Champion Stadium

[mellow linden]

So I would at least hope they took the time to get 3 maxed pieces

[steel kelp]

So literally no excuse

[zealous karma]

I went to sleep lel

[mellow linden]

Oh, that wasn't directed at you, lol

[zealous karma]

O lel

[verbal karma]

I could only do the minimal gridding for Bugsy

and absolutely no gridding for Noland

[void wyvern]

You still have a week to gather resources.

[mellow linden]

Don't bother trying the team if you can't get the grids, just off-type or Poison stall if you want to clear the fight today

[verbal karma]

Hold on, got 1000 more univeral orbs thanks to battle points

What else to add to Bugsy?

Or grid out Noland instead?

[mellow linden]

You won’t be able to get Noland’s minimum if you haven’t done any tiles on him yet. Either wait until you can get the grids on both or just off-type/Poison stall

[verbal karma]

hmm...I assume Bugsy's grid is good enough, though?

[mellow linden]

You want that 2nd Sync base power tile

[verbal karma]

ah, that would explain why Bugsy hit like a wet noodle

[mellow linden]

If you can’t get the whole set then the team won’t work

At this point, if you want to clear the fight today, then off-type or Poison stall

If you’re fine waiting a few days to finish the grids then try the team

[lunar meadow]

I like Kanto and Johto CS because I can practice with units who are usually "bad"

Like if Honchkrow had "dire hit+" instead of "dire hit", I feel like he'd be a whole tier better.

(Also, all units should have EX!)

[void wyvern]

Even Sawyer has his all but limited uses.

[lunar meadow]

I think Honchkrow's kit is fantastic, minus the crit buffing speed

High chance to buff team defenses when he attacks, and a flinch move.

Move gauge support, some buffing support.

[void wyvern]

Sawyer’s biggest issue is that he’s a master of none. But it does make him stand out in comps where the striker is almost self sufficient with buffs.

[full mesa]

“a jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.”

[lunar meadow]

Honchkrow is best used as a secondary support.

A damage dealer that just needs a little buffing, and a support that needs a little extra.

But I think having EX and dire hit upgraded, he'd be a very solid A tier support for LG runs.

As it stands, probably a high C tier right now

[peak stirrup]

Who can I run vs Koga? Here are my flying types

I also have Leon if he’s a better option

Round 4

[rotund lagoon]

Blue should be decent enough to be the damage dealer to clear it.

[zealous karma]

You can run blue SSB (any cri support) and Kahili

[zealous karma]

The stage has wise entry

Iirc

[rotund lagoon]

Lemme see real fast

[zealous karma]

It does ye

Sync first with blue then second sync with kahili make sure to grab super prep on her TM it’s been a consistent F2P team for me

[peak stirrup]

Who’s the support?

[void wyvern]

SSB or Falkner

[rotund lagoon]

Wasn’t able to check at that time anyway T_T

[dusty path]

Or... Both?

Oh maybe Falkner's buffs aren't needed

[zealous karma]

SSb is for easier gauge falkner is for theme skills and to make kahili and bkue shorten their setup

[dusty path]

Ah sorry, I forgot shortening setup is good in CS, I'm on LG brain

[marsh crater]

I need to cover ice, bug, ground, electric, normal, rock, poison, grass, fighting. 9 total. Oh man

Ice i can use ghetsis, right?

[mellow linden]

Since it’s just Hard Mode it’s not that bad, especially since 2 of those 9 types are types that a fight is weak to

Ghetsis works for Ice, yeah

[rotund lagoon]

I think we should worry first about the type stages.

[marsh crater]

For electric maybe pikachu

[mellow linden]

Which Pikachu?

[marsh crater]

Yea the stages is a headache to figure out

Mc pikachu

[mellow linden]

Use Hau instead

[marsh crater]

Hau?

[mellow linden]

Hau + Alolan Raichu

If you don’t have him keep doing the main story

[rotund lagoon]

Then you can adapt the teams based on the damage dealers

[marsh crater]

Oh raichu hau

[mellow linden]

And yeah, better to focus on the damage-dealer you’re building a team around first

So Hau for Lance when you get to him

[marsh crater]

Ok so for dps i built so far

And support

[mellow linden]

If you can screenshot your roster from the move level menu that would be ideal

Rather than just listing who you've already built manually

[marsh crater]

Support

Striker

[mellow linden]

That's not the move level menu, but it works

[marsh crater]

Tech

Move level?

[mellow linden]

Yes, the one on the far right of the top row on the menu options

Move Level

It doesn't really matter now, but for future reference

[spring fable]

kirby is blind

[marsh crater]

Been thinking to make sabrina another support. Reflect seems good.

But yeah already have enough support for full roster i think

[mellow linden]

So, you can build a team around:

• Noland for Karen

• Sidney for Will

• A. Steven for Koga

• Giovanni for Bruno

• Hau for Lance

[marsh crater]

Just to assign dps for each elite for

[mellow linden]

That covers Bug and Electric purely with your damage-dealers

[marsh crater]

I think can replace sidney with my already built c.serena

[spring fable]

will has wise entry

[mellow linden]

Sure

Champ Serena's Dark move is physical

[spring fable]

ah yes

[rotund lagoon]

She’s not good in Dark DPS tho

Only nuke

[mellow linden]

Anyways, for some Sync Pairs to help fill other types, Roxanne is an easy choice for Rock, you can pair Hau with her

[marsh crater]

Yea i can setup her sync dark move

[mellow linden]

It's Hard Mode, it should be fine

[rotund lagoon]

Even in Hard, it still sucks

[marsh crater]

So i need to build nolan and hau. Do i need their sync grid too? Sync orb is really a problem now for me

[mellow linden]

Ghetsis can be slotted in on a random team for Ice, for Ground just randomly slot in Hapu or Clay somewhere, for Normal you have Whitney or Norman for a filler slot, Lucy or Koga can work for Poison, Rosa works for Grass, and Maylene can do the job for Fighting

[mellow linden]

For Hard Mode you should be ok without grid

Worst case scenario you can off-type Karen and use Aaron to fill Bug type

[marsh crater]

All their level should be 100 at least or should be more?

[mellow linden]

120 for everyone you use here

Keep in mind you have a whole week to do this, so it's not a big rush

[marsh crater]

Oh dang. Ok.

[warped thunder]

If koga was ice and karen was fire I could've make a N run

[spring fable]

are there any entries not stated in passive for next week?

[mellow linden]

There's no boosted defensive stats, no

[spring fable]

ty

[mellow linden]

I think Koga and Will are the only ones who screw around with that in Johto CS

And only on some variants

[spring fable]

i would like some assistance with regards to teambuilding for next week cs pls

i think all of them are physical

[mellow linden]

I stand corrected, Lance on his Water weak variant has slightly boosted defenses

[spring fable]

except lance

[spring fable]

its ok, that one has passed

[mellow linden]

In terms of damage they deal or in terms of damage you want to deal to them?

[spring fable]

in terms of damage they deal

since they have no entries, i can choose freely between physical or special right

[marsh crater]

So my roster would be
Will = c.serena, hop, mc solgaleo

Koga = A.Steven, Skyla, norman

Bruno = giovani, koga, rosa

Karen = xerneas, noland, ghetsis

Lance = Hau, roxanne, c.calem

Mc solgaleo is fighting?

[spring fable]

steel fighting

sunsteel strike is steel
focus blast is fighting

[marsh crater]

Oh maybe can put bea sirfetchd

[mellow linden]

Solgaleo is Steel for type medal purposes

[spring fable]

oh medal

[mellow linden]

Run Maylene instead of Champ Calem alongside Hau against Lance

[mellow linden]

On center's moves next week, Lance is special (except Sync), Karen is mostly physical (Twister is special), Bruno is physical, Koga is physical, and Will is mostly special (Sync and Bullet Seed are physical)

[spring fable]

mhm

[mellow linden]

Anyways, Maylene is a Fighting type and should give Hau enough crit for Hard Mode

[spring fable]

need some teambuilding help for next week

[mellow linden]

You sure you want to start now? It's still a week away

[spring fable]

i usually start around this time... is it ok? since the channel is not that busy

[mellow linden]

It should be fine

[spring fable]

ok, this is what ive put tgt so far, would like to challenge 2k

ignore mcchu

[mellow linden]

You have 3/5 Hilbert?

[spring fable]

but ive basically slotted in my DDs according to their weakness

i do

my dillema is

[mellow linden]

Can do Lucy + Roxie + Hilbert for Will then

I'll be trying that team myself next week

[spring fable]

okie

[mellow linden]

Now, what Sand setters do you have?

[spring fable]

i was thinking of slotting hilbert, hop and calem into koga bruno karen

[zealous karma]

Lucy uses spAtk I thought

But physical sync

Because good game design

[spring fable]

sand setters just acerola and bertha 1/5

[mellow linden]

In a Roxie/Lucy/Hilbert team Roxie is regular move damage and Lucy is Sync nuke

[zealous karma]

Ah

[mellow linden]

That's fine. What move level is Cynthia, and do you have Courtney?

[spring fable]

1/5 cynthia, no courtney
went with cynthia cause she's my only 5* striker

[zealous karma]

Do you have Bertha?

[spring fable]

i do

[mellow linden]

Hmm, may want to consider off-typing Ash if Cynthia doesn't work

[zealous karma]

You can slot her into that team tk make cynthia only have to use TM once can bring someone to max Atk which many can do

[zealous karma]

I think she’ll be fine it’s Johto after all

[mellow linden]

Olivia should work if she's 2/5 or higher

[spring fable]

she is

[mellow linden]

Acerola/Hop/Olivia

[spring fable]

do i want kukui in there?

[mellow linden]

EX Olivia would make it a lol-tier fight, but she should still work without EX

[mellow linden]

Hard to fit him in without sacrificing Sandstorm or forcing Olivia to spend a lot of turns buffing herself

Could be a backup team member if Hop/Olivia/Acerola doesn't work

[steel kelp]

Kukui is just a worse Olivia

[spring fable]

okie

[zealous karma]

For Bruno do you have skyla (swanna) and Brendan (sceptile)

[mellow linden]

For the Cyrus team, I think Roxanne can work fine

[spring fable]

brendan 2/5

[zealous karma]

Perfect

He gets ramming spd at 2/5

Brendan skyla Eirika for Bruno

[spring fable]

thought about using lyra but she's weak to physical

[zealous karma]

I’m currently shaking my first at Bruno because I have horrible luck

Which Lyra?

[spring fable]

normal lyra

[zealous karma]

O

[spring fable]

cause ss erika has sun

[zealous karma]

She can work in that team if she’s ex

After her sync Brendan and Eirika will prolly destroy center lel

Because Lyra has a pretty good sync

[spring fable]

do i wanna sync with erika or brendan

[mellow linden]

If Brendan is EX probably him, if not definitely SS Erika

[spring fable]

okie

for roxanne for cyrus, will she work at 4* lvl 110?

[mellow linden]

Level 120 minimum, should work if you can clear fast (which is likely since you have Cyrus and Lucas)

[spring fable]

okie!

[mellow linden]

If anything is wonky when you do the fights, we can workshop the teams then

[spring fable]

okies

[zealous karma]

What an ugly background

[steel kelp]

Question how would double elesa be

[spring fable]

are there any bare requirements for will?
roxie hilbert lucy comp

[steel kelp]

What

[mellow linden]

You'll need to grid Roxie and Lucy, I assume Hilbert is already gridded

[spring fable]

roxie and lucy are both 4*s

is that fine?

[zealous karma]

Star rarity doesn’t matter lel

[spring fable]

oh nice

[mellow linden]

Yeah, they should both be fine at 4-stars

[spring fable]

what is roxie's role here

ive nvr used her

[mellow linden]

Roxie's goal will be to spam Poison Jab

Hold on, lemme go to pomatools to show the grids

[spring fable]

oh thanks cobalt

would 1/5 looker's poison jab be better

[mellow linden]

Looker can probably do solo damage-dealer, actually. But in case you use Roxie + Lucy here's the rough grids you'll want to go for

[zealous karma]

Her sync is better on type 💔

[spring fable]

thanks cobalt!

[dusty path]

Which Elesa's? There's 4

[zealous karma]

Idt she needs hostile environment (Lucy) it’s already a 50% from poison fang imo at least

[toxic cobalt]

Roxie is better than Looker?

[zealous karma]

Yeah

Unless looker is Ex bht if Roxie had Ex she’d out preform him

[mellow linden]

Eh, she doesn't need anything else from grid for Sync nuke build and it means you don't have to reset for RNG

[swift swan]

currently planning my L teams for next week and Will has grassy terrain on sync

[zealous karma]

True I was thinking of grabbing toxic power but that’s not for sync so rip

[swift swan]

this is screaming SS Leaf poison stall

and I'm gonna pair her with Variety Lucas who has team solar immunity. have him sync repeatedly so I don't get poisoned by Will's HE1 Sludge Bomb, and I'm gonna grid SS Leaf with Healing Sun

this is such a big brain move

[mellow linden]

Anyways, I've done Triple Elesa (SS/Lodge/Classic) for Electric weak CS since dupe trainer update dropped, for those who were apparently curious about multi-Elesa strats earlier

[swift swan]

if only the rest of my teams next week were big brained like this

[mellow linden]

The real big brain for me comes on Week 4 with Hail Overload

There is zero way Hail runs out for me

[toxic cobalt]

Is Koga this week a physical or special attacker?

[mellow linden]

This week he's special

Venomoth is not known for physical moves

[toxic cobalt]

I'll have you know that all bug and poison moves were physical

[zealous karma]

Not bad

She has a better grid than I thought

Wait she doesn’t have CS

[toxic cobalt]

Alright I have a vauge plan for CS this week.

Let's hope it works

[latent eagle]

Alright so this is my second time going past 1200 for MM, I don’t need the full 10,000 just up to 9500 is good enough for me (I need the spirits) but I’m not sure what units or what order to do them besides using SST Red for Lance and probably throwing Ash at Karen as I don’t got many good bug types (at least I don’t think so…not good at telling what’s a good unit lol)

[swift swan]

...I was planning to use Lt. Surge's Eerie Impulse to stall out a stage but why are all four stages physical next week

reaaaally regretting my challenge run decision now lmao

[mellow linden]

Lusamine + SS Elesa + Skyla can beat Karen since your Lusamine and Skyla are EX

I've done it before

[toxic cobalt]

You have SS Ethan EX I'm confident he can just beat down the doors of Koga wise entry schmise entry

[mellow linden]

Also SS Hilda is a win button somewhere, depending on preferences

[zealous karma]

For the future I’d only just include your 5*’s takes up less room and makes it easier to gauge which units you prolly do and don’t have I also struggle looking at the sync pair tracker lel

[dusty path]

Yeah I used SS Ethan Lysandre Skyla for 2k, worked just fine

[toxic cobalt]

Phsychic is easy just run Giovanni, Dark is easy just run Nessa+MR

[dusty path]

Didn't even notice wise entry x2

[zealous karma]

Was it frustrating to do because from my experience lusa wants duo strike

[mellow linden]

Karen should be an obvious pick for Will

[mellow linden]

As long as Lusamine crits her Sync against Karen you're pretty much set. My Lusamine does have the Super Powered 3 Lucky Skill now, but CS2 works as well

Oh, it is round dependent

Round 2 is super easy to do it with

[toxic cobalt]

I cannot see Karen how blind am I

[dusty path]

I'm starting to think my team picks weren't exactly... Optimal... XD Just overpowered it all

[mellow linden]

It took me a bit too, don't worry

She's right under Pryce

[spring fable]

what she doing down there 👀

[toxic cobalt]

I can only see that Karen

[mellow linden]

Oh wait, A. Skyla is there. Koga's a lol-tier fight then

[dusty path]

Oh Umbreon is 3rd row

[toxic cobalt]

Why was Pryce easier to find !?!

[mellow linden]

A. Skyla + SS Ethan

[toxic cobalt]

Karen EX yes that one

[dusty path]

Pryce wasn't greyed out by move level menu

[zealous karma]

I see lel

[mellow linden]

The ol' reliable comp of Hop + Masked Royal + Nessa can also work against Will

[zealous karma]

I have a negative exp with lusa to say the least

[mellow linden]

Though it's not as good as usual since Will starts at +4 Defense

[toxic cobalt]

Alright so full 10k it is. I don't even know how you get to 9500.

[mellow linden]

Bruno is

[spring fable]

considering yall are vets that started before we had more good pairs, how long did it take yall to do your first 10k run?

[dusty path]

Just checking the order (and if my order was good or not XD) Karen Koga Bruno Will?

[mellow linden]

I started doing 10ks like a few weeks before Sinnoh's 1st run

Because I was scared of Master Mode for a long time

[latent eagle]

It’s easier to just take pics of all units for team building for me lol + ppl usually ask “do you have ___ ” or complain I don’t have ___ (when I do) if they don’t see it

[toxic cobalt]

When I started it was 7.5k. I could not do more than like 3k for a few months, then I joined this server and was taught to 7.5k within a week or two.

[toxic cobalt]

Put your weakest pre-sync team Round 2

[zealous karma]

I would be that person that asks if you have an F2P unit but even then you can never be to sure lel

[spring fable]

woah

[dusty path]

I only did that because I have Skyla EX for the support EX buff

[gilded stream]

I unlocked the master mode. If I reset the CS now will master mode stays ?

[latent eagle]

Why is it underlining my message 😂 guess I found a new discord text thing

[dusty path]

Yes

[toxic cobalt]

It's just general advice!
Don't do Bruno R1, do your weakest R2. Other than that, this week isn't very eventful.

[gilded stream]

So I unlock and do master mode in same week?

[toxic cobalt]

Yep!

[dusty path]

I did Will R4 because dark has a lot of flinch (I slept them but either way)

[gilded stream]

Nice. Thanks guys.

[mellow linden]

Anyways, to recap:

• Do round 2 Karen with Lusamine + Skyla + SS Elesa if you want to on-type, otherwise round doesn't matter.

• A. Skyla + SS Ethan will make basically any fight lol-tier, so Koga is no issue.

• You can do either a Karen team or ol' reliable Hop/Masked Royal/Nessa for Will, Karen is probably slightly better.

• Bruno is because Giovanni + Bianca + a Sp. Atk. Support.

• Lance is also because 1 or both of the OPikachus

[dusty path]

But okay, I just thought do a support EX in Sync Buff Buff, but doing weakest pre-sync there makes sense

[toxic cobalt]

Doing Support EX there is adding damage to damage. You want to use it to provide the effect of support EX to a team that doesn't have support EX.

[latent eagle]

Okay so R2 is Karen, who for R1 R3 and R4?

[mellow linden]

Bruno could be a good Round 3 if you use Sabrina with Giovanni + Bianca

Round 1 and 4 are semi-dead rounds depending on what team you use for Will

[swift swan]

Remember R3 makes it hard to quadqueue

[mellow linden]

Well, I guess Round 4 works well with A. Skyla

[mellow linden]

That's why I said Bruno would be good if they use Sabrina

Because she can reapply Reflect

[latent eagle]

My teams (order is not final obviously, it’s just how I have my preset teams set up)

[dusty path]

Oh yeah, keep it going through Sync instead of disrupting quadqueue

[mellow linden]

You'll want to use Giovanni or Lear

[dusty path]

How much will Gio Lear struggle with gauge?

[mellow linden]

Because otherwise one of them is missing their buffs

Or in Lear's case is forced to spend too many turns self-buffing

You can replace one of them with Sabrina and you should be golden

I'd recommend replacing Zinnia with an actual Support on the Flying team

For the Dark team, commit to either a Karen team or a Masked Royal team, right now you're spreading the team too thin

[swift swan]

that's actually very big-brained

[mellow linden]

Only actual complaint about the Lance team is that Sonia's offensive buffs are wasted, but unless you wanna run her on a Masked Royal team she's not being used elsewhere, so she's fine

[dusty path]

I find Sidney is a good dark damage, might want to replace Karen there to use the Def debuffs from Masked Royal?

[mellow linden]

I'd say Nessa and Hop Replacing Karen and Sycamore respectively if they're gonna do a Masked Royal team

Ol' Reliable of the Dark teams

[latent eagle]

Better?

[dusty path]

Or just screech instead of Masked Royal, but then there's no Atk debuffs (is that necessary for Will this week?)

[mellow linden]

Much better

I have my own beef with SSA Cynthia being paired with OPikachus, but that's not important right now

[white gale]

If your Sonia 3/5 then she can replace hop

[mellow linden]

Yeah, that's true

Doesn't matter much, but it is something that can be done

[latent eagle]

Should I see if Nessa can be lvled up or should she be okay at 120? Don’t think I can tho— used most of my lvl up stuff for the up coming LG

[dusty path]

Bug team good, Electric of course, Psychic (from other people here) sounds like it'll be good and Dark the same. Flying will work fine, just wondering what you'll be doing with SSEthan before first sync (I assume Sycamore Sync)

[mellow linden]

120 should be fine

[latent eagle]

When in doubt I just use the third anni trio they cheese a lot for me

[mellow linden]

If it works it works, I just see her there and my brain automatically goes "But she can be used with a Fighting damage-dealer instead!"

It is instinctual

[latent eagle]

So what order should I do the battles?

[mellow linden]

Round 2 Karen and Round 3 Bruno are locked in, I think

Which would place Will for Round 1 given the remaining teams

Just make sure you do 1st Sync with Skyla and use SS Elesa's Trainer Move (on Lusamine) right after 1st Sync against Karen

[latent eagle]

So Will R1 Karen R2 Bruno R3 and koga R4?

[mellow linden]

I think that's the best order given your teams, yeah

[latent eagle]

👍

[dusty path]

Lusasmine's TM for healing when needed? Or for evasion (and crit) to start with?

[mellow linden]

Best used twice at the start for crit

[dusty path]

Healing and save Skyla's potions for the others?

Ah okay

Well then you don't need to wait until after 1st sync for SSElesa's TM

[mellow linden]

The reason I say to use it then is so that you don't need to quadqueue

Because of the Sync accel

[dusty path]

Ah right

Fair enough, makes that easier

[mellow linden]

SS Elesa's 1st 3 turns will be spent buffing Sp. Atk. anyways

[dusty path]

Assuming you get a MPR

But yes, that makes more sense

[mellow linden]

If you don't get an X Sp. Atk. MP Refresh then you reset, simple as that

That's what I do, anyways

Anyways, best of luck to y'all, I gotta get sleep

[toxic cobalt]

I don't even like pairing the OPchus!

[dusty path]

Sorry for keeping you up fixing my comments XD

[dusty path]

OPkachus?

[spring fable]

red and ash

[dusty path]

No yeah I knew who they were, just adding 'ka' to the name

[latent eagle]

Will is kicking my ass

[spring fable]

kick his

[dusty path]

What round?

4?

[latent eagle]

I'm trying 😂

[latent eagle]

1, will is R1 Karen R2 Bruno 3 and Koga 4

[toxic cobalt]

Which team?

[dusty path]

And what parameters are you using? (I've been taking all bottom 4, all strength, Hp+2, perma reflect and light screen. I'll try with that now I guess)

[white gale]

this is MM I presume? Are you triple queuing? Are your units gridded?

[white gale]

I wouldn't recommend that

[latent eagle]

Yes and yes

[dusty path]

I know there are much better ones, I just couldn't be bothered scrolling through it XD

[white gale]

are you using pre-sync paramters? @latent eagle

first 3 turns for Hop or Sonia should be TM (with hopefully a refresh). first 3 tunrs for Nessa is TM/Lock Jaw x 2

first 3 turns for TMR is TM x 2, Brutal Snarl, then Sync

and try to quad queue, then you will get your second sync before he gets his first and for sure he will die

[gilded stream]

First time trying 7.5k MM. cleared bruno and karen with ease but for will n koga my flying and dark roaster not looking good… from screenshots whom should I pick as main damage dealer and what is the optimal setup for them?

[dusty path]

Hmm yes... My experience just now really wants SpDef buffing, not Def

[latent eagle]

Yes

[toxic cobalt]

Zinnia is fine, she needs attack crit and speed

[white gale]

What move levels are your 3 units

[dusty path]

You probably won't want Blue AND Zinnia on same team, both want mega (unless you're flinching with Blue)

[latent eagle]

These are my teams, I already went built them w/ someone else (order isn’t correct but that’s just how I have my preset teams set up)

[white gale]

yes I saw that, but this doesn't show me move levels

Is your Sonia 3/5?

[toxic cobalt]

Are you just jaw locking every turn ?

[gilded stream]

That’s AI suggested team of course I not running them on same team.

[white gale]

Never use Optimize

[latent eagle]

2/5, you can see all my units move lvls when I shared all my units

[latent eagle]

Yes

[gilded stream]

Noted

[dusty path]

Why are you asking Sonia, she's not in the teams XD

[white gale]

just stick with Hop since she's not 3/5

[toxic cobalt]

Hmm that should work

[white gale]

what move levels are your TMR and Nessa?

[toxic cobalt]

Shouldn’t matter

[dusty path]

Is your hop surviving? Psychic hits kinda hard

4 and 2

[white gale]

maybe it's a paramter issue then

[toxic cobalt]

Or Hop not getting his MPr

[latent eagle]

Will is my first battle

[latent eagle]

He is

[toxic cobalt]

Are you syncing with MR?

[white gale]

did you follow what I wrote above?

[toxic cobalt]

Six jaw locks and one sync should be more than enough

[white gale]

first 3 turns for Hop should be TM (with hopefully a refresh). first 3 tunrs for Nessa is TM/Lock Jaw x 2
first 3 turns for TMR is TM x 2, Brutal Snarl, then Sync

[latent eagle]

Most likely but I'm doing the pre sync parameter so--

[white gale]

you could skip Nessa's first TM too

[toxic cobalt]

Can you screenshot when you sync?

[latent eagle]

If I can get to sync b4 hop dies

[dusty path]

Hop can disable quadqueue...

[toxic cobalt]

Hmm that is interesting. Try removing the half heal parameter and add an extra strength

[toxic cobalt]

Team is too good it doesn’t need it

[dusty path]

Don't need 2 syncs?

[toxic cobalt]

Nah

Nessa can do it without MR so the MR sync is just extra security

[dusty path]

Hmm maybe I just don't have Masked Royal gridded XD

[latent eagle]

I’m pretty much following the pre sync parameter

[toxic cobalt]

Wait Hop is dying to a zero attack parameter?

[latent eagle]

Ye unless he’s unless he’s not supposed to be the target, no one told me who should be the target so it’s hop

[toxic cobalt]

Target is Hop that just shocks me

[dark osprey]

maybe get Hop gridded for that Wise Entry at least. that jynx does hit hard with tough cookie or something like that

[latent eagle]

That might be it, think he's currently only guided for potion refresh

[dark osprey]

not much of a wise entry tbh but still helps

i think its wise entry 1 or something

[toxic cobalt]

You can skip one jaw lock before your sync and use Nessa’s tm instead if Hop needs a turn to heal

[dusty path]

I don't suppose you have someone like Elio?

[white gale]

you do have 3/5 SS Morty that you're not using on any other team. he's not that synergistic with TMR/Nessa, but with his bulk and buffs he won't die anytime soon

[dusty path]

SpDef and Atk's

Or just replace TMR for Nanu or any other screecher

[white gale]

Elio does'nt increase Crit unfortunately

[latent eagle]

W/I hop's crit buff masked royal ain't doing it

[dusty path]

Keep Nessa as damage, grid her for nuke too and replace TMR with nanu
Only problem then would be speed...

[white gale]

if Hop uses his TM 3 times, then the whole team has maxed Att and Crit

[toxic cobalt]

Hop is the way to go, just gotta get lucky

[dusty path]

Okay so Hop is offense support. Any defense support other than some potions? Or are you trying to just plow through?

[toxic cobalt]

Okay you could switch MR out for Elio at a pinch

Make up for speed and damage loss with some tactical sleeps

[latent eagle]

AAAAAAAAA FINALLY GOT LUCKY AND BEAT WILL, now onto the other 4

[white gale]

congrats!

[dusty path]

SSmorty raises crit with TM under sun

Ah, nicely done!

[white gale]

I think your other fights will be easy (exept maybe Lusamine... don't let opponent sync)

[latent eagle]

Idk how I did it bc I SWEAR will was about to sync b4 a move could hit him but he died b4 he could sync

[white gale]

hey a win's a win!

[latent eagle]

True! I wasn't really paying attention to the queue after hop didn't die b4 I could sync so there was probably an attack queued b4 will could sync

[dusty path]

When you get him 3/5, Sidney is a great physical dark damage

[latent eagle]

Beat karen, bruno time it's not looking good

[austere quest]

Yeah Alder is sort of not great

I am literally always doing more damage with SSBert

Both in dps and in nuke

It’s crazy

[swift swan]

whaaat, Alder's hyper beam never fails me

for best results you just run Alder and Techbert together with a good gauge support

[white gale]

You'll kill Bruno with psych terrain and lear. Sabrina is a little frail to phy attacks keep in mind

[dark osprey]

and people have forever been hating on Guzma

[latent eagle]

I'm trying

It's not really working

[dark osprey]

tank with Bianca probably

using Sabrinas reflect as well

[swift swan]

if it's R3, you get physical damage reduction screen at start for free

so use Sabrina's reflect later on

[dusty path]

Use reflect before sync so you can quadqueue on sync

But yes, last move cycle (last move if anything) before your sync

[white gale]

Lear already has sync acceleration so you can do 2 syncs before enemy does 1

[dusty path]

Damage numbers aren't the focus here...
When enemy sync looks like it got rid of you, but On The Run procs and you still have your endurance (must've left me on 2 HP)

And no, I didn't clear it using this team this time either... Idk man, I can't be bothered trying this right now. I already got 10k this week...

[swift swan]

how the hell Lusamine still survived is beyond me

[dark osprey]

that's blasphemy

no attack debuffs as well

[dusty path]

Well... EX, SCJasmine's SpDef buffs... That's about it. A low roll (One try I got a lower roll, had more hp after the sync somehow)

[latent eagle]

I'll try against Bruno again in a bit, iPad needs to charge and I just realized the time and still haven't showered today oop-- if anyone could leave tips for me to read when I get back that'd be great!

[dark osprey]

with Lear, Bianca and Sabrina. it should be pretty straightforward. just need to tank a few hits at the most.

[latent eagle]

AAAAAA finally beat Bruno

[swift swan]

[fiery agate]

Barely got through hard mode and unlocked master mode, is it a lot more difficult?

[verbal karma]

1910 universal orbs now...use them to further build Bugsy or use them to build some of Noland's grid?

[toxic cobalt]

It depends on the settings you use! Generally it’s quite doable once you learn the tricks needed but you can slowly build up to max points

[fiery agate]

Can I send the pairs I have so I know how to build the teams

I understand the mechanics but I just have so limited pairs

[toxic cobalt]

CS can be fully cleared with just free pairs

What were your hard mode teams? Suggest building from those rather than starting anew

[fiery agate]

Hard mode was forced because I need to fill all types

It’s also a pain to level them up thanks to the stamina system

[hot shadow]

Note: you can get free exp for characters if you put them on a team you skip sync orb area and such stages with.
Use it to slowly level up previously unused characters to 100.

Also, going past 120 is not really needed, you need so many resources for low stat gain. Content can be cleared at 120 just fine.

[fiery agate]

Yeah I do that everyday

[fiery agate]

Ok

[hot shadow]

Go level up Hop and Skyla, amazing supports

[fiery agate]

Not enough 4-star tickets for Skyla haha

So even lv120s are sufficient for 10k? Or I need to be more patient

[mellow linden]

120 is generally enough. Runs may be smoother with higher levels, but especially for Johto you can clear with 120 well enough

[zealous karma]

120 is enough

[fiery agate]

Great, I now have a more realistic goal then haha

I cleared hard mode with this

And ofc i will switch out the obviously misplaced pairs

My prelim plans are:
Koga: Skyla, Blue and Rayquaza
Will: No change
Karen: replace croagunk with Guzma
Bruno: replace Xerneas with Girafarig
Lance: ggez

[verbal karma]

Almost 😦

[swift swan]

In general it seems like you're set

[swift swan]

You're planning Caitlin as the sole damage dealer? Imo just build your Giovanni ASAP to have a much easier time

[fiery agate]

My dps seems reli low, I’ll assume it’s because I’m not applying strategies correctly?

[fiery agate]

Fair enough I forgot I had him lmao

[mellow linden]

Why’re you not using Sure Crit

[fiery agate]

Is there also a strat on what conditions to pick for master

[swift swan]

With that Bruno team, Blue needs 3 uses of his TM (which he can only access at 2/5 anyway) to give Caitlin max crit

And you need to have max crit on your damage dealer

It gives 1.5x multiplier and bypasses damage reduction screens and positive defensive buffs

[fiery agate]

I think he’s on either 2/5 or 3/5

[verbal karma]

...who has higher sync damage, 5* Bugsy with Blind Spot or 5* Noland with Inertia?

[fiery agate]

Nevermind he’s on 3/5

[swift swan]

If you feel like DPS is low, high chance you're not constantly critting

That Karen team is an example

[fiery agate]

I guess the win can be further secured if I use Giovanni

[swift swan]

Unless Cynthia is 3/5, she can't buff crit. Meaning Lusamine needs 3 uses of her TM (so needs 1 MPR)

[mellow linden]

If you’re gonna Sync with Noland then you need to replace Bugsy

[fiery agate]

Cynthia’s 1/5 I see the problem

I’m broke on candies tho, should pairs with dire hit be the solution?

[swift swan]

Yes

Get someone to buff Lusamine's crit

She can buff her own of course, but takes 3 turns to max it

[verbal karma]

well, I am syncing with Bugsy right now, and...well, you have seen the results

[fiery agate]

I see

[verbal karma]

that's why I am asking

[fiery agate]

Would Giovanni Persian help?

[mellow linden]

I think the difference is minimal since both are Megas, anyways

Lemme check

[dusty path]

Giovanni Persian would be great instead of looker there

[swift swan]

yeah, that can work

[dusty path]

Even raises Lusamine's SpAtk

[mellow linden]

Yeah, you’re literally looking at the only difference being like 4 points of Attack between Noland and Bugsy

Since their only Sync modifier is a standard “more X is raised, more damage is dealt”

[verbal karma]

ah, I see...hmm...what is my Bugsy's sync grid missing then?

[fiery agate]

Looker was just filler to get the poison badge

Ok I’ll start on this team first I’ll see how it goes

[dusty path]

Yes I know you're going to get rid of him, I'm just saying the other two are probably good to stay

[old orchid]

Do you have Lusamine? Can use her as dps with nuke Bugsy

[mellow linden]

Dude, at this point just off-type

I’m assuming you have a maxed set of 3-star gear, correct?

[verbal karma]

I tried Lusamine as well, albeit in a different team, and that didn't work

[verbal karma]

absolutely NONE of my 3-star gears are truly maxed out

[mellow linden]

Sigh

Off-type or Poison stall

[swift swan]

damage comparison between their nukes

pretty similar

[verbal karma]

okay, Bugsy is definitely better

[swift swan]

it's really just by 100k, but sure

is your Sonia 3/5? she can probably help with defense debuffs

[mellow linden]

And for Arceus’ sake, the next time a gear event rolls around, max the gear

[verbal karma]

She is 5/5, even

[mellow linden]

Try Sonia instead of Aaron and turn off No Stat Reductions then

[verbal karma]

I have almost all the 3 Star gear at least fully Limit broken

[old orchid]

So try her with Bugsy now

And you have Sonia too

[verbal karma]

The only 3* gear that isn't Limit broken is dark-type

[dusty path]

If you have gear limit broken, just grind for a tiny bit and max them

[mellow linden]

I was using Aaron in my tests because cheap gauge cost since the team had no gauge Support, Sonia is definitely better and would mean you can run Lusamine’s Lunge for higher damage than Noland’s Fury Cutter

[dusty path]

Maybe not all at once if you don't want to, but ones that are beneficial at the time

[verbal karma]

ah, so Sonia/Lusamine/Bugsy?

[mellow linden]

I would definitely try it, yeah

[swift swan]

grass gear event very very soon

[mellow linden]

Beautiful, my Grass team will be even more overkill

[fiery agate]

Cries in new player

[dusty path]

What worked for me was Karen R1 with Aaron Viola Bugsy

[mellow linden]

Only a little over a week until the next one, you don’t have to wait much longer

[swift swan]

either this, or Sonia/Bugsy/Noland still

maybe Bugsy can nuke and Noland can ramp up fury cutter

[dusty path]

Oh, next gear event confirmed?

[mellow linden]

It’s in #1012256199128915968

[fiery agate]

I did max out the electric one which is neat. Can’t wait for the next one

[mellow linden]

Grass gear event

[swift swan]

damn was just about to link to datamine summary

[swift swan]

ok I never actually use Noland so idk how much Fury Cutter ramps up

[mellow linden]

Insert Sonic “You’re too slow!” here for comedic effect

[mellow linden]

It ramps up a decent bit, enough to clear

[verbal karma]

...wait

hold on

I won't be able to use Sonia's defense debuffs

I have "No Stat Reduction" on

[dusty path]

Then turn it off XD

[mellow linden]

You can turn off No Stat Reduction or ignore the Defense debuffs

Your choice

[verbal karma]

...how important are Sonia's defense debuffs?

[dusty path]

Sonic's speed buffs

[mellow linden]

They’re nice, but not required

She doesn’t have any part of her kit that specifically needs them

[verbal karma]

...wait, does Lusamine needs the debuffs?

[mellow linden]

Lusamine has like Power Flux and that’s it for her damage modifiers

[dusty path]

If you have someone with Insult to Injury or Relentless multipliers in their grid, then it's great. Otherwise, it's pretty nice to have, that's all

[mellow linden]

So she doesn’t require Defense debuffs, no

[verbal karma]

okay, Lusamine has no debuff benefits

[mellow linden]

Now if you want to turn off No Stat Reduction for Lunge’s Attack debuffs as well, you can certainly do that

It’s not required, but it’s an option

[dusty path]

I mean Karen's sync is special and that's what's going to kill off Pheromosa... So unless someone has a multiplier for that there's not too much use for it

[mellow linden]

Well Lusamine will die to Sync pretty much regardless

So you always have to pre-Sync when using her

[dusty path]

XD

[mellow linden]

Nice

[swift swan]

I suggested defense debuffs so your nuker can do more damage

In this case, bugsy

Plus Lunge Lusamine too I suppose

[verbal karma]

oh my god

now Karen's passives make it LITERALLY impossible to quadqueue

what the hell is going on?!

[old orchid]

Your tank is Sonia right?

Sadly Team Swift Reaction ruins quad queue

[verbal karma]

damn

then I can't use that team

I am kinda required to have quad queue

just so I can get a second sync before Karen does her sync

[old orchid]

Have you ever heard of turn denial?

[verbal karma]

I can't get Sonia's flinch to work

[mellow linden]

You can also just reset until Karen uses an X Item on the turn you Sync

[verbal karma]

no

I want to do this without resets

[mellow linden]

Or, y'know, just off-type

[verbal karma]

plus, I would just pick Karen for R4 anyway

[steel kelp]

Yea what

[verbal karma]

oh, you meant reset the battle

[steel kelp]

Why are you using sonia with Karen

[verbal karma]

not the whole run

[mellow linden]

Yes, I mean reset the one fight

[verbal karma]

because Aaron/Bugsy/Noland doesn't work

[void wyvern]

Unless Sonia has an ex, results won’t be too different

[mellow linden]

It does work, apparently just not with the gear you have since it's not maxed

Upgrading potential or Theme Skills can offset that if need be

[verbal karma]

I am using Bug gear

[mellow linden]

Since I had no levels on the Theme Skills and both at 4-star potential

[verbal karma]

which doesn't have 3* yet

[mellow linden]

Use 3-star gear

Even if they're not quite maxed they will be better

[verbal karma]

but off-type 3* gear is weaker than on-type 2* gear

[mellow linden]

No it isn't

Quite the opposite

[steel kelp]

No

Why would it be worse than 2* gear

[verbal karma]

because it's off-type

and thus, it's buffs get halved

[void wyvern]

60 divided by 2 is still bigger than 20 last time I did math.

[mellow linden]

3-star gear is such a significant upgrade over 2-star gear that even halved it's still more

[verbal karma]

...so I guess switch back to Aaron/Bugsy/Noland now?

[mellow linden]

You can, or you can just off-type

[steel kelp]

Or

Off type

Like we’ve been saying

[mellow linden]

I'm at least 80% sure off-type is easier for you to pull off at this point

[verbal karma]

I already have trouble on-typing, off-typing would be only even more difficult

since I wouldn't have the type advantage

[steel kelp]

No it wouldn’t

[mellow linden]

Not if your on-type is Bugsy and Noland

[steel kelp]

Type doesn’t matter if you unga bunga numbers

[verbal karma]

technically, my on-type was originally Viola and Alder, but that didn't work out

[mellow linden]

I mean, the point still stands

Did you grab Silver's EX/Power Boost?

[steel kelp]

You’re putting in a lot of work just to on type

And it’s not working

[verbal karma]

I did, yeah

also, I am checking my 3* gear right now

Bracelet: 11
Bandana: 12
Pin: 10

that's the highest level for each

[mellow linden]

Silver + Blaine (if you have a better Sun setter use them) + Sonia or Hilbert

EZ win

[verbal karma]

those gear levels are high enough?

[mellow linden]

Use this Silver grid, or at the very least make sure to get Inertia and the Solar Flare tiles

[mellow linden]

Probably better than 2-star gear still, but max the Grass gear when that event rolls around, please

[verbal karma]

you mean limit break or actually get it to Level 15?

[mellow linden]

Level 15

[verbal karma]

damn

won't be possible then

[mellow linden]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN "WON'T BE POSSIBLE"

[verbal karma]

it simply takes way too much time, sadly

[steel kelp]

[mellow linden]

It takes like 2 hours total at max

You're telling me you don't have 2 hours over the course of 2 WEEKS?!

[steel kelp]

The this isn’t possible because it takes too much time

[verbal karma]

I have 1 hour max

[mellow linden]

Over 2 weeks?!

[steel kelp]

For 2 weeks…

[verbal karma]

I mean

[steel kelp]

You can’t be serious

[verbal karma]

I can do 1 hour per day

that's what I meant

[steel kelp]

THEN WHATS THE PROBLEM

[mellow linden]

That's more than enough time to max the gear

[verbal karma]

I thought you guys meant 2 hours per day

[mellow linden]

No, I meant 2 hours in general

[verbal karma]

oh

[mellow linden]

I grinded out the gear over like 2-3 days

[verbal karma]

okay, then it should be doable

[mellow linden]

Taking a few hours max

Almost certainly less

[verbal karma]

alright, before I try the Silver team, I am gonna try the Bugsy/Noland team one last time, but with the off-type 3* gear

who knows, maybe that will be enough

also was able to give an extra Bob and Weave for Bugsy, so that might also help

[dusty path]

What are round you doing Karen?

[mellow linden]

They're doing her Round 4

[dusty path]

Oh that's extra potent additional effects, right?

[steel kelp]

Indee

[mellow linden]

Better statuses/interference, yeah

[dusty path]

Do we know what they did round 1?

[mellow linden]

I don't

[steel kelp]

Does it matter

[dusty path]

I did Karen round 1 with units they have

And I was wondering if that stage could be done round 4. Yes they'd have to reset, but if it makes it possible, then...

[steel kelp]

It shouldn’t make a difference

[dusty path]

They're not taking advantage of the stage parameter

That makes a difference, does it not?

[steel kelp]

Do they have to

[dusty path]

If they're struggling with not doing it, make it easier

[verbal karma]

hold on, I can tell you all

[dusty path]

What move level is your Aaron?

[verbal karma]

hold on, everything is too fast

okay, so first off, my order: Will, Koga, Bruno

second off: Aaron is 5/5

[dusty path]

Okay, you can totally grid him with attack order staggering, which should let you quadqueue

[verbal karma]

...that's if Aaron won't get flinched himself

[dusty path]

Well... It's a race to be flinched then

[verbal karma]

well, sadly, Aaron is stuck buffing for the first 3 rounds

also, just checked: my Aaron luckily has Staggering already

[mellow linden]

Aaron doesn't need any special stuff to quadqueue anyways

[dusty path]

His grid has staggering 4 (50%), so with round parameter should be 100%? If that's right, anyway

[steel kelp]

No

[mellow linden]

No, round parameter is increase duration/potency

[dusty path]

As well as chance, no?

[verbal karma]

my Aaron also has Precision Pals for his TM, though I don't know if that's a good pick or not

[mellow linden]

Besides, the base chance increase doesn't affect passives anyways

[steel kelp]

More effective doesn’t mean higher chance

[verbal karma]

nope, not chance

[mellow linden]

Only the chance of Paralysis and Confusion triggering the attack nullification

[dusty path]

"Status conditions and other conditions deal more damage, last longet, and ARE MORE LIKELY TO TAKE EFFECT"?

No?

[mellow linden]

That's specifically for Paralysis and Confusion

Since they have a chance to negate an attack when it happens

"Take effect" in this case means the primary effect of the status/interference, not the chance of the status/interference being applied

[dusty path]

Interesting...

Okay, thanks for clearing that up for me

Sorry 😅

[mellow linden]

It's ambiguously worded, confusion is understandable

[dusty path]

Okay but I mean I still recommend using Aaron anyway... Flinch doesn't have to be before your first sync to be useful

[verbal karma]

why can Umbreon use Dark Pulse TWICE?!

[keen jasper]

Because she has enough gauges

And it's up to chance which moves they do anyways

[verbal karma]

even after Waterfall?

[keen jasper]

Ye

[steel kelp]

The ai will do whatever

Back in sinnoh flint could turn 1 fire blast and nuke your tank

Or do something else turn 1

[sand karma]

My dumbass who brought SSHilbert to a fire stage remembers

[verbal karma]

damn

the right gear really did make ALL the difference

won Round 4 with the Bugsy/Noland team after all

[keen jasper]

Who's the support?

[verbal karma]

Aaron

anyway, Round 5 should be a breeze...at least comparatibly

gonna use the R4 gimmick on lance

[dusty path]

Yeah R5 was great

[verbal karma]

but what to switch No Status Conditions out with?

Defense Up or Attack Up?

[void wyvern]

Attack up

[verbal karma]

thnx

[steel kelp]

Why no status condition

[dusty path]

Using R4 parameter

[verbal karma]

^

anyway, R5 was a breeze

finally, my first time I reached 10000 points

alright, I now have 175 , so...I wonder who to EX next...

[dusty path]

Ah yes, the good old sync acceleration

[verbal karma]

candidates so far are: SS Red, SS Leaf, Lyra, Hau, Halloween Acerola, Rosa, Christmas Skyla, Ethan, Darach, Elesa

my two top candidates, however, are Christmas Skyla and Elesa

[stray sentinel]

winona have a rain dance recharge under move 3?

[verbal karma]

nope

[dusty path]

No, just Shower Sync

[verbal karma]

Winona has absolutely no Rain Dance recharge whatsoever

🥹

man, Winona could have been so much better if she just would have had Rain Dance MPR

[stray sentinel]

No!?

T_T

she has one where it rains when she does her sync move so thats something

[dusty path]

^

[stray sentinel]

o lol my bad

Is that worth giving her a move candy?

I have her at 2

[mellow linden]

Told you it was doable with them at 4-stars

[stray sentinel]

Actually what other rain setters exist?

[steel kelp]

May

[mellow linden]

Tech Blastoise

[steel kelp]

And Archie has it on entry

[stray sentinel]

I dont think have anyone else lol

[dusty path]

Archie has it on entry, as well as Shower Sync

[mellow linden]

SS Kris also has Rain Dance and Champ Calem sets it with his Buddy Move while he’s in Water Form

[dusty path]

But yes... May, VarLyra, SS Kris, CCalem, Tech Gyarados

[stray sentinel]

I am saving I heard next useful sync pair is diantha meta wise, is that right?

[mellow linden]

She’s probably the next big meta player, but don’t go for her if you don’t like her, IMO

[stray sentinel]

I have to see what she looks like but i do like her

[mellow linden]

Her main contribution is letting Rock teams off-type

[steel kelp]

Fav > meta

[stray sentinel]

How does she let rock teams off type

[steel kelp]

Zone

[dusty path]

Rock zone and ~close enough to Team Def Leech 2 while in zone

[stray sentinel]

From the banners open is there anyone you would regret not having?

im torn between fav sabrina and meta lol

[steel kelp]

Meta doesn’t matter

There’s usually a substitute

[mellow linden]

From a meta standpoint I guess NY Lisia is helpful since physical Fairy is kinda rare, but at the same time Mina exists, so it’s not a big deal to skip her

[stray sentinel]

master fair has higher rates so i feel better pulling on those

Oh I see

[dusty path]

NYSabrina? She's great for my Psychic weak CS team

[steel kelp]

And they’re gonna eventually come out with someone stronger

[stray sentinel]

I pulled NY Lisia I love shiny g rapidash

[mellow linden]

If you like NY Sabrina feel free to try and nab her (assuming you can guarantee or are willing to risk walking away empty-handed), she’s a solid Support

[stray sentinel]

You know what I have a major case of FOMO

[steel kelp]

Welcome to gacha

[mellow linden]

Especially because she’s probably the most consistent Endure applier in the game rn

[stray sentinel]

Nah I only have 26 k

[steel kelp]

That’s the whole point

Slap “limited time only”

[stray sentinel]

i know I play wotv and its the same lol.

[steel kelp]

And the money will come in

[stray sentinel]

True

or summer suits lol

[steel kelp]

Do you even have pity for NY Sabrina

Or anyone else for that matter

[stray sentinel]

No I mentioned I was only at 26K I didnt realize

Also I prefer pulling on the 12/10% banners so I can pull pairs while I work my way to pity

[rotund lagoon]

The scout tickets are meant to increase your roster without spending gems

[fiery agate]

My Pheromosa keeps getting one shot by sync move

[mellow linden]

This Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[fiery agate]

Master

[civic trellis]

Im guessing MM since it would show the type medals

[mellow linden]

Just off-type, tbh

Lusamine is basically guaranteed to get KOed by enemy Sync and quadqueue is basically impossible with that team unless SSA Cynthia has Adrenaline Lucky Skill

If you have 3/5 Hilbert + Power Boosted Silver + a Sun setter you should be golden

I would avoid using Lusamine unless she’s EX or you’re doing a Bugsy or Noland + Lusamine + Attack/crit Support comp

[fiery agate]

Hilbert only 1/5 ;-;

As in Ho-oh silver?

[mellow linden]

Yeah

[peak stirrup]

I used Lusamine/Guzma/Hilbert, just don’t grid Guzma for Nuke since Hilbert does support EX

[mellow linden]

You have 3/5 Sonia?

[fiery agate]

Nope not even 1/5 sigh

[zealous karma]

That’s odd my bugsy did a lot more

[mellow linden]

Hop it is then

Lemme find the grid I put here earlier

[fiery agate]

Thanks

[mellow linden]

Here’s the Silver grid

[fiery agate]

So Hop, Silver and Sun setter?

[mellow linden]

Yeah

If you happen to have SS Morty he’d be ideal

Because he can buff Speed

[fiery agate]

Any other options I haven’t even seen Morty banner before

I don’t have a lot of useful limited pairs

[mellow linden]

Any Sun setter works, slap Blaine on there if need be

[fiery agate]

Might actually be the case lmao

Raise them to level 140?

[mellow linden]

Just means you’ll likely have to make sure you quadqueue. Level 120 should be fine

[fiery agate]

Ok

Does it matter what stat changes I use?

For MM

[mellow linden]

There’s some recommended parameters in the pins

[zealous karma]

Interesting

[mellow linden]

If you pick pre-Sync parameters then you need to KO before the opponent can Sync

[formal musk]

whaaaaaa i got one shotted

[zealous karma]

Zinnia should not be tanking

[formal musk]

no shes not

[mellow linden]

Were you using pre-Sync parameters?

[formal musk]

hops the one doing the tank

[formal musk]

no i was doing post

[mellow linden]

Try Kahili instead of Elio and make sure to quadqueue so you can Sync twice before the opponent can Sync. Kahili takes 2nd Sync

[fiery agate]

That’s a very difficult feat haha

[zealous karma]

Quad queuing isn’t very difficult

If you need help doing it check pins

[mellow linden]

It’s not that hard, the biggest issue is quadqueueing

[zealous karma]

How I typically do it is by using my pointer finger and tapping whatever move I want to use lel

[mellow linden]

And making sure Hop’s Freevenge doesn’t get triggered right before you Sync and screw up quadqueue

So long as Sun is up when he Syncs Silver should definitely be able to KO the opponent with 2 Syncs

Once you get a 3/5 Hilbert he can even one-shot a lot of fights with his 1st Sync

Actually, hold on

Lemme check something

[zealous karma]

Oh great that discord bug is back angry

[mellow linden]

@fiery agate try this grid instead and use Hilbert instead of Hop. Make sure Silver uses his Trainer Move 3 times and grid Hilbert for X Speed All MP Refresh and use that 3 times

This should let you get a max Silver Sync by your 1st Sync, which should let you one-shot the stage

And save Hop for elsewhere

[zealous karma]

If their using Hilber you don’t need beserker don’t you?

[mellow linden]

Their Hilbert is 1/5

[zealous karma]

O

[mellow linden]

So I’m thinking Hilbert for Speed focus

[zealous karma]

He still buffs Atk by 3

[mellow linden]

Inertia tile

[zealous karma]

Wouldn’t skyla be best iirc he gets Spd MPR at 2/5

[mellow linden]

Trying to get it maxed by 1st Sync

I just checked pomatools, Hilbert gets it at 1/5

[zealous karma]

Oh I lied yikes 30%

[fiery agate]

Ok. I’ll need to raise Hilbert first ://

[mellow linden]

Just level 120 him and grab his X Speed All MP Refresh from grid

Hilbert needs minimal investment for this strategy

[formal musk]

mine isnt ex'd is that ok

[mellow linden]

Skyla can work instead of Hilbert, even, you’d just need her Trainer Move MP Refresh

[fiery agate]

Works even with 1/5?

[mellow linden]

Kahili doesn’t even have EX, so probably

[formal musk]

i forgor anyways thanks ill try

[mellow linden]

Yeah, 1/5 is all he needs for X Speed All MP Refresh

Skyla works too if you have her Trainer Move MP Refresh, I just picked Hilbert because at 1/5 you’re not using him elsewhere

Trying to go big brain time on this one

[zealous karma]

Inchresting

He’s apparently reaches 30K on poma tools and with ex he’d reach 96K not bad maybe he’d be a suitable nuker then

[fiery agate]

Let’s see if this works then

[zealous karma]

That team should work just remneber to use Sun before silvers second TM so he can max his crit idk if that was mentioned but just in case it wasn’t keep that in mind

[fiery agate]

Ok

[zealous karma]

Typically when I use silver it’s
Cycle 1:
Silver tm -> X Spd all -> Blaine atm
Cycle 2: X Spd all -> sunny day -> silver tm
Cycle 3:
Waterfall/hilbert tm -> Blaine tm -> sacred fire
Use a move and then sync with silver cause I imagine he can side denie

[fiery agate]

That’s reli helpful thanks

[mellow linden]

Well the idea is to get the MP Refresh so Silver can max his Attack, but +4 probably will work

[zealous karma]

Actually he can’t side do the deny so maybe don’t do the last part and quad queue sacred fire

[zealous karma]

I completely forgot about the X Spd all lel

Karen might hit to hard for hilbert cause mines Ex 135 and has endurance and almost died

[zealous karma]

This was also round 1 so extra don’t do this

[mellow linden]

So long as he can survive to do 3 X Speed Alls it should work out

[fiery agate]

Can’t quadqueue properly lol

[mellow linden]

Why is Silver’s crit not maxed

[fiery agate]

I used all the TMs

[zealous karma]

Is just focus center

[mellow linden]

You need to get the MP Refreshes

So you can use them 3 times each

[zealous karma]

Or you use it after sun

It boosts crit by 2 then

[mellow linden]

That works too, yeah

MP Refresh is ideal for purposes of Berserker, but maxing crit is vital

[zealous karma]

I’d use skyla personally she has potions boosts def and is way less frail

[mellow linden]

Skyla works, yeah

[zealous karma]

In this instance

F2P sweep

Bugsy and Noland is easier for me but you might not have goo

Hop

[mellow linden]

If you have SS Erika then even if you have to do 2 Syncs you can potentially get away with no quadqueue

By using SS Erika instead of Blaine

[fiery agate]

So close

[mellow linden]

Ok, yeah, try Skyla

[fiery agate]

Ok ok it

[mellow linden]

Trainer Move MP Refresh on Skyla, ideally her Potion tiles too, same basic strategy

[fiery agate]

Ok

[mellow linden]

If you have SS Erika you can replace Blaine with her and potentially be able to not worry about quadqueue if you need to Sync twice

[zealous karma]

You might want to post sync

Params

I’m trying it myself because I like to and it’s seems doable but also

[fiery agate]

It’s not EX tho is that ok

[zealous karma]

Actually nvm

[mellow linden]

Who?

[zealous karma]

This is super doable

You just need to quad queue

[mellow linden]

Whose EX are you talking about?

[fiery agate]

Wait I don’t think I have Erika

[zealous karma]

https://streamable.com/q9qwe3

[zealous karma]

That’s fine blaine works

I’m assuming Ex Skyla which you don’t need for this fight

[mellow linden]

It’s fine if you don’t, all that lacking SS Erika (that’s Erika + Leafeon, btw) means is that you need to quadqueue

[fiery agate]

both not im still relatively new

[zealous karma]

Also silver being weak to water is a bit unfortunate so just pray you crit the Rapidash

[fiery agate]

still need to raise Skyla

[zealous karma]

But it shows your silver is Ex?

[fiery agate]

SIlver is EX

not the others

[zealous karma]

They don’t need to be

[mellow linden]

Silver’s EX is all you need

[zealous karma]

That

[mellow linden]

Just make sure to level 120 Skyla and get her MP Refreshes if you haven’t already done that

[fiery agate]

ok im out of stamina to get level up manuals lol

i'll try again tmr

[zealous karma]

If you max inertia which I couldn’t because I have “good luck” he’ll kill Karen fine

You haven’t leveled her up already what

[fiery agate]

there's this much stuff i didn't know how to distribute my resources

[zealous karma]

You have a rather stacked roster

[mellow linden]

Future reference: level 120 is cheap and sufficient for most content

[zealous karma]

If you want to go beyond that thay is fine lel but I’d only do that after like 6+ months of playing or if you just have favs you like raising to 140+ (me)

That’s all the helping I can do for now bye bye

Albeit I didn’t dk@muc lel

[fiery agate]

i was a feel lmao

fool

i didnt know

[mellow linden]

Everyone was new once, don’t worry

All it means is you need to wait a couple days, no big deal

[fiery agate]

guess i won't be close to clearing MM anytime soon

wait a couple ays?

days?

[mellow linden]

To get what you need for Skyla

[fiery agate]

how so?

stamina from gems?

[mellow linden]

Well if all you need is level up materials you should be able to get those pretty quick

Level 120 is cheap

Even if it takes you a week+ Johto CS sticks around for like 3 more weeks

So you can almost certainly get a Master Mode clear before we go to the next region

[fiery agate]

that's a relief

is 4 star Skyla ok

out of 4 stay tickets

[mellow linden]

Should be fine

[fiery agate]

okie

[fiery agate]

Thanks for being patient with me haha I’ll probably be continuously asking for help

[mellow linden]

No problem

[formal musk]

finally killed the mid but the sides started spamming earthquake and killed them both

[mellow linden]

What other Flying Techs/Strikers do you have?

[formal musk]

let me see

[mellow linden]

Hmm

There’s possible merit with Lodge Serena, I suppose

Instead of Kahili

Off-typing may be doable

[formal musk]

i dont really have any off types since my sst red is going to lance and cerena is going to will

[zealous karma]

She is not fun to use but I would say better than kahili in this situation because of her tm having reflect\

[mellow linden]

Is Silver still available?

[zealous karma]

after zinnia sync she'll prolly destroy center mon