yeah. they do be like zone setters
#Champion Stadium
proud axle
Wonder if Roark's buff needs can be solved with just Ingo. Then I could have Olivia+Roark+Ingo for maximum Rock shenanigans
dark osprey
yeah it would
proud axle
Sweet. I should try it this week just to see how funny the numbers can get
Roark isn't a fave or anything, I just really like a good underdog story or zero-to-hero comeback
dark osprey
hehe sure. for folks with SS Diantha it may be better of SS Diantha, Roark & any crit/attack buffing support i guess
sinful garden
austere quest
Woah does Grimsley increase the chance of Para proccing or something? I lost at least 6 rounds to it and almost lost because of it.
Even though I killed Grimsley Pre Sync
proud axle
I don't think it's Grimsley
I think it's the round you're choosing to fight him on
Round 1 gives Paralyze/Confuse an increased chance to make moves fail
Round 4 gives an increased chance for Paralyze to be inflicted in the first place
dark osprey
Also Grimsley uses thunder wave which almost guarantees paralysis
Maybe also has troublemaker
proud axle
Nah, he's going to be stuck with the 90% hitrate on Thunder Wave unless he gets really lucky and spawns with Acc
He has X Acc All but he doesn't use it until after Thunder Wave
keen jasper
Unless you flinch him
swift swan
x accuracy all is a trainer move, he will use it even if you flinch him
thunder wave can be flinched though
onyx ice
Not that hail or sand are that strong
Very few units make good use of them
Isn't like sun or rain that's a flat 1.5x multiplier for any unit with fire or water moves
Sand only activates multipliers for the units that have them
At least hail makes blizzard sure hit
proud axle
There are quite a few Rock units with Surging Sand, at least
Even SSBrock has it now
Kukui has it innate but who even uses Kukui
onyx ice
Yes but most of them have ss 3, so isn't worth slotting sand unless the sand setter is ingo
proud axle
That's the thing. Weather setting on the support
Ingo is overpowered for reasons largely unrelated to sand so that "helps"
onyx ice
But even with Ingo, sand is far from being overpowered
dark osprey
the role compression helps
onyx ice
At least compared to rock zone, sand is a poor boost for rock types
proud axle
Sand isn't powerful
Putting sand on the support to free up a team slot is powerful
It means I can run a wholeass second Rock attacker
One to rock, one to roll
onyx ice
On the other hand, SS diantha is great even in non rock physical teams
dark osprey
Similarly Ingo is kinda nice for any double striker team as well
onyx ice
AOE -2 def debuffs, bundled with a really strong 2 gauge DPS move is pretty busted
hollow night
Hi i need help with grimsley, what team I can use ?
proud axle
Hi i need help with grimsley, what team I can use ?
First question is... Hard mode or master mode?
hollow night
Master
proud axle
Alright, let's see what we have here
Looks like Burgh is the only on-type 5star attacker on your roster, unless I'm missing someone
At that point I think I'd rather just offtype the fight
Enemy offense is... mixed, leaning slightly special, but has a phys sync
austere quest
Carnie is probably the best unit you have for offtyping
proud axle
I don't see Lyra/Meganium here or I'd have suggested trying her with SSErika and Burgh
hollow night
I don't have lyra
proud axle
Burgh can grid for a big damage bonus in sun, and Lyra can block the Thunder Wave in sun
proud axle
I don't have lyra
Oof. Maybe gonna have to do this another way then
proud axle
If you have massive gauge income, perhaps.
But let's make sure you don't need her in another fight first
austere quest
Or does she need 3/5 to effectively Clear?
proud axle
Marnie has 700 hecking SpAtk from her passive, I think she'll be fine even at 1/5
Just from massive brute force
austere quest
What’s the round we are at @hollow night ?
hollow night
Round 3
proud axle
Entry Reflect, huh... that means probably no quadqueue
austere quest
Who’s left?
proud axle
(Both in terms of remaining bosses and "who have you used up so far")
austere quest
Oh oof
No ability to offtype with Carnie then
Must have done Marshall and someone else
proud axle
Hard to tell who the other was, since... marnie
austere quest
Sonia is good tank
proud axle
This also means we can't use Sycamore to cure the Thunder Wave
austere quest
Yeah
proud axle
Who was the other boss you defeated?
hollow night
Let me restart and do with sycamore
proud axle
...Guh, we also can't use Melony to Safeguard the Thunder Wave
hollow night
Marshall and shauntal
austere quest
Yup
proud axle
Water... doesn't everyone have a really powerful Water attacker in Cyrus
proud axle
That's okay, Cyrus is still uber strong
proud axle
Yeah, either use her to add rain or use Nessa to add more Water attacks
But Cyrus is so strong that it might actually be better to use Winona
hollow night
Yes Winona it's Best for this
proud axle
If you wanna get really weird, I think it's possible to do Cyrus + Nessa + Winona all together
All three have self speed
Cyrus and Nessa have self crit and Atk/SpAtk
I'm not sure who would be Target 1. Maybe Nessa because she literally has a turtle? 
You could also just... make a normal team
But this team sounds funny.
onyx ice
Nessa has vigilance on grid, but winona has def buffs
Definitely Cyrus will be target 3
proud axle
Yeah, he's going to hurt himself with his TM for the SpAtk and Speed
hollow night
Yes cyrus for 3
proud axle
Hm, Shauntal's offense is entirely Special until the boss goes down, at which point the sidekicks start using Earthquake
That means Winona's +Def buff does not help until it's hitting everyone at the same time anyway
But she has better SpDef
Maybe Winona should tank after all.
Or maybe you should just make a normal team instead of chasing this ridiculous idea I had
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Oh wrong channel sorry pls delete
magic crown
keen jasper
My very first F2P clear ever
If this was Sinnoh, Hoenn or Kalos then I would've been in such a bad time
proud axle
D'you think the Marshal fight would've been easier with Janine/Ariados in one of the tanks' slots for Venom Drench?
frosty axle
If this was Sinnoh, Hoenn or Kalos then I would've been in such a bad time
gratz F2P of those isn't that hard
keen jasper
I'm practicing how to do F2P teams for CS for my 1-year of being here
proud axle
I think I'd swap out whichever tank might've been handier to have in another fight, but that's a tricky question itself
compact yoke
So I got the Quadra queue in, but I messed up later on. Could u help me figure out where I messed up
toxic cobalt
You messe dup by playing on speed 3
keen jasper
So I got the Quadra queue in, but I messed up later on. Could u help me figure o...
You didn't queue Glacia on T5
nocturne pawn
bro grimsley is fucking cheating
compact yoke
You messe dup by playing on speed 3
Nah I always play speed 3
compact yoke
You didn't queue Glacia on T5
Ahhh alright
nocturne pawn
lucky entry rolled evasion missed beam twice then landed paralysis then got full paralysis twice in a row
toxic cobalt
Nah I always play speed 3
Well it caused you to miss a queue. You're clicking very slowly if you want to play speed 3.
compact yoke
Well it caused you to miss a queue. You're clicking very slowly if you want to p...
Lmao I only had one hand on my phone cuz I was eating
compact yoke
You didn't queue Glacia on T5
Was turn 5 right after my sync?
Trying to look at video and it shows turn 4 is my sync, and turn 5 I queued a move right after
toxic cobalt
Your powder snow isn't queued on time
compact yoke
Aight I’ll look again
keen jasper
Oops
keen jasper
Was turn 5 right after my sync?
When Shauntal's sync CD is at 3
nocturne pawn
wait does r1 modifier affect chances for confusion and paralysis
or is it just move effects
nocturne pawn
does r1 increase full paralysis and confusion procs
compact yoke
When Shauntal's sync CD is at 3
Ahhh I see now
Do yamper or kris and feraligator interrupt Quadra queue
Did it on 1x speed and it wouldn’t allow me first try so just wondering
keen jasper
Do yamper or kris and feraligator interrupt Quadra queue
Sonia interrupts quadqueue unless you give her Adrenaline 1
swift swan
R1 affects paralysis, not sure about confusion
I think "are more likely to take effect" means you're more likely to hit yourself in confusion/get fully paralyzed
toxic cobalt
I think so too, but refuse to say anything solid about status effects and status conditions and all other twisted words DeNa uses
swift swan
true
nocturne pawn
i swear to god the right side queued confuse ray twice in a row
after grimsley and its so fucking cringe
keen jasper
nocturne pawn
i wanted to test alder
ive gotten close
but the sides kept rolling evasion on lucky entry
SOMEHOW
swift swan
hyper beam just goes brrrr
swift swan
but the sides kept rolling evasion on lucky entry
well damn
nova galleon
Plz guide me for off type teams......
nocturne pawn
ss steven cerena and i think hop zapdos is a free win for any stage this week
keen jasper
Plz guide me for off type teams......
Question is:
What stage and what round?
nova galleon
Question is:
What stage and what round?
For bug and poison
nova galleon
Question is:
What stage and what round?
Round 3 and 4
nocturne pawn
ss steven and cerena delete anything they come across
keen jasper
Round 3 and 4
Well Marshal for 3 and Grimsley for 4
nova galleon
For rock which support should I use with Olivia
keen jasper
For rock which support should I use with Olivia
A sandstorm setter and an attack/crit supporter
swift swan
Plz guide me for off type teams......
next time you can just filter for your 5* units (we assume you have most if not all the low rarity ones) and from the move level tab. or use the sync pair tracker so you can just update that
+tracker
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swift swan
A sandstorm setter and an attack/crit supporter
I see EX Hilbert, I think he's perfect
acerola/hilbert/olivia is my go-to rock team for a long time
swift swan
I wish I had ingo too 
keen jasper
nova galleon
Plz guide me for off type teams......
Best supp to use with frogs
nocturne pawn
they’re fine together
calem finishes serena’s buffs sets rain or dark zone depending on what you need
ig just use like lucian for debuffs and speed
subtle forge
Best supp to use with frogs
Could add a dark or water damage dealer depending on what type you’re focusing on
nova galleon
I am not able to defeat Alder.
nova galleon
thats a good team for it
Which Parameters?
nocturne pawn
pre sync
onyx ice
Gordie max move is pretty strong
proud axle
T h e I c e A g e I s O v e r
tame gust
Gonna be messing around with MM when I get off work today. So, imma guess the teams I used for the rounds won’t be as effective with MM mods on?
shell spade
Trying to clear Chantel with over 1k, don't want to use my sun zard team, saving that for the last boss to get as many points as I can.
At first I was thinking about a water team, focused on my Swampert as a damage dealer, Blastoise for gauge recovery, and alakazam to get the special attack to max, but it's survivability doesn't seem to be that great.
I know that 2k is off the chart, but I feel like 1k is doable. I don't have resources to soak into mons, but since I have until the end of the week, I am looking for advice to see who to put resources into.
My other option I can think of out of my current mons is to go with a dragon team, 3/5 Raihan and 1/5 Lucus. As the stadium is boosted secondary effects, perhaps I could abuse the flinch chance with Raihan and the spec Def debuffing Lucus to achieve a decent score? The air damage though seems to always be a huge pain in survivability though
I know I should probably get may to 135 first, but I don't have the exp books yet, so I'm waiting for tomorrow when I can farm them
proud axle
saving that for the last boss to get as many points as I can.
I see Olivia 2/5 so she is probably better for the Champion
shell spade
> saving that for the last boss to get as many points as I can.
I see Olivia 2/...
Should I save flygon as a sandstorm setter for her then, focus on leveling her and use the charizard team for this?
proud axle
I'm not sure I'd call May/Sabrina/Blue a well-formed party
Sabrina contributes almost nothing
tame gust
I need to finish my May grid. Gotta get a few more orbs in her, but she’s nearly there. Also I was wrong. I thought I got Olivia but I didn’t. Was dumb
tame gust
Is this vanilla palk or boosted palk?
proud axle
Doesn't matter. Water + Rain + Critstrike 9
tame gust
Ah true
shell spade
It's the unboosted, I think. I haven't been through an event yet
So I should use palkia, Swampert and who else in this team?
shell spade
Sycamore I was thinking of saving for the champion fight, but I could potentially use him here to get a bigger score than I originally thought I could
Is palkia at 130 good for this, I don't have any of the silver dragon books, used them to get Raihan and Lucus to 140
proud axle
You have Olivia 2/5, I'm not sure Sycamore is helpful to her
Bruh, CSMM is winnable at 100
Level-up gains drop off considerably after 100
shell spade
CSMM?
proud axle
Champion Stadium Master Mode
I've won a Champion fight with a member at, like, 93 once
shell spade
Alright so I'll try and use my sync orbs this week to get palkias grid active
proud axle
Not because I was out of books but because I was too lazy to use them (before the menus were streamlined)
And it was 2k
shell spade
And then I'll use him with Swampert to get that stage down
Should I use Hilbert then for the champion battle?
proud axle
Palkia can make do with just this much
proud axle
Should I use Hilbert then for the champion battle?
Which Hilbert? There are at least three
proud axle
Yeah, that works great for Olivia
Then she needs a sandstorm source: Flygon (Anniv.Raihan), Palossand(Acerola), or Hippowdon(Bertha)
Excadrill(Ingo) would be the king, but I'm not sure you have him
shell spade
Nah I don't have him, I'll go with flygon then, should I go full sandstorm build with flygon then
Like the extended duration, the sync minus
proud axle
I have no idea. I don't have Flygon
I used Palossand most of the time because Acerola can get Aggravation 1 (60% flinch chance for Astonish) on her 1/5 grid
That can buy you time/turns
shell spade
Sweet, got you. I'll go with a flinch sandstorm grid then.
proud axle
Flygon might actually be better, I just don't know how it works
shell spade
This for the Chantel team fight, right
proud axle
This for the Chantel team fight, right
Yeah, after rearranging the Tactics that looks good
shell spade
Thanks for the help, I'll try and gather the sync orbs for palkia and Olivia then. I think the others have at least half their grids fills
Filled
proud axle
Olivia needs a nearly-full grid build to do her work. Though you can skip Amped Up 2 if you bring a lot of Speed support to fuel her Inertia
(Amped Up 2 just allows her to max Inertia on her own)
nocturne pawn
wait she has amped up 2
shell spade
Do you think I could do that with 6 days worth of dailies?
nocturne pawn
bruhh
shell spade
As well as the palkia?
proud axle
Do you think I could do that with 6 days worth of dailies?
I have no idea
shell spade
Rip, might as well try lmao
shell spade
Worst comes to worst I can just Sun-zard nuke the Chantel stage
proud axle
Worst comes to worst I can just Sun-zard nuke the Chantel stage
...Doesn't Shauntal use Fire moves? That could, err, backfire
nocturne pawn
she does
shell spade
I do, at 2
proud axle
I do, at 2
Awesome, if it's her, then Cyrus can skip Hydro Pump acc
shell spade
So Cyrus, Leaf, and Swampert?
proud axle
This is way cheaper
proud axle
So Cyrus, Leaf, and Swampert?
Yes, and Leaf syncs first. She can be gridless for this
There's good stuff in her grid but you can save orbs for now
shell spade
Brilliant. I think I already have quite a few orbs shoved into her, I'll focus on palkia then
proud axle
It'd go something like
Cyrus TM, Tackle, May TM
Cyrus Spatial Rend, Tackle, May TM
Cyrus Spatial Rend, Tackle, Rain Dance
Leaf Sync, Cyrus Hydro Pump (spam), Muddy Water (spam)
The Spatial Rends are fishing for crits for his Crit Focus 2 to do its work
shell spade
Thank you for your help.
@proud axle sorry, one more thing. I just checked and I have the mats to ex one more mon.
From the resources I've read, supports are, the majority of the time, the best to ex because of the double buff, should I EX leaf?
proud axle
Leaf is a good choice, sure
Alternatively you could EX a striker with a powerful sync nuke, such as Olivia
I'd favor Leaf though
void wyvern
Okay. Few questions. What move level is Aaron and what round is this?
magic crown
Do my teams look good for next cs reset
proud axle
It's Unova, it's easy
weak sleet
Can Emma clear the poison weak stage at 2k this week? Also what are good pairs to go with her?
grand trout
Absolutely
Goodstuff supports which augment her stats and provide buffs will do, like sonia or aaron
weak sleet
Oh I didn't think of those, I was thinking stuff like Lucy or Koga.
grand trout
She's a striker so she can singlehandedly do the heavy work
All she needs are supports
void wyvern
Emma just needs someone to provide +2 attack and +2 speed if you’re 3/5
weak sleet
She's just 1/5 unfortunately can she still do it?
void wyvern
Absolutely
grand trout
Yes ofc
void wyvern
1/5 Emma only has problems with off type. Otherwise she does her job on type just fine.
grand trout
I cleared that stage with plumeria, and emma is leagues better than her
void wyvern
I cleared that stage with Jessie. Emma is a major major step up.
grand trout
Yeah but it's unova cs, i figured why not let loose a little
void wyvern
Plumeria was our only option for a long long time. She clears content.
onyx ice
Roxie now is better
weak sleet
I cleared that stage with Jessie. Emma is a major major step up.
Isn't Jessie like horrible, I have never used her.
void wyvern
Isn't Jessie like horrible, I have never used her.
No grid. Poor stats, poor setup, one multiplier.
onyx ice
Isn't Jessie like horrible, I have never used her.
Yes she's terrible
grand trout
If a "horrible" pair like jessie can clear marshal, emma will absolutely sweep it out the bag
weak sleet
Gotcha thanks!
hollow night
Hi i need help with shauntal
void wyvern
Let’s take a look at what you’ve got.
onyx ice
Jessie is probably slightly better than striker arbok eggmon
void wyvern
First things first. What round is this and is this Master mode?
weak sleet
The other pairs shouldn't be bad, since I have the rats, frogs, Genesect, and Diancie.
So they should all die fairly quickly
void wyvern
I see 3/5 Anni Lillie in the corner. What team are you using?
hollow night
Master
onyx ice
For poison weak i used SS Giovanni + Allister so it went down pretty easily
hot shadow
Shauntal is water-weak this week
hot shadow
Caitlin is Electric-weak
grand trout
annilillie can clear shauntal with right supports anyways
void wyvern
Lmao. So Joey is clearly a dummy.
hollow night
~~annilillie can clear shauntal with right supports anyways~~
Um
void wyvern
Use Cyrus, Support sync, and Winnona.
grand trout
I want to recommend that sharpedo but it's only 1/5
void wyvern
Cyrus hydro pump will clean up no problem.
grand trout
Oh yeah cyrud
hollow night
Ok i Will try
grand trout
Forgot he's a water striker too lol
void wyvern
Let us know if you need any more help!
grand trout
I'll use him for dragon next week, i haven't used him in a while
void wyvern
On type dragon dps works well. Off type, hydro pump is the way to go.
grand trout
never used him for water weak ever
void wyvern
first for everything
grand trout
I already cleared shauntal with lyssandre
onyx ice
Definitely the best f2p water dps
grand trout
I thought that was tech gyara
onyx ice
Tech gyara had low attack stat
grand trout
Ahh
onyx ice
Striker gyara hits much harder if you can provide rain
But i think Cyrus still hits harder than gyara
onyx ice
Gyara has high BP, but i think no multipliers
Cyrus has lower BP but insane multipliers
grand trout
Do you guys use Cyrus' tm
onyx ice
Yes
tired sleet
Yes, unless i have someone who can max his offences and speed
onyx ice
For presync hurting yourself isn't a bad deal
grand trout
Huh. I remember someone up here recommending not to use it
tired sleet
Cyrus has lower BP but insane multipliers
Gyara benefits more from SS Kris, but that’s mighty whaley 
void wyvern
Yes Cyrus Hydro pump is stronger than Gyra hyper beam
void wyvern
Huh. I remember someone up here recommending not to use it
Using Roxanne as an alternative isn’t a bad idea.
onyx ice
Gyara benefits more from SS Kris, but that’s mighty whaley <:TabithaHehe:9980427...
Yes if you can add master passives and smun Gyarados gets the lead
latent eagle
How’s this for CS MM and is there an order i should do the rounds?
grand trout
Not shauntal for r2 and r4
void wyvern
Doing Marshal round 2 is a good idea.
tired sleet
Should be fine, just watch out in case alder uses hyper beam before sycamore can sync
onyx ice
Every high BP, no multipliers units can get an huge advantage from stuffs like champion bede
tired sleet
Hmm, just realized every support with both smun and pmun is a master fair
grand trout
Has anyone tried roark on alder this week
tired sleet
It should work
onyx ice
Hmm, just realized every support with both smun and pmun is a master fair
Sad holiday jasmine noises
void wyvern
Has anyone tried roark on alder this week
Might I show you something funny?
grand trout
Sure
void wyvern
paper summit
Hmm, just realized every support with both smun and pmun is a master fair
Aaron can do that too, only once tho
grand trout
Lol that's me and elesa this week
latent eagle
So shauntal (and i think Caitlin) are a no good for r2 and shauntal isn’t good for r4 and marshal is good for r2 but other then that it doesn’t matter?
grand trout
I cleared the last unit with wild charge but the recoil made me faint
Don't care, still won
void wyvern
So shauntal (and i think Caitlin) are a no good for r2 and shauntal isn’t good f...
Should be good.
onyx ice
Has anyone tried roark on alder this week
Wanted to, but ended up using gordie
grand trout
Oh i thought he's more of a pseudofire with tar shot
onyx ice
Oh i thought he's more of a pseudofire with tar shot
He can nuke with max flare too
onyx ice
Flame charge
His DPS is pretty bad, but his nuke is pretty solid
Plus is a great utility for fire comps
He can provide fire rebuff and one instance of sun
grand trout
Are he and olivia our only general rocks
onyx ice
Kukui too if you don't count stuffs like roark
onyx ice
I feel more like kukui is a great utility for physical comps/second dps
grand trout
But not nukes?
void wyvern
tate rock dps incoming
latent eagle
Mmm torchic/may/psymisty ain't doing much... I'm doing pre-sync parameters
mellow linden
Is Cyrus not available?
latent eagle
He is I just forgot about him 
tired sleet
You should post your clears in #1010274591601598555 and make a forum there
hollow night
Yes I Will do a forum
tame gust
does toxic stall still win out in MM vs Marshal Round 1? Party is Lucy, Janine/Dos, and Aaron. Aaron is 2/5. If so, what sort of enemy buffs can I put on for 2k and not wish death upon myself?
tired sleet
It definitely should; i won with Tech Zubat, Wallace, and Mesprit for a themed clear
There’s a stall param example in the pins, but generally you want max Def/HP with all shields and a little strength
tame gust
ahh, right right. Yeah, I figured that to be the case.
calm grove
was bp janine kicked out cus why doiesnt she get ninja family theme
also im trying to toxic stall with janine bp janine and i was using jasmine
i can kill main guy vyt sides get me
tired sleet
Replace BP Janine with Lucy
swift swan
Bp janine is more of an evasion tank, I don't think using her to tank toxic stall stages will be easy
Lucy, janine, and a self sustainable tank
Someone with reliable healing
tired sleet
Jasmine would be good if she was 3/5 and had recuperation
calm grove
pallow migh work
tame gust
Got annoyed with Catalin laming me out and brought in Sycamore.. forgetting that I needed him on Shantel. Totally ruined my run doing that mistake so gotta reset rip
zealous karma
Why do you need sycamore for shauntal? I imagine crit focus Cyrus Winona Skyla would work fine on the stage and for electric Hau a SpDef debuffer or terrain + a special crit buffer would work
tame gust
oh right, Hau DOES exist.
Bleh. I'm in dire need of sync orbs to make some good grids. dies
my original team for elec weak was BP Surge, N, and Luxray. Sadly, I didn't have the damage to nuke down Sigilyph before his sync hit and Zek dies to sync blast
void wyvern
What move level is Zek?
tame gust
1/5
void wyvern
Is he ex’d?
tame gust
2/5. Do have Hop.
void wyvern
Hop will work.
Set up using Hop’s tm. You’ll need tm refresh.
With Zekrom do TM, Bolt strike, TM sync.
tame gust
so I've got Volkner 3/5, Zekrom 1/5, and Hop 5/5. Hop's gridded. I think I've got all I can node on N filled. Volkner grid yeah?
void wyvern
With Luxray, do Thunder fang, electric terrain, Thunder fang.
Having electric terrain up for the first bolt strike will help a lot.
Volkner shouldn’t need a grid. He’s just here to provide terrain and possible flinches.
tame gust
N can't EX atm. not enough PUs or Champ spirits.
tame gust
yeah, speed is gonna be the main hurt.
if I had hilbert 3/5 I'd use him over hop but alas, that's not the world we're in.
toxic cobalt
No Surgechu?
tame gust
nah, 1/5 surgechu
void wyvern
Surgechu may be better here if you have the candies.
zealous karma
Better than hop?
tame gust
Surgechu gets nuked from one special attack. then again most of my characters are 120/125
void wyvern
Why don’t we try Hop/N/Volkner and see how it goes.
If it falls flat we’ll come up with a different solution
zealous karma
Surgechu gets nuked from one special attack. then again most of my characters ar...
He does tend to do that hop is much bulkier than him and has potions to boot
toxic cobalt
Better than hop?
Speed buffs
zealous karma
I hate using a 2 bar for gauge. 🐴
tame gust
That's why I was saying if I had orbs I could grab Volkner's terrain speed and mpr but yeah, speed is where things just fall apart it would seem. The elec weak fight was on round 3, so not sure what difference that makes in the long run
void wyvern
It messes with quad queue but otherwise it doesn’t impact.
zealous karma
That's why I was saying if I had orbs I could grab Volkner's terrain speed and m...
I don’t have NZekrom but I’ll try and post like a reference thingy
void wyvern
I tested N zekrom. (Although mine is ex). Bolt strike damage can shred mid and his sync is hitting about 9k on mid.
toxic cobalt
N power
zealous karma
Hau can this be 🐴
tame gust
well, it worked on 1500. 2k pre-sync point build up however she got the upper hand and nuked me with her sync.
zealous karma
I cannot wait for mchic expandion
tame gust
oh yeah, that's gonna be grand.
zealous karma
4 lomg waiting days
swift swan
There’s also this limited champion stadium thing
Oh yeah, this
toxic cobalt
Event?
swift swan
this is from the last dev letter
that's cool, I forgot this is next update
at least that's something to look forward to
eternal lodge
hoping its as good as next week for ontype
dark osprey
oh nice. so they are back to promoting offtypes
wide adder
Took a peek at next week and… ruhroh @ dragon and ground same week, my zerena gotta choose haha
Haven’t entirely decided who I’ll move around / drop from teams yet, I just tossed options onto my board to figure out later
dark osprey
Non support clear is a decent theme
tame gust
hmm. trying to think what team to go at Aldar with. I know he's rock weak but most of my rock dps units aren't too good. highest rock damage I've got open to me is probably Roark since he's got his grid filled.
old orchid
so Roark + a crit/atk support + def debuffer
tame gust
yup seems like it.
I'm thinking Roark with either BP Chu or Kiawe and the Def down maybe Colress?
sadly both Kiawe and Colress are 1/5
old orchid
can you show your support roster?
tame gust
sure.
Leaf, Sycamore, Aaron and Hop are unusable atm.
old orchid
i saw Phoebe
tame gust
yeah I do have her.
old orchid
you can try Piers as well
tame gust
that could work. I'll see what happens. the defense debuff is where my main worries lie.
old orchid
i think team sustainability is more important, since Alder has Hyper Beam
can try Piers / Misty / Roark first
wait
you have Hilbert????
tame gust
yeah I just got him to 3/5
old orchid
so use him instead of Piers
tame gust
hmm, he's got four possible grids. AT/Defense crush or Full Tank?
old orchid
Full tank
tame gust
also, wait, why Misty? for evasion and heal support?
dark osprey
also special defense buffs
tame gust
oh right, hyper beam is special lmao
dark osprey
can take endurance on Hilbert just in case
part of the full tank grid
also there's this annoying heat wave that Alder may use once in a while
to manage Roark's recoil, can try using his sync to take more of the HP from the centre
tame gust
won. sittin at 8k points for this week. I might reset later and try to build up for 10k.
tame gust
actually I think I went the full 2k with Grimsley because Carnie. I mixed and matched points.. Odd how the game doesn't keep track of how many points you got on fights lol
I only put Alder at 1k because I wasn't sure on this team's strength.
dark osprey
Oh. Alder is quite easy with a gridded Roark. May need some healing
Not an issue of damage but too much of it
tame gust
yeah, which is why I was thinking of bringing a potion user. Though, if I can kill middle fast enough then I probably wouldn't need ramp as much. (I say though I know imma get bodied if I test that theory)
dark osprey
If you have hop to spare it would be nice I guess
tame gust
yeah, but I used him for Elec weak because of the buffs for zekki
tame gust
true. I gotta play around with my comps some.
zinc island
Champion stadium this week was quite easy for me how was everyone's?
tame gust
Not a problem. just gotta get uncowardly and go for the big 10k
full mesa
swift swan
Not a problem. just gotta get uncowardly and go for the big 10k
Sometimes the only thing between you and 10k is a leap of faith!
10k does feel daunting if you're not used to it but it's so fun and satisfying once you reach it. The dopamine rush 
Don't rush yourself though, do it at your own pace and we'll be here to help
upbeat dragon
i think team sustainability is more important, since Alder has Hyper Beam
I used ssa cynthia for that since alder usually uses hyper beam first move and her damage guard blocks it
A little unconventional but worked for me
tame gust
I've heard that 8k's not too bad for a new player, so that helps me feel better about it. Might shoot for 10k after I try some rounds in gauntlet.
zealous karma
for a brand new player I personally would recommend up to 4.2K depending on how lucky they were with their 5* roster
8k is still pretty high
paper summit
and a bit on the pointless side, even for us lol
we do 10k because we can
but the rewards are not that interesting to begin with
tame gust
my goal was to just do 7.5k for orbs and such.. Though damn I wish I had more Champion souls.
zealous karma
I do 10K for the added challeneg but 10K is easy for me so i usually do themea
paper summit
however, if you can push your roster then that's good, go for it
zealous karma
to challenge myself
tame gust
rewards aren't that exciting for long-term players but for newbies it feels pretty good.
paper summit
I just wish some newbies would stop thinking they'll die IRL when tackling the hard content
being afraid is just... odd
tame gust
unrelated to this, but I die a little irl any time I see Kanto Moltres on my screen.
zealous karma
I wish a certain pichu would stop dying and cryng irl when something is vaguely difficult
paper summit
let's be real, you just like drama
zealous karma
true!
paper summit
unrelated to this, but I die a little irl any time I see Kanto Moltres on my scr...
tbf Moltres is a pita, even with good units it can go south with bad timing/mistakes/bad rng
zealous karma
I still find cresselia difficult
paper summit
ngl I don't remember much how that battle goes other than major details like the buffs and her sure crit Hyper Beam because DeNA never puts her on a Gauntlet
toxic cobalt
True PMEX legend also wrong janine which makes it better
tired sleet
Wdym, they’re just having a crobat bonding time
old orchid
Missed chance not to use 3 Crobat
bright furnace
Eggmom crobat when 
minor mauve
yeah but the levels are a bit low
minor mauve
how'd they survive all the attacks
zealous karma
I used to stall with an almost near similar team
+6 defenses I presume and potions
bright furnace
Poison stall 
tame gust
Yeah no 2k stall is perfectly possible at 120. Granted I used a different group. But surviving hits wasn’t too bad even when defenses weren’t at the initial buffs
minor mauve
i see
toxic cobalt
Koga evasion hax
swift swan
Also swimmisty has synchro healing
forest thunder
Seriously struggling in these two with 1.5k parameters set
old orchid
what teams are you going to use?
keen jasper
Seriously struggling in these two with 1.5k parameters set
Do Grimsley round 3 because most of his attacks are physical
forest thunder
what teams are you going to use?
I’ve used my strongest of these types and nothing works so idk at this point
I can show what I have left
old orchid
go ahead
forest thunder
old orchid
can you filter out your used units?
forest thunder
can you filter out your used units?
I did
forest thunder
what move level iss your Sonia?
Idk the trainer names sorry 😅 wh ich pokemon
old orchid
so use Red / Marley / Guzma on Grimsley
only use Marley's TM when Grimsley uses Thunder Wave
forest thunder
Which snorlax or charizard
old orchid
Snorlax
forest thunder
Okay cool
neon kiln
I did it
With 2/5 olivia gridded, 2/5 raihan partial grid, and gridlesd redlax
I took added effect and spam twister with raihan for aoe flinch
My 2nd 10k
grand trout
Yay
keen jasper
Where's My Water Gear?
swift swan
Eventually
calm grove
how do u beat caitlin 😭😭
frozen depotBOT
fiery rivet
I can’t fricking kill shauntal
toxic cobalt
Hau could this be
toxic cobalt
Ah yes. Best not to let her do that.
toxic cobalt
What is the team?
zealous karma
Cant kill hee in time
Do you have Cyrus Winona and Rosa available?
After a support ex buff Cyrus should clear the stage freely
keen jasper
I can’t fricking kill shauntal
Water is very stacked, TF you mean?
dark osprey
shauntal electric right
keen jasper
shauntal electric right
Caitlin
dark osprey
oh my bad
zealous karma
Cyrus is really good what’s that supposed to mean 🐴
fiery rivet
What is the team?
I’m gonna get embarrassed for not being able to do it with this team…
Ik
Like
fiery rivet
Nc Serena May and SS Elesa..
zealous karma
Then lower the game speed
fiery rivet
Wait nvm
hot shadow
You need to change the team if you don't have enough gauge for triple queue
formal vigil
check pins for parameters
zealous karma
So you beat the stage?
grand trout
Is it weird that sync countdown lowering moves actually mess me up sometimes
Like sometimes it catches me off guard like in ss Erika, you stack moves then boom, oops you can sync already whoops
rotund lagoon
That’s why I only use sync accel strategies if necessary, most of the time I just don’t 
subtle forge
If it’s inconsistent like solar propulsion, it’s probably not great
But stuff like HS and moves that you can do it on command make it really powerful
fiery rivet
So you beat the stage?
Yea
grand trout
But stuff like HS and moves that you can do it on command make it really powerfu...
I have to admit even you and me catches me off guard too
magic crown
Ok that's much better
rigid flint
Ok that's much better
Double Diancie ftw
old orchid
Replace Clay with a tank, and level them up yo lvl 120
frozen depotBOT
tired sleet
Perhaps Brock (he has defence buffs and potions)
tired sleet
You need to get 18 types over two weeks to unlock master mode
tired sleet
Hop is also great, but i’d imagine you already have plans for him
restive roost
hes gna buff attack for my rock girl
tired sleet
I see
As long as you can complete the remaining types next week it shouldn’t be an issue if there’s a little overlap
tired sleet
With who
restive roost
same team except replace clay with brock
toxic cobalt
Lv1 Hop 
restive roost
Lv1 Hop <:SycamorePanic:813723770022920202>
need more xp for him so i can use him against the champ or final boss
toxic cobalt
Oh man. And your only replacement is Maylene? No other crit buffers?
toxic cobalt
Well, beat them to death with Giovanni then
Giovanni and Roxanne and Acerola will be a simple enough win
toxic cobalt
Hmmm
restive roost
is roxanne for spa buff
toxic cobalt
Spa and speed and defence
restive roost
o
toxic cobalt
For fighting you can always slot brawley in somewhere if you have a duo that works
restive roost
i got wiped
zealous karma
Do you know how to triple queue?
restive roost
as soon as they synced my mewtwo went good night
proud axle
They should die before sync though
zealous karma
That meansyou likely don’t know how to quad queue
proud axle
Which fight was this, again
restive roost
grimsley
proud axle
Can you show us Mewtwo's stats?
zealous karma
If he’s 3/5 that is
restive roost
acerola was full hp but the other two died 😭
proud axle
What is Mewtwo's Defense?
restive roost
zealous karma
He’s ex so that’s good
restive roost
si
zealous karma
Are you using maylene to support Gio?
restive roost
no i seapped to roxanne
zealous karma
Oh okay good
I assume@Gio is gridded?
Are you still using Acerola alongside those 2?
restive roost
gio is not gridded whatsoever
zealous karma
Because the flinches can be useful to prevent grimsley from getting off his aoe thunder wave
I see
restive roost
yeah
proud axle
This could also be a problem
restive roost
no but he died after they synced
i had that
my roxanne had no more buff moves left
proud axle
It’s not master mode so it should be fine
Have you forgotten how glassy Mewtwo is
zealous karma
Wait does Gio have critical strike 2 Ls
I’ve had mewtwo survive syncs in 2KMM so I assumed it should be fine
proud axle
Generally not to stuff he's weak against
restive roost
yo whos gios son again?
proud axle
Silver
restive roost
oh yeah
proud axle
Problem is, you already used Lyra so... oof
Lyra would be a fantastic Support in a sun team. It's basically her entire reason to exist
restive roost
oh i used her against caitlyn
proud axle
OOooooooof
restive roost
cause she had a pokemon that brought sun
my alolan raichu was very happy that battle
proud axle
Using Lyra when the enemy has Sun is kind of... ooooooOOOOOoooof
Because she's weak to Fire
Which is stronger in Sun
restive roost
😭
proud axle
And if the enemy has Sun, they very often use fire
restive roost
maybe i should use the skin
zealous karma
Here’s what it should normally look like
restive roost
ok so
he did not die to sync
but the dude got snarled at and then got shot and died
proud axle
Gridding Acerola for Astonish Aggravation 1 should make up the difference if you know how to do turn denial
Especially since this is Round 4, I think?
restive roost
ok so
proud axle
Just Astonish Aggravation 1 (increase flinch chance)
restive roost
i may or may not have alr unlocked some of her grids
proud axle
If it includes Astonish Aggravation, great
If it does not, you can just rearrange the orbs so that it does
zealous karma
I was able to clear it without needing to grid anyone but I was lucky with a 30% chance
proud axle
You can't take the orbs away from her to give them to someone else
But that's as far as the non-refunding goes. You don't need to give her more orbs, she can reuse the ones you already gave her
zealous karma
Quad queuing is the only super important part of this clear imo that and getting CS from 
cookies
restive roost
cs?
restive roost
proud axle
Doesn't matter
Her damage is garbage
She's just here for her very high flinch chance
proud axle
Yeah, they mean they have some Acerola-locked orbs in excess
But it still doesn't matter because you're not gonna wanna use Sandstorm
proud axle
where should i go for gio grid
I'm not sure you have enough orbs for anything meaningful, but let's see
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zealous karma
There’s grids featured here and in #1009587872342478908 pins for the full document
restive roost
thank you
zealous karma
Yw
proud axle
...Too expensive for you rn
zealous karma
You can likely ditch an on a roll tile and smarty pants
proud axle
...Still too expensive
restive roost
...Too expensive for you rn
proud axle
Ew
restive roost
oh thats too much
proud axle
But okay, don't buy the whole branch
Otherwise you have nothing left for fighting the champion with
proud axle
Sure
restive roost
alr
proud axle
That should help a good bit
zealous karma
The fight with even a minimal grid shouldn’t have been to stressful
restive roost
but it was enough to sneeze and get rid of the rest of them
which condition should i pick
and my hop will be 120 soon dw
zealous karma
Oh wow good team
restive roost
ive been waiting so bad to try it
zealous karma
It doesn’t matter which round param you choose except do not choose SpDef param
restive roost
left with 3 more types if i win
zealous karma
Since no one has an additional effect in their move that is effected by the param I’d just choose that as jt doesn’t effect quad queuing like the phys shield does
restive roost
alright
proud axle
Counterproposal
If this team fails, replace Masked Royal with Sycamore and let him have the first sync
Why? Because +6 SpDef vs Hyper Beam
Also because his Moonblast can reduce enemy SpAtk (added effect parameter can be useful with that)
Also also: there is no Fairy fight next week but there is a Dark fight so you're incentivized to bring Masked Royal next week anyway
restive roost
Why? Because +6 SpDef vs Hyper Beam
one time someone told me to start with his sync for that after i lost like 20 attempts and then it was a breeze
it was the greatest thing ever
proud axle
Sycamore is "What if Roxanne but stronger" with the drawback of needing the first sync to accomplish it
toxic cobalt
What if Roxanne but somehow weaker to physical attacks 
proud axle
Hm. Roxanne's pretty glassy, even with +4Def
toxic cobalt
Hence the somehow!
proud axle
Oh, that exists, it's Cheryl
toxic cobalt
Roxanne
proud axle
There are quite a lot of good 3stars competing for them these days
restive roost
csuse i saw like the red hair with bird being good
proud axle
But yes Roxanne is definitely a fine candidate
restive roost
swan
proud axle
Skyla/Swanna is also a very good candidate
restive roost
what rewards should i go for in ball event to make my guys stronger
the hideout
i already got the balls
proud axle
Let's see, these are the 3star Supports (who have grids so far) according to Pomatools. If we rule out the Furisode girl... all of them are good 
candidates except Marlon and possibly Liza.
toxic cobalt
How is Maylene getting ahead of Lizaa!?
proud axle
Atk, Crit, Speed, Acc
restive roost
imma go for maylene roxxane and swanna first cause they are pretty high leveled already
the blissey woman is at 100 for me
toxic cobalt
Hmm actually not sure I was around when Maylene got grid
But Liza is great i used her from day 1
toxic cobalt
MPr does solve Maylene's main issues
restive roost
what is unflappable 💀
proud axle
Flinchproofing
proud axle
i do not see any wings on trainer or pokemon
We were just talking about Skyla and Swanna
proud axle
Anyway this is what it means
zealous karma
There are _5star_ Supports with worse buffsets than this
Maylenes grid is great she’s like Aaron in the sense she buffs Atk and accuracy but being able to buff Spd is so great wish she had Ex support
proud axle
It's like, when an attacker needs something other than the usual Buff Puzzle Pieces, it's Acc. But Maylene does that too
And Def Down on top
The only ways she could be better are if they gave her, like, Fighting Zone or something. Or better bulk.
toxic cobalt
Don't appreciate these grids upending my knowledge base
proud axle
You're not gonna like what happens in two days, then
toxic cobalt
I already know MC Torchic is the best
proud axle
If you weren't aware of Maylene's grid, then... maybe you should check out Roark's. His grid released at the same time
Or Shauntal's
proud axle
Auroarks
zealous karma
I posted a lot of Roark when grjd debuted
dark osprey
torchic has synchro healing. the bestest
proud axle
If Torchic had EX to go with it, it'd be even better
But alas.
Still, TM MPR is super nice
dark osprey
true. hopes still remain
swift swan
I'd rather have torchic EX over solgaleo EX
dark osprey
solgaleo will get PB as well right
proud axle
Probably...
Can't be certain, but it is the closest thing to an Alola legendary
Despite not having the Alola tag, since... we don't have a fixed home region
dark osprey
oh yeah. they may just get the other form of that Necrozma thing right?
proud axle
Lunala? Perhaps.
swift swan
could be
dark osprey
oh. don't know myself
swift swan
Though a grid expansion is more realistic
dark osprey
yeah he does do some good damage also the physical up parameter on Alder makes it slightly overkill
proud axle
Roark hits hard
Rock hard, even!
zealous karma
Maybe I should’ve specified his sync hits hard
tired sleet
I hope the solgaleo PB will consist of it getting the Alola theme
If grimsley and naomi can be alolan, they can just say “You’re an honorary Alolan”
toxic cobalt
Aurochs knows about roark grid
I still need to use it myself lol. I really missed those months.
zealous karma
Never thought I’d see the day when a 3* hen pool striker hits almost 100K
dark osprey
oh Grimsley grid expansion as well please
proud axle
Maybe I should’ve specified his sync hits hard
His sync is weaker than Olivia's but his Head Smash does way better turn-by-turn DPS than Stone Edge. At least, according to that one damage-comparison doc
zealous karma
Since I don’t have ingo for sand my Roark will hit harder
proud axle
Never thought I’d see the day when a 3* hen pool striker hits almost 100K
Love a good zero-to-hero story
swift swan
Turn by turn, slowly killing himself in the process. But that should be enough lol
zealous karma
He barely hurts himself tk badly
toxic cobalt
He's what BP Karen wanted to be
proud axle
I do have Ingo so I just skipped the sync nuke nodes and went with the extra Standfast
tired sleet
He's what BP Karen wanted to be
And furbert
proud axle
Since Ingo and Liv would be the ones syncing
zealous karma
And most of his good partners also coincidentally have potions
Sonia
Shauna
HoliJasmine
Aaron
tired sleet
Gosh, i just got nostalgia of furburt being top tier
proud axle
And most of his good partners also coincidentally have potions
Such as Ingo again
zealous karma
He doesn’t need sand so I prefer the others lel
tired sleet
Does he have that good synergy with ingo? His gauge doesn’t seem that bad and he doesn’t particularly synergize well with dual strike besides ss diantha
proud axle
He doesn't, but I paired him with Liv for LARGE NUMBERS this week
zealous karma
His gauge is pretty solid
proud axle
Liv wants the sand, and Ingo coincidentally provides the buffs that Roark needs. And potions too
tired sleet
Is liv olivia 
proud axle
Yes
tired sleet
Makes sense
proud axle
Liv can't DPS as well, but Roark has it in spades
Roark's sync is weaker but, well, I don't need to use it
tired sleet
I hope her grid expansion has pinpoint entry 2; it’s so annoying having to use her tm
restive roost
Also also: there is no Fairy fight next week but there _is_ a Dark fight so you'...
i beat with hop lvl 102 and didn't use masked royal
good for my first time?
void wyvern
Great job!
old orchid
A defense buffer + Marley + Alder
drifting sleet
Anyone to watch out for this week?
stray cipher
Nah
Well this week yes
Next week is ez
This week poison and bug might cause some issues
old orchid
Poison is easily stalled
While Bug might be a problem if you dont have good dmg dealers. Grimsley is annoying too
rotund lagoon
Anyone to watch out for this week?
I definitely don’t recommend Grimsley or Shauntal for the first/fourth rounds.
drifting sleet
Im an idiot
I went in w/ ss lysandre
Forgot to turn off no status
Round 4 v caitlin
Marnie N or nyvolk
dark osprey
Ny volk seems nice
His issue earlier was not being able to use with regular volkner for terrain
Lots changed now though
rotund lagoon
You can plop both Volkners and have a grand ol time :0
proud axle
Elesa 4/5? She can do some work, too, now that she has her grid expansion. Though I think you already won, so...
shell spade
So Cyrus, Leaf, and Swampert?
@frigid iron
frigid iron
Hmm
zealous karma
So Cyrus, Leaf, and Swampert?
If leaf is Ex sure and may has MPR for the team otherwise I’d prolly use a more efficient gauge support
shell spade
If leaf is Ex sure and may has MPR for the team otherwise I’d prolly use a more ...
Blue with rain from swampet? Would that work?
woeful wave
Can this work?
zealous karma
Blue with rain from swampet? Would that work?
I assume you mean Sygna suit blue? If this is not 18 types than definitely
zealous karma
Can this work?
I don’t understand what the marshal team is or Caitlin team they don’t have much synergy although elesa likes Spd buffs if you have Volkner he’d be preferred over Roxanne
woeful wave
Well the Marshal team was betting cmarnie carry XD
shell spade
I assume you mean Sygna suit blue? If this is not 18 types than definitely
Yep, I mean SS blue with blastoise
zealous karma
These teams will work but they don’t have much synergy and feel like putting good units together which definitely works but synergy wise there’s not much there
zealous karma
Yep, I mean SS blue with blastoise
Oh alright this is master mode tho I just want to make sure?
zealous karma
Well the Marshal team was betting cmarnie carry XD
I’d use a Spd support like skyla and if Lyra is one of your few ex supports then she’s fine albeit her output pre sync is not quick unless you have Sun
woeful wave
I can make 1 more ex
shell spade
Oh alright this is master mode tho I just want to make sure?
Yeah, for master mode Shauntel, aiming for 2k now
zealous karma
Yeah, for master mode Shauntel, aiming for 2k now
Then that team will work great
zealous karma
Or leaf. Just for the potions
If you’re using hop I assume no Volkner, hop + Sonia is very redundant as they offer the same support essentially if Sonia’s 3/5 in the case you don’t have fookner bring a a screech mon or a leer bot like kukui or Nanu
rotund lagoon
And if you heal C Marnie, don’t let it get full.
zealous karma
Correct
zealous karma
If you’re using hop I assume no Volkner, hop + Sonia is very redundant as they o...
Apologies if what h said here did nkt make sense I’m busy and rushed to send it
zealous karma
Alder appreciates the SpDef debuffs but if he’s 3/5 he’ll get more out of Spatk debuffs
I think
woeful wave
1/5 XD
rotund lagoon
Iirc, he has a move that takes no gauge
woeful wave
Well, professor sycamore is there. It fine, just hit the refresh