Champion Stadium

[old orchid]

Use this grid instead

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/13500/35900?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBgsNDxARIyUpKywtLg

You didnt pick 2 most important tiles

[hidden ore]

Presync?

[old orchid]

I think that team can pre sync if you so quad queue

Tho i would replace Piers with someone else

[hidden ore]

Which supp?

SsMorty, Emmet?

[old orchid]

Can you post your support roster here?

Screenshot your roster at potential and move level menu

[hidden ore]

EX ones

[old orchid]

How about the non ex ones?

[void wyvern]

You can actually get the 4th sync damage up node if you give up critical charge. Unless critical charge is important for that grid.

[old orchid]

CC9 is really nice for teams that dont have much speed buff. His sync dmg is already high

[zealous karma]

Sentry entry x2

[void wyvern]

Is this 2k?

[hidden ore]

Yes

[old orchid]

Oh yeah i forgot

[void wyvern]

Because I just tested Sidney I wasn’t able to make a dent on first sync and I have an ex.

[hidden ore]

I’m thinking of 2k presync or post

[cold tusk]

whats the info on this resets cs

[old orchid]

So post sync then

[void wyvern]

If you want to do Sidney you’re going post

[hidden ore]

But which support?

[zealous karma]

With first sync I only got 21+K with MR ex zone and rebuff but got 78K with support ex and same stuff

[void wyvern]

Or you can do an adrenaline grid with Sidney

[old orchid]

Any defensive supports like BP Morty

[swift swan]

Bumping this down

@cold tusk

[cold tusk]

👍

[void wyvern]

Thank you for writing these up. They’re very helpful.

[old orchid]

Pls no half sync param this week

[void wyvern]

No way they do it twice.

[old orchid]

They appeared 3 weeks in a row in the past

[void wyvern]

But with silver power boost. Half sync glacia is kinda free.

[old orchid]

Or 4 i dont remember clearly

[zealous karma]

It was unova for an entire month iirc

Of half sync

[old orchid]

[void wyvern]

That sounds cursed.

[hidden ore]

Okay so BP Morty or SS Blue?

Don’t really know which ones 😦

Chose post sync, but should I replace sth here?

Like no stat reduction/conds

[old orchid]

Karen, Sidney and Morty

Dont pick no stat reduction

Karen needs spatk debuffs

Ideally reset for Morty TM MPR

[hidden ore]

Gradual healing then?

I admit I hate that one 😅

[old orchid]

Check the recommended params in the pins

[hidden ore]

So max hp or additional strenght 🤔

[old orchid]

Addition strengths

[void wyvern]

Did anyone ever manage to beat Glacia with thorton as their main damage dealer?

[old orchid]

I recommend checking #1009587872342478908 pins

[zealous karma]

I’d run Elessa alongside Karen for the faster sync

[hidden ore]

What about params?

Gosh I hate setting them

Set post sync, but I feel something’s odd

[void wyvern]

What do you think is odd?

Today I learned Strength 12 makes the enemies very bulky

[hidden ore]

I’d love to not make them faint my supp before sync

Something that works for both Absol & Houndoom

Problem is that I don’t know what to set after not clicking no stat reduction

[void wyvern]

What have you set so far?

[old orchid]

Sidney is there to activate Foul Fighting and chip damage

And extra potion

[old orchid]

Check the pins

[hidden ore]

I’ve checked them

[void wyvern]

Probably want to run attack, or hp if you’re confident in your damage.

[wicked pebble]

Huh, I don't have hoenn done.

anyone up for helping with it?

[hidden ore]

@void wyvern @old orchid

[void wyvern]

We can help. Just let us know where you’d like to start.

[hidden ore]

I went with def 😢
Dont know whats wrong

Similar effect with bp morty

The supp faint too quick

[void wyvern]

Phoebe is a damage check.

Give me a moment to think.

And what round is this?

[hidden ore]

R2

[void wyvern]

Lovely.

I need to do some testing

which is hard because my Karen is ex

[hidden ore]

Mine is too

So it will help

[void wyvern]

Okay that does actually make my life easier

Is Elesa 3/5?

[wicked pebble]

Using Kyu!N, EX Steven, Furbert, Alder, and SS Grims for strikers

anyone who'd help them while helping get types done?

[void wyvern]

Need to see your supports showing their move level to answer this

[hidden ore]

5/5 non ex

Sidney 4/5 no ex

[void wyvern]

Sidney might get subbed out.

Do you have Rachel?

[hidden ore]

Yes!

[void wyvern]

Okay that gives me some options

Obviously you have Viola.

Okay let me do some tests

[void wyvern]

Format is actually rather nice.

[wicked pebble]

Thank Sync Pair Tracker.

should I get what I have for strikers for the different types?

Probably don't need it for steel but...

(First clear, remember, need toget types covered)

[void wyvern]

First first clear

[hidden ore]

How’s testing?

[void wyvern]

Making progress. Have a team down. Need to fiddle with parameters

[hidden ore]

Is it with Viola?

Upgraded her

[void wyvern]

Viola is helping

But I’m being faced with the issue that I can’t pass the damage check.

You can do spring burgh, Ss N and any Winnona for Drake

Use Marley , Gio, and sc Jasmine (run mind games 4 on jasmines grid) for glacia

Use alder viola and classic gio for Sidney.

Start there and see how far you get @wicked pebble

Gosh Phoebe really is a pain. Thank you for carrying me SS cyrus.

[hidden ore]

Hmm so Viola EleSSa & Karen?

[void wyvern]

I’m not having a ton of luck. I’m getting close. But not there.

I might consider off typing

[wicked pebble]

Why Viola?

[void wyvern]

Devastation/Overpower

Rachel would work but she’s limited nor was she listed

Oh yes, lt surge. You can use him instead

Or Anni n if you have him

[zealous karma]

Would you like a video for some aid ?

[hidden ore]

Yes

Again struggling at 3am 😅😅😅

I struggle with Phoebe and rock weak Flint before ruined me

[void wyvern]

Please help.

[zealous karma]

Do you have SSLyra?

[hidden ore]

Nope 😢

[zealous karma]

Man

[hidden ore]

Game was crashing crazy at that time for me 😭😭😭

[void wyvern]

I didn’t see red there

Hmmmmmm

I might have something again

[zealous karma]

Wow Karen is not a good unit at all

[void wyvern]

Not without zone.

[wicked pebble]

I need a bug striker though

So bug is already covered

remember, this is pre-Master Mode.

[hidden ore]

I went with post sync

[void wyvern]

You don’t need to cover 15 types in one go.

[wicked pebble]

I kinda like to, so the next part isn't so bad.

[zealous karma]

Imagine being reliant on one of the more rare zones dies irl

[hidden ore]

Offtype it?

[zealous karma]

I’m sorry I can’t get a video recorded

[void wyvern]

So instead of viola use lt surge

[wicked pebble]

I mean, I have Ash and Redchu.

[zealous karma]

If you have a good special off typer definelty do I’m unfortunately busy rn

Bug is really easy

Just use bugsy and Noland

[wicked pebble]

any of these work?

[zealous karma]

Bugsy and Noland (I was referring to Netta tho)

[zealous karma]

https://streamable.com/q6j6bb

[void wyvern]

I’ll stay around and help Good luck pichu!

[wicked pebble]

I mean... not waht I was asking about?

I linked with a post on what I had for a reason

[void wyvern]

Run Emmett, Hilbert, and bp clemont

There’s 3 types, should be relatively simple.

[wicked pebble]

Isn't water covered already?

That... isn't really three types.

[void wyvern]

Nope. Didn’t use water

For a moment I was thinking I was crazy.

[wicked pebble]

By default, this round, ice, steel, bug, water, and dark are covered

[void wyvern]

Fiiiine.

[wicked pebble]

Does Ice N need Gauge Support at all? Or is the charge move stuff sufficient enough to never need to worry about it since it takes two turns?

[void wyvern]

He doesn’t particularly need gauge support

Use Nita instead of Hilbert

Ground isn’t covered.

[wicked pebble]

Furbert would want potions, right? To manage recoil damage?

[void wyvern]

Furbert is a bad idea for Phoebe

Sentry x2

[old orchid]

Do you any special dark type?

[swift swan]

generally double edge isn't recommended for furbert unless it's the very last move you need to win

but yeah, phoebe's sentry entry can be a roadblock

[void wyvern]

Phoebe’s existence is a roadblock.

[wicked pebble]

So... what then? Offtype?

lacking in dark type coverage.

[void wyvern]

Probably. Use ash.

Then pick a support of a type you haven’t used and go wild.

[hidden ore]

Did it!
Thank you for helping 😊
Tips helped, but had to offtype it after so many tries 😅

[void wyvern]

No shame in that. I’m happy it all worked out for you!

[swift swan]

yeah, offtyping is always a valid option

like I'd rather offtype a bug-weak stage with a beast like SS Steven than struggle with using Guzma

[zealous karma]

I mean if I posted a video do 2 but units winning would that mean they work or would it imply they don’t?

[wicked pebble]

Teams worked out, how dis?

[void wyvern]

Best way to find it is to go for it. But they look well rounded.

[wicked pebble]

Hoping Cynthia is a good pick due to defense buffs and healing.

So Sharpedo does not evaporate on contact with spread moves.

[dark osprey]

Maybe replace Liza with rain?

[wicked pebble]

First runthrough.

I don't think there's any non-water rain setters.

[swift swan]

winona

[wicked pebble]

Using flying to finish Alder's buffs.

Not sure if that's a good idea.

[trail smelt]

Less than 2 hours remain get your crap done

[swift swan]

Alder maxes his sp attack in 1 click of his TM. I don't think Falkner there is necessary

Burgh is enough to give Alder crit

[old orchid]

The problem is gauge tho

Gauge might be a bit clunky

[swift swan]

ah true. well at least Metronome has a very long animation and burgh has catalyst

not sure if that burgh is EX'd for not

[void wyvern]

It is

Did anyone ever manage to beat out Glacia with thorton?

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Thorton with Raihan and SSKris

[old orchid]

Haven't seen any Thorton clear lol

[dark osprey]

But seems like a good idea to try

[old orchid]

No defense debuff?

[dark osprey]

With SSLyra and pal Marnie maybe

[old orchid]

Gauge is painful

[dark osprey]

I mean thorton would be just there

[old orchid]

[wicked pebble]

And done.

[void wyvern]

Okay. I’m gonna go beat my head into a wall to see if it’s possible.

[dark osprey]

The thing is that whatever you bring with thorton is better than him

[void wyvern]

But

What if I did thorton only striker

I was gonna do it in steel zone buuuuut

You asked for this ark.

[dark osprey]

Haha. My bad

[void wyvern]

I hope the video fits

[dark osprey]

Sc jasmine may be able to nuke better

[swift swan]

#1015843845008793690 message I found this? but idk the parameters or anything

[old orchid]

Tbh his nuke is good

[void wyvern]

Don’t worry. I’ll bang my head until results come out

[old orchid]

Its just his kit is trash

[swift swan]

does anyone have thorton EX to try it out

[void wyvern]

With solo thorton striker. No Lyra for support, no steel zone

[void wyvern]

Me Lmao

[swift swan]

oh my gosh

rare specimen

Thorton is that one sync pair I always forget has an EX

[void wyvern]

So what am I testing?

[swift swan]

Thorton as the sole striker?

[void wyvern]

Oh boy

[swift swan]

idk if he can do it without steel zone

[void wyvern]

Am I allowed steel zone?

Okay. Nope.

Can I ping you with results?

[swift swan]

try with and without, maybe

[dark osprey]

Lol. Nice

[swift swan]

sure

[void wyvern]

Okay. Gonna go test

[swift swan]

good luck

[void wyvern]

I candied Cerena solely for this testing

Even though I definitely don’t need her.

[dark osprey]

good excuse to candy cerena i guess

[void wyvern]

I was already on the fence about it

I wanted too. I wanted to wait to see for seasonal poke fair select.

[dark osprey]

yeah. me too. then looked and thought my special offtypers are mainly psychic

so might as well

[void wyvern]

I lied it was worth it she has defence crush 9

[dark osprey]

who are u eyeing?

[void wyvern]

Sc ingo, Anni Skyla, and pal Marnie.

[dark osprey]

lol yeah. though that staggering proc at base itself is awesome

[dark osprey]

oh. thought anni skyla wasn't seasonal

[void wyvern]

She isn’t

But they ran a poke fair select last year.

I expect them to do so again.

Also means I can scoop up Brendan who I missed

[dark osprey]

ah yeah. brendan would be awesome too

[void wyvern]

@dark osprey @swift swan okay I did it without any difficulty whatsoever

[dark osprey]

whoa. nice

[void wyvern]

Let me just process the video

[dark osprey]

i guess the flinch is the only thing stopping him

[void wyvern]

Lmao. Maybe you’ll uh…see it differently

I’ll post it my stage clears so mods don’t look at us like we’re crazy. You can find it by just searching “Joey” in the threads

[swift swan]

anyone will look at us like we're crazy for attempting to use thorton

[void wyvern]

But I am crazy!

The real challenge which I couldn’t succeed at was beating ice weak Drake with loreili as the main striker.

[dark osprey]

nice. u do have thorton EX right?

Lorelei's grid will be awesome

[void wyvern]

Yes. He’s ex’d.

[dark osprey]

that's the crazy part

[void wyvern]

Get ready for hostile environment 1 on her grid!

[dark osprey]

ah. much needed

[void wyvern]

For a…20 percent chance of blizzard freezing!

Which is…not very useful!

[dark osprey]

no way

isn't it already 20

oh aoe as well

[void wyvern]

No. It’s aoe so it gets cut in half

At least lorieli will get…ramming speed!

[dark osprey]

crap.

and we've got so many hail setters so that direction would also not help

[void wyvern]

Also don’t forget her sync’s innate boost is freezer burn. Freezer burn.

[dark osprey]

we literally have 2 hail setting eggmons better than lorelei

oh yeah. guess she won't be great at nuking

[void wyvern]

She won’t be great at anything…

[dark osprey]

wouldn't mind her being a tank somehow

with sharp entry or something

[void wyvern]

Haha. You’re funny Ark

[dark osprey]

one can only hope

[void wyvern]

Her, tanking stuff. You tell the funniest jokes.

[dark osprey]

i mean that TM is just horrible mostly

[void wyvern]

It’s useful…if you take the hp down by half param

[dark osprey]

ah yeah i guess. wish Ghetsis gained something from hail

[void wyvern]

Ghetsis doesn’t even have snow shelter.

[dark osprey]

or even SSN

i guess at least SSN has snow shelter

they really need to do something with hail. there's so many who set hail in one way or the other & it is still quite bad

[void wyvern]

May I introduce you to our lord and saviour…Candice!

[swift swan]

I mean, she's ungridded. I'm not too surprised

[dark osprey]

ah. she is mine too for sure. EXed her and all. even pulled for SSN just to compensate

[zealous karma]

287 at 20/20 5* is a feel bad

[swift swan]

I still haven't gotten into the candice hype

[dark osprey]

once u go candice, u won't go back. build around her then

[dark osprey]

yeah. maybe they'll give 3 sync multipliers since the innate is hard to achieve

[zealous karma]

Is her innate freeze?

[dark osprey]

they could give her mind games to compensate

yeah freeze

[void wyvern]

She needs way more than mind games

[zealous karma]

+100 Spatk tile for 3 energy

[dark osprey]

how much does thorton have btw?

[void wyvern]

329

I think

Don’t quote me

[dark osprey]

i guess so maxed out at 150 maybe

[void wyvern]

Thorton at max has 309

I was thinking of Candice who has 320

[zealous karma]

Then why did he only hit 13K for me

[void wyvern]

No ex?

No flinch?

[zealous karma]

That’s the last thing I’ll ever do before Eos

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1015843845008793690/1050926462837997688/RPReplay_Final1670630748.mov

[void wyvern]

Your thorton is broken?

What grid did you use?

[void wyvern]

Actually, does master passive apply to syncs?

[zealous karma]

No

[void wyvern]

Wonky.

[dark osprey]

that does seem quite bad ngl

[void wyvern]

Because with Cerena I got 29k

[dark osprey]

maybe strength 12 or something?

[void wyvern]

I did strength 7

[zealous karma]

Strength 12 hype

[void wyvern]

Strength 12 makes them more bulky than max hp to me

That or I just like watching the big numbers slowly chip away at them.

[dark osprey]

strength 1 is the way to go

[zealous karma]

Flinch must’ve ran out during my sync

[void wyvern]

Maybe. But it checks when you queue it.

Kinda like sync power flux

[trail smelt]

I use Strength 8-10 depending on whether I need status effect or debuffs

[dark osprey]

yeah. it did seem like that. and it did crit as well right?

[void wyvern]

It did

[dark osprey]

honestly, have realized EX really makes a huge difference

[void wyvern]

The 20 stats and the 1.5 do help

[zealous karma]

That was a 4* thorton

Idk what happened like genuinely

[void wyvern]

Oh. That makes a bit more sense

40 stat difference. Lack of ex.

[dark osprey]

ah yeah.

[zealous karma]

No I mean in the calc I did

[swift swan]

Richu in denial

[void wyvern]

I don’t understand how those calculations work.

[dark osprey]

hah. same here

[void wyvern]

Let me test thorton again. First sync no theme skills.

Strength 7

Max out relentless

The puzzle grows

[old orchid]

imagine this with zone

[void wyvern]

I’m making my head hurt. I have a theory. But I don’t know how to test it.

It’s that you queued sync when they weren’t flinched but then flinched them in between

I have my order wrong.

Nope. I thought if you queued the sync before you flinched them it wouldn’t count. It did.

[dark osprey]

that would be just even more sadder

[void wyvern]

The only conclusion is the parameters.

[dark osprey]

yeah. Rich does go full on strength mostly

[void wyvern]

Yeah. Full strength can make stuff deceptively bulky.

[zealous karma]

We’re trying to figure it out in the research and findings channel

[void wyvern]

Can you link it?

[zealous karma]

#916852044692856834

[void wyvern]

Thank you!

[swift swan]

Bumping this down again

[keen jasper]

Round 1: Increased additional effects from moves
Round 2: Stat debuffs have stronger effect
Round 3: Special damage increase
Round 4: Permanent field effects

[swift swan]

R1: Additional effects from moves are more likely to occur
R2: Debuffs are more effective (be careful with Drake here)
R3: Special attack moves are powered up (be careful with Glacia here)
R4: Permanent field effects
R5: Move gauge increases faster

Perma field my beloved

[keen jasper]

Grassy Terrain Lyrabi intensifies

[swift swan]

and once again, no mods are available to pin

[dark osprey]

thanks Nov

[keen jasper]

Maybe they're all enjoying their weekend

[swift swan]

meanwhile me, on a monday, just finishing a final term test

[old orchid]

this week params are really good

[zealous karma]

100% flinch chance from Volkner

[swift swan]

Just fought R1 Drake with Hilbert/Olivia/Acerola and Drake could barely get a move in

Flincherola strikes again

[main crow]

Permanent field effect my beloved

Very nice parameters this week thank god

[void wyvern]

Is grass Wallace new?

[old orchid]

kinda

this stage was unused until this CS

[void wyvern]

I see. I like that.

How does additional effects are more likely to work function? Does it just double to probability of it happen?

[swift swan]

it's basically like an extra aggravation for status changes? and prooobably extra Hostile Environment for status conditions. don't quote me on the status conditions part tho

[void wyvern]

Drake is team slow mo not ripple effect right?

[swift swan]

Mina is testing my patience by Not Critting

[steel kelp]

Off type

[void wyvern]

Give into Valerie

[steel kelp]

I will never join the Mina cult

[keen jasper]

Join the SS Wally cult

[steel kelp]

Don’t have him

Fairy feels like it’s dying

[swift swan]

over my dead body

[steel kelp]

In terms of having like no units

[swift swan]

Mina did 31k post support sync... Sidney lived with a sliver of HP

I think I need to adjust my params

[steel kelp]

Especially compared to like fire and water

[keen jasper]

Same as poison

[steel kelp]

Are syncing with Mina twice or support then her?

I’ll give her a few tries before I off type

Poison is basically nonexistent with how few units it gets

[lost gulch]

sidney any gimmicks

[steel kelp]

Aoe para before sync

[void wyvern]

Furious brain

High hp

[keen jasper]

Fairy-weak Sidney: Mid is mostly physical, right is mostly special, left is mixed. Very bulky HP (almost 29k). Low resistance to special attack debuffs (Lessen 3). Low resistance to paralysis and confusion (Lessen 5). Has AOE Thunder Wave right before sync. Mid has Furious Brain which raises the power of moves the more special attack is raised.

Electric-weak Phoebe: Mid is mostly special. Sides are fully special. Very bulky HP (almost 29k). Low resistance to paralysis (Lessen 5). All 3 have Healthy Advantage 4 which reduces damage taken when not affected by status condition.
Tip: Piercing Blows and other moves with a similar effect can ignore this.

Fire-weak Glacia: Fully special stage. Bulky HP (25k). High attack and special attack stats. Sets Hail on entry and right before sync. Has a lot of Hail-related passives so changing the weather is recommended. Left has Ice Face.

Rock-weak Drake: Mid and right are fully physical, left is mixed. Low attack and special attack stats. Has low resistance to defense debuffs (Lessen 3). Mid has Tough Cookie which increases the power of moves the more defense is raised. Mid lowers your AOE speed a lot.

Grass-weak Wallace: Fully special stage. Bulky HP (21k). Low attack and special attack stats. Sets rain on entry and after sync and extends the duration of rain. Has a lot of Rain-related passives so changing the weather is recommended. All 3 have Wise Entry x2 which doubles the base special defense stat (Piercing Blows and other moves with a similar effect do not ignore this). Physical moves is recommended.

From @swift swan (sorry for the ping, just giving credit)

[swift swan]

Lmao Gladion did 15k post support EX sync... with SEUP...

and mine's EX'd too

pls if there's a unit that needs powerboost, it's him

[dark osprey]

have u seen those defense stats. he's just OP enough

[old orchid]

he just needs more nuking tools

and +40 atk like Kris

[dark osprey]

oh Kris be busted. its like just don't be bothered about any other water type damage dealer for a while

at least physical

don't think they'll do that for Gladion since all the types

had the wrong grid on Silver & did like 9k on sync. came back here to check if Glacia had sentry entry

[sand karma]

Which boss is best for which round?

[dark osprey]

personally went for Phoebe, Sidney, Drake, Glacia

depends on ur roster though

can check out stage clears for others who have similar teams as yours

[sand karma]

I'm using Ash, Sonia, Volkner for Phoebe
Sycamore, SSWally, some other support for Sidney
SSBlue, Cerena for Drake
Idk who to pair with Silver other than Blaine

[dark osprey]

think u don't have SS Morty. can even use Lyra with Light screen then

and use rain with Cerena

[sand karma]

Oh i was thinking of keeping Lyra with sserika but she can do with anyone

[dark osprey]

SS Wally doesn't go great with sycamore tbh

[sand karma]

Okay

[dark osprey]

sycamore needs the sync for speed & sp atk buffs

[sand karma]

The only sp def debuffers i have are SSHilbert and Koga

[dark osprey]

no need of the sp defense debuffers. just probably get in another fairy dps

[sand karma]

Wally can self buff spark fully

[dark osprey]

Mina is good

[swift swan]

Screw Sidney for having almost 29k base HP while also being weak to a down-bad type

[sand karma]

Wouldn't wallys sync still be better than hers

[steel kelp]

Fairy weak stage = off type stage

[main crow]

Last Word Funne :)

[dark osprey]

yes yes. sync with Wally. Mina is kinda for the dps could also use Lisia if u have her. extra CS points for Crit defense

if ur wally is 3/5 or something. can do a first sync ohko of the centre

[steel kelp]

Time to bully Wallace with SS lyra

[dark osprey]

SS Lyra only would be a slow painful death

with SS Erika its just blitz

[swift swan]

ss lyra isn't exactly a slow death either lmao

grassy glide hits hard

[main crow]

Not only hard but it's oppresive as all hell lmao

[dark osprey]

true. it does. just that SS Erika goes crazy plus the physical sync too

[main crow]

I forgot I was doing post sync due to all the flinch delaying Wallace

[spring fable]

Any entries this week?

[formal vigil]

Wallace has wise entry x2

[dark osprey]

Sophocles hits real hard right? is it worth going for a sync nuke with him? his dps itself seems really good

[steel kelp]

Easy 10k

[formal vigil]

Like how ss wally did damage cap with max strength paramas

[main crow]

He has double down and tough sync so yeah he does have a pretty good sync as far as BP goes

[dark osprey]

yeah i guess the sync grid can coexist with the dps grid

[trail smelt]

LMAO this week was so easy it’s hilarious

Ready for next week

[steel kelp]

The params were basically nonexistent

Also helped that none of them had anything too specific

[dark osprey]

the round paramaters were really helpful

[steel kelp]

Perma field effects is basically a freebie

[trail smelt]

Haha yeah

[steel kelp]

Let’s hope it comes back next week

[trail smelt]

All of my teams want that if only for move gauge acceleration

[main crow]

Perma field effect on grass week is basically a crime scene lmao

[dark osprey]

true that. used as many effects as possible for champ. sun, terrain, light screen

[main crow]

Permanent sun + grassy terrain

[trail smelt]

RIP Wallace

Dude never knew what hit his flamboyant ass

[dark osprey]

poor wallace's first time out too

[main crow]

Touch grass gone wrong

[steel kelp]

He’s never gonna touch grass again

[trail smelt]

It’s funny how OP Grass team is haha

[dark osprey]

maybe folks without SS Lyra & SS Erika may have found it difficult

[steel kelp]

Even then

[swift swan]

if someone clears with Mina at 2k, please ping me

[steel kelp]

Brendan exists

[swift swan]

I'd love to see the team and params

my Mina could only do 31k post support EX sync at most

with SEUP too

[formal vigil]

I used brendan and ss lyra still pisss easy

[steel kelp]

And isn’t Erika pretty good too?

[main crow]

She's good yeah

[swift swan]

still? with SS Lyra there anything is piss easy

[small root]

If I use Victini, does it count for psychic too?

[steel kelp]

How about gardenia

[main crow]

No

[swift swan]

no

[swift swan]

wise entry x2

[trail smelt]

Brendan has to use the bullet seed/nuke build iirc

[small root]

Only the first type so?

[trail smelt]

Only their initial sync move type

[formal vigil]

Her sync is fire so she counts as fire type

[dark osprey]

maybe post sync I guess

[trail smelt]

So in Cerena’s case, she’s water, but CCalem is dark

[swift swan]

on top of Sidney's already bulky HP? I wouldn't dream of that

[trail smelt]

Also Gladion

Is normal

[small root]

Ok thanks

[swift swan]

bumping this down again, just in case

and... wherever that round parameter message is rn

[trail smelt]

Did anybody use new and improved SS Leaf?

[dark osprey]

as in kinda get through to the 3rd sync somehow with denials

[swift swan]

here we go

[swift swan]

I could... but man she takes so long to set-up

[main crow]

Crazy how I was kinda anxious abt Phoebe but the R1 parameter makes me forgot I was doing CSMM

supremacy

[trail smelt]

Haha that’s the main reason SS Leaf is on permanent AoE Toxic duty on my roster

[dark osprey]

oh yeah R1 was what I was so happy about too

[trail smelt]

R1 is begging for Phoebe absolutely

[dark osprey]

5/5 SS leaf? nice. seems better for LGs though with the slow burn setup

[trail smelt]

Nah just 3/5. Still the OLD version lol

Haven’t even messed with it after the upgrade

[swift swan]

mine's 5/5 but I haven't tweaked the grid either

[dark osprey]

ah. lol. then I guess just pinpoint entry

[swift swan]

I candied cause she's my favorite lol

maybe I'll try whatever solo she can do for the next LG

[dark osprey]

can try nuking through wise entry this time I guess

[river pagoda]

not me using brendan on wallace w spatk up 😌

[swift swan]

yeah, and I have her perfect partner too

[dark osprey]

relentless setup does kinda do at least partially for Powerplay as well

[swift swan]

bold

[river pagoda]

ssb endure saved me

but it worked fine

[trail smelt]

To be fair Brendan’s sync is physical so he’s basically fine

[river pagoda]

yeah tht too

more than half hp wth sync

[sand karma]

Isn't light screen better against Wallace than Drake?

[dark osprey]

yeah. better

[trail smelt]

Honestly the permanent light screen and barrier is rather inconsequential lol

On the enemy’s side

[sand karma]

So I'll just use Lyra with sserika and Hilbert

[steel kelp]

Oh

[dark osprey]

no need of hilbert also I guess

[main crow]

Man imagine if this was x3 entries

[steel kelp]

Does barrier really matter if you just kill

[trail smelt]

Toxic stall time

[main crow]

Forgot that glacia exists but thank god it's cute reducable kind

[keen jasper]

Imagine using Raihan

Oh wait

[trail smelt]

Also next week I foresee no troubles lol

[keen jasper]

Yeah NVM lol

[swift swan]

focus blast shenanigans go brrr

[trail smelt]

Drake and Phoebe are repeats and had an easy time with them last time

[full mesa]

I'm using BPMorty/Sonia/SSErika and I can't do Wallace. SSErika can't hit for more than 5k per hit...

I hate Hoenn

[steel kelp]

Doesn’t ice drake have wise entry x3?

[full mesa]

I detest it

[trail smelt]

No just x2

[swift swan]

just x2

[keen jasper]

Sync or Solar Blade?

[full mesa]

Both.

[steel kelp]

So ghetsis should be able to clear right

[full mesa]

5k is the cap. Even with 2x sync buff

[swift swan]

can probably try with Brendan instead of BP Morty for extra damage?

[trail smelt]

Drake?

[full mesa]

Under sun of course

[trail smelt]

With some trouble probably

[full mesa]

1/5

[swift swan]

ah

[river pagoda]

works fine

r u doing mm?

i did 1/5 brendan

[trail smelt]

Why is BP Morty there btw?

[full mesa]

Also Sonia can't survive Mid attacks. Wallace hits too hard for no reason.

[trail smelt]

So special defense and pots?

[swift swan]

well shit, ice-weak drake is next week again? time to bust out ol' Hala again then

man, I hated using Hala last time

[full mesa]

Defence/spdef and potion.

[steel kelp]

I refuse to use hala

[dark osprey]

can put shields I guess instead of defenses

[trail smelt]

SSN gonna crush Drake and Karen gonna crush Phoebe haha

[steel kelp]

Like why cut gauge recovery for more damage

[trail smelt]

Again

[keen jasper]

I just use Pryce and Ghetsis

[full mesa]

I hate Hoenn. Those units hits too hard for absolutely no reason.

[swift swan]

wallace has low attack and special attack stats, actually. like, lower than normal

[dark osprey]

maybe setup sun in the begining itself

[steel kelp]

Wallace hits like a wet noodle

[swift swan]

though if he opens with hydro pump, it's better to reset

[river pagoda]

he sets up rain in beginning w pump and after sync iirc

[full mesa]

Ans still hits too hard. 800 damage from surf after one sync without rain.

[swift swan]

yeah. aaalways put sun turn 1. just grab the perma field effects so it doesn't bother your quadqueue

[full mesa]

I remove rain immediately.

[swift swan]

you're postsyncing him?

[full mesa]

I can't pre sync.

SSErika doesn't deal enough.

[swift swan]

this is why you nuke with him instead

[steel kelp]

[swift swan]

is sonia EX'd?

[full mesa]

Yes

SSErika no

[steel kelp]

Mine is only 2/5 anyway

[dark osprey]

that really sounds weird. maybe just cheese it with sleep/flinch in between

[full mesa]

Units?

[steel kelp]

So probably won’t be able to nuke with him

[dark osprey]

can put in Nanu I guess

for def debuffs & flinch

[formal vigil]

Hala gets haymaker at 2/5

[full mesa]

I used SSLyra to take care of Glacia. Another extreme hard hitter for no apparent reason.

[swift swan]

Even bp morty is fine

[full mesa]

Blizzard 2 shots everything

[swift swan]

...ah, was about to ask

[trail smelt]

Huh I had no idea Wallace setup rain

[swift swan]

You can take the first parameter for guaranteed bp morty flinch (he has aggravation on grid)

[dark osprey]

its kinda a tradeoff between flinch or infinite sun

if infinite sun, might as well bring in Lyra for light screen I guess

and then a sleeper/flincher

[dull yarrow]

"The addictional effects of moves are more likely to occur"

doesn't get a single Flinch

[swift swan]

Who's flinching

It doesn't work on things like staggering

[dull yarrow]

Drake

[swift swan]

Only if the move can innately flinch, from what I know

[dull yarrow]

Rock Slide Flinch

[swift swan]

Ah

[dull yarrow]

Phoebe should be an easy one right SST right?

[steel kelp]

Yes

[dull yarrow]

I need your tips @swift swan

[swift swan]

It's here already

Wait

[main crow]

Yeah SST absolutely cheese her

[dull yarrow]

Not pinned

[undone ether]

what order to go into this?

[swift swan]

Here we go

[steel kelp]

Mods sleeping on job

[dull yarrow]

Ty

They should go @swift swan pinning permissions just for this channel

[swift swan]

R1 is good if you have a flincher on your team. For example I fought Drake R1 bcs my team was Hilbert/Olivia/Acerola. Drake could barely get any moves in because he was flinchlocked

[dull yarrow]

Fire weak was pretty easy though with SS May, SS Hilda and what's his face

SS Morty

[steel kelp]

Fire stages are always easy

[dull yarrow]

True

And Electric

[swift swan]

R2 doesn't matter that much. I wouldn't recommend Drake here since he debuffs a lot of speed

[steel kelp]

It’s such a bloated type with strong units

[swift swan]

R3, I don't recommend Glacia

R4 barely matters

[swift swan]

Bumping this down too

[steel kelp]

R4 is the bullying round

[main crow]

Fire Glacia is immediately roasted anyways before she could do anything lol

[dull yarrow]

DEADGE Drifblim

[swift swan]

Electric can be difficult if you don't have the limited pairs

[dull yarrow]

True

So R3 Drake?

[swift swan]

Well that's an option

Barely any rock damage dealer is special anyway so you don't get much of an advantage from that param either

It just becomes neutral

Unless you have classic blue

[dull yarrow]

This should be good yeah?

[swift swan]

Absolutely lmao

[trail smelt]

As long as you have Volkner I feel like Phoebe is down for the count

BP Surge also has Thunder Wave

[swift swan]

I love volkner flinch hax

[dull yarrow]

Dam

[trail smelt]

Only reason I beat Aaron when he first showed up lol

[dull yarrow]

Got a Flinch on Twisted on Raihan

Surprised

*Twisted

[swift swan]

Twisted

[dull yarrow]

HE DIED FROM SANDSTORM

[swift swan]

Welp, that's anticlimactic

[full mesa]

I had to run SCLillie/Lyra/SSErika under perma terrain to do it. Flinch and propulsion.

[main crow]

Grandpa nnnooooooo he lost to the sand 😭

[dull yarrow]

Deadge Salamence

[full mesa]

And we're only half way through Hoenn...

[dull yarrow]

Yikes

I'm scared Diantha isn't going to deal enough damage

for Fairy

[trail smelt]

I didn’t even bother using a fairy type LMAO

[swift swan]

Next week looks disgusting

Dark and ice again, gross

[swift swan]

...why are you afraid

[sick inlet]

Anything i need to watch for before starting this week

[dull yarrow]

I feel like Ice isn't too bad now, I actually like what's his face

Sygna Suit N

[steel kelp]

You actually fairy types

[dull yarrow]

Cause base Diantha doesn't deal enough damage

[main crow]

Oh nah this is overkill

[dull yarrow]

You know....

[steel kelp]

That aren’t Mina

[main crow]

Also this is R4?

[swift swan]

Just read this I guess @sick inlet

[dull yarrow]

if DeNA actually bothered giving Diantha her grid upgrade

[dull yarrow]

Yes

[swift swan]

Diantha is one of the recommended pairs vs sidney

[main crow]

Perma field makes it a whole lot easier since you don't need to actually watch the zone timer

[swift swan]

Plus there's ss wally

[formal vigil]

Just set lilie first target

[swift swan]

Double gardevoir is a lethal team already

[dull yarrow]

True

[swift swan]

You'll be fine

[dull yarrow]

Lemme see how this goes

[swift swan]

I'm just worried about gauges, Lillie is slow

[dull yarrow]

Lillie just there..... cause idk

[summer flare]

I have no idea on how to on type Sydney this week

[main crow]

And Wally can freely spam aoe

[dull yarrow]

I might

[swift swan]

You don't

[dull yarrow]

I guess I could just bring ^ for his MGA

[summer flare]

I almost managed to beat the middle with sycamore dps

[trail smelt]

SSN was very fun last time I used him haha

[dull yarrow]

Same

bonkers damage

[formal vigil]

Same

[dull yarrow]

even at 1/5

[swift swan]

Last time I used Sycamore/Lisia/SS Lyra but that was just SS Lyra carrying the whole team on her tiny onion fairy's back

[dull yarrow]

Okay wish me luck 🙏

[summer flare]

I think I can have a team where sycamore is the carry

[frail grove]

Especially with ss hilbert, ssn 1/5 hits like a truck

[sick inlet]

I didn't read any x2 except wallace

Guess it's time to go test out my offtypes for Sidney 😂

[trail smelt]

Anyway this week’s fairy I just used a different pink team lol

[summer flare]

I likely just need to go ballistic on defenses

[swift swan]

With that fairy team? You don't need it lmao

[trail smelt]

SSSteven is a godsend

[summer flare]

Since eventually SS Kris won't buff sycamore

[swift swan]

Looks fairy enough to me

[summer flare]

Then I guess giving stoic on her brine might do the trick

[swift swan]

This fairy I used a blue team

[trail smelt]

Heck yeah dragons

[summer flare]

I lost my most recent run to a flinch

[formal vigil]

Ss Steven myfavourite fairy type

[trail smelt]

Preach

[spring fable]

NOV I DID IT

[main crow]

DeNA can we have strong fairy types?

DeNA : we already have strong fairy types at home

The strong fairy types at home :

[spring fable]

4.25k first try no resets!

[swift swan]

Yoooo congrats!

[trail smelt]

Congrats

[main crow]

Ayyeee nice

[swift swan]

Nice job

[trail smelt]

Also huh

[swift swan]

Did... Did you use rain vs Wallace you madlad

[trail smelt]

Using rain against Wallace lol

[swift swan]

[spring fable]

I did but only 850 pts

[swift swan]

Ss kris is bulky enough to take it I suppose

[trail smelt]

You madlad

[main crow]

Hey making them eat their own medicine is a based strategy

[trail smelt]

Oh yeah true

[main crow]

Have done so with sand and Ingo lmao

[swift swan]

Me stalling electric-weak aaron

[spring fable]

Any idea if I can do 1.5k?

[trail smelt]

While you were clearing did anybody seem troublesome?

[spring fable]

Glacia was prolly the hardest

[swift swan]

This week we have really good round params, I think you'll be good

[trail smelt]

I know a guy who did Glacia this week who kept dying to blizzard haha so watch oh

Personally I didn’t see it hitting that hard

[swift swan]

My weird af glacia team where I say "SMUN stacks to substitute for sun LFGGGG"

Actually that's just my usual fire team for CS

#1011173305702690876 message full clear

[spring fable]

This was what I used, brought Lucian to debuff but forgot I had the no stat reduc param

[dull yarrow]

Okay yeah

Sidney was deadge before he could even sync

same with Wally

[swift swan]

Phoebe and Glacia team can 2k comfortably. Drake too

[spring fable]

Glacia team almost died

[steel kelp]

Have more faith

You can do 2k

[dull yarrow]

I used SS Erika, SS Lyra and Red and I was like why is my SS Erika doing no damage

[steel kelp]

[dull yarrow]

And then remembered

[swift swan]

I don't think that Sidney team will have any problems. You might want to change the weather vs Wallace tho

[dull yarrow]

Because I didn't buff

[swift swan]

Hmmm does Aaron buff speed at all? You might want Hilbert instead so Silver can have his Inertia set up

[steel kelp]

Aaron buffs attack and crit

[swift swan]

Well, 3/5 Hilbert for faster buffs

[steel kelp]

And def/ sp def

[dull yarrow]

Wallace didn't see it coming but he thought he could set up permanent rain

[spring fable]

Aaron is 1/5, hilbert is 5/5

[dull yarrow]

SS Lyra: nope

also SS Erika: nope

[steel kelp]

Then use hilbert

[spring fable]

Change grid to SF?

It’s currently overheat

[dull yarrow]

I can't wait to use "An ice age is looming" next week

[dark osprey]

change grid to ontype nuke

[dull yarrow]

These were my last two teams

[dark osprey]

use TM just before sync for SEUN

[dull yarrow]

Wally single handedly carrying the entire Fairy type on his back

[swift swan]

Since you bring an extra sun setter, nuke Silver is better

If you're just using Silver for DPS, no need for Blaine there

A bit redundant and takes up space

[swift swan]

Melony?

[spring fable]

Yea I didn’t support sync cause Aaron is not ex

[swift swan]

I forgot I have her now lol

[dull yarrow]

Yes

Love Melony

[swift swan]

It's fine, two Silver syncs should destroy Glacia

[summer flare]

Am I a psycho for on typing 2k Sydney with sycamore as the only damage dealer?

[dull yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmvMggm3w0g

[spring fable]

What should I use for Wallace?

[summer flare]

I pulled it off

[swift swan]

This. Grid for super command

[dull yarrow]

Do you have SS Lyra

[spring fable]

Only reason I used water was cause I dont have good grass

[summer flare]

Sycamore is a divinity

[spring fable]

I do not 😦

[swift swan]

Ss erika, brendan

[dull yarrow]

Do you have SS Erika?

Honestly SS Erika can also do some bonkers damage

[spring fable]

1/5 ss Erika, 2/5 Brendan

[swift swan]

Oh yeah. Sycamore/SS Erika/crit buffer lmao

Step 1: pick perma field effect

Step 2: Grid sycamore for horn leech master healer

Step 3: never die

[dull yarrow]

SS Erika is the best Grass type damage dealer

(If you don't have SS Lyra)

[spring fable]

Usable at 1/5?

[dull yarrow]

Yes

[swift swan]

Yes

Just change the weather turn 1

[spring fable]

Doubt the grid gives her anything

[dull yarrow]

Her 3/5 makes her do more damage, but she's fine at 1/5

[swift swan]

The grid gives her some absolute bonkers nuke stuff

[steel kelp]

False

[swift swan]

Before ss lyra she was the strongest grass nuker iirc?

[steel kelp]

Grid usually gives stuff for more dps or sync nuke

[dull yarrow]

Yes

[river pagoda]

i just want 3/5 brendan 😔 those multipliers hrnggg

[swift swan]

2/5 brendan can nuke decently

[dull yarrow]

Now it's Rosa then Leaf then SS Erika then SS Lyra

[river pagoda]

hes so close to EX too 😔 may'

[swift swan]

What's the team

[river pagoda]

may's alr 3/5 but i need mats for 135-140

[swift swan]

Oh, Leaf went up?

Pog

[river pagoda]

brendan's 150 15/20 but 1/5 😔 cringe gacha luck

[swift swan]

Thanks to the new grid

[dull yarrow]

Melony has such a nice voice

[swift swan]

though she needs all the offensive babysitting she can get

So I don't usually use her to nuke

[dull yarrow]

12.5k when?

[swift swan]

Hard Level 2 when

DeNA: Neo Champion Stadium, take it or leave it

And then this neo champion stadium is piss easy

[dull yarrow]

Might EX SS N for next week's champion stadium tbh

I really liked using him last week

[swift swan]

Had to skip SSN even though I really wanted the jukebox

[dull yarrow]

Is he the best Ice damage dealer?

[river pagoda]

hes the clunkiest thts for sure

stil love him tho

[dull yarrow]

Yes he is

Poor Hala getting powercrept more and more

[spring fable]

If I move sycamore, Who do I replace him with in my Sydney team?

[swift swan]

Yes, but the bar is low tbf

[dull yarrow]

or should I EX Palentines Bea for Ice weak next week

[swift swan]

Calem can tank just fine. I guess an extra damage dealer then

[swift swan]

Well, supports take priority for me

[river pagoda]

is calem's healing even worth it?? in all my instances of using it it barely healed 25-80

[swift swan]

What move level is your SSN? At 1/5 he doesn't nuke much

[river pagoda]

occasionally 100

[dull yarrow]

Palentines Bea is the best Hail unit I have

cause I skipped Holiday Nessa

[swift swan]

In short battles, not really

[dull yarrow]

Hoping she makes a return this year though

[swift swan]

I solo'd Entei with CCalem and the healing came in absolute clutch tho

[dull yarrow]

Do we know if Holiday Nessa will be returning this year

[swift swan]

She should be, yeah

With an incredible rate of

.33%

[dull yarrow]

Based

[steel kelp]

Along with all the other holiday units

[dull yarrow]

I can go to pity again!

[steel kelp]

[dull yarrow]

Love going to pity

[steel kelp]

So either sack or pity

[spring fable]

So this for Wallace’s

[dull yarrow]

Should be fine, but do you have materials for at least 135?

[spring fable]

I do

[dull yarrow]

Get them to at least 135, you'll have a bit of an easier time

Is this for 2k or non 2k?

[dark osprey]

also. sycamore may not be that effective there since u may sync with him. Horn Leech dps is kinda nice though

[spring fable]

Idk

I wanna aim for higher than 850 but idk how high I can go

[dark osprey]

1.5K probably first try

if not then at least 1.2K

[keen jasper]

IDK why I handicapped myself into doing max HP, strength and defense paramters against Sidney

I wish I have a better mega support unit than Sabrina

Yeah, I really want SS Brendan to rerun now

[dark osprey]

can try SSB maybe or if bold enough, Glacia

[keen jasper]

Don't have SS Blue and Glacia, hmmmm

[dark osprey]

no Glacia

or just sync with SS Wally first anyways

it is better for short battles

[spring fable]

Tried drake r1, got rekt

[swift swan]

With this? Drake r1 should be easily flinchlockable

Try acerola instead of bertha

And grid her with aggravation

Olivia should have her nuke grid

I tried with Hilbert/Olivia/Acerola for faster buffs but Hop is the better support for safety measures

Also, how many points and what parameters did you use

[spring fable]

1.5k pts from pins

My hilbert is with silver though

No Sonia

[swift swan]

Presync or postsync

I reckon postsync is doable with Hop there

Though I would always recommend presync

[spring fable]

Ah I was doing presync 💀💀💀

[keen jasper]

Do we have any special rock-type DDs besides Blue?

[spring fable]

Nope still too squishy

[verbal karma]

...was the info button that tells me about all the rounds of a CS week always there?

anyway, I already know Glacia is gotta be Round 4 (gonna use SS Eirika's Sunny Day to counter her hail so that SS Hilda can then decimate her)

[eternal mist]

Lyra^2 is op.

[verbal karma]

the big question is now R1-3

[eternal mist]

Look at all those permanent fields 💓

[summer flare]

This week is the first one where I successfully used silver on type

Also, full on type clear too

I think the order was sydney, glacia, drake, phoebe

[dark osprey]

ah. got the grid expansion finally? is so convenient to use tbh

[summer flare]

Teams were uh...

Yes, got it

Along with EX

[verbal karma]

...okay, looks like this game wants me to use Round 1 on Phoebe

[summer flare]

For Sydney, I went sycamore, Lucian and SS kris

Restriction was that I could only sync with sycamore past SS Kris first sync

So it was a proper on type fairy clear

It took me like 3 enemy syncs and some sanity to figure a grid out for SS Kris

But on type sycamore on Sydney is achievable

[verbal karma]

hmm...still need to use Bug, Ground and Ghost somewhere...

[summer flare]

For glacia, it was Hilbert, silver and SS erika

Used as many parameters as I could to reduce power and health, just so silver could oneshot the entire board

[verbal karma]

alright, Aaron/Ash/Nita should be good enough for R1 Phoebe, right?

[summer flare]

Ash should elbow drop phoebe

[verbal karma]

figured as much

was just wondering if Aaron and Nita should be used now or later

[summer flare]

Not ideal to have all 3 together

But I guess you can have that

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if I were to use both of them now, I would then ONLY have to worry about Ghost type coverage

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if its for the type medals, might as well put in other inconsequential pairs

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since the only type coverages I have missing are Ground, Bug and Ghost

I...just don't know if I'd end up using Aaron or Nita over someone else in the other teams

I know the Glacia team will at the very least have SS Erika and SS Hilda

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ah for only 3 u can go ahead with whatever teams are convenient

for phoebe, i think its better to bring a paralysis unit

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hmm...the big question now also is: if R1 is gonna be Phoebe and R4 is gonna be Glacia...

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what rounds are people doing?

R1 Drake?

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...which of the two have the lower Sp. Def? Sidney or Drake?

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I am doing R1 Phoebe

game is suggesting me to use paralyze on her, so might as well pick the round that makes paralyze more likely

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what are their parameters? o-o

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R1: additional effects are more likely to occur
R2: Stat-lowering effects are buffed
R3: use Spec. Attack on opponents with low Spec. Defense
R4: permanent field effects

those are the params

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R4 is Permanent Field Effects? Hnngh

i guess i'll check each one after Entei HUM

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R4 is 100% gonna be Glacia

sure, Glacia gets permanent hail, but that means nothing to her if I can just replace it with permanent sun

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hum

[keen jasper]

So SS Wally can deal in the range of 70k against Sidney at max HP, strength and defense parameters in round 2

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what's a good Sp ATK remover for Sidney?

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Ghetsis

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Hum

unless they SP.ATK a lot or something

There we go. this should work yeah?

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Why ssjasmine

[undone ether]

unless glacia really needs the +3 SPDef

[keen jasper]

Your teams look overkill TBH

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iunno

i could change SC Jasmine for SS May instead for the SP Def Bulk

and Regen

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Use a status mover instead

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for the VS E3

like what

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so...R3 Sidney or R3 Drake?

I am still trying to decide

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Volkner?

[keen jasper]

Depends

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on what?

[undone ether]

Then this should be good

R4 is def glacia

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yeah, R4 is 100% Glacia