Champion Stadium

[old orchid]

She will die before it proccing

And the sides even have Iron Head

[verbal karma]

both she and Anni Skyla died, but I still could somehow bull bull**** my way through long enough to win

all thanks to Dark Pulse being able to flinch

[keen jasper]

So who's next now?

[verbal karma]

Drake

now that I have a team of physical freezers decided

(and Skyla)

just gotta turn off "No Status Conditions" for this one battle

[manic mica]

how can I kill 4 th level damn i don't have good flying type Pokemons 😭😭

[keen jasper]

Do you have Darach?

[verbal karma]

why am I at a constant shortage of sync orbs?

[manic mica]

i have only blue pidgeot & skyla

[keen jasper]

Because you constantly use them?

[verbal karma]

I didn't have sync orbs shortage problems, like, 3 months ago

or was it 2?

[keen jasper]

I guess Blue will work, just remember to buff his accuracy with his TM

Because Sidney has evasion buff

[manic mica]

Who should I use with Skyla, blue pidgeot ?? third member

[keen jasper]

What move level is your Blue?

[manic mica]

1/5😭

[keen jasper]

Then he's unusable

[manic mica]

Skyla at 3/5

[keen jasper]

Which Skyla?

[manic mica]

so at what point is he usable

[keen jasper]

Probably when he's 3/5

Show me your other flying types

[manic mica]

one min

[manic mica]

those r my partner for now

[mellow linden]

Asked if they have Darach

Says they only have Blue

Has Darach

[keen jasper]

I think Lysandre will be your best bet

[mellow linden]

Bruh

[steel kelp]

Look darach = blue

Duh

[old orchid]

Remember to bring a spdef buffer because Sidney hits really hard

[keen jasper]

Wait, Sidney's sync is special?

[manic mica]

oh now i got it didn't know all members name playing since 2 weeks gonna take little time to know all about

[mellow linden]

Fair. Not really even upset or anything, I just thought it was funny

[verbal karma]

damn, guess I have to go Post-Sync for Drake instead of Pre-Sync

[molten nimbus]

any recommended team comp for r4 sidney?

[keen jasper]

Do you have Darach?

[molten nimbus]

ye

[keen jasper]

Move level?

[molten nimbus]

lemme checl

should be sufficient iirc

[molten nimbus]

nvm it's just 1

i fr thought i pulled more of him

[keen jasper]

Show me your flying types

[keen jasper]

Zinnia might be your best option here

[molten nimbus]

how do you use her

i kept falling miserably

[keen jasper]

Sync with her first to have Dragon Ascent then sync with your EX support next

[molten nimbus]

also is nate ok?

[keen jasper]

His DPS is trash

[molten nimbus]

my support cant really tank long enough 🤔

[keen jasper]

Sidney's sync is special

[molten nimbus]

yea ik

[keen jasper]

Can I see your supports?

[molten nimbus]

they barely survived it with +4 from bp clemont lol

hold on

tried Ingo/Chomp cynthia/BP Clemont
almost got him but didnt

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pvBfoFWc6hdhu6vLBsDrhmfBAxTS6TPDPosnGaE-xdQ/https/tinyurl.com/5e8h6eap?width=711&height=662

using a slight variation of 2k pre sync

maybe i should change it to post sync?

[formal vigil]

Have you tried using blue?

[molten nimbus]

almost again

[molten nimbus]

didnt go well with lodge elessa/sycamore

man fuck bullet seed ignoring endurance entirely

sidney never misses even with -2

just needed 1 miss to win

[spring fable]

how do i do 2k without dying too fast / dealing too little dmg?

[mellow linden]

Teambuilding and choosing the right parameters for the team

[spring fable]

if i barely managed 1.5k, what are the odds i can do 2k?

[molten nimbus]

dont bother

assuming right parameter

[spring fable]

sadge

[mellow linden]

Not sure how possible it would be. Nothing wrong with sticking with 1.5k per stage until your roster is built up some more, the difference between 1.5k and 2k is basically nonexistent in terms of rewards

[molten nimbus]

^

[spring fable]

ah the entices me

[swift swan]

it's all a matter of getting used to it. 7.5k is a quite huge jump from 4.2k, especially because you're doing Hoenn

Sinnoh followed by Hoenn is a menace for new players trying to get high CSMM points

[molten nimbus]

i used my best team against glacia

cause she was the hardest

[swift swan]

try doing 7.5k in Kanto or Johto. you'll find it extremely easy by a landslide

problem is, I have a feeling we're getting Kalos soon

[molten nimbus]

kalos as easy as the mainline game pls

[swift swan]

teambuilding, setting up your damage dealer as quickly as possible, picking parameters comfortable for you

[swift swan]

never. let DeNA redeem Kalos. make Diantha so hard I'll regret ever trashing on her. I dare you

[mellow linden]

Just know that if they do Sentry Entry x2 Psychic weak for anyone I blame you

[verbal karma]

damn

no matter if Presync or Postsync

my team against Drake cannot survive the Earthquake after the first sync attack

[swift swan]

time for tate to shine!

[swift swan]

did you get rid of the sandstorm/change the weather?

drake hits way too hard when sandstorm is up

[tame barn]

What are the best affixes to get 10k altogether?

[mellow linden]

There's some recommended parameters in pins, and you can adjust them as needed for your team (for example, swapping "No Status Conditions" or "No Stat Reductions" with something else if your team relies on a status or debuffs)

If this is your 1st time doing Master Mode in general it might be better for you to start with 850 points per stage (4250 total) since that's where all the important rewards are

[verbal karma]

I did, and Earthquake still insta-kills

[spring fable]

i'll be honest, ive been blindly copying the post sync params

[mellow linden]

As long as you’re adjusting them as necessary that’s fine

[swift swan]

yup, for example I never follow the presync params on pins

[mellow linden]

I’ve been doing post-Sync parameters with adjustments when needed pretty much exclusively

A lot of the time I can even KO the center pre-Sync regardless

[swift swan]

my presync param involves all attacks, all PoH, and thus as little strength as possible. since I trust my supports can handle the slaughter of attacks or set up fast enough so my damage dealers can quickly destroy the stage

but I would never recommend my own params to others. use the one on pins as a guide and tweak it when needed

[swift swan]

what's the team? and which round is this?

[mellow linden]

I almost feel like it’s a parameter issue. Earthquake doesn’t even do half to my Candice, and while she is EX and likely a higher level those differences shouldn’t matter as long as she’s 120 or higher

[verbal karma]

R3 Drake

my team is Wulfric/Candice/Skyla

[frosty axle]

Ye unless earthquake crits she doesn't get hit hard

[mellow linden]

That team…doesn’t really have that great synergy

Why Wulfric of all Sync Pairs? Tbh I’d rather just deal with the Wise Entry and use Ghetsis over him

[frosty axle]

also missing crit/attack to get Abomasnow hitting hard quickly

using tm is 4 turns (less with skyla)

[verbal karma]

my previous planned team was even worse: Pryce/BP Candice/Glacia

[molten nimbus]

ok still stuck

thinking of redoing the entire CS

[mellow linden]

Well yes, that team is also not great, but at least there’s more synergy

[frosty axle]

I prefer using Zamazenta, Kyurem Cold snap and Abomasnow

[mellow linden]

Was about to say, might legitimately be better to do Hop/Candice/Ghetsis

[frosty axle]

or Glacia instead of Zamazenta

[swift swan]

yeahhhh I wouldn't recommend Wulfric

[verbal karma]

...can I replace Ghetsis with someone else?

[swift swan]

he's just bad tbh

[mellow linden]

Why?

[swift swan]

Ghetsis works just fine for me

[mellow linden]

Wouldn’t you have him built

[verbal karma]

I don't like Ghetsis...like, at all

[swift swan]

so fucking true

[mellow linden]

Sometimes you have to level a Sync Pair you have but don’t particularly care for

[swift swan]

Ghetsis is a very valid option. candice works too but requires more offensive set-up

[mellow linden]

A day is gonna come where Ghetsis is your only option to succeed, might as well just put in the investment now

[frosty axle]

I use pairs I don't like often

[swift swan]

if you don't have Hala (who's also very annoying to use for DPS and wants 3/5 for good nuke), either use Ghetsis, Candice, or just offtype it

[verbal karma]

I have Hala, but he's only 1/5

[mellow linden]

Could just off-type if need be, yeah

1/5 Hala should work

[frosty axle]

One I don't like is Crabominable but makes drake easy

[verbal karma]

oh?

[mellow linden]

Would likely wanna adjust who the Support is though

[swift swan]

1/5 Hala means you have to rely on his DPS which debuffs his speed a lot

you can bring a speed buffer but it's counterintuitive with his passive

Hala wants the speed debuffs

but you can't even consistently use his 4-bar move with all the speed debuffs he gets

[mellow linden]

Gauge accel is usually the way to go with Hala

[verbal karma]

I need to somehow salvage this

[mellow linden]

He’s 1/5, grid doesn’t matter. Like, at all

[swift swan]

He needs a really good gauge support. and tbh with the very low base speed, I'm still not confident with DPS Hala

[frosty axle]

you need pairs who buff their own speed and has high base speed

[mellow linden]

I guess grab all the Attack, Speed, and Ice Hammer base power tiles you can if you want

[verbal karma]

okay, Hop/Candice/Hala then

[frosty axle]

Candice is nice with hasty hail

[swift swan]

if you're dead set on not using Ghetsis (which saves a LOT of headache, btw. I fought R4 Drake with ghetsis just fine), it's better to offtype tbh

[mellow linden]

No, gauge will not exist

And Hala and Candice can buff their own Attack anyways (and Candice doesn’t need crit buffs because she can get Sure Crit from Hail Follow-Through)

[frosty axle]

Hasty hail and free attacks on Zamazenta should be enough, maybe

Usually I use Samurott

[mellow linden]

I’d really not recommend risking the lack of gauge support, but if you think it’s worth trying

[swift swan]

well, crits on the ice punch can help

[mellow linden]

Fair

[verbal karma]

damn, Candice STILL dies to one single Earthquake after the first sync attack

even when it does NOT crit

[frosty axle]

How?

give a screenshot

[solemn pine]

God I never thought that cs would make me hate half syncs so much

[verbal karma]

hold on, am trying to recreate it, but now Candice dies to the sync attack itself, too

DAMN

[swift swan]

we all do

[verbal karma]

now Candice dies even BEFORE Drake does his sync

what's going on here?!

[formal vigil]

are the enemies spamming too many aoe moves?

[lunar meadow]

Half sync is by far the hardest 2k modifier

In 1.5, it wasn't as bad

[frosty axle]

are you getting your defenses near max with Zamazenta?

[solemn pine]

Do people find the champions in cs usually easier then the elite fours?

[swift swan]

most of the time that's the case, yes

the champion just rarely has insane gimmicks

[solemn pine]

Because I had alot of trouble with drake and Sidney this week regardless of rounds

Phoebe was surprisingly easy for me, since I have ss cyrus

[swift swan]

tbh if the main problem is your damage dealer dying to sync (or after), presyncing is the better option pretty sure she should be able to nuke Drake down if set up properly and with proper quadqueue?

[main crow]

Nope you're not the only one

E4 has consistently been more a hurdle than the champion themselves

The only one I would say in the slightest a hurdle would probably be Fairy weak Cynthia and Poison weak Wallace

[verbal karma]

nope, not able to nuke

like, at all

she can only remove, like, a little bit more than half of Drake's health before he syncs, even on Presync settings

[mellow linden]

What level is she and what grid does she have?

[verbal karma]

Candice is at Level 120

[mellow linden]

Candice should be able to easily Sync nuke Drake, might have to do 2 Syncs with no Support EX though

[solemn pine]

Damn

Im stuck with using characters above level 130 min to be safe

[verbal karma]

and this is her grid

[mellow linden]

120 should be fine

[verbal karma]

she has both Ramming Speed and Inertia

[mellow linden]

You’ll want to replace that top right section with Heavy Hail

Ramming Speed only affects regular moves

[keen jasper]

That is the wrong grid

Don't even bother with her DPS

You can freeze with Candice sure, but don't rely on her DPS

[verbal karma]

okay, replaced Ramming Speed with Super Preperation and Heavy Hail

[swift swan]

yup, this

[keen jasper]

Candice can defeat Drake at 2k

[verbal karma]

damn, even with Super Preperation and Heavy Hail, I still do the same amount of damage

[mellow linden]

Yeah, no. That would have to be lack of crit if that happened

[solemn pine]

Oh, how many regions has there been for cs? Only joined around this anniversary

[mellow linden]

Every region who has at least one character in Masters has a CS except Kalos and Galar

[solemn pine]

Oh

Right kalos is missing Drasna

[civic trellis]

Malva as well

[main crow]

Datamine possibly tomorrow let's hope for Kalos CS

[solemn pine]

Although I wonder how they would do galar for cs, due to the way pokemon sword and shield did the elite four

[mellow linden]

Probably a rotation method like Alola, Unova, and Sinnoh Hoenn

[main crow]

Prob rotates the leaders to correspond to type weaknesses if I had to guess

Once we get them all anyways we're still missing some

[mellow linden]

Hala/Molayne and Hau/Kukui rotate in Alola, Alder and Iris rotate in Unova, and Steven and Wallace rotate in Hoenn (I realize my earlier typo, fixing it now)

[solemn pine]

Ah

[verbal karma]

her crit rate was maxed, though

[main crow]

Max crit only guaranteed for normal moves

[swift swan]

how much did she deal, exactly?

numbers-wise

[main crow]

Sync crit at 3+ is like 80%

So there's still a chance for crit not hitting

[mellow linden]

Sync moves have innate -1 crit rate, yeah

[keen jasper]

I wonder if Cerena dealing in the range of 40k against dark-weak Phoebe is accurate

IK that she has Sentry Entry x2, but is that range correct at max HP, defense and strength parameters?

[reef sierra]

man Im still having a hard time witb drake i cant even offtype this

almost with ash tho but the eq spam ruins that last part

[swift swan]

you can probably use the damage calculator in pomatools to check that

[keen jasper]

What's the 2nd fill in box that you type in the numbers?

[onyx ice]

Pick hail follow through, it will ensure crit for the sync

[verbal karma]

sadly don't have enough energy for that

[onyx ice]

I always pick that

[verbal karma]

like I said, I don't have enough energy left for that

I'd have to sacrifice either Inertia or Heavy Hail, and sacrificing any of the two is not an option

[onyx ice]

Heavy hail isn't that a big of a multiplier

[verbal karma]

I was told that it is a big multiplier

[mellow linden]

You can get Heavy Hail, Inertia, Hail Follow-Through, and Trainer Move Super Preparation

Would have to give up Hasty Hail and a Sync base power tile over your current grid though, so since iirc you’re trying Hop as the Support rn it might be better to just deal with the chance of needing to reset due to lack of crit

Though I will admit Heavy Hail isn’t as big of a modifier as I thought (though it’s still better than the grid you had before; Ramming Speed is pointless if you’re running Candice for Sync nuke, which you currently are). I thought it was Heavy Hail 5 (iirc a +50% modifier), it’s actually only Heavy Hail 2 (iirc a +20% modifier)

[onyx ice]

On top of inertia and potentially ww3 lucky skill it changes from 130% to 150% bonus

It's like +8% final damage

[verbal karma]

yeah, I sadly have to deal with RNG related to the MPR of Hop's TM already...

since Candice can't reach full crit rate by natural means

[long thicket]

I'm gonna guess I need special defense buff because Sidney's sync one shots Lugia.

Alright, I won with a Skyla/Roxanne duo of supports.

Sidney lost while KOing Roxanne, and Roxanne lost first because the game's against you, I guess.

[long thicket]

The frogs were very good against Phoebe, although I almost had it with EX Masked Royale instead of Serena.

[rotund torrent]

How can I 2k the flying weak one by using anni Steven?

I have Classic red and all the general pool units too if u hav any suggestions

[verbal karma]

welp

Candice can get rid of Drake before he syncs, but

she still gets eradicated by the Earthquakes from the sides

what now?

[onyx ice]

Candice doesn't really need crit support, her DPS is negligible, and follow through is more than enough for her sync

The idea is to use her just for nuke and hail, and bring a more self sufficient dps

[verbal karma]

oh...damn, then I guess my team isn't good enough to begin with 😦

I am currently using Hala/Candice/Hop against R3 Drake

[onyx ice]

Offensive parameters?

Personally i used Hala + 6ex glacia + BP Candice (froslass)

If you have landorus, Candice has a better time strong her nuke

Hala can easily max his own stats

I mean, if i want this is always an option

[rotund torrent]

What team comp should I use to beat the flying weak stage? I’m currently using Sonia, ss steven, and masked Royale to lower physdefense, but they keep on dying immediately. What should I do

[verbal karma]

Pre-sync parameters

[onyx ice]

-2 Sync?

[verbal karma]

no, the 2000 Pre-Sync in this one: https://tinyurl.com/5e8h6eap

just with "No Status Conditions" removed for R3 Drake specifically

[onyx ice]

Normally i run strength 3 (or 4 if i need debuffs) and maximum attack up with -2 sync

Yes they hit harder, but the point is that the hit for less turns

Generally my strat is either 6ex support to kill the mid in 2 attacks max (post 6ex sync) or sync nuke strats

Expecially when I use the jolly teams

Like 6ex Kris + the greninjas

[verbal karma]

my only EX support that I have is SS Blue

[onyx ice]

Or 6ex SS steven

[verbal karma]

you really think Hala/Candice/SS Blue would be a better team?

[onyx ice]

I mean if you use Candice you don't need 6ex support

[verbal karma]

I am using Candice

[onyx ice]

Just go for Candice Nuke

[verbal karma]

problem is that even with Candice, I am losing

[onyx ice]

Because you are using strength +8

[verbal karma]

so swap out Strength ^6 with Max HP ^6 or what?

no wait

I can't swap out Strength ^6

that one is 600 points

yeah, no, Strength ^6 needs to stay

[onyx ice]

No, take strength 3, sync -2 and attack +5 3 1

Probably you can swap attack +1 for an extra sync -1 if Candice Nuke one shots the mid

For support if possible i would use Landorus

Or Hilbert

Just nuke the mid and DPS the sides with Hala

Don't give them unnecessary bulk

[verbal karma]

I already used up Hilbert

[verbal karma]

also, -2 sync is a bad idea

because Candice can only barely survive Drake's sync

and sometimes, not at all

[verbal karma]

yup, this was a bad idea

Candice instantly dies to Drake's sync

I am

going back to 2000 Pre-Sync!

[mellow linden]

If you’re doing pre-Sync then Drake shouldn’t be reaching his Sync

Hence the name “pre-Sync”

If the sides are an issue then you can use Hala’s Ice Hammer on the sides a few times before Drake goes down. 2 Candice nukes should be able to take down Drake with barely any help

[verbal karma]

I mean, with the regular Pre-Sync settings, Drake really does not reach his sync

the problem is that his sides quickly kill my team with Earthquake spam

it's why Ketsuban suggested me some kind of weird parameter set that included sync -2

[mellow linden]

That's why you can Ice Hammer the sides a few times (or exclusively)

[verbal karma]

problem: Hala dies soon after Candice does

[mellow linden]

I mean before Drake goes down

[verbal karma]

oh

I don't have the Move Gauge bar for that

[mellow linden]

Candice should be able to KO Drake with 2 Syncs with little to no help

[mellow linden]

Wait, so you don't have the gauge to be reliably using Ice Hammer?

[verbal karma]

ye

[mellow linden]

Then you can't use Hala

Simple as that

[verbal karma]

damn

who to use instead?

Wulfric?

[mellow linden]

Well, either that or you need to change up the Support

[verbal karma]

hmm...

[mellow linden]

Just get over it and level Ghetsis

You can Noble Roar the sides while Candice KOs Drake with Syncs

[verbal karma]

Noble Roar won't work

because I have "No Stat Reduction" turned on

[mellow linden]

Then turn it off and replace it with something else. Max HP 2 is usually a good replacement

And shouldn't impact things much, especially if you end up changing to an EX Support

[verbal karma]

Max HP 2 was never a good replacement for me no matter what

so no, "No Stat Reduction" stays

[mellow linden]

Then off-type or Poison stall

[verbal karma]

hmm...but who to off-type with?

[mellow linden]

If you're gonna refuse to use the options that will let you on-type, that's what you're left with

[verbal karma]

I only refuse Max HP 2 because I always lost when I used Max HP 2 instead of No Stat Reduction

it's why I gave up on Max HP 2 as the No Stat Reduction replacement

[mellow linden]

Considering how you seemed to not realize that there's no point to using Hala if he can't actually use his damage source I somehow doubt that's the parameter's fault

Besides, with Ghetsis your team's survivability increases dramatically

Well, "dramatically" is a possible exaggeration, but the point is that it boosts team survivability. Combine with a good Defense buffer and you should be fine

[toxic cobalt]

Ghetsis OP

[long thicket]

Wally's Focus Blast is great on Glacia.

Is she special damage weak?
I guess physical Fighting is where I need help, if so.

[mellow linden]

No entry passives on Glacia this week

If you have Bea she should be doing big damage

[long thicket]

I'll have to find a good team for him. Or Bea, but that's harder.

[mellow linden]

Bea is way easier to use than Wally though

[long thicket]

Bea overwhelms me, frankly.

[mellow linden]

Slap Hilbert on the team with her and she's all set to spam Meteor Mash and maybe Sync

[long thicket]

She's not EX while Wally is, is it fine?

[mellow linden]

Should be, Meteor Assault (not Mash, my bad) hits like a truck. Of course, if you like Wally more you're free to use him, but Bea means you're set for physical Fighting

[long thicket]

Only one 4 gauge move kinda scares me, especially with the restriction for this mode.

I feel like I'd need to build a team to compensate for that.

[mellow linden]

Speed buffs and/or gauge accel + Supports who aren't gauge-heavy is all you really need. I run Bea with SSA Cynthia and Fall Caitlin, but Hilbert + Skyla would be an option that works just fine

Hop + Skyla works too

[steel kelp]

It’ll only take like 2-3 meteor assaults to kill anyway

Maybe 4

[reef sierra]

I hate drake I hate drake

[thin pecan]

Does anyone have a team for the ice fight?

Basically impossible

[old orchid]

Candice

[thin pecan]

I tried

I used Leon

Just way too much damages in take

[old orchid]

Did you change the weather and buff defense?

[thin pecan]

Yeah

What’s an ideal team

Or what’s the best ability for this fight

[reef sierra]

Leon can survive if you up his defenses

[old orchid]

Leon and Candice can form a dual strike core

[reef sierra]

i used dawn because she is a phys tank with atk down

[old orchid]

The third would be an ex support with defense buffs at least

Candice has sure crit after using hail, she is the nuker here while Leon is the dps

[undone ether]

https://i.4cdn.org/vg/1671554366447929.png

Calem noice

[old orchid]

Weekly usage stat?

[undone ether]

from /vg/

3 Xmas Whitney

Ghetsis that low ooof

but Summer Steven and HLeon ;o

[old orchid]

Havent seen them in a while

[mellow linden]

Change the weather and Drake wants physical damage

Granted, Ash probably could still work, but it's usually better to avoid using special moves against an opponent with Wise Entry x2

But dude, change the weather

[reef sierra]

Oh i forgot to send this but yeah i won with this lol

Flinch chain with volkner works

[mellow linden]

If it works it works, I guess

[swift swan]

ash strikes again

[tired sleet]

Ofc he would strike again, he’s not a support or tech

[zealous karma]

I used this team and they even survived drake sync without def buffs so maybe they’re not hailing

[rigid flint]

Ash strikes back

[verbal karma]

hrrrmm...who would be a good off-type physical striker that wouldn't have move gauge problems?

[keen jasper]

Against who?

[verbal karma]

Drake

[keen jasper]

You're still struggling on Drake?

[verbal karma]

since my current team of Hala/Candice/Hop just isn't working out

yup

Candice can beat up Drake before he syncs, but then his sides just spam Earthquake, which neither Candice nor Hala can survive

[keen jasper]

Ok, why don't you try Candice, Ghetsis and Hop?

[verbal karma]

you talking about Noble Roar strats?

because I have "No Stat Reduction" on

[keen jasper]

Ye

[verbal karma]

with no intention of turning it off

[old orchid]

that team is able to clear Drake without much effort, maybe its parameter problem

[verbal karma]

well, I was told that the problem I am facing is that Hala can't spam Ice Hammer

[formal vigil]

Have you tried using ss blue over hop

[verbal karma]

which, yeah, he physically can't due to the Move Gauge -2 parameter

[keen jasper]

Use Candice's TMs

[formal vigil]

Or any guage support for that matter

[verbal karma]

I am

and I still can't spam Ice Hammer reliably

[old orchid]

Candice's TM costs gauge so dont touch it

[verbal karma]

oh, that

[old orchid]

use X Speed

[verbal karma]

no, I am not touching Candice's TM then

and sadly, I already used up X Speed at the beginning

to fully buff Candice's speed for Inertia

[old orchid]

i would record a run for you, but my Hala is already 5/5 and EXed

so i will write down my strat

Candice: Hail -> X Speed twice, then sync with her on the left side
Hala: TM -> Dire Hit+ or use Ice Hammer on left side
Hop: spam TM x3

[spring fable]

i used ss kris (could prolly replace with weather spatk buffer), ghetsis and skyla

but thats only against 1.5k

[old orchid]

the strat is quad queueing by taking down the side then quicky click a Candice's move

hail wont be up when Candice syncs the first so Hala does some meaningful damage on side

[swift swan]

would Candice's second sync be able to take out Drake though

maybe yes with some help from Hala's ice hammer but idk how reliable it is

[verbal karma]

oh, I kinda have to do X Speed twice and then Hail after

because otherwise, the Hail runs out before I can do Candice's sync

and when I use Hail, I can't use Ice Hammer

[old orchid]

yeah it boosts her nuke, but Drake can sneak in 2 sand boosted attacks

[verbal karma]

problem is: she kinda needs that boost to her nuke

[old orchid]

can save his DH+ when you are low on gauge

how is her nuke without hail on side?

[verbal karma]

because otherwise, even with Inertia, her sync hits like a wet towel

[old orchid]

have you tested yet?

[verbal karma]

oh...no, I haven't tested it on the sides specifically, only on Drake

since I kinda have to destroy Drake before he does his first sync

otherwise, she just won't survive

no matter if Pre-Sync settings or Post-Sync settings

[keen jasper]

I would save Hala's Ice Hammer after you sync with your EX support

Because it also has SEUN

[verbal karma]

oh yeah, you told me I should try using SS Blue instead of Hop

and luckily, I do have SS Blue EX'd

[keen jasper]

He's definitely better than Hop

[old orchid]

before using SS Blue, have you planned a team for Wallace yet?

[keen jasper]

Hala can one shot the sides with his Ice Hammer

[verbal karma]

not yet, actually

since I can't access Boss Details for him yet

all I know is that I wanna use a Psychic team of some sorts

[old orchid]

you can see his info on pomatools web

his gimmick is using toxic before sync

[verbal karma]

good thing I haven't used Sycamore yet

[old orchid]

Sycamore + Hop + Giovanni team is an easy win

[verbal karma]

I need to change my Sydney team, though

[old orchid]

you havent beaten Sidney?

[verbal karma]

not yet

I wanted to save Sydney for R4

[old orchid]

and do you have a plan for him?

[verbal karma]

well, I wanted to use Winona and regular Blue for attacking, but now that I know I should save Sycamore for Wallace, I don't have a support anymore

[keen jasper]

I know I've asked this before, but do you have Darach?

[old orchid]

the round 4 parameter is half sync reduc, so be careful with his sync since he hits REALLY hard

[verbal karma]

I do, but...his overreliance on Brave Bird makes me not wanna use him too much...

[verbal karma]

well, the idea here was to use the sync reduc in order to get Blue's Pidgeot to mega evolve faster

[keen jasper]

What move level is he?

[verbal karma]

3/5

[keen jasper]

Ah perfect

Since he has also evasion down on his grid, he can practically counter Sidney's gimmick

Too bad Sidney's sync is special, otherwise you can still destroy him with Darach

[verbal karma]

you mean Weigh Down 4? I have that!

[old orchid]

you still have to think about the team survivability

[keen jasper]

Defog will be enough to counter his X Evasion All, but the more the target's evasion is down, the stronger his sync will be

@verbal karma I would just his multipliers and Steadfast

[verbal karma]

ah, I already have Steadfast as well

[keen jasper]

That way Brave Bird won't be much of an issue

[keen jasper]

Let me see your grid on him

[verbal karma]

now that I think about it

[old orchid]

you didnt pick Pecking Order

[verbal karma]

my attempt to reach one of the yellows on the upper left side was futile

so might as well remove that for Pecking Order

[old orchid]

i recommend using this instead

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/15900/39800?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggKCw4VGBscHiEuLw

[keen jasper]

Why didn't you grid Easy Target?

[keen jasper]

Mine is the same except I don't have the sync power up nodes in replacement for Weigh Down 4

[keen jasper]

Also, -1 energy

[old orchid]

oh lol

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/15900/39800?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggLDhUYGRweIS4

fixed

[keen jasper]

This is my grid for him

[old orchid]

oh since you need Easy Target, i should grid Weight Down

[verbal karma]

alright, fixed Darach's Sync Grid

anyway, back to Drake: Hala/Candice/SS Blue it is, huh?

[keen jasper]

Yeah

[verbal karma]

okay

[keen jasper]

Try to weak the sides with Hala

Candice will nuke Drake

That's my strat

I easily handled Drake with EX Jasmine, Candice and Hala

[old orchid]

oh talking about your Sidney team, you use Darach with who?

[verbal karma]

sadly, Candice cannot use her sync before Drake does his sync

at least not with the new team I am using

[old orchid]

did you grid SS Blue Adrenaline 1?

[verbal karma]

I did

problem is just that I still have Move Gauge problems

[old orchid]

so why you couldnt sync twice before him

ummm why

[keen jasper]

If you have gauge problems, use a cheaper gauge move

[verbal karma]

Brick Break, got it

[keen jasper]

You can still survive a few hits from the Garchomps' EQs anyways

[old orchid]

did you grid TM Pep Rally on Blue?

[keen jasper]

That would counter Hala's multiplier

[verbal karma]

will have to check after my current attempt

[old orchid]

its just 10% increase, it doesnt matter much

[keen jasper]

Eh fine

[verbal karma]

nope, even when I do manage to Sync with Candice before Drake syncs

even when I use SS Blue's sync first

the best that Candice can do is remove half of Drake's HP with her sync

with Hail buff

with Inertia buff

[old orchid]

so focus on mid then

[verbal karma]

but if I do that, then his sides will kill me with Earthquake spam

[old orchid]

with Endurance you should be fine

after syncing with Candice and killing Drake, stop using Candice moves

attack the right first

[keen jasper]

Yeah, Hala will easily one-shot the sides

I've experienced firsthand using Hala and Candice

And I even have Jasmine as support, though that's because I'm not on the half sync round parameter

[old orchid]

since Drake sets up sand after syncing and sides have Shifting Sand increasing their evasion so it might take a few tries if rng isnt on your side

[verbal karma]

oof, even if I do that, Drake still has 1/4 of his health left before he does his sync

and sadly, Candice can only survive his sync, like, 50% of the time

[keen jasper]

Did you buff your defense?

[old orchid]

can you record your run pls?

[verbal karma]

I did, and still

[verbal karma]

sadly, I can't

[keen jasper]

S/He doesn't want to

[old orchid]

you failed because of gauge problem?

i think there is another problem

[verbal karma]

now I am failing because Candice simply can't survive reliably

[old orchid]

what parameters are you using?

try the post sync set

[verbal karma]

Pre-Sync 2000 without "No Status Conditions"

alright, will do

[keen jasper]

You are doing Drake in round 4 right?

[verbal karma]

nope

Round 3

[keen jasper]

Oh Round 3

If I had Blue, I can easily demonstrate it to you

Because like I said, I used Candice and Hala and easily destroyed Drake

[verbal karma]

yeah, but your Hala was 5/5 and EX'd

[old orchid]

maybe i will try to record a run

[verbal karma]

so maybe that's why

[keen jasper]

Mine is 5/5, but not EX-ed

And I only used Hala to take out the sides

[old orchid]

my Hala is also exed but i will run him gridless

to make up for it

[toxic cobalt]

Candice Ghetsis Skyla was my easy clear week 1

[verbal karma]

welp, even with Post-Sync, I can't win

can't beat Drake before his sync, and once he does his Sync, Candice is left with so little HP that the Sandstorm's chip damage kills her

yes, really

[old orchid]

do you want me to record a run?

[verbal karma]

I mean, if you want

[keen jasper]

They don't want to

[keen jasper]

If you record, it will definitely help us

[verbal karma]

nah, I am fine with other people recoding their runs

it's just that I can't record it

[keen jasper]

Why not?

[verbal karma]

because I have nothing to record my runs with

[old orchid]

maybe potato phone

[keen jasper]

Then why not install a recording app?

[verbal karma]

I am not installing some third party recording app I have never heard off just to try to record footage of me failing, with absolutely no guarantee I'd be able to even upload it onto Discord in the first place

[old orchid]

when i upload my run i will ping you, okay?

[verbal karma]

ok

[keen jasper]

You can upload it to YT, private the link and send it here

[old orchid]

i will post in my forum #1053291896778264597

[verbal karma]

I don't want to use Youtube, though

[keen jasper]

Compress the video

[verbal karma]

I have nothing to compress videos with

[keen jasper]

Then install a video compressor too

[verbal karma]

installing some third party recording app I have never heard off is already bad enough, and now you're telling me I should also install some third party video compressor app I have never heard off as well?

[keen jasper]

Are you afraid your phone might be infected or smth.?

[verbal karma]

yeah

[old orchid]

it might take a bit longer since round 1 is increasing gauge speed

i will record on round 2

[molten nimbus]

100mb upload limit

[keen jasper]

Assuming you use nitro

They don't

[molten nimbus]

nah pretty sure all the members in the server get it

[verbal karma]

that's also assuming the video would stay below 100MB as well

which there is no guarantee for either

[molten nimbus]

you could always fast forward it lol

or reduce quality

either way it's plausible

[keen jasper]

@verbal karma I could show you a clear with EX Jasmine, Hala and Candice

And how I can easily destroy Drake

[verbal karma]

heck, I don't have Jasmine EX'd, tho

[keen jasper]

EX Jasmine can be replaced for EX SS Blue

[verbal karma]

ah

[keen jasper]

Hold on

Let me reset my CS

[verbal karma]

no need to reset

[molten nimbus]

any clear for r4 sidney without darach?

[verbal karma]

I can just wait, too

[keen jasper]

Hmmmmm

[molten nimbus]

support list

best try is somehow Clemont BP/3/5 EX'd SS Hilda/1/5 Melony

[verbal karma]

hold on, I just realized that I have lots of spare level cap material that I wouldn't have used otherwise, so I used it to increase Candice's level cap to level her up

[old orchid]

@verbal karma recorded the run, will upload it to youtube rn

[molten nimbus]

Cynthia chomp also almost gets it if not for his hidden no guard passive

[verbal karma]

okay, gotta hope Youtube will cooperate with me this time

[old orchid]

i recorded with x2 speed so that you can understand my run better

note about this run:

• i use pre sync set
• i dont grid Heavy Hail on my Candice, the grids are shown at the end of the video
• Candice and Hala have CS2, while Blue has Vigilance
• no X Def All MPR proc, i think you need at least 1 Blue's TM MPR proc

[verbal karma]

urgh...depending on how often Drake and his team spams AoE attacks, Candice sometimes doesn't even survive Drake's sync

...yes, even with Post-Sync settings

[old orchid]

in my run Drake used 2 Earthquake iirc

[verbal karma]

in the run I did just now, Drake and his team used Earthquake almost all the time

[old orchid]

you can reset for more favorable move pattern

[verbal karma]

I mean, even if I do that, I rarely get a favorable move pattern

[keen jasper]

Damn, I got Earthquaked 3 times

2 of them were under sandstorm

[molten nimbus]

rip

[old orchid]

also additional note, Hala can start chipping the sides after the first sync, because Candice's 2nd sync can ko Drake. But i think your Candice isnt invested much like mine so i let him focus on mid

[keen jasper]

It seems that Hala's DPS alone can take out Drake

@verbal karma Ok, my own clear is done, just need to compress it and post it here

@verbal karma Here it is

[verbal karma]

I wasn't able to recreate your video one-to-one, but luckily, I had good enough confusion RNG that I...somehow still won anyway, so...uh...

...Task failed successfully, I guess? :V

[keen jasper]

If it works, then it works

[old orchid]

gratz

[keen jasper]

No matter how cheap you won

[verbal karma]

thnx

okay, now I need to change my R4 Sydney team

so...I assume Darach replaces regular Blue?

[keen jasper]

What move level is he?

[verbal karma]

Darach is 3/5

while Blue is 5/5

[keen jasper]

Definitely Darach over Blue

Darach can lower evasion

[old orchid]

and he can nuke Sidney

[verbal karma]

now I just need to replace Sycamore with a different support

so I can use Sycamore for Wallace instead

[keen jasper]

Do you have SS Steven? I'm guessing not

[old orchid]

can you send your support roster here?

[verbal karma]

I don't have any version of Steven

[keen jasper]

Well ok then

[verbal karma]

speaking of

now that I replaced Blue with Darach

I don't think Winona is useful anymore

[keen jasper]

You also need a crit buffer for Darach

[verbal karma]

yeah, I think the crit buffer can replace Winona then

[old orchid]

Sonia, Darach and OG Misty

wait, you have SC Jasmine

so Sonia, Darach and SC Jasmine

you can either sync with Jasmine first, or sync with Darach to nuke the right side first

[keen jasper]

And Jasmine has gradual regen so you don't need to use Darach's TM

[verbal karma]

alright, I assume Sonia tanks?

[keen jasper]

Nah Jasmine, so that your queueing won't be ruined

[verbal karma]

ah

[old orchid]

if you can sync nuke the side with first sync, tanking with Sonia is fine

oh hey, remember to pick Crit Shield parameter for free 150 points

[keen jasper]

Yeah, because of Darach's Defog

[verbal karma]

oh, I already have the parameters set to Pre-Sync (and this time, with the "No Status Conditions" parameter for the full 2000)

[old orchid]

oh wait

ROund 4 is half sync reduc

i forgot

so dont sync on the right, focus on mid instead

and dont use the pre sync set

[verbal karma]

oh

okay, nope

even with Post-Sync settings where "No Stat Reduction" is replaced with "Max HP ^2"

every single one of my sync pairs gets instantly killed by the post-sync Dark Pulse

not to mention that with Max HP ^2, Darach's sync attack hits like a wet towel

[old orchid]

maybe sync with Jasmine first for the Endure?

[verbal karma]

...nope, this is only delaying the inevitable, sadly: Sonia dies, then Jasmine dies, then Sydney can do his second sync attack on Darach, killing him as well

and Sydney still had, like, 1/3 of his HP left

I keep on saying this: setting the "Max HP ^2" parameter is a big mistake

[keen jasper]

How close were you to defeating Sidney

[verbal karma]

he had 1/3 of his HP left

hold on, maybe I should have used Brave Bird less often and Feather Dance more often

maybe that was the problem

[old orchid]

you have to debuff his atk to -6

[keen jasper]

Yeah, for the full multipliers

[verbal karma]

welp, I now did full Feather Dance before I started doing Brave Bird, and...

I can nuke Sidney before he does his second sync attack now, but...

...now his sides make mincemeat out of my team

[keen jasper]

Why don't you try weakening the sides?

[verbal karma]

because I still need to get rid of Sidney before he becomes a problem

...well, technically, he already is a problem since the very beginning

hell, right at the start, he could decide to use Bullet Seed, and when that happens, Sonia just...loses 2/3 of her health

[keen jasper]

Even with her TM and -2 attack?

[verbal karma]

...heck, I should have started with Feather Dance instead of doing if after Darach's TM

oh jesus christ

[keen jasper]

You don't need Darach's TM, just spam Feather Dance

[verbal karma]

Sidney can start with Dark Pulse as well

and when THAT happens

[keen jasper]

Oh yeah, and there's that too

[verbal karma]

Sonia just loses 4/5 of her health

[keen jasper]

Sidney is mixed after all and his sync is special

[old orchid]

i would record a run for you again, but i ex'ed all of them

oh hey, do you have power boosted Zinnia?

she can dual strike with Darach

[keen jasper]

@verbal karma Did you play during the Hoenn villain arc?

[verbal karma]

...are you asking if my Zinnia is EX'd?

because yes, my Zinnia is EX'd

and upgraded, too

[keen jasper]

Ah good, because she can also work as a flying-type damage dealer too with her Dragon Ascent

[keen jasper]

But doesn't Zinnia need weather?

[old orchid]

yes

found a f2p team with her

https://youtu.be/rZx5_K6Fq0U

[verbal karma]

honestly, my biggest problem right now is that Sonia...simply dies too quickly

even with Jasmine syncing first

[old orchid]

Yeah Sidney has really high offensive stats

You can always do toxic stalling

[verbal karma]

I don't think any of my toxic stallers can survive long enough for that, considering how Sidney hits like a freight train

[keen jasper]

Because sides do Earthquake

[verbal karma]

it's not the sides that kill off Sonia

it's Sidney himself

[old orchid]

Without picking any offensive params im sure your tank can survive well

[keen jasper]

@verbal karma Do you have anymore EX supporters left?

[verbal karma]

haha, nope

SS Blue was my only EX supporter

[grand trout]

Question

The guides say "low resistance to x"

What exactly does it mean

Like at first glance using x is recommended until the next parentheses have (lessen x) which lowers the effects of x so it comes contradictory

[trail smelt]

Enemies have different skills that reduce the effectiveness of certain status

[grand trout]

So low resistance means what exactly

[trail smelt]

Low level of resistance exactly

[void wyvern]

These skills are lessen 3 rather than the usual lessen 5 or lessen 8

[grand trout]

OHHHHHH

That makes more sense

So use x against them?

[void wyvern]

If that’s the strategy you want, it has more of an impact.

[grand trout]

Oooh got it got it

[grand trout]

This makes it all clearer

I'm like "why use x when opponent has lessen x, sounds counterintuitive"

[void wyvern]

Happy we could clear up doubts.

[grand trout]

Thanks so much

[verbal karma]

back on the topic of EXed supports

I...technically can EX a support

and it's a support I...already kinda wanted to EX at some point anyway

the one thing that stopped me is that I...don't really like her EX color scheme

but before I do, I should probably ask first: would an EX Skyla be better than a regular Sonia?

[keen jasper]

Depends on the team comp, both are very good units to EX

[verbal karma]

oh, I can't EX Sonia

not even close

the only supports I can EX right now are:

SS Elesa (already used her in CS)
Lyra
Rosa
Skyla

[spring fable]

sonia is good

i would ex mine if she was 3/5

[verbal karma]

well, I can't EX Sonia right now

she doesn't even have 20 fed to her

[old orchid]

Just a reminder that you can change their EX style back to orginal style

[verbal karma]

true true

now the big question is: is EX Skyla better than regular Sonia?

and if yes, will Darach/SC Jasmine/Skyla (EX) work?

[keen jasper]

Sonia is definitely better

[verbal karma]

oh

...well, since Darach/SC Jasmine/Sonia isn't working, should Darach be replaced with Zinnia then?

[keen jasper]

But Skyla is good in her own way

[keen jasper]

Zinnia would need weather and she needs to be the first to sync

[verbal karma]

hrrrmm...

then I need to somehow make Darach/SC Jasmine/Sonia work...but how?

[keen jasper]

Your Sonia is 3/5 right?

[verbal karma]

my Sonia is 5/5

[keen jasper]

Hold on

[verbal karma]

you need her grid?

[keen jasper]

Can I see your supports again?

[sand karma]

Just got Bea

Should I use her instead of solgaleo

[keen jasper]

Sonia, Zinnia and Winona

[old orchid]

Solgaleo is better than 1/5 Bea

[sand karma]

: (

[keen jasper]

Bea will definitely be better than Solgaleo once 3/5

[old orchid]

I believe their dps are in the same level

And yeah Bea has stronger sync than Solgaleo with being Fighting type

[keen jasper]

I mean, Solgaleo has Brainteaser and Bea has Ramming Speed I believe

Solgaleo has double benefits when using Focus Blast

[old orchid]

Bea doesnt have any multipliers for Meteor Assault

[keen jasper]

Really? Hmmmmm

[old orchid]

Well beside Critical Strikes

[verbal karma]

not working

[keen jasper]

How so?

[verbal karma]

they instantly die to Sidney's sync attack

even with post-sync settings

[keen jasper]

Are you using Zinnia's TM?

[verbal karma]

yeah

[keen jasper]

Don't use it, Sonia will buff Zinnia's attack

And Winona will set weather and flinch enemies

[verbal karma]

...shoot, I need to re-grid Zinnia

[keen jasper]

Just pray for Sonia's TM to MP refresh for complete crit

And she will also lower defense of enemies since Dragon Ascent is physical

And Sonia has Defense Crush 9

[verbal karma]

even with Sonia's TM refreshing and no use of Zinnia's TM, the results are the exact same...

[keen jasper]

Have you tried to flinch Sidney at the very beginning?

[verbal karma]

Just did, now only Sonia survived Sidney's sync attack

and with only a sliver of health left

[keen jasper]

Hmmmmmm

@verbal karma Did you use Winona's Rain Dance?

[verbal karma]

yeah

[keen jasper]

Ok, this is actually pretty rough

[keen jasper]

Oh, you have Jasmine and Ampharos?

[verbal karma]

yup, it's what I spent 36000 gems for

[keen jasper]

Ok, I'm gonna try this team:
Sonia, Darach and BP Morty

[verbal karma]

oh, I have BP Morty, too

[keen jasper]

I saw

Damn, Sonia's TM isn't MP refreshing

[old orchid]

BP Mosty is dark weak so be careful

tbh doing Sidney on round 4 is a bad idea

if you have a lot of free time, clear Sidney and Wallace with no params chosen and redo MM

or doing stall team

[verbal karma]

heck, I deliberately picked R4 for Sidney, though...

granted, it was originally for a different team entirely, but still

[keen jasper]

Ok, let's try Elio instead of BP Morty

@verbal karma And for your sake that your Elio is 1/5, mine is not gridded

Well, I was almost successful

But then Elio died to Bullet Seed because he's weak to grass

@verbal karma Does your Elio have Troublemaker as his lucky skill?

@verbal karma Here it is

Sorry for the multiple pings

[verbal karma]

after 9 cookies, he now does

[keen jasper]

Nice

[keen jasper]

I think this team will help you

#1009554906568462476 message

[verbal karma]

...yeah, this isn't working out

as long as Sonia still dies entirely too fast to this, I am unable to win

[keen jasper]

Did you see the parameters I chose?

[verbal karma]

yes

[keen jasper]

Are you attempting to sleep the sides?

After you defeat Sidney?

[verbal karma]

I can't even get to defeat Sidney in the first place

this is actually the worst I have been progressing so far

[spring fable]

How is she? Is she worth pulling?

[keen jasper]

Follow my video

[verbal karma]

I tried

I am now able to beat Sidney again

but the sides kill me again

and Elio can't put them to sleep fast enough

[keen jasper]

Sleep them before you kill Sidney

[verbal karma]

I did

problem is that by the time Sidney actually IS dead

Sonia is already dead, too

and that's, like, unavoidable at this point

but it's also bad, too

because the moment Sonia is gone

I have Move Gauge management issues again

[molten nimbus]

🤔 maybe let winona do the tanking while sonia fishes for flinches+potion/acceleration

[verbal karma]

...Winona?

but my team is Darach/Elio/Sonia

[molten nimbus]

oh

thought it's winona/zinnia/sonia

lolll

[verbal karma]

I tried that one, but Sidney would party wipe with his first sync

yes, really

[molten nimbus]

oh

makes sense

[verbal karma]

just as a reminder: this is R4 Sidney, which means he also gets to have accelrated sync

[molten nimbus]

i know

I am stuck there too

will try again soon

[swift swan]

hmm, you really need to buff your defenses if you're doing Sidney R4 then

he has innately high offenses

[late halo]

Sydney is a real tough one for R4

[spring fable]

Hey Nov

[keen jasper]

That's my team on that video

[sand karma]

Round 1 Glacia with Solgaleo, Hilbert, Hop
dying to the sides😠
I hate hoenn cs

[mellow linden]

Hilbert and Hop are extremely redundant

Pick one or the other (Hop if Hilbert is 2/5 or lower) and you'll probably want to try Korrina over Solgaleo if Hop is your main Support

[sand karma]

Bertie is 3/5 ex

He doesn't give defense tho

And i need some refreshing potions

[mellow linden]

He can give Defense via grid, only +2 though

[sand karma]

That's what

[mellow linden]

Glacia is also mainly special moves, so Defense buffs aren't as impactful

[sand karma]

Should I get elio?

But potions

[steel kelp]

Glacia is weak

[mellow linden]

Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[steel kelp]

Compared to Sidney who hits hard

[sand karma]

Mm

[mellow linden]

What parameters for Master Mode then?

[sand karma]

Not when your main is Solgaleo

[sand karma]

Post sync MX hp 2 instead of no stat reduction

[steel kelp]

What are you debuffing

[sand karma]

He has a chance to reduce sp def

[mellow linden]

And your only Fighting options are Solgaleo and Korrina?

[sand karma]

Bea 1/5

Wally 1/5

[mellow linden]

Don't rely on that, it's barely (if at all) gonna make a difference

[mellow linden]

Bea + Hilbert or Hop + Skyla

[sand karma]

I hate the flighting and rock options in this game

[mellow linden]

Bea is super good

[steel kelp]

Bea still hits like a truck

Believe in bea

[sand karma]

I need skyla for Ghetsis + Candice round 4 hail Mary

Someone said bea 1/5 is worse than Sol

Above

[mellow linden]

Then do Hilbert + MistyDuck/BP Morty for Supports

[mellow linden]

That's a ridiculous claim

[sand karma]

Haven't been here loong enough for mistyduck lmao
I just got Bea today

[steel kelp]

Mad cap

Solgaleo feels underwhelming compared to bea

[sand karma]

I mean he's underwhelming even without looking at Bea

But anyway

[mellow linden]

Solgaleo may technically have higher damage than 1/5 Bea (would need to see damage calcs), but Bea is far easier to set up

And ease of setup is just as important as optimal damage output

Plus Bea's Sync is actually on-type

[steel kelp]

Faster setup is more damage

[verbal karma]

I am getting close

[steel kelp]

Or at least you can start sooner

[keen jasper]

How close?

[sand karma]

With this team Sol also had minimum setup
Had to use tm only for the 3 accuracy

[mellow linden]

Except that team had no Sp. Atk. buffs

[sand karma]

Oh my God

[mellow linden]

So minimum of 2 Trainer Move uses

[sand karma]

Oh my God

I'm so dumb

[steel kelp]

And it’s special

[sand karma]

Omw to the dustbin brb

I don't think i have spatk buffing ex supports

[steel kelp]

What are your supports

[mellow linden]

I'd recommend giving Bea a try then. If she doesn't work out then you can always go back to trying Solgaleo

[verbal karma]

Sidney and right side defeated

sadly, by the team that happens, both Elio and Sonia are gone

and Darach can't get rid of the left side in time

[keen jasper]

I'd recommended killing Tsareena first because Razor Leaf will crit your Darach

[verbal karma]

problem is that Sceptile's Energy Ball hits harder than Tsareena's Trop Kick

[keen jasper]

Did you spam Sing on the last side?

[verbal karma]

I spam Sing everywhere

[steel kelp]

Yea like cobalt said give bea a couple tries

[verbal karma]

FINALLY!

Alright, only Wallace is left now

Sycamore/Anni May/Giovanni is good?

No wait

No it isn't!

Nobody is buffing Crit Rate

I need to fix that!

Wait, should I use the R2 gimmick or the R3 gimmick for Wallace?

[spring fable]

try each out

might find success

[mellow linden]

So Giovanni can handle his own crit rate

You can obviously bring a crit Support if you want, but it's not 100% necessary

[steel kelp]

Tm twice

I forget is he +1 or +2 per use

[mellow linden]

+2

Otherwise I'd have said to bring a crit Support

[steel kelp]

And 1 accuracy

[mellow linden]

I think evasion, actually

[steel kelp]

Evasion

Mix up

[mellow linden]

Anyways, I'm gonna say for Giovanni you're gonna want to turn off No Stat Reductions

Trust me, Giovanni + SS May's damage is more than enough to counteract the extra HP, especially if he's EX

Anniversary May, sorry

Not SS May

[verbal karma]

oh yeah, I forgot

okay, then yeah, Sycamore/Anni May/Giovanni should be good enough

[mellow linden]

If Sycamore doesn't work out you could try Dawn if you have her

A. May can handle Sp. Atk. buffs and Dawn is a great physical tank

Or just Skyla if she's still available for Defense and Speed buffs

[verbal karma]

Skyla and Dawn are still available

I would prefer to use Sycamore, though, since he can actually heal poison

...problem is that Sycamore dies too quickly

[keen jasper]

How did you do it?

[verbal karma]

well, the second sync attack killed the Tsareena

the third sync attacked killed Sidney

and this time, Elio was alive

so I could spam Sing on the Sceptile

[keen jasper]

GG

[verbal karma]

while Darach could wail on it with Brave Bird

thnx

[keen jasper]

Now, who's your team for Wallace?

[verbal karma]

Sycamore/Anni May/Giovanni

[mellow linden]

Wallace only uses Toxic once and it only affects the target. Dawn can heal it off herself, Skyla can potentially just not care due to Potions

So in case Sycamore is having issues those 2 are good alternatives

[keen jasper]

But the Seviper does Poison Fang

[mellow linden]

Ah, fair

[verbal karma]

not a problem: Giovanni's sync attack under Psychic Wish can insta-kill the sides

[mellow linden]

Still good alternatives if Sycamore has issues, but Poison Fang is something to watch out for

[verbal karma]

damn, Wallace was easy

[keen jasper]

Lol

[keen jasper]

How many points?

[verbal karma]

9850 points

I only needed 9500 points

[keen jasper]

Pretty good

[verbal karma]

thnx

[mellow linden]

Congrats!

[old orchid]

Nice, that means you can easily do 10k in other CS

Oh next week has Ghost weakness, really nice to test post buff Fantina

[mellow linden]

Oh, true

[keen jasper]

Ghost-weak and fire-weak

[mellow linden]

Sidney's the only one I might have any sort of issue with, but considering Diantha beat him last time I'm not concerned

[keen jasper]

And also dragon-weak