classic gio/sycamore/lillie can work
#Champion Stadium
swift swan
latent eagle
Ye
swift swan
marshal is easy enough that I can clear with Sycamore and Lisia moonblast DPS paired with a crit buffer, so yeah Lillie will have an easier time since she has good nuke
latent eagle
marshal is easy enough that I can clear with Sycamore and Lisia moonblast DPS pa...
Which order should I do the rounds?
swift swan
be careful with grimsley round 1 and 4, the rest are fine
keen jasper
be careful with grimsley round 1 and 4, the rest are fine
I mean, eliminating the TTar first should be no biggie for R1 Grimsley
swift swan
sure, but bite becomes 60% flinch which is annoying
frosty axle
interesting cause my F2P did round 1 Grimsley fine
you flinch his bite before he flinches you
keen silo
Only need to do all 18 types once, to permanently unlock master mode for each region
onyx ice
Trying to make use of Perrserker's power reserves 2
old orchid
Would be funnier with zone
dark osprey
Nice. Solgaleo power reserves is kinda nice too. Probably slightly weaker than this I guess
onyx ice
Solgaleo has higher attack, but steel beam has higher BP than sunsteel strike
However solgaleo has PR5 while Perrserker only PR2
However i think Perrserker 5/5 hits harder than Raihan 1/5
But raihan has his own Seun and accuracy fix at 1/5
Considering my Perrserker is 4★ at 5★ it would have been even better
At least is 5/5 max affinity
SC Jasmine really makes power reserves usable
The only unit that will probably have some troubles with power reserves is lusamine
Her tm heals and gives evasion
Spamming lunge or bug buzz will trigger the regen
How many regens are needed to disable power reserves from 1 HP?
However even if i had p Marnie, i wouldn't have run her regardless, numbers would have been bigger but consistency would have dropped
proud axle
Regen is... 1/8th? Or was it 1/16th HP?
And Power Reserves activates at around 1/3rd?
old orchid
6.25% per regen tick and around 33%
proud axle
1/16th then. And if this is Master Mode, you might have the half healing condition on
With half healing on, I think regen might actually expire before it breaks your Power Reserves
Without half healing on, it'd take 5 turns to break it
onyx ice
1/16th then. And if this is Master Mode, you might have the half healing conditi...
Half healing never affected regen
onyx ice
Used to affect first aid and other healing passives, but now affects only items and trainer moves
onyx ice
Never affected lifesteal
onyx ice
In the past affected passives like recuperation
zealous karma
...is that a bug?
It was a bug that it affected passive healing
But it did use to affect drain healing
onyx ice
I don't remember getting drain halved in the past
dark osprey
I'm also not sure if it used to affect draining
Now though first aid 4 seems really nice
200 pts extra if there's not many AOEs
frosty axle
I don't remember getting drain halved in the past
I never used it much so can't say if it did, but remember it affecting my gradual healing and first aid
the change helped me a lot in F2P as its extra points instead of hp buff
proud axle
Now I'm curious to see an older CSMM clear video to check whether regen was indeed affected
dark osprey
i think they did mention that regen was affected in the patch. not sure.
honestly shall read the update notification from last month or 2 months ago i guess
keen jasper
3k lmao
I wanna see this with CCalem and Cerena
And I want her to have all the move multipliers
Prove that she can deal over 330k with B Fiery Wrath
proud axle
Dark zone, Dark rebuff, and... do Master Skills work on B moves?
I feel like they probably do?
keen jasper
I want this to be proven
eternal escarp
Dark zone, Dark rebuff, and... do Master Skills work on B moves?
PMUN and SMUN work on B Moves so probably
keen jasper
6 stacks of SpMUN, dark zone, -2 dark rebuff, critical HP, SEUN
Too bad SS Cyrus can't do dark rebuff
proud axle
Does her HP have to be critical?
keen jasper
Does her HP have to be critical?
Yes
eternal escarp
Wait is Aggravation 2 applied to B Fiery Wrath’s effect
Wondering if it’s 80% for all targets because multiple don’t lower the odds
keen jasper
Wait is Aggravation 2 applied to B Fiery Wrath’s effect
Nah, it's specifically to the normal one
eternal escarp
Oh that makes sense
keen jasper
Otherwise it would've been Aggravation 1
proud axle
For Fiery Wrath and not... Fiery 🅱️ath
dark osprey
Wouldn't 2 SMUN up next be more damaging than 2 dark rebuffs?
CCalem with dark zone gives 2 PMUNs right?
keen jasper
CCalem with dark zone gives 2 PMUNs right?
Yeah
proud axle
He can use his B move twice, it's okay
old orchid
Wouldn't 2 SMUN up next be more damaging than 2 dark rebuffs?
80% vs 50% dmg increase, so yes
proud axle
Once as water to give SMUN and once as dark for zone
dark osprey
Oh yeah. Can get that B fiery wrath in then
keen jasper
Nah, dark zone is better than 2 stacks of SpMUN
dark osprey
I think giga meant that we can get both with CCalem
Or CBede and SS Cyrus does seem simpler
Or CBede and CCalem together may be even more crazier
keen jasper
What about the dark rebuff?
dark osprey
Or SS Kris I guess
That's what. Would it be that great to get the rebuff?
Can stack more SMUNs
keen jasper
Cerena can debuff Sp. Def. and rebuff
keen jasper
Not even 10 stacks of SpMUN can compare to dark zone
dark osprey
Really?
keen jasper
Yeah
proud axle
...How much is each SpMUN worth again
dark osprey
40% right
proud axle
Like, I get that Dark Zone is better in general since you can use it more than once, and on syncs
But this is specifically to do Funny Bullshit With Marnie's B Move
So one hit is all it needs
dark osprey
Yeah. Not counting sync
keen jasper
6 stacks of SpMUN with dark zone: 333460, 337165, 340870, 344575, 348280, 351985, 355690, 359395, 363101, 366806, 370511
8 stacks of SpMUN without dark zone: 259789, 262676, 265562, 268449, 271335, 274222, 277108, 279995, 282882, 285768, 288655
dark osprey
I guess the 10 stacks was a bit of an exaggeration
proud axle
Oh, you mean going from 6 to 10 SpMUN does not beat Dark Zone
Since it's multiplicative
keen jasper
So fields will almost always beat out MUN stacks?
proud axle
Depends how many stacks you already have
Though I imagine if you're stacking them at all, you'll reach the point where fields win very early on
onyx ice
Dark zone, Dark rebuff, and... do Master Skills work on B moves?
B moves are classified as regular moves
Anything that affects regular DPS moves affects b moves
Wondering it's really worth to candy Moltres to 3/5
onyx ice
Nah, dark zone is better than 2 stacks of SpMUN
Dark zone is +50% multiplicative, 2 stacks is +80% additive, so it depends on the multipliers
The more the initial multipliers the more valuable zone is
For units that only have cs2 as multiplier is 1.2 * 1.5 = 1.8 while 2 stacks of pmun is 1.2 + 1.8 = 2 so for units that have only cs2 the stacks are betterz but the more things you add the better the zone becomes
keen jasper
For units that only have cs2 as multiplier is 1.2 * 1.5 = 1.8 while 2 stacks of...
Seems math fooled me
onyx ice
However master passive still counts as additive passives
keen jasper
However master passive still counts as additive passives
Wait, 1.2 + 1.8= 2?
proud axle
Wait, 1.2 + 1.8= 2?
It uses the same cursed math as reward bonus multipliers in this game, I presume
In which 1.6+1.6+1.6 = 2.8
keen jasper
Ah ok
onyx ice
Wait, 1.2 + 1.8= 2?
Additive
Technically is 1 + 0.2 + 0.8
Or simply (20 + 80)%
Zone is an 1.5x multiplier, critical strike 2 is a 20% damage bonus
wide adder
hey, im planning to do 2k presyncs for the most part if possible
could i have some help with forming the teams for the current ones? i havent played in quite a while
got plenty of sync orbs for people not gridded up
gearwise i have a maxed ghost set, thats basically it
old orchid
Hey why is your Giovanni 1/5 
old orchid
proud axle
hey, im planning to do 2k presyncs for the most part if possible
could i have so...
If you're going for 2k, then I'm guessing you've already unlocked Master Mode so we don't have to worry about spreading the 18 types around?
proud axle
Against Marshall: Sycamore + Lisia + a critbuffer work well. Defog his entry Evasion away (plus you can add Critical Shield to get another 150pts out of it), especially if you can get some phys def out of it. Hop, Aaron, or SSBlue stand out as ideal; Phoebe can work; don't use Piers because he's weak to Fighting
Marshall is also the only one who gave me any trouble this week.
Because I forgot about Piers' weakpoint and brought him as my critbuffer. ooooof.
proud axle
Both. Double attacker teamcomp
Sycamore syncs first for the massive buffs and EX Support
There's nothing wrong with Lisia's SpAtk, and while Sycamore's SpAtk is kinda low, he has a massive innate multiplier for Fairy moves (Fairy Power 5)
If the enemy syncs, don't panic. Lisia will probably survive and you can grid her so she hits hard when she's at low HP
paper summit
so... why are you suggesting Lisia when this person has Palentine Serena? only due to defog?
proud axle
Because I have no idea how Palerena works. But I have a secondary plan anyway, now that I notice Aaron is 3/5
Grid Aaron for Precision Pals (so you counteract Marshall's entry eva that way), and use him with Sycamore and Anniversary Lillie
That has way better odds of presyncing
...You might even skip Sycamore and use Gloria, though maybe you want her to fight the Steel stage. I don't know a lot about Gloria.
Ah, wait, Sycamore needs to be there for speed. Never mind
rotund lagoon
Because I have no idea how Palerena works. But I have a secondary plan anyway, n...
You can check their kits lol
But she decreases Speed and Paralyzes and is a decent Sp Attacker
proud axle
~~You can't make me! 
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void wyvern
Her 1/5 gets her damage from ramming speed and hunters instinct. Running a special attack/crit support and covering speed or speed down with someone else is how to build around her.
proud axle
Steel-weak Grimsley likes using debuffs... I kinda wanna build a team that includes Leaf/Eevee just because it would be funny to hit him with her Iron Tail while laughing at the debuffs with her Impervious.
It'd go something like Solgaleo, Leaf, and a critbuffer
wide adder
Her 1/5 gets her damage from ramming speed and hunters instinct. Running a speci...
that just makes me think sabrina on the team if its pal+syca
proud axle
What would Sabrina contribute? Sycamore already maxes the team's SpA and Speed
Just there for Dire Hit?
wide adder
+acc and dire hit
proud axle
Oh, okay. Need +2 acc per member to fully counteract Marshall's +2 Eva, though...
Sixth Sense only gives +1acc at a time I think
void wyvern
You might just have to get lucky with accuracy.
void wyvern
Yes he does.
proud axle
I think I'd still recommend Anniversary Lillie + Sycamore + Aaron with acc from grid
void wyvern
You’ll struggle to get sp Atk consistently with him.
proud axle
Aaron doesn't even need to trigger MPR if Sycamore is gridded for Team Sharp Entry 1
wide adder
well ig first ill draft the other teams and come back to that one after ive got a clue what im using for the others
proud axle
Sure
Moving on to Grimsley then. Following up on that smartassed idea I had just now: Solgaleo + Leaf(Eevee) + Piers
wide adder
lets see... steel... ive got kimono grimsley, solgaleo, hop, and gloria for the most part.
proud axle
Ugh, looking up Gloria's skillset
proud axle
Maybe Solgaleo, SSBlue, Gloria.
Unless you want to use Ingo instead of SSBlue. That might actually be even better
(I like double-attacker teambuilds.)
wide adder
might need to offtype fighting unless wally or whatever got buffed or bea is good enough cause uh, historically had a bad time with fighting types
uhhh, ig lets figure out dark next
sydney, masked royal, halloween hilbert, karendoom
that looks like my dark dps options
proud axle
Dark Caitlyn decreases your team's SpAtk by 2 ranks at the start of the fight. So we either need to overcompensate, or focus on phys attacks
Karen's grid update made her kinda cool, but she's Special, so that's an issue here
wide adder
well good thing the only sp attacker for dark ive got is karen, so ive got plenty of physical options
proud axle
Masked Royal is always fun to use, and I hear good things about Sidney's sync-nuke capability if he's 3/5. And yours is 5/5
The issue here is that Masked Royal also has a really powerful sync nuke, so... hm.
proud axle
That's not a bad idea.
wide adder
think i wanna try sydney cause i havent really used him before
proud axle
Cools, then. So we want a critbuffer again, for Masked Royal
Maybe Hop, so MR doesn't need to worry about Atk either
He can start (brutal) swinging a turn or two sooner
Hop doesn't have EX, though...
wide adder
sydney fullcrits himself, both him and nessa need atk tho, hmmm
proud axle
Maybe it'll be fine
wide adder
yeah, if im not using hop anywhere else he can prob do a fine job here
proud axle
Moving on to... Shauntal, I think
wide adder
ground i assume is ss serena and whatever else
wide adder
courtney has ground wish, thats interesting
proud axle
Courtney's personal DPS always disappoints me, but Ground Wish on SSSerena more than makes up for it
That leaves the champion
wide adder
lets see... if ingos free...
is offtyping still viable?
i could just throw my rock squad at it
proud axle
It should be. You also have Anniversary May so you could do a Psychic team
wide adder
or is it better i try out bea and wally first before resorting to offtype
proud axle
Maybe we can do that as a kind of training.
Wally did get a grid update recently, and it makes him way more streamlined
mellow linden
Bea + appropriate Supports should murder the stage
proud axle
Your Bea is... move level 2, huh... Let's see what's on her grid
Just two Sync+25 nodes of note.
All her meaningful stuff is in 3/5...
I wonder if post-update Wally might actually be better? But then, his sync is Mega-taxed
You could also put Bea and Korrina together, with Hilbert
And probably obliterate it
mellow linden
Eh, Meteor Assault is nuts and she doesn’t need anything unusual for support
I don’t even think a 2nd damage-dealer is needed
proud axle
I don't seem to ever get good results from Bea when I try her
wide adder
if im just trying out bea, i can do like, bea, redlax, and an atk buffer?
mellow linden
Sure
mellow linden
With Supereffective Up there should be zero issues
mellow linden
Since she’s 2/5 any form of gauge support works, as well
Since her only Speed-based modifier is 3/5
wide adder
ok so now i just need to figure out which order im fighting them in
these parameters dont sound like theyd do much other than the sync buffs one
mellow linden
That’s pretty much accurate
proud axle
Rounds 1 and 4 work in Grimsley's favor
Round 4 works in your favor for Masked Royal
I'm not sure any status conditions are a thing in your OR the enemy's teams here
Like, Shauntal's sidekicks use Sludge Wave after she goes down, but that's a negligible poison chance
wide adder
think im just going to throw my ground team for round 1, the additional effects thing doesnt seem important to me
proud axle
Does it increase the chance of A.Lillie gaining SE Up Next?
wide adder
...huh... dunno.
proud axle
Yeah, his new nodes are pretty damn good
mellow linden
Round 1 effect does not affect passives
wide adder
the fact he can actually give a starting crit chance is nutty to me.
proud axle
Round 1 effect does not affect passives
Darn. Thank you
wide adder
does this look right? found this as "full moonblast" on the list
mellow linden
Yeah, that should be fine if you’re planning to spam Moonblast
teal siren
2k team for Shauntal approved?
proud axle
It will probably work, but it still perpetually amuses me that it's a team with no Support
They may not need one, but still...
mellow linden
2k team for Shauntal approved?
That’s what I used except 2/5 Courtney and EX Cynthia, so yeah
wide adder
fairys done
lunalillie + syca + spring burgh used
no idea if status conditions effects confusion
proud axle
It isn't a Condition but the round modifier does affect it I think
mellow linden
It would affect the duration and chance that the opponent attacks themselves since the effect specifies “status conditions and other conditions”
But it does not affect the chance of getting confusion via secondary effect, since that’s what the round 1 parameter does
proud axle
Fortunately I think Sidney has a 100% chance to inflict it
mellow linden
Yeah
wide adder
well i got no other statuses so ill throw sydney here
proud axle
Wonder what their self-oof chance becomes, with Sidney having Stop Hitting Yourself 5
Combined with that round modifier, that is
wide adder
12k nuke, not bad
especially considering hes taxed
i already know ssserena doesnt need help, so ill throw steel in sync city
god steel cut it close
wasnt enough gauge to go around both dps with my ssb lol
proud axle
Oof
wide adder
sserena under ground wish is funny as shit
proud axle
"SSB wasn't enough gauge" is a rare statement in this game 
wide adder
yeah, i didnt hit a mpr
so solga was hurting for gauge
bruhhh houndoom lived on 1 hp
there we go, 10k
thx, and its nice seeing you still here gigafreak 
teal siren
First time finishing a 10k run without using Ash or SST Red
proud axle
I probably could just make five offtype bruteforce teams but I feel like I'd gradually get rusty if I did that
mellow linden
On-type is more fun since you get to use more pairs anyways
proud axle
Five fights where you have to use teams that don't overlap
mellow linden
There’s 5 battles, and each battle needs to have a different team, with no overlap between teams
proud axle
Normal mode is a low-stakes practice version for you to make all the mistakes you want, and learn from them
mellow linden
Each round also has a unique parameter that affects both you and the opponent
proud axle
The round parameters can influence your decision on what order to fight the Elite Four
Like, a parameter that amplifies physical attacks... might be risky for an opponent like Bruno, who uses primarily physicals but has special-heavy weakpoints
tired sleet
Normal mode is a low-stakes practice version for you to make all the mistakes yo...
And by that you mean use as many types as possible in your first week 
tired sleet
Oh yeah, i forgot that normal mode existed
It’s not really practice if it recommends lvl 45 units tho 
proud axle
It's practice for "Don't use your best pairs in one team or you can't use them in other teams"
tired sleet
But in normal mode you can use the same team 5 times
supple blade
You unlock master mode by using 18 types in 1 champion stadium, right?
tired sleet
In Hard mode, yes
But it takes 2 weeks to do so, since you can only use 15 pairs in one week (3 pairs times 5 teams)
But on the 2nd week you can reset and do MM
supple blade
So in total, it takes 16 weeks to unlock all master modes
proud axle
The stadium region rotates monthly; the challenges within the region change weekly
It takes seven months for seven leagues.
tired sleet
I wouldn’t really worry about not having kalos csmm unlocked rn
proud axle
Galar doesn't have an Elite Four so it might not end up getting a Champion Stadium; Paldea doesn't have any content in PMEX yet
swift swan
they'll find a way to milk Galar for CS
zealous karma
The first CS tj have 8 diff weeks
trail smelt
Lol yeah
onyx ice
Galar doesn't have an Elite Four so it might not end up getting a Champion Stadi...
Maybe they will rotate 4 gym leaders and Leon for the champion
sand karma
The first CS tj have 8 diff weeks
2 cs in a week
dark osprey
CS Hard Level 2?
old orchid
The Grimsley team will def face gauge issue
proud axle
That's a lot of Marnie in the teams afterward. I'm guessing you're focusing on just the first week for now, then
woeful wave
Ya
proud axle
The Grimsley team will def face gauge issue
I'm not so sure about that, Solga uses zero gauge for 2/3rds of its turns each sync cycle
woeful wave
O the other teams are general use on other content. Some of them were for legendary fight which I clear all
proud axle
And the team has at least +2 Speed each
Solga gets Sync Freebie and then B Freezing Glare freebie (Freebie-ing Glare?)
(Free🅱️ing Glare!)
If you do things in the right order, it should go really smooth
Shauntal team is a little uncomfortable but might still work
woeful wave
I should still self buff solgaleo right
proud axle
Yeah, once. The second buff is probably overkill
Though you will need to wait until Turn 3 before Bede can reasonably fit his own buff in
Confusion, B FGlare, TM
Solga will probably want to TM, Metal Claw, and then use the freebie on Sunsteel
Cait team... I'm not sure Rosa has enough gauge support to keep Marnie shooting
Ice, grass, self speed...
Candice has X Speed. Maybe that instead of Melony, and Marnie's own self speed, will be enough supplemented by Rosa 
woeful wave
I put Rosa it also because she was EX as well. Hahaha
swift swan
The Grimsley team will def face gauge issue
with CBede on the team, I don't think so. besides, Koga's pretty fast
proud axle
CBede gives a teamwide freebie with every sync cycle. It's nuts
And teanwide +2 Speed on entry
dark osprey
it will be tricky if their Bede is 1/5 i guess but with his innate head start can afford queuing only 2 moves on the first sync cycle
woeful wave
I could Q with koga TM and confusion if needed.
Think possible. Gonna need to try when I done setup
Well May is to fill water. Can switch
woeful wave
I could also switch pheobe for ghost type for acerola with Cynthia
woeful wave
oh is this for the type medal?
Ya. XD. That's why it is like a different type in each team
So I tried to fill 15/18 this week. Then next week will fill in the last 3 to unlock master
versed meteor
Lol i just set up fairy zone with wally then cleared it with defog using lisia so i could remove opponents crit defence
woeful wave
Iris one not sure that one abit weird
proud axle
it will be tricky if their Bede is 1/5 i guess but with his innate head start ca...
???
Turn 1: X Speed, Bright As The Sun, Confusion (4 gauges used)
Turn 2: X Speed, Metal Claw, B Freezing Glare (1 gauge used)
Turn 3: Move Like A Shadow or Poison Fang, Sunsteel Strike, Triumphant Tenacity (0 gauges used)
I think +2 entry speed is enough to generate one extra gauge between the first two rounds
This is if Bede is gridless. In fact they can get this far with the whole team gridless
woeful wave
What about Marshal and Iris
dark osprey
???
Turn 1: X Speed, Bright As The Sun, Confusion (4 gauges used)
Turn 2: X Spee...
Oh yeah it does seem to be straight forward
Wait nvm. It's slightly complicated
But manageable for sure
proud axle
Like, it can be improved by moving Sunsteel Strike to after Triumphant Tenacity
But eh
Every sync cycle, Bede can use B Freezing Glare to make the third round 0-gauge
And Solga can grid for Sync Freebie on top
dark osprey
Yeah. Like if b move is used as the last turn in your team, the free move of the teammates can be used the next to next turn
proud axle
You don't want the B move used last because of Solga's sync freebie
You use it on the second round so that the third round is free
woeful wave
I could switch red for another buffer XD OR red DPS change willy for C Hop
proud axle
Oh, if you have Neo Hop, may as well use him there
dark osprey
You don't want the B move used last because of Solga's sync freebie
Yeah true. Just generally
Especially if EX Bede
proud axle
You could swap Red for Marley and still get the fire medal-- but also give more speed
proud axle
Also Sharp Entry 1 if you can afford it
That way, Solga will have max crit after Bede uses TM
There's more stuff in the grid that might be useful, but let's not splurge more than that for now
woeful wave
They are 1 of my fav units to use. Was the carry in the acc
Shuantal dont I need to change the weather?
proud axle
No
She only uses Sunny Day after her sync
Unova is easy
Marshall's the only one who gave me trouble and that's only because I forgot that Piers is weak against him
woeful wave
the special parameter do I need to be careful except R4 on Grimsley is no-no
R1: Grimsley
R2: Caitlin
R3: Marshal
R4: Shauntal
swift swan
https://youtu.be/X8Z1MQFmVWc
dang
swift swan
R1: Grimsley
R2: Caitlin
R3: Marshal
R4: Shauntal
r1 grimsley, be careful with bite, it has a high flinch chance
otherwise it's fine
woeful wave
was thinking the chance of freezing him XD
woeful wave
hahaha, but this is hard, so think it should be fine
proud axle
And then we never heard from them again
swift swan
woeful wave
XD
proud axle
Sometimes, it's like we can almost still hear their voice...
woeful wave
Wait, I can explain. It time for bed
proud axle
May they rest in peace
keen jasper
freeze is unreliable in this game
Isn't freeze just like flinch?
woeful wave
Isn't freeze just like flinch?
Ya. But it 10%
swift swan
I mean there are more moves with high flinch chance than freeze
proud axle
The highest freeze chance in the game is, what, 30%? Maybe 40%?
woeful wave
See it did freeze
Marine team is fast enough to regain energy
Done. @proud axle ty for the help
O, I have enough to make 3 EX now. I think
nocturne pawn
The highest freeze chance in the game is, what, 30%? Maybe 40%?
46% from hleon with cold snap on grid
proud axle
Meanwhile Flinch, which commonly reaches 60% on a lot of pairs: 
proud axle
That's actually almost good, then
nocturne pawn
but flinch regularly reaches 60% and ss lyra has staggering 9
formal vigil
ss lyra has has hassling hit 9 for 100% flinch
formal vigil
it also gives gurateed trap and confustion but meh
nocturne pawn
joy
nocturne pawn
it shouldnt
the wording is when the move is successful
so id be under the impression its not penalized if its on an aoe
keen jasper
Ah, so it really is 30% AoE flinch chance on Brutal Swing
proud axle
ss lyra has has hassling hit 9 for 100% flinch
Yeah, but she's the only one with more than 60% and a Master Pair to boot, so I kinda felt like the "many pairs have 60%" angle was more fair
stray sentinel
Marshall Round 1 ?
stray sentinel
For ex I wouldn’t want to face someone who can poison on a round status conditions hurt more. That kind of order
paper summit
well, then sounds like you can tell how to tackle it
mellow linden
there isn't any set order ever
To be 100% fair, I don’t think I could ever in good conscience recommend Sinnoh CS Psychic weak Flint on a round with boosted special moves
Due to that parameter turning him into an ICBM
onyx ice
To be 100% fair, I don’t think I could ever in good conscience recommend Sinnoh ...
Maybe to offtype him with c Marnie
paper summit
To be 100% fair, I don’t think I could ever in good conscience recommend Sinnoh ...
well, that still doesn't have a set order, it's more like general pointers
mellow linden
Fair enough
onyx ice
I think that with 3/5 6ex Marnie, flint won't be able to land more than one hit
lunar meadow
What a fun and easy 2k offtype lol
zealous karma
SSleaf PB should give her an additional sync buff when she syncs
onyx ice
I think my strongest offtype team is
C Marnie (3/5 6ex) C hop (1/5 6ex) Gloria (3/5)
zealous karma
My strongest off type team is ssbrendan Calem bianca
onyx ice
At least for unova, everyone can land only 1 hit
onyx ice
My strongest off type team is ssbrendan Calem bianca
Calem with the cat?
zealous karma
Yes
paper summit
My strongest off type team is ssbrendan Calem bianca
that you actually use maybe, you have much stronger characters...
zealous karma
Potentially
paper summit
objectively lol, I get the favorite thing, but let's be real
zealous karma
My actual easiest off type is prolly Victor PSerena SSLyra
paper summit
I admit you really know how to do some funny things with Calem
onyx ice
Never thought of calem would have been part of anyone's best team
I mainly use him for gauntlet
For some la is pretty good
I guess the last time i used regular calem for master mode the cap was still 1.5k
paper summit
we need those free story 5* copies back
zealous karma
Only using Calem for 1.5K is funny to me I like using him for 3K a lot lel
On type
proud axle
we need those free story 5* copies back
I thought they might add dupes of story pairs in the main story branch of the villain arc, but they didn't...
zealous karma
5* power ups pog
onyx ice
we need those free story 5* copies back
Cheren is the only support that i didn't 6ex'd
3/5 would be usable, but 1/5 is trash
I 6ex'd even Drake
proud axle
Drake can at least access his full grid easily
I'm not burning 5star candies on Cheren
Though with how bad he is, it does add a kind of comedic weight to that scene where he points out that he, as a (weak) sync pair, can easily steamroll a (powerful) non-synced trainer like Lear
stray sentinel
Can I get a team reviews. Planning Marshall first then Caitlyn. Then grimssly. Then shauntal then champion
zealous karma
Why Mew on Caitlin t am
And why Aaron with leon?
And why glacia with Lisia
These teams are for the@most@part overkill just curious
rotund lagoon
@timid kelp You putting down Skyla for your team?
timid kelp
Yup!
timid kelp
who'd tank?
rotund lagoon
Skyla. I like to suggest members in tactic order.
timid kelp
ohh alright, nice to know
rotund lagoon
timid kelp
and about the special parameter?
rotund lagoon
Third one. Using sync moves as much as possible.
timid kelp
alrighty!! tysm i will try now
rotund lagoon
grand trout
Wait, why isn't grim recommended for r4?
grand trout
On what move?
rotund lagoon
Looking for others
grand trout
Also i just realized iris appears 3/4 times this week naurrr
rotund lagoon
Crunch and Bite have bigger chances, he also has Leer and Rock Tomb for guaranteed drops
Gawd fuck, don’t mind the edits
timid kelp
<:MallowHeart:648788663378903041>
oh my god thank you so much for real
i appreciate your patience!! :]
grand trout
I see
timid kelp
i beat it
rotund lagoon
oh my god thank you so much for real
i appreciate your patience!! :]
Glad it worked!
@grand trout You can check the Champion Stadium section in PoMa Tools btw
+pomatools
frozen depotBOT
grand trout
<@331855836940861440> You can check the Champion Stadium section in PoMa Tools b...
Thank you
I just found it funny because
grand trout
So i screwed myself up and u didn't know it 😭
rotund lagoon
Well you did it 
grand trout
I tried to use jasmine for the debuff shield
woeful wave
we need those free story 5* copies back
So you do get free story 5 star last time?
proud axle
A very long time ago
There used to be (Insert element type here) Training Events
Back before stamina was added to the game
They were events that gave 10x EXP for party members matching the listed type
And the last four of them included dupe copies of story pairs in the shop exchange
This was a big deal for Rosa, Acerola, and Calem, who had just gotten their grids
This would have been a big deal for Flint and Flannery... but those two aren't 5star, so they became easy to just candy up later
So if you see someone with Rosa or Acerola or Calem at 2/5... it's probably because of those very old events rather than from candy expenditures
The boss fights from these events, have been recycled as the boss fights for Gear Events and I think possibly also sometimes Masters Day Co-op
proud axle
Ew no
woeful wave
stray sentinel
These teams are for the@most@part overkill just curious
Tutoring for the medal
Types
zealous karma
O
tired sleet
Can I get a team reviews. Planning Marshall first then Caitlyn. Then grimssly. T...
I’m a bit worried about gauge on Grimsley (steel weak)
grand trout
Jasmine won't help much there
paper summit
Solgaleo is already filling steel, so try and use whatever type you haven't included there for a speed/gauge support if you can
Kiawe is not the most reliable speed buffer, his passive is like 60% chance
stray sentinel
Hmm
rotund lagoon
…….20k????
paper summit
I didn't even know you can reach 4k in a single battle
wait, what am I talking about? of course I knew lol
but 5 times, that's wild
dark osprey
oh goodness. seems like we're ready for harder CS
dark osprey
i guess sinnoh, kalos & hoenn are decent
zealous karma
I’d never willingly do a 20K CS
dark osprey
don't really want harder content. content that's refreshed often seem better
like twice a week for CS maybe?
paper summit
I’d never willingly do a 20K CS
what's 5k more points? see your pairs actually struggle to clear!
zealous karma
I’m crazy but not to this extent!
paper summit
you know, since you hate your faves being meta
zealous karma
True
Considering the units they used I’m not reaching 20K anytime soon and I’m okay with that 
dark osprey
that madlad didn't have all 5/5 units or anything though. just probably the better master fairs and pokefairs
no flinch hacks also
dark osprey
yeah. was kinda cool that way
zealous karma
I’m impressed most of those units even survived the syncs lel
dark osprey
i guess the reduced sync countdown does help a bit so that Power on Hit doesn't go overboard or something
keen jasper
i guess the reduced sync countdown does help a bit so that Power on Hit doesn't ...
That's what I realize too
grand trout
Which supports eould pair well with Dragonite for next week?
keen jasper
What move level is he?
zealous karma
CBede
grand trout
1 💀
zealous karma
And if he’s 5/5 can use literally anyone as a third
paper summit
And if he’s 5/5 can use literally anyone as a third
not yet
grand trout
He's bit of an oddball, his dps is special but physical nuke
paper summit
Calem only buffs +2 special attack
zealous karma
His sync is the opposite of worth using at 1/5
paper summit
but you need 2 supports for Lance at 1/5 regardless
keen jasper
You have SS Brendan?
keen jasper
But he only adds +1 to crit right
He can max it out at 3/5
paper summit
he wants +6 special attack, +3 crit and gauge support, and accuracy if you don't want Hyper Beam to potentially miss
keen jasper
With Team Sharp Entry
zealous karma
he wants +6 special attack, +3 crit and gauge support, and accuracy if you don't...
Sabrina!
keen jasper
And reapplying it on mega
grand trout
he wants +6 special attack, +3 crit and gauge support, and accuracy if you don't...
So what I'm seeing is lillie
zealous karma
She doesn’t provide real crit
keen jasper
I can do real crit for another support then
What move level is your SS Brendan?
keen jasper
I guess you could fish for TM MPR?
keen jasper
Yes
grand trout
So i have to be lucky for it to proc twice
keen jasper
And also Free Move Next if it consume 3 gauges
grand trout
Why isn't there a hilbert for special lol
keen jasper
CGio kinda?
keen jasper
Yeah
grand trout
Hilbert can max atk and crit in two moves
keen jasper
Does Free Move Next apply to TMs that consume gauges?
paper summit
yes
keen jasper
Ah, so you can repeatedly use SS Brendan's TM over and over again if it MP refreshes and your team can potentially(?) have infinite free moves
swift swan
https://youtu.be/M4p_8FkhNRY
https://twitter.com/kea_wq/status/1579035938491367429 new challenger approaches
old orchid
okay this is crazy
woeful wave
So they just keep selecting more buff for the oppo and beat the shit out of them?
paper summit
it's just your regular CS but harder, and of course with a different approach since presync isn't necessarily possible with any team at that difficulty
woeful wave
Celebi the DPS?
versed meteor
Lol people doing 4k modes now
prime warren
Oh god 4k
I only have 3 teams that can offtype
Need 2 more high end teams to tackle that bs incase it becomes true
manic kiln
lol they increased 1k5 to 2k, so if they do it again then probably 2k5 not 4k and not anytime soon 
prime warren
They'll likely jump straight to 3k if they are doing it
2.5k is still very ez
3k is where fun starts
woeful wave
How long ago they increased from 1.5 to 2
old orchid
they better add more parameters
old orchid
How long ago they increased from 1.5 to 2
more than 1 year iirc
manic kiln
we find this easy but the majority of the player base can't even do hard mode and day 1 players still have to ask for teams to clear 7k5 and 10k 
but still hope for some changes after 4th anni
keen jasper
but still hope for some changes after 4th anni
Ultra Hard CS
manic kiln
either level 2 or more points/parameters
zinc island
https://youtu.be/M4p_8FkhNRY
Arceus almighty.
Man i really wish we could do champion stadium twice a week
Odk if i'm the only one but i find champion stadium to be so fun
full mesa
You can do it as much as you want each week if you have unlock the MM for that region.
swift swan
I wish we could get the rewards twice a week
grand trout
I wish we could get the _rewards_ twice a week
I concur
5 * powerups are dripped s l o w l y
A limitation that you can't use a mon you used this week's clear would be not too limiting i think
dark osprey
yeah. that does seem a little more challenging
maybe if it were different type weaknesses it may be still ok
supports will still be the limiting factor
grand trout
champion gauntlet
swift swan
people have already been doing CS gauntlet 
dark osprey
oh yeah. solos and all
dark osprey
oh like region specific
old orchid
Imagine extreme Kalos CS
dark osprey
ah nice. some do get those theme runs
old orchid
dark osprey
but yeah. it would be quite hard
keen silo
oh like region specific
I lowkey want this ahhaah
dark osprey
It seems fun for a developed roster but there does seem to be a lot of disparaties among the regions too
dim marsh
Ok so...
I usually clear the CS with 15K every week but now there's a problem
It's becoming too easy - should I 17.5K instead lol
dark osprey
the cool kids are all doing 20K
zealous karma
Jump scare
keen silo
It seems fun for a developed roster but there does seem to be a lot of disparati...
Yeah definitely a good form of end game content
hidden ore
Is this a decent fairy team?
old orchid
Not really
hidden ore
Trying to do ontype for it
I have Diantha too but she special
Need to adjust right params without “no stat reduction”
I can offtype it, but I’ve powered up Mina and want to test her
old orchid
If you want to test her, first replace Sycamore with a crit support at least
Someone like Hilbert, Sonia, Aaron...
Aaron is very nice if you have him at 3/5 which he can buff accuracy as well
hidden ore
My Aaron is 4/5 ex
So Mina & Aaron + Lillie/Sonia/Hilbert?
old orchid
Mina + Aaron + someone can debuff attack/do physical fairy damage
old orchid
Aaron can max atk and crit for Mina
old orchid
mina + aaron + sycamore
dark osprey
especially since sycamore is EX
hidden ore
I have both ex’ed
dark osprey
oh nice. sycamore sync with adrenaline & the buffs would be better probably
there's another budget team that would be Lisia, Sycamore and any crit buffer like surgechu but the aaron mina team seems much better
proud axle
If Aaron is 3/5, you can grid for accuracy buffs to counteract Marshall's evasion nonsense
onyx ice
Me that used Lillie's Clefairy as the Main DPS
zealous karma
1/5 Lillie hours
bright furnace
You still have 1/5 Lillie? 
onyx ice
Really sad that 1/5 Summer Lyra is atrocious, i really like the outfit and Jigglypuff, but i don't want to waste candies for an unit that's mediocre at best at 3/5
It's kinda like Jigglypuff in the main series, i try to make good use of it but it's just bad
At least her sync can kinda work in some legendary arenas
onyx ice
Maybe Gloria + Aaron + Summer Lyra can kinda work for fairy weak, if it doesn't buff evasion
Wondering if i should give her head start 1 to at least give her a niche
old orchid
Aaron can buff accuracy hello???
onyx ice
Yes but without mpr only +2 and 1/5 Jigglypuff needs +3 to have sure hits against marshall
onyx ice
I don't need mpr
old orchid
onyx ice
Since Gloria doesnt have max crit
Sharp entry 1 at 2/5
I have her at 3/5
Is lyra that's 1/5
swift swan
Rare 3/5 gloria owner. Mine's been 1/5 since last year
old orchid
With MPR you save turns of clicking Lyra's TM twice and Dire Hit+
onyx ice
Rare 3/5 gloria owner. Mine's been 1/5 since last year
Had her 2/5 and when the free select came i had all those units and N and Cynthia expansions wheren't a thing yet
At least 3/5 Gloria has headstart so isn't a completely wasted 3/5
At least i can use her in my cmarnie + cbede team
Gave Bede headstart 1 and Marnie is 3/5 6ex so i can sync turn 2
zealous karma
You still have 1/5 Lillie? <:MonkaScottie:684438879352127543>
Yes
swift swan
onyx ice
Thought 6 ex on Marnie was kinda overkill, since her b fiery wrath has no AOE penality
But with -6 sync she can deny the side turn 2
old orchid
You have 3/5 Shauna? 
onyx ice
You have 3/5 Shauna? <:RosaPout:1005317776585527366>
I guess 0/5 isn't 1/5
zealous karma
You have 3/5 Shauna? <:RosaPout:1005317776585527366>
Gen pool In ticket scout, I wish I love Chesnaught
onyx ice
Gen pool In ticket scout, I wish I love Chesnaught
Ticket pool units then
Aka the f2p friendly 5★ scoutable units
I have all of them at least 3/5
Wondering if they will update the pool
They rarely do
I think they updated it only twice
swift swan
They seem to update it every full anni
proud axle
Yeah, I'm sitting on my tickets until late august for that
There've been seven new genpools since last update, I think
dark osprey
Oh. On that note, there was some kind of limit you can use or something right?
swift swan
Not sure about that...
proud axle
...Huh?
I could go through all of mine at once if I wanted. I just wouldn't get anything useful out of it
I've somehow reached the point where 
limit me again instead of 
, I think?
dark osprey
Don't remember but Absol-utely had mentioned something about the limit before last anniversary. Shall check
bright furnace
Literally my only gen pool that i still have at 1:5 apart from darach
At least they’re 1/5. I have 0/5 Courtney lol
swift swan
Same, 0/5 courtney
proud axle
..how
Let's see, was it 50 to EX?
I have 1595 (let's round up to 1600) in my bag, so that's 32 EXes
I have 346 and 1810 
. If I use a 5/15 ratio, that gets me 18 EXes costing all my and 270 , and then I can afford another three EXes after (21 EXes total)
And then I have 1711 
, 63 Kanto, 462 Johto, 307 Hoenn, 139 Sinnoh, 441 Unova, 397 Kalos, 169 Alola, 174 Galar and my unspent Kantrio ticket from Victory Road.
57+2+15+10+4+14+13+5+5 = 125 , or another six EXes worth
27 EX worth of and 32 EX worth of ... if I don't do any more pulls (I have 64k after the triple master fair). So I haven't reached the point yet but I'm getting very close
Lodge has added quite a bit to income.
(I sure hope I'm using all the correct emoji. I can't see what I'm doing.)
tribal agate
huh weird, it looks good on my end
lunar meadow
Ya, the post has the right emotes to me
trail smelt
I don’t know how y’all ran out of champion spirits haha
I’ve got 2,640 and it keeps increasing
paper summit
whaling
my main guess is, the big influx of PUs that Lodge introduced made people go a bit too wild
lunar meadow
I don’t know how y’all ran out of champion spirits haha
Right?
I have like 110 EX and the ability to do like 15 more now.
I don't have units worth EXing, but never run out of spirits
paper summit
I have a surplus of PUs but I still refuse to give 20 to a single pair without using any CS tickets
I'm sure most people spirit broke did exactly that, a lot
swift swan
I have a surplus of PUs but I still refuse to give 20 to a single pair without u...
Same
Except right now I'm not in a surplus of
paper summit
I even have a bunch of pairs at 15/20 queued for the tickets lol
keen jasper
I have so much Champion Spirits that I could EX more units if I have the PU ticks
onyx ice
Don't remember but Absol-utely had mentioned something about the limit before la...
There was a limit for the 1st banner, don't know if there is a limit again
Back then you couldn't randomly get tickets however
Now you can randomly get tickets from expeditions
Or from lodge guests gifts
onyx ice
I've _somehow_ reached the point where <:iChampSpirit:799683239241318430> limit ...
I think only big whales and fresh players have that bottleneck
proud axle
I am neither.
onyx ice
Not even that sure about fresh players since they won't have 5★ power up either
paper summit
new players have access to Lodge, and they are likely to go too far with PUs on each character
because they don't know any better
it's common they just ignore what the CS tickets even are for at first
a long time player lacking spirits is more a matter of poorly managed resources or too much whaling
proud axle
I'm not real sure how I can manage my resources better
It's weird, my vs ratio used to lean heavily towards , but it's catching up fast
paper summit
could be an unusual high streak of 5* dupes, point is, anyone going for more than one EX per week too often will 100% fall short on spirits eventually
proud axle
This was happening even in the past few months, where I was doing no pulls at all.
I think the last time I did pulls was the third anniversary. And it wasn't many, as I got two of the three early.
Before that, I think I hadn't pulled since the Johto Master Pair trio
My were still catching up to my
I think it's because the Lodge landed in between.
Maybe I should monitor it for the next few months and see if my continue to accumulate fast enough to threaten to overtake my
grand steppe
I want this to be proven
In Pomatools, enter accurate defense values (def & sp.def) to get more accurate outputs.
78 [Strength+0]
99 [Stregnth+7]
108 [Strength+7/Def+1]
114 [Strength+12]
Also make sure the target has Enlightenment 5 as a Skill set.
zinc island
You can do it as much as you want each week if you have unlock the MM for that r...
With the rewards i mean, qmd master mode once you reach 10K doesn't really make any difference anymore.
proud axle
Maybe that recently-announced event format, modeled after Champion Stadium, will help scratch that itch
Though. Five battles with all the same weakness... that does mean digging deeper into the roster
Or offtyping four times and ontyping once
full mesa
Depends on your roster. F2p runs will be fun to watch.
zealous karma
I want this to be proven
Hope this does not dissapoint (sparks recent vlear)
proud axle
Your middle: It's a bird
Your left: It's a plane
Your right: It's... Superman????
rotund lagoon
knotty vale
i need help making a team for Iris. I misread how CS worked and went in assuming I could reuse charas from the E4 fights into the Champion round, so I used up all my Built supports. can anyone here, if built, Not Die long enough to let Bea do her thing?
or should i just give up and wait for reset
mellow linden
Where are your Legendary Adventures pairs?
spring axle
probably under the 'striker' tag, i filtered to supports/techs here
Not all of them are strikers tho
mellow linden
There’s multiple Support Legendary Adventures pairs
knotty vale
if they're not here, then i used them in a prev stage
mellow linden
So you already used Hop and Sycamore?
knotty vale
yup.
mellow linden
Ok
knotty vale
again, idiot who misread and thought the Champion fight let you reuse pairs
mellow linden
Maylene + Marley time, I guess
Or Marley + any Attack buffer, really, if you grid Marley for Team Sharp Entry
knotty vale
marley the girl with the arcanine?
knotty vale
bc of the spd all?
mellow linden
And she can be gridded for Team Sharp Entry (+1 crit for the team on entry)
Plus some other slightly more niche utility options
proud axle
(Her bulk's pretty good for a 3star, at that)
knotty vale
that's mostly what i'm looking for
everyone else i have left folds fast to that hydregion
proud axle
are dirt-cheap right now from the Kanto villain events
So you can easily get some 3stars (such as Marley) to 4star for a bit of a boost
knotty vale
oh, stamina, my beloathed.
proud axle
Because it's balanced properly around it, yeah
To balance "properly" around the old "nothing costs stamina" style, everything had to be a horrifying grind...
onyx ice
Though. Five battles with all the _same_ weakness... that _does_ mean digging de...
Not a big problem if they don't give them stuffs like though skin 5 or something similar
proud axle
Don't jinx it
onyx ice
I mean not that stuffs like piercing w
Blows units can't brute force
Can't immagine having to on type ice with 5 different teams
However i can't find myself in a scenario where are the bottleneck over
However I still have a lot of waiting for a pool update
prime warren
You ain't telling me either of rats or any other T0 DD would struggle even with TS5
onyx ice
You ain't telling me either of rats or any other T0 DD would struggle even with ...
Tbolt red has piercing blows built-in in b volt tackle so it should be an issue at all
proud axle
However i can't find myself in a scenario where <:iChampSpirit:79968323924131843...
Hm. How many do we get per 10k?
onyx ice
35
To keep up with we will need 14 each week
I don't think the average non 
can get more than an average of 14 a week
proud axle
To keep up with <:iChampSpirit:799683239241318430> we will need 14 <:iGoldPowerU...
We get 40 per month from the monthly shop and the new Lodge Guest
So that's already 10
We get another two or more from each event, and there are... maybe three or four in a normal month?
onyx ice
We get 40 per month from the monthly shop and the new Lodge Guest
Assuming we have the 
and the base pair (that can be limited gatcha)
proud axle
And then there are the from the 10k itself
Is Gauntlet monthly or is that more of a "sometimes" thing
If it's regular, maybe we should include the rewards from reaching the winstreak for the last main milestone reward
onyx ice
We need 100 to get the 20 from the shop, so isn't a thing i would account for
proud axle
We need 100 <:iSilverPowerUp:822502010547994644> to get the 20 <:iGoldPowerUp:79...
My was low until Lodge and has been gradually climbing since, even with 100 used each month
I stopped checking my Rare Cache contents-- just clicking to claim them and dismissing the window without looking at what I got-- but maybe the income is surprisingly high
keen silo
We need 100 <:iSilverPowerUp:822502010547994644> to get the 20 <:iGoldPowerUp:79...
100?
proud axle
5 per, yeah
keen silo
o
onyx ice
Personally i'm not that high in and i NEVER exchanged them
proud axle
Well, more like we need 80 per month since we get 20 from cheapo trades
(I don't think I've ever seen a stamina-per- exchange rate as cheap as the current Kanto rerun)
onyx ice
Yes this one is really cheap
proud axle
Personally i'm not that high in <:iSilverPowerUp:822502010547994644> and i NEVE...
Do your Lodge expedition teams both have 10 Rare cache?
onyx ice
<:HilbertHmm:625860604347023360> Do your Lodge expedition teams both have 10 Rar...
Yes they have
proud axle
Odd indeed...
onyx ice
But i made 5★ almost every non eggmon unit
proud axle
Oh. That'd do it
onyx ice
I mean the primary use for is to 5★ units, than if i will get a surplus i can start exchanging them
proud axle
I have... 66 4stars still at 0/20
Because they work fine at 4star
I have some particularly important units promoted to 5star
Like, I don't think I'm going to need to 5star Lucy
Or Jessie or James
low linden
I need more , too bloated on
proud axle
Or my default Pikachu
proud axle
I need more <:iSilverPowerUp:822502010547994644> , too bloated on <:iBronzePower...
I'd love to be able to exchange another 20 per month. Then maybe my stockpile will start shrinking instead of growing
onyx ice
I promoted almost every 3 and 4 ★ gatcha, but ofc Jessie and James are still base 4★ until they will get a grid
Expecially Jessie
At least James is decent
low linden
It's so bad my ratio is 1:12
proud axle
James could actually use the stats for tanking a little, but even so...
Like, Janine(Ariados), Koga, and Cheryl were already 5star 0/20 when I did the Kalos Extremes, because they're that good
keen silo
5 per, yeah
I didn't realise it was that good of a rate 💀 just assumed it was 20 per
proud axle
It feels like more because we don't get as many as
But we seem to have more income lately
dark osprey
Let's all storm DeNA with this suggestion
proud axle
Maybe Ketsuban has had less profit than me because they've been immediately using them on Lodge Pairs?
Some of those are pretty good...
And quite a few are Supports no less
knotty vale
Maylene + Marley time, I guess
marley/maylene/bea succesfully nabbed me the trophy! ty for the suggestion!
old orchid
the best of them is Wulfric
sacred mountain
Is this CS easier than sinnoh?
dark osprey
~~...Is Marlon good?~~
The grid did make him slightly better
proud axle
Is this CS easier than sinnoh?
Much
Sinnoh's one of the hardest in the game
This one's maybe the "hardest" among the easy ones
Oh, wait, Alola might be in that slot?
sacred mountain
I miss when it was only Kanto and johto
proud axle
Those're jokes with today's level of powercreep
dark osprey
Yeah. Even some Johto ones like that crit shield fire weak kogados, wise entry kogamoth were slightly difficult a while ago
keen silo
Sinnoh's the hardest for me
proud axle
...Is Wise Entry even ever a problem without Smart Cookie and Brute Wits?
Wait, what Wise Entry?
keen silo
Bro's got the 💰 💰
keen silo
I have... 66 4stars still at 0/20
Damn, I have 34 of those, with the exception of Drake and Maylene none of them have been used more than 3 times ever
proud axle
And I suspect another 20+ would've been able to do their work just fine at 4star
keen silo
And I suspect another 20+ would've been able to do their work just fine at 4star
Not an issue
I just exchanged 100 4 star power ups after you told me the exchange rate 💀
dark osprey
Wait, what Wise Entry?
That was wise entry before it was cool
Just higher special defense
formal musk
wise entry 🤓 🤓 🤓
swag bag 😎 😎 😎 😎 😎
proud axle
Either way: "lmao just crit through it"
dark osprey
Haha. We learned the hard way
hidden ore
Thanks @dark osprey & @old orchid !
Mina test is successful
Had to adjust different parameters than on document, because of the sides killing with aoe
Team was good and is
Can’t wait for Mina’s EX
old orchid
swift swan
Mina love, I'm glad to see it
zealous karma
Mina +‘sycamore is a free fairy clear it’s quite swag too
Ex mina with a nice light blue outfit 
versed meteor
Lol am i the only one unable to use Mina well
grand trout
Do you debuff the opponent to -6 atk first
grand trout
Mina +‘sycamore is a free fairy clear it’s quite swag too
I wish there was a way for either to increase atk and crit faster
trail smelt
Lol am i the only one unable to use Mina well
Me too lol
I never see what other people see in her
toxic cobalt
You just debuff and attack
trail smelt
Because lack of fairy supports LMAO
keen jasper
SS Wally rerun when?
dark osprey
Sycamore is there with an EX too now
trail smelt
Only +1 Crit is sad but oh well I’ll take what I can get
dark osprey
The others are like Lillie and the Azumarill girl not like fairy supports matter. Sycamore does solid damage too along side mina and crit+attack bigger
hidden ore
Yup, Sycamore helps with sides so much
For Iris I’ve used Bea + new Hop combo
Not sure if I can call it broken
swift swan
Mina + Sycamore + Hop is completely f2p and can clear drasna fairy-weak
dark osprey
Yeah. That seems to be a good benchmark to measure them
sinful garden
Does 1/5 CMarnie 2k dark weak?
its a cakewalk with her
she can pretty much offtype almost every 2k csmm
marsh crater
Why cant just do mm when already beat hard mode with 15 types. Have to wait for 2 weeks with all content beat is so boring. At least can challenge myself in csmm
full mesa
In general the combination of Sycamore/Hop/"insert unit" can beat almost every stage.
mellow linden
But for Champion Stadium it’s almost always better to split Sycamore and Hop across 2 different teams
weak sleet
Does this work at 2k? This is round 3. I have this and steel left.
toxic cobalt
Diantha does work at 2k
weak sleet
Diantha does work at 2k
Should I change the supports or anything?
toxic cobalt
I don't think Cynthia is doing much
dark osprey
I guess it's for accuracy
weak sleet
I honestly have no clue, it's an old team I had lying around.
zealous karma
Only +1 Crit is sad but oh well I’ll take what I can get
I usually run Hop + Sycamorw when using beta
frank shuttle
God I love this team I might have to up the Points a little more to see what I can do
swift swan
easy 2k right there
zealous karma
that team can 3K lel
keen jasper
that team can 3K lel
More like 4k
zealous karma
yiud need flinch
zealous karma
Iris has low hp
bright furnace
that team can 3K lel
3k is starting to be easy for you. time to make things harder lol
keen jasper
Time for 21.5k pts.
onyx ice
Technically we are still at hard lv1, but the medal is the 1★ one, so technically we could reach up to hard lv4 for the 4★ medal
woeful wave
not ready just yet
rotund lagoon
Hmmm should I do Valerie or Mina this Fairy weak? 
(Either will be supported by zone)
dark osprey
Kali
rotund lagoon
Kali Draining Kiss DPS 
rotund lagoon
Lol I’ll do Valerie, but I guess I’ll try Kali for a test team
dark osprey
Like Valerie plus EX sycamore will be nice
rotund lagoon
I’m doing SS Brendan, SS Wally and Valerie
dark osprey
Oh yeah forgot zone
zealous karma
Ssbrendan can out DPS Valerie on type without zone I think
rotund lagoon
….I forgot to set zone
dark osprey
With that team I guess Kali is definitely doable
Wally's sync does one shot the center or close to it
zealous karma
Wally’s first sync can one shot first sync off type lel
rotund lagoon
Done in #1073655215363985498
warped jungle
Is ALillie good for fairy weak or Sycamore better?
long thicket
I don't think many people use Sycamore for Fairy damage.
Horn leech plus boosting sync are his highlights, I'm pretty sure.
Anni Lillie is a striker, so her Fairy damage will be much better.
But no Fairy sync.
long thicket
Mhm, I see?
warped jungle
Wait a minute, let me make a few makeshift teams
long thicket
Are you just starting up the game?
warped jungle
Nah
I have done CS before. But just once.
I can make normal teams, the problem is using all the types. That's what confuses me
Who do I use as a steel dps??
long thicket
Oh well depending on your roster, it could be a pain.
warped jungle
If none of them are good, I can try to off type usi g SSRed
long thicket
But you have to complete the emblem by winning a fight from the month with an unit for every sync type.
warped jungle
Yeah that's what makes my brain hurt. I can't make teams like that
long thicket
Supports can afford to be off-type without much consequences.
warped jungle
Who do I use as a steel dps??
What do I use for steel dps?
long thicket
You'll need to upgrade, but I don't have experience with Colress yet.
Solgaleo could be decent.
I don't really like using any Grimsley, but that's me.
warped jungle
Maybe use something off type??
sinful garden
zerena, cmarnie or ssethan could offtype easily if you struggle
long thicket
Depends on the types you need to complete, then.