Champion Stadium

[frozen depot]

Teambuilding 101:

Step 1: pick a damage dealer ( / or with high damage)

• take a look at their moveset; note what they buff themselves in terms of offensive stats (Critical Hit Rate, Speed, Attack for physical damage dealer / Special Attack for special damage dealer)

Step 2: picking appropriate for your damage dealer

• take a look at your through the filter option and the Known Moves tab and pick two teammates that fill in what your damage dealer is missing (Critical Hit Rate, Speed, Attack for physical damage dealer / Special Attack for special damage dealer )

Addendum: if your damage dealer's needs can be filled in with only one support, then your third team slot is more flexible and you can choose defensive (potions, buffing defenses, lowering attack) or a second damage dealer

For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.

[mellow linden]

Do note that if your damage-dealer takes more than 2 turns to take care of their self-buffs you may want to have a Support that can speed buffs up a little

With that in mind, teams built around:

• SS Lysandre for Malva

• Burgh for Siebold

• Korrina for Wikstrom

• Mina for Drasna

• MC + Solgaleo for Diantha

Should be able to handle it

For some other tips:

1. Don’t ignore your 3- and 4-stars, they generally range from decent to amazing.

2. Make sure that all 3 of your team members are acting before every enemy action.

3. Focus down the center opponent 1st.

[crude glen]

ok, thank you so much

[swift swan]

yup, point 2 is very crucial. I can't stress how important triplequeue is, especially in harder battles like CS

a lot of times you can fail if you don't queue properly

[stray sentinel]

Siebold beaten. Who should I tackle next? Also my versus v fighting team@isn’t doing well 😭. Main issue is the medals I need. Any suggestions ?

[tired sleet]

Do you have bp janine?

Wait should i look at the left or right ones

[stray sentinel]

Oh derp one sec

Psychic and normal are done

[mellow linden]

I remember saying to replace Torchic with BP Janine (the one with Crobat) on a Hop + Torchic + Bea team previously

Oh, wait, no

It was Hop I said could be replaced

[stray sentinel]

Yeah lol reverse

But Janine is doing good my issue is a fire unit to go

[mellow linden]

That’s why Torchic

Helps with Bea’s buffs

Namely crit

[stray sentinel]

It’s supposed to be torchi

Lol

But he gets slammed first hit

Like ohko

[mellow linden]

Could do BP Janine as 1st target then and pray for evasion hax

[stray sentinel]

I don’t have bp Janine just three star 😭

[mellow linden]

No BP vouchers?

[stray sentinel]

No :/ not atm

[mellow linden]

Hmm

[stray sentinel]

Let me show what I have

If I’m keeping it type. But I don’t mind switching teams around

[swift swan]

Marley? gridded for team sharp entry 1. then paired with a good tank

though I don't know which E4 you've done

we might need to squeeze as many types in 1 team

[mellow linden]

It’s gonna be a lot of switcheroos, sadly

[swift swan]

poison can just go to diantha imo

[stray sentinel]

I don’t mind switching around everything. In my team pics I’ve beat Siebold

[swift swan]

ah so you have 3 E4 members left

[stray sentinel]

Yeah and the dianthasaurus

[swift swan]

what other ground types do you have? do you have bertha? she at least can double as a tank instead of Clay being..... deadweight

and I see Hop is unused. he can tank wikstrom

[stray sentinel]

If I tank with Hop who do I use as my fire unit somewhere

[mellow linden]

Wait, why are you trying SS Diantha strats against Drasna when you have NY Lisia?

[swift swan]

hmmm looks like 2/5 Bea doesn't have Inertia yet

[stray sentinel]

To use rock

[nocturne pawn]

ny lisia trashes fairy weak

[nocturne pawn]

yeah its 3/5

[mellow linden]

Rock’s already been used though?

On your screenshot

[nocturne pawn]

which kinda sucks

[swift swan]

your rock is used here?

[stray sentinel]

Oh idk

[swift swan]

About Wikstrom. I think Hop + Bea is enough to clear hard mode, so the third can be a filler type

[stray sentinel]

My bad idk why I didn’t use lisia

[mellow linden]

Opens things up a bit

[nocturne pawn]

we love our magical honse

[stray sentinel]

Lol

So I’ll do Delphic bea and hop for wikstrom

[swift swan]

that should work

[stray sentinel]

Delphox

Ok

Update so far

[swift swan]

Drasna team, just run NY Lisia. You have Masked Royal so run him instead of Karen for dark. gives teamwide speed and debuffs defense for Lisia too

[mellow linden]

Try Hop + Lucy + Bea for Wikstrom and NY Lisa + Marley + Karen or Masked Royal for Drasna, maybe?

[swift swan]

btw just wanna say, I really appreciate you ordering this according to types

[stray sentinel]

Lol np!

[stray sentinel]

Ok

[swift swan]

...wow, 3* Marley is tankier than I thought

yeah, that would work

[stray sentinel]

Where can I put a fire type then

[swift swan]

Marley

already in the Lisia team

[mellow linden]

Marley is Fire type

[stray sentinel]

Oh ok

[mellow linden]

That’s why I recommended her

[swift swan]

hmmm then I'm leaning more to use Karen as the third there

Marley has higher defense so she should tank the dragon rush better

then Karen can debuff sp atk

[mellow linden]

Plus Burn

[nocturne pawn]

r4 drasna seems like a legit menace to society

[swift swan]

bless marley for having HE4

[nocturne pawn]

40% flinches on top of just hitting really hard

[swift swan]

it's the right side you should be worry about

rock slide becomes 60% flinch

[mellow linden]

Marley’s grid is one of the greats

[swift swan]

40% flinch isn't bad

[nocturne pawn]

isnt it halved because of aoe or was that a lie

[swift swan]

I'm not sure if that applies to status interference. maaaaybe?

[nocturne pawn]

though tbh i wonder why i gridded he1 on glacia

[stray sentinel]

Ok. Now what order should I tackle this. Siebold is dead

[swift swan]

looks like there's no EX supports, so R2 and R3 are quite free

just don't postsync R3

kill mid ASAP

imo Malva is safest r4

[stray sentinel]

Sycamore is ex

[swift swan]

but you're saving her for the champion, right? so doesn't matter

hmm, wait

is your sycamore powerboosted?

[stray sentinel]

Right

[nocturne pawn]

wait how does that equate to free

[stray sentinel]

Yeah

[stray sentinel]

Yes

[swift swan]

R2 in general is hard to take advantage of, it's barely reliable for anything. and R3 is beneficial if your team has EX supports, but since none of the E4 team has EX supports, you can fight with any team

[swift swan]

Solgaleo needs a while to ramp up crit then

Team sharp entry 1 from sycamore, sharp entry 1 from Solgaleo's grid, and Focus Rush 2 on Solgaleo's grid

and of course you're syncing with sycamore first

so you're stuck with +2 crit until your second sync

[stray sentinel]

Maybe a different set up for that battle ?

[swift swan]

[stray sentinel]

Maybe out the ground type somewhere in favor@of a better pair

[prime warren]

Is that hard mode or master mode?

[swift swan]

well you do need a ground type

[swift swan]

hard mode

[prime warren]

You can try horse maybe
Tho I doubt it improves much

[swift swan]

I'm thinking of changing sycamore to someone with better crit buffs. falker or ss elesa maybe. but they're a bit frail

[stray sentinel]

Yeah I was gonna bulldoze spam

[prime warren]

I have no idea why you didn't shove ground in that siebold team

Oh sycamore is replacable
Then yea
Bring better tank

Like SSblue

[stray sentinel]

Because im a fool 😭

I don’t have ss blue i posted all my units a bit up

[prime warren]

You need both steel and ground coverage?

[swift swan]

Sabrina, Falkner, SS Elesa, or BP Surge. those are some crit buffers I can think of. OR, keep sycamore, switch your damage dealer and go offtype

[stray sentinel]

One sec

[swift swan]

You do need a status condition unit, but iirc Clay can poison via grid

[swift swan]

ah, I didn't see Lyra on your sync pairs tracker

[stray sentinel]

She’s new my bad

Let me update

[swift swan]

worst case scenario, you can offtype Diantha with anni lillie. completely self sufficient

[paper summit]

isn't kinda the same thing anyway?

like, both her and Solgaleo will ignore Healthy Advantage 4

dps wise at least

[nocturne pawn]

anni lillie sets up way faster though

she just needs speed

[stray sentinel]

Okay

What grid gives clay poison

[prime warren]

You don't need status

If you are using alillie

[nocturne pawn]

if ur running anni lillie you can just forego status since moongeist beam has piercing blows

[prime warren]

Since her ghost atk ignores it

[nocturne pawn]

same deal with solgaleo

[swift swan]

I was thinking crit buff was the problem

sycamore and solgaleo together takes too long to max solgaleo's crit

[stray sentinel]

Ok so anni Lillie. Sycamore and who else

Oh clay right

[swift swan]

sure

[paper summit]

is ground the only medal you need?

[swift swan]

you can run poison on clay, just so sycamore can help with damage and can heal himself slightly more with horn leech

[prime warren]

Just target sides with sycamore

[stray sentinel]

I didi psychic and normal

[prime warren]

No need to go through all that hassle and wasting orbs on clay

[swift swan]

fair

[stray sentinel]

Ok so I’m here

[mellow linden]

Could swap Glacia and Sycamore on their respective teams, maybe?

So that Sycamore’s buffs will be more impactful

[swift swan]

sounds good

Glacia will crumble easily in front of Malva's high offenses

[stray sentinel]

Ah ok

So I’m think wikstrom next then malva then drasna then diantha ?

Wait

Same order that u said before with these new teams ?

Malva last with r2 n r3 free to choose ?

[swift swan]

yes

[stray sentinel]

On my way!

Wikstrom dead ☠️

Is dragon zone permanent ?

[swift swan]

it will go away in approximately 1 sync cycle

ideally you should kill before drasna gets a chance to exploit it

Lisia should be able to presync

[stray sentinel]

I’m trying but she isn’t. I am running Karen five star/ny lizia /and Marley

And lizia doesn’t get to +6 attack

[swift swan]

hmmm were you able to quadqueue?

[stray sentinel]

Is that when u wait to sync so u can use the other two moves right after etc ?

[swift swan]

yes, on the last cycle before sync, you queue sync first, and then queue the two other moves. there should be a time window where the opponent doesn't queue anything, so after the sync animation, you immediately queue another move with the unit you just synced with

there's a video about it on pins

it's a good way to guarantee getting 2 syncs in before drasna can reach hers

[stray sentinel]

Hmm

Let’s me try I’ll report back

[sand karma]

For next week's Diantha I'll probably have to remove mind games 9 from Koga right?

[old orchid]

No need to

[sand karma]

She gets stat reduction reflect

But it's sp def

So yeah maybe it'll be fine after all

[old orchid]

It doesnt affect debuffs from passives

[sand karma]

Oh whaaaat

[old orchid]

It only blocks direct debuffs like Charm

[sand karma]

Awesome

[proud axle]

Rock Malva reprise, Elec Siebold reprise... The other three are new, huh.

[swift swan]

rock shift hyper beam time hell yea

[proud axle]

Wikstrom has a lot of Def buff sources, and skills to turn them into multipliers. Discourage 1 to weaken Special teams (but I doooon't think that'll actually stop me from using one).
Ice Drasna has... aaaah hell, Toxic Viral 9

...And eleven freaking passives.

[swift swan]

yeesh, it's not discourage 1 we should be worried about

it's the satisfied snarl 9 from sides

Nuke Silver time I guess

not that it matters, it's fire-weak ffs

[proud axle]

Shit, they have it? Good eye

And Ripple Effect 9 no less

But, hm. Dauntless or Impervious on the tank would prevent it from Rippling to begin with

[sand karma]

His sync is physical anyway so I'm keep cs2 for the sun nuke

[proud axle]

With how many multipliers Silver already has, CS2 is such a fractionally small bonus

I just leave him on Dauntless

Even for a phys build

Is there a good way to bring Wikstrom's defenses into the negatives for Silver...?

Poison Diantha doesn't have a lot in terms of gimmicks. Just Master Healer so that Draining Kiss will heal her for more, but... I doooon't think that's gonna put a dent in the damage Toxic is going to be dealing to her. She doesn't even get anything meaningful out of Mega.

Left side has Water-shifted Hyper Voice, but I'm not real sure there are any Toxic-stall-relevant units who're weak to Water

...Okay, this could be a problem for Venom Drench

[swift swan]

I thought stat reduction reflect only applies to status moves that debuff

not secondary effects from moves

[mellow linden]

I mean, they straight up said Venom Drench

[proud axle]

Venom Drench is Status

[swift swan]

ah, my bad. i forgot venom drench doesn't actually do damage

[sand karma]

1. Debating Janines position

2. Donno if i should keep sycamore with Koga or Ghetsis
   If I gave Ghetsis sycamore i could bring bede for sp def debuffs and presync
   But no ex special buffers like sycamore for Koga

[proud axle]

Even if it fails to reflect the debuff (because our team isn't Poisoned and might be invalid targets), it should still block the debuff from landing on the enemy, which is a problem

[proud axle]

For next week, I presume? Let's see

[sand karma]

I could presync 25k Glacia with Silver
Will have to see if it still works for 28k Wikstrom

[proud axle]

Does team E2 have enough Speed...?

[sand karma]

No

Relying on that sand acceleration

[proud axle]

Guessing you don't have Ingo, huh

[sand karma]

[proud axle]

Indeed. Oof.

[mellow linden]

Apologies for laughing, but just the sheer bluntness of the exchange got me

[sand karma]

Blue will be spending first cycle buffing
So i ll have to manage second cycle somehow

[proud axle]

If it becomes a problem, you could swap Diantha out for Masked Royal or even Lucian. Malva's weak against Atk debuffs; MR and Lucian can both boost team speed while doing that

[sand karma]

No Lucian either my fav e4
But yeah thanks I'll keep mr in mind

[proud axle]

Oof

But glad something good came out of that

[sand karma]

Hopefully it's done before i have to worry about gauge

[proud axle]

Looking at the others... I'm a little worried about Lyra vs Wikstrom. His team's offense is almost entirely phys

Kinda hard to come up with a better answer though... Sun is powerful

[sand karma]

It's all dependent on Silver nuking ASAP

[proud axle]

Indeed

[sand karma]

It do be looking like playing risky games throughout

[proud axle]

Calem vs Drasna blocks the Toxic issue, so that's looking good. Dawn's got the right buffs for Ghetsis, too.

And that team vs Siebold is ezpz

[sand karma]

IKR I think i might try BP Surgebpsophocles instead of Ash

[proud axle]

To free Ash up to possibly offtype nuke someone else?

[sand karma]

No

[proud axle]

Just for challenge/memes?

[sand karma]

I have left those dark days behind me

[sand karma]

Spice up stuff a bit

[proud axle]

Perhaps.

[sand karma]

Oh no i meant bp Sophocles
That should've sounded stupid

[patent torrent]

This is the team I used, I lasted as long as I did because of Aaron most likely

I used Noland sync first and then Aaron's so I wouldn't interrupt fury cutter

It was also a very close fight

[grand trout]

Stat immunity helps to not spread right

[grand trout]

Not to mention struggle bug

[proud axle]

Oh, yeah, BP Sopho makes way more sense. Absolute diamond in the rough for elec DPS

[proud axle]

Oh dang, he does have it. Only one MP for it, but it does exist...
So we basically have to approach this fight like there's Discourage 2

[swift swan]

it's only 1 use

so in total, wikstorm himself only debuffs sp atk by -2

it's the sides we need to be worried about, since the left slide spams aoe rock slide after mid is down

[swift swan]

you can always flinch/sleep it

[proud axle]

I thought that works with scripted moves. This one's just 1MP but not scripted. The 1MP is still consumed even on flinch/sleep?

[mellow linden]

I think MP doesn’t come back if the move is interrupted somehow

It’s just that with basically every MP move that can be interrupted we don’t really use them or don’t have the Sync Pair tanking

On the player end, at least

[proud axle]

Player MP is refunded for Flinch/Sleep, I've seen it

I don't know whether Enemy MP operates by the same rule

[mellow linden]

Ah, my bad then

[proud axle]

It's cool, it's a pretty rare thing (and it is not refunded for Paralyze or Confuse)

The possibility also exists that an update changed the MP refund rules

[onyx ice]

For flinch sleep, yes for paralysis or confusion, no

[proud axle]

I... just said that

[onyx ice]

Flinch and sleep just cancel the turn so anything is refunded and sync countdown doesn't drop

Paralysis and confusion count as a failed move, they trigger stuffs like ridicure and stomping tantrum

[stray sentinel]

What am I doing wrong. Should I be flinching drasna ? https://imgur.com/gallery/uBYas0A

Help me aqua team poke force 😂

[tired sleet]

You should start with a triple queue to get first sync after 3 turns instead of 4

[paper summit]

yeah, triple queue or bust, also, what's Karen even doing there?

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah why is Karen there…..?

She is not needed for that team.

You just need to worry about supporting Lisia.

[tired sleet]

Looks like it’s not master mode, perhaps she’s for the dark slot

I’d use Nanu instead if that was the intention

[stray sentinel]

I have no clue I went with a team given to me days ago lol

I thought I did triple queue

[rotund lagoon]

Huh? Who gave you that team?

[stray sentinel]

I’d have to scroll up to last night. Not sure tbh

[rotund lagoon]

And are you doing Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[stray sentinel]

Hard

[rotund lagoon]

Change to Nanu, Karen is just gonna hold the team back.

[stray sentinel]

Awesome. I felt that too

[rotund lagoon]

Also you have to start your triple queue before the enemy makes a move. You hesitated, it seems.

Get your strategy down on who is gonna use what on turn one.

[stray sentinel]

I think I want Marley to speed first

[rotund lagoon]

Not just her. Everyone.

[stray sentinel]

Nanu I’ll spam screech and ny lisia her attack tm

Good plan?

[rotund lagoon]

You’ll know by trying for yourself.

[stray sentinel]

Ok

Brb

[tired sleet]

It doesn’t matter too much whether you start with Lisia’s TM or Dire Hit +

[stray sentinel]

Doesn’t work even with triple queue 😭

Let me check their grids

[zealous karma]

Unless lisia tm already has super prep on it which idt it does outside of 3/5 I would grid marley for sharp entry so you can shorten Lisias setup by a turn

[stray sentinel]

Ok

[stray sentinel]

I hate this.

Should I swap marley for torchick

[teal siren]

Should I be clearing this before opponent first sync? Bisharp doesn’t survive first sync

[silent quail]

depends on your parameters

[rotund lagoon]

Its Hard Mode.

[rotund lagoon]

Got any Attack buffers?

Oh duh Torchic

I always forget they have Atk All.

[paper summit]

[silent quail]

yeah... its hard mode

but the parameters you pick

also define a bit how you should play the stage

presync or postsync

[teal siren]

Phys + Spec shield
Atk/SpAtk (all of them)
No Status
Strength +1
Sync Buff +5
Power Up on Hit 1 and 2
Gradual Healing
Ally Move gauge - 2
Strength +6

This is what I’m using

[silent quail]

well yeah, no surprise you're getting oneshot lol

[teal siren]

Lol someone else told me this is what they recommend I use

[silent quail]

ok, for this one, try this

[paper summit]

who would recommend full attack params?

like, some teams can handle it, but definitely not a good baseline lol

[silent quail]

Phys + Spec reduction
Atk/SpAtk +1
Sync Buff 5
Ally Healing 5
Gradual Healing
Strength 3
Gauge -2
HP 6
Stregth 6

Diantha doesn't have a very bloated HP

[teal siren]

Should I be one shotting left on first sync with bisharp without tm?

[swift swan]

jokes aside, while I always use full attack params for my own run, I never recommend them, I know the offenses are too brutal

[silent quail]

try that, without Metal Burst

and aim to use metal burst for Diantha

[tired sleet]

I never bother trying anything else

[swift swan]

full attack propaganda

I've successfully made dreamy try it, even though he was a strength 12 man

[paper summit]

masochist weirdos

smh

[swift swan]

it's the adrenaline rush!!

[tired sleet]

If i can clear pre sync then might as well take max attack

[tired sleet]

Tell me something I don’t know 😈

[swift swan]

either I oneshot the center or the center oneshots me

CCalem being brought down to endurance by malva's sun-boosted overheat was funny

[tired sleet]

I one shot the left side first generally, before moving on to mid

[zealous karma]

Strength 12 is better than any other parameter

[swift swan]

I've tried strength 12 before. very safe, but generally I'm not a fan

[tired sleet]

That’s why I dislike CCalem’s kit, he’s too frail for my liking

How dare he not have easy def buffs and potion 😤

[swift swan]

then I discovered presync and I never went back

[zealous karma]

Just had an idea

What the heck it’s only 7 I thought jt was like 10 already

Pain

[tired sleet]

What happens tmrw that you’re waiting for

[zealous karma]

Oh nothing I just thought it was later than it was

[paper summit]

Champion Time

[swift swan]

[paper summit]

is... is that a Gastly with a Leon texture slapped on it?

[zealous karma]

lel

[swift swan]

the depths of r/Emote Masters knows no bounds!

[zealous karma]

What a bad idea I had

[paper summit]

you? bad ideas? no way

[zealous karma]

I tried to beat CS using the first 10K team I ever done

And guess what a new player had bad team building who would’ve guessed

Pain, suffering even idk how I beat Any off these, all of them are off type

[zealous karma]

For me making these teams myself they could’ve been 10x worse

[paper summit]

lol, well some of them aren't too bad

like, Gio, Hau and Hilbert teams are ok

[zealous karma]

Ye, I’m going to have to stall tho and I can’t even get past Malva lel

I hate hyper voice a lot

Why does Malva have dauntless

I’m angry at who designed this stage

I have no good answers for Malva lel

Ima just do this theme next week lel

[paper summit]

you say that after you designed some outrageous concepts for the Kalos CS a while ago

[zealous karma]

Fair

I should look back at that

Electric siebold didn’t have vigilance sad and crit shields sad!

It didn’t age well sad

The kits/units they’d use weren’t off but I was able to guess some of them having sync multipliers

[stray sentinel]

Torchio doesn’t have a sync grid I am depressed now

[old orchid]

You don't need its grid

[paper summit]

we all are lol

[stray sentinel]

Lmao I want one 😭

[paper summit]

Soon™️

[stray sentinel]

Really?

[paper summit]

idk, it's a joke

implying maybe soon, or maybe in a million years

[stray sentinel]

Just maybe lol

[paper summit]

tbf the units without a grid went down to 4

so we'll see if they give him a grid soon enough

[stray sentinel]

Yeah im@not beating drasna

Cry

[paper summit]

what's going wrong? Lisia should handle this easily

[old orchid]

Lisia?

Where are Cyrus and Zinnia

[paper summit]

NY

Drasna is fairy weak, so NY was kind of implied lol

[old orchid]

I forgot Drasna is not Dragon weak this week

[paper summit]

but yeah, I forgot regular Lisia has Moonblast lol

[old orchid]

Guess i should go to sleep more

[paper summit]

tbf either week it could be confusing lol

[stray sentinel]

Im@using my lisia

[old orchid]

I dont get it, she should destroy Drasna

easily

[stray sentinel]

Ny lisia , nanu , and torchio

Torchic lol

Round 3 drasna

Should I round 4 it

[paper summit]

what's your turn sequence?

round 3 should make it even easier tbh

[zealous karma]

If you want guaranteed flinch for Nanu sure, but Lisia really shouldn’t be struggling is survivability your issue ?

[stray sentinel]

The first sync kills everything.

Want me to do a video?

Should I be screechihh by with nanu or biting

Screeching with nanu*

[zealous karma]

With Nanu in surprised she’s even getting to sync

[stray sentinel]

Lol y

[zealous karma]

Because flinches stall their sync timer

If they don’t use a trainer move

[stray sentinel]

I’ve been screeching 😭

Nope

Rng at this point ?

[zealous karma]

With round 4 and Nanu having max crit it is a guaranteed flinch chance for him

[stray sentinel]

I also beat wikstrom

So maybe malva round 3

[zealous karma]

This is just an example as I wasn’t going to go to round 4 but notice when I trigger sync the enemies countdown is at 4 when normally at this point it’d be at 3

I’m assuming the poison ground ice and dark are types you need?

I would’ve personally used Cserena for Malva cause that fight is cringe!

[stray sentinel]

Yep

[zealous karma]

If you don’t want to rely on Nanu having crit, you can grid Karen for aggravation

And just save the fight for round 4

She also has satisfying snarl which can be semi useful for lowering drasnas special Atk if you still somehow manage to do that even with 100% flinch

[paper summit]

Nanu has Critical Focus on grid tho, so he'll be able to max it

[stray sentinel]

Malva was easy af

Nanu I only have at 1/5 😭

My current failing plan lmao

[paper summit]

ok, send a video of that battle, like, the whole thing, I need to see what is messing things up

[stray sentinel]

K

[zealous karma]

https://streamable.com/f7qi3g I don’t have NYLisia but you get the idea

This was round 4

[stray sentinel]

Uploading my copy

https://imgur.com/gallery/0i6eCRl

Still loading

[zealous karma]

You does longer

How criptic

You need to change target for Nanu and then change back if you intend on flinch spamming

It goes
Middle -> right -> middle/left

[zealous karma]

I do it here

[stray sentinel]

Oh when it’s nanu turn change target ?

[zealous karma]

Correct

[stray sentinel]

I see

Only for nanu tho

[paper summit]

also, use Flame Charge on Torchic once you are done with TMs

[stray sentinel]

Everyone else target mid as usual ?

[zealous karma]

Yes

[stray sentinel]

Ok will try that

[zealous karma]

One thing that he said was recently learned is that Mina’s DPS is lower than sycamores

[bright furnace]

Mina grid expansion

[stray sentinel]

Hmm

Fml. Didn’t work trying again.

It goes middle -right -middle-left etc

Right*?

[paper summit]

roughly, yes, once left goes, then middle goes twice, then sync, then middle again

[prime warren]

It's hardmode
No need to worry too much abt flinch and stuff

Just brute force it

[stray sentinel]

It won’t work

[prime warren]

How would bruteforcing hardmode with best ontype fairy dps in the game not work?

[stray sentinel]

Idk!

[prime warren]

Skill issue

[stray sentinel]

I think i trapped myself with the types bein used

[prime warren]

No you are not

Just spam screech with nanu

Don't bother with actually trying to flinch

[stray sentinel]

I was doing that before

[prime warren]

Are you turn denying sides?

[stray sentinel]

I was doing that after yeah

Idk why my lisia doesn’t do it 😭

I’m so f frustrated I’ll try again@later

[prime warren]

Flinch in CS needs quite some luck
First flinch rng and next is hoping opponent actually uses damage moves instead of TMs

[stray sentinel]

Oh

Yeah it’s round four Drasna

[prime warren]

While screech spam and turn denial is braindead

Especially lisia can easily kill sides and buy more turns for you

[stray sentinel]

Oh I haven’t killed sides with lisia should I target sides first. The sync move slams my life. All three get ohko

[nocturne pawn]

dont let drasna sync

with dragon zone up it hits very hard

and she has a tendency to spam dragon rush post sync as well as having draconic power 4 which means it does even more

[stray sentinel]

That’s the issue I can’t kill her before syncc

[prime warren]

Kill sides before they use their move

So that you delay drasna from syncing

[stray sentinel]

I’m gonna try

[zealous karma]

It is honestly difficult for me to believe NYLisia would struggle this bad

in non MM

[keen silo]

Am I the only one who does left to right for move order 💀

[prime warren]

I don't have lisia but a non mega diantha without supp ex still destroys the stage

Lisia with nanu's screech abuse struggling sounds as realistic as Nate getting alt

[zealous karma]

like I even got Mina to beat the stage just fine with the same team

[grand steppe]

Was trying this out, but 1/5 Emma solo I don't think is enough. (I reset for Poison on 1st application, but I just wanted to show off the sync speed )

[prime warren]

Bruh summer Lyra two shots sides

Noway lisia isn't destroying the stage

[keen silo]

[paper summit]

man, 1/5 striker syncs are sad, most of them that is

that insane sync acceleration tho

[zealous karma]

I wantedto see the whole fight man'

[stray sentinel]

https://imgur.com/gallery/texvhK1

[grand steppe]

Everyone dies.

[zealous karma]

I didnt need spoilers smh

[grand steppe]

I mean my team.

[paper summit]

smh

[prime warren]

You are still trying to flinch

Deny turns on sides

[stray sentinel]

I probably need practice then

[prime warren]

Flinching TMs on opponent side wouldn't help
Resetting for it is a waste of time

[grand steppe]

Is the Lisia 1/5? You might want to use Lillie, for accuracy.

[paper summit]

also don't use a regular move right before sync, tap sync and then queue your other 2 moves after

[prime warren]

It's hard mode

[zealous karma]

They need types for 15 types

[prime warren]

He wants to run fire and dark units in there

[zealous karma]

I layed out how the fight should somewhat play out like but lisia should have a much easier time than Mina

[stray sentinel]

Yeah I saw idk wtf

Maybe ill just yolo and get medals next week that I’m missing

[paper summit]

I'm surprised Drasna's Dragon Rush hits that hard in non MM tbh

[zealous karma]

MChic is very frail

[paper summit]

not really, he has decent bulk

[grand steppe]

prolly 3-star tho

[paper summit]

ah, ok, yeah, that might be it

[stray sentinel]

I can make it four stars

[prime warren]

Mine is 5* so it tanks alright

Not worth the powerups

There are better stuff to give PUs for in low rarities

[grand steppe]

Lisia should be able to 2 tap the sides.

[prime warren]

She should one shot with screech

[paper summit]

throw your first Giga Impact at the left side

not on Drasna

[stray sentinel]

Ok

[zealous karma]

how do you mean btw?

[prime warren]

Maybe you can cover fire and dark in your last team

And use some other type coverage for this one

[tired sleet]

It did like 30% HP to my Sycamore being boosted by Spring Burgh (in hard mode)

[grand steppe]

Tried to mimic, as closely as I could.

[zealous karma]

1/5 no ex to 5/5 ex even gridless is a huge difference in power

[prime warren]

1/5->5/5 is like 20% BP increase

[grand steppe]

tell dena to introduce handicaps

[prime warren]

Do 2k MM with same team
Ez fix

[paper summit]

man, that gauge

also, TIL Lisia has Quick Attack lol

[prime warren]

Gauge sucks even with summer Lyra
The team is horrible

Would prefer piers+Marley instead

[tired sleet]

You should have brought like +3 def parameter to make up for it

[prime warren]

But they don't have piers I think so

[grand steppe]

Same result. You can tap left with Impact + Sync, and then deny the right side by doing Bite Flinch on mid.

I think, they're just not used to managing the turn order when a flinch is involved.

[prime warren]

Shit I need 3/5 ccalem to do 2k MM with slyra

[stray sentinel]

I’m going to have to@figure out the sides or just save medal completing for next week

[zealous karma]

I dont intend on sounding rude but Lisia really should not be struggling this bad can you send a full gif/video of what you are doing cause.....

[paper summit]

honestly, more like a proper video, of the entire battle, not just first sync cycle

[zealous karma]

correct

[grand steppe]

If you miss a giga impact, you have to reset.
But, instead of using bite, I think just doing screech on left and then using Bite after Lisia syncs should be fine.

[prime warren]

I wanna cry
Slyra buff plz, worse than Mina

[stray sentinel]

I’ll try again tomorrow morning and record it and tag ye

[zealous karma]

kk

[marsh crater]

This is the best i can do

[zealous karma]

I imagine with that team you can get 2K

[marsh crater]

Diantha is 2k

[swift swan]

Def

[zealous karma]

o

[marsh crater]

Drasna and wikstrom i cant 2k. Only 1.5k each

Well at least i can get the last 20 champion spirit

Better than nothing.

[zealous karma]

How come no sycamore ex?

[marsh crater]

Sycamore use on malva. With ss lysandre

[swift swan]

Sycamore + Mina + crit buffer can 2k

[zealous karma]

oh that sounds overkill

[swift swan]

Ss lysandre doesn't need sycamore's boost lol

[zealous karma]

ye

And bruno + korrina and a crit buffer can 2K

[marsh crater]

This is what i used

[marsh crater]

Didnt build em. Im out of sync orb. This is the best i can do right now

[zealous karma]

i see take it no bea either

[marsh crater]

Bea at 1/5

[zealous karma]

ztill a solid DPS

[stray sentinel]

Watch me try tomorrow and win 😂 that’s usually how it goes

[marsh crater]

Someone said my 2/5 wally is better than 1/5 bea

So whichever works i guess. Since i have lucian to reduce sp def.

Both drasna and wikstrom i put post sync parameter

[zealous karma]

idt that is true lel but as you have ex ssb they should wor together'

[swift swan]

Then try presyncing

[marsh crater]

Oh wait only drasna. 1.5k wiktstrom is presync

[swift swan]

I imagine 2k presync should be easy with bea

[marsh crater]

Well im tired lets see if i have the mood later to reset

And if i have the sync orb to build em

[zealous karma]

I’ll try the teams gridless

[marsh crater]

Will we get solgaleo and hop ex?

[paper summit]

Hop, of course, Solgaleo is in a weird spot

we'll see

[marsh crater]

So far only hop didnt get the ex right? Or did the old player got him to ex already?

[swift swan]

Not yet

You can see he doesn't have the symbol next to his stars

[zealous karma]

Oh lovely

Wilkstrom EQ one shots them both

[swift swan]

Meaning he doesn't have one yet

[marsh crater]

Ah i see. Thank you

[zealous karma]

Oh great when I buff my def turn one

Wilkstrom crits wally

Happy ambiguous creature

[swift swan]

Luck issue

[marsh crater]

The zone is terrible. Too stonk

Need to rerun to get lucky

[paper summit]

I enjoyed getting a boosted Flash Cannon right on the face before overriding zone with my own lol

[marsh crater]

Feel ya. That flash cannon 😱

[zealous karma]

this is doab;e

[swift swan]

Haha i felt that

"this is doable, i just need to get lucky"

[marsh crater]

Later show me, if u succeed. The vid if u can please

My brain already got bump inside

[zealous karma]

kk lel

[paper summit]

imagine telling that to you-know-who

[zealous karma]

heck

fridge pain

I queued a meteor assault to slow

dying

geniune skill issue;

[paper summit]

smh

[swift swan]

Smh play at 1x speed

[zealous karma]

i blame team shout

[swift swan]

ha

[marsh crater]

Team shout? Why. It didnt proc?

[zealous karma]

no it did that is the issue]

can wikstrom stop critting wally like what are the odds of that

[paper summit]

so, you are failing quadqueue is the issue

[swift swan]

Ssb right? Just grid adrenaline

[zealous karma]

I was clicking meteor assault but phone read j was clicking her sync

I gave up

[swift swan]

Smh

you'll never do the calem vs latios solo with that attitude /j

[zealous karma]

That’s why I haven’t done it yet crazy!

I hate steel beam

[swift swan]

[paper summit]

that's flash cannon

and what parameters are you even using to get Morty killed? smh

[zealous karma]

3K…

[zinc island]

Christ

[paper summit]

well then, good luck with that

[zealous karma]

Sometimes

I hate this game

[paper summit]

admit it, you have a toxic relationship with PoMa

[zealous karma]

I do

[swift swan]

Richu, our local bad decision maker

[zealous karma]

What are the odds of getting para’d by discharge through damage guard diantha getting crit and then morty getting fully paralyzed into a aoe crit Eq

If I had 2 strike candies right now and ex pu id be in an extremely dangerous situation of impulsively 3/5’ing and EX’ing Buzzma to then never use him again

[swift swan]

Richu pls do not

[zealous karma]

I don’t have either so I am fine lel

[paper summit]

it's ok to meme, just not to that extent

[zealous karma]

I’m pretty sure this is the story of my ice week drake experience

Of me candying HoliLeon

[swift swan]

Ice-weak drake made me EX Hala but at least that's a cheaper investment

[zealous karma]

lel

[civic trellis]

I EXd Hala after ice weak drake but im prepared for next time atleast plus its another ice/alola option

[zinc island]

I think for ice drake i used ssN

[tired sleet]

Same, I love N even if SS N is mediocre

[marsh crater]

U gave up? Nooooo

[zealous karma]

I’ll try later I have a headache

[marsh crater]

Ok ok rest. I feel ya.

[marsh crater]

U use this team to get pleasure in revenge?

[zealous karma]

Oh no I’m recording for my 3K run I already beat it but I didn’t record

[tired sleet]

[zinc island]

Is he? My only compaint sith him is that he takes too long to charge his attacks

But overall he does dexent damage and can debuff a bunch of opposing sync pairs

[dark osprey]

He's quite good but different. He can be useful to fill gaps in many teams and is literally gauge negative

Better to pair him with a nuker

So he can focus on the dps & debuffs

Also great for gauntlet

[tired sleet]

His damage is decent but quite low for the average 4 bar strike nowadays. His nuke is also hard to set up by himself, despite not dealing much damage

[dark osprey]

Yeah. His nuke is not that good but his dps is quite good and cannot compare with 4 bar strikers because it literally takes negative gauge with proper rotation

[paper summit]

well, you can 100% compare, because by the time it takes him to do good damage another more efficient unit would have done much more

the guy is usable, but going by today's pokefair standards he is pretty meh

[tired sleet]

I compare him with 4 bar strikers since they’re the baseline for how much damage is expected for a unit

[dark osprey]

It's not just the damage, he enables a double four gauge striker composition very easily

[tired sleet]

His utility is nice but I’d never choose him first for debuffs since he’s really slow at that (he can only cast bnoble roar once in a sync cycle). Being relegated as simply a secondary striker doesn’t exactly mean much

[dark osprey]

That's why I mentioned that

[tired sleet]

As in n + another person?

Or N and 2 other 4 bar strikes

[dark osprey]

Yeah dual striker only but with probably any support

Plus having sync countdown reduction on an attack move is something that is overlooked

[tired sleet]

His damage is nice chip, but unless you’re really strapped of options it’s not really the defining point of a team

I hate the idea of someone simply being a secondary strike since like, SS Diantha, Lucas, May, SS Erika, SS Korrina, or SST Red are also gauge efficient while bringing something actually useful to the table

[dark osprey]

Oh. Not secondary. The thing is that damage calculations cannot factor in sync buffs

With an EX support sync and kinda like a normal presync setup. SSN deals one freeze shock with 2X buffs and one with 3X buffs

That really does a lot of damage

[tired sleet]

It’s a good amount of damage, but considering how he lacks any multipliers, i wouldn’t call it anything crazy

All that’s different compared to other strikers is that the 2nd freeze shock is completely after the 2nd sync rather than one attack before and one after

[dark osprey]

Yes. And that is like a 50% buff we don't consider in calcs

I think at 4/5 he does get quite crazy

[tired sleet]

25%, actually. It’s not like another striker can’t put one attack after and one before the 2nd sync

He’s still attacking with only a 100 base power move with that set up. Even with all the pmun and ex buffs, those only make up for his issues rather than make him stamd out

[dark osprey]

I thought 150 but yeah either ways

#916852389347196958 message

In this he deals like 14K offtype

granted 4/5 though

[tired sleet]

With champion calem and the 2x kalos pride boost

With that set up, anyone would look good

[dark osprey]

Without that also at less than 4/5 deals 8K or so offtype

That's quite good I feel

[tired sleet]

4k damage off type isn’t particularly special for nowadays

[dark osprey]

That's the thing. It's not exactly 4K damage due to the sync buffs

And if you get a denial with him on team, you're one sync cycle ahead

[tired sleet]

That doesn’t seem much different from a regular denial with adrenaline support ex + move

[dark osprey]

I understand that he's not favorable for most people

Yes. He takes care of adrenaline

[tired sleet]

He can’t exactly denial by himself, he’s just very teammate dependant
Needing attack and accuracy support without a grid is also uncomfortable

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Agree that the accuracy thing may be a pain at 1/5 but after that he's ok with that

[tired sleet]

Like, 9k with 3 sync buffs and 1 pmun is not exactly remarkable (this is not a perfect stage tho, only +5 atk). Even with all of his damage steroids he still lags behind modern strikers who can also nuke

[dark osprey]

Honestly, 9K on that stage with the parameters isn't that bad. On type NY Lisia with 0 sync buffs and 2PMUNs above was doing like 4K I think

[tired sleet]

According to my quick calcs with 0sync buffs and 2 pmun, lisia does 6k on type. It’s 6.8k with ramming speed and 10k with fairy zone
Without pmun, it’d be 6.7k total
With no zone and off type, it’d be 2k pre sync and 3k with 1

[dark osprey]

Ah yes. Probably. Just without ramming speed probably.

Here
#1009554906568462476 message

And don't think it's maxed out. And guess it was 4.8K

Non MM though

How much bulk does Drasna have btw?

Seems quite high

[tired sleet]

If that was with strength +7 and level 140, lisia would deal 5k with 1/5 and no multipliers

[tired sleet]

Same as every other cs stage

[dark osprey]

The max CS bulk you mean

[tired sleet]

I don’t know what you mean by that

[dark osprey]

That 28K HP thing

[tired sleet]

It’s 28k starting, yes, but with strength +7 its 38k

[dark osprey]

It starts with 17K or something iirc

For the Johtos, Kantos, Unovas

Also Kalos some would have 17K

[tired sleet]

Old cs start with 17k, yes

But every kalos stage starts with at least 19k, probably cuz of 140

[dark osprey]

Ah probably. But I do remember that the sentry entry rock Malva has 17 if I'm not mistaken

[tired sleet]

Wait nvm, malva has 17k

Yea you’re right

[dark osprey]

Probably only that

Since the sentry entry maybe

[tired sleet]

Probably, since the sentry entry is actually impactful here

[dark osprey]

Yeah makes sense

[long thicket]

I might have to skip 10k this week, unless I really dedicate time later today and tomorrow.

I'm at 2k right now.

[keen jasper]

2/5, not EX and no grid

[swift swan]

[full mesa]

Good thing I didn't pull for him. I already have enough water demolition machines.

[swift swan]

He demolishes offtype easily too, i'm very certain

[rotund lagoon]

He should, I can try testing him.

[zealous karma]

Would you like some assistance in team building ?

[long thicket]

Maybe, yes.
I only got Malva done.

I should try the pre-sync parameters first, maybe.

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah the problem with Kalos is post-sync basically screws you 90% of the time.

Better to go for pre-sync.

[zealous karma]

As most of them were given sync multipliers or zone before their syncs with multipliers, wikstrom hs an innate and rising tide 💀

On ghost week

[rotund lagoon]

[full mesa]

Cyrus too rain or not 😉

[trail smelt]

I’ve never found that to be true

[zealous karma]

Without rain I’ve done it and with rain I’ve done it too it’s fairly easy

[long thicket]

Not sure how I'm supposed to be able to take them down pre-sync.

I guess going for Support sync is a waste of time?

[rigid flint]

Which battle is this?

[long thicket]

Most of them.

When it comes to Drasna, I managed to almost defeat the sides, but her health was still long.

Only cleared Malva so far.

[rigid flint]

Ah right

Which units did u use against Drasna?

[long thicket]

Tried the Wally and Diantha combo.

[zealous karma]

How come?

[trail smelt]

SS Wally?

[zealous karma]

For diantha you have tk sync first with her

[rigid flint]

That should go quite well

[zealous karma]

Otherwise her damage is lower than supp Ex

[rigid flint]

But yeah, in Diantha’s case you’ve gotta sync with her first

[long thicket]

If I have to defeat the main opponent before s/he gets the chance, having to sync with the Striker second makes it more difficult to do.

[zealous karma]

The stage wasn’t to bad for me and I don’t have SSWally I imagine with Him it should be easier but I take it no ssbrendan

[rigid flint]

It should be doable without a SpDef debuffer right

Just need some Speed

If that’s the case

[trail smelt]

I gave up on mono fairy lol

No SS Wally no Bede

[zealous karma]

Not even I can do mono fairy

It’s so painful

I have a 2/5 150 Ex diantha and they recommend gloria

[rigid flint]

Play Rough best Fairy move obv

Once I get SS Wally hopefully I can do mono fairy

SS Wally, NY Lisia and Lillie

Oh wait no no

Mono fairy means fairy for all of CS right

[zealous karma]

That sounds horrific as most fairy units don’t buff their own crit

[rigid flint]

Yeah I was gonna say

[zealous karma]

Well if you have every limited fairy then it’s easy

[bright furnace]

Anni Lillie the limited fairy unit

[zealous karma]

TFW you almost throw your fighting 3K run

[bright furnace]

almost means you didn't right

|| when is that 3k run video, richu ||

[zealous karma]

It should’ve happened yesterday but I didn’t even attempt runs yesterday should happen tomorrow! As I am already at the champion

Man the frogs are just so disgustingly broken

[bright furnace]

you can say that again

[zealous karma]

lel

This was the only clear so far

That only took one attempt

And it was off type

Hwogieownfkwk

[bright furnace]

that's a weird emote

[zealous karma]

I died and hit my key board I apologize

How was that not 3 gauge sksksorjeo

[bright furnace]

you left us hanging at the end there

[zealous karma]

I was relying on the free move and didn’t get it from his TM

[bright furnace]

skill issue

[zealous karma]

When everything goes well but your sync doesn’t crit

[paper summit]

Richu's struggles, live in 4k

[long thicket]

Oh okay, I actually got Drasna done.

Used Nita as Speed booster, but she didn't last long.

Also got to time Wally to do an Uno reverse when it comes to zone.

But I couldn't defeat her before sync, and she healed after the sync too.

[zealous karma]

Ty for reminding me I wanted to try wally with a good team

I almost tried to 3k with wally woops

[paper summit]

do it, you coward

[zealous karma]

I’ll do it but I can’t Ex him lel

Epic

[tired sleet]

[zealous karma]

Wally please get a defense stat thanks in advance

[paper summit]

imagine not using SS Diantha to fuel Cakewalk, smh

[zealous karma]

I DID IT

[zealous karma]

That’s what I did here lel

[paper summit]

that's SC Diantha, not SS

[zealous karma]

Oh I miss read

[calm grove]

i've got these guys left and need to beet wilkstrom and drasna

i'm saving xerneas lunala and pallow for duantha

or is that over kill

[zealous karma]

Lillie can work for fairy, and SSDiantha + Korrina and a tanky physical/spd buffer can work

[calm grove]

is gilbert good

[zealous karma]

1/5 hilbert is okay 3/5 hilbert is amazing

[calm grove]

koriana for wkstrok doesn't work it keeps dying yo eq

[calm grove]

i have 2/5

[zealous karma]

how about soniia do you have her?

preferably 3/5 as well

[calm grove]

i already used her and she as well is 2/5

[zealous karma]

oh then hop will work fine then if he wasnt usef already

for fighting Korrina does not need a grid and Hop + SSDiantha should work for wikstrom

[calm grove]

alr thx just beat wikstrom

[zealous karma]

yw

[calm grove]

i only have anaversety lilly

[zealous karma]

That is who I meant ye

You could prolly use Sycamore Pallow ALillie

[calm grove]

then what should i use for diantha

wait do ur moms come back i haven't rly done champ stadium before

[zealous karma]

She is weak to steel so I recommend Solgaleo a crit buffer + Nanu

they do not

[calm grove]

oh okay ty

[zealous karma]

is this hard or master mode

[calm grove]

hard

[daring osprey]

Do you have all the types unlocked or are you doing them?

[zealous karma]

Hmm You will likely have to off type diantha, can you show your 5*'s from the upgrades menu?

[woeful wave]

so you need 15 units raised to be able to clear champion stadium?

[tired sleet]

Pretty much

You might not need to have all 3 pairs on a team at the max level if you have 1 tank and 1 damage dealer

[woeful wave]

hmm, I guess I will just clear what I can for now at least get some clear rewards

[rotund lagoon]

Are you doing Hard Mode?

[woeful wave]

I can share my roster, get some ideas on which pair can be use on which fight

ya, hard mode

[rotund lagoon]

You should work to fill the medal if you haven’t.

[woeful wave]

so they is a seq needed cause of the round buff/debuff right?

[swift swan]

the round parameters should be taken into consideration when you're battling the E4, yeah

there is no fixed sequence who you should fight first, but look at the round params and see which ones benefit your team/put the enemy at a big advantage

[woeful wave]

for now, I will clear what I can.

For Siebold, is Noland ok as the main dmg?

[swift swan]

hard mode should be doable with Noland

[woeful wave]

hahaha, siebold got phy atk def up

I guess Viola XD

I think I will try not so eff atks

[swift swan]

viola needs heavy support

got lusamine?

[woeful wave]

nope, well I cleared 3/4. may have choose the wrong units to do some, as I cant clear the last one hahahaha

[swift swan]

who's the last E4 left

siebold?

[woeful wave]

wikstrom

may have been the bad idea fighting him last

The pairs I used on the other 3

Units left for last E4

[swift swan]

hmm, guess you might need to defog the zone away with darach if he hits too hard

but wally can work, or solgaleo

[woeful wave]

should I buff solgaleo first?

the 3 energy one

ok, thing is I not yet really upgrade their sync grid well not enough to

[swift swan]

yes, although bringing a support that can buff solgaleo's offenses also works, so he can focus on damage immediately

don't forget to bring a crit buffer

[woeful wave]

hmm, I could bring pheobe for crit buffer

wikstrom is not weak sp atk down but still works right?

just need to crit it

[swift swan]

yep, make sure your crit is maxed out

[woeful wave]

I could try Sabrina for Sp atk up 3

[swift swan]

she can work, yeah

[woeful wave]

sycn atk with sol?

sync?

[swift swan]

Yes

[woeful wave]

Ok, manage to clear after enemy change up their atks

Ok, how to deal with champion

[tired sleet]

Make sure to status condition the centre or else they have a damage reduction

[woeful wave]

O ya that

Hmm, need to crit up and status mid errr

[old orchid]

well you always want to crit up anw

[woeful wave]

Like this?

Or like this. Not sure if she can survive long enough

Was thinking tank bisharp

[keen silo]

What other supports do you have?

[woeful wave]

Support class?

[zealous karma]

Hop

[keen silo]

Yeah hop works ^

better than lyra at least

[woeful wave]

Welp, time to lvling him up

[swift swan]

taking a closer look at ice-weak drasna next week

so nasty bruh

[woeful wave]

I think for me it champion as well.

[zealous karma]

Who hurt her???

[swift swan]

dena

[woeful wave]

hard to beat?

[zealous karma]

It looks painful to conceive

Go viral toxic, ramming Spd furios brain

Virulent toxin toxic powrr

That’s insane

If she had crit buffs that DPS would be horrofyimg

[old orchid]

Damn dena want us to regret skipping SS N lol

[woeful wave]

well, hard for me is alr bad enough. doubt I will be in master anytime soon

[old orchid]

But nothing can stop the sumo grandpa!

[woeful wave]

hala?

dont have enough exp, be at coop mode till max lvl Hop. ahahhaah

[swift swan]

2023/02/20 - 2023/02/27
Rock-weak Malva: Mid is fully physical, left is mostly physical, right is mixed. Sets sun on entry and extends duration of sun. Has a lot of Sun-related passives so changing the weather is recommended. Mid has Sentry Entry x2 which doubles the base defense stat (Piercing Blows and other moves with a similar effect do not ignore this). Special moves is recommended.

Electric-weak Siebold: Mid is mostly physical, sides are mostly special. Very bulky HP (almost 29k). High offensive stats. Debuffs AOE speed a lot. All 3 have Healthy Advantage 4 which reduces damage taken when not affected by status condition.
Tip: Piercing Blows and other moves with a similar effect can ignore this.

Fire-weak Wikstrom: Mid is mostly physical, sides are fully physical. Very bulky HP (almost 29k). Debuffs AOE special attack a lot. Has Tough Cookie and Towering Force which raises the power of moves and sync moves the more defense is raised.
Tip: To mitigate the special attack debuffs on your damage dealer, bring an Impervious tank.

Ice-weak Drasna: Mid is fully physical, sides are fully special. Bulky HP (21k). Sides have Furious Brain which raises the power of moves the more special defense is raised. Mid has Furious Brawn and Ramming Speed which raises the power of moves the more attack and speed are raised respectively. Uses AOE Toxic right before sync.
Tip: Bring a tank with Antitoxin or Status Immunity.

Poison-weak Diantha: Mid and left are fully special, right is mixed. Very bulky HP (29k). Mid has Master Healer 2. Sets Fairy Zone right before sync.

[swift swan]

just use ghetsis, similar effect

[woeful wave]

sad my ghetsis not ex

I joined back when team flare atks XD

[old orchid]

Too long didnt read

[swift swan]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-crying-sad-sadness-cute-gif-14808170

[woeful wave]

I read all of it

doesnt mean I understand it XD

[swift swan]

the very important gimmicks are bolded and italicized

[woeful wave]

ya, kinda understand. just need to see them in action.

hmm, need to find a tank in my roster that fits in the ice fight

any recommendation for that

[old orchid]

Do you have Melony?

[woeful wave]

not sure how well I can do, even in hard mode only. but I will try my best

[woeful wave]

I have, recently got her

1/5

Dont have troublemaker 1 yet

[old orchid]

That stage is designed around her

And give her Troublemaker

[swift swan]

make sure safeguard is up so you don't get poisoned

[woeful wave]

ah, didnt hit troublemaker XD

burned all the cookies

[onyx ice]

She really wants 3/5, so you can grid vigilance and keep troublemaker as a lucky skill

I gave her troublemaker but she's only 2/5 so i Don use her that much

At 3/5 she buffs more and gets vigilance

Elio + 3/5 melony is probably the best sleep lock machine

[long thicket]

I got Siebold done too.
I have Wikstrom and Diantha left. And I'm not sure about Fighting.

I have EX Wally, and I do plan to EX Bea eventually.

Usually, I have Sygna May for sync acceleration for Wally, but maybe I should avoid that?

[old orchid]

No?

Wally works very well with SS May

[long thicket]

I'm not confident in my Fighting team building, that's about it.

I did miss on some good units for that, so part of the fault is mine.

But I feel like only Wally and Bea are worthwhile damage dealers for the type.

Earthquake is gonna be an annoyance.

Should I count on an EX Support or avoid that?

[woeful wave]

I used sol as dps

[long thicket]

Welp, I ended up cheesing it.

Won it first try with the Chus and Yamper.

[woeful wave]

I wanted to win with 4 star lucario, put it kinda hard XD

[old orchid]

[long thicket]

Got Diantha done with a weird combo.

Hop, Sygna Giovanni and Steven.

But yeah, first Kalos 10k here.

[swift swan]

Nice, congrats

Ss giovanni so good he ignores healthy advantage 4?

While I can't honestly imagine how you managed the gauges there, I guess ss gio nuked mid before it even mattered

[long thicket]

Not sure about that. This combination definitely took a few tries and it was a close win.

[swift swan]

Because diantha wants to be statused to deal full damage

Hop + steven + status unit is enough

[long thicket]

But the basic parameters for 2k require anti status change.
Yet sometimes they work anyway.

[woeful wave]

@zealous karma @keen silo thx for the tips on Hop.

[swift swan]

Sometimes what works?

[onyx ice]

Max moves ignore healthy advantage

This week didn't realized she had healthy advantage, cuz i one shot with max steel spike

[swift swan]

Sure, but that's a one time nuke only. Though i'm sure ss gio can ohko with the max steelspike

[woeful wave]

XD

[versed meteor]

Where is 2k f2p video?

[tribal agate]

#1072581173546586194 message

[mellow linden]

You can probably search “f2p” using the CS tag in #1010274591601598555 and find some teams, but you probably have a good enough roster to not have to stick strictly to f2p teams unless you’re new

[zealous karma]

Ye

[woeful wave]

12/18 clear. I guess it decent