I meant ST
#Champion Stadium
zealous karma
Oh
prime warren
Also quite sure SSThimself is a big nuke
Coz SS3, kekwalk and haymaker
zealous karma
If fighting rebuff existed I imagine SCDiantha can reach triple digit maybe, but as for a striker I’ve never seen it
prime warren
Too lazy to test it tho
keen jasper
If fighting rebuff existed I imagine SCDiantha can reach triple digit maybe, but...
You mean 6 digits?
prime warren
Strikers peak at ash for me
zealous karma
Ye
prime warren
And ash doesn't even go 40k 2nd sync offtype
And that's with me holding back so hard by running volkner and just not pressing buttons
Coz if I run proper comp
And play it right
Shit dies in first sync
zealous karma
Time for electric rebuff ash sstred
prime warren
Electric rebuff support with terrain on entry and electric team work
zealous karma
Aka Sshilbert but that’s only on type
swift swan
Yellow and Pikachu as the kanto support MF 
They ruined my kanto trio MF dream, might as well make a full pikachu set of kanto MFs now 
paper summit
stop abusing that copium so hard
swift swan
Feeling chaotic atm 
paper summit
They ruined my kanto trio MF dream, might as well make a full pikachu set of kan...
they had to go and make the eternal 10 year old a master pair, smh
swift swan
It's fine if he stays in no-rerun jail eternally tho
paper summit
considering the anime is finally kicking him out, I don't think he'll come back
just like Jesse and James have never returned 
his events were a tie-in to the 8 champions thing after all
paper summit
imagine a master pair select at all 
keen silo
~~imagine they adding Ash to a free select~~
I'll get reincarnated before that happens probably
eternal lodge
I like the types coming next week
void wyvern
I don’t think having SS diantha and SC diantha together is helpful. I’d probably change her out for Roxanne who covers the stats on Diantha’s grid.
Also for Drasna that team is incredibly gauge heavy with no support. It may struggle. You might want someone like Skyla or SS Elesa for the crit and sync accel to really take advantage of Lusa.
keen silo
^(replace anni lillie with sync pairs mentioned above for Drasna)
eternal lodge
I don’t think having SS diantha and SC diantha together is helpful. I’d probably...
?
ss diantha lowers all enemys defense while increasing the team's stat allowing me for a faster setup as far as im aware, while drasna team nukes on first sync without any gauge problem
swift swan
If it works for you, sure
keen silo
Anni lillie is just a hindrance for drasna team , especially since its psychic weakness
swift swan
That drasna team does look extremely gauge hungry though
keen silo
Probably just me but I can't see it at all
eternal lodge
i dont see the gauge problem, its tm into tm into tm into psychic terrain into sync nuke
void wyvern
Well, having Anni Lillie doesn’t help the sync Nuke as master passives don’t affect sync.
keen silo
Wikstrom team is somewhat understandable
eternal lodge
the way that team works is musharna is there just for the terrain, lusa because i wanna use her and lillie to increase lusamine's dmg (not sure if it increases it more than latios or girafarig before first sync)
eternal lodge
Well, having Anni Lillie doesn’t help the sync Nuke as master passives don’t aff...
didnt know that, guess ill go for one of the last i mentioned then
keen silo
I don’t think having SS diantha and SC diantha together is helpful. I’d probably...
SS diantha probably mainly there to negate steel zone as well
eternal lodge
yeah, thats the second reason im using her
swift swan
Makes sense
void wyvern
That’s a pretty good use and if it works well and helps that’s what counts.
eternal lodge
May I do it
keen silo
Powerpuff girls Diantha Edition
eternal lodge
yes
keen silo
In reality, would only work for hard mode
eternal lodge
wdym, sc diantha carries with max setup
keen jasper
May I do it
"Tri"antha
keen silo
Who tankin
eternal lodge
literally diantha
grand pond
where my tanks at 😭
frosty axle
anyone struggling here is my F2P video link again #1072581173546586194 message
marsh crater
anyone struggling here is my F2P video link again https://discord.com/channels/5...
Mismagius and persian there for flinch?
This game literally wants me to build every sync pair there is
marsh crater
Oh i see
frosty axle
its just easier since he does special attack and attack in one too
marsh crater
Still cant clear siebold even at 1.5k
I thought of off typing malva and wisktrom
Malva gonna use frog pair.
frosty axle
Siebold is quite bulky with high health
onyx ice
Headsmash, he doesn't have a grid yet so the sync wouldn't have been that great
keen silo
Ah nice
onyx ice
Even with the grid he wouldn't have reached those numbers with 1st sync, qnd headsmash would have done even more damage
onyx ice
I thought of off typing malva and wisktrom
Isn't wisktrom fire weak?
Isn't silver enough to destroy him?
keen silo
I used ss hilda sonia silver
drifting sleet
Round 2 drasna - hleon or ghetsis?
keen silo
Bad sync (too late and sun ended) and it still did 7k dmg at csmm2k
onyx ice
My sync was just for the sides
Drasna and malva are the most annoying
To on type i need to use holiday Jasmine
At least with my parameters
Maybe i could try if i can on type malva with just champion calem as the support
keen silo
Drasna was annoying only because I didn't sync grid Candice properly
So she was doing 7k 2nd sync instead of 26k 💀
Jasmine for me was just figuring out who to turn deny so i could quadqueue
marsh crater
Wait can i use gladion? Just got him using the free ticket
swift swan
Wants his nuke at 3/5 and even then, his stats are pretty terrible
onyx ice
And his nuke isn't even that great
Passable if 6ex
One of the only 2 techs that don't have an innate multiplier on sync
The other being mew
trail smelt
Yeah he’s just meant to be temporary plug for the hole in your types haha
onyx ice
He's good for gauntlet, where it can always hit for super effective as long as the stage doesn't change weakness
Plus vigilance on grid helps with gauntlet crit spam
His main problem is the abysmal attack stat
And unlike other low attack units it's really hard to fix that with theme skills, since he always has normal theme skill, and even if you pair with normal strike, the theme skill only affects normal attacks
nocturne pawn
One of the only 2 techs that don't have an innate multiplier on sync
three actually. kukui doesnt have a modifier either cuz he gets rid of screens
lunar meadow
Triple Crobat EASY clears 2k on-type
onyx ice
three actually. kukui doesnt have a modifier either cuz he gets rid of screens
Ah yes kukui too, cakewalk is on grid
Managed to on type drasna with -2 sync and without holiday jasmine
trail smelt
Why holiday Jasmine?
onyx ice
Why holiday Jasmine?
Because she's op for on type rush
trail smelt
Oh right SE up
onyx ice
And pmun or smun
nocturne pawn
candice and candice
onyx ice
candice and candice
They patch up their bad offensive stats with plenty of theme skills
onyx ice
Plus abomasnow nukes the center while froslass DPS the sides
Managed to on type malva with Tyrannitar
keen jasper
Managed to on type malva with Tyrannitar
SS Diantha is more than enough
No need for any other DD
onyx ice
SS Diantha is more than enough
Not 1/5
trail smelt
It’s not to surprising since Zone helps even up the odds
keen jasper
It's like cutting SE x2 effectiveness by half
nocturne pawn
yeah zone can just brute force sentry entry x2
onyx ice
Raihan is better than SS Brock so that's unsurprising, but 1/5 raihan is pretty bad for rock dps
onyx ice
I mean i would use it for rock DPS if it wasn't for 95% accuracy on rock slide at 1/5
nocturne pawn
yeah that’s been annoying
onyx ice
Luckily has perfect accuracy for steel beam at 1/5
keen jasper
the only 100% accurate move he has is dragon pulse
Doesn't he have +1 accuracy from his TM?
keen jasper
Yeah, it doesn't 
onyx ice
Has steel beam +10 accuracy on 1/5 grid
onyx ice
But only +5 for rock slide at 1/5
No wait is still +5 for steel beam but base 95
Rockslide is base 90 but needs 2/5 for +10
But 2/5 has pinpoint entry, so sot really worth picking accuracy nodes over pinpoint entry
With SS diantha SS Brock is more than enough for rock DPS
And Roark is getting the grid too
keen silo
Rock is free with diantha
onyx ice
roxanne dps real
Probably still the strongest rock type special dps available to anyone who lacks classic blue
keen silo
I don't even think my olivia sync crit and it killed center with 20k 💀
onyx ice
I mean she's probably the second strongest rock special dps
keen silo
What's classic blue?
onyx ice
Aerodactyl
onyx ice
At least steel is getting a competent f2p steel special DPS
nocturne pawn
solgaleo
keen silo
NOPE
nocturne pawn
but yeah uh special rock literally doesnt exist outside of cblue
onyx ice
I mean the competition for 2nd place is between Roxanne Striker Kabutops and Brycen
onyx ice
When will we get a proper Flash Cannon DPS unit?
Striker Magneton is usable
old orchid
Striker Perrserker
nocturne pawn
I mean the competition for 2nd place is between Roxanne Striker Kabutops and Bry...
striker kabutops seems like such a meme
onyx ice
striker kabutops seems like such a meme
Done some calcs, with 5* 0/20 5/5 and no lucky skill, the results are Brycen > Roxanne > Kabutops
For rock special DPS
However Kabutops requires no weather
drifting sleet
3 ninjas kekw
rotund lagoon
3 ninjas kekw
I think this is better for #1010274591601598555 ^^;;;
onyx ice
3 ninjas kekw
When Emma became a ninja?
proud axle
When Emma became a ninja?
Well, she is a master of disguise. ...Sort of.
rotund lagoon
Well, she _is_ a master of disguise. ...Sort of.
Huh….weird that the first battle has a lot of money for the reward, then the second has much less and the final is even more less.
proud axle
You got her wallet the first time and she's out of cash
... ... ... Oh gods, Looker is also a master of disguise. No wonder he uses a Poison-type; he's a ninja detective! Emma is a fitting apprentice to him.
rotund lagoon
YEAH
old orchid
~~You got her wallet the first time and she's out of cash~~
That was the money she had to hard work to earn 😭
full mesa
Life's savings > pocket money > working adult in today's economy.
swift swan
Fr fr
nocturne pawn
i still find it funny how we beat up a child in an alleyway for money
swift swan
Dream career in the pokemon world
nocturne pawn
truly
full mesa
i still find it funny how we beat up a child in an alleyway for money
But we are a child too.
rotund lagoon
Its still beating someone up for money 
onyx ice
Hall of fame victory screen is buggy if you use alts in the Champion battle
The 3rd one was supposed to be SS Cynthia
Or maybe just doesn't want to showcase twice the same character
paper summit
Yes, that's why
onyx ice
Makes sense
Just realized how annoying is Diantha without SS Giovanni (or Emma)
I mean probably the frogs or Deoxys will still steamroll her, and the rats will definitely do
Maybe it's because I have no poison zone, but ss Giovanni's max ooze still oneshots
lunar meadow
Just realized how annoying is Diantha without SS Giovanni (or Emma)
Probably not too bad.
But you will need to be able to remove her fairy zone somehow
If you can't pre-sync
zealous karma
I just used plumeria and it was pretty easy pre sync
I don’t have firis either and didn’t bother with koga lel
void wyvern
You can pre sync with Roxie and Lucy. Diantha isn’t too much trouble.
lunar meadow
I used to use Salazzle. As long as you bring a crit buffer she was fine. But she prefers someone else to poison
The champion is ALWAYS the easiest fight.
You get two fight modifiers and you can pick one that best helps you
void wyvern
Diantha not having any passives based in her zone doesn’t help either.
lunar meadow
Salazzle/Venusaur and a support with crit were always an easy combo
onyx ice
I mean with my favourite parameters she wasn't much doable without SS Giovanni (on type) unless i pick round 4
lunar meadow
I always do full STR params and plan for second sync.
I have like 41 support EXs 😅
void wyvern
-2 sync seems like a very odd choice.
onyx ice
Strong teams can easily do it with -2
void wyvern
Absolutely, it’s just not very commonplace to use -2. Especially with quad queue and sync accel being accessible these days.
zealous karma
If you run a head start team -1 sync countdown is free
onyx ice
Sometimes i run even -3
onyx ice
Depends how op the team is
void wyvern
run minus 3 on sync cooldowns at half
zealous karma
It only goes to 2
onyx ice
~~run minus 3 on sync cooldowns at half~~
I do that too
rigid flint
Free param
void wyvern
Free points are good.
onyx ice
With headstart 3 generally i run -3 if the team is good enough
void wyvern
Flinch and head start 1 pair really well together as well.
onyx ice
-3 is also for sync nuke runs
The only time i go for second sync is with og clemont
But don't use him much anymore now that the rats are a thing
zinc island
What are the rats?
zealous karma
Ash + Sstred
onyx ice
What are the rats?
Ash and tbolt red
zinc island
Oh i see
Was thinking about raticate but there isn't any pair with it as far as i remember
onyx ice
There's egg Rattata/Raticate
zealous karma
Rat is usually a common nickname for pikachu
zinc island
That's technicaly us though
onyx ice
I guess that my most lacking type now is ice
However Hala is pretty good, but a gauge nightmare
Ice or bug i guess
rigid flint
Lusamine and Burgh tend to do quite well
But Lusamine is extremely frail
Burgh’s got a good sun nuke tho
Not that I’ve used it before but I’ve heard it’s quite good
rotund lagoon
Rat is usually a common nickname for pikachu
rotund lagoon
Wanted to try 6ex absol clear, not bad
Sidney’s power is incredible
Especially after Mega
nocturne pawn
why do techs randomly get potions
nocturne pawn
what makes him different than mr though
just curious
is it easier to set up since he only needs confusion?
nocturne pawn
pretty often
2 units
i can name at least 5 techs that have potions in their kit lmao
proud axle
Okay. Here's seven strikers.
And the most recent one was released four days ago
There are more Strikers than Techs with Potion
sinful garden
Ig they just give them potions when they run out of ideas lmao
proud axle
At least it kinda makes sense for Hilda and Lance, since Hilda has recoil and Lance has TMs that hurt himself
I have no answer for why Barry has Full Heal
trail smelt
what makes him different than mr though
Sidney nukes harder and hits hard post mega iirc
paper summit
They hit similar numbers but Sidney's setup is basically free
tired sleet
what makes him different than mr though
One of them provides team wide speed buffs and def debuffs, the other one provides potion
trail smelt
Huh MR has defense?
tired sleet
Back in the day you’d see a ton of people throw MR onto any physical striker team; you don’t see that with Sidney
tired sleet
Huh MR has defense?
Meant debuffs oof
trail smelt
Ohh right yeah
woeful wave
Not sure if my team gonna work
Each team was to also fulfill the requirements for 18/18
old orchid
I would replace Melony on Drasna team 1 with a speed buffer
Replace Melony with Sycamore, replace Sycamore with an atk/crit buffer for Elesa
Is your Elesa 3/5?
mellow linden
Sycamore can also cleanse statuses
toxic cobalt
And some of those don’t boost crit 
mellow linden
Honestly? Hop + Skyla for Elesa’s Supports and use Sabrina for the Koga/Allister duo
Should work out since it’s just Hard Mode
woeful wave
Hop first, skyla second right
mellow linden
Either can be the 1st target
woeful wave
Ok, current setup after changes
mellow linden
I think you’d be better off using a Support instead of Serena
Since Melony’s been replaced with Sycamore you can use her there
woeful wave
So my filler fighting change?
rotund lagoon
Also what’s Korrina doing on that SS Red team?
woeful wave
Why is Lyra not on the SS Red team and Blaine absent?
Ah, korrina is fill to get fighting badge
Lyra was errr there for the sun
rotund lagoon
Why not a tech like Brawly?
But yeah, definitely do a Support as well instead of Serena.
woeful wave
Lyra in Malva because it perm sunny
So can use it to buff team
Well started sunny, so can buff
That's what I was thinking
woeful wave
keen silo
Its much better to change the weather
Malva has like Charging Sun 5+ all her moves are fire so they also get a 50% power buff on top of it
rotund lagoon
Get a sand setter like Acerola. She fills Ghost.
woeful wave
I kinda need to fill grass
keen silo
Olivia also has sand grids to benefit from a sandstorm if she's 3/5
woeful wave
Olivia sadly is 2/5
rotund lagoon
Olivia also has sand grids to benefit from a sandstorm if she's 3/5
Its Hard Mode, just weather change will be fine.
Oh blech, right
I was gonna say to replace Blue on the Olivia team.
keen silo
O wait
rotund lagoon
Cause idk why tf he’s there
Cause if you’re going to do filler spots, do ones that have synergy
Or just ones that don’t hold the team back
keen silo
Olivia gets sand blaster 5 at 2/5, so if u can get that massive help
woeful wave
Ya I did
rotund lagoon
Instead of Blue?
rotund lagoon
I don’t think I should fret too much since you can’t fill all 18 types in a week
woeful wave
Ok I mean, I doubt going master mode means anything to me. Think it ok to just go for clears as well
rotund lagoon
Let’s see…
keen silo
Eh just unlock master mode for a little bit more resources to obtain
woeful wave
O
rotund lagoon
I’d do it for the rewards
keen silo
Wait fighting
rotund lagoon
Hey @woeful wave Do you have BP Sophocles?
woeful wave
Nope XD
rotund lagoon
honestly I'd say koga
I didn’t say instead of Koga
woeful wave
I can. Just setup then lvl
keen silo
Wait he needs poison oops
woeful wave
rotund lagoon
Brawley will work too lol
That looks like all of them.
But I still insist on Blaine instead of Melony.
keen silo
yeah looks like the remaining 6 are covered
toxic cobalt
I would try to use type fillers in earlier battles
rotund lagoon
Okay I have two more changes and that should be it.
Clay instead of Cynthia and Blaine instead of Melony.
Two strikers are not recommended 99% of the time.
woeful wave
rotund lagoon
Done
woeful wave
Is 120 enough? Hahaha
woeful wave
Ok
rotund lagoon
So get your damage dealers to 120
keen jasper
keen jasper
I guess Silver is the only one who can deal over 100k damage AoE with his sync on-type?
prime warren
Yea but that's ontype
keen jasper
Oh well
prime warren
Ontype means you can even use zygarde, ash and deoxys
keen jasper
Gotta wait for powercreep I suppose
prime warren
And use redlax for seun
keen jasper
Gotta wait for a 5/5 tech unit with Expanded Sync
prime warren
Zygarde already hits like 30k range for me with supp ex
Deoxys expansion
But then still no psychic rebuff
After 2 water rebuffs we still peak at 125k offtype range 
paper summit
that's bad now? weird standards you guys are setting here lol
keen jasper
I didn't say nuthin'
paper summit
not that there is any enemy a 125k sync wouldn't kill, highest HP in CS with full bulk parameters is like 116k
zealous karma
For a 15K that looked so easy wow
prime warren
We never said it's bad
We just doing big pp damage
And hoping striker sync hit 1mn one day
Offtype
onyx ice
what makes him different than mr though
For me the guaranteed crit on sync
Did they changed half heal parameter?
old orchid
yes
onyx ice
Now seems that doesn't affect passives anymore
onyx ice
It was a bug?
winter glen
is it easier to set up since he only needs confusion?
Sidney pops tm and starts attacking
Mr takes 4 turns to self buff and even more turns to setup mults
hot shadow
It was a bug?
It wasn't, they just took their time fixing the feature that wasn't working right way for few years
full mesa
They turned on easy mode permanently.
summer flare
Diantha feels a bit hard to beat
rotund lagoon
Diantha feels a bit hard to beat
What are you using?
rotund lagoon
Oh you were using Emma? •.•
Ok glad you got it~
Was this MM?
onyx ice
I don't have Emma but i doubt diantha would be any difficult with her
nocturne pawn
diantha this week didnt feel very dangerous
next week she’s gonna be rough though
100% accurate head smashes
onyx ice
I used SS Giovanni and she was pretty easy
lunar meadow
Honesty the champion is always the easiest fight imo.
You can use two fight parameters, and pick one that helps you more than them
paper summit
poison stages are usually fairly easy, no matter the region
onyx ice
F2p poison isn't the bestest
paper summit
eh, I used Koga for the longest time before Emma, never had an issue
rotund lagoon
Highlander, weird question, have you thought about using Sonia with Emma?
lunar meadow
F2p poison isn't the bestest
They usually make poison-weak fights only have poison reduction 7, so they can be stalled if necessary
rotund lagoon
Also Koga is great ^^
summer flare
Rounds were
1: Wikstrom - Blaine, silver and Hilbert
2: Malva - Raihan, Emmet and Ingo
3: Drasna - Ghetsis, Alt Iris and BP Janine
4: Siebold - ash, SST red and SS blue
5: Diantha - Koga, Emma and leaf
manic kiln
poison was fine even before iris, emma, giovanni...
summer flare
I didn't have BP Janine available
rotund lagoon
Testing with Koga is tons of fun tbh
summer flare
So finding a fitting support was strange
rotund lagoon
I didn't have BP Janine available
You have Sonia at least?
rotund lagoon
With Emma?
paper summit
people saying poison is lacking, only meant they didn't have an OP pair, Emma and Iris changed that, but it doesn't mean the existing units don't get the job done just fine
lunar meadow
So finding a fitting support was strange
Any support that gives +2 attack is all that's necessary, but one that also gives +2 speed maxes out Emmabat
summer flare
Yeah, I tried doing that
lunar meadow
Because Emma always crits, she does actually do fine with 1/5 Yamper. Don't need the 3/5 boost
summer flare
Likely wasn't using the right parameters
If they work for that stage, it has to be it
rotund lagoon
I’ll make a clear for you when I get to MM. Doing Hard Mode so I have reset leverage.
summer flare
Overall I couldn't cut through Gardevoir's health bar in time
lunar meadow
Because Sonia is one of the best F2P Supports (imo)
I'd argue Yamper is the top support that doesn't relate to weather
rotund lagoon
Also you do not have SS Leaf, correct?
rotund lagoon
K sounds good, I shall use Koga in SS Leaf’s place.
summer flare
Her adrenaline + flinch allowed me to do an ex boosted sync with emma
rotund lagoon
SS Leaf is a tech btw, she does easier poisons for me
lunar meadow
Venusaur causing poison is insanely good for Emmabat
summer flare
Yeah
rotund lagoon
I use her on all my Poison teams.
summer flare
I would have used SS leaf in place of Koga at least
As for emmabat
I'm wondering if I should candy her to 3/5
I have some strikers to choose from
lunar meadow
I use her on all my Poison teams.
I run mono-type usually.
But man, I love Venusaur in this game.
I did a 5x toxic stall for 10k clear once. I wish I had 5 venusaurs lol
rotund lagoon
I'm wondering if I should candy her to 3/5
Save it for now. Datamine is close.
lunar meadow
I pulled 1/5 Emmabat and instantly candied to 3/5
But I also still have 6 more striker candies after that. I rarely need to candy my strikers so I had the ability to be reckless
summer flare
Somehow I have more support candies than anything else
summer flare
I want SS Morty at one point
lunar meadow
My 1/5 Ampharos and 1/5 appletun need candy 😭
summer flare
So those candies have a target
summer flare
After SS kris
summer flare
I feel like supports are really something else with the 3/5 boost
I just wanna go double damage with SS morty
So I can both have the obscene silver sync
And a respectable dps to finish off middle
lunar meadow
Doesn’t need 3/5
He doesn't support defense buffing well until 3/5 though
lunar meadow
Mine is only 2/5 and I want to candy him, but he absolutely doesn't need it
But he becomes pretty insane if you do
rotund lagoon
Plus he is extremely bulky.
rotund lagoon
Do you have power boosted Silver?
summer flare
Yes, he was still struggling unless I gave as little hp as possible to everyone
And then dodged anything that oneshot him
rotund lagoon
SS Morty and Silver are a great duo
summer flare
Which didn't feel good
rotund lagoon
But I think you’ll be fine until he comes.
Remember, your mindset is just as important. Have confidence in your teams.
summer flare
Yes, it's doable, which by the point I am, probably every type is
But there are types I feel uncomfortable or eh about
And types I can slam and close my eyes
Like water or electric
Perhaps grass
summer flare
Steel doesn't yet feel amazing
But I guess giving Raihan a grid should solve that feel
OR
frosty axle
See, these days, about every type is doable.
well not with sentry etc.
summer flare
Having colress
lunar meadow
I've had 3/5 EX Metagross for like 3 years.
I've never felt a need to replace him
summer flare
Colress makes steel much more interesting for me
In virtue of being the one above all fave
frosty axle
I have to offtype a lot thanks to no F2P special rock
summer flare
I wanna have Emmet and Raihan on a level that allows me to bypass sentry entry
Raihan needs at least some move levels for that, however
This week didn't have sentry entry, did it?
frosty axle
rock weaknesses did
rotund lagoon
well not with sentry etc.
I didn’t say every type
But Kalos is meant to be harder anyway and they do not have to be super effective all the time.
We have off type options too, like Cyrus exists.
frosty axle
well a lot of offtype options thankfully
Hooh and Abomasnow for wise entry. Mewtwo, Kyurem, Palkia and Empoleon for sentry offtype
I've used a few of those
rotund lagoon
Exactly. Somewhere, we can make it doable. And you’re not the only one here who does F2P clears
summer flare
rock weaknesses did
Wait
Are you telling me
That that rock weak stage
Had sentry entry?
I elbow dropped it
frosty axle
yes
summer flare
Like
frosty axle
it did have low health so that helped
summer flare
It was as easy as the rat bros stage
Which is insane
Specially with SST red being 3/5
rotund lagoon
@summer flare Done 
zealous karma
I don’t feel like bothering with F2P this week as it seems rather easy maybe in wrong but that’s the impression I ah e
bright furnace
Your F2P clear last week was fine
You know my opinion of those clears in general lol
zealous karma
Last week I did cause I think it was semi challenging this week seems free for F2P
Roark grid on 25th
Hau for electric
Silver for fire
Ghetsus for ice
Koga for poison
proud axle
I'm curious to see how well Roark performs with his new grid
I got an acquaintance into the game very recently, and they're probably gonna want a better Rock option than the two Brocks
paper summit
next week will be much more interesting
zealous karma
paper summit
vaporized, good thing that won't happen anymore after Saturday
zealous karma
I have no clue what grid im running on disntha if any
proud axle
(New problem, actually: since they got into the game very recently, they may not have orbs to spare on Roark... but we'll figure that out when we get to it I guess)
zealous karma
Roark would be amazing if he had Ex I already 5*’d mine
bright furnace
I'm curious to see how well Roark performs with his new grid
I got an acquaintan...
it's always fun to introduce someone to the game. i remember asking my friend questions for 3 weeks about different mechanics
zealous karma
I feel@I got the hang of the game too quickly lel
bright furnace
next week the preliminary plan is a 2v3
zealous karma
I kinda wish I took my time more I miss asking for help
paper summit
it's always fun to introduce someone to the game. i remember asking my friend qu...
tbh it depends on the person, some are hard AF to deal with lol
zealous karma
C’est plus difficile when you have to repeat stuff 🐴
paper summit
lol, what's that french about?
bright furnace
richu talking in 2 languages in one sentence 
zealous karma
I feel it sounds better that way lel
paper summit
I do that all the time when talking in spanish, lots of english stuff thrown here and there lol
bright furnace
mate, i can start a conversation in one language and end it with my 3rd one
zealous karma
I know 3 languages and I want to learn more lel
bright furnace
zealous karma
If only in rock zone
I want Diantha or champ calem to be my next 5/5 limited I really want zone extension
paper summit
why Calem? he doesn't have any extension
bright furnace
i wish i could justify a 5/5 but 3/5 is overkill enough for CS
zealous karma
why Calem? he doesn't have any extension
I have base already 5/5 I feel I should have champion there as well
paper summit
ah, well, that's for a different reason, it was just weird to include him in the same sentence lol
bright furnace
hope you don't have favs you wanna candy then
zealous karma
At the moment I don’t have any supp or techs I want more move level on I really like SCJasmine even atv1/5 lel
paper summit
realizing egg Perrserker is gonna be legit useful made me sad for not having SCJasmine, she'd be perfect for the guy lol
bright furnace
i still wish striker perrserker was the shiny
onyx ice
I'm curious to see how well Roark performs with his new grid
I got an acquaintan...
This is gridless Roark
Did like 20k despite sentry entry x2
proud axle
onyx ice
Ok it had op teammates, but still...
proud axle
EX Support, Rock Field, and Def debuffs... But that could still be a good sign, since it's his sync instead of his Head Smash
onyx ice
EX Support, Rock Field, and Def debuffs... But that could still be a good sign, ...
It was headsmash
proud axle
And I can clearly see that despite you shooting some AoEs at the enemy team, the boss still has almost the entirety of its HP
Oh, so
This was that moment right before disaster
Like Wile E Coyote standing on thin air and just realizing it before he plummets
onyx ice
I mean he oneshots himself but Diantha wipes the sides just after
nocturne pawn
is 8k on b diamond storm mega with her tm buffs regular?
cuz thats what she did against malva
onyx ice
I have her 1/5 so i never mega her
paper summit
Malva has Sentry Entry x2, it hinders physical damage
if anything, she'd be hitting harder in normal circumstances
proud axle
Yeah, post grid, Roark can do this more than once
nocturne pawn
I have her 1/5 so i never mega her
tbh even at 1/5 her nuke is fine
extra move levels just make it better
nocturne pawn
yeah but innate + rock zone is still pretty solid
onyx ice
I prefer support EX
paper summit
you are also debuffing defense by default, but yeah, I don't usually sync with a damage dealer when running zone setters
until 2nd sync
if I even reach it
proud axle
Anyway, thank you for that demonstration. We'll call this the "before" image. Let's wait and see the "after" image with his grid 
onyx ice
Curious how he was considered one of the worst units in the game, but got salvaged by op teammates even before his grid
Unlike Norman, that just became gauntlet utility
paper summit
he was doomed from the start 
onyx ice
Normal striker is a pretty bad start, but his grid was pretty bad too
Standfast 5 + 3 is a joke
Not even a proper sync nuke
The only utility is body slam he 3 (not even 4) so it has 90% paralysis chance
On top of a bit of body slam chip damage
paper summit
tbf, 90% is good, Gauntlet enthusiasts fish for worse RNG...
onyx ice
Yes is good, but there are eggmons that can reach 100%
And not that offers that much after that
Maybe a passable sync if your damage dealer has bad sync
proud axle
Roark made a strange kind of sense back at launch. When co-op was the primary game mode, and +3 crit wasn't meta, sacrificing Roark as a massive self-destructive single-use missile made sense sometimes
What I don't know is whether Norman could've been used the same way.
onyx ice
I remember Norman being used for autoing training courses
summer flare
I honestly never aknowledged malva having sentry entry
Went with Emmet and Raihan and they wiped her
onyx ice
I remember using Phoebe back then in coop for double edge, but she had dh+ and the passive that gave half the buffs to the replacement
summer flare
I also wonder if Olivia would eventually be a better secondary dps than 1/5 raihan
onyx ice
1/5 raihan is a bad rock dps
Can't even fix his own rock slide accuracy at 1/5
The only good thing is seun on tm
summer flare
I fear that won't change for a while
I am growing overcrowded on strikers and I lack candies
onyx ice
Kukui is a great secondary rock dps
summer flare
Even before 3/5?
onyx ice
Don't know how many accelrock tiles can get if not 3/5
summer flare
If I get his third copy, I might swap him in
onyx ice
It's just that you spam leer and then accelrock
summer flare
Might even get him to sync, if his sync is decent
onyx ice
Olivia and raihan are pretty slow
onyx ice
Might even get him to sync, if his sync is decent
Not really
onyx ice
No tech innate and cakewalk is pretty hard to set
summer flare
Wym no tech innate?
onyx ice
With trainbros 2/5 kukui should be fine
onyx ice
Wym no tech innate?
His sync has only brick break effect, but no damage boost
summer flare
Oh
onyx ice
For tech standards, kukui sync is one of the worse syncs
However has surging sand 5 innate so with trainbros is perfectly fine even if not 3/5
Leer helps with dps
Accelrock is a great 0 gauge attack
And his base speed is really high
In the past my to go comp for Rock weak was 6ex Hilbert, Olivia and Kukui
Now i have SS diantha so i will use her for rock weak
And the secondary (or primary) damage dealer can basically be almost any rock type unit
(maybe not Onix or aurorus)
Grant has a powerful nuke (in theory) but is atrocious to setup
Otherwise i go Gordie ssb diantha
summer flare
I don't have Gordie yet
He's one of the pairs I want
Wondering how good of a deal would be to pull on master fairs, in general
Given the amount of new pairs I want
zinc island
When i didn't have a good rock damage dealer
I used to set up a support to give a 2 times sync boost after the sync move
And squash the enemy in the middle with gordie's max monolith something
long thicket
Well this week is a very interesting one...
I managed to get 2k on every elite 4, but it took a decent amount of tries everytime and it always felt like I clutched the wins.
toxic cobalt
If it worked it worked!
long thicket
Diantha felt like the easiest battle.
long thicket
Wikstrom: Sygna Hilda and May, Lillie (EX)
Malva: Emmet, Ingo, Sygna Diantha
Drasna: Candice, Sygna N, Piers (all EX)
Siebold: Sonia, Sygna Red 2, Hau (Hau and Sonia EX)
Diantha: Plumeria, S Iris, Sycamore (Plumeria and Sycamore EX)
toxic cobalt
Diantha was easier than using SSRT?
long thicket
I've managed to do fairly decent damage to Siebold with Hau and classic Elesa combo, but he always had enough HP to take out the whole team.
I've beaten Diantha first try while everyone else took a few tries.
nocturne pawn
tbh thats not exactly a good metric
long thicket
Wikstrom and Siebold both took dedication as the ladies took some trial and errors, but were doable from my experience.
nocturne pawn
firis makes any poison pair a lot better
long thicket
Well, zone setters be like that, yeah.
toxic cobalt
firis makes any poison pair a lot better
In permanent field effect 
long thicket
I stand that Plumeria is an underrated unit, but help in buffs is welcomed.
paper summit
she has Smog, not Acid
nocturne pawn
yeah thats mb
paper summit
she works, but kinda needs EX to be actually worth it, so meh
nocturne pawn
also goes to show how long its been since ive used her
she has inertia and sets it up decently easily
but no crit is eh
compact yoke
Is there a pin for recommended lineups?
I also tend to choose lineups that aren’t good for the 2k conditions cuz I don’t think much
Think much or know much
tired sleet
Lineups as in parameters? Or as in teams
paper summit
well, you should, because no, we don't have preset teams, it's easier to learn proper team building than maintaining such a list of teams as it can change completely when new units come out
also, I personally don't love the idea of encouraging laziness
weak sleet
I was able to off type very easily, thanks.
grim bison
Who do I use for Grass damage next week
nocturne pawn
probably Brendan if you can worn around the accuracy drops
also whats the use of lodge cynthia
grim bison
SpDef boost and accuracy
compact yoke
well, you should, because no, we don't have preset teams, it's easier to learn p...
U prob thought I meant specific sync pairs no worries, I meant lineups of just the general type of people I need (zone setters, speed buffers, speed debuffers, crit buffer) for the corresponding Champion stage
paper summit
that still falls into general team building
compact yoke
So where do I turn to for team building advice specific to champion stage
I was told here
toxic cobalt
Here is fine. The pins have the specific stage issues that need to be overcome, have you had time to have a look?
For exmaple Siebold has healthy advantage so make sure you have a team that can give status
paper summit
you can come up with teams for the stages and ask for feedback, that's totally fine
compact yoke
Yes I’ve looked at the pins, I get confused by some of the stuff just cuz I’ve always played the game by just damage damage damage. Didn’t always go by how to beat utilize people
I’m tryin get better ^
toxic cobalt
Damage is good!
compact yoke
Yeahh but I wouldn’t teach myself how to make the most damage. Like it was stupid damage
Recently I’ve been getting help from u guys and I’ve been improving a lot more
Like I thought some characters weren’t great, but that was because I wasn’t using them right, or using the wrong team with them
toxic cobalt
Most damage is also good!
toxic cobalt
Anyway i fyou let us know the teams you're trying we can comment
Just hard to create teams from nothing without knowing what you have tried already!
compact yoke
Oh my bad didn’t know u wanted to help with em
One second I want to be able to reply quickly
But I’m doing something g rn
swift swan
take your time, helpers will be around
tired sleet
And mods, aces, stars, and trainers
compact yoke
What are those
swift swan
discord roles
swift swan
eh, it's not so bad. aaron was worse
paper summit
imagine not skipping Ash
swift swan
just slap paralysis on siebold and fire away with any electric damage dealer you got
swift swan
imagine not skipping Ash
ash skippers unite
paper summit
yeah, Siebold is easy to deal with, paralysis and send him to next week as usual
nocturne pawn
stage was practically made for him
nocturne pawn
yeah, Siebold is easy to deal with, paralysis and send him to next week as usual
tbh i wasnt using elesa well
so that’s partially my fault
haste elesa true meta btw
swift swan
stage was practically made for him
stage doesn't have to be tailored for sst red for him to bruteforce it
paper summit
BP Sophocles to the rescue
swift swan
I wanna test Hau
zinc island
Just a conglomerate of ratless people
nocturne pawn
honestly spark elesa is solid damage
swift swan
but because of Slo-mo, you know what that means. team swift reaction 9 go brrr 
wait but then I won't be able to quadqueue, dammit
toxic cobalt
Pretty sure Ash makes any weakness a free win
zinc island
No skills only mash
toxic cobalt
That man is not limited by anything
paper summit
using Ash for on type is as brainless as you can go...
toxic cobalt
I think Archie might be more brainles
zinc island
I did siebold last
compact yoke
Will zekrom do it for me? I wanna use pikachu’s for off type if I need
toxic cobalt
Yes
compact yoke
Even tho he’s 1/5 and not EX too?
toxic cobalt
Yes
swift swan
absolutely
zealous karma
Hmm I want to do a theme clear but idk what
toxic cobalt
Kalos
zealous karma
I wonder if I have enough crit buffers but I will try
full mesa
I'll probably use the rats against the next Diantha battle. I don't have a good Ground striker yet.
compact yoke
Zekrom, yamper, and who would be a not bad team? Not sure what to fill third spot with
toxic cobalt
I'll probably use the rats against the next Diantha battle. I don't have a good ...
My word
toxic cobalt
Zekrom, yamper, and who would be a not bad team? Not sure what to fill third spo...
Surgechu would be great
full mesa
Exactly. I don't think 1/5 Groudon can do anything there.
cosmic vortex
Is there any gimmick that i need to be aware of for next week csmm? 
compact yoke
Is surgechu raichu?
paper summit
Surgechu would be great
they have Volkner tho, no reason not to give N electric terrain
granted Sonia's paralysis caps at 60%
compact yoke
Yeah I don’t wanna use the pikachu for lightening
toxic cobalt
they have Volkner tho, no reason not to give N electric terrain
True, I was just thinking paralysis 100%
Sonia and Volkner together probbaly one of them will get it
compact yoke
Who for the third then if not the pikachus
paper summit
we just said...
compact yoke
Aight I didn’t know who dat was thank u.
nocturne pawn
thats what i ended up doing
paper summit
it's either Surge for Thunder Wave 100% paralysis chance, or Volkner for Electric Terrain and fishing for more paralysis
zealous karma
I’m stuck at Wilkstrom
lel
I forgot CCalem was the first Kalos crit bucfer
Buffer
nocturne pawn
wikstrom i destroyed with anni n so i cant say much about it
paper summit
no, this is about Richu's themed run
nocturne pawn
felt vindicating though after struggling with fighting weak
paper summit
he isn't "struggling"
nocturne pawn
oh he means i dont know what to use
paper summit
yeah, a Kalos themed run is tricky if you don't use damage dealers able to buff their own crit
zinc island
Next week's champion stadium is gonna be kalos again? I thought we were gonna move on to another
nocturne pawn
its the last week
paper summit
I mean, this is only week 3
nocturne pawn
we’ve had 3 already
paper summit
and the CS change doesn't happen until after an update drops
proud axle
Next week's champion stadium is gonna be kalos again? I thought we were gonna mo...
February's not over yet
zealous karma
Why did February have to be so short I want more Kalos
zinc island
I swore we had 3 amd then it was another region guess i was wrong and its 4
proud axle
It's "however many it takes until the month is over"
It's 4 or 5 depending on where the Mondays fall in the month
zinc island
Oh i see
zealous karma
It’ll be 6+ months until we see Kalos again crying!
paper summit
don't worry, Hoenn and Sinnoh will return sooner
zinc island
I still need alola and unova's badge
zealous karma
I’ll miss the tunes and I like the overall quality of the staves of Kalos lel
paper summit
well, the tunes will get added eventually to the jokebox
proud axle
They're not in the jukebox yet, huh...
paper summit
yeah, they don't put them there immediately
bright furnace
oh jeez it really is gonna end after next week
zealous karma
Kalos was super fun I really enjoyed the stages
nocturne pawn
the stages were uh
hit or miss
i despise electric weak siebold and fighting weak wikstrom
the rest are like
tolerable ig
diantha might also be a pain in the ass next week
zinc island
Last week's wikstron still gives me nightmares
keen jasper
Koga with the crit shield before sync
bright furnace
pre-sync clear 
paper summit
iirc Lance also has a stage like that
keen jasper
Dragon-weak
paper summit
but it's dragon weak, so meh
nocturne pawn
koga having crit shield is mad cancer tbh
keen jasper
Prolly made for Lisia back then
nocturne pawn
its ariados right
keen jasper
Fire-weak
nocturne pawn
yes ariados is the fire stage right
paper summit
yeah, Koga's fire is an Ariados
dark osprey
Or can use denials to get to second sync before crit shield
keen jasper
Unhindered+ when?
trail smelt
It’s super lame that we didn’t fight the real monster of Kalos haha
Ghost weak Wikstrom
In MM that is
nocturne pawn
can you dont
trail smelt
Nah he only appears during the first week, AKA type clearing week
dark osprey
But does ghost weak Wikstrom have some entry?
paper summit
no, it's multiplier passives and the equivalent defenses to Entry passives when he goes to shield form
but he doesn't buff a lot, and only uses King's Shield after sync
in the end he isn't as threatening as people think
old orchid
Ghost weak Wikstrom isnt a threat if you bring a hazer lol
dark osprey
I think we've got good tanks to handle that damage too right
swift swan
his damage is pretty high too tbf. those offensive stats 
fighting him in MM would've been so fun!!
I want to see my tank getting oneshot, it's funny
paper summit
ok, yeah, Flint's Fire Blast
swift swan
glacia as a boss vs playable glacia
swift swan
I have a meme about it
tulip aspen
is this team alright for malva?
zealous karma
I’d replace grant with a defense debuffer and you might be better off, off typing with 1/5 Olivia she won’t do a lot against sentry entry x2
swift swan
1/5 Olivia? eh I wouldn't bet on it
tulip aspen
is this hard mode?
yeah
would i be better off trying to off type with zerena or something?
old orchid
yeah replace Olivia with Zerena
tulip aspen
this is also on master mode and i have no idea what im doing when it comes to MM
this is the first CS ive unlocked it on
old orchid
in MM use the same team, but replace Grant with a defensive support
swift swan
start with 4.2k points (850 per round). parameters on pins
toxic cobalt
This is MM
tulip aspen
sorry
i forgot when i sent that
so by defensive support you mean like just anyone with defensive buffs?
keen jasper
Ghost weak Wikstrom isnt a threat if you bring a hazer lol
It's clearly meant for SS Korrina
tulip aspen
actually is there a recommended order to take on each of these fights in MM as well with the extra conditions (the "extra effects more likely to occur") stuff
old orchid
It's clearly meant for SS Korrina
yeah ik
keen silo
I have a meme about it
LOL
keen jasper
Man, Diantha barely survived 3.2k pts. Malva
tulip aspen
okay so i decided instead of doing malva on MM first ill try siebold
Im gonna use N zekrom as striker but idk where to go from there for supports
grand trout
Hilbert is a good one for starters
Maxes his crit and atk
You can inject Volkner too for paralysis and terrain
keen jasper
Boy, now I 3.2k-ed 3 stages
compact yoke
Could someone tell me things I’m doing wrong
Along with how I can quad queue cuz I watched a vid and I’m trying to tap quick enough and set the order up but idk
keen jasper
Damn, Silver almost totally demolished 3.2k Wikstrom on his own
swift swan
Could someone tell me things I’m doing wrong
Well for one thing, reset until you get Sonia TM MPR so you're at +3 crit
With N, I like to go TM > Bolt Strike > TM > support sync. His TM gives super effective up next if the user doesn't have a sync buff so if you use TM twice in a row, it will waste your SEUP
And don't click wild charge on volkner
keep using thunder fang
swift swan
compact yoke
Ayyy I fucked em up
keen jasper
Finally done with my 16k pts. clear
tulip aspen
Maxes his crit and atk
if my hilbert is 2/5 should i run a different support or still use him + another support to max crit
keen jasper
Man, SST Red + SS May= Sync on 1st turn
And also SS May helps set up Red's multipliers faster
onyx ice
dude is so tanky
He has the weakness to the hardest hitting unit in the game, ofc he's trying his best
swift swan
if my hilbert is 2/5 should i run a different support or still use him + another...
Preferably a different support
keen jasper
Preferably a different support
Like Hop
onyx ice
Hilbert isn't that great if not 3/5
keen jasper
hop cant max crit on his own right?
He needs 1 MP refresh on his TM to complete
Which in this case, you have 2 chances
onyx ice
I mean if you are struggling to complete the stage, fishing for mpr is worth
keen jasper
This is the first time I ever went higher for the challenge points, I got 15.4k on the Unova CS and I got 16k here despite me having some changes with my original team
dark osprey
hop cant max crit on his own right?
hop can complete his own ctit with sharp entry on grid i guess but thats not for the team
trail smelt
Oh huh he has sharp entry?
dark osprey
on grid. for striker Hop i guess
toxic cobalt
Nah, Striker Hop wants mpr to max atk
old orchid
Preferly Volkner or anyone that can setup Electric Terrain
Although using Hop makes the team usually low on gauge
Do you have BP Surge?
tulip aspen
yes
old orchid
And Volkner?
tulip aspen
yes
old orchid
So use them with N
Surge doesn't need grid but if you can grid him Endurance it would be nice
tulip aspen
is that locked behind one of his move levels?
old orchid
3/5 iirc
zealous karma
keep using thunder fang
I also rarely find myself using Volkner TM either lel
swift swan
same
onyx ice
Max HP and offensive?
Max offese, max sync countdown and hp
I picked up half health cuz calem has team safe start
But team safe start isn't really needed
I could do more with 3/5 tbolt red
Max conductivity would have helped
tulip aspen
okay so I'm trying this team for siebold mmcs and it is
not working
nocturne pawn
is he not dying or do the sides take you out
swift swan
what params are you running
tulip aspen
the 850 one
im able to kill the sides but after first sync surge dies and volkner and N soon after
swift swan
kill mid immediately
nocturne pawn
wouldnt sonia be better than surge here
swift swan
if 3/5 sonia
toxic cobalt
N is old unit
nocturne pawn
mm what about 3/5 hilbert
versed meteor
When i need aaron and find out i already used him