Cserena and iris doing 1.5k damage after sync on brutal swing and snarl
#Champion Stadium
versed meteor
rigid flint
Yeah that’s considered pretty low
nocturne pawn
yeah they arent doing much becayse those are aoe moves
you want to use cerena’s sync when shes in dark type
thats where your damage will come from
versed meteor
Back in the day i usually ran masked royale karen and sc jasmine
Debuff hell for opponents
rigid flint
You’d be better off using Water Shuriken twice then Brutal Swing, then her TM
proud axle
Sync on turn 5?
rigid flint
Well there’s the other pairs
magic crown
I haven't used Karen in minute she's so fun to use
magic crown
Max hp
magic crown
I'mma try Sidney next I used the masked royal In my 10k run he did well
Lmao Sidney obliterated this stage 😂
mellow linden
Wow
proud axle
I'm going to be pulling on the Master Fairs so I think I'll just wait until tomorrow and bulldoze it with CMarnie
onyx ice
Sydney hits really hard
I'm planning on scouting on Marnie, so Striker Persian won't enjoy the crown of my best special dark DPS (without a mandatory sync) for much
latent eagle
I can't beat malva 
proud axle
What team are you using, and is this Hard mode or Master mode
latent eagle
What team are you using, and is this Hard mode or Master mode
MM, karen/rosa/skyla
proud axle
mellow linden
Could try Roxanne and a different EX tank over Rosa/Skyla, maybe?
proud axle
What is Karen's move level? I'm not seeing a way for her to make proper use of Dirty and Foul Fighting
full mesa
Lmao Sidney obliterated this stage 😂
Second sync? I didn't bother with it. First sync was with Sidney to mega evolve and then I just spammed brutal sync for 4 turns.
latent eagle
Could try Roxanne and a different EX tank over Rosa/Skyla, maybe?
Would I need to use wide guard at all?
latent eagle
What is Karen's move level? I'm not seeing a way for her to make proper use of D...
5/5
mellow linden
I don’t think so? Roxanne would mainly be there for Sp. Atk. and Speed buffs
And Defense/Sp. Def. buffs
proud axle
So you need someone who can inflict a status condition and an interference to make the most use of Karen's multipliers... unless you gridded her differently?
Lucy or BPErika are common choices for it
latent eagle
So you need someone who can inflict a status condition and an interference to ma...
I think I just have her gridded as a flincher atm
proud axle
Then maybe you might be better off with a second dark striker to work alongside. What other units do you have, which know Dark-type moves?
proud axle
Ooh, Masked Royal.
I might try something like Masked Royal, Karen, and a support with crit buffs (Piers is in the photo but there are certainly others)
Hilbert, if he's 3/5, can help Masked Royal get his stuff ready sooner-- so he can skip using X Atk
zinc island
What's up with this champion stadium week? its way harder than normal
proud axle
More like last week was easy for Kalos standards
proud axle
I haven't tried it yet but I'm going to be pulling for the new Master Pairs... so I might just steamroll Malva with Neochamp Marnie
Ah, Siebold with his Muddy Water shenanigans
There are some ways to deal with that. Is it the acc drops getting you, or is it the actual damage?
zinc island
Malva was the hardest one for me until now i had to use neo champion calem, neo champion serena and piers
zinc island
There are some ways to deal with that. Is it the acc drops getting you, or is it...
The actual damage
proud axle
Group healing or group SpDef... Ah, the irony that my first thought would've been SSKris
Last thing we need is to give the Muddy Water rain
zinc island
Does sun not give water moves debuffs?
proud axle
Not in this game, no
zinc island
Oh
proud axle
It still thaws Freeze but doesn't nerf water
zinc island
Then setting up sun with SS erika is only helping with speeding sun really
proud axle
It can help in other ways (a lot of Grass attackers get bonuses in sun)
Just not for survivability
zinc island
Yes
And that's exactly what i need
I most of the times can't even survive long enough until he syncs
proud axle
Think, think, thonk... Who had Lightscree--
Lyra!
proud axle
Elio has X SpDef All, I think, so that's an option
Sycamore is also an option if you haven't used him yet
zinc island
I was using BP clemont for that
proud axle
Oh, let me recheck his moveset
Ah, Acc up and SpDef up
BP supports tend to be kinda glassy... Hm.
zinc island
The team i'm using at the moment is ss erika clemont amd ex sycamore
proud axle
I'm not sure you need Clemont there, then
The acc is nice, but hm...
Sycamore doesn't have max crit for his Horn Leech either
Wasn't there another...?
zinc island
Maybe i should decrease his attack and increase defense or hp?
zinc island
I do have elesa joltik on 3/5
zinc island
Alright should i change her for clemont?
proud axle
Maybe!
You could try it like that, and then come back if it fails again; we can try figuring out what we can improve
proud axle
Good luck! 🍀
zinc island
Thanks
latent eagle
Still can't beat malva
latent eagle
What’s the team anyway?
Karen/skyla/hilbert
rotund lagoon
Regular or BP Karen…?
latent eagle
Regular or BP Karen…?
Regular
rotund lagoon
Hilbert and her do not synergize.
She wants a Sp Atk buffer (and probably help with Crit)
latent eagle
Someone literally said use hilbert so—
She can buff herself hilbert is for the crit
rotund lagoon
Idk who told you…but if you can’t beat Malva, and with a team like that, may need some switching.
latent eagle
Yeah probably I’m just not sure what to do
rotund lagoon
You saw what I told you, right…?
rotund lagoon
She wants a Sp Atk buffer (and probably help with Crit)
This
Also you know she needs first sync, correct?
latent eagle
Also you know she needs first sync, correct?
Yeah, and for sp atk, I have Rosa and Lyra not sure about anyone else, most just do sp atk to themselves
proud axle
Someone literally said use hilbert so—
...???
I said to use Karen Masked Royal and Hilbert
proud axle
Or "someone who gives crit" because Masked Royal gives the speed
Hilbert was a suggestion to help MR get started Lariat-ing sooner
So he can skip X Atk
rotund lagoon
Yeah that is completely fair with that team.
proud axle
I like using double striker compositions, y'see
latent eagle
...???
I said to use Karen **Masked Royal** and Hilbert
I then came back here and said it wasn’t working and someone else said double support I think?
latent eagle
manic kiln
if you struggle double support is better than double dps, karen is fine
latent eagle
I also do have nessa
nocturne pawn
wait doesnt sidney wreck this stage
confusion disables acute senses if you werent running gradual healing and he nukes really hard
onyx ice
Maybe the problem may be the sides, depending on who people are running him with
Sidney DPS isn't the bestest
zinc island
I finaly beat siebold omg i hate him so much may you never get another alt or see the light of day again.
nocturne pawn
Maybe the problem may be the sides, depending on who people are running him with
i mean sidney mr hilbert is more coherent than karen mr hilbert
so theres that at least
and you can roll for waterfall flinches
onyx ice
Yes with Hilbert Sidney is fine
Hilbert takes out the sides while Sidney takes out the mid
rotund lagoon
Bruh I’d rather use Sidney or Nessa than Karen anyday
onyx ice
Not an huge fan of Karen and Houndoom
I'd rather use Striker Alolan Persian than Houndoom
rotund lagoon
Karen’s first sync for DPS does not help tbh
I prefer Blue over her despite them having some similarities.
Tho Blue feels like a powerhouse compared to her, he has a DPS multiplier for accuracy
onyx ice
Karen multipliers are too annoying
onyx ice
I prefer Blue over her despite them having some similarities.
Is more that hurricane has high bp
rotund lagoon
Makes sense
onyx ice
Dark pulse BP isn't that high so without her multipliers karen DPS isn't the bestest
Not a huge fan of damage dealers that have to sync, unless the sync is really good
And with good i mean also easy to setup
However i think the only units that really need to sync are Houndoom, Pidgeot and Lopunny
However those are great for gauntlet
But in master mode, not really
rotund lagoon
However i think the only units that really need to sync are Houndoom, Pidgeot an...
Diantha
She has Fairy Power 5.
onyx ice
Diantha at least has moonblast even at base
Isn't that she's stuck with dazzling gleam till mega
Mega helps her a lot, but isn't 100% mandatory
Houndoom if doesn't mega is completely useless
nocturne pawn
fp5 sync buff and mega stat more than doubles dps though
vagrant shuttle
Could I have some help? It's master mode. Have the points from 4700 to 6000
onyx ice
Unless your plan is to use her as a sp debuffer only
nocturne pawn
the issue is that you dont have a support
zerena doesnt need sand so you can drop bertha
vagrant shuttle
Okie
onyx ice
the issue is that you dont have a support
Not that they need a support
paper summit
I mean, they need gauge
paper summit
as strong as Serena is, you accomplish nothing without gauge to attack
nocturne pawn
shes weak to rock isnt she
ok never mind skyla wont work
uh do you have ssb on standby still
onyx ice
as strong as Serena is, you accomplish nothing without gauge to attack
Maybe BOGO 9 + rejuvenate
vagrant shuttle
I used him
vagrant shuttle
Maybe BOGO 9 + rejuvenate
Yes bogo no rejuv
nocturne pawn
yeah just drop bertha for someone who can buff defense and can take a hit well
onyx ice
Would say skyla but she's rock weak
Maybe BP clemont
Has charging infliction on screech
long thicket
Oh gosh, Fighting again...
nocturne pawn
Has charging infliction on screech
hes a little frail imo
long thicket
Thank gosh for Fighting zone soon.
nocturne pawn
i tried using him on siebold and he went down to endure in 2 hits
onyx ice
hes a little frail imo
His tm buffs defenses
onyx ice
Few units can tank an head smash
nocturne pawn
no on siebold
onyx ice
At least he has endure
nocturne pawn
maybe hes just not as good specially
onyx ice
Siebold hits kinda hard
nocturne pawn
also for me ex 140 kiawe tanked head smash relatively comfortably
got dropped to red but double master healer potion got him almost back up to full
onyx ice
Starts at +1 spa with furious brain
nocturne pawn
oh
onyx ice
And can muddy water your whole team right off the bat
onyx ice
Don't really who they had in mind for this stage
onyx ice
But the gimmick of dropping accuracy doesn't seems to work too much in her favor
nocturne pawn
actually
nocturne pawn
But the gimmick of dropping accuracy doesn't seems to work too much in her favor
she drops evasion
and spatk
sweet scent and shuddering snarl
onyx ice
she drops evasion
Yes maybe that's it if the stage has 0 evasion mitigation
nocturne pawn
well thats what it says in the battle tips
onyx ice
Ok evasion is 30% mitigation
long thicket
Victor is a beast.
zinc island
Finaly dome with CS please no more Kalos
onyx ice
Mist protects from accuracy drops and haze removes the buffs
nocturne pawn
They wanted us to use SS misty
but shes water
onyx ice
but shes water
I mean as a supporter
SS Erika and SS misty released together
It makes sense that they can be used together
vagrant shuttle
It still won't work
long thicket
Finaly dome with CS please no more Kalos
Hoenn and Sinnoh are more dangerous imo.
Oh shoot, Diantha is ground, so Victor is out.
Ah well, I have other options.
latent eagle
Yeah I have no idea what to do for malva
zinc island
Diantha i just used ex sonia cynthia and courtney
rotund lagoon
Yeah I have no idea what to do for malva <:VolknerDed:637919473931649024>
We told you multiple options.
zinc island
Ex Courtney actually but i don't think the ex made much of a difference
rotund lagoon
@proud axle You have been summoned!
latent eagle
We told you multiple options.
And i can’t beat it still/don’t remember them bc too many messages kept coming so I lost the messages
rotund lagoon
Use Sidney or Nessa as the damage dealer.
long thicket
Oh yeah, that Serena can help.
As well as Maxie.
Malva took a few tries, but considering I did it with the Greninjas, maybe I was doing it too easy...
EX Masked Royale was the unit to do the heavy hitting for me.
versed meteor
Alright let me use sycamore for Siebold because sc rosa cant take any hit even at max hp, oh shit already used him
What tf is with this damn kalos csmm its just dumb
onyx ice
For diantha i just used SS Giovanni, Courtney and Leon
onyx ice
Love infinite field effect rule
rigid flint
Damn
Bea-utiful
Oh wait I just realised something
The earthquake that the Rhyperior uses after Diantha is defeated is boosted by ground zone
If you have Courtney on your team
onyx ice
Yes it is
rigid flint
Not that it bothered me much but that’s interesting
onyx ice
Generally i don't let sides land their aoe attack
trail smelt
Cynthia kills everyone at the same time anyway lol, never had to worry about AoE
trail smelt
… why is Courtney already dead on turn 2
onyx ice
… why is Courtney already dead on turn 2
Head smash
rigid flint
Head Smash probably
trail smelt
Oh wait half HP
onyx ice
Yes, but i shouldn't have took it since Leon has healthy super hit and not supreme entry
Still proceed with super preparation
But i guess even without seun his max quake should have been enough to delete the right
Courtney going down turn 1 isn't a big deal, she was there just to set ground zone
rigid flint
Yeah true
proud axle
<@154028997355896832> You have been summoned!
Huh what
onyx ice
She could have been even lv1 for her job
proud axle
Sorry, I'm at work and Discord's in a browser tab so I didn't see the ping (and also I need to leave rn)
onyx ice
Funni
Just noticed we did almost the same damage, but mine was without sync buff
Did u pick full strength?
proud axle
I could formulate a plan but it wouldn't be based on experience (I'm just gonna pull for Champion Marnie and flatten it with her tomorrow)
rigid flint
Did u pick full strength?
Oh I just did regular pre sync params
onyx ice
Plus it was 3/5 with +100 max quake tile
onyx ice
Ok mine was without strength i think
rigid flint
Ah
onyx ice
Generally i pick strength 3, but i took half hp and half mp so it was no strength i think
rigid flint
Interesting params
onyx ice
Maybe i should have took strength 2 and not half hp
rigid flint
Yeah maybe
onyx ice
Just for leon
rigid flint
How did Leon do btw?
onyx ice
How did Leon do btw?
rigid flint
Oh not bad
onyx ice
Considering he was at +2 att
rigid flint
For having +2 atk only that’s pretty good
onyx ice
But seun triggered from super preparation
rigid flint
Ah so it has seun too
onyx ice
Forgot he needed to start with full hp to trigger it
onyx ice
Ah so it has seun too
Doesn't have +100 BP on grid
rigid flint
Yeah that I’m aware of
onyx ice
And +2 att hinders it
rigid flint
I used to use Leon for ground weak
onyx ice
But to clear a side it was enough
rotund lagoon
Sorry, I'm at work and Discord's in a browser tab so I didn't see the ping (and ...
I can wait, the person hasn’t responded to me.
onyx ice
He did the about the same as Giovanni's mega kick
proud axle
I guess I can fool around with Nessa MR Hilbert vs Malva and see what's what
I think they would be able to copy that teambuild
rigid flint
Damn Giovanni does that much just from mega kick huh
I’ve gotta rack up them candies to candy him ahhh
onyx ice
It was seun but still impressive for no sync buffs
proud axle
onyx ice
Considering support ex is 2x while seun is 1.5x
proud axle
EX Support sync and then left side denial
rigid flint
And mine was support Ex and seun
proud axle
Deny the right and then MR sync snipes the boss for the win
This was round 1 because I'm in a hurry
onyx ice
And mine was support Ex and seun
Probably strength 8 mattered
onyx ice
Generally i play strength 3 or 4
rigid flint
Ah
onyx ice
Maybe 5
proud axle
@latent eagle Here, I won it with this, 2k
rigid flint
Do u not do strength 8 for a reason or
onyx ice
I generally play with -2 sync
proud axle
Anyway, I'll probably reset tomorrow and see how Neochamp Marnie does it
onyx ice
Sometimes even -3
rigid flint
Gl for Marnie!
onyx ice
I the Giovanni run was -3
onyx ice
I mean for the Giovanni run could have been even -4 since they where done turn 2
rigid flint
Time to go to the EBE channel
onyx ice
Giovanni damage is impressive but this guy is the MVP
Considering rock weak malva has sentry entry x2
zealous karma
I still don’t know how you got him to hit that hard
onyx ice
Pmun +3, Seun, support ex buff, rock zone, -4 def, and power reserves 5
Plus cs2 lucky skill
And no strength
3/5 SC Jasmine is pretty busted for on type rush clears
proud axle
You're Gonna Need A Helmet! 
onyx ice
He took like 7k recoil
rigid flint
Yeesh
onyx ice
But he was at 1hp so didn't mattered
He needs a sturdier helmet to survive the headsmash
zealous karma
So what your saying is when he gets a pb later down the line, he’ll need recoil removal 4 and furious brain
onyx ice
He would have survived from full HP if he had all the standfast nodes
Probably he would have took like 800 recoil
With 7 + 5 like 1000 recoil
Should have still barely survived from full health
zealous karma
I take the standfast 3 cause I have nothing else to do with the energy lel
long thicket
I might have to offtype Wikstrom again, or wait for Hop.
proud axle
<@735704666897252403> Here, I won it with this, 2k
Turn 1: Ready Fight, In This Together, Jaw Lock (Right)
Turn 2: Ready Fight, In This Together, Jaw Lock (Center)
Turn 3: Brutal Swing, Jaw Lock (Left), Waterfall or X Speed All
Turn 4: Hilbert EX Sync, Jaw Lock (Left), Darkest Lariat (Left). KO Denial. Brutal Swing, Jaw Lock (center), Waterfall (center).
Turn 5: Jaw Lock (right), Darkest Lariat (right). KO denial. Jaw Lock (center), Darkest Lariat (center).
Turn 6: Masked Royal sync (center).
onyx ice
The only type i struggle a little bit is ice
zealous karma
Drasna was tough even with HoliLeon
onyx ice
For drasna i used the candices
zealous karma
I tried using both for 3K (both 3/5+ Ex) and I couldn’t do it lel
zealous karma
I would’ve needed perfect freeze rng and calling it after with a flinch and wasn’t in the mood for that lel
onyx ice
However since they are 3* and 4* i have them 5/5
I didn't even took super preparation 4
I didn't even used the trainer move so it would have been pointless
onyx ice
The strat was abomasnow nuke on the mid and blizzard for the sides
Would have had much easier time with 6ex
I think it may be a good ex, since I'm a bit lacking on the ice department
Hala is great, but atrocious for gauge management
But he kinda works with kukui
nocturne pawn
giovanni should eviscerate her
marsh crater
I dunno if want put lucian or bianca in third slot
marsh crater
Can i use sabrina as support? Sabrina giovanni bianca
marsh crater
Shoot i need to use sycamore. Poison is headache
tired sleet
lucian only helps with sync nuke bianca increases sync and dps
Gio has brainteaser too, not to mention how spdef drops are just strong to begin with
zealous karma
Either of them are good for Gio
nocturne pawn
i mean brain teaser is only 30%
not as good as psychic terrain
and bianca also has oar on psychic iirc
keen jasper
and bianca also has oar on psychic iirc
50% chance, but will be guaranteed on the R3 parameter
zealous karma
and bianca also has oar on psychic iirc
It’s only a 50%
If you’re using bianca you’re using her for SP and terrain never click psychic lel
tired sleet
i mean brain teaser is only 30%
Brainteaser is a 30% and the SpDef debuffs are also another buff
keen jasper
How much of a damage increase is -6 Sp. Def. with Enlightenment 5?
tired sleet
#916852044692856834 message
keen jasper
So 60% overall damage increase with Brainteaser + Sp. Def. debuffs
nocturne pawn
ok so it barely ends up being better
but lucian is also more effort
have to growl 6 times if you get unlucky with shadow ball/psychic
tired sleet
ok so it barely ends up being better
Not exactly, since they’d kinda multiple onto themselves
nocturne pawn
wouldnt that make it worse than 60% then or am i misinterpreting it
tired sleet
Gio’s nuke is also pretty much a guaranteed side denial since sides have no resistance
nocturne pawn
its 30% extra move damage on top of receiving 30% more right
tired sleet
wouldnt that make it worse than 60% then or am i misinterpreting it
The 2 different sources
1.3x1.3 is 1.69 (not how math works here tho)
nocturne pawn
im still inclined to use bianca for ease of use
but someone already said either one is good regardless so
this is just discussion for the sake of it
tired sleet
Is their gio exed?
nocturne pawn
they didnt specify
tired sleet
I dunno if want put lucian or bianca in third slot
Sorry for ping, but is he?
tired sleet
I’d say the incentive to use bianca is so you can save lucian for another clear
zealous karma
Oh I was in the wrong server
tired sleet
Lemme host
Odinson in the shadows squinted at this without saying anything 
paper summit
I knew what was up
zealous karma
I am playing 🦑 with friends no wonde they didn’t respond
paper summit
lmao
tired sleet
I am playing 🦑 with friends no wonde they didn’t respond
Squid game?
paper summit
I kinda took a break these days from that, waiting for Big Run 
clearly this is super CS related
zealous karma
lel
zealous karma
I kinda took a break these days from that, waiting for Big Run <:WEEZing:7320443...
This weekend !
marsh crater
Gio’s nuke is also pretty much a guaranteed side denial since sides have no resi...
The thing is my mewtwo dont have ex.
zealous karma
That’s okay he doesn’t need it to clear on type
marsh crater
Waiting for giovanni event to come again. To ex my mewtwo
swift swan
well lucky you, Kanto VA is rerunning soon
paper summit
nah, it's Hoenn and Kanto
zealous karma
Oh they’re rerunning two in one month??
paper summit
yes, Kanto first, then Hoenn by the end of March
zealous karma
Oh wow!
keen jasper
I thought that was silver
Silver was back in December
keen jasper
Oh they’re rerunning two in one month??
Giovanni rerun is most likely for the Bea EB
zealous karma
Double ping fancy
keen jasper
Sorry
white gale
Unova CS is next - that's an easy one right?
paper summit
yes
zealous karma
I’d say jt goes
keen jasper
Unova CS is next - that's an easy one right?
Definitely
zealous karma
Hoenn>Kalos>Sinnoh>Alola>Johto>Unova>Kanto in terms of easy
tired sleet
I remember thinking that alola was hard after the 1st 3
paper summit
you think Johto is harder than Unova, interesting
zealous karma
Johto has koga and a couple of the Will fights hate fun as they have impervious
Same with Bruno I think
He has surprisingly high hp iirc
keen jasper
Johto has koga and a couple of the Will fights hate fun as they have impervious
Koga with crit shield before his sync
swift swan
Koga and Will has some annoying stages, Karen has evasion hacks, but that's about it
paper summit
you only hate it because no debuffing techs
keen jasper
Bruno has impervious!
Don't you mean Will?
white gale
impervious is definitely not fun. ruins all the debuffers we have
zealous karma
you only hate it because no debuffing techs
I love debuffs 🐴
keen jasper
Both Bruno and Will?
zealous karma
Ye
paper summit
you are in the wrong region tho
Bruno doesn't have Impervious in Johto
his flying weak is from Kanto
zealous karma
O
Well bruno is consistently free and the other 3 can be annoying at tomes
Especially Karen when you don’t have Olivia because of prohaste two hating Spd debuffers
manic mica
wow presync malva got fucked by obstruct replenishing over and over
trail smelt
Suffering from success
old orchid
#1009557516369281075 for Allister EBE
grim bison
Wait wrong channel oops
onyx ice
Well bruno is consistently free and the other 3 can be annoying at tomes
Like it was in RBY
manic kiln
trail smelt
Aye
swift swan
Wonder what that is
I already got my hopes up when we learned about neo champion stadium, only to find out it's easy af
swift swan
Opponents with a specific weakness type? Cool, give me 5 battles that are electric weak as I watch others spread their rats thin
full mesa
Opponents with _a_ specific weakness type? Cool, give me 5 battles that are elec...
Not enough rats.
formal musk
haha imagine 5 fairies
sand karma
New cs event lesgo
formal musk
i wonder if that will run every month like legendary gauntlet
tired sleet
I'll off type all 10 of those.
Koga, Roxie, Lucy, Looker, Plumeria 
frosty axle
Koga, Roxie, Lucy, Looker, Plumeria <:EthanGenius:609191324515827732>
You forgot Ariados sync nuke
trail smelt
Please don’t be all fairy weak
frosty axle
Please don’t be all fairy weak
or Ground would be annoying
proud axle
How many Ground attackers do I have...? I think I'd be forced to use Hapu 
old orchid
you dont have Naomi?
full mesa
Koga, Roxie, Lucy, Looker, Plumeria <:EthanGenius:609191324515827732>
I don't have Looker
proud axle
you dont have Naomi?
The problem is a hypothetical case of five Ground-weak fights with non-overlapping parties
So that's Maxie, Cynthia, Zerena, Naomi, and...
uhhhh, Leon???
proud axle
Maybe on the same team as Naomi, to bolster that team's offense
old orchid
Naomi really wants sand, hope you bring Ingo or Bertha with them
swift swan
5 ground teams and 5 poison teams <:PrycePain:971377771987206154>
more like 5 stall teams 
proud axle
Maybe if I regrid Cynthia for Dust Kicker so she can provide her own...
proud axle
more like 5 stall teams <:JasmineRelax:711402471297122304>
Now I wonder if it's possible to stall them if they have Lessen Poison 10
proud axle
Does this count as Koga slander
old orchid
~~Does this count as Koga slander~~
his dps is alright, not crazy high like the two above
his nuke is insane tho
grand trout
yeah we dont have many poison types with beeg dmg
How about looker
swift swan
slander poison stall all you want, just have patience smh 
mellow linden
Roxie has good damage
formal musk
or just off type them all
rat 1, rat 2, frog 1, and uhh two fire birds and lastly uhh poison stall
swift swan
how many fire birds do we even have
formal musk
i meant 2 ho ohs but i realized theres probably other fire birds
swift swan
Oh
Yeah I thought you meant fire bird as in moltres but I forgot the one playable right now isn't a fire type
proud axle
i meant 2 ho ohs but i realized theres probably other fire birds
Malva when
swift swan
Kalos love is over, Malva and Drasna found dead in NPC jail
Unless they make a solo event and drop Malva and Drasna spotlights during a dead month
proud axle
Malva's ace is... Talonflame, and Drasna's is Noivern, huh...
grand trout
If Aaron's ace in the MGS is drapion, they can certainly bend rules
latent eagle
Oh thank GOD for champion marine, finally beat malva in MM
manic kiln
she deletes everything so
latent eagle
<:CourtneyBruh:600788593622908933> she deletes everything so
Okay and? I finally beat something I was struggling with
proud axle
...I gave a whole plan and even demonstrated it
polar dome
champion marine?
mellow linden
Well, what’s done is done
latent eagle
...I gave a whole plan and even demonstrated it
And I told you it wasn't working and all you did was show screenshots
proud axle
Turn 1: Ready Fight, In This Together, Jaw Lock (Right)
Turn 2: Ready Fight, In ...
What the fuck are you talking about?
mellow linden
I can’t say I’d have recommended going for Marnie if it was specifically for clearing the stage, but if it was for general favoritism purposes it’s fine
manic kiln
Okay and? I finally beat something I was struggling with
nothing wrong with it
latent eagle
What the fuck are you talking about?
I never saw that I guess from the flood of messages
manic kiln
that's what pair like her are for, braindead clear in case people can't copy a specific strategy. just like the rats, choose 1-2 buttons and win 
proud axle
She has 500+ SpA and a passive that increases it by another 40%, for 700ish
It's absolutely ridiculous
Marnie can probably offtype clear things easily with that much raw force
mellow linden
What team?
marsh crater
Bianca giovanni sabrina
mellow linden
Are you using Sabrina’s Trainer Move to buff Giovanni’s Sp. Atk.?
marsh crater
Ok maybe im gonna offtype with ss lysandre maypert
marsh crater
Are you using Sabrina’s Trainer Move to buff Giovanni’s Sp. Atk.?
Yeah
But since my giovani non boosted non ex kinda hard
mellow linden
He shouldn’t need those
marsh crater
Trying 1k also hard
mellow linden
But if you’d prefer to off-type there’s no shame in doing so
marsh crater
Yea gonna try off type. Blast with my steam eruption
Dragalge shall burn scaled drown
compact yoke
So like muddy water is destroying me every time in the grass champion stage
How do I avoid that
nocturne pawn
just have to shore up your defenses and manage the accuracy drops
proud axle
Is it the damage or the acc drop or both?
nocturne pawn
probably damage
compact yoke
Kills my guys so easily
nocturne pawn
it does hurt quite a lot coming off of siebold especially
compact yoke
They just spam it
proud axle
SpDef up and Light Screen, then...
nocturne pawn
because he has a bunch of move multipliers
proud axle
Do you happen to have Lyra/Meganium?
proud axle
She has Light Screen and I think you can grid it to add SpDef up to it?
proud axle
Her celebi and leafeon maybe ?
Maybe
compact yoke
Cuz celebi can easily take out the main before they sync
proud axle
I'm a bit worried about the Acc drops but you can try this first
void wyvern
What team are you running for grass weak and is this hard or Master mode?
compact yoke
2k master mode yeah
And I was running xerneas celebi and leafeon
Thought tank wouldn’t matter tooo much cuz I was doing such high damage
void wyvern
What is your leafon at?
compact yoke
Leafeon is 3/5
void wyvern
And Lyra?
proud axle
Lyra helps both Celebi and Leafeon set up sooner with her amazing buffset
void wyvern
Ah, thank you for providing both.
compact yoke
Oh wait
Lyra is celebi too Lmaoo
Like celebi did 22k on sync which almost took the main out, then I just died RIGHT before sync
proud axle
Oof
void wyvern
Why don’t you give Lyra, Celebi, and Leafon a try and I’ll try and some strategies out?
compact yoke
So hopefully Lyra can help with damage mitigation
Sound goood
I’ll fix up their grids, anything specific?
proud axle
I'm interested too; I haven't done my run this week yet
compact yoke
Or just copy the ones provided in sync grid pin
proud axle
Well, Lyra Meganium probably doesn't need Dire Hit Crit Squad; you can just have Lyra Celebi use Dire Plus All
nocturne pawn
just say ss
compact yoke
Gotcha
nocturne pawn
💀
proud axle
Only 50%, huh... That is not as good as I thought.
compact yoke
I guess I just gotta get lucky
proud axle
+1 rank is a pretty big difference, at least
compact yoke
Imma pack a bowl then give this stage a try
Leafeon will just be used for solar beam damage right
proud axle
If your Meganium is EX, I'd give her the first sync with Solarize
compact yoke
Alright so I can’t do much with the sync grids cuz I’m broke one sec
She isn’t EX either
manic kiln
No ex is tough tho
proud axle
Hm... then maybe we're better off with SSErika handling sun? Meganium could drop the Solarize for Lightscreen MPR
manic kiln
Is this round 1
manic kiln
Its useful for gauntlet 
compact yoke
This is round 2
nocturne pawn
Its useful for gauntlet <:CynthiaSmug:601614489783238669>
well she has solarize so yeah thats true
proud axle
why does she have charging sun 💀
~~She also has Solar Flare 5 
~~
void wyvern
Round 2 might actually be making this harder. As we have entirely physical attackers and they’re special.
manic kiln
Ok round 2 is tough enemy will hit very hard
void wyvern
Could we try a different round and come back to this one?
prime warren
DPS support always real
Look at ramming spd innate inertia Skyla
Peak flying dps right there
Ssethan who
compact yoke
Ahhh yeah I can come back at a later time to grass
I’ll fuck up fighting
Try not to use aura cunthia for that
void wyvern
Do you have good options for fighting?
compact yoke
Cynthia*
nocturne pawn
fighting is also pretty awful tbh
proud axle
Oh. Round 2 parameter is why they're taking you out so fast, huh
compact yoke
Yeah I got cynthia aura, diantha, and solgeo
compact yoke
But I don’t wanna use Cynthia aura for fighting, so I’ll see what I got
proud axle
Oh gods, and Leafeon and Celebi use primarily phys moves
void wyvern
Do you intend to use aura Cynthia somewhere else?
proud axle
That Round2 modifier is not your friend for that team 
compact yoke
Lmao yeah no wonder I was getting shat on. Well I normally save her for if there is a really hard stage I can’t get passed
But idk stages don’t seem tooo hard
Besides the grass kicking me with the modifier
void wyvern
Aura Cynthia’s best use is here. The other stages will have solutions.
compact yoke
Like for psychic I’m def chillen, have deoxys.
Alright so use Cynthia aura for fighting then
void wyvern
Do you have a good striker?
nocturne pawn
use aura cynthia for grass tbh
compact yoke
I would use solgeo
nocturne pawn
she helps with defense a ton
compact yoke
For ground I have SS gio
prime warren
You can try piercing gaze or accuracy buffers in siebold stage
proud axle
This time their Siebold problems arose from trying that fight with a phys team in round 2, they'll probably be fine on another round
nocturne pawn
is already prone to misses
compact yoke
Alright and who has piercing gaze? SS gio?
prime warren
I never said grass is weak
compact yoke
Whoever was speaking to me about aura Cynthia, so u reccomend I use her for grass
compact yoke
I could prob kill the main with celebi using an aura sphere before
Grass week* that’s probably the problem lmao
Ik what u were sayin tho
nocturne pawn
<:PrycePain:971377771987206154>
i mean the issue here is that brendan is already blind as shit and acc drops dont help
proud axle
Maybe we should back up and doublecheck which fight they're actually doing next
Because it's not Grass anymore
prime warren
Well if you have smth like faitlin, you can use her to buff accuracy
void wyvern
We have a lot of suggestions flying around but we should all take a deep breath. Focus on one thing at a time.
proud axle
Ye
I think we're actually going for a fight other than Siebold right now, so the Siebold suggestions should sit tight for a bit
void wyvern
Grass weak on boost special damage bad. Clearing psychic with deoxys or fighting with aura Cynthia is a good move.
Deoxys will wipe drasna off the map imo.
prime warren
What fighting dps are you planning to run?
void wyvern
Sc diantha I believe.
prime warren
Good I used scdiantha
prime warren
Just bought Skyla and evelyn for that
nocturne pawn
because sonia refuses to come home for the last copy and arghfhso
prime warren
First scdiantha kills left side with sync, then turn skip again on right side with secret swords and mid died to 2nd sync
Don't have to use aura Cyn for that then
compact yoke
Yeah sc diantha for fighting
And solgeo
Yeah deoxys should wipe out psychic stage easy
I was just messing around doing aura sphere before Celebi sync, not shabby
void wyvern
Always to good to try new stuff and see it feels . Why it works and why It doesn’t.
onyx ice
bea vs wikstrom is pain
Roark vs wilkstrom is gain
compact yoke
I actually went and fucked grass up
Aura sphere helped for the extra damage
So it’s 3rd round prob fighting
Unless modifiers make fighting easier 4th round
onyx ice
Wilkstrom is special
nocturne pawn
r4 makes wikstrom easier
flash cannon and tbolt will hurt a lot
especially due to metallic power 3
compact yoke
Aight I’ll save it for round 4 then
frigid iron
@spring axle Could you show your sync pairs
spring axle
frigid iron
Okay, first of all, do Legendary Adventures
spring axle
Those are all my 5*
frigid iron
And get Sycamore EX ASAP
frigid iron
Its free, extremely valuable and going away in a free fays
Days
I dont see it in your collection
spring axle
It’s not showing for some reason
frigid iron
Hm
You are still missing the other Legendary units
Ghetsis and Hop are extremely valuable
Especially Hop
void wyvern
I don’t think we’re seeing the full roster considering how it cuts off at LYSS and Marnie
frigid iron
So get him at the very least, though its suggested to get all of them
spring axle
I’ll get started on them now
spring axle
I don’t think we’re seeing the full roster considering how it cuts off at LYSS a...
Only Rosa and SS Blue under
frigid iron
Whats Blue's move level
Also you said you have beaten Siebold. What did you use for that
spring axle
Also you said you have beaten Siebold. What did you use for that
I didn’t it would stop me from using them again but SS Lysandre and Blue, and Sycamore
spring axle
Still 1/5
spring axle
Is there no way to reset it?
proud axle
Yes but you need to have already won
frigid iron
Nope, not until you beat it with the medal
proud axle
Can't reset until you unlock Master Mode
spring axle
Ah
mellow linden
Is this your 1st time beating Champion Stadium?
proud axle
So you have to go on without them, or not go on at all
mellow linden
Because if so then no resetting
spring axle
Yep
proud axle
Not having SSBlue or Sycamore for the other teams... that's gonna hurt
spring axle
I only started like 3 or 4 days ago
frigid iron
Lets see what you can utilise
proud axle
Might be a bit early to try Hard Champion Stadium in general, then, but we can see if we can take out another fight or two just for loot
Next week's Champion Stadium will be much easier
mellow linden
Cyrus + Winona + Roxanne can probably beat one stage
proud axle
(Kalos league is a little crazy; Unova league is tame in comparison)
compact yoke
Sorry if this was said, what support should I use with SC diantha and solgeo
proud axle
Solga needs crit and gauge support... Is SSBlue still available?
proud axle
Cool, let's see
compact yoke
I don’t have many EX’d so it’s a lil limited ngl
proud axle
Kiawe is already on the team and might be a good choice for this
compact yoke
Yeah he wasn’t shabby just died a lil early so I wasn’t sure if he was get
I’ll do more runs to see what’s not working or is
proud axle
I think you can pull it off, yeah
compact yoke
I just need to increase gauge acceleration with diantha probably
proud axle
Quick Tempo blocks quadqueue but Wikstrom also has Quick Tempo so your quadqueue is screwed anyway
compact yoke
Got hard spamming solgeos move
Good to know
Lol solgeo got 1 tapped by earthquake
Should I put a certain lucky skill on him
First time he was 1 tapped by it but still
formal vigil
Probably for focus blast
nocturne pawn
Quick Tempo blocks quadqueue but _Wikstrom_ also has Quick Tempo so your quadque...
he has zone on entry which when it expires also stops quad queues
nocturne pawn
unless im misremembering
compact yoke
Yeah two things going wrong for me, I have wrong parameter on so I can’t debuff, and solgeo is getting 1 tapped
Ahh maybe I don’t even use solgeo?
frigid iron
Sure
compact yoke
Think they are the basic presync 2k listed
compact yoke
frigid iron
Dont take multiple strengths with strength 6
They are multiplicative so they make them especially bulky
compact yoke
How imma be after beating CC week again
Alright I didn’t know that thank you
I’ve only ever always done those parameters ngl
I’m not good at changing them around
frigid iron
It works but it might be harder, Im not sure without testing myself thougg
Take Atk up parameters and drop strength 6
compact yoke
Definitely harder, what do u normally use as the 600pt instead?
frigid iron
You are doing presync right?
frigid iron
So take all atk parameters, strength2 and strength3
nocturne pawn
It works but it might be harder, Im not sure without testing myself thougg
wait you’re not supposed to stack strength? i thought atk up makes it worse since ur more liable to get one tapped
frigid iron
I think it makes them bulkier
If u stack strength
Depends on team
If your tank is sturdy, it can take on the attacks
Otherwise better to play it slow and safe
compact yoke
Yeah like I had no problem with the bulkiness for other stages, normally when I don’t have a crazy DPS the bulkiness is mad hard
frigid iron
Its worse on stages that huge base hp
compact yoke
Like now with Champ Marnie, dark stage was a joke
frigid iron
With diantha, use kiawe and a defense buffer
compact yoke
Alright cool I’ll try it all out
frigid iron
So you can save Skyla for other stages
frigid iron
What other stages are left?
compact yoke
So I kinda screwed my self but like she ain’t bad
Just fighting
On last one
Before ground of course
frigid iron
Yeah then thats easy sweep
frigid iron
Skyla can be used here
Skyla, diantha, Kiawe should be perfect
Skyla first target, max out diantha's defense. It will increase her nuke
First sync with Skyla or Kiawe, then with Diantha
compact yoke
Alright and definitelyyyy take the no debuff parameter off right
frigid iron
Are you able to do 2 sync moves before their first?
frigid iron
Alright and definitelyyyy take the no debuff parameter off right
It wont matter a lot tbh
compact yoke
Uhh idk
I’ll have to try
Cuz diantha I would spam her 1 gauge to fuck their stats up
But with that parameter the move is bum
compact yoke
Spam her 4 gauge?
frigid iron
Yes
compact yoke
And at the side or main
frigid iron
Depends on how good the 1/5 nuke is
compact yoke
I’ll experiment with it right now
frigid iron
Maybe get center to half hp, then focus sidee
So you can end center with nuke
I dont remember if Wikstorm prevents quad queue
So that will be an issue if he prevents that
compact yoke
Alright that did not go to wel Lmaoo
I prob didn’t do things great
, kiawe died mad early, like before my first sync, an
frigid iron
Swap kiawe for Sycamore
And get adrenaline in Sycamore grid
He will remove quadqueue issue
As for the aoes, prioritise skyla tm in turns to buff defenses asap
Syacmore first target should be better unless they decide to use flash cannon and iron head
So see whos tanking better
compact yoke
Oh shit
Wait I’m sorry
I’m so baked I didn’t even use Skyla
That’s my bad
I still read what u said and will take it into consideration
Just gotta actually use Skyla first to se did I still fail
frigid iron
Yeah the defense buffs are needed
Skyla + sycamore + diantha should clear it for sure
Sync with sycamore
And make sure to pick adrenaline in grid
Pick Potion stuff in skyla grid for the heals so you can spam it when needed
Thats all, good luck
void wyvern
Nice job!
frigid iron
Thank you thank you
Great job
onyx ice
One shotting wilkstrom with Korinna is nice
undone brook
Does Mallow or SS Erika have a stronger synx nuke if set up?
prime warren
Erika is easier to set up and higher dps
Mallow setup is bad
She spends time spamming trop kick unless you bring atk debuffers
undone brook
Noted, was thinking of bringing Erika for DPS and Mallow for nuke so I wasn't sure how that would go
sand karma
Erika sun erika dps erika nuke 
proud axle
Bring another sun enjoyer along for the ride
Silver or Maxie for solar beam, for example
compact yoke
Wait so if I reset I don’t get my points, but I still get rewards right
So resetting doesn’t matter
proud axle
Point milestone rewards are earned immediately
So if you reset halfway in, you still have half the rewards
onyx ice
However i tried 1/5 diantha with 6ex 3/5 ss brendan and 1/5 SS wally, with -2 sync against wilkstrom, with support ex I won, with diantha mega I lost, so isn't always worth diantha mega over support ex
I think the problem was that the battle was short and with 6ex support i can land 3 moonblast while if i sync with diantha i can only land 2 (unless i quad queue)
So i think the mega is worth only if i can quad queue
undone brook
Silver or Maxie for solar beam, for example
was thinking about doing this then realized silver's water weak
prime warren
However i tried 1/5 diantha with 6ex 3/5 ss brendan and 1/5 SS wally, with -2 sy...
From what I see in YT for 3k runs, people often tend to sync with ampharos/latios and then sync with Wally in that comp
And completely skip on diantha sync
Think they just prefer the dmg on his Bmove and the single target tech nuke 
No Wally for me so I'll never know
onyx ice
Ok with quad queue I can mega diantha
The damage of mega Gardevoir is similar to regular with 6ex buff
The only difference is that wally damage will be lower
proud axle
was thinking about doing this then realized silver's water weak
Ooooof, good point
Gardenia or Brendan with Charging Sun, maybe
onyx ice
BP sycamore has impervious
Not sure about the damage output however
But has spdef buffs
void wyvern
Gardenia and Brendan with Sun should clear. But it may take some tries with accuracy down
onyx ice
I used SS Erika with Jasmine and og lyra
void wyvern
Gardenia sunny disp coming in clutch.
proud axle
And even if you don't grid for Sunny Disposition, you can just let her get an Acc debuff and use her TM to invert it to an acc buff
And then they have to land two more debuffs if they want her in the negatives again
Nature finds a way
onyx ice
Was more for sun, because clang expiring wasn't an issue
proud axle
Maybe I'll try something similar myself. Leafeon, Eevee, Celebi
undone brook
Ooooof, good point <:CyrusSweat:612793698798927899>
update: didn't matter, rng and light screen came in clutch :)
manic kiln
This worked like a charm
same but og erika instead of steelix 
and she's the tank
onyx ice
Just wanted clang to remove the rng
bright scarab
Any updates on which region the next CS will be? Or where that would normally be posted?
paper summit
pins
proud axle
The following month's CS is in each end-of-month update datamine; the update was a few days ago, so yeah
Unova will be a welcome break. Kalos is kind of intense.
frosty axle
Unova will be a welcome break. Kalos is kind of intense.
first week MM was, but after that I found it easier
still not sure which is worse between Hoenn, Sinnoh, and Kalos
proud axle
I'd lean Sinnoh, due to the greater prevalence of Sentry/Wise x2
formal vigil
I personally hate hoenn the most
proud axle
Sentry/Wise x2 can remove a lot of offtype options from play
formal vigil
i personally just find the zone terrian effects alot of hoenn stages have a bit more annoying especially when i was doing hoenn cs when it first came out
that and lots of them tend to hit quite hard
proud axle
Which ones were those? I can only find two in Hoenn (Bug Sidney and Dark Phoebe)
Like, any of Sidney's three versions could've had Dark Zone, as all three of his weakpoints have units that can produce zones to overwrite it (Flying, Bug, Fairy). But only Bug Sidney actually uses Dark Zone
Steven, the Steel-type, doesn't use Steel Zone in the one version of the fight weak against a zone-having type (Ground, via Courney)
Drake's only fight against a zone-able type is Rock, and Rock zone didn't exist until much later
Water and Ice zones do not exist for Glacia and Wallace
stray sentinel
Is there a parameters pin for this CS? Cant seem to find it
formal vigil
theres also grass week steven with physic terrian then also decent amount of weather based ones like grass wallace ice weak drake fire week glacia dragon weak drake sure alot of them can be countered but i don't have the counter for most of the zone ones and some of the weather ones just were kinda pain to me when hoenn first came out
proud axle
You said zone. Terrain and weather are way more common than zone
Terrain (and zone) can even be Defogged away. I did it against Poison Diantha last week
The biggest difference is that Zone always comes from an item, so it can't be flinched; Terrain can
...Also if you take Steven out after Psy Terrain but before his sync (pretty common if you quadqueue to win with a second-sync nuke), it does barely anything to help his sidekicks, as they stop using Psychic moves
Their "the boss is down" spam move is Rockslide, according to Pomatools. That's not Psychic
You can just straightup ignore the psy terrain if you presync