#Champion Stadium
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Is siebold 2k possible if my best Grass units are SS Leaf and SS Erika?
I have him and Selene too, but not levelled up
Are they worth it?
Don't underestimate Sycamore/Xerneas for this fight. He can grid for Impervious and hit the weakpoint with Horn Leech
SSErika and Lyra, together, can give him the buffs he needs for it
SSErika still has to worry about acc down, but it's less worrisome if the other half of your offense (Sycamore) is immune. And he gives +6 SpDef to the team, too
is this team enough to beat drasna?
it did said that her team can poison my team, i dont have chingling to counter that
Why don’t you have Mewtwo from Legendary adventures?
Fighting and dark-weak next week, you know what that means
2 master pairs that strong wasted on type, smh
but yeah, I feel for Caitlin and Iris lol
Yeah I saw the lined up and just went oof. They are not gonna have a good time
I haven’t do it yet 
Maybe i should then
It's free gems and a free unit
And also, Giovanni's power ups are rerunning this month
You should should get all of them. No reason not to.
Yeah, but you'll have to wait for their power ups
What are people using against Siebold? Can't mess around with this one.
Can you show your grass types and we can come up with a team?
I did end up winning, but I'll need to do it again because I noticed I haven't been unlocking the custom music option because I'm not clearing these with no faints.
you need to win with no sync pairs dying to unlock the custom music?
I don't think that's how it works... you just need to clear it at least once, no? then once you reset the CS you should be able to use custom music
Yeah you just need to beat the stage once to use your own music
My grass type
My gardenia at 5/5. Should i put dauntless on her?
Spam that razor leaf?
Grid sunny disposition and use her alongside SS Erika
blue's a physical support. for gardenia you'd rather have a special support
blue and ss erika run well together though
For Siebold, Serena works wonders
Not bad actually, she could see use for F2P teams
You don't have to worry about muddy water if the opponents are asleep
Viola my favorite Psychic type

Mine is Ethan
Mine is Bede

nice! i tend to run bianca sabrina and gio on psychic week if you haven't done it yet
sabrina has to focus on buffing gio's spatk rather than using it for heals tho
How to beat seabold guys he keeps kills my pairs
I was using ghetsis, aaron, sabrina, due to i dont have good grass types
MM or hard?
Can I see your grass units?
awe darn :(
Is this pre-sync or post-sync?
Params might have something to do with it
Those are my roster only use geo, Sycamore & Bianca for physic
I did pre-sync with Meganium Lyra, Silver, and SS Erika
3/5 Mallow might be able to do some nice nuking? Not sure tho
I have lyra, silver but no erika 😭
darn :(
Can Serena works with may rain dance 💃
CSerena?
Which one?
Yes cm serena greninja
Only when you use her water sync
Water sync nuke right
Yes
You're trying to clear Siebold right?
Yes
Only physic done with geo, bianca and Sycamore
Champ Serena + Winona + tank would probably work
Could use May instead of Winona, but if it’s Hard Mode then use Winona for type medal if Flying isn’t already covered
Blastoise can help as tank or skyla, no its mm 1500 point post sync or should i try pre sync
Shouldn’t matter much on the parameters for Champ Serena. SS Blue would likely be slightly better since Team Shout can potentially help finish up Serena’s Sp. Atk. buffs, but make sure you won’t need him elsewhere if you plan to use him (same with Skyla if you plan to use her, obviously)
Oh, just make sure to turn off the “No Stat Reductions” parameter
So Water Shuriken will actually debuff
siebold needs sp atk debuffed, otherwise tanking is kind of a pain
Good thing Champ Serena can potentially debuff Sp. Atk.
Yep
Ok i will try with serena without using no stat reduction parameters lets hop able to clear the stage
Gl 👍
"Call an ambulance! But not for me."
Worst case scenario a switch to an SS Hilda team happens
V for victory!
As we say "Fight fire with fire, fight water with water"

I guess the idea is that he goes down just after the rain
I should try the frogs + 6ex Kris
I mean, there are easier ways to make Muddy Water deal 1.5x damage to you
Why make 1.5x damage to opponents muddy water when you can 1.5x damage your moves as well

No point worrying about it at this point, it either works or it doesn’t
^
if it works, HOORAY!
if it doesn't, its ok, we can try again with a different team!
If Sycamore's still available, they could grid him for Impervious, pair him with Gardenia, and add a Support to raise his Atk and Crit for Horn Leech
No need for Sun; Gardenia can invert Acc debuffs that land on her and Sycamore will be immune to the ones that land on him
He’s not, they used him for Drasna
Darn
This gets trickier, then. Silver/Ho-oh could work but that's water-weak so it's risky
They could also somehow speedrun Sycamore to Friendship100 in the Lodge and get his Bulbasaur

Depending on whom the tank is, I wonder if Silver might actually be good here. Solarbeam, even with the water weakpoint. 
I would've used silver but stage was made for sc rosa
I doubt he’d be as effective as SS Hilda and they don’t have SS Morty
...What? Use him in place of Blaine
He doesn't seem too shabby for the stage though
To give sun to SSHilda
Shoehorning Silver in there would just make things unnecessarily complicated
Stick with the simple plans 1st, then try more complex stuff if the simple plans fail
I'm not real sure this plan is all that complex
Maybe complex isn’t the right word in this case, but the point is that it’s easier to just have the on-demand Sun than to try and play around Silver’s Sync
Rather have the simple blaine sun and ss hilda strike, especially if the support tank is EX
They can even grid Blaine for Sync nuke if they need more damage than a 1/5 SS Hilda Sync provides
But I doubt they’d need more than 1/5 SS Hilda
Looks like he has +100% worth of sync multipliers in his grid, or quad damage if we include his innate multiplier as a Tech
It’s pretty good, it’s sorta like Winona’s except replace interference effect stuff with Sync nuke, iirc
His base Atk is really really low, though...
And does this player have the orbs to grid for that? 
So far i think may best results against Siebold are 6ex SS Erika + Jasmine + Lyra and SS Morty + Serena + Brendan/Silver/ss erika
I took him out on Round 4 with Lyra + Maxie + SSErika (I might've done it on Round 1 but someone needed help with a Dark team... and then accused me of not helping them after I demonstrated it...)
I guess Deoxys may offtype but I'm not sure about him tanking muddy waters in attack form
However he has protect
He Protecc and he Attacc
If he can tank the 1st muddy water he can protect against the second and Roxanne can wide guard the 3rd
Otherwise i guess running Serena may be an option
"I used the stones to destroy the stones"
ok, @zealous karma @proud axle I think the enemy got too buff XD, I cant beat them just yet
with higher points. so I will lower them for now
First 2000 points
I did 1k5 Siebold because I thought he would be difficult but it turned out to be easier than I thought. I'm gonna reset for 10k points.
Is there anything that can be improved? I find Drasna and Diantha quite annoying. I can understand why Diantha hard because I did off-type but can't think of any better team with my roster
Well I’d say definitely replace Cheryl with someone who can assist with Hop and Korrina’s offensive buffs
Sabrina and Sycamore overlap with the buffs they give to Giovanni. replace one of them with a special defense debuffer, since I don't see a psychic terrain user yet
hmm, Drasna debuffs a lot of stats and even has poison. I think keep Sycamore, replace Sabrina
My bad, I misread “debuff” as “buff”
Finally managed to make a -2 sync presync clear with maybun
Not the best timing for the screen
Yeah, I don't know what to replace Sabrina. Just put her there for triple-queue 
who did you tank with? tanking with sycamore might make it hard for you to quadqueue because of team shout
gridding him with adrenaline can help immensely so you can sync twice before the opponent reaches their first sync
yeah I gridded him with Adrenaline so that can I finish Dragna pre-sync
it's barely done tbh
hmmm can I see the giovanni grid
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
Do you mean you already won against Drasna?
Yep, I just did make a mistake for not choosing 2k Siebold, everything else is done. But I'm gonna reset for 10k so I came here to check if there is any room for improvement
This is gonna sound really stupid, but
Swap Sabrina with Tate.
@proud axle Acerola high roll flinching 2 times in a roll
Tate can do that too, and deal damage at the same time
With his own X Atk and Sycamore's Team Sharp Entry 1, Tate can use his TM twice to max his Atk and Crit
I think this provides more value to the team than Sabrina does.
Deoxys lives in Hoenn, it's where Muddy Water was invented and where there's Too Much Water to boot. This is an ordinary day to him.
As long as he tanks the 1st he can protect for the second and wide guard blocks the 3rd
can you drop 1 OaR tile and pick the sync BP tile at the bottom instead?
Done guys seabold done with may swaperd cm serena greninja and blue blastoise thank you for advice 1500 point pre sync
Well, we found out lol
Congrats!
I think it's okay but I'm concerned about the rate of Sp.def debuff. Need it for Smarty-Pants
yeah, that's why I suggested a special defense debuffer
so giovanni can focus on nuking
You don't have Lucian?
nope

his debuffs mainly come from the unfortuitous
but yeah it's random
SPdef debuffs are really uncommon in this game
At least accessible ones are, anyways
the most accessible for f2p is... what? mind games koga?
Yeah, I think so
yeah, but i think he'd better in poison stall
Eh, can go either way since Koga’s major contribution to Poison stall is the actual Poison infliction, which Lucy or BP Erika can also handle
You're right, i think it's because i don't have enough pairs to see him worth for other team
is champion diantha a phys or sp attacker?
Which Diantha do you mean, she doesn’t have an alt that would be referred to as “Champion”
the one in champion stadium that you fight
Oh, you mean her fight this week, got it
yes this week's champion fight
Ground weak Diantha is entirely physical except for Ancient Power from the right side
In the future you can check the pomatools link in the pins to see what all opponents have at their disposal
oh I wasn't aware of that
thanks
thank God she's phys I don't think I would have a tank for her if she was sp
For the ones wondering if rain can be a good idea against Siebold
Yup mate already tried and succeed serena is so op against seabold or any off type
She was 1/5 used her mainly for the rebuff, the bulk of the damage was done by Kris
And for activating calem b Double team
Without Serena is a pain to set rain/dark zone with calem
bruh I just missed like 3 attacks in a row solar blades. 😭
It can win but is it a good idea
oh siebold applies accuracy penalties no wonder
Yeah, his skillset is mean this week
All three of his team have On A Roll to increase the chance of the acc down effect happening
I can still do a "perfect formula" run against him, but is harder
Yup yup kris he is also awesome 😊 but i dont have it 🤗 but still all hard mission goes to serena my girl
Maybe you should see how hard the Tyrantrum's Head Smash hits, before you thank anyone for it

Shouldn't be that hard to get her, she's a ticket scout pool unit
Only thing is luck matters 
Plus she needs 3/5 to be any useful
I'd the page just not displaying properly on mobile or is Kalos not listed on the PoMA tools CS info
Huh? Because I thought I beat these battles before. I guess you're right.
it's listed. is your pomatools updated to the latest version?
a pop up should appear notifying you to update
I went to the website listed in pins
ok it just didn't load correctly the first time
Guess what i beat drasna using emma lmao
Emma iris ss venus

My psychic team is so weak that i have easier time going off element
Now comes the last boss diantha
Is this team good enough?
I will raise snivy if this is ok setup
i do not have courtney so i can't say anything about her lol, i'm pretty sure rosa doesn't synergize with hapu tho
Rosa should be ex...
tbf a new player takes about 1-2 weeks to finish her bingo
or something along those lines
struggling a lot with this challenge, any suggestions?
whered your accuracy buffer
@neon kiln you could try this team (or replace winona with may) with permanent field effects so you don't have to manage rain. if you already used gio, just bring someone who can buff crit and let cyrus spam hydro pump
how does lillie sound?
Ahh haha, i guess i will just try it out
fine
My acc only one week old
I might have use gio
I see, i can try this also i guess
sync move keeps taking me out ngl
You mean like this
Yeah, but again, May might be better than Winona for this
Because of damage
Syncing with May instead of Cyrus will probably also be better
Sabrina might also work as a crit buffer, but she can't max it
At least gridless
Parameters for this battle:
Phys dam red.
Spec. Dam red.
No status
Sync buff 5
No stat reduc
Ally healing down
Power on hit 1
Grad healing
Strength 2
Power on hit 2
Move gauge -2
Strength 6
Do these need to be changed?
Korinna is pretty underrated
That was her first sync? Geez
That was close combat after support ex sync
WHAT
You got a different sun setter? SS Erika would prefer help with it.
Yes it was +2 pmun and seun
And power reserves 5
Also its not because shes underrated but because PR5 is hard to use and its her only multiplier
max defence debuffs?
Bae performs better most of the time
-5
don't forget there is also a Pride master passive in play there
Korinna works great because she has great stats and bp
So the multipliers can be patched with op supports
Stoneception
With holiday jasmine isn't that hard to set PR5
This stage isn't the bestest cuz AOE spam
Otherwise i could have picked half hp
I mean... its the job of op support to enable strikers... otherwise why would it be called op
I’m struggling a lot with this battle, any suggestions? 😭
Do you have Serena?
which pokémon does she have please
Delphox
yes i do
You can use her to put the opponent team to sleep
If they are asleep they can't muddy water
mmm true
should i still keep falkner?
Is Sycamore&Xerneas available?
he was outhealing anyways 
Was this Hard or Master mode?
hard TwT
Sycamore would've been great for this fight since he can grid for Impervious (immunity to the acc debuff) and strike weakpoints with Horn Leech
Alright, let's see
Gardenia's looking good...
If she gets an acc debuff, she can use Trust In Nature to invert it to an acc buff
And then they need to land two more debuffs to bring her back to the negatives
She can also grid for Sunny Disposition, to gain immunity to stat debuffs during sun.
You should also have Silver&Ho-oh, who can provide sun via his sync move and hit the weakpoints with Solarbeam. He doesn't have a good answer for the Acc debuffs, though, and he's weak to water. So this has some risk
I guess we need to look at what Supports are available next
You picked a heck of a time to try getting into the Champion Stadium. The Kalos League is hard! Next week it'll be the Unova League, which is much easier
hop, sycamore, kris, mc, and skyla are out
Alright, let's see
Ooh, 3/5 Leaf.
5/5 Cheryl looks good too...
EX SSKris? Then there may be an even riskier avenue available to you
Rain team. Against the water guy.
Lemme think through a few things before we commit to that, though
kris is out 😭
Do you happen to have Dauntless as Brendan's lucky skill?
brendan
idk all these names man ngl 💀
if you could refer to the pokémon
that would be lovely
He is literally in your party right now
sceptile
Excellent. I think we can do this without sun.
I'm thinking Brendan&Sceptile, Leaf&Eevee, Selene&Rowlett (but you can evolve the Rowlett)
Leaf gets the first sync, and maybe every sync, to keep your team's acc in the positives
Brendan and Selene can raise their own crit. Brendan can reach +3; Selene can only reach +2 but her grass moves have an innate +1crit anyway
Yeah, throw some books at Selene (and maybe evo stones) and give it a try? We can troubleshoot some more if it fails
(Make sure to use Spirit Shackle of course, so her Leaf Blade gets the "attacking a restrained target" bonus from her passive skill)

like this then?
do i need to do anything on her grid
Let me check
Nothing all that exciting on Selene's grid. Let me check Leaf's
Leaf/Eevee has a lot of cool stuff on it
You could go for Tackle Staggering, and Recuperation, or you could go in the opposite direction for potion upgrades
I'll leave it up to you. If you're not confident, I think I'd recommend the potion stuff
As for Brendan... you can reach one of his +5 Leaf Storm Acc tiles in the upper right, I think. This can make +0acc less depressing.
90% hitrate to 95%. In other words, it misses half as often
already have most of that done, thank you
is it worth candying brendan rn though
he’s 2/5
No
Never worth for general pool units
mkay
Candies should be used only on limited units
Brendan can always pop up in any banner
But you can't really randomly get a limited unit
(i mean you can if you summon for something like the lodge banner)
Tried the same Korinna's setup with Bruno, not as effective
haha alr alr
did it 💀
which one would be best?
Depends on your team, I suppose
Enemy has frequent Speed and SpAtk debuffs
If you have Courtney and/or Cynthia, then permanent fields can be useful so Ground Zone and/or Sandstorm don't need to be recast
I guess we can start by asking what your sync pairs who know ground-type moves roster is. (This is not necessarily your ground-type roster, as it includes ones like Leon/Charizard)
The 1st parameter is great if you use stuffs like zones, weather, screens, mga
Second one is useful if you are using a special damage dealer
The boss's frequent teamwide SpAtk debuffs might otherwise throw a wrench in a special attacker plan, though, so watch out
Maybe you can do something with a rain team. I realize you've already used up SSKris, but maybe you have enough left over...?
hmm
i did get cynthia recently…
You can filter your roster by Known Moves: Type: Ground
At 1/5 she's pretty bad
why isn’t it letting me leave this damn select screen
TwT
She's not great, but being on-type gives her an advantage if your roster is limited
can i change my selection later or is it a set in stone thing
Set in stone unfortunately
go in and then back
time to restart ig
Huh?
you are misunderstanding their question
like reopen the app
Select and then go back
Even if you start the battle isn't set in stone
Oh, the battle
no need to kill the app, just go into team selection and then back out
ah yeah alr
...Wait what was the question
the popup to select an extra param from previous rounds
doesn't let you back out until you go in to make a team
I think he was asking if the parameter could have been changed after selection
Oh, that
Yeah, you can even go in, get your butt kicked, and then come back later-- and still be allowed to pick a different round parameter
Ground i think is the most premium type
Premium options are pretty busted
But f2p ones are kinda bad
Cynthia (with many dupes) and Maxie, huh
Gioking
I'm still waiting for Gioking to rerun on a banner where I don't already have everyone else on it...
Gioking is pretty busted for on type (but is great even offtype)
okay here’s everyone that knows a ground type move
I killed diantha turn 2
Ooh
may maybe?
You could do something very silly with this
MAYbe?
May and Courtney with a support
Courtney is pretty good
bad joke
Blayne but that’s it I think
so i’ve been told
But first, is May still available or did you use her with SSKris
Oh cool, then maybe we can find a way to do this
okayyyy
May's even 3/5? This is looking good
Courtney is 2/5 so she can max crit on her own; May has Dire Rain so she can get to effectively 3 crit on her Earth Power with just her two TMs...

So we need SpAtk and a lot of Speed
Dire Rain is a thing on May's grid.
yeah
It makes her regular moves, such as Earth Power, act like she has +1 more crit than she actually has
mhm
ohhhh wait nvm i get it
yeah haha
Thanks, I can see that one
Alright, let me scroll back up and go get that image of all your Supports again
SpAtk and Speed... Roxanne would be good but she's kinda fragile.
Persian still 1/5?
Persian has... not Speed but gauge accel, which might still be helpful
…is he good?
i haven’t really paid attention to him
I want actual Speed though, to counteract the debuffs that the boss has
Isn't busted, but a solid support, and his dupes are free if you play the event
didn’t i get them before
hold on
Falkner can give the team Speed if he Fly-dodges something. That's a little tricky to do, though, and it slows your sync cycles down (takes 2 turns but only advances your sync countdown by 1)
Even base 5* is free for him
The only non free thing is the 6ex
Since this is "just" Hard mode, maybe you can bring Falkner in and just... Fly when it's about to be Diantha's turn
And hopefully she's going to do an attack for him to dodge
alright
That way her debuffs won't land in the first place and Falkner gives Speed to the team
I don't recommend trying this on Master Mode but it can be a thing for Hard
so may, camerupt lady, and falkner?
Yeah, I think I'd try that
alright i’ll let you know how it goes ^-^
Good luck!
thank you!
I think I'd try it something like this...
Turn 1: Ground Wish, Rain Dance, Soar
Enemy: Diantha hopefully uses X Speed All, or at least doesn't use Head Smash
Turn 2: Delete, Ready For This, Dire Hit Plus All
Enemy: Right sidekick does something
Turn 3: Bulldoze, Earth Power, Fly
Enemy: Diantha hopefully takes a swing at Falkner and misses
May can sync to mega evolve, or Courtney can sync to deal damage
Turn 4: Bulldoze or Delete, Earth Power, Falkner lands from Fly
Enemy: left sidekick does something
Turn 5: Bulldoze, Earth Power, Fly
Enemy: Diantha does something. Hopefully it's an attack.
Turn 6: Bulldoze, Earth Power, Falkner lands from Fly
Enemy: Diantha uses X Defense All
Turn 7: Bulldoze, Earth Power, hope Diantha is out of the fight
shit i died
okay this was a really good guide ty
but the fly risky
it works though
fly just needs timing
Yeah, it's why I wouldn't wanna use it in Master Mode
Probably try Aaron, Blaine and SS Erika and see how it goes
i hate this 😭
Damn, so close
Or maybe some regridding...
yeahhh for sure
hmm
honestly
i missed the last fly 😭
i think that was def why i lost
It's okay, Falkner's damage isn't important. We just want to prevent Diantha from landing hits for as long as possible
The first one is basically unavoidable or else we sacrifice our first sync's timing, but if you look at that plan again... Falkner is always airborne for each turn that Diantha attacks until her first sync
(Can't dodge a sync)
Good luck. Kalos League is hard!

Earth Power May? interesting, glad you made it lol

so wait am i supposed to use all 18 types to get that badge thing 😟
yes, but it can't be done in one week anyway
Yeah, and it can't be done in one week (15 party slots, 18 types)
Finish the medal to unlock Master Mode for that region's league (including if it reruns in later months)
ooooh i see
next week is Unova, so you can work on that one just fine, Kalos will have to wait until it comes back
one week for each region right?
your progress carries over
2 weeks minimum, 15 types max on one week, 3 on the other
but you can distribute types a bit more evenly so teams aren't as restrictive
just come here next week and we can help out
Also might want to check ng-pomatools.web.app for the Champion Stadium opponent kits
Wait which stages have you already beat?
Fire girl and siebold
save wikstrom for r4
Psychic Weak Drasna should probably be something with Giovanni
hes super annoying to deal with without it
Sorry I’m not following
Round 4 has a parameter that gives the Light Screen effect iirc
do wikstrom last for e4 members since r4 parameter is halved special damage for both sides
which benefits you
I see
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Olivia + Bertha + Hop (grid Olivia for Sand Blaster, Inertia, and Stone Edge Amped Up, Hop needs his MP Refreshes)
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Cyrus + Roxanne + Winona (grid Cyrus for Critical Focus + Hydro Pump Ramming Speed, Roxanne needs her MP Refreshes)
Should be able to off-type the remaining 2 Elite 4
Thank you for clarifying
(And it’s bypassed by crits)
Also light screen only reduces by 30% iirc
Then you can do something like Courtney + Shauna + Skyla for Diantha
Why use olivia when they can use giovanni?
They definitely can use him for Drasna instead of one of the off-type comps, yeah
In which case it’d be Giovanni + Rosa + Marley, most likely
Is there no way to search?
I’ve forgotten some characters faces
Don’t know who Olivia is
Unless I’m just blanking
Lycanroc-Midnight, 5-star Rock Strike pair
You have her 3/5
She’s bonkers at 3/5
I’m just stealing this info from droid
#916852044692856834 message
Oh really? I was lowkey getting annoyed of pulling her 😂
She’s the best non-limited Rock damage-dealer in the game
Regardless, if its on type giovanni should probably be better
3: Emmet, C Blue, SC Hilda
There’s also the tech SS Diantha
Still waiting for mama olivia to come to me
basically every limited rock damage dealer is better than her
ss diantha is also a damage dealer
Olivia can easily handle all Rock weak content except maybe Rock weak Malva on Master Mode
~~She’s a hybrid
~~
Blue with Aerodactyl?
Yes
I see
Also Cobalt I don’t think I have enough of the Sync grid things to get the stuff on the board
That’s alright, a minimal grid should be fine for most (and no grid would also be fine for some)
Minimal stuff needed:
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Olivia: Sand Blaster, Inertia, Stone Edge Amped Up
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Hop: Hop to It! MP Refresh, ideally-but-not-required Potion MP Refresh
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Cyrus: Critical Focus, ideally-but-not-required Hydro Pump Ramming Speed
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Roxanne: Study Buddies! MP Refresh
Focus on Cyrus and Roxanne 1st
Alright
If you can’t finish with Olivia’s team that’s fine, you’ll be able to use Giovanni + Rosa + Marley with no grid tiles for Drasna on Hard Mode
Just make sure to 5/5 20/20 Giovanni
Alright Thanks again as always
Sorry to come back
But would you recommend a minimum level?
120
120 is cheap, and it is both the minimum and what is generally sufficient for basically all content
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
Is this right?
No, you only grabbed one of the 3 tiles I said Olivia would need
Right missing Sand Blaster
And Stone Edge Amped Up
Got this off the Bot Zone thing
You only grabbed Inertia
I got everything you said is this good?
Yeah, but if you haven't gotten Cyrus and Roxanne's important tiles I recommend doing them 1st since they should be slightly cheaper overall
Alr
Oh i didnt have lucky skill cs2 on cmarnie and man she hits hard.
With my current roster maybe l set for 9k cs at least.
Is it called barricade buddies for Roxanne?
MP Refresh is what she needs
There’s an MP Refresh for each of her moves right?
There is, but the one for her Trainer Move (it's called "Study Buddies!") is the important one for this case
Is it called Barricade buddies on the tool?
Am I blind I don’t see study buddies
It's listed as just "Trainer Move" on pomatools
You have the MP Refresh on that listed one
You can tap a tile to read its in-game name and what it does
Should I stop at Study buddies
Or do I get anything else
Cuz I could just move on to Cyrus
Get the MP Refresh for now, since you're short on resources only get stuff you absolutely need for now
If it turns out you need more tiles then you can grab them
Sounds good
Is there only one cristastrophe before grid expansion?
Yes, but that’s not the vital tile anyways
Despite the cataclysmic name, Cristastrophe tends to be one of the less-interesting skills you can get
So all I need is hydro pump ramming speed and critastrophe?
You don't need critastrophe
That’s unfortunate
I believe it's just... Critical Strike but specific to sync moves
Whereas actual Critical Strike already affects sync moves
Not Critastrophe, Critical Focus
And this is Cyrus? So he already has Critical Strike 9
They are 2 very different tiles
Oh, yeah, Crit Focus is on the opposite end of the grid
It gives him a Dire Hit Plus effect whenever he successfully lands a crit.
And oh look, Spatial Rend has a base 50% crit rate!
Shit I did critastrophe
I’ll reset board
Just undo it, it's free
You can click a node to unlearn it and get the orb back
(Rather, the orbs will still be attached to Cyrus/Palkia so you can't give them to someone else. You can just spend it elsewhere on their grid)
This is what it looks like now
If you have an acc buff source on the team, that is fine
If you don't, I'd prefer going for Hydro Pump +Acc instead of for Ramming Speed (unless you can afford the orbs for both at once)
Hydro Pump's base hitrate is kind of uncomfortable
Alright, so when using that team Roxanne needs to use “Study Buddies!” 3 times. That means you need an MP Refresh. Cyrus needs to land a crit with Spacial Rend on his 1st or 2nd turn, then he can switch to Hydro Pump. Winona sets Rain so Cyrus does big damage, set it on your 2nd set of 3 actions since Cyrus is spending at least 1 turn not using Hydro Pump
Does Winona need anything on the grid?
She’s untouched
She doesn’t need grid, no
If the fight somehow goes on long enough that you run out of rain, you could give her the Shower Sync grid node. This allows you to use her sync as a Rain Dance, once per battle
Hopefully someone other than Siebold (he also uses water so the rain makes his team stronger too)
It might still win against Siebold but oof
Honestly (excuse my language) I’m pretty shit at this game so I’ll prolly need it
Ya I already beat siebold and fire girl
If this team fails against... whomever it ends up fighting... my other first instinct would be to move Cyrus' Ramming Speed grid node into Hydro Pump Acc
Don’t have enough unfortunately
Yeah, then I'd take the nodes out of Ramming Speed for it
There are two acc nodes, a 5 and a 10
This brings Hydro Pump's hitrate from 80% to 95%
And that's much more tolerable
...It's even a larger average damage increase than Ramming Speed, for Cyrus
Ramming Speed brings his damage from 190% to 220%. The difference is 1.1579x
Hydro Pump's acc increasing from 80% to 95% is a 1.1875x difference, which is larger
So how do I start off?
Special rend
Spacial rend until you crit, then switch to hydro pump
Yes, she's the support to buff cyrus's offenses
she buffs special atk without the recoil
And Speed 
So spam study budddies
Yes, at least 3 times
Then just spam her gaugeless move
TM if you still get refreshes and x defense all
Only switch to ancient power once you run out of uses
Who should be getting hit first
Need some help!
Winona or Roxanne
I prefer using double Grass dmg dealers when I use SS Erika
Do you have 2/5 Brendan or gridded Gardenia?
I have both but never used gardenia before
The first video shows parameters I’m using
I'd get remove Half MP and Strength 1, and replace them with Power Up On Hit 2
But I think something else might be off here
This team simply doesn't seem to have enough power to presync win
Erika wants to pair with another dmg dealer
There's only so much she can do on her own, especially if she has to resummon the sun
An EX Support might also help, but I don't know how many others you might have
Who should tank?
Roxanne ofc
Cyrus
Roxanne died realll fast
What params are you using
I don’t think I’ve unlocked that yet
Oh, this is Hard and not Master?
Alright, which fight was this again?
So unova cs is much easier than kalos cs?
It is
Which region is the hardest cs?
Kalos is, like, second-hardest of the seven leagues
Sinnoh is hardest
Hoenn is just below Kalos
Oof ok
The other four are easy to medium
If I had to rank them according to difficulty, it'd probably be something like
Hardest
Sinnoh
Kalos
Hoenn
Alola
Unova
Johto
Kanto
Easiest
I can do siebold 1.5k with kiawe, silver and ss erika. Rng save my silver at last minute
Galar doesn't have an Elite Four and we have no Paldea content, so these are the only seven leagues for the foreseeable future
Drasna
Oh. You don't have Giovanni?
Should i try for 2k siebold? Same team
I do
Why're we fooling around with Cyrus when there's a really strong and completely free sync pair that snipes her weakpoint
Gio and MewTwo?
I'd say Hoenn and Sinnoh are the 2 hardest for me
Gio and MewTwo?
Yeah
Kalos 3rd
Can you show your roster of Psychic pairs?
^
Incredibly limited
Thanks, let's see
Next we gotta ask what supports are still available
Could use Roxanne as a "glass support" hiding behind a big beefy tank
Clearly doing something wrong changes the parameters. I know it’s me and not using the right inputs.
Brendan's SpAtk decreased by 2
You don't have Dauntless on him...
Brendan is practically thirsty for Dauntless
He needs it from a Lucky Skill so he can merrily spam Leaf Storm without consequences
So add dauntless. Grid Brendan for leaf storm and sun?
Yes.
And there's one other thing, this time in your... technique
You didn't attempt the Quadqueue method
Sycamore is used
With damage dealer then
Okay. Who's left?
what supports are left ?
Anyway... You've probably noticed by now that each time you use a Sync move, the whole team gains a layer of the Sync Buff, yes?
The Sync Buff increases your team's damage output by +50% each time. The faster you get more layers of this buff, the better you can smite the enemy.
If you do your actions just right, you can get two syncs in before the enemy does one
And so your damage will snowball much faster than theirs
Here are the supports I have left.
Wait, let's check which team needs which
AceTreyner was... facing Siebold, and Takt was facing Drasna?
Yeah
AceTreyner: Lyra is an amazing support in a sun team like yours
Lyra and Meganium
Alright, so Takt versus Drasna, with Giovanni...
She does have LS ye
And if she's 3/5, her Light Screen has a 50% chance to raise your team's Sp. Def.
Maybe I'd suggest Giovanni/Mewtwo with Roxanne/Probopass as a glass support and Dawn/Turtwig(Torterra) as a tank
Leaf/Eevee can work as a tank too
So Lyra, Brendan, SS Erika?
Yeah
Yeah.
Recommended grid for Lyra?
Lyra's bulky on the special defense and glassy on the phys defense
But Siebold's entire offense is special attacks, so Lyra is an iron wall
I think I'd go with Solarize, and give her the first sync, so that SSErika can skip a Sunny Day
Lyra's a great choice for EXing due to strategies like that, but we'll worry about that later
Is their SS Erika 3/5?
2/5
2
Looks like 2/5 only
Ah, so no SEUN
Yeah, may as well just Solar Blade
Does Gio need anything on his board?
He can do some good stuff with Psychic On A Roll and Brainteaser and Smarty-Pants, if he has the right help... but I don't think any such help exists in your roster right now
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I have a moderately cursed Plan B for the Drasna team
Giovanni/Mewtwo, Will/Xatu, and Falkner/Swellow. It was just earlier today that I mentioned I'd rather not have to do something like this for Master Mode, but here we are...
If you have the resources , you can try double on a roll 2 smarty pants grid
I mean I have absolutely no sync orbs
Then skip it
I still think Kalos is easier than Hoenn and Sinnoh for some reasons
I mean, yeah, the Overpowered Pikachus are here
Yea just skip the sync grid then
Can’t even get him to level 100 😭
But cs2 as lucky skill if you can
But Sinnoh has by far the most Sentryx2 and Wisex2 fights. And even has a Sentry/Wise x3 fight, I believe
Sinnoh and Hoenn appeared after them
...They did?
Yeah, Sinnoh back in November and Hoenn back in December
I’m pretty sure hoenn and sinnoh have reran during rats existentce
yes
Should I just skip this CS
Yeah, first appearance back in April, but it reappeared on November
And wait for it to come back around
How about rock-weak Malva?
If you just lack the resources its fine to skip, when I first started the game I had to skip a lot of johto CS too
I think let's count how many Sentryx2 and Wisex2 fights there are in each region, since that's my metric
Starting Sinnoh and after new ones after it
Or do you mean the fights?

Yeah how many fights, since there are 17 possible fights
And they always represent all 17 in each month
Sinnoh was the only one I have some mixed post syncs
but yea Wise and Sentryx2 were pain for sure
Also, steel-weak Glacia has pretty low HP
Between Sinnoh and Hoenn idk which gave me the most trouble overall, I just know they gave a lot 
So Hoenn has... four. Dark Phoebe (Sentry), Steel Glacia (Sentry), Ice Drake (Wise), Grass Wallace (Wise)
Ya I think I’ll stand out for this CSI don’t have the orbs for their board or the books to level the characters up
Counting Sinnoh now
I don't have Pal Marnie, but I still destroyed Glacia with Gioking
Steel glacia really means a terrible time hahahaa
I cba with that so I just used pikachus
If steel and electric was in the same week i had to split
Sinnoh has seven. Electric Aaron (Sentry), Steel Bertha (Wisex3 on sidekicks), Rock Flint (Wise (lol)), Bug Lucian (Wise), Ghost Lucian (Wise), Dark Lucian (Wise), Fairy Cynthia (Wise)
So less than Hoenn?
how about Kalos
Hoenn had four and Sinnoh had seven. What the fuck are you talking about
I'll count Kalos next. I think it might actually have fewer than Hoenn after all
I also feel Kalos are more favorable when it comes to Sentry/Wise
like easier to get units

Rock Malva has entered the chat
was she Wise entry?
Kalos has... only two. Rock Malva (Sentry), Bug Siebold (Sentry)
I suppose they leaned more on other skills to make this one hard
Sentry on Rock is a problem because only two sync pairs have special rock moves. And one of them is Roxanne.
It's a similar situation to Steel Glacia
Water-weak Malva with preemptive sun with Charging Sun 5, meaning 100% damage boost on moves
that stage prob favor +def from SS Diantha
The other special rock user is Blue/Aerodactyl, who flatout wasn't even available this month
125%, since sun is multiplicative
Ah
It's even worse 

Hmm Sinnoh would be harder compared to Hoenn for me... mostly because of Lucian
And Wikstrom with preemptive steel zone and 30% damage boost under it
So yeah, Sinnoh really leaned into Sentry/Wise, Hoenn did some of that and some of other mean tricks, and Kalos did very little Sentry/Wise nonsense but a lot of other mean tricks
Hoenn was more of Aoe was it
And if you overwrite it, his Quick Tempo ruins your quadqueue anyway
LETS GO!! Thanks for the help!!
I still feel like Kalos was harder than Hoenn overall, I suppose I just can't say it was from Sentry/Wise
Good luck!
probably more bonus DMG
...Wait, didn't we have to suggest a team for Takt
Fuck we got sidetracked
Okay, so, uh, Drasna right?
And they had Giovanni and possibly Will
I beat him!
Oh sweet!

umm...
(I love nitro)
I meant skip the grid
OH
He took it seriously
Ah well
On the off chance they come back, we could try suggesting something like Giovanni, Will, and Falkner and come up with a turn order to have Falkner airborne each turn Drasna might swing at him
But that's a little cursed
I think it's the most likely plan to win, though
Since their Sycamore's used up
falkner is a bit squishy
And he ruins quadqueueing too
he doesnt have roxxanne?
He does but Roxanne is even squishier
They reported that Roxanne died a lot, and this was only on Hard mode
Also, no orbs
So no Endure
Her low HP is what downsides her
Ye, exactly
I’ve already got an off type team who can beat Diantha but I’ve been super eager to try Garchomp. Who is best to pair him with? And he is only 1/5 is it even worth attempting?
And judging by the wall of untrained Lv1 supports, they're very new so they don't have rock gear to offset it
Recommed sycamore for that one with his sync move and master healer.
They already won
They're asking about a different fight now
Oh ok
Fortunately, Acerola's 1/5 grid has both Sandstorm MPR and Astonish Aggravation
Acerola is one of the best pairs for Cynthia
What other ground types are available?
Gotta see the other options before we start really planning
I mean, there's the infinite fields effect?
Thaaaat is a good point
Hapu?
I mean, maybe Courtney after all? Maybe Bertha?
So yeah, gotta find out what we can work with here
meanwhile Clay...
I do have acerola as well
Damn, I didn't expect the answer to be All Of The Above Plus Naomi
Depends on if the Support has Impervious
The boss has Satisfied Snarl and Ripple Effect
That could ruin Naomi
I think we've used Sycamore up... Hm.
Let me scroll back up and get those screencaps of their supports
Ooh, Leaf/Eevee is here too
The team does want some Speed, and Leaf can provide it
Wait, she does?
umm
Hilbert Naomi Courtney, or Leaf Naomi Bertha...
marley*
We could also do something really silly
Naomi has self speed.
So does Cynthia.
Cynthia Naomi Bertha.

Bertha tank
Supportless team
But Cynthia and Naomi are self-sufficient, so yeah
And with two self-speed units, gauge might not be a problem
The goal was to see if there is a team I could use Garchomp on. If it’s lacking because Cynthia is 1/5. I’m just gonna use my SSA Cynthia, ash and luxray.

Now is the perfect time
I mean
Like, you can do Cynthia/Naomi/Bertha first for funsies
bertha cynthia naomi
I swear ash pika and red pika are broken! I nickname them Thor and Odin lol
But yeah, you have a magnificent backup plan
Oof
Backup team it is lol
Just... smite them with Thor's wrath
Too bad yesterday would have been the best day to do it
Thursday is named after Thor.
Thanks everyone for the help!
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