#Champion Stadium

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agile drum
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Sycamore just moon blasts away and uses his TM to get rid of para

frosty axle
keen jasper
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Not bad considering that Silver only has +3 speed

verbal karma
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No, this team just isn't working out

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Not only is Fantina unable to survive more than 3 AOE attacks, Roxanne is bad at tanking Shadow Ball as well

swift swan
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Well yeah that's the thing with Phoebe. Hits too damn hard and Roxanne's not bulky enough

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You can use wide guard to prevent AOEs but you need to time it well or else it will ruin your queue

verbal karma
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Sadly, Wide Guard also requires good MPR luck

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Which I also don't have

swift swan
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Did you get to sync with cynthia at least? And how much damage did she do

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Sometimes CS runs can be RNG reliant, nothing much I can say LanceShrug

verbal karma
swift swan
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Is ss blue available?

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If he's EXd and 2/5, you can sync with him for support EX and endurance (grid him with adrenaline)

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Then 2nd sync goes to cynthia, which should be able to wipe out mid even at 2/5

verbal karma
swift swan
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RosaThink did she crit? She should do way more I think

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Also, is this presync or postsync params

verbal karma
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Presync, but I replaced "No Stat Reduction" with "Max HP ^2"

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I ended up removing "Max HP ^2" entirely, and I was able to win...thankfully, I only need 9500 points in total

swift swan
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Ah, it's probably better to pick up strength 1

verbal karma
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Which I should be able to get with a full 2000 points again

swift swan
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Gives much less HP than HP 2 and the extra attack and defense barely matters

verbal karma
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Anyway, R2 or R4 gimmick for Steven?

keen jasper
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Hold on

old orchid
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What pairs are you going to use?

keen jasper
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Now kaboom goes the Wally

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With only -5 Sp. Def.

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Wish Sidney did Close Combat for an extra Sp. Def. drop

verbal karma
keen jasper
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For Cynthia's multipliers?

verbal karma
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I have Acerola and an unbuilt Bertha since I already used up Flyhan

verbal karma
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Okay, Cynthia/Acerola/SS Blue then

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Done

keen jasper
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How many points?

verbal karma
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9900 points

keen jasper
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Damn, this new damage is da goat

verbal karma
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the new damage display is not very goated, though

swift swan
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Reminds me of the 10k MM points when it came out the first time

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10,00
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keen jasper
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Wish she had EX

agile drum
frosty axle
agile drum
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should be fine too, yeah

onyx ice
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I just used offtype against fairy weak, i wanted to clear with -2 sync without having to deal with thunder weave

keen jasper
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Hmmm, next week we have rock-weak, fairy-weak, ghost-weak, water-weak and fire-weak

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Rock weak can't be SS Diantha because she'll be released after that
Fairy weak is for NY Lisia
Ghost weak is for NY Dawn and/or Anni Lillie
Fire weak is for Anni N
Water weak is for Cerena

reef sierra
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Oh no

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Im lacking on most of that

keen jasper
main crow
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Don't worry to much about not having op on type units

reef sierra
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Ghost if I dont get Lilie, Rock,

main crow
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This is Johto

reef sierra
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and fairy

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Oh johto

main crow
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Things like gen pools character should be doable for 10K

keen jasper
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Yeah, Johto CS

reef sierra
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I have water but my fire is eh i have SS Red but he is onyl 2/5

keen jasper
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Even Valerie can carry you against fairy-weak Bruno

reef sierra
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also i dont have its CsMm unlocked yet so i guess ill wait for the next next week to unlock it

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oh yah i can use silver

keen jasper
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The transition from Hoenn CS to Johto CS is like you lifting 500 pounds of weight and then you suddenly carry 50 pounds

reef sierra
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I know Like it was Kanto i think then became sinnoh then hoenn

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Like on Kanto i did my first 10k then at sinnoh and hoenn I only managed to do 9ks or 8k

main crow
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The shift from Kanto to two of the more difficult league feels like a whiplash ngl

keen jasper
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I wonder what Kalos CS will be like

reef sierra
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Is Alola and Unova CS Hard? i never tried them before

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back then i ignore cs because i lack pairs

main crow
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Hmm not really imo

reef sierra
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easier than Hoenn and Sinnoh?

main crow
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They don't have gimmick like Sinnoh or hoeen's raw power

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Yeah easier

keen jasper
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Sinnoh and Hoenn are probably the pinnacle of CS

main crow
zealous karma
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That’s so expensive for silver

reef sierra
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preparation for fluid fortification Diantha

keen jasper
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I'm gonna so overkill the shit outta Lance next week with Cerena

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She'll probably deal like over halfway to the new damage cap

reef sierra
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new damage cap?

keen jasper
reef sierra
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Oh damn

main crow
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They need to adjust the positioning of it a lil tho SophoKEK

agile drum
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it's just display cap, you could deal as much damage before too

main crow
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Nerf it a lil tho like idk remove the sentry entry x2

keen jasper
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Except now, all unit have an equal chance against her

reef sierra
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yeah i was there i was happy when I beat her with just SST red debuffs but the next day i got Cerena lol

main crow
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Wow some timing

steel kelp
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Even without sentry entry she still gets buffs way too fast

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Then fluid fortification kicks in

reef sierra
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the buffs were from the sides right?

keen jasper
main crow
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Yup

keen jasper
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And also when she does Hail and when she sync

main crow
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They increased like 2 types of buff for every move they do

reef sierra
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Ah right that god i hated that

keen jasper
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Both sides have Pep Rally, but Solrock has Shielded and Lunatone has Barricade Buddies

tender valve
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Not 100% F2P but this team mega-bullied the 2k round vs Pheobe. general strength + hp build for CSMM points

zealous karma
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I should try Janine nuke

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But I’m running out of orbs

tender valve
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I just ran her as poison/ debuff . The accuracy debuff worked out well for the team. Pheobe was at -6 everything SophoKEK

manic mica
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Finally, after a long long wait i am able to beat the champions league / elite 4 members for the first time

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😱😱

zealous karma
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Why have 2 people off typed dragon

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Looking at these replay video things makes me feel way less like a whale cause wow

molten nimbus
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I offtyped it too because I forgot Cyrus is a thing

zealous karma
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Zerena exists…

agile drum
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Zerena is from almost a year back

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new people don't have her

white gale
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where can you see replays?

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ah found it, I have to reset CS

white gale
zealous karma
agile drum
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I suggested for them to allow us to press "generate replay" after a run that can be shared

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would allow me to share runs, since I dont have good enough net to record

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although the current feature is still buggy, some moves like Shadow Force can make the replay fail

toxic cobalt
swift swan
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the current common teams feature is kinda whack

ancient lava
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what are some good modifiers for MM? It's my first time

swift swan
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hi! for your first time doing MM, it's recommended to do 850 points per round, which lands you at 4.2k total, which is where the good rewards stop. there are standard 850 parameters on pins!

ancient lava
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thank you!

swift swan
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do keep in mind that you might need to tweak them to your team(s)' needs. as a general rule of thumb, Strength is a good replacement for those parameter options that you might need

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Hoenn is overall a tough region and there are certain gimmicks you might need to adhere. I wrote summaries for each stage to know what to look out for

ancient lava
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thanks! hope i can go 4.2k well enough since i just started last month

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thank u! i love this community

thin pecan
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What’s going on with drake this week

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I cannot beat him

swift swan
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he wants a change of weather so he hits less hard and status change so you can hit harder

ancient lava
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hmmm i have enough for 1 more ex, whats a good number of supp exs in general?

swift swan
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if you're doing master mode, pick up the gradual healing parameter to deactivate his Acute Senses

thin pecan
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What’s a good team for him this week then

agile drum
ancient lava
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yes!

agile drum
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you can do 2k on Glacia

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easily

ancient lava
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oooh, assuming i go with blaine supp?

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then something tanky ig

agile drum
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yes, just go all into the sync nuke

zealous karma
agile drum
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i shouldn't teach you an advanced strat first, but you basically want to kill her with your first sync with that strat

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so you could even tank with Blaine

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he can even die

ancient lava
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how does that work? sun + boost everything then sync?

swift swan
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I know this is just me being lazy but I wish we didn't have to beat all E4 stages just so we can test a team vs the champion CaitlinSleeper make it a test run with absolutely no rewards pls

ancient lava
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im assuming im gridding for max multipliers?

agile drum
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and take attack + sync cd for enemy parameters and not strength

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so you can deal around 34k dmg with his sync to the middle

swift swan
ancient lava
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damn

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thanks rybek

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ill try it out

agile drum
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do you have any other fire units to put as 3rd?

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it can work even with just 2 units though

swift swan
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the difficulty jump might be surprising, since Glacia herself has high offenses in general

agile drum
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2 units are bit more annoying because you need to reset for Blaine to not die too fast

ancient lava
thin pecan
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Does restrained count as an effect status

molten nimbus
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No

agile drum
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you could put SS Red in too then, to help finishing mid off if it survives with some low hp

molten nimbus
swift swan
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which is what Drake wants

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to know what counts as a status change, go to Filter > Known Moves > Status Change section

swift swan
agile drum
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oh no, nevermind, you should put a speed buffer too

swift swan
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MGR passive and just good speed in general

agile drum
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Silver might need that Inertia

swift swan
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https://youtu.be/T9iAeJkepik this might help you out

Today I want to show you how the Champion Stadium Master Mode Hoenn Challenge Week 4, Season 2 can be done for 10000 points with F2P sync pairs as long as they have been invested in with candies and orbs you should have no problem following this.

If you would like to see more videos like this click this link
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe_...

▶ Play video
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credits to eevee

agile drum
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he's running a normal team but yeah, Silver destroys on type with sun

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this is what my strat would run

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basically one shoot enemy with sync while barely not dying

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you can remove ally hp at start and take str 3 instead, should still be within one shoot range, just gotta clear up sometimes by attacking once

swift swan
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the strat would require resetting so Glacia doesn't spam blizzard SophoKEK

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but yeah Silver should be able to clear it on first sync, or slightly after

ancient lava
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sydney was annoying

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had to offtype with ss n

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i say 'had to offtype' when i dont really have any fairy strikers lmao

swift swan
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Mina can work for 850 points, but for 2k she needs a lot of support

agile drum
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lodge Lillie is plain easier to use

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her stats are much higher too

swift swan
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I completely forgot I have lodge lillie now

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ah well

agile drum
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lillie

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both set to 4*

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Lillie also has SEUP guaranteed on her TM

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that makes the fight very easy

ancient lava
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thanks rybek

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used your strat

agile drum
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worked fine?

ancient lava
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didn't work the first few times

zealous karma
ancient lava
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but then i realized i picked strength +6

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took it out then everything went fine

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mid survived though but an overheat finished it fine

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I did blaine/silver/roxanne

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rox for the speed boost

agile drum
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yeah, it's in that range where she might survive sometimes depending on luck

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you have fire gear, right?

ancient lava
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uhhh

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no :<

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whats gear for

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i only saw that it increases stat

agile drum
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increases stats

ancient lava
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what role does type specificity play? ie fire gear vs psychic gear

agile drum
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your type gets the full bonus, other types half of it

ancient lava
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ah got it

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depends on sync move type right?

agile drum
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so fire gear for Silver is a big +60 atk

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sync move type is the unit's type

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so even if you use Hydro Pump with Palkia dragon gear boosts it

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contrary to the dragon type theme skill that doesn't

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also units that mega evolve or change forms multiply the stats added by gear and potential too, but not type theme skill ones or grid ones

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stat buffs multiply everything mentioned here

ancient lava
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okay thats crazy

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i need to pay more attention to gear lmao

agile drum
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there's SS Steven who has one of the highest damage in the game precisely because of gear

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his form change raises stats x2, and gear becomes 120 instead

ancient lava
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oh okay wow

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i didn't know about that aspect of ss steven

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always heard he was the worst of the current anni units

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finally champion battle for my first master mode!

swift swan
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that's anni steven

ancient lava
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time to yeet with both greninjas lmao

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OH

swift swan
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anni steven and ss steven are like night and day lol

ancient lava
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OHH

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oh yeah

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ss steven was deoxys

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my bad

swift swan
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no worries, we have too many stevens

void wyvern
agile drum
swift swan
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can you implement a Wallace alt too

velvet dock
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I'll be honest, logging in and seeing all of the op teams with auto replay is funny

rose ermine
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You Want Fun?Wario Show You Fun BrandonFlawlessVictory

void wyvern
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hunters instinct Courtney is funny, change my mind,

sacred mountain
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Can someone help me make teams?

keen jasper
sacred mountain
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Everyone 👍

full mesa
sacred mountain
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MM

full mesa
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Ok.

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Send Screenshot

sacred mountain
full mesa
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Give me a moment.

keen jasper
# sacred mountain

Phoebe: Fantina
Glacia: Silver
Drake: Lucas
Sidney: Anni Lillie
Steven: maxie

sacred mountain
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Wait Fatina actually became a unit?

keen jasper
sacred mountain
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I reinstalled yesterday after Maxie rerun

full mesa
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R1: Fairy -> SSBlue/Sycamore/Anni Lillie
R2: Phoebe -> Roxanne/Skyla/Giovanni (Shadow Ball). Aim for pre-sync.
R3: Lucas/ZinniaMRay/weather changer
R4: Hilbert/Silver/Bald scientist
R5: Hop/Maxie/Lyra.

keen jasper
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With her expanded grid, she does more than Anni Lillie

sacred mountain
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Better than Shadow ball mew2?

full mesa
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Also you can Bianca/Lucian/SSteven-LuSSamine for off type.

keen jasper
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But I saw that Fantina's Shadow Ball is almost similar to Lillie's Moongeist Beam

sacred mountain
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Or do i go SSmay?

old orchid
keen jasper
old orchid
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yeah it;s enough

keen jasper
old orchid
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the gap is still big tho

agile drum
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i assume Fantina can match Giovanni if you consider sync dmg now

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except you have to ex her for sides...

solemn pine
old orchid
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maximised

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tho SEUN isnt accounted in Fantina's max damage

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if it is accounted the gap will be shorter

old orchid
full mesa
agile drum
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seun is usually put in special condition

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is the grid on that page updated?

keen jasper
old orchid
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right

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the thing makes her better than him is her ontype sync

onyx ice
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She has se up next, self special attack buffs, better spdef debuffs, Sinnoh (for renegade Cynthia)

sand karma
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Her setup takes too long
Better to bring a spdef debuffer beside her

onyx ice
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Yes but topping up 2spa is easier than having to provide 6

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If you go fantina DPS, you don't even need to bring a dedicated spdef debuffer

dark osprey
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Yeah. Fantina has great sp defense drops

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When those -2 sp defense drops trigger it's really satisfying

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And the best part of relentless and smarty pants is the natural damage increase from defense drops

onyx ice
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Yes, much better than stuffs like cackewalk, since speed debuffs are only useful for passives

bleak eagle
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Any round order? Been a while since ive done champion stadium

sand karma
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No round 3 Glacia or phoebe

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If you have SSWally he makes good use of r 4sidney

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R2 needs pre sync so choose it based on your units

sand karma
void wyvern
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Drake is primarily physical.

hearty lynx
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Was a nice sand team

spring fable
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I only did 5550 this week WhitneySad

hearty lynx
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It was my first time doing master mode got to 5k

swift swan
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You can most likely 10k the entire Johto though

spring fable
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Heck yeah I’ll give it a try

swift swan
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players growing up with Sinnoh and Hoenn are built different ArchieFlex

toxic cobalt
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You can do it!

spring fable
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Put this tgt for next week 2k

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Haven’t attempted 2k params before at all

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Thank arceus they barely have any entries

swift swan
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looks good

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maybe tank with Hop instead of Sycamore on the bruno team

spring fable
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i wanted to put someone with speed buff in bruno team but dont have any good ones

swift swan
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Sycamore buffs speed shrugred

spring fable
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ig RoxanneThis

toxic cobalt
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Sycamore Hop X will win any stage anyway I wouldn't worry about it

swift swan
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can't wait for their EXs AAAElio

toxic cobalt
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I hope with Sycamore EX Nov you will do more Sycamore solos

civic trellis
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These last 3 r prob the most exciting

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The first 5 r good but sycamore/hop r supports and solgaleo is w mc

manic mica
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I wished sycamore had a more rainbow aesthetic though

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This ex one looks kinda meh

keen jasper
toxic cobalt
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Critical crit PoryWoke

swift swan
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I've never done any sycamore solo WEEZing

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will need to wait and see what his powerboost will be first

swift swan
swift swan
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I appreciate your faith in me CalemRelieved

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prepare to be disappointed lol

toxic cobalt
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pretty sure my first ever sinnoh 2k was a Sycamore solo

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Thought I'd bust right in

swift swan
plucky pewter
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I'm out here trying to figure out how to make a 1/5 AnniLillie work against pheobe 😂

toxic cobalt
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With speed support

plucky pewter
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Ohh.. 😮

keen jasper
swift swan
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yeah

zealous karma
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I think sycamore will get sync burst and endurance from his power boost and maybe furious brain on moonblast

swift swan
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how about furious brain in general so his horn leech can take advantage of it too SabrinaPray

zealous karma
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You underestimate dena

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After Ghetsus power boost I’m going to be more skeptical about the stuff

spring fable
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how about more master healer tiles HapuStare

toxic cobalt
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+2 atk on tm

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Will be very nice

old orchid
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or TM Shielded

bleak eagle
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sycamore got an ex? huh

swift swan
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will be getting one soon

plucky pewter
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Lol I Gridded my cynthia/Garchomp for the last battle then forgot to put her on team 😂

main crow
sacred mountain
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Phoebe is hard round 2

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My whole team died when they sync

swift swan
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Don't let them sync EthanGenius

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Phoebe has high offensive stats, she hits very hard in general

keen jasper
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And she also has multipliers too

swift swan
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Haymaker HilbertHmm even though she doesn't buff her attack too much

dark osprey
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She does right? With unbreakable bonds?

old orchid
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she has Fierce Entry 1 too

swift swan
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Oh right, I missed that part of unbreakable bonds

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Mainly because I don't have Phoebe MistyAnger

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But that just means her furious brawn only gets very deadly postsync

void wyvern
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Phoebe will just pull out her TM and skyrocket her attack and put you in the microwave.

swift swan
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she uses her TM right before her sync. can't take advantage of those attack buffs when she's dead

dark osprey
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That's why you bring SS Misty EthanGenius

rigid flint
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That's why you bring SS Korrina

void wyvern
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Imagine not using brycen

rigid flint
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U got me there

keen jasper
void wyvern
old orchid
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Imagine not using Lear

void wyvern
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Is there anymore stat thieves we’ve forgot about!

toxic cobalt
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Imagine not using Dawn

dark osprey
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Sorry. My bad. Overlooked a few gems

rigid flint
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Damn imagine not using Serena

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Leech their stats bit by bit

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Oh and SC Diantha

swift swan
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I want to make a funny comment about Lodge Dawn and the Struggle Bug: On a Roll 4 but Phoebe buffs attack and not special attack, hah

void wyvern
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She does use shadow ball

manic mica
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thoughts for next week HilbertHmm

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oh koga team 💀

main crow
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Ghost is overkill SophoKEK

keen jasper
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Johto is like an adult vs. baby

main crow
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These looks solid

keen jasper
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While Sinnoh and Hoenn is like adult vs. demigods

toxic cobalt
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Nah, they're not that bad

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Just gimmicky

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Except steel-weak Bertha

main crow
manic mica
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might try and duo clear each stage next week then

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or even solo

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solo allister

keen jasper
swift swan
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If you can deal with Sinnoh and Hoenn back to back without losing sanity then you can deal with the rest

sacred mountain
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Can Fantina clear Phoebe? With spotlight units

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No EX

swift swan
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I'm pretty sure I've seen a fantina clear HilbertHmm

dark osprey
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Fantina with sp defense debuffs can ohko Phoebe with the EX

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But yeah. You need buffs, debuffs and some good tanking

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Can also put in Agatha for sleep chaining so that you don't take much damage

keen jasper
swift swan
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Agatha can nuke good now! KukuiWOO

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Although I know Aurochs is seething for not being able to make agatha and fantina work this week CynthiaSmug

manic kiln
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I manage to clear Phoebe with f2p mono ghost team this week: Fantina Agatha and BP Morty, got lucky with RNG tho CynthiaSmug

dark osprey
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Agatha nuke is difficult with the sleep thing

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So it's either nuke or sleep

manic kiln
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i used Agatha for SB SophoKEK nuke is still Fantina, sleep mess with the rotation

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also couldn't keep both alive, Agatha always die first

mellow linden
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Unless you’re specifically trying to do a challenge run or something

manic kiln
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SophoKEK just flinch, didn't use sleep. agatha mostly for sp def debuff because fantina need a few turns to buff herself

sacred mountain
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Honestly i should 7.5k and call it a day

mellow linden
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No shame in that if you wanna do it. The difference between 7.5k and 10k in terms of rewards is basically nonexistent

toxic cobalt
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yeah we can help, but no stress if you want to just hit 7.5! That used to be the max!

void wyvern
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Aurchos are you still accepting Hapu clears?

sacred mountain
full mesa
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Don't worry. You'll do it in Johto.

warped thunder
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I wanted to battle glacia, any team suggestions?
Here are my 5 star pairs

mellow linden
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Hard Mode or Master Mode?

warped thunder
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Hard

mellow linden
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1st off, go get your Silver’s EX and Power boost.

But Blaine + Anniversary N or SS Red + a Sp. Atk. Support should beat Glacia without too much issue on Hard Mode

warped thunder
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But tysm

mellow linden
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Prioritize the Power Boost then

sinful garden
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ok nvm they end on the 1st so unless you got a good amount of stamina ready i dont think you'll be able to get both

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prioritize the boost then

warped thunder
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I don't think I can get the boost either

manic kiln
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it's not a bad idea to use some gems for stamina refill

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40 gems for 200 stamina iirc

warped thunder
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But anyways I was able to win

sinful garden
manic kiln
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yeah 100, haven't used that since the ranking event, but spending like 2 single pulls worth of gem for 1500 stamina to finish the event is not bad

austere fable
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This is all I have for fairies, but they don’t do anything, I heard both as Wally and bede are phenomenal but I’ve only gotten big hits once or twice

mellow linden
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Try using a different Sp. Atk./crit Support, for 2 main reasons:

  • Sycamore and SS Wally fight for Sync.

  • The team doesn't need to be monotype, and in many cases a team will perform far better by not going monotype. As a corollary, a Support's type almost always doesn't matter since their goal is not to deal damage.

austere fable
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Fair, I’m just trying to make sycamore useful since everyone and their mother talks about how good he is lol

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He’s always getting 1 shot despite being gridded lv140

abstract folio
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Any tips for round 4 Phoebe? She destroys with 1st sync

austere fable
mellow linden
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He is quite good, but due to how he works SS Wally is one of the few special damage-dealers he doesn't work that well with

mellow linden
abstract folio
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Tried to stall with poison

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Both on master mode

mellow linden
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A. Lillie should be enough on her own with a good team, though I do question what Champ Calem accomplishes on that team

abstract folio
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I don't know what to team up with lillie

mellow linden
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Since she handles her offensive buffs in 1 turn the main things she wants are gauge support and someone to tank. Is Skyla still available?

abstract folio
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Yes I have skyla

mellow linden
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Can use Skyla for one of the teammates, and since you're doing round 4 you could try Ghetsis as the 3rd teammate to take advantage of his debuffs, or just take the simpler route of a Sp. Def. buffer like Misty, Liza, etc.

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You might be able to try Fantina as the 3rd teammate as well if you find damage is lacking (you shouldn't, but if you do she's an option), though idk if Skyla would still work as the Support in that case

abstract folio
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I ll give it a try with Skyla, Lill and ghetsis

mellow linden
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Just make sure to replace No Stat Reductions with something else then

stray sentinel
mellow linden
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Champ Serena should be an easy off-type if you're not planning to use her elsewhere

austere fable
#

Is rebuff doubled on stage four?

mellow linden
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Just bring a tank and a Rain setter

mellow linden
austere fable
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I was hopeful XD

mellow linden
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As great as it would be, it's sadly not the case

manic dust
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I'm at a point in the game (picked it back up two weeks ago) where I feel like I need to be grinding the Champion Stadium. I got through two last week, but this week I've only beaten Sidney using SS Red, SS Blue, and CCalem. I feel like I am sorta bad at building teams (I'm still learning). Not sure who to invest in or try to use for the others.

stray sentinel
mellow linden
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No Winona?

stray sentinel
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Wait

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I do actually but no investment

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is she worth leveling in general?

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and who would you tank with from my selection?

mellow linden
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She's fairly good, yeah. Sets Rain and can flinch

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For tank, work on Skyla and she should work fairly well, with BP Morty or Misty as alternatives. Btw, is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?

stray sentinel
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hard mode

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havent beat one yet

mellow linden
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Oh. Yeah, Skyla then, easily

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She's an amazing Tank

stray sentinel
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fairy weak sidneyy I think

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What I ran originally but didn’t work

mellow linden
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A. Lillie is weak to Dark, so it makes sense

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For future reference, teams don't have to be monotype, and in many cases a multi-type team will perform much better

stray sentinel
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so greninja, skyla, and winona

frosty axle
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looks like they going for medals

stray sentinel
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Yeah I figured but it was what got me the farthest so far

mellow linden
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Yeah, alternative options could be Jasmine for tank

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If you want to fill out the type medal more

stray sentinel
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Dont even know what medal pieces are yet

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I just want the best tank I can use in my roster honestly.

lunar meadow
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I think the big risk is Sidney setting dark zone.

If you have Altaria or Staraptor (defog), or any other zone setters to overwrite his dark zone, that would be good

stray sentinel
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Someone I wont regret investing in

lunar meadow
mellow linden
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Basically try to make sure you've used Sync Pairs of 9-12 different types across your 5 battles

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A Support you'd regret investing in is rare, yeah

lunar meadow
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I have 38 EX supports, and frequently use my Non-EX ones as well

stray sentinel
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oh ok

frosty axle
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Even Stoutland has it's uses

stray sentinel
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Then lets say one of the best tanks, skyla?

mellow linden
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Skyla's a good one, yeah

lunar meadow
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Skyla and Zamazenta are incredible free tanks, against physically offensive enemies

mellow linden
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Jasmine is another good one

stray sentinel
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I do have zamazenta ...

frosty axle
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Yes they are my two Favorites for F2P

stray sentinel
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For fighting this dark dude, whats the best tank of those lol

lunar meadow
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Jasmine is definitely a tier or two lower.

Doesn't buff crit or speed, no healing on demand.

But ya, Steelix is still a good unit. I mainly used mine for sandstorm teams as a tank.

mellow linden
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Only one I'd recommend against is Hop, really, and that's only because his Attack and crit buffs would be wasted

stray sentinel
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ill try champ serena, winona, and skyla

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I have enough to get one 3 star character to 4 stars, torn between skyla and winona.

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leaning towards skyla from what you all have said

mellow linden
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Skyla is probably better, yeah

stray sentinel
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is it ok to use genera 3 star boosters or is there a smarter way to do it

mellow linden
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The generic powerups are fine, you'll get loads sooner or later

stray sentinel
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nice

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got about the same. is there a certain strategy or just raindance watershuriken

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the mega absol whoops me

mellow linden
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Sidney shouldn’t last very long after his Sync. Are you triple queueing?

abstract folio
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@mellow linden ghetsis lIlie and Skyla worked. Thank you very much

mellow linden
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Congrats!

stray sentinel
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triple que?

mellow linden
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How many of your team members are acting before every enemy action?

zealous karma
#

Can any of these 3K Phoebe lilblurry

stray sentinel
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2/3

mellow linden
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All 3 of them should be acting before every enemy action

zealous karma
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They should all always be acting 3 times

stray sentinel
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hmm ill try again

mellow linden
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That way you can, at worst, Sync a 2nd time almost immediately after your opponent’s 1st Sync

zealous karma
stray sentinel
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does it matter if i target murkrow or hydreigon first?

mellow linden
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With Champ Serena’s Buddy Move you can easily Sync twice before Sidney can even Sync once

mellow linden
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That way he can’t use his Sync move and buff the whole team’s damage by 50%

zealous karma
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Maybe she can 3K off type

stray sentinel
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hmm

zealous karma
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At 1/5

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Omg ty for the idea

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Free stage

mellow linden
zealous karma
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Really HilbertHmm

mellow linden
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Maybe Allister

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Oh, wait, Fantina’s there

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So probably her as the most likely candidate then, but I’m not sure if 3k on-type is possible without Ghost Zone or Ghost Rebuff

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I haven’t bothered checking challenge run stuff like that

zealous karma
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I have neither of those lilblurry

civic trellis
stray sentinel
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So i killed absol first then the other two started using crazier moves 😦

zealous karma
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I forgot what Sidney’s sides have

mellow linden
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By that point you should be able to come close to one-shotting them with Water Shuriken

civic trellis
zealous karma
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If she has rain she can one shot

mellow linden
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Alternatively you can grab Winona’s Air Slash Aggravation tile from her Sync Grid and try to flinch them to stop their attacks

zealous karma
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Does not look the most doable ever

stray sentinel
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oh so rain dance one to start and then once when absol is dead /dying

civic trellis
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U should also be syncing w wally to activate his b move and bcz they have aoe debuff moves they’ll do alot of dmg + bede’s gmax smite does decent damage

mellow linden
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That way it’ll stay up long enough after Champ Serena’s Sync to Boost at least 2 Water Shurikens

stray sentinel
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ok

zealous karma
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Yikes

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Phoebe

stray sentinel
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hmm something isnt working. I need to max them more

zealous karma
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Hits like a freight train

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No freight trains hit softer than ehr

civic trellis
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Phoebe was prob the hardest for me

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Took me forever to beat her (ssrc - bp morty - aaron)

mellow linden
civic trellis
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Wally cyrus and giovanni made the other 3 ez, glacia I off typed w sssteven

stray sentinel
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i can try

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omg miracle

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ill post vis lol

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I made it by the skin of my teeth

mellow linden
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Congrats!

stray sentinel
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TYYYY!

zealous karma
#

Phoebe with the ghost zone the horror

zealous karma
#

If I did this round 3 she might’ve gotten it

zealous karma
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Actually

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If I used

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Jasmine Amph for this on round 3 she would’ve gotten it

manic dust
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Okay so, I was able to beat Sidney and now Phoebe, but Drake and Glacia are really handing it to me. Drake I can get down to Kingdra but I just can't seem to finish the job. Any advice is welcome!

long thicket
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I'm getting sick of this mode, not gonna lie.

zealous karma
manic dust
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I do!

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Silver is EX and 135 and Cyrus is 135 not EXed

zealous karma
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For Glacia i recommend silver Skyla/Roxanne Blaine

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Do you have silvers expanded grid?

manic dust
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Yeah, I just got Silver's expanded grid.

Skyla and Blaine are both only at 4*. I haven't gotten enough power ups to get them to 5. Is that okay? Roxanne might still be 3...

zealous karma
#

That should work

manic dust
#

Sweet!

severe granite
#

what are some recommended pairs for challenging Glacia with? So far the three I've had the most luck with are SS Hilda, SS Red and SS Blue. I've managed to get the other two mons down, but it's just the froslass that gives me trouble with its sync moves. Any advice?

mellow linden
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SS Hilda + a tank + a Sun setter should easily win. Focus down the center 1st so that Glacia can't Sync and boost the whole team's damage by 50%

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Make sure all 3 of your team members are acting before every enemy action, AKA triple queueing

severe granite
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Is SS Blue a good enough tank?

mellow linden
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He works well, yeah. Evelyn, BP Morty, BP Clemont, Misty, probably even Liza will work as well

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The tank doesn't need to be that bulky since SS Hilda does stupid amounts of damage. If you're on Hard Mode then doubly so

severe granite
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Ah ok gotcha

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Thanks for the help

mellow linden
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No problem

sacred mountain
#

How good is 3/5 Sonia for tanking Hilda

manic mica
#

I’m trying to take on Sidney and Phoebe, but dont know a good team for either of them

mellow linden
sacred mountain
mellow linden
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Ah. She works great then

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Slap a Sun setter as the 3rd teammate and you're good to go. I used to use that team for Fire weak stuff until I got SS Hilda

toxic cobalt
sacred mountain
#

Does poison stall still work?

mellow linden
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I don't really see any reason why it wouldn't, just be aware of Thunder Wave

manic mica
swift swan
#

what's the team comp?

manic mica
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Giovanni, Morty(Drifblim), and SS Blue

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Should i use something else instead?

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Yeah nvm using Sonia worked instead

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Now i just need a team for Sidney

swift swan
#

Giovanni would lack quick special attack buffs in your first team comp

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also if you were using Morty's phantom force, it'd mess with your sync countdown

manic mica
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But the ones suggested by the pinned message isn’t very good for me since i either dont have some of the pairs or cant use their grids properly because im out of orbs

swift swan
manic mica
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Ok so

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Should i use SS Steven?

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Or should i save him for Steven?

swift swan
#

sure

manic mica
#

“I used the steven to defeat the steven”

swift swan
swift swan
manic mica
#

Not a lot

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Ok hear me out

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The fourth round effect is the “stat lowering” one

swift swan
manic mica
#

So why don’t i use Lucian for it?

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Thats his whole gimmick

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And Absol’s a physical attacker!!

swift swan
#

well sure... I just don't know if a 1/5 EX can nuke him presync

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oh wait, it's hard mode anyway

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hmm yeah, worth a try I suppose

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just be careful with that thunder wave

manic mica
#

Ill see how it goes!

manic mica
swift swan
#

right before sync, Sidney will use thunder wave to paralyze all 3 of your pairs

mellow linden
#

Just use SS Steven and bring Naomi to the Steven fight

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Naomi will murder Steven

manic mica
swift swan
#

Naomi + Courtney will murder steven

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plus it's hard mode

manic mica
#

Oh

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Courtney doesnt have any grid upgrades and im out of orbs

mellow linden
#

Naomi’s pretty darn great, yeah. And since it’s Hard Mode the murder she can commit is even more assured

manic mica
#

That wont harm my chances, will it?

swift swan
#

you just want courtney for the zone

mellow linden
#

Coutney doesn’t need grid

manic mica
#

So use this?

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And then go for Naomi, Courtney, and basic healer for Steven?

swift swan
#

I'm thinking of Bertha tanking, since she can lower attack under sandstorm

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but maybe it'd be too heavy on gauge

swift swan
mellow linden
#

Could even just use Naomi/Bertha/SS Elesa for Steven

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Since it’s just Hard Mode there should be no issue

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Or Acerola instead of Bertha

swift swan
#

I'm thinking Naomi/Acerola/good tank since Steven has high offenses

manic mica
#

Which one should i use??

swift swan
#

if you're using Naomi, then probably the special attack one is your best bet

manic mica
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Ok 👍

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Ok. So this should work, right?

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NAOMI CHILL

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SHE SLAUGHTERED

swift swan
#

of course she did

manic mica
#

I mean,, she IS level 150, 5/5, with an overkill sync grid

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Maybe Naomi should be the new meta instead of Ash

swift swan
#

based take

spring fable
#

afternoon Nov

warped jungle
#

Team Building suggestion please

toxic cobalt
#

Pick a striker for each battle and we can suggest around those

warped jungle
#

These what I got

warped jungle
#

I think I should use Shared for some off type team...

warped jungle
formal vigil
#

Fantina is good for ghost there is also shadow ball mewtwo

warped jungle
#

Oh right, Mewtwo for ghost works too.

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What about Steven??

full mesa
warped jungle
#

Okay

formal vigil
#

Which Steven?

warped jungle
#

I meant the one I've to fight

toxic cobalt
#

Steven can be done last

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At least

toxic cobalt
warped jungle
#

Oh wait I got Zygarde for dragon too.

toxic cobalt
#

Easy*

warped jungle
toxic cobalt
#

Why not use Zygarde for ground?

warped jungle
#

Yeah i forgot about Zygarde PrycePain

toxic cobalt
#

Well that sets you up well!

warped jungle
#

Sycamore works for Fairy??

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Cool now I can hopefully do 15/18 types in a day.

hot shadow
toxic cobalt
#

Out of those. sSR Zygarde and Palkia can actually set themselves up

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Gio will need spatk and Sycamore will need crit

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So the fun game is now slotting as many types in as we can

warped jungle
#

Should I use Ash for fire or use Silver instead? Silver can aoe sync. But SSRed OP af and got sync nuke grid

toxic cobalt
#

Rosa an obvious option for Giovanni, especially as she is EX

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Both are fine, pick whichever

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You can set up five preset teams to see what types you have at a glance

warped jungle
#

Yup yup doing that rn.

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Trying to fill in Random stuff

toxic cobalt
#

Sure just make sure you give Giovanni spatk and sycamore crit…

warped jungle
#

Okay

full mesa
#

•Mewtwo/Rosa/Sonia (Psychic/Grass/Elec) -> Ghost week.
•Silver/SSBlue/Roxanne (Fire/Water/Rock) -> Fire week.
•Sycamore/Hop/Sabrina (Fairy/Steel) -> Fairy week.
•Cyrus/Skyla/Aaron (Flying/Bug) -> Dragon Week
•Serena/CRed/Hapu (Dragon/Normal/Ground) -> Steven

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13 types.

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Feel free to change anything you don't like.

warped jungle
swift swan
#

While you're free to ask for help in this channel, we do encourage trying to build teams yourself. Good exercise

swift swan
swift swan
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Potions, buffs crit so Giovanni doesn't have to do it himself, buffs defense in case you get hit by physical AOEs (iirc the stage has earthquake)

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And just has good gauge management in general

warped jungle
#

Damn, that Aaron dude heals so much

full mesa
warped jungle
#

Why Cyrus, Skyla, Aaron?? Ain't there way too many heals??

full mesa
#

Aaron is there for def/spdef boosts. Also you don't change weather meaning it'll be a longer fight.

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And Cyrus loses 50% max hp in order to build himself.

warped jungle
#

Since my Aaron lvl1, should I upgrade or just go with lvl 1. Since Skyla will be tanking.

swift swan
#

At least 100

warped jungle
#

Okay

swift swan
#

120 is ideal, but if you don't have enough mats, 100 should be ok

full mesa
#

Everything should be around 100/120 for hard mode - 4.2kMM

swift swan
#

Hmmm personally I would change Aaron with Viola

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Because drake wants status change to deactivate acute senses

onyx ice
warped jungle
#

What's acute senses??

onyx ice
#

Level ups are pretty cheap, there should be no problem getting an unti at least to lv100

swift swan
#

Check pins

onyx ice
warped jungle
#

Gah damn

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Sooo Viola??

keen jasper
warped jungle
#

Who's Viola? PrycePain

#

Which Pokemon she got?

keen jasper
warped jungle
#

Okay

onyx ice
#

Rebuff, restrain, telekinesis works too

warped jungle
swift swan
#

Yeah, give that a try

warped jungle
#

Okay

onyx ice
#

Who had acute sense?

swift swan
#

The stage is mostly physical so defense buffs from skyla should be enough

onyx ice
#

Didn't even noticed he had acute sense

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Ah yes 1st run was with Zerena, so no acute sense

void wyvern
#

You need to use all 18 types at some point to get more rewards and MM.

#

Hapu covers ground.

full mesa
#

Not every unit has a role. Some are just there as fillers.

warped jungle
#

Bro died from being trapped and wasn't able to use sync move WEEZing

#

Wide guard works with aoe sync moves??

toxic cobalt
warped jungle
#

Uhhhh fire team kinda weak... Everyone died, no healer in team...

void wyvern
#

Silver?

toxic cobalt
#

What is the team?

warped jungle
#

Silver, SSBlue, Roxanne

#

I'll try once with SSRed, if still doens't work I might need to switch out Roxanne

full mesa
#

Try, SSBlue/Bald Scientist/Silver. Use sun on round 2 and sync with Silver under sun.

warped jungle
#

Okay

warped jungle
#

He got potions too

full mesa
#

Yeah. You can use SSMorty. Just keep in mind that you'll have 12 units into hall of fame instead of 13. If you switch out Roxane.

warped jungle
#

My Blue doesn't heal WhitneySad

#

That 30% doesn't proc

full mesa
#

You don't need heal. You need to brute force her. Quadqueue and kill her by the second sync.

full mesa
#

Also Roxanne has wide guard. Can stop at least one aoe

warped jungle
#

Yeah I'll try a couple more times.

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I won the dragon one coz I somehow managed to quad qued

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Oof Endure saved me xD

#

Charizard one shotted the side hoes

full mesa
#

That works too.

#

Onto the next one.

warped jungle
#

Yeeaup

#

This grid fine?

#

Just fairy moves. No other bs RoxanneThis

full mesa
#

Just copy one from #1009587872342478908 for moonblast.

warped jungle
#

Who do I sync in this team?? Sabrina, Sycamore, Hop

#

Okay so sycamore, then Sabrina, and then hop??

dark osprey
#

Is Sabrina EX?

#

i guess that is fine

swift swan
#

Sycamore first. The 2nd one depends on whether sabrina is EXd or not

warped jungle
#

Nah she ain't ex

#

Well it's done, it was ezier than the other two.

toxic cobalt
#

Sycamore strong

warped jungle
#

Yeah, he did waaay more damage than I thought. Almost 6k per moon blast.

swift swan
#

Fairy power 5 go brrr

warped jungle
#

Okay so Gio/Mewtwo, Rosa, who syncs first? Rosa?? Both are EX

swift swan
#

Imagine if for his grid expansion they gave him more OaR tiles and Overpower hyperthinkbutfast

toxic cobalt
#

Rosa

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Gio sync is great for psychic weak but since it's ghost weak Rosa

warped jungle
#

Okay

#

Sooo Mewtwo gets ohkoed from the sync move everytime. Unable to kill it before it uses the sync move. Been 4 tries already.

swift swan
#

Ah, you really don't want Phoebe to sync, ideally

warped jungle
#

Yeah that's what I'm trying

#

She always survive with just a sliver or its ho left

swift swan
#

Hmmm sonia makes it hard to quadqueue too HilbertHmm

#

What's your giovanni grid?

toxic cobalt
#

Are you buffing spatk with Rosa and crit with gio?

toxic cobalt
warped jungle
warped jungle
toxic cobalt
#

Crit should be twice

warped jungle
#

Mewtwo lvl is 114, that's the problem?

warped jungle
#

So close

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Oh god.

full mesa
#

On +0 crit moves have around 12% to crit and sync moves 0%. On +3 crit moves have 100% to crit and sync moves have 80%.

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Try tanking with Rosa and keep her alive with Sonia. That way you'll probably be able to quadqueue.

#

Fish for potion mpr through her grid.

warped jungle
#

I am using potion mpr WhitneySad

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Okay I'll try again

full mesa
#

Like 2-3 mprs. You'll need around 5/6 potions to pull it off. It's RNG but it's a decent chance.

warped jungle
#

30% isn't a decent chance

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She's 2/5 so the other mpr is still locked.

#

Ayooo done!!!

#

Can I change these if I don't like any of these?

trail smelt
#

… oh wait you mean back out?

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Yeah if you fought the champ and didn’t like what you picked you can quit and fight him again and you Can choose something else

warped jungle
#

Okay

full mesa
#

Zerena usually doesn't need a specific field effect. Probably the first is the best.

warped jungle
#

Okay. Thanks. Done AshGoodGrief

full mesa
#

GJ mate.

warped jungle
#

Time to go sleep

#

Thanks for everyone who helped

swift swan
#

well done!

void wyvern
#

Congrats on doing a great job!

reef raptor
#

okay guys

#

my first time doing hoenn stadium

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also

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never completed stadium because i suck at the game

#

send help

keen jasper
#

Then it's off to Johto

reef raptor
#

yes im gonna grind

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🐈

keen jasper
reef raptor
#

no idea what that is

keen jasper
#

It varies for each region

reef raptor
#

eh

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I dont want master mode

#

master mode scares me

swift swan
#

then you can just take it slow with Hoenn and beat it with 5 good teams without having to worry about the medal

swift swan
sand karma
#

Support?

reef raptor
#

I don't have dragon sync pairs

sand karma
#

Cyrus?

reef raptor
#

imean yeah

#

but like

sand karma
#

He's perfectly good

reef raptor
#

cmon anni may and ss steven are a menacing team

sand karma
reef raptor
#

true

void wyvern
#

Drake agrees, after his sync kills you.

reef raptor
#

the bulk

#

or my almost 6ex leaf

#

🐈

manic mica
#

I need help for the phoebe fight

swift swan
#

That team looks fine to me HilbertHmm or maybe you'll want faster sp def debuffs

swift swan
#

That way you can use your overkill psychic team against a stage that you're actually struggling with

swift swan
formal vigil
#

Do you have Lucian?

manic mica
#

No

swift swan
#

Did you grid elio with mind games on sparkling aria?

swift swan
#

Oh yeah, what round is that

void wyvern
#

What Fantina grid are you running?

manic mica
manic mica
swift swan
#

So the problem is just not enough damage?

manic mica
#

Yeah

void wyvern
#

If damage is the issue do a blue adrenaline sync into Fantina’s sync.

manic mica
#

Oh and also

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Fantina dies after the 1st sync

void wyvern
#

Gives you more time to set up sp def debuffs and such.

manic mica
void wyvern
#

Let me do a test or two

manic mica
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Ok thanks

void wyvern
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Alright actually show me the Fantina grid.

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and blue’s

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Just need to cover our bases

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I ask because Fantina second sync wipes them out for me.

manic mica
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there is 9 remaining energy for fantina because im out of sync orb rn

void wyvern
# manic mica

Your Fantina grid doesn’t have smarty pants which is the issue.

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Blue grid will do

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You can give up the top left sync tiles if you lack the orbs

swift swan
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Hi I'm back from doing test runs and failing

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Because fantina failed to crit on her sync

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4 times

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4 times PrycePain

manic mica
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So i tried again

toxic cobalt
manic mica
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And

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i still failed

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She killed both sides but did not do that much on mid

toxic cobalt
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Why aren't we using Giovanni?

manic mica
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because i prefer fantina

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Simply

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and i want to challenge myself

void wyvern
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How much damage did your sync do?

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Don’t need the exact number just estimate

mellow linden
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Fantina should be doing pretty good anyways, the issue is that she can potentially fail to crit Sync

void wyvern
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Fantina worked perfectly fine 1st try in testing on 2nd sync and first sync.

swift swan
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ALRIGHT I DID IT

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0/20 fantina

void wyvern
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November, you’re crazy.

manic mica
void wyvern
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On second sync?

manic mica
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Yes after blue sync

void wyvern
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Alright I’m 99% sure setup isn’t right because I got 40k

mellow linden
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Sounds like failure to crit

manic mica
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Yeah she didnt crit

mellow linden
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That would do it, yeah

void wyvern
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Bad luck then. Give it another try.

mellow linden
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Unfortunately Syncs have (unless otherwise stated) an innate -1 to crit rate, so at +3 it's only an 80% chance

swift swan
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Let me screenshot the grids I used

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I also changed my parameters

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Video might take a while because discord max file limit shenanigans

void wyvern
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Even with nitro?

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Discooooooord

swift swan
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Yeah, max is 100 mb, i'm compressing my video

manic mica
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She critted this time i think. Did 14k to mid

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I changed my parameter a little bit

void wyvern
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We aren’t debuffing their special defence which is why the sync isn’t doing very much.

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You don’t have pal dawn or ss hilbert by chance?

manic mica
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I have ss hilbert

swift swan
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Phoebe has wise entry 2. +2 sp def on entry, that's kinda annoying

void wyvern
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Swap out elio for him.

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Mash metal sound

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Make sure you use Fantina’s tm before sync

pine spruce
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Can't ontype this..

void wyvern
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Show your ground type sync pairs please

pine spruce
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I only have 4

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Namely Bertha, Courtney, Clay and Hapu

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And Courtney is the only one leveled up

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Cause fuck books and bottles, I always lack them PrycePain

void wyvern
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Courtney will do fine, even at move level 1 without ex

swift swan
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I used different params from pins (I always do lol)

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Had to give phoebe as little bulk as I dare

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So this was an RNG fest.. pray Phoebe doesn't use shadow ball too often

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A shadow ball can take out more than half of blue's HP

void wyvern
manic mica
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Thanks everyone

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I managed to do it

void wyvern
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@pine spruce run hop, Courtney, and someone else to buff Atk/def.

manic mica
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doing it with a fav unit feels way more rewarding

swift swan
void wyvern
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Better in r1 so we weren’t getting possibly inflated numbers

swift swan
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Devs, when will you give us the option to do a no-rewards run just to test round parameters whenever we want

pine spruce
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hop, courtney and a physical striker...

swift swan
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At least after we finish master mode for that week

pine spruce
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SSRed would be a bad option lmao

void wyvern
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At least for this

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Don’t get me started on the wild idea called hunter’s instinct Courtney

pine spruce
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so I guess running two supports will do well as normal?

toxic cobalt