#Champion Stadium

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marsh crater
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Enemy attck

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I need dps on my team

hidden ore
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How about Noland @grand trout ?

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They have it

grand trout
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No

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Sentry entry x2 means no physical bugs

hidden ore
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Offtype special ?

grand trout
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Offtype with a special unit

marsh crater
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Thats why i tried off typing ss lysandre

grand trout
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Yes

marsh crater
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Xerneas volcanion and …?

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Surprisingly i beat drasna without xerneas

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My ss lysandre at 1/5 tho

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Just pull for fun

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Was thinking of getting lusamine with that 1 multipull. Got ss lysandre instead. Anyways

paper summit
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you tried to get gen pool Lusamine from a multi in Lysandre's banner? that's... a choice I guess lol

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the guy is very good even at 1/5, so yeah, enjoy

marsh crater
grand trout
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But a unit debuffing the opponent would be appreciated

paper summit
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make a guess, he is a water type

marsh crater
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Yeah i guess i can try. Siebold regen is ridiculous tho

paper summit
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granted the brainless choice is the frogs lol

grand trout
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A rain would be good yes, but that would benefit siebold too

marsh crater
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The side dead with heatwave

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But starmie keep regen

paper summit
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do you have a Spirit master pair?

grand trout
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Try scalding starmie first?

marsh crater
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Wait finding sp def debuffer

paper summit
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other than debuffs, that's the only other thing I can think of, or maybe special move up stacks, granted that one is harder to come by

grand trout
grand trout
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Try viola? She's a bug type, can weaken siebold, has residual damage with infestation, and can work thematically with xer and volc

paper summit
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well, I wouldn't value Kalos theme skill that much, the benefit is too little

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I'd agree if one of them had a master passive

grand trout
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I agree but for now she can be the third one

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Iirc siebold has waterfall tho

marsh crater
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Agatha with shadow ball to lower sp def. Shadowball took 3 gauge tho

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Volcanion need another 3 gauge

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While xerneas horn leech also 3 gauge

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Omg

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Agatha got on the roll so yeah can be done. The gauges is the problem now

grand trout
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Doesn't sycamore help?

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Do you sync with him first?

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He can provide 6 speed iirc

marsh crater
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Yea always sync with sycamore

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Ok will try now

paper summit
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if what you want is special defense drops only, use Koga

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Mind Games 9 on grid, Venoshock is a 2 bar move, and his drops are guaranteed

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unless you want to also use Hypnosis with Agatha

marsh crater
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U can sleep the opponent when they are burned?

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Nope siebold regen is ridiculous

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His 2nd sync wipe my team out

trail smelt
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How’d you let him sync a second time?

marsh crater
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Cannot beat him before that. His regen

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Haih

paper summit
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oh, right, forgot about Lysandre's burn needs lol

marsh crater
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Did he really got sentry entry?

paper summit
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nvm

paper summit
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that's the "struggle" here, but a strong special pair should do overall better, unless they have Alder or SS Hilbert

trail smelt
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Kalos is rather light in entries, only him and Rock weak Malva has it

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Both Sentry Entry x2

marsh crater
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Or maybe i should steam eruption siebold first

paper summit
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his B Hydro Pump is quite a nuke, are you using it after a support EX sync?

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what parameters are you even using anyway?

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him reaching a 2nd sync is a bit... concerning lol

marsh crater
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Instead of heatwave until side dead

paper summit
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don't touch Heat Wave

marsh crater
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Instead of heatwave until side dead

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Use attack param

patent torrent
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Noland doesn't care about sentry entry

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He still eats through them

marsh crater
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Really? Ill try noland then

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Nope no can do

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Too much the damage reduce

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Its like put a full defense parameter

old orchid
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You can do dual strike team with Lusamine and Burgh

marsh crater
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Dun have em

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Feels like want to reset and do offtype frog duo

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Put lysandre on malva

old orchid
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Thats better

sand sand
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Hi. I need help with Tiles and narciso

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I have pheromosa (for bug recommend) and sirfetchd or gallade( for fighting recommend)

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But I can't win

tired sleet
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What move level are they?

sand sand
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1

marsh crater
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4k dmg heal everytime on siebold is insane. Does he heal everytime he use water move?

old orchid
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Dont pick too many hp and strength parameters

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Use the set in the pins

old orchid
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You better offtype the Bug weak stage with a strong special dmg dealer

old orchid
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So use him with Solgaleo

sand sand
old orchid
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Can you show me your support roster at move level menu?

old orchid
sand sand
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I'm doing legendary quests

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Wait a sec.

old orchid
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Oh is this hard mode or master mode?

sand sand
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Hard.

old orchid
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Oh so its easier

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How many types have you filled for the medal?

sand sand
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Support

old orchid
sand sand
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No

stray sentinel
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Is drasna zone a big deal to worry about ? Will ss diantha at 1/5 be enough

tired sleet
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She only uses it right before she syncs

trail smelt
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If you survive the sync though, she’s gonna start OHKOing things so watch out

teal siren
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These are the 5* units I have left for the final battle on my 10k run any ideas for team comp?

tired sleet
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Kimono Grimsley would be great

old orchid
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Hop - Kimono Grimsley - The Masked Royal

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Level them up to at least lvl 120

tired sleet
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Diantha has healthy advantage

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Bring a status user

old orchid
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Oh yeah i forgot

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Replace Hop with Sonia

teal siren
old orchid
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And grid her with Spark HE1

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Any status works

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Paralysis is more recommended

tired sleet
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Since it doesn’t run out

old orchid
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Since this stage is made for Colress

teal siren
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How should I grid masked royal and grimsley?

tired sleet
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Gimme a sec, i’ll take a screenshot of my grimsley grid

Don’t have royal tho

old orchid
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Grid Grimsley with nuke tiles

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TMR doesnt need grid

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Go to #1009587872342478908 pins for grid examples

teal siren
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Spam brutal swing for def drops right?

tired sleet
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Smth like this would work

tired sleet
old orchid
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Winston you type so fast HildaCry

tired sleet
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For krimsley, what i always do is use screech twice, then tm, then sync denial left, then cast metal burst to destroy mid

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I’ll do the calcs to see how many def debuffs you need on left to ohko it, to see how much you can screech mid instead

teal siren
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Do I just spark with Sonia on all opponents till para? Or do I use TM’s first?

tired sleet
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Only the middle has that damage reduction passive skill, so you only need to paralyze the mid

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But starting with a TM is good for def buffs

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Also you only need 1 defence debuff to OHKO the side (without factoring any lucky skills or theme skills), so masked royal can take care of that

teal siren
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What parameters should I use? Should I try for pre-sync?

tired sleet
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If you’re comfortable with it, yes. Kimono Grimsley works well on hyper offence

old orchid
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Save his TM before the 2nd sync to comfortablely nuke Diantha

tired sleet
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I’ve personally always preferred using his tm right before 1st sync for the offensive buffs, then immediately using metal burst to crush mid

old orchid
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Yes

old orchid
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So i prefer using his TM before the second sync

tired sleet
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That’s also fair, but his 2nd sync is also enough to ohko mid, even without se up

old orchid
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Oh

teal siren
tired sleet
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That way i don’t have to reset for sonia mpr

paper summit
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imagine needing to sync to nuke Diantha CynthiaSmug

tired sleet
paper summit
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depending on what move Diantha hits Grimsley with, he can one shot her with Metal Burst

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like, if she uses Iron Head, it's over

tired sleet
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I don’t even bother saving se up for metal burst WulfricKEKW

spare condor
tired sleet
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Here are some starting team ideas without type overlap
Malva: Cyrus, May,
Siebold: SS Hilbert, Lucian
Wikstrom: SSA Cynthia,
Drasna: Ash,
Diantha: Pal Marnie, SS Leaf,

spare condor
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Tyty

tired sleet
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I was trying so hard not to cause type overlap that I couldn’t think of anyone to use with SSA Cynthia RileyHaha

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For the last team, you might want your third to be someone who provides +2 crit and some gauge

swift swan
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It's only the second week of Kalos CS but I've entered the hall of fame five times already because of all the tests I've been doing CyrusSweat

paper summit
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what a try-hard

swift swan
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this week is fun! JasmineRelax

old orchid
zealous karma
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Also same to that too

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These are easily my favorite e4 themes

devout sluice
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This week was fun also.

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I decided to try testing out steel type units on 2k steel weak

old orchid
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Only behind Hoenn E4 lol

zealous karma
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Maybe I should try my KGrims

devout sluice
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Kalos a bit tougher than Sinnoh.

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With the zone sets and the sun for malva

zealous karma
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I found this easier because the jp didn’t feel that bloated

devout sluice
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Ya, It was easy for me also.

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Just need to offtype poison next week.

paper summit
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Koga slander never ends huh

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poison is easy in every region

zealous karma
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We even have Lucy and Roxie now

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As well

paper summit
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yeah, quite a bunch of options now

tired sleet
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Why use them when you can use koga tho, seems a lot essier WulfricKEKW

paper summit
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shocking idea, use 2 of them

zealous karma
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Roxie has good DPS and Lucy has a good nuke

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They have better synergy in that sense i@feel as they’re both physical

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Making it easier tk support

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Because of the 9 hilbertillion clones

tired sleet
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Fair ig, but i will never betray koga ||except whenever i’m bored of him or when atticus comes out||

zealous karma
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Who’s Atticus?

swift swan
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just stall smh

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have more patience

zealous karma
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Banned

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I hate battles that are 4-5 minutes lel

old orchid
tired sleet
zealous karma
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O

tired sleet
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He’s kinda a nerdy wannabe ninja, i love him
He also speaks shakespearien english, so that’s cool

zealous karma
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I don’t feel like I have a good koga team so I haven’t been using him as much anymore

tired sleet
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I’ve historically always used ss leaf + cheryl

zealous karma
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I’ve mostly used PDawn + Sabrina for koga

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I didn’t remember him by name but know his design lel

marsh crater
paper summit
marsh crater
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The moment she put dragon wish. U immediately put rock wish. I run ghetsis, ss diantha, kiawe.

swift swan
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just presync drasna so the dragon wish doesn't matter EthanGenius

teal siren
old orchid
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I forgot that your Sonia isnt 3/5 yet

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So use his TM before the first sync

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To crush the left

tired sleet
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But start with screech so Grimsley doesn’t get popped by an early aoe move; use tm on the third turn

teal siren
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So should my first go around be screech, spark, brutal swing, screech, Sonia tm, brutal swing, grimsley tm, Sonia tm brutal swing, grim sync on left?

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Okay definitely think I’m using the wrong parameters because first sync did not ohko Vanilluxe

old orchid
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Screech, Sonia TM and MR TM on the first turn

tired sleet
versed meteor
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Malva 2k what is useful i dont wanna use the frogs yet?

tired sleet
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Probably something like Cyrus and May

versed meteor
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May didn't cut it but i didn't think of cyrus

tired sleet
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I meant both on the same team

versed meteor
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Then what as support cause aaron and swimsuit misty don't sound like good fits

tired sleet
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Anyone who buffs spdef to some reasonable amount, i’d have to know your roster to be more specific

dark osprey
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And if possible some crit buff for May

tired sleet
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If they have 3/5 may she has dire rain, so it’s not needed as much unless she’s syncing

zealous karma
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Can use sycamore as the support sssuming Ex and pb

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Has sharp entry so maybe doesn’t have to use MGR and can allow her to@focus sync while Cyrus can spam pump with crit focus

tired sleet
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Bit worried that he might not survive if they spam overheat early on

zealous karma
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I love 20% chance to not crit 100% of the time

keen jasper
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If it's not 100%, then it's 50%

zealous karma
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May just hit 20K with muddy water what the heck

keen jasper
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I wish I can do the MayDeathStare emoji

magic crown
zealous karma
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Can’t see the number so crying

keen jasper
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143,957

keen jasper
zealous karma
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How have all my syncs not crit

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0% chance

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For a sync to crit real

tired sleet
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Punishment for not exing burgh smh

zealous karma
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Never will happen

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So close

swift swan
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what are you trying

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3k?

zealous karma
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Ye

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Morty can’t tank Wilkstrom lel

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It’s so sad Buzzma with tenacity hits just about as hard as diantha xoes

keen silo
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3rd pair really depends on ur roster

versed meteor
keen silo
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Also, does super effective next apply to sync moves?

keen jasper
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As long as the damage you deal is actually supereffective against the enemy

keen silo
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What's the dmg multiplier while having the effect?

keen jasper
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+50%

keen silo
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ah so x1.5

zealous karma
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Double down + super prep hype

keen jasper
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NVM SophoKEK

keen silo
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Yeah just wanted to make sure lol SophoKEKBoom

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Ty 👍🦕

keen jasper
rigid flint
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Huh

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Why does my NY Lisia only do like 9k damage on sync

keen jasper
rigid flint
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I

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I'm quite sure it did

keen jasper
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What are your parameters?

rigid flint
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Something doesn't seem quite right

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Pre sync 2k

rigid flint
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And with atk and spatk ^ 3

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Yeah

zealous karma
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Super prep/zone?

keen jasper
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9k at 3/5? Feels like it didn't crit

rigid flint
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Cos I've got a defense debuffer in Kiawe

keen silo
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^

rigid flint
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Maybe gimme a sec

keen silo
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Try again

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And see if its 9k again

zealous karma
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I’d use an aoe debuffer

rigid flint
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I don't have SS Wally but yeah

keen jasper
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That's too weak for Lisia even if she doesn't have SEUN and zone even at 1/5

zealous karma
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If it’s first sync that seems perfectly normal without zone

rigid flint
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I was able to clear the stage regardless but idk

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Just seems off

zealous karma
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I think that’s normal

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Can even go into poma tools put your params into the champion stadium then sync grids copy the defenses and see the damage there

rigid flint
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Aight

zealous karma
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Wow somehow survived 3K drasna sync

keen jasper
zealous karma
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3/5 Brendan
2/5 diantha
1/5 SSLyra

keen jasper
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Ah 2/5

rigid flint
zealous karma
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Praying we get like 11 strike coins out of nowhere

rigid flint
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This is with crit

zealous karma
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No cs2

keen jasper
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I'm impressed she can deal this much damage with max HP, strength and defense parameters

rigid flint
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Oh whoops

zealous karma
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Maybe you didn’t crit

rigid flint
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Lemme try again

keen jasper
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Honestly, I can't read the room SophoKEK

zealous karma
rigid flint
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This is with -3 Def

zealous karma
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Odd did you maybe take a def up tile?

rigid flint
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Nope

keen jasper
zealous karma
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I’m not really sure then

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Could be a grid difference or params or anything

rigid flint
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Well this is first round

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With this grid

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And +6 Atk and +5 Spd

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So honestly I have no idea why Lisia is doing such damage

zealous karma
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Could you send a video of your params?

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also the order in which you click strength params also matters for whatever reason changes the values of levels lel

rigid flint
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But honestly I'm always able to finish it off with 2 more Giga Impacts and 2 more Quick Attacks if the sides don't die

zealous karma
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I’m going to sleep now tho hope you figure it out lel

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I had a similar situation with thorton

rigid flint
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Bloop here's the vid

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I'll also send a vid of the battle brb

rigid flint
# rigid flint

Oh whoops turns out I accidentally pressed Max HP ^ 6 when swiping up but trust me it wasn't part of the params

keen jasper
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Hotdamn. Still max HP, strength and defense parameters

dim marsh
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Hold on, since when you can do over 99.999K?

marsh crater
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Finally beat siebold at 1.5k with ss lysandre

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This kalos cs wants me to do off typing

trail smelt
summer flare
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Base Kris is a scary pair

old orchid
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i love how an upgrade entirely changed Kris

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she was a shitty pair then now she is one of the best water striker

trail smelt
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Mega Miss more like Mega Nuke

dim marsh
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Wait what changed?

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How did she get upgraded?

old orchid
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she got new 3/5 tiles

dim marsh
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WOW

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Are they out yet?

old orchid
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yes

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she got them months ago

dim marsh
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She got Kris' Cunning?

old orchid
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you can go to pomatools and check

dim marsh
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Thanks

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Just read her, she's pretty good

zinc island
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Man i've been up from 2 AM up to 6 AM trying to make a 10k run for the kalos champion stadium i'm almost there i'll leave diantha for tomorrow though, i should really get some shut eye

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If you want to know the teams i used just ask

trail smelt
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What was the toughest for you

onyx ice
formal musk
sand karma
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Do you have Skyla left?

formal musk
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yup

sand karma
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Is she ex?

formal musk
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wait no i forgot i used her already

sand karma
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Any other ex supports left other than Rosa?

formal musk
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lyra

sand karma
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Nvm

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What move level is Sonia?

formal musk
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3/5

sand karma
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Next time you ask for help send ss from upgrades move level

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Then it should be possible with Sonia, Roxanne and Solgaleo

old orchid
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Sonia Solgaleo and Molayne should be an easy clear

formal musk
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ok thank u ill try both teams to see

old orchid
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Or a spdef buffer instead of Molayne if you cant pre sync

sand karma
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Keep in mind to paralyze centre before syncing on her

formal musk
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ok thanks for the advice

old orchid
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Get TM MPR and Critical Squad, and Spark HE1 on Sonia grid

onyx ice
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Didn't even realized that diantha had healthy advantage

keen silo
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^

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I only realised in the middle of attempting mm2k and still did a first tryer

onyx ice
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I mean i just one shotted her with SS Giovanni's max steel spike so it didn't even triggered

meager agate
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in a world where pretty much every recent battle tips screen only recommends on-type units, the game realizes “oh shit we literally got nothing for bug”, gives up, and tells you to use lucian

keen silo
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Only took like 4 iron tails to end her (with healthy advantage 4)

onyx ice
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And the gauge battery

meager agate
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yeah? lol the idea was like all the other battle tips nowadays usually provide you a team that is fully on-type

keen silo
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I guess its

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bugged

meager agate
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true

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anyways i would never put buzzma and keldiantha on the same team

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not because they wouldn't work but because keldeo can pull its own weight just fine

onyx ice
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But monotype isn't always the best comp, since you don't care much about the type of the support or the debuffer (if not for theme skill)

meager agate
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i feel like my joke didn't land

onyx ice
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Maybe Nolan could have been a good gauge friendly bug unit

onyx ice
keen silo
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i have no buzzma

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so i cant tell you ma opinions

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😔

meager agate
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joke-explainer 9000 here, ||it's a subtle commentary on how despite all of the ways pokemon masters breaks normal pokemon rules, it can't save the bug type from being so trash that it doesn't get a decent set of options 3.5 years in despite having more units than poison||

onyx ice
keen silo
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i have keldeo, so all the time she's my go to for csmm2k fighting

onyx ice
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I have aura Cynthia, and that it's enough to destroy fighting weak mm even with f2p Korinna

keen silo
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I have her too

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so usually my go to first attempt team is her Keldeo and some speed buffer

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like marley

onyx ice
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I used Aura Cynthia, holiday Jasmine and Korinna, and her 1st close combat post 6e support sync one shot wilkstrom

keen silo
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For me I'm not worried about landing a presync at all

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Because aura cynthia

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Just tanks everything like mad and has potion

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👍🦕

onyx ice
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Even Hitmonlee is a pretty competent fighting damage dealer

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But needs either pinpoint entry ls or accuracy support

keen silo
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What sync pair is that

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Is it eggmon

onyx ice
keen silo
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Ah

onyx ice
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High jump kick hits pretty hard

keen silo
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I'd assume it has the recoil thing when u miss

onyx ice
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The point is fixing his accuracy so missing isn't an option

keen silo
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Yeah i get it, was just wondering since I don't really raise any eggmons

onyx ice
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They are pretty useful for gauntlet

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Some are pretty strong even for mm

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Tech Ninetales has sun and 1 gauge spam

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Tech Gyarados has rain, flinch and potentially decent dps

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Strike Gyarados has pretty good dps

keen silo
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Hm

onyx ice
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Strike Raichu has good DPS and piercing gaze

keen silo
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If anything I'd rather invest in some for mm, I myself don't like gauntlet and just to bare minimum for that

onyx ice
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Tech fearow has leer and decent enough DPS with drill peck

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Most support eggmons can rise a single stat to +6

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Not the bestest options but if you need something like +6 speed or +6spa/att they can come handy

swift swan
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all in all, eggmons are niche, and there are only very few good striker ones and you definitely have better non-egg choices for MM

onyx ice
swift swan
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and you're much better off offtyping than hitting your head against a wall trying to ontype with strike magneton

onyx ice
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Was thinking about the new perseeker

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Magneton is pretty lame

swift swan
onyx ice
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Rock special is forced offtype without c blue

swift swan
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it's not so bad, we have a lot of great special damage dealers

onyx ice
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Yes isn't so bad

old orchid
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Malva only has 17k base HP, brute force with physical Rock type isnt really hard

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And Rock Zone exists

onyx ice
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I mean i had a better time beating Siebold with frogs or Deoxys than with alder

old orchid
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1/5 Alder?

swift swan
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well I'm not surprised. depending on the team comp and Alder's move level

onyx ice
swift swan
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...well

onyx ice
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But i don't have bug zone

swift swan
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who were your teammates

onyx ice
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I mean i still cleared it, but i had some gauge issues

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At least using alder SC Jasmine and bede

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Then i replaced Bede with Lucian and had no problems

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But had no problems even with Deoxys and the frogs + BP may

keen silo
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Rock special is an off-type for me too

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Really depends on who I've used for the week

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I used Lusamine for Siebold

onyx ice
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I mean i could still use rock physical

keen silo
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Had to do a few attempts because hydro pump always melts my support a bit and move rng

onyx ice
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If i can offtype malva and wilkstrom with rock physical i think I can on type malva too

keen silo
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I could too now that I have SS Diantha

onyx ice
keen silo
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Haven't been able to try ss diantha and olivia together

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The first week of kalos cs malva was a good stage to try on but had to use goofy team for medals

onyx ice
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She works fine

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Even ss Brock works fine

swift swan
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Olivia can clear rock weak no problem

onyx ice
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Yes she can, but her DPS is kinda mhe and without 6ex i had troubles one shotting the sides

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However she works with 6ex Hilbert and kukui (if SS diantha isn't an option)

old orchid
#

No sand?

onyx ice
#

Leer and accellerock dps are much better than sand

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I have no Ingo so sand wasn't an option

old orchid
onyx ice
#

If i had Ingo it would have been definitely a better team comp

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Both kukui and oliva appreciate sand

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But for Olivia DPS isn't a big deal

swift swan
#

not sure about the exact numbers, but I'm pretty sure Sand is more necessary. remember MM opponents have mitigation on their debuffs

swift swan
onyx ice
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Yes but i didn't wanted to 6ex her

swift swan
#

it's fine non-EX? just adjust her grid

onyx ice
#

But without 6ex support buff she can't one shot the sides with stone edge

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Plus i have no Ingo, so i would need support and sand setter

swift swan
#

from my experience using EX-less Olivia way back when, I DPS the sides and nuke center on my 2nd sync (after support EX)

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Hilbert, Acerola, Olivia has always been a staple

onyx ice
#

Plus i don't like to play 2 sync cycles and still have a 20% chance of having to reset

swift swan
#

on first sync? good luck then

rigid flint
#

Olivia has a hard time doing significant damage on first sync

swift swan
#

it's hard to set up her multipliers on first sync as well

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well, not too hard now that I think about it

rigid flint
#

With Hilbert it's relatively easy

tired sleet
swift swan
rigid flint
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The amount of times I've had to reset my runs because the enemy wants to bully him is uncountable

onyx ice
#

Not a problem anymore since now i have ss Diantha

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It was more a thing of the past

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Plus i'm not a fan of nukers that can't guarantee the crit on sync

nocturne pawn
#

accelerock has higher base power anyway so like not surprising

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bertha just exists to nuke and set sandstorm

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her other moves just enable the sync

onyx ice
nocturne pawn
#

then you’d use them together anyway

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sand on entry for dps stuff then set sand for nuke

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if you have like bugscy then you also get leer and mga

onyx ice
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My rotation was leer X4 oliva tm 1st turn, and then stone edge spam, Hilbert buffs and then 6ex support buff, then 2 stonedges and 1 accelrock to the mid, plus a stonedge + accelrock to each side

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Generally it worked

nocturne pawn
#

oh wait olivia has inertia gdi

onyx ice
#

However Roark is getting a grid and i think it will have comparable nuke

nocturne pawn
#

its comparable but no ex will still make him worse for cs

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because clearing the sides with sync is really useful here

onyx ice
#

Yes i was talking of my non ex olivia

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Plus if you have SS diantha, striker ex doesn't matters much since b diamond storm will obliterate the sides anyways

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And without her, i feel that head smash should still deal with the sides even with just standfast 7

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Expecially if chip a bit of their hp with accelrock

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Can't wait to try using head smash under rock zone post 6ex support sync with -6 def, +4 pmun and seun

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Then maybe i can try squeezing power reserves 5 too for the memes

marsh crater
#

Wow 2k siebold just got rekt by frog pair

old orchid
#

pretend to be surprised

marsh crater
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Need more unit like frog pair

onyx ice
#

Leon could clear it with -3 sync parameters

marsh crater
#

I still dont have any gmax unit

#

What u guys recommend for cs?

onyx ice
#

Leon isn't g-max yet

marsh crater
#

I think for supporter is enough roster.

onyx ice
#

But Gordie has gmax

marsh crater
onyx ice
#

However i just used max flare for sun, it did pitiful damage

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Attack wasn't boosted and the stage is physical resistant

marsh crater
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Oh coalosal

onyx ice
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Yes the g max move is called volcalith i think

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That like g max wildfire is more useful for the damage than the effect

marsh crater
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I want to get annabel but snorlax kit…i have enough supporter

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Dont have the damage dealer for every type

marsh crater
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I dont think can get 10k cs

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Its too hard to beat 2k wikstrom and drasna with my current roster

onyx ice
#

Fairy weak may be troublesome, maybe sycamore can do something

marsh crater
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Only can manage 1.5 k each

trail smelt
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Come to think of it I have no idea what GMAX brings to the table for Leon

marsh crater
#

Higher than that. Phew

onyx ice
#

For fighting weak,i think Korinna or solgaleo also could do stuffs

marsh crater
onyx ice
swift swan
#

Mina is totally useable

onyx ice
#

Close combat has pretty high BP and she has like 400+ atk at 5*

marsh crater
swift swan
onyx ice
marsh crater
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Sycamore used already

swift swan
swift swan
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works too, just slightly harder I feel

marsh crater
swift swan
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Sonia then

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Hop's point there is to buff Mina's offenses

marsh crater
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Dont have sonia

onyx ice
#

Solgaleo hits pretty hard if you can give him +2 crit

swift swan
#

3/5 Hilbert

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or Aaron

marsh crater
#

Hilbert at 1/5

swift swan
#

who's your damage dealer against diantha anyway

marsh crater
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Gonna use solgaleo, colress, hop

swift swan
#

hmm, colress can already buff team crit, no?

marsh crater
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Solgaleo is the main dmg dealer

swift swan
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and solgaleo can max offenses

marsh crater
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Ah i see ur point

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So mina hop and hilbert?

swift swan
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Hop and Hilbert overlap

marsh crater
#

Can i use skyla?

swift swan
#

Mina, Hop, maybe a good speed buffer or another damage dealer who's decently fast

marsh crater
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Mina hop skyla

swift swan
#

because the stage has some special moves too

onyx ice
#

Korinna with super powered 3 ls could be a decent option

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Cs2 is fine too i guess

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Korinna is only held back by the lack of multipliers so squeezing an extra 10% with sp3 can be worth

marsh crater
#

Hmm dont have enough 3* candy

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Dont have enough sync orb too.

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Mina not fully grid

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Korinna is lvl 1

#

Wally is good but he is so hassle to set up

onyx ice
#

Baseline Korinna isn't that great, i guess she's good at 5/5 5*

marsh crater
#

Why need 5/5?

keen jasper
onyx ice
#

Extra bp, and most players have overabundance of 3* candies regardless

swift swan
#

then I guess you're better off offtyping

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or just wait until you can build some more units

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you have until Sunday anyway

onyx ice
#

They don't release much 3* units and when they do generally they give free 5/5

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4* candies are more in need due to trainer lodge

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3* can just be used to save time on units like kali

rotund lagoon
onyx ice
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Yes support is kinda dry

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Once i used lodge stones to 3/5 a support

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While i just dump strikers and tech candies to 5/5 lodge and BP units

marsh crater
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So among this fighting unit. Who should i ex? Korrina, wally 2/5, bea 1/5?

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Or i shouldnt ex em?

onyx ice
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I exed bea

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But 1/5; doesn't have the nuke

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3/5 ex Bea is pretty strong

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Korinna nuke just sucks

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Wally nuke is ok but i guess still needs 3/5 to nuke and is pretty annoying to setup

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Plus Korinna doesn't needs to sync, since her mega isn't mandatory like Pidgeot or Houndoom and doesn't even add that much

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Extra attack is nice but is better syncing with 6ex support than getting mega Lucario attack boost

marsh crater
#

Racking my brain to build a fighting weak team

onyx ice
#

Meanwhile

marsh crater
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What an unexpected team

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2 zone setter?

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So ccalem for ex?

onyx ice
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Greninja was there just for the buffs

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And support ex

marsh crater
#

Oh yea attack buff

onyx ice
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And master passive

marsh crater
#

Kalos huh

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How about using psychic terrain. Off typing with mewtwo

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Biancha

onyx ice
#

That works too

marsh crater
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Since not using em at all this time around

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And i can use agatha to set up more sp def down

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So biancha agatha giovanni

onyx ice
#

But Giovanni needs sp attack support

marsh crater
#

And hypnosis too

onyx ice
#

He has 0 by his own

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Unless you gave him the +2 spa entry skill

stray sentinel
#

Hey I’m trying to see where I can swap in a poison pair and a review of my teams before I start ?

teal siren
marsh crater
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Sabrina at 1/5 tho. While kali all built

silent quail
onyx ice
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Use tm just before metal burst

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So you don't get destroyed with -6 defenses

silent quail
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  1. you need to apply a status asap to Diantha
  2. you "wasted" a cycle by picking Tackle when you could've waited and use Sync right away
  3. you could've also turn-denied by using Iron Head on any side
  4. you need to use TM-Metal Burst combo WITH your Endurance... you can reset for a run where Aurorus doesn't use an AoE move
teal siren
silent quail
#

oh, you DO NEED to status Diantha in this week

stray sentinel
#

Can someone take a peek at my teams MinaSmile

silent quail
#

she has a skill that reduces all damage to 60% if you don't

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but I think that maybe Grim can overcome it hmmm

marsh crater
#

I think gonna ex sabrina

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So my team for wikstrom will be biancha, giovanni, sabrina

onyx ice
marsh crater
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Ah dont have enough champion spirit

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Haih

onyx ice
#

Sabrina is a nice ex

marsh crater
#

If i beat 10k i can have another 25

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Huhu

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The irony

onyx ice
#

Only super Wales or new players struggle with champion spirits

marsh crater
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Yea im new

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Play since 1st jan 2023

onyx ice
#

Regular players normally swim in champion spirits

marsh crater
#

Dont forget sync orb

#

Im always short on em

onyx ice
#

Same for regular players that swim in them

stray sentinel
#

Started in Jan too. Same boat but slowly creeping up

onyx ice
#

I always have 99 999 orbs

marsh crater
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Nothing much can do. This round of cs. I still cant beat 10k

stray sentinel
#

I save my sync orbs

marsh crater
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So many idea to build team

onyx ice
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Except when I get a new unit, but i shortly go back to 99 999

marsh crater
#

But dont have resources

onyx ice
#

Not that i will get several new units in one go

marsh crater
#

Played since beginning is different league altogether in term of resource

onyx ice
#

Definitely

marsh crater
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Thats why i need to efficiently use em right now

#

But still

onyx ice
#

I mean even for day one players is still a game of skipping banners however

marsh crater
#

Ok whatever

#

Just cant do much

#

Gonna sleep it off

onyx ice
#

Isn't one of those games that if you are day one ad dedicated you could get everything

marsh crater
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Or just taking what i can getting 8.5k

onyx ice
#

Stuffs are limited and gems even more

marsh crater
#

Do what i can now

marsh crater
#

I should be playing genshin impact but since the update is getting bigger and my iphone dont have enough storage. I have to abandon the game.

#

Then found a new gacha game called poma. Well here i am

mellow linden
#

Maybe swap Leaf for Cheryl for faster Sp. Atk. buffs as well

lost gulch
#

im surprised this works

#

btw anabel just got one shot from malva overheat (+ 6 strength) with all shields up

proud axle
#

Sun and Charging Sun 5 are a helluva thing.

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Overheat is a very powerful move to boot, and she even has Dauntless so she isn't penalized for spamming it

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So I guess she's doing the same trick as Silver's Ho-oh, but with way higher stats behind it

#

That fight was easiest for me, but I kinda can't say anything because I tossed three hecking Master Pairs at it

mellow linden
#

Imagine if there was a special moves boost parameter this week

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Psychic weak Flint on steroids, probably

proud axle
#

Doesn't she also have Flare Blitz? Phys boost would also be terrifying. """Fortunately""" it's only for Diantha

sand karma
#

I don't have Alder
Why have so many people said they could'nt do 2k Siebold with Alder 1/5 this cs? Isn't he supposed to be top tier bug dps?

prime warren
#

Coz skill issue

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I could do it with SCemmet and stage has sentry entry

manic kiln
#

1/5 is not top tier but enough to clear 2k, just need the right support and choose the right parameters

keen jasper
#

Is top bug DPS SS Hilbert?

sand karma
#

Yep

#

He's like top dps for multiple types kek

prime warren
#

Top bug is Ash
Don't @ me

#

♿♿♿

dark osprey
#

Alder 1/5 is like just ok tbh

keen jasper
#

I wish I had SS Hilbert for -3 water rebuff with Cerena

prime warren
#

Iirc alder's biggest issue is that -3 def from TM

#

But like pre sync clear is recommended anyways

dark osprey
#

His sync isn't great too

prime warren
#

And alder can comfortably do it coz hyper beam spam

#

You just support ex

#

And then focus on mid

#

His TM is +6 spl atk anyways

#

So you'll get hyperbeam running as 2nd move itself in a proper team

dark osprey
#

Yeah. With support ex, special defense debuffs and quadqueues, he just clears it

#

With secondary striker much better

prime warren
#

I don't think you need quad queue either.....a non mega cblue is similar damage range

#

And just targetting mid clears it

#

I don't have alder , neither my friends so cblue is my closest comparison

dark osprey
#

Nov did a video here earlier

#

Hyper beam has been hyped up a bit much I guess

prime warren
#

Not rly

#

It's pretty strong when you set up for it quick

dark osprey
#

Or maybe the rock stages don't have bulked HP

prime warren
#

I basically run setups that lets me use move by 2nd rotation itself for CS

#

Especially if it's support ex reliant

#

If it's sync nuke focus, I just destroy sides and gain more turns anyways so I don't bother fast setups for those runs

dark osprey
#

Yeah. Main thing is crit I guess

prime warren
#

Iirc 1/5 alder's biggest issue is accuracy

proud axle
#

We found out that this week's Wikstrom has comically low speed (whereas the sidekicks have normal speed), so destroying sides could hypothetically make gauges an actual concern for the enemy team for once

dark osprey
#

That's also annoying

prime warren
#

That 90% misses 90% of times somehow PrycePain

#

I always feel that with lance

keen jasper
proud axle
#

Gauge was a big problem...

prime warren
#

Well it's a 4 bar move and you pick the -2 gauge params as well so yea

proud axle
#

Absolutely

dark osprey
#

Oh. I was just trying with Alder, Lusamine and EX Giopersian

proud axle
#

4bar move, with Lusamine spamming a 3bar and Sabrina has a 2bar... until she megas and it becomes 3bar too

prime warren
#

I sometimes avoid -2 gauge params if I run a heavy gauge team
Like with sycamore

dark osprey
#

Was kinda good

prime warren
#

But ig now with freevenge I can stop doing it for him ig

proud axle
#

I think I saw two Freevenge nodes? Was that enough for 100%?

dark osprey
#

Haha. Just one

proud axle
#

Oh okay

prime warren
#

1 freevenge

#

50% chance to proc

#

It's decent enuff

proud axle
#

Maybe I got it mixed up with the other thing... Revenge Boost

prime warren
#

Atleast it lets me use him outside lear and diantha team

#

Coz never been using him outside of those for a long time

dark osprey
#

I think the EX made him much better

#

Grid just slight improvements

proud axle
#

I used him and Lisia against Fairy-weak Drasna this week. I had a rough time until I realized I didn't actually need the third member to survive

prime warren
#

Yea ex made sure I can actually bring headstart on Lear instead of cs2

proud axle
#

(Tried with Piers and then with Ingo)

prime warren
#

Coz lear can't 2 shot offtype sides without CS2

dark osprey
proud axle
#

Sycamore and Lisia are both really tanky. Add the "Fainting reduces the rest of the team's stats," plus Moonblast SpAtk down, plus Lisia blowing away Dragon Zone... and Drasna's sync dealt only two-digit damage WEEZing

#

And Lisia and Sycamore had +6SPDef from his sync too

#

And Lisia was Target #2 and hurting her makes her stronger

dark osprey
#

Moonblast sp atk drops would have been nice too

#

Also Lisias TM durable is really nice

proud axle
#

Absolutely

stray sentinel
#

Ny Lisia or Lisia.

dark osprey
#

After the sync, can survive like 4 turns or so

#

Regular Lisia

prime warren
#

He's saying moonblast so OG

stray sentinel
#

Defog clears zones too !?

prime warren
#

Yes

stray sentinel
#

Fabulous

proud axle
dark osprey
#

But not weather

stray sentinel
#

oh ok

proud axle
#

Defog on turn 1 and then again when the zone comes out

prime warren
#

I remember using lisia for Bertha ebe just for zone wipe

dark osprey
prime warren
#

I often use darach in CS tho

#

Like ghetsis and MR teams

stray sentinel
#

interesting

dark osprey
#

Darach is cooler I guess

stray sentinel
#

he reduces attack too right?

dark osprey
#

Yes

proud axle
#

Without breaking quadqueue

#

...Drasna's Hyper Voice broke the quadqueue anyway though, by hitting Sycamore and proccing things

#

I had to reset until she did something else on the sync turn, so I could land a KO denial on the left.

dark osprey
proud axle
dark osprey
#

But quadqueue I didn't bother since sycamore adrenaline

proud axle
#

I needed the quadqueue to land the killshot on the left in time

dark osprey
#

Ah nice

#

I thought that would be too difficult due to the reactive passives

proud axle
#

Otherwise yeah I'd have just shrugged and let Adrenaline fix it

dark osprey
#

So went ahead and took the enemy sync as well

proud axle
dark osprey
#

Hehe. Mina seems still good with her nuke tbh

#

Can just pre sync

proud axle
#

I've heard. Maybe I'll do that next

dark osprey
#

Ah Nov did a reliable clear just above I guess

proud axle
#

I thought I could presync with this team but then Drasna crushed Ingo. ...I managed to talk myself out of panic-resetting when I remembered she had several SpA debuffs on and she's weak against those

prime warren
#

Dragon rush was PrycePain

proud axle
#

Pretty sure it was Dragon Rush that got Ingo, so those SpA debuffs didn't stop it

proud axle
#

What's Ingo gonna do, Mudslap her acc away? She has Piercing Gaze

dark osprey
#

Sycamore could probably have tanked I guess

proud axle
#

Yeah, but I needed the quadqueue so it had to be someone else as the main target

dark osprey
#

Oh yeah forgot

prime warren
#

He can

proud axle
#

To improve the chances

proud axle
prime warren
#

But sycamore gets bodied if you drag fight

proud axle
#

But if someone else is the target I have two chances at it

prime warren
#

Since no def up

proud axle
#

X Speed and Dragon Rush

#

Even Lisia can get Def Up... LisiaPop

dark osprey
#

Maybe Lisia could have taken the spotlight in between

prime warren
#

I wish sycamore got some way of def up or headstart in grid

proud axle
prime warren
#

Coz I don't want to remove headstart for sentry entry

dark osprey
proud axle
#

I think the shot that killed Ingo was while I was trying to figure out how many shots I needed for the right... So I guess Lisia could have taken the hit. Hm.

prime warren
#

Yea but it feels weird
Since his entire gameplan is syncing asap

#

And he has no headstart or sync Accel in TM

proud axle
#

Yeah, it was an uncomfortable plan

#

It worked eventually but I'd need to refine it or change plans entirely next time

dark osprey
dark osprey
proud axle
prime warren
#

Yea I love freevenge eventho it sometimes ruins quadqueues and stuff

dark osprey
#

Oh yeah. Freevenge is just great

proud axle
#

In this case, Drasna went down long before that happened, but... if she had a few more turns, Lisia would have unleashed i d o l w r a t h on her

dark osprey
#

Lol. Lisia still has her fans

proud axle
#

"Idle hands are the Devil's playthings."
LisiaPop "Sounds about right. These idol hands are gonna send you straight to HELL!"

#

I know, I know, technically it's the Altaria doing it but still

long thicket
#

Well, Post sync parameters for 2k Kalos aren't kind to me right now.

#

I did win against Malva, but mainly because the team members were overkill.

#

And even then, they lost easily before

sand karma
#

Presync is power

zealous karma
#

My gosh

#

That’s with healthy advantage

nocturne pawn
#

me when sonia and mr

#

i wish she was 3/5 so much just one more for crit squad

zinc island
zealous karma
#

I wonder what would happen had diantha ceit hit

nocturne pawn
#

wikstrom was so annoying

#

diantha was a rehash of the palentines event fight but god its still so annoying

zealous karma
#

I have SCDiantha so not smth I can relate too

#

🐴

nocturne pawn
#

i had to use bea and the only way i won was a lucky not full wipe sync

zealous karma
#

Albeit trying to see Buzzma damage just for +3 tenacity to hit the same as one sacred sword was a big disappointment

#

I’m such a whale all my teams except for Buzzma we’re all ex

#

This 3K was easy but I didn’t even attempt trying to on type bug

#

Maybe for the video I will

zealous karma
nocturne pawn
#

she can but i have skill issue and cant quad queue

#

unless i want to use adrenaline on hilbert which i might consider cuz hes really good regardless

#

and has vigilance on grif

zealous karma
#

Hilbert also has flinches

nocturne pawn
#

yeah i have him gridded for aggravation too

zealous karma
#

This week is so fun Omg

bright furnace
paper summit
#

Well, not nothing, it would not be a higher number if Diantha crits him

zealous karma
#

Oh I wasn’t aware, clearly lel

#

I always thought it was damage taken like a true counter

paper summit
#

That's why you want him to ideally be full health, get hit and consume Endure for maximum damage

#

Then his passive activates, you heal and finish off whatever is still alive

zealous karma
#

I see, his damage would’ve been much higher lel

#

He was at like 75% because of echoed voice

nocturne pawn
#

hyper voice is extremely annoying coming off of diantha

#

it hurrs

#

its aoe

#

and like it ruins Bisharp too

zealous karma
#

Mine survived fine but mines Ex

#

Which I only did Ex for the bulk

bright furnace
#

i think 500+ attack if the level is high enough with EX

proud axle
#

(Tabs in)

proud axle
zealous karma
#

I think he’d hit around 86K

proud axle
#

Sonia's Spark (and Hostile Environment in grid) is how I did that fight, in fact

zealous karma
#

I ignored healthy advtabfe In my 2K F2P normal 2K and now my 3K lel

zinc island
#

This was way harder than i would have liked it to be

zealous karma
#

Congratz!

zinc island
#

Thanks

zealous karma
#

Remember to post in #1010274591601598555

#

For the future

zinc island
#

Oh yeah i should also show this to prove its a 10K run

long thicket
proud axle
#

Did you really need to inflict status on Diantha when you were using Solgaleo and an EX Support sync

proud axle
#

Not you

nocturne pawn
#

i know

#

but im saying i also used solgaleo

proud axle
nocturne pawn
#

oh what i did was uh ccalem bugscy and solgaleo

#

sync with ex calem and use scyther to spam leer

proud axle
#

I used CCalem to further crush Malva
I wasn't taking any risks against that moveset

#

Kyogre and both Greninjas

nocturne pawn
#

bro kyogre already neuters her gimmick

#

frogs is actual overkill

proud axle
#

Yes

nocturne pawn
#

like im pretty sure my team didnt even let her get 2 moves off

proud axle
#

I crushed her before my second sync

nocturne pawn
#

i didnt even sync 💀

proud axle
#

It's also three Master Pairs, so I was up to my eyeballs in damage/defense bonuses

nocturne pawn
#

how to instantly ruin water weak

proud axle
#

I couldn't say. I don't have Latios

nocturne pawn
#

yeah but this team is funs

#

start with a round of buffing then all hell breaks loose

zinc island
#

She had healthy advantage didn't she?

#

sighs

proud axle
#

Solgaleo doesn't care

nocturne pawn
#

she does but solgaleo has piercing blows on sunsteel strike

#

meaning its not necessary

#

if anything you just need to drop defenses so the sides dont murder you with tough cookie

proud axle
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Solga's sync does care, but your first sync was with an EX Support anyway

nocturne pawn
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sol sync

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which is also uh

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trash

zinc island
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I just kept doing the same thing until i won ecentualy

proud axle
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Yeeeahhhh

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Maybe it'll get a multiplier with the Alola villain arc

zinc island
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Sunstell spike spike with solgaleo sonia support and colress screech

zinc island
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Also i wasn't able to win for some time and i though what's happening i'm getting so close but yet so far so i took a look at my solgaleo's sync grind and saw i never really messed with it

proud axle
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Ooh, yeah, it gets way better with grid

zinc island
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A lot

nocturne pawn
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or something

zinc island
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I did like 2400 of damage before sync with sunsteel spike

nocturne pawn
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i dont remember

zinc island
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After thw grind i did 3200 or something before sync

proud axle
nocturne pawn
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wait it has sharp entry?

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fuck

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i think i got like the one that gives crit after sync

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which is like 💀

proud axle
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Yeah man, this fixes quite a bit of its problem

grand imp
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anyone got any genius siebold strats that dont use featured units?

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sitting on 2/5 pheromosa and 1/5 burgh and guzma

nocturne pawn
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burgh might work

proud axle
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Guzma is disadvantaged here, Siebold has monstrous phys defense but normal spec defense

nocturne pawn
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just say sentry entry x2

grand imp
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if i use reshiram and blaine + some support?

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what support am i using?

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ik i said no featured units but i conveniently have 1/5 N + reshiram

proud axle
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Hmm... Do you have Lyra/Meganium? She works well with sun

grand imp
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yeah but i think its 1/5 as well

proud axle
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Oof. Hm

grand imp
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yeah this is a pretty ambitious 2k attempt

proud axle
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Ah, my train is here. No reception. Good luck

grand imp
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cheers

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enjoy your trip lol

zinc island
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I used this sync grind for solgaleo

proud axle
# grand imp ik i said no featured units but i conveniently have 1/5 N + reshiram

I think I'd try one of these
N(Reshiram) + Silver(Ho-oh, Cookie for Dauntless and grid for Overheat) + Roxanne, and give Silver every sync so he can continually resummon the sun. Beware, though: Silver's weak to Water
Bianca + Giovanni(Mewtwo) + Sabrina(Alakazam), if Sabrina is 3/5 for Reflect Pep Rally and Dire Hit Critical Squad
Lusamine(Pheromosa) + Burgh(Leavanny) + Sabrina(Alakazam) might work if Sabrina is 2/5 (still has Dire Hit Critical Squad and she and Burgh both raise self speed), but might be risky

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If you already have a solution for Malva that doesn't use these, then maybe
Cyrus(Palkia) + (anyone with Rain Dance, including certain eggmons) + Leaf/Eevee. Palkia's Hydro Pump, with critical hits in rain, is amazingly powerful

grand trout
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Aww i wanna use reshiram next week too

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But wikstrom really would eat special attackers up

grand imp
proud axle
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Oh, Lyra's 3/5? Excellent

grand imp
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sadly i dont have sabrina and used palkia for malvva already but ill see what i can get done tomorrow

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yeah didnt realise

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i think lyra will be the way to go

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just gonna have to make sure the parameters dont get her oneshot

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i always find she's pretty squishy

proud axle
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I'd try giving her a Solarize grid, and run with Reshiram + Ho-oh alongside

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She's got poor phys defenses, yeah. This fight has mixed offense so there is some risk

grand imp
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yeah that should be immensely better than anything else i can do rn

proud axle
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She's really bulky on the special side though

grand imp
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eh i can gamble on no waterfall lol

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the computer seems really strange for this battle though so im not entirely sure what order it queues stuff in

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though this was me trying to sleep cancel for an extra sync so tbh who knows what happens

proud axle
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Right side has Bulldoze and, if Siebold goes down first, Earthquake

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But the damage is split across the party so maybe Lyra will still be okay

grand imp
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i imagine blue flare will knock out the sides eons before starmie

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so yeah thanks for the help

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:)

proud axle
zinc island
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Can you believe i haven't got a single lyra yet?

trail smelt
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MiSSty evaded me for the longest time so yeah

proud axle
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I have a saying for times like that.

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Lady Luck is a sarcastic a-hole sometimes.

crude glen
zinc island
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I got 5/5 misty

crude glen
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who should i use for champ stadium?

zinc island
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And 5/5 erika

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SS i mean

mellow linden
crude glen
mellow linden
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So Hop + Sycamore is a good duo for Legendary Arena (with the 3rd Sync Pair being someone who counters the fight’s gimmick), but for Champion Stadium you’ll want to break them up across multiple teams

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+101 is some basic teambuilding guidelines that I think 1st and foremost should be something to take a look at