the same team.

[nocturne pawn]

hyper beam isnt meant to be tanked

[bronze onyx]

What's not expected is Musharna surviving beyond that

[stray cipher]

Evade

Calem literally has b double team

Try and get lucky ig

[nocturne pawn]

yes the pinnacle of reliability

[rotund lagoon]

As long as Caitlin is down before you, you’re fine. Get zone in before Hyper Beam happens too.

[bronze onyx]

Sidney should KO Musharna before she syncs

[mellow linden]

I think either team would be good, maybe slightly better with Greninjas due to less gauge consumption since the 2nd team is lacking on gauge management

[weak sleet]

Well don't I sync with calem first?

[bronze onyx]

Since his second sync will be ready after the Hyper Beam

Unless you're missing your quad queue

But yes, you got Marnie, just use her

It's pretty much impossible to lose if you go frogs + Moltres

[weak sleet]

Oh there we go

[nocturne pawn]

2.5k kanto cs should still be a shoe-in right

[rotund lagoon]

@zealous karma What do you think?

[nocturne pawn]

oh god richu why

[rotund lagoon]

Probably forgor to change back

[zealous karma]

Think of what?

[weak sleet]

Did they make Kanto any harder?

Besides the change to master mode of course.

[zealous karma]

no

[weak sleet]

So it should be a cake walk to clear even with the changes?

[zealous karma]

prolly

[wide adder]

if anything with the new parameters, you can make even easier parameters for 2.5k than we had for 2k

[restive roost]

what parameters for dark

[zealous karma]

you would preferably pre sync the stage also grid hop

[restive roost]

how do i decide the parameters

[restive roost]

hop is 1/5

is that okp

[zealous karma]

why

hes given to you for free 5/5

[restive roost]

oh shit that one

i was thinkijg of champ

[zealous karma]

also plz tell me you did not off type psychic with cmarnie

if i interpreted your messages correctly

[weak sleet]

Oh that's really good I hope!

[restive roost]

u said use her for grimsley (fire)

[zealous karma]

oh okay good

[restive roost]

so i used her red and acerola

and i took a random set of parameters

i think post sync

[restive roost]

like this

[zealous karma]

Seems fine

Try to grab this from MR

[restive roost]

magic resist??

[zealous karma]

masked royal

[restive roost]

ok got those

whos nessa

nessas pokemon

nvm i found her

for prio is it hop nessa then inceneroar

[cinder summit]

Nessa & Drednaw

‎ Type: ‎　‎　Weak:

Level 140 Stats:

HP: 695
ATK: 319 | DEF: 210
SPA: 199 | SPD: 157
SPE: 201

Acquisition:

General Pool
Ticket Scout
Ticket Scout (Galar)

Alternates:

Nessa (Holiday 2021) & Eiscue

Sync Grid Recommendations:

Rain Razor Shell / Sync Nuke (3/5)
‎　+ Cakewalk / Without Rain
‎　+ Full Sync Nuke
‎　+ Without Sync
Rain Jaw Lock / Sync Nuke (3/5)
‎　+ Cakewalk / Without Rain

Lucky Skill: Critical Strike 2, Weathered Warrior 3

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[restive roost]

uhh

she got her sync

and i died

who is syncing first

i used masked royal

[wide adder]

this is dark weak i assume?

[void wyvern]

Yes, Masked royal should be your first sync if your team is Hop, Masked royal, Nessa.

[zealous karma]

Yes

[wide adder]

MR TM > Hop TM > Nessa Jaw Lock > MR TM > Hop TM > Nessa Jaw Lock > Hop TM > MR Brutal Swing > Jaw Lock > MR Sync > Hop does whatever > Nessa Lock > MR Lariat probably

[restive roost]

so nessa just lock

[zealous karma]

Make sure to use masked royals trainer move (Ready... Fight!) twice to max out his syncs innate inertia, and to mostly spam nessas jaw lock and make sure to quad queue a brutal swing (or x atk idk how the gauge is ut should be fine) and then sync again with mr

[wide adder]

nessa doesnt need to tm cause hop should give her the required buffs as-is while doing MRs buffs

jaw locks nessas dark move so

[zealous karma]

usually I would record how to do it but phone is dead

[restive roost]

i need to sync twice before they sync right?

[zealous karma]

preferably

[restive roost]

Ahhhh

she gets her sync right before masked riyal does

second

[wide adder]

if possible, yes, but optimally you should be able to kill mid without needing second sync tbh. darkest lariat for extra mid damage if you have the gauge.

[restive roost]

his second sync

[wide adder]

how much hp do you get them to before enemy sync

[restive roost]

no shes like half hp

[wide adder]

yikes, hmm

[zealous karma]

can you record what you are doing if that is possivle

[restive roost]

in a few min

[wide adder]

this is for Caitlin right? which round is it?

[zealous karma]

i assume 2

[restive roost]

i could do it round 3 or 4

marhsal or shauntel could be my second round if that matters

sorry it took so long

[zealous karma]

dw

oh

firstly

take off the debuff param

masked royals entire kit revolves around them

also spambrutal swing apposed to DL not that DL is bad but it chips and debuffs the sides

but otherwse youre not doing anything wrong

you could reset until you get tm mpr from hop and give masked royal Critical strike 2/def crush

[restive roost]

what should i replace with