#Champion Stadium

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swift swan
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Just for a few seconds so you can quadqueue better

keen silo
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that person probably plays osu

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on ipad

toxic cobalt
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Find a time with effects that trigger on entry for extra time

keen silo
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like ssa cynthia

swift swan
nocturne pawn
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wait so stuff that triggers on hit makes quad queueing harder right

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so basically ss blue with adrenaline is a necessity?

toxic cobalt
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Makes it impossible

swift swan
nocturne pawn
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oh

ancient lava
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Man, I always die at first sync

toxic cobalt
swift swan
toxic cobalt
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You need to triple queue

nocturne pawn
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i barely survived 2k karen

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idk how

keen silo
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||I didnt||
but yeah presync

nocturne pawn
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probably cuz my bea is ex’d and 140

toxic cobalt
swift swan
ancient lava
swift swan
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You're using presync params on pins, right?

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Were you triplequeueing

ancient lava
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I do masked royale speed buffs + brutal swing, bea +4 attack then meteor, hop crit + attack buff then metal claw

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Yup, triple queueing + presync params

nocturne pawn
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i love it when my hilbert gets 350 dmg thunder fang to the face and then dies to karen ruining my entire run

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:)

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i should probably use mr instead of solgaleo but im stubborn

swift swan
toxic cobalt
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That doesn’t sound like triple queuing

swift swan
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Can you record the first few seconds of your battle? Just in case

nocturne pawn
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doesnt bea get critical focus

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oh wait 1/5

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durr

swift swan
nocturne pawn
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never mind

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i meant on grid

swift swan
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She just wants +1 more crit

nocturne pawn
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but that wouldnt help anyway

toxic cobalt
swift swan
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Hop covers her offensive needs, with or without her full grid

toxic cobalt
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Soft thingy

nocturne pawn
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yeah but he has hilbert

swift swan
nocturne pawn
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and i think he’d be faster vs hop

toxic cobalt
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Ah true

swift swan
nocturne pawn
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cuz tm is +3

nocturne pawn
swift swan
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No crit squad

nocturne pawn
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so i thiught critical focus could help

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but uh

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grid locked so SidneyYippee

toxic cobalt
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Just Hop to it

swift swan
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Hop/Bea/Masked Royal is fine. We just need to make sure they're properly triple queueing

magic crown
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Anyone used Lucian this week

nocturne pawn
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i used lucian on bruno

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to absolutely destroy him with ss steven

swift swan
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Cries in 1/5 lucian

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He's just a free debuffer and gauge unit for me

nocturne pawn
keen silo
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my brain automatically went to sabrina gio and bianca

nocturne pawn
keen silo
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so i didnt

cinder summitBOT
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Team Viral Hustle 9

Raises the Speed of all allied sync pairs by one stat rank when the user's Pokémon uses a status move.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

10176000000 Lucian & Girafarig

nocturne pawn
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oh that

magic crown
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His nuke is really fun

swift swan
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Lucian has that on base

nocturne pawn
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its kind of slow though

swift swan
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It's fine still, I use him for LG generally

nocturne pawn
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charging infliction is such good utility though

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its actually so nutty

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+1 gauge each growl use which also debuffs 2 stats at once

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now imagine if he got double drop

magic crown
swift swan
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Once sinnoh tickets decide to give me more lucian dupes instead of my 20th fantina, maybe LucianScheme

nocturne pawn
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f

swift swan
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I'll try using him to nuke in LG, at least

nocturne pawn
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yeah this guy’s grid is nutty

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super preparation dominating sync 2 and 6 +25 sync nodes

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and charging infliction as stated above

magic crown
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Oh I forgot about the super effective up I'mma go try that out

toxic cobalt
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Wait what

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When was damage uncapped

nocturne pawn
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a few updates ago

nocturne pawn
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get fk’d bruno

swift swan
toxic cobalt
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I vaguely remember

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Maybe

molten nimbus
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new cap is 1M damage

keen silo
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162k 😮

magic crown
toxic cobalt
swift swan
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(of course he did)

keen silo
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ash already hits 110k casually

swift swan
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999,99
9

keen silo
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9,999,999 next

magic crown
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Did anyone use the 2 frogs this week I feel like those 2 can clear any stage

austere quest
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Yes

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I did

ancient lava
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2 frogs

nocturne pawn
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they can

keen silo
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used it on lance

austere quest
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Used it for Will

keen silo
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bc i used it on champ last week and was lazy

magic crown
sand karma
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I used them with Nessa on will
But Nessa was chomping health left and right Cerena had to sync on the half health side

magic crown
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She can't even benefit from dragon zone

keen silo
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didn't use 2 pikas this week

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but i also dont think ive used f2p electric ever, unless n and zekrom are considered one

swift swan
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N should never be considered f2p what

nocturne pawn
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the real f2p electric is mcchu

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cuz thats what i used for a while

sand karma
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I wish there were some other non limited electric damage units
I'm bored of wiping electric stages with Ash
(Don't say Hau in terms of dps he has no dps)

nocturne pawn
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my electric is still copium

keen jasper
nocturne pawn
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wait actually

keen silo
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only electrics ive used for main dps are n and pikachus
i got n pretty early on in game and i dont really remember how

nocturne pawn
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expanded zebstrika is usable for dps right

swift swan
austere quest
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Yes

sand karma
austere quest
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Or Nuke

swift swan
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Elesa's getting grid expansion so you can use her Wild Charge now

keen jasper
swift swan
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And there are 2 Sophocles

keen jasper
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Steadfast 9 IIRC

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Still, I'm waiting for triple Steadfast 9

austere quest
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I would say that SSTR+SSteven+Frogs has set me up for CS Offtyping

keen silo
swift swan
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Nah, f2p electric is fiiine

nocturne pawn
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i have anni n and ss steven for off type cs

austere quest
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I also used SSHilda

nocturne pawn
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thankfully theres only like 2 fights i cant handle on type for csmm

sand karma
nocturne pawn
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usually

sand karma
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Poison? Fighting? Rock?

austere quest
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I think that Gen Pool has good options for Grass and Water

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Like the best options

nocturne pawn
austere quest
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For F2P

nocturne pawn
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until elesa gets her expansion

nocturne pawn
sand karma
austere quest
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True

keen silo
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water has a lot for f2p

austere quest
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May carrying Water in Gen Pool

nocturne pawn
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brendan + ss erika terrorize grass weak and water has may which also has a good lodge and kris

austere quest
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Psychic with Lucian and Bianca also good

sand karma
keen silo
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lodge may, silver as well as kris totodile

austere quest
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Dark has some very solid options in Gen Pool too

nocturne pawn
nocturne pawn
austere quest
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Nothing for Poison/Fairy though I feel

ancient lava
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Sweet lawf

keen silo
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Silver can terrorize grass too with ss erika, even though he's more for fire

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if there's no fire cs, that duos coming out

nocturne pawn
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fairy only has mina

austere quest
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Sycamore is the best Fairy Striker

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Fair

ancient lava
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Now just need to do karen

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i h8

magic crown
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Jesus I just obliterated this stage and I'm shocked from the damage from nessa this was a max hp run

sand karma
ancient lava
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how come?

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isn't dark pulse the only additional effect move she has?

sand karma
austere quest
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Flinching

nocturne pawn
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she has bite pre sync

ancient lava
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ah fuck

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is2g im pulling the next fighting type striker they're throwing out

sand karma
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Do you have 3/5 Sonia?

toxic cobalt
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Solgaleo Wally Korrina Bruno are all available and easy

nocturne pawn
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what about bea

sand karma
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Bea is best

toxic cobalt
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Oh yea

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Bea

sand karma
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Wait Hilbert 2/5 should be fine for Bea

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Do you have ex SsBlue?

old orchid
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Bea? Havent used her for months SerenaSip Solgaleo is funnier to use

ancient lava
molten nimbus
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or no crit buff

magic crown
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No Sonia is fine 1/5

ancient lava
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3/5 is the one with crit unfortunately

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No Sonia either

magic crown
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Jk

sand karma
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I think Hilbert+ SSBlue + Bea should work

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I did it but both supports were ex

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My bea is also 1/5

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It would be nice if one was ex

formal vigil
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Why both hilbert and ss blue?

sand karma
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Her gauge is too slow

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The Accel+full speed helps queue on time

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Hilb gets xspeed refresh at 2/5 itself

nocturne pawn
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also blue has crit

sand karma
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Yeah so no need of critical squad

formal vigil
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Never really have guage issues when I use bea though I guess cc9 helps with thatLanceShrug

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Plus I don't remember her guage being that bad before I got her to 3/5

sand karma
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The mga helps hilb finish buffing her asap before picking up speed tms
And after first sync with both going, they can all queue moves comfortably

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The only other 4 bar user i have is Lucas and he doesn't need gauge so this was a bit hard at first

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Though i remember doing hoenn cs without SsBlue (Bea+Hilb+Hop i think)
This would be easier for them is what I feel

vital gazelle
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other than having access to a lot of TMs

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which is kinda big tbf

keen silo
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my main 4 bar users are ss ethan and rosa

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and normally i dont really need to care about team speed

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bc 3/5

nocturne pawn
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she gets inertia at 3/5

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so you have incentive to buff her speed

long thicket
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Wrong channel, whoops.

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Being tanky really doesn't fit Koga, but eh, that's the gimmick he was given.

vital gazelle
vital gazelle
stray sentinel
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I need to use clay and seismy. Which battle would be best. Just need ground medal.

toxic cobalt
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Just use hapu and spam accuracy debuffs

stray sentinel
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Which battle u think?

toxic cobalt
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Any

stray sentinel
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Maybe hapu sycamore cerneas

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Ty!

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I thought hapu was worse

toxic cobalt
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She is but you’re just getting the medal so a one bar spam is easier

magic crown
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This was after 2 ex sync buffs and a super effective up max hp run

fringe valve
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Beeeg noomber

keen silo
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I generally try to avoid 4 bar move consumption in cs as much as possible

keen silo
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And i dont use rosa outside of CS at all

stray sentinel
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Some guidance for round four ?

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Maybe nanu instead of will 🤔

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Or viola 🤔

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No nanu lol

zealous karma
stray sentinel
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Ty

tender shore
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Am I supposed to use physical or special moves against kyoga?
The tips say watch out for phys damage reduction but the actual level has special damage down??

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nvm the special damage down is from the round modifier im dumb

zealous karma
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I recall using Blue and Kahili and it worked

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I used SSB as my support

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But any gauge helper + crit buffer should work

tender shore
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Blue and pidgeot?
Feel like he did 0 zero damage when I tried
What is kahili for? Just flying phys damage?

zealous karma
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Correct blue pidgeot

zealous karma
keen silo
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I'd assume blue for special Kahili for physical

zealous karma
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First sync blue second sync kahili

zealous karma
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Was the last Johto CS really 4 months ago wow

tender shore
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if I use a type in the final battle does it count for the badge or does it have to be in the first 4

zealous karma
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It does count for the badge ye

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All 5 fights count

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If you want to try kahili blue(s) team here are the grids I used (first sync blue second sync kahili)

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It seems doable just need super prep to actually prock when using kahili TM before second sunc

tired sleet
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If you have ex/boosted zinnia, she would also work (with a significantly changed strategy)

zealous karma
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Oh that is right

tired sleet
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Her special sync takes care of the sides, and you could use dragon ascent for the mid

tender shore
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last badges I need are poison and psychic, suggestions?
for psychic I can probably use gio against Bruno but I'm not sure how to slot poison in, I have Bruno/koga left +final
maybe just a poison stall team with Lucy/koga + tank?

toxic cobalt
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Poison stall always works sure

zealous karma
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Is there a good psychic unit for stalling? Maybe lucian with debhffs

tender shore
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I can probably get away with poisol stall on the final battle since I can pick the enhanced status effects
Or do it on round 3 against koga

toxic cobalt
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They have Bruno to go

zealous karma
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If you have Serena I assume you don’t she can handle the stage freely

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Oh I didn’t read

toxic cobalt
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Stall on Round 3

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Round 3 is the stall field parameter

zealous karma
tired sleet
toxic cobalt
zealous karma
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(She did not one shot the sides and her sync only did 1K even with multipliers up)

keen silo
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Rip

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My lugia survived while failing a presync attempt

tired sleet
zealous karma
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Idk how you denial she only deals 4K for me lel

toxic cobalt
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Flinch the sides with Winona smdh

zealous karma
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Winona said no to flinching

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She also said no with her sync

keen silo
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She put the no in Winona

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Try again

toxic cobalt
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Also why are you distributing damage evenly between both sides

tired sleet
zealous karma
tender shore
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does anything affect the damage of poison or does it not matter as long as I have a team that can stall?

tired sleet
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There are some pairs with the potent toxin 2 passive

toxic cobalt
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The Round 3 field parameter

cinder summitBOT
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Potent Toxin 2

Increases the amount of damage an opponent takes from being poisoned or badly poisoned.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

10017100000 Sygna Suit Leaf & VenusaurGRID_PASSIVE

toxic cobalt
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Also you want bad poison not poison

zealous karma
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Wth!

tired sleet
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… by some pairs i mean ss leaf

tender shore
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yeah koga applies bad poison

zealous karma
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Since when can non helpers use the bot commands in these channels

tired sleet
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Since a while ago LanceShrug

zealous karma
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Dying irl

keen silo
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Since slash commands probably

tired sleet
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That’s the first time i’ve done it tho, but i saw someone do it a couple months ago

keen silo
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In some other servers I'm in some bot perms and stuff got screwed up bc of slash commands and people were able to use bot commands at unintended channels, so I was wondering if it were the same here

tired sleet
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I can use any /command apparently, even the ones that wouldn’t ever be needed for a help channel

tender shore
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who's a good tank for poison stall? I tried aaron and I lived long enough to kill koga but he got 2 syncs off and then I died to earth quakes from the side

zealous karma
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A unit with spammable potions and quick defensive buffing BPMorty and swimisty are good in this role as they have both gradual healing and synchro healing

tender shore
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Good lord bruno was so much easier
Giovanni killed him in like 3 hits

hot shadow
tired sleet
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Also sides have double def and mid has double spdef

tender shore
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I alr beat him with poison
That was annoyin

iron oar
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Can a non EX, Non power boosted Gio beat MM 2k Psychic weak this week?

old orchid
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Yes ofc

toxic cobalt
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A non EX non power boosted Geo can bean MM psychic weak every week, and probably non-psychic weak as well

vital gazelle
stray blaze
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Alright, I need help getting Lance down this week on 2k. I cannot for the life of me get him down and I am struggling even with 1/5 Zerena which usually handles everything for me.

rotund lagoon
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What’s the team?

stray blaze
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I was trying Zerena Masked and Lucas but couldn't get it down with that.

sand karma
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Try Rosa, Zerena, lucas

stray blaze
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Because speed

sand karma
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The fight won't last long enough to need speed

stray blaze
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CAn't get Rosa higher than 30

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130

spring fable
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Doesn’t Cyrus ex do more than a 1/5 Serena?

stray blaze
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Idk

sand karma
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Lucas doesn't consume gauge

stray blaze
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I'm not killing before first sync

sand karma
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Use only tms with rosa

sand karma
stray blaze
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Because I just am not? I've swapped them like 6 times.

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It isn't dying before first sync??

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Idk why not?

rotund lagoon
stray blaze
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Now you say that, but I've gotten closer with that than using a tank in my last spot.

spring fable
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How about sycamore Cyrus Lucas

rotund lagoon
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While Zerena doesn’t need Atk or Sp Atk buffing, she needs Speed and defenses can help too. Is Skyla available?

sand karma
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Rosa tm, Zerena tm, Lucas tm,
Rosa tm, Zerena move, Lucas zone
Rosa tm, Zerena move, Lucas move
Zerena sync
And clear whatever is left it should be possible

rotund lagoon
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Hang on, why is Rosa there?

sand karma
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Oh right

rotund lagoon
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Rosa is redundant and if you need a gauge Support, there’s better options.

sand karma
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I was thinking in terms of Cyrus

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Zerena doesn't need her yes

rotund lagoon
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I like Kirby’s idea more for that.

spring fable
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I personally ran 1/5 ss kris, 5/5 Cyrus and 1/5 Lucas, didn’t have difficulty at all, could replace ss kris with like Sabrina or another spatk crit rate buffer

rotund lagoon
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I also just realized

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You were using Zone, right @stray blaze ?

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Dragon Zone benefits the enemy team too, not exactly preferable for a 2K match

sand karma
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They actually don't use many dragon moves

rotund lagoon
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But for sync.

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That’s where it gets bad.

sand karma
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If they presync this should be ez

rotund lagoon
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Personally, I’ve used Lucas without zone, it’ll be just fine.

sand karma
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No need of support sync

rotund lagoon
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Zerena needs first sync.

stray blaze
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Kris / Ala are both taken.

sand karma
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Skyla?

rotund lagoon
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Skyla I don’t see

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Probably used

spring fable
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Buffer, Cyrus, Lucas imo

rotund lagoon
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Who are your Supports that can raise Df? Can you send a screenshot? From Upgrades screen please.

sand karma
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Their Cyrus doesn't look ex

rotund lagoon
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I’m saying Zerena.

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I think you keep getting on a different page than me.

sand karma
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Should've reply tagged

stray blaze
rotund lagoon
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Roxanne, Lucas and Zerena

stray blaze
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Well, the issue with this screen is it doesn't show that she is used.

rotund lagoon
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You did not show your 3 or 4* either.

sand karma
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Marley?

stray blaze
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She's 5* so she shows closer to the top.

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For Roxanne ^

rotund lagoon
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Was she used then?

stray blaze
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Yeah she was, it's chill I'll give it another shot.

rotund lagoon
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My other idea is to use Jasmine, Marley and Zerena if it fails.

void wyvern
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Marley is a good choice. Team sharp will let you set up restraint before first sync without issue

stray blaze
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K you guys are just smarter than me

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Ggs

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I'm done.

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Marley Lucas Serena

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Easiest fight of my entire life.

toxic cobalt
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speed

rotund lagoon
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GODSPEED

trail smelt
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I am

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Spid

rotund lagoon
void wyvern
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Easy peasy

stray blaze
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Absolutely easy peasy, thank you guys. Sorry for the attitude I was frustrated. You guys are wonderful. lifein11Bigheart

rotund lagoon
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Glad it worked!

void wyvern
summer flare
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This week's E4 had me digging deep into my current pool

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Which made me notice how unhappy I was with my flying Pokemon

toxic cobalt
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Gen pool and f2p flying isn't great

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Kahili or Mega Zinnia

stray blaze
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I off typed most of everything

summer flare
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First tried darach, but I despise his dps

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Then tried Winona and found out she was worse

swift swan
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Darach nuke is alright

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As for winona, her DPS is special. Koga has high sp def

summer flare
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But he has to set it up mostly by himself

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Ended up defaulting to blue

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Terrible nuke, specially without EX

stray blaze
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Yeah I made the mistake of trying Blue and Pidgeot and it was a little rough for me ngl.

toxic cobalt
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Blue isn't meant to Nuke, he is a dps pair

summer flare
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But his dps output was strong enough

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To offset it

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Dragon wasn't hyper smooth

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Since I decided to try alt iris

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But it was passable

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Flying 100% got into my priority pulling list

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I dislike all my options

rotund lagoon
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I used Blue for almost everything SophoKEK SophoKEK

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Until I got SS Ethan

toxic cobalt
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It sounds like you didn't try Kahili or Zinnia?

summer flare
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I didn't try kahili

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And I only do on type carries

toxic cobalt
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They're both on type?

summer flare
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So zinnia was off limits

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Zinnia is a dragon pair

swift swan
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I used Blue for every flying stage and left my anni steven in the reserve bench for so freaking long

summer flare
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She has a flying move

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But isn't a flying pair

swift swan
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We forgot Nate

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Everyone forgets about him

toxic cobalt
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I don't forget Nate

summer flare
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Oh Nate exists

swift swan
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See

summer flare
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I played b2w2 so much

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And yet

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I forget he's a pair

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Mine is 3/5, even

toxic cobalt
swift swan
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Well, just don't expect anything from his DPS

summer flare
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I have 3/5 SST red

sand karma
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I use blue with 2 ex supports so he doesn't have to sync after the first one
But it always has to be post sync because his setup is so slow

summer flare
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There is yet to be a csmm that isn't bulldozeable by that

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Still

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I wanna have strong pairs for all types

toxic cobalt
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And you already do

summer flare
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It's my ninja way, gimmick or whatever

swift swan
sand karma
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Brutal clarity needs 4 tms

swift swan
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That's why you bring lillie or bp clemont

sand karma
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I think we've had this discussion somewhere and i said i still don't have Lillie

summer flare
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I feel like some of my types are pretty barebones

swift swan
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Clemont then ClemAnalyze

summer flare
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Flying being among them

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Other types, however, are solved, for me

toxic cobalt
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I've found very little flying weak stuff that can stand up to Zinnia's four bar

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It's a pretty immediate flattening

sand karma
summer flare
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But as I've mentioned

swift swan
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I've found that Zinnia can clear flying weak with Aerial Ace thanks to zinfogel

summer flare
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I don't wanna use an offtype pair with an on type move

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Otherwise poison wouldn't ever need a properly strong offensive pair, since SS Giovanni exists

toxic cobalt
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Again that's fine, but that doesn't mean you don't have strong pairs for all types. It means you refuse to use strong pairs in some types. It's a difference.

toxic cobalt
summer flare
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I could be more specific and say I lack strong pairs with matching types to said weaknesses

swift swan
summer flare
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But that's a very roundabout way of saying "yeah, I don't have strong flying pairs"

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Or "Koga is as strong as my poison pairs get"

swift swan
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We have quite a lot of pairs that buff the stats you asked, at varying degrees though. And idk how to filter the search to give me results to only units who max those stats

summer flare
sand karma
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There's 2 or 3 that can max crit and spatk

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But not speed

summer flare
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I think SS Kris perhaps could work

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But maxing speed would take hits

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And some rng

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So I guess she doesn't count

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But my best bet for that is sabrina

swift swan
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Lyra can

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Under sun, needs 3 uses of TM

sand karma
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I was thinking of who to pair with bp Clemont for Blue

trail smelt
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BP Clemont?

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Oh does he buff accuracy?

sand karma
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I'll stick to Falkner + Skyla post sync until i get Lillie i guess

swift swan
#

Yeah

toxic cobalt
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I feel a presync can be done with that team

summer flare
#

She can help with accuracy

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And crit

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As well as spatk

sand karma
#

No

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I think I've had this conversation with someone else before

swift swan
#

And no TM MPR

sand karma
#

Against Koga?

swift swan
#

Considering Koga has double sp def, Blue will be hitting as if offtype

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Pretty sure I've beaten Koga with Blue before

sand karma
#

Yeah i was talking wrt Koga

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The harder stadia will probably feel like this so I speculated

swift swan
#

wheeze idk what happened but somehow blue survived koga's sync at full offensive params??

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what +4 defenses did to a mf

keen jasper
#

I wonder, is dragon-weak Lance meant for Lisia?

swift swan
#

try checking his tips

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I can't do it because i've resetted CS

old orchid
#

just looked at Rock weak Malva again

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fortunately she only has 17k HP

toxic cobalt
#

That seems very low>?

old orchid
#

which is enough for low tier rock dmg dealers do their job

old orchid
toxic cobalt
#

I will be fascinated to try it out

trail smelt
#

Well we won’t be boosting their stats further since it’s type clearing week so we won’t see their true power yet

swift swan
paper summit
#

oh wow, it is indeed super low

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Siebold and Wikstrom on the other hand, bulky mfs lol

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I'm surprised they didn't make dragon weak Drasna much more bulkier, like, she is just slightly higher than rock Malva

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about 2k more

swift swan
#

yeah, with all the dragon type damage dealers we have, I'm surprised none of our dragon-weak stages are super hard

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instead they made more obscure stages like bug-weak have bulky HP

toxic cobalt
#

Gotta sell that 5/5 Alder

swift swan
#

Sold AlderW

old orchid
full mesa
#

Well, if SCEmmet can't do it, I probably will have to use Burgh no ex.

#

I'm better off typing.

molten nimbus
#

wait tf wikstrom has

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28k hp base

old orchid
#

thats standard base HP nowadays

sand karma
#

Fantina save us

main crow
#

Instead of looking at his hp

#

You should look at his Aegislash defense stats 💀

sand karma
#

I think that's only for shield forme

full mesa
#

Does it really matter? We won't be able to do Master Mode next week.

main crow
#

Gonna be real annoying to miss time a sync

molten nimbus
#

that shit has both sentry and wise entries

full mesa
#

But it reaches 39k hp with pre sync tiles.

molten nimbus
#

god save us

full mesa
molten nimbus
#

no they dont

#

it's base stats

full mesa
#

Sentry Entry 2
Raises the user’s Defense by 2 stat rank(s) when it enters a battle.

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Sentry entry x2. Raises the user's base defence.

molten nimbus
#

mb discord being dumb again

full mesa
#

Critical hits ignore sentry and wise 2. They don't ignore sentry and wise x2.

molten nimbus
#

he has 158 def/spD

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which is basically sentry/wise entries

full mesa
#

While in shield form. When he goes att form they drop to 70ish.

old orchid
full mesa
#

Just hope he'll do an attack first thing.

molten nimbus
full mesa
#

He doesn't get back in shield form before sync.

molten nimbus
#

holy shit he has 1.3k attack in sword form

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god save us

toxic cobalt
#

We just have to use our Wilkstrom to mirror

full mesa
#

Also keep in mind. No MM next week. Don't compare the MM stats for Hard mode.

old orchid
molten nimbus
full mesa
#

Numbers Vs Experience. Half of Hoenn is like him. If you can do Hoenn, you can do him.

old orchid
full mesa
#

Don't compare Sinnoh. Sinnoh is a child's play in front of the atrocities some Hoenn and Kalos stages have.

molten nimbus
#

thing is he has the highest attack and that he buffs def/spD every turn

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missing sync crit=reset lolll

swift swan
#

the less attacks they can pull off, the better

#

this time around it'll be "WIKSTROM PLS DO AN ATTACK MOVE"

molten nimbus
#

he hits the hardest for now

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and he has tough/smart cookies

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oops no stoic 9

swift swan
molten nimbus
old orchid
#

wdym? just haze them

molten nimbus
#

at least

#

he doesnt have any buffs

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aside from his own pre sync En Garde and sentry/wise entry 2

old orchid
#

King's Shield post sync buffs various stats too

#

read his most bottom passive

molten nimbus
#

also has power posture (sync) lol

molten nimbus
#

but it's after 1st sync

#

i doubt anyone would survive his 2nd sync anyways

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it hits too much of a truck

#

his gimmick here is probably to reduce his defense/spD/attack or he does bs amount of damage

sand karma
#

Does he use kings shield before or after sync

old orchid
#

after

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Ghost weak is made for SS Korrina, so that's why

sand karma
#

Her rising tide vs wikkys

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He's definitely presync or perish

full mesa
#

Power posture is only activated if you hit him with physical attacks while King's Shield is on.

full mesa
boreal rose
#

tries a stupid team
"Why isnt it working"
-me

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My god. I'm using Champ. Iris with no stat reduction

flint heart
#

Anyone awake

old orchid
#

can you send your roster here?

flint heart
#

I need the link so I don’t spam

cosmic vortex
#

Hope these guys can clear 15 types kalos cs next week

old orchid
#

dont worry, its fine to send multiple screenshots here

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just take the screenshot of your roster in move level menu

flint heart
#

Everything that I’ve used

sand karma
#

Team against who?

flint heart
#

Should I make sum new supports or strikers idk against Karen

sand karma
#

Why are ACynthia, Bea already used?

flint heart
#

Ummm bc i used them on Karen my bad

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I’m playing will

sand karma
#

You want help for Will?

flint heart
#

Yes

toxic cobalt
#

Just use Nessa

sand karma
#

They have 3/5 MR

toxic cobalt
#

Use Nessa and MR then LanceShrug

sand karma
#

Calem support

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Don't use stat reduction in parameters

flint heart
#

What’s mr

sand karma
#

Masked royal

flint heart
#

Oh ok

sand karma
#

Would've been nice if your Ccalem was ex

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Sync with mr

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Set dark zone with CCalem before sync

#

Nessa only chomps with jaw lock

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You'll need to buff speed twice and attack once with mr, sync, brutal swing X3, sync

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Nessa needs tm once

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Hope they're gridded appropriately

flint heart
#

Ig I can try it

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I doubt if they are

sand karma
#

Do that first then

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Not needed for Calem

flint heart
#

I’ll make calem now then a 6*

sand karma
#

Use the 10:10 method

flint heart
#

Made it and ofc I’ve done that

sand karma
#

Then i think you can sync first with Calem

#

(i think they're missing 1 crit for mr)CyrusSweat

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But Nessa will do most of the heavy lifting so i think it'll be fine

onyx ice
#

Sync with kahili, koga is special resistant and there no reason to ever use kahili if you don't plan to sync or tank with her plus she should be able to tank 3 hits thanks to her trainer move

verbal karma
#

I have already beaten CSMM

keen jasper
verbal karma
#

over 9500, and that's what matters to me :p

onyx ice
sharp jasper
#

Took 20+ tries but did it 2k

#

Also Euraka so OP , too much healing

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40% low health aid , 20% sync heal , gradual heal , endurance

versed meteor
#

After wasting one candy i had to settle for 9500 points

#

Fuck you koga

sand karma
#

WhySycamorePanic

grand trout
#

I gave in y'all

#

I bought clue to anticipate malva

trail smelt
#

Man Malva ain’t even here yet

vital gazelle
ancient lava
#

Damnit

#

Finally beat karen

#

Offtyped with SS N, Hop, and Brendan

keen silo
#

(I hope its at least on a limited)

full mesa
#

Considering how we won't get ex resources next week I might have wasted my ex on Kiawe... Maybe I should have gone for Burgh...

toxic cobalt
#

Your EX priority is Burgh?

versed meteor
mellow linden
#

How did using a candy on Ash result in needing to 1.5k Koga?

#

I’m confused about the chain of events here

full mesa
versed meteor
full mesa
#

You didn't waste it. Ash at 3/5 slays everything.

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You are half way there.

versed meteor
#

So i reduced to 1.5k

mellow linden
#

Did you bring Volkner to the stage?

keen silo
#

A candy isn't entirely wasted as long as it isn't used on someone in general pool

versed meteor
mellow linden
#

Wynaut?

versed meteor
#

Used sycamore and will

mellow linden
#

Ash + Volkner is free 2k

full mesa
#

Elec terrain means +50% elec damage.

keen silo
#

^

full mesa
#

That 22k will become 33k

keen silo
#

Ideally ash volkner sycamore

mellow linden
#

Sycamore is totally wasted on Ash and Will has like zero synergy there

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I’m extremely confused

versed meteor
#

Special defense down

full mesa
mellow linden
#

Volkner would’ve been better

#

Something like Volkner/Ash/a good tank is an easy 2k

versed meteor
#

20k with -6 special

#

There is no way electric terrain would have done more damage

keen silo
#

what round are you doing it on

mellow linden
#

Thunder would’ve been more damage though

versed meteor
#

I did round 4

keen silo
#

ok

mellow linden
#

Plus Volkner can flinch/paralyze

full mesa
#

Isn't Koga with in build wise entry x2 this week?

keen silo
#

Yeah he is

full mesa
#

Maybe that's why.

mellow linden
#

Btw, what parameters were you using?

full mesa
#

130+ spdef isn't something to laugh at. You're better off with a physical attacker.

nocturne pawn
#

avoid defense parameters like the plague in cs

full mesa
#

Unless you stall.

versed meteor
mellow linden
#

Well there’s your problem

nocturne pawn
mellow linden
#

Sorta

full mesa
#

Max hp 6?

nocturne pawn
#

yes

#

defense and hp up parameters are always something you want to avoid

mellow linden
#

Way too much max HP parameters

full mesa
mellow linden
#

I was wondering why 20k wouldn’t have KOed

marsh crater
#

Help how to do karen poison team

full mesa
#

Isn't max hp 6 a 60% hp increase?

mellow linden
nocturne pawn
versed meteor
#

Aren't health parameters better than damage parameters

mellow linden
full mesa
mellow linden
#

Defensive parameters means slower clear, which means more chances for the enemy to KO you

keen silo
#

Health parameters are only for stall

#

Most of the time

nocturne pawn
#

csmm you really want to try and presync

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aka koing the opponent before they get to sync

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cuz most likely you wouldnt survive it anyway

mellow linden
#

Ash should easy be able to 2k with the pre-Sync parameters in pins

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Volkner + Ash + tank

nocturne pawn
#

also what does 2/5 ash even do

keen silo
#

I'd say just go volkner ash sycamore if you aren't using sycamore for any other cs fights

mellow linden
#

I’d rather say Sonia or Hilbert over Sycamore

#

Personally

nocturne pawn
#

do they have lucian

full mesa
mellow linden
#

They need a dedicated tank more than Lucian

nocturne pawn
#

ash is totally self sufficient isnt he

mellow linden
#

Yeah

keen silo
#

They don't really need another spdef dropper tank is more important in this case

mellow linden
#

That’s why I don’t like the idea of Sycamore as an Ash teammate

full mesa
#

3/5 brings even more damage to sync.

nocturne pawn
#

wait does ash drop spdef already then

full mesa
#

Also some survivability.

toxic cobalt
keen silo
#

No he doesn't i just had a brain fart and decided to include 6 extra letters

#

💀

marsh crater
#

Bp morty i need to 3/5?

toxic cobalt
#

Don’t need to but it’s great for him

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MPr and astonish

full mesa
#

You need TM/potion mpr for BPMorty but keep in mind he is dark weak.

mellow linden
#

If it’s for Karen I don’t recommend BP Morty specifically since he’s weak to Dark

#

Sycamore may be better

full mesa
#

Swimduck is a better choice.

nocturne pawn
#

eh is he better though

mellow linden
#

I don’t think they have MistyDuck or else I would’ve said her

nocturne pawn
#

i mean for karen i think i used hilbert cuz my bea is 4/5 and gridded

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and most fighting types are physical

mellow linden
#

Well this is for a stall team

#

So the rules are different

nocturne pawn
#

bleh

marsh crater
#

How about wally gallade?

full mesa
#

I went Sonia/SCEmmet/Persian-A on half sync.

#

If you can survive

marsh crater
#

Got him at 2/5

mellow linden
full mesa
#

No

nocturne pawn
full mesa
#

Needs 3/5

mellow linden
#

Bea would be better though

nocturne pawn
#

if you have her

marsh crater
#

No i mean if i want to use fighting team

mellow linden
#

If he’s only 2/5 he might not have his important mods

full mesa
#

Wally needs 3/5.

nocturne pawn
#

bea is better for fighting straight up

#

wally is pretty crippled without 3/5

marsh crater
#

Bea only 1/5

mellow linden
#

Still better

full mesa
#

Even Solgaleo is better than Wally

nocturne pawn
#

thats enough

mellow linden
#

Meteor Assault is hilarious damage

marsh crater
#

I got bruno machamp 4/5 tho

nocturne pawn
#

meteor assault is that good

mellow linden
#

I would say Bea is better than Bruno

#

Regardless of move level

toxic cobalt
#

Bea probably better than Bruno but either works

nocturne pawn
#

also bea has innate cs3 and sharp entry 2

marsh crater
#

Hop solgaleo bea?

nocturne pawn
#

she just needs 1 level of crit and an attack buffer

mellow linden
full mesa
toxic cobalt
#

Why run two strikers??

full mesa
#

Hop/Bea/Speed buffer

mellow linden
#

You need gauge support with Bea and her damage is more than enough to be the sole damage-dealer

nocturne pawn
#

i probably shouldnt have used solgaleo in hindsight

full mesa
#

That's wrong. Karen is quite bulky. You're better off with one striker.

nocturne pawn
#

but like hilbert buffs speed so its fine

marsh crater
#

Hop hilbert bea?

mellow linden
#

Is Hilbert 3/5?

marsh crater
#

Hilbert 1/5

mellow linden
#

Hop + Skyla + Bea would be better then

toxic cobalt
#

Why are you running Hop and Hilbert?

swift swan
mellow linden
#

I’m assuming because Speed buffs

marsh crater
#

Skyla used already

nocturne pawn
mellow linden
#

You have Marley available?

toxic cobalt
#

That’s fine

nocturne pawn
marsh crater
#

Marley?

toxic cobalt
#

Yeah she’s great

mellow linden
#

3-star Arcanine girl

#

Great Speed Support

nocturne pawn
#

does marley have pep rally

marsh crater
#

Hop marley bea?

toxic cobalt
#

Sure

mellow linden
#

Yeah, that team works. Grid Marley for X Speed All Pep Rally if you can

marsh crater
#

Oh i have her

#

I need to grid bea and marley

mellow linden
#

Bea grid doesn’t matter

#

She’s only 1/5

marsh crater
#

So bea 1/5 doable?

mellow linden
#

Should be

#

Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode, btw?

marsh crater
#

Just want increase her meteor dmg

#

Master mode

#

Try for 1.5k

mellow linden
#

Should be fine then, yeah

swift swan
#

Should be fine

nocturne pawn
#

bea 1/5 is probably capable of 2k

swift swan
#

The only thing you need to be worried about is Karen's evasion hacks

marsh crater
#

Oh is it?

swift swan
nocturne pawn
#

imo its not that different vs 1.5k in general

marsh crater
#

Yea that evasion is cheating

swift swan
#

As long as you get lucky with meteor assault landing haha

#

Too many latias runs have traumatized me

mellow linden
#

Well it’s not cheating since it’s available to both sides, but it is very annoying

swift swan
#

Tip: Just get lucky smh

marsh crater
#

Been working on stall team but i wanna save my sycamore for bruno

nocturne pawn
keen silo
#

Tip: Start praying

marsh crater
#

will with greninja pair is easy 2k

toxic cobalt
#

Lots of ways to stall that don’t use sycamore but Bea should be easier

marsh crater
#

Karen is the problem

nocturne pawn
#

yeah evasion hacks are annoying

keen silo
#

Fight evasion with evasion

#

Gren duo vs karen KEKW

swift swan
#

My team at +6 evasion: Still gets hit by 70 accuracy move
Their team at +2 evasion: Footwork!

nocturne pawn
#

literally no one buffs team evasion except ccalem

#

and i dont have cerena

nocturne pawn
#

evasion never works for you

old orchid
toxic cobalt
mellow linden
#

I think BP Janine has a teamwide evasion buff as well

zealous karma
#

Fantina jump scare

mellow linden
#

And Misty can single-target evasion buff

old orchid
#

Dont forget the most loved dena child

#

NY Lillie

swift swan
#

Oh yeah, she has x evasion all right

nocturne pawn
#

oh cool so my morty can actually nuke consistently whee

zealous karma
old orchid
zealous karma
#

And Status shield?

old orchid
#

noone remembers SCingo smh

swift swan
#

Oh was it not x evasion all? I see

marsh crater
#

Running bp janine with stall team?

swift swan
zealous karma
#

BpJanine isn’t bulky enough for one lel

swift swan
zealous karma
#

BPJanine is more focused on hyper offense teams

swift swan
#

Bp janine is made to eva tank and you know it's gonna fail you. She's pretty frail otherwise

toxic cobalt
#

BP Janine for the triple Crobat team

keen silo
#

COMING LIVE: CS get raided by a bunch of wild crobats- oh wait

zealous karma
#

BpJanine is really good to support OgMorty

zealous karma
swift swan
zealous karma
#

(Which morty needs to side deny with sync)

old orchid
keen silo
glacial star
#

Need help

zealous karma
#

Can you post your 5* units from the move level section of upgrades and screenshot them ?

versed meteor
#

Forgot something i could have tried to offtype koga 2k with ghetsis

glacial star
#

Yea they are uploading

zealous karma
#

slt

#

alr

glacial star
zealous karma
#

Correct me if I am wronf you do not have MR correct?

keen jasper
glacial star
#

Mr?

glacial star
#

Few*

keen jasper
mellow linden
#

A team built around:

  • Bea for Karen

  • Karen for Will

  • Giovanni for Bruno

  • Nate, Darach, or Kahili for Koga

  • Cyrus for Lance

Will work. You also have SS Hilda and Champ Serena as back pocket options if you get stuck on a stage

glacial star
#

Was there a draw or what?

keen jasper
#

You'll get him evenutally

glacial star
#

Idk may i might have

keen jasper
#

He has Incineroar as his mon

mellow linden
#

They have a 3/5 Karen, so not like it matters either way, tbh

zealous karma
#

Otherwise,
Will: Nessa Kukui Hop
Koga: Blue Elessa Glacia
Bruno: Gio Rosa a spd buffer
Karen: Bea Nanu Phoebe
Lance: Cyrus Sycamore Plumeria

#

(I tried getting all 15 types in)

glacial star
#

Dont have him yet

zealous karma
#

Do not have who yet?

#

Also get the dupes on the legendary adventure units

#

+legexchange

frozen depotBOT
#

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  • Trade the vouchers for copies of that pair (in the shop > legendary adventure tab)
  • DO NOT TRADE the power-ups, use all 20 on the unlocked pair (in upgrade > potential tab)
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glacial star
#

I did all except mewtwo atm

#

I dont have MR

#

Also is lusamine and pheromosa good?

keen jasper
#

But can deal loads of damage

zealous karma
#

Loads is an overstatement

keen jasper
#

Eh, maybe good damage

zealous karma
#

I would say decent

#

She at most for me deals 3K with Special power up 1 and -6 spdef on the enemu

glacial star
#

So what team for the dark type

#

Give me specifics

zealous karma
#

I recommended teams for each round

glacial star
#

Hmm

#

Can u tell about the main strikers

zealous karma
#

Nessa spams Jaw lock
After sync blue spams hurricane
Gio spams psychic
Bea spams Meteor assault
Cyrus spams spacial rend

#

Make sure that you are triple queuimg

glacial star
#

I see

mellow linden
#

And that you’re getting the main damage-dealer’s crit to +3 and Attack or Sp. Atk. (depending on who it is) as close to +6 as possible

glacial star
#

What about kukui

mellow linden
#

Kukui is there for Leer spam, I’m pretty sure

zealous karma
#

He spams leer

#

I will be using the same teams to see how they work

#

in case you meet trouble

glacial star
#

I see

zealous karma
#

The only stages that may cause trouble are Karen and Lance

potent wadi
#

Is Diantha offensively Physical or Special next week?

zealous karma
#

You can check poma tools

potent wadi
glacial star
#

What does elesa and glacia do

mellow linden
#

Note that they specifically mean SS Elesa, the one with Rotom

#

Both SS Elesa and Glacia are Supports

glacial star
#

I have both

#

But they get boolied

zealous karma
#

That is odd they lasted until post sync for me

glacial star
#

Are urs gridded?

zealous karma
#

For that battle no one was gridded

glacial star
#

Hmm

#

In the last only venomoth is left by like 20%

#

But venomoth just 1 shots M pidgeot

zealous karma
#

I recorded it give moment

glacial star
#

Let me try like this

#

Guess im gonna do it in the morning then

#

I mess up a bit

#

When does it reset?

zealous karma
#

Sunday/Monday reset

silent quail
#

meanwhile...

#

I like to use Kahili for this

zealous karma
#

Try leveling up your pits if it isn’t working

#

Idt they can grid their units

silent quail
#

oh

#

I see RosaThink

paper summit
#

minimal grids should work, this isn't even MM is it?

zealous karma
#

It’s not

paper summit
#

ok, you can get away with no grids for some pairs then

zealous karma
#

I did it gridless in the clear that I posted

paper summit
#

I was ready to protest about Elesa being EX'd but then saw you never synced with her SeleneLul

zealous karma
#

I always make sure to not do smth if the player doesn’t have smth available

compact yoke
#

This confuses me

zealous karma
#

How come?

#

There are parameters for;
4K
10K
7.5K
2K stall team

compact yoke
#

Idk like just confused. Don’t know how to analyze it

#

Like I get the points. I don’t get how to tell if it’s too hard or not. Will I just have to experiment with each one

#

Trial and error

#

And don’t understand the status stall, and all that

#

Mf lost

toxic cobalt
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Status stall is for poison

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It won’t work for other teams

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Poison status condition specifically

mellow linden
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Stall: Inflicting the opponents with Poison and outlasting them.

Pre-Sync: You KO the center opponent before they can use their Sync Move.

Post-Sync: You don’t care whether the opponent gets a Sync Move off or not, so long as you can KO before they get their 2nd Sync.

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2k is harder than 1.5k, 850 is generally recommended for your 1st delve into Master Mode

undone ether
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i went with R1 Karen for infinite Fighting Zone LOL

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and boost.

mellow linden
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That was literally over 24 hours ago

undone ether
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also 😮 most used sync pairs in this week from /vg/

mellow linden
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Lol @ characters who aren’t playable/Sync Pairs who have yet to release being on the list

undone ether
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cackles

silent quail
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I've seen you're very active in there rei lol

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or at least, when the unit compilation things are posted haha

candid juniper
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@compact yoke in here

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Repost that

compact yoke
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Repost what