I would stop playing geniuenly
#Champion Stadium
prime warren
Well they have enuff gems to roll atleast 2 of the new shiny pairs
Which tend to demolish the game
paper summit
This game is easy but also hard lel
easy to learn, but it has a high skill ceiling
prime warren
So I doubt most newbies have trouble with actually beating ebes
Unless they are zenning from day 1
I doubt any newbie skipped SSLysandre or ssdiantha
void wyvern
It’s enjoyable that you can slowly learn this game and that there isn’t any pair that is super required. It’a casual and less demanding than other mobile games.
paper summit
let's not encourage pulls to clear an EBE
zealous karma
I would stop playing geniuenly
Also I just give up very easy and have a somewhat defeatest added I am sure other players can achieve it, I waited about a mont after playing before staring Cs which I believe my first one was unova
36.6k for 600 fair trade off
prime warren
Well I am talking abt people that start out
void wyvern
Also I just give up very easy and have a somewhat defeatest added I am sure othe...
Same. Unova was my first. I’m happy it was too.
minor blaze
I doubt any newbie skipped SSLysandre or ssdiantha
i just started recently with SS diantha on banner. and havent spent gem since my first 3000
zealous karma
I remember shauntal bullying me
minor blaze
i was thinking to spent all my gem on a OP unit to bulldoze my way there hahahah
prime warren
Well you did get smth out of your 3000 gems
SSblue is free from victory road
That's already 2 runs for CS
zealous karma
i just started recently with SS diantha on banner. and havent spent gem since my...
Did you get her? I didnt see her in your roster so I assume not but if you did she is an easy off typer especially for lower level cs
minor blaze
Well you did get smth out of your 3000 gems
SSblue is free from victory road
Th...
garchomp and Zekrom
prime warren
She can offtype all stages up rn
minor blaze
thats it 🥲
zealous karma
At 3/5 she can beat siebold
minor blaze
will try again
prime warren
I don't got 3/5 
dusty path
i just started recently with SS diantha on banner. and havent spent gem since my...
I mean... Starting out, it might be better to spend some of the gems you get, since you will benefit loads from all the genpool units, but... Of course if you don't want any of the current banners and are trying to save for when there is one you do, you don't have to spend anything
zealous karma
At least she doesnt need 3/5 lel
minor blaze
I mean... Starting out, it might be better to spend some of the gems you get, si...
tbh i want to spend it on pikachu hahaha
dusty path
If you are trying this week's CS, put N on Diantha
prime warren
Oh I am rolling for dupes after seeing anni datamines 
Noway I am leaving her at 1/5
zealous karma
I am going to focus on my f2p clears for now I wll be back
minor blaze
If you are trying this week's CS, put N on Diantha
idk why my N damage is so crap
prime warren
It's just candies are rarer for me
dusty path
tbh i want to spend it on pikachu hahaha
MC Pikachu or Ash/Thunderbolt Red?
prime warren
You have volkner?
void wyvern
I am going to focus on my f2p clears for now I wll be back
Good luck!
prime warren
Zekrom does good damage
minor blaze
You have volkner?
none
zealous karma
ty lel\
minor blaze
Zekrom does good damage
maybe i dont have enought buff and spd buff
thats why i struggle so hard 😢
bright furnace
Okay I finally got the clear with 1/5 diantha lol
zealous karma
Wow Mina sync not critting 4 times in row that is rare
dusty path
idk why my N damage is so crap
He's... not great to start with but as with many units, when you give them levels, EX (eventually), sync grid, lucky skills, they do become pretty damn good
bright furnace
Wow Mina sync not critting 4 times in row that is rare
Skill issue
dusty path
He wants speed and crit support at least
zealous karma
true
void wyvern
Hilbert/Zekrom/Volkner is the og electric team.
zealous karma
until the rats happened]
minor blaze
He wants speed and crit support at least
maybe i will try to EX my SS blue for additional stats
void wyvern
Hop is an acceptable replacement
zealous karma
SSB loves EX
prime warren
I still use him eventho I have rats
minor blaze
Hop is an acceptable replacement
this is what i use everytime
void wyvern
Rats 🤢
dusty path
Hmm I'm not sure SS Blue will need EX, you might want to EX someone else to make CS easier first?
prime warren
I am just waiting for inevitable tapu koko to pair with zekrom
zealous karma
SSb does make cs easier
void wyvern
Ss blue loves ex and support ex’d are amazing.
paper summit
Hmm I'm not sure SS Blue will need EX, you might want to EX someone else to make...
since when a support EX doesn't make CS easier?
dusty path
Yes but another support EX can help another team, SS Blue can probably carry a team without EX so he doesn't have to be your first one
minor blaze
Yes but another support EX can help another team, SS Blue can probably carry a t...
who will be ?
dusty path
since when a support EX doesn't make CS easier?
Since there's 5 battles and he's fine without it, do another or something?
minor blaze
oh crap, i cant even clear cs, how i can i ex ss blue 💀💀💀💀
paper summit
I mean, if you pretend to sync with him, he may as well be EX
dusty path
I mean Rosa XD
rigid flint
Sure he might be fine without it, but with it he provides a big boost to the team
void wyvern
Ex’ing blue is both a good option now and will pay off in the future.
paper summit
which is appealing for the better tanking stats and getting Endure on everyone
dusty path
Yes you're going to EX with SS Blue for endure and better stats
Does no one understand what I'm saying?
zealous karma
Yes finally gpt my mina clear
void wyvern
Yes finally gpt my mina clear
What was the team?
dusty path
A team with SS Blue will be better than just about any other team. Save the EX material to make the other teams better
minor blaze
Does no one understand what I'm saying?
i mean if not SS blue, who is better candidate?
paper summit
oh crap, i cant even clear cs, how i can i ex ss blue 💀💀💀💀
Hard Mode is a bit of a lie, shouldn't be too bad to beat that consistently, the spicy part is Master Mode
zealous karma
What was the team?
Sycamore BPSurge
dusty path
I mean definitely get Skyla up to at least 5*
paper summit
i mean if not SS blue, who is better candidate?
that depends on what other units you have
void wyvern
Sycamore BPSurge
Based
minor blaze
that depends on what other units you have
mostly free units is all i have
keen jasper
Free units is still possible but will take more time
minor blaze
Free units is still possible but will take more time
yea i gave up for now, will try again when i got stronger
zealous karma
Who would you say is more widely avalaible albeit ik the answer CGio or Lblue
prime warren
Lblue
zealous karma
Ye
paper summit
as a beginner at any time
dusty path
Available? CGio was an event, Trainer Lodge is forever
prime warren
yea i gave up for now, will try again when i got stronger
You can do minimal with 850 points
paper summit
Gio is tied to them rerunning that event
prime warren
Don't worry abt 2k too much
paper summit
I always find it silly some newbies are hellbent on 10k...
like, chill the F out lol
the relevant mats for EX are obtainable at 3.9k
which is very manageable
prime warren
Well 2k is doable with a new account
But newbies don't know quad queue or move chaining to begin with
keen jasper
Blue, obviously
I totally didn't chose SS Red from the VR tickets
paper summit
Well 2k is doable with a new account
But newbies don't know quad queue or move c...
yeah, experience is important to make things easier, and of course a newbie lacks that, so it's better not to get into that difficulty right from the start
zealous karma
ghetsus with pb is an underrated f2p off typrtr
cosmic vortex
Available? CGio was an event, Trainer Lodge is forever
They will rerun cgio soon, same day as meowth eggmon event
paper summit
if they manage and start doing it consistently, more power to them, but I definitely don't encourage it
keen jasper
ghetsus with pb is an underrated f2p off typrtr
Ghet-sus can still do it without PB
prime warren
Ghetsis doesn't even need pb to offtype
keen jasper
I mostly used him as a debuffer
zealous karma
Ghet-sus can still do it without PB
Oh I am sure
prime warren
190 BP move 
zealous karma
I dont usually like using pb's but itll be the same without
paper summit
*~~I totally didn't chose SS Red from the VR tickets~~* <:SophoKEK:6819165498120...
huh? we are talking about Blue & Pidgeot, SS Blue doesn't give you access to inviting him to Lodge
keen jasper
huh? we are talking about Blue & Pidgeot, SS Blue doesn't give you access to inv...
My mistake
prime warren
I don't recommend sync nuke ghetsis for newbies anyways
His best performance in budget comps is spamming glaciate
He just asks paralysis bot and it's a 30% boosted 190 BP move destroying everything
nocturne pawn
i dont think sync nuke ghetsis is that hard to setup honestly
prime warren
It's not hard to setup
But it's not impressive damage especially without EX
nocturne pawn
he gets pecking order and devastation can grid double drop on noble roar and all he really needs is someone who can buff spatk and speed which roxanne can do
nocturne pawn
It's not hard to setup
But it's not impressive damage especially without EX
i got 20k off type with him without support/tech ex
prime warren
That in kalos ebe?
prime warren
Oh I meant cs
nocturne pawn
why would you use him in kalos ebe anyway
nocturne pawn
but uh yes that was a cs stage
2k at that
though i had anni n to help with debuffs so maybe thats cheating
but even so quad queue ghetsis could definitely take out mid
prime warren
Anni N nukes offtype better
nocturne pawn
and glaciate spam for sides
nocturne pawn
Anni N nukes offtype better <:SophoKEK:681916549812060200>
ik
i just wanted to use ghetsis
zealous karma
qith increased flinch chance LBlue should have 100 flinch with aggravtion grid correct?
prime warren
Yea you spammed glaciate to set up full spd debuffs
nocturne pawn
its honestly funny how well resh works with ghetsis
nocturne pawn
who
zealous karma
acerola
zealous karma
ground ice type main series for sand
prime warren
I just realised that acerola doesn't have sand castle in grid
Eventho palossand is one
zealous karma
idt it existed as a passive yet]
Finished my F2P clears I’m glad I can get it out so soon
zealous karma
I am dissapointed I had to use a lodge unit I dont like using semi not available F2P's but I will leave a note in the description
zealous karma
I finished my 10k I’m pretty happy. Share yours in the thread lol
Busy day and phone not charging overnite was a pain I have like 3 to share lel
bright furnace
bright furnace
I am dissapointed I had to use a lodge unit I dont like using semi not available...
F2P has too many definitions. As long as you did it, it’s fine with me personally. I know others will disagree
zealous karma
I know gaming eevee uses like lodge cynthia which I think personally is not f2p at all but it stresses me lel
paper summit
it's a bit unrealistic to go with "F2P" only anyway
yeah, Cynthia isn't free at all (not usually that is)
zealous karma
I am afraid of the video reaching someone who does not have the units featured
I think this'll be the last time I sync with sycamore until his PB rerun or for the rest of this month
rigid flint
Heck, people use the legendary BP pairs as "f2p" too sometimes
paper summit
well, those are f2p, they just take a bit to get
zealous karma
I think they are F2P I just would rather not use them over other options as they take a while to get
rigid flint
well, those *are* f2p, they just take a bit to get
Well technically yes, but it is a bit annoying
And yeah it takes quite a while to get them
zealous karma
I consider SSB as F2P as they can get it from victory road, albeit I cannot gurantee soemeone has him I will still use him cause I feel many do still grab him from there
As did I
paper summit
I am afraid of the video reaching someone who does not have the units featured
sure, but on one hand, that's not really your problem, and they can always either get an idea of how to beat a stage by finding an alternative pair they might have, or just look at someone else's clears that might have what they do have, and so on
zealous karma
for example if I had all 3 Kantrio SS's I would still only use one lel
zealous karma
sure, but on one hand, that's not really your problem, and they can always eithe...
Ye true that is what I planned on writing in the discription
bright furnace
I consider SSB as F2P as they can get it from victory road, albeit I cannot gura...
Same. I got him for free. I have a clear conscience lol
zealous karma
One thing I have learned from this community is that some do actually check the descriptions of videos which I personally dont do but I know judging by reading comments people check it
bright furnace
And besides
prime warren
Imagine being able to do actual F2P run
bright furnace
Most F2P clears have the same stuff. Get some variety with lodge pairs
prime warren
When un EX is still not a thing
zealous karma
Only doing it with the true free units
i think would be doable when misty and hop get ex or smth
and the bp's (I dont see them ever getting one)
prime warren
I am never doing F2P runs
paper summit
Most F2P clears have the same stuff. Get some variety with lodge pairs
they are boring AF tbh
prime warren
When I can't un EX my Giovanni or cyrus
bright furnace
Any clear with bugsy and scyther isn’t true F2P 
I missed that unit by 2 weeks ffs and still hasn’t rerun so I’m salty
prime warren
Also I doubt a 5* Roxanne can be considered F2P
zealous karma
I just try to do my best to bring something new to the F2P clears lel
bright furnace
they are boring AF tbh
I agree. I tried it for a couple weeks and I realize the strat is the same
zealous karma
Also I doubt a 5* Roxanne can be considered F2P <:SophoKEK:681916549812060200>
She is fine at 4* byut she was one of my first lel
bright furnace
Like do you realistically want to watch a poison stall lol
zealous karma
I alwats skip and avoid poison stalling
prime warren
Well the problem is the investment is still not doable with relatively new F2Ps
zealous karma
albeit I am pretty sure my ghetsus clear was as long as one
It did not feel like a 3 minute fight
paper summit
I haven't stalled a stage in a long time
prime warren
I can never press Cyrus sync when I am doing F2P run
It's too good to not press even without EX
But mine is EXd so it's a far different result
zealous karma
His sync makes me die
zealous karma
But i usually refrain from using Pb's in my clears
zealous karma
she feels the same for me I have never gotten her to complete 2K along with pre pb silver
bright furnace
I’m still waiting for the 5/5 Calem in the F2P clear 
prime warren
The moment you bring her in F2P run, you can basically throw every event limited free unit except Jessie and James
zealous karma
I’m still waiting for the 5/5 Calem in the F2P clear <:WEEZing:73204436855422989...
I use him with will usually
and SSb
but i dont record those
paper summit
wait, you use Calem in your f2p clears? that's... cheating
paper summit
yes, but Richu's is 5/5...
zealous karma
i dont use him for F2P no
prime warren
I think worse is EX rather than 5/5
zealous karma
I mostly do that in my owbn time
paper summit
hmm, fair about grid, always forget you can just do that lol
zealous karma
Oh ye I do ungrid him ye
bright furnace
I can still use calem in F2P clears lol
paper summit
mine is 1/5, I took a break from the game before his copy was given
zealous karma
I did give Korrina adrenaline for my F2P run, I dont consider that F2P like at allcause a majority of the player base does not even play gauntlet but I dont see how else it would be possible'
paper summit
so he'll remain there forever unless they decide to give those again for whatever reason, which is very unlikely
zealous karma
cause hop is the only unit who can tank the initial zone onslaugjht
bright furnace
Let’s not go down the rabbit hole of specific lucky skills and what not for F2P clears lol
zealous karma
I can and will lel
bright furnace
Like if Oak has mind games 2 like mine is that not F2P clear anymore lol
paper summit
Gauntlet is an event tho, so there is really no reason to put those in that kind of basket
it's just a matter of accessibility rather than being free or not
zealous karma
true
bright furnace
Some are unfortunately very hung up on the definition
Not that I personally care but those opinions exist
zealous karma
I worry about a lot of things about my F2P stuff and about stuff in general I just want accesibility with my clears and ease with the,m
bright furnace
My personal opinion is that the newer folks have to eventually graduate from the F2P stuff so showing unique capabilities from general pool units is also good
zealous karma
Cause I have said this before but I would never put out an F2P clear if even I find the fight way too difficult, I was complaining about the mina one but i got unlucky flinches and para luck, and the malva one I was not flinching but it should be fine if you dont have 1/50 luck
bright furnace
Cuz at the end of the day the only diff is taking away the luck
prime warren
Let's be real
There's no newbie that never gambled even once since they started
So they are bound to have some stuff
bright furnace
Best unit
paper summit
yeah, they'll always have something, the VA stages give enough tickets for 1 pull
bright furnace
5/5 SS Leon
zealous karma
5/5 grid when
paper summit
for each region
bright furnace
True fav right there
zealous karma
in the trash he goes
paper summit
regional tickets, plus rerolling and then a couple of banners later and they'll have a decent roster, not to mention the LA pairs, even without PB they are gonna be good, like always
zealous karma
I pitied ssleon when I was like 5 multis away from it and was 6/5 by that point.......
bright furnace
Unless you’re the weird one who has 5/5 Clement and 0/5 Serena from Kalos tickets
prime warren
Coz I have 3/5 zygarde and 3/5 dialga
zealous karma
Shauna plz come home
bright furnace
SS Leon was 18k. My first banner unit I ever pulled
prime warren
Tbf SSleon was a better roll than stuff that came after him when he dropped
zealous karma
I couldve saved for november sc units crying!
prime warren
It's just the ones that dropped even later made him look pepega
bright furnace
I still feel like I should have had 18k extra gems
prime warren
Hey atleast I can do dragon dps cs now
swift swan
Unless you’re the weird one who has 5/5 Clement and 0/5 Serena from Kalos ticket...
I had 5/5 Clemont and 2/5 Serena for the longest time
swift swan
My third serena came from Cerena scouts smh
zealous karma
It's just the ones that dropped even later made him look pepega
Lear came out the month before him....
prime warren
I personally think ssleon is better than Lear
Lear is scuffed to run 
It's just Bianca happens to be more accessible than lucas
His innate sync mod is the most useless thing in the game
After that oar tile in ldawn's grid
zealous karma
lel
prime warren
We have so many units now that do lear's nuke in aoe
void wyvern
Lear was cool when he came out.
prime warren
He'll be great once again if we get a support ex unit/psychic terrain unit with haze
prime warren
Oh yea
She's a thing 
I wasn't playing back then
So maybe I'll gamble for her when she reruns
zealous karma
I did ye
zealous karma
I posted it on my stage clears
Without sleep but I’m more of a flinch abuser lel
It wasn’t too heavy on it only the last 2 fights they really mattered
frosty axle
I only used it mostly on Wikstrom just to get past the zone
zealous karma
I had to give Korrina adrenaline lel
But Bruno sync was strong enough to nuke center mon
grand pond
do we have teams for wikstrom Without ss characters lol.
dark osprey
Sure. The two folks right above you do F2P runs as well
grand pond
im trying searching but i cant find teams without ssac through keywords 
old orchid
can you show us your fighting roster?
keen jasper
do we have teams for wikstrom Without ss characters lol.
TheGamineEevee
They did a F2P team
keen jasper
And yet you have 5/5 Wally and he also has an expanded grid
grand pond
LMAO I'M TRYING he just isn't hitting very hard
keen jasper
LMAO I'M TRYING he just isn't hitting very hard
Are you buffing him?
grand pond
yay thank u
upper rampart
Hello everyone, new player here. This was my second time clearing Champion Stadium, but after two clears, I'm only barely able to pull 12 of the type medals, with only one new one coming from this week's clear.
This week I felt like I can only clear by relying on the generally strong pairs I have cleared with already. I am doing the mechanics/gimmicks of the fights (e.g. setting up rain to cancel Malva this week) but it's still a bit rough for me clearing without just running the best three pairs I can.
Do I need to be patient as I acquire more resources to upgrade pairs and am able to pull some of my weaker pairs through or am able to acquire pairs that are better quality of the types I need? Or should I be able to do it right now and I need to git gud?
sand karma
LMAO I'M TRYING he just isn't hitting very hard
What moves are you using?
I did it with elio, Wally and Darach
It's easier if you have Ssacynthia
sand karma
Hello everyone, new player here. This was my second time clearing Champion Stadi...
Hard mode is doable with free units
Pair weaker type fillers with stronger damage dealers
grand pond
trying to do focus blast into sync nuke but alas
dark osprey
maybe try with Bea
swift swan
wally's nuke is hard to set up
swift swan
Hello everyone, new player here. This was my second time clearing Champion Stadi...
you need 6 more types, so I suppose you can slot 1-2 filler types in each team and let them be carried by your stronger damage dealers and tanks
grand pond
there is a strong possibility this fight could not be more annoying
sand karma
Are you buffing both his spatk and atk?
grand pond
WHEW
I had to perfect that opener but I did it 2k. thanks!!
i had totally overlooked darach
frosty axle
I had to perfect that opener but I did it 2k. thanks!!
gratz, good luck with the others
old orchid
Solgaleo isnt that bad
grand pond
i GUESS but im not sure how to get it to do more than like 3 damage
old orchid
can you record your gameplay?
grand pond
i cant 
do i need to be quad with solgaleo
cosmic vortex
Solgaleo is nice 
swift swan
i GUESS but im not sure how to get it to do more than like 3 damage
did you max attack? maxed crit? did the sync crit? what was the team member
solgaleo's decent
grand pond
i know i maxed attack im not sure on crit im about to try it again but i cant figure out a third
as far as steel goes I only have these guys
swift swan
maxing crit is crucial
...Hop, Colress, and Steven is literally the recommended team in the tips
not that the tips is a good metric, but the stage is built around colress
swift swan
at 1/5 he already has haymaker which boosts his sync move the more attack is raised
click Hop's TM three times (make sure you get MP refresh) to make sure crit and attack are maxed. whether this is for steven or solgaleo, getting TM MPR on Hop is crucial if you're using him as the sole support. then just... attack away
make sure you triple queue the whole time
grand trout
Has anyone attempted +10k?
grand trout
Solgaleo is nice <:LucianScheme:992636877746217080>
Is this mm?
old orchid
do you know about turn denial?
basically kill the left side before it has a chance to use a move
hot shadow
now i just gotta not get oneshot by her stupid sync <:sobb:823759688242823178>
Do you know what Triple queue is?
old orchid
quad queue is a lot easier than that, but you have to reset for Hop's Freevenge not proccing the turn before your first sync move
grand pond
yes and yes im just stupid and keep fudging my openers
old orchid
reduce the gameplay speed
swift swan
play the game at 1x speed if you're having trouble
grand pond
hop is sooo allergic to proccing mpr
swift swan
Luck issue, happens sometimes
grand pond
SHOUTOUT TO COLRESS
thank you everyone !!!! 
the full 10k forcing me to actually get good lmao
swift swan
grand pond
i honeslty greatly underestimated his syncs use . im so sorry colres s
sand karma
Someone here once said once you discover pre syncing there's no going back and oh boy is that true
dark osprey
it must be Nov
zealous karma
Wally is more self sufficient now wny not try sharp entry grid on bea and do skyla wally bea
Now for me to test out PElesa
grand trout
It sucks i can't use anNi for wikstrom next week
zealous karma
How come?
grand trout
Wikstrom has satisfied snarl
I mean sure but that will be an uphill battle, and kalos mm is already an uphill battle as is
zealous karma
He’ll be fine idk if he has aoe moves but if he has ripple effect can always have an imperious tank
grand trout
I'd just use ss hilda
sand karma
Dauntless Silver time
grand pond
I was able to clear with sing shenanigans ^_^ thank you still!!
grand trout
Wait, pomatools isn't updated for kalos yet?
grand pond
Elio has to be one of the funniest units
grand trout
Elio has to be one of the funniest units
I wish sing fucking hits
sand karma
Wait, pomatools isn't updated for kalos yet?
It is
grand pond
I had wikstrom r4 like an insane person
grand trout
He’ll be fine idk if he has aoe moves but if he has ripple effect can always hav...
Welp, it seems he has struggle bug
So yeahhh
manic mica
thoughts on next week?
manic mica
wait doesnt diantha negate that after one diamond storm?
grand trout
That's not negatable iirc
manic mica
huh
grand trout
You'll need a special rock type
Aka clue or Roxanne
Failing that, off type with a special unit
manic mica
yeah ill prolly just off type
dark osprey
they mean that the defense drops are good enough.
Diantha 3/5 would easily be able to clear even on sentry entry
grand trout
I hope so too lol
grand trout
Diantha 3/5 would easily be able to clear even on sentry entry
Omg?!
manic mica
she's 1/5 
manic mica
ooh
grand trout
Has Aerodactyl and hyper beam
Only dps special rock attack other than roxanne
And you're certainly not using roxanne as dps in mm would you
grand trout
Actually I'd like someone to manage that tbh
I cleared malva last week with roxanne
But that's hard not mm
swift swan
it must be Nov
If there's 1 thing I want to be remembered for, it's doing presyncs or bust. So true
zealous karma
I think Olivia will be fine for next week it’s like if she were off typing but with maybe kukui flinch spam she should be fine
grand trout
I mean I used ct red for aaron despite sentry entryx2 too and he cleared him fine
dark osprey
yeah. Olivia offtype and that too non bulky. should be ok i think
grand trout
But that's red
grand pond
trying to presync with my fat fingers 
manic mica
wikstrom hit harder for me this cs
grand pond
not if you keep hitting the wrong moves 
manic mica
mainly because malva was quite easy for me
dark osprey
ah. i just did one run and Malva overheat under sun knocked out my SSB. but i guess wikstrom hits hard as well
manic mica
oh i had rain in malva
dark osprey
and more annoying due to the zone and ruining quad queue
dark osprey
oh i had rain in malva
yeah. i just waited one turn before setting rain and unfortunately that wasnt good
i guess Malva being water weak gives a lot of OP options
grand pond
I tried to ash troll but I got bored of it
having to actually sit and puzzle out diantha was a ride thou
dark osprey
u mean with the status for damage?
grim bison
Rock weak malva has sentry x2 right
dark osprey
yes
grand pond
yeah sorta
if I would've figured out colress was actually useful like an hour earlier then I wouldn't have struggled half as much
dark osprey
oh. i want to make use of Coloress too. just used him for paralysis this run tbh
is urs 3/5+?
grand pond
Yes lmao
Just rolling around in the back of my drawer collecting dust
she didn't even stand a chance
grand pond
Yeah I saw that in the recommend teams
If I had him built I might've given it a shot but
dark osprey
just that u would need another status applier
dark osprey
just wanted to check since there was a debate about this earlier, how good is 1/5 Alder for Siebold this week?
swift swan
I ran him with ss hilbert which is understandable but even before his existence, alder and lusamine can wreck any bug stage including Sidney's big bulk so I can't imagine Siebold being much different
dark osprey
ah yeah. i think along with Lusamine, its probably better. with him as the sole damage dealer, it does seem kinda underwhelming.
nocturne pawn
gradual healing is annoying but hes not that bad
dark osprey
also bought in Lucian for sp defense debuffs
zealous karma
I think drasna is my new favorite initial sync animation
keen jasper
She dies to simple hyper voice <:PrycePain:971377771987206154>
Malva? Hmmm
dark osprey
i guess Zinnia, Winona and Surgechu or something
keen jasper
She dies to simple hyper voice <:PrycePain:971377771987206154>
Winona + Zinnia + buffer
dark osprey
yeah she sucks
prime warren
She gets destroyed 
keen jasper
Blame her Tm
dark osprey
hope for rng for not much aoes then probably
nocturne pawn
this cs has a frustrating amount of aoes
prime warren
Ugh
nocturne pawn
like
keen jasper
She gets destroyed <:HildaCry:596507965947641866>
Does the Hyper Voice happen under sun?
prime warren
Imma give up then
nocturne pawn
malva and siebold dont have aoes
prime warren
No
nocturne pawn
everyone else does
keen jasper
I see, so she's that weak then
dark osprey
malva too has them
prime warren
Malva has aoe
dark osprey
maybe not sielbold i guess
dark osprey
oh so u bought the aoes
prime warren
Archie 2 shots the sides after support ex
nocturne pawn
it was like
nocturne pawn
2 rounds of muddy water and origin pulse
and team smart entry is hype
also maxed hoenn spirit
full mesa
We definitely talk about Hoenn level of difficulty. It's going to be hard.
swift swan
Someone asked about 1/5 Alder clearing Siebold as the sole damage dealer. I just did it with Alder, EX Elio, and Lucian. Granted mine was EXd but it should be doable without EX too
Uploading the video rn
swift swan
You can take off no status conditions so Elio can sing on sides to avoid AOE slaughter if your Alder isn't EXd
dark osprey
Ah. Yeah. Did get similar results with SS Morty instead of Elio for the center but couldn't quadqueue the hyper beam after the second sync
swift swan
Dual striking with lusamine and a good speed support should be much more comfortable
dark osprey
Hmmm. Yeah. Lusamine sync and that 3 sync boosted hyper beam should do some decent damage
lapis trench
Is it me or malva recks my tank in 2 turns??!!
keen jasper
Is it me or malva recks my tank in 2 turns??!!
Sun + Charging Sun 5= 100% extra damage
lapis trench
Ok thank you
clever breach
What team could best diana
rotund lagoon
So this is Diantha, final match, correct?
clever breach
Yes
rotund lagoon
So you need a damage dealer with a Support to buff them and the third unit should be a status condition inflictor.
sand karma
They have Solgaleo
clever breach
Yeah i tried it with solgaleo hop and a thrid unit i cant remeber
rotund lagoon
Did you have a status inflictor?
sand karma
Is this hard mode or 2k?
rotund lagoon
She has Healthy Advantage 4.
clever breach
2k
sand karma
Hmm no ex support
clever breach
Yeah used all my good supports in the rounds before
rotund lagoon
I think Solgaleo just needs Speed/Gauge and Crit.
undone brook
maybe level hop and solgaleo mc a bit?
sand karma
Might be possible with Hop, Roxanne and Solgaleo
Dps on centre nuke on sides
rotund lagoon
I’ll check for other multipliers.
rotund lagoon
Might be possible with Hop, Roxanne and Solgaleo
Dps on centre nuke on sides
I have to stop you there.
Healthy Advantage 4
sand karma
Solgaleo has piercing blows on sunsteel strike
rotund lagoon
Here’s also my issue tho. Solgaleo needs Crit.
sand karma
Hop
clever breach
So maybe upgrade hop and solgaleo and try with roxane
rotund lagoon
So maybe upgrade hop and solgaleo and try with roxane
Are Hop and Roxanne available?
clever breach
Yeah
rotund lagoon
Try them.
clever breach
The pictures are from the last screen
Every unit is available
That i screenshoted
sand karma
Get hops grid and upgrade him make him main tank
Use sols tm once and hops tm thrice
Roxanne also needs grid to max speed with mp refresh
rotund lagoon
The pictures are from the last screen
You’re doing CS, which means there are units you used.
clever breach
Yeah
rotund lagoon
If you’re at Diantha, that means you used 12 units.
prime warren
If anni N is available use him for diantha fight
rotund lagoon
Gotcha.
clever breach
Dont anni n and ghetsis lower the same stats
rotund lagoon
Smth like anni N, ghetsis, Roxanne
This works as well.
prime warren
Ghetsis sets up for anni N
rotund lagoon
I’m sliiightly worried about Solga’s power.
rotund lagoon
Hence why I said slightly
clever breach
The only problem i find is that roxane dies pretty quick
dark osprey
It's hard right? Not mm?
prime warren
So no reason to worry
rotund lagoon
It's hard right? Not mm?
MM
dark osprey
Oh then probably get special defense buffs
prime warren
She can tank 3 hits easily
rotund lagoon
Also Roxanne can Wide Guard Diantha’s Icy Wind.
clever breach
So this?
rotund lagoon
Change your tactics…
rotund lagoon
You can edit messages
prime warren
Oh yea I just noticed SSerika being free....
You can also do SSerika, anni N, Roxanne
If ghetsis isnt comfy enuff for you
clever breach
Oke
rotund lagoon
prime warren
Yes Roxanne had grid for a while
rotund lagoon
Use this grid 
thin pecan
Jesus how do you beat the bug guy
That Starmie is literally invincible
I have the bug gundam
But she still doesn’t die
Does he need to be like more than 1/3
swift swan
1/5 genesect is fine
main crow
Sentry entry makes it so it has double the base stats
thin pecan
She’s at -6 and just lives
main crow
Oh wait bug gundam, thought you meant Golisopod there
swift swan
1/5 genesect is fine
...well, I assume this is what you meant by bug gundam
thin pecan
Gilbert
swift swan
The battle is meant for him
main crow
He should be fine, it's made for him
thin pecan
What teammates
swift swan
Pair him with a speed support
thin pecan
Yeah skyla
swift swan
The third can be a secondary damage dealer with high speed
thin pecan
Or blue I tried both
swift swan
Make sure hilbert buffs his own crit and techno blast away
thin pecan
What would his rotation be
void wyvern
I’d recommend a crit support for Gilbert so you can cycle his tm early on for SEUN.
swift swan
https://youtu.be/ewIELgfsz5U this is not vs Siebold and of course he has higher bulk, but same principles apply
1/5 EX SS Hilbert
I'll record vs siebold tomorrow maybe, if needed
thin pecan
What is SEUN
swift swan
Super effective up next
An extra multiplier to your super effective moves/sync moves/max moves
thin pecan
Does that one stack
swift swan
One time only
thin pecan
I always don’t know which ones stacks and which ones don’t
So use that then attack then use again?
swift swan
If it has a number next to the icon, it stacks
thin pecan
Don’t double use?
swift swan
Yeah, don't double use
rotund lagoon
<:speup:1009476114672013372> does stack
also does not apply to sync while 
does for both regular and sync moves.
rotund lagoon
You’re doing pre-sync params?
thin pecan
Yeah should I not be
rotund lagoon
Oh I just wanted to make sure lol
rotund lagoon
Well…you should not use the same one every time.
Its good to learn how to readjust depending on your teams.
main crow
Don't most of Kalos CSMM kinda comes down to "lol you ain't gonna presync this nuh uh"
rotund lagoon
Don't most of Kalos CSMM kinda comes down to "lol you ain't gonna presync this n...
I think so, yea
I haven’t done MM this week yet.
You’re using the team in the video @thin pecan ?
full mesa
SCLillie/Burgh/BPJanine (yeah, I know. I used SCLillie but still) was able to do R3 Siebold quite easily. Even without quadqueue (curse you propulsion 4).
full mesa
Also you can off type if you feel like it. I did it against Drasna on R4. Dual Frogs and Sidney. No good fairy in roster.
rotund lagoon
Blue burgh and Hilbert
Wait Lodge or regular Blue?
full mesa
2 stages where we had to remove zones and 1 with weather. In the same week. That was Hoenn flashbacks.
proud axle
I mean, for Water weakness, you would probably be using weather anyway
thin pecan
Wait Lodge or regular Blue?
Regular one
Blastoise
Reset for triple proc on his crit+1 and then adrenaline sync with him into Hilbert sync on 2
And just threw out attacks with Burgh in the mean time
Honestly should’ve used Burgh on the sides had I know Hilbert would do a 32k
I tried to use Guzma before but that sucked because of the defense ti physical
So Hilbert was worth the investment
Can’t imagine doing that stage with Burgh or Lusamine
rotund lagoon
Regular one
Blastoise is not regular, that’s SS Blue.
full mesa
Can’t imagine doing that stage with Burgh or Lusamine
I did it with Burgh but mine is ex.
nocturne pawn
Don't most of Kalos CSMM kinda comes down to "lol you ain't gonna presync this n...
a lot of them actually wsnt you to pre sync. kalos cs is very anti post sync
frosty axle
a lot of them actually wsnt you to pre sync. kalos cs is very anti post sync
you won't die if you do post sync thankfully they don't hit that hard
nocturne pawn
you won't die if you do post sync thankfully they don't hit that hard
me when drasna with draconic force 4 and dragon zone pre sync
2.2k dragon rush
full mesa
Yeah. That was op even on hard mode.
stray sentinel
How do you guys recommend we tackle these champions. In what order ?
civic trellis
But he’s also physically bulky iirc
rotund lagoon
How do you guys recommend we tackle these champions. In what order ?
Do whichever order suits your teams best as long as you avoid the ones told in the pins.
civic trellis
Ye he has sentry entry x2 I think
Personally I did drasna r4 bcz I used ss wally and the opponent needs to be confused to debuff
zealous karma
Anyone got a zinnia F2P comp for the CS?
Would not recommend her for F2P off typing with perma field or perma clinch
rotund lagoon
They changed the properties of healing down in MM?
?
craggy glade
Apparently it doesn't affect the amount you heal from passives anymore
Only reduces the heal from moves
Like potions and TMs
rotund lagoon
Apparently it doesn't affect the amount you heal from passives anymore
From end of Jan update.
full mesa
That's a buff. Nice.
grand steppe
You can thank Mallow 
eternal lodge
Expecting next week to be p easy
zealous karma
Finished uploading and writing the description for my F2P guide 
meager agate
there's a "shrimp fried rice" joke somewhere in using siebold to beat malva and idk if anyone has made it yet but i got no idea what it'd sound like
manic mica
you're telling me that a shimp fried that rice?
meager agate
yes
dusty path
||But it failed!||
hazy tusk
there's a "shrimp fried rice" joke somewhere in using siebold to beat malva and ...
You're telling me a shrimp steamed this sir lion steak?
marsh crater
How u guys beat wilkstrom?
I use bea, ss diantha, skyla. Almost had it at 1.2k. Full def and hp para.
dark osprey
oh. firstly you shouldn't be using full defense & HP parameters
also need to try and out heal or avoid the damage in steel zone
marsh crater
I can survive first sync if use that parameter
And cant survive first sync if got some attack or strenght para
dark osprey
should try and pre sync to be honest
marsh crater
Cant presync. Never manage to do it
old orchid
sadly you cant quad queue
cuz Steel Zone
either use sync acceleration or replace the zone
marsh crater
Already replace the zone
With ss diantha. But then she weak to steel. First sync she still dies even without steel zone
Only got bea for my physical striker
dark osprey
or go for the easy way out. can use a sleep mon instead of Bea
marsh crater
Sleep mon?
dark osprey
then just queue sleep on the 3rd move
marsh crater
Serena delphox?
dark osprey
yeah she is viable
also like agatha, Ramos, egg tech bulbasaur, egg tech weepinbell, egg tech exegcutor
i prefer single sleep mons
its easier to control
there's a few more as well i guess
Elio as support is also fine with troublemaker lucky skill
marsh crater
So keep them sleeping. Replace with bea. Then kill em with who?
dark osprey
oh sorry i thought u mean SC Diantha
my bad
then replace SS Diantha I guess
it may be slightly difficult on gauge but better to take all attack parameters especially since 1.2k pts
u can afford more attack params
marsh crater
Ok ill try the sleep thingy
dark osprey
just keep no stat condition param off
hope your Bea is 3/5+
so that u have max crit
marsh crater
My bea is 1/5
Forgot to mention
I have wally gallade at 2/5 tho
Have bruno at 4/5. Thats it
swift swan
Bea 1/5 will be DPS-reliant, and you need to bring an extra crit buffer
marsh crater
My fighting choice is not that much
old orchid
hmmm i think 2/5 Wally is better here
marsh crater
Solgaleo i want to put with diantha
marsh crater
Wally 2/5 then?
swift swan
Get a support who can buff him faster
marsh crater
Buff crit?
old orchid
oh btw, do you have Lucian? Any move level is fine
swift swan
That, and both attacks. Iirc his sync is physical but his main DPS is special
marsh crater
Lucian?
old orchid
yeah
swift swan
and girafarig
old orchid
the guy with Girafarig
marsh crater
old orchid
do you plan to use SSB elsewhere?
marsh crater
SSB?
swift swan
Ss blue
old orchid
Sygna Suit Blue
marsh crater
I think no
old orchid
great
swift swan
What will the plan be for diantha then? Offtype?
marsh crater
Diantha plan for solgaleo and hop
Omg
Now sogaleo used
Hmm
My steel roster also not much
formal vigil
You could try wikstrom/moylane or even better kimono grimsley (if you have) for diantha or just offtype
old orchid
well can try with Wally instead of Solgaleo on Wikstrom first
swift swan
What steel units do you have
swift swan
well can try with Wally instead of Solgaleo on Wikstrom first
I agree, try wally first
Wally lucian ssb
Hmmm
swift swan
Colress my man
old orchid
is 1/5 Grimsley enough 
marsh crater
Colress seems good for diantha also
swift swan
Metal burst should still do numbers... 
swift swan
Colress seems good for diantha also
He's meant for diantha
formal vigil
Should be just have to time metal burst right
swift swan
The battle revolves around his kit
marsh crater
Should be just have to time metal burst right
What grimsley?
swift swan
Kimono grimsley
paper summit
is 1/5 Grimsley enough <:HilbertHmm:625860604347023360>
yes, my Grimsley is 1/5 and he evaporated that Aurorus
swift swan
So hop grimsley colress for diantha?
You can give that a try
So solgaleo can go to wikstrom
marsh crater
So wally or solgaleo
swift swan
marsh crater
Ok either way i need to beat wikstrom first
old orchid
none of them
Siebold has Sentry Entry x2 which doubles his base defense
do you have Lusamine and Burgh?
drifting sleet
Yeah but Lusamine dies very fast no?
Like she more or less can't survive a sync?
old orchid
you can use both to form a dual strike core
if you feel not so confident, use a strong offtype special dmg dealer
lost gulch
ok i tried anabel on drasna strgth 6
she really heavily relies on shields
and even that her tanking is not as strong as what i expected to be
zealous karma
Interesting
dark osprey
ah nice. Anabel did seem quite iffy and seems like it in practice as ewll
also no on demand healing sucks
lost gulch
this team can offtype
lost gulch
also no on demand healing sucks
the trick is to make use of protect to stall until 1st sync and then use max move to restore its health by then
but that would make it complicated as a generic support
which is also reason why i go for 4/5 so at least theres some incentive to do all that complicated set up
dark osprey
lol yeah. that sounds very complicated ngl
i personally still am not used to using max moves without the countdown reduction
i think one has to quad queue to use max moves without the messing the countdown right?
4/5 & 5/5 seem nice true
but still barely pokefair level support i think
full mesa
this team can offtype
Is that the new snorlax?
full mesa
but still barely pokefair level support i think
It's more of a tank than a support. Applies walls and some stats but it's mostly there to take hits. That's how I feel about its kit. Nonetheless I got her at 3/5 so now I have to build her.
dark osprey
Agree. But I guess 3/5+ is quite good
full mesa
It definitely is but I don't think it's a good idea to postpone my CCalem anymore.
dark osprey
this team can offtype
Honestly feel Ciris is quite underrated. Not just the nuke, the ability to debuff the enemy while dealing that damage and also piercing gaze is really nice
Incapacitates the enemy
dark osprey
It definitely is but I don't think it's a good idea to postpone my CCalem anymor...
Hmmm. Yeah. Calem seems much better
Maybe for some very defensive Extreme battle Anabel. But that's not the norm
lost gulch
i personally still am not used to using max moves without the countdown reductio...
her max move honestly isnt the issue
u can quickly slide in the tm
like a quad queue surprisingly
lost gulch
Honestly feel Ciris is quite underrated. Not just the nuke, the ability to debuf...
my ciris is just 1/5 for the debuffs
dark osprey
Yeah figured
dark osprey
like a quad queue surprisingly
Yeah. Just me. Bad at quad queuing
lost gulch
put double speed
full mesa
Or for LG. She's a huge tank and can support less viable units. Also I feel like she can easily fit in almost any team on CS if you have a decent Striker and an average stat boosting support. Finally Aggravation is always helpful.
full mesa
Depends on your smartphone. Personally I put 0 speed on the quadqueue turn.
full mesa
Why not?
full mesa
Yeah but listen to me. Flinch 'em!!!!
full mesa
I know. She needs a universal speed buffer
lost gulch
i purposely grid accelerate 3 because shes just too damn slow
full mesa
Or something with mga
I was really surprised with Burgh. Yes, I use SCLillie alongside him but even then he did quite well taking down Siebold on pre-sync.
dark osprey
put double speed
oh yeah that actually helps for me. but then i'm too slow with normal moves honestly am just lazy
dark osprey
anabel is slow
oh yeah. and she has to use a 2 gauge move as well
whenever
she does
or a 3 gauge
sand karma
I'm scared of next week
Thinking of Bertha, Clue, SSDiantha for Malva
Grid them for sand shelter
Since she has only 17k hp hope to get rid of her asap before i start having gauge issues
But clue will probably spend one cycle just buffing
rotund lagoon
Sand damage is not the biggest deal in the world.
Why worry about that when you have a good team and the enemy is down?
proud axle
Sand damage runs down the clock on Sandstorm... but I feel like Sand Shelter isn't enough because you can't prevent the enemy from taking the sand damage and running down the clock
I can see Sand Shelter mattering if you're counting on Endure for something, somehow
sand karma
Malva hits really hard so i don't want to take chances
proud axle
Fair. Or should I say Flare?
rotund lagoon
I’d rather try it, see what goes wrong, then do the necessary upgrades.
proud axle
You have cBlue so you have the one thing that bullseyes her weakpoints
sand karma
They both are 1/5 so i don't have any other grid priority anyway
rotund lagoon
I have C Blue as well, been a long time since I used him.
rotund lagoon
Roark
proud axle
I've heard good things about his grid, and it lands a day or two before that week cycles out
rotund lagoon
Mine is 2/5
Wait
I meant to say that about C Blue, not Roark
Roark’s grid upgrade is amazing
sand karma
Too bad Malva has sentry entry
Building ice teams for poisoning stages is a headache
I will need to use Ghetsis teams with status removal like sycamore or Calem but he needs so much setup its better to post sync which I'm not fond of anymore
Presync should be possible with Hilbert, Hala and Candice but the toxic needs flinch rng and if they hit too hard Bertie will say bye bye
Stat reduction reflect on poison weak stage is straight up bullying
rotund lagoon
I will need to use Ghetsis teams with status removal like sycamore or Calem but ...
C Calem does not have status removal, he has immunity.
On water sync.
sand karma
Potato potato
rotund lagoon
Also what’s wrong with a speed debuffer, Sycamore (or a status healer/immunity) and an ice damage dealer?
Ghetsis can even do both the speed and damage.
sand karma
His pecking order setup takes one cycle
rotund lagoon
Hmmm, Lucian?
Attack and Sp Df debuffs.
Fairy isn’t a thing next week, Mina can work too.
Oh! Hang on.
Is your Ghetsis gridded for Double Drop?
sand karma
Yeah
rotund lagoon
You can always have debuffing help too.
sand karma
I'll try using Bede and hopefully with some lowered sp def he can presync
sand karma
Hmmm, Lucian?
Wish i had him
Favourite e4
rotund lagoon
Oofs
Mina then, she can debuff Attack.
onyx ice
What is malva gimmick?
onyx ice
Ok maybe rain offtype
Don't have c blue so special offtype is the same as physical on type
zealous karma
Dying
bright furnace
Oof
zealous karma
Malva hits so hard lel
tribal agate
i think you need to remove the sun
tribal agate
i think you need to stop abusing ATK parameters and try STR
zealous karma
I only use strength lel
tribal agate
i think you need to use better pairs
zealous karma
That’s a. Fair argument
zealous karma
Trying to use my units from date acquired
bright furnace
onyx ice
Even 1/5 SS diantha can make Tyrannitar shine
Or it's more that Brock helped diantha clear the sides before 6ex support sync so she managed to land a full blast single target b diamond storm with +1 physical move next
Then he finished it wit single target rock slide
Even if Brock almost screwed the run with damn rockslide flinch
trail smelt
Trying to use my units from date acquired
lol why
paper summit
Because memes
zealous karma
I also like challenging myself lel
paper summit
And yet you cry, smh
zealous karma
crying is fun\
bright furnace
u gonna keep trying with that trio, richu? lol
zealous karma
u gonna keep trying with that trio, richu? lol
I dont really know lel
hidden ore
Drasna on r4 is bad?
marsh crater
Finally beat drasna at 1.4k using ss diantha
Still figuring out how to beat siebold with ss lysandre
marsh crater
Malva already beat with frog duo and maypert
hidden ore
I beat Siebold with Lodge Dawn + Ss Hilbert + Aaron
hidden ore
Alder or Emmet could do
marsh crater
Tried to poison stall. Omg his regen
grand trout
Doesn't he have sentry entry x2?
hidden ore
Alder or Emmet could do
Sc Emmet
marsh crater
This is the most absurd bug weak
grand trout
Do you have lusamine? Or burgh
marsh crater
None of that
hidden ore
No alder too?
grand trout
Viola ?
marsh crater
The one with struggle bug and infestation?
hidden ore
Yes Viola, she amazing
grand trout
But i don't think she can clear siebold anyways
marsh crater
Hmm
marsh crater
Her debuff is damage