Champion Stadium

[swift swan]

Reminder that R1 is gonna make it hard to naturally quadqueue

[main crow]

Just need to give him status effect and he should be soggy papers

[swift swan]

Just pick gradual healing param

[magic crown]

Ok

[main crow]

I legit forgot that it affects him lmao

[swift swan]

I caved in to the RNG. I let Red die and synced first with SSRC instead

[full mesa]

A combination of pre-post sync parameters. In hard MM like Sinnoh/Hoenn I end up post sync on stall 4-5/5 matches.

[main crow]

Eh still did it with Cyrus anyways without it

[swift swan]

People discovered this the first time ground-weak Aaron had it and went nuts

[toxic cobalt]

What a useless gimmick though

[full mesa]

What's the next CSMM? Since no Kalos unfortunately.

[sand karma]

Which is the better grid for Fantina? Shadowball on a roll + crit strike 2 + crit entry
Or sb on a roll + sync nodes + sync multiplier?
Or no on a roll at all

[green path]

Johto iirc

[full mesa]

I run her with sync nuke. Ex makes it easier. For LG you can switch to SBall.

[toxic cobalt]

Annilili OP

[swift swan]

It's even funnier with Aaron because his TM gives him gradual healing. So he turns off his own gimmick

[void wyvern]

Aaron realized he’s too unfun.

[full mesa]

I still couldn't do Sidney on type with Mina... I really need a good Fairy striker. But I don't like Galarian Rapidash.

[manic mica]

ok sidney is too easy with ss wally LMAO

[swift swan]

Me 🤝 Chaos
Giving up on Mina vs Sidney

[void wyvern]

SS wally my beloved

[toxic cobalt]

Sidney is the Mina killer

[swift swan]

I preached Mina vs Cynthia all the time but Sidney really said no

[full mesa]

I did Mina Vs Cynthia. But I can't do Sidney.

[swift swan]

Same

[manic mica]

glacia is pretty annoying jesus

[swift swan]

Sidney's just too damn bulky

[toxic cobalt]

I think I silvered Glacia

[swift swan]

Change the weather as quickly as possible

[toxic cobalt]

Week 2

[swift swan]

She hits too damn hard

[manic mica]

im doing that w gordie

[toxic cobalt]

Does Silverhave dauntless?

[manic mica]

yea

[swift swan]

Lyra tanking right? She's pretty squishy

[manic mica]

im using overheat grid

[toxic cobalt]

I don’t have Gordie what does he do besides Sun?

[manic mica]

fire rebuff

[sand karma]

Lyra is just perfect for a Blaine + silver team
Why did she have to be so frail

[toxic cobalt]

Damn

[swift swan]

Being horrendously slow

[manic mica]

i can use blaine but...

[toxic cobalt]

Just let Lyra die I guess

Should still work

[manic mica]

gordie dies before lyra kek

[toxic cobalt]

Looks like I abused flinching week 2

Highly recommend

[swift swan]

Nothing to abuse this week

[manic mica]

i might just offtype glacia

with triple psychic tech team

[swift swan]

Silver can do it easily, you probably just need better luck

[toxic cobalt]

Elio is always there

[swift swan]

Because oh boy do those blizzards hit like a brick

[toxic cobalt]

Switch gordie for Elio

My top tip

For every Cs stage ever

Guess who doesn’t set hail when they’re asleep?

[void wyvern]

Glacia!

[swift swan]

She sets hail right before her sync. If you manage to quadqueue, Silver should be able to kill her in 2 syncs

Can't abuse the hail when she's dead

[dull yarrow]

Sygna Suit May can kill her in 1 sync

[toxic cobalt]

One day I’ll get mine off lv1

[manic mica]

ok i killed her in 2 syncs

she got her sync off +hail

but light screen op

time to beat up steven with double pikachu

[void wyvern]

Silver should be able to kill her in one sync.

[magic crown]

Ok so for Drake I off typed it and he got souffled cooked by this team he got world star by this team lol

[void wyvern]

Or one sync plus 2 overheat..

[swift swan]

Blasphemy

[manic mica]

with the team im using?

[swift swan]

Yes. Probably a grid issue

Silver's nuke is insane

[void wyvern]

Let me get an example

[manic mica]

hmmge

[swift swan]

Well if it works it works

[full mesa]

+6 att, +3crit, SEUN, sun up, 0 sync buff = 25k on mid.

[toxic cobalt]

Add on fire rebuff from Gordie

[dull yarrow]

SS Hilda can clear the stage easily

[manic mica]

i use the grid in docs, but how do i keep sun up until he syncs? is weather in this game turn based or time based

[toxic cobalt]

Time

Just use it with Gordie again I guess

[full mesa]

1/5?

[dull yarrow]

3/5

[swift swan]

He should have inertia too, no?

[void wyvern]

Nothing says free like silver nuke

[swift swan]

I feel like with the right grid, he should do much more on first sync

Solar flare 14 is no joke

[manic mica]

i understand now

sun runs out before i sync with him lol

ill do cs again but 2k this time

[full mesa]

I yeah. That too.

But not max speed.

[void wyvern]

That would definitely make a difference

[manic mica]

ill try it with blaine

[swift swan]

Damn, what params were they using? No sync buffs but Glacia was already so close to syncing?

Is this some -2 sync countdown shenanigans

[toxic cobalt]

I mean why not

[void wyvern]

I should’ve ran Atk 30% over max hp 20%

I goofed

[swift swan]

Reducing sync countdown is my biggest fear

Even if sometimes I can benefit from it

[toxic cobalt]

Once you’re messing around with first nuke kills it’s free points

[void wyvern]

I think people need to be less afraid of sync reduction and hp halved

[swift swan]

Yeah, should probably do that more often

[toxic cobalt]

Pick a psychic stage, run Giovanni and Animay.

[swift swan]

I only take sync countdown -1 when there's a half sync param

[manic mica]

i run ol reliable

ss steven, bianca, lucian

[swift swan]

I pick hp half when I use ss dawn lol

[full mesa]

Glacia fire week hits too damn hard for half hp. I want to run SSRed against her but I can't because spdef drops.

[void wyvern]

I pick half hp usually with -3 enemy sync because high chance I can kill them before they kill me.

[full mesa]

Same with SSACynthia.

[toxic cobalt]

True presync

[void wyvern]

The one thing I stay truly away from is mp halved.

[full mesa]

Is this the power of a god?

I pick that with Ash.

[void wyvern]

Blegh. Ash.

You probably do -2 cooldown with Agatha, SSR/fall masked Galar gym leader

Because Agatha hits hard

[swift swan]

Chaotic neutral

[swift swan]

Ah yes, I can't think of a single instance I pick this

[void wyvern]

No matter what, even in setups like SSR Cynthia where I only need 1 mp. I never ever pick it

[swift swan]

Fall masked galar gym leader

[void wyvern]

My memory stopped working…

I’m high on Agatha shadow ball rn

[full mesa]

I did SCLillie/Sabrina/Alister against Phoebe today. I love him. Hits too damn hard.

[void wyvern]

I’d use Allister. If he wasn’t 1/5….

I heard he’s great

Although if I have to whine about something it’s that you can’t use his dmax post sync

[full mesa]

The battles usually don't last that long. Support ex sync -> GMax -> Something to accel the sync countdown -> Alister sync -> Death.

[void wyvern]

Oh I see.

How hard does Allister shadow ball hit outside of ghost field?

[full mesa]

With ex support and restrain... Hard. I don't know the exact numbers. Also I run a sync nuke build. Don't bother with SBall.

[void wyvern]

Hehe, that’s fair. No point in bothering with weak moves when your nuke is amazing.

[full mesa]

He's also viable as a secondary striker for poison weak

[void wyvern]

But will he do more damage than my 5* 20/20 Jessie? (Probably but I’m stubborn)

[full mesa]

I don't have the rocket 2. They haven't rerun alongside Giovanni boost since I joined.

[void wyvern]

Hehe, it’s my favourite badge of honour. I hope they rerun with grids.

[sand karma]

Looks doable?
If it doesn't work I'll try replacing Courtney with erika, Lyra with ex Hilbert, Sonia with SSblue

[toxic cobalt]

Sycamore solo

[sand karma]

Maxie is so frustrating
His tms take up so much time building up i need another sun setter

[boreal rose]

When you dont know defog doesnt work on rain

[void wyvern]

What do you mean “his tm takes too long.”

[sand karma]

4 tms if i use whatever team I've set for him

[boreal rose]

Use a charakter to buff his crit rate

[void wyvern]

Perhaps you should switch the team so you have a crit buffer

Save some time.

[sand karma]

I have damage dealers for all 5 this week but can't manage supports

[void wyvern]

In a realistic comp. You should be able to just use TM, blades, tm,

[sand karma]

Ditch Courtney then?

[void wyvern]

If you show us your supports we could pick one out

The easy choice is maylene but maybe you have something better

[sand karma]

I could use hop

[toxic cobalt]

Yeah Hop OP. Just make sure you have a full speed buffer

[void wyvern]

surge and raichu max your crit in 2 tms.

But hop is also a good choice as he’s bulky

[sand karma]

But again this is why he's so difficult
If i ditch Courtney no ground wish, pre sync fail
Keep Courtney, run out of sun again fail

[void wyvern]

Is your Maxie 3/5?

[sand karma]

1/5

[toxic cobalt]

Can you screenshot

Maxie shouldn’t be too difficult

[void wyvern]

Let me just do a quick run

[boreal rose]

"try succesful teams"

literally first team has Zerena.
Nope

[main crow]

Successful teams? More like whale teams

[hidden ore]

All Ghost are anni Lillie 💀

[boreal rose]

Me included

Anni Lillie go brrr

[hidden ore]

I have r3 and r4 left
And Glacia & Phoebe left 💀

[digital drum]

Damn Glacia is very difficult

[hidden ore]

Did previous rounds on intuition

[digital drum]

She's like

[hidden ore]

I have good fires for Glacia

[keen jasper]

You serious? Power boosted Silver immediately destroys her

[digital drum]

"Haha icy wind go brrr"

[void wyvern]

I mashed through this quickly. Only surge has a grid but it isn’t relevant

[hidden ore]

But again I can’t set params right 💀

[main crow]

3 Blizzards opener Glacia

[digital drum]

I dont have him at 140

[main crow]

Why does it hit so hard even under sun

[void wyvern]

Even at like 120 he does the job

[hidden ore]

My homies hate aoe Icy Winders and Earthquakes

[keen jasper]

Doesn't matter, just use his TM before his sync and he'll melt Glacia like his fiery hatred

[void wyvern]

Also silver is busted. Level him up.

[main crow]

Silver claps Glacia ez

Actually he just claps every fire CSMM ez

[hidden ore]

Which params to use?

For Phoebe

[keen jasper]

I did max HP and offensive against her

Using Fantina

[digital drum]

Guess I'll level him Up for It But I'm doing It for the second battle

[hidden ore]

Can’t decide for r3
Phoebe or Glacia?

[void wyvern]

Phoebe

[boreal rose]

What are ur teams

[void wyvern]

Don’t do glacia round 3. It never goes well

[hidden ore]

I almost had Glacia at r3

[sand karma]

Wow okay that's good to know
BTW why didn't you start with ground zone?
What move level is your Maxie? Yours is ex tho

[trail smelt]

I faced Phoebe Round3

But yeah Fire Weak Glacia is very strong with her special attacks

[hidden ore]

Which params for phoebe did you use?

[void wyvern]

I’ve got at least 6 moves to get through before I’m actually doing damage so ground zone is a waste turn one.

[trail smelt]

The pinned Pre sync parameter but I dropped no stats reduction for an additional strength 1

[hidden ore]

I want to use Allister regular with Renegade & PoltLillie

[void wyvern]

Also Maxie is 1/5 no grid

[hidden ore]

But he died to eqs with params I set before

Wanted to use Helena too

[void wyvern]

Just nuke with ren?

[hidden ore]

Hmm I’ll try

[digital drum]

what grid should I use to kill glacia?

[spring fable]

Damn this week was hard

I only did 5550 pts

[boreal rose]

Easier thwn Wallace Weeks

Other than Drake. I 1st tried everything

[void wyvern]

Overheat sync nuke.

[spring fable]

Struggled most with Glacia and drake

[void wyvern]

Glacia is kinda free with silver

[boreal rose]

Glacia is easy. With SSHilda and SSMay

[spring fable]

I wasn’t able to 1.5k her sadly

[digital drum]

Okay then I put dauntless on him right?

[spring fable]

I removed some Params to make it easier for me

[void wyvern]

What was your glacia team?

[spring fable]

Ended at 5550 overall, averaging about 1.3k per fight

[sand karma]

In game recommendation behaviour

[void wyvern]

That or cs2. Up to you.

I genuinely think silver is easier to clear and explain than ss Hilda

[digital drum]

I have them and they die easy

[boreal rose]

Cabt relate

Optimize >

[void wyvern]

Imagine using the in game recommendations instead of Flannery. Smh

[boreal rose]

Do you hsvr SSMorty?

[digital drum]

Already used him

[boreal rose]

Oh

[void wyvern]

Do you have Blaine?

I’d hope

[digital drum]

Yeah but I cant put him to tank there

[void wyvern]

Lyra can tank just fine

Maybe a bit frail but for 3 turns she’ll live

[digital drum]

I dont have her EX tho

But then the team would be Lyra, Blaine and Silver?

[void wyvern]

Yes.

Lyra Blaine silver

I went to record a video to showcase this and literally everything keeps going wrong, silver misses crits and glacia froze Blaine right before sunny day

[swift swan]

it do be

Glacia refuses to chill

[void wyvern]

I got the video done. But glacia lived on 1hp and I’m mad.

[swift swan]

[digital drum]

Yeah still cant beat It

I need one more Sun MP and done

[void wyvern]

Here’s an idea of how it might work.

[digital drum]

My silver doesnt get Supereffective Up

And I have the power up

[void wyvern]

Then your grid is goofy

[swift swan]

super command on grid, or whatever it's called that gives it

[void wyvern]

Show us ye grid.

[digital drum]

Its the one I said Up there from +gridlist

[main crow]

this grid doesn't have super command

[swift swan]

you need the super command

[main crow]

It's just below ramp up

[digital drum]

Yeah I didnt know

[swift swan]

can probably drop ramming speed instead and take super command if you're running nuke silver anyway

[void wyvern]

Run this

This will solve your problems

[digital drum]

+gridlist said to put that and not the Supereffective

[digital drum]

Alright, thanks

[void wyvern]

Grid list is goofy

Gotta deviate every now and then

[main crow]

Grid list is not a recommendation for the most part, it's mostly for references to help you

And tweak it a lil to fit your needs

[digital drum]

Alright

Still cant beat it

[void wyvern]

What goes wrong?

[digital drum]

It doesnt do much damage to the middle

It kills the sides But not the middle

[void wyvern]

I’m starting to think this is a parameter issue

[manic mica]

Can it work for this stage ?

[toxic cobalt]

Probably

[digital drum]

I mean It might be But I have It so I can burn it, should I take that out?

[keen jasper]

Who'll lower special defense?

Fantina needs special defense to be lowered for her multipliers

[manic mica]

Well that's the problem

I have elio

[keen jasper]

Do you have Lucian?

[manic mica]

Sadly no

[keen jasper]

Helena?

[manic mica]

I do

[keen jasper]

Well, Helena does have OaR on her Shadow Ball for 60% chance of lowering Sp. Def.

[manic mica]

i might try that if im really out of option

Its a bummer because i used cerena just the round before

[void wyvern]

I’d recommend Agatha over Helena. 100% chance to lower spdef with her grid and better speed.

Easy peasy. Good job!

Agatha doing 10k shadow ball is really funny to me.

[swift swan]

well-deserved buff

[verbal karma]

R1 Phoebe, yes or no?

[void wyvern]

Yes she’s alright on round 1

Unless you have a special ghost attacker, I’d save her for round 3

[digital drum]

[void wyvern]

Last Agatha plug before I finally sleep

[swift swan]

[void wyvern]

[manic kiln]

johto

[tribal agate]

thanks for the graphic Lost!

[trail smelt]

Alright time to absolutely crush Johto

Ugh

Fairy weak AGAIN

[full mesa]

Time to relax a bit.

5 weeks. Nice.

Although, double rock Karen...

[main crow]

Lol why ghost weak again

Oh well it's Johto I can actually on type it

[civic trellis]

I got 9.5k every week in hoenn and sinnoh, hopefully 10k now

[main crow]

Wait half of Johto first week are repeats

[full mesa]

Not hopefully. You'll do it. Sinnoh and Hoenn are way worse than the rest.

[full mesa]

This week Giovanni can easily do Ghost week Phoebe. Roxanne and BPMorty are powerful supports for him.

[trail smelt]

Not entirely sure about that Bruno team honestly lol

Weak to fighting and all, and no defensive buffs

[verbal karma]

I...I have Fantina

[full mesa]

It's Johto. Just do it.

[verbal karma]

4/5, even

still gotta grid her, though

[swift swan]

look if you can almost 10k the two hardest CS regions by far, then you can easily 10k Johto

it's like, the second oldest CS. it's dead easy

[swift swan]

looks like I'll barely make any changes for my team next week

Lance is gonna face the wrath of Kris's grid expansion, how fun

[full mesa]

Maybe I'll try some 2v3 teams against Johto.

[swift swan]

[full mesa]

Like the frog duo for champion.

Or SCLillie/Alister for Will.

Also I'm thinking Hop/SSRed for Agatha.

I'll need that propulsion tho.

[trail smelt]

Agatha?

Oh Koga

[full mesa]

Koga. Yes...

[swift swan]

you'll most likely postsync if you're doing duos

so I don't think propulsion is that necessary

well, I suppose you can presync if your first nuke is insane enough

[full mesa]

Yeah. I won't use pre sync strategies.

[primal field]

I don't know if this sounds good but is it a good idea to use glalie(5/5) against fire type weak e4 gal as a tank?

[full mesa]

Why not?

[swift swan]

against candice?

you mean with her?

[hidden ore]

Guess I have to reset
Phoebe sync hits TOO Hard on r3

[swift swan]

either way, Glalie isn't a great tank

[swift swan]

what's your other option?

[full mesa]

Do you have BPMorty?

[hidden ore]

BP Morty yes

No Lillie anni

[full mesa]

He can max out both defences and has potion.

[hidden ore]

Tried with Aaron

Maybe just params wrong

[full mesa]

Pair him with Roxanne and Giovanni. I think it is a nice f2p ghost team

[hidden ore]

My usual team is Renegade + sc Lillie

For ghosties

Everyone dies to sync

[full mesa]

You power her move up.

[hidden ore]

I don’t know whats wrong here

[full mesa]

Either you pre sync or set second zone after her sync.

[hidden ore]

3/5 ex Renegade

Other option is Glacia on r3

[swift swan]

from my experience, 3/5 EX SSRC nukes down phoebe on first sync

[full mesa]

I used SCLillie/Sabrina/Alister to do her round 2.

[swift swan]

and she wasn't even at max attack

just make sure she's gridded for her nuke and ghost zone is up

[swift swan]

even worse idea lol. stick to phoebe r3

[full mesa]

This team should destroy her.

[hidden ore]

I swear params are wrong for me

[swift swan]

hmm, SC Lillie can flinch, right?

[full mesa]

Yes

[swift swan]

you might get lucky with that

[full mesa]

Try the ones at the pins.

[hidden ore]

I always boost myself on first tounds

[swift swan]

are you trying to get support EX sync in?

[full mesa]

Pre sync preferably and stick to SBall.

[swift swan]

imo presyncing Phoebe is kinda hard because she hits way too hard and your tank is likely to die before or right after their first sync, and so you can't queue up your 2nd sync in time

try syncing with SSRC first sync

[full mesa]

This Phoebe?

[swift swan]

she should OHKO mid

[full mesa]

I didn't have any issues today with her. Could even touch me.

[swift swan]

she hits very hard, on R3 which boosts special moves, under ghost zone too

Phoebe 2-shotted my Red multiple times

[full mesa]

Yeah. You shouldn't use ghost zone unless you aim to nuke her.

[full mesa]

I did her R2. R3 was for Drake and ZinniaMRay.

[main crow]

Since it's Johto thinking of doing some duo w/ op fairs
Also don't mind the Lisia I'm thinking of pulling her NY

[full mesa]

Is your Hilda 1/5 or higher?

[main crow]

3/5

Same with Glojo

[full mesa]

Also I think that the sub bros can do easily.

[main crow]

Oh they should yeah but the early game sometimes riddled with gauge problem

I'll try anyway next week

[swift swan]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/9102/48700?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFFRgbHB8jJSkqLS4v I'd recommend this instead

[swift swan]

for SSRC

[frosty axle]

Here is my F2P run for week 4 #1049327702886318110 message

[grim island]

Round 2 phoebe with this shoukd be okay no?
My 2k post sync attempts were better than 2k pre sync but I still cannot defeat her [I'm using pinned params ]

[full mesa]

You can't because ghost zone powers her up.

Also change your tactics.

[violet timber]

I seem to have a tendency to accidentally use +6 HP instead of -2 move gauge

[violet timber]

You should be able to do it if you swap Misty with an ATK debuffer

[mellow linden]

Well with the right team you definitely can beat Phoebe with Ghost Zone

I just don’t know if that’s the right team

[hidden ore]

I did that Phoebe with Lillie & Cynthia, RedLax thank you so much!

[hidden ore]

Do you happen to have ss Elesa? Or RedLax? Breathtaking! can help with your sync countdown

[grim island]

Yeah I have both

[swift swan]

Redlax/Morty/SSRC was my team vs Phoebe

note that Ghost Zone significantly powers up Phoebe and you really don't need her to hit even harder than she already does

time your zone well

[solemn pine]

How's johtos champion stadium? Next week will be my first attempt to it

[civic trellis]

Sinnoh and Hoenn r pretty tough, the rest r much easier

[mellow linden]

Johto CS is a huge downgrade on difficulty compared to Hoenn and Sinnoh. If you can do 7.5k on those 2 then you can probably 10k on Johto

[undone ether]

Will this be fine? o.o

Whats the prefered to fight order?

[timber summit]

Do I do Glacia R2 or R4? I'll use Silver/Shorty/Def Debuffer

[sand karma]

Non expanded Giovanni can take this psychic round?
2 rock and 2 psychic weak fml

[mellow linden]

What, you mean Bruno? Should have zero issues murdering him with Bianca (or other Psychic Terrain setter) and only minor issues at worst without

[sand karma]

No Bianca

[mellow linden]

So only minor issues at worst

Bruno's not that hard

[sand karma]

Nice

[long thicket]

Phoebe and Drake weak to their own specialty feels weird.

Just noticed Drake too.

[grim island]

I can't seem to do it 😦 Offtype it is!
Would SSA Cynthia (Ex) / Bea (Ex) / Classic Red be okay for Round 2 Phoebe 2k MM?

[long thicket]

So for fairy, I have EX Diantha, Wally, Bede, and if the seasonal Serena and Dawn help, I have them.
For ghost, I have good options, maybe Lillie and Cynthia are overkill.
Fire might be a little difficult if that's the blizzard spam one, but I have Hilda and N, or I can exchange N for someone who can set sun.
Dragon, I have the Serena and Lucas combo, so I'm not too worried.
Ground, I have Victor and Maxie, and just got Courtney for the type buff if I need it.

I think Fighting and Ice are the only stages that really worry me.
I'll need to check the grids for 3 and 4* Fighting syncs, and see how I can improve Korrina and Bea.

[swift swan]

second oldest CS. Very easy

[topaz flame]

When building teams for CSMM, should we take into account each round's parameter, and what is a good website/tool to use to help plan teams?

[main crow]

Some parameters could make a big difference yeah

Dunno abt team but pomastool does have a page listing CS stages and their passives

[topaz flame]

Okay thanks

What does mitigation mean on pomastoool?

[boreal rose]

Brubo be like: i hate pink

[keen jasper]

What mitigation?

[undone ether]

Fletchling lmao u are great

[topaz flame]

In PoMa tools, I'm looking at the stages for CSMM and there's a column that says mitigation

[keen jasper]

Ah, stat mitigation

[swift swan]

Means that they have a resistance to whatever mitigation it is. Having a 5 mitigation on attack debuffs means your debuff is less effective that it should be against an opponent with 0 mitigation

folks at #916852044692856834 should know more about this

[solemn pine]

Never thought Jasmine with Ampharos would help alot with survivability and nukes

[swift swan]

You can take a look at their pins and see if it answers your questions

[topaz flame]

Oh ok

[frosty axle]

my gacha runs have been added also #1049327702886318110 message

[austere quest]

I am getting so frustrated that SS Hilda isn’t able to clear Ontype

Running SS Hilda-Silver-SS Morty against Glacia again, and I can’t seem to get to my second sync

[full mesa]

Is she 3/5?

[swift swan]

You couldn't quadqueue?

Did you use Sunny Day as your first move?

[toxic cobalt]

Elio

[keen jasper]

What move level is your SS Morty?

[austere quest]

2/5, like is recommended

[austere quest]

I don’t really quadqueue, I haven’t seen the need for it yet

[austere quest]

No, she is 2/5

[keen jasper]

That's kind of a problem

[austere quest]

Is quadqueue really important for SS Hilda?

[keen jasper]

It's important in general

Unless you have something that reduces your sync CD

[austere quest]

It’s not like she will drop everything though since I don’t have her EX’d

[keen jasper]

Silver alone can easily destroy Glacia

Along with your SS Morty

[austere quest]

Silver drops to the first Sync

[keen jasper]

But since your SS Morty is 2/5, you need to quadqueue

[austere quest]

Oh really?

[keen jasper]

Yeah, SS Morty has Adrenaline at 3/5

[austere quest]

Those infographs lied to me 😭

[toxic cobalt]

How do you reach second sync without quadqueue?

[keen jasper]

And also Team Gimme Five, which can be used to complete your damage dealer's offensive stats

[austere quest]

Normally I just survive the first sync because I am awesome

I offtype a lot

[swift swan]

Well if you want to get your 2nd sync in before Glacia wipes you out with her own sync, you do need to quadqueue

[keen jasper]

Still on my Berserker Bunch and All Ramped Up copium for SS Morty

[austere quest]

I also sometimes just kill before they sync

Dang it

Okay fine

I will attempt to quadqueue

[swift swan]

What params are you using?

[swift swan]

What infographs lol

[austere quest]

Pretty Standard ones

[austere quest]

• candy

[keen jasper]

+candy

[swift swan]

2k presync? Then you need to quadqueue most of the time to get 2 syncs in

[swift swan]

Your tank might survive 1st sync but your damage dealer most likely will not

[austere quest]

Oh weird

I usually have them survive the sync

[keen jasper]

What round is that?

[austere quest]

Or at least I have been use to that

[swift swan]

Oh lord

[austere quest]

This is third round

[swift swan]

Not picking both shields and picking max sync countdown -1 instead is never a standard param

[keen jasper]

[austere quest]

Oh I am aware, I must have clicked one off by accidnet

[swift swan]

Makes it even harder because Glacia already hits like a truck without R3's added round param

[keen jasper]

Also, I think max HP and max offensive parameters should be easier

[austere quest]

So should I do her R4 then?

[swift swan]

For one thing, picking up max sync countdown means you won't be able to get 2 syncs before your opponent's first, unless you have a lot of sync accel shenanigans

[keen jasper]

I'd replace SS Hilda for an AoE defense debuffer

[swift swan]

Both ss hilda and silver can do it, no problem

And ss morty is a great gauge support

That team is fine

[keen jasper]

True

[swift swan]

It's the params

[keen jasper]

But Silver alone is more than enough

[austere quest]

I am going to do Drake for R3 right now

[keen jasper]

You probably should've done Drake in R1

R4 is perfect for Sidney since he has lower stat mitigation

[austere quest]

Is the extra HP the best way to go without quadqueuing?

[keen jasper]

You still need to quadqueue because you only have 2/5 on your SS Morty

And Glacia tends to spam a lot of Blizzards and icy Winds

Your sun will wear off when SS Morty does his sync

[swift swan]

1. No shields which are free 100 points
2. Stacking attack and defense and strength is a terrible idea
3. defense is usually used in stalling, barely any other team comp ever utilizes this
4. Max sync countdown + sync buff +5 just gives too much advantage to your opponents. If you can't kill before or on first sync, don't do this
5. If your team doesn't need to debuff opponents, pick up no stat reduction

[swift swan]

Probably max attack and max power on hit. Give your opponents as little bulk as possible

Not being able to quadqueue means you need to make sure your first sync + extra DPS can take out the opponent

You can't reach your 2nd sync before theirs, so hoping your DPS is enough is the way

[austere quest]

Huh

I haven’t had problems with the parameters so far and I just took out Drake before his First Sync

Plus I was Offtyping him

[swift swan]

With what team

[austere quest]

This is the correct Parameter I would attempt Glacia with for my SS Hilda Team

[swift swan]

Just pick up both shields

They're meaningless anyway, crits pierce through them

[austere quest]

Oh really?

[keen jasper]

Yeah

[austere quest]

I didn’t know that

Good to know

[keen jasper]

You didn't know, ok...

[austere quest]

I don’t know why but I didn’t assume

[toxic cobalt]

The lack of f2p special attack up crit buffers is impeding my team building

[swift swan]

See folks this is why you don't skim through victory road

[solemn pine]

[austere quest]

You got me!

[potent wadi]

Can someone show me the successful team for the Champion? I can't do that without beating the E4 first

[keen jasper]

[solemn pine]

[keen jasper]

Just use your most powerful ground types

[swift swan]

Still, stacking defense and strength is not a common paramater set for dealing damage

It's usually a stall one

[swift swan]

That would require me to reset my CS, and still have to do E4 again before I can see Steven's stage...

[verbal karma]

so wait

R1 Phoebe good or nah?

[keen jasper]

First, show us your ground types

[austere quest]

Do when I need to move off of a common para, what I choose?

[keen jasper]

R1 Drake

[swift swan]

Good, but R1 will disrupt your quadqueue

So whoever you face R1, make sure you know how to handle that

[swift swan]

The params on pins are a good guide

[potent wadi]

Here are the teams I'm planning on using

[austere quest]

So just what I have been doing then?

[mellow linden]

SS Giovanni + gauge support + 3rd teammate will crush Steven

[austere quest]

Because that’s where I got my paras from

[keen jasper]

You have SS Giovanni and Maxie, why are you worried about Steven?

Both of them will destroy him with ease

[potent wadi]

Oh, guess I'm worrying way too much.

[swift swan]

Yes, but each param set has a different purpose. For one thing, the defense + strength combination you've been running is meant for stalling, with stall comps. You don't expect to dish out fast and high damage with that parameter

[verbal karma]

do I need phys or spec for nuke?

[keen jasper]

Any

[swift swan]

Besides, some of your parameter options don't work well together. Like stacking strengths with max sync countdown and sync buff, when you know you're gonna eat a sync, isn't a good idea

[mellow linden]

Drake doesn't have an Entry passive

[keen jasper]

Drake does have rain multipliers

So make sure you change the weather

[mellow linden]

But he does want you to inflict some form of interference or other status change, and change the weather

[keen jasper]

Laughs in gradual regen parameter

[mellow linden]

Blaine can do both if you don't need him for Glacia, or you can use the Gradual Healing parameter to handle the status change, yeah

[austere quest]

But that’s what is recommend in the infograph isn’t it?

[swift swan]

Idk which infographic you mean, but the recommended parameters on pins state which kind of battle they are meant for

[mellow linden]

Max Sync Countdown reduction is, as far as I'm aware, not recommended at all in the pinned paramters

[verbal karma]

oh, oof

[austere quest]

Okay so I am correct then

[swift swan]

If you do want to use defense and strength params, fine. It's valid. For the right team comp and with the proper strategy

[verbal karma]

there is no support that changes the weather to "sunny"

[toxic cobalt]

Blaine

Tech Vulpix

[trail smelt]

Other than SS Morty you mean?

[mellow linden]

Well, SS Morty, but he's limited. Blaine is a Sun setter

[keen jasper]

Any weather as long as it isn't sandstorm

[mellow linden]

As is SS Erika

[swift swan]

Only ss morty if you're looking for support specifically. Well, there's Lyra too

[trail smelt]

Yeah if you want weather and terrain look at your techs

[verbal karma]

well, I don't wanna deal with Hail either, so

...oh god damn it

[mellow linden]

Don't you mean Rain? Or does Drake also get Sandstorm buffs this week?

[verbal karma]

no support that can decrease Attack either

[verbal karma]

no, he gets Rain buffs

[keen jasper]

Oh yeah lol

[swift swan]

Dawn

[toxic cobalt]

Ghetsis, Mina

[mellow linden]

Dawn can, but you shouldn't need Attack debuffs

Defense buffs should work just fine

[verbal karma]

Palentine's Dawn? because she's tech

[swift swan]

Regular dawn

[mellow linden]

No, regular Dawn

With Torterra

[swift swan]

Debuffs attack every time she gets hit, raises attack by the same amount

[verbal karma]

but she can't decrease attack

[main crow]

She can

[mellow linden]

Read her passives

[verbal karma]

oh yeah

Power Syphon

I forgot

anyway, I have now decided on my R1 Drake team

Blaine/SS Serena/Dawn

[swift swan]

Your params defy quite a lot from the recommended one though. And doesn't support your team comp either

[verbal karma]

that good?

[mellow linden]

Should be fine

[swift swan]

Yes

Much overkill, with ss serena there

[keen jasper]

SS Serena will destroy Drake even before she syncs

[swift swan]

Restrain counts as a status change anyway

[verbal karma]

I mean, I am doing Master Mode

[toxic cobalt]

All 8 pinned params have both shields

[verbal karma]

going with Pre-Sync params except "No Stat Reduction" is replaced with "Max HP ^2"

so overkill might just be what I need

[austere quest]

Okay I killed Glacia before her First Sync anyways

It seems like it was not good to challenge her R3

[swift swan]

Yes. Wrote it on pins

[main crow]

Yeah nah R3 Glacia is

She can open up the battle with 3 blizzards

[austere quest]

Wait was that what you were talking about?

[keen jasper]

Unless it misses

[main crow]

Who coded that pattern still

[austere quest]

I figured that out ages ago! I thought you were talking about something else

[swift swan]

The recommended parameter on pins I was talking about was the one posted by Dreamy. Scroll down a bit

[austere quest]

Someone said to fight her in R4 instead and I fought Drake and then argued a bit

[swift swan]

Team pinpoint entry 2 says hi

[austere quest]

THOSE ARE THE SAME PARAMETERS I USED

I LITERALLY HAD THE SAME PARAMETERS WITH TWO DIFFERENCES

[swift swan]

A Glacia stan who's tired of seeing Glacia slander

[austere quest]

Or three

[swift swan]

And those make quite a lot of differences

[austere quest]

Oops caps lock was on there

Apologies

[toxic cobalt]

Difference is bad

Unless it's strength

[austere quest]

Too true

[swift swan]

Also, it doesn't matter if you copy the exact same parameter but have a team that doesn't support it

[sand karma]

Oh my effing god Phoebe just oneshot fantina with earthquake immediately as soon as I started post sync r1

[swift swan]

Like, you won't use a poison stall team with presync parameters

[verbal karma]

nope

this team isn't working out

[toxic cobalt]

This is why we never postsync

[verbal karma]

sure, they can survive Drake's sync

[austere quest]

All I learned is that I found use HP instead of Defence and that Shields are fine because Crits are good

[verbal karma]

but then Drake's Outrage insta-kills Dawn

[swift swan]

Reject postsync, go back to hyperoffensive presync with first nuke clears

[verbal karma]

and then Drake's Waterfall insta-kills Blaine

[sand karma]

You mean i can't die any faster pre sync ?

Jk I'll try

[swift swan]

HP is preferable over defense if you want to deal actually good damage

Although a more universal param would be strength

[sand karma]

But i need time to set up fantinas sp def drops

[verbal karma]

was replacing "No Stat Reduction" with "Max HP ^2" really a bad idea after all?

[swift swan]

But you'll also kill them faster than if you postsync, due to the parameters

[swift swan]

Ss serena couldn't presync?

She should be able to

[verbal karma]

Serena could sync multiple times, but that wasn't enough to nuke Drake

[toxic cobalt]

Yes, add strength

[swift swan]

How many syncs could you pull off

[verbal karma]

I think 2?

[swift swan]

Also, make sure Drake is restrained

2 syncs is more than enough for zerena to presync the stage

[verbal karma]

ah...wait, restrain?

like, I know Thousand Waves can do that, but

[swift swan]

Yes, she has restrain multipliers

You want to use that at least once

[verbal karma]

oh, huh, she really does

I never noticed that

[keen jasper]

And she has Soften Up too

[swift swan]

At 3/5

[sand karma]

Fantina damage is not nice

[swift swan]

Mine's 3/5 and she just OHKO's drake on first sync like it's no one's business

[keen jasper]

What's your team with her?

[sand karma]

CCalem and BPMorty

[keen jasper]

No wonder, you don't have someone to lower Sp. Def.

[sand karma]

She has to do it herself

[keen jasper]

Fantina's Sp. Def. drop is unreliable

[formal vigil]

You have Lucian, ss Brendan or bede?

[austere quest]

Yeah I already have all the Strength Mods though which is why I needed to read there I guess

[sand karma]

I'm using the double on a roll grid

[austere quest]

Anyways 10k complete

[sand karma]

No

[austere quest]

Drake+Steven were all killed Pre-Sync

[keen jasper]

SST Red?

[austere quest]

I Ontyped Steven of course

[sand karma]

No

[austere quest]

Offtyped Drake

[formal vigil]

3/5 sswally

[sand karma]

No

[austere quest]

Frogs are very good

[sand karma]

2/5 need him for sidney anyway

[swift swan]

If you're doing full strength, most likely you have to postsync. Usually things like "no stat reduction" and "ally healing down" are picked too, to compliment it. If you need those, I normally pick up some HP and the goal of the battle is to survive while doing slow and steady damage

Instead of rushing buffs and dealing high 4 digit numbers with presync params

As a general rule of thumb, don't stack too much strength and attack together, the opponent will hit too hard. And don't stack defense and strength together unless you're stalling. In fact, don't pick up defense at all unless you're stalling or you want to do challenge clears

[verbal karma]

alright, with R1 done, who to pick for R2?

[solemn pine]

[swift swan]

Any team with support EX

Don't postsync R2

[verbal karma]

dw, I won't

[sand karma]

How to defeat Phoebe when you cant even live to second sync

[verbal karma]

I only have two

SS Blue and Skyla

[sand karma]

Cobalt Steel where are you

[swift swan]

Oh, both are good

[solemn pine]

[verbal karma]

alright, in that case

[swift swan]

Idk if you're planning to slot either of them on any of your teams though

[verbal karma]

R2 Glacia, R3 Phoebe and R4 Sidney

that good?

[swift swan]

Be careful with R3 phoebe, shadow ball is gonna hit like a truck

[verbal karma]

ah, I was suggested R3 for Phoebe instead of R1

[swift swan]

Imo Sidney is less threatening R3

Just because the stage is more physical oriented

Compared to phoebe

[solemn pine]

[keen jasper]

Hmmm, that's a hard one

[verbal karma]

Glacia is good for R2, right?

if yes, then I'd have Flyhan, SS Hilda and EX Skyla for that team

would that be good?

[swift swan]

R2 opponent doesn't matter as long as you don't postsync there

[verbal karma]

dw, I'm not

anyway, team itself is good?

[swift swan]

It's just that R2 benefits your EX support

[swift swan]

Looks good

[verbal karma]

ah, thanks

[swift swan]

Gotta go to sleep now, good luck with your clear

[verbal karma]

hhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Skyla dies too quickly

way before the enemy sync even happens

[iron oar]

I'm regretting using my ash on E4 w/o a good Ground DMG dealer

[sand karma]

Did R1 Phoebe with Cerena CCalem Fantina

Good god

Didn't feel like an offtyoe

Fantinas sync needed all the help even with complete setup

Had to reset so many times

[astral crane]

Did I mention that I hate Hoenn

[potent wadi]

How can I improve this team?

[turbid temple]

How tf do you beat Sidney lmao most trouble I’ve had with 2,000 since I first got the game 😭

[sand karma]

Yo thanks a lot for this
I couldnt finish them with one sync it didn't crit on eiscue ffs but two more overheats one on Glacia and boop

[turbid temple]

Beat it but had to resort to double Pikachu

[keen jasper]

He's vulnerable to debuffs

[turbid temple]

Not vulnerable enough 💀

[iron oar]

Nook with SSWally

[summer flare]

Had a pretty f2p friendly run with drake r1

It used 1/5 piers, Roxanne and Cyrus EX

Presync parameters, but it was actually done after drake synced

I think Phoebe won't be doable

Uh, nevermind

Post sync round 2 with Morty Ex, misty and Sonia EX barely done it

[sand karma]

This is the first week I've done 3 presync clears

[sand karma]

Once again thank you so much for this
Took me an hour of retries for the gauge issues and had to change lucky skills from super duper effective to super powered to weathered warrior

And +10 speed

[peak stirrup]

Is there a better support than SS Blue for Round 3 Sidney with Diantha and SS Wally?

[summer flare]

Even with a 30k aoe sync from silver, I couldn't beat glacia this time

How much hp does she even have?

[void wyvern]

25k without Mm

[grim island]

Would Ice offtype (Candice 5/5 - Hala 3/5 EX- SS Blue 3/5 EX) or psychic offtype (Bianca 2/5 - SS Steven 2/5 EX - Sabrina 4/5) pass for round 3 Drake 2k presync?

[summer flare]

I still feel like fire on type needs some investment

Silver pulls off, but he still needs multiple tries to pull things off

[sinful garden]

The psychic one will probably work

[white gale]

we get repeated weaknesses to fairy, fire and ghost for next week's CS?

why do you think DeNA didn't vary that up a little?

[summer flare]

Trying to sell stuff

That said, the strategy might work at the end of the day

[white gale]

ghost - ANniLillie, fire - AnniN.... but fairy -/- Anni Steven. wht happened?

[summer flare]

Wait, when does NY Lisia release?

Anyways

This week didn't have major shakeups

Round 1 Drake with Piers, Roxanne and CyrusEX

Round 2 Phoebe with SoniaEX, Misty and MortyEX

Round 3 Glacia with HilbertEX, Blaine and SilverEX

Round 4 Sydney with SS KrisEX, Lucian and Sycamore

Champion with IngoEX, Courtney and CynthiaEX

[spring fable]

Is johto one of the easier regions?

[civic trellis]

Everything except sinnoh and hoenn is easy

[trail smelt]

Second oldest so yes way easier than Sinnoh and Hoenn

[zealous karma]

Replace Roxanne with a spdef debuffer/ mind games Viola

[verbal karma]

alright, with R2 done

R3 Phoebe or R3 Sidney?

[old orchid]

R3 benefits special attackers so it depends on who you are gonna use

[swift swan]

Sidney is less threatening imo

Phoebe's shadow ball will hit super hard on R3

[void wyvern]

Sidney’s only special attack is water pulse.

The sides have a few fun stuff too

[swift swan]

Also, Phoebe has high offensive stats, Sidney doesn't

[verbal karma]

alright, so for R3 Sidney, I assume Sycamore/Palentine's Dawn/Valerie is good?

[swift swan]

wouldn't call Valerie good, ever

I don't have pal dawn, let me check what she does

[void wyvern]

Fake tears charm ripple effect

She does not provide much anything for this team

[swift swan]

seems like you need a crit buffer

[verbal karma]

I mean, I only have 2 Fairy-type strikers

[swift swan]

replace Valerie with an AOE crit buffer

so that Sycamore can also do some damage with moonblast

[verbal karma]

so, like, Sycamore/Palentine's Dawn/Falkner?

[void wyvern]

Start with that,

[old orchid]

Man people are ignoring Mina

[void wyvern]

Mina is tough on Sidney.

Without champ Iris and/or solid support ex with adren I don’t think Mina does the job.

[swift swan]

i sadly gave up on Mina too for Hoenn

sidney is just too bulky

[old orchid]

iirc someone did Sycamore Mina Hop team

[void wyvern]

Only 15k on second sync mina.

[verbal karma]

nope, that team isn't working out

[void wyvern]

What goes wrong?

[verbal karma]

I can't nuke Sidney fast enough until he does his own sync, and when he does that, both Palentine's Dawn and Falkner die

[void wyvern]

Trying to kill Sidney before sync without sS wally or bede is hell.

Is falkner ex’d?

[verbal karma]

nope

[swift swan]

with Falkner, you can potentially fish for flinches so you get extra damage in

preventing him from syncing for as long as possible

[verbal karma]

I...kinda need to use Falkner's Fly, though

just to keep him alive for long enough

[void wyvern]

The enemy can’t hit if you their flinched

Also if the enemy is 2 shotting you. This also might be a parameter issue.

[old orchid]

Dont use Fly

If you sync with Sycamore first grid him Adrenaline

To ensure quad queue

Tank with Sycamore too

[verbal karma]

dw, I did

[verbal karma]

heck, I have Falkner as the tank, though

[old orchid]

Never click Fly

[verbal karma]

because I kinda need Sycamore's Moon Blast for non-sync nuking

[old orchid]

In CS

[void wyvern]

Fly is situational not the constant.

[old orchid]

It ruins your queue

So use Fly only after the mid dies

To avoid aoe

[dark osprey]

Maybe get Cobalion instead of Falkner for defense buffs.

I think you would need to lower special attack as well of Sidney to survive the sync

Moonblasts could do that

[void wyvern]

Sidney doesn’t have brainpower or a special sync

[dark osprey]

Maybe only for his dps then

Furious brain or something

[void wyvern]

That’s right.

[molten nimbus]

This sounds so wrong lmao

Sidney doesn't have brainpower

Also yeah he has full physical but his passives are all special attack based

[void wyvern]

Not 100% full physical

He has water pulse and post mega dark pulse

[marsh vault]

Are the replays only available from your friends list?

Or random?

I wanted to show off my starters only runs for master mode to the public replay lol

[swift swan]

probably random as it's the commonly used teams

[zealous karma]

Where is the CS replay I can’t find it

[marsh vault]

Dam

[dark osprey]

theres some new icon on the screen that shows your team for the battle

[swift swan]

you need to go into the battle screen, there's an icon on the right side

meaning, if you've done CS, you need to reset

[sand karma]

They're useless anyway
All Lillies, Hildas, Zerenas

[dark osprey]

lol yeah

[marsh vault]

I did starter omly

[keen jasper]

Is there like a search bar for a specific name of a player?

[marsh vault]

So not so useless but too bad it doesn't let you see the less viable teams

[dark osprey]

nothing yet

[dark osprey]

forgot the pikachus

[void wyvern]

Forgot frogs

[dark osprey]

oh yeah. newcomers

actually the lillies & Hildas are kinda on the lower end

[void wyvern]

It’s just whatever glue works

[dark osprey]

at least they could randomize the teams that show. I've been seeing the same teams yesterday & today

[molten nimbus]

He almost never uses it lol and it's the least of your concerns

[void wyvern]

Considering without premium fairy units at high move level, it’s likely you’re going post sync. So I disagree with this.

[tired sleet]

Does CS Replays show how many Master Mode Points they got? If not, seems kinda useless

[swift swan]

supposedly, yes. at least, according to the letter

[mild hemlock]

Is your game not updated?

[zealous karma]

I thought you weren’t allowed to play if it wasn’t updated but I remember doing the update

Am I wrong for thinking thy lodge units shouldn’t be considered F2P?

[old orchid]

i think only the lodge alts of f2p pairs not counting gen pool are considered f2p

like Blue, Silver, Sycamore and Rosa

[molten nimbus]

For me since I spammed sleep with delphox and Karen as nuke
He only used one move post sync

[zealous karma]

But I feel like you can’t guarantee someone has those the same way you can guarantee someone has a 3-4* unit

Lodge takes me like 2-3 weeks to finish a character

[old orchid]

yeah

[zealous karma]

But I also saw lodge Lillie used for an F2P run

I barely have. Base Lillie lel

[manic mica]

glacia 2k is fucking pain

[zealous karma]

Do you have silver?

[manic mica]

yeah its pure rng at this point

5 times in a row AI chose blizzard first

[zealous karma]

Do you have silvers expansion grid I was able to beat this stage with an F2P team

[old orchid]

boosted Silver can pre sync Glacia in first sync

[manic mica]

i do

pls share

so i can double pikachu steven

he deserves it

[zealous karma]

Hmm maybe I haven’t done it for hoenn

I thought i did

But silver Blaine skyla should work

[manic mica]

,,,

i already used skyla

uwaaaa

[zealous karma]

Roxanne can maybe work

[old orchid]

Silver Blaine Marley

[manic mica]

i also already used roxanne LMAO

ill try marley

[old orchid]

grid X Speed All Pep Rally on Marley

[manic mica]

cs2 or ww on silver

[zealous karma]

Dauntless if overheat

CS2 if just plan on sacred fire

[manic mica]

I DID IT

holy shit

thanks guys

wtf update

[full mesa]

Ww3 is better than CS2.

[void wyvern]

not me crying because I got SP3 instead of Ww3 on silver

[keen jasper]

[grand trout]

Do we know what is next month's CS?

[main crow]

Johto

It's pinned btw

[grand trout]

Oh an easy one then

I hope we get kalos soon

[main crow]

Next month I hope

[keen jasper]

Kalos CS on Kalos VA part 2

[main crow]

If Sinnoh can get 3 E4 members in one month then I'm sure Kalos can get 1 more next right? Right???

[swift swan]

Exactly

Kalos VA, coping rn

[trail smelt]

I’d be surprised if they don’t add it on February

[sand karma]

After finishing cs on Monday itself

[void wyvern]

Try challenge runs

[verbal karma]

yeah, no

I absolutely NEED Falkner to use Fly

otherwise, he dies way before Sidney even does his Sync attack

okay, no, Sycamore/Palentine's Dawn/Falkner is simply not working out

trying to use Sycamore as a makeshift non-sync Fairy nuke is simply not working out

[dark osprey]

If Hop is free, might as well get him instead of Falkner

[old orchid]

Tried BP Surge / Mina / Sycamore. With pre sync set. The team could survive the sync but sides hit too hard

I think an EX support would make this team able to pre sync

Do you have lodge lillie btw?

[verbal karma]

not yet

[old orchid]

Do you think you can get her before next week?

[swift swan]

Could you possibly flinch sidney?

[verbal karma]

Nope

[verbal karma]

Replacing Falkner with Hop worked, though

Anyway, R4 for Phoebe

[verbal karma]

Hmm...aside from Renegade Cynthia, who else to add to the team? Fantina? Morty? And what about the support?

[old orchid]

A mixed defense support like Roxanne

Phoebe uses both physical and special moves

[swift swan]

SSRC and Morty wreck the stage quick enough for me. My support was Red but he couldn't do jack shit because he kept getting killed before or right after first sync, ruining my queues

Speaking of renegade cynthia, time your ghost zone correctly because it will actively power up phoebe too

[old orchid]

Me using ghost rebuff

[swift swan]

I forgot I own a rebuff unit now

Being ss hilbert

...oh wait, I have cerena too, for a few hours now

[old orchid]

What I hate about SS Hilbert is only able to apply rebuff ontype

[swift swan]

They can't make early rebuff units too broken I suppose

[old orchid]

Wally is already broken

Rebuff and zone in an unit

[swift swan]

Big W

And now his base unit is getting powerboost too

[old orchid]

A meme powerboost you mean?

Well actually only the +50 hp node is a meme

He can ramp up faster now

[swift swan]

He got better self sufficiency, at least

[sand karma]

Will he get better than Bea?

[verbal karma]

okay, so Roxanne/Renegade Cynthia/Morty, that correct?

[swift swan]

You can try that out

What move level is cynthia?

[old orchid]

Tbh i would use Fantina over Morty

She is so good now

[swift swan]

Probably need to wait for damage calcs, if it's not updated yet

If you can nuke down mid quickly enough with ssr cynthia, you can abuse her and morty's two-turn moves to avoid AOEs

That's basically how I won my battle lol

[old orchid]

He doesnt gain any new dps multipliers so dps wise he still isnt better than Bea

Dunno about nuke tho

[swift swan]

Speaking of their two-turn moves. Don't click on them until mid is dead

[swift swan]

Speedster sync 5 is what he gets, it seems

[old orchid]

Bea has CS5 right?

[swift swan]

CS3 on passive, yup

[verbal karma]

2/5

[swift swan]

Oof, no nuke tiles yet

[old orchid]

Just checked the dmg doc

Both Wally moves are better than Nea

a bit

While Bea outnukes him as usual

[swift swan]

Bea's nuke is also easier to set up

[verbal karma]

okay, I think I will go with Roxanne/Renegade Cynthia/Fantina instead, considering how I have Fantina gridded

[old orchid]

Fantina is the better choice anw

[swift swan]

Be careful when you set up ghost zone

And don't click shadow force until mid is down

Just reset if you get hit by too many AOEs

Also, can Roxanne give crit at all?

If not, Fantina needs 3 turns to max her crit

[old orchid]

She has Sharp Entry 1

[verbal karma]

This isn't working out

[verbal karma]

And this is why

Too many damn AOEs, even with resets

[agile drum]

@summer flare

did the Mina clear, I wanted it to be easy to replicate so i went for surviving syncs

Mina can live 2

params: str 11, -2 sync cd, ally healing, gradual healing, barriers and no status

ss blue syncs first, can be replaced by Aaron or Sonia EX most likely