Champion Stadium

[rotund lagoon]

?

You mean Lance?

Drake is Hoenn…

[summer abyss]

OH SORRY yes ;w;

[rotund lagoon]

Ok lemme write this here
Bruno is Fairy Weak
Karen is Rock Weak
And Lance is Water Weak

Mina can be the fairy striker

[void wyvern]

Mina was made for fairy week Bruno.

[rotund lagoon]

Rock I’m struggling with, I’m thinking of off typing with Cyrus

[summer abyss]

im gonna cry

i think i can do it

just skill diff

[rotund lagoon]

Hang on a second

Why not use Mina as the striker?

[summer abyss]

oh i should probably do that

uh

i dont know

but

isnt she a bad unit btw

[rotund lagoon]

Mina is great if you didn’t know.

She’s not to be underestimated.

[summer abyss]

i'll try to use her if i keep failing then

for now will try to not bloat my resources so if i need to lvl others to karen and lance i do it

[summer abyss]

but really? she is like D tier at sparkys tierlist

sorry to be this ignorant lol but id like to know if shes really good to be investing into

[rotund lagoon]

That does not mean she is bad.

[summer abyss]

oh?

[rotund lagoon]

Don’t listen to the tierlist for this situation.

[summer abyss]

why?

/legit

[rotund lagoon]

Fairy doesn’t have many F2P striker options, but Mina has been good for new players.

Like @void wyvern said, this Fairy weak is made for Mina.

[summer abyss]

gotcha

[sand karma]

They said they don't have many resources to build Mina n all rn

[rotund lagoon]

Just letting them know not to underestimate her.

[summer abyss]

about this i meant bc of my leveling tomes that are going scarce

im actually trying to not grid anyone

and to only with lvl 100 units

is this kinda stupid? idk

but anyways LMFAO thats what i meant but if necessary i can get her to lvl100 no problems if its to pass this stage

[rotund lagoon]

Feel free to level her if you still end up dying.

[summer abyss]

okay!!

i did it >:D

[rotund lagoon]

Ok nice! So which one’s next?

[summer abyss]

karen!

i tried roxanne/brock/ghetsis before but failed

[rotund lagoon]

Take out Ghetsis.

[summer abyss]

silver hop sonia N sycamore skyla ghetsis falkner and kiawe are unavaible now

[rotund lagoon]

So this may be a slightly taller order

But can you off type with Cyrus?

[summer abyss]

probably

will i need SS blue for lance?

the plan is may/CCalem/someone else but would SS blue fit in that

[rotund lagoon]

Yes that’s a fine team.

[summer abyss]

okay

so no ss blue for karen

[rotund lagoon]

Now for this, lemme ask this first, is Cyrus gridded at all?

[summer abyss]

no!

i kinda dont want to grid him but if its valuable i might

[rotund lagoon]

Ok so he will need a Crit, Speed and Sp Atk buffer. Also a healer.

His grid is extremely valuable.

[summer abyss]

i'm at 16,800 orbs so i think im safe

[rotund lagoon]

Why don’t I give you a grid build? Is he EX’d or Power boosted at all?

[summer abyss]

no

yeah sure gimme pls ;w;

should i level him farther than 100

[rotund lagoon]

Oh actually, lemme decide a team first. Can you show me your supports?

[rotund lagoon]

Try 100 for now.

[summer abyss]

he's 125 actually lol

[rotund lagoon]

Oh that’s fine!

[rotund lagoon]

Tell me which ones are unavailable again?

[summer abyss]

silver hop sonia N sycamore skyla ghetsis falkner and kiawe

[rotund lagoon]

Let’s do Sabrina for one.

[summer abyss]

ok

[rotund lagoon]

Roxanne for second.

Then Cyrus.

I’m hoping this one isn’t shoddy, but trying to make use of what’s left.

[summer abyss]

dw!

what tatics?

roxanne first?

[rotund lagoon]

Hmmm, I’m gonna double check some stats. I’ll get the grid build while I’m at it.

[summer abyss]

okok

[rotund lagoon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/916852389347196958/1061165963954880532/IMG_8700.png

Please note it’s not an official recommend, but I’m gonna have you try this.

[summer abyss]

...wait

will champion battle go away in 1 hr?

i mean reset

[rotund lagoon]

Also Roxanne, Sabrina and Cyrus for tactics.

You got two resets left.

[summer abyss]

or just tomorrow

oh okok

[rotund lagoon]

You’re fine ^^

Anyway, try the grid build I sent and the tactics.

[summer abyss]

sure

btw

is this a special rend cyrus?

spacial*

oh no its

water pulse?

[rotund lagoon]

Correct! His Spacial Rend relies on the Crit.

[summer abyss]

wait what LOL

[rotund lagoon]

Sabrina gives him two and Critical Focus will max it.

[summer abyss]

should i spam special rend then?

[rotund lagoon]

Yup.

[summer abyss]

ok! weird i like it

[rotund lagoon]

I think it’s more fun to do Spacial Rend than Hydro Pump.

Mixed up the moves mb

[summer abyss]

dw

[rotund lagoon]

Also you’re not doing a rain team so this is what I’m recommending.

[summer abyss]

btw how i should play as sabrina

do i sisxth sense as a Potion?

[rotund lagoon]

So Sabrina will boost Crit and then Reflect to reduce physical damage from the opposing team. You can queue with her Psybeam afterwards and heal as necessary.

And use Reflect once again before opponent sync.

[summer abyss]

is reflect temporary

[rotund lagoon]

Yes.

[summer abyss]

ok

another thing

sabrina is not gonna wide guard right

roxanne*

[rotund lagoon]

Karen does Twister post sync. Use Wide Guard before that.

[summer abyss]

ok

do i New World Order twice?

[rotund lagoon]

No, I’m going to have the Supports buff you instead to avoid recoil.

[summer abyss]

ok!

[rotund lagoon]

Roxanne covers Sp Atk and Speed.

And Sabrina does Crit.

You’re doing Hard Mode or Master Mode btw?

[summer abyss]

hard

[rotund lagoon]

I’m not worried then.

[summer abyss]

ok!

[rotund lagoon]

Go for it and I’ll await your report!

[summer abyss]

going!! thanks a lot :D

[rotund lagoon]

[swift swan]

Hi, i'm back

How's the run going

[rotund lagoon]

Hello! We got some ideas! They’re off typing Rock weak rn and I’m waiting for a report.

[summer abyss]

🫡

[rotund lagoon]

We have an idea for Water weak when they get there.

[swift swan]

What's the karen team?

[rotund lagoon]

Sabrina, Roxanne and Cyrus.

[swift swan]

Btw thanks for the cover, annie

[rotund lagoon]

It may be shoddy, but since it’s Hard Mode, I’m not worried.

[swift swan]

sounds great

[rotund lagoon]

Oh thank heavens

[swift swan]

Me @ literally every whack team comp I recommend to people doing hard mode

[rotund lagoon]

Start with the sides instead.

[summer abyss]

maybe skill diff?

[rotund lagoon]

Instead of going for the middle.

[summer abyss]

ok

[swift swan]

You doing spacial rend?

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah rain team isn’t exactly possible.

[swift swan]

Hydro pump hits harder offtype even without the rain imo

[rotund lagoon]

GAWD I WISH I REMEMBERED THAT

Hey @summer abyss If you fail again I’ll give you the Hydro Pump build.

[summer abyss]

ok!

[rotund lagoon]

For now I’ll wait to see how you do lol

Btw @swift swan I realized the reason, Hydro Pump has 80 accuracy, is that not an issue with the grid?

[summer abyss]

sabrina died b4 second sixth sense bc of honchkrow sync :(

[rotund lagoon]

The rest of your team okay?

[summer abyss]

no roxanne died lol

well, this time its palkia vs honchrkow tho

oh he died

[rotund lagoon]

Ok let’s do the Hydro Pump build lol
And don’t worry, your resources are not wasted.

[summer abyss]

its okay!! i trust you :D

i always like to ask that tho just to be 100% safe

[rotund lagoon]

Oh snap wrong pic

There

[summer abyss]

🫡

[rotund lagoon]

So what I sorta forgot is there’s an additional multiplier for Hydro Pump cause of Speed boost and then the boost in power.

[summer abyss]

maybe im having even more difficulty bc i think sabrina and roxanne are actually hard to play as lol

[rotund lagoon]

Roxanne is honestly easy! Just do the full buffs and you’re fine! And ofc as long as you’re triple queuing.

[summer abyss]

i am i think!

[rotund lagoon]

Would you like a refresher of how the queuing works?

[summer abyss]

thing is

palkia is not fast enough to hydro pump before first honchkrow atack

i read the thing a bunch of times

[rotund lagoon]

Did you queue Hydro Pump first?

[summer abyss]

3 attacks of mine > 1 attack of enemy
rinse and repeat

no

[rotund lagoon]

Hmmmm….you good at visual stuff?

I’m having half a mind to record a video •.•

[summer abyss]

depends

oh that worked pretty well when novemberninth did it to me

BUT DW lemme try a bit

i think i got it

[rotund lagoon]

Sure, no probs

[summer abyss]

should i still focus sides

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah try that

[summer abyss]

wlel nex time then LOLLL but ok

[swift swan]

I always take a few hydro pump accuracy tiles on the grid

Also, doesn't sabrina buff some via TM?

[rotund lagoon]

It’s all good, we’re here to help

[rotund lagoon]

She does, but it’s heal and Sp Atk. Figured Roxanne could provide them faster.

[swift swan]

If I don't take a single accuracy tile, I know the misses will screw my run

I take accuracy +10 at least and usually it's all good

[rotund lagoon]

Fair enough.

[summer abyss]

first try looks differtent

could kill honchkrow but pidgeot and salamence killed me

only palkia up when honchkrow went down

[swift swan]

I think that stage is a bit hard because Sabrina is a special tank while the stage is mainly physical, now that I think about it

[summer abyss]

(i forgor to focus sides)

[swift swan]

Is this R3?

[summer abyss]

[rotund lagoon]

I think it’s R4 actually.

[summer abyss]

doesnt reflect help that

and 2 def buffs for roxanne

[swift swan]

Yes it helps cushion it. But Sabrina in general has low defense even when Roxanne buffs it for her

[rotund lagoon]

And Roxanne is first tank, isn’t she?

[summer abyss]

yes

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah, bit of an ouchies.

[swift swan]

There's also the fact that sabrina is weak to dark

[rotund lagoon]

I did not take that into factor

[summer abyss]

oh thats why she dies to sync LOL

[rotund lagoon]

Ugh yep.

[swift swan]

At least there's good ol' SS Blue

[rotund lagoon]

We’re gonna use him next stage, should we switch?

Maybe Roxanne for water weak instead?

[swift swan]

Oof both are physical oriented

What's the bruno plan?

[summer abyss]

bruno is done! >:D

i dont remember how i did it LOL

[swift swan]

Oh

[summer abyss]

2 am

[swift swan]

So karen left?

[summer abyss]

i think you suggested the team lol

yes

[rotund lagoon]

Here

[swift swan]

Was ss blue used?

[summer abyss]

no

[rotund lagoon]

Not yet.

[summer abyss]

ssblue was planned to be used on lance

is it necessary?

[keen jasper]

Why is rock-weak Karen here when SS Diantha isn't even here?

[swift swan]

Ss blue can add defensive buffs, but it's overkill

[rotund lagoon]

Idk man, hate when the game does that.

So Roxanne for water weak instead Nov? •.•

[summer abyss]

honchkrow full hp vs palkia

well idk i think it wont work

maybe if i

[keen jasper]

Olivia?

[summer abyss]

REALLY minmax the battle

[rotund lagoon]

Not possible, they don’t have her.

[summer abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057681853915599000/1061476974175993937/BAt8mj98ikTwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg.png

[rotund lagoon]

Hence why I suggested off typing.

[swift swan]

imo CCalem/May is enough, any filler type can do for third

[summer abyss]

heres the roster again

[rotund lagoon]

Ok Hidekko, let’s switch things up.

[summer abyss]

sure

[swift swan]

eh, you probably don't need it

trust me May wrecks the stage enough

[rotund lagoon]

Use SS Blue instead of Roxanne. Have SS Blue be the main tank.

[summer abyss]

ok 🫡

SS blue syncs?

[rotund lagoon]

Is he EX?

[summer abyss]

no

[rotund lagoon]

Eh do it anyway.

[summer abyss]

LMFAOOOOO

[keen jasper]

Then sync only with your damage dealer

[swift swan]

to showcase the incredible and mighty SS Brock

[summer abyss]

is sabrina stayin?

[rotund lagoon]

Safety Net will help!

[swift swan]

I agree, do it anyway. gives your whole team endurance

[swift swan]

yes

[rotund lagoon]

I think she’s gonna have to.

[swift swan]

Try Sabrina/SS Blue/Cyrus and see how that goes

Sabrina can heal when it's clutch

[summer abyss]

okok

[swift swan]

tactics 1. ss blue 2. sabrina 3. cyrus

[summer abyss]

going to war 🫡

[rotund lagoon]

[swift swan]

good luck!

[rotund lagoon]

I’ve got yakuza to beat while waiting

[summer abyss]

nice

yakuza good

sabrina died to sync :T

[swift swan]

yeah, that's to be expected

[rotund lagoon]

You got the buffs in at least?

[summer abyss]

i did

[rotund lagoon]

Cool, keep going.

[summer abyss]

salamence and honchkrow left

[rotund lagoon]

[summer abyss]

dont think itll work tho

no speed

[rotund lagoon]

Move Gauge Accel

[summer abyss]

will try again

[swift swan]

hmmmm SS Blue gives MGA via TM but outside of that his speed is low

[summer abyss]

i should sixth sense palkia before sabrina dies right

[swift swan]

Using Cyrus's New World Order right at the beginning to give him speed, and healing with Sabrina right after that, can be a plan

[rotund lagoon]

Nov should they try doing Cyrus TM then Sabrina heal?

Lol same hat

[swift swan]

same hat!

[rotund lagoon]

[swift swan]

Cyrus wants the max speed for Ramming Speed on Hydro Pump anyway

and not like Sabrina's going to live long (rip)

so might as well

[rotund lagoon]

[summer abyss]

oh yeah i thought abt that!!!@!@!@!

amazing

[rotund lagoon]

Keep trying!

[swift swan]

this game is just a shitton of trial and error

[rotund lagoon]

Yep

[summer abyss]

i like it

[swift swan]

the folks over at Legendary Gauntlet know that pain well

[summer abyss]

SABRINA LIVED

IS THIS THE RUN

[rotund lagoon]

KEEP GOING

[spring fable]

[summer abyss]

THIS IS RIDICULOUS BUT IT WORKED

[rotund lagoon]

YAS QUEEEEEN!!!!

[summer abyss]

HOW THE FUCK MY MAN SURVIVED AT 1 HP

[rotund lagoon]

DUDE HE STILL HAD ENDURE THO

You had multiple chances to live!

[summer abyss]

wait

endure

Holy fuck

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah he was over 1 HP, meaning Endure was still up.

So yeah

[summer abyss]

I DIDNT KNOW

[rotund lagoon]

YEEEEE

[summer abyss]

LMFAO

anyways lance time

[rotund lagoon]

Ready for the good ol Water weak?

[summer abyss]

IORJBQWKY*(BEMJQIWOBEQW

this is so funny

[rotund lagoon]

Field effects!!

[summer abyss]

WAIT I NEED TO GET IT RIGHT?

WHAT HAPPENS IF I DONT

[rotund lagoon]

It’s not a fail thing, just do the one that fits best for the team.

You’re doing a rain team, so field effects are best here.

[summer abyss]

oooooooooooooooh

its not a question

its

a buff?

[rotund lagoon]

You choose the second parameter!

[summer abyss]

omg im gonna first time CCalem

i wanna grid him

BTW ANNIE you saw it right

i didnt resist. i pulled

[rotund lagoon]

•.•?

[summer abyss]

for ccalem!

i was in gem zen a few decades trying not to

worth it tho 9k gems >:)

[rotund lagoon]

Oh maybe I saw that post, I just forgot lol!

[summer abyss]

i talked with you about him actually IOJREWQJOIEQWOJI but its ok

[rotund lagoon]

LOL

[summer abyss]

ANYWAYS

i wanna grid him

can i

[rotund lagoon]

What’s his move level?

[summer abyss]

1

[rotund lagoon]

Not much you can do, he has a lot at 1/5 anyway.

[summer abyss]

;3;

[rotund lagoon]

How about May tho?

[summer abyss]

okay!

https://tenor.com/view/sad-crying-crying-seal-forced-to-seal-crying-gif-20960311

i guess

RIOJQWBJOEIQWe

wait

i'll try without gridding first

or do you think i should

[swift swan]

ayyy congrats on reaching Lance

[summer abyss]

THANKS!!

[swift swan]

what move level is May?

[summer abyss]

1

[rotund lagoon]

I’m wondering about May, what’s her move level?

[swift swan]

May likes the grid more

but idk what 1/5 gives, just pick the muddy water tiles I guess?

[rotund lagoon]

I’ll check it, one sec.

[swift swan]

the miracle of safety net

yeaa muddy water MGR, muddy water accuracy

[summer abyss]

did that

[swift swan]

yup, same things I picked

[rotund lagoon]

Should they do the duo team or is there a third you recommend?

[summer abyss]

how about the 3rd slot in t he team

is there any benefit in doing duo lol

[rotund lagoon]

Duo works for teams that can just handle it or don’t need a third slot.

[swift swan]

hmmmm can you list off every team you used before

[summer abyss]

scary 🫡

ok

[swift swan]

the third unit can be a filler to fill in a trash type

[summer abyss]

silver hop sonia N sycamore skyla ghetsis falkner and kiawe ss blue cyrus sabrina

[rotund lagoon]

Tracker again.

[swift swan]

Fire, steel, electric, fairy, flying, ice, dragon, psychic

and then calem and may cover dark and water

ok that's pretty nice

[rotund lagoon]

10 types.

[swift swan]

welp you can just throw in Hapu for ground type and spam the mud slap I guess

[summer abyss]

i like that

just who the fuck is hapu

do i level him

[swift swan]

[rotund lagoon]

Mudsdale

[spring fable]

mudbray

[summer abyss]

OH

IJOEWQJIOEVJOIQWJIOVEQJI

[spring fable]

or mudsdale

[rotund lagoon]

Gawd autocorrect

[swift swan]

I don't think you need to level her

she can die at level 1 for all I care

lol sorry hapu

[rotund lagoon]

Just have her be there to cheer on the team lmao

[summer abyss]

ripp

[rotund lagoon]

[summer abyss]

ok gonna try

w

[zealous karma]

Hapu is a girl

[summer abyss]

wait

may is with a mudkip

[swift swan]

ah, you need to evolve her

from sync pair stories

[summer abyss]

lmfao

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-i-forgot-i-forgor-gif-22449575

[rotund lagoon]

Can ya do that real fast?

[summer abyss]

yes

going

[rotund lagoon]

We’ll be here

[summer abyss]

i need to sleep

pls dont take much lance

[rotund lagoon]

No worries

[swift swan]

you still have around a day to beat him, no worries

[summer abyss]

tru

tho gamers gotta game

🫡

[rotund lagoon]

[summer abyss]

wait

i need to rain dance w may?

[old orchid]

yes

she needs rain

[summer abyss]

ok

and sync with her too right

[rotund lagoon]

Is Calem EX’d?

[summer abyss]

no

[rotund lagoon]

Go ahead and sync with her for the mega.

[summer abyss]

ok

that was actually very easy

first try

[rotund lagoon]

You completed CS?? •.•

[summer abyss]

I THINK SO

[swift swan]

you can use rain dance on may first turn. as long as you pick the "Permanent Field Effects" field param, it won't go away

[swift swan]

[summer abyss]

[rotund lagoon]

Hall of Fame screen??

[summer abyss]

i would be nothing without yall so thanks!!

[rotund lagoon]

Glad we could help!

[summer abyss]

ehehehehe

[rotund lagoon]

Sweet!!

[swift swan]

nice job!

[summer abyss]

now i sleep and prepare to gulp Villa down my throat

whenever its coming back

gnight!!

[rotund lagoon]

Have a good sleep!

[swift swan]

[swift swan]

we'll be here tomorrow too if you want to tackle next week's CS and complete the remaining types

[swift swan]

alright after 3000 years I'm finally gonna do another challenge clear for next week's CS

[rotund lagoon]

What’s this challenge?

[swift swan]

#1015843845008793690 message basically copied richu's idea here

[rotund lagoon]

Oh! •.•

[toxic cobalt]

Hmmm

Should I try that

I have what 20 hours

[zealous karma]

That challenge run took me like 15 monutes lel

[toxic cobalt]

I’d have to do thinking though

[zealous karma]

O

Maybe to challenge you guys further you can’t use the same letter names I did

Or if you do you have to use diff units

[toxic cobalt]

Is there like an alphabetical list of pairs in the game somewhere

[zealous karma]

There isn’t so finding the units is pretty annoying lel

[toxic cobalt]

Maybe next week then

[swift swan]

I use sync pair tracker

and sort by Name

[manic mica]

what’s a good team for koga?

[old orchid]

Hey there, can you send your roster here using sync pair tracker or taking a screenshot of them in the move level menu?

[manic mica]

me?

[old orchid]

Yup

We need to know your roster first so that we can give good advice

[manic mica]

ok!

i can’t use ghetsis, sycamore, or hop because i used them for the johto elite 4 member that isn’t will, karen, or koga

[main crow]

First, Silver or Sygna suit Red for DPS
Second, grab more copies of Silver since it's basically free (also the Cyrus, Giovanni and Zinnia)

Third,
Blaine/SS Red/Roxanne
Or
Blaine/Silver/Maylene or MCTorchic

That is assuming you want to run a physical Ho-Oh

[old orchid]

Judging on their roster, they might havent unlocked MM yet

So replace Blaine with SS Erika

For type medal and addition dmg

Altho i would run a defensive support for Koga

[main crow]

Oh right I forgot not everyone have that

[old orchid]

Havent tried 1/5 Red on hard mode Koga yet, so idk if he can do pre sync or at least kill him before crit shield

[void wyvern]

1/5 red in sun should get very close.

[main crow]

A defensive support I think is probably easier to fit with SS Red team since Hop is out of the book

[undone ether]

Argh bug weak

this is really really bad

[manic mica]

mm?

[old orchid]

Master Mode

[mellow linden]

Got a small typo there, but yeah. Master Mode is something you unlock once you’ve used 1 Sync Pair of each type across your CS clears of a given region. It’s basically a sort of difficulty customizer that can give extra rewards depending on how challenging you make it

[spring fable]

Excited for reset! I wanna try 10k johto so bad

[swift swan]

I believe in you!

[void wyvern]

We’re cheering you on!

[swift swan]

will be hanging out here around reset time if anyone needs me

[spring fable]

awesome, ty

[dark osprey]

Will surely get through. Would suggest a speed buffer/ gauge refill instead of Burgh only. Wouldn't need burghs dps when you have the other two going super crazy

[undone ether]

This should do it mmhmm

[main crow]

I know both Guzma and Cerena are rather light on the gauge use but wouldn't the gauge would most likely be barely caught up with the 5 bar needed per cycle?

[dark osprey]

Other than that lodge Serena team, all make sense

[rotund lagoon]

Why the Serena team? That’s a weird choice for a Flying damage dealer.

[main crow]

Maybe trying out?

[dark osprey]

I guess she's good to clear the centre but the sides would be difficult

[civic trellis]

Good teams?

Wanted to use karen for dark weak but iirc will has wise entry and impervious?

[rotund lagoon]

Ya, but Wise Entry 1.

[civic trellis]

Does that mean his sp def is raised by one or multiplied by one?

[rotund lagoon]

Just raises by 1.

[main crow]

Who has wise entry here exactly?

[rotund lagoon]

Will.

[dark osprey]

Not exactly wise entry. Slightly higher Special bulk

[rotund lagoon]

Says in the pins XP

[main crow]

Ah

How bad would the Will run guess since I'm planning to duo SSCyrus/CCalem

[rotund lagoon]

Johto easy tbh

[main crow]

True true probably still gonna be a steamroll

[keen jasper]

Oh damn I haven't planned out my teams yet

[rotund lagoon]

I do mine at that time lol

Cause I’m so good at teambuilding

[full mesa]

It's Johto. Just an on type striker with ex support

[civic trellis]

Changed up my team a bit

[void wyvern]

Is the alder 3/5?

[civic trellis]

SS Kris - 3/5
Karen - 5/5
CCalem - 2/5
Sabrina - 4/5
Blue - 5/5
Skyla - 5/5
Lucian - 1/5
SS Steven - 3/5
Bianca - 3/5
Hop - 5/5
Alder - 1/5
Aaron - 2/5
Leaf - 5/5
Ash - 3/5
SS Blue - 5/5

I think bug is the team I need help w most tbh

[void wyvern]

You don’t need both Aaron or hop.

You should remove one and replace it with a sp def buffer.

[civic trellis]

Alr ill see who I have

[void wyvern]

Actually another good idea is a sp Atk lowering unit as Karen has not too good resistance to that (lessen 3) so using viola isn’t a bad choice.

[civic trellis]

Would this work?

[void wyvern]

It should make a pretty good dent.

[civic trellis]

Alr thx

[void wyvern]

@rotund lagoon Mina go smack

[rotund lagoon]

YOOOOOOOOO

Also I just realized I’m a doofus!

You’re using the Pecking Order Build!

[void wyvern]

You use something different?

[rotund lagoon]

Well…you didn’t have Critical Eye on the build, right?

[void wyvern]

No, I didn’t need to.

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah, I used that build. I think its limiting her.

I’m gonna try the other build and see what comes out.

[void wyvern]

I had to run berserker here to max her attack.

[rotund lagoon]

Is it this one?

[void wyvern]

Oops, this one has critical eye.

[zealous karma]

• How *

[rotund lagoon]

Yeah wrong one lol

[void wyvern]

Right one!

Wait I just sent the same picture again

DAMNIT

RIGHT. PICTURE.

[rotund lagoon]

LOL

[void wyvern]

This grid was crafted with the sole purpose of maximizing sync damage.

[rotund lagoon]

Done!

Let’s give it a shot for myself.

[zealous karma]

Now do mina dazzling gleam DPS

[void wyvern]

You want video or pics?

[zealous karma]

Video lel

[rotund lagoon]

Oh I also did the extra Attack node btw

[void wyvern]

Hot!

The hardest part about Mina’s dazzling gleam is maxing your special attack

[rotund lagoon]

She also relies on attack for sync.

[void wyvern]

Thankfully if it’s dazzling gleam dps I don’t have to sync with her. I just snipe the sides with Wally!

[rotund lagoon]

Crit did not activate on sync. Biggest oof.

[void wyvern]

Team shout 4 is gonna take some luck.

[rotund lagoon]

I think…for a more general build…I should focus on this one after I get the pic

[void wyvern]

are you going around on purpose for the accuracy?

[rotund lagoon]

It was an official recommended one, and I was worried about energy management to get the other node I wanted.

[void wyvern]

You can sneak in super duper effective from the bottom but you lose the accuracy nodes.

[rotund lagoon]

Still good tbh

I honestly prefer the accuracy tho

Same reason I’d prefer accuracy gridded for Cyrus’ Hydro Pump.

[void wyvern]

@zealous karma here is the highest I could get.

Also fun fact, mind boggler is not affected by status mirror

[zealous karma]

💔

Also pog lel

[rotund lagoon]

What’s Mind Boggler again? •.•

[void wyvern]

This is where I’d use poryphone

If I knew the command

[rotund lagoon]

Lemme find it.

[cinder summit]

Mind Boggler 9

Lowers the target's Sp. Def by one stat rank when the user's attack move is successful against a flinching, confused, or trapped opponent.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Whitney (Holiday 2022) & Sawsbuck
Raihan (Anniversary 2022) & Flygon
Sygna Suit Wally & Gardevoir

If you like the bot, consider becoming a Patron: https://patreon.com/PoryphoneBot

[rotund lagoon]

[void wyvern]

How did you do that?

[rotund lagoon]

You can tap the blue /passive thing to see what I typed in.

[cinder summit]

Mind Boggler 9

Lowers the target's Sp. Def by one stat rank when the user's attack move is successful against a flinching, confused, or trapped opponent.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

Whitney (Holiday 2022) & Sawsbuck
Raihan (Anniversary 2022) & Flygon
Sygna Suit Wally & Gardevoir

If you like the bot, consider becoming a Patron: https://patreon.com/PoryphoneBot

[void wyvern]

BASED

[rotund lagoon]

I can’t help but feel like we’re the only ones with these capabilities outside the regular bot zone channel, so I try to limit it lol

[zealous karma]

Only teachers can do it ye

[void wyvern]

Probably using it for our own benefit is bad. But using it to grab a passive when helping someone is a good idea.

[rotund lagoon]

Exactly!

[void wyvern]

Becauxe opening the game, screen shotting, cropping it. Takes about a minute.

[rotund lagoon]

But for peeps that don’t have the passive or can’t find something (and is appropriate enough), that’s where I show the bot.

[undone ether]

Iunno. For Debuffs and Damage.

[rotund lagoon]

I’d personally do Blue over her, but that could just be me.

[undone ether]

i'll try it out i suppose

[manic mica]

so i unlock master mode after using 18 different pairs?

[old orchid]

*18 different types

Note that only the original type of their sync move is counted

[manic mica]

if nessa is used anywhere, she’ll only count for water?

[austere quest]

Nessa, yes?

[manic mica]

regular nessa with drednaw

[manic mica]

i got it wrong i’m sorry, hop is still in and skyla’s out

[manic mica]

is this a good team once i level them up?

[toxic cobalt]

A bit overpowered

You don't need an offesive buffing tank

Also you should spend that stamina

[white gale]

Also level up your SS Red and SS Erika

[vital gazelle]

they said once they level them up

[zealous karma]

If red was 2/5 this would be a very good team lel

[toxic cobalt]

Hard mode

[zealous karma]

Ye I’m aware lel

I’m simply impressed on the team building skills

[toxic cobalt]

True, good individual team! I'm mostly concerned it takes away Hop from other teams that need him more.

Also I'm not big on Red's haymaker, I've always preferred his dps

[vital gazelle]

the team works, especially since they need to hit typing requirements. hop is a waste though i agree

obviously blaine in place of erika would be more efficient but again erika gives them an extra typing to fill out the medal so it makes sense

[mellow linden]

Yep. Only the type of the pair's Sync Move at the start of the fight will count towards the type medal

So Gladion will always count as Normal, Champ Serena will always count as Water, and Champ Calem will always count as Dark for the purposes of type medal

[toxic cobalt]

And for the purposes of type theme skills

[zealous karma]

For SSR’s best team it does actually involve SSEirika and hilbert

So Blaine isn’t exactly more efficient even with his new grid lel

[toxic cobalt]

Does Blaine have mpr?

[old orchid]

For Sunny Day? No

He got Winona treatment

Candice and Acerola are the winner

[mellow linden]

Winona and Blaine at least still have other things going for them (flinch and at least passable Flying damage for Winona, Trap and a good Sync nuke for Blaine) and lack of MP Refresh isn't as problematic for CS

Speaking of weather, week 4 hype because I can bring my Hail Overload team to face Agatha

[vital gazelle]

using SS red’s best team is inefficient for johto CS lmao

even at 2k params 💀

but most people have fat enough rosters to do it with little consequence, but beginners may not

[vital gazelle]

johto cs is too easy

for those confused

[mellow linden]

That...still doesn't magically make it less efficient to use your best team for the stage unless there's overlap between multiple teams though

[sick anvil]

^

[old orchid]

Yeah using your best teams doesnt hurt, and you can challenge yourself by limiting some options

[mellow linden]

Like, SS Hilda/SS Morty/Gordie is extreme overkill for Johto CS, doesn't mean the team is more efficient if I did Skyla + Blaine instead of SS Morty + Gordie

[vital gazelle]

efficient may not be the right word but it’s a waste imo

[mellow linden]

I think "overkill" is probably the word you're looking for

Which I can agree with

[spring fable]

Difference between presync and post sync?

[vital gazelle]

overkill implies a surplus of power

which is like

kind of inefficient no?

[mellow linden]

Pre-Sync aims to KO before opponent Syncs, post-Sync doesn't care

[mellow linden]

Only if those resources would serve better elsewhere, otherwise it doesn't impact efficiency

So if you're running 2 Fire teams then yeah, better to split Gordie and SS Morty

[vital gazelle]

^ i addressed that here

[mellow linden]

Sorta, I guess? Your original statement was in response to SS Erika vs. Blaine, so it didn't make much sense

I can understand it regarding Hilbert being saved for elsewhere though

[vital gazelle]

either way, it’s probably better they use ss erika here, since she gives them a grass medal

[zealous karma]

some people just want to make easy stage easier

[void wyvern]

A major part of cs is both in planning and in optimizing limited resources. But even in a one month players hands, there is never a single answer at that point.

[mellow linden]

If she's not being used elsewhere yeah, type medal takes priority since the 2 have the same base role

[zealous karma]

a lot of people care a ton about optimization

[vital gazelle]

which i addressed of course

[mellow linden]

Anyways, yeah, for a newbie that's a solid grasp of teambuilding

[vital gazelle]

optimisation as in biggest possible funny number or making balanced (not overkill) teams to adhere to ones finite resources?

[mellow linden]

On the above Hop/SS Red/SS Erika

[vital gazelle]

yeah the team they made works

and covers 3 type medals

[mellow linden]

And as we love to say in this channel, if it works it works

Because sometimes the janky flinch-spam team is exactly what's needed

[vital gazelle]

as someone who poison stalled for months i can agree

but depending on their roster, hop could probably still be used elsewhere

not that it’s a huge deal for hard mode

[wicked pebble]

How does this look for prospective teams?

[mellow linden]

Hard Mode?

[old orchid]

What is Hilbert doing in Diantha team?

Except the Diantha team all of them are overkill and easy to clear

[rotund lagoon]

~~Kantrio team ~~

[wicked pebble]

Not really built much her, just some strikers.

And I guess he would be in there for speed and gauge management?

[old orchid]

Grid him TM Shielded 1 for extra def buff

Heck 2 more hours till reset

[wicked pebble]

Other options good for speed/gauge?

Given that she gets very gauge hungry?

[old orchid]

Roxanne or Marley

Be careful with Roxanne, she is weak to Fighting

[wicked pebble]

She wouldn't be tanking.

[zealous karma]

You could move ssb to the diantha team and get a diff crit buffer

for the n team

[old orchid]

They both fight for sync tho

[wicked pebble]

Falkner or Jasteela for the tank?

[old orchid]

SS Elesa tanking? Bruno has acc buff every time he uses moves or items

[zealous karma]

I dont really think so Diantha gets MGA and Spd buffs and ssb doesnt need to mega to be physically bulky his special bulk is the one I an bot confident i

[old orchid]

Also Will is immune to stat debuff so Pal Dawn is a deadweight

[zealous karma]

Oh my gosh again

[old orchid]

Yeah Diantha is a bit junky

[wicked pebble]

Dunno who to bring otherwise, gauge is the only issue there.

And that gets handled with the first pair.

[old orchid]

Is this MM?

[wicked pebble]

Best fairy striker I have.

[zealous karma]

tbh the teams are fine as is

[old orchid]

I meant the Diantha team

Bruno countering her gimmick

[wicked pebble]

No, I mean, Diantha is the best I have.

[zealous karma]

johto isnt hard if but doesnt hurt to make better teams

[old orchid]

Diantha isnt a problem, im talking about her team

[wicked pebble]

...I'm just confused now

[old orchid]

Let me explain again

After using a move or an item, he will buff accuracy for his team

That will counter SS Elesa gimmick

[wicked pebble]

I'm not tankign with SS Elesa.

[old orchid]

Oh

[wicked pebble]

I switched her out with Roxanne since she fills the same role and gives speed.

[old orchid]

No no dont tank with Roxanne

[wicked pebble]

I'm probably going to tank with Falkner or Jasteela.

[old orchid]

Yeah Falkner is better

[wicked pebble]

...I said I wasn't going to earlier.

I don't have confidence in her as a tank in the best of times, that's why I brought up using Falkner or Jasteela as a tank.

[old orchid]

Jasteela doesnt have defense buff tho

[wicked pebble]

Woudl Hau work better then?

Gives crit too.

[old orchid]

Hau is a strike tho

Are you talking about Hop?

[wicked pebble]

Yeah, derp

[old orchid]

Hop - Diantha - Roxanne then

Roxanne provide speed

[wicked pebble]

otherwise, all good?

[old orchid]

Pal Dawn does nothing in Anni Lillie team

[wicked pebble]

Well, who else, then?

[old orchid]

So you should replace with other striker

[wicked pebble]

That just eats up gauge.

[old orchid]

Anni Lillie - Jasteela - Fantina/Giovanni

[wicked pebble]

Lillie needs 4 gauge for her attack.

Having a second striker just slows down the rotation to a crawl.

That's going to be counterproductive to the idea of putting on offensive pressure ESPECIALLY since Anni!Lillie doesn't have any real trainer moves to use to stall.

How exactly would that even work out?

That would be 7 gauge per rotation at minimum.

Screw it, I'll slap in Lilltea.

[old orchid]

Anni Lillie - Jasteela - Fantina/Giovanni if Jasmine is 3/5

Oh Lillietea

[wicked pebble]

Hmm... second rule for Will or Karen?

[old orchid]

Karen

Permanent sand is better than permanent shield

[wicked pebble]

was asking since I think one result was ghost field for Lilltea?

[old orchid]

Bruh

Ghost zone is only 5%

And Anni Lillie doesnt need ghost zone

[spring fable]

Would y’all say presync is prefably with 3/5 strikers/techs?

While if only support ex prefer to go post sync param?

[old orchid]

Depends on your teams

If you can comfortable kill mid first sync, go for pre sync

Actually you can go pre sync with ex support by using quad queue and not taking -3 sync cd params

[toxic cobalt]

Presync is almost always easier

[spring fable]

from experience, ive never been able to kill mid first sync

not sure if its a main reason but i think its cause my main dds are often 1/5

[toxic cobalt]

You kill mid second sync not first sync

[spring fable]

even when using cyrus or silver, i get close, but they dont really die first sync

kill mid second sync is post sync right?

[zealous karma]

Id say only very good tech ex's can do it

[toxic cobalt]

No, still do it presync

[spring fable]

if quadqueue goes well, i can put out 2 syncs before my opponent gets 1?

[toxic cobalt]

Quadqueue or flinch or sleep

Or adrenaline

Many options

[spring fable]

oo okies

i'll try it out later

[wicked pebble]

done now

[dark osprey]

also denials help to go without quad queues.

for killing on first sync, u can select hyper offensive parameters and go for a decent syn nuke. be it tech or even some of the strikers. Strikers can also squeeze in one dps move after the first sync to get rid of the centre

However, wouldn't recommend first sync clears initially

[dusty path]

When you 2800 2nd round Will with the 3 Kalos legendaries 😅 Just something "fun" I thought I'd try

[toxic cobalt]

Lysandre truly does live forever

[zealous karma]

I’m more impressed a Zerena team went to 7 syncs

She can off type 3K pre sync im pretty sure lel

[dark osprey]

needs zone i guess

is it worth 3/5 ing Lysandre? seems all his good nodes are higher than that

[zealous karma]

She doesn’t need zone lel

[dark osprey]

for 3K pre sync?

[zealous karma]

Yes lel

[dark osprey]

probably would need it unless with another OP striker/tech

[zealous karma]

Maybe pre sync is a stretch but this is 3.5K and it’s close

[zealous karma]

You should be double striking with her anyways so

But if cserena can off type pre sync 3K I think she can too

[dark osprey]

i think the tech sync really adds for CSerena but yeah probably possible

[zealous karma]

My cserena is 1/5 and my Zerena is 5/5 soooo I hope zerena can

[dusty path]

Yeah my Zerena is 2/5, if she was 3/5 then maybe it would've been quicker

[toxic cobalt]

Probably is the difference

[swift swan]

alright, time to commence my first challenge run in literal months

[toxic cobalt]

Sycamore solo????

[spring fable]

wish me luck

oh im green

[toxic cobalt]

Or should I say, Sycamore Solo

[swift swan]

lmao

[swift swan]

yup, tech specialist role

[swift swan]

you're putting too much hope on me

btw good luck kirby!

[toxic cobalt]

I was looking at the unit lists and you can make good A B and C teams but D is not a thing

[swift swan]

R1: Physical attack moves are powered up (be careful with Bruno here)
R2: Sync buffs are more effective (postsyncing here is not recommended)
R3: Physical damage reduction at start
R4: Status conditions are more effective
R5: Move gauge acceleration

[solemn pine]

Ty

[toxic cobalt]

What neutral round parameters

[solemn pine]

doing standard 2k for now but will ask if need to

if thats what you mean

[toxic cobalt]

Not what I meant, but good luck!

Trickier week than last week

[solemn pine]

are there any entries or what is pinned is the week's gimmicks?

[swift swan]

nothing notable in johto, iirc

but do check pomatools just in case

I don't write summaries for regions not named Sinnoh and Hoenn hopefully Kalos comes soon plsplspls

[solemn pine]

ok

[toxic cobalt]

Don't do Bruno R1

[solemn pine]

i was planning on doing the elite four in order

[rotund lagoon]

Note the order of rounds impact your matches, make sure to think about it.

[solemn pine]

alright

[swift swan]

wow, Lance was so easy with Hau that I'm disappointed

aaaand challenge done

that was fun, I'll probably do a similar one next week

[rotund lagoon]

Nice

[dull yarrow]

Easiest stage ever

[swift swan]

#1011173305702690876 message yeehaw

[spring fable]

how did i start earlier than nov but still not done

[swift swan]

no worries, CS is a marathon, not a race

[latent eagle]

What's the best order to do this in for MM?

[toxic cobalt]

Are literally one third of your units masterfairs?

[spring fable]

nope

[swift swan]

shit, Aurochs literally counted the MFs I used this week

luckily I did a challenge run. my MF count would've been much higher

[spring fable]

i still at hard mode will

[swift swan]

it depends on your teams

[spring fable]

r4

im doing karen,koga,bruno and will

that might change for mm

[spring fable]

r3 bruno is still hard

[swift swan]

just pray you don't get a lot of close combat spam

Bruno opened with a close combat in my run and Lyra only survived thanks to the physical damage reduction on R3. I'm impressed considering how squishy Lyra is

[main crow]

Bruh can I get not hyper beam opener with Lance

[swift swan]

oh so that's why Lance felt easy for me

he never used hyper beam

[sharp totem]

simple as

[swift swan]

based Guzma EX

also, #1010274591601598555 please

[spring fable]

i cant get a 2nd sync in 😦

[sharp totem]

my bad

[swift swan]

against who?

[spring fable]

bruno

[swift swan]

what's the team

[spring fable]

team is sabrina, gio and skyla

[swift swan]

hmmm does Bruno just hit too hard?

[toxic cobalt]

Skyla gridded for flinches?

[main crow]

He does it twice btw if you got that

[spring fable]

yes

[sharp totem]

giovanni ex rerun will be neat

[spring fable]

just the sync i think?

oops ping

[swift swan]

could you quadqueue?

[spring fable]

no

i synced + queued 2
they queue one right after my sync ends

[toxic cobalt]

You gotta get the button right as your orange spiral is going away

[swift swan]

OOOH it was round 3

[spring fable]

yes it was

[swift swan]

yeah it makes sense

[toxic cobalt]

Ah round 3. Gotta get a flinch then

[swift swan]

either this or a good side-denial

[sharp totem]

next week

ground weak
poison weak
me w/ ss gio unable to decide

[spring fable]

should i remove the no stat reduc param?

[rotund lagoon]

Koga tho

[toxic cobalt]

Shouldn't matter either way

[sharp totem]

true

[old orchid]

Use Hapoo then

[sharp totem]

wait

i forgot i have halloween iris 💀

[rotund lagoon]

[sharp totem]

i pulled her only for the poison

5* spotlight options are looker and plumeria and yikes

also neither of which i have-

[swift swan]

rip, no hapu clears for aurochs

[rotund lagoon]

The game mainly wants us to stall tbh
Also Koga good for damage anyway

[old orchid]

Dont worry i will use ||Clay|| next week

[spring fable]

does skyla only get max 20% flinch on gust?

[old orchid]

No no they dont stack

They proc separately

The rate is around 39%

[spring fable]

would lucian work better?

have him 4/5

[toxic cobalt]

Cos stalling is amazing

[old orchid]

Lucian has flinch?

[spring fable]

no

but debuffs ig

[old orchid]

Oh debuff

Yes he is good

[rotund lagoon]

It is satisfying, yes X3

[main crow]

Excited to do my first CS stall next week

[toxic cobalt]

lol

[swift swan]

how come it's your first CS stall

people are missing out on the joys of stalling

[rotund lagoon]

[spring fable]

Any alternatives

[toxic cobalt]

Not a single flinch after your first sync?

[rotund lagoon]

You can try again lol

[spring fable]

1 flinch

not that it mattered

[rotund lagoon]

[toxic cobalt]

WHY ARE HTEY ONLY ON +2 DEFENCE

[rotund lagoon]

WAIT I JUST SAW THAT TOO

[spring fable]

trying to flinch instead of tm

it doesnt change anything

[rotund lagoon]

Max defenses bro

[spring fable]

+6 def they still die to 1st sync

[toxic cobalt]

No point flinching until after your first sync. You should be syncing and having Skyla target the left unit

[spring fable]

how come?

[swift swan]

no bianca huh

painful

[toxic cobalt]

Turn some of your strength parameters into attack parameters

[spring fable]

1/5 bianca

[rotund lagoon]

And I’d give it multiple tries before I declare a failure.

[swift swan]

much better

[rotund lagoon]

Do Bianca

[spring fable]

replace with?

[toxic cobalt]

Doesn't help with second sync

[swift swan]

because on your first sync cycle it barely matters how many flinches you get in, they'll switch to TMs and you won't be delaying anything

[toxic cobalt]

If you use Bianca keep the strength parameters

I guess

[rotund lagoon]

Replace Sabrina I guess?

[swift swan]

Giovanni/Sabrina/Bianca is a staple

[rotund lagoon]

Idk I’m struggling here tbh

[swift swan]

Giovanni likes the sp attack buffs sabrina gives

[rotund lagoon]

Oh k cool

[swift swan]

yes sabrina is hella squishy... at that point just tank with bianca first lmao

bianca can raise her own defenses

[spring fable]

there's no ex on that team

who do i wanna sync with?

[rotund lagoon]

Bianca legit is usually the last one standing at the end if everyone else goes down

[toxic cobalt]

Wait why aren't you syncing with Giovanni

[spring fable]

i sync with skyla for supp ex

then spam psychic

[rigid flint]

Yeah I was gonna ask

[swift swan]

stored power has clutched me more wins that I can count

[rigid flint]

Giovanni destroys everything first sync tho

[rotund lagoon]

YEAH—

[toxic cobalt]

No wonder you're not getting flinches

[spring fable]

huh

[swift swan]

I take back what I said, either one tanking is fine. for some reason I thought Bianca had higher physical defense than sabrina but apparently no

[rigid flint]

There's some units that don't really need support ex to do big damage

[toxic cobalt]

Sabrina is weak. I always tank with Bianca.

[spring fable]

my giovanni isnt ex and mega

[rigid flint]

Is he gridded?

[spring fable]

yes

[rigid flint]

And what level is he at

[spring fable]

err

125

[rigid flint]

Uhhhh that should be fine

[toxic cobalt]

I mean either team works you just gotta get the timing and rng off

[rigid flint]

Try syncing with gio first

[rotund lagoon]

Better opportunity for Bianca to be the deus ex machina

[rigid flint]

And if it doesn't work we'll have to find a work around

Tho it should work

[swift swan]

looking at this again, you're already very close. but why aren't you syncing? giovanni's sync could have killed a side

timing issue imo

[rotund lagoon]

[spring fable]

i thought syncing with skyla first was better cause it was 2 sync buffs

[rigid flint]

Theoretically yes but Gio's sync does a lotta damage

[toxic cobalt]

Generally but not when you need her to get flinches off

Also it's only +2 buffs the first time

[rotund lagoon]

There can be exceptions.

[rigid flint]

Also isn't Skyla's flinches fairly inconsistent?

[old orchid]

3 words: Koga is annoying

[rotund lagoon]

•.•?

[toxic cobalt]

Fine for CS

[rigid flint]

Right

[old orchid]

That damned Venomoth refuses to die

[toxic cobalt]

Skyla nuke

[rigid flint]

I've never used her flinch grid for CS so I wouldn't know

[swift swan]

3 words: high special defense