#Champion Stadium
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Because why would you have mespirits#’s grid
Yeah. Freevenge is a blessing for some and a curse for many though
Counter abilities are mostly a curse
haven't really used mesprit outside of LG
it ruins your quadqueue window 😦
I just wished Pressure Cooker+ 9 existed
But yeah. Personally use mespirit quite a lot on rush teams where quad queue doesn't matter or denials
When you're attacked, 100% chance of reducing the sync CD by 1
Isn’t that just critical countdown
But you don't know when it would trigger
It says when Hp is below half or lower
I thought when the user was in a pinch
I meant not practically
Like trigger when you need it
I think pressure cooker was in a pinch
iirc Lisia is the only pair having PC
Hilbert has jr too
Oh right there’s a difference 🐴
Where the hell is pressure cooker on Hilbert’s grid
bottom left
What does pressure cooker do
Does it pressure cook my opponents slowly into edible meat
Once per battle, reduces the user's sync move countdown by one when in a pinch.
Damn
That should've been pressure cooked 4, since it only works when your opponent is about to finish cooking you up
any suggestions which E4 would go for each round?
R1 is good if you have a flincher on your team and want guaranteed flinches. R2 doesn't matter too much, just be careful vs Drake here. R3 can go to anyone BUT PLEASE NOT GLACIA FOR THE LOVE OF ARCEUS I'M BEGGING YOU
R4 is a free round
I recommend Phoebe R1 paralyze and flinchbot does wonders
R1 is a good cheese round
whoever you feel like is hitting way too hard, fight them R1 and flinchlock them 
Luxray HE and Aggravation going crazy on R1 is so funny
Pfff what’s drake gonna do, lower my speed?
yes actually
Also depends on your teams !
lowers AOE speed
which would be veeery funny if he had hunter's instinct, luckily he doesn't
waiting for Kalos CS to come with multipliers based on stat debuffs
I stalled him round 2. Let’s see who lowers whose speed 
but he says FULL SPEED AHEADDDDDD
good thing I'm not a masochist 
basically there's only 2 mandatory weather change needed this week
Glacia turn 1 and Glacia turn 6
also wallace
anyway
is R1 effect also take effect on Cerena's flinching passive?
or its a seperate
no it doesnt boost the rate of passives
it only affects the secondary effect of pokemon moves
ah alright
so bonus effects granted from grid tiles and passives will not be affected
meanwhile moves who innately have it will be boosted
I hope I got it right
he's old, his full speed means 246 at 6*EX
8 sync buffs and drake's still not at half HP? bruh??
yup, that's how it seems to work
It’s called playing with your food
Sadly Janine didn’t make it
For 2k clears, do y’all usually have time to support sync first?
Support sync first is generally a good call
I’m revising on what I did to achieve 1.5k post sync this week, but realised I didn’t support sync much
Only support sync I did was against drake and Sydney, and I guess Wallace but that’s sycamore
usually I'm confident my damage dealer can oneshot mid after a support EX sync if I set them up properly, so yes i bring EX support most if not all the time and sync with them first
unfortunately I couldn't do it with Mina but I think that's more of my skill issue
Yea so I would like to ask
Do y’all think I’ll need more supp ex or striker/tech ex?
Ex silver played a huge part against Glacia
Well you want a striker/tech to beat all stage weaknesses and support for them
at my current moment, I have been building teams around the on type dps, which also means if the week has a typing I dont have a good mon for, I’m kinda f-ed (I do have 2-3 teams I can off type with, but they might be part of other teams)
Support EX are more valuable. Extra damage boost is immense.
And Oak!
My supports didn’t survive past sync / shortly past it, what can I do to improve?
Win before sync
I dont think I can
presync my beloved
Course you can
it's actually easier, I feel
Are you bringing special defense/defense?
Definitely easier, as you don’t have to survive the sync!
a lot of players' problems with CSMM come from them not surviving the sync
I think I did Glacia presync
people not surviving sync either are using wrong parameters or support
postsync is a game of endurance. presync is a game of damage check
I, for one, prefer killing mid before it can kill me
Hmm
She’ll be one of the harder ones
Doubt presync will supp sync first correct?
it does feel daunting at first. I didn't want to do presync for the longest time because I was scared stiff whenever I saw my tank took so much damage
Why not
I still prioritize my support EX sync, whether presync or postsync
Ah
to presync you need quad queuing usually
Just use flinch!
either quadqueue, turn denial, adrenaline, or some kind of sync acceleration
Or sleep
yep any of those
there was a time I saw SS Kris got one-shotted with Sidney's opener Seed Bomb. haha fun times
Hmm alright, I’ll ex a few more supps, then try to keep up 850/1.5k next week
good luck
you got this
Ty Nov!
I don't do it because I have to restart runs too much, post sync I barely have to
Looking solely at infographic, looks like my main dps are ss Ethan, karen, mewtwo, bea and ghetsis
Will change them later after I check for entries
for me, resetting is one of the charms of presync lmao
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I don't like postsync, it feels humiliating if the opponent syncs me
I guess but it's annoying for recording
fair enough
So true
hm
you must be so happy now aurochs
did you do any F2P runs for Hoenn yet?
I mean I did last rotation. I didn’t really play last week but I’ll do it this week. Feels easy so far,
Apart from lack of Physical f2p grass it wasn't that bad
argh why do they like to give ice weak wise entry
The best f2p physical damage is probably Sycamore, or sync nuke Ramos
Because majority of ice DDs are physical
SS Erika is in the general pool and in the Kanto ticket pool, so she's quite f2p friendly
The Kanto pool i think is only 5 units
This is the only ice-weak with wise entry x2, actually
sync nuke Ramos
Wow
Ye I forgot about Ramos well Silver worked anyway and already used Xerneas
His nuke isn't that bad, i did a showcase (not this week) in grassy terrain and wasn't that bad
Can’t use ghetsis 
ghetsis still gets the job done with his EX especially
Who's good to support silver against Glacia this week?
oh. can try with Blaine & Lyra probably then
Yeah even i thought that
could do eggmon maybe
But someone was like Lyra isn't tanky enough to keep her own at 2k
She can tank special stages
since its purely special, may be enough with a light screen
The problem is I gave him dauntless or else i would've put Hilbert with him no hesitation
nuke silver is easier to try out. probably can try with Hilbert as well
I mean, lack of cs2 isn't that a big of a deal
6ex silver easily one shots fire weak stages
I can say bye bye to dauntless but I've assumed overheat is the better move
I have mine with dauntless
how usable is ghetsis next week?
And still one shot fire weak stages with sync
drake has wise entry
how much investment for candice?
I think grid is essential if she's syncing
Silver has good multipliers, dauntless over weathered warrior 3/cs2 isn't that a big of a deal even if you don't use overheat
Thats if you want a good EX abomasnow
What parameters do you use
Full offense
Nice
Maximum sync reduction
Upgrade her to 5*
I think 4* is fine
Use her with ex support
I did a phys weak sinnoh 2k with Skyla, Ghetsis and non ex 6* Candice
So i think it's possible with a lot of retries
will phoebe start the battle with ghost zone next week?
No, her ghost zone will be right before her sync
Basically if you presync her, there's no need to worry about the ghost zone
...yknow what, I'm gonna bruteforce Phoebe next week with my CCalem and EX Sidney
Sentry Entry x2
Well, I did test Cerena's damage against her
Karen denial 
...hmm
I just... Have never used Karen because she was 2/5 for the longest time
She's 4/5 now though
hmmmm
Inb4 half sync parameter next week
It's alright, last time I managed to presync Fighting-weak Glacia with half sync round param
And I'm gonna do it again if need be
What about half sync Glacia?
Does fighting weak Glacia even sets anything? All I remember was she has annoying entries
Iirc she has piercing gaze?
Good thing it's not X3 entries
So no evasion hax
Her entries aren't multiple
Wtf why do all Glacia stages have Blizzard
Because Sheer Cold
Will this be ok for at least 850 next week?
Will build candice if I struggle against drake
It looks like it can 10k
Dont give me hope
You've got really good units
No cap
Drake team might struggle with gauge i think... 
Drake team might have gauge issues considering jasmine is pretty slow
Meanwhile I'm here doing flying weak with regular blue
And you have SS Ethan
Swap Jasmine out for someone like skyla
If you want defense buffing, I'd go for Skyla tbh
I chose jasmine cause drake is physical…
Ah
Skyla gives defense and speed so best of both worlds
Oh yeah Skyla's perfect
SS Ethan can 2k. Pretty sure the stage was made for him
I just sorted defence stat highest to lowest
Yeahh
I’m just gonna use Annie Steven + Annie Skylaxombo as usual
Annie Skyla nuke is so obscene lol
My combo is anni steven + ss ethan for that sweet sweet MF passive stacks
Damn imagine having actually competent flying type strikers
Guess I can try 2k for Sydney and 850 the rest
Does Flying weak Sidney have anything to counter Darach?
wonder how good a nuke Serena fletchling would be
guess not. want to try him too
Someone said her nuke was on non ex Darach level
Tbh first thought that came to mind for Wallace team was it looks very squishy
oh. non EX Darach was kinda nice i guess
Well that's not that much of a concern considering they'll wipe out the stage before doing that much damage
maybe some healing from Sabrina TM would help
Sabrina can def take a few hits
Wallace does have 2 physical moves, which Sabrina has very little defence for
Well she has Reflect
If u have pep rally 1 on reflect u can use that first for speed and defense
Keep in mind that using Reflect in the first turn makes quad queue impossible
Personally I'm not too sure about Drake, but does anyone know if Ghetsis can clear 2k Drake?
Cos Drake does have wise entry
Meanwhile Glacia has both entries
No no I meant wise entry x2
Which doubles his base spdef
Glacia's fine, as long as you crit those def and spdef buffs are practically non existent
Damn Drake be bulky
Team build thought process was kris for SMUN and buffs, ghetsis noble roar, skyla (was jasmine) to buff def
Maybe like a stall team? Idk if it would work
Make sure he’s -6/-6 at all times, supp sync x2 and gustflinch
Is skyla exed
I hope next week has no sync cd again or I will have to use same team on Phoebe
yes. with the EX and a support EX sync along with proper debuffs to maximize the nuke. can also clear post sync if not working too well
like Ghetsis EX, Lucian/Darach/Pryce, support EX works decently well as shown by Nightcaster here
Depends, she can still override dark zone before the final hit if you go DPS route
Anything that sets post sync is irrelevant for presync clears
oh yeah. since sync nuking the way out, would have to save the B move until they set the zone I guess
Like Sydney thunder weave that it can be relevant for DPS Presync
And that annoyed me (ended up using Lisia)
I the end for fairy weak i always end up using Lisia or Lillie (Clefairy) as the main DPS, alongside 1/5 SS wally and 3/5 6ex SS Brendan
You're the first person I've heard of using Lisia for dps
Props to you
Can Solgaleo do next week's fighting weakness?
Definitely
I've done it before
Oh thank God
Just got 1/5 Wally this week and i have no good fighting types
Will 2/5 Falkner ex with 2/5 blue work for Sidney? Or will I not survive and get hoenn cs ptsd
is worth a try. grid blue with brutal clarity and fish for as many accuracy buffs as you can
definitely there is no earthquakes
Oh that's a relief
I had to give up steel weak Bertha cuz he kept dying to one sync
Even with defense buffs?
I used Molayne on her
Kinda sad about Molayne grid
Wikstrom does everything better than him
Well except fast gauge
molayne for trip wire i guess
also wikstrom is quite vulnerable to even aoes in its sword form
Molayne plus wikstrom is kinda nice. flinch galore
I used Molayne flinch as an advantage
Is hala with double support better or Ghetsis with Candice for next week?
if Hala 3/5 & EX would be easier, I feel especially since Ghetsis is going to be going up against wise entry
can even use Candice plus Hala if needed. Hala can work on the sides so that they can be denied easily
hope u have a good gauge support for Hala though
Hala also has hail multiplier
ah yeah nice. wish I had a 3/5 Hala
yeah but not as bad as flying weak Lucian
in terms of bulk at least
damage maybe slightly higher than Lucian
damage is definitely higher than lucian
what 1.3k offensive stats at base does to a mf
...gross, Flying-weak Sidney has Catalyst passive just to ruin the quadqueue. thank you Sidney
but i guess Sidney's moves arent that crazy. dark pulse and bullet seed with no quarter. being both physical and special may be a bit tricky for some I guess
haha. yeah. denials or nuke then
How would that ruin quadqueue? Catalyst is after Sync
I swear that's definitely meant to showcase SS Ethan's sync move acceleration shenanigans
oh yeah lol. catalyst not quick tempo
oooh my bad
my bad
mistook it with quick tempo
Fair enough
think sync nuke kahili will be able to comfortably take on Sidney
Lucian is just extra bulky that u depend on the SEUN & probably some other damage as well
With SEUN.
ah. that was what I was not sure of
We can try Skyla/Kahili/KGrimsley with 2x sync buff Skyla.
And -6 def from KGrimsley.
But I don't know if they can take the sides.
yeah. should work for centre. was thinking maybe use Zinnia finally
first sync would go to her but yeah no weather dragon ascent
so Zinnia, kahili & crit support should work with SEUN
ZinniaMRay/Acerola/Healer-speed buffer.
Zinnia unfortunately needs crit as well
Hope for eagle eye procs
lolol
Blue with SS elesa should clear ok?
should work i guess
can bring in Kahili there as well I feel
maybe Sabrina, Blue & lodge serena might be good. considering Sabrina survives
Is SS Kris the only rain support unit?
Yes I believe so
She is yes
I mean same with sun and sand
i mean C Calem
Oh right I guess him too
Oh right he can do that too
with extra steps though
weather & zone supports are usually top tier so would be rare
We have a general pool ground zone unit, but never for the other types?
If they were to make a gen pool rain support it's probably gonna be
Lyra at worst (sync only) or Courtney at best (has move but no MPR)
I guess zone units would be high tier even if their grid is bad
Just having reliable zone significantly boosts a unit’s usefulness
i mean if we are including techs, it seems more probable
I managed to do a mostly gauge free Sygna Hilda once, but I can't do it against Glacia.
Was I just lucky with trainer move refresh?
What was the team?
Doesn't she have recharging strike 9?
Perhaps you did a searing shot over v-create round which usually gives you 3 bars back
Hilda has 100% chance to refill a move gauge for every target she hits
So yeah no luck involved, it’s the difference between spamming Searing Shot and V-Create
My trial was Hilda, Blaine because of hail and Sygna Blue.
I believe last time, I had anni N.
Maybe that's why, I focused on Hilda single target move while N handled the rest.
Oh, but I meant she didn't use the gauge the previous time, not a small refill that does seem to happen.
I'm sure I managed to spam one of Hilda's moves without worrying about gauge once...
could've been the round parameter too. if you brought anni N to the perma field effects parameter, you get permanent move gauge acceleration
Free Move effect would have been from a Support
Ingo and SS Brendan are the 2 that come to mind, though I’m sure there’s one or 2 others
No one else comes to mind for aoe freebie
Ah ok
got problem with sidney
fyi i dont have ss wally
all i have is diantha which i EX'd, sycamore, and i dunno who fits, just tried giovanni
Roxaaaaane
Roxanne my beloved
Every day your avi gets christmassier
Use a physical dmg dealer
wait lemme check
1 🥲
wait
in move level and potential menu
there u go
max
lyra, selene, and whos the last
Or just use brendan instead of selene
Even if Wallace has Wise Entry x2?
and should i put sserika?
Lyra Selene and ss erika could work
Sun works for lyra and allows for her to buff speed for selene
And also buff Selene's crit too and grant Light Screen
Yep
Not that Selene really needs max crit because leaf blade will always crit at +2 crit
Wallace is all special, so the Light Screen will be a bonus to add Lyra
wait hold on its kinda working lol
You have to restrain your enemies first for the multiplier
Lyra SSErika and Dawn seems like a good combo since they have Dawn EXed anyways
oh jeez
if I were to aim for 9500 points during Master Mode
I'd be able to get 35 
man
I am tempted to do something extremely stupid: aim for those 9500 points
even though I was only able to clear MM once before...and it was with the Sinnoh CS, not the Hoenn CS
it's not stupid at all
checked the pins, and there's no suggested set for 9500 points

I am finna have a bad time, I can feel it
you can choose a 2k points set and remove some parameters
if your team can clear 2k points without much trouble, no need to reduce points
the highest point set I can see in the pins is 2k, though
oh mb
Take that one and remove 1 strength or whatever
edited my comment
alright, please rate this set:
>Phys. Dmg Reduction
>Spec. Dmg Reduction
>Sync Buff ^5
>Def & Sp. Def ^3
>Max HP ^2
>Def & Sp. Def ^5
>Max HP ^4
>Ally Move Gauge Max -2
>Max HP ^6
>Strength ^6
am getting a total of 1950 points that way, BTW
Fine stall set
thnx
Actually I’d remove sync buff for stalling
sadly, I don't get enough points if I do that
so I need a different 100 points option in it's place
Crit defence
haha, absolutely not
being able to crit is my only solace in a situation where both physical and special damage is reduced
It’s free points for a stall set 
I mean...I kinda need crits myself...
you dont need crits when doing stall
alright, fine
Crit Defense it is
oh yeah, my Sync Team for R1 Phoebe was Aaron/Ash/Nita due to Type Medal coverage...should I replace anyone in that team or am I gucci?
(I hope Ash stays tbh)
Ash will work with literally anyone but that’s not a stall team
honestly, I only had Aaron and Nita due to type medal coverage
those are the ones that can be easily replaced
I just dunno with who, really
Literally anyone
but you just said that my current team isn't a stall team
so which sides for Ash would make it a stall team?
Just use standard pre sync params
Strength ones
Also don’t waste ash on round 1
Fight a harder battle there
okay, did a version of pre sync params that does not have "No Status Conditions", and luckily, I can get enough points with that
alright, gonna do R1 Phoebe with the same team as I did before: Aaron/Ash/Nita
alright, R1 beaten
now trying to do R2 Sidney, and just realized: I can't do my Palentine's Dawn strat anymore
can I...replace "No Stat Reduction" with "Max HP ⬆️2", perhaps?
(in case you're wondering, my previous team for R2 Sidney was Palentine's Dawn, Valerie and SS Blue)
Yes but you'll need powerful nuke or powerful support because 20% up is a lot on Sidney.
You can always try Granbull and Lillie Comfey since they debuff
I don't have Lillie Comfey
...I assume Valerie ain't powerful enough, huh?
You probably can beat it with Valerie you probably need round 3 param though with heavy support
Dunno. Haven't try it. But if she has good supports, I don't see why not.
damn...I already have R3 reserved for Drake, though
Sidney this week needs max def/spdef buffs and -6 att.
If you're planning to play the long game.
I mean, I am just planning to reach 9500 points in Master Mode
hey wait
I can just switch out stat reduction for status immunity
not like anyone in my team against R2 Sidney can inflict statuses anyway
no wait
that's 50 points instead of 100
damn
need a different Stat Reduction replacement then
then use Mina with other support
heck, I was trying to make use of R2's gimmick, though
yes and Mina is good for it
oh, you mean replace Palentine Dawn with Mina?
I don't know...both of them have Charm, but only Palentine Dawn has Fake Tears
Mina can nuke
Yes her nuke is amazing
you can run both
...so wait, Mina does replace Palentine Dawn after all?
When I was testing tech nukes like Candice and Abomasnow I found the nuke damage range quite a lot
like 6k difference on first sync
wonder if Granbull is the same
My best was 31k post-support EX sync with SEUP
Without SEUP it was around 25k-29k range
was that a 4*? or 5* star
Which wouldn't have mattered if sidney didn't decide to have base 29k HP
5* Mina
mine was hitting over 30k without se up but I did ex sync first
guess the ex buff helps a lot
I synced with ex support first too. So yeah idk where it went wrong lol, I expected higher numbers
which grid you using?

Interesting was using this

I did focus on middle a lot with play rough
I didn't take any health parameters just strength
Yeah, I think I ran strength 6
so wait
if I replace Palentine Dawn with Mina
what do I replace "No Stat Reduction" with then?
What are your params
ya guys think this can win with all HP increase+phys-sp. atk reduction contract difficulty?
If you didn't have Kiawe to buff crit, Lana wouldn't have survived
hella true
Used his pots for gordie though. damn earthquakes taking a bunch of his HP
Also without Gordie's Max Move and burn-on-hit, I wouldn't have survived the heat waves
But I got to experience sucking for survival
I want to make use of the R2 gimmick
which is "stat lowering gets buffed"
the R2 gimmick is also why my R2 Sidney team was originally Palentine's Dawn, Valerie and SS Blue
...okay, Max HP ^2 was definitely a bad idea...
how the hell that works though?
wdym
I mean how does it "buff" the stat debuffs?
increasing the multiplier decrease? or doubling the rank?
sorry if I kinda popped out of nowhere though.
It increases the decrese
I figured as much, but, like
Pastille does raise a good point
in what way does it increase the decrease?
oh my god, what the hell is going on with my internet right now?!
Higher chance
in normal pkmn battles it increases/decreases stats by ±0.5x. How does it work with the stat decrease buff though?
"higher chance" was the R1 gimmick
Ah r2
yea R2
It means that for each stage of debuff, the effect is greater
So -2 attack will reduce the enemy’s attack by a higher percentage compared to a round with that parameter
Then I have no idea, I'd have to wait for a Sinnoh stadium to check how I won Fire weak.
Anyway, managed Sidney after quite a few tries.
Back then, I used Diantha with seasonal Serena. Now I used Wally.
and I am trying to make use of that, even in Master Mode
which is why "No Stat Reduction" needs to be replaced with something else for this one battle
for R3 onwards, I can put "No Stat Reduction" back on
Lowest tier of max HP
That’s generally the recommended thing to replace No Stat Reductions
you mean Max HP ^2? because I tried that, and I failed
Palentine Dawn/Valerie/SS Blue (EX)
Well there's a large portion of your problem. Team has little synergy
wdym
Spending way too much time setting up offensive buffs
Valerie does nothing
oof
You have a 2/5 Aaron lying around?
Or 3/5 hilbert
Or any Attack/crit Support, really
There's like 5 of them
Could definitely do an Attack/crit Support + Mina + an appropriate 2nd Support
Or even just off-type depending on roster
I have Aaron and Hilbert, but I gotta check what Move Level they are
...wait
I forgot: I already used Aaron on R1
time to check Hilbert then
No big deal, I only recommended him 1st because he covers Defense and Sp. Def. buffs too
Can easily just run Hilbert + MistyDuck or something
or just fully offtype it
oh...I don't have MistyDuck built at all
Off-typing is an option too, yeah
she's still stuck at Level 1
what orbs were free
as for Hilbert: he's 5/5
(except 5-star powerups)
so does Hilbert replace SS Blue or...?
You're changing the entire team if Hilbert is the Support
Hilbert + Mina + an appropriate 3rd Support

Mina is your damage-dealer
so, like, not even Summer Lyra then?
I would not recommend Summer Lyra, no
Summer Lyra kinda sucks
I'd recommend someone who has Potion over SS Blue, but I guess he can work
Jigglypuff is terrible I've even forgot she existed
For Sidney yes?
well, the idea is that since SS Blue is EX'd the sync buff would be doubled
yup
Well then your priority for the next 4 or 5 EXs would be Supports, then, at least IMO.
Can try without SS Blue and if the team fails in a way only more damage output can solve then you can either use SS Blue then or take a look at your off-type options
Worst case scenario there's always Poison stall
well, I did plan to EX SS Elesa next
...infact, I could EX SS Elesa right now if she's a better replacement for SS Blue
Not really. Doesn't provide anything of note to the team and is weak to Dark
Excellent taste
thanks
lemme check
This might be a dumb idea, but could try Hilbert/Mina/Gladion and see how it goes
it might just work
although I just gave up on gladion entirely. and mine's even EX'd
okay, Gladion is 4/5 and has a grid...just don't know if it's a good one
Tbh his grid isn't gonna be that important, maybe Crush Claw On a Roll
Gladion's mainly there to try and squeeze some extra damage out of the team without resorting to using your 1 Support EX
Well, here is his grid regardless
on second thought, I should probably replace Unbending with Vigilance
...actually, no, even if I get rid of Unbending and X Attack MPR, I won't be able to get Vigilance...hmm...
Vigilance isn't needed, Sidney doesn't buff his crit, iirc
Could use him for either regular move damage by getting Superduper Effective and HP Advantage or grab Crush Claw On a Roll for Defense debuff purposes
I mean, my Gladion already has Superduper Effective (as well as Double Down)
since my idea for a Gladion build is to make use of his ability to change his type
Wouldn't be using Double Down, Mina is Syncing
speaking of Mina, I have Power Posture, but not Pecking Order 😦
You'll wanna grab that
thats a damage grid not nuke 
Just did, with energy to spare
b-b-but then I lose out on Berserker
Hilbert covers your Attack buffs
Berserker is useless
...fair
What parameters are you using and how many Syncs did you get before opponent's Sync?
I really wouldn't try postsyncing with Sidney's already bulky HP tbh
Hilbert's a fast offensive support. he's perfect for presyncs
Understandable
I'm mainly asking what their parameters are because if they're using pre-Sync then of course Hilbert dies to 1st Sync
fair
Using the stat lowering battle parameter, one could survive sync maybe
Did get through with mina, surgechu and Sycamore
for the second question: I got one sync off
Ok, just making sure we aren't dealing with a bigger issue here
for the first question: I am using the 2000 Pre-Sync parameters, but without "No Status Conditions" and "No Stat Reduction" is replaced with "Max HP ^2"
You'll need to quadqueue if you're doing pre-Sync
Pre-Sync parameters mean you have to KO center before they Sync, otherwise you will die
yeah, if you're doing presync I doubt you'll survive sync at all
even with -6 attack on sidney
If need be we can take a look at your off-type options, iirc you have SS Serena
Who's basically a win button
...wait, if I were to use SS Serena
then I wouldn't be able to make use of the R2 gimmick...
Could save Sidney for later and take someone else on for Round 2 then, or just ignore the gimmick
that's fine
You aren't required to abuse every round parameter
switch to another stage where you can take advantage of the R2 param then
I mean, I already have R3 reserved for Drake...
Round parameter: status conditions are more effective!
Me: picks no status condition
I ignored the Round 3 parameter this week because most of my teams were physical and the ones that weren't preferred a different parameter
The parameters are suggestions rather than requirements
drake... wants physical moves
and I can see why you want to take advantage of R3 param if you want to use special attacks on drake
though idk by how much it increases the power of special attacks, exactly
...okay, yeah, my rock team...kinda made bad use of the R3 gimmick to begin with, so...uh...maybe I really SHOULD just use Drake for R2
oh wait
means that I can also put "No Stat Reduction" back on
my bad, drake doesn't want physical this week, that was last week and next week
sounds good
Ah, right, next week I get to test the final form of my Ice team
alright, my original team was for R3 Drake, but...that's mainly because I had Sidney for R2, and the R2 Sidney team made better use of the R2 gimmick than my R3 Drake team made use of the R3 gimmick
but anyway, my original R3 Drake team was Roxanne/Acerola/Olivia
sounds good
had Acerola because of type medal coverage, too
Why Roxanne? She doesn't do anything there
she's the tank
defense I suppose. plus speed for Olivia
I guess if you really want to do that
Olivia will need to use her TM twice to max crit, remember that though
I don't like the idea of Olivia spending so many turns setting up though
yeah that's true
Hop + Acerola + Olivia is a team I used back in the day
Would just need to get the Amped Up 2 tile from Olivia's grid to counter Drake's Speed debuffs
I used Acerola/Olivia/Hilbert this week I believe
don't worry, Roxanne has Wide Guard to protect Olivia from AoE
it barely matters. Olivia's TM debuffs special defense, and the stage is mostly physical already. it's just that Olivia will take a long time to set herself up
TM twice to max crit, X Attack three times to max attack
I remember that one of the sides has a special attack?
this is a pretty good one
might be misremembering, tho
it does, yes. and wide guard will come in handy. but then Olivia will spend at least 5 turns setting herself up to max
Noivern has Flamethrower and Heat Wave
and you'll lose out on damage
oof. Hop's weak to fire
Yeah, just realized that
but he can take that I'm sure
With Healthy Advantage, probably
flamethrower, yes. Heat Wave? maybe at full HP
Or whatever it's called
Oh, wait
Their Olivia is probably not EX
So Heat Wave may actually matter
Ah well, could just use Stone Edge a few times on Noivern to soften it up before Drake goes down
hmmm. the stage has lower offensive stats than normal. Olivia might stand a chance
also yeah, I like the idea of DPS on sides, nuke mid
that's what I did vs rock-weak flint when my Olivia wasn't EX'd yet
hmm...if I DPS on sides and nuke mid, then her Sp. Def debuff won't even matter
drake doesn't have additional bulk, at least
exactly. though even if you bring a crit buffer like Hop, I do suggest using her TM at least once to give her accuracy
stone edge missing can hurt
Hop, yeah. Make sure you get Olivia's Amped Up grid tile so she can stay on top of Drake's Speed debuffs
I...actually do, she's just...not built, like, at all
fair
oh yeah, I should mention
quadqueueing in R2 Drake is, like, literally impossible
because the opponent manages to queue a move in way before the game lets me regain control
Is Acerola's 1st move Sandstorm?
nope
Could be getting screwed up by Hop's Freevenge activating at a bad time
that might be it
Not sure why it’s impossible but no need to quadqueue if you haveAcerola
Otherwise quadqueue should be 100% possible
Fair, Acerola can flinch the left side anyways
I...kinda do need to quadqueue because neither Hop nor Olivia can survive Drake's first sync
Acerola can flinch the left side and effectively act as quadqueue, is what they mean
oh
...well, I haven't felt any difference
it still felt like triplequeueing to me
Well presumably you haven't flinched the left side or they used a Trainer Move as their action
Two chances to flinch, left and middle
...Not sure what that means, but regardless. If Acerola flinches the left side right after Olivia Syncs then their move will be stopped and the next move will (assuming you actually queued Olivia's move at all after Sync) be forced behind Olivia's move, thus giving the same benefit as if you quadqueued
yup, it's definitely Hop's Freevenge screwing me over!
it happens every time Drake does his second Earthquake
RNG do be like that sometimes
Can either RNG reset or just do Acerola flinch strats
that sadly won't help either, because like I said, neither Hop nor Olivia can survive even Drake's first sync attack
...We literally just explained how Acerola flinch strats can let you get 2nd Sync before Drake Syncs
Like, just now
I mean, I used Acerola flinch strats
and I am still unable to get a 2nd sync before Drake syncs
And RNG reset just means resetting until Hop doesn't have Freevenge activate at the wrong time
Did you get flinches?
yes
So Acerola flinched the left side, right after Olivia Synced, and somehow you couldn't queue Olivia's move before the next one went off
Is that what you're saying?
no, Acerola flinched left side before Olivia synced
Acerola flinch strats
That's not what needs to happen for Acerola flinch strats
The flinch needs to happen right after the Sync
yeah, sadly, I can't seem to get flinches consistently after the sync
So RNG reset. It's a part of CS, my friend
Doesn’t need to be consistent, you get at least two chances
okay, will try again, and this time, I'll pay more attention towards when Acerola's flinches succeed
part of most of the hard content in this game
oh the amount of times I reset because the opponent opens with a strong move that oneshots my tank
Ah, I too remember Psychic weak Flint
Having Lisa survive Phoebe this week was a bit of rng pain
DAMN
this time, I actually was able to get a second sync attack from Olivia before Drake did his first sync attack
but guess what
it didn't matter
No crit?
It didn't crit?
because Drake's sync attack wiped out my team anyway
Olivia's sync attack never crits for me
Then try again until it crits. Sheesh, don't let 80% crit chance stop you
or maybe it does and I just haven't noticed, considering it hits like a wet towel
80% chance (so a 20% chance to not crit), it happens. If one of the 2 times doesn't crit that's a reset
It's sometimes just like that
Yeah
wait, what if those sync attacks did crit, and it's just the fact that the sync attack simply was weak even WITH crits? 😦
it shouldn't hit like a wet towel if it crits, Olivia's speed is maxed, and sandstorm is up
of course, the last two are grid-reliant
Olivia is a really good nuker
...oh...
Olivia's Sync should be ridiculous if she's actually gridded for Sync mods
...so I was supposed to use Sandstorm after all
Yes
grid her for Inertia and Sand Blaster
I can't, I ran out of sync orbs
Did you not see the grid nodes where it mentions sandstorm stuff?
What grid are you running on Olivia right now?
Or did you not read the description of the node?
I did, but I didn't think I'd need to use them
ah now this makes things harder
ungridded Olivia... eh.....
Hah....
Just stall man
Depending on what Olivia is gridded for currently you could just reset her grid and rebuild it
R2 is stall city
Worst case scenario Poison stall exists
One thing can make such a huge difference you know like setting up weather because of the multipliers
even when doing that, I can't have Amped Up 2, Inertia and Sand Blaster all at the same time due to not having enough sync orbs
I sadly have to sacrifice one of the 3
Then do the events and the daily orb arena
Have you bought the monthly sync orbs
Likely gonna need to off-type or Poison stall either Sidney or Drake then
We have a new event right now where you can get more sync orbs
This too. Use your 999 stamina for something .
Assuming no orb source remains
I did
And did you get the sync orbs from the new Christmas event currently running
actually? Olivia already has amped up 1 on passive and if Acerola can flinch drake at the right times, he won't debuff speed
Tbh at this point it's probably just easier to off-type
I mean
I could give Olivia a Haste Lucky Skill
if the cookies will cooperate, that is
Unless you have Sonia
I do have Sonia!
Is she EX-ed?
...nope
And what's her move level?
not worth
Ah that's perfect
oh that's great
She unlocks TM Critical Squad at 3/5
can she be gridded with critical squad, at least
But you still need to use Olivia's TM for the accuracy buff for Stone Edge
I mean, Olivia has no lucky skill right now to begin with
I'd say just once is enough
Yeah definitely
so...uh...might as well give her Haste so she has at least a Lucky Skill instead of none at all
so all Sonia needs is crit squad on TM. if she doesn't get MPR, it's fine because Olivia's crit will still be maxed
Sonia counters Drake's speed down
I'd rather go with CS2 so she hits harder
So no need to give Olivia Haste
Oh, wait, is your Sonia even gridded?
oh but also. Sonia makes it pretty hard to quadqueue
because of team swift reaction
Unless the next action is buff or you flinch the left
yeah, guess we're back to this
Top left
Top left section, iirc
ah, there we go
That's also where her TM MP refresh is
damn, so close
we're really at that point in the game where we memorize grid tile positions, huh 
I just need to reset one skill that uses up 10 energy, then I can get Critical Squad
but now the question is...what to reset?
What's her grid rn?
That's the wrong build
Just get rid of that entire bottom right section
Like, the whole thing
Can also remove one of the Potion MP Refreshes
damn, that bad?
Can try this one
This is my usual grid for Sonia
Yes
It's not bad, but it's also not necessary
Mine has Potion MP refresh for survivability while Cobalt has Fast Track for gauge control and Inertia multiplier
Either one is good
oh, I can have Potion MP refresh AND Fast Track at the same time
Yep
all while also having Critical Squad
And Trainer Move MP Refresh
Yes
What a unit
Sonia's nuts
alright, time to replace Hop with Sonia
With also having guaranteed defense debuff when she attacks
The downside is that you'll need to either have Drake use a status move or abuse Acerola flinch after your 1st Sync to Sync twice
Because Sonia's Team Swift Reaction will absolutely prevent quadqueue if it activates
But that shouldn't be a problem
Well, you have 2 chances to flinch with Acerola
And it's even 60% chance to flinch too
Since your Sonia isn't EX-ed @verbal karma , then just purely focus on syncing with Olivia
Oh is Acerola gridded With her minimal grid?
Oh yeah, what's your grid on Acerola BTW @verbal karma ?
We don't deserve a genpool this good but I'll take it
basically just astonish aggravation at this point, sandstorm MPR shouldn't be necessary for presync
And we have someone like SS Erika who do both DPS and sync nuke
if they're low on orbs
Surging Sands?
Aggravation and Sandstorm MPR are all she needs. nothing else matters
No, Astonish: Aggravation
oh
And you candied her too?
oh shit yeah is that a 2/5 acerola
...hopefully you got her free dupe way back when and didn't actually candy her?
Wait, dupe?
V old event
When was that?
I think the 2/5 was BECAUSE of the dupe?
alright, just did
And possibly Sandstorm MP refresh
like, when the game first launched we didn't have candies yet, so to get dupes for story pairs, there were events gifting it
Oh, so back in 2019/2020 then
Same reason you see some people with 2/5 Rosa.
Right
not that I know any of this from experience, I just heard stories
okay, got Sandstorm MP refresh and Astonish Aggravation...but still no Sand Blaster on Olivia...
I guess I get rid of Stone Edge Amped Up 2 for Sand Blaster?
events don't give enough
?
haha, nope
And I ask, did you get the sync orbs from the event exchange?
the monthly one?
No, the one from the Christmas event
oh, I haven't started the Christmas event yet
I am still busy finishing up the Rocket event
Then clearly not "haha, nope" 
Since you're using Sonia, yes
In fact use all 999 stamina and you get 1000
from the special rally
And also get those 2000
from the Christmas event too
3000 easy 
alright, the Trainer Lodge sync orbs were enough!
Stone Edge Amped Up 2, Inertia, Sand Blaster 5, it's all here now
Remember to try to flinch the left side when Sonia is about to sync unless they decide to buff. If you failed to flinch the left side, then flinch Drake next. If that doesn't work, then reset
...wait, Sonia sync?
Oh wait, NVM
I forgot your Sonia isn't EX-ed
But still, try to flinch the left side first when doing your first sync
If failed, try to flinch Drake next
unless an extreme emergency happens that requires me to EX a sync pair, I'd rather not change my initial plan for sync pair EXing
which is "EX all versions of my favs"
Now, let's see you attempt Drake now
And also, try to flinch the sides when you're doing Olivia's 2nd sync because the sides will go ham with AoEs
I've got Valerie working better this week but sadly don't think I'm going to push through with a win from her. 
Valerie doesn’t do enough on her own. She needs someone to hold her hand,


