#Champion Stadium

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dark osprey
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Really? Nice

old orchid
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Oh yeah Mespirit

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Still forgor it exists

toxic cobalt
dark osprey
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Yeah. Freevenge is a blessing for some and a curse for many though

keen jasper
swift swan
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haven't really used mesprit outside of LG

swift swan
toxic cobalt
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I used Mespirit for week of Scottie

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Works fine

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Free move is necessary though

keen jasper
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I just wished Pressure Cooker+ 9 existed

dark osprey
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But yeah. Personally use mespirit quite a lot on rush teams where quad queue doesn't matter or denials

keen jasper
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When you're attacked, 100% chance of reducing the sync CD by 1

zealous karma
dark osprey
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But you don't know when it would trigger

zealous karma
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It says when Hp is below half or lower

old orchid
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I thought when the user was in a pinch

dark osprey
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I meant not practically

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Like trigger when you need it

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I think pressure cooker was in a pinch

zealous karma
old orchid
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iirc Lisia is the only pair having PC

zealous karma
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Hilbert has jr too

old orchid
zealous karma
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I said crisis countdown lel

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And OgMorty for some reason

old orchid
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You said critical countdown

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🐴

zealous karma
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Oh right there’s a difference 🐴

void wyvern
dark osprey
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bottom left

keen silo
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What does pressure cooker do

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Does it pressure cook my opponents slowly into edible meat

old orchid
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Once per battle, reduces the user's sync move countdown by one when in a pinch.

keen silo
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Damn

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That should've been pressure cooked 4, since it only works when your opponent is about to finish cooking you up

pine spruce
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any suggestions which E4 would go for each round?

swift swan
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R1 is good if you have a flincher on your team and want guaranteed flinches. R2 doesn't matter too much, just be careful vs Drake here. R3 can go to anyone BUT PLEASE NOT GLACIA FOR THE LOVE OF ARCEUS I'M BEGGING YOU

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R4 is a free round

main crow
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I recommend Phoebe R1 paralyze and flinchbot does wonders

swift swan
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R1 is a good cheese round

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whoever you feel like is hitting way too hard, fight them R1 and flinchlock them EthanGenius

main crow
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Luxray HE and Aggravation going crazy on R1 is so funny

toxic cobalt
swift swan
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yes actually

toxic cobalt
swift swan
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lowers AOE speed

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which would be veeery funny if he had hunter's instinct, luckily he doesn't

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waiting for Kalos CS to come with multipliers based on stat debuffs

toxic cobalt
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I stalled him round 2. Let’s see who lowers whose speed DrakePain

swift swan
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the grandpa is already very slow nooooo

old orchid
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but he says FULL SPEED AHEADDDDDD

toxic cobalt
pine spruce
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basically there's only 2 mandatory weather change needed this week

toxic cobalt
pine spruce
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also wallace

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anyway

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is R1 effect also take effect on Cerena's flinching passive?

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or its a seperate

old orchid
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no it doesnt boost the rate of passives

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it only affects the secondary effect of pokemon moves

pine spruce
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ah alright

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so bonus effects granted from grid tiles and passives will not be affected

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meanwhile moves who innately have it will be boosted

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I hope I got it right

swift swan
swift swan
swift swan
toxic cobalt
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Sadly Janine didn’t make it

spring fable
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For 2k clears, do y’all usually have time to support sync first?

toxic cobalt
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Support sync first is generally a good call

spring fable
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I’m revising on what I did to achieve 1.5k post sync this week, but realised I didn’t support sync much

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Only support sync I did was against drake and Sydney, and I guess Wallace but that’s sycamore

swift swan
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unfortunately I couldn't do it with Mina but I think that's more of my skill issue

spring fable
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Yea so I would like to ask

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Do y’all think I’ll need more supp ex or striker/tech ex?

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Ex silver played a huge part against Glacia

frosty axle
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Well you want a striker/tech to beat all stage weaknesses and support for them

spring fable
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at my current moment, I have been building teams around the on type dps, which also means if the week has a typing I dont have a good mon for, I’m kinda f-ed (I do have 2-3 teams I can off type with, but they might be part of other teams)

toxic cobalt
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Support EX are more valuable. Extra damage boost is immense.

frosty axle
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Only exceptions are like Zygarde or megas

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where you want to sync with them first

toxic cobalt
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And Oak!

spring fable
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My supports didn’t survive past sync / shortly past it, what can I do to improve?

toxic cobalt
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Win before sync

spring fable
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I dont think I can

swift swan
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presync my beloved

toxic cobalt
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Course you can

swift swan
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it's actually easier, I feel

frosty axle
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Are you bringing special defense/defense?

toxic cobalt
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Definitely easier, as you don’t have to survive the sync!

swift swan
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a lot of players' problems with CSMM come from them not surviving the sync

spring fable
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I think I did Glacia presync

frosty axle
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people not surviving sync either are using wrong parameters or support

swift swan
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postsync is a game of endurance. presync is a game of damage check

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I, for one, prefer killing mid before it can kill me

spring fable
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Hmm

toxic cobalt
spring fable
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Doubt presync will supp sync first correct?

swift swan
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it does feel daunting at first. I didn't want to do presync for the longest time because I was scared stiff whenever I saw my tank took so much damage

toxic cobalt
swift swan
spring fable
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Ah

frosty axle
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to presync you need quad queuing usually

toxic cobalt
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Just use flinch!

swift swan
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either quadqueue, turn denial, adrenaline, or some kind of sync acceleration

toxic cobalt
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Or sleep

frosty axle
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yep any of those

swift swan
spring fable
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Hmm alright, I’ll ex a few more supps, then try to keep up 850/1.5k next week

swift swan
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good luck MallowHeart you got this

spring fable
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Ty Nov!

frosty axle
spring fable
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Looking solely at infographic, looks like my main dps are ss Ethan, karen, mewtwo, bea and ghetsis

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Will change them later after I check for entries

swift swan
toxic cobalt
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Taps sign #1011675077764456519 message

swift swan
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I don't like postsync, it feels humiliating if the opponent syncs me

frosty axle
swift swan
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fair enough

toxic cobalt
swift swan
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you must be so happy now aurochs

frosty axle
toxic cobalt
frosty axle
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Apart from lack of Physical f2p grass it wasn't that bad

spring fable
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argh why do they like to give ice weak wise entry

onyx ice
keen jasper
spring fable
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wot

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guess im just unlucky

onyx ice
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SS Erika is in the general pool and in the Kanto ticket pool, so she's quite f2p friendly

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The Kanto pool i think is only 5 units

swift swan
swift swan
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Wow

frosty axle
onyx ice
spring fable
dark osprey
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ghetsis still gets the job done with his EX especially

sand karma
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Who's good to support silver against Glacia this week?

dark osprey
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do u have SS Morty?

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SS Morty and Lyra are probably the best core for Silver

sand karma
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No
I have neither:(

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Wait i have lyra

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But Im keeping her for erika

dark osprey
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oh. can try with Blaine & Lyra probably then

sand karma
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Yeah even i thought that

spring fable
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could do eggmon maybe

sand karma
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But someone was like Lyra isn't tanky enough to keep her own at 2k

formal vigil
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She can tank special stages

dark osprey
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since its purely special, may be enough with a light screen

sand karma
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The problem is I gave him dauntless or else i would've put Hilbert with him no hesitation

dark osprey
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nuke silver is easier to try out. probably can try with Hilbert as well

onyx ice
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I mean, lack of cs2 isn't that a big of a deal

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6ex silver easily one shots fire weak stages

sand karma
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I can say bye bye to dauntless but I've assumed overheat is the better move

onyx ice
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I have mine with dauntless

spring fable
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how usable is ghetsis next week?

onyx ice
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And still one shot fire weak stages with sync

spring fable
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drake has wise entry

old orchid
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He can brute force through Drake with ex support

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Also, use Candice

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Or 2/5 Hala

spring fable
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how much investment for candice?

sand karma
frosty axle
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4* power ups x20, 5* power ups x20

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50 spirits

onyx ice
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Silver has good multipliers, dauntless over weathered warrior 3/cs2 isn't that a big of a deal even if you don't use overheat

frosty axle
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Thats if you want a good EX abomasnow

onyx ice
sand karma
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Nice

onyx ice
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Maximum sync reduction

old orchid
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I think 4* is fine

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Use her with ex support

sand karma
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I did a phys weak sinnoh 2k with Skyla, Ghetsis and non ex 6* Candice
So i think it's possible with a lot of retries

spring fable
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will phoebe start the battle with ghost zone next week?

swift swan
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No, her ghost zone will be right before her sync

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Basically if you presync her, there's no need to worry about the ghost zone

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...yknow what, I'm gonna bruteforce Phoebe next week with my CCalem and EX Sidney

swift swan
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I know LucianScheme

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Last week I offtyped her

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But I'm sure Sidney can hold his weight

keen jasper
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Well, I did test Cerena's damage against her

swift swan
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...hmm

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I just... Have never used Karen because she was 2/5 for the longest time

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She's 4/5 now though

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hmmmm

main crow
swift swan
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It's alright, last time I managed to presync Fighting-weak Glacia with half sync round param

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And I'm gonna do it again if need be

keen jasper
main crow
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Does fighting weak Glacia even sets anything? All I remember was she has annoying entries

swift swan
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Iirc she has piercing gaze?

main crow
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Good thing it's not X3 entries

swift swan
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So no evasion hax

keen jasper
old orchid
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Wtf why do all Glacia stages have Blizzard

keen jasper
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Because Sheer Cold

spring fable
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Will this be ok for at least 850 next week?

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Will build candice if I struggle against drake

keen jasper
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It looks like it can 10k

spring fable
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Dont give me hope

rigid flint
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You've got really good units

keen jasper
main crow
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Drake team might struggle with gauge i think... hm

swift swan
rigid flint
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Meanwhile I'm here doing flying weak with regular blue

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And you have SS Ethan

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Swap Jasmine out for someone like skyla

swift swan
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If you want defense buffing, I'd go for Skyla tbh

spring fable
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Ah

rigid flint
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Skyla gives defense and speed so best of both worlds

main crow
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Oh yeah Skyla's perfect

swift swan
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SS Ethan can 2k. Pretty sure the stage was made for him

spring fable
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I just sorted defence stat highest to lowest

trail smelt
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I’m just gonna use Annie Steven + Annie Skylaxombo as usual

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Annie Skyla nuke is so obscene lol

swift swan
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My combo is anni steven + ss ethan for that sweet sweet MF passive stacks

rigid flint
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Damn imagine having actually competent flying type strikers

spring fable
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Guess I can try 2k for Sydney and 850 the rest

rigid flint
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I'm sure gio can 2k wallace

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Gio does bonkers damage

old orchid
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Does Flying weak Sidney have anything to counter Darach?

dark osprey
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wonder how good a nuke Serena fletchling would be

dark osprey
old orchid
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Someone said her nuke was on non ex Darach level

spring fable
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Tbh first thought that came to mind for Wallace team was it looks very squishy

dark osprey
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oh. non EX Darach was kinda nice i guess

rigid flint
dark osprey
rigid flint
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Sabrina can def take a few hits

spring fable
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Wallace does have 2 physical moves, which Sabrina has very little defence for

old orchid
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Well she has Reflect

rigid flint
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If u have pep rally 1 on reflect u can use that first for speed and defense

spring fable
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Ah I do

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Should I use some mats to ex?

old orchid
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Keep in mind that using Reflect in the first turn makes quad queue impossible

rigid flint
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Personally I'm not too sure about Drake, but does anyone know if Ghetsis can clear 2k Drake?

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Cos Drake does have wise entry

spring fable
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Meanwhile Glacia has both entries

rigid flint
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No no I meant wise entry x2

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Which doubles his base spdef

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Glacia's fine, as long as you crit those def and spdef buffs are practically non existent

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Damn Drake be bulky

spring fable
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Team build thought process was kris for SMUN and buffs, ghetsis noble roar, skyla (was jasmine) to buff def

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Maybe like a stall team? Idk if it would work

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Make sure he’s -6/-6 at all times, supp sync x2 and gustflinch

old orchid
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Is skyla exed

spring fable
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yes

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3/5 ex

frosty axle
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I hope next week has no sync cd again or I will have to use same team on Phoebe

dark osprey
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like Ghetsis EX, Lucian/Darach/Pryce, support EX works decently well as shown by Nightcaster here

onyx ice
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Anything that sets post sync is irrelevant for presync clears

dark osprey
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oh yeah. since sync nuking the way out, would have to save the B move until they set the zone I guess

onyx ice
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Like Sydney thunder weave that it can be relevant for DPS Presync

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And that annoyed me (ended up using Lisia)

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I the end for fairy weak i always end up using Lisia or Lillie (Clefairy) as the main DPS, alongside 1/5 SS wally and 3/5 6ex SS Brendan

sand karma
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You're the first person I've heard of using Lisia for dps

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Props to you

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Can Solgaleo do next week's fighting weakness?

keen jasper
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I've done it before

sand karma
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Oh thank God
Just got 1/5 Wally this week and i have no good fighting types

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Will 2/5 Falkner ex with 2/5 blue work for Sidney? Or will I not survive and get hoenn cs ptsd

swift swan
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is worth a try. grid blue with brutal clarity and fish for as many accuracy buffs as you can

frosty axle
sand karma
sand karma
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Yeah full post sync

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Hop tm *3

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I had run out of sync orbs to build Wikstrom by then

frosty axle
old orchid
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Kinda sad about Molayne grid

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Wikstrom does everything better than him

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Well except fast gauge

dark osprey
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molayne for trip wire i guess

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also wikstrom is quite vulnerable to even aoes in its sword form

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Molayne plus wikstrom is kinda nice. flinch galore

frosty axle
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I used Molayne flinch as an advantage

sand karma
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Is hala with double support better or Ghetsis with Candice for next week?

frosty axle
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I still like Candice and Ghetsis freeze together

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but Hala is strong with nuke

dark osprey
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if Hala 3/5 & EX would be easier, I feel especially since Ghetsis is going to be going up against wise entry

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can even use Candice plus Hala if needed. Hala can work on the sides so that they can be denied easily

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hope u have a good gauge support for Hala though

old orchid
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Hala also has hail multiplier

dark osprey
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ah yeah nice. wish I had a 3/5 Hala

steel kelp
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What does flying weak Sidney do?

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Or is he just bulk and damage again

dark osprey
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yeah but not as bad as flying weak Lucian

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in terms of bulk at least

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damage maybe slightly higher than Lucian

swift swan
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damage is definitely higher than lucian

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what 1.3k offensive stats at base does to a mf

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...gross, Flying-weak Sidney has Catalyst passive just to ruin the quadqueue. thank you Sidney

dark osprey
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but i guess Sidney's moves arent that crazy. dark pulse and bullet seed with no quarter. being both physical and special may be a bit tricky for some I guess

dark osprey
mellow linden
swift swan
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I swear that's definitely meant to showcase SS Ethan's sync move acceleration shenanigans

dark osprey
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oh yeah lol. catalyst not quick tempo

swift swan
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oooh my bad

dark osprey
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my bad

swift swan
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mistook it with quick tempo

mellow linden
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Fair enough

dark osprey
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think sync nuke kahili will be able to comfortably take on Sidney

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Lucian is just extra bulky that u depend on the SEUN & probably some other damage as well

full mesa
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With SEUN.

dark osprey
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ah. that was what I was not sure of

full mesa
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We can try Skyla/Kahili/KGrimsley with 2x sync buff Skyla.

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And -6 def from KGrimsley.

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But I don't know if they can take the sides.

dark osprey
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yeah. should work for centre. was thinking maybe use Zinnia finally

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first sync would go to her but yeah no weather dragon ascent

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so Zinnia, kahili & crit support should work with SEUN

full mesa
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ZinniaMRay/Acerola/Healer-speed buffer.

dark osprey
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Zinnia unfortunately needs crit as well

full mesa
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Hope for eagle eye procs

dark osprey
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lolol

steel kelp
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Blue with SS elesa should clear ok?

dark osprey
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should work i guess

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can bring in Kahili there as well I feel

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maybe Sabrina, Blue & lodge serena might be good. considering Sabrina survives

keen jasper
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Is SS Kris the only rain support unit?

subtle forge
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Yes I believe so

main crow
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She is yes

keen jasper
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Wow

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That's.... Pitiful

main crow
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I mean same with sun and sand

dark osprey
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i mean C Calem

subtle forge
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Oh right I guess him too

main crow
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Oh right he can do that too

dark osprey
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with extra steps though

keen jasper
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That's still pitiful

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We need a general pool rain support unit

subtle forge
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Maybe

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Idk

dark osprey
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weather & zone supports are usually top tier so would be rare

keen jasper
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We have a general pool ground zone unit, but never for the other types?

main crow
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If they were to make a gen pool rain support it's probably gonna be
Lyra at worst (sync only) or Courtney at best (has move but no MPR)

keen jasper
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I guess zone units would be high tier even if their grid is bad

subtle forge
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Just having reliable zone significantly boosts a unit’s usefulness

dark osprey
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i mean if we are including techs, it seems more probable

long thicket
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I managed to do a mostly gauge free Sygna Hilda once, but I can't do it against Glacia.
Was I just lucky with trainer move refresh?

mellow linden
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What was the team?

main crow
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Doesn't she have recharging strike 9?

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Perhaps you did a searing shot over v-create round which usually gives you 3 bars back

trail smelt
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Hilda has 100% chance to refill a move gauge for every target she hits

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So yeah no luck involved, it’s the difference between spamming Searing Shot and V-Create

long thicket
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My trial was Hilda, Blaine because of hail and Sygna Blue.

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I believe last time, I had anni N.

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Maybe that's why, I focused on Hilda single target move while N handled the rest.

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Oh, but I meant she didn't use the gauge the previous time, not a small refill that does seem to happen.

long thicket
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I'm sure I managed to spam one of Hilda's moves without worrying about gauge once...

swift swan
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could've been the round parameter too. if you brought anni N to the perma field effects parameter, you get permanent move gauge acceleration

mellow linden
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Ingo and SS Brendan are the 2 that come to mind, though I’m sure there’s one or 2 others

void wyvern
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No one else comes to mind for aoe freebie

dark osprey
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There's one for ssa Cynthia at 3/5 I guess

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And also NY Sabrina

rigid flint
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SS Dawn also has it

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But only at less than half hp

dark osprey
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Ah ok

spare arch
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got problem with sidney

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fyi i dont have ss wally

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all i have is diantha which i EX'd, sycamore, and i dunno who fits, just tried giovanni

dark osprey
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Who do you have supporting Diantha?

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And at what move level is she?

old orchid
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Dont use Sycamore with Diantha

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They fight for sync

toxic cobalt
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Roxaaaaane

void wyvern
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Roxanne my beloved

toxic cobalt
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Every day your avi gets christmassier

spare arch
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ah nvm

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what about wallace

old orchid
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Use a physical dmg dealer

spare arch
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ok

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dont tell me its sserika bcs she hasnt ex'd yet

old orchid
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She can handle Wallace well

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Without ex

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What move level is she

spare arch
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wait lemme check

spare arch
old orchid
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Can you her with other grass type

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send your grass roster here

spare arch
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wait

old orchid
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in move level and potential menu

spare arch
spare arch
rigid flint
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Selene works

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What's her move level?

spare arch
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max

rigid flint
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Oh it's max

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I'm blind

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Yeah Lyra and Selene work together

spare arch
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lyra, selene, and whos the last

rigid flint
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Or just use brendan instead of selene

keen jasper
rigid flint
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You can just wait for sync

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But good point

spare arch
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and should i put sserika?

rigid flint
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Lyra Selene and ss erika could work

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Sun works for lyra and allows for her to buff speed for selene

keen jasper
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And also buff Selene's crit too and grant Light Screen

rigid flint
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Yep

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Not that Selene really needs max crit because leaf blade will always crit at +2 crit

keen jasper
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Wallace is all special, so the Light Screen will be a bonus to add Lyra

spare arch
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wait hold on its kinda working lol

keen jasper
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You have to restrain your enemies first for the multiplier

rigid flint
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Yep

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You're using perma field effects right

dark osprey
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Lyra SSErika and Dawn seems like a good combo since they have Dawn EXed anyways

verbal karma
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oh jeez

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if I were to aim for 9500 points during Master Mode

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I'd be able to get 35 iChampSpirit

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man

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I am tempted to do something extremely stupid: aim for those 9500 points

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even though I was only able to clear MM once before...and it was with the Sinnoh CS, not the Hoenn CS

verbal karma
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checked the pins, and there's no suggested set for 9500 points

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I am finna have a bad time, I can feel it

old orchid
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you can choose a 2k points set and remove some parameters

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if your team can clear 2k points without much trouble, no need to reduce points

verbal karma
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the highest point set I can see in the pins is 2k, though

old orchid
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oh mb

toxic cobalt
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Take that one and remove 1 strength or whatever

old orchid
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edited my comment

verbal karma
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alright, please rate this set:

>Phys. Dmg Reduction
>Spec. Dmg Reduction
>Sync Buff ^5
>Def & Sp. Def ^3
>Max HP ^2
>Def & Sp. Def ^5
>Max HP ^4
>Ally Move Gauge Max -2
>Max HP ^6
>Strength ^6
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am getting a total of 1950 points that way, BTW

toxic cobalt
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Fine stall set

verbal karma
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thnx

toxic cobalt
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Actually I’d remove sync buff for stalling

verbal karma
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sadly, I don't get enough points if I do that

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so I need a different 100 points option in it's place

toxic cobalt
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Crit defence

verbal karma
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haha, absolutely not

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being able to crit is my only solace in a situation where both physical and special damage is reduced

toxic cobalt
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It’s free points for a stall set LanceShrug

verbal karma
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I mean...I kinda need crits myself...

old orchid
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you dont need crits when doing stall

verbal karma
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alright, fine

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Crit Defense it is

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oh yeah, my Sync Team for R1 Phoebe was Aaron/Ash/Nita due to Type Medal coverage...should I replace anyone in that team or am I gucci?

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(I hope Ash stays tbh)

toxic cobalt
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Ash will work with literally anyone but that’s not a stall team

verbal karma
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honestly, I only had Aaron and Nita due to type medal coverage

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those are the ones that can be easily replaced

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I just dunno with who, really

toxic cobalt
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Literally anyone

verbal karma
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but you just said that my current team isn't a stall team

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so which sides for Ash would make it a stall team?

toxic cobalt
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Well a stall team means no Ash

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Ash is a striker

verbal karma
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oh

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hmm...damn, almost all of my CS teams have a striker

toxic cobalt
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Just use standard pre sync params

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Strength ones

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Also don’t waste ash on round 1

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Fight a harder battle there

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okay, did a version of pre sync params that does not have "No Status Conditions", and luckily, I can get enough points with that

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alright, gonna do R1 Phoebe with the same team as I did before: Aaron/Ash/Nita

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alright, R1 beaten

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now trying to do R2 Sidney, and just realized: I can't do my Palentine's Dawn strat anymore

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can I...replace "No Stat Reduction" with "Max HP ⬆️2", perhaps?

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(in case you're wondering, my previous team for R2 Sidney was Palentine's Dawn, Valerie and SS Blue)

full mesa
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Yes but you'll need powerful nuke or powerful support because 20% up is a lot on Sidney.

frosty axle
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formal vigil
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You probably can beat it with Valerie you probably need round 3 param though with heavy support

full mesa
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Dunno. Haven't try it. But if she has good supports, I don't see why not.

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Sidney this week needs max def/spdef buffs and -6 att.

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If you're planning to play the long game.

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I mean, I am just planning to reach 9500 points in Master Mode

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hey wait

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I can just switch out stat reduction for status immunity

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not like anyone in my team against R2 Sidney can inflict statuses anyway

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no wait

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that's 50 points instead of 100

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damn

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need a different Stat Reduction replacement then

frosty axle
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heck, I was trying to make use of R2's gimmick, though

frosty axle
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oh, you mean replace Palentine Dawn with Mina?

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I don't know...both of them have Charm, but only Palentine Dawn has Fake Tears

old orchid
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Mina can nuke

frosty axle
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Yes her nuke is amazing

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oooooooooh

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replace Valerie with Mina then?

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is that right?

old orchid
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you can run both

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...so wait, Mina does replace Palentine Dawn after all?

swift swan
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Still salty I failed to OHKO Sidney with her nuke

frosty axle
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like 6k difference on first sync

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wonder if Granbull is the same

swift swan
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My best was 31k post-support EX sync with SEUP

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Without SEUP it was around 25k-29k range

frosty axle
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was that a 4*? or 5* star

swift swan
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Which wouldn't have mattered if sidney didn't decide to have base 29k HP

swift swan
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mine was hitting over 30k without se up but I did ex sync first

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guess the ex buff helps a lot

swift swan
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I synced with ex support first too. So yeah idk where it went wrong lol, I expected higher numbers

frosty axle
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which grid you using?

swift swan
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Interesting was using this

swift swan
frosty axle
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I did focus on middle a lot with play rough

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I didn't take any health parameters just strength

swift swan
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Yeah, I think I ran strength 6

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so wait

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if I replace Palentine Dawn with Mina

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what do I replace "No Stat Reduction" with then?

grand trout
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What are your params

frosty axle
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Standard parameters doesn't need no stat

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unless you want to use a status

pine spruce
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ya guys think this can win with all HP increase+phys-sp. atk reduction contract difficulty?

old orchid
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i dont think so

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do you have 2/5 Olivia?

pine spruce
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well... nope.

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Was trying earlier and actually won, pretty close one I say

keen jasper
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hella true

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Used his pots for gordie though. damn earthquakes taking a bunch of his HP

pine spruce
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But I got to experience sucking for survival

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which is "stat lowering gets buffed"

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the R2 gimmick is also why my R2 Sidney team was originally Palentine's Dawn, Valerie and SS Blue

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...okay, Max HP ^2 was definitely a bad idea...

pine spruce
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wdym

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I mean how does it "buff" the stat debuffs?

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increasing the multiplier decrease? or doubling the rank?

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sorry if I kinda popped out of nowhere though.

toxic cobalt
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It increases the decrese

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I figured as much, but, like

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Pastille does raise a good point

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in what way does it increase the decrease?

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oh my god, what the hell is going on with my internet right now?!

steel kelp
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Higher chance

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no, definitely not "higher chance"

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the chance is still the same as before

pine spruce
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in normal pkmn battles it increases/decreases stats by ±0.5x. How does it work with the stat decrease buff though?

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"higher chance" was the R1 gimmick

steel kelp
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Ah r2

pine spruce
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yea R2

trail smelt
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It means that for each stage of debuff, the effect is greater

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So -2 attack will reduce the enemy’s attack by a higher percentage compared to a round with that parameter

long thicket
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Anyway, managed Sidney after quite a few tries.
Back then, I used Diantha with seasonal Serena. Now I used Wally.

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which is why "No Stat Reduction" needs to be replaced with something else for this one battle

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for R3 onwards, I can put "No Stat Reduction" back on

mellow linden
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Lowest tier of max HP

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That’s generally the recommended thing to replace No Stat Reductions

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mellow linden
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With what team?

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And what parameters?

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mellow linden
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Well there's a large portion of your problem. Team has little synergy

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wdym

mellow linden
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Spending way too much time setting up offensive buffs

steel kelp
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Valerie does nothing

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oof

mellow linden
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You have a 2/5 Aaron lying around?

steel kelp
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Or 3/5 hilbert

mellow linden
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Or any Attack/crit Support, really

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There's like 5 of them

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Could definitely do an Attack/crit Support + Mina + an appropriate 2nd Support

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Or even just off-type depending on roster

frosty axle
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Something with potions and defensive buffs

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I like Zamazenta

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I have Aaron and Hilbert, but I gotta check what Move Level they are

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...wait

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I forgot: I already used Aaron on R1

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time to check Hilbert then

mellow linden
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Can easily just run Hilbert + MistyDuck or something

frosty axle
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or just fully offtype it

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oh...I don't have MistyDuck built at all

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Off-typing is an option too, yeah

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she's still stuck at Level 1

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what orbs were free

mellow linden
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And dupes

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And powerups

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as for Hilbert: he's 5/5

mellow linden
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(except 5-star powerups)

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so does Hilbert replace SS Blue or...?

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You're changing the entire team if Hilbert is the Support

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Hilbert + Mina + an appropriate 3rd Support

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wait

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but then I don't have a striker

mellow linden
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Mina is your striker, wdym

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Ignore the game's listed role

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Mina is your damage-dealer

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so, like, not even Summer Lyra then?

mellow linden
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I would not recommend Summer Lyra, no

subtle forge
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Summer Lyra kinda sucks

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damn

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okay, Hilbert/Mina/SS Blue

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that good?

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SS Blue is EX'd, BTW

mellow linden
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I'd recommend someone who has Potion over SS Blue, but I guess he can work

frosty axle
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Jigglypuff is terrible I've even forgot she existed

keen jasper
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well, the idea is that since SS Blue is EX'd the sync buff would be doubled

mellow linden
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I'm aware

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Is he your only EX Support?

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yup

mellow linden
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Well then your priority for the next 4 or 5 EXs would be Supports, then, at least IMO.

Can try without SS Blue and if the team fails in a way only more damage output can solve then you can either use SS Blue then or take a look at your off-type options

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Worst case scenario there's always Poison stall

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...infact, I could EX SS Elesa right now if she's a better replacement for SS Blue

mellow linden
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Not really. Doesn't provide anything of note to the team and is weak to Dark

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I was gonna EX her regardless because Elesa is one of my favs

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fair

mellow linden
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thanks

mellow linden
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Hmmmmmmmmmm

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Is your Gladion even remotely built?

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lemme check

mellow linden
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This might be a dumb idea, but could try Hilbert/Mina/Gladion and see how it goes

swift swan
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although I just gave up on gladion entirely. and mine's even EX'd

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okay, Gladion is 4/5 and has a grid...just don't know if it's a good one

mellow linden
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Tbh his grid isn't gonna be that important, maybe Crush Claw On a Roll

keen jasper
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You're either gonna build him for sync nuke or DPS

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Or Crush Claw debuff

mellow linden
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Gladion's mainly there to try and squeeze some extra damage out of the team without resorting to using your 1 Support EX

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Well, here is his grid regardless

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on second thought, I should probably replace Unbending with Vigilance

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...actually, no, even if I get rid of Unbending and X Attack MPR, I won't be able to get Vigilance...hmm...

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Vigilance isn't needed, Sidney doesn't buff his crit, iirc

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Could use him for either regular move damage by getting Superduper Effective and HP Advantage or grab Crush Claw On a Roll for Defense debuff purposes

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I mean, my Gladion already has Superduper Effective (as well as Double Down)

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since my idea for a Gladion build is to make use of his ability to change his type

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Wouldn't be using Double Down, Mina is Syncing

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speaking of Mina, I have Power Posture, but not Pecking Order 😦

mellow linden
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You'll wanna grab that

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good luck with grabbing that

frosty axle
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thats a damage grid not nuke PrycePain

mellow linden
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b-b-but then I lose out on Berserker

frosty axle
mellow linden
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Berserker is useless

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...fair

swift swan
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3/5 Hilbert tho

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you need crit

mellow linden
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They have 5/5 Hilbert

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So they're good

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...okay, no

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Hilbert was a bad idea

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he already dies to the first sync attack

mellow linden
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What parameters are you using and how many Syncs did you get before opponent's Sync?

swift swan
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I really wouldn't try postsyncing with Sidney's already bulky HP tbh

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Hilbert's a fast offensive support. he's perfect for presyncs

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Understandable

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I'm mainly asking what their parameters are because if they're using pre-Sync then of course Hilbert dies to 1st Sync

swift swan
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fair

dark osprey
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Using the stat lowering battle parameter, one could survive sync maybe

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Did get through with mina, surgechu and Sycamore

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Ok, just making sure we aren't dealing with a bigger issue here

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for the first question: I am using the 2000 Pre-Sync parameters, but without "No Status Conditions" and "No Stat Reduction" is replaced with "Max HP ^2"

mellow linden
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You'll need to quadqueue if you're doing pre-Sync

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Pre-Sync parameters mean you have to KO center before they Sync, otherwise you will die

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yeah, if you're doing presync I doubt you'll survive sync at all

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even with -6 attack on sidney

mellow linden
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If need be we can take a look at your off-type options, iirc you have SS Serena

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Who's basically a win button

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...wait, if I were to use SS Serena

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then I wouldn't be able to make use of the R2 gimmick...

mellow linden
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Could save Sidney for later and take someone else on for Round 2 then, or just ignore the gimmick

swift swan
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that's fine

mellow linden
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You aren't required to abuse every round parameter

swift swan
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switch to another stage where you can take advantage of the R2 param then

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swift swan
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I ignored the Round 3 parameter this week because most of my teams were physical and the ones that weren't preferred a different parameter

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The parameters are suggestions rather than requirements

swift swan
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drake... wants physical moves

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and I can see why you want to take advantage of R3 param if you want to use special attacks on drake

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though idk by how much it increases the power of special attacks, exactly

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...okay, yeah, my rock team...kinda made bad use of the R3 gimmick to begin with, so...uh...maybe I really SHOULD just use Drake for R2

swift swan
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oh wait

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means that I can also put "No Stat Reduction" back on

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my bad, drake doesn't want physical this week, that was last week and next week

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sounds good

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Ah, right, next week I get to test the final form of my Ice team

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alright, my original team was for R3 Drake, but...that's mainly because I had Sidney for R2, and the R2 Sidney team made better use of the R2 gimmick than my R3 Drake team made use of the R3 gimmick

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but anyway, my original R3 Drake team was Roxanne/Acerola/Olivia

swift swan
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sounds good

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had Acerola because of type medal coverage, too

mellow linden
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Why Roxanne? She doesn't do anything there

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she's the tank

swift swan
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defense I suppose. plus speed for Olivia

mellow linden
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I guess if you really want to do that

swift swan
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Olivia will need to use her TM twice to max crit, remember that though

mellow linden
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I don't like the idea of Olivia spending so many turns setting up though

swift swan
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yeah that's true

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Hop + Acerola + Olivia is a team I used back in the day

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Would just need to get the Amped Up 2 tile from Olivia's grid to counter Drake's Speed debuffs

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I used Acerola/Olivia/Hilbert this week I believe

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it barely matters. Olivia's TM debuffs special defense, and the stage is mostly physical already. it's just that Olivia will take a long time to set herself up

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TM twice to max crit, X Attack three times to max attack

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I remember that one of the sides has a special attack?

swift swan
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might be misremembering, tho

swift swan
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it does, yes. and wide guard will come in handy. but then Olivia will spend at least 5 turns setting herself up to max

mellow linden
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Noivern has Flamethrower and Heat Wave

swift swan
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and you'll lose out on damage

swift swan
mellow linden
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Yeah, just realized that

swift swan
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but he can take that I'm sure

mellow linden
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With Healthy Advantage, probably

swift swan
mellow linden
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Or whatever it's called

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Oh, wait

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Their Olivia is probably not EX

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So Heat Wave may actually matter

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Ah well, could just use Stone Edge a few times on Noivern to soften it up before Drake goes down

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hmmm. the stage has lower offensive stats than normal. Olivia might stand a chance

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also yeah, I like the idea of DPS on sides, nuke mid

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that's what I did vs rock-weak flint when my Olivia wasn't EX'd yet

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hmm...if I DPS on sides and nuke mid, then her Sp. Def debuff won't even matter

swift swan
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drake doesn't have additional bulk, at least

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which means I could then replace Roxanne with someone better

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...Hop, was it?

swift swan
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stone edge missing can hurt

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naturally

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I assume Acerola can stay?

mellow linden
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dw, I did

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anyway, I assume Acerola stays?

mellow linden
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Yeah, unless you have Bertha

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Maybe even if you do have Bertha

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I...actually do, she's just...not built, like, at all

mellow linden
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Acerola then

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Her flinches are handy anyways

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fair

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oh yeah, I should mention

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quadqueueing in R2 Drake is, like, literally impossible

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because the opponent manages to queue a move in way before the game lets me regain control

mellow linden
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Is Acerola's 1st move Sandstorm?

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nope

mellow linden
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Could be getting screwed up by Hop's Freevenge activating at a bad time

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that might be it

toxic cobalt
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Not sure why it’s impossible but no need to quadqueue if you haveAcerola

mellow linden
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Otherwise quadqueue should be 100% possible

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Fair, Acerola can flinch the left side anyways

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mellow linden
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Acerola can flinch the left side and effectively act as quadqueue, is what they mean

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oh

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...well, I haven't felt any difference

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it still felt like triplequeueing to me

mellow linden
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Well presumably you haven't flinched the left side or they used a Trainer Move as their action

toxic cobalt
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Two chances to flinch, left and middle

mellow linden
# verbal karma it still felt like triplequeueing to me

...Not sure what that means, but regardless. If Acerola flinches the left side right after Olivia Syncs then their move will be stopped and the next move will (assuming you actually queued Olivia's move at all after Sync) be forced behind Olivia's move, thus giving the same benefit as if you quadqueued

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yup, it's definitely Hop's Freevenge screwing me over!

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it happens every time Drake does his second Earthquake

mellow linden
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RNG do be like that sometimes

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Can either RNG reset or just do Acerola flinch strats

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that sadly won't help either, because like I said, neither Hop nor Olivia can survive even Drake's first sync attack

mellow linden
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...We literally just explained how Acerola flinch strats can let you get 2nd Sync before Drake Syncs

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Like, just now

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I mean, I used Acerola flinch strats

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and I am still unable to get a 2nd sync before Drake syncs

mellow linden
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And RNG reset just means resetting until Hop doesn't have Freevenge activate at the wrong time

toxic cobalt
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yes

mellow linden
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Is that what you're saying?

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no, Acerola flinched left side before Olivia synced

toxic cobalt
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Acerola flinch strats

mellow linden
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That's not what needs to happen for Acerola flinch strats

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The flinch needs to happen right after the Sync

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yeah, sadly, I can't seem to get flinches consistently after the sync

mellow linden
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So RNG reset. It's a part of CS, my friend

toxic cobalt
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Doesn’t need to be consistent, you get at least two chances

mellow linden
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I once had dozens of resets for 2 MP Refreshes

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Dozens

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okay, will try again, and this time, I'll pay more attention towards when Acerola's flinches succeed

swift swan
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oh the amount of times I reset because the opponent opens with a strong move that oneshots my tank

mellow linden
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Ah, I too remember Psychic weak Flint

toxic cobalt
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Having Lisa survive Phoebe this week was a bit of rng pain

swift swan
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Lisa?

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oh, Liza

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DAMN

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this time, I actually was able to get a second sync attack from Olivia before Drake did his first sync attack

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but guess what

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it didn't matter

mellow linden
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No crit?

keen jasper
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It didn't crit?

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because Drake's sync attack wiped out my team anyway

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keen jasper
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or maybe it does and I just haven't noticed, considering it hits like a wet towel

mellow linden
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80% chance (so a 20% chance to not crit), it happens. If one of the 2 times doesn't crit that's a reset

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It's sometimes just like that

keen jasper
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Yeah

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wait, what if those sync attacks did crit, and it's just the fact that the sync attack simply was weak even WITH crits? 😦

swift swan
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it shouldn't hit like a wet towel if it crits, Olivia's speed is maxed, and sandstorm is up

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of course, the last two are grid-reliant

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Olivia is a really good nuker

mellow linden
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Olivia's Sync should be ridiculous if she's actually gridded for Sync mods

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...so I was supposed to use Sandstorm after all

mellow linden
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Yes

swift swan
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grid her for Inertia and Sand Blaster

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keen jasper
mellow linden
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What grid are you running on Olivia right now?

keen jasper
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Or did you not read the description of the node?

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swift swan
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ungridded Olivia... eh.....

keen jasper
toxic cobalt
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Just stall man

mellow linden
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Depending on what Olivia is gridded for currently you could just reset her grid and rebuild it

toxic cobalt
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R2 is stall city

mellow linden
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Worst case scenario Poison stall exists

keen jasper
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One thing can make such a huge difference you know like setting up weather because of the multipliers

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I sadly have to sacrifice one of the 3

keen jasper
toxic cobalt
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Have you bought the monthly sync orbs

mellow linden
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Likely gonna need to off-type or Poison stall either Sidney or Drake then

keen jasper
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We have a new event right now where you can get more sync orbs

toxic cobalt
mellow linden
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Assuming no orb source remains

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keen jasper
swift swan
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actually? Olivia already has amped up 1 on passive and if Acerola can flinch drake at the right times, he won't debuff speed

mellow linden
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Tbh at this point it's probably just easier to off-type

swift swan
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very RNG reliant though

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at times like this I wish she had Haste

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I mean

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I could give Olivia a Haste Lucky Skill

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if the cookies will cooperate, that is

keen jasper
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Unless you have Sonia

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I do have Sonia!

keen jasper
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...nope

keen jasper
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And what's her move level?

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lemme check

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ah, 5/5

swift swan
keen jasper
swift swan
keen jasper
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She unlocks TM Critical Squad at 3/5

swift swan
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can she be gridded with critical squad, at least

keen jasper
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But you still need to use Olivia's TM for the accuracy buff for Stone Edge

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swift swan
mellow linden
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5/5 Sonia would be perfect

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Thank Arceus

keen jasper
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so...uh...might as well give her Haste so she has at least a Lucky Skill instead of none at all

swift swan
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so all Sonia needs is crit squad on TM. if she doesn't get MPR, it's fine because Olivia's crit will still be maxed

keen jasper
swift swan
keen jasper
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So no need to give Olivia Haste

mellow linden
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Oh, wait, is your Sonia even gridded?

swift swan
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because of team swift reaction

mellow linden
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No big deal

keen jasper
swift swan
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wait

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where's Critical Squad on Sonia?

keen jasper
mellow linden
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Top left section, iirc

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ah, there we go

keen jasper
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That's also where her TM MP refresh is

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damn, so close

swift swan
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we're really at that point in the game where we memorize grid tile positions, huh SophoKEK

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I just need to reset one skill that uses up 10 energy, then I can get Critical Squad

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but now the question is...what to reset?

mellow linden
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What's her grid rn?

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keen jasper
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That's the wrong build

mellow linden
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Just get rid of that entire bottom right section

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Like, the whole thing

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Can also remove one of the Potion MP Refreshes

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mellow linden
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Can try this one

keen jasper
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This is my usual grid for Sonia

keen jasper
mellow linden
keen jasper
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Mine has Potion MP refresh for survivability while Cobalt has Fast Track for gauge control and Inertia multiplier

mellow linden
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Either one is good

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oh, I can have Potion MP refresh AND Fast Track at the same time

mellow linden
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Yep

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all while also having Critical Squad

mellow linden
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And Trainer Move MP Refresh

keen jasper
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Yes

toxic cobalt
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What a unit

mellow linden
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Sonia's nuts

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alright, time to replace Hop with Sonia

keen jasper
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With also having guaranteed defense debuff when she attacks

mellow linden
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The downside is that you'll need to either have Drake use a status move or abuse Acerola flinch after your 1st Sync to Sync twice

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Because Sonia's Team Swift Reaction will absolutely prevent quadqueue if it activates

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But that shouldn't be a problem

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Well, you have 2 chances to flinch with Acerola

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And it's even 60% chance to flinch too

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Since your Sonia isn't EX-ed @verbal karma , then just purely focus on syncing with Olivia

toxic cobalt
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Oh is Acerola gridded With her minimal grid?

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Oh yeah, what's your grid on Acerola BTW @verbal karma ?

swift swan
swift swan
keen jasper
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if they're low on orbs

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Like literally

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Surging Sands?

swift swan
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Aggravation and Sandstorm MPR are all she needs. nothing else matters

keen jasper
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oh

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And you candied her too?

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oh shit yeah is that a 2/5 acerola

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...hopefully you got her free dupe way back when and didn't actually candy her?

toxic cobalt
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When was that?

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I think the 2/5 was BECAUSE of the dupe?

toxic cobalt
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Anyway just get aggravation

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and you're gold

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alright, just did

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And possibly Sandstorm MP refresh

swift swan
# keen jasper When was that?

like, when the game first launched we didn't have candies yet, so to get dupes for story pairs, there were events gifting it

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Oh, so back in 2019/2020 then

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Same reason you see some people with 2/5 Rosa.

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Right

swift swan
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not that I know any of this from experience, I just heard stories

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okay, got Sandstorm MP refresh and Astonish Aggravation...but still no Sand Blaster on Olivia...

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I guess I get rid of Stone Edge Amped Up 2 for Sand Blaster?

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events don't give enough Corb ?

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haha, nope

keen jasper
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the monthly one?

keen jasper
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oh, I haven't started the Christmas event yet

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I am still busy finishing up the Rocket event

toxic cobalt
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Then clearly not "haha, nope" CourtneyBruh

mellow linden
toxic cobalt
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In fact use all 999 stamina and you get 1000 Corb from the special rally

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...okay, got good Sync Orb RNG from Trainer lodge

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let's hope that is enough

keen jasper
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And also get those 2000 Corb from the Christmas event too

toxic cobalt
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3000 easy Corb

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alright, the Trainer Lodge sync orbs were enough!

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Stone Edge Amped Up 2, Inertia, Sand Blaster 5, it's all here now

keen jasper
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...wait, Sonia sync?

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Oh wait, NVM

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I forgot your Sonia isn't EX-ed

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But still, try to flinch the left side first when doing your first sync

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If failed, try to flinch Drake next

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unless an extreme emergency happens that requires me to EX a sync pair, I'd rather not change my initial plan for sync pair EXing

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which is "EX all versions of my favs"

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And also, try to flinch the sides when you're doing Olivia's 2nd sync because the sides will go ham with AoEs

toxic cobalt
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I've got Valerie working better this week but sadly don't think I'm going to push through with a win from her. ValeriePlead

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Valerie doesn’t do enough on her own. She needs someone to hold her hand,

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ALMOST

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I can get two sync attacks off with Olivia

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Olivia even survives Drake's sync attack

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I manage to defeat Drake and the left side