but then the flinch on the right side fails and beats Olivia with a Rock Slide before I can do one final Sync Attack 😦
#Champion Stadium
keen jasper
That's progress at least
swift swan
and you're the one who put Valerie in her own tier 
maybe, just maybe, with SMUN stacks from SS Kris and CCalem, she can do good numbers 
toxic cobalt
and you're the one who put Valerie in her own tier <:CobalionSquint:727233291241...
And I have never felt more confident in a decision
swift swan
I remember a time zinfogel made draining kiss valerie work... pre-valerie grid
void wyvern
I wonder how many attempts that took.
keen jasper
now...what team to pick for R3 Sidney?
Since special damage is increased, do you have any special fairy damage dealers?
verbal karma
I have Valerie
keen jasper
I mean obviously, but at the same time, she's good enough
verbal karma
I assume Hilbert gets replaced with SS Blue?
and Gladion stays?
no wait
Gladion gets replaced, too
Gladion is purely physical
and that's no good
keen jasper
So, what will be your team for Sidney?
verbal karma
I was thinking SS Blue, Valerie and...uh...I guess someone who has Potion?
keen jasper
You kinda have to kill Sidney before his sync because not only will he paralyze your whole team, but if you survive, Sidney has Dark Pulse
verbal karma
yeah, my idea is to somehow keep Valerie at as much health as possible at ALL times
due to her attacks getting powered up the more health she has
keen jasper
She does have Draining Kiss, so her HP will be no problem
verbal karma
fair
I definitely want SS Blue in my team because he's EX'd
and also has Move Gauge Acceleration
verbal karma
okay, good point
keen jasper
And also, Sycamore lowers Sp. Atk., and Sidney has multipliers when his Sp. Atk. is raised
verbal karma
...I have "No Stat Reduction" on, remember?
keen jasper
So Sycamore is kind of a requirement against fairy-weak Sidney
Oh dear, then Sidney will hit really hard
verbal karma
I mean, it's either "No Stat Reduction" or "Max HP ^2"
and the latter already failed during R2
so I'm afraid I kinda have to take the "No Stat Reduction" pill
in hopes I can somehow merc Sidney before he does his Sync Attack
keen jasper
in hopes I can somehow merc Sidney before he does his Sync Attack
I think Valerie's sync will be strong enough to kill Sidney
With EX support and if the attack crits
keen jasper
haha, Valerie's sync with EX support and crit barely left a scratch on Sidney
Who are your other fairy DDs?
verbal karma
my only Fairy damage dealers are Mina, Valerie and Summer Lyra
yes, it's really that bad
keen jasper
Mina isn't that bad
verbal karma
but she's primary physical
keen jasper
but she's primary physical
I mean, Sidney is primarily physical until he syncs
He'll do either Night Slash or Dark Pulse, and Dark Pulse is the absolute worst
verbal karma
hmm...
oh wait, I just realized
I had 21 4* Striker candies to spare
alright, used up 3 of them to bring Valerie to 5/5
maybe THAT will help
...maybe I also need to, like
actually grid up Valerie
...even though I am lacking in sync orbs
keen jasper
*actually grid up Valerie*
Have you actually gridded Mina?
verbal karma
I did
has Power Posture and Pecking Order
...both of which are useless because of the "No Stat Reduction" option
verbal karma
...again, "No Stat Reduction"
keen jasper
I think that the Max HP 2 is better than the No Stat Reduction
mellow linden
Could just…off-type with SS Serena
I think it’d probably be easier than trying to shoehorn on-typing with Valerie of all Fairy types
verbal karma
I think that the Max HP 2 is better than the No Stat Reduction
I already tried that...with Mina...in Round 2
I didn't get even close to winning
so no, Max HP 2 is absolutely not an option
keen jasper
Or you can try what Cobalt suggested and off-type it
verbal karma
it's why I ended up with R2 Drake in the first place
verbal karma
Could just…off-type with SS Serena
SS Serena teamed up with whom?
because SS Serena eats up ALL of the Move Gauge
mellow linden
Tank + someone to buff Speed, mainly
verbal karma
...SS Blue as the tank?
mellow linden
Skyla + a crit Support works
I’d avoid using SS Blue since SS Serena wants to Sync ASAP, personally
You have Evelyn and a gridded Marley?
It’s fine if not, just checking
verbal karma
I have Evelyn, although I don't think she's gridded
mellow linden
Doesn’t need to be, her important stuff is available in base kit
mellow linden
Do you have spare Sync Orbs and if so how many? Need like 160 more than what's used there to get her important tiles
If not that's fine, you can probably get away with just +4 Speed
Or if you want you can just have SS Serena use Dire Hit+ twice and use Skyla or another Speed buffer instead
verbal karma
I literally only have 64 yellow sync orbs left
mellow linden
That’s fine, you can probably get away with +4 Speed or use someone else
I just like Marley as a support for SS Serena due to Team Sharp Entry
Allows for smoother gameplay
verbal karma
That’s fine, you can probably get away with +4 Speed or use someone else
I can't even do +4 Speed, sadly
that's how broke I am
mellow linden
No, I mean reset the grid and grab Team Sharp Entry and roll with only the +4 Speed buffs from 2 uses of X Speed All
verbal karma
oh
mellow linden
If you want you can just roll with Skyla + a crit support (Phoebe is actually not a bad option if you have her, no grid required) as SS Serena’s teammates
Oh, wait, Phoebe’s weak to Dark, isn’t she
Eh, shouldn’t matter
verbal karma
oh hey, I have enough sync orbs to at least also give Marley X Speed All Pep Rally 1 on top of Team Sharp Entry
mellow linden
Oh, perfect
Those are the 2 tiles that matter for Marley in this situation
+6 Speed and lets SS Serena save a turn buffing her crit
Can go with Marley/SS Serena/Evelyn or try other teammates
I will say that if pre-Sync parameters don’t work with that team then you should try post-Sync parameters before giving up on it
Evelyn provides quite a bit of bulk to the team
verbal karma
...this isn't working out...
Evelyn gets KO'd by the first sync attack
while Marley and SS Serena get finished off one after another with Dark Pulse
hmm...actually, I only need a total of 9500 points at the end
and I am at 3900 points right now
mellow linden
Try post-Sync
verbal karma
maybe I can turn off Phys. Dmg. Reduction and Spec. Dmg. Reduction just for this single round and then turn them back on for R4
actually, I can even keep Phys. Dmg. Reduction
mellow linden
maybe I can turn off Phys. Dmg. Reduction and Spec. Dmg. Reduction just for this...
Won’t change anything except less points, SS Serena’s already ignoring the shields because she crits
verbal karma
hmm...
mellow linden
Can just try post-Sync parameters and see if that changes anything for you
verbal karma
oh god
it's gotten even WORSE
now Evelyn gets KO'd by the Water Pulse before the first sync attack
mellow linden
Ah, right, one of the sides has Water moves
Might end up needing to try Skyla + a crit buffer or something then
verbal karma
Ah, right, one of the sides has Water moves
It was Absol that did Water Pulse
mellow linden
How many fights left?
Can very easily run a duo that can beat the stage themselves + one of the missing types as filler
frosty axle
Bruh, I need these 2 types for 18/18 and this is all I have xD
Medicham and Seismitoad can make a team with something else if you got one stage left
verbal karma
@mellow linden so wait, if neither Pre-Sync nor Post-Sync works, what should I do for R3 Sydney then?
mellow linden
Either try a different team structure and see what works or do Poison stall
Dunno if you have any of the other win-button pairs like SS Steven, but if you do you could also try them instead of SS Serena
verbal karma
haha, I have absolutely NO version of Steven
mellow linden
Was just an example
mellow linden
Techs too, if you don't mind
mellow linden
SSA Cynthia + Hilbert + Bea
If Bea is gridded great, if not it probably doesn't matter
mellow linden
Fair enough, she'll murder Glacia
steel kelp
Silver literally exists
verbal karma
so I can use SS Erika for Wallace
steel kelp
For free
mellow linden
There's lots of off-type options, can save SS Hilda for Round 4 just fine
Anyways, if Bea isn't gridded do all your Syncs with SSA Cynthia to keep Fighting Zone going
If she's gridded with Inertia then you may want to do 2nd Sync with her
verbal karma
Bea is straight up not working out
her speed is maxed
she has inertia
her Sync attacks crit
yet even her third sync attack hits like a wet towel
mellow linden
There is zero way her Meteor Assault under Fighting Zone is underperforming
Even ignoring Sync that should be doing a lot of damage
verbal karma
and yet it...really doesn't...
hold on, maybe I am missing something important in Bea's sync grid
mellow linden
Doesn't mean much in the end, but Critical Ferocity is useless because you have Hilbert
verbal karma
Do you have inertia?
I do
zealous karma
Doesn't mean much in the end, but Critical Ferocity is useless because you have ...
What’s critical ferocity?
mellow linden
Chance of buffing Attack when crit lands
steel kelp
Hilbert uses tm twice for max attack and bea maxed her own crit
verbal karma
alright, I was missing Sharp Entry 1
zealous karma
I’d just run this
verbal karma
now Bea should at the very least have guaranteed Crits
mellow linden
You shouldn't need Sharp Entry, Hilbert handles your crit buffs
verbal karma
You shouldn't need Sharp Entry, Hilbert handles your crit buffs
he does?
mellow linden
Unless you don't have him gridded for Critical Squad
zealous karma
With his grid he has critical squad
mellow linden
In which case, the heck
verbal karma
Unless you don't have him gridded for Critical Squad
I don't
steel kelp
Give it
verbal karma
steel kelp
Where’s the pinned grid
mellow linden
That grid is straight up garbage outside of getting Vigilance
steel kelp
Hold on
mellow linden
Get Trainer Move Critical Squad
zealous karma
I don’t like vigilance hilbert in grid I like it as a lucky skill way more
mellow linden
And don't bother with the Sync base power tiles
steel kelp
zealous karma
Why TM MPR
pine spruce
completed my first CSMM, only 3850 points though
steel kelp
It was one of the pinned grids
zealous karma
Nice 
we all start from somewhee
verbal karma
Tried to salvage it
mellow linden
completed my first CSMM, only 3850 points though
Hey, it's a start. Can go up to 4250 next time
pine spruce
And apparantly taking all HP boost was somewhat a good idea
mellow linden
Tried to salvage it
That's better, yeah. No reason to not grab the rest of the initial hexagon
zealous karma
completed my first CSMM, only 3850 points though
If you ever want to push further bever be afraid to ask for help even if it’s only 1.5K more points or 200 points more
pine spruce
on who?
steel kelp
Just put vigilance as lucky
mellow linden
It's probably not a big deal to not run Vigilance on Hilbert for this team
pine spruce
if thats on a support you could just lucky skill it
mellow linden
Since SSA Cynthia is tanking
pine spruce
but yeah that
pine spruce
How many blues?
mellow linden
Worst case scenario can run without Vigilance since SSA Cynthia would be tanking
verbal karma
How many blues?
over 30, thankfully
pine spruce
the only worst cookie pull count before vigilance was like, 10+ cookies.. at least for me
anyway, is there any reason I should be taking the atk+sp.atk/def+sp.def boost and STR boost? Not so sure why I would be taking them in MM
verbal karma
okay, gave Vigilance to both Hilbert and SSA Cynthia
mellow linden
anyway, is there any reason I should be taking the atk+sp.atk/def+sp.def boost a...
More points, basically
zealous karma
Can Olivia 3K?
mellow linden
If EX possibly
zealous karma
Mines 3-5 Ex
mellow linden
Dunno for sure though
zealous karma
If Calem can surely she can
pine spruce
More points, basically
I see, although idk when to use it
people hitting too hard for support to tank
mellow linden
There’s pinned parameters for 1500 and 2000 points per stage
zealous karma
Is this 3K?
mellow linden
Usually it just means bringing a Support that can increase survivability in addition to getting required offensive buffs
And yeah, you can adjust as needed to make it work better for you
zealous karma
How does this look
pine spruce
Lana sucking life to survive
mellow linden
How does this look
Seems decent, at least
mellow linden
Lana sucking life to survive
Gotta love it when that one bulky Support manages to snag victory from the jaws of defeat
zealous karma
Lana sucking life to survive
Wide guard DPS hype
pine spruce
leech life in main series: 
leech life in PoMa: 
zealous karma
Lana with master healer…
verbal karma
ugh
even when I manage to defeat Sidney with Bea
his sides still manage to OHKO her with their AOE
verbal karma
no, I just can't win this
no matter what I do
R3 Sidney just seems impossible at this point
void wyvern
Lana sucking life to survive
Lana is reminiscent of older supports whose grids were focused around dps
Good to see she still gets use
swift swan
anyway, is there any reason I should be taking the atk+sp.atk/def+sp.def boost a...
more points yes, but please don't take attack, defense, and strength parameters all at the same time
stacking attack and defense is a terrible idea
raw halo
Post your roster
raw halo
What are we looking for
Don’t really care tbh, want to gauge everything you have
And then point in the right direction
toxic cobalt
We are looking for initial five stars on move level screen
raw halo
That works but 4 stars are useful as well
They want a sun setter so your filter setting would eliminate someone like Blaine
toxic cobalt
Generally we assume they have most 3 and 4 stars, but if they don’t that’s worth calling out
raw halo
They seem new so that’s why i just wanted to see everything
toxic cobalt
Move level screen very important though
raw halo
Agreed
toxic cobalt
Ah very new?
raw halo
Or at least any screen that shows the sync move level
toxic cobalt
Well for sun just go silver
swift swan
Or at least any screen that shows the sync move level
the level up menu shows sync move level iirc, but it also blacks out every sync pair at maxed level
hollow patio
toxic cobalt
the level up menu shows sync move level iirc, ~~but it also blacks out every syn...
Level menu bad for this reason
hollow patio
Oh 5/5
toxic cobalt
Going out on a limb and feeling they have all 3 and 4 star
raw halo
Yeah probably
toxic cobalt
Why isn’t Rosa EXed?
swift swan
oh hey, a 3/5 Hilbert 
hollow patio
Saving cs
raw halo
She gets free ones in her event iirc
hollow patio
I used the free powerups
toxic cobalt
Hmmm 1/5 Olivia
hollow patio
Didn’t get any spirit
hollow patio
I didn’t even try to get her 3/5 it just happened lol
Just wish she wasn’t so squishy before heals
raw halo
You can poison stall a stage yeah
toxic cobalt
Have you beaten any stages this week?
hollow patio
There’s a little about it in #poma-questions
raw halo
Wallace, Glacia and Drake are left
toxic cobalt
Looks like drake is being done R3
hollow patio
Looks like drake is being done R3
Depends if I use sun for glacia or Wallace
It’s only on him rn because that’s what I was checking at the time
toxic cobalt
Why not both
hollow patio
Only 1 sun setter
raw halo
You should have Blaine and Silver given your 130 units
hollow patio
I mean there’s Blaine too but what’s he gonna do
toxic cobalt
You have at least Silver and Blaine
toxic cobalt
I mean there’s Blaine too but what’s he gonna do
Set sun
hollow patio
Silver sets sun?
raw halo
On sync yes
toxic cobalt
It’s his key attribute
swift swan
doesn't matter
hollow patio
Oh ok
toxic cobalt
Have you got the grid expansion? That is more important
hollow patio
Yes
raw halo
Perfect
hollow patio
Would silver be better for glacia or Wallace
In permasun I can solar beam ad nauseum
raw halo
SS Erika is probably better for Wallace, she can work as a DPS and nuke there, you don’t have a good fire DPS outside of Hilda so Overheat Silver can carry there
hollow patio
Fire moves
raw halo
Oh so he is EXed
raw halo
His grid expansion
toxic cobalt
Lol okay then he needs some buff supper
raw halo
Oh so you have EX but not expansion
toxic cobalt
Support
raw halo
Yeah
hollow patio
What does his expansion give him
hollow patio
I have 970 stamina saved up I can burn through all of it rn to get enough
But idk if I want to
toxic cobalt
Silver Acerola Roxanne is a powerful team this week
swift swan
...yes you do
no reason to pile up your stamina if you haven't even cleared the shop yet
raw halo
It’s a free upgrade and it’s suboptimal to hoard stamina anyways
You generally want to always keep stamina refreshing
hollow patio
I was going to do that last day of event until I manage to get everything I need from shop plus clears mission
hollow patio
But ig with 250 free extra stamina per day I’m not exactly strapped
raw halo
You lose 360 stamina per day
- there’s also a rally on atm
hollow patio
360?
toxic cobalt
Put some level 1s on a team and skip ticket to Silver grid expansion
raw halo
You may not have enough especially if you’re not low enough in PR to continuously get stamina refreshes
hollow patio
What’s ar
toxic cobalt
Skip tickets training example
raw halo
Yeah but because it’s above 177 you’re not naturally regenerating stamina
hollow patio
Skip tickets training example
Would it be worth it to do it with eggmons
raw halo
No 
hollow patio
Solid
raw halo
For you i’d do it with 5 star units that are underlevelled
If they’re below 120 level them up to that benchmark
Make sure they’re uncapped as well though
toxic cobalt
Most of them
hollow patio
Ok but if you were me who would you start with
toxic cobalt
Nessa Bea Brendan Serena?
hollow patio
Ok goin for it
raw halo
Nessa Bea Brendan Serena?
Agree with above
hollow patio
One more question from me unrelated to cs so I put it in questions
raw halo
I’d also add Lucian, Hilbert, Leaf, Falkner and Kris as a secondary set
hollow patio
Leaf is already 120
toxic cobalt
Leaf Eevee
raw halo
Leaf is already 120
To clarify since you have the halloween one I mean Hilbert and Samurott as well
hollow patio
I don’t have fall hilbert
raw halo
I must’ve mistook it for someone else then my bad 
toxic cobalt
Well
That’s either Glacia or Wallace solved
Does Brendan have dauntless lucky skill?
hollow patio
I never use Brendan
No
If I need grass phys I either use Selene or mallow
Also only like two of my trainers have a lucky skill bc I’m not too familiar with the process
hollow patio
Brendan is a special dps
Then I use rosa
hollow patio
Anyway Selena or mallow should be fine for Wallace.
I have to level up and uncap too then
But nbd
swift swan
Rosa is a support
hollow patio
I have a tendency to prefer living longer than straight damage
But that’s open to change
toxic cobalt
For R3 I can’t think of a Better option than offtyping with a special striker
Eg. Cyrus
hollow patio
I’d been planning on running acerola sand
But Cyrus definitely works
Which round could I use ssa Cynthia
If any
Could I pair her with Cyrus for r3 drake
raw halo
Anyway Selena or mallow should be fine for Wallace.
they have SS Erika
or at least said they did
hollow patio
I do have her I just forgot to mention
raw halo
and yeah agree
toxic cobalt
they have SS Erika
Sure why not
raw halo
an off-type Cyrus clear + Silver Clear + SS Erika clear should be a good route
raw halo
i'd actually say Silver
hollow patio
Oh?
raw halo
cause he has both physical and special moves to use
SS Erika is full physical so you can use any physical support and you have a few good ones (Aaron, Hilbert etc.)
so i'd pair Lyra with Silver and a Physical support for Erika
and with Cyrus you just use a rain team
hollow patio
Plus silver solar beam spam vs glacia would be offtype
I think I’ll save ssa Cynthia for Wallace as I don’t have any standouts for grass
Is it worth setting up a rain grid for Cyrus
Or can I just brute force my way through it with the one I usually use
swift swan
if you're offtyping, hydro pump cyrus is better, so yeah it's worth bringing a rain setter and have a hydro pump-focused grid on him
toxic cobalt
Winona is a good option
hollow patio
if you're offtyping, hydro pump cyrus is better, so yeah it's worth bringing a r...
Hydro pump would be better even with the 5/5 aoe sync?
Wait I can use both
Brain moment
I assume this means I need refreshing rain
swift swan
eh, not really
there should be a hydro pump cyrus grid in the sync grids channel in #1009553004350931054
swift swan
hm? there is no water-weak stage this week
both cyrus and may will be hitting offtype
there's no STAB bonus either in this game
toxic cobalt
Sync not too important, most damage will be hydro pump dps
hollow patio
I’m just thinking about which grid build to use for them
toxic cobalt
In bottom right there is the inertia for hydro pump, and top left has the accuracy and damage boosts
If needed take crit buff
In bottom left
toxic cobalt
You will have to use a crit buffer
If you don’t have one take out refreshing rain and get critical focus
hollow patio
If you don’t have one take out refreshing rain and get critical focus
Cant get there
-3
toxic cobalt
Remove mgr then
hollow patio
I thought hp was my dps
toxic cobalt
Don’t need mgr though if you are buffing speed
hollow patio
If I’m not running a dedicated speed buffer won’t that be a hindrcar
hollow patio
So no may?
swift swan
sure, may is a fine replacement for extra damage to the sides
hollow patio
I haven’t really looked at any of my 3* tbh
swift swan
time to send your tierlist, aurochs
hollow patio
May is already gridded
toxic cobalt
Yeah
Stars don’t mean much since you can upgrade units
All EX are 6* by definition
toxic cobalt
Sure
toxic cobalt
Nah, just use Skyla
hollow patio
Ok
toxic cobalt
May and Cyrus both self buff crit
pine spruce
What does his expansion give him
gives his Trainer Move a boost to both Atk and Sp. Atk, grants Supereffective Move Up boost, and gives a whooping +90% sync move damage when the weather is sunny
swift swan
May needs TM MPR to buff crit. Cyrus wants the critical focus tile
pine spruce
May and Cyrus both self buff crit
depends on his grid tbh
outside of that you might need a crit buffer
hollow patio
May needs TM MPR to buff crit. Cyrus wants the critical focus tile
I can’t reach his all the way down there
swift swan
seriously, I don't recommend hoarding stamina like that. you're only missing out on stamina that could've passively regenerated
swift swan
I can’t reach his all the way down there
there should be a hydro pump + crit focus grid on the docs
hollow patio
Oh I was using a different build
swift swan
if you don't have a crit buffer with you, always take the crit focus tile
pine spruce
Yeah
hollow patio
Mays crit buff is only self
pine spruce
There's also the option of building around Spatial Rend, but its a bit weaker than Hydro Pump spam
and requires his expansion for that to work.
hollow patio
I have it
swift swan
There's also the option of building around Spatial Rend, but its a bit weaker th...
for offtype, hydro pump is much better
also because rain is more accessible than dragon zone anyway
hollow patio
May needs TM MPR to buff crit. Cyrus wants the critical focus tile
Should I replace rain mpr with tm mpr
pine spruce
well true. but well, its an option. I still recommend hydro pump though
Since his expansion might not come again for months
pine spruce
Should I replace rain mpr with tm mpr
to may?
hollow patio
I have the expansions for Cyrus, Ghetsis, and Silver. Idk about zinnia but I think I do
Yes
keen jasper
I have the expansions for Cyrus, Ghetsis, and Silver. Idk about zinnia but I thi...
I mean, did you play during the Hoenn VA?
hollow patio
Yes
pine spruce
I do not have May, but get MPRs of desire depending on situation. They get very useful in Battle Villa, and for reaching max stats a little easier
hollow patio
That’s when I started
For the sync nuke build on the doc it used rain mpr but I can switch it for tm
hollow patio
I mean, did you play during the Hoenn VA?
I think I got the expansion but not the ex
keen jasper
I think I got the expansion but not the ex
Did you get the champion spirits too?
hollow patio
Only 32/50
hollow patio
Yeah
hollow patio
It’s no big deal really, I never really use her
toxic cobalt
By which I mean mega
hollow patio
The constant having to clear confusion and rebuff spatk annoyed me
toxic cobalt
Dauntless lucky skill and she can be gridded to not have confusion iirc
hollow patio
I haven’t really dabbled in lucky skills yet
If I need dragon strike I just use Cyrus anyway
toxic cobalt
Fair
keen jasper
Onto glacia
What round?
hollow patio
4
void wyvern
Blaine
pine spruce
say, how far I could go in MM with this roster?
void wyvern
Use silver Lyra Blaine. Silver power boost will just nuke out glacia
trail smelt
Me most of the time LMAO
toxic cobalt
No Blaine
trail smelt
Really I only really care about the half sync parameter and the perma field parameter
toxic cobalt
Really I only really care about the half sync parameter and the perma field para...
You don’t use additional effects ?
trail smelt
Don’t care
swift swan
same, I don't care most of the time
sometimes when there's a debuff parameter I look at units that have those multipliers, but it's not a very big deal
trail smelt
By this most point most of my teams don’t need to flinch lock haha
trail smelt
Or when I need it, the parameter isn’t there
toxic cobalt
Why not
No reason to imo
Especially in permanent field effect
Get a flincher or a sleeper
hollow patio
If I replace hail with sun can she not just put hail back up
toxic cobalt
Not if you flinch or sleep her
keen jasper
If I replace hail with sun can she not just put hail back up
Then put sun back up before your nuke
Or what Aurochs said
hollow patio
What can flinch or sleep that would be useful
swift swan
aaaah the wonders of flinching away weather and terrains
unfortunately doesn't work with zones, rip
swift swan
What can flinch or sleep that would be useful
do you have Serena and Delphox
hollow patio
Yes
Oh right
She exists
So would f4 glacia be silver Lyra and serena
I forgot what y’all said about whether I should save Lyra for Wallace or use her against glacia
toxic cobalt
Use that team that works
trail smelt
For what it’s worth, having both Silver and Lyra is kind of redundant since they both sets sun on sync but hey whatever works.
What do you have for Wallace?
hollow patio
trail smelt
Seems fine you’re good
swift swan
Lyra is fine with Silver. It's just that you'll want to use her sunny side up after silver's first sync
hollow patio
Ok so time to grid silver
The doc has an overheat and a sacred fire build
Oh duh sacred fire is the phys one
hollow patio
After everything I’ve done I end up getting absolutely swept by glacia
What’s not working
old orchid
did you time sleep well?
hollow patio
What’s the right time
void wyvern
Right before she does hail.
hollow patio
I haven’t been living long enough for them to change weather back after I sync
If I sync
void wyvern
Is silver gridded?
void wyvern
Power boost too?
old orchid
i think bringing a sun setter is better
void wyvern
If it is power boost we can just use silver and sync nuke first sync
hollow patio
If it is power boost we can just use silver and sync nuke first sync
That’s what I’m trying to do
old orchid
If it is power boost we can just use silver and sync nuke first sync
this. this is better and easier than doing sleep chain
hollow patio
What are the first two
void wyvern
Without a sun setter sync nuking with silver is very hard
hollow patio
So Blaine over serena or Lyra
void wyvern
Serena
old orchid
Serena
void wyvern
Can we see the silver grid?
old orchid
use the pre sync param pinned here
void wyvern
Just want to make sure it’s as optimal as we can get.
toxic cobalt
Without a sun setter sync nuking with silver is very hard
This is simply untrue
old orchid
Can we see the silver grid?
i think the Silver grid is the same as the one i sent him earlier
old orchid
This is simply untrue
he cant max speed and no sun for first sync if there is no sun setter
in Lyra / Serena team
hollow patio
That’s the right silver one
void wyvern
That’ll work perfectly
toxic cobalt
he cant max speed and no sun for first sync if there is no sun setter
None of this is necessary
void wyvern
This r4 field effects are perm right?
toxic cobalt
Yeah perm
old orchid
yup
toxic cobalt
First sync nuke is really unimportant
old orchid
but in this strat you want to clear in the first sync
void wyvern
Set up Sun turn 1 with Blaine. Make sure to use Lyra’s tm to max your speed. With silver do TM overheat TM and sync with him.
hollow patio
Overheat?
void wyvern
If we encounter issues we can try a new strategy or refine it further.
hollow patio
None
void wyvern
His sync is actually physical so overheat won’t weaken it
hollow patio
I haven’t done any lucky skills except for one on xerneas
void wyvern
sacred fire being a physical move is so trippy
verbal karma
eugh
Master Mode R3 Sidney is still giving me trouble
even with my Post-Sync config team of SSA Cynthia/Bea/Hilbert
toxic cobalt
but in this strat you want to clear in the first sync
But why
void wyvern
If you don’t think you can find a solution. There’s no shame in beating it without Mm and trying again in a different order.
verbal karma
even with Inertia and Critical Strike 2, Bea can only barely defeat Sidney, and then his sides eliminate her
toxic cobalt
even with my Post-Sync config team of SSA Cynthia/Bea/Hilbert
Why not use special attacker for the special attack up stage
void wyvern
1/5?
verbal karma
yeah
void wyvern
Have any other powerful special attackers?
verbal karma
well, I can show you all of my 5* strikers that I have
void wyvern
We can try.
void wyvern
Success?
hollow patio
Big success
void wyvern
Lovely.
hollow patio
Onto the next
void wyvern
Good luck!
hollow patio
But which modifier
void wyvern
Up to you.
hollow patio
Field effects if I’m running ss Erika?
verbal karma
We can try.
void wyvern
Gio power boost 
verbal karma
yeah, he's power boosted
toxic cobalt
Field effects if I’m running ss Erika?
Just make sure you time her sunny days to remove rain
swift swan
yeah, on entry
void wyvern
Thanks Nov
void wyvern
Cyrus hydro pump may be our fix here
toxic cobalt
Cyrus hydro pump may be our fix here
Gio in terrain another option
void wyvern
Does gio still do enough damage without smarty pants?
What am I saying of course he does
toxic cobalt
Unlike Cyrus his sync is also terrain boosted
void wyvern
I’ve been far too privileged by pal dawn and Anni May for Gio. Sole reason I didn’t summon for SS steven.
toxic cobalt
Gio Sabrina Bianca used to be my go to offtype before mega
And that’s without spatk up
void wyvern
Probably still off types a ton of stuff
toxic cobalt
Pretty sure it offtypes anything without wise entry
Animay much better for Gio though, she combines Sabrina and Bianca into one 
void wyvern
Psystrike my beloved goes through wise entry
void wyvern
You have Anni may?
keen jasper
EX defense buffer
toxic cobalt
Ex not relevant as you want to sync with gio
verbal karma
Lucian or Roxanne.
I don't have Lucian, and I already used Roxanne
keen jasper
Who lowers attacks and buffs defense at the same time?
verbal karma
Pal dawn is the best here.
oh, I have Pal dawn, but...I have "No Stat Reduction" on
hollow patio
Could I use jasmine alongside sserika
keen jasper
oh, I have Pal dawn, but...I have "No Stat Reduction" on
Then Gio won't have his multipliers then
void wyvern
oh, I have Pal dawn, but...I have "No Stat Reduction" on
Okay this just got a whole lot cheesier
hollow patio
I don’t even know if I’m doing the perma field effects modifier for this
toxic cobalt
oh, I have Pal dawn, but...I have "No Stat Reduction" on
So remove it
hollow patio
It seems intuitive to do so
keen jasper
Because he gains multipliers when the target's Sp. Def. is lowered
verbal karma
Then Gio won't have his multipliers then
sadly, replacing "No Stat Reduction" with something else is not an option either
void wyvern
Max hp
void wyvern
We should be able to punch straight through
toxic cobalt
It’s 100% an option lol
keen jasper
sadly, replacing "No Stat Reduction" with something else is not an option either
You serious?
verbal karma
yes
toxic cobalt
It is in fact the obvious decision
keen jasper
Stat reduction will literally make you deal more damage and make your survive longer
verbal karma
It is in fact the obvious decision
if it would have been an obvious decision, then it would have worked in Round 2
but it didn't
keen jasper
And also without the No Stat Reduction parameter, you can just easily take out the sides
Max HP won't matter if your damage is high enough
verbal karma
again, it mattered in Round 2
toxic cobalt
if it would have been an obvious decision, then it would have worked in Round 2
I assure you that a particular 100 point parameter choice was not the issue
verbal karma
and Round 2 actually buffed Stat reductions
verbal karma
also, hold on, you said Pal Dawn is better than Rosa?
void wyvern
Very
hollow patio
Time to grid erika
verbal karma
...as a tank?
void wyvern
Fake tears will make gio delete the enemy team
keen jasper
Yes, techs can serve as a pseudo-tank
void wyvern
Small sacrifice. Big results
toxic cobalt
Don’t think this team needs a tank anyway
keen jasper
Giovanni's damage is big enough anyways to not need a tank
verbal karma
Don’t think this team needs a tank anyway
oh, you'd be surprised
void wyvern
Lmao. I’ll go and test the team
toxic cobalt
I probably would
void wyvern
Just to be sure
toxic cobalt
Screenshot the video 
void wyvern
You’re so right
hollow patio
Once you select a modifier for champion can you change it
keen jasper
Once you select a modifier for champion can you change it
You can
hollow patio
Oh ok
verbal karma
nope
nope nope nope
Mewtwo dies way before Sidney even does his sync attack
this isn't working out
nothing seems to work out
toxic cobalt
Well, Giovanni is weak to dark
This killed my Mespirit stall 
keen jasper
@verbal karma Do you want to try a YOLO strat?
void wyvern
Wow Sidney is more bulky than I remember
verbal karma
<@229579142201475073> Do you want to try a YOLO strat?
depends...what's the strat?
keen jasper
depends...what's the strat?
It involves you not having strength parameters in exchange for having stuff like half HP, half sync and stuff like that
verbal karma
...well, I could try, but...I am afraid Mewtwo might die even faster then
and especially Pal Dawn
toxic cobalt
Use Mistyduck then
toxic cobalt
What dual defence buffers do you have built?
verbal karma
lemme check
keen jasper
lemme check
BP Morty?
hollow patio
What do we think about Aura Cynthia, SSErika, and SSLeaf
keen jasper
What do we think about Aura Cynthia, SSErika, and SSLeaf
Against who?
hollow patio
Wallace with perma field effects
verbal karma
verbal karma
alright, with SSA Cynthia replacing Pal Dawn, I won't need "No Stat Reduction" turned off anymore either
void wyvern
You can bring that back
verbal karma
alright, I hope that will work
keen jasper
alright, I hope that will work
So what's your team?
SSA Cynthia, Giovanni and Anni May?
verbal karma
yup
keen jasper
yup
Then Sidney will retain his Furious Brain multiplier
If you don't kill him before he syncs, his Dark Pulse will decimate everyone
verbal karma
oh, his sync already decimates Mewtwo, sadly
keen jasper
oh, his sync already decimates Mewtwo, sadly
I mean, Giovanni is weak to dark, so don't be surprised
verbal karma
well, yeah
problem is just that his psychic and sync attack don't do enough damage fast enough...
keen jasper
problem is just that his psychic and sync attack don't do enough damage fast eno...
Even with full buffs?
hollow patio
Aaaand Wallace is kil
toxic cobalt
Take that fake champion
void wyvern
Don’t do Wallace like that…
hollow patio
Phoebe: SST, Volkner, SS Brendan
Sidney: Gladion, Lillie, Sycamore
Drake: May, Skyla, Cyrus
Glacia: Silver, Blaine, Lyra
Wallace: SSL, SS Erika, Aura Cynthia
void wyvern
You can always make something in #1010274591601598555 if you want to show it off
hollow patio
Eh
toxic cobalt
Don’t do Wallace like that…
Go back to sootopolis!
swift swan
Take that fake champion
How dare you
hollow patio
That’s about as far as I was going to go in terms of bragging
void wyvern
I prefer Juan over Wallace as a gym leader.
swift swan
That’s about as far as I was going to go in terms of bragging
Making your own forum is nice so you can refer to them in the future
At least you don't have to open the game to check your hall of fame all the time
void wyvern
And occasionally people will engage you in conversation and you can flex.
toxic cobalt
I prefer Juan over Wallace as a gym leader.
Where is the Juan Whiscash sync pair?
hollow patio
Steven >>
swift swan
Dena hates adding in old men
swift swan
And occasionally people will engage you in conversation and you can flex.
I know aurochs lurks in my clears
hollow patio
Dena hates adding in old men
Where’s my summer swimsuit Wulfric alt
void wyvern
I know aurochs lurks in my clears
There’s no better place to lurk.
toxic cobalt
I know aurochs lurks in my clears
I would never engage you in conversation though
verbal karma
...no, this isn't working out
as long as Mewtwo can't survive the sync attack, this team will just not work
swift swan
I would never engage you in conversation though
but I like talking to you 
void wyvern
Don’t worry. I’ll also start lurking. With a little more conversation
Gotta convince aurochs to engage in conversation one step at a time
swift swan
as long as Mewtwo can't survive the sync attack, this team will just not work
Whenever someone has trouble like this, I'd just recommend presyncing
verbal karma
uuuuuuuugh
now Triangle Tank constantly procs
which doesn't allow me to quad queue anymore
old orchid
ah
verbal karma
...okay, gotta temporarily turn off that skill in SSA Cynthia's grid
nope, even pre-sync doesn't work 😦
even when I do manage to quad queue
the two Psychic Field buffed sync attacks from Mewtwo aren't enough
old orchid
what team your are using?
verbal karma
SSA Cynthia/Giovanni/Anni May
...on second thought, though, I only need to reach 9500 points in total, and I already have 3900 points gained through the first 2 rounds
surely, if I turn "No Stat Reduction" off for just one round and then turn it back on for the next 2 rounds, I'd still be able to reach 9500 points, right?
keen jasper
SSA Cynthia/Giovanni/Anni May
So you just need 5600 points
verbal karma
yup
if I turn off "No Stat Reduction" just for R3, I still get 5750 points
which should be more than enough, right?
keen jasper
if I turn off "No Stat Reduction" just for R3, I still get 5750 points
You mean 1750 pts.?
verbal karma
I meant in total
since 3900 + 1850 = 5750
1850 points is without "No Stat Reduction"
1950 is with "No Stat Reduction"
so...I don't see any other objections?
because 5750 + 3900 = 9650, which is definitely above 9500
now's the final chance to object
keen jasper
because 5750 + 3900 = 9650, which is definitely above 9500
You can lower 150 points for exactly 9500 points
Or....
You can reset the CS and try with the different teams and parameters
Yes, you can reset the CS @verbal karma
verbal karma
I'd rather not reset the CS, though
keen jasper
Why is that?
verbal karma
because I already had a hard time beating R2
I don't want to have that hard time a second time
keen jasper
because I already had a hard time beating R2
You can try different teams with different rounds
verbal karma
there is no different round/team to try
keen jasper
Like for example, since Sidney is more vulnerable to stat debuffs, R2 parameter will be perfect against him
pine spruce
how do I uh, flinch spam glacia properly? like is there an arrangement when she's flinched?
verbal karma
and even if it would have worked out, my team against Drake wouldn't have changed either since I don't have a good Rock-type Special Striker to begin with
pine spruce
since somehow her sides gets her moves
verbal karma
meaning that I would still have to use Olivia on Drake anway
keen jasper
and even if it would have worked out, my team against Drake wouldn't have change...
Drake will be netural at R3, it neither benefits him nor it handicaps him
verbal karma
yeah, but like I said, I already tried R2 Sidney
multiple times
and it never came even close to working
keen jasper
Did you even try debuffing his defensive stats?
pine spruce
I used Lodge Lilie on him at R2 lol
verbal karma
I don't have Lodge Lillie
keen jasper
You know, I wish there was an option to revert the unit's EX
pine spruce
and thats even with Max HP 2, 4 and 6
basically lowered his attack that his damage becomes chip damage unless crits lol
swift swan
how do I uh, flinch spam glacia properly? like is there an arrangement when she'...
flinchlock takes quite a lot of practice especially vs three enemies. the enemy pattern before they sync is mid, right, mid, left, repeat. so even if you fail your flinch on one of them, if you can predict who's gonna queue up a move next, you'll be fine
I don't know what their move pattern is after the opponent's sync though. I very rarely postsync
toxic cobalt
The main value in flinching is not locking, but just delaying them to allow for an easy double sync
pine spruce
they still use TMs and items so yeah
toxic cobalt
If you flinch a unit, they will then switch to a tm if they have it, if they don’t the attack will pass to the next pair along
Same for sleep btw
pine spruce
Pretty much my goal on her is to:
- to reduce their damage from blizzards/icy wind
- delay the sync
- get cyrus lethal enough to kill Glacia alone, then plucking sides
toxic cobalt
Cyrus?
verbal karma
anyway, I am going to ask one final time: temporarily turning off No Stat Reduction just for R3 Sidney so I get 5750 points in the end instead of 5850 points in the end, yay or nay?
because 5750 + 3900 = 9650
and my goal is 9500 points
keen jasper
If you're confident, then go for it
verbal karma
well, I am moreso confident that I can turn "No Stat Reduction" back on for R4 and R5
I already have a bit of a plan for those
nailed it!
now it's time for R4 Glacia
and this time, I am gonna use Blaine instead of SS Erika to power up SS Hilda
so I can instead use SS Erika on R5
keen jasper
Glacia should be very easy
verbal karma
the real question is: is regular Leaf a good tank or should she be replaced with someone else?
keen jasper
the real question is: is regular Leaf a good tank or should she be replaced with...
She is
verbal karma
ah, thanks
keen jasper
She can even give your team gauges with her TM
verbal karma
true
verbal karma
argh
so close
I can beat Glacia and the right side
but then the left side manages to finish off the already weakened SS Hilda with Blizzard
keen jasper
but then the left side manages to finish off the already weakened SS Hilda with ...
Because Eiscue has Ice Face, which protects it from 1 physical attack
verbal karma
but I can't focus on the sides either because SS Hilda is definitely not surviving Glacia's sync attack even with the hail removed
verbal karma
Because Eiscue has Ice Face, which protects it from 1 physical attack
that, I know of, which is why I make Blaine use Flame Wheel on it
keen jasper
that, I know of, which is why I make Blaine use Flame Wheel on it
Here's what you do, turn deny Glacia by killing her when she's about to do her sync move
Set up sun when she puts hail up
verbal karma
I...ended up turn denying her Hail instead
verbal karma
...Serena was for Sidney
keen jasper
Oh?
verbal karma
no wait, SS Serena was for Sidney
not Serena
I ended up going with Gio for Sidney anyway, though
verbal karma
alright, farming gear material to upgrade my gear did the trick
now only Wallace is left
and sure enough, defeating Wallace would give me 9650 points in the end
now I just need to do it to it
SS Erika/Brendan/Lyra is what I have planned to use against Wallace
and Brendan just so happens to have Dauntless as his Lucky Skill
which means I can use Leaf Storm without it ever getting debuffed
mmh, I'm so smart sometimes!
keen jasper
and Brendan just so happens to have Dauntless as his Lucky Skill
Berware that Wallace has Wise Entry x2
verbal karma
dw, I have beaten Wallace already
I could have lost it if Brendan would have whiffed Leaf Storm, so thank Arceus he did NOT whiff
and now I have 220 
in total
now the question is: use it on one of my favs or use is to finally solve that EBE problem that is plaguing me for so long?
pine spruce
ebe?
toxic cobalt
If you want to reset this week I recommend trying for 2K on round 1, as flinching there is OP.
small root
3 more types
I would use one sticker from fight type
But this is all I have
And Giovanni is too weak for this one
Calem Will carry the team but without a good striker I can't do it
toxic cobalt
Giovanni is a very good striker
small root
Giovanni is a very good striker
He doesn't Deal so much damage in this stage
toxic cobalt
Are you buffing his spatk?
long thicket
So Glacia is an all target spam.
long thicket
Might need top defense and status stall?
mellow linden
Not really, just need a good amount of Sp. Def. buffs and a strong damage-dealer
I murdered her with SS Hilda
Could probably just off-type with one or both of the OPikachus too
long thicket
Better N or Hau for Phoebe?
I'm not sure how you tell physical from special aside from the icon striker.
I used Sidney for Phoebe last week and it was apparently a bad call.
mellow linden
You can also check the moves to see what category it is.
Electric weak Phoebe's only major gimmick (other than just higher HP than usual) is Healthy Advantage (less damage taken unless statused), so N is likely better than Hau unless he's 1/5 (and probably even if he is 1/5, tbh). Especially since N just laughs and ignores the gimmick, no statuses required
Only one with an entry passive this week is Wallace, who has Wise Entry (so bring physical)
long thicket
I'm missing something despite EX support (Sonia) and terrain (Elesa)
mellow linden
Wdym, Classic Elesa in and of herself should be able to ruin Phoebe's day
tribal agate
am i going crazy or does Drake have one less sync cd than normal
yet i don't see HS1
mellow linden
I ran triple Elesa this week and while it was a long clear it was also a very easy one, only came close to losing an Elesa due to random Heat Wave crit
keen jasper
am i going crazy or does Drake have one less sync cd than normal
I wonder what's your team
mellow linden
am i going crazy or does Drake have one less sync cd than normal
Did you accidentally turn on a reduced countdown parameter?
keen jasper
And also your parameters too
mellow linden
I left PoH on from offense clear attempts when I Poison Stalled Agatha once
That was an interesting time
tribal agate
and i'm using SS Brock / Sonia / Kukui my usual rock killer
long thicket
She also avoids N's attacks.
mellow linden
There is a chance of dodging Bolt Strike due to 85% accuracy, yeah
What parameters are you running? You should be rolling on easy street with that team
long thicket
2k post sync.
mellow linden
Did you replace No Status Conditions and No Stat Reductions with something else?
long thicket
Not yet.
mellow linden
...Well there's a significant portion (if not the entirety) of your problem
Classic Elesa is built around exactly 2 things: Paralysis and stat debuffs
long thicket
I'm concerned about going off track.
mellow linden
Huh?
long thicket
It's complicated, but I'll take your word.
Basically, I follow what's pinned or I feel like it's undoable.
Even though I won some stages last week with parameters I don't entirely recall.
mellow linden
Pinned parameters are recommendations, not hard rules, and even in the pinned parameters it says you can replace No Status Conditions and No Stat Reductions as needed
You're shooting yourself in the foot if you rigidly stick to exactly what's in those boxes when it comes to Sync Pairs who rely on debuffs and/or statuses
And fights that require/highly encourage debuffs and/or statuses as well
mellow linden
His Sync mods are all debuff-based
So not really if No Stat Reductions is on
Other examples of Sync Pairs who need minor alterations to the recommended parameters are most offense-oriented Poison pairs, Lucian, Karen, SS Korrina, etc.
mellow linden
What specifically is going wrong? N/Sonia/Classic Elesa should have zero issues
steel kelp
For phoebe?
long thicket
They survive the sync, but then they don't last very long afterwards.
manic mica
long thicket
Most of the time, they each lose in one hit afterwards.
mellow linden
Is N EX?
long thicket
Yes, but 1/5.
mellow linden
Is his Sync KOing anyone?
long thicket
No, the sides are still behind in damage compared to Phoebe.
mellow linden
If N's Sync isn't KOing anyone Sync with Classic Elesa instead. She should be at +4 Sp. Atk. minimum due to Trainer Move
long thicket
I see, I might try that.
mellow linden
You could also use her Max Move on one of the sides so that you can KO them faster later