Champion Stadium

[keen jasper]

She can actually

Wait is it?

[verbal karma]

yeah

[keen jasper]

Oh it is lol

[old orchid]

Again, Jasmine can buff crit

[keen jasper]

And she has SEUN to increase Naomi's damage further

[jaunty mason]

How to defeat Karen?-

[keen jasper]

Use your best rock-type unit

[verbal karma]

I am looking through Holiday Jasmine's sync grid, I can't seem to find anything that buffs Crit

[keen jasper]

It's her passive

[verbal karma]

ah, Team Critical Command

[jaunty mason]

Don't have , Most of my rock type are low levels—

[verbal karma]

forgot about that one

[keen jasper]

Do you have Olivia?

[verbal karma]

anyway, that leaves the problem with trying to find a way to grid out Team Shout 4...when I sadly don't have any energy left due to how full her grid already is

[jaunty mason]

Yup

[keen jasper]

What move level?

[jaunty mason]

1/5

[old orchid]

Use the special grid of her in #1009587872342478908 pins, and let Naomi buff the 4 spatk

You said you wanted to quad queue and now you want to grid Team Shout

[verbal karma]

oh yeah, I forgot

Team Shout doesn't allow quadqueing

...damn, how else can Jasmine fully buff Naomi's Sp. Atk then?

because Naomi needs both fully buffed

[old orchid]

Team Grand Entry 1

[verbal karma]

but Team Grand Entry only buffs Sp. Atk by one rank

[old orchid]

Actually her Brain Sync only needs at least 1 spatk

[verbal karma]

I need two ranks

[keen jasper]

Jasmine has Adrenaline 1

[old orchid]

It will activate again when she mega

[verbal karma]

oh yeah, I have that gridded out, even

[old orchid]

Team Shout 4 is unreliable

[verbal karma]

too bad I can't reach either Team Grand Entry or Team Shout

due to not enough energy

[old orchid]

Ignore Team Shout

[verbal karma]

I mean, I can't reach Team Grand Entry either

[old orchid]

Have you checked #1009587872342478908 pins like i said before?

[verbal karma]

wasn't able to yet

[old orchid]

Or check this

[verbal karma]

But here is mine

[cinder summit]

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[old orchid]

Hmm the bot stopped working

Okay so

Check the grid doc

And find her special grid

Copy that

[verbal karma]

...I really hope that whatever grid it is does NOT have Adrenaline, Potion MP Refresh or Potion Master Healer removed...

[spring fable]

This one?

[manic kiln]

you don't need that much heal, just pick 1 potion refresh and you have energy for grand entry

[old orchid]

She is tanky too

[manic kiln]

seriously this is johto they don't hit that hard

[verbal karma]

alright

[manic kiln]

jasmine can already max both def don't need that much healing

[old orchid]

Remember to use her TM on Ampharos so that she can get Endure

[swift swan]

I thought holiday jasmine is one of the tankiest supports we have

[old orchid]

It will help if Koga spams too many moves

[swift swan]

you can drop any and all potion tiles and still get away with it

[onyx ice]

Normally you just destroy the opponent with the 1st fully boosted se up attack

[old orchid]

Yup

3/4 of my grid sets for her dont have any Potion tiles

[swift swan]

0/4 of my grid sets for her don't have any potion tiles

because I don't have her

[onyx ice]

Normally the rotation for me is tm > tm > seup > 6ex support sync > profit

[spring fable]

[manic kiln]

i get that people want their supports to be tanky but not necessary, you just need to kill them faster

[onyx ice]

Just like this

[verbal karma]

finally, R3 done

[latent eagle]

(The order is not set, that’s just how I have my preset teams set much) mostly just messing around thinking what might be doable for MM 10,000 even tho I’m probably wrong on my teams

[old orchid]

These teams are weird but they should work

Should replace May with other ground dmg dealer

[main crow]

Putting rats on any team is instant win button lol

[swift swan]

in LA/LG you want them to be tanky. but in CS? naaah no need. just go for quick annihilation

[onyx ice]

Used these this week

[toxic cobalt]

I tanked with Alder last week

[manic kiln]

yeah there's no rule that you have to tank with support

[onyx ice]

Some tech/strikers are decent tanking options

Jhoto is fairly easy

[swift swan]

I tank with SS Lyra in my grass teams like, all the time

[latent eagle]

May is my only good damage dealer that I have leveled up 🥲

[latent eagle]

Yeah again, I was just messing around lol

[onyx ice]

I guess that now my weakest type is probably ice

If i don't consider stuffs like rock special or dark special

[old orchid]

Replace Hilbert with a spatk support then

[old orchid]

Not Normal?

[onyx ice]

Normal isn't a real type

[swift swan]

[keen jasper]

[onyx ice]

I mean there's no normal weak stage, so it's basically always offtype

[latent eagle]

What order should I do the battles in?

[onyx ice]

Depends on what your team can make use the most

[old orchid]

Avoid fighting Will on round 2, at least

Other than that the order doesnt matter

[onyx ice]

Not like me

[latent eagle]

I mean these are my teams so—

[onyx ice]

I mean round 2 for me was fine, Roxanne has endurance and i used special damage dealers

[manic kiln]

i also did Will round 2

[toxic cobalt]

Whatever order is fin

[onyx ice]

I used physical for the other 3 battles

[verbal karma]

alright, am at R5 now (using R4's gimmick)

which field effect remover would be the best choice here? Darach, Brawley, Hala or Lisia?

I feel like either Darach or Hala since they don't have a limit to their Brick Break, but...who knows

[old orchid]

What team are you going to use?

Also Defog is always better since you can clear crit shield which provides free 150 pts

[swift swan]

Defog >>>

[verbal karma]

Zerena as the nuke, SS Elesa as the EX support

[verbal karma]

oh yeah, I forgot: Brick Break doesn't clear Crit Shield

whoops

Lisia it is then

[mellow linden]

SS Serena should be able to clear before crit shield is an issue, if you end up needing to swap Lisia for someone else

[old orchid]

Lisia is fine

Free 150 points

[mellow linden]

Yeah, fair enough

[latent eagle]

I cannot beat koga

[old orchid]

Whats the problem?

[latent eagle]

Barely any damage, rosa dies too quickly

[old orchid]

What move level is your Courtney?

And do you have Naomi?

[mellow linden]

And do you have Bertha?

[swift swan]

Rosa isn't really ideal in 3 out of 4 stages this week

Rosa is a special tank. Koga's stage is mostly physical

[candid juniper]

Yeah, do you have any other supports other than Rosa?

Like idk, dawn?

[latent eagle]

Courtney is 130 and yes to Naomi and bertha but their at lvl 100

[latent eagle]

She's at lvl 125 non EX tho--

[candid juniper]

But what MOVE LEVEL

[old orchid]

I want to know their move level

[verbal karma]

alright, R5 done!

now I have 135

[old orchid]

Level doesnt matter much

[candid juniper]

Dawn may work to give them team physical defense buffs and then nuke with Courtney

[verbal karma]

I wonder who to EX next

[old orchid]

#poma-questions

[old orchid]

Then May doesnt have much spatk and crit buff

[mellow linden]

If you get Naomi and Bertha to 120+ and grid them then Naomi/Courtney/Bertha can almost certainly do it

[candid juniper]

Rosa doesn’t give crit buff anyways

Unless there’s something I’ve been overlooking

[latent eagle]

Sorry didn't read that part, sick atm so kinda bleh on all fronts, Courtney is 1, bertha is 2 and Naomi is 5

[old orchid]

Use Naomi then

[candid juniper]

You are doing hard mode, right?

[old orchid]

Im afraid that Naomi Bertha Courtney team is a bit gauge hungry

[mellow linden]

I cleared Shauntal on 2k in Unova CS at one point, it’s not that bad thanks to Courtney having a lot of tms

[candid juniper]

Their Naomi is only level 100, and picking up context clues, they don’t have enough materials to level them up

[old orchid]

Oh nice

[candid juniper]

If I’m correct

[old orchid]

They have a whole week to farm materials

[candid juniper]

True

[spring fable]

I suddenly can’t understand my thought process for my Karen run

[latent eagle]

I typically cant farm materials as I use my energy for events and getting

[meager agate]

i will not elaborate on this

[mellow linden]

[spring fable]

I ran Olivia, Acerola and Ss Diantha against Karen,
Acerola got 1 shotted so I used Bertha instead
Olivia did 3K nuke under sand and zone
Swapped Olivia for kukui for def debuffs (when Ss Diantha already debuffs def???)
Didn’t swap Bertha even when sand is no longer needed???
Somehow cleared R3

[swift swan]

Max HP combined with strength but it's not a status stall parameter? I can't wrap my head around this

[toxic cobalt]

Just take one more strength not an atk and a def

[swift swan]

Olivia did considerably less probably because you have no one to buff speed reliably. she takes to long to buff speed herself

[spring fable]

Yea I was pressing x atk

But that’s not the pt, what was I thinking

Karen was the most “close call” battle

[mellow linden]

If it works it works

[old orchid]

You can exchange some materials from event shops, and from lodge too

[spring fable]

Oh another thing

Does the 1.2k candy coin reward alternate between role each week?

*1.2k pt

[latent eagle]

I do occasionally do lodge exchange but again I use my energy for events and

But it turns out I could get Naomi and bertha to 135 and to 130

[old orchid]

You are ignoring your Koga saver then

Well thats good

You only need them lvl 120 at least

Grid them properly too

[latent eagle]

???

[old orchid]

Bad grammar moment

[latent eagle]

Not much I can do w/ 1/5 Courtney and 2/5 bertha

[old orchid]

Bertha doesnt need 3/5 or grid as much

Courtney too

You want fully gridded Naomi at least

[mellow linden]

Bertha can just grab TM Hit and Heal + Soothing Sand and be fine

[latent eagle]

Turns out I'm low on sync orbs

[rotund zinc]

I hate bruno, thought if I just use the types they all weak to I'll blast through but all my grass ones are not great 🤣 and onix just keeps slapping me

[mellow linden]

What team did you try against him?

[keen jasper]

Why not just use Silver's Solar Beam?

[old orchid]

Visit lodge exchange

[keen jasper]

Or exchange from events

[old orchid]

Yup

[rotund zinc]

I tried silver, SS erika, SS leaf. Also tried all the grass types I have but tbf they all low un upgraded so might be why the grass types are doing bad

[mellow linden]

Well 1st off you don't have a proper Support on that team

Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[rotund zinc]

Master

[mellow linden]

What point value are you shooting for?

[rotund zinc]

Just unlocked it thought I'd try it with my low trainers see what I could do

[mellow linden]

What parameters did you use?

[rotund zinc]

The 850 recommended one pinned

[latent eagle]

I feel like I need to off type koga this isn't working

[mellow linden]

Alright, just wanted to get an idea of what I'm working with. SS Erika + proper Supports (if you have 3/5 Hilbert he's a great choice for one of them) should be able to 850 Bruno without much issue

[keen jasper]

No limited ground types?

[latent eagle]

Limited ground types?

[keen jasper]

Like Maxie, SS Giovanni and such

[latent eagle]

Haha no, if I had them this wouldn't be a problem, I have a total of 5 ground types its one of my smallest group types

[swift swan]

and what are these 5

[rotund zinc]

I have a 2/5 Hilbert is he still a good option at 2?

[mellow linden]

Not for this situation. If you're not using Hop and Skyla on another team then you can use those 2 as her Supports

[rotund zinc]

Yeah I can chuck hop and skyla in, will give this a go thanks

[latent eagle]

Naomi, bertha, Courtney, clay and hapu

[swift swan]

Naomi and Courtney should be able to clear

needs good gauge support though

[mellow linden]

Eh, I'd rather recommend Naomi + Bertha + a Support. Nearly all of Naomi's modifiers are Sand based

Correction, she loses her innate modifiers that are equivalent to Ground Zone

So I guess it's actually fine

[latent eagle]

Yeah problem with that is one of the parameters makes the gauge go to 4

[swift swan]

it doesn't matter. you can run two 4-gauge users even with the Ally Move Gauge -2 parameter. the important thing is the team needs to be fast enough

and Courtney is uh. not fast.

that's why you want a good gauge support

so you can manage the gauges even with -2 gauge param

[latent eagle]

So who do I use instead of her?

[sharp jasper]

So what should I take down first with Spatk barrier?

Will?

[swift swan]

Will is the only one who's leaning to special-oriented stage so if you want to take advantage of the param, Will is your best bet

Just remember it makes it hard to quadqueue

[sharp jasper]

Alright I am using poison team anyway

[swift swan]

Courtney + Naomi can go together. You just need a very good gauge support. Someone who maxes speed for the whole team

[latent eagle]

Would hilbert work?

[civic trellis]

Iirc he’s physical so no point

[spring fable]

Too late I finished it

But thanks!

[civic trellis]

I did karen > will > bruno > koga

Oh

[spring fable]

Will > bruno > Karen > koga for me!

[swift swan]

Will has a physical sync, but mostly special moves

[swift swan]

Is he 3/5 at least?

So he can buff crit for Naomi

And Naomi just needs to buff her own sp atk

[latent eagle]

5/5!

And EXed so sync buff

[swift swan]

Ok, good

Grid hilbert with critical squad

So Naomi only needs to buff her sp atk

[latent eagle]

Already grided to that

[civic trellis]

Had to change my team for bruno; used ccalem to tank and sonia as a 2nd tank/debuffer/healer

But the EQs were still tough to deal with since sc sonia is a bit frail and ss erika (replaced her) is even frailer

[old orchid]

Naomi wants sand more than zone

[swift swan]

Fair enough. But bertha as the third will make the team very slow

So I suppose switching Courtney with Bertha also works

[old orchid]

Yup

[meager agate]

the game sees me beat lance with clair and just gives up

i was denied my hall of fame this week

[latent eagle]

I got SO close w/ my first Hilbert run literally if Courtney could hit b4 koga I would've won

[swift swan]

"The only possible outcome"
: glitches

[latent eagle]

Does Hilbert get any healing on his grid?

[versed meteor]

Bulldoze +1 crit = always crit 😡

[swift swan]

I... Don't think so? He's really meant to be an offensive support

So healing isn't too helpful for him. You want him to set up your damage dealer quickly, then he can die for all I care

Lmao sorry hilbert

[nocturne pawn]

he gets aggravation 1 on waterfall which is arguably better because why heal when you can not take damage

but hes supposed to be full offense

if you want a support that does offensive buffs + heals then sonia is great for that

[latent eagle]

I need speed/crit for Courtney

[nocturne pawn]

is your sonia 3/5

[latent eagle]

2/5

[nocturne pawn]

same as me then

yuh just use hilbert

[latent eagle]

Trying out skyla

[swift swan]

Can't give crit

I don't know if courtney buffs her own

Looks like she needs an MPR to max crit

[frosty axle]

Here is week 3 videos #1059457677002031184 message

[long thicket]

Wait, Will has Grassy Terrain?

Way before we had any playable unit with it?

It's such a weird feeling to succeed in every 2k stage in Johto first try (even with one close call).

[swift swan]

Mhm. Hilarious

[onyx ice]

He gets vigilance, so you can give healthy healing lucky skill if you really want

It's the only healing Hilbert can get access to

However he has endurance, and for offensive champion stadium is better than healing

[swift swan]

Yeah, healthy healing is redundant. You spend most of his turns buffing anyway

[onyx ice]

I feel is either that, or status/interference protection

Maybe sync countdown

[swift swan]

I have flameproof on him I think I had him tank some LA

[onyx ice]

I rolled deluxe cookies and ended up with healthy healing

Not bad for gauntlet

At least now that SS diantha is a thing, SS Brock is finally useable

[keen jasper]

Now we just need rock type rebuff

[onyx ice]

1/5 SS diantha is enough to carry rock so far

[latent eagle]

C’mon man!!!

If only Courtney hit first

[nocturne pawn]

i just brute forced it with anni n but this cs is kind of annoying

[austere quest]

I had no problems with it

Offtyped for Will and Lance

Killed 3/5 pre-first sync

Karen, Lance, and Koga

I used SS Diantha for Karen with C Blue and Roxanne, very easy and clean clear although I would have lost Roxanne early because she got wore down to 1 HP from Tanking

I think my team would like a better lead who can tank more and also support. But for Ontyping it seems good enough maybe

[nocturne pawn]

ah yes premier rock dps i dont have

meanwhile im trying to do this with olivia

[swift swan]

Olivia works just fine. You just want sand and max speed for her

[nocturne pawn]

the issue is that i cant

i guess i can use royal

[swift swan]

No 2/5 Olivia at least?

[nocturne pawn]

but then i dont have anyone to max her atk

[swift swan]

Acerola/Hilbert or Sonia/Olivia is a staple

[nocturne pawn]

because acerola is for sand

[nocturne pawn]

i already used hilbert and sonia isnt 3/5

[swift swan]

Hmmm I guess that's still fine. Sonia handles attack buffs and Olivia buffs her own crit

[nocturne pawn]

wait never mind

im good

[latent eagle]

FINALLY

[nocturne pawn]

ok lance was easy

lmao

i got 8k because i cant be assed to try on bruno

[latent eagle]

Aaaand now I'm struggling against lance

[nocturne pawn]

lance was simple because i have ss leon and a power boosted cyrus

[latent eagle]

Cool, I only have EX cyrus!

[nocturne pawn]

ex cyrus still works

just need to pick the right modifiers

[keen jasper]

You mean grids?

[nocturne pawn]

for cs

[versed meteor]

Sync move one shots max defence groudon

[devout sluice]

I only had to offtype Will with SS Steven because there’s no way I’m wasting Gio.

Plus I have terrible poison units.

[nocturne pawn]

so does everyone else

i dont even know how they expect us to 2k will on type

[keen jasper]

Looker is pretty good for Will

[devout sluice]

If I have him

[keen jasper]

And I still don't have Hilbert for 9.5 months now

[mellow linden]

Wdym, you have Roxie and Lucy

Also something something Koga slander

[devout sluice]

Well… ya about that… they get taken out quite easily

[mellow linden]

How so? No AoE moves get used until Will goes down and by that point Roxie’s Poison Jab should be like a 2HKO at most on the opponents

Roxie + Lucy + Sonia is what I used and it worked great

Might need to do some resets so you can get quadqueue on a round other than 4 though

[formal musk]

i also poison stalled till they die

[bleak vine]

Oh so Poison Will is just annoying for everyone I thought it was just me

[devout sluice]

That’s another option I would’ve done but I decided to do the faster route.

[bleak vine]

Me: wait.. there's no poison support??

Stares at the units I have

[mellow linden]

You don’t need to run a monotype team

[bleak vine]

I know, it's something I just noticed

[mellow linden]

Fair enough

Anyways, Lucy + Roxie is a good duo, can recommend

[hot shadow]

BPJanine says what

[mellow linden]

Oh yeah

[bleak vine]

Oh yeah

Oh well, it's done, I should nab her

[spring fable]

ty for recommending it last week, they cleared 2k easy

[mellow linden]

Yeah, it was even easier than I thought it would be

[swift swan]

I should try out Roxie some time

But I'm just too comfortable with ss gio

[mellow linden]

Can recommend. Her main issue is that she pretty much has to choose between regular move damage and Sync nuke, but that’s easily remedied by slapping a pair who can handle the other one on the team

[bleak vine]

I also decided to try Naomi this week and dang I been sleeping on her

[mellow linden]

Oh yeah, Naomi’s great for Ground weak stages

[spring fable]

11k poison jab from roxie

after support ex sync

[mellow linden]

I figured

Can’t wait for Poison gear to boost them even more

[sinful garden]

i had to use plumeria + ssleaf + champ calem but thats really not f2p friendly

[swift swan]

You just... Poison stall

[mellow linden]

Or Roxie + Lucy + 3/5 Hilbert or Sonia

Hop and 2/5 Aaron can probably work too

[swift swan]

Stalling has always been a free option

I think Aurochs did a full 10k MM f2p stall run

[spring fable]

#1011675077764456519 message

[swift swan]

There we go

[main crow]

I just stalled tho I prefer BP Erika just to be more annoying lol

[versed meteor]

If i ex misty does this team last till my 3rd sync?

[nocturne pawn]

do you really need 4 buffs tho

[versed meteor]

Feels like an experiment i want to try not sure if its worth the 50 champ spirit

Does cyrus nuke sides with 2 buffs

[void wyvern]

Cyrus nukes sides with 0 or 1 buff,

[rotund lagoon]

Level Cyrus to 120 tho

[versed meteor]

He only nuked one of the side with 2 buff

[rotund lagoon]

Level him up then.

[versed meteor]

Do levels actually make that much of a difference i sometimes think that from level 115 above does the same thing

[rotund lagoon]

I think 120 is better than 115

[void wyvern]

Having more stats is not a bad thing.

[mellow linden]

120 is generally the minimum for content

[misty turret]

What can I use against Lance 2k? I crossed the pairs already used :3

Tried Anni raihan, SS Brendan and azu but doesn’t work

Dps missing. Nuke and Dyna isnt enough

[rotund lagoon]

Am I blind or do I not see Cyrus?

Oh I see him

Nvm lol

[zealous karma]

Zinnia ssbrendan AniRaihan

[full mesa]

Or Xerneas/Cyrus/SSBrendan.

[zealous karma]

AniRaihan is more used as a hybrid support unit if that makes sense where after a support Ex sync you use AniRaihan TM and then after the sync use max move and then someone like zinnia would most likely one shot center mon

[void wyvern]

Another good option is Anni Raihan cyrus and crit buffer.

[misty turret]

Ok I will try that. Thanks!

[void wyvern]

Just use Raihan’s tm with weather up before Cyrus’s sync and it should do a lot of damage

[misty turret]

Yeah, It was very easy :’) thanks y’all 🫡

[zealous karma]

What’s wrong with zinnia 💔

[latent eagle]

I cannot beat MM Lance

[zealous karma]

Do you have Cyrus or zinnia?

[latent eagle]

Yes to both

[waxen surge]

Would this be fine against Bruno? (Once lvl up ofc)
I also have sycamore and xerneas but it wasn’t showing for some reason

[zealous karma]

I’d use smth like Cyrus a crit buffer and lucian

Wow

[void wyvern]

Rosa doesn’t provide anything for your team. Switch her out for a defence buffer.

[mellow linden]

Adding to that, you don’t need to run a monotype team

[zealous karma]

Ugh was so confident she would kill

[mellow linden]

Is that 3k points or something?

[zealous karma]

It is

Maybe I should’ve used holijasmine this

Yeah I think I’ll do that

Why is Roxie’s DPS like really good

Ex when DeNA v

[mellow linden]

Good base power, good modifiers, iirc solid Attack stat

[zealous karma]

404 Atk lvl 125

Crying

[nocturne pawn]

[zealous karma]

Am I dumb for relying on a 30% flinch chance maybe

But Aaron got 2 goated flinches for my dawn clear

[undone brook]

question, is brock or olivia a better sync nuker here?

[mellow linden]

Olivia, and it’s not even close

Easier to set up, better stats

Way better regular move damage

[undone brook]

frick

[mellow linden]

I honestly wouldn’t even use Brock if you have 5/5 Olivia

[undone brook]

ok i should've asked before resource dumping brock LOL

[zealous karma]

I’m pretty sure even if you max out brocks sync Olivia still hits harder

[mellow linden]

Eh, level 120 is cheap

[zealous karma]

4* is too

[undone brook]

fair

[nocturne pawn]

if ur just looking to clear get inertia on olivia’s grid and shes clapping it

[zealous karma]

Crying

When you DPS is good but not good enough

Tbh it’s super impressive that an F2P unit can even 3K imo

[nocturne pawn]

this is no def parameters right

[zealous karma]

It’s strength 12 max hp max power on hit gauge -2 def 1 all Atk params

[nocturne pawn]

so nothing that reduces damage that much

[zealous karma]

I hate that this is so doable and yet to far from completion

Fridge!

[void wyvern]

What round are you doing this on?

[mellow linden]

Reasonably sure your odds will improve if you max the team’s Attack/crit

[zealous karma]

Her sync did crit lel

[zealous karma]

4

[mellow linden]

But with that 80% chance, how many Poison Jabs didn’t crit

[zealous karma]

None

[void wyvern]

Why are you only doing TM twice?

[zealous karma]

Because I’m getting unlucky with Sonia MPR

Also Roxie boosts her crit lel

[void wyvern]

B-But the two attack

[mellow linden]

Ah, right

I totally forgot she does that, I’m dumb

[zealous karma]

Yeah this is definitely been apart of that

I’ve came close

[mellow linden]

I even used her Trainer Move during my 2k, I dun goofed severely

[nocturne pawn]

im surprised lucy’s been critting for 22k

[zealous karma]

She didn’t crit for 15K

[void wyvern]

Lucy can hit about 59k max.

At least when I last tested her

lemme do some more tests

[zealous karma]

Now Roxie’s doing 7K

Wth

[void wyvern]

Is that higher or lower?

[undone brook]

Is Darach or Olivia a better sync nuker here? Thinking of bringing him to make more stone edges hit and to reduce enemy's attack

[zealous karma]

Like 2K higher

[mellow linden]

Olivia can max her accuracy with 1 use of her Trainer Move

I’d recommend Acerola as the 3rd team member for Sandstorm

[zealous karma]

Olivia has a better sync but she also wants sand

[nocturne pawn]

dropping attack doesnt help that much on karen anyway

use acerola over darach for sand

[undone brook]

I AM SO FRIGGIN STUPID TYSM

[undone brook]

ah

[nocturne pawn]

does persian gio buff speeds

cuz if he doesnt then im inclined to say like use hilbert or smth

[mellow linden]

It’s easy enough to overlook since the usual mindset is “I don’t need to cover crit because my Support does that”

No big deal

[zealous karma]

Angry ambiguous creature

[drifting sleet]

What is pre-sync/post-sync clear?

[mellow linden]

Pre-Sync means you’re aiming to clear before the opponent Syncs, post-Sync means you don’t really care or are aiming to clear after the opponent Syncs

[undone brook]

he does not and i do not have hilbert 😭

[nocturne pawn]

this is just for a first clear right

[undone brook]

what's a first clear?

[nocturne pawn]

as in this isnt master mode

[undone brook]

no, this is

and i have kiawe

he should work, right?

[void wyvern]

When Roxie said “ugh” I could hear you screaming

[mellow linden]

I wouldn’t recommend Kiawe, personally

[undone brook]

o h

[mellow linden]

He doesn’t give as much Attack

Is Hop available, or are you using him elsewhere?

[zealous karma]

[undone brook]

what about hop?

nope, still abailable

wow i can't type

so try it with him?

[mellow linden]

Hop + Olivia + Acerola is a tried-and-true team for Rock weak stages

[nocturne pawn]

hmm

personally i think aaron is a wee better

but hop is also free

so there is that

[mellow linden]

Since Olivia isn’t EX you may want to target the sides with Stone Edge and Sync nuke the center

[undone brook]

used aaron earlier in the run

[nocturne pawn]

oof

aaron is really good for olivia though

[undone brook]

i'll give hop a shot, thanks guys!

[nocturne pawn]

since it means she only needs to use her buffs once

good luck

[zealous karma]

I have really good luck

What in the world

[nocturne pawn]

mfw too big

[undone brook]

managed to get 2 syncs off, but karen's first sync wiped the whole team

should i try going for the middle first?

[nocturne pawn]

yeah

[undone brook]

actually screw it, i'll give that a shot

alr

[nocturne pawn]

if the sides dont have a sync buff

they arent that dangerous

[undone brook]

will take note

[waxen surge]

Recommendations on who to bring as def buffer? This is for Bruno

[nocturne pawn]

aaron because his tm is just good

and defense order

also heal order can heal your teammates too albeit a bit less

[mellow linden]

Can bring Skyla

For Potion + Speed buffs as well as the Defense buffs

[zealous karma]

I beat the stage swagger champion

Believe it or not it was easy

[undone brook]

so two syncs did not do enough and lycantoc went down to the twister right after

[zealous karma]

Lucy and Roxie are really good wow

Is olivis gridded?

[undone brook]

should i queue potion for olivia before they queue sync?

[undone brook]

yeah

i'll send the grid

[zealous karma]

That is odd

[undone brook]

i think i used hp ^2 param

that

might have something to do with it

[nocturne pawn]

oh

ew

[undone brook]

lemme move it around

[nocturne pawn]

hp parameters are bad

[zealous karma]

How could you tell that lel

[undone brook]

hm?

tell what

[nocturne pawn]

they make you take longer to kill shit which means you’re less likely to kill shit on time and it’s rough especially if you dont have a striker ex

[waxen surge]

Is lyra fine to bring or should I switch? (Ignore lvl and orders)

[nocturne pawn]

uh

dont really see a big problem with it

[mellow linden]

Try this one instead since Olivia isn't getting any outside Speed buff

[nocturne pawn]

maybe a bit redundant with skyla

but idk

[zealous karma]

Lyra works on that team but you can bring another grass striker

[nocturne pawn]

^

[undone brook]

will give it a shot

[waxen surge]

Ahh ok

[mellow linden]

I'm almost certain the reason your Syncs didn't KO is because you likely only had +2 Speed for the 1st Sync

Which is a significant drop

[zealous karma]

Your Olivia grid does seem fine maybe change your parameters to the one featured in the pins for pre sync?

[undone brook]

i'll mess with that a bit too then

hm

ok gonna try taking one out, and just sync nuking the mid

that worked, thanks a bunch guys!

[void wyvern]

Great work!

[drifting sleet]

Is there an appreciable difference in the teams you build for each?

[mellow linden]

Sometimes

It's largely personal preference

[latent eagle]

I cant freaking beat MM lance

[toxic cobalt]

Who is your striker

[dusty path]

Good example is bug weak. You might use Lusamine for pre-sync but almost never post-sync, unless you max Def/SpDef buffs and opponent Atk/SpAtk debuffs (whichever opponents sync is)

[toxic cobalt]

Post-sync is when my pre-sync team makes a mistake but then somehow survives

[void wyvern]

Post sync is fun, but you have to plan for it in advance.

[latent eagle]

EX cyrus

[void wyvern]

Okay, can we see your team?

[latent eagle]

It's 2/5 will/5/5 EX cyrus and I'm trying to find a crit buffer who doesn't immediately die

[dusty path]

When I started MM, I never knew pre-sync was an option 😅 Then I joined this server for LG tips and looked at this channel too

[void wyvern]

Why in the world are you using will.

[mellow linden]

Wait, why Will?

And Cyrus doesn't need a crit buffer, he can just be gridded for Critical Focus

[void wyvern]

gotta activate water pulse confusion synergy somehow

[mellow linden]

So you could do something like Cyrus/EX Sycamore/a Defense buffer

[dusty path]

And reset for first crit or something, yeah...

[zealous karma]

why a def debuffer

cyrus is special

[mellow linden]

Defense buffer

[zealous karma]

idk how i read that4

[toxic cobalt]

Why defense buffer when you can run Winona?

[void wyvern]

Because lance is dragon weak.

[toxic cobalt]

riiight I knew it was this week

[void wyvern]

Unless hydro pump Cyrus is just genuinely better.

[toxic cobalt]

In rain it might be

but minimally

[latent eagle]

I meant Lucian! Sick brain go brrrrr unfortunately

[mellow linden]

Ah

That makes more sense

[dusty path]

You got his grid expanded?

[void wyvern]

for a moment I almost brain cells

[toxic cobalt]

Cyrus Syacmore and Ramos

No need to quadqueue

[mellow linden]

EX Sycamore can probably work for the Support if you've yet to try that

[latent eagle]

Trying to to MM well sick isn't fun....

EX sycamore is already used

[mellow linden]

Ah, fair enough then

[toxic cobalt]

Cyrus Roxanne and Ramos

[mellow linden]

Roxanne probably works, yeah

[latent eagle]

I hate using any wide guard user, my timing is CRAP

[toxic cobalt]

Don't use wide guard

[void wyvern]

Not there for the wide guard. Roxanne is an excellent buff bot.

But if you want to show us your supports, we can come up with a team.

[toxic cobalt]

I just came up with a team

[void wyvern]

You’re right, my bad. Sorry Aurochs

[toxic cobalt]

Although Elio may be better than Ramos given no Sycamore

[zealous karma]

Elio has 90 sing chance

Ramos has a 100% chance without troublermaker

[void wyvern]

Ramos is just better!

[latent eagle]

Teams already done and my supports

[dusty path]

Elio for the SpDef and extra 2 SpAtk / 1 Spd (use TM at 1 gauge)

[toxic cobalt]

Roxanne is already 4 star

[void wyvern]

Roxanne 4*? Based

[toxic cobalt]

Speed Special attack is so rare

[void wyvern]

Like no else does it together.

@latent eagle

Use Cyrus, Classic red and Drake, grid Drake for sharp entry 1 and grid cyrus for critical focus and both critasrophe. Use red’s tm before the first sync and use red’s tm when the enemy is on 2 cooldown so you can sync again before them with Cyrus and it will clean up.

[zealous karma]

why drake

oh

[toxic cobalt]

this is a way more complicated way of skipping quadqueue than Elio

[void wyvern]

Yeah. You’re right. Just use Elio.

[toxic cobalt]

One day I will have Red

[dusty path]

Enemy on 2 cool down, like... Sometime after your first sync?

[void wyvern]

Cyrus doesn’t kill mid with first sync. Just pop red’s tm when you’re at 4 cooldown/the enemy is at 2 and boom. Sync.

I just explained it poorly.

[dusty path]

Oh sorry right, his TM does SEup next, doesn't it? Forgot about that part

[void wyvern]

Seup, and sync accel

[dusty path]

I am confused about Drake and gridding him for critastrophe when he's not syncing tho

[void wyvern]

I meant Cyrus.

[latent eagle]

Y'all are giving so many team's I'm getting overwhelmed 😵‍💫

[void wyvern]

Alright. Start with this.

If this doesn’t work. We’ll try something new.

[latent eagle]

What are the grids needed?

[toxic cobalt]

Cyrus needs his critastrophe and sharp entry is nice

[dusty path]

Oh okay both critastrophe nodes on Cyrus' grid 😅 Is Drake's grid team sharp entry or something?

[toxic cobalt]

Roxanne needs her mpr

Oh and Cyrus wants his sync nodes

[dusty path]

And critical focus

[toxic cobalt]

I assume those are all on the basic spark grid

[latent eagle]

Let's hope I got the sync orbs

[toxic cobalt]

Ungridded Cyrus?

[void wyvern]

[latent eagle]

Nope but I already have 3 grids on Cyrus so I need to do 4th one and I'm not sure if I have the orbs to do so

[toxic cobalt]

Doesn't cost orbs to make a new grid

[latent eagle]

I always forget about character orbs.....

[void wyvern]

Once you’ve used the orbs they become character specific!

[drifting sleet]

Should I use SSLeaf for Bruno or save her for toxic stall?

[latent eagle]

Can some share pics of the grids I need? I don't wanna mess this up lol

[mellow linden]

She’s better suited for Poison stall. You have SS Erika + Brendan for Grass damage-dealers

[toxic cobalt]

F

[drifting sleet]

So I should upgrade brendan? Got it

Do I use him or erika?

[toxic cobalt]

Brendan needs the Dauntless llucky skill

[mellow linden]

Can use both

[toxic cobalt]

Once he has that he is a completely self-supporting striker

[mellow linden]

And bring a solid gauge Support like Skyla for the 3rd teammate

[void wyvern]

Here’s a Cyrus grid you can use.

Here is a semi budget Roxanne but we can go even more budget.

[toxic cobalt]

Call that Roxanne grid budget? You use two inner circle tiles when you could just use one.

[dusty path]

That's the "we can go even more budget"

Oh and Joey, if you tap in empty space (not any nodes) the bottom bit goes away, better for a screenshot

[void wyvern]

Thank you for the amazing information.

[drifting sleet]

So I shouldnt use him if he doesnt have it?

[toxic cobalt]

If this is hard mode you can probably just use SS Erika

[void wyvern]

I’m gonna be honest I spent 3 minutes looking at the grid until I realized you meant the center hexagon.

[toxic cobalt]

~~That's like, what, 10 ~~

[drifting sleet]

MM 1.5k

[void wyvern]

You save 5 orbs

[latent eagle]

What about ramos's grid does it matter?

[toxic cobalt]

He is just there to press sleep powder

[dusty path]

Probably only try to skip every second move, it's safer, and still 5 moves per move

[void wyvern]

Make sure to do sleep power 3rd in the order so you get maximum value.

[latent eagle]

Who should be the one getting hit I'm guess Roxanne but I be wrong lol

[void wyvern]

You’re right

Roxanne gets the job done as a tank.

[dusty path]

Sleep powder 3rd and before sleep powder happens, queue your other 2 again. Then opponent queues a move

You move 5 times for opponent move once, 5 moves per move instead of normal 3

Pentaqueueing

[latent eagle]

Yeah no teams not working I hate sleeper team's

[dusty path]

You do have to keep an eye on the sleep status condition for which one's gonna wake up first, that does get really annoying

[toxic cobalt]

Generally they recover too fast

Sleep is just a more reliable flinch

[latent eagle]

Again I hate sleeper team's + I'm sick af atm I do not need to be struggling with a sleeper team well sick

[toxic cobalt]

What do you mean?

It's a braindead team you just click the moves as they are available

[dusty path]

You could sub in Elio for Ramos, less reliable sleep but got SpDef buffs?

[latent eagle]

Gauge bar is at 4 so I can barely do stuff and can only sleep middle

[toxic cobalt]

That is enough but I'm also not seeign why

You have +6 speed

Rend->tm->sleep->rend->tm, rend->tm->sleep->rend->tm, sync->tm->sleep->rend etc.

Can do water pulse first turn instead of rend if needed

[latent eagle]

Can't kill b4 sync

[toxic cobalt]

Can you screenshot?

Are you using sync reduction params?

[latent eagle]

I'm using pre sync parameters

And again the timing/ gauge is crap means Roxanne keeps getting hit bc I can only sleep lance

[toxic cobalt]

Are you following the moves I wrote above?

[latent eagle]

Yes but again gauge is crap and I can only sleep middle leaving Roxanna being attacked by sides

[toxic cobalt]

Really will need a screenshot or video, it shouldn't be crap at +6 speed

Sleep mid then sleep right then sleep mid works every time they don't choose to use their single tm unprompted

[vital gazelle]

does the ally healing down param affect restoring strike on chalem

[old orchid]

Yes

[vital gazelle]

ty

[latent eagle]

^^^^

[dusty path]

Don't use ancient power unless you have excess gauge and you want to move along the sync countdown

Hang on I'll see if I can try it and look for other problems and tips too

[old orchid]

Do you have OG Serena?

[dusty path]

Oh yeah viral sleep instead of Ramos

[latent eagle]

Sleeper team isn't working at all

I've tried Serena

[old orchid]

But seriously, why do you struggle even with boosted Cyrus?

[latent eagle]

Damn its almost like I told y'all I don't do sleeper team's and yet told me to use one

[toxic cobalt]

It's not a sleeper team, the sleep is just disruption

sorry i'm stuck in a meeting shoudl be able to watch video after

[dusty path]

Which of the 4 round parameters you chose?

[old orchid]

Should use the round 2 param

Lance uses special right?

[dusty path]

In that case should not use round 2

@latent eagle And what, standard pre-sync parameters from the pins?

[old orchid]

Forgot that Lance has Critical Shield before sync

[swift swan]

he does?

man and here I thought fire-weak Koga was the only pushover with crit shield

[latent eagle]

Special damage reduce

[dusty path]

Before his sync, yeah

[latent eagle]

Didn't mean to send immediately

[old orchid]

I just know that he has 1 min ago

[dusty path]

So round 1 and 2k pre-sync from the image?

[old orchid]

Can do Roxanne - Cyrus - Lisia, use Defog when Lance sets shield

But requires quad queue incase Lance's sync hits too hard

[dusty path]

And hope twister gets the right flinch

[old orchid]

Actually any Defogger work

[latent eagle]

But the pre-sync parameter but remove no status con, no status red, alley healing and gradual healing into additional strength and other things they can be replaced w/

[old orchid]

Nah dont add strength

It makes the stage harder

Your team doesnt use debuff or status conditions

[latent eagle]

I'm not doing a sleeper team so they might bc I need a different team

[old orchid]

Can you try this team?

Use either Lisia or Darach, preferly Lisia

[keen jasper]

Nah Darach since Lance's main damage is physical

And he has Feather Dance, but Lisia is fine too if you want to flinch with her

[old orchid]

Lance's basic moves are special

This team is going to pre sync Lance so no need for attack debuff

[latent eagle]

Both lisia and darach are lvl 100

[old orchid]

Can you level up Lisia to at least lvl 120?

[raw halo]

So what ended up happening at the start was rend missed

[old orchid]

Move level doesnt matter

[raw halo]

I’d run it back but I would also use Roxanne’s TM first

[dusty path]

I did it with the Roxanne Ramos Cyrus team (Cyrus is 145 other 2 125, not sure how much difference that made but there was plenty of wiggle room)

[latent eagle]

Cool, still get messed up by sync

[dusty path]

Can do a video if you want, just need to know how to do the video 😅 (Don't have nitro and haven't used YouTube or anything before)

[old orchid]

If you dont want to use sleep, use the team i mentioned above

[latent eagle]

Again I'm not good with sleepers why is that so hard for any of you to understand

[dusty path]

The sleep is wiggle room. If you do it perfectly, you can probably sync 3 times before their sync. But you don't have to do anything close to that

I'm just trying to help you better understand a team that was given to you. If that can help you with sleepers, even better

[latent eagle]

And I'm telling you I don't do sleepers and repeatingly telling me about them is making me frustrated because you're not listening to me

[toxic cobalt]

You should play at a slower speed, you're missing moves beacuse of the speed. Don't be afraid to use water pulse if you can't queue a rend.

[latent eagle]

I am playing at a slow speed, the slowest speed is too slow for this

I'm honestly just thinking about resetting again but holy f**k I don't want to do koga again

[toxic cobalt]

You're playing at x2, and are missing some moves which is why they are reaching sync

[latent eagle]

It's also bc I'm not good at sleeper I've been telling you this

Like how many times am I gonna have to repeat myself?

[dusty path]

The speed is the main issue with that video. Give yourself time to think. I can hardly manage with 2x/3x at times

If you want, you can do BPMorty Lucian Cyrus, pre-sync with 'no stat reductions' and 'half healing' traded for max HP 4 or something

[toxic cobalt]

Sleeping has nothing to do with it, you're not queueing well, that will affect every battle

[latent eagle]

how many times am I going to have to repeat myself, I'm not good with sleepers

[latent eagle]

It does tho-- bc sleep stops the attacks

[dusty path]

No sleep, just set up defenses and astonish/potions, growl, Cyrus' TM twice and rend (yes, you'll have to potion Cyrus at least once)

[toxic cobalt]

Sleep isnt meant to stop all attacks, as i said before. it's disruption. Basically flinching.

[rotund lagoon]

Does Lance need a status condition or something?

[dusty path]

If you're using BPMorty and Lucian you could even post-sync

[rotund lagoon]

Cause I’m curious as to why you’re using sleep in the first place.

[dusty path]

Lance

[rotund lagoon]

…wrong name.

Anyway, my guess is no?

[dusty path]

Sleeping as a disruption, letting you do more moves per opponent move

[toxic cobalt]

Because if anything it helps make up for missed queues

[dusty path]

Basically quadqueueing without quadqueueing

[rotund lagoon]

I see •.•
I guess I’ve never thought of that since I’m usually good at queuing lol

[toxic cobalt]

Also helps sync before crit shield

[rotund lagoon]

Does Lance have as much resistance to flinch as he does to sleep?

I saw the Lessen Sleep 8 so I was wondering.

[toxic cobalt]

most stages do

anyway you're thinking of sleep wrong, sleep is basically a more reliable flinch

[nocturne pawn]

sleep flinch confusion and trapped are all just disruption type statuses right

[toxic cobalt]

Sleep is anactual status

[rotund lagoon]

Sleep is a status condition while Trap and Flinch are status changes

[dusty path]

@latent eagle How did this team work out for you?

[toxic cobalt]

Someone hasn’t read pins in my f2p clear thread

[paper summit]

gasp

[dusty path]

Does Lance have sync stat reboot or something? I swear my BPMorty Lucian Cyrus run just then his Atk and SpDef just reset to 0

[dusty path]

Oh 😅 Thanks

Okay so probably don't try to post-sync, that'll be annoying...

[toxic cobalt]

Poison nightmare

[rotund lagoon]

[latent eagle]

Well I was finally able to knock out sides but lance synced and then I wasn't doing damage so--

[dusty path]

Ah right, not grid expansion. I'll have a look again now

How close were you to dying before Lance's sync?

If you want to, you could try with round 2 parameter? That'll help damage everywhere

Or round 4 is probably better

[latent eagle]

B4 lance synced I think I pretty much had full health

[dusty path]

Okay... Can you try same team with round 2 or 4 parameter pls?

[latent eagle]

Trying w/ 4 now

Pure luck that I was able to beat it

[rotund lagoon]

Full stamina

[swift swan]

spend that stamina

[zealous karma]

So I beat 3K Will

However

The game for some reason didn’t count it

I have the video of the clear

[dusty path]

Yeah I tried with round 4 and a pre-grid-expansion grid, took more luck than I would've liked

[swift swan]

[rotund lagoon]

Did the game exit out or refresh or something?

[zealous karma]

I was already in the rewards gotten screen pressed a

[rotund lagoon]

Wtf

[zealous karma]

I have the 3K video

But do I redo the 3K or clear the stage without any params

[latent eagle]

Reset is literally in like an hour or so, so I'm waiting

[zealous karma]

Just spend 100 now

[civic trellis]

I always spend a little bit

[rotund lagoon]

Spend something

[civic trellis]

So by reset im very close to being full

Atleast on days w new events

[zealous karma]

I’m just going to beat the stage without any parameters

Trying to redo the 3K and not even recording is way more effort

[dusty path]

20 stamina is 1h20m, just do that

[latent eagle]

Why tf do yall want me to spend my stamina, I'm not gonna get much from spending a small amount rn so--

[swift swan]

you're not gonna get much but you're also losing out on regenerated stamina

just a huge pet peeve of mine

[nocturne pawn]

its just

[swift swan]

feel free to ignore if you really don't want to I suppose

[nocturne pawn]

spending for the sake of spending

because its efficiency loss or whatever

[civic trellis]

Use it on the event or smth

[nocturne pawn]

though it doesnt matter in the long run because this game’s event lasts so long

[latent eagle]

Like this entire server is so god damn pushy in trying to force ppl to do stuff

[dusty path]

Admittedly it is hard to ignore if the whole convo shifts to telling you to do something

[latent eagle]

Thank you!

[rotund lagoon]

We can’t control your phone, man.

[grave wyvern]

No one is trying to force you to do anything - they are trying to help you.

Whether or not you chose to take that advice is up to you

[dusty path]

I guess people not understanding why you're not doing something can make them confused (sure does that to me) then we try convince you that's just the best option or something

[latent eagle]

Yeah by repeatingly telling me to do something making it feel forced, like you're all so pushy about this despite me saying I don't want to spend my stamina yet some of you are still telling me to do so!

[dusty path]

If I had to look at what I've been doing, probably that

[rotund lagoon]

I just feel like it helps to be informative, ya know?

We’re here to help and giving information is how we help.

[latent eagle]

I don't need information when I didnt ask for it

[grave wyvern]

The helpers are giving that advice based on them being experienced players of the game; they were likely assuming you didn't know that spending stamina is the best way to get the most out of it. If you don't want to spend it, then that is fine.

[rotund lagoon]

We’re not mind readers either.

[latent eagle]

I'm not a noobie I know stamina gets me stuff!

[latent eagle]

^^^^

[grave wyvern]

Okay, then that's fine. But like I said, plenty of people don't know that much about stamina and the helper staff naturally defaulted to giving that advice when they saw your full balance

[toxic cobalt]

There’s no advantage to waiting for reset to spend stamina, that’s why the standing advice is not to waste it.

[grave wyvern]

At the end of the day everyone is just trying to help as best they can with the information they are given.

[latent eagle]

RESET IS IN AN HOUR OR SO, MEANING I SEE NO REASON TO SPEND ANYTHING STOP TRYING TO FORCE ME TO SPEND MY STAMINA WHEN THIS CHANNEL IS ABOUT CS

[rotund lagoon]

Okay, we get it…

[grave wyvern]

Chill out

[latent eagle]

You really don't seem to tho-- I've said my reasons and yet so we're still trying to get me to spend stamina

[latent eagle]

No bc you guys don't listen and I'm fed up with it

[grave wyvern]

So what do you want?

[civic trellis]

Jc what r u going to spend it on? The next stamina event is 6 resets after this one

[nocturne pawn]

its just advice

you can follow it or not

no one is able to or is forcing you to follow that advice

at the end of the day its your choice

dont get upset

[latent eagle]

The current events! Getting stuff from the events!

[nocturne pawn]

because we are simply trying to provide help with what we’ve been provided

[latent eagle]

^^^^^^

[civic trellis]

[latent eagle]

You literally just saw my stamina from a screenshot of my MM clear i did not ask for help about stamina

[nocturne pawn]

its just advice

you can follow it or dont

its really not that much of an issue

[toxic cobalt]

You can do that with the stamina you hav e now. In the end, people are offering advice on how to utilise the game a bit better. If you do not want to do so that is fine, but please don't expect people not to offer advice if they see something that can be improved.

[latent eagle]

advice I did not ASK for

[grave wyvern]

This topic is getting nowhere

@latent eagle do you have any other CS questions?

[latent eagle]

Like I did not ask for advice no not give it, end of story

[latent eagle]

No I'm good, thanks! I got my MM clear

[primal field]

I am at the point where I am able to do 4200 pts a week easily, so should I go for higher points or focus on the building more mons b4 attempting?

[grave wyvern]

Good. Next time, please keep in mind that this is a server of volunteers trying to help to the best of their abilities, and they do not deserve rudeness. Good luck with next week.

[nocturne pawn]

i think you should try 6k

its not that much of a step higher

compared to 4.2

[toxic cobalt]

If you can make it to 7.5k, that's more to build more! It'a a very virtuous cycle.

[nocturne pawn]

or 7.5k is also a nice goal

[primal field]

From the chart in pins what is pre, post and stall in points table?

[nocturne pawn]

pre means you want to kill before the enemy syncs

[bright scarab]

How's everyone dealing with Lance's Dragonite? He's feeling super bulky and strong this time around and without an EX'd Cyrus or Zygarde in general, he's hard to take down at 10K. That total condition and stat reset is

[nocturne pawn]

post means you kill after they sync

stall is a war of attrition via toxic poison damage

[rotund lagoon]

Cyrus is still good, may just be a team comp problem.

[latent eagle]

I'm allowed to be upset and get angry when ppl don't listen to what I'm saying and give advice when I did not ask for it but that's all I'm gonna say on the matter, heres to hoping next week is better

[nocturne pawn]

i just blasted him with ss leon and cyrus with ccalem being a sacrificial pawn

not really that helpful ik sorry

[zealous karma]

He didn’t one shot angry ambiguous creature

[toxic cobalt]

If you can run some interruption such as sleep or flinch, or some form of reducing your sync counter,
you can try and get in a second sync before he raises his shield

[bright scarab]

I've tried with Cyrus and Lucas (Lucas unfortunately is only 1/5) and my only other support EX is Blue but Dragonite is just so defensively strong that my boys were dying before nuking. Lance's Sp Def guard and Crit Guard also are thorns

[bright scarab]

That's okay. I'll try to get Leon next time he's offered

[nocturne pawn]

eh you shouldnt

its not really worthwhile and that was just my method for the path of least resistance

cyrus is still fine for lance dragon weak

and yeah try to kill before he sets up crit shield

or you can try using a defogger and go post sync

[bright scarab]

Fair. I ended up scooting my difficulty down to 9500 total by the end of it, so I can't be mad. I find I'm always lacking in Champions spirits which we can only reliably get at the end of a CS challenge (I'm just eager for that first 10K win)

[toxic cobalt]

defogger another good option

[dusty path]

Well that sounded like an automated message 😂 I'm not excusing myself, because I was part of it, but us volunteers would do well to be not automated and adapt to the situation. If a person wants to not do something we suggest they do, we should try to think of something else (instead of sleeper team) or leave it be (stamina)

[old orchid]

i came up with an idea of defog team but they ignored me

[nocturne pawn]

oof

[toxic cobalt]

You'll get there! 9500 is really close.

[swift swan]

interesting how new players are lacking in champion spirits these days

lodge is just giving a surplus of huh

[toxic cobalt]

We live in such bountiful times

[paper summit]

Not newbies giving 20 regular PUs to a pair

[zealous karma]

Not older players giving 20 regular Pu’s to a pair ~~oh wait ~~

[paper summit]

Well, I have tons and still don't do that

I stop at 15 these days

[zealous karma]

I do

I do a lot of things I say not to

[paper summit]

I could EX like 5 pairs right now actually lol

[zealous karma]

so I can give testimonials to not do it

I only have 20 Pu rn I think but I’m saving for Diantha

I hand 5 custom power ups saved

[paper summit]

Yeah, you are our resident bad decision maker

[zealous karma]

It’s more fun that way

[swift swan]

same, I've been doing 5:15

[trail smelt]

I always only exchange 5 honestly

[dark osprey]

if I could EX 5 pairs at a moment & have most EXed, would go for 3:17 or something since generally I would be pulling 1 or 2 new units per month

[drifting sleet]

If I dont have dauntless for brendan, what's a good supporter for him?

Alternatively, what's a good team to build around erika/leafeon?

[dusty path]

If Brendan doesn't have dauntless, you could go with a SpAtk buffer and only use their XSpAtkAll/TM after every leaf storm

What round are you doing (I'm guessing Bruno) on?

[old orchid]

do you have other grass options?

[dusty path]

Here

Dawn can tank for sure

And I'm not completely sure, but you could try to go with another sun user to help SSErika

[old orchid]

SS Erika is way better than Brendan

SS Erika - Lyra - Dawn should work

[drifting sleet]

Round 2

[drifting sleet]

Will try this

[old orchid]

wait

do you plan to use a special dmg dealer in other teams?

cuz round 2 is ideal to use a special dmg dealer

[dusty path]

With it being round 2, you could try to replace Lyra with Silver for Solar Beam and Solar Blade. While that does mean fully self-buffing, it should be alright. Just remember to sunny day when you're anywhere from 6 sync countdown so you have solar flare

[drifting sleet]

Hmmmm will try that

I forgot that silver gets solarbeam kek

[dusty path]

Or swap with round 3/4 if one of those you plan to use a special damage dealer

[drifting sleet]

Silver can't set his own sunny day right?

[dusty path]

Only on sync

He makes it sunny just after his sync

[old orchid]

i recommend this because SS Erika is way better than SIlver's Solar Beam

[dusty path]

I'm guessing you did Will round 1?

If so, your only special rock or ground damage is classic blue hyper beam or something, or Naomi/May

[drifting sleet]

No I did karen lol

[dusty path]

Well then... Wait no you probably don't want to do Will round 2. He's mostly special, isn't he?

[drifting sleet]

Yee

[dusty path]

Well then, you could try to do Koga round 2 with Naomi and/or May for the special damage buff? If you're struggling with Bruno round 2 using physical, that is

Lodge Sycamore is good with special grass damage, do you happen to be close to getting him?

[drifting sleet]

Nope

I could probably make it work w sserika, just need to pick a team

Alternatively I could try brute forcing it with a neutral ele special attacker?

[dusty path]

Well what's your best offtype special attacker?

[drifting sleet]

Uhhhhh

Anni N?

[dusty path]

Oh XD

Yeah that'll do

Which one do you want to try with first? SSErika or Anni N?

Or... Both? I don't see why not

[drifting sleet]

These are my highest sp atk

Normally I'd wanna use Lillie but her 4gauge is kinda eh

[dusty path]

Unfortunately, Anni N can debuff a lot and that takes 12 or something turns on top of buffing///

CSerena easy win for sure

[drifting sleet]

Ye but I kinda wanna save cserena

[dusty path]

Alright

I mean this will be interesting... Ghetsis and Anni N, most likely with a speed buffer like Skyla

[drifting sleet]

I think skyla gets oneshot by Bruno's sync

Or she did the last few attempts

[dusty path]

Don't let him get to sync XD Or at least noble roar

[drifting sleet]

Oh hm

Noble roar...

Why ghetsis

[dusty path]

Make sure you grab double drop on ghetsis

He's a good SpAtk'r and can help speed up debuffing for Anni N?

[drifting sleet]

Ah ok

[dusty path]

So you could stay noble roaring with Ghetsis (3 times center, maybe once or twice each side but that might be unnecessary), then TM twice and glaciate. Anni N can buff then start blue flaring. Skyla buffs and gusts until potion is needed (can get gust staggering grid node for a bit of extra wiggle room if you have sync orbs)

[drifting sleet]

Kk lemme try xd

Oh but wait I was planning to use ghetsis for lance...

Oh wait no im mixing him up w cyrus kek nvm

[dusty path]

No problem :}

[keen jasper]

Kinda expected more NGL, but this is still stronk enough

[dusty path]

I just realised now but yeah, she probably would... Bruno is rock type

If you're not using Sycamore elsewhere, you could use him here (he is good against Will though, so maybe Roxanne) For the Spd and SpAtk. Roxanne brings Def too

[marsh crater]

whats is ss diantha lucky skill?

Crit 2?

Can i do karen, skyla ss diantha ss brock?

[dusty path]

I would say yes

What round?

[old orchid]

SS Brock doesnt have crit buff tho

unless you use him as a flinch bot