#Champion Stadium

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neon kiln
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I did it

smoky juniper
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Is siebold 2k possible if my best Grass units are SS Leaf and SS Erika?

zealous karma
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I take it no Brendan sceptile?

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But that sounds more than doable

smoky juniper
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Are they worth it?

proud axle
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Don't underestimate Sycamore/Xerneas for this fight. He can grid for Impervious and hit the weakpoint with Horn Leech

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SSErika and Lyra, together, can give him the buffs he needs for it

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SSErika still has to worry about acc down, but it's less worrisome if the other half of your offense (Sycamore) is immune. And he gives +6 SpDef to the team, too

neon kiln
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is this team enough to beat drasna?

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it did said that her team can poison my team, i dont have chingling to counter that

void wyvern
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Why don’t you have Mewtwo from Legendary adventures?

keen jasper
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Fighting and dark-weak next week, you know what that means

paper summit
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2 master pairs that strong wasted on type, smh

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but yeah, I feel for Caitlin and Iris lol

gray badge
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Yeah I saw the lined up and just went oof. They are not gonna have a good time

neon kiln
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Maybe i should then

keen jasper
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And also, Giovanni's power ups are rerunning this month

neon kiln
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Yea i will get him then

void wyvern
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You should should get all of them. No reason not to.

keen jasper
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Yeah, but you'll have to wait for their power ups

dim depot
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What are people using against Siebold? Can't mess around with this one.

void wyvern
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Can you show your grass types and we can come up with a team?

dim depot
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I did end up winning, but I'll need to do it again because I noticed I haven't been unlocking the custom music option because I'm not clearing these with no faints.

swift swan
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RosaThink you need to win with no sync pairs dying to unlock the custom music?

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I don't think that's how it works... you just need to clear it at least once, no? then once you reset the CS you should be able to use custom music

trail smelt
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Yeah you just need to beat the stage once to use your own music

marsh crater
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My grass type

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My gardenia at 5/5. Should i put dauntless on her?

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Spam that razor leaf?

paper summit
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Grid sunny disposition and use her alongside SS Erika

marsh crater
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Can i use blue exeggutor for support

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I have enough lodge material to make him 3/5

swift swan
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blue's a physical support. for gardenia you'd rather have a special support

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blue and ss erika run well together though

onyx ice
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For Siebold, Serena works wonders

keen jasper
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Not bad actually, she could see use for F2P teams

onyx ice
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You don't have to worry about muddy water if the opponents are asleep

old orchid
zealous karma
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Mine is Ethan

keen jasper
proud axle
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You mfs are forgetting Ethan

old orchid
undone brook
# neon kiln

nice! i tend to run bianca sabrina and gio on psychic week if you haven't done it yet

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sabrina has to focus on buffing gio's spatk rather than using it for heals tho

manic mica
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How to beat seabold guys he keeps kills my pairs

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I was using ghetsis, aaron, sabrina, due to i dont have good grass types

undone brook
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MM or hard?

manic mica
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Mm 1500 points

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I was trying 1500 my previous best 1000 per fight

undone brook
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Can I see your grass units?

manic mica
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Those are my grass units😭

undone brook
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awe darn :(

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Is this pre-sync or post-sync?

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Params might have something to do with it

manic mica
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Those are my roster only use geo, Sycamore & Bianca for physic

manic mica
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Post sync

undone brook
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I did pre-sync with Meganium Lyra, Silver, and SS Erika

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3/5 Mallow might be able to do some nice nuking? Not sure tho

manic mica
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I have lyra, silver but no erika 😭

undone brook
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darn :(

manic mica
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Can Serena works with may rain dance 💃

undone brook
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CSerena?

keen jasper
manic mica
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Yes cm serena greninja

keen jasper
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Only when you use her water sync

manic mica
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Water sync nuke right

keen jasper
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Yes

manic mica
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Can aaron help me to take some 👊

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Pls 🙏see my pairs and pls suggest

keen jasper
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You're trying to clear Siebold right?

manic mica
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Only physic done with geo, bianca and Sycamore

mellow linden
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Champ Serena + Winona + tank would probably work

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Could use May instead of Winona, but if it’s Hard Mode then use Winona for type medal if Flying isn’t already covered

manic mica
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Blastoise can help as tank or skyla, no its mm 1500 point post sync or should i try pre sync

mellow linden
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Shouldn’t matter much on the parameters for Champ Serena. SS Blue would likely be slightly better since Team Shout can potentially help finish up Serena’s Sp. Atk. buffs, but make sure you won’t need him elsewhere if you plan to use him (same with Skyla if you plan to use her, obviously)

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Oh, just make sure to turn off the “No Stat Reductions” parameter

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So Water Shuriken will actually debuff

keen silo
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siebold needs sp atk debuffed, otherwise tanking is kind of a pain

mellow linden
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Good thing Champ Serena can potentially debuff Sp. Atk.

keen silo
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^

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maybe accuracy too so the attack can miss

mellow linden
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Yep

manic mica
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Ok i will try with serena without using no stat reduction parameters lets hop able to clear the stage

keen silo
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Gl 👍

proud axle
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Wait

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You're going to give rain

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to Siebold?

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Is... that a good idea MonkaScottie

mellow linden
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…We’ll find out

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I saw Champ Serena and immediately thought “off-type time”

proud axle
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SieboldMenacing "Call an ambulance! But not for me."

mellow linden
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Worst case scenario a switch to an SS Hilda team happens

proud axle
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V for victory!

keen silo
onyx ice
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I should try the frogs + 6ex Kris

proud axle
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I mean, there are easier ways to make Muddy Water deal 1.5x damage to you

keen silo
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Why make 1.5x damage to opponents muddy water when you can 1.5x damage your moves as well

mellow linden
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No point worrying about it at this point, it either works or it doesn’t

keen silo
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^
if it works, HOORAY!
if it doesn't, its ok, we can try again with a different team!

proud axle
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If Sycamore's still available, they could grid him for Impervious, pair him with Gardenia, and add a Support to raise his Atk and Crit for Horn Leech

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No need for Sun; Gardenia can invert Acc debuffs that land on her and Sycamore will be immune to the ones that land on him

mellow linden
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He’s not, they used him for Drasna

proud axle
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Darn

keen silo
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Yeah not surprising

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Sycamore works best in that stage

proud axle
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This gets trickier, then. Silver/Ho-oh could work but that's water-weak so it's risky

mellow linden
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Or just…SS Hilda, if the Rain team fails

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SS Hilda + Blaine + tank

proud axle
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They could also somehow speedrun Sycamore to Friendship100 in the Lodge and get his Bulbasaur

keen silo
proud axle
keen silo
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I would've used silver but stage was made for sc rosa

mellow linden
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I doubt he’d be as effective as SS Hilda and they don’t have SS Morty

proud axle
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...What? Use him in place of Blaine

keen silo
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He doesn't seem too shabby for the stage though

proud axle
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To give sun to SSHilda

mellow linden
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Shoehorning Silver in there would just make things unnecessarily complicated

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Stick with the simple plans 1st, then try more complex stuff if the simple plans fail

proud axle
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I'm not real sure this plan is all that complex

mellow linden
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Maybe complex isn’t the right word in this case, but the point is that it’s easier to just have the on-demand Sun than to try and play around Silver’s Sync

keen silo
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Rather have the simple blaine sun and ss hilda strike, especially if the support tank is EX

mellow linden
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They can even grid Blaine for Sync nuke if they need more damage than a 1/5 SS Hilda Sync provides

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But I doubt they’d need more than 1/5 SS Hilda

keen silo
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Blaine has a sync grid now Blobfish

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Didn't even know

proud axle
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Looks like he has +100% worth of sync multipliers in his grid, or quad damage if we include his innate multiplier as a Tech

mellow linden
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It’s pretty good, it’s sorta like Winona’s except replace interference effect stuff with Sync nuke, iirc

proud axle
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His base Atk is really really low, though...

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And does this player have the orbs to grid for that? HilbertHmm

onyx ice
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So far i think may best results against Siebold are 6ex SS Erika + Jasmine + Lyra and SS Morty + Serena + Brendan/Silver/ss erika

proud axle
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I took him out on Round 4 with Lyra + Maxie + SSErika (I might've done it on Round 1 but someone needed help with a Dark team... and then accused me of not helping them after I demonstrated it...)

onyx ice
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I guess Deoxys may offtype but I'm not sure about him tanking muddy waters in attack form

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However he has protect

proud axle
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He Protecc and he Attacc

dark osprey
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Gardenia, Blaine and Sycamore is kinda nice now

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As an f2p kinda core

onyx ice
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If he can tank the 1st muddy water he can protect against the second and Roxanne can wide guard the 3rd

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Otherwise i guess running Serena may be an option

keen jasper
woeful wave
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ok, @zealous karma @proud axle I think the enemy got too buff XD, I cant beat them just yet

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with higher points. so I will lower them for now

hollow night
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First 2000 points

wicked ibex
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I did 1k5 Siebold because I thought he would be difficult but it turned out to be easier than I thought. I'm gonna reset for 10k points.

Is there anything that can be improved? I find Drasna and Diantha quite annoying. I can understand why Diantha hard because I did off-type but can't think of any better team with my roster

mellow linden
swift swan
mellow linden
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A Defense buffer if Sycamore is not replaced

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Oh wait

swift swan
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hmm, Drasna debuffs a lot of stats and even has poison. I think keep Sycamore, replace Sabrina

mellow linden
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My bad, I misread “debuff” as “buff”

onyx ice
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Finally managed to make a -2 sync presync clear with maybun

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Not the best timing for the screen

wicked ibex
swift swan
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who did you tank with? tanking with sycamore might make it hard for you to quadqueue because of team shout

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gridding him with adrenaline can help immensely so you can sync twice before the opponent reaches their first sync

wicked ibex
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yeah I gridded him with Adrenaline so that can I finish Dragna pre-sync

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it's barely done tbh

swift swan
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hmmm can I see the giovanni grid

wicked ibex
proud axle
wicked ibex
proud axle
woeful wave
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@proud axle Acerola high roll flinching 2 times in a roll

proud axle
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Tate can do that too, and deal damage at the same time

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With his own X Atk and Sycamore's Team Sharp Entry 1, Tate can use his TM twice to max his Atk and Crit

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I think this provides more value to the team than Sabrina does.

onyx ice
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Ok Deoxys works even if the oppont uses 3 muddy waters

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Just have to tank the 1st

proud axle
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Deoxys lives in Hoenn, it's where Muddy Water was invented and where there's Too Much Water to boot. This is an ordinary day to him.

onyx ice
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As long as he tanks the 1st he can protect for the second and wide guard blocks the 3rd

swift swan
manic mica
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Done guys seabold done with may swaperd cm serena greninja and blue blastoise thank you for advice 1500 point pre sync

mellow linden
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Well, we found out lol

Congrats!

wicked ibex
swift swan
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yeah, that's why I suggested a special defense debuffer

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so giovanni can focus on nuking

wicked ibex
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ok let's me see

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the only sp.def debuff I have is Oak

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10%, no OaR in his grid

old orchid
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You don't have Lucian?

wicked ibex
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nope

old orchid
swift swan
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but yeah it's random

proud axle
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SPdef debuffs are really uncommon in this game

mellow linden
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At least accessible ones are, anyways

swift swan
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the most accessible for f2p is... what? mind games koga?

mellow linden
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Yeah, I think so

wicked ibex
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yeah, but i think he'd better in poison stall

mellow linden
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Eh, can go either way since Koga’s major contribution to Poison stall is the actual Poison infliction, which Lucy or BP Erika can also handle

wicked ibex
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You're right, i think it's because i don't have enough pairs to see him worth for other team

tender shore
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is champion diantha a phys or sp attacker?

mellow linden
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Which Diantha do you mean, she doesn’t have an alt that would be referred to as “Champion”

tender shore
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the one in champion stadium that you fight

mellow linden
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Oh, you mean her fight this week, got it

tender shore
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yes this week's champion fight

mellow linden
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Ground weak Diantha is entirely physical except for Ancient Power from the right side

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In the future you can check the pomatools link in the pins to see what all opponents have at their disposal

tender shore
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oh I wasn't aware of that
thanks
thank God she's phys I don't think I would have a tank for her if she was sp

onyx ice
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For the ones wondering if rain can be a good idea against Siebold

manic mica
onyx ice
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And for activating calem b Double team

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Without Serena is a pain to set rain/dark zone with calem

tender shore
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bruh I just missed like 3 attacks in a row solar blades. 😭

proud axle
tender shore
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oh siebold applies accuracy penalties no wonder

proud axle
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Yeah, his skillset is mean this week

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All three of his team have On A Roll to increase the chance of the acc down effect happening

onyx ice
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I can still do a "perfect formula" run against him, but is harder

manic mica
proud axle
onyx ice
manic mica
onyx ice
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Plus she needs 3/5 to be any useful

tender shore
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I'd the page just not displaying properly on mobile or is Kalos not listed on the PoMA tools CS info

dim depot
swift swan
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a pop up should appear notifying you to update

tender shore
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I went to the website listed in pins

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ok it just didn't load correctly the first time

neon kiln
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Emma iris ss venus

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My psychic team is so weak that i have easier time going off element

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Now comes the last boss diantha

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Is this team good enough?

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I will raise snivy if this is ok setup

undone brook
weak sleet
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Rosa should be ex...

paper summit
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tbf a new player takes about 1-2 weeks to finish her bingo

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or something along those lines

arctic wren
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struggling a lot with this challenge, any suggestions?

nocturne pawn
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whered your accuracy buffer

undone brook
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@neon kiln you could try this team (or replace winona with may) with permanent field effects so you don't have to manage rain. if you already used gio, just bring someone who can buff crit and let cyrus spam hydro pump

arctic wren
neon kiln
nocturne pawn
neon kiln
undone brook
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Did you?

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Because I gave it a shot with Phoebe and it almost worked too

neon kiln
arctic wren
undone brook
# neon kiln

Yeah, but again, May might be better than Winona for this

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Because of damage

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Syncing with May instead of Cyrus will probably also be better

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Sabrina might also work as a crit buffer, but she can't max it

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At least gridless

teal siren
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Parameters for this battle:
Phys dam red.
Spec. Dam red.
No status
Sync buff 5
No stat reduc
Ally healing down
Power on hit 1
Grad healing
Strength 2
Power on hit 2
Move gauge -2
Strength 6
Do these need to be changed?

marsh crater
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Finally beat 9.1k

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Finish this week cs with my rain team.

onyx ice
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Korinna is pretty underrated

rotund lagoon
onyx ice
rotund lagoon
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WHAT

rotund lagoon
low linden
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Looks like a PMUN stacked close combat LusamineLurk

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And SEUN

onyx ice
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And power reserves 5

low linden
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Also its not because shes underrated but because PR5 is hard to use and its her only multiplier

formal vigil
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max defence debuffs?

low linden
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Bae performs better most of the time

onyx ice
paper summit
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don't forget there is also a Pride master passive in play there

onyx ice
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Korinna works great because she has great stats and bp

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So the multipliers can be patched with op supports

low linden
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Back in the long lost time in BV where korrina was actually abused a bit with PR5

keen silo
onyx ice
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With holiday jasmine isn't that hard to set PR5

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This stage isn't the bestest cuz AOE spam

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Otherwise i could have picked half hp

low linden
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I mean... its the job of op support to enable strikers... otherwise why would it be called op

arctic wren
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I’m struggling a lot with this battle, any suggestions? 😭

arctic wren
onyx ice
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Delphox

arctic wren
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yes i do

onyx ice
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You can use her to put the opponent team to sleep

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If they are asleep they can't muddy water

arctic wren
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should i still keep falkner?

proud axle
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Is Sycamore&Xerneas available?

arctic wren
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used him on wilkstrom

proud axle
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You used the steel-weak tank on the steel fight? MonkaScottie

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Yike. But moving on...

arctic wren
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he was outhealing anyways shrug

proud axle
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Was this Hard or Master mode?

arctic wren
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hard TwT

proud axle
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Oh, looks like it's just Hard

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Hm. What other Grass types do you have, again? HilbertHmm

arctic wren
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i’ll show ya

proud axle
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Sycamore would've been great for this fight since he can grid for Impervious (immunity to the acc debuff) and strike weakpoints with Horn Leech

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Alright, let's see

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Gardenia's looking good...

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If she gets an acc debuff, she can use Trust In Nature to invert it to an acc buff

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And then they need to land two more debuffs to bring her back to the negatives

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She can also grid for Sunny Disposition, to gain immunity to stat debuffs during sun.

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You should also have Silver&Ho-oh, who can provide sun via his sync move and hit the weakpoints with Solarbeam. He doesn't have a good answer for the Acc debuffs, though, and he's weak to water. So this has some risk

arctic wren
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hmm

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let me see

proud axle
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I guess we need to look at what Supports are available next

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You picked a heck of a time to try getting into the Champion Stadium. The Kalos League is hard! Next week it'll be the Unova League, which is much easier

arctic wren
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😭😭

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okay sure sure hold on

arctic wren
proud axle
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Alright, let's see

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Ooh, 3/5 Leaf.

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5/5 Cheryl looks good too...

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EX SSKris? Then there may be an even riskier avenue available to you

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Rain team. Against the water guy.

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Lemme think through a few things before we commit to that, though

proud axle
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Do you happen to have Dauntless as Brendan's lucky skill?

arctic wren
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brendan

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idk all these names man ngl 💀

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if you could refer to the pokémon

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that would be lovely

proud axle
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He is literally in your party right now

undone brook
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sceptile

arctic wren
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oh

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oh yeah he has dauntless

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i don’t think i’d use him without it 😭

proud axle
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Excellent. I think we can do this without sun.

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I'm thinking Brendan&Sceptile, Leaf&Eevee, Selene&Rowlett (but you can evolve the Rowlett)

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Leaf gets the first sync, and maybe every sync, to keep your team's acc in the positives

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Brendan and Selene can raise their own crit. Brendan can reach +3; Selene can only reach +2 but her grass moves have an innate +1crit anyway

arctic wren
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that’s not a bad idea actually

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let me seeee

proud axle
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Yeah, throw some books at Selene (and maybe evo stones) and give it a try? We can troubleshoot some more if it fails

arctic wren
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alright, thank you ^-^

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evolving her rn

proud axle
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(Make sure to use Spirit Shackle of course, so her Leaf Blade gets the "attacking a restrained target" bonus from her passive skill)

arctic wren
arctic wren
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do i need to do anything on her grid

proud axle
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Let me check

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Nothing all that exciting on Selene's grid. Let me check Leaf's

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Leaf/Eevee has a lot of cool stuff on it

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You could go for Tackle Staggering, and Recuperation, or you could go in the opposite direction for potion upgrades

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I'll leave it up to you. If you're not confident, I think I'd recommend the potion stuff

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As for Brendan... you can reach one of his +5 Leaf Storm Acc tiles in the upper right, I think. This can make +0acc less depressing.

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90% hitrate to 95%. In other words, it misses half as often

arctic wren
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is it worth candying brendan rn though

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he’s 2/5

onyx ice
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Never worth for general pool units

arctic wren
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mkay

onyx ice
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Candies should be used only on limited units

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Brendan can always pop up in any banner

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But you can't really randomly get a limited unit

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(i mean you can if you summon for something like the lodge banner)

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Tried the same Korinna's setup with Bruno, not as effective

arctic wren
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haha alr alr

arctic wren
proud axle
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Depends on your team, I suppose

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Enemy has frequent Speed and SpAtk debuffs

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If you have Courtney and/or Cynthia, then permanent fields can be useful so Ground Zone and/or Sandstorm don't need to be recast

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I guess we can start by asking what your sync pairs who know ground-type moves roster is. (This is not necessarily your ground-type roster, as it includes ones like Leon/Charizard)

onyx ice
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Second one is useful if you are using a special damage dealer

proud axle
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The boss's frequent teamwide SpAtk debuffs might otherwise throw a wrench in a special attacker plan, though, so watch out

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Maybe you can do something with a rain team. I realize you've already used up SSKris, but maybe you have enough left over...?

arctic wren
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i did get cynthia recently…

proud axle
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You can filter your roster by Known Moves: Type: Ground

onyx ice
arctic wren
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why isn’t it letting me leave this damn select screen

arctic wren
proud axle
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She's not great, but being on-type gives her an advantage if your roster is limited

arctic wren
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can i change my selection later or is it a set in stone thing

proud axle
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Set in stone unfortunately

paper summit
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go in and then back

arctic wren
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time to restart ig

proud axle
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Huh?

paper summit
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you are misunderstanding their question

arctic wren
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like reopen the app

onyx ice
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Even if you start the battle isn't set in stone

proud axle
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Oh, the battle

paper summit
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no need to kill the app, just go into team selection and then back out

arctic wren
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ah yeah alr

proud axle
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...Wait what was the question

paper summit
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the popup to select an extra param from previous rounds

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doesn't let you back out until you go in to make a team

onyx ice
proud axle
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Oh, that

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Yeah, you can even go in, get your butt kicked, and then come back later-- and still be allowed to pick a different round parameter

onyx ice
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Ground i think is the most premium type

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Premium options are pretty busted

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But f2p ones are kinda bad

proud axle
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Cynthia (with many dupes) and Maxie, huh

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Gioking

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I'm still waiting for Gioking to rerun on a banner where I don't already have everyone else on it...

onyx ice
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Gioking is pretty busted for on type (but is great even offtype)

arctic wren
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okay here’s everyone that knows a ground type move

onyx ice
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I killed diantha turn 2

proud axle
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Ooh

arctic wren
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may maybe?

proud axle
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You could do something very silly with this

arctic wren
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MAYbe?

proud axle
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May and Courtney with a support

onyx ice
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Courtney is pretty good

arctic wren
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bad joke

teal siren
arctic wren
proud axle
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But first, is May still available or did you use her with SSKris

arctic wren
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nahhh

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she’s available

proud axle
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Oh cool, then maybe we can find a way to do this

arctic wren
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okayyyy

proud axle
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May's even 3/5? This is looking good

onyx ice
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Clay is a decent sync nuker

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But you need to grid him

proud axle
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Courtney is 2/5 so she can max crit on her own; May has Dire Rain so she can get to effectively 3 crit on her Earth Power with just her two TMs...

arctic wren
proud axle
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So we need SpAtk and a lot of Speed

proud axle
arctic wren
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yeah

proud axle
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It makes her regular moves, such as Earth Power, act like she has +1 more crit than she actually has

arctic wren
#

mhm

proud axle
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This is a confused huh, right? I can't tell.

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Workplace filter

arctic wren
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ohhhh wait nvm i get it

arctic wren
proud axle
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Thanks, I can see that one

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Alright, let me scroll back up and go get that image of all your Supports again

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SpAtk and Speed... Roxanne would be good but she's kinda fragile.

onyx ice
#

Persian still 1/5?

proud axle
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Persian has... not Speed but gauge accel, which might still be helpful

arctic wren
proud axle
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I want actual Speed though, to counteract the debuffs that the boss has

onyx ice
arctic wren
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hold on

proud axle
#

Falkner can give the team Speed if he Fly-dodges something. That's a little tricky to do, though, and it slows your sync cycles down (takes 2 turns but only advances your sync countdown by 1)

onyx ice
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Even base 5* is free for him

arctic wren
#

guess not

onyx ice
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The only non free thing is the 6ex

proud axle
#

Since this is "just" Hard mode, maybe you can bring Falkner in and just... Fly when it's about to be Diantha's turn

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And hopefully she's going to do an attack for him to dodge

arctic wren
#

alright

proud axle
#

That way her debuffs won't land in the first place and Falkner gives Speed to the team

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I don't recommend trying this on Master Mode but it can be a thing for Hard

arctic wren
#

so may, camerupt lady, and falkner?

proud axle
#

Yeah, I think I'd try that

arctic wren
#

alright i’ll let you know how it goes ^-^

proud axle
#

Good luck!

arctic wren
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thank you!

proud axle
#

I think I'd try it something like this...
Turn 1: Ground Wish, Rain Dance, Soar
Enemy: Diantha hopefully uses X Speed All, or at least doesn't use Head Smash
Turn 2: Delete, Ready For This, Dire Hit Plus All
Enemy: Right sidekick does something
Turn 3: Bulldoze, Earth Power, Fly
Enemy: Diantha hopefully takes a swing at Falkner and misses
May can sync to mega evolve, or Courtney can sync to deal damage
Turn 4: Bulldoze or Delete, Earth Power, Falkner lands from Fly
Enemy: left sidekick does something
Turn 5: Bulldoze, Earth Power, Fly
Enemy: Diantha does something. Hopefully it's an attack.
Turn 6: Bulldoze, Earth Power, Falkner lands from Fly
Enemy: Diantha uses X Defense All
Turn 7: Bulldoze, Earth Power, hope Diantha is out of the fight

arctic wren
#

shit i died

arctic wren
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but the fly risky

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it works though

nocturne pawn
#

fly just needs timing

proud axle
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Yeah, it's why I wouldn't wanna use it in Master Mode

rotund lagoon
arctic wren
#

i’ll go again

proud axle
#

Damn, so close

rotund lagoon
#

Looks like it just needs another try.

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These things happen.

proud axle
#

Or maybe some regridding...

arctic wren
arctic wren
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honestly

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i missed the last fly 😭

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i think that was def why i lost

proud axle
#

It's okay, Falkner's damage isn't important. We just want to prevent Diantha from landing hits for as long as possible

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The first one is basically unavoidable or else we sacrifice our first sync's timing, but if you look at that plan again... Falkner is always airborne for each turn that Diantha attacks until her first sync

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(Can't dodge a sync)

arctic wren
#

mmm yeahhhh

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alright!

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i’ll go again

proud axle
#

Good luck. Kalos League is hard!

arctic wren
proud axle
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You got em?

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It looks like you got em

arctic wren
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yes yes yessss

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yay

paper summit
#

Earth Power May? interesting, glad you made it lol

arctic wren
arctic wren
paper summit
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yes, but it can't be done in one week anyway

proud axle
#

Yeah, and it can't be done in one week (15 party slots, 18 types)

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Finish the medal to unlock Master Mode for that region's league (including if it reruns in later months)

arctic wren
#

ooooh i see

paper summit
#

next week is Unova, so you can work on that one just fine, Kalos will have to wait until it comes back

arctic wren
#

one week for each region right?

paper summit
#

your progress carries over

proud axle
#

Unova is easier, it won't be so bad to slip some off-types into your teams

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Month

paper summit
#

2 weeks minimum, 15 types max on one week, 3 on the other

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but you can distribute types a bit more evenly so teams aren't as restrictive

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just come here next week and we can help out

arctic wren
#

yay oki

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tysm all of you :D

tired sleet
#

Also might want to check ng-pomatools.web.app for the Champion Stadium opponent kits

tired sleet
#

Wait which stages have you already beat?

spring axle
nocturne pawn
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save wikstrom for r4

tired sleet
#

Psychic Weak Drasna should probably be something with Giovanni

nocturne pawn
#

hes super annoying to deal with without it

spring axle
#

Sorry I’m not following

tired sleet
#

Round 4 has a parameter that gives the Light Screen effect iirc

nocturne pawn
#

which benefits you

spring axle
#

I see

mellow linden
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  • Olivia + Bertha + Hop (grid Olivia for Sand Blaster, Inertia, and Stone Edge Amped Up, Hop needs his MP Refreshes)

  • Cyrus + Roxanne + Winona (grid Cyrus for Critical Focus + Hydro Pump Ramming Speed, Roxanne needs her MP Refreshes)

Should be able to off-type the remaining 2 Elite 4

spring axle
#

Thank you for clarifying

tired sleet
mellow linden
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Then you can do something like Courtney + Shauna + Skyla for Diantha

tired sleet
nocturne pawn
#

its definitely halved damage

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thunderbolt on hilbert only did 300 vs the usual 600

mellow linden
#

In which case it’d be Giovanni + Rosa + Marley, most likely

spring axle
#

Is there no way to search?

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I’ve forgotten some characters faces

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Don’t know who Olivia is

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Unless I’m just blanking

mellow linden
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Lycanroc-Midnight, 5-star Rock Strike pair

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You have her 3/5

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She’s bonkers at 3/5

tired sleet
spring axle
mellow linden
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She’s the best non-limited Rock damage-dealer in the game

tired sleet
#

Regardless, if its on type giovanni should probably be better

spring axle
#

How many are limited that are better than her?

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Ah

tired sleet
marsh crater
#

Still waiting for mama olivia to come to me

nocturne pawn
#

basically every limited rock damage dealer is better than her

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ss diantha is also a damage dealer

mellow linden
#

Olivia can easily handle all Rock weak content except maybe Rock weak Malva on Master Mode

tired sleet
#

~~She’s a hybrid DianthaSmile ~~

spring axle
tired sleet
#

Yes

spring axle
#

I see

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Also Cobalt I don’t think I have enough of the Sync grid things to get the stuff on the board

tired sleet
#

That’s alright, a minimal grid should be fine for most (and no grid would also be fine for some)

spring axle
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I’m also not good at gridding

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More of a visual guy

mellow linden
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Minimal stuff needed:

  • Olivia: Sand Blaster, Inertia, Stone Edge Amped Up

  • Hop: Hop to It! MP Refresh, ideally-but-not-required Potion MP Refresh

  • Cyrus: Critical Focus, ideally-but-not-required Hydro Pump Ramming Speed

  • Roxanne: Study Buddies! MP Refresh

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Focus on Cyrus and Roxanne 1st

spring axle
#

Alright

mellow linden
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If you can’t finish with Olivia’s team that’s fine, you’ll be able to use Giovanni + Rosa + Marley with no grid tiles for Drasna on Hard Mode

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Just make sure to 5/5 20/20 Giovanni

spring axle
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Alright Thanks again as always

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Sorry to come back

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But would you recommend a minimum level?

mellow linden
#

120

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120 is cheap, and it is both the minimum and what is generally sufficient for basically all content

spring axle
#

Sounds good

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Thanks again!

spring axle
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Is this right?

mellow linden
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No, you only grabbed one of the 3 tiles I said Olivia would need

spring axle
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Right missing Sand Blaster

mellow linden
#

And Stone Edge Amped Up

spring axle
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Got this off the Bot Zone thing

mellow linden
#

You only grabbed Inertia

spring axle
mellow linden
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Yeah, but if you haven't gotten Cyrus and Roxanne's important tiles I recommend doing them 1st since they should be slightly cheaper overall

spring axle
#

Alr

marsh crater
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Oh i didnt have lucky skill cs2 on cmarnie and man she hits hard.

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With my current roster maybe l set for 9k cs at least.

spring axle
mellow linden
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MP Refresh is what she needs

spring axle
#

There’s an MP Refresh for each of her moves right?

mellow linden
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There is, but the one for her Trainer Move (it's called "Study Buddies!") is the important one for this case

spring axle
mellow linden
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No

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Barricade Buddies is an entirely different effect

spring axle
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Am I blind I don’t see study buddies

mellow linden
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It's listed as just "Trainer Move" on pomatools

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You have the MP Refresh on that listed one

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You can tap a tile to read its in-game name and what it does

spring axle
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Should I stop at Study buddies

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Or do I get anything else

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Cuz I could just move on to Cyrus

mellow linden
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Get the MP Refresh for now, since you're short on resources only get stuff you absolutely need for now

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If it turns out you need more tiles then you can grab them

spring axle
#

Sounds good

spring axle
mellow linden
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Yes, but that’s not the vital tile anyways

proud axle
#

Despite the cataclysmic name, Cristastrophe tends to be one of the less-interesting skills you can get

spring axle
proud axle
#

You don't need critastrophe

proud axle
#

I believe it's just... Critical Strike but specific to sync moves

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Whereas actual Critical Strike already affects sync moves

mellow linden
proud axle
#

And this is Cyrus? So he already has Critical Strike 9

mellow linden
#

They are 2 very different tiles

proud axle
#

Oh, yeah, Crit Focus is on the opposite end of the grid

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It gives him a Dire Hit Plus effect whenever he successfully lands a crit.
And oh look, Spatial Rend has a base 50% crit rate!

spring axle
#

I’ll reset board

proud axle
#

Just undo it, it's free

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You can click a node to unlearn it and get the orb back

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(Rather, the orbs will still be attached to Cyrus/Palkia so you can't give them to someone else. You can just spend it elsewhere on their grid)

spring axle
#

This is what it looks like now

proud axle
#

If you have an acc buff source on the team, that is fine

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If you don't, I'd prefer going for Hydro Pump +Acc instead of for Ramming Speed (unless you can afford the orbs for both at once)

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Hydro Pump's base hitrate is kind of uncomfortable

mellow linden
#

Alright, so when using that team Roxanne needs to use “Study Buddies!” 3 times. That means you need an MP Refresh. Cyrus needs to land a crit with Spacial Rend on his 1st or 2nd turn, then he can switch to Hydro Pump. Winona sets Rain so Cyrus does big damage, set it on your 2nd set of 3 actions since Cyrus is spending at least 1 turn not using Hydro Pump

spring axle
#

She’s untouched

mellow linden
#

She doesn’t need grid, no

spring axle
#

Alr

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Who is this team supposed to face?

proud axle
#

If the fight somehow goes on long enough that you run out of rain, you could give her the Shower Sync grid node. This allows you to use her sync as a Rain Dance, once per battle

proud axle
#

It might still win against Siebold but oof

spring axle
spring axle
proud axle
#

If this team fails against... whomever it ends up fighting... my other first instinct would be to move Cyrus' Ramming Speed grid node into Hydro Pump Acc

spring axle
#

So I’ll be ok in that department

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Alr

proud axle
#

Or just buy both if you have the orbs

#

I just really really hate missing

spring axle
#

Don’t have enough unfortunately

proud axle
#

Yeah, then I'd take the nodes out of Ramming Speed for it

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There are two acc nodes, a 5 and a 10

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This brings Hydro Pump's hitrate from 80% to 95%

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And that's much more tolerable

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...It's even a larger average damage increase than Ramming Speed, for Cyrus

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Ramming Speed brings his damage from 190% to 220%. The difference is 1.1579x
Hydro Pump's acc increasing from 80% to 95% is a 1.1875x difference, which is larger

spring axle
#

Special rend

swift swan
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Spacial rend until you crit, then switch to hydro pump

spring axle
#

And after I hit a crit I set Rain Dance

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But what does Roxanne do? Boost D?

swift swan
#

Yes, she's the support to buff cyrus's offenses

nocturne pawn
#

she buffs special atk without the recoil

rotund lagoon
#

And Speed RoxanneThis

spring axle
#

So spam study budddies

swift swan
#

Yes, at least 3 times

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Then just spam her gaugeless move

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TM if you still get refreshes and x defense all

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Only switch to ancient power once you run out of uses

spring axle
#

Who should be getting hit first

spring axle
#

Winona or Roxanne

teal siren
proud axle
#

Half MP? Don't see that every day...

#

What other handicaps did you pick? HilbertHmm

old orchid
#

I prefer using double Grass dmg dealers when I use SS Erika

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Do you have 2/5 Brendan or gridded Gardenia?

teal siren
teal siren
old orchid
#

So use Brendan instead of Blaine

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And grid sun-related tiles in his grid

proud axle
#

I'd get remove Half MP and Strength 1, and replace them with Power Up On Hit 2
But I think something else might be off here

old orchid
#

I was going to say the same thing as well

proud axle
#

This team simply doesn't seem to have enough power to presync win

old orchid
#

Erika wants to pair with another dmg dealer

proud axle
#

There's only so much she can do on her own, especially if she has to resummon the sun

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An EX Support might also help, but I don't know how many others you might have

spring axle
old orchid
#

Roxanne ofc

spring axle
#

Also who’s sync should I be using

old orchid
#

Cyrus

spring axle
#

Roxanne died realll fast

old orchid
#

What params are you using

spring axle
#

I don’t think I’ve unlocked that yet

proud axle
#

Oh, this is Hard and not Master?

spring axle
#

Yep

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I only started like 5 days ago

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And I’ve completed everything else

proud axle
#

Alright, which fight was this again?

marsh crater
#

So unova cs is much easier than kalos cs?

proud axle
#

It is

marsh crater
#

Which region is the hardest cs?

proud axle
#

Kalos is, like, second-hardest of the seven leagues

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Sinnoh is hardest

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Hoenn is just below Kalos

marsh crater
#

Oof ok

proud axle
#

The other four are easy to medium

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If I had to rank them according to difficulty, it'd probably be something like

Hardest
Sinnoh
Kalos
Hoenn
Alola
Unova
Johto
Kanto
Easiest

marsh crater
#

I can do siebold 1.5k with kiawe, silver and ss erika. Rng save my silver at last minute

proud axle
#

Galar doesn't have an Elite Four and we have no Paldea content, so these are the only seven leagues for the foreseeable future

spring axle
proud axle
#

Oh. You don't have Giovanni?

marsh crater
#

Should i try for 2k siebold? Same team

spring axle
proud axle
#

Why're we fooling around with Cyrus when there's a really strong and completely free sync pair that snipes her weakpoint

spring axle
#

Gio and MewTwo?

keen silo
#

I'd say Hoenn and Sinnoh are the 2 hardest for me

proud axle
#

Gio and MewTwo?
Yeah

keen silo
#

Kalos 3rd

spring axle
#

Idk I was made 3 teams

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And I was just using those teams

proud axle
#

Can you show your roster of Psychic pairs?

keen silo
#

^

spring axle
#

Incredibly limited

proud axle
#

Thanks, let's see

keen silo
#

I'd say sycamore gio +1

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If he hasn't used that

proud axle
#

Next we gotta ask what supports are still available

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Could use Roxanne as a "glass support" hiding behind a big beefy tank

teal siren
proud axle
#

Brendan's SpAtk decreased by 2

#

You don't have Dauntless on him...

#

Brendan is practically thirsty for Dauntless

#

He needs it from a Lucky Skill so he can merrily spam Leaf Storm without consequences

teal siren
proud axle
#

Yes.
And there's one other thing, this time in your... technique

#

You didn't attempt the Quadqueue method

keen silo
#

Assuming he's EX

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You're supposed to sync with aaron after these 3 moves

proud axle
#

Oh, their Aaron isn't EX

#

...I don't think

spring axle
keen silo
#

With damage dealer then

proud axle
keen silo
proud axle
# teal siren So add dauntless. Grid Brendan for leaf storm and sun?

Anyway... You've probably noticed by now that each time you use a Sync move, the whole team gains a layer of the Sync Buff, yes?
The Sync Buff increases your team's damage output by +50% each time. The faster you get more layers of this buff, the better you can smite the enemy.
If you do your actions just right, you can get two syncs in before the enemy does one

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And so your damage will snowball much faster than theirs

teal siren
spring axle
zealous karma
#

You can use SSAcynthia to support that team

#

Or Sabrina either or

proud axle
#

Wait, let's check which team needs which

#

AceTreyner was... facing Siebold, and Takt was facing Drasna?

keen silo
#

Yeah

proud axle
#

AceTreyner: Lyra is an amazing support in a sun team like yours

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Lyra and Meganium

#

Alright, so Takt versus Drasna, with Giovanni...

keen silo
#

Lyra also has Light Screen i think

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So it helps with tanking

zealous karma
#

She does have LS ye

keen jasper
#

And if she's 3/5, her Light Screen has a 50% chance to raise your team's Sp. Def.

proud axle
#

Maybe I'd suggest Giovanni/Mewtwo with Roxanne/Probopass as a glass support and Dawn/Turtwig(Torterra) as a tank

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Leaf/Eevee can work as a tank too

teal siren
keen silo
#

Yeah

proud axle
keen silo
#

Dauntless on brendan

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For takt I'd say Giovanni/Roxanne/Hop or dawn

teal siren
proud axle
#

Lyra's bulky on the special defense and glassy on the phys defense
But Siebold's entire offense is special attacks, so Lyra is an iron wall

proud axle
#

Lyra's a great choice for EXing due to strategies like that, but we'll worry about that later

keen jasper
#

Is their SS Erika 3/5?

teal siren
keen silo
#

2

proud axle
#

Looks like 2/5 only

keen jasper
#

Ah, so no SEUN

proud axle
#

Yeah, may as well just Solar Blade

spring axle
proud axle
keen silo
#

1 sec

proud axle
#

I have a moderately cursed Plan B for the Drasna team

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Giovanni/Mewtwo, Will/Xatu, and Falkner/Swellow. It was just earlier today that I mentioned I'd rather not have to do something like this for Master Mode, but here we are...

keen silo
#

If you have the resources , you can try double on a roll 2 smarty pants grid

spring axle
proud axle
#

Then skip it

sick anvil
proud axle
#

I mean, yeah, the Overpowered Pikachus are here

keen silo
#

Yea just skip the sync grid then

spring axle
#

Can’t even get him to level 100 😭

keen silo
#

But cs2 as lucky skill if you can

proud axle
#

But Sinnoh has by far the most Sentryx2 and Wisex2 fights. And even has a Sentry/Wise x3 fight, I believe

spring axle
#

I’m down horrendous

#

Wtf

keen jasper
proud axle
#

...They did?

keen jasper
#

Yeah, Sinnoh back in November and Hoenn back in December

sick anvil
#

no?

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I remember SInnoh before Pikachu

#

cuz everyone running Hau

zealous karma
#

I’m pretty sure hoenn and sinnoh have reran during rats existentce

sick anvil
#

yes

spring axle
#

Should I just skip this CS

keen jasper
spring axle
#

And wait for it to come back around

sick anvil
#

yeah but overall Kalos been easier

#

Glacia steel type was a pain to wreck

keen jasper
keen silo
#

If you just lack the resources its fine to skip, when I first started the game I had to skip a lot of johto CS too

proud axle
#

I think let's count how many Sentryx2 and Wisex2 fights there are in each region, since that's my metric

keen jasper
#

Or do you mean the fights?

sick anvil
proud axle
#

Yeah how many fights, since there are 17 possible fights

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And they always represent all 17 in each month

sick anvil
#

Sinnoh was the only one I have some mixed post syncs

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but yea Wise and Sentryx2 were pain for sure

keen jasper
#

Also, steel-weak Glacia has pretty low HP

keen silo
#

Between Sinnoh and Hoenn idk which gave me the most trouble overall, I just know they gave a lot SophoKEKBoom

sick anvil
#

even Gio King struggle

proud axle
#

So Hoenn has... four. Dark Phoebe (Sentry), Steel Glacia (Sentry), Ice Drake (Wise), Grass Wallace (Wise)

spring axle
#

Ya I think I’ll stand out for this CSI don’t have the orbs for their board or the books to level the characters up

proud axle
#

Counting Sinnoh now

keen jasper
sick anvil
#

I have both Pal Marnie and Gioking

#

but that blizzard

keen silo
#

Steel glacia really means a terrible time hahahaa

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I cba with that so I just used pikachus

#

If steel and electric was in the same week i had to split

proud axle
#

Sinnoh has seven. Electric Aaron (Sentry), Steel Bertha (Wisex3 on sidekicks), Rock Flint (Wise (lol)), Bug Lucian (Wise), Ghost Lucian (Wise), Dark Lucian (Wise), Fairy Cynthia (Wise)

keen jasper
#

So less than Hoenn?

sick anvil
#

how about Kalos

proud axle
#

I'll count Kalos next. I think it might actually have fewer than Hoenn after all

sick anvil
#

I also feel Kalos are more favorable when it comes to Sentry/Wise

#

like easier to get units

proud axle
sick anvil
#

was she Wise entry?

proud axle
#

Kalos has... only two. Rock Malva (Sentry), Bug Siebold (Sentry)

#

I suppose they leaned more on other skills to make this one hard

keen jasper
#

I guess it's made up for the fact that they hit hard

#

Having preemptive fields

proud axle
#

Sentry on Rock is a problem because only two sync pairs have special rock moves. And one of them is Roxanne.

#

It's a similar situation to Steel Glacia

keen jasper
#

Water-weak Malva with preemptive sun with Charging Sun 5, meaning 100% damage boost on moves

sick anvil
#

that stage prob favor +def from SS Diantha

proud axle
#

The other special rock user is Blue/Aerodactyl, who flatout wasn't even available this month

proud axle
keen jasper
#

Ah

proud axle
#

It's even worse CyrusSweat

sick anvil
keen silo
keen jasper
#

And Wikstrom with preemptive steel zone and 30% damage boost under it

proud axle
#

So yeah, Sinnoh really leaned into Sentry/Wise, Hoenn did some of that and some of other mean tricks, and Kalos did very little Sentry/Wise nonsense but a lot of other mean tricks

sick anvil
#

Hoenn was more of Aoe was it

proud axle
teal siren
proud axle
#

I still feel like Kalos was harder than Hoenn overall, I suppose I just can't say it was from Sentry/Wise

proud axle
sick anvil
#

probably more bonus DMG

proud axle
#

...Wait, didn't we have to suggest a team for Takt

#

Fuck we got sidetracked

#

Okay, so, uh, Drasna right?

#

And they had Giovanni and possibly Will

teal siren
proud axle
#

Oh sweet!

keen jasper
sick anvil
keen jasper
#

(I love nitro)

proud axle
sick anvil
#

OH

proud axle
#

...Oh wait, did Takt say they were going to skip CS entirely

#

Fuck

sick anvil
#

He took it seriously

proud axle
#

Ah well

#

On the off chance they come back, we could try suggesting something like Giovanni, Will, and Falkner and come up with a turn order to have Falkner airborne each turn Drasna might swing at him

#

But that's a little cursed

#

I think it's the most likely plan to win, though

#

Since their Sycamore's used up

sick anvil
#

falkner is a bit squishy

keen jasper
#

And he ruins quadqueueing too

sick anvil
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he doesnt have roxxanne?

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He does but Roxanne is even squishier

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They reported that Roxanne died a lot, and this was only on Hard mode

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Also, no orbs

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So no Endure

keen jasper
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Ye, exactly

teal siren
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I’ve already got an off type team who can beat Diantha but I’ve been super eager to try Garchomp. Who is best to pair him with? And he is only 1/5 is it even worth attempting?

proud axle
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And judging by the wall of untrained Lv1 supports, they're very new so they don't have rock gear to offset it

sick anvil
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oh she has 200 hp lower

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than falkner

zinc island
proud axle
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They're asking about a different fight now

zinc island
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Oh ok

proud axle
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Cynthia 1/5, huh...

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She is nigh-useless without Sandstorm

zinc island
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Cynthia 1/5 team magma admin and sonia

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That's how i dod at least

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Fortunately, Acerola's 1/5 grid has both Sandstorm MPR and Astonish Aggravation

keen jasper
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What other ground types are available?

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Gotta see the other options before we start really planning

keen jasper
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Thaaaat is a good point

keen jasper
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I mean, maybe Courtney after all? Maybe Bertha?

sick anvil
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courtney

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bertha is good for cynthia

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free sandstorm no turn needed

proud axle
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So yeah, gotta find out what we can work with here

sick anvil
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meanwhile Clay...

teal siren
sick anvil
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oh you have bertha

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awesome

proud axle
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Damn, I didn't expect the answer to be All Of The Above Plus Naomi

sick anvil
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but courtney 3/5 is blessing

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I say courtney and naomi

proud axle
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Depends on if the Support has Impervious

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The boss has Satisfied Snarl and Ripple Effect

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That could ruin Naomi

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I think we've used Sycamore up... Hm.

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Let me scroll back up and get those screencaps of their supports

sick anvil
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impervious

sick anvil
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Aura Cynthia

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has impervious

proud axle
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Ooh, Leaf/Eevee is here too

sick anvil
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but 3/5

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yes

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but 1/5

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wait

proud axle
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The team does want some Speed, and Leaf can provide it

sick anvil
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but Naomi has Dauntless

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LMAO

proud axle
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Wait, she does?

sick anvil
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yes

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next to her basic too

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5 energy

proud axle
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Ahahahaha wow

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Okay, crisis averted

sick anvil
proud axle
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So we want someone meaty who can provide speed

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Ah, Hilbert's here. 1/5, but... hm.

sick anvil
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umm

proud axle
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Hilbert Naomi Courtney, or Leaf Naomi Bertha...

sick anvil
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marley*

proud axle
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We could also do something really silly

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Naomi has self speed.
So does Cynthia.

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Cynthia Naomi Bertha.

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Bertha tank

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Supportless team

sick anvil
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or run Marley Naomi Courtney

proud axle
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But Cynthia and Naomi are self-sufficient, so yeah

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And with two self-speed units, gauge might not be a problem

teal siren
proud axle
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Oh, Ash was an option!?

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Ahahahahah

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Alright, do it

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Give them the mouse nuke

sick anvil
proud axle
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Now is the perfect time

sick anvil
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I mean

proud axle
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Like, you can do Cynthia/Naomi/Bertha first for funsies

sick anvil
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bertha cynthia naomi

teal siren
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I swear ash pika and red pika are broken! I nickname them Thor and Odin lol

proud axle
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But yeah, you have a magnificent backup plan

sick anvil
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bertha can tank quite well

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this is hard right...

proud axle
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This is MM

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2k

sick anvil
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.........

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3/5 bertha needed

proud axle
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Oof

teal siren
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Backup team it is lol

sick anvil
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yea

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need gritty and sand castle

proud axle
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Just... smite them with Thor's wrath

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Too bad yesterday would have been the best day to do it

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Thursday is named after Thor.

teal siren
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Thanks everyone for the help!

keen silo
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