Champion Stadium

[tame gust]

Tap in to your lower rarity pairs. You might have some options there

[umbral crow]

I have all gacha and story pair fyi, bp pairs only surge

I just wants to lower the images

My gridless Silver beats it with anniv Raihan and hop zamazenta.

U need max flare for sun first and mp refresh for hop trainer move so it can max silver atk

Eh nvm its on r1 so gauge is not an issue

[tame gust]

So use Gordie because I don’t have access to AnniHan

[umbral crow]

Yeah but raihan buffs physical attack tho not sure about gordie

[tame gust]

Gordie doesn’t team buff lmao.

[umbral crow]

Rip

[tame gust]

Well, Gordie does decrease enemy fire Rebuff so that’s sort of a team boost lol

[umbral crow]

Wrecked it with colress hop combo

[dreamy charm]

Yes, just hard mode

[mellow linden]

Kiawe or Maylene instead of Misty then. That current team has no one to buff Cynthia's offenses, so she either is forced to spend way too many turns buffing herself or will be running without any offensive buffs

[dreamy charm]

Ait, thx

[tame gust]

Alright done with HM for the week. Now to reset and do MM stuff.

[dreamy charm]

Hard lvl1. Tried a couple of times now. Im either 2 or 3 hits short from clearing the stage. Tried with lillie as well, but im short with 3-4 hits. Should i grid cynthia or acerola?

[tired sleet]

Grid acerola with Astonish: Aggravation 1

Also, you want to keep in mind that enemies take turns moving like a metronome:
Middle, Right, Middle, Left, repeat
In CS, tho, after they sync only middle will use moves unless disrupted. You can use this to flinch them right before they attack you

[zealous karma]

Do you have any other suooorts you can use for Cynthia/how close are you to 15 types?

[tired sleet]

Oh yeah, you’d also want to tank with kiawe (or whoever) rather than acerola

[dreamy charm]

@zealous karma 15 types?

[zealous karma]

If you can level up maylene I’d use her

[tame gust]

Hmm.. trying to figure how I’m gonna deal with MM grimsley. Might bump down to 1.5k points or lower since I don’t have a lot of good answers to take him down on pre-sync (ho-oh needs to be gridded but no orbs and no scrolls to unlock LS slot) But it’s best to kill him before the sync

On round 3, gonna use Gio/Two for r4 marshal

[proud axle]

Do you have Hilbert, even if he's 1/5

As powerful as Overheat is, you can just use Sacred Fire

Hilbert provides Atk and Speed, which is exactly what Silver needs

[tame gust]

Hilbert was already used on R1 Caitlin with Masked Royal.

Decided to tune down to 1500 and managed to squeak out a win. Leafeon go brrr

But yeah, Hilbert would’ve been the better play on Silver team

[tame gust]

And now I’m trying to figure out how to deal with Iris on 2k. Tried poison stall but Haxorus damage even with debuffs just invalidates my stall team

[swift swan]

cyrus and zinnia already used?

[tame gust]

Nah both are open but orb starved since I used won orbs on masked royal. So zinnia would be going gridless. Cyrus has orbs on him though. Just not sure on a team comp.

I’m thinking Cyrus, Sycamore and a crit buffer

I do have 1/5 Lance

[paper summit]

if you have Sabrina and a speed buffer then you could go with him

[tame gust]

Used Sabrina already on Marshal

Sadly I doubt Kimono Grimsley’s counter attack would one-shot Hax

Cyrus also doesn’t have his boost. I guess I can wait for Aqua event, get Zinnia upgraded and then smack Iris down

[swift swan]

hmmm, considering it's only Unova, pre-powerboost cyrus should still clear at 2k

you just need the grid

[tame gust]

I have max orb investment on Cyrus. The problem’s probably my support choices. I was originally going to do Ramming Speed Hydro Pump with Cyrus/May and have Sycamore vampire tank, but it doesn’t work out well since Sycamore can’t vamp tank with low crit rate:

Could bring in Winona for rain but possible flinch.

[proud axle]

Do you have Lillie/Clefairy?

Zinnia's boosts from the event are EX and Mega evo, not grid stuff. You don't want her syncing anyway, Cyrus' sync is better here

He has Critstrike 9

I'm thinking Cyrus + Lillie + Skyla should be able to win against Iris.

Lillie has X Acc All to get Cyrus' hitrate to 100%, her TM applies Sure Crit Next so Cyrus can easily stack his Crit Focus right away, and...

Iris uses Dragon moves.

The enemy teamcomp is fully physical, so Skyla's teamwide Defense and Potions are a more useful toolset than Sycamore's vampire tanking

If you don't have Lillie, you can compensate with Torchic instead

[tame gust]

Lillie actually came home today, so yeah I was pairing her with Cyrus originally. Probably wasn’t taking full advantage of stuff. So in terms of Cyrus grid, since I don’t have ramming speed for spacial rend do I just keep slugging out RS Hydro Pumps and use Lillie’s TM for Cyrus sync?

[swift swan]

I'd say go for spacial rend still

iris is dragon-weak, it should be stronger

use hydro pump if you're offtyping

[tame gust]

I’ll test it out.

Oh wait.. huh when did I use Skyla…?

This might be looking like a reset. But I deadass don’t remember using her.

.. why the eff did I use her on Caitlin when I had Carnie.. smh

[paper summit]

blame it on noobness

[paper summit]

on type, yeah, SR is better than HP

[tame gust]

I’ll blame it on me not paying attention is what I’ll blame it on lmao

[zealous karma]

Wait you used zinnia on Caitlin

?

But have CMarnie?

E

[paper summit]

no, they used Skyla

when Marnie buffs her own speed by 4

and it's extreme overkill in that battle even if you have gauge issues

[zealous karma]

Oh I see

Marnie buffs her own Spd til

What support does she need out of zone wth

[swift swan]

sp def debuffer I guess

or any defensive support, not that you'll need it

[zealous karma]

What a moyai unit

[paper summit]

what the heck is moyai used for?

[zealous karma]

🗿 it just looks funny

Also just like a bruh

[tame gust]

Okay two down, now back to round 3 grimsely

[toxic cobalt]

Super HP Grims

[tame gust]

Lillie/Cyrus/Skyla can’t meet the DPS check vs 2k pre sync Iris. Her Sync kills my whole field even after buffs. Suggestions on pre condition to survive this bastard?

Or at least mine can’t and I’m trying to understand the why.

[paper summit]

you are not quadqueing are you?

or how close are you from taking down Iris before she syncs?

[toxic cobalt]

Cyrus can absolutely do it what is Lillie doing there

[tame gust]

reminder this is non boosted Cyrus. as for what Lillie's doing there.. Hell if I know.. also I'm not sure if I'm quad-ing or not. I'm just putting as many attacks in as I can

[toxic cobalt]

Lol Cyrus boost isn't doing anything here

Why not take out Lillie, put in Acerola

[toxic cobalt]

Not with that field parameter they're not

[tame gust]

no. Don't send me back to flinch hell. The bird has already made me cry because of it.

[toxic cobalt]

You gotta do what you gotta do

[tame gust]

mrrgrrgrr.

yeah, I'll try that out then. So basically the goal is to try to flinch lock?

[toxic cobalt]

No

The goal is just get one or two flinches so you don't need to quadqueue

Easy

[trail smelt]

I can honestly say I was NOT expecting that CS event lol

So… grass weak?

[devout sluice]

Grass weak? SC Rosa time

[rigid flint]

I thought fighting weak

[trail smelt]

Oh I guess Fighting works too

[tired sleet]

Grims could have sharpedo or Bertha could have rhyperior

[devout sluice]

Oh, this is about the new CS?

Oh it is, well I’m just gonna wait on the CS type list later.

[main crow]

So any news regarding 12.5k and the supposed new parameters?

[old orchid]

not yet

[devout sluice]

Ya, I can wait.

[swift swan]

hello CS chat

looks like we'll have to wait a bit for the new params

[swift swan]

it's nice that the first monotype CS is grass, should be pretty easy

[toxic cobalt]

Sycamore solos for days

[lost gulch]

any rewards for 12.5k?

[old orchid]

No infor yet

[trail smelt]

Shame that the bit I’m most interested in is usually much later revealed haha

Ah well I can wait

[lost gulch]

im worried for 2.5k bertha

cos shes the hardest

[trail smelt]

Well to be fair I don’t think the event is gonna have master mode

Kanto is gonna be our first foray into 12,500 or say, the event is a separate thing most likely

[old orchid]

according to this image, Pasio CS has MM as well

[trail smelt]

Oh DANG

[grim bison]

What are the new parameters

I heard there were new ones

[trail smelt]

Not yet

[old orchid]

please be patient

[trail smelt]

I mean it’s in this update but not revealed yet by datamine rs

Hmm now let’s see if I can make 5 mono grass teams…

[devout sluice]

So the only typing we know is grass, right?

Oh wait I think the CS could be full grass.

Because I remember reading the dev letter and said a CS could have one type.

Well then, time to prepare my teams for it.

[dark osprey]

I guess we know its grass. but not sure on if monotype teams are needed or would there be a boost only for grass damage dealt or received

if it's similar to current CS then u can still offtype all the grass weak stages right?

[devout sluice]

They might allow off-type

But I lack a lot of grass and I don’t have a lot of materials to raise ex to grass. But I already got my team set up. 2 off-type teams and 3 on-type trams

[frosty axle]

With two Pikachu, Galarian Moltres, Greninjas one can pretty much offtype easily

[devout sluice]

All that’s left now is to wait for the kanto CS typing which could happen possibly tomorrow and then I’m all set for next month.

CS gonna be so wild for me I can tell.

[frosty axle]

should be later @manic kiln when he does it

[devout sluice]

Either later today or tomorrow, I’m fine with either of those options.

[swift swan]

yay, possibly more for you whales out there

[grim bison]

Is the new CS a limited time thing?

[dark osprey]

yes

[manic kiln]

@tribal agate pin pls

[swift swan]

should be easy types next week

oh who am I kidding, it's kanto, should be easy overall

[manic kiln]

10 more spirits and 15 PU tickets for 12.5k, not too bad

[swift swan]

15 ?

[manic kiln]

yeah

[swift swan]

huh, that's actually good

I expected terrible rewards so new players don't feel pressured going for 12.5k

[manic kiln]

https://pastebin.com/T1NCk9rz

[dark osprey]

oh shoot its only rewards and that too 10 PU tickets & 10 Champion spirits extra right?

sry 15 PU tickets

hope they didn't change the other rewards for lower than 10K

[manic kiln]

10k rewards stay the same

[swift swan]

hmm, looks like we still don't know the parameters yet

would that be on the server side?

[manic kiln]

yeah idk probably

[keen jasper]

So with the 12.5k rewards, you can EX a unit every week

[old orchid]

its just addition 15 and 10 per week

[keen jasper]

Oh it's power up tickets exchange

[frosty axle]

cool again 😎

[wide adder]

What sort of team does kimono grims want? Gonna try him for steel

Also gonna try out Mallow I think

[grim bison]

Speed, somebody who can buff both sides of defense

[wide adder]

So a speed buffer and someone with Leer?

[grim bison]

He has screech so no need for leer

You'd want a speed buffer since his speed is quite bad

[silent quail]

new CS options

Max HP ↑ 8
Interference Immunity
Five Stats ↑ 3 at Start
Five Stats ↓ 3 at Start
Physical Damage Reduction 8
Special Damage Reduction 8
Standard Damage Reduction 8
Can’t Change Zone, Weather, or Terrain
Strike Sync Pairs Take ×3 Damage
Tech Sync Pairs Take ×3 Damage
Support Sync Pairs Take ×3 Damage

[trail smelt]

No points?

[old orchid]

[silent quail]

don't know the cost

[trail smelt]

Also oh god interference immunity. That shuts down like all of the full points clear doesn’t it?

Strike and tech are hilarious honestly

[swift swan]

LMAO interference immunity

physical and special damage reduction 8?

is that a passive? like Azelf's damage split?

[trail smelt]

Standard damage is weird

[silent quail]

you're asking at the wrong time

we don't know

I just got the texts from the files

how they behave is yet to be known

[swift swan]

ah, they don't have the description yet?

[silent quail]

I do have them

Reduces damage the opponent receives by 80% when the opponent is hit by a move, sync move, or max move that is a physical attack.
Reduces damage the opponent receives by 80% when the opponent is hit by a move, sync move, or max move that is a special attack.
Reduces damage the opponent receives by 80% when the opponent is hit by a move, sync move, or max move that is not a supereffective attack.

[dark osprey]

cool additions. thanks for the info as always.

[swift swan]

aaaah, so pretty much like Azelf

[silent quail]

depends

[swift swan]

thanks for the hard work, stdk

[old orchid]

Standard Damage Reduction 8 is really nice for ontype

[silent quail]

it can behave like a condition of the match

[swift swan]

but it includes sync and max moves this time

[silent quail]

and not a skill

[swift swan]

[dark osprey]

yeah. many paramaters in players favor i guess

maybe it will be easier than 2K now

[trail smelt]

Oh hey non SE damage down? Sounds like something I’m gonna choose everytime LMAO

I was afraid that they were gonna go the opposite direction lol

And reduce SE damage

[swift swan]

I guess if you're running mixed damage dealers you can't really grab physical and special reduction, so better stick to one of them?

[old orchid]

yeah

[swift swan]

people are gonna find ways to offtype even with this parameter active

[dark osprey]

also the strike/tech pairs taking more damage seems like a win in non aoe stages

[swift swan]

seems like a win for presync clears again

[trail smelt]

The interference immunity is still hilarious lol

[swift swan]

ss lyra in shambles

[dark osprey]

lol yeah. no more 4K for SS Lyra i guess

[swift swan]

eventually we'll have to revise the pinned params and I'm not looking forward to it

[dark osprey]

gulp yeah

don't think its easy to generalize now

so many variables

on type, physical/ special etc

[silent quail]

picks No Zone

the variety will make the points easier

lol

[tribal agate]

rip the on-type recoil dream

[dark osprey]

maybe even easier than current 2K?

[trail smelt]

Depends on how much they’re worth

[dark osprey]

suggestion sent to DeNA

[main crow]

Interference are things like trapped, confusion, flinch and restraint yeah?

[dark osprey]

yup

[trail smelt]

Yeah

[old orchid]

only flinch, confusion and trapped are counted as Interference according to dena's wording

the rest is status change

[trail smelt]

Huh restraint isn’t?

[dark osprey]

oh. even i thought all of them fall under status change

including flinch, confused and trapped

[main crow]

The x3 damage against specific role is gonna be such a free cash money

[dark osprey]

so they all fall under status change but not interference?

[swift swan]

They all count as status change, yes

Interference is a slightly narrower category

Flinch, confusion, trap counts as interference, and by extension, status change

I'm not sure if restrain counts as interference too or not

[cinder summit]

Interference Immunity

Prevents the user from flinching, becoming confused, or becoming trapped.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Ball Guy & Amoonguss
Lillie (New Year's 2021) & Ribombee
Lillie (Special Costume) & Polteageist

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[old orchid]

^

[dark osprey]

ah thanks

[swift swan]

Yay I can still pick that parameter when running zerena

[dark osprey]

ahaa. going to bring in Haze users just for the points

[livid frigate]

Do we know about that event stadium?

[swift swan]

Only that the weakness will be grass, for now

[livid frigate]

I see thanks

[swift swan]

And the members #datamines message

It seems like there will be master mode unlocked too

[noble tinsel]

Hello may i ask when the new csmm will come out? Is there a specific date?

[bronze onyx]

Weird that they went with Interference Immunity over Status Change Immunity

More power to restrain and rebuff pairs I guess

[manic mica]

lol that would block gradual healing too

[bronze onyx]

Not like it would give many points either way I think

Seeing as status condition Immunity is low points

[tribal agate]

April 11th if you meant the new limited one
If you meant the next normal rotation, check the last pin

[manic mica]

50 (worst case scenario) + 150 (gradual healing at start) is 200 points for nothing

[zealous karma]

Wait are the new Params out?

[manic mica]

here (also can someone pin this)

[grand trout]

Does crit bypass damage reduction?

And do the zones apply to the opponent too?

[zealous karma]

Yes

[grand trout]

Yess fuck you kalos and hoenn (not really, you two are still my favorite regions)

[zealous karma]

Or at least it should unless it’s entry x2

[dark osprey]

That would be weird when Wikstrom or Sidney cannot apply zone then?

[zealous karma]

They definitely changed the appearance of parameters

[dark osprey]

Maybe entry zones would be ok?

I guess it shouldn't apply to the enemy

[manic mica]

idk why you guys think that opponents would be unable to change the field as well given that "no status conditions" is only for the player and if opponents couldn't change field then dark zone phoebe stage would be a joke

[zealous karma]

It already is one! I’m joking lel

But zones apply to everyone on the field sk

I think rip her zone

[old orchid]

Next CS rotation

[zealous karma]

You can’t make it only effecy one side without going through extra hurdles to change it

Entry x8 what if

[grand trout]

Do they make 5 weeks worth of rotation for each e4

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Seems right to me

[manic mica]

uh you can by putting the limitation on the player's party only

it wouldn't be hard to do

[zealous karma]

Extra coding mimir

[manic mica]

come on now dena's dev team isn't bad

[dark osprey]

Only the round parameters apply to both sides right

[manic mica]

^ that's correct

point parameters are always to the player's disadvantage while round parameters affect everyone

[dark osprey]

I wish they split the zone weather and terrain parameters

[zealous karma]

I don’t like any of these new params

Cause I pretty much always use ll of those things

I guess it’ll be nicer free params for new players with smaller rosters

[manic mica]

use triple tech to check off damage and supp parameters tbh

[zealous karma]

Just don’t use suoports

[dark osprey]

Some are an easy win but the need for an extra 500 points would be difficult to manage with just these new ones

[zealous karma]

I’ll just use a variation of my 3K params

So I don’t mind

[dark osprey]

So it may be helpful for newer players to get 2K

[grand trout]

I mean

Consider that the 3x damage applies to aoe only

[dark osprey]

Yeah. The tougher CS regions do spam them AOEs though

[zealous karma]

I’ll prolly never take those x3 passives cause I love having tech striker support teams

My only consistent non support team is Victor SSLyra pserena

[dark osprey]

Tech tech support and striker striker support will gain some more acceptance I guess

[zealous karma]

Oh right my Calem AniMay ssbrendan has no striker Swag

[manic mica]

if me it's bird serena as a pseudo support

or colress

[dark osprey]

Don't know why. Coloress at 1/5 though for me did badly at tanking

[manic mica]

1/5
there is your answer

[zealous karma]

All he gets from grid to improve tanking is metallic healing 1 and endurance altho enduranxe helps a bot

But

[dark osprey]

I guess endurance would have helped at least. But expected a bit more at base

[manic mica]

team sentry entry 2

[dark osprey]

Especially with those defense buffs

Also with only one TM gauge was also a problem. Guess I need to wait for more copies

[keen jasper]

Max HP +8 is a godsend honestly because I can fully set up my nuke without the worry of killing mid

[dark osprey]

[subtle forge]

Is there a list of all the new parameters?

[keen jasper]

#1009554906568462476 message

[subtle forge]

Interesting

[cosmic vortex]

Guys, does grass weak new cs also have master mode?

[civic trellis]

Can we off type?

[old orchid]

yes

[cosmic vortex]

So twice reward? Like it give same reward like normal kanto cs?

[full mesa]

What's new for CS? Apart from 12.5k new cap.

[main crow]

New parameters and extra rewards

There's the also that new CS event with mixed E4 + chamo

[full mesa]

Where can I read the new changes with more details?

[main crow]

Here new parameters

[unborn wedge]

Ironically these new parameters make Master Mode even easier since now you can forgo some of the harder ones. A lot of free points here.

[main crow]

New rewards are 10 champ spirit and 15 PU tickets

[grim bison]

How many points do the new parameters give

[unborn wedge]

Free points:

• Interference Immunity
• Physical Damage Reduction 8 or Special Damage Reduction 8 (Depending on your main attacker)
• Standard Damage Reduction 8 (On type only)
• Strike Sync Pairs Take ×3 Damage
• Tech Sync Pairs Take ×3 Damage

[cosmic vortex]

Five stats down also looks nice

Especially if i use impervious support, and downside up teammates

[unborn wedge]

Yeah. Looks like we'll be able to remove some of the Strength Up parameters from the standard builds.

[cosmic vortex]

Sycamore is a f2p impervious pair

[unborn wedge]

Funny how we get more points but they made it easier with the new parameters that are just easy points as we usually go on-type anyways.

[full mesa]

We'll see. Kanto is an easy CS. Let Sinnoh arrive first.

[cosmic vortex]

Oh i want to ask, does interference only count trapped? Or it count flinch and confused as well?

[cinder summit]

Interference Immunity

Prevents the user from flinching, becoming confused, or becoming trapped.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Ball Guy & Amoonguss
Lillie (New Year's 2021) & Ribombee
Lillie (Special Costume) & Polteageist

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[unborn wedge]

Gives them this

[civic trellis]

Hmm those last 2 ig id have to use 2 supps

[unborn wedge]

I think this will be 50 points since No Status Conditions are also 50 Points.

[full mesa]

Interference immunity is a gift and a curse.

[cosmic vortex]

Oh nice, not many of my team uses flinch... well out of my faves, only sslyra and anniskyla have kinda reliable flinch...oh wait might be a problem for scguzma as he rely on confusion

[civic trellis]

Interference immunity prevents confusion and trap etc.?

[full mesa]

Yep

[civic trellis]

How many points for each btw

[cosmic vortex]

It says flinching as well

[civic trellis]

Oh alr

[full mesa]

Flinch being the biggest of them all

[unborn wedge]

I mostly use SS Lyra for the Terrain rather than rely on the Flinch and Trap.

[toxic cobalt]

At first reading these new parameters are free points

[unborn wedge]

They're a bonus for me

[civic trellis]

Oh ye

Does rebuff count?

[cosmic vortex]

I also like no terrain, zone, weather...well good for rebuff units

[unborn wedge]

Nah that's different

Oh yeah that's good too

[civic trellis]

I think it means u cant change it so not good for glacia bertha etc.

[unborn wedge]

I wouldn't say completely free. The ones I listed are free for almost any build

[cosmic vortex]

Well if they have zone on entry, we cannot even change it

Can still use units that have rebuff

30% more on type damage

[civic trellis]

Wdym?

[cosmic vortex]

Per rebuff

[civic trellis]

Oh

Nvm

Tho it is good for stages without any terrain…. U can apply ur own and get infinite terrain

Also when the stage only applies it before sync

[cosmic vortex]

They try to sell sc steven hard for that param

[civic trellis]

Or am I misunderstanding the param?

[dark osprey]

Zones on our end will be limited only I think

[cosmic vortex]

Yep i dont think enemies will have any dimerits probably only we cannot change field effects

[dark osprey]

Can't get Infinite zone

[civic trellis]

Ah ok, still free for terrain-less stages ig

[cosmic vortex]

Yep, rebuffs shines for that param

Well if its too hassle can just not pick it

[civic trellis]

Do we know?

[dark osprey]

Not yet

[civic trellis]

Oh ok

[civic trellis]

Ye, guess it is a bit more useful than I thought

[cosmic vortex]

Well i only have 1 rebuff unit so not that useful , well i can just not select it

[civic trellis]

I have gordie, ss wally, cserena I think

[full mesa]

I don't have many rebuff units but I don't see the appeal to the new ones.

[civic trellis]

Only rebuff unit im missing that I want would be gilbert but his rebuff depends on the weakness anyway

[cosmic vortex]

Gilbert and ScSteven kinda similar...both have rebuff to various types and one have metal sound while the other have buddy leer

[short glacier]

Do we know the skills of the new champion stadium event? The one that is only grass weak

[eternal escarp]

New params are nice some seem free depending on MU or in general

[manic kiln]

@tribal agate can you pin this too

[full mesa]

So we start with all grass. SSLyra will shine.

[toxic cobalt]

It’s not even Lorelei and Cloyster??

[manic kiln]

nope

[full mesa]

@swift swan sorry for the ping. Do you think I should pull SC Ingo? I have Alder (1/5) and SCEmmet (3/5).

[toxic cobalt]

[main crow]

That Serena basically saying don't bring special grass type lol

[cosmic vortex]

Nice, i dont see any sentryx2 and wisex2

[tribal agate]

new graphic?

oh the special stadium

[manic kiln]

yeah for the CS event

[tribal agate]

the pins in this channel are getting so cluttered i need to clean up a bit

[toxic cobalt]

You can really see the Sinnoh difficulty increase

[manic kiln]

yeah more passives and moves

[old orchid]

dena is so lazy that they just copy paste the same E4 stages from other CS lol

[full mesa]

What were you expecting?

New stages for the event?

[tribal agate]

the new MM points will appear in 5 resets for Kanto right? I'll remove that pin when it happens

[old orchid]

i was expecting the harder version of the existing stages, not just the copy paste

[toxic cobalt]

It’s not too bad. I expect we do a general revamp anyway to include 12.5k params.

[tribal agate]

yeah it's not as bad as it used to be long ago

tho i make sure in my other threads to keep it structured for readability

[full mesa]

Mono type is already a harder version depending on the type.

[cosmic vortex]

Does special cs also have 12.5k cs rewards? Iirc it also have master mode

[bright furnace]

At least the mono type isn’t fairy lol

[full mesa]

Or Ground.

[formal vigil]

or ice

[keen jasper]

Or poison

[cosmic vortex]

I love gladion for this, he can be damage dealer for any 1 round

[bronze onyx]

Dang, Ash will only deal 50% with a single move now with those new params

[full mesa]

That's why I built him. Hop/Marley/Gladion. It saved my behind so many times.

[full mesa]

That's only if you choose them.

[bright furnace]

Idk how many of the new parameters I would choose. I’ll wait for others to experiment

I do have parameters at the 15k level so I guess it’s just scaling back a little. It’ll be fun team building for the special event I guess

[prime warren]

What's the damage reduction 8 passive?

[short glacier]

I was about to ask, what does it mean "Standard damage reduction 8"

I am not sure what it is, I was thinking that it's both physical and special damage reduction at the same time

[prime warren]

5 stats down 3 is just free buffs for downside up units

[short glacier]

Anni Steven W

[zealous karma]

Wise entry x8

(I hope not)

[old orchid]

Reduce non super effective hits' damage by 80%

[prime warren]

So it's just fucking tough skin

[zealous karma]

That’s horrorfyinf

Off type supports dying

[prime warren]

God I am gonna hate these passives

[zealous karma]

They’re params

CMarnie still clears

And Piercinf bows should ignore it

[old orchid]

they are battle conditions, not passives

no Piercing Blows cant ignore them

[zealous karma]

Ew

[prime warren]

Piercing blows ignores tough skin

This one is worse version

Well I can do 3.5k with old passives itself anyways

[unborn wedge]

I mean, if you're on type, you ignore it anyways

[formal musk]

guys what does points raise mean

[old orchid]

thats mean 12.5k points is the new cap for CS

[formal musk]

hm ok

[old orchid]

instead of usual 10k

[formal musk]

so is it limited time since it ends in a month or something some thing

[tribal agate]

no the Kanto CS is time limited like all rotations

the Points raise is permanent

[formal musk]

oh ok so 12.5k is perm

w

ok thank you 👍

[prime warren]

Does special event CS also have points?

[bright furnace]

Yeah, some extra helps I suppose

[short glacier]

Yes

[formal musk]

(gonna be painful for kalos sinnoh hoenn cs tho)

[short glacier]

it also has a master mode if I am not mistaken

[zealous karma]

These new params suck

3.5K the horror

[short glacier]

cause I saw the points reward in the pastebin

[zealous karma]

Is this event like in the CS page or the events page?

It’s cool the Neo champs actually serve a purpose

[short glacier]

it's pinned here

It kinda makes sense if you think about it, they became champion in their respective event

glad they are using them for something

[prime warren]

5 Stat up , strike and tech X3 dmg, physical/spl dmg red are ez picks tbh

[zealous karma]

Same

[prime warren]

Rest are painpeko tho

[short glacier]

most of the new parameters looks like free points

[zealous karma]

5 stat uo seems like pain to me

+2 offenses and them@amyeh +Spd

[prime warren]

It isn't

Coz my supports all run vigilance

[zealous karma]

I prefer head start

[bright furnace]

I think I might game some of these parameters depending on the opponent lol

[short glacier]

5 stat down 3 is basically an invitation to dinner for downside up units

[prime warren]

My only headstart running supports are redlax and ssMorty and their comps sync in just 1 rotation so

[zealous karma]

I use so many tech striker supp teams to

[unborn wedge]

I've personally taken a liking for these parameters for 2k.

Physical Dmg. Reduction
Special Dmg. Reduction
Strength Up 1
Sync Buff Up 5
Power Up on Hit 1
Strength Up 2
Power Up on Hit 2
Strength Up 3
Ally Move Gauge Max -2
Strength Up 6```
Being able to sub a bunch of these out for the newer ones is gonna make it a ton easier ironically enough. ![WulfricKEKW](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/725004521377497109.webp?size=128 "WulfricKEKW")

[zealous karma]

Abuse the params

[bright furnace]

Like does no terrain and weather block someone like bertha setting weather for example

[zealous karma]

I hate them and they can all be deleted from the game

[unborn wedge]

If I use Champion Marnie, I swap one of those 200 point ones for Ally HP Down at Start 5 to take advantage of her Passive.

[shrewd oyster]

Her trainer move already damages her so I'm not sure if that's necessary?

[keen jasper]

Here goes nothing. My F2P teams for the Kanto CS

[unborn wedge]

Not enough to go under half if at full HP

One use of her Trainer Move with that Parameter triggers that Passive

[lost gulch]

are they expecting us to offtype or some sort?

[shrewd oyster]

If you don't have 5 reliable strikers I guess yeah

[lost gulch]

gotcha

seems like cserena is tougher

normally e4 is tougher

[shrewd oyster]

Than the champion?

[lost gulch]

yea

[shrewd oyster]

I guess I never specifically checked stats but that's strange
maybe because you're using two effects?

[dark osprey]

Yeah. But no Sinnoh, Kalos etc. levels of bulk

Balancing out the difficulty I guess

[civic trellis]

What r the params on the right side?

[keen jasper]

The rounds 1-4 params

[civic trellis]

So why is there 2 sets

[manic kiln]

round 5 extra parameters are the same as the previous 4 rounds

[civic trellis]

Ah right

[west loom]

To be clear thr stadium roster is the same until the end of the month right?

[shrewd oyster]

Is Selene any good? I was trying to prep some teams and I'd like a second grass unit to go with my Sycasaur and OG!Skyla set up

I'd put Mallow there but I feel like Mallow and Sycamore would fight too much over gauge

[keen jasper]

Just put a speed buffer for them

[civic trellis]

We can off type this right?

[shrewd oyster]

I think so yeah

[shrewd oyster]

ah okay then I think I'll try out Selene

[frosty axle]

would be stupid if you couldn't

[civic trellis]

Good to know

[frosty axle]

We got a few grass attackers who are useful

[civic trellis]

Ye ill prob be able to do it with brendan sc sonia and maybe ss erika, tho only sonia is EX

[west loom]

Would Gardenia be any good?

[frosty axle]

I personally have a few options

so will see what teams I can build around it

[shrewd oyster]

another dumb question incoming: can Kyurem N off-type (I would assume yes?)

[west loom]

Oh Silver with Ho oh on a sun team using solar beam might be an option?

[shrewd oyster]

That is definitely an option

[frosty axle]

yes definitely just isn't pure grass but works

[shrewd oyster]

Am I cooking

[keen jasper]

She needs sun

[shrewd oyster]

I also have OG Erika that I can use

[keen jasper]

Unless you put Dauntless on her

[frosty axle]

you can probably also poison stall

[west loom]

How does sun effect Gardenia? She doesnt have any solar based moved

[dark osprey]

He can yes. But would be good to bring a nuker and combine with SSN DPS and debuffs

[keen jasper]

Gardenia has Sunny Disposition, which is needed so that Leaf Storm won't lower her Sp. Atk.

Unless like I said, you put Dauntless on her

[west loom]

Is that an sync grid ability? Since i only see speeding sun 2 on passive skills

[shrewd oyster]

fair fair

[keen jasper]

Bottom left

[west loom]

Ok cool i didnt know that. Would you then just ignore the trust in nature?

[keen jasper]

If you have a buffer for her

[west loom]

interesting ok im tooling up some teams now

[swift swan]

Ehhh, if you really want to run ingo and emmet together sure, but other than that there's no need. Having both alder and emmet is already good coverage for sentry/wise entry x2

[swift swan]

[swift swan]

Wow, and we already know the round params beforehand? That's new

[full mesa]

Ok. I'll think about it. None of the new units got my attention, that's why I was thinking about it

[swift swan]

Ingo doesn't synergize too well with most bug types which are generally special-oriented, that's the problem

[west loom]

I am tooling up some teams right now before comitting to anything. Any thoughts?

[full mesa]

I see

[swift swan]

Sure you have his perfect partner already but that's generally it, unless you wanna use noland or guzma or sth

[full mesa]

No.

I'm not a LG player. I reside in CS.

I only have 3 grass strikers/pseudo techs. Off type, here I come.

[tribal agate]

New Master Mode Parameters (with points) : https://pastebin.com/9LVstPZJ

[tribal agate]

i'll update shortly with the missing ones

[zealous karma]

So it is sentry/wise entry x8 ew can’t wait for CMarnie to still clear

Off type

[tribal agate]

i love the 300 for on-type that's such a kick in the stomach for off type min maxers but also so good for newcomers

chaotic neutral

[manic kiln]

i always do on type so Standard Damage Reduction 8 is free 300 points

[toxic cobalt]

How are the stat changes worth 100 points but the no off-type worth 300

[tribal agate]

yeah that's super weird

[toxic cobalt]

There's like 600 free points!!!

[zealous karma]

The off typers will still clear they find a way

[hazy tusk]

What's the other free points

[manic kiln]

welp i guess with SCsteven i'll build a mono normal team now

[zealous karma]

That’s so weird it went from an embedded image to a link

[tribal agate]

300 from the off type thing
50 at least from a pair role you won't take
100 for the damage type you're not picking (special/physical)

[toxic cobalt]

300 for on-type, 100 for wise or sentry entry, 150 for zone/terrain/weather, 50 for interference, dpeending on your teams ofc for the last two

[tribal agate]

yeah there's a bunch of freebies

[toxic cobalt]

If they have no aoe attacks then it's free 100 points for pre-syncs

[zealous karma]

I hate the role x3 damage roles

[tribal agate]

it's not weird it was an image then i put the link instead just to credit properly

[hazy tusk]

Ohh

[toxic cobalt]

And by if they have no aoe attacks I mean if you reset for rng

[zealous karma]

Because my team comps are standard

I see

[toxic cobalt]

If they presync only support matters

[zealous karma]

I like tech striker supp teams

[toxic cobalt]

100 free points if you run my no support teams

[zealous karma]

SSLyra will still solo max points

I hope

[toxic cobalt]

SS Lyra with interference immunity go

[zealous karma]

))))):

Status immunity is so lame

They hate fun

[swift swan]

My grass team already runs no support, this is perfect

[zealous karma]

I either use dawn or Victor so

It’s always typically 2 tech one strike or 2 tech one supp

[swift swan]

5 stats +3 at start is interesting if you're running no stat reduction anyway

But if your multipliers rely on debuffing, ew

Standard dmg reduction 8 is already 300 points just for ontyping, wow this is easy

[dark osprey]

On type with physical or special damage is 400 pts

[civic trellis]

I have to think about my presets I can do one for status conditions, special/physical, off type, tech + 2 supps, strike + 2 supps, and tech + strike + support

Maybe one for zones too

[dark osprey]

Then probably the tech and striker *3 damage

[zealous karma]

Maybe they’ll debuff accuracy so j can get use out of acuity from Calem

[toxic cobalt]

I don't want to give my opponents +3 stats i feel that's pain

[zealous karma]

Same

[civic trellis]

Hmm ill just see what params I use and everytime I change smth ill just make a new one

[swift swan]

+3 stats but bring ss korrina

[zealous karma]

Is it like lucky entry?

What if they have crit buffs

[keen jasper]

So it's 2k parameters + Standard Damage Reduction + Striker and Tech damage increase?

[civic trellis]

Most supports u would have vigilance, atleast I do

[swift swan]

It only raises attack, sp attack, defense, sp defense, and speed. No params to raise crit

If they have crit buffs it'll be from their own TM

[zealous karma]

Head start / Adrenaline from@me@lel

The occasional sentry entry/wise entry

[dark osprey]

Plus physical or special attack

[civic trellis]

Also the tech and strike x3 ones maybe, but thats only 2450

[keen jasper]

What I said wasn't 2.5k?

[dark osprey]

Striker and tech are 50 points

[civic trellis]

I think ill add more attack or more defense to make it 2500

[keen jasper]

Oh, I mathed wrong, it's actually 2.4k

So choose either Physical or Special Damage Reduction for 2.5k

[civic trellis]

Standard dmg + tech/support + physical/special is 450 + ur 2k params

[keen jasper]

Recommended 2k Parameters + Standard Damage Reduction + Striker/Tech Take More Damage + Special or Physical Damage Reduction

[civic trellis]

Standard dmg is 300 striker or tech taking more damage is 50 and special or physical reduction is 100

So u need another 50

[keen jasper]

Why not both Striker/Tech Take More Damage?

[dark osprey]

Yeah maybe better to take both

[swift swan]

A bit risky if there are a lot of AOE moves

But it's fine I suppose

[civic trellis]

Many stages have aoe moves and also sync

[swift swan]

Can't wait to see how my strikers tank the full attack + x3 damage earthquake!

[civic trellis]

So ill just take the old attack/sp atk or defense/sp def up params instead of both striker and tech

[swift swan]

Sync barely matters since presyncing in Cs is so popular. But it's hard to avoid aoe moves

[civic trellis]

Oh well for me I try and pre sync but usually they sync once

[dark osprey]

There's always interference immunity

[civic trellis]

Oh right

[keen jasper]

Seriously tho, Max HP +8 is an absolute blessing for me because I can really try to fully set up my nuke without the worry of killing mid

[full mesa]

Depending on the stage and your strategy either you'll have free points or a hell.

[lost gulch]

wow just seen the parameters

its very creative parameters

[civic trellis]

Good thing its kanto and not sinnoh hoenn or kalos

[full mesa]

Yep. I second that

Both messages

[lost gulch]

like its free 300 points for ss korina

[dark osprey]

Going to take support x3 with piers

[keen jasper]

How much does Max HP +8 give? 400 or 500 pts.?

[lost gulch]

if stealing stat boosts

[full mesa]

Also free standard if you are on type + the opposite shield of your striker.

[lost gulch]

yea

[zealous karma]

I imagine 600

[dark osprey]

Summer Hilda going to be OP

[swift swan]

300 points is already free if you're ontyping

Most older players won't have trouble it seems

[north crown]

when the 12.5k points:

[swift swan]

And if you're new, picking those 300 points when you're ontyping means you can take less strength for 850 points per stage

[swift swan]

Oh huh, there's no max hp 8 here

[prime warren]

Do we get tickets past 10000 pts?

[north crown]

wow some of these parameters are free wtf

[dark osprey]

15 tickets and 10 spirits

[swift swan]

Brendan, ss erika, sycamore horn leech, solar beam silver, and gardenia. You'll be fine (unless they give stat boost to supereffective stats the way EBE does, now we're talking)

[prime warren]

Well 105 tickets is an awkward number
But I'll take it

[hazy tusk]

Am I missing something or does Bertha not have Lessen Poison

For the grass CS

[full mesa]

Brendan is 2/5, Gardenia has no grid. Sycamore is more of a tank. I forgot about Silver.

[prime warren]

Poor bulbasaur

[full mesa]

I count it

Lodge Sycamore is quite powerful

[swift swan]

Brendan should be fine as long as he has dauntless, and at 2/5 he has decent nuke. And you'll have time to grid gardenia

[prime warren]

Oh yea now that I realise

[swift swan]

Yeah, you can use lodge sycamore too

[prime warren]

We have special sync nuke for rock that isn't Roxanne

[swift swan]

Nah, grass is one of the most bloated types, you'll be fine

[full mesa]

SSLyra/Silver/Lodge Sycamore/Brendan???/Filler.

[swift swan]

Sycamore horn leech actually does good numbers

[full mesa]

Yeah. I don't worry.

[swift swan]

Just give him attack and crit buffs

[full mesa]

I know but I'll have to pair him with a physical buffer.

[prime warren]

I am just gonna blast through with offtype as usual

[full mesa]

Like Persian.

[swift swan]

Hop works fine too

[prime warren]

My grass types are shit compared to offtype options

Not having sslyra is

[swift swan]

Wouldn't it be funny if they gave stat boost to grass types

[prime warren]

You think that'd stop my rats

Or frogs

Or snake

[civic trellis]

I think my only limited grass pairs r 1/5 ex ss leaf and 3/5 ex sc sonia

[main crow]

This gonna be fun

[civic trellis]

Maybe ill get victor one day if he’s in a triple banner with someone else I wany

[keen jasper]

I wonder why Bertha deserves SS Lyra

[prime warren]

Coping for scrosa rerun

[swift swan]

Because why not

[main crow]

You had no idea what she puts me through back when Sinnoh CS was still new

[full mesa]

If they do that, Dawn nukes.

[swift swan]

The key to beating bertha is to change weather, generally

You take away her sandstorm and she loses most of her threat

Reminds me of a certain birb i'm bullying in Lg right now, hah

[main crow]

I can't exactly remember if I do that on grass week, think by then I already have SSMorty

I was mostly reminiscing on steel week lmao

Bertha is Bertha, also Cerena doesn't want me to use a special grass so

[mellow linden]

I’m gonna be honest, Bertha was always the most consistently manageable Sinnoh CS member for me

[swift swan]

Same

[main crow]

Not to beginner me back then

[swift swan]

Oh huh satisfied snarl, I just noticed

[dark osprey]

Bertha was quite troubling with head start and AOEs right

[swift swan]

Oh well, it's Rilaboom time

[mellow linden]

That’s fair, she’s not necessarily a newbie-friendly fight

[prime warren]

I don't even remember who one is most annoying other than the one in bottom right, any CS that's the E4 that gives most trouble for me

[swift swan]

AOEs are a given. And she only had head start for steel weak

[swift swan]

Sinnoh CS in general isn't newbie friendly, yeah

[dark osprey]

Yeah. The sand one was ok

[mellow linden]

Huh, all Grass weak for the special CS

Guess I’ll be off-typing at least half of them

[dark osprey]

That's the thing. Off typing 2.5K

[prime warren]

Is the special CS gonna be monthly thing or a rando event that might pop up anytime?

[mellow linden]

The special event CS has Master Mode?

[dark osprey]

Yes

[mellow linden]

Wow

[main crow]

It would appear so from the preview images we have

[swift swan]

We don't know about this yet

[mellow linden]

Guess I’ll have to spread my Grass types out more

[manic kiln]

probably like gauntlet

[mellow linden]

And actually put together a Brendan build

I might need to Poison stall one or 2

[dark osprey]

It's fine still with the OP units since 3 year anniversary

Not that much for newcomers

[swift swan]

CS gauntlet when

[prime warren]

Newcomers won't have 5 teams worth offtype shit

But then

Newbies aren't supposed to hit MM

I doubt 3rd anni alone carries em enuff for 5 teams

[swift swan]

When exactly is a newbie recommended to hit MM anyway depending on your skill, you can be as young as a 2-week player and start working on MM I guess

[prime warren]

Well they can do 800 pts

Won't rly be hard if they invest only on their new toys and legendary units

[dark osprey]

Like by 2 months they could get 2K on the easy regions at least right

[prime warren]

2 months is enuff for newbies to have 3 potent offtype teams

They'd have 120 basically everything in their roster

I doubt anything more than that for offtype is possible
Ontype Defo doable

[manic kiln]

2 months account can hit 10k with some resources management

[swift swan]

Definitely

[dark osprey]

Now. The question is. For offtype what would the 300 or 250 points come from

I guess strength is always there

Or HP/2 for some

[prime warren]

The physical/spl one

That's 100 pts

[dark osprey]

Yeah. True. Those I guess remain the same for off and on

[prime warren]

Yea ontype is 200 pts I think

Or was it 300

[dark osprey]

Yeah 300

[prime warren]

Neat

300 points just for ontype

Boy they rly promote ontype hard

[manic kiln]

well everything except LG is ontype these days

even EBE

[dark osprey]

That's good. Or else it would just be like Ash, Marnie and so on

[prime warren]

Like 500 points from shields+ontype+move type

[dark osprey]

Not that they will not cut it anymore

[prime warren]

I don't like the ontype promotion

[toxic cobalt]

It is weird. Like, you’re incentivised by the on type ness?

[prime warren]

It was my excuse to skip the non fav units from awkward types

[toxic cobalt]

I guess they’re gonna just run rock weak with sentry entry forever alongside CBlue paid Scouts

[swift swan]

Basically the "most used teams" feature

I bet the majority of us forget it exists

[toxic cobalt]

Every now and then I check it to see if my team made it

[dark osprey]

At least they were non favs

[dark osprey]

You're an optimist

[swift swan]

I guess for newer players who don't have a good answer to all types, they have to take off that parameter sometimes

I can ontype every type pretty comfortably now but it took a while

[swift swan]

And what team could that be

[toxic cobalt]

Changes every week and never makes it

[toxic cobalt]

I don’t get this, I was on-typing from the start as offtype was scary

[prime warren]

I still can't ontype some types

Like fairy, poison

And sometimes flying

[mellow linden]

Poison has Roxie + Lucy now, though

And always had Koga

[swift swan]

And what did you use to ontype ground when you were new?

[hazy tusk]

Does everyone in Grass CS have Lessen Poison or do Bertha and Serena not have it

[toxic cobalt]

Clay Sycamore Hop lol

[swift swan]

It took me zerena to ontype ground

[swift swan]

Wasn't clay gridless way back when

[toxic cobalt]

Gridless Clay and gridless Mina were my bros

[prime warren]

I see poison I instantly offtype coz koga refuses to presync clear often times

[toxic cobalt]

Now when two types happened at the same time I stalled

[mellow linden]

Roxie + Lucy then, I pre-Sync with them all the time

[swift swan]

Bertha should have the usual lessen poison 9. Not sure about cerena

[swift swan]

Based

[hazy tusk]

I'm going off the infographic, so I wanted to confirm

[swift swan]

It's not written in the infographic yes

[toxic cobalt]

Well the non-Cerena teams are just the normal stages

[swift swan]

But assuming this bertha is the same as Grass-weak bertha from sinnoh CS, she should have lessen poison 9

[hazy tusk]

Hmm so none of them are particularly poison weak looks like

[swift swan]

Yeah, seems like it

[hazy tusk]

What am I gonna do with Sycabulb lmao

[swift swan]

You can still try poisoning as usual

[hazy tusk]

Mmm at least I can move the sun team over to Bertha

[prime warren]

Sycabulb has ex now

Gonna be some big number ontype nuke now

[grand trout]

What's the rewards for 12.5k?

[toxic cobalt]

[swift swan]

https://pastebin.com/T1NCk9rz

[grand trout]

Oh

I read 5* power up tickets and i thought it's the 5* pus themselves

Disappointing

[toxic cobalt]

It’s very nonessential

Main impact is its much easier to get the 4.2k rewards

[grand trout]

I really wished they made 5 * more accessible given everyone and their mother can be exed now

[manic kiln]

for f2p and low spenders i think it's fine, if they give more we'll hit the spirit gate like dolphins and whales

[candid juniper]

What’re the rewards for 12.5k points? I missed it

[hot shadow]

Some spirits and powerup tickets

[flint verge]

what are good tips for cs? i feel like i have a really good roster just struggle (skill issue) to beat 2k

[keen jasper]

Find synergies for your damage dealer and try to handle the mechanics

[flint verge]

am i allowed if a team sounds good here?

[keen jasper]

Allowed what?

[flint verge]

to ask* sorry

[keen jasper]

Ask away

And tell us which E4 and parameter

[trail smelt]

LMAO 300 points for no off type

SOLD

[proud axle]

This is "we will literally pay you to not use Neo Marnie or the rats on this round"
~~I imagine some people are gonna manage to do it anyway just because they can ~~

[grand trout]

Wait, im dumb

12.5k is equivalent of how many points per round?

Oh it's 2.5k

Do the reduction work like sentry entryx2 of does crit bypass them?

[tired sleet]

I highly doubt it

Considering how passive skills aren’t bypassed by cs2
(And you can’t use passive bypassing things to bypass params)

[grand trout]

You doubt what exactly?

[tired sleet]

That you can bypass the dmg reduction with crits

[grand trout]

Doubt that they're like entry x2 or criy bypass

Ah

Hmmm

I wonder which of these new parameters are good picke

[tired sleet]

Well, it depends on circumstance

[grand trout]

Obviously the 300 points is a no brainer

But idk about the other 200

[tired sleet]

There’s always more strength/attack if needed

[mellow linden]

I think it’ll generally be on-type lock + damage category lock + pick an additional 100 param

[grand trout]

Hmm

[tired sleet]

Also most of the time you can afford either Spec/Phys dmg down

[mellow linden]

With some exceptions here and there

[grand trout]

Maybe i cpuld do with picking ally healing -5

It's 100 points, right)

[tired sleet]

Yes

[grand trout]

How about 5 stats +3? Is that a strong parameter?

[mellow linden]

It could be useful for you depending on your team

For example, with the upcoming SC Zinnia it’ll basically be a no-brainer

[grand trout]

Oh yeah, ss korrina and ss misty will love it

[tired sleet]

The defences and speed are inconsequencial
In older CS where they don’t use many aoe moves, you can take one or both without much issue, but more recent CSs may use that extra attack to wipe your strikes

[grand trout]

The x3 damage could also be good in older cs i think

They don't have much aoe to wipe out your striker

[stray cipher]

These teams look good for the grass cs event?

[tired sleet]

What’s hilbert doing on the lodge sycamore team? Just there for ramming speed?

I’d replace him with a poisoner

[stray cipher]

I mean I added him so I don’t end up with no gauges + flinch

[potent wadi]

This man is NOT cooking!1!1!1

[trail smelt]

Oh right I need to make my grass teams

[stray cipher]

Lol is there any special like deal with it

Or is it just like a normal cs

[tired sleet]

There are slightly different rewards for mm for example

The base stage gives gems

And the mm gives certificates

[trail smelt]

Whoa wait what certificates?

[paper summit]

the only ones that exist

150 cap mats

[trail smelt]

No I know what they are, I didn’t know the Cerena CS event gave them out

[paper summit]

tbh I didn't know either

until now

[tired sleet]

Pasio CS April 2023 stages and rewards:
Master Mode Rewards: https://pastebin.com/3DSwba8W

CS Stages and Stage Rewards: https://pastebin.com/cDi5Xk0D

[old orchid]

Can anyone post the Pasio CS full rewards here?

Thanks Winston

[tired sleet]

[old orchid]

[tame gust]

so, basically speaking you can get roughly one EX a week with 10k MM, yeah?

[old orchid]

Unless you are a whale, no

The new reward milestones give

not

[zealous karma]

~~or you make poor decisions with your ~~

[tame gust]

ahhh. right. right. I was more curious about champion spirits.

like potential I know won't be filled in one week's MM.

[tired sleet]

It does give over 50

[wide adder]

do we know the types for the pasio CS?

nvm, spotted it in pins

oops all GRASS

i guess i need to go make my pasio CS teams

[unborn wedge]

Absol forgot the HP Up 8 option earlier
https://twitter.com/absolutelypm/status/1641256854939394048

👁️‍🗨️ Absol-utely 🔍 (2.31.0 - Server!!!) (@absolutelypm)

I forget this option.

Max HP ↑ 8
Raises the maximum HP of all opposing sync pairs by 80%.
Pts: 400

Twitter · Mar 30, 2023, 1:51 AM

It's on the Pastebin now of course

[wide adder]

Can’t Change Zone, Weather, or Terrain
The user cannot change the weather, terrain, or zone.
Pts: 150
me who literally doesnt do that for most types other than like, electric and fire usually:

[unborn wedge]

Strength Up 1, 2, 3 and 6
Max HP Up 2, 4, 6 and 8
Ally Move Gauge Max -2

All that is exactly 2500 Points lol

[wide adder]

these seem like free points for some teams if they dont use one or the other or do only supports.
similar for support one if its techs and/or strikes only

[unborn wedge]

They're still free points because most stages don't have AOE moves until the Center is KOed

And even if they do, you should be fine.

[wide adder]

i wonder which parameters will become my global go-to default to build from...

r5 param seems evil with ripple satisfied snarl on that whole team...

[tired sleet]

Max HP and strength seems like a nightmare

[wide adder]

...oh god, im scared of whoever here attempts CSerena fight with this ontop of it. thatd need really good teams huh.

[old orchid]

I have all Grass types except Shauna and starter Bulbasaur so the Pasio CS is really easy for me

[tired sleet]

If you have a strong grass nuker idt it’ll be a problem

[wide adder]

my grass dps... Selene, Brendan, Erika, Mallow.

[tired sleet]

What is this silver erasure

[old orchid]

And Gardenia erasure

[tired sleet]

And lodge sycamore but idk if you have him yet

[old orchid]

[wide adder]

sorry i was looking at my pairs with grass syncs

filtering to grass moves gives me this

[old orchid]

Grass dps Palerena

[wide adder]

too bad palerena only has grass status moves

[old orchid]

Thats the point

She stuns them to die

[wide adder]

i dont think my other grass options are gridded so uhh

[civic trellis]

U could always off type

[wide adder]

yeah, i just dunno how hard these are going to be other than the champion. champion serena looks painful

ill prob still see if gladion can handle one of the stages, i just dont have much grass favorite wise yet that i can think of, even if i count unowned units. so it being grass throws me off

[tired sleet]

Cerena doesn’t seem bad as long as you pre sync with a phys strike

[rigid flint]

Damn special/physical damage reduction sounds free if your team’s striker is special or physical

Just choose the opposite one

[dark osprey]

i guess for ontype it would be 300 on type, 100 special/physical, 50 striker/tech damage, 50 striker/tech /no interference

for offtype it would be that 300 would be have to be managed with strength maybe or can get half HP and 100 pts for strength only

for poison stall i guess it would be 300 on type, 100 special damage, 100 physical damage

[tired sleet]

If you already take max attack, the triple strike/tech damage could be dangerous (unless you don’t have any), seeing as a single AOE attack already deals over 25% HP on average to them. Unless its like an older cs that uses few aoe moves

[dark osprey]

There's the flexibility of running two strikers or two tech damage dealers

Plus would recommend the tech *3 generally since they do have decent bulk

I guess there's always the strength filler

[dark osprey]

Will be personally using Piers, Lisia and a few others a bit more now for another 100 points for the support *3 damage

Maybe even Glacia

[vital gazelle]

yeah the new parameters are pretty lenient

should be a pretty easy 12.5k for every cs

do we know the rewards? i assume there’s a pastebin with that info somewhere

[dark osprey]

15 PU tickets and 10 Champion Spirits extra

[vital gazelle]

i’ll take the tickets

expectations were under the ground so even a little more than what i was expecting

[civic trellis]

I think its 20

Nvm thats for the new one I think

[lost gulch]

wait

we are getting 1 yellow candy coin per week

thats insane

basically thats free yellow candy in like 5 months

[old orchid]

the Pasio CS doesnt reset the rewards on every Monday and only stays for 2 weeks

so only 1 yellow coin per run

[lost gulch]

oh

so 2 yellow coins?

oh wait so its only 1

[full mesa]

1 per month if they keep it like Battle Villa

Meaning 12 per year + all the other we get

[spring fable]

do we know if the point milestone reward will cap at 12500 pts too?

[wide adder]

It’s always 5 x the stage reward cap

So yeah

[dusty path]

Ooo so it is increasing :}

[swift swan]

Enjoy the you whales

[trail smelt]

Ready for next week woo

Not sure about my monograss teams though

Maybe switch Erika and Lyra

[dark osprey]

wow. that's some grass roster that u've got

[swift swan]

Finally, full monotype

Dena making the first monotype CS weak to grass to tell us to touch grass

[dark osprey]

just the SS Leaf team doesn't have any buffs i guess

[swift swan]

Sycamore can self buff crit

But it takes a while

[dark osprey]

yeah and SS Leaf can do better damage if given some buffs i guess

[swift swan]

That'd depend on her move level

[dark osprey]

ah true

[stray cipher]

Bro the new parameters make this so much harder

I don’t know if 2.5 is even possible

[dark osprey]

for regular CS it would be quite similiar to 2K itself

just harder offtyping maybe

[stray cipher]

Yep

[swift swan]

It's actually rather easy I think

[stray cipher]

300 from using se is nice

[swift swan]

If you're ontyping,it's free 300 points

[stray cipher]

Also I know people have probably have asked this 1000 times but what are the extra rewards we get

[swift swan]

If you're not running zone/weather/terrain, more free points

[swift swan]

Just more and

[stray cipher]

How much

[dark osprey]

i guess u can switch the Lyra from the brendan team with the erika on SS Leaf

[swift swan]

https://t.co/hYuceaChZ2

Oh wait nevermind, we get a candy coin and certificate of excellence, apparently

[dark osprey]

for the special CS right?

[swift swan]

Thank you dena, I need more candies since you started adding 4/5 and 5/5 grid expansions

[stray cipher]

Yeah that’s the special event

Is it the same for regular cs?

[swift swan]

https://pastebin.com/T1NCk9rz

Here we go, regular cs

[dark osprey]

for offtyping with rush paramaters including -2/-3 sync countdown & full attack params, what new params would be good for the extra 500 pts?

[old orchid]

The standard damage reduction (if ontype) + phys/spe dmg reduction + strike/tech or both takes x3 dmg

[stray cipher]

He said offtype

But ok

Cause that’s not gonna help you that’s gonna make your life miserable

[old orchid]