#Champion Stadium
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I prefer using Lillie and Comfey instead of Xerneas but I guess you wanted tm
Not bad considering that Silver only has +3 speed
No, this team just isn't working out
Not only is Fantina unable to survive more than 3 AOE attacks, Roxanne is bad at tanking Shadow Ball as well
Well yeah that's the thing with Phoebe. Hits too damn hard and Roxanne's not bulky enough
You can use wide guard to prevent AOEs but you need to time it well or else it will ruin your queue
Did you get to sync with cynthia at least? And how much damage did she do
Sometimes CS runs can be RNG reliant, nothing much I can say 
I did, although I forgot how much damage
Is ss blue available?
If he's EXd and 2/5, you can sync with him for support EX and endurance (grid him with adrenaline)
Then 2nd sync goes to cynthia, which should be able to wipe out mid even at 2/5
6k damage with Ghost Zone buff
did she crit? She should do way more I think
Also, is this presync or postsync params
Presync, but I replaced "No Stat Reduction" with "Max HP ^2"
I ended up removing "Max HP ^2" entirely, and I was able to win...thankfully, I only need 9500 points in total
Ah, it's probably better to pick up strength 1
Which I should be able to get with a full 2000 points again
Gives much less HP than HP 2 and the extra attack and defense barely matters
Anyway, R2 or R4 gimmick for Steven?
Hold on
What pairs are you going to use?
Now kaboom goes the Wally
With only -5 Sp. Def.
Wish Sidney did Close Combat for an extra Sp. Def. drop
A team that has regular Cynthia as the nuke...I could use SS Blue for the R2 gimmick since he is EX'd
What about a sandstorm setter?
For Cynthia's multipliers?
I have Acerola and an unbuilt Bertha since I already used up Flyhan
Good enough
How many points?
9900 points
Damn, this new damage is da goat
the new damage display is not very goated, though
Wish she had EX
He doesn't have Lillie and Comfey, so I wanted to demonstrate that fairy weak is very easy even with accessible units.
oh ok I usually go Hop and Xerneas then with Mina
should be fine too, yeah
I just used offtype against fairy weak, i wanted to clear with -2 sync without having to deal with thunder weave
Hmmm, next week we have rock-weak, fairy-weak, ghost-weak, water-weak and fire-weak
Rock weak can't be SS Diantha because she'll be released after that
Fairy weak is for NY Lisia
Ghost weak is for NY Dawn and/or Anni Lillie
Fire weak is for Anni N
Water weak is for Cerena
I'm guessing fairy and what else?
Don't worry to much about not having op on type units
Ghost if I dont get Lilie, Rock,
This is Johto
Things like gen pools character should be doable for 10K
Yeah, Johto CS
I have water but my fire is eh i have SS Red but he is onyl 2/5
Even Valerie can carry you against fairy-weak Bruno
Silver?
also i dont have its CsMm unlocked yet so i guess ill wait for the next next week to unlock it
oh yah i can use silver
The transition from Hoenn CS to Johto CS is like you lifting 500 pounds of weight and then you suddenly carry 50 pounds
I know Like it was Kanto i think then became sinnoh then hoenn
Like on Kanto i did my first 10k then at sinnoh and hoenn I only managed to do 9ks or 8k
The shift from Kanto to two of the more difficult league feels like a whiplash ngl
I wonder what Kalos CS will be like
Is Alola and Unova CS Hard? i never tried them before
back then i ignore cs because i lack pairs
Hmm not really imo
easier than Hoenn and Sinnoh?
Sinnoh and Hoenn are probably the pinnacle of CS
Fluid fortifications Diantha returns 
That’s so expensive for silver
maybe thats what cerena is made for
preparation for fluid fortification Diantha
I'm gonna so overkill the shit outta Lance next week with Cerena
She'll probably deal like over halfway to the new damage cap
new damage cap?
Yeah, new damage cap is 999,999 now
Oh damn
They need to adjust the positioning of it a lil tho 
it's just display cap, you could deal as much damage before too
It's her EBE gimmick when it was around so yeah
Nerf it a lil tho like idk remove the sentry entry x2
Except now, all unit have an equal chance against her
yeah i was there i was happy when I beat her with just SST red debuffs but the next day i got Cerena lol
Wow some timing
Even without sentry entry she still gets buffs way too fast
Then fluid fortification kicks in
the buffs were from the sides right?
Ye
Yup
And also when she does Hail and when she sync
They increased like 2 types of buff for every move they do
Ah right that god i hated that
Both sides have Pep Rally, but Solrock has Shielded and Lunatone has Barricade Buddies
Not 100% F2P but this team mega-bullied the 2k round vs Pheobe. general strength + hp build for CSMM points
I just ran her as poison/ debuff . The accuracy debuff worked out well for the team. Pheobe was at -6 everything 
Finally, after a long long wait i am able to beat the champions league / elite 4 members for the first time
😱😱
Why have 2 people off typed dragon
Looking at these replay video things makes me feel way less like a whale cause wow

I mean it's the two frogs what were you expecting
I offtyped it too because I forgot Cyrus is a thing
Zerena exists…
yeah, while this is a neat feature, these successful teams are overrun with limited units, Greninjas and Zeus rodents

I suggested for them to allow us to press "generate replay" after a run that can be shared
would allow me to share runs, since I dont have good enough net to record
although the current feature is still buggy, some moves like Shadow Force can make the replay fail
My iPhone would save so much storage
oh my goodness yes please
the current common teams feature is kinda whack
what are some good modifiers for MM? It's my first time
hi! for your first time doing MM, it's recommended to do 850 points per round, which lands you at 4.2k total, which is where the good rewards stop. there are standard 850 parameters on pins!
thank you!
do keep in mind that you might need to tweak them to your team(s)' needs. as a general rule of thumb, Strength is a good replacement for those parameter options that you might need
Hoenn is overall a tough region and there are certain gimmicks you might need to adhere. I wrote summaries for each stage to know what to look out for
thanks! hope i can go 4.2k well enough since i just started last month
thank u! i love this community
he wants a change of weather so he hits less hard and status change so you can hit harder
hmmm i have enough for 1 more ex, whats a good number of supp exs in general?
if you're doing master mode, pick up the gradual healing parameter to deactivate his Acute Senses
What’s a good team for him this week then
is your silver EX, gridded and with power boost?
yes!
yes, just go all into the sync nuke
Same and I wouldn’t have to rely on going back to re-record stages
i shouldn't teach you an advanced strat first, but you basically want to kill her with your first sync with that strat
so you could even tank with Blaine
he can even die
how does that work? sun + boost everything then sync?
I know this is just me being lazy but I wish we didn't have to beat all E4 stages just so we can test a team vs the champion
make it a test run with absolutely no rewards pls
im assuming im gridding for max multipliers?
and take attack + sync cd for enemy parameters and not strength
so you can deal around 34k dmg with his sync to the middle
really depends on your roster. there are f2p clears available, I know TheGamingEevee does it a lot
do you have any other fire units to put as 3rd?
it can work even with just 2 units though
the difficulty jump might be surprising, since Glacia herself has high offenses in general
2 units are bit more annoying because you need to reset for Blaine to not die too fast
i have ss red
Does restrained count as an effect status
No
you could put SS Red in too then, to help finishing mid off if it survives with some low hp
Does he even have the gauge for it?
status change, yes
which is what Drake wants
to know what counts as a status change, go to Filter > Known Moves > Status Change section
SSR has good gauge management
oh no, nevermind, you should put a speed buffer too
MGR passive and just good speed in general
Silver might need that Inertia
https://youtu.be/T9iAeJkepik this might help you out
Today I want to show you how the Champion Stadium Master Mode Hoenn Challenge Week 4, Season 2 can be done for 10000 points with F2P sync pairs as long as they have been invested in with candies and orbs you should have no problem following this.
If you would like to see more videos like this click this link
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credits to eevee
he's running a normal team but yeah, Silver destroys on type with sun
this is what my strat would run
basically one shoot enemy with sync while barely not dying
you can remove ally hp at start and take str 3 instead, should still be within one shoot range, just gotta clear up sometimes by attacking once
the strat would require resetting so Glacia doesn't spam blizzard 
but yeah Silver should be able to clear it on first sync, or slightly after
sydney was annoying
had to offtype with ss n
i say 'had to offtype' when i dont really have any fairy strikers lmao
Mina can work for 850 points, but for 2k she needs a lot of support
mina
lillie
both set to 4*
Lillie also has SEUP guaranteed on her TM
that makes the fight very easy
worked fine?
didn't work the first few times
I don’t so idk how you’ll ever do an F2P guide
but then i realized i picked strength +6
took it out then everything went fine
mid survived though but an overheat finished it fine
I did blaine/silver/roxanne
rox for the speed boost
yeah, it's in that range where she might survive sometimes depending on luck
you have fire gear, right?
increases stats
what role does type specificity play? ie fire gear vs psychic gear
your type gets the full bonus, other types half of it
so fire gear for Silver is a big +60 atk
sync move type is the unit's type
so even if you use Hydro Pump with Palkia dragon gear boosts it
contrary to the dragon type theme skill that doesn't
also units that mega evolve or change forms multiply the stats added by gear and potential too, but not type theme skill ones or grid ones
stat buffs multiply everything mentioned here
there's SS Steven who has one of the highest damage in the game precisely because of gear
his form change raises stats x2, and gear becomes 120 instead
oh okay wow
i didn't know about that aspect of ss steven
always heard he was the worst of the current anni units
finally champion battle for my first master mode!
that's anni steven
anni steven and ss steven are like night and day lol
no worries, we have too many stevens
I wish after you beat them you could do a no rewards run against any of them with any round parameter. Save so much time.
I second that.
DeNa hire me, I will implement all of these people's wishes
can you implement a Wallace alt too
I'll be honest, logging in and seeing all of the op teams with auto replay is funny
You Want Fun?Wario Show You Fun 
hunters instinct Courtney is funny, change my mind,
Can someone help me make teams?
Who are you struggling against and what round?
Everyone 👍
Send ss of your roster. Also Hard mode or Master Mode?
MM
Give me a moment.
Phoebe: Fantina
Glacia: Silver
Drake: Lucas
Sidney: Anni Lillie
Steven: maxie
Wait Fatina actually became a unit?
You're not aware of her EX and expanded grid?
I reinstalled yesterday after Maxie rerun
R1: Fairy -> SSBlue/Sycamore/Anni Lillie
R2: Phoebe -> Roxanne/Skyla/Giovanni (Shadow Ball). Aim for pre-sync.
R3: Lucas/ZinniaMRay/weather changer
R4: Hilbert/Silver/Bald scientist
R5: Hop/Maxie/Lyra.
Well, Fantina is a very strong ghost type damage dealer now
With her expanded grid, she does more than Anni Lillie
Better than Shadow ball mew2?
Also you can Bianca/Lucian/SSteven-LuSSamine for off type.
I think so-ish
But I saw that Fantina's Shadow Ball is almost similar to Lillie's Moongeist Beam
Does this work without Silver Power ups?
Or do i go SSmay?
no it;s not
move level?
1/5
yeah it;s enough
I mean, Anni Lillie has higher BP sure, but I'm surprised it's almost comparable
the gap is still big tho
i assume Fantina can match Giovanni if you consider sync dmg now
except you have to ex her for sides...
Are we considering maximised damage or normal damage for this?
maximised
tho SEUN isnt accounted in Fantina's max damage
if it is accounted the gap will be shorter
she is better than Giovanni ontype
Try with silver. If fail, go SSMay.
And let's not forget she doesn't have move multipliers too
She has se up next, self special attack buffs, better spdef debuffs, Sinnoh (for renegade Cynthia)
Her setup takes too long
Better to bring a spdef debuffer beside her
Yes but topping up 2spa is easier than having to provide 6
If you go fantina DPS, you don't even need to bring a dedicated spdef debuffer
Yeah. Fantina has great sp defense drops
When those -2 sp defense drops trigger it's really satisfying
And the best part of relentless and smarty pants is the natural damage increase from defense drops
Yes, much better than stuffs like cackewalk, since speed debuffs are only useful for passives
Any round order? Been a while since ive done champion stadium
No round 3 Glacia or phoebe
If you have SSWally he makes good use of r 4sidney
R2 needs pre sync so choose it based on your units
If you're using Cyrus or any special dragons, r3 will be advantageous against drake
Drake is primarily physical.
I only did 5550 this week 
It was my first time doing master mode got to 5k
it's alright, Hoenn is admittedly difficult
You can most likely 10k the entire Johto though
players growing up with Sinnoh and Hoenn are built different 
You can do it!
People growing up with Kalos 
Put this tgt for next week 2k
Haven’t attempted 2k params before at all
Thank arceus they barely have any entries
i wanted to put someone with speed buff in bruno team but dont have any good ones
Sycamore buffs speed 
ig 
Sycamore Hop X will win any stage anyway I wouldn't worry about it
can't wait for their EXs 
These last 3 r prob the most exciting
The first 5 r good but sycamore/hop r supports and solgaleo is w mc
Critical crit 
more? you're putting too much expectations on me, aurochs
I've never done any sycamore solo 
will need to wait and see what his powerboost will be first
I'll even take critical squad 2
I have faith.

I'm out here trying to figure out how to make a 1/5 AnniLillie work against pheobe 😂
With speed support
Ohh.. 😮
On his TM?
yeah
I think sycamore will get sync burst and endurance from his power boost and maybe furious brain on moonblast
how about furious brain in general so his horn leech can take advantage of it too 
You underestimate dena
After Ghetsus power boost I’m going to be more skeptical about the stuff
how about more master healer tiles 
or TM Shielded
sycamore got an ex? huh
will be getting one soon
Lol I Gridded my cynthia/Garchomp for the last battle then forgot to put her on team 😂
Give him Horn leech CS2 just for the funne
And she also has multipliers too
Haymaker
even though she doesn't buff her attack too much
She does right? With unbreakable bonds?
she has Fierce Entry 1 too
Oh right, I missed that part of unbreakable bonds
Mainly because I don't have Phoebe 
But that just means her furious brawn only gets very deadly postsync
Phoebe will just pull out her TM and skyrocket her attack and put you in the microwave.
she uses her TM right before her sync. can't take advantage of those attack buffs when she's dead
That's why you bring SS Misty 
That's why you bring SS Korrina
Imagine not using brycen
U got me there
Imagine not using OG Grimsley
You’re right. I’m a fool.
Imagine not using Lear
Imagine not using Dawn
Sorry. My bad. Overlooked a few gems
I want to make a funny comment about Lodge Dawn and the Struggle Bug: On a Roll 4 but Phoebe buffs attack and not special attack, hah
She does use shadow ball
Ghost is overkill 
Johto is like an adult vs. baby
These looks solid
While Sinnoh and Hoenn is like adult vs. demigods
No it's more like Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
That's true
If you can deal with Sinnoh and Hoenn back to back without losing sanity then you can deal with the rest
I'm pretty sure I've seen a fantina clear 
Fantina with sp defense debuffs can ohko Phoebe with the EX
But yeah. You need buffs, debuffs and some good tanking
Can also put in Agatha for sleep chaining so that you don't take much damage
I did it with Fantina
Agatha can nuke good now! 
Although I know Aurochs is seething for not being able to make agatha and fantina work this week 
I manage to clear Phoebe with f2p mono ghost team this week: Fantina Agatha and BP Morty, got lucky with RNG tho 
i used Agatha for SB
nuke is still Fantina, sleep mess with the rotation
also couldn't keep both alive, Agatha always die first
Put May or Winona on the Champion team for Rain
Unless you’re specifically trying to do a challenge run or something
Ah sleep and flinch lock
just flinch, didn't use sleep. agatha mostly for sp def debuff because fantina need a few turns to buff herself
Honestly i should 7.5k and call it a day
No shame in that if you wanna do it. The difference between 7.5k and 10k in terms of rewards is basically nonexistent
yeah we can help, but no stress if you want to just hit 7.5! That used to be the max!
Aurchos are you still accepting Hapu clears?
Ik , I miss when 7.5 was max , no amount of help is saving this run , I've actually never got all 10k weeks in hoenn ;-;
Don't worry. You'll do it in Johto.
What team are you using?
I wanted to battle glacia, any team suggestions?
Here are my 5 star pairs
Hard Mode or Master Mode?
Hard
1st off, go get your Silver’s EX and Power boost.
But Blaine + Anniversary N or SS Red + a Sp. Atk. Support should beat Glacia without too much issue on Hard Mode
I don't think I have enough time to get silver ex
I took a long break from the game and I returned yesterday bc of anni N
But tysm
Prioritize the Power Boost then
its just a matter of wasting stamina on the stages
ok nvm they end on the 1st so unless you got a good amount of stamina ready i dont think you'll be able to get both
prioritize the boost then
I don't think I can get the boost either
But anyways I was able to win
gives you 100 per exchange
yeah 100, haven't used that since the ranking event, but spending like 2 single pulls worth of gem for 1500 stamina to finish the event is not bad
This is all I have for fairies, but they don’t do anything, I heard both as Wally and bede are phenomenal but I’ve only gotten big hits once or twice
Try using a different Sp. Atk./crit Support, for 2 main reasons:
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Sycamore and SS Wally fight for Sync.
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The team doesn't need to be monotype, and in many cases a team will perform far better by not going monotype. As a corollary, a Support's type almost always doesn't matter since their goal is not to deal damage.
Fair, I’m just trying to make sycamore useful since everyone and their mother talks about how good he is lol
He’s always getting 1 shot despite being gridded lv140
Any tips for round 4 Phoebe? She destroys with 1st sync
Who do you have?
He is quite good, but due to how he works SS Wally is one of the few special damage-dealers he doesn't work that well with
Hard Mode or Master Mode, what parameters if Master Mode, and what team(s) have you tried with thus far?
Ex lunala, fantina mismagius, and champion calem ex on presence on post sync
Tried to stall with poison
Both on master mode
A. Lillie should be enough on her own with a good team, though I do question what Champ Calem accomplishes on that team
I don't know what to team up with lillie
Since she handles her offensive buffs in 1 turn the main things she wants are gauge support and someone to tank. Is Skyla still available?
Yes I have skyla
Can use Skyla for one of the teammates, and since you're doing round 4 you could try Ghetsis as the 3rd teammate to take advantage of his debuffs, or just take the simpler route of a Sp. Def. buffer like Misty, Liza, etc.
You might be able to try Fantina as the 3rd teammate as well if you find damage is lacking (you shouldn't, but if you do she's an option), though idk if Skyla would still work as the Support in that case
I ll give it a try with Skyla, Lill and ghetsis
Just make sure to replace No Stat Reductions with something else then
Looking for help with fairy weak Sidney https://imgur.com/gallery/3ERafQR I am at a loss lol
Champ Serena should be an easy off-type if you're not planning to use her elsewhere
Is rebuff doubled on stage four?
Just bring a tank and a Rain setter
Type Rebuff is not a stat reduction, so no
I was hopeful XD
As great as it would be, it's sadly not the case
I'm at a point in the game (picked it back up two weeks ago) where I feel like I need to be grinding the Champion Stadium. I got through two last week, but this week I've only beaten Sidney using SS Red, SS Blue, and CCalem. I feel like I am sorta bad at building teams (I'm still learning). Not sure who to invest in or try to use for the others.
Dont have rain 😦
No Winona?
Wait
I do actually but no investment
is she worth leveling in general?
and who would you tank with from my selection?
She's fairly good, yeah. Sets Rain and can flinch
For tank, work on Skyla and she should work fairly well, with BP Morty or Misty as alternatives. Btw, is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?
A. Lillie is weak to Dark, so it makes sense
For future reference, teams don't have to be monotype, and in many cases a multi-type team will perform much better
so greninja, skyla, and winona
looks like they going for medals
Yeah I figured but it was what got me the farthest so far
Yeah, alternative options could be Jasmine for tank
If you want to fill out the type medal more
Dont even know what medal pieces are yet
I just want the best tank I can use in my roster honestly.
I think the big risk is Sidney setting dark zone.
If you have Altaria or Staraptor (defog), or any other zone setters to overwrite his dark zone, that would be good
Someone I wont regret investing in
Any support except Stoutland is worth investing in!
Basically try to make sure you've used Sync Pairs of 9-12 different types across your 5 battles
A Support you'd regret investing in is rare, yeah
I have 38 EX supports, and frequently use my Non-EX ones as well
oh ok
Even Stoutland has it's uses
Then lets say one of the best tanks, skyla?
Skyla's a good one, yeah
Skyla and Zamazenta are incredible free tanks, against physically offensive enemies
Jasmine is another good one
I do have zamazenta ...
Yes they are my two Favorites for F2P
For fighting this dark dude, whats the best tank of those lol
Jasmine is definitely a tier or two lower.
Doesn't buff crit or speed, no healing on demand.
But ya, Steelix is still a good unit. I mainly used mine for sandstorm teams as a tank.
Only one I'd recommend against is Hop, really, and that's only because his Attack and crit buffs would be wasted
ill try champ serena, winona, and skyla
I have enough to get one 3 star character to 4 stars, torn between skyla and winona.
leaning towards skyla from what you all have said
Skyla is probably better, yeah
is it ok to use genera 3 star boosters or is there a smarter way to do it
The generic powerups are fine, you'll get loads sooner or later
nice
got about the same. is there a certain strategy or just raindance watershuriken
the mega absol whoops me
Sidney shouldn’t last very long after his Sync. Are you triple queueing?
@mellow linden ghetsis lIlie and Skyla worked. Thank you very much
Congrats!
triple que?
How many of your team members are acting before every enemy action?
Can any of these 3K Phoebe 
2/3
All 3 of them should be acting before every enemy action
They should all always be acting 3 times
hmm ill try again
That way you can, at worst, Sync a 2nd time almost immediately after your opponent’s 1st Sync
This is triple queueing
does it matter if i target murkrow or hydreigon first?
With Champ Serena’s Buddy Move you can easily Sync twice before Sidney can even Sync once
Target Absol 1st
That way he can’t use his Sync move and buff the whole team’s damage by 50%
I do still have her maybe idk
Maybe she can 3K off type
hmm
Regarding this, Helena is probably the best bet at 3k
Really 
Maybe Allister
Oh, wait, Fantina’s there
So probably her as the most likely candidate then, but I’m not sure if 3k on-type is possible without Ghost Zone or Ghost Rebuff
I haven’t bothered checking challenge run stuff like that
I have neither of those 
Personally I dont use sycamore with diantha wally and bede
So i killed absol first then the other two started using crazier moves 😦
I forgot what Sidney’s sides have
By that point you should be able to come close to one-shotting them with Water Shuriken
I use skyla cuz she’s tanky and heals

If she has rain she can one shot
Alternatively you can grab Winona’s Air Slash Aggravation tile from her Sync Grid and try to flinch them to stop their attacks
Does not look the most doable ever
oh so rain dance one to start and then once when absol is dead /dying
U should also be syncing w wally to activate his b move and bcz they have aoe debuff moves they’ll do alot of dmg + bede’s gmax smite does decent damage
Well moreso you should try to use your 2nd Rain Dance on the set of 3 actions right before you get your 2nd Sync
That way it’ll stay up long enough after Champ Serena’s Sync to Boost at least 2 Water Shurikens
ok
hmm something isnt working. I need to max them more
Phoebe was prob the hardest for me
Took me forever to beat her (ssrc - bp morty - aaron)
Level 120 should be more than sufficient. Can you maybe screenshot or record a video around the point where things go wrong so we can get a better idea of what might be going on?
Wally cyrus and giovanni made the other 3 ez, glacia I off typed w sssteven
Congrats!
TYYYY!
Phoebe with the ghost zone the horror
Okay so, I was able to beat Sidney and now Phoebe, but Drake and Glacia are really handing it to me. Drake I can get down to Kingdra but I just can't seem to finish the job. Any advice is welcome!
I'm getting sick of this mode, not gonna lie.
Do you have Cyrus and silver ?
For Glacia i recommend silver Skyla/Roxanne Blaine
Do you have silvers expanded grid?
Yeah, I just got Silver's expanded grid.
Skyla and Blaine are both only at 4*. I haven't gotten enough power ups to get them to 5. Is that okay? Roxanne might still be 3...
That should work
Sweet!
what are some recommended pairs for challenging Glacia with? So far the three I've had the most luck with are SS Hilda, SS Red and SS Blue. I've managed to get the other two mons down, but it's just the froslass that gives me trouble with its sync moves. Any advice?
SS Hilda + a tank + a Sun setter should easily win. Focus down the center 1st so that Glacia can't Sync and boost the whole team's damage by 50%
Make sure all 3 of your team members are acting before every enemy action, AKA triple queueing
Is SS Blue a good enough tank?
He works well, yeah. Evelyn, BP Morty, BP Clemont, Misty, probably even Liza will work as well
The tank doesn't need to be that bulky since SS Hilda does stupid amounts of damage. If you're on Hard Mode then doubly so
No problem
How good is 3/5 Sonia for tanking Hilda
I’m trying to take on Sidney and Phoebe, but dont know a good team for either of them
You mean acting as the tank in an SS Hilda team or acting as the main Support for a regular Hilda team?
Main support for regular Hilda
Ah. She works great then
Slap a Sun setter as the 3rd teammate and you're good to go. I used to use that team for Fire weak stuff until I got SS Hilda
Well Phoebe is easy, just use Giovanni
I can actually 10k IF round 4 Sidney is doable
Does poison stall still work?
I don't really see any reason why it wouldn't, just be aware of Thunder Wave
Ive been doing that but it doesnt work well 
what's the team comp?
Giovanni, Morty(Drifblim), and SS Blue
Should i use something else instead?
Yeah nvm using Sonia worked instead
Now i just need a team for Sidney
Giovanni would lack quick special attack buffs in your first team comp
also if you were using Morty's phantom force, it'd mess with your sync countdown
But the ones suggested by the pinned message isn’t very good for me since i either dont have some of the pairs or cant use their grids properly because im out of orbs
my best advice would be to offtype
man's too bulky to ontype if you don't have good nukers
sure
“I used the steven to defeat the steven”
the pins only have stage gimmicks, we don't recommend pairs
Oh 💀
depends. what ground type options do you have

So why don’t i use Lucian for it?
Thats his whole gimmick
And Absol’s a physical attacker!!
well sure... I just don't know if a 1/5 EX can nuke him presync
oh wait, it's hard mode anyway
hmm yeah, worth a try I suppose
just be careful with that thunder wave
Ill see how it goes!
The what
right before sync, Sidney will use thunder wave to paralyze all 3 of your pairs
Naomi’s that good?
Naomi’s pretty darn great, yeah. And since it’s Hard Mode the murder she can commit is even more assured
That wont harm my chances, will it?
you just want courtney for the zone
Coutney doesn’t need grid
Oh ok
So use this?
And then go for Naomi, Courtney, and basic healer for Steven?
I'm thinking of Bertha tanking, since she can lower attack under sandstorm
but maybe it'd be too heavy on gauge
maybe switch cynthia out, use something less overkill lmao
Could even just use Naomi/Bertha/SS Elesa for Steven
Since it’s just Hard Mode there should be no issue
Or Acerola instead of Bertha
I'm thinking Naomi/Acerola/good tank since Steven has high offenses
if you're using Naomi, then probably the special attack one is your best bet
of course she did
I mean,, she IS level 150, 5/5, with an overkill sync grid
Maybe Naomi should be the new meta instead of Ash
based take
afternoon Nov
Pick a striker for each battle and we can suggest around those
Okay so SSRed, Sycamore(?), Cyrus/Palkia, I don't have any decent ground or ghost
These what I got
Hard mode or Master Mode?
I think I should use Shared for some off type team...
This
Fantina is good for ghost there is also shadow ball mewtwo
Send us your whole roster so we can help you use as many types as possible.
Okay
Which Steven?
I meant the one I've to fight
This plus Giovanni gets to Steven east
Oh wait I got Zygarde for dragon too.
Easy*
Why not use Zygarde for ground?
Yeah i forgot about Zygarde 
Well that sets you up well!
Next time you filter by type, filter by "known moves" instead if you don't remember move types on your own
Out of those. sSR Zygarde and Palkia can actually set themselves up
Gio will need spatk and Sycamore will need crit
So the fun game is now slotting as many types in as we can
Should I use Ash for fire or use Silver instead? Silver can aoe sync. But SSRed OP af and got sync nuke grid
Rosa an obvious option for Giovanni, especially as she is EX
Both are fine, pick whichever
You can set up five preset teams to see what types you have at a glance
Sure just make sure you give Giovanni spatk and sycamore crit…
Okay
•Mewtwo/Rosa/Sonia (Psychic/Grass/Elec) -> Ghost week.
•Silver/SSBlue/Roxanne (Fire/Water/Rock) -> Fire week.
•Sycamore/Hop/Sabrina (Fairy/Steel) -> Fairy week.
•Cyrus/Skyla/Aaron (Flying/Bug) -> Dragon Week
•Serena/CRed/Hapu (Dragon/Normal/Ground) -> Steven
13 types.
Feel free to change anything you don't like.
I'll just use what sent. My brain stopped working trying to make teams.
While you're free to ask for help in this channel, we do encourage trying to build teams yourself. Good exercise
Oh hi chaos, didn't recognize you there for a sec
Sonia is just for potions??
Potions, buffs crit so Giovanni doesn't have to do it himself, buffs defense in case you get hit by physical AOEs (iirc the stage has earthquake)
And just has good gauge management in general
Damn, that Aaron dude heals so much
Hello November! I'm going to flex my name for a few weeks.
Why Cyrus, Skyla, Aaron?? Ain't there way too many heals??
Aaron is there for def/spdef boosts. Also you don't change weather meaning it'll be a longer fight.
And Cyrus loses 50% max hp in order to build himself.
Since my Aaron lvl1, should I upgrade or just go with lvl 1. Since Skyla will be tanking.
At least 100
Okay
120 is ideal, but if you don't have enough mats, 100 should be ok
Everything should be around 100/120 for hard mode - 4.2kMM
Hmmm personally I would change Aaron with Viola
Because drake wants status change to deactivate acute senses
Lv1 has no speed and dies even to bubble
That works too.
What's acute senses??
Level ups are pretty cheap, there should be no problem getting an unti at least to lv100
Check pins
Damage down if not statused i think
Damage mitigation if not inflicted with a status interfetence
Viola/Masquerain
Okay
Ah yes status change
Rebuff, restrain, telekinesis works too
Sooo I should use Viola instead of Aaron?
Yeah, give that a try
Okay
Who had acute sense?
The stage is mostly physical so defense buffs from skyla should be enough
Didn't even noticed he had acute sense
Ah yes 1st run was with Zerena, so no acute sense
What hapu for??
Accuracy??
You need to use all 18 types at some point to get more rewards and MM.
Hapu covers ground.
Not every unit has a role. Some are just there as fillers.
Bro died from being trapped and wasn't able to use sync move 
Wide guard works with aoe sync moves??
No it doesn’t
Uhhhh fire team kinda weak... Everyone died, no healer in team...
Silver?
What is the team?
Silver, SSBlue, Roxanne
I'll try once with SSRed, if still doens't work I might need to switch out Roxanne
Try, SSBlue/Bald Scientist/Silver. Use sun on round 2 and sync with Silver under sun.
Okay
I also got Ho-Oh Morty.
He got potions too
Yeah. You can use SSMorty. Just keep in mind that you'll have 12 units into hall of fame instead of 13. If you switch out Roxane.
You don't need heal. You need to brute force her. Quadqueue and kill her by the second sync.
It's RNG
Also Roxanne has wide guard. Can stop at least one aoe
Yeah I'll try a couple more times.
I won the dragon one coz I somehow managed to quad qued
Oof Endure saved me xD
Charizard one shotted the side hoes
Just copy one from #1009587872342478908 for moonblast.
Who do I sync in this team?? Sabrina, Sycamore, Hop
Okay so sycamore, then Sabrina, and then hop??
Sycamore first. The 2nd one depends on whether sabrina is EXd or not
Sycamore strong
Yeah, he did waaay more damage than I thought. Almost 6k per moon blast.
Fairy power 5 go brrr
Okay so Gio/Mewtwo, Rosa, who syncs first? Rosa?? Both are EX
Imagine if for his grid expansion they gave him more OaR tiles and Overpower 
Okay
Sooo Mewtwo gets ohkoed from the sync move everytime. Unable to kill it before it uses the sync move. Been 4 tries already.
Ah, you really don't want Phoebe to sync, ideally
Are you buffing spatk with Rosa and crit with gio?
This too
Yeah, once the crit, and twice Rosa sp.atk buff.
Crit should be twice
Mewtwo lvl is 114, that's the problem?
If I did that I'll miss one shadow ball... He crits just fine with once too??
So close
Oh god.
On +0 crit moves have around 12% to crit and sync moves 0%. On +3 crit moves have 100% to crit and sync moves have 80%.
Try tanking with Rosa and keep her alive with Sonia. That way you'll probably be able to quadqueue.
Fish for potion mpr through her grid.
Like 2-3 mprs. You'll need around 5/6 potions to pull it off. It's RNG but it's a decent chance.
30% isn't a decent chance

She's 2/5 so the other mpr is still locked.
Ayooo done!!!
Can I change these if I don't like any of these?
No you have to choose 1 of them
… oh wait you mean back out?
Yeah if you fought the champ and didn’t like what you picked you can quit and fight him again and you Can choose something else
Zerena usually doesn't need a specific field effect. Probably the first is the best.
Okay. Thanks. Done 
GJ mate.
Congrats on doing a great job!
okay guys
my first time doing hoenn stadium
also
never completed stadium because i suck at the game
send help
There's only more than 1 day remaining until it's actually over
Then it's off to Johto
First you gotta fill in the type medal
no idea what that is
It a medal where you need to use all 18 types to unlock master mode
It varies for each region
then you can just take it slow with Hoenn and beat it with 5 good teams without having to worry about the medal
well, it gives some sweet sweet rewards like candy coins and 
I made my first team
menacing
Support?
I don't have dragon sync pairs
Cyrus?
He's perfectly good
cmon anni may and ss steven are a menacing team
But who will take the hits
true
Drake agrees, after his sync kills you.
I need help for the phoebe fight
Standard 2k presync?
That team looks fine to me
or maybe you'll want faster sp def debuffs
Cyrus is perfectly good and perfectly usable vs drake
That way you can use your overkill psychic team against a stage that you're actually struggling with
defense deoxys 
Yep
Do you have Lucian?
No
Did you grid elio with mind games on sparkling aria?
Yes
Oh yeah, what round is that
What Fantina grid are you running?
4
Sync nuke
So the problem is just not enough damage?
Yeah
If damage is the issue do a blue adrenaline sync into Fantina’s sync.
Gives you more time to set up sp def debuffs and such.
i always sync with blue first
Let me do a test or two
Ok thanks
Alright actually show me the Fantina grid.
and blue’s
Just need to cover our bases
I ask because Fantina second sync wipes them out for me.
Your Fantina grid doesn’t have smarty pants which is the issue.
Blue grid will do
You can give up the top left sync tiles if you lack the orbs
Hi I'm back from doing test runs and failing
Because fantina failed to crit on her sync
4 times
4 times 
So i tried again

Why aren't we using Giovanni?
Fantina should be doing pretty good anyways, the issue is that she can potentially fail to crit Sync
Fantina worked perfectly fine 1st try in testing on 2nd sync and first sync.
November, you’re crazy.
9k only
On second sync?
Yes after blue sync
Alright I’m 99% sure setup isn’t right because I got 40k
Sounds like failure to crit
Yeah she didnt crit
That would do it, yeah
Unfortunately Syncs have (unless otherwise stated) an innate -1 to crit rate, so at +3 it's only an 80% chance
Let me screenshot the grids I used
I also changed my parameters
Video might take a while because discord max file limit shenanigans
We aren’t debuffing their special defence which is why the sync isn’t doing very much.
You don’t have pal dawn or ss hilbert by chance?
I have ss hilbert
Phoebe has wise entry 2. +2 sp def on entry, that's kinda annoying
Swap out elio for him.
Mash metal sound
Make sure you use Fantina’s tm before sync
Show your ground type sync pairs please
I only have 4
Namely Bertha, Courtney, Clay and Hapu
And Courtney is the only one leveled up
Cause fuck books and bottles, I always lack them 
Courtney will do fine, even at move level 1 without ex
https://youtu.be/Hcj36jTe9yk well, video's up
Sync grids:
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/2101/900?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFERMUFiUnKCotMjU
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/15100/42900?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBgkfIiMkLi8wMTIzNDU
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/12200/73000?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggKDQ4REhMaHB8iJA
I used different params from pins (I always do lol)
Had to give phoebe as little bulk as I dare
So this was an RNG fest.. pray Phoebe doesn't use shadow ball too often
A shadow ball can take out more than half of blue's HP
Same. I just prefer different Param strats
@pine spruce run hop, Courtney, and someone else to buff Atk/def.
doing it with a fav unit feels way more rewarding
Oh btw this is r1 because i'm too lazy 💀
Better in r1 so we weren’t getting possibly inflated numbers
Devs, when will you give us the option to do a no-rewards run just to test round parameters whenever we want
hop, courtney and a physical striker...
At least after we finish master mode for that week
SSRed would be a bad option lmao
Courtney strikes fine on her own
At least for this
Don’t get me started on the wild idea called hunter’s instinct Courtney
so I guess running two supports will do well as normal?
Not being able to test Champion is the worst




