Champion Stadium

[spring fable]

what should my turn rotation be like?

[rotund lagoon]

It is inconsistent yes, but not so bad it won’t work well.

[verbal karma]

I only have Dark, Ice and Poison left for the type medal, so...

[rigid flint]

Ah right

[verbal karma]

Sidney/Grimsley/Glacia vs R1 Will, that good?

[swift swan]

reminder that koga basically has the equivalent of a wise entry x2

[swift swan]

grimsley is unneeded

[rotund lagoon]

Why Glacia? •.•

[swift swan]

probably just for the typing

[rigid flint]

Oh I finally get to use Marnie for dark weak

After all this time

[rotund lagoon]

Ohhhhhhh gawd there goes my ADHD, they just said they needed the medal

Anyway, Will got Impervious so Grimsley won’t work.

[spring fable]

giovanni first sync did 2.1k

[rotund lagoon]

Side or middle?

[spring fable]

mid

[main crow]

I am dumb and I just put Gioking on any poison weak CS

[rotund lagoon]

Sync side.

They said left I think?

[toxic cobalt]

If you want to try denying you sync left but it isn't guaranteed

[swift swan]

not anymore. that was last week

this week you can yoink his stats all you want

[toxic cobalt]

What again? This man.

[rotund lagoon]

Oops

[verbal karma]

type medal

[swift swan]

this week he has sentry entry 4 and tough cookie. eh, not bad, Will

[toxic cobalt]

Use Ghetsis

[swift swan]

max sp attack? and did it crit?

[old orchid]

Me nuking Will with Sidney: whats Tough Cookie

[swift swan]

actually, what does your giovanni grid look like

[swift swan]

My Sidney also OHKO'd Will first sync I'm really disappointed

come on Will, give me more of a challenge

[rigid flint]

Marnie casually doing 12k with 1 power trip

[verbal karma]

I assume I can use a poison type instead then?

[spring fable]

is there an easier way?

like offtyping with cyrus

[toxic cobalt]

Easier than psychic with Giovanni???????

[rotund lagoon]

Your team should be doable tho

[spring fable]

idk what im doing wrong

[rotund lagoon]

Did you max stats?

[toxic cobalt]

Can you video?

[spring fable]

i removed a master healer and tm mpr for the other staggering tile

[toxic cobalt]

Good plan

[spring fable]

sure i'll video

[rigid flint]

How did syncing with gio first go?

Oh it didn't go well I assume

[spring fable]

he did 2k+ dmg

[rigid flint]

Hm

That seems very un-gio like

[swift swan]

Sidney + good tank can already clear fairly well so yeah, the third can be a poison unit

[swift swan]

Giovanni is every psychic-weak opponent's nightmare. Sure R3 can prevent quadqueue but it should still work

How does Sabrina/Gio/Bianca sound and Bianca helps spamming Stored Power after using her TM

[rotund lagoon]

Yea

[spring fable]

ok i was recording a vid

but skyla kept dying to close combat

so i was resetting

and then i somehow beat it

but funny thing

i didnt flinch once

[swift swan]

Welp

[toxic cobalt]

Gio is too strong

[spring fable]

idk what went differently

[rotund lagoon]

Wait you didn’t change to Bianca???

Y?

[spring fable]

she dies in 2 hits

[swift swan]

Now that's more like the gio clear I'm used to

[toxic cobalt]

Why would you ever change from Skyla Annie?

[swift swan]

Luck issue. Almost everyone dies in two hits if it's bruno's close combats

[spring fable]

i honestly dont know what difference that run was to all the previous ones

i'll keep my extra braincells

[rotund lagoon]

I tried the other way but Sabrina as the Support seemed better T_T

[swift swan]

Because Gio/Sabrina/Bianca is a tried and true team? the only issue that might arise is if you're not able to quadqueue

[rotund lagoon]

Also if I’m honest

[swift swan]

But even then, Bianca and Gio's DPS are enogh

[rotund lagoon]

My Psychic teams have always been Sabrina, Bianca and Lear/Gio

Works every time.

[swift swan]

Me with SS Dawn/Bianca/LuSSamine

Half HP go brrrr

Ok this week I did LuSSamine terrain-less, still good of course

[rotund lagoon]

I did use NY Sabrina for a different CS, but that was the only exception.

Offensive team just the goat

[toxic cobalt]

If you get Animay she compresses Bianca and Sabrina into one unit

[rotund lagoon]

I’m personally not interested.

But good to know.

[toxic cobalt]

Poor May

[rotund lagoon]

May wasn’t as much of a fav as others lol

[verbal karma]

ah, good

thanks

[spring fable]

https://youtu.be/EyWJuMWxtYM

previously bruno would always manage to sync before me

thats the winning run

[swift swan]

[verbal karma]

alright, with R1 done, I can plan out the next rounds without any type limitations

[swift swan]

why aren't you taking no stat condition

oh wait you did lol

my bad

[trail smelt]

Only thing of note is that I got to try out my just pulled today Aaron, and by gum is he great

[spring fable]

watch it nov

[trail smelt]

Ready for next week

… oh right I forgot to feed SConia her candies and grid her

Ehh

[toxic cobalt]

I feel she won't need those in that team

[swift swan]

Pffft yeah okay, Bruno is really hard to quadqueue not just because of R3. It's also because of precision pals activating, it seems

[trail smelt]

Yeah she never needed to lol

[rotund lagoon]

Precision Pals again????

Gawd

I’ll just wreck it with Mina again ig

[ripe onyx]

oh god i need to get 7 pieces this round to unlock master

[rotund lagoon]

Very doable!

[ripe onyx]

a few of them are the ontype this round too

[rotund lagoon]

Even better!

[swift swan]

[ripe onyx]

grass, ice, fighting, poison, are the ones i have to shove in somewhere

[toxic cobalt]

BP Erika?, Ghetsis, Brawley, Janine

[spring fable]

Damn

Think I need to change team

[trail smelt]

What happened there

[spring fable]

calem died too fast

[swift swan]

hmmmm

[spring fable]

didnt manage to use 2nd bmove

[ripe onyx]

ahhh no erica :( ill just shove base lyra somwhere

[swift swan]

he's more of an offensive support yeah, but his bulk isn't anything laughable either

[swift swan]

really? with all the AOE moves you could do?

[trail smelt]

Oh I did find Calem to be quite frail in that fight, though my dark team didn’t care and just killed things haha

[spring fable]

i unlocked the 2nd time, but he didnt manage to use it

[swift swan]

I would suggest Sidney or masked royal over Karen because CCalem's B-move, under dark type, gives PMUN instead of SMUN

but honestly it shouldn't matter that much I guess

I'm just not a huge fan of using Karen

[toxic cobalt]

Fair tbh

[trail smelt]

I used Sidney/Karen/CCalem for a different dark round and they did great

[ripe onyx]

does royal need a striker unit alongside him?

[spring fable]

lesgo

lance

[swift swan]

he doesn't need it

[undone ether]

its time for champion time

letsee

[swift swan]

at 1/5 I would just use him to support another striker so he can lower defense tbh

but at 3/5 he can clear the stage by himself

[vital gazelle]

yea at 1/5 he maxes speed lowers def for 2 gauge

[ripe onyx]

thank you! whats a good free dark striker

[vital gazelle]

very nice to compliment a physical damage dealer with inertia

or ramming speed

[ripe onyx]

also can i just say this is so much easier than sinnoh

[undone ether]

free dark striker?

[ripe onyx]

i actually cleared first try

[undone ether]

uh yeah

Johto is easy

[ripe onyx]

sinnoh gave me hell

😭

[undone ether]

compared to the hellscape that is known as Hoenn and Sinnoh

[vital gazelle]

bp karen is the only free one i can think of. and she’d require good support, but can get the job done

[undone ether]

I cannot wait for Kalos to punch us all in the face

[ripe onyx]

granted i am using lear to clear a psychic weak stage but still my hair wasnt torn out this time

LOL

[ripe onyx]

ahhhh. so without her just off type it?

[spring fable]

LESGOOOO

[vital gazelle]

if you have no other dark type units yea just poison stall or off type

[ripe onyx]

cool thank you!!

[trail smelt]

Yep, Johto was the second released and barely harder than Kanto, the easiest haha

[spring fable]

1st time doing 10k!

[undone ether]

noice

[trail smelt]

Noice congrats

[ripe onyx]

[undone ether]

now EX your Ash and stuff. 😄

[trail smelt]

Gets easier and easier

Until Kalos and Galar show up anyway

[solemn pine]

[frosty axle]

does Karen have some hidden accuracy boost never misses on my +6 evasion beedrill?

[spring fable]

why?

[desert berry]

Hello! Is the line up the same as last week?

[full mesa]

Had to off type Koga. Also a pretty fun clear is 2 frogs and Sidney only using Brutal swing from R2 and onwards against Will. No buddy moves, no syncs. Only brutal swing.

[desert berry]

Need assistance for this week’s CS

[full mesa]

Have you tried it out yourself first? Apart from Koga/Karen, the others are quite easy.

[desert berry]

Haven’t tried this week but last week I did clear it

[full mesa]

Try out by yourself first and then come back asking for help on the stages you fail. It's Johto. It's quite easy.

We'll be here.

[swift swan]

nice, congrats!

[swift swan]

I wouldn't say free, but some good genpool options are: Karen, Sidney, Masked Royal, Nessa

let's not sleep on Jaw Lock Nessa spreading my propaganda again

[desert berry]

Okay

But can I ask for starting team recommendation for Will line up?

[swift swan]

pick one or two units from this

I usually run Masked Royal + Nessa. Combined with Hop, it's a pretty foolproof team

[full mesa]

What's your roster?

Also Sidney is quite powerful

[desert berry]

Let me check

Again

I can’t save it

[swift swan]

try on PC if you can?

or a different browser

[desert berry]

Downloaded chrome

Trying to check if it works

[ripe onyx]

WOOO master mode unlocked!!

[full mesa]

Nice. Now do 10k

[undone ether]

Ahahahaja 13 sync moves.

Pure defense kakaka

[solemn pine]

[swift swan]

why

Actually, I refuse to believe lodge serena needs 13 sync moves to hit 20k. Her nuke is pretty good from what I see in LG videos. Just how much bulk did you give the enemy

[undone ether]

They keep buffing themselves .-.

[undone ether]

I did say full defense

Hp+def params

And like level 6+

[swift swan]

[manic mica]

i had to off type koga sheesh

[dark osprey]

hopefully a Kahili, Winona team does reasonably well against Koga right

[manic mica]

i tried, team died after 1st sync

with presync param, maybe post sync works

[trail smelt]

Flying weak Koga is wise entry x2 before it became a passive instead of just obscenely high base stats haha

[verbal karma]

I wonder how much I need to change from those teams for Master Mode

(oh yeah, I also EX'd Christmas Jasmine after the Hard Mode run)

[toxic cobalt]

You’ll need to change Will but the rest look solid

[main crow]

Huh no wonder SS Ethan took a bit more effort than usual

[rigid flint]

Someone give me a theme to do next week

I wanna spice up my CS runs since it's Johto

[hollow goblet]

what do the parameters "sync buffs are more effective" and "status conditions are more effective" mean? does that mean there's a higher DMG multiplier? or higher chance for status inflict?

[swift swan]

#1015843845008793690 message ya wanna try this?

[rigid flint]

Oooh I'm willing to try that

[swift swan]

#1011173305702690876 message mine this week

today I learned we have a lot of characters starting with L

[civic trellis]

Tbh I thought blue would be a lot better

But ig mid was physical weak

Maybe ill use him another week

[toxic cobalt]

Sync buff is higher damage multiplier

Status means more damage/last longer

[hollow goblet]

Ohh! so if it's X2, then it's increased?

I thought it was higher sync move dmg

which in hindsight doesn't really make sense

thank you very much!

[toxic cobalt]

Not sure what the exact multiplier is

[fiery agate]

will lusamine as the only bug type be enough for Karen? I don't have enough pairs...

[toxic cobalt]

For hard mode

There is also Bugsy and Noland if you have spare

[fiery agate]

i haven't reached hard mode yet. Still need to finish all typings since i only started winning last week

[toxic cobalt]

That’s hard mode!

[fiery agate]

I need to filler poison type so my current build is Rotom, Crogunk and Lasmine

oh yeah

haha my bad

[toxic cobalt]

That’s not particularly defensive

Well, could get lucky

[fiery agate]

yeah... any other adequate poison types to fill either a defence or support position?

[toxic cobalt]

Not really poison types are more techy

You could run Janine and use her to poison and then debuff!

[fiery agate]

good suggestion

[verbal karma]

ooh, that's very good to hear

well, I know I need to replace Glacia because she's bad at tanking even on Hard Mode

alright, is SS Blue (EX)/Karen (EX)/Sidney any good for R1 Will?

[swift swan]

sounds alright

[vital gazelle]

should be more than enough

[verbal karma]

ah, thanks!

[full mesa]

That's an awful team. All of them need sync asap.

SSBlue/Karen/Roxanne or SSBlue/Sidney/Def debuffer

[swift swan]

imo Karen fights for sync more than Sidney

[swift swan]

even then, the main damage dealer here will still be competing to sync with SS Blue

[dark osprey]

Can slip in Nanu as the debuffer/flincher and theme skills as well. Karen does find it slightly harder with the higher special defense stats

[verbal karma]

...wait

I won't be able to use Nanu's debuffing to begin with

after all, I'd have No Stat Reduction

...but I also don't really wanna use the Karen-centered team either...

[swift swan]

Like Ark said, Karen can have slightly more trouble because Will has rather high special defense

[verbal karma]

well, I wanna use the Sidney team anyway

it's just gonna be difficult to justify having Nanu in the team

considering he can't debuff anything

[swift swan]

Don't, then

[verbal karma]

can I have a healer instead?

[swift swan]

If set-up properly, Sidney can nuke first sync

[verbal karma]

well, SS Blue would do the first sync

Sidney would do the second

[swift swan]

Sure. Though sidney's already a healer and you might wanna ration your potions?

[swift swan]

Works even better

[verbal karma]

alright, SS Blue/Leaf/Sidney should work then, hopefully

[swift swan]

No doubt it will

Although what move level is ss blue?

[dusty path]

Sorry I'm like 5 hours late, but yeah... NYSabrina Lucian Gio is my go-to psychic team. I have NYSabrina 4/5 right now so maxes the SpAtk in 2 turns, Lucian for debuffs (of course), and Gio doing BIG numbers on sync

[full mesa]

Yes but with SSBlue you have 2x sync buff and safety net. Then the main striker can get the second sync securing the pre sync fight.

[swift swan]

I reckon this team has the same strategy. Whoever syncs second doesn't matter, the other damage dealer is available for extra DPS

[verbal karma]

ah, shoot

R1 went so well

[void wyvern]

[verbal karma]

R2 almost goes well, too

but the left side manages to merc my team

...maybe I need to replace No Stat Reduction after all...

[void wyvern]

If you have a team that gains multipliers off it, yes replacing it is a good idea.

[verbal karma]

Darach has both Power Posture and Pecking Order

[void wyvern]

Well, replacing no stat reduction and using feather dance is a pretty good idea

[old orchid]

And pick Crit Shield for free 150 points

[void wyvern]

Defog my beloved

[swift swan]

ok I have... never planned for my teams a week before the stage, but I'm actually pretty excited with my challenge clear next week (wow, Nov being excited over Johto CS, look at that character development)

I think I can do a full CS run only with sync pairs starting with the letter L

[verbal karma]

yeah, that worked

[verbal karma]

didn't even need that, I just went with a variation of Pre-Sync

one that replaced No Stat Reduction with Max HP ^2

gonna use that variation in R3 as well tbh

...I just noticed that I need to replace someone in my R3 Bruno team

[swift swan]

we recommended crit shield specifically because you used darach. with defog, it's free 150 points and you wouldn't need extra HP

[old orchid]

Free points are free points

There is no reason not to pick that unless you want to challenge yourself

[verbal karma]

ah, true...though I ended up winning with max points anyway, so I guess it didn't matter in the end

[old orchid]

gratz

[verbal karma]

anyway, I need to replace Anni May in the R3 team with an Attack debuffer

Palentine's Dawn seems like a good choice

though I wonder if Sycamore is good enough or should be replaced with someone

[old orchid]

What team are you going to use?

[full mesa]

I want to see that.

[verbal karma]

Palentine's Dawn for Attack debuffing, Giovanni for nuking (he's powered and EX'd)

Currently looking for a good tank

[old orchid]

That team is fine

Remember to grid Sycamore Adrenaline so that you can quad queue

[verbal karma]

That he has :p

[old orchid]

Nice

[swift swan]

stay tuned in my CS clears next week!

[swift swan]

idk why you need debuffing from pal dawn. anni may is fine, provides psychic terrain and extra damage

[old orchid]

Pal Dawn is fine imo, atk debuff helps Sycamore staying longer

Giovanni will destroy Bruno regardless of the third teammate anyway

[void wyvern]

Just max out smarty pants and nuke em

[swift swan]

fair

Personally, I trust my tanks so I rarely take debuffs for survivability

[old orchid]

Using Sycamore on Bruno is a bit risky tho

No defense buffs and the opponents have strong physical moves

[swift swan]

just kill them before they kill you

and pray for no close combats

My Lyra survived a close combat at full offensive 2k today. Granted it was with physical damage reduction screen on Round 3, but still. Sycamore has a much better chance of surviving

[verbal karma]

well, I ended up winning with Pal Dawn anyway

funnily enough, Giovanni's sync attack (after Sycamore's sync attack, at least) literally one-shots the entire enemy team at once

...even without psychic terrain

man, I felt powerful

...anyway, I need to replace Aaron in my R4 team because he takes too much damage too fast

[verbal karma]

damn, I really do need to replace Aaron in my R4 team...but with whom?

[swift swan]

what's the team?

[verbal karma]

the current R4 team is Aaron/Viola/Alder

I also switched from Pre-Sync to Post-Sync

although "No Stat Reduction" is still replaced with "Max HP ^2"

[civic trellis]

Alder can lower sp atk on his own if that’s all ur using viola for

[verbal karma]

actually, I am also using Viola for Infestation

[civic trellis]

Oh ok

[swift swan]

I think that team can presync just fine

[verbal karma]

it actually can't

[swift swan]

and honestly, it's not worth it using Viola just for infestation. switch her with a potion user or something

[verbal karma]

like, it can survive Karen's sync

but then all of Karen's attacks after that sync insta-kill

[swift swan]

which is why I suggested presync Aaron is tanky enough to take her hits

[verbal karma]

I mean, Viola is here for both Infestation and Struggle Bug at the same time

Alder is only here as the nuke

[toxic cobalt]

Alder is dps not nuke

[verbal karma]

oof

[swift swan]

and his DPS is nothing to laugh at

[lunar meadow]

Volcarona is one of the best 1/5 units still, imo

[swift swan]

what I usually run for my bug team is Lusamine/Alder/tank. Lusamine is fast enough and can help with damage

[swift swan]

hyper beam units are just like that can't go wrong with a strong 4-gauge move

[verbal karma]

ah, I actually have Lusamine, maybe I can replace Alder with her?

Lusamine is also 5/5, which seems better than Alder's 1/5

[old orchid]

Lusamine's dps is weaker than Alder

you can run both in the same team like Nov

[swift swan]

I say run them both that's what I always do

you just need good gauge support

[old orchid]

i used to run both until i get SS Hilbert

[swift swan]

so Alder DPS, Lusamine is gridded for sync

[swift swan]

same lol

well Lusamine is still going to be used whenever Sinnoh comes back

Lunge Lusamine go brrr

[verbal karma]

but then I don't have anyone who could trap

[old orchid]

why do you need trap

[swift swan]

and why do you need trap

[verbal karma]

because of the R4 gimmick

[sand karma]

Is Aaron, SSHilb, Lusamine a good team?

[old orchid]

you should ignore trap

[old orchid]

yup, if you go for physical Lusamine

[swift swan]

you don't always have to adhere to the gimmick of the stage

just ignore that

Alder and Lusamine will wreck the stage just fine

[sand karma]

Ohhh right i forgot lunge existed

[swift swan]

countless times I've taken "no stat reduction" when the params literally favor stat reduction

[swift swan]

don't we all? it's not the best use of Lusamine but welp

she cleared 2k Sinnoh Bug-weak for me so

[sand karma]

R1 will, greninjas+Nessa? Or different support and Karen?

[frosty axle]

Week 2 videos are up #1059457677002031184 message

[sand karma]

Nessa and Karen are 3/5 now and MR is 2/5 no sidney : (

[swift swan]

both work fine

[verbal karma]

I wonder if this sync grid is good enough for Lusamine

[untold mesa]

Master mode time (I needed to get the last 3 types with these)

[swift swan]

#1010274591601598555 please

[sand karma]

I think power flux would be better than the sync tiles or the on a roll

[swift swan]

instead of the lunge tiles and bug buzz on a roll, I'd rather take another sync tile at the bottom

[sand karma]

Something like this?

Or this for lunge

[verbal karma]

Tried to get the third sync attack tile while keeping On A Roll

[void wyvern]

You don’t need rejuvenate.

The team is more than fast enough

[verbal karma]

okay, no

Aaron/Lusamine/Alder for R4 Karen Pre-Sync is even worse than Aaron/Viola/Alder

[austere quest]

Easy week, I ontyped everything for the first time ever

[void wyvern]

Great job!

[void wyvern]

Let me run a test or two for you.

[austere quest]

Now to wait until SS Diantha drops and I can fix my Rock Team

[void wyvern]

I tested Alder, Aaron, viola, there’s no reason it shouldn’t work unless you have terrible luck,

You just use infestation turn one and mash struggle bug with viola, use Aaron’s tm once and then use defend order until you need to heal, then use alders hyper beam and win.

[sand karma]

Nessa is awesome, just chomping away health

I don't know why November says its propaganda

[swift swan]

I made it with Alder/Lusamine/Aaron but the amount of tries

[mellow linden]

Who is this against, Karen?

[void wyvern]

Yeah.

[zealous karma]

💔

[swift swan]

Granted, my run wasn't the best showcase because I have Alder and Lusamine EXd and I really banked on Lusamine's AOE sync there

[mellow linden]

What move level is Lusamine and what round is it?

[void wyvern]

3 and unknown.

[swift swan]

R4

Well I took on Karen R1 for the test run (because duh, I'm too lazy) and immediately got owned by her physical moves

Aaron could only survive two hits

[void wyvern]

So that’s why bite was taking a chunk out of Aaron’s hp.

[mellow linden]

Ah. Tougher than Round 2, but should be doable. The problem would be that you likely need to quadqueue twice

[zealous karma]

Even with heal order?

[mellow linden]

But Alder should have zero issues, just bring him + defensive Support + crit Support

[swift swan]

I took half ally healing

[zealous karma]

[void wyvern]

Half healing

[mellow linden]

If you really wanna do Lusamine, then her + Skyla + a Support that can max Sp. Atk. and give at least +1 crit works too

I can go get my Lusamine grid if need be

Oh, and one of the Supports has to be EX, and Lusamine herself probably has to be EX

[swift swan]

Lusamine EX helps a lot

At least her defenses aren't in the two digits anymore

[mellow linden]

If Lusamine isn’t EX I would just recommend using Alder as the sole damage-dealer, he shouldn’t have much trouble

[swift swan]

So many people forget about her

[mellow linden]

Alternatively, Aaron + Bugsy + Lusamine or Noland probably works too

[swift swan]

Bruh this is making me question using Lusamine as the sole offtype striker for my challenge run next week

[mellow linden]

Off-type Lusamine is almost certainly

[sand karma]

Offtype Lusamine?!?

[zealous karma]

I’d rather cry

[mellow linden]

I actually replaced CS2 with Super Powered 3 on mine because I see little to no reason to use her off-type

[zealous karma]

I gave mine def crush

Then I found out Noland exists

[swift swan]

My ambition to do a full L challenge run next week is... Slightly crumbling

Damn it Lusamine powerboost when

[mellow linden]

On another note, today I discovered the X Reset All

While it didn’t ruin the run, it very much surprised me when facing Lance today

[void wyvern]

X reset has been around for a very long time surprisingly.

[mellow linden]

I mean, yeah, apparently

[void wyvern]

Like, co op main story kinda long time.

[mellow linden]

I’d just never seen it before today, or at least don’t remember seeing it before

So it caught me off-guard

[swift swan]

I... Genuinely thought you guys were joking and by X Reset All Cobalt meant Lance just opened with a Hyper Beam to the face, resulting in resetting the battle

Huh. Today I learned

[mellow linden]

He has Hyper Beam this week?

Huh

That would be a funny nickname for turn 1 Hyper Beam though

[old orchid]

he also has Hydro Pump

[swift swan]

It won't be Lance without Hyper Beam!

On the other hand, this week he has shit offenses

[zealous karma]

Electric week lance is so forgettable

[swift swan]

Even the sides hit harder than him

[zealous karma]

Imagine if he had double offenses and hp

[swift swan]

Hoenn CS material

[mellow linden]

Electric weak Lance means Triple Elesa

Always a good week for me when that happens

[zealous karma]

I essentially had a Volkner solo for the end of my run

Because elesa somehow missed the kill

[old orchid]

if Electric weak Lance debuted in Hoenn CS, he would be a nightmare 💀

[swift swan]

This is why we need hard level 2

To give the old CS regions the boost they deserve

Unova already has sick track. Imagine if it's as hard as Hoenn or Sinnoh

[mellow linden]

Oh yeah, week 4 is even more hype now because I got NY Lisia today, so I can use her against Bruno and my Hail Overload team against Koga

[keen jasper]

More ultra hard CS

Level 140 units with 50k base HP and lots of gimmicks

[zealous karma]

I know how they can make a stage annoying for the rats

[keen jasper]

Robust Physique with Status Immunity?

[zealous karma]

Targets the unit with the a buddy move and endurance and the stage has piercing blown it also ignores tactics and has crit shields on entry

[swift swan]

This... Is all just ignored by b volt tackle, really

It's just that powerful

[keen jasper]

What about Sentry Entry x5?

[swift swan]

Then Ash will dominate

[zealous karma]

Then ash one shots center mon

[swift swan]

Plus Red still has a special Gmax Volt Crash

[keen jasper]

Robust Physique with Status Immunity

[swift swan]

Dena making one rat physical and one rat special is really a fair and balanced move

[mellow linden]

I just want to point out how overtuned a stage would have to be to counter even one of the OPikachus

It’s not happening

[swift swan]

Hmmm. I still have a feeling B Thunderbolt with 6 gauges will do a good chunk of damage

[steel kelp]

Dena created a monster that cannot be stopped

[swift swan]

Also. Nothing stopping Red from flinch-cheesing with Staggering on thundershock unless the enemies have unflappable too

[zealous karma]

Give the stage extreme entry x5 if the foe uses phys or special electric time moves reduces damage by 60%

[keen jasper]

Now, what can be a name of a passive that ignores crit screen?

[zealous karma]

Crit shield

Only way to fully ignore pbs

[swift swan]

We have none yet, you can invent it

[steel kelp]

Piercing critical

[verbal karma]

I actually used Infestation on each of the opponents...maybe that was the error?

[mellow linden]

They should buff Unhindered to ignore crit shield, tbh

[swift swan]

In general I don't think the trap matters that much

[verbal karma]

wait

who does the sync attacks

Alder?

because I did them with Viola

due to the trap buff

[zealous karma]

If you’re using alder and he’s 3/5 should be more than enough to bully the stage with his sync

Otherwise he doesn’t need Spatk debuffs

[mellow linden]

If Aaron is EX he does 1st Sync, otherwise just Sync with Alder (and also make sure he uses his Trainer Move and Dire Hit+ once each if you're not maxing his crit with Aaron)

[swift swan]

You're... Doing Viola nuke all this time?

"nuke"

[void wyvern]

I think there’s more at play than just the team comp

[mellow linden]

Almost certainly

[swift swan]

Even with this:
Alder has much higher special attack than Viola
His sync has higher base power (if Viola is still 4*)
Viola barely has any sync multipliers other than her innate, it still won't compare

[mellow linden]

Hard to know what without screenshots though

[swift swan]

Plus Alder has Adrenaline 2 as a passive. If your Aaron isn't EX'd, just sync with Alder immediately

You'll reach 2nd sync easily

[zealous karma]

With rebuff zone and ex she can do this first sync idk where you’ll. Get rain or crit buffs from tho

[mellow linden]

Not the time for that

[zealous karma]

[swift swan]

Rebuff
Zone
EX

EX???

[mellow linden]

Probably means Support EX

[steel kelp]

viola ex

[zealous karma]

No I put Ex into the thing

[mellow linden]

Also, something I have to ask: why monotype? Do they not have better teammates for Alder than Viola + Aaron?

[swift swan]

I've seen Zinfogel do a Viola/SS Kris/SC Ingo clear. Viola did 8k with Struggle Bug but the SMUN stacks and all the set-up that it take wasn't worth the pain

[steel kelp]

What does Aaron actually do

Isn’t alder special

[swift swan]

Crit, I suppose

[mellow linden]

Aaron can handle crit and defensive buffs

[swift swan]

Alder's sp attack set-up is just 1 button away, it's better to just bring a crit support

[steel kelp]

I guess but there’s other options

But that means Aaron tm 3 times right?

[mellow linden]

I think a different Support would almost certainly be better, but dunno who since it's been a while since I last saw their roster

Also, this is Master Mode, right?

Please tell me they're not trying to monotype when they don't have type medal unlocked yet

[swift swan]

Yep

MM

[mellow linden]

Thank goodness

[zealous karma]

Are they doing a mono type run I can’t imagine why else you’d use Aaron other than crit buffs

[swift swan]

Theme skill synergy...? Well not really tbf

[verbal karma]

I actually buffed Viola to 5*

[swift swan]

I just checked pomatools. Even at 5* 20/20, her sp attack is still much lower and apparently her sync BP just stays at 240

Compared to Alder's 300

[mellow linden]

Yeah, only EX increases the base power

[zealous karma]

Alder is like the first “one tap” striker in a sense and he has hyper beam I kinda refuse to believe he’d struggle on a stage like this unless you’re using the incorrect parameters

[swift swan]

No matter how you look at it, Alder's sync is better

[mellow linden]

So still a lot worse Sync compared to Alder

[verbal karma]

ah, so that's one wrong thing I did

gotta use Alder's sync instead

[mellow linden]

Is there a specific reason you're trying to do monotype?

Aaron in particular should be fairly easily replaceable

[zealous karma]

Alder also isn’t slow and buffs his own Spd by 2 ranks so I feel@you may be doing something else wrong are you triple queuing?

[verbal karma]

I actually want to replace Aaron with someone

I just don't know with who

[mellow linden]

Show us your available Supports then

[zealous karma]

Normally I’d recommend Sabrina but she’s weak to dark

[mellow linden]

Is she?

I thought she was weak to Bug

[zealous karma]

If you can find someone else to substitute tanking on that team

[swift swan]

Just any fast crit buffer with good speed I suppose

[swift swan]

Lots of psychic types weak to dark in this game

[zealous karma]

(It’s a reference to how in the Kanto games psychic types didn’t have a proper weakness because it was bugged lel so she is weak to bug I think it’s a reference it’s to coincidental not to be)

[mellow linden]

Ah, I assumed she had the same weakness as her NY alt

My bad

[zealous karma]

Wow that’s not a lot of support Ex

[mellow linden]

Grid Marley for Team Sharp Entry and try Alder/Marley/Dawn

[zealous karma]

I’d either use Sabrina or SCJasmine to support

[mellow linden]

Alder's at 1/5 anyways, so Sp. Atk. debuffs are kinda whatever

[swift swan]

I was gonna suggest holijasmine if you somehow struggle with damage

[verbal karma]

oh, Holijasmine is reserved for R5

gonna go with SC Jasmine then

[mellow linden]

Why is Holiday Jasmine reserved for Round 5?

[void wyvern]

Viola is…something.

[mellow linden]

Does your team for that need her kit?

[verbal karma]

kinda

[mellow linden]

Wdym "kinda"?

[swift swan]

Electric is stacked. Doesn't really need the extra buffs from jasmine tbh

[zealous karma]

I’m curious what parameters are you using?

[verbal karma]

well, I need the two supports that I am using because of the Electric Striker I am using

[swift swan]

SS Elesa... Could be an option too I suppose. Fast syncs go brrr

[verbal karma]

because the Electric Striker I am using...is Hau

[zealous karma]

Hau is really good

[swift swan]

5*?

[verbal karma]

yeah

[zealous karma]

You’re saying that like he’s bad lel

[swift swan]

Hau actually has good damage

[verbal karma]

5* Hau

infact, I can even EX Hau

I haven't done it yet

[mellow linden]

Sabrina covers Hau's offensive buffs

[zealous karma]

I’d much rather you invest into more support Ex

[verbal karma]

because I still wanna EX Elesa first

[swift swan]

Do you not have Volkner

[zealous karma]

The stage hits hard but if you use Volkner the stave is free

[verbal karma]

I have Volkner, but he isn't built, I think

[zealous karma]

He barely needs a grid

[swift swan]

Doesn't matter. Hau/Volkner/support EX that can max Hau's crit

[mellow linden]

Get him to level 120, get his Electric Terrain MP Refresh tile, profit

[swift swan]

Clears even Electric-weak Aaron with this

[mellow linden]

Click Thunder Fang on Volkner, btw, not Wild Charge

[swift swan]

You might cheese with flinches if you're lucky

[void wyvern]

did we manage to beat karen?

[zealous karma]

We have not

[mellow linden]

We got semi-sidetracked, admittedly

[verbal karma]

alright, just wanted to confirm to myself: SC Jasmine is not the way to go

[void wyvern]

Alright I’m gonna go record a video of Karen

[mellow linden]

She should work fine

[zealous karma]

Also in case you didn’t see

[void wyvern]

I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t doing silly stuff

[swift swan]

Good luck with the heavy resets on r1

[verbal karma]

also, I am using Pre-Sync settings, but with "No Stat Reduction" replaced with "Max HP ^2"

and it's R4 Karen

[zealous karma]

I have no idea then why alder is struggling

[swift swan]

Tfw Karen took half of Aaron's HP with freaking Bite

[verbal karma]

because he's only 1/5

[swift swan]

Can you replace it with strength 1 instead

[zealous karma]

Alder is very good at 1/5

[mellow linden]

Even at 1/5 Alder should have little to no trouble

Could try Dawn/Marley/Alder

[zealous karma]

His move level doesn’t matter in fact alder was the best big striker for a very long time

[mellow linden]

For Attack debuffs/Defense buffs

[verbal karma]

also, SC Jasmine actually is even WORSE at surviving than even Aaron

[zealous karma]

I don’t have him but is it possible you can take a video of what you’re doing to show us what you’re doing wrong?

[verbal karma]

because Aaron can at least heal himself

[swift swan]

I'd rather you take Strength 1 as the replacement parameter for No stat reduction tbh. Gives much less HP than HP 2. Slightly higher defenses but it barely matters in the long run

[verbal karma]

Jasmine only has Absorb and X Regen

which is definitely not enough

[swift swan]

HP2 while presyncing is only hurting yourself if your damage is barely enough

[verbal karma]

Aaron being able to heal himself allows him to survive the sync attack

[mellow linden]

Try Dawn/Marley/Alder then, grid Marley for Team Sharp Entry and X Speed All Pep Rally

[verbal karma]

something that SC Jasmine can't

[zealous karma]

When I use SCJasmine she can usually rank well but mines Ex

[mellow linden]

Wait, wait, wait

[void wyvern]

I’m doing it on r4

I’m not that crazy

[zealous karma]

Wait how is she getting to sync

[mellow linden]

The enemy is Syncing? And you're using pre-Sync parameters?

[zealous karma]

We don’t have half sync countdown?

[mellow linden]

Do you not see the issue here?

[verbal karma]

yeah, I tried to do with post-sync parameters and somehow got even worse results

[void wyvern]

I’m gonna run on the assumption we go pre sync.

[swift swan]

Well if you're doing presync parameters, you should let Karen sync. At all

[mellow linden]

You need to actually KO before the enemy Syncs on pre-Sync

[verbal karma]

yeah, not possible

[swift swan]

Even if Aaron takes the sync, low chance your damage dealer will

[verbal karma]

Alder's sync attack hits like a wet paper

[zealous karma]

With alder it should be even more possible

Because he has adrenaline 2

[mellow linden]

It's very possible, Hyper Beam is hilariously strong

[verbal karma]

...oh...

[swift swan]

That's the whole point of taking presync. Of course you'll barely survive enemy sync

[verbal karma]

I used Struggle Bug constantly

[swift swan]

Welp

[verbal karma]

because Hyper Beam simply drains too much move gauge

[swift swan]

We did say Alder is a DPSer

[zealous karma]

What

[verbal karma]

and I am trying to queue

[zealous karma]

[mellow linden]

Sigh

[zealous karma]

Struggle bug is a very bad move

Like laughably bad

[swift swan]

I thought someone already tested with Viola/Aaron/Alder here? Did you have gauge issues?

[verbal karma]

...okay, I gotta try to do Aaron/Viola/Alder again then, but with more Hyper Beam use

[swift swan]

all hyper beam use

[verbal karma]

...as much Hyper Beam use as the game will allow me

since my move gauge is also -2

[swift swan]

If you're lacking gauge to triplequeue constantly, don't switch to Struggle Bug. It's the team that needs modifying then

[mellow linden]

Replace Viola with a gauge support if you can't consistently Hyper Beam

[steel kelp]

just get a battery

[swift swan]

How about HoliJasmine/Marley/Alder then. Marley gridded for team sharp entry. HoliJasmine for defensive buffs if you're so worried about that, plus gives SEUP next for more hyper beam go brrrr

[mellow linden]

Even Marley + SC Jasmine should be fine

[void wyvern]

Excluding the ex part. It gives a general idea.

[verbal karma]

okay, hold on, I need to switch "Strength ^1" back to "Max HP ^2"

[swift swan]

Imo that's only giving you more hurdles

[void wyvern]

Mac hp bad, strength good. (I think)

[verbal karma]

I am currently on strats catch up duty

[steel kelp]

bigger hp just means more time to kill you

[swift swan]

Compare the final stats. Params are exactly the same except 1 has Strength 1 and the other uses HP 2

Guess which is which

The difference is stark enough

With HP 2 you're effectively adding an extra 10k to Karen's base HP while with Strength 1 it only adds 6.5k

[void wyvern]

I knew the difference was stark but wow.

[verbal karma]

heck, I am still catching up

this is all too fast for me

[swift swan]

Tldr if you need to take off a parameter and need a replacement, use Strength

[verbal karma]

wait

I am using Post-Sync right now, though

that one already has Strength ^1

...damn, that means I am using both Strength ^1 AND Max HP ^2

all because I refuse to add back No Stat Reduction

maybe I should just add it back 😦

actually, yeah, I should, I stopped using Struggle Bug anyway

[void wyvern]

Maybe you’re jumping into this too much. If this is your first time in MM, take it slow, do a 850 (4,200) clear

[verbal karma]

this is only my first Johto MM

I did Sinnoh MM and Hoenn MM prior

[keen jasper]

Then Johto should be literal cakewalk if you endured those 2

[void wyvern]

Alright. You shouldn’t be mashing infestation after you do it to mid. Struggle bug will help you more for 2 reasons.

It weakens Karen’s sync
It weakens the sides after you defeat Karen.

[mellow linden]

pre-Sync is doable, btw

Since Alder should have zero issues KOing Karen before she can Sync

[verbal karma]

sadly, Alder has ALL the issues KOing Karen before she can sync

[mellow linden]

You're making sure to max his Sp. Atk. and crit, right?

[verbal karma]

yeah

hold on, lemme try the Pre-Sync setting one more time

but this time, with No Stat Reduction

[mellow linden]

He should be able to KO Karen before she Syncs no problem on pre-Sync parameters, yeah

Just make sure that the only move he uses outside of whatever self-buffing he needs to do is Hyper Beam

And if no EX Support then Sync with him

[verbal karma]

Nope, Alder can only remove half of Karen's health

[mellow linden]

What happened to the team alterations we suggested?

[verbal karma]

I didn't get to them yet with the current settings

however, Aaron sadly has the best survival chances out of your options simply because he can heal

anyway, the big issue right now is that Alder can't beat Karen before she does her sync attack

[mellow linden]

Then change the team more than just replacing Aaron

[swift swan]

Is... Is karen about to sync there

[verbal karma]

that is what I wanna focus on right now

[verbal karma]

yes

[mellow linden]

I think the 2nd Sync buff hasn't been applied yet

You did Sync twice by this point, right?

[swift swan]

Oh yeah. Was that after alder's 2nd sync?

[verbal karma]

yes

[verbal karma]

yes

[mellow linden]

Just making sure

Anyways, another thing I noticed is that you wasted 1 of Alder's turns by using his Dire Hit+ a 2nd time

[swift swan]

Hmm, how much damage did Alder do per hyper beam

[mellow linden]

He only needs to do it once at most since Aaron buffs crit by 1 stage

[swift swan]

Judging by this, he should do decent numbers

[mellow linden]

Once I finish up with taking care of other stuff I'll straight up do a run myself. My Alder is 1/5 and iirc no EX

[swift swan]

Thanks, cobalt

Unfortunately I really need to go to bed rn

Good luck

[mellow linden]

Understandable, get some sleep

[ancient lava]

Can 3/5 Sydney handle Dark-weak Will?

[void wyvern]

Easily

[mellow linden]

Might need someone to do regular move damage, but that's the worst case scenario

[void wyvern]

If Sidney is ex he will just delete mid.

[ancient lava]

Oooh no EX yet though

I'm saving my EX for latios

[void wyvern]

Then you can run an adrenaline support, or adrenaline on Sidney via grid

[mellow linden]

I think I'm gonna try a madman's team of Kiawe/MistyDuck/Alder for my test

I'll go over the results here when I do it

[ancient lava]

Thanks! Who's a good damage dealer for bug? A free one hopefully :<

[mellow linden]

Bugsy + Noland + an Attack + crit Support can probably do it

[void wyvern]

Bugsy, Noland, Hop/Aaron/Sonia/Hilbert.

[ancient lava]

Thanks!

Gonna think of MM after I unlock it

[long thicket]

I probably needed a defense buffer support, but I made it work with the Greninjas.

[rotund lagoon]

They can duo tbh XP

[long thicket]

I won post-sync and they needed help on defense.

[mellow linden]

Round 1 Greninjas + Nessa actually can murder Will

It's quite a spectacle

[long thicket]

Oh yeah, I recall using Nessa over Karen.

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah they can support another DPS

[long thicket]

Bulk seems to be Koga's gimmick.

Once again, I defeat the sides while he still has a lot of HP.

[verbal karma]

Welp, that ain't much better

[void wyvern]

Do you have a lucky skill on alder?

[long thicket]

Bug is unfortunately carried by the bros.

Or Ingo himself since I won the previous CS Bug weak with him and EX Guzma.

I like how Aaron's victory quote in this mode can have two meanings.

[mellow linden]

"Ain't much better" said as a full extra quarter of the enemy HP bar is dealt with

Honestly I'd recommend trying a 2nd crit Support instead of Viola so that Alder can take 1 turn to use his Trainer Move and then Hyper Beam spam

[long thicket]

Classic Elesa was very good against Lance with help from EX Sonia. Even without stats reduction, as she and Sonia did solid damage.

[austere quest]

I think I killed most of this week presync

Bruno, Lance, and Will

[hidden ore]

Which round do ya use for Koga?

I’d like to do msg e4 rotation challenge

[verbal karma]

In that case, it needs to be a crit supporter who also wastes little move gauge

[steel kelp]

phoebe

[mellow linden]

Kiawe

He's also a gauge support

And has Potion

Gives gauge accel at the start of the fight, can buff the team's Speed, can buff crit

[quaint solar]

Is their anyone available to help me build this win for this bug stage. It's killing my ass. It's on R2

[mellow linden]

What team are you currently trying?

[frosty axle]

you didn't try what I used?

[quaint solar]

This is what i have

[mellow linden]

There is literally zero synergy on that team

Literally zero

[formal vigil]

replace lyra vaporeon with attack crit buffer

[mellow linden]

No one's giving Noland his necessary offensive buffs, no one benefits from Rain except Lyra + Vaporeon herself, etc.

An Attack + crit Support instead of Lyra is the bare minimum of improvement that can be made

And that alone will be a massive improvement

[quaint solar]

If i do that then who is going to get him inertia

[mellow linden]

Do you not have Hilbert at 3/5 available?

Is Skyla not an option if the only Attack/crit buffer you have available is Hop?

Have you somehow used your entire roster of Speed buffers except for Lyra + Vaporeon?

[formal vigil]

noaland can also self buff speed

via his tm

[quaint solar]

Whats the pokemon name with hilbert

[mellow linden]

Samurott

[steel kelp]

Samurott

[mellow linden]

Oshawott or Dewott if you didn't fully evolve it for some reason

I feel like I've said this to you before

[steel kelp]

Do you not have anyone else for bug?

[mellow linden]

They probably can off-type it

[steel kelp]

That’s what I was thinking

[mellow linden]

Their roster is quite stacked

[steel kelp]

Then why use Noland

[quaint solar]

I only off type if u really have 2. I should be able to get this dam thing done ontype I think. Noland has like 527 attack then plus the inertia buff. I should get the job done right. Wish they gave him EX already.

[steel kelp]

Noland seems more pain than just off typing

[quaint solar]

Bugs

[mellow linden]

You literally have 5/5 Alder

[steel kelp]

You have alder

[mellow linden]

And SS Hilbert

[steel kelp]

SS hilbert

[mellow linden]

Why are you bothering with Noland?

[steel kelp]

Lusamine and burgh

[manic kiln]

[steel kelp]

Yet you choose Noland

[sand karma]

I was stupidly trying to make this work with Non upgraded Giovanni, Sycamore and Sabrina all non ex, kept dying to sides it was painful
Then i just decided to go with old faithful and Cheryl since there's not many aoe physical moves before centre dies. Why are there so few good sp atk buffing supports with ex

[main crow]

Unless ur doing some challenge run there's no real excuse not using either Alder or SS Hilbert

[manic kiln]

noland can clear tho, it's johto so but the fact that he has all that premium units

[sand karma]

Just did it with Aaron, Lusamine, SSHilb
SSHilb is bonkers

[quaint solar]

Did you record it?

[sand karma]

No (

[mellow linden]

You don't need a video of every single strategy

Some are quite literally "buff damage-dealer, damage-dealer goes brr"

[steel kelp]

Any of your other bug units would murder the stage

[main crow]

Especially when you have some big dps

[sand karma]

SSHilb is offensively self sufficient

I used one metal sound in the beginning

And one dire hit

[steel kelp]

But what if you used 3 metal sound

[sand karma]

Then tm, techno Blast, tm techno blast

[sand karma]

Time?

He's frail also

Can't let Karen sync

One shot poof

[main crow]

Bring a tanky support

He'll survive

[sand karma]

I used aaron who had done 4 or 5 defense orders by then

Pre sync

[frosty axle]

I am surprised he didn't use SS Hilbert he hits hard at 1/5

[steel kelp]

I did overkill with SS blue SS hilbert elio

All ex

Man when will they just let us challenge champ without going through all of them

Wanna test elesa

[quaint solar]

Looked at your video. You ignored "Bob and weave" and "blindspot" WHY? Or I'm a wrong?

[rotund lagoon]

[mellow linden]

I stand corrected on Alder and KOing Karen before Sync, it's either impossible or extremely close

I even ran an EX Support

TIL

[rotund lagoon]

Ouch

[formal vigil]

1/5 alder?

[mellow linden]

Yeah, doing some testing

[rotund lagoon]

Alder is surprisingly…more underwhelming than I thought when I first got him.

I got the dude in a select cause I lacked Bug

[steel kelp]

Alder worse than burgh

[mellow linden]

Trying Hop/Bugsy/Noland now

[rotund lagoon]

Noland, been a while :0

[manic kiln]

1/5 alder needs ex support and bug zone to pre sync

before the duo he's the only one to carry bug

[tribal agate]

even bug zone seriously?

i thought Alder could pre-sync Johto with only support

[dark osprey]

Yeah. 1/5 Alder is kinda underwhelming. Not bug zone for Kantos and Johtos

[quaint solar]

Is that what your telling me to use

[mellow linden]

I'm testing teams to assist a person who came looking for assistance earlier

[rotund lagoon]

Are you struggling??

[manic kiln]

use Alder, Aaron and a filler. alder use TM, dire hit 1 time then spam hyper beam, aaron use tm 1 time then spam defend order till max def. for filler you can use viola and spam struggle bug if you have trouble keeping aaron alive

[verbal karma]

Damn, still not good enough

[mellow linden]

Yeah, my bad. I tested Alder myself and he can't pre-Sync

[dark osprey]

Do you have Rosa EX maybe to spare?

[mellow linden]

I'm testing Aaron/Noland/Bugsy for you right now

[verbal karma]

nope

[manic kiln]

was that 1/5 alder? just post sync

[verbal karma]

damn, so post sync after all

[manic kiln]

needs zone to presync

[quaint solar]

This?

[manic kiln]

yes, let's see your grids

and check parameter

[rotund lagoon]

Oh and the round.

[manic kiln]

also no need to ex alder, should've exed aaron

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah Support EX is more valuable than Striker EX

[quaint solar]

Alders grid

[rotund lagoon]

Don’t just strictly follow guides, learn the teambuilding basics

[mellow linden]

And for my next trick

[verbal karma]

Round 4

[frosty axle]

Seems they don't understand how Noland and Beedrill works 🤔

[rotund lagoon]

YOOOOO BUGSY SWEEEEP

[frosty axle]

not you Cobalt

[mellow linden]

Noland and Bugsy level 120 at 4-stars, both had Critical Strike 2, Aaron has Vigilance. My Aaron was EX, but that shouldn’t matter since I didn’t Sync with him. Only Aaron’s Theme Skills were leveled

Grids incoming

[manic kiln]

yeah this, asking for team every cs is not gonna improve anything

[manic kiln]

yeah this should be ok

[rotund lagoon]

You have to adjust to your roster after all.

[mellow linden]

The grids. Quadqueue is required for the run, so Aaron basically can’t get flinched/Frozen at all outside of maybe Karen’s 1st move. Target Sharpedo 1st once Karen goes down

[steel kelp]

Guys gib me cs team

[verbal karma]

@mellow linden damn, Alder can't even survive Post-Sync settings 😦

[mellow linden]

I just gave you a pre-Sync team

[verbal karma]

I forgot...what team was that?

[mellow linden]

Only difference between things is that my Aaron is EX, but since I didn’t Sync with Aaron that shouldn’t matter

[verbal karma]

Aaron/Marley/Alder, right?

[mellow linden]

Start here and read until you’ve caught up to see the team

[verbal karma]

oh

I don't have Noland built

[mellow linden]

I switched up to Aaron/Bugsy/Noland after testing Alder myself and seeing that he can’t pre-Sync

[verbal karma]

like, at all

[rotund lagoon]

You have the resources to?

[mellow linden]

Noland only needs level 120 with barely any grid

[quaint solar]

What about gauge issues?

[verbal karma]

I doubt that

[steel kelp]

How do you not have resources for 120

[manic kiln]

not gonna be a problem, if you have gauge issue just use viola speed buff 1 time

[mellow linden]

You have 2340 universal orbs and the resources to level 120 a pair? Assuming you have Bugsy built, of course

Specifically Bugsy + Beedrill

3540 universal orbs is better because you get MGR9 on Fury Cutter for more gauge, but it shouldn’t be required

I literally went bare minimum on Noland

Well, almost bare minimum since MGR9 is more of a luxury

[verbal karma]

damn

I can only build either Noland or Bugsy + Beedrill

but not both

[mellow linden]

How many universal orbs do you have?

[verbal karma]

enough to be converted into 312 character orbs

[quaint solar]

It worked 😍 thank you

[mellow linden]

If you’re willing to wait a few days you’ll be able to get the minimum. Going up the right side instead of the left compared to my Bugsy grid, you’d need 636 total character-specific orbs, or 6360 universal orbs

[manic kiln]

bruh because that team is OP for johto standard

[mellow linden]

Should be able to get more than enough from events + Sync Orb daily

[steel kelp]

lodge

[mellow linden]

Altered Bugsy grid for less orb cost

If you can 5-star Bugsy and Noland + level their Theme Skills the run is even easier, but 4-star with no TS levels works

[verbal karma]

I had Bugsy 5-star'd a long time ago, but I don't have enough tickets to 5-star Noland

[mellow linden]

Don't need to

4-star's enough

[verbal karma]

I highly doubt that

[rotund lagoon]

How’d you get the transparent? •.•

[mellow linden]

I literally grabbed a level 1 Noland and got him to level 120

[mellow linden]

Pomatools

[rotund lagoon]

Mk I’ll look into it myself later

[mellow linden]

Anyways, literally my Noland had no investment before I picked him up for the fight

And all I did was level 120 and get the grid I showed above

He does not need much investment

The main issue with the team is that you need Aaron to get an MP Refresh and you need to quadqueue

[verbal karma]

...oh dear...

I don't like the sounds of that

Quadqueueing is EXTREMELY hard with Alder

[mellow linden]

I've completely moved on from Alder

[zealous karma]

He has adrenaline 2 and you’re still on Karen?

[mellow linden]

Have you not been paying attention

[steel kelp]

Bruh what

[verbal karma]

oh yeah, I forgot

Bugsy, Noland, Aaron

[mellow linden]

The main issue with quadqueue beyond standard difficulty is that Aaron can't get flinched or Frozen beyond maybe Karen's 1st move. None of the moves used have a high chance to do that, but you'll average about 3 moves per attempt that have the potential

It's not the most consistent thing, but it's consistent enough to be doable since the most important RNG happens before 1st Sync

[verbal karma]

...yeah, that is a problem

[mellow linden]

Since you should be pretty much home free once you quadqueue

[verbal karma]

Aaron gets flinched, like, 50% of the time

[mellow linden]

It certainly feels like it sometimes

I had to reset ~6 or so times because of random flinch or Freeze/lack of MP Refresh

[verbal karma]

it probably is like it, considering R4 boosts Flinch probability

funnily enough, I never had a Freeze happen

[mellow linden]

It boosts flinch duration

Not flinch chance

[verbal karma]

instead, I once had Aaron straight up die to Ice Fang

[verbal karma]

ah, whoops

[mellow linden]

The "more likely to take effect" is only for Paralysis and confusion

Because those have a chance to prevent a move's use once afflicted

Anyway, the team should work with pretty much any Attack/crit buffer, I just picked Aaron for easier quadqueue

If Hop didn't have the chance of Freevenge ruining it I'd have used him instead

If you wanna just get the fight over with today you can off-type or Poison stall

Oh, wait

Aaron gets Quick Cure

[steel kelp]

Or ya know

Off type

[mellow linden]

Hold on, lemme craft you an Aaron grid since yours is 5/5, in case you wanna stick with on-type

[verbal karma]

oh, I already have an Aaron grid

[mellow linden]

Oh, wait, Staggering

You may not even need to quadqueue

Depends on if you get the flinch for turn denial

Anyways, off-type is probably easier depending on roster, but the option is there if you really want to on-type

[verbal karma]

nope

Noland can't survive the sync attack

and Bugsy's sync attack hits like wet paper, even with the evasiveness buff

[void wyvern]

What’s your holiday Jasmine at?

[mellow linden]

The team’s goal is to KO before Karen can even Sync

Besides, I thought you couldn’t properly grid Noland and Bugsy anyways?

[steel kelp]

Hold on who are they even working on

[mellow linden]

Facing Karen still

[steel kelp]

I swear they’ve said they’ve used both

Despite saying only having resources for one

[mellow linden]

And apparently ignoring my advice entirely

[steel kelp]

[void wyvern]

Still karen?

[steel kelp]

Yep

[void wyvern]

Goddamn

[steel kelp]

Even said they could off type

[mellow linden]

What is every member of the team using, btw?

[void wyvern]

Actually I might be able to make Noland work. It’s an old strat

[mellow linden]

Because Bugsy’s 1st 3 turns should be Trainer Move -> Trainer Move -> Sure Crit, and Noland should only ever click Fury Cutter

And a question to see if I need to re-do all my work thus far: you do have a maxed set of 3-star gear, don’t you?

Because I’m 99% certain you’ve been around for at least 1 gear event

[steel kelp]

Atp they have

They’ve been here at least over a month

[mellow linden]

They’ve been on the server for years

[steel kelp]