#Champion Stadium

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proud axle
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He doesn't have Sentry x2 or Wise x2 either, and we have plentiful powerful freebie Grass attackers

formal vigil
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your right about steven can be taken out easily before he even sets his terrian though flying weak sidney bug weak sidney also dark pheobe were bulky as hell especially when hoeen first came out when i was alot easier to the game so struggled t take them out presync though the defog idea never came to my mind so i will admit that but damm..

proud axle
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Flying weak Sidney doesn't have zone and in fact has much less HP than Grass Steven

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With his X Evasion All, I think you're meant to use Blue&Pidgeot against Flying Sidney, and we get him for free these days

formal vigil
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oh wait he didn't though guess i just remember struggling alot against him since my blue kept barely killing before he syced and he couldn't survive no matter i tried

proud axle
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Yeah, CS is really rough for earlygame players

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I got an acquaintance into this game very recently and recommended not worrying about CS too much until next week (Unova)

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Because, yeah, Kalos is insane

formal vigil
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yeah kalos is rough... Also i do agree on your comment on sinnoh being really hard due to its entries since alot of them made the stages alot more annoying to deal with especially electric weak aaron

proud axle
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Yeah! For most CSMMs, you could throw Cyrus in with a rain team and crush it, but Wise x2 says No to that

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Sycamore Horn Leech shenanigans are also way less effective against Sentry x2

formal vigil
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yeah true also I remember using those strategies alot too heck i still use cyrus rain team to destroy annoying sentry entry x2 stages like rock week malva

nocturne pawn
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ironically enough as much as i shat on malva for looking annoying she was the one i consistently had the least trouble with

onyx ice
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Blue and Pidgeot need the accuracy buffs to actually fix his own hurricane

proud axle
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Bruh, Blue and Pidgeot need +6acc to deal actual damage anyway

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That is more than enough to overcome Hurricane's hitrate and the 2 evasion Sidney's team gets

onyx ice
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Yes +6 will be enough

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However not a big fan of units like Pidgeot or Karen

proud axle
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If most people had Leon, we probably wouldn't have this many people asking how to beat his EBE without him

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But everyone has Blue

stray sentinel
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Pidgeot can use rain to his at least

nocturne pawn
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you dont even need rain for hurricane he gets +4 acc because of pinpoint entry and tm

onyx ice
nocturne pawn
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and you can use someone like bp clemont/lillie to max out acc

proud axle
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...I also think you're misunderstanding what I'm talking about

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"Hoenn is less hell on new players than Kalos or Sinnoh"

onyx ice
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Yes Kalos and Sinnoh are the hardest

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Hoenn is medium

proud axle
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Hoenn's still hard-ish but below those two

nocturne pawn
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steel weak glacia is pretty unfair

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but idt theres anything else like that

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meanwhile sinnoh cs goes really wild with entry x2 passives

proud axle
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Thank gods we're getting Striker Perrserkers to fight her with nowadays

onyx ice
nocturne pawn
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by that logic siebold is that

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but also worse

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because accuracy drops go brrr

proud axle
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I breezed through Steel Glacia because I have Raihan. Now, more players can take her down with Perrserker Steel Beam

onyx ice
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I guess good old Serena could work

nocturne pawn
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💀

proud axle
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Yeah, it's a Rock Malva moment

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Or perhaps Rock Malva is a Steel Glacia moment

nocturne pawn
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rock malva is that but worse

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because they still dont have an accessible option

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and shes also more difficult mechanically too

proud axle
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Indeed, Kalos is madness

nocturne pawn
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charging sun 5 + flare blitz hurts really hard

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although

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roark and olivia both managed to brute force it

onyx ice
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The only 2 good on type options for malva are classic blue and SS Diantha

proud axle
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...SSDiantha is phys I thought?

onyx ice
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Yes it is

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But she makes roark op

proud axle
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Ohhh, Rock zone rather than her own personal DPS

onyx ice
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Her personal DPS is good too

proud axle
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Our man Roark really went from zero-to-hero. Almost makes me wanna feel proud of this collection of numbers and pixels

nocturne pawn
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rock zone basically nullified the effects of sentry entry x2

onyx ice
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And she debuffs defense

onyx ice
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Maybe he could work with 6ex Hilbert and kukui

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He has a nice nuke too

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Generally i find funnier utility units like SC Jasmine and SS Diantha, than super strong damage dealers like Ash

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I always like to make "bad" units shine "when possible"

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Doubt i can make stuffs like Lorelei or Norman shine in master mode

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The unit should have some sort of potential

marsh crater
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Doing this praying that they never used muddy water

undone brook
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i also did it on r1 with ss erika so that i wouldn't have to worry about managing sun

proud axle
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Maxie has +1acc on his TM, and Gardenia can either grid for Sunny Disposition for debuff immunity during sun, or let an Acc debuff land and invert it to a buff with her TM. SSLeaf, if she has enough dupes (mine doesn't), can also grid for Hem In to counteract the Acc debuffs by inflicting Eva debuffs

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Sycamore (Xerneas) can grid for Impervious and Sycamore (Bulbasaur) has it built in. There are a surprising number of ways to deal with the acc problem!

tired sleet
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I should have used bulbasaur but i used venusaur instead SycamorePanic

proud axle
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Also Ash never misses but that might be cheating

marsh crater
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Need all the resources i can get

onyx ice
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I did a silver run too

onyx ice
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They can't muddy water if they are asleep

teal siren
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This team should 2k drasna yes?

rotund lagoon
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Try it

teal siren
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I did with pre sync parameters and lost

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I thought maybe it should but maybe I’m wrong

zealous karma
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Since gio is not ex sync with Lucian

teal siren
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Why Lucian?

paper summit
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big nuke

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you can delete Drasna with Lucian's sync and attack with Giovanni to take care of sides

teal siren
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Don’t sync with sycamore?

paper summit
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yes, 1st is Sycamore, 2nd sync go with Lucian

teal siren
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Okay gotta figure out why I’m just short of getting second nuke in before opponent gets their first

paper summit
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make sure Sycamore has Adrenaline

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that should ensure you make it to 2nd sync in time

teal siren
paper summit
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you are not picking sync countdown parameters by accident, are you?

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try recording a video and posting it here if you are able, easier to notice what might be going wrong

teal siren
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Lmao I got it on the recording. Drasna had a chance to Sync before I did and her side just didn’t do anything. Not sure why tho

proud axle
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Under certain conditions, they can't queue if a mon is doing its fainting animation

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Including yours

undone brook
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does turn denial stop the opponent's sync countdown from decreasing?

nocturne pawn
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it means if they queued a move then there is more time for you to queue a move since they were interrupted

swift swan
undone brook
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notedo, was wondering because i wanted to know alternatives to quadque and adrenaline for sneaking in two syncs

swift swan
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I'm not a fan of turn denials because usually it requires nuking the left on first sync, leaving the mid nearly unscathed and I have to make sure my 2nd sync immediately kills

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I don't mind if I'm confident with my nuker, but sometimes I desperately have to nuke mid twice

undone brook
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flinching the left or right would also work, right?

swift swan
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yes but this is slightly harder

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if you flinch/sleep them when they're queueing a trainer move, they can still use it

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if you flinch/sleep them when they're queueing a pokemon move, usually they immediately switch to a trainer move without any time window to slot your own moves in

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you have to make sure they've used up the trainer moves they can use, so when you flinch their pokemon moves, they literally can't queue anything else

undone brook
drifting sleet
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Ahhhh my dilemma every time fighting weak cs comes up

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Wally or bea

old orchid
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Bea

dark osprey
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how about Bruno & Wally together

swift swan
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I run Wally and Bea together with Hilbert usually WEEZing

dark osprey
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ah yeah better. just thought Bruno has the 3 gauge thing so it may be slightly easier

drifting sleet
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Ended up doing Wally/Skyla/Ssbrendan

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Just because sp atk up round

versed meteor
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Wally survived an earthquake?

full mesa
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+6 from Skyla

versed meteor
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At +6 earthquake still knocks my Wally out

old orchid
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is zone up?

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and what params are you using?

versed meteor
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2k without ally healing so 1900

old orchid
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did you use the pre sync set pinned here?

versed meteor
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No post sync

drifting sleet
versed meteor
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Another under 8k week this kalos stuff is bullshit

old orchid
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Next week is Unova

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So relax

swift swan
stray sentinel
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Are recommended parameters always the same for cs then?

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Is there a new player version of params * lol

old orchid
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Yes

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The 850 points ones

undone brook
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^ In pins

marsh crater
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For ground weak, i need cynthia at 3/5?

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Surging sand 2 and 3 increase damage by how much?

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This week cs has been weird for me. Last week cs should be harder than this week right? I cant beat 1k drasna with my mewtwo team

marsh crater
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Not even 500 point param with my mewtwo team what going on?

old orchid
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And yeah Cynthia needs 3/5 to do meaningful damage

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Do you have Naomi?

marsh crater
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She need that ramming speed and all the surging sand right?

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Naomi? Noo

old orchid
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3/5 her is a good investment if your Ground roster is dry

marsh crater
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My ground roster

old orchid
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Yeah 3/5 Cynthia is a huge improvement

marsh crater
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I pull cynthia during her poke fair. Man she need 5 multipull

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I should choose her for free champion ticket instead of alder

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Or alder a good choice?

old orchid
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Yes if you dont have good options for bug type

marsh crater
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Need 17 more striker coin

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Well i dont have good bug. Only noland and bugsy

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Unless if i have 55 legendary like vantner than i dont have a problem i guess

old orchid
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So Alder is def a good choice

marsh crater
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Now my problem is

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Sync orb

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I want to ex melony too

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Agh so many to ex

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Why every cs week i need to build new team

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Kalos cs is a headache for me

old orchid
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Unova would be a breeze for you

proud axle
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Solving a different puzzle each fight

terse comet
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ugh I'm so close to this 2k fight yet I keep barely failing

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I'm going down to 1.4 rq, but this is the team I'm using, I'll get the options I took from the guide shortly

proud axle
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I think I'd rather pair May with a second Psychic attacker

terse comet
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1.4k run, was running strength +6 with this in the 2k, also I don't have a decent healbot outside of Cait sync heal

proud axle
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That's a lot of Max HP.

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No barriers? I think that team can max crit so it can ignore them

terse comet
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I have barriers on sync too forgot to say that and I need them up or they both die in 2 hits

proud axle
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No

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Barriers for the enemy

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100 easy points

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Crits bypass them

terse comet
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ohhh

proud axle
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That's why they're so cheap

terse comet
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I get what you mean now

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so remove max hp 2 and put barriers and see if I can win then

proud axle
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It might help

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I think a bigger help would be adjusting the team, though

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May can't do a lot by herself with this team composition

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Think about this.
Psy Terrain is 1.5x Psychic damage, right?
So Psyterrain Mistball Mistball vs Mistball Mistball Mistball
They are the same damage. 3 Mistballs vs 3 Mistballs

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Add a second Psychic attacker and then you actually profit

terse comet
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I hope this answers why there isn't a 2nd psy attacker

proud axle
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It doesn't. Giovanni is amazing.

terse comet
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Sure Gio could do damage but I'm going to die too quick then

proud axle
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You should also probably use fewer HP modifiers

terse comet
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I'm getting to sync buff 6-7 on 2k

proud axle
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Gio and May, together, should be able to kill before the enemy gets its first sync

terse comet
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whereas with 1.4k it's about sync buff 5

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Wait what

proud axle
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Stop using HP modifiers and you discover they're not actually that tough

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...Also, HP modifiers stack multiplicatively

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Strength stacks only additively

terse comet
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What would you recommend me trying then?

proud axle
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Let's see, let me bring up that chart from the pins...

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And let me bring up Pomatools to show how much HP they get from the Standard 2k versus the set you were using before

terse comet
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Truthfully I was only aiming for a 4k overall but may as well try to go higher

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as idk if I have a comp for the other teams

proud axle
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100k HP if you stack all those HP modifiers on top of 9 total Strength

terse comet
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So even a max damage hit wouldn't kill

proud axle
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Wheras the Standard Presync 2k set is only this much

terse comet
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Would you say go Holiday Jasmine AnniMay and Gio then?

proud axle
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Well, not quite Standard. I substituted No Stat Reductions for another +1 Strength

terse comet
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As Holiday Jasmine can keep them alive

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and also super effective up

proud axle
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SE Up is good, but the key is to win before you need to heal

terse comet
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I mean Comforting

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I guarantee live one hit which isn't sync

proud axle
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Gio is EX, he'll be fine

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Should have enough HP and defenses to eat an AoE and keep going

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What we need is to block or cure the Poison, huh... HilbertHmm

terse comet
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Oh I can just rng abuse

proud axle
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I think I used Marley&Arcanine to do that and also provide Speed

terse comet
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and also May can use psy terrain for her to block poison

proud axle
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The team wants Speed to sustain Giovanni (May gets freebies on two-thirds of her turns so it's not so bad for her)

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Sycamore&Xerneas might be an option if you haven't used him elsewhere

terse comet
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Oh this is round 1

proud axle
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Permanent field effects? That's great for this too

terse comet
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and like I said, idk how far I'll be able to go for the other rounds

proud axle
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May doesn't need to refresh Psy Terrain, and Sycamore's gauge accel becomes permanent...

terse comet
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Also why

proud axle
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Hm?

terse comet
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would I need Syca

proud axle
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Speed.

terse comet
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When May does move gauge accel

proud axle
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And Poison cure

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Oh, right, she does that

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I keep forgetting.

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With Mewtwo's base Speed, and May's gauge accel and freebies, maybe you could make this work without Speed HilbertHmm

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Looking for alternatives, then...

terse comet
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I'm going to try something hold up

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if this works it'll be funny

proud axle
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If it doesn't work, it might still be funny

terse comet
proud axle
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Oh shit, nice

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That idea crossed my mind but I dismissed it as too ridiculous

terse comet
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You said get speed

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I got speed

proud axle
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And it hecking worked!

terse comet
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Now past this I have no idea what my plan is as truthfully I just offtyped non mm

proud axle
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Normally I'd suggest using the round 1 modifier for Siebold, as permanent sun is going to be useful against him... but it's a bit late now

terse comet
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Oh yeah that's what I did

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Groudon Ho-Oh Ho-Oh Round 2

proud axle
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People seem to report that the Siebold fight is particularly rough-- not just from acc drops but from Muddy Water's direct damage

terse comet
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because sun spam

proud axle
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How'd it go?

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Round 2 is particularly dangerous to face Siebold because of Muddy Water spam

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Sun doesn't weaken water in this game...

terse comet
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like I said, that was non mm

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so I kinda massacred it

proud axle
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Oh, okay

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The other options are... Fighting Wikstrom and Dark Malva, huh...

terse comet
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I'll have to offtype Diantha that's fine

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because ground options aren't the best

proud axle
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Malva's offense is full special, so that's risky. Wikstrom's is mixed, so that's the least-bad opponent for Round 2

proud axle
terse comet
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I'll just see how much my special damage does and go probably post sync for this one

proud axle
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In other words you could shift Maxie to Diantha's fight

terse comet
proud axle
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Damn. Hm...

terse comet
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Should I see how it goes?

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I can just bring SSDiantha or Marnie for Diantha

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and enable zones

proud axle
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Perhaps...

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Getting 2k on round 1 means you can also go for lower-score runs on the rest of the fights

terse comet
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True as like I said, end goal was 4k so I can EX Diantha

proud axle
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That means you can lower your scores to 500 each I think. That might not be so bad

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Good luck!

terse comet
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ty, also yeah I think 500 could be pretty easy, might just strength +6 everything ngl for a couple more points

proud axle
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Add barriers and maybe No Status/Debuffs where applicable, I suppose

terse comet
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I'm happy with that

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5k mm

sick anvil
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that 5/5 morty BarryPogChamp

terse comet
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Yeah I pulled until 5/5 which wasn't too much actually

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I uhh may have messed up my maths lol

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at least I have a plan b

sick anvil
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hmm

terse comet
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So I did a 5k to get Diantha to 20/20 and then to EX

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but I'm 4 off lol

long thicket
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Haven't attempted Wikstrom again, I'll try to go for Hop and do attempts with him because I don't feel like the permanent pool Fighting units are very good for that level of difficulty.

mellow linden
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Bea shreds Fighting weak stages though

paper summit
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Wally clears as well just fine

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Wikstrom is tricky, but not that hard

mellow linden
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Fighting weak Wikstrom’s main thing is his front-loaded damage if you lack a way to clear his Steel Zone

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If you get through that he doesn’t have much else up his sleeve

proud axle
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I used Wally and Korrina against Wikstrom, but they did have Aura Cynthia backing them.

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If not for the rampant Earthquakes, Solgaleo (weak to Ground) might've been a good choice too; I fought Wikstrom on round 2. Special Attack amp.

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Focus Blast, you see

long thicket
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I can't really figure out how she plays with a solo 4 gauge move (so the whole gauge because restrictions), and she's not EX for me yet.
My Wally is EX, but even then.

proud axle
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It's not easy. Sometimes that combo runs out of gauges for me unless Aura Cynthia's accel field is deployed a turn in advance

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And she can't do that until at least turn 3

void wyvern
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a speed support with Aura Cynthia and wally to cover ramming and help with gauge. Nita is often my go to but if you don’t have Nita even someone as simple as Marley will work if you’re on a mega budget. Other f2P options include Bp Janine, Skyla, Roxanne,

zealous karma
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Does drasna have some means of increased visible crit chance because I’ve done like 10 different attempts now and she’s crit at least twice in each one

paper summit
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yes

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Poison Tail has that innate +1 crit effect

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"Critical Hits land more easily"

zealous karma
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Never noticed pain

paper summit
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well, Poison Tail's BP is 38, it's not that bad

proud axle
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Don't use a non-Vigilance tank, then

zealous karma
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Well it’s not hits poison jab

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But for 3K it chunks jasmine by 100 hp at half Hp param pain

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And then the next one is boosted by POH Toxin power so it goes to 1000

teal siren
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Does round 3’s effect on moves extend to aggravation?

paper summit
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yes

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what it doesn't affect is passives adding those effects to moves that do not have them innately

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like Staggering

teal siren
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Ohh so on this round Brendan’s bullet seed stagger is not more likely to take effect

paper summit
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correct, not that you'd use that move in the first place, but yes, that's the idea

teal siren
teal siren
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Who should I replace torterra with on this team?

manic kiln
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Who do you have

sand karma
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Speed/Sun

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And crit support

teal siren
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Well with accuracy drops is sceptile even good to use here?

sand karma
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Do you have aaron, SSErika?

teal siren
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But yeah I believe I have them both aaron 4/5 Erika 2/5

sand karma
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That's great

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Is Lyra available?

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Hilbert will do if she isnt or any speed buffer tbh

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Grid aaron for precision pals and tm MPR

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Erika Sun Erika DPS Erika Sync go brr

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Which round is this?

teal siren
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Round 4

sand karma
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Yeah grid aaron, and use all SSErikas blade and syncnder sun and bring along any speed buffer

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Should be nice

toxic cobalt
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You never need to EX anyone but Aaron is a decent EX option

sand karma
woeful wave
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Would like to ask if my setup is ok

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Well, I just got some of them. So didn't lvl up just yet

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this my roster

proud axle
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Giovanni has no way to get SpAtk in that team

woeful wave
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ok, that team is the one may have been a wonder on how to build

proud axle
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Pick a Support for Gio's needs. Are you familiar with teambuilding concepts or should we go through a practice exercise?

woeful wave
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the choose your dps, then 1 support then the one that buff the dps?

proud axle
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Right. So can you tell me what it is that Gio wants from his support?

woeful wave
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Sp. atk, and crit?

proud axle
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And gauge support (teamwide Speed)

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How many of these things can Gio give himself?

woeful wave
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eva 2, crit 3

proud axle
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So he needs SpAtk and teamwide Speed.
Since Supports are usually the ones who can buff others, you can filter your roster by Role: Support and then to Known moves: increase ally stat: SpAtk

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And then look for ones that also give Speed

woeful wave
proud axle
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(If you click both SpAtk and Speed at the same time, it shows you all the pairs that buff either of them, which is less useful)

woeful wave
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eilo

proud axle
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Elio might work!

woeful wave
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do I keep bianca?

proud axle
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Yes. She has Psy Terrain to make Giovanni stronger

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And she can even tank a little because her self-buff raises her defenses

sinful garden
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sabrina is also an option she maxes sp atk

proud axle
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It's useful because the other frequently-picked partners for Giovanni (Sabrina or Roxanne) are pretty glassy

woeful wave
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wasnt sabrina support class

proud axle
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Moving on... Your Wikstrom team has no Support at all. The team will fail fast because all three members are fighting for gauges

proud axle
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She's on your list there

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I like multi-attacker teams, but all attackers on the team still require their buff needs met

woeful wave
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sonia work?

proud axle
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Solgaleo, in particular, has serious difficulty getting enough crit

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Sonia can work if you grid Wally and Korrina to be able to max their crit

woeful wave
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ah I switch solgaleo into Chop

proud axle
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Then it might also work that way. Korrina and Wally can gain speed on their own, though Wally needs to be hit by stray group-target attacks to get it

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...Wait

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Which Hop

woeful wave
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Fighting Hop, the new one with fighting zone

proud axle
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That is good, but you might still want someone who can tank

woeful wave
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I switch in sonia

proud axle
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That will work, I think. Sonia, Neochamp Hop, and... your choice of Wally or Korrina

woeful wave
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so thinking of wally, Chop and sonia. not sure which one will be better korrina or wallt

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wally*

proud axle
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I'd lean Wally if your Sonia is not EX

woeful wave
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wally then, she is not EX yet

proud axle
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His Focus Blast would be bad here because he can't give himself enough SpAtk for it, but Sonia can give him Atk.
So since nobody else "needs" the sync, you can give it to Wally so he can Mega and gain Close Combat to use all that Atk

woeful wave
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do I sycn once with wally, then all in Hop's?

proud axle
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Moving on to the third team.
That team has no group speed buff aside from Cheryl's grid

proud axle
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I think if you still want healing on the Dark team, you should swap Cheryl out for Skyla

woeful wave
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this one I switched Karen to CMarnie

proud axle
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Oh, then you don't even want to heal her, because she's a lot stronger when her HP is not max

woeful wave
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but skyla buff speed still ok right?

proud axle
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Skyla is still a useful choice. You could just heal Piers instead

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Yeah

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Siebold team...
Rosa's only contribution is Support EX, and I'm not sure it's actually enough to be worth the team slot

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Especially since your Lyra is 3/5 and can summon the sun with her sync

woeful wave
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ah ok, need to grid her later. hahaha. just got lyra 3/5 recently

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then just red ?

proud axle
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My choices would be either
Sycamore+Xerneas: Can grid for Impervious so he won't be harmed by Muddy Water Acc down, and he has Horn Leech to fight back. He doesn't need to sync, but the option is there if you want it (and he has EX)
Silver+Ho-oh: Solar Beam is strong and gauge-efficient
Gardenia: can grid for Sunny Disposition to become immune to stat-downs (including Muddy Water vs Acc) during sun. Or she can just use her TM to flip an Acc down into an Acc up.
Brendan: Can grid for Charging Sun 5, but might need lucky cookies to get Dauntless so his Leaf Storm doesn't eat all his SpAtk buffs

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SSErika, Lyra, and one of those.

woeful wave
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could try the Silver+Ho-oh,

proud axle
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Vs Diantha: Cynthia pretty much requires Sandstorm to accomplish anything, so you need to glue a Sandstorm source to her

proud axle
woeful wave
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O, can decide after the Diantha one, if this dont use Sycamore hahaha

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sandstorm? then acerole

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my only sand for now

proud axle
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Yeah, or Bertha or Ingo, but I didn't spot them on your roster

woeful wave
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ya dont have them yet

trail smelt
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Acerola works, she can hax enemies with flinching

proud axle
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We sent Skyla to another team, so we need to pick a new third member...

woeful wave
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AAron?

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or Hop

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I sandstorm into Cynthia's TM for the boosted state up right? so T1 and T2 will be to boost cynthia her self.

proud axle
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That can work. I'm a little worried about gauge after that, but Aaron and Acerola can spam 1bar moves so it might be fine

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As can Hop, actually.

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Hard choice. Heal Order versus Potion...

woeful wave
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Aaron can give the healing from TM as well

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Gradual Healing

proud axle
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Only to himself, but he's the one who needs it since he's tanking, so that's also good

woeful wave
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o ya... forgotten dont give others

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T1 and T2 will be cool,right for him?

proud axle
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I'd use Cool Right, and then Defend Order, and then the other Cool Right

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Or possibly even Defend Order first and then both Cool Rights

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...Diantha's Tyrantrum knows freaking Head Smash

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It's terrifying

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You can try Aaron first and then if that doesn't work out, you can switch to Hop and see if he does better

woeful wave
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do I grid into soothing sand, sand screen? , sand shelter, surging sand 2?

proud axle
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I think there are some grid recommendations in that one google doc... I'll see if I can find it for you

woeful wave
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I mean, it 3/5, so need to change abit

proud axle
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Aaaand the doc doesn't have a 2/5 recommendation

woeful wave
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well normally it 3/5 and above

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something likethis? then add in other ones

proud axle
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I'd go with this, then. You will really want Sands of Time for this fight, as Diantha has speed debuff skills

woeful wave
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ok, will try. just wonder if this can team can at least clear 850

proud axle
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Acerola just needs this

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She has no bulk so her TM will get her vaporized immediately

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Though if you use Permanent Field Effects, you might not even need Sandstorm MPR

woeful wave
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another quesiton, do I just Lyra sync all the time?

proud axle
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Depends on who else is on the team

woeful wave
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I using professor sycamore, SS erika and lyra

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I guess, sycamore once, then all lyra?

proud axle
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Silver also has Solarize so he can summon the sun himself. Despite his sync being the wrong type, he has way more offense power than Lyra, so it would hit harder.
Sycamore is EX, so if you sync with him, you get double the sync buff and +6SpDef. Erika would need to refresh the sun herself for the next cycle though

proud axle
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Though if you do the Siebold fight on round 1, you could have Sycamore sync once and then give the rest to Erika

woeful wave
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it depends on which parameter I facing the E4 then

proud axle
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Since the sun will be permanent so she doesn't need to recast it

woeful wave
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I got 3 team got field settler XD hahahah

proud axle
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Field effects can be really powerful in this game

woeful wave
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R1:
R2:Malva
R3:
R4:Drasna

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I cant decide on R1 and R3

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like do I need R3's eff?

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additional effect up

proud axle
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More like there are enemies you don't want with it

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For that matter, the same goes for R2

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Wikstrom's team has a lot of 30% flinch moves that become 60% on R3

woeful wave
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then R1 wikstrom will be the better choice?

proud axle
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R1 Wikstrom is also dangerous because it means you can't wait out his Steel Zone

woeful wave
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o ya ...

proud axle
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it's one of those pick your poison moments

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I'd put Wikstrom on R2 because his team isn't fully Special-heavy and R1 or R3 would be way worse to fight him

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On R2, you could even have Wally use Focus Blast to exploit the R2 modifier

woeful wave
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R3 on Malva looks fine then?

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dont think they got much eff going on

proud axle
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That could work.

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That means Siebold for R1, and that means you can have Sun and Gauge Accel Field the whole time

woeful wave
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do I need to sync up SSerika?

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lyra this one right

proud axle
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Skip the Sync+25 node, we don't care about Lyra's damage

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For this particular fight, since sun is permanent, you could even remove Solarize and see if you can reach Hit&Heal

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You also won't need Energy Ball MPR with all the Speed and the accel field

woeful wave
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likethis?

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o, SSerika dont really have anything ... 1/5

proud axle
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Looks like she even has energy left over

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You could save one use of her TM for when her regen expires, and use it just to reapply the regen

woeful wave
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O that one XD. I was thinking where was hit and heal

proud axle
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The enemy uses Muddy Water a lot so she'll take a lot of side damage

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Erika is the one most in danger of dying, but at least we can reduce the risk on Lyra

woeful wave
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Any chance of going higher than 850?

woeful wave
proud axle
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Those teams can probably do 2k with full grids

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Or at least 1500 (the old max)

woeful wave
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I can try. Since reseting is available

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I aim to at least get 4.2k

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EBE for Kalos is hard for my roster? I did try the builds shared. Not much success.

proud axle
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Calem can be defeated with an F2P team

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And only mid RNG

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I can't say much about Serena because I had the Neochamp Greninjas, and they destroy that fight

woeful wave
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hahaha, it ok. chat in the extreme chat?

proud axle
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Here, a link to the EBE channel where I posted my team, grids, and battle plan

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#1009557516369281075 message

woeful wave
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O ya, hmmm. well orbs no more hahaha

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lyra and cynthia took them

woeful wave
proud axle
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That can probably work

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Watch out against Drasna, though, I think she uses Toxic (with Viral 9) late in the fight

onyx ice
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Poor wilkstrom

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It was dojo Gloria max knuckle

proud axle
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...And with a Galar Master Pair

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Though do Master Skills even affect Max Moves...?

long thicket
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So I got Hop and it was still a bit of a close fight.

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I'll have to get used to his kit and it should feel better later.

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Diantha just took 2-3 tries.

onyx ice
proud axle
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Welp!

onyx ice
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The bulk of the damage was done by dojo Gloria

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Hop was more in the support role

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The nice thing was destroying the stage turn 3

proud axle
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It's kind of funny when the dude with 356 base Atk powering a 168BP move is the support

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His skillset does enable him to work like that, but yeah

onyx ice
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Not that close combat BP is much lower

proud axle
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It's like bringing a machine gun to a knife fight
when your job is to be the cheerleader for someone with a freaking bazooka

onyx ice
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The funny thing is that in some team comps Dojo Gloria plays the cheerleader part

proud axle
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I think I see how. She helps him ruin the enemy's defenses so his sync nuke is ready fast

onyx ice
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With Dojo Gloria i think the hop sync can be ready for 1st sync

woeful wave
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Energy problem hahaha

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@proud axle manage to clear 3 stage for 4.5k

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This team my need some changes

proud axle
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Roxanne instead of Elio, and let Bianca tank

woeful wave
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Ah, parameter 4 was so down aoe XD

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Will ask for advise tmr. Gtg 💤

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Still thank you so much. Was able to get 4.5k

marsh crater
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Can i go 2k with ss erika 2/5, silver solar beam? Last time can do 1.5k with xerneas. But i need xerneas to beat drasna. My lyra meganium is only 1/5

old orchid
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Its not recommended to use Silver here since Siebold loves spamming aoe water moves

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Do you have 2/5 Brendan at least?

marsh crater
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Yeah im counting on evasion for not hitting hooh

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Brendan sceptile? I dun have him

swift swan
proud axle
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Just like some Supports can strike, some Techs and Strikers can tank

marsh crater
proud axle
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Roxanne has lousy bulk; Bianca can probably tank better than Roxanne

marsh crater
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But yeah i think cant go 2k with my current roster

swift swan
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You just need to get used to the difficulty jump

marsh crater
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Heck. Maybe ill just offtype drasna with my greninja water team

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Since got chop maybe i can use him for wikstrom. Bea 1/5 or wally 2/5?

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Chop wally/bea. And for support is who?

swift swan
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Him alone should be enough i reckon

swift swan
marsh crater
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And wait i dun have team to beat diantha

marsh crater
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For diantha. Can i use ss diantha, cynthia and hmm hop or kiawe maybe? Argh dont have enough speed buffer

proud axle
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Cynthia demands sand, unless you mean a different one

marsh crater
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For sand. I only have accerola.

proud axle
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That is fine

marsh crater
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But cynthia is 1/5 honestly haih

proud axle
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Acerola has Aggravation 1 in her 1/5 grid for 60% flinch

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Sand MPR in 1/5 as well

marsh crater
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Can i tank with accerola?

mellow linden
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No

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She’s big squish

proud axle
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Absolutely not, she has no bulk. If she uses her TM, she will probably die

marsh crater
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I didnt use her tm though

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Hmm

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This ground is tough

mellow linden
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Can always just off-type

marsh crater
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Then have to off typw

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But using who?

proud axle
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You could go with a classic rain team, though watch out if they're Special. Diantha has SpAtk debuffs I think

mellow linden
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It would depend entirely on who you have

marsh crater
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Can i use kris ferraligtr?

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She is 5/5 now

proud axle
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Also Speed debuffs, so Inertia and Ramming Speed units might have problems

mellow linden
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Absolutely

proud axle
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Kris has Haymaker, right?

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That could work!

marsh crater
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I dunno. I didnt build her yet

mellow linden
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Kris + Rain setter + appropriate Support should work fine

marsh crater
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The recent pull make her to 5/5

mellow linden
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Grab Haymaker and Inertia from her grid at minimum

marsh crater
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The thing is i want to use rain team on drasna too but using greninja

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Lets see if i have more rain setter

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Ccalem is with cmarnie for malva

proud axle
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Ooh, Kris also has Super Powered 5

marsh crater
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Oh wait i have winona

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Nice

proud axle
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Not that it helps here

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But that is a cool thing I forgot

marsh crater
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Ok i can have 2 rain team

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Put winona with greninja

proud axle
marsh crater
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Maypert can go with kris

proud axle
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That leaves the Support. Hm...

marsh crater
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Hilbert 1/5?

proud axle
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Could work if you grid Kris for Critical Focus. But who else is here?

marsh crater
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We want what for kris maypert again?

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For cserena winona i can go with leaf eevee maybe

proud axle
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Kris/Maypert needs literally everything, is the problem

marsh crater
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Err give leaf eevee to them? She can buff everything and potion?

proud axle
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Could work. Grid Kris for Crit Focus and May for Dire Rain, and they can reach max crit on their own

marsh crater
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Dire rain? She can get it at 2/5 right?

proud axle
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I don't remember, sorry

marsh crater
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Oh she got it at 2/5 dire rain 1

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Ok its done

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Now the final problem. Sync orb

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Dang

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Wawawa this is tough

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talking strategies but cant do it cause no sync orb.

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I need to grid kris maypert and leaf. And to ex leaf

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And need to grid chop a bit too

storm moss
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Can someone help with Sieablod 😭

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SS Erika SS Morty and Kris just aren't doing it 😭

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MM

dark osprey
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Get an accuracy buffer/evasiveness debuffer

mellow linden
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Why is Kris there?

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No variant of her synergizes with SS Erika and SS Morty

proud axle
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The other person is using Kris but the other person is using her on a rain team, so that makes sense.
What's Kris doing on your sun team? MonkaScottie

storm moss
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For her tm

mellow linden
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So this is SS Kris we’re talking about?

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Because that’s even worse if so

storm moss
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Nah normal with meg

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SS Kris is with Archie lol

mellow linden
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Her Trainer Move doesn’t help anyone other than herself

paper summit
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what do you think her TM does? 🤨

mellow linden
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Wait

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You mean Lyra?

storm moss
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YEA

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Herrrr

mellow linden
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Oh

storm moss
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The one with meg

mellow linden
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That makes much more sense

proud axle
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Meg...anium. Okay, now I get it

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Does that team even need Morty, actually

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You could swap him out for a second Grass attacker

mellow linden
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What specifically is going wrong? I have a feeling the issue lies with lack of accuracy buffs

paper summit
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well, I'd rather swap Lyra for another attacker

storm moss
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That's what I'm using

mellow linden
mellow linden
proud axle
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I think I'd still lean Lyra for other reasons. For example Erika and Silver have Inertia, and Sycamore needs more Atk than Morty can give him

mellow linden
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Or even once if it’s under Sun

storm moss
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Lillie? And clefairy?

mellow linden
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Lillie can work for accuracy buffs

proud axle
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Sycamore (Xerneas) can grid for Impervious and just ignore the Acc debuffs

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At least, on himself

storm moss
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That's all I'm missing really the accuracy drop screws me over

proud axle
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Gardenia can grid for Sunny Disposition and also ignore Acc debuffs during sun (or invert them to Acc buffs with her TM)

storm moss
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I thought that

mellow linden
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Let’s start by swapping Lyra for an accuracy buffer and see how that goes

storm moss
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I'll add Lille and see how it goes

proud axle
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Do you happen to have Maxie/Groudon?

mellow linden
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SS Erika can use her Trainer Move once under Sun to handle the majority of her offensive buffs

storm moss
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I usually sunny day then soak the sun then speed then spam leaf blade

proud axle
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Maxie's TM gives himself +1Acc so the enemy will need to debuff him twice to bring him to the negatives, while he blasts them with Solar Beam

storm moss
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I only have Archie

proud axle
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Darn

storm moss
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Yee

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Let's try Lillie ☺

proud axle
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Well, if the acc-buffer plan doesn't work, I'll still suggest trying Lyra + Sycamore(Impervious grid) + SSErika next

drowsy perch
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I just got my first 10k this week. I beat Siebold 2k twice so far using Sycamore&Xerneas/Leaf&Venusaur(2/5)/Viola&Masquerain. Only EX was Xerneas. Just did poison/trap stall. Viola just traps and then spams struggle bug. Venusaur just spams razor leaf. Xerneas just stays alive with horn leech. Just in case that hasnt been recommended a hundred times. I gave up trying to brute force it with my limited roster.

proud axle
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...I feel like that team could have won with raw damage if Viola was swapped for a crit support. But you already won, so that's okay

drowsy perch
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Maybe! I had never tried poison stall before, and wanted to see in action.

proud axle
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By the way, LuciferBlair, which round are you trying this in

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Round 1 would be great so you don't have to recast Sun

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Round 3 is risky because the acc drops become more frequent

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Round 2 is also risky because the enemy's offense is pure special

storm moss
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I get killed by sync

mellow linden
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I’m kinda surprised Siebold is getting to his Sync, tbh. How many Syncs did you get before Siebold’s Sync went off?

storm moss
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Omg FINALLY

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This was round 4

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I did leaf SS mor SS Erika

proud axle
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That leaves the championship match. Good luck, Tyrantrum's Head Smash is terrifying

storm moss
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Synced with leave then SS Erika before even one sync from sia

teal siren
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What is a good grid for Erika and Lyra? Trying to 2k Siebold and I have Aaron gridded for precision pals.

storm moss
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BRUH THE FLIPPING FLINCHES

mellow linden
proud axle
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You could also swap Aaron out instead, for a second grass attacker who doesn't need to worry about acc down. Sycamore/Xerneas can grid for Impervious, for example. (Erika would still need to worry about acc down though)

mellow linden
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Let’s wait and see if that would even be necessary

manic kiln
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acc is the last thing you need to worry about

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ex support is needed

proud axle
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Well, Lyra has really good special bulk and that fight's offense is pure special

mellow linden
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As for SS Erika grid, get Solar Flare and Sunny Day MP Refresh and you’ll be good. That’s about the only important stuff she has at 2/5

proud axle
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Plus Light Screen

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It might well be the case that the Acc Down is the problem they're having in this fight

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Especially if they're fighting Siebold on Round 3 (to prevent it from going to Wikstrom and his many flinches)

teal siren
mellow linden
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Marley or Lodge Dawn would work well

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If that ends up not working out you could try swapping Lyra back in or making other team comp adjustments

sand karma
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That's the main reason he's there

peak rune
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Just do 2k Siebold poison stall, feels like a no-brainer because they're full of special attackers

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Unless you intend to keep your best poison team for something else

storm moss
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SS Gio, SS blue and Courtney

hollow night
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Hi i need help for build teams for 10k this week, I have this

zealous karma
# hollow night Hi i need help for build teams for 10k this week, I have this

Is this your first time attempting master mode champion stadium/10K if so I’d rather aim for a lower score such as 7.5K as the rewards past even 4K are somewhat minimal and Kalos is very tough and not to devalue your roster but the lack of high move levels/potential sync orb shortage may make it difficult but 4-7.5K should be doable

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As for teams you can try and work with are
Skyla Brendan SSEirika -Grass
Nessa Masked Royal hop -Dark
Bea sonia Nanu -Fighting
Gio Lucian sycamore -Psychic
Courtney cynthia a crit buffer like maylene could work - ground

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I didn’t initial see the move lebels on some units so 2K might be doable

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The pins has recommendations for parameters as well in case you haven’t seen them

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Some notes
Psychic sync with lucian
Fighting Nanu can just spam screech or flinch shouldn’t fully matter which
For ground first sync cynthia second sync courtney
Don’t forget to use masked Royal TM twice to help his innate inertia

hollow night
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Ok thanks for the tips

zealous karma
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Yw do make sure to eventually read

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+11

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+101

frozen depotBOT
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Teambuilding 101:

Step 1: pick a damage dealer ( StrikeP / StrikeS or Tech with high damage)

  • take a look at their moveset; note what they buff themselves in terms of offensive stats (Critical Hit Rate, Speed, Attack for physical damage dealer / Special Attack for special damage dealer)

Step 2: picking appropriate Support for your damage dealer

  • take a look at your Support through the filter option and the Known Moves tab and pick two teammates that fill in what your damage dealer is missing (Critical Hit Rate, Speed, Attack for physical damage dealer / Special Attack for special damage dealer )

Addendum: if your damage dealer's needs can be filled in with only one support, then your third team slot is more flexible and you can choose defensive Support (potions, buffing defenses, lowering attack) or a second damage dealer

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zealous karma
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If you haven’t already

hollow night
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Ok ok thanks

zealous karma
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Ye anytime if you face any struggles don’t be afraid to say smth I have a lot of the same units so I should be able to help

hollow night
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Thanks

zealous karma
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Yw lel

woeful wave
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Not sure how to clear this

nocturne pawn
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bianca gio sabrina should work

proud axle
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I worry for that team's gauge income with Sabrina at 1/5

woeful wave
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May need to play without the -2 gauge

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Or just lower to 850 XD

proud axle
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With the current team (Roxanne), my battle plan would be something like...
Turn 1: X Def All --> Nowhere to Hide --> Psy Terrain
Turn 2: Study Buddies --> Nowhere to Hide --> Snooze, Lose
Turn 3: Study Buddies --> (Giovanni) Psychic --> Snooze, Lose
Turn 4: Giovanni sync --> X Def All --> Stored Power --> Quadqueue (Giovanni) Psychic

woeful wave
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Hmm, do I need to grid Giovanni?

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The dmg output is not that high XD

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Or just lower to 850. Don't think it will lose that much

swift swan
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minimal grid should be fine

swift swan
zealous karma
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Having my bianca and Gio Ex is a pain lel

woeful wave
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I need the 2 yellow right

zealous karma
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J game kt you’re low on orbs if so that’s a fine grid

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Ye

woeful wave
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I spent all on lyra and Cynthia

rigid flint
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Just a random tip but be sure to do the 10 sync orb battles every day

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They don’t cost any stamina

zealous karma
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I hope you’d do that regardless it’s 10 free bp

rigid flint
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That’s also true

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Either way that grid is good enuf

woeful wave
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How much orb I need? Not sure how the con

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Convertion rate

woeful wave
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Time to kill legendarys for orbs again

zealous karma
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Take off one of the on a rolls if you cannot afford it

woeful wave
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Lower to 454. Should be able after reset

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For context. Currently round 4.

zealous karma
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I’ve never used Gio in terrain before or at least I haven’t done so in months and he hits much harder than I recall

woeful wave
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Tmr calem getting power boost?

rigid flint
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Nope

woeful wave
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Btw without the boost from smarty pants and brainteasers. My gio won't hit that much right

rigid flint
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Those 2 abilities help him quite a bit

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Even without that in psychic terrain he should still hit quite hard

woeful wave
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Hmm. Well if I can't clear. I will lower to 850 later.

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I hit my goal of at least 4.2k and above

zealous karma
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Congratz!

woeful wave
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For me, siebold one is easier than it looks. Wikstrom took a few try because did something wrongly. Malva got remove. Stuck at Drasna for now

zealous karma
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I sadly can’t help you the best of my ability due to my Gio being ex but I’ll try and show you the gist of the fight

woeful wave
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Ok, if only this happen after Kanto VA release on the 9th hahaha

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Then my gio also ex

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Was the plan to kill within 2 sync? Having an energy problem after gio sync for the first time.

swift swan
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roxanne should be buffing speed to max

zealous karma
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I played this sloppily mainly due to a lack of TM MPR but this is how the battle should look

swift swan
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and keep using bianca's stored power instead of psychic

zealous karma
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I did that with gridless bianca as I wasn’t paying attention to yours move level

woeful wave
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Ok. Will try later after reset

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It 1/5 for bianca.

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But I get the idea. Should I kill the side first?

zealous karma
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Ye

neon kiln
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@undone brook this is what i have atm

undone brook
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Have you done all of the Legendary Adventures yet?

neon kiln
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just dunno who i should focus on raising for the champion stadium

neon kiln
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gonna do the hop one later

undone brook
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Free units are nice

neon kiln
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for sure lol

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so do i need to build 5 different supports and 10 dps for champion stadium?

undone brook
neon kiln
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i think sync grid gonna be a problem for me

undone brook
neon kiln
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i did

undone brook
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oh ig it doesn't work here

proud axle
neon kiln
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i also have watch some guide where it stated that support is a must usually someone that can tank and buff

proud axle
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Nothing wrong with partial grids either

neon kiln
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while dps can be between strike or tech

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where strike is for aoe sync while tech is single target nuke sync

proud axle
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Yeah. There are exceptions of course, but that is the pattern

undone brook
neon kiln
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but thats for ex 6* i assume, most my units are still 5*

proud axle
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Sycamore can serve as the attacker pretty well in the right team, for example, even though he's a support

neon kiln
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and i needed to tackle champion stadium if i want to ex my unit in the future

undone brook
neon kiln
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thats where my concern comes if i can tackle this content asap

undone brook
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Getting the rest of the Legendary Adventures units should probably be a priority, they're great units that are easily upgradable besides grids

neon kiln
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its such a weird thing i needed champion spirit while this content sounds hard

neon kiln
proud axle
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...Huh?

undone brook
neon kiln
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im stuck either way, but i alr pick up this game might as well give it a shot

proud axle
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Like, Giovanni doesn't need his grid to do his main thing (blast things with Psychic)

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You could leave his grid empty and just put him into teams

undone brook
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Since you can't do master mode this week Champ Marnie should be able to easily deal with Malva

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Or any other type if you really wanted apparently

neon kiln
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I see, well i know that i need to raise gio for sure, since good support is hard to come by, so is unit like sonia

proud axle
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Marnie is comically swole

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500+ SpAtk, 150+ power on her main move. And when her HP isn't full (such as after she uses her TM), her SpAtk rockets to 700+

neon kiln
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but to what point do i raise them, lv 125? and leave their sync grid

proud axle
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100 is enough, 120 is plenty

undone brook
neon kiln
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should i focus on dps sync grid or support sync grid first?

undone brook
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I'd say grid on a per-need basis

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Esp if you're new

proud axle
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Level-up growths steadily grow more and more extreme until 100, at which they drop to almost a flatline

undone brook
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I'd say easiest way to get ready for CS is to make all your teams in advance even if it's a little overwhelming and build around different strikers like it said in 101

neon kiln
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grid priority is the tough one xD

proud axle
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120 is fairly easy to reach; the required items are probably going to just... fall into your lap on their own

neon kiln
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and the team building is basing off element?

undone brook
neon kiln
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let say for this week champion stadium?

proud axle
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Using the wrong element on purpose is called "off-type" and sometimes we do it when our on-type options suck.

undone brook
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How many level up items do you have rn and can you comfortably level up units?

neon kiln
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tho from what i see the most important support is this game is the crit buffer and defensive buffer

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as crit bypass defend

proud axle
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Nah

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It's the crit buffer and the speed buffer

neon kiln
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and defensive buffer to survive those hard hitting stages

proud axle
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Your team's combined speed determines how fast your gauge fills

neon kiln
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speed buffer huh

proud axle
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So more speed means you can use bigger moves more often

neon kiln
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yea speed sounds good too

undone brook
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Defensive buffer isn't mandatory, and depending on team, speed isn't mandatory either

proud axle
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Imagine being able to spam 3bar or 4bar moves

undone brook
proud axle
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It's... pretty rare for you to not need a speed buff on a team, fwiw

neon kiln
undone brook
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I typically don't think about speed when teambuilding but that's my playstyle

neon kiln
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like the one sycamore has

proud axle
proud axle
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It's shorter than the time between two sync moves

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And, well, Sycamore only has 1 MP for that move

undone brook
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I think easiest way to figure out who/what you need to upgrade is to build out the teams first

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So just pick a unit that you want to build around and we might be able to give advice from there

neon kiln
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so speed is still the better one compare to gauge accel

undone brook
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Imo yeah

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But it all depends on team

proud axle
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Teamwide speed, ideally. But if there's one member with a ridiculously high personal speed, then it might be enough to just buff that person's

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If I can get two members in a team who coincidentally buff their own speed, I usually call that sufficient without needing a teamwide speed buff

neon kiln
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I see

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some dps does have their own speed self buff

proud axle
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Yeah

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I did it just now in the Extreme Battle against Piers.

neon kiln
proud axle
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Bea and Neochamp Hop both have self speed, so my third member (Cynthia/Lucario) was fine without needing it herself

neon kiln
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nice, i have bea and hop too, i just dont know which support i should bring for them

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since i dont have cynthia

proud axle
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Sonia can work

neon kiln
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gotcha thanks

proud axle
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If you don't have her, it becomes much more difficult to pick someone

neon kiln
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i guess i will build those 3 and try to go for wilkstorm

proud axle
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Oh, for Champion Stadium

neon kiln
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looks like he is weak to fighting

proud axle
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Well, I guess it kind of still applies

neon kiln
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yeah

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lv 120, gridless, hope i can beat it

proud axle
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I think it can work, they have enough stuff in their base skillsets

neon kiln
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plus hop has dire hit all, this look doable

proud axle
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But I'd lean towards facing someone else first

neon kiln
neon kiln
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malva?

proud axle
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Basically, Sun teambuilds are great against Siebold, and they benefit from the permanent fields modifier for Round 1 much more

neon kiln
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sun terrain huh

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i mean weather

proud axle
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You can use someone like Silver/Ho-oh there, with his Hyper Beam (but watch out, the enemy uses water and he's weak against that)

undone brook
undone brook
proud axle
neon kiln
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F looks like siebold is the tough one for me

proud axle
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If she can't get sun, she can still just use her TM to invert a stat-down to a stat-up

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And get past the acc problem that way

neon kiln
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I see so hooh is worth bringing

undone brook
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Might be, unsure if he'll survive getting hit by random muddy waters though

neon kiln
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Btw do i need to worry about gear?

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I don’t see any easy way to farm gear

undone brook
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It's nice to have, but I'd say don't worry about it at all

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It's a pain to farm without an event, but there is one coming later this month

proud axle
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Gear sucks unless it's 3star, and those are event-exclusive

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But when the events come around, they're really easy to get

neon kiln
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Oof

proud axle
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You can get a set fully upgraded within an afternoon without too much fuss

neon kiln
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I will just wait i guess

proud axle
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Yeah

neon kiln
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Thanks a bunch for the infos, a 3.5 yo game sure has alot catching up

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At least alot of 3* and 4* units seem useful

proud axle
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Yeah, and DeNA has been gradually going back and adding skilltrees to them

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Some of which made them go from zero to hero

neon kiln
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Thats good for the longevity of the game

proud axle
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Roark, the rock guy with the mining helmet, was the butt of so many jokes since launch
But now he's got better turn-by-turn damage output than some 5stars

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He got his skilltree added just last week

neon kiln
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Old game need to be newbie friendly if they want to keep it going

undone brook
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A month or two in, most content shouldn't be too too hard

proud axle
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If you invest your resources well, yeah

undone brook
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Or at least getting the most important resources

proud axle
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The issue with low-rarity skilltrees being added... they cost orbs

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And you're stretched kinda thin!

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At least it means you can have someone who can match a 5star's output eventually

neon kiln
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So besides lv looks like orb is the most important power boost

proud axle
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Absolutely, the skilltree (sync grid) is pretty important for a lot of characters

neon kiln
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Whats next after ex?

proud axle
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Eh... EXing someone else, usually

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Starting with your Supports, especially

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The saying goes... an EX Striker or EX Tech can make a hard fight easy, but an EX Support can make an impossible fight winnable

neon kiln
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Well i know candy is another important one but i doubt those are easy to come by in first place

proud axle
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5star candies are rare af, yeah

neon kiln
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Good to know

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50% dmg boost

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Thats huge I guess

proud axle
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It can pay off fast

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For some characters, the sync move isn't even that much stronger than their regular move

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So the +50% damage is a bigger deal than having a stronger unit use their sync

neon kiln
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Gotcha

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So i should ex 5 support units first

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Before anything else

proud axle
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I would recommend it!

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Get some other opinions just in case my ideas are outdated tho

zealous karma
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Many people would highly recommend it

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Even now

neon kiln
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Then for sure i need to tackle champion stadium

proud axle
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Fortunately... I think there are 20 iGoldPowerUp for Rosa in bingo stuff, so that's one EX Support ready

neon kiln
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Is 5* power up hard to get?

proud axle
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And the Sycamore event gives him his EX right now, so that's two

zealous karma
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I would say so

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Especially if you are new

proud axle
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Yeah, iGoldPowerUp are the actual bottleneck

zealous karma
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+legexchange

frozen depotBOT
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When completing a Legendary Adventure in the Main Story section, you will be awarded a sync pair, 4 vouchers and 20 power-ups iGoldPowerUp (usable on that pair only)

  • Trade the vouchers for copies of that pair (in the shop > legendary adventure tab)
  • DO NOT TRADE the power-ups, use all 20 on the unlocked pair (in upgrade > potential tab)
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proud axle
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iChampSpirit are easier to get than iGoldPowerUp

proud axle
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Though nowadays our iGoldPowerUp income is higher than before... The Trainer Lodge has 20 of them in each guest's Lv1-100 reward list

neon kiln
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Tats good news

proud axle
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Let's see, Blue, Silver, Rosa, and Sycamore are free, so that's... huh, four characters' worth of iGoldPowerUp for the harvest

neon kiln
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Tho raising guest lv takes time as well

proud axle
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Yeah, it does

neon kiln
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But worth it, im definitely doing it

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So many bottleneck, power up, spirit then orbs

tender shore
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should I just off type wilkstrom?
I tried using Bea with defense down units and I tried using Wally's focus blast

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oh doing him stage 4 would probably help...

zealous karma
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Solgaleo works greatly for fighting week

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If you can provide him crit buffs

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If you can raise maylene to 4* she’s a great support for him

tender shore
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well solgaleo gets deleted by ground weakness in that fight

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I'm going to do Siebold and come back to wilkstrom

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istg I have so few sp def tanks

grand trout
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Do you have gladion?

grand trout
zealous karma
grand trout
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Oof

zealous karma
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And not sure what gladion is like at all at non ex mine is not gridded or ex

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But Solgaleo should be fine it’s fighting DPS is not bad at all

grand trout
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I used gladion ex this week for wikstrom

undone brook
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@neon kiln idk if you already did it, but here's a team i did gridless for this stage

grand trout
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I could've used bea but i used her weeks and i kinda don't like repeating units

undone brook
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your attackers go down once the opponent syncs, but sycamore can carry after

tender shore
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literally all of my supports with sp def up

zealous karma
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Eevee + Maylene + Solgaleo could work

tender shore
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if I use solgalro I should probably do wilkstrom round 3 then since round 4 is special def hm

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I assume diantha champion is also special damage?

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it won't let me check the champion battle obviously

zealous karma
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LeafEevee should be able to tank fine and can stagger just in case round 3/4 can work I think

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That… could be worse

tender shore
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wait I'm confused, why would you use maylene with solgaleo? she does attack and focus blast is special

zealous karma
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She buffs Spd and critical hit tate

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Rate

tender shore
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fair enough

zealous karma
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Actually scratch that I tried the team and it didn’t work I did have the wrong grid but I don’t see it changing a lot wik has a lot of hp

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And I did this on round 2 as well…

tender shore
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i mean there's always poison but I was planning on using that on diantha, plus I already used Morty mismagius

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maybe I can force off type with Lillie lunala but I thought the intention was you were supposed to use physical on that fight because it recommends using defense down.
also I'm tryna do hall of fame and wanted to get fighting done since wilk is fighting weak

zealous karma
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Lemme try Bruno brb

tender shore
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well, I'm gonna go to bed you can ping me and I'll see it tmr if you want

zealous karma
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That was a lot worse lel

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Alr lel

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I would just off type it assuming you have a strong off@ typing striker

tender shore
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I'll probably just brute force off type

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I have Lillie lunala

neon kiln
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i will just copy that lol

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thanks for helping out on my HW