Champion Stadium

[verbal karma]

R1 is also 100% Phoebe

[keen jasper]

Neither of them benefit from R3

[verbal karma]

damn

[undone ether]

R2 is... what exactly?

[verbal karma]

stat lowering is buffed

[undone ether]

oh stat lowering effects

HUM

[keen jasper]

Debuffs have stronger effect

[undone ether]

Palentines sweep or Drake getting debuffed?

[verbal karma]

hmm...

[formal vigil]

Probably Sidney unless you have classic blue

[undone ether]

What

my SC Hilda is 3/5 EX

[verbal karma]

if I were to go with Palentines sweep for R2, then I would have to somehow fit in a ghost type for the Drake team...

[keen jasper]

Drake will constantly debuff your speed assuming he attacks you

The only one who practically counter that is Sonia

[formal vigil]

Ingo too as long your in sandstorm

[undone ether]

Ingo buffs speed

so it should be fine yeah?

also my SC Hilda can either Impervious or jsut go full damage

not to mention, Bertha drops ATK and 2 other stats i dont remember

so i guess how long i can run 4 sandstorms worth of punching hehehe

so i guess

R1 VS Phoebe - 2 Rodents and a Corgi
R2 VS Sidney - Palentines Serena
R3 VS Drake - SC Hilda
R4 VS Glacia - SS Hilda

[swift swan]

Does Hop have Vigilance, at least? That might help. Did you get potion MPRs too?

[verbal karma]

hrrrmmm...okay, I think I ran into a problem

...I don't have a good Spec. Atk Rock type striker sync pair

[keen jasper]

Why does it matter? You can use any damage dealers against Drake

[verbal karma]

hmm...

[swift swan]

Pretty sure the only sp attack rock striker is Hyper Beam Classic Blue anyway

[verbal karma]

oof

[keen jasper]

Well, that answers my question

[old orchid]

dont forget Roxanne

[keen jasper]

[verbal karma]

Roxanne is Support, though

she's more of a tank than a nuker

hmm...actually

...should I pick the ghost type tank for R3 Drake or R4 Glacia?

if it's the latter, then I'd be able to have Roxanne in the team alongside two Rock-type strikers (Olivia and SS Brock)

[undone ether]

Lovely

[keen jasper]

I used Leaf for the MF bonus

[full mesa]

Too much power for a 🎈

Volkner for flinch and SSTRed for everything else.

[keen jasper]

Ash can still deal over 80k damage against Phoebe even with max HP, strength and defense parameters

[river pagoda]

holy fuck those sides were so annoying for 850pt wallace

had to make erika target sides while brendan took down mid

and still it was close

[full mesa]

Hoenn is annoying in general

[river pagoda]

aint no way im doing 2k until i either EX or 3/5 either of those 2

holy shit

[keen jasper]

Mine is too easy with Lyranium, SS Erika and Mallow

[full mesa]

I used SCLillie/Lyra/SSErika (3/5) for 2k.

[keen jasper]

Wallace's Hydro Pump is no joke tho

[full mesa]

Mallow is a queen in that stage.

[river pagoda]

eee all my 5 stars r 1/5 except for may, skyla, ss elesa and thts it

😔

hydro pump is less annoying than the surfs

ngl

[full mesa]

You have to pull more.

[river pagoda]

cuz surfs absolutely body brendan and sceptile

i dont want to pull more

[full mesa]

That's the only way.

[river pagoda]

ive been playing for a month

ikik

[full mesa]

Then save for halfanni

[river pagoda]

waiting for amphy and then whenever faves come back

might go anni n or steven depending on if january is wack or not

[verbal karma]

oh yeah, I think people missed this question

[full mesa]

I had my big Powerboost after third Annie where I pulled for 5 characters with enough gems to pity all of them.

[keen jasper]

Oh yeah, H. Jasmine is a tank with SEUN

Maybe she can help SS Wally damage cap max HP, strength and defense parameter Sidney

[river pagoda]

thankfully even with no stat reductions mina is a decent fairy dps

[full mesa]

It's a tank. Glacia is special while drake is physical. What is your tank mostly used for?

[river pagoda]

she's carried me in fairy weak stages in cs this past month thank god

[full mesa]

I couldn't make Mina work. 20k sync with 2x sync buff and -6 att. Didn't kill...

[river pagoda]

2kmm?

[full mesa]

Yes

[verbal karma]

...well, for tanking...

[river pagoda]

eee

i did tht and wallace at 850

might go higher for tht stage cuz it wasnt too bad

but im not going past 850 for wallace

thtll be pain

[swift swan]

ancient power DPS go brrr

[full mesa]

Physical or special side. Def/spdef up or more aggressive with speed/crit/att/spa or more utility with heal and other effects?

[verbal karma]

I mean, it depends on the opponent, really

since Drake is going physical, I want a physical tank

and since Glacia is going special, I want a special tank

now here's the thing: Roxanne is both a special AND a physical tank

[full mesa]

Roxanne then. But you'll have to use a special nuker. Or Phoebe for physical.

[keen jasper]

Drake does mostly physical, but there are some that can deal special too

[river pagoda]

anyone getting a grid expansion/power boost this month aside from ssleaf/marnie?

[verbal karma]

I don't have a special nuker for R3 period

none of my Rock-type nukers are special

they are all physical

[river pagoda]

u can offtype

[full mesa]

Can your rock types max out their att and crit in 3-4 turns?

[undone ether]

Joly crap he actually a flinch lmao

SC Hilda can +3 Crit and Speed herself.

she also gets Towering Force and Inertia

wait not inertia

[verbal karma]

SS Brock? Nope
Olivia? Yes, but at the cost of debuffing her defense

[keen jasper]

Only Blue/Aerodactyl is the only unit that has a special rock move

Besides, like I said, you can use any type of damage dealer you want against Drake

[verbal karma]

too bad I don't have that

[full mesa]

Use Roxanne/Olivia/sand setter. Roxanne will back up def/speed and wide guard. Olivia will do the rest while you have a secondary sand setter with other utility boosts.

[keen jasper]

Olivia only debuffs her Sp. Def.

[swift swan]

special defense, I'm sure. and you don't need to worry about that. drake's stage is fully physical

[verbal karma]

ah, whoops, I misread

[full mesa]

She can take care of that too with trainer node.

[dark osprey]

there's fantina. also 3 lower gachas: Surge, Agatha, Janine

[swift swan]

ah wait, not exactly fully physical

but close enough

[full mesa]

I need to check Agatha's boost.

[river pagoda]

i remember hearing blaine was getting something, did i misread? ;00

[swift swan]

no

[full mesa]

Yes

[verbal karma]

hmm...wait, hold on

why a sand setter?

[swift swan]

I mean, Blaine's not getting any grid expansion yet

[swift swan]

Olivia's sync is powered up under sand. it's in her grid

and we recommend nuke Olivia over DPS Olivia

[full mesa]

To activate more multipliers for Olivia. Under sand she can easily off type too.

[swift swan]

she's a much better nuker anyway

[river pagoda]

he needs a grid period 😔 tired of putting a sun setter tht doesnt do much outside of tht + trap and the occasional burn

[verbal karma]

oh, it's grid stuff

[river pagoda]

id put ss erika but i usually pair her w brendan for future stages

[swift swan]

well, ss erika is always an option

[river pagoda]

^

😔

[full mesa]

Use shiny Ninetales then.

[verbal karma]

sorry, but I can't grid out Olivia

like, at all

I don't have Sync Orbs

[full mesa]

How many do you have right now?

[river pagoda]

completely forgot eggmons existed

ty

[keen jasper]

Did you do the daily orb arena and did you get the sync orbs from the events?

[verbal karma]

54 yellow Sync Orbs

[verbal karma]

I did

[full mesa]

You have 5.4k + 2k = 7.4k orbs. If you can get another 100 through events or dating simulator thingy you can grid her. Do either 4.2k or 7.5k goal to get the 2k orbs from MM rewards and then redo for 10k.

[verbal karma]

nonono

I don't have 5.4k orbs

I have

literally 54 orbs

I really am THAT broke when it comes to yellow orbs

[undone ether]

Nice 15k sync move hehe

[full mesa]

You have 6 days left this week. 5.4k orbs (900 per day). +2k from MM (up until 7.5k points iirc) equals 7.4k. You need only 100 more. If you farm the dating simulator thingy daily you might find some orbs through the chests.

[swift swan]

well you can always wait until you can get more sync orbs then. you have a week for CS anyway

no rush doing it day 1

[swift swan]

you can also exchange lodge stones for sync orbs as a last resort

and have you done the monthly shop exchange? you can buy sync orbs from the shop monthly

[full mesa]

No. Either use them for 150 pass or move levels.

[river pagoda]

they cant get the sync orbs from MM without clearing it tho, which is what theyre having trouble with rn no?

[swift swan]

plus event shops give us sync orbs as well

[full mesa]

Since you have an unlimited amount of them.

[undone ether]

WHOA WHOA WHOA

[swift swan]

they can just do 0 points on drake and get more points on the rest

[undone ether]

700 damage glacia?!

[full mesa]

For 2k. Not 1.5k. It's a lot easier.

[swift swan]

then redo for 10k

[undone ether]

She crits hard wtf?

[river pagoda]

ah i see

[full mesa]

Yep. Hail or not she can 2 shit everything.

[swift swan]

glacia does have high offensive stats this week

[undone ether]

i had sun up

[full mesa]

Exactly, it doesn't matter what is up.

[swift swan]

still. this is her stats at base

[full mesa]

Even at -6 with only +8 str she would hit for 500+k with 1 sync buff.

I'm waiting for Eevee's f2p guide. It's always fun to watch them.

[swift swan]

eevee let me know if you can ontype sidney f2p

I gave up on Mina

31k post-support EX sync, with SEUP next. Sidney lived with a sliver of HP and got to sync

[old orchid]

bruh Glacia two shot SSHilda and Bluedog in 2 Blizzard

[verbal karma]

I don't have MM unlocked yet

[old orchid]

wtf

[verbal karma]

that's the problem

I am currently trying to unlock MM

[swift swan]

reset until she doesn't use blizzard

[undone ether]

There we go

[river pagoda]

hard mode shudnt be bad

[swift swan]

that's our only hope

[verbal karma]

oh, you have no idea

[river pagoda]

i do

i literally

did it

every week

sincei started last month

😩

[old orchid]

after 12 resets she doesnt use blizzard twice in the whole match anymore

[verbal karma]

hmm...well, without sync grid skills, Olivia won't benefit from Sand Storm anyway, so...uh...

Roxanne/Olivia/???

[full mesa]

Just battle. No boost it's the easiest. Hard mode doesn't really need that much thought. What type are you missing?

[verbal karma]

...should the last slot be SS Brock or a ghost type sync pair for the type medal?

[undone ether]

Yummy xD

[full mesa]

Forget about the combo. Tell us what type do you miss and send an ss with your units. We have to fill those first.

[swift swan]

why would you need SS Brock

[old orchid]

she still doesnt die wtf

[verbal karma]

Bug, Ground and Ghost, though I already have Ash teamed up with Aaron and Nita for the first two

[swift swan]

you don't have to strictly ontype yknow

[undone ether]

lolol

i actually have all DEFENSIVE Parameters

[full mesa]

Nice. So you only miss ghost.

[verbal karma]

ghost type it is, then

[swift swan]

ghost then. acerola flinchhax saved my ass this week

[full mesa]

How many battles have you completed?

[undone ether]

Fully buffed stats with what i had, for SS Hilda's attack

33k

and she doesnt die lma

my mistake was actually putting her to +6 Level

+3 and defensive options was prolly better

[full mesa]

Why would they. 30k is the bare minimum for Hoenn. Why would they have normal stats.

[undone ether]

anywho

not sure with my current team for Wallace

[spring fable]

I keep getting rekt

1.5k post sync

[sand karma]

Yo wtf this is the first time my SSWally is struggling on a fairy weak stage

I tried with Sycamore and roxie

Skyla and roxie

Sidney is so tanky

I had to put grad healing with post sync

[full mesa]

Welcome to Hoenn. A place where we have absurdly high stats from no apparent reason.

[swift swan]

vs drake?

Hoenn is like... tanky canons

[undone ether]

haha

died

[spring fable]

Vs everyone

[undone ether]

so i need to sync with meganium AFTER his

[full mesa]

Sinnoh is hard and challenging. Hoenn is annoying and frustrating.

[swift swan]

still on round 1?

[spring fable]

Yes

[swift swan]

I always say both are hard in their own ways

[swift swan]

hmmm. I would recommend Olivia/Acerola/Hop and fish for flinchhax

if you know the flinch timing and move pattern of the opponents, they can barely get a move in

Before the enemy sync, the pattern goes mid, right, mid, left, repeat

after that I don't know, I almost never postsync and when I do, the sides are dead long before then

[swift swan]

so if you can flinch them when they're queueing a move, this can greatly clutch you a win, especially since your Olivia isn't EX'd

[frosty axle]

Took a bit of thinking but did my F2P run

[swift swan]

hi eevee

what did you use vs Sidney

[frosty axle]

hi November

[swift swan]

let me know if you can make Mina work

I gave up on her

[frosty axle]

I did get her to work

wasn't the easiest

[full mesa]

I'm waiting for the video.

[swift swan]

I preached Mina for Fairy-weak Cynthia last month but vs Sidney... I just couldn't do it. my damage was so close to OHKOing Sidney post-support sync but since the devs decided Sidney should have oh-so-bulky HP, I couldn't oneshot

[undone ether]

Done ooof

[formal vigil]

Just use her with sycamore and hop what I did last time

[full mesa]

I did SSBlue/Mina/Sycamore. Sycamore had to stall the sides.

[swift swan]

normally for fairy-weak (except Cynthia) I use Sycamore/Lisia/SS Lyra but it's basically SS Lyra carrying the battle on her onion fairy's back

[frosty axle]

Problem with Cynthia is that it needs sp.atk debuff not attack mostly

[full mesa]

SSLyra is the No 1 princess.

[formal vigil]

Ss lyra the goat

[spring fable]

Is exes required a must for 1.5k?

[full mesa]

Depends on the unit. Supports are always welcome.

[frosty axle]

not really

[undone ether]

my SS Lyra looks weird guys

help

chuckles

[swift swan]

not at all

[spring fable]

Then why am I failing

[frosty axle]

for 2k I would say ex is probably helpful

[spring fable]

[swift swan]

she sure does. Lyra probably missed the memo and forgot to bring her sygna suit to the battle

[swift swan]

just a case of not being used to the new params, I feel

[swift swan]

you can probably give this a try

[frosty axle]

Was fun using both Lyra together

[formal vigil]

Yeah

[swift swan]

I know I did a non-EX Olivia clear vs rock-weak Flint way back when it first came out and Acerola flinches saved my ass

in general I think you should be fine. Drake has low offenses to begin with and no inflated HP

his only important gimmick is debuffing speed

and it's not like he has multipliers based on speed debuffs either

[spring fable]

What’s the odds of her flinch?

[frosty axle]

flinch and sleep are really easy ways to win with weak teams

[swift swan]

30% at base. 60% with aggravation on grid. practically guaranteed if you do it round 1

[swift swan]

waiting for Kalos CS where the opponents have pecking order, devastation, cakewalk, brainteaser, etc

like rock-weak drake's passive is the perfect set-up for cakewalk/hunter's instinct but luckily he doesn't have that

[spring fable]

Do I need dupes for her

[swift swan]

no

never

Acerola has one of the best 1/5 grids out there

[frosty axle]

ye acerola base form does it for 120 orbs

[swift swan]

you literally only need two tiles: Astonish: Aggravation 1 and Sandstorm MP Refresh, both at 1/5

she's a story unit and a 5* tech even. no one's candying her unless she's a huge fave

[frosty axle]

I would candy her if she got a very good expanded nuke grid

[swift swan]

I wouldn't because I'm comfortable with ghost types as it is

[frosty axle]

Just want to do it for a physical ghost for F2P

[swift swan]

personally wouldn't call needing two tech candies f2p-friendly it takes quite a lot of investment

[spring fable]

That’s all?

[frosty axle]

I wouldn't use it in my F2P run it's to do other fun runs haha

[spring fable]

So just astonish mid stone edge mid, astonish right stone edge right?

[keen jasper]

Flinch both sides when you're about to nuke Drake with Olivia

[verbal karma]

quick question: is regular Leaf as a tank both good and expendable?

because if I would use her for R4 against Glacia, I'd be able to use a better tank for R5 against Wallace

[swift swan]

she's a decent tank

[swift swan]

olivia can keep attacking mid most of the time

[spring fable]

Eek

Should I start flinching since t1 or use xdef

[verbal karma]

thanks

[swift swan]

if you're bringing Hop as the tank, you don't need to use x def on acerola

Acerola's flinches should follow the enemy's move pattern: mid, right, mid, left, repeat

note that the enemy may switch to using a trainer move when they're flinched, but it's fine as long as you don't take damage

[verbal karma]

...okay, for R5, do I want to include permanent field effects or nah?

[keen jasper]

Just change the weather

[spring fable]

I killed mid but sides got me

[verbal karma]

that's why I am asking: include the R4 affect to R5 or nah?

since that's exactly what my idea was: replace Wallace's rain with Blaine's sun

[main crow]

Well yeah R4 param is the best one

[spring fable]

Yo trini have you unlocked mm

[keen jasper]

Wallace doesn't replace the rain before syncing, but I think he immediately makes it rain when Wallace syncs

[verbal karma]

...and of course, Blaine is literally unable to to MP refresh...

and I already used up SS Erika

[swift swan]

how much was Olivia's nuke?

we can try another strategy if that's the case

[spring fable]

9k maybe

[river pagoda]

u only need 2 suns for tht stage

[spring fable]

9k ish

[river pagoda]

if ur talking abt wallace

[keen jasper]

Crit or not crit?

[swift swan]

hmmm, under sand?

She should have her nuke grid

Inertia and Sand Blaster

[spring fable]

I went sandless and was flinching on turn 1

[swift swan]

hmmm try to make a time window for acerola to use sandstorm, at least

[swift swan]

this was 1st sync or 2nd sync?

[spring fable]

2nd!

[swift swan]

how much was 1st sync?

this is drake's stats when I put in the 1.5k presync parameters. with two syncs under sand, I think Olivia should be able to kill drake just with nuke alone. so she can freely stone edge the sides

you can probably do a few stone edges on drake, but focus on sides for the DPS, if they're giving you trouble

[spring fable]

I’m doing post sync

1st sync

[frosty axle]

I dont see sand up?

[spring fable]

I ran sandless grid and started trying to flinch on t1

[halcyon sail]

My trauma must have suppressed the memory of this Glacia, but this stage is awful

[frosty axle]

surprisingly I breezed through Glacia

;p

[swift swan]

same, but I can't say much because my team is overkill incarnate

only had trouble vs sidney this week

[spring fable]

😮

[swift swan]

that's fine, as long as you put up sandstorm before olivia's sync

[frosty axle]

Well all I can say is free Blue Arcanine is amazing and so is Hooh as an alternative

[swift swan]

she really appreciates the multipliers

[spring fable]

So should I do post or presync?

[frosty axle]

post

is what i do

[verbal karma]

alright, Type Medal completed, but man

that was ugly

[keen jasper]

Now it's time for the rough part

[river pagoda]

congrats!

[spring fable]

Gz

[main crow]

Congrats

[verbal karma]

oof

[main crow]

Now the real fun begins

[verbal karma]

at least I'll be smarter this time and use Blaine for R4 Glacia instead of Wallace

[river pagoda]

erika will help u blaze thru wallace

her dmg is gr8

[verbal karma]

yeah, that was my plan

[swift swan]

I think with Hop there, both options are safe. he's tanky enough to presync, but also likes postsync for extra damage from behemoth bash

[verbal karma]

use Blaine for Glacia so I can use SS Erika for Wallace

anyway, I got 185 now

[swift swan]

it sure is fun when Wallace opens with hydro pump and somehow crits

[verbal karma]

oof

[spring fable]

Nope seemed to do lesser with sand

[verbal karma]

now the question is: should I use 50 of those 185 for self-indulging EX-ing or should I use it to instead EX someone I'd need to beat one of the #1009557516369281075 I haven't beaten yet?

[frosty axle]

did you take the sand buffs?

[spring fable]

I did

5k 1st sync with sand

[frosty axle]

is that at 3/5?

[spring fable]

4/5

[frosty axle]

then you should hit a lot harder

[verbal karma]

because I am still struggling with EBE Alder Part 2 and the optional missions for the Battle Challenge 2 of the second Johto Rocket event

[main crow]

Skill issue

Just flinch him ez

[swift swan]

the only skill issue I will admit this week is not being able to 2k presync with Mina

even with Red as a partner

sigh

[verbal karma]

if I were to do the latter, then I'd only be able to do the EX-ing for EBE Alder Part 2 since Kris doesn't even have 20 fed

[main crow]

Damn Mina presync?

That's smth

[verbal karma]

...neither does Karen, but at least she has 3 fed instead of the 0 that Kris has

[swift swan]

who are you planning to EX for the EBE? We don't really recommend EX'ing someone just to clear a stage, especially when you're still low on EX resources

[spring fable]

Hmm tried again, still 1st sync 5k

[swift swan]

I mean, I was able to vs Cynthia. It's just that Sidney chose to be extremely bulky

the best I got was 31k post-support EX sync with SEUP next

[verbal karma]

well, the team I am currently using for EBE Alder Part 2 is Piers/Karen/Sycamore

[swift swan]

with sand?

[spring fable]

Yes

[frosty axle]

can you show the grid

[main crow]

Funny how it's always the E4 who are more difficult than the champs itself

[swift swan]

pretty sure this team is doable without Karen EX. there's one on the pins

[swift swan]

looks good already

[verbal karma]

and yet I just can't win with that team, no matter what

...then again, the problem with Karen is not the lack of an EX, but the lack of a Vigilance skill

[swift swan]

you'll probably appreciate CS2 instead for better damage. random crits on AOE moves are rare

[verbal karma]

and I fresh ran out of the blue lucky cookies trying to get Vigilance

[spring fable]

Oh I’ll be honest, none of my pairs have lucky skill

I’m not ready to throw cookies and not get the one I want

[keen jasper]

I still remember my very first MM clear, 7.9k on the Sinnoh CS

[main crow]

Just farm LG Entei is a punching bag lmao

[verbal karma]

for you, maybe

but I get clapped by Entei

[swift swan]

the current legendary gauntlet is perfect for farming cookies

Entei is a punching bag with your usual water team

[verbal karma]

my first MM clear was also on the Sinnoh CS

[swift swan]

Godspeed to people who start with Sinnoh and Hoenn. I can't imagine the pain

[main crow]

Ye tornadus is the only one with a gimmick but even then it's an easy to bypass gimmick

The self cleanse is annoying tho

[swift swan]

I forgot what my first MM clear was... but my first 10k was Kanto

followed immediately by 10k'ing Sinnoh when it first came out because I was super stubborn and wanted to continue my 10k streak

[main crow]

Johto was my first CSMM, and i remember doing it without knowing the existence of the presync/post sync/stall points guide

So i just made my own and struggled through it

[verbal karma]

...usual water team...you mean SS Misty/Kris/SS Blue or what?

(please don't say I have to use Barry)

[main crow]

Entei shrivels up at any water sync pair that steps up to it

It aged that badly

[verbal karma]

so...this team? or should I replace Kris with, like, Archie or something?
(last time I tried LG Entei was when LG Entei was first introduced, and Kris was...literally my ONLY good water type sync pair)

[main crow]

I think that team is perfectly capable of it

[swift swan]

same lmao

no wonder I was having trouble with parameters when I kept taking -2 sync move countdown

[spring fable]

nov could you help build spoonfeed me teams pls? like back in kanto

im dying here

[full mesa]

850?

Or higher?

[spring fable]

higher

[full mesa]

How much higher?

[spring fable]

1.5k! unless there's smth inbetween?

[swift swan]

the teams you planned to use were good enough

but sure, screenshot your box

[full mesa]

Send your roster. I'll provide a secondary (not that good) opinion.

[swift swan]

it's alright, all opinions appreciated

I just wish aurochs or dreamy would come in here and pin my summary cause I'm tired of looking lol

[frosty axle]

they still haven't?

[swift swan]

the ones on pins right now are last week's

[spring fable]

do mms normally require tons of resets T^T

[frosty axle]

I saw Dreamy yesterday so surprised they didn't see it

[swift swan]

it depends on the teams

[full mesa]

Depends but for me yes

[swift swan]

to be fair I didn't tag any mod

[full mesa]

Until I realise what the issue is

[frosty axle]

for me MM doesn't need much resets

[swift swan]

since I know dreamy's been sick

[frosty axle]

yep but he's better now

[swift swan]

I'm pretty stubborn and always do 2k hyper offensive params, so my resets usually happen because the enemy opens with a hard-hitting move and one-shots my tank

[frosty axle]

I always go post and finish before sync haha

only time I don't is F2P (F2P usually finishes after enemy sync)

[full mesa]

Post sync on difficult CS.

[spring fable]

i'll go make a post and share it here

[verbal karma]

wait, which one, SS Misty/Kris/SS Blue or SS Misty/Archie/SS Blue?

[frosty axle]

least my week 2 F2P run is finishing processing on my video editor

[full mesa]

Second. The first doesn't have rain. Unless you're against a wise entry x2 stage.

[verbal karma]

I...don't think I even have Wise Entry x2?

[full mesa]

Not you. The opponent.

[frosty axle]

Wallace has it

[full mesa]

Ex Wallace this week has it as one of his passives.

[verbal karma]

...oh...but I was talking about LG Entei

[frosty axle]

in wrong channel

#1009562367803261078

[full mesa]

1st wrong channel. 2nd both work

[swift swan]

Sidney took me a shit ton of resets and almost 1 hour to clear because I wanted to ontype

Mina could barely cut it. Gladion.... yeah no

pls dena, I'm begging

gladion powerboost

[verbal karma]

I mean, I only talked here because I was technically responding to Kazu

[spring fable]

Here!

https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1051833743112933456

[dark osprey]

if u've got sonia EX, maybe mina, sycamore & sonia EX should be able to make it possible

[swift swan]

yeah I was trying Mina as the main damage dealer and it was painful

the best I got was 31k post-support EX sync with SEUP next

[dark osprey]

that's good right. so got rid of the centre

[swift swan]

it'd be great if I could actually got rid of the center

Sidney lived with a sliver of HP and got to sync

[main crow]

I don't remember if I grab -2 sync countdown but I do distinctly remember grabbing the +1/+3 atk/spatk/def/spdef and HP points

[sick inlet]

So... I just put Redchu vs Sidney cause I have no answers for him 2v3

Anything with no solution:
slap redchu on the stage

[mellow linden]

Olivia failed to crit both of the sides with her Sync and then proceeded to by flinch-locked by Dragonite’s Rock Slide when I fought Drake

Fortunately Stealth Rock was up

[spring fable]

okie managed to 1.5k phoebe and drake, 1.45k sydney

trying silver, blaine and hilbert on glacia but losing, should i bother with supp ex sync?

[old orchid]

Glacia hits too hard?

[spring fable]

yupp

they all hit hard tbh

my fire nuke 1st sync can kill both sides and half froslass

but by then one icy wind can kill

[swift swan]

that would help

[swift swan]

I think that's a case of luck when Glacia spams too much blizzard

[spring fable]

what else can she use?

[frosty axle]

Week 2 F2P run is up now #1049327702886318110 message

[swift swan]

her 3 moves are blizzard, icy wind, and draining kiss

[spring fable]

silver cant survive 2nd aoe

[swift swan]

[formal vigil]

Have you tried using someone with sleep or flinch?

[spring fable]

hilbert has flinch

[swift swan]

Glacia hits hella hard, I admit

...wait, is this round 3?

[spring fable]

4

[swift swan]

ah

perma field?

[spring fable]

i sun t1 too

[swift swan]

even better then

hmm

[frosty axle]

what support you using Kirby?

[spring fable]

hilbert and blaine

[main crow]

You're using SF/CS2 silver build yeah?

[swift swan]

oh yeah. does silver have a lucky skill at all?

[spring fable]

Noooooo

i dodged like 2 aoes here

[swift swan]

oh that was so close though

you couldn't quadqueue?

[spring fable]

ah nope, spamming sacred fire

[spring fable]

only for a turn, they died shortly after

[swift swan]

ah

[swift swan]

that's still fine

yeah that's the thing with Hilbert... really fast buffer but frail

needs some very good luck to make him live

how about trying Lyra instead and use Light Screen

though she's even squishier than Hilbert

[sinful garden]

were the guides for this week (the ones usually in pins) already made

[frosty axle]

you want something for potions and special defense

[swift swan]

yep, give me a moment to fetch it

[sinful garden]

gotta she who's physical and who's special before goin in

[sinful garden]

ty

[main crow]

No mods to pin it

[swift swan]

@sinful garden

[sinful garden]

thanks

[swift swan]

round params

[spring fable]

AYOO

[swift swan]

👀

[main crow]

Did you do it???

[spring fable]

birdey juked

[swift swan]

niceee, congrats

[solemn pine]

[swift swan]

and I was about to reset my CS to test it for you too

[spring fable]

i think i crit him this time

[swift swan]

I can imagine it being rough. Hilbert is pretty squishy and glacia hits so damn hard

[spring fable]

3/4 of mid health went down

[swift swan]

that's how it's supposed to be with powerboosted Silver

absolute monster

[main crow]

I was gonna do the same lol

[swift swan]

they went bonkers with his grid expansion

[main crow]

Solar flare 14 😳

[spring fable]

is wallace special?

[swift swan]

if only he had dauntless on gri- gets shot

yes, wallace is fully special

which is why Sycamore is a beast there

maxes special defense on sync, unkillable with horn leech spam

change the weather with ss erika, bring a crit buffer as your third unit, and you're fine

[spring fable]

think i can 1550 him to make up for my prev 1450?

[steel kelp]

What’s the Wallace team

[swift swan]

you can even 2k I bet lol

SS erika hits so damn hard

[steel kelp]

Oh you can definitely 2k him

[keen jasper]

My SS Erika did 51k with SEUN under sun and with EX support

[steel kelp]

Pick perma field and watch as he never goes near grass again

[keen jasper]

OFC, Wallace mainly specializes in water-types

[swift swan]

my SS Erika is 2/5

[steel kelp]

Mine is 1/5

Good thing I have SS lyra 3/5

And even then I have Brendan 5/5

[spring fable]

sycamore as 1st target?

[keen jasper]

Do you have an EX supporter?

[spring fable]

not one with crit rate up

skyla and ghetsis left

[swift swan]

sabrina?

[spring fable]

sync with her first?

[swift swan]

if she's not EX'd, no need

just sync with Sycamore

then the rest goes to SS Erika

sabrina is just there for crit buffs (make sure she has the critical squad on grid to max crit)

[keen jasper]

SS Erika already maxes out her own stats

[swift swan]

also sabrina can heal too I guess

[spring fable]

ah currently using normal lyra

[keen jasper]

And also grant speed through Pep Rally

EX-ed or not?

[spring fable]

no 😦

[keen jasper]

Wait, is your SS Erika 3/5?

[spring fable]

1/5 only

[swift swan]

that also works. with extra light screen to boot

[swift swan]

still fine

[keen jasper]

Do you have any grass DDs that are 3/5?

[swift swan]

ooooh that already sounds so fun. Permanent MGA from sycamore, permanent sun from SS Erika, permanent light screen from Lyra

good luck to wallace if he wants to make a dent

[spring fable]

err

i didnt see what happen

but sycamore got one shotted by smth

[main crow]

Hydro pump opener?

[spring fable]

only dawn

[spring fable]

it wasnt an opener haah

[swift swan]

probably hydro pump

was that before his 1st sync?

and what's the third unit you eventually used

also remember to use sun turn 1. hydro pump hits so damn hard

[spring fable]

went with lyra

i sunned and light screened t1

[swift swan]

sounds good already. you took the perma field effects param right

make sure Sycamore has his Horn Leech grid too. literally watch him recover from red health to full HP if horn leech crits and has master healer

[spring fable]

wait they changed the weather

i got closer

[swift swan]

good luck! you got this

I'll be here writing my uni essay while occasionally checking in to procrastinate as moral support

[spring fable]

First 7.5k clear!!

yes ss erika died to surfs

ty all for the help!

[swift swan]

well done!

[spring fable]

those spirits look tempting

[swift swan]

are we really at the point where new players get more than

those spirits literally never tempt me. I have 800 of them and I get them faster than I can ever spend them

[swift swan]

gotta love Sycamore literally being at full HP there

once I discovered horn leech sycamore, I just never went back

[trail smelt]

I never use any other sycamore haha

[spring fable]

currently have 161 , 305 , 541 , so ig no?

[swift swan]

that's really good

[toxic cobalt]

Soon the Sycamore solo?

[swift swan]

maybe

Oh hi aurochs

While you're here

please

Round params

[swift swan]

Thank you

Glad to see you finally

[toxic cobalt]

Yeah I've been busy

Cleared last week last minute

Decided to just go nuts and used Ashchu and Archie

[swift swan]

Oh aurochs

I gave up on Mina

[trail smelt]

Ah the can’t stop won’t stop team lol

[swift swan]

I was preaching her for the entirety of fairy-weak Sinnoh

But Sidney just... Chose to be very bulky

[toxic cobalt]

Hoenn is too bulky

[swift swan]

31k post-support EX sync with SEUP next. That was my best with her (no zone)

[toxic cobalt]

I was in awe of how little damage my Alder did last week

[swift swan]

And of course sidney lived that

AAAAAAA

[solemn pine]

damn glacia having sync regen

[toxic cobalt]

@swift swan

[swift swan]

...well damn

Ok but that was R1 wasn't it

Flinch cheese

At least now I don't feel insecure over my Mina's nuke damage anymore

[steel kelp]

That seems like a lot of work for something that could be off typed

[swift swan]

It sure is

[toxic cobalt]

Lot of work? A first try win?

[swift swan]

Sometimes you just want to ontype for your own self-satisfaction and it costs you your sanity

[sand karma]

Why does he not take damage even after lowering everything

[toxic cobalt]

Replace with Elio on another round

[swift swan]

Guess I can't do it the conventional way without any cheeses huh

Well I've seen eevee's clear with Mina

[toxic cobalt]

You could with a speed buffer and a quadqueue.

I just went with flinch instead because it was a proof of concept

Mina 3 bar strong

[swift swan]

I did manage to quadqueue and all. But went with support EX sync instead of two Mina syncs

[toxic cobalt]

Sydney lived that?

[swift swan]

Yeah, I dealt 31k

He lived

[toxic cobalt]

[swift swan]

I mean, 29k is at base

[frosty axle]

probably parameters maybe

[toxic cobalt]

Strength

30Hp per strength or something?

[swift swan]

And I had some strength params to complete my 2k

[toxic cobalt]

300*

[swift swan]

Let me see sidney's final HP with my params

[frosty axle]

3600 extra health at max

[halcyon sail]

Wallace and Glacia were kind of a problem for me, both like spamming strong aoe moves

[toxic cobalt]

Aoe is a nightmare

[frosty axle]

so 28960 plus 3600

[swift swan]

Well damn

[toxic cobalt]

Sounds like you weren't getting in some play roughs?

[keen jasper]

32560

[swift swan]

Params used

[frosty axle]

yes still to count +1 defense I use

[swift swan]

I could get in quite a few

[toxic cobalt]

Huh.

I thought they would do more

Especially with 2x sync buff

[frosty axle]

even if you do get Sidney down the sides heat waves are annoying

[swift swan]

[toxic cobalt]

Nov appears to have solved this with Zerena

[swift swan]

[toxic cobalt]

Also I can't believe you accused me of flinchax when you used SS Lyra

[swift swan]

Even the zerena team took 2 tries because I couldn't quadqueue (don't have brendan's adrenaline grid). So i had to deny a side

VS Wallace though! And she was tanking

[toxic cobalt]

What did SS Erika do to you anyway?

Only one that can get an EX there that you were all naaah

[hidden ore]

Is TB Red good for Sidney?

[toxic cobalt]

Just checking, no-one to avoid for Round 4?

[swift swan]

Sun

Brendan likes it

[toxic cobalt]

Do to you, not for you

[toxic cobalt]

What move level?

[swift swan]

Well... glacia maybe if you for some weird reason don't wanna change the weather?

[swift swan]

Oh, she's 2/5 and I just don't sync with her

[toxic cobalt]

Eh if it's only on entry that's fine. I was just burned last week when three of them used weather

[swift swan]

I'll admit, last time we had Fairy-weak Sidney, I cheesed it with this team. SS Lyra carried this whole battle on her onion fairy's back

[swift swan]

Nononono pls aurochs even without the hail, glacia is a menace

[toxic cobalt]

Does ice face block flinch/sleep?

[toxic cobalt]

Pull annilili for even more moonblast

[swift swan]

If this bothers you, check my clear for last week literally could've been a full EX run if I had EXd SS Erika

[swift swan]

good question

I suppose not sleep? It's not a physical move

But idk about flinch. Guess it can take 0 damage and still be flinched? Hypothetically

[toxic cobalt]

So Glacia round 1 then?

[swift swan]

If you want to flinchlock Glacia, by all means please do

She hits so hard for no reason

So it's better if she doesn't hit at all

[toxic cobalt]

Just wondering if she is the hardest. Additional effects is powerful.

Bulky HP and high attack is just rude tbh.

Pick one.

Urgh just saw she sets hail on sync too???

[swift swan]

She'll be like this on the fourth week too

[steel kelp]

Glacia r4 smile

[swift swan]

I'd reaaally change the weather

[steel kelp]

Set up sun and watch her melt

[toxic cobalt]

Probably going to try flinch that second hail, if it's a move

[swift swan]

She has healing hail? Or whatever it's called

And master healer 2

[toxic cobalt]

This is anti-Silverism

[swift swan]

Which... i suppose affects the healing hail? Idk

[swift swan]

Yea it's a move

[solemn pine]

master healer plus sync regen

i just did beat the stage post sync

[swift swan]

oh wait. master healer just applies to healing moves

so... draining kiss

lol it doesn't matter much

[solemn pine]

i think it also applies to her sync regen

since she gets gradual healing

[swift swan]

it's not a move so I don't think it counts. master fair specifically states "healing moves"

[nova galleon]

Any team suggestions for 10k points

[keen jasper]

You have some units that can easily fell 10k MM

[steel kelp]

This week is kinda easy

Especially with your roster

[swift swan]

Silver, Ash, SS Steven, Cerena can all carry their separate teams

[nova galleon]

For fairy weak

[swift swan]

also please screenshot from the move level menu next time

[steel kelp]

You could even off type if needed

[swift swan]

https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/ better yet, use this

[keen jasper]

Ash for Phoebe, Victor for Wallace, Silver/SS Hilda/SS May for Glacia and the rest of the E4 can be off-typed

[nova galleon]

I will do one with ss Steven but whom should I use as second one

[swift swan]

SS Steven just wants a tank and psychic terrain user

[dark osprey]

You've got CSerena as well right

[nova galleon]

Yes 2/5

[dark osprey]

Maybe her along with May and a good support could offtype as well

Can try her dark mode as well for offtyping

With Nessa probably

[nova galleon]

I am not able to defeat glacia
Only one icy wind is enough to knockout....

[keen jasper]

What's your team?

[toxic cobalt]

Are you getting rid of hail?

[nova galleon]

I used ss Hilda and Blaine for sunny weather and skyla

[nova galleon]

This was my team

For round 4

[keen jasper]

That's your problem

You don't have a Sp. Def. buffer

[nova galleon]

Brendan

[keen jasper]

Sure

[austere quest]

Been trying SS Hilda on Glacia and oh boy is that not great

Going to have to try something else because she keeps dying before Sync 1 which is very funny

[swift swan]

you mean your team's first sync?

she's a good option vs Glacia... glacia just hits too damn hard

[sand karma]

Does Sidney gain something at half health that makes him super tanky or something?

[keen jasper]

Doesn't

[sand karma]

My SSWally sync did more damage the first time than after the rebuff the second time

What parameter do you guys choose when you can't give up stat reduction and status fx

[keen jasper]

Did both of those syncs crit?

Because he'd definitely deal more damage because of the rebuff and those extra stats

[sand karma]

How do you check that

[keen jasper]

All I know is the sound effect

[formal vigil]

Were they both under fairy zone

[keen jasper]

Oh yeah, and that too

[sand karma]

Yeah i forgot to zone before the second sync righttt

[keen jasper]

Ah no wonder, he lost the innate boost from the sync and the innate boost from the zone

[sand karma]

I tried using gradual healing at start parameter it was not happening now I'm trying with reduced ally hp

[austere quest]

Glacia was the hardest out of everyone today

Drake, I had to offtype because I wasn’t able to survive First Sync with my SC Hilda team

Managed to kill him before he sync’d offtype

Not sure if that’s an issue on my reliance on offtyping

[steel kelp]

As long as it gets the job done does it matter

[keen jasper]

If it works, then it works

[frosty axle]

I've added all week 2 videos now #1049327702886318110 message

[pine spruce]

ah damn it

R3 Glacia or Pheobe?

[keen jasper]

Neither

[pine spruce]

well fuck

[keen jasper]

Both of them are fully special

[formal vigil]

If its just those two left phoebe tbh

[toxic cobalt]

Hope for paralysis procs

[pine spruce]

used hau as the para proc lol

now I have to face endless hail

[keen jasper]

Not if you have a sun setter

[formal vigil]

It's fine replace it with perma sun

[keen jasper]

Before you sync with your nuker, make sure to change the weather to sunny

[pine spruce]

or maybe rain?

there's an eiscue though

[keen jasper]

Because you know, Glacia uses Hail before she syncs

[keen jasper]

Eiscue is only protected from 1 physical attack

[toxic cobalt]

Sun first turn and then sun right after hail

Then all you have to do is survive normal Glacia

[keen jasper]

Silver will melt her to death

[pine spruce]

I sprayed her pressurized water

Anyway, what bonus effect should I pick on wallace?

[keen jasper]

Definitely perma field effects

Most grass-types benefit from sun

[full mesa]

Also hydro pump and surf are powerful under weather.

[austere quest]

Fair

[pine spruce]

surf deffo became 100+ damage per hit after 2 syncs

[pine spruce]

It's raining?

and first medal complete!

[peak stirrup]

Who is a good tank to pair with Diantha and SS Wally for Round 2 Sidney?
Eevee worked

[reef sierra]

I cant believe full support team worked

[zealous karma]

Is it possible to win like this?

[zealous karma]

Sycamore can solo this stage (probably)

[full mesa]

No

[void wyvern]

Just sync with Gloria what could go wrong

[zealous karma]

Hype

[full mesa]

Does her sync deal more than PalSeren?

[void wyvern]

Absolutely not

[zealous karma]

PSerena delt 16K critless so I don’t think gloria is beating that lel

Relying on a. 10% Atk drop

Maybe with sync params I can lel

[zealous karma]

For an optimization run would it be considered cheating to change my tactics

[subtle forge]

No? I change my tactics during my optimize runs

No one’s looking over my shoulder and telling me I’m wrong

[void wyvern]

B-but the game says “this” is the best strategy! /jk

[subtle forge]

Life is a lot nicer when you realize there ain’t someone whispering over your shoulder how wrong you are

At least online and mostly irl

[void wyvern]

Those are actually really good words to live by.

[subtle forge]

It could happen sometimes irl like literally. But at that point I would just smack the other person away tbh

Anyways this is CS chat. I will do my run later

[void wyvern]

Phoebe is officially grinding my gears, I’ve missed thunder twice in a row with accuracy up by two stages.

[trail smelt]

With Eggchu?

[void wyvern]

SS Elesa

[rigid flint]

Eggchu has piercing gaze

So accuracy isn't an issue

Well assuming people are using the 3 passives eggmons

[long thicket]

A little surprised, but I got 2k Drake in two turns.

WHAT???

Okay, something went weird.
After the fight, it said I've reached 1800 points, but it does say 2000 in the menu.

Anyway, did it with Ingo, Emmet and Classic Blue, no EXes.

[old orchid]

You did 2k points, but there isnt any reward at 2k, so it displayed the reward at 1k8 instead

[long thicket]

I see, I was worried I did something wrong with the parameters.

[keen silo]

Does glacia have any accuracy buffs

[old orchid]

Yes

She has Pinpoint Entry 2

[keen silo]

Ok thanks 👍

[swift swan]

good morning CS chat, I made this on a whim

[toxic cobalt]

Glacia is a crit buffer now

[swift swan]

slight improvement but still

[molten nimbus]

glacia now is surely isnt a slight improvement lol

she's now a usable unit

[toxic cobalt]

Glacia has no power over a Round 1 Whitney

[old orchid]

Whitney is an E4

[swift swan]

flincher Whitney

vs R1 Glacia

[old orchid]

Oh

[swift swan]

I guess that's a safe way of handling glacia. flinch her whenever she wants to do blizzard/icy wind

[keen jasper]

And flinch her when she's about to do Hail?

[swift swan]

yeah, if you can

[pine spruce]

man I don't think I can do MM yet

[swift swan]

it's alright, everyone has their own pace

the bare minimum to get all the good rewards is 4.2k but you can always try with lower points first

[keen jasper]

But when you're beginning, you can go as high as you can right?

Like me when I started my very first MM, I immediately jumped to 7.9k pts.

[old orchid]

I joined during the 1st anni, but only began doing CS since Johto

[swift swan]

When was Johto

[old orchid]

Jan 2020 iirc

[swift swan]

sure, but the difficulty jump can be daunting for some people

I started in 2nd anni and after doing 4.2k points, I just raised my points a couple hundred every week

only started doing 10k in April

the difficulty jump scared me lol

[keen jasper]

I started in April 1 this year

[old orchid]

I remember doing 3 stall teams

[swift swan]

my first 10k was Kanto, and then I immediately 10k'd Sinnoh out of stubbornness because I didn't want to lose my 10k streak lmao

been doing 10k since then

[keen jasper]

I think my first and only time that I used poison stall was against Cynthia

[swift swan]

I stalled quite a lot of stages

[old orchid]

Me too

[swift swan]

I think my main reason I held off doing 10k for so long was I didn't know the right parameters

[old orchid]

I still remember when i struggled with bug weak Karen even with stall

[swift swan]

I discovered presync parameters, tweaked it a bit, and been using hyper offensive params for 10k since then someone save me from this addictive hellhole lmao

[old orchid]

I usually do strength 6 parameters with a bit atk param

[keen jasper]

I sometimes switch from Strength 6 to HP 6

[old orchid]

I rarely pick HP 6 unless i want to play techs

But not in Sinnoh and Hoenn CS

They are so bulky

[swift swan]

sometimes I wish I had picked HP 6 because the battle ended too quickly

last week Kris was doing 13k per mega kick and I couldn't even see her nuke

[toxic cobalt]

DPS is underrated

[keen jasper]

When I usually test a unit's full potential, I always go with max HP, defense and strength parameters

[swift swan]

huh

I imagine you'd want no defensive buffs at all so you can see the biggest numbers

[keen jasper]

That's kinda pointless because they're gonna mostly damage cap either way

[swift swan]

fair

[keen jasper]

Like when I did water-weak Steven with 3/5 Cerena, she still damage capped Steven at max HP, strength and defense parameters even with -1 water rebuff

[old orchid]

The frog is crazy op

[swift swan]

that's what we say to almost all recent techs

this fire chicken is crazy OP. this V-looking gremlin is very OP. this frog is very OP. this rat is very OP.

[keen jasper]

And Cerena did 22k against dark-weak Phoebe, did not crit and without dark zone with max HP, strength and defense paramters

So Cerena can also damage cap any dark-weak stage even with max HP, strength and defense parameters assuming it doesn't have SE x2

[old orchid]

Im thinking of candying Cerena to 3/5 next, but i like Anni May more and there are SC Rosa and SSTRed needing candies

[keen jasper]

She can also potentially damage cap off-type, but that is without defensive parameters

Also, does the R1 parameter work with innate passives and not grid passives?

[old orchid]

It only works with secondary effect of moves

[dark osprey]

I think it works like a hostile environment. It shouldn't work on staggering right?

[keen jasper]

Ahh too bad, I was hoping for 60% AoE flinch with Cerena

[old orchid]

Like it boosts the chance of flinch of Thunder Fang, but it doesnt work on Aggravation 4 in Volkner's case

[keen jasper]

[old orchid]

Too op smh

[keen jasper]

SS Lyra 2.0

[void wyvern]

But it feels like it does

I never missed a single flinch.

[old orchid]

It does because it boosts the innate flinch chance

[void wyvern]

Ooooh. I see.

[old orchid]

It makes him 100% chance to flinch

[void wyvern]

20x5 is 100

[keen jasper]

10 (base) * 5 (HE4) * 2 (Round parameter)

[void wyvern]

I see I see. That makes a lot of sense.

in other news. Roxxane is a better striker than grant

[old orchid]

Innate Surging Sand 5 win

[toxic cobalt]

You’re saying I should’ve Roxanned Drake?

[keen jasper]

Man I really wished that extra effect parameter could work on passives

I really would love 60% AoE flinch chance with Cerena, that way people will question why they spent on SS Lyra

[void wyvern]

Do it.

I keep getting really close

[toxic cobalt]

She hasn’t worked for me

In the last

[void wyvern]

I will build ss brock one day.

[toxic cobalt]

Past

SS Brock has aoe flinching

But I always forget he exists

[keen jasper]

Why did DeNA give Roxanne such horrible HP stat?

[void wyvern]

I can kill mid with roxxane. I just can’t kill the sides.

[old orchid]

She will be op with 789 HP

[keen jasper]

If her HP was higher, then she would've been even better

[dark osprey]

They could have at least given her the quick fix for that with first aid

And synchro healing would have been nice with an EX

[old orchid]

Erika stole her ex lottery

At least she has Endurance for extra hit

[dark osprey]

Oh yeah. Erika EX was weird

[old orchid]

Dena feared that people will ex Roxanne and wont pull for any future special supports

[keen jasper]

Ah yes, because supports like Sycamore and Hop don't exist

[swift swan]

I'll EX Roxanne ngl

mine's already 5*

I'm ready

[keen jasper]

Nah, I'd rather have more HP on Roxanne than EX her

[toxic cobalt]

Getting to EX adds HP

[keen jasper]

I mean, her base HP is horrendous even at 5*

[zealous karma]

How will she get 789 Hp lel

[swift swan]

powerboost

[zealous karma]

Roxanne has such a good kit

She already has pretty good defenses

And a good buffing kit

Just imagine if they have her critical squad she’d buff everything

[swift swan]

I don't mind her not buffing crit. I wish she could take a bit more hits though

[toxic cobalt]

I’ll take grid expansion with health buffs and sync healing

[keen jasper]

Needs more HP

[zealous karma]

She has block and heal lel

[swift swan]

not enough

[keen jasper]

Moar HP I say

[zealous karma]

What h was hoping for Roxanne grid was basically what Aaron got

Stat share ancient power

But stat share didn’t exist yet

But Roxanne had an amazing kit for a launch unit

Her grid gave her pretty much everything and more

[toxic cobalt]

I used her for spdef this week. Is very funny.

[swift swan]

she's one of the rare supports who give sp attack and defense buffs

[zealous karma]

Rock DPS???

[old orchid]

Spatk and speed buff in a support is kinda rare too

[zealous karma]

I can only think of her and Sabrina and Sabrina does it via grid

[old orchid]

They dont have EX yet

[keen jasper]

Who's a mega support unit that can buff Sp. Atk. and crit?

[zealous karma]

Sycamore Ex would be so helpful for optimized fairy

[zealous karma]

Brendan

[old orchid]

SS Brendan

[zealous karma]

Sabrina

[old orchid]

And SS Blue

[dark osprey]

Glacia

[keen jasper]

And Sabrina's literally the only one I have, oh well...

[old orchid]

Kiawe too, also Elio with 3/5 grid. There are still more

[zealous karma]

Amphy jasmine at 3/5

[toxic cobalt]

SS Blue is far too slow

[dark osprey]

Mesprit is kinda Roxanne

[zealous karma]

Those units are so slow lel

[zealous karma]

It’s grid also gives ramped up iirc

Mesprit is a really good kit