#Champion Stadium

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mellow linden
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Would lose Sleep if no Melony, but BP Morty is also good

violet timber
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or is that Hoenn

mellow linden
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Misty + Psyduck is also a good option

keen jasper
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BP Morty buffs both Def. and Sp. Def.

mellow linden
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There’s a ton of options to choose from

void wyvern
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I’m starting to question the MM parameters

violet timber
void wyvern
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Maybe those are the problem.

void wyvern
violet timber
violet timber
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yep I don’t use I See You MPR

keen jasper
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Granted you'd be losing out on the crit buff from Melony and also the screens, but at least May can complete her own buffs

violet timber
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replying to the wrong thing again SophoKEK

keen jasper
void wyvern
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Gio buffs crit himself. Melony is just very bulky for a special support

violet timber
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question is, is an Aggravation grid better than TM MPR grid for Morty

void wyvern
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Yes

violet timber
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ah

keen jasper
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Aggravation and TM MP refresh

void wyvern
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Oop. Lucian can hit 99k on first sync. Fun

boreal rose
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MistyDuck sucks

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Very support sucks agaisnt flint HildaCry

violet timber
void wyvern
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If this is master mode can we see what points you are taking?

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I’m 99% sure that’s where our problem lies

boreal rose
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2k

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Well. 10k total

violet timber
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I used BP morty tho

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in the post sync params

boreal rose
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I dont have him from what i remembe

void wyvern
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But what exactly have you selected?

violet timber
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Wait

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Are you doing R1 flint

mellow linden
full mesa
violet timber
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ye true but they seem like they are struggling

boreal rose
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Umm

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R3

violet timber
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oh

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nvm then

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what are your parameters

boreal rose
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Basically pre sync

violet timber
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do post sync

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pre sync is when you know you have a tactical nuke that can deploy in <12 turns

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I think

boreal rose
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I never know

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And i do it

full mesa
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How did you do him 2 weeks ago?

boreal rose
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Hard Mode

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2 weeks ago i did hard mode i think

rain imp
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Damn Bertha is tough

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Any tips for a team?

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Because I am very rusty turn denying with ss lyra

full mesa
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Try again and again till you achieve it. You're using the Queen of flinch. Other than that, Hop/Skyla/Steel type striker is a good option.

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Post sync.

frosty axle
full mesa
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Yeah, I watched that. I couldn't for the life of me figure how to deny her turns, so I just used KGrimsley to drop her defence.

boreal rose
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@violet timber i cant

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Support go 💀

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Literally

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They die in SECONDS

frosty axle
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at least steel was slightly easier than the last time

violet timber
boreal rose
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What dos he hav

frosty axle
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Mismagius

boreal rose
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Oh

full mesa
# frosty axle at least steel was slightly easier than the last time

The whole challenge is. Considering we had time to prepare and level up or units. Now I'm afraid of Water weak flint. Too many damn passives that up his stats and lower our spa. Need to find a physical water unit to pre sync him.
Ash 1/5 non ex will take care of Aaron elec weak.

boreal rose
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I have him 😐

mellow linden
full mesa
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Either her or my 3/5 SSGrimsley. Alongside Sonia and May/Tech Gyarados.

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But LRosa also seems interesting if I can lower his def.

mellow linden
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I see no reason why you wouldn’t be able to

boreal rose
violet timber
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what move level

boreal rose
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1/5

hidden ore
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I want to see a run with one of these

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Personally will use Gloria, but Silver looks he’ll be good for this stage 🤔

void wyvern
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Crasher wake

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Is my favourite water dps

full mesa
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I have Crasher build too. But he needs interference for his sync to deal big number.

void wyvern
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But considering we’re going to get Kris boost next week. We should all be fine.

full mesa
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I don't plan on building her yet.

void wyvern
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Does molyane actually do a decent job against Bertha?

lunar dawn
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Do I not do Bertha round 2

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(wanted DR on her but also using hop sooo
doing like 2k per turn 💀)

mellow linden
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You can if you want, without Sync accel or truly absurd amounts of damage you're doing a post-Sync clear anyways

lunar dawn
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if I get crits does it ignore the power down

mellow linden
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Crits ignore physical damage reduction field, yes

lunar dawn
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Gotcha
Ty

main crow
void wyvern
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Steel weak Bertha will always help me plug the idea of using striker Jasmine because she can go post sync

mellow linden
void wyvern
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They made glacia a good support

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From a completely unusable support

mellow linden
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Didn't particularly fix the majority of her issues, though

void wyvern
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Yeah. There was definitely some faults.

mellow linden
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Fixed enough of them to give her the nudge she needed, but it's not Kris or Karen level

void wyvern
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Her biggest being her sync is garbage.

zealous karma
main crow
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cough 2/5 Karen still

mellow linden
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If she'd gotten her buffs any later than she did you know it would've been 4/5 and 5/5 tiles instead

void wyvern
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I hope lance and Steven get actual buffs instead of “summon more!”

subtle forge
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They’ll get grid expansions

main crow
subtle forge
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Whether they’ll be 5/5 expansions or like Pokémon Masters Day grid expansions

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Is a mystery

void wyvern
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We’ve always gotten a power boost every masters day

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Cuz we have the grid expansion for 4 and 5 but we have the power boost for the 3/5 tiles

digital mauve
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Any tips for a R2 Flint? Using Alakazam, Musharna and Goirgeist. Getting destroyed

austere quest
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Full Grid for Musharna and Zam?

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Leading Gourgeist?

simple storm
austere quest
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I am asking them a question

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Although I guess I am quite late to it

simple storm
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oh

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reading hard

digital mauve
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Even with SSA Cynthia in that lead spot. I just get Nuked out by flamethrower

mellow linden
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What parameters are you using?

digital mauve
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Tried using pre and post sync

mellow linden
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Bianca + Giovanni + a Support that boosts Sp. Atk. (and ideally Sp. Def. as well) should work fine

digital mauve
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My Giovanni isn’t EXed 😦

mellow linden
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Shouldn't matter

digital mauve
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I can try SC Jasmine Bianca and Gio

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Suggestion on parameters for thst team?

mellow linden
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pre-Sync if you're using Giovanni, he can't tank a Flint Sync

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Oh wait, hold on

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You're doing round 2

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May want to try Sabrina (if she's not EXd just Sync with Giovanni) instead then

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Because without something to refresh the Reflect you can't quadqueue

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Might not matter though, so you can try SC Jasmine 1st and see if that works

rigid flint
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Mmmm steel weak is being a bit of a problem

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OG Red, Wikstrom and Skyla should work right?

mellow linden
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Maybe? Idk

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I ran Hop + Skyla + Steven, personally

rigid flint
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I'd normally use Solgaleo but it's ground weak

mellow linden
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You have K. Grimsley?

rigid flint
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And bertha has head start 1 so quad queueing can't save me there

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Sadly not

mellow linden
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That’s fine, just wanted to check

rigid flint
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I'd really like him tho, he seems extremely fun to use

mellow linden
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Hop + Wikstrom + Skyla could probably work

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Idk how Red + Snorlax would work out when it comes to replacing Hop

rigid flint
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The problem would be gauge and stuff

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Well wikstrom provides his own atk buffs when in blade form

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And red lowers sync countdown and such so head start 1 doesn't become as big as a problem

mellow linden
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Shouldn’t have any gauge problems with Hop + Skyla as Supports, just use Metal Claw on Hop unless he has Freevenge active

rigid flint
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Right ok

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I'll try that first

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Mmm nope

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Wikstrom dies too easily even in shield form

mellow linden
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Worst case scenario you could potentially off-type depending on roster

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Assuming this is Master Mode

rigid flint
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Yep

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Ughhhhhh Bertha why are you like this

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Oh well I'll try later

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I'm getting too worked up over this

void wyvern
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Can we see your supports? @rigid flint

rigid flint
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Uhh sure

void wyvern
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Is this master mode 2k and which round?

rigid flint
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R4 which is a bit of a mistake

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And yes it's 2k

void wyvern
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Actually r4 is a double edged sword

rigid flint
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I was gonna do her round 2 but I got too frustrated lmao

void wyvern
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It’s okay. Let’s see your supports and then see your dps

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I’m 100% confident we can find a solution!

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our likely solution will probably be post sync

rigid flint
void wyvern
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Okay we have options

mellow linden
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Is Sonia available?

void wyvern
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Striker jasmine might be our fix

rigid flint
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At 2/5?

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Mmm idk

void wyvern
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Gets both tough cookies at 2

mellow linden
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Haven’t used striker Jasmine before, but yeah, probably could work

void wyvern
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She has the benefit of being able to go post sync

rigid flint
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Right

void wyvern
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We need jasmine plus support ex

rigid flint
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So

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Jasmine, hop and skyla?

void wyvern
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Do you have Lucian or champ iris?

rigid flint
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Sadly not

void wyvern
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Alright

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Jasmine hop skyla will work

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Want a jasmine grid?

rigid flint
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I don't have many atk debuffers

void wyvern
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Here’s the most important bit

rigid flint
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I got one up

void wyvern
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Don’t run pre sync

rigid flint
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Right ok

void wyvern
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Thanks to our wall potential we can go post sync and Bertha having a bit extra hp won’t kill us

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Also put cs1 on jasmine

rigid flint
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Alrighty

void wyvern
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Boom

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You will need to fish for hop’s mpr refresh

rigid flint
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And should I have hop tank?

void wyvern
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Yes

rigid flint
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Wait do I sync with skyla or jasmine first?

void wyvern
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Skyla should give more damage

rigid flint
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Alrighty

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Oh epic it worked

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Thx a bunch

rain imp
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Damn after Bertha nothing really that hard

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Had to just remember how to flinchlock

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Ss lyra on crack

void wyvern
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Steel weak Bertha let’s me spread jasmine supremacy and that’s good.

trail smelt
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Toughest for me this week was Cynthia

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Drake sucks

void wyvern
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Drake is unironically held back by the fact he is not a mega.

mellow linden
trail smelt
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Yep

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So many of my dragons need offensive buffs lol

zealous karma
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No Cyrus

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?

void wyvern
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I forgot Cyrus existed in the moment

toxic cobalt
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Cyrus and SS Serena fully self-buff

trail smelt
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Yeah but I didn’t wanna use them at first

void wyvern
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No pain no gain.

patent torrent
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Bertha is rough

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Been trying to use misty/ssblue/dojo Gloria but earthquake just one shots gloria

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I'm not sure who else to try cause it's mission 4

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Ssgio / pal Marnie / hop? Or a different ex support

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I'm also kinda mad cause I got a new phone and the game runs a lot worse than it did before so idk if it's just performance issues getting in the way of me doing well

void wyvern
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@patent torrent show your supports

toxic cobalt
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SS Gio is what move level?

void wyvern
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Even at 1/5 he should max nuke just fine, right?

toxic cobalt
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Should, but if it's 3/5 no need to deal with Hop being finicky

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Can just run Skyla EX

patent torrent
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I've got him 4/5

void wyvern
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Critical crit is such a fun name

patent torrent
void wyvern
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Run this grid and use ex Skyla. Make sure to save your SEUN for the max move and use it immediately after Skyla syncs

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Bertha will go up in flames

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don’t ask why I have it so readily on hand

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Also pal Marnie can work on the team too for steel zone

patent torrent
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What is seun

void wyvern
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Super effective up next

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It comes from his TM

patent torrent
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Ah ok

void wyvern
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So don’t use iron tail until after your max move

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So it’ll go mega kick tm mega kick sync with Skyla, max steel spike

patent torrent
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Ok cool I'll give that a try

void wyvern
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Then spam iron tail

toxic cobalt
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Godspeed

void wyvern
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Don’t forget to setup steel zone before you use your max move!

patent torrent
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Which 2000 point set should I do for that

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Would it be the sync buff one

toxic cobalt
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Try strength presync

patent torrent
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Ok

void wyvern
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If that doesn’t work. We’ll flip to an hp strength mix

toxic cobalt
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The variability of Bertha's sync really starting to piss me off

void wyvern
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Explain?

toxic cobalt
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I feel like the damage roll has a significant spread. Sometimes I live, sometimes I die LanceShrug

void wyvern
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Bertha is definitely weird for a lot of us. I wonder if power on hit affects sync.

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But Bertha encourages a more patient dps for those who lack a good steel striker so having to do post sync we when we are all used to pre sync and the idea of taking…hp is definitely interesting.

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But I love me a creative and very convoluted solution

steel kelp
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Would it be better to just do gio for flint even during r4 or just use a physical striker

patent torrent
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I have Steven for flint

steel kelp
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And I don’t

patent torrent
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Oh thought you were talking about me sorry striderno

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Lost cause rock slide made everyone flinch LMAO

void wyvern
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Hehe, happens.

patent torrent
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It worked, tyvm

void wyvern
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You’re welcome! Happy to help.

rigid flint
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@void wyvern Very random but I redid the whole of CSMM again cos I wanted to see if my 1/5 ss gio could clear bertha

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And on the 5th try it worked :D

void wyvern
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SS gio at 1/5 is still amazing.

rigid flint
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The team was ss gio, ss blue and hop

rigid flint
void wyvern
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Great job at completing it twice!

rigid flint
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Def will be investing in him once I get more striker candies

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Ty!

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I was kinda bored but I still don't know why I decided to put myself through the pain

void wyvern
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Because it’s fun.

rigid flint
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At least next week I can obliterate them all and get my revenge

void wyvern
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Csmm is a very fun puzzle.

void wyvern
rigid flint
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True, but Sinnoh pains me on another level I've never experienced before

rigid flint
rain imp
rigid flint
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Yep

rain imp
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He’s gonna eat brain sync 8 + paralysis sygerny 8 + electric terrain

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And an 800 BP move to follow after that

void wyvern
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As he should

rain imp
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Can’t wait

rigid flint
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As he deserves for torturing N

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That is what he gets from having sentry entry x2

rain imp
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I think he would still die to wise entry x2

keen jasper
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If SS Wally can destroy Wise Entry x2 fairy-weak Cynthia, then so can Ash against Wise Entry x2 electric-weak Aaron

rain imp
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Ss wally does so much more damage than ash

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Ss wally my #1 goat

keen jasper
rain imp
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Was mostly just messing around

keen jasper
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K then

rain imp
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I didn’t really make that obvious

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Mb

rigid flint
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Wait does aaron have sentry entry or wise entry next week

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Now I'm confused

rigid flint
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lakgflkjhsah;skv;a

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Why

keen jasper
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Because Red

rigid flint
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Why did he change it

keen jasper
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?

rigid flint
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Did aaron not use to have sentry entry?

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I remember he had sentry entry last time he was electric weak

keen jasper
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I forget

rigid flint
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Yeah he does

keen jasper
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Oh it's Sentry, I thought it was Wise

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Oh well, it's time to turn Aaron into Ashes

rigid flint
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Lmaoo

void wyvern
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Aaron’s main goal was to counter n and Zekrom.

full mesa
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Now Ash will show him.

rigid flint
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The true power of friendship shall prevail

keen jasper
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More like the true power of plot armor

old orchid
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Me with EX Hau TabithaHehe

zealous karma
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Based

full mesa
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I could go for SSBlue/Clemont/Volkner combo but too slow.

trail smelt
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Got Elesa past Aaron once

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That was NOT fun. RNG Hell beyond Villa eesh

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Luckily Ash is here to zap him into a coma

void wyvern
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Not me using striker SS Elesa

white gale
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yikes, Bertha is proving to be really hard. I can't seem to crack her with Wikstrom/Sonia/PMarnie. I can't seem to pre-sync her, and after she dies, the sides' AOE kill me

dark osprey
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because of head start

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could try and use king shield to survive the sync

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try taking out one side first I guess

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denial on left and right seem to be the best way to go

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or could go denial on left and focus on centre. then hope for flinch on right

onyx ice
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Against Bertha i used SS Giovanni on physical up round (but probably was unnecessary)

keen jasper
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I'm gonna try Kris's expanded grid next week on water-weak Flint

keen jasper
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My teams for next week

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Oh wait, I have Leaf on 2 teams

dark osprey
toxic cobalt
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That is a good clear

boreal rose
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I dislike this CS

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Mostly Flint

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I DID IT

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Bertha may be easier

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Zamazenta said "get flinched for me"

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CourtneyBruh game quit

boreal rose
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Who to use for Cynthia?

keen jasper
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I used Zinnia because I can and she has weather boost

boreal rose
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I have problems withbeating cynthia

keen jasper
boreal rose
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Yes

keen jasper
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I'd say crit buffer, RayZinnia and Winona

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Or use whatever you like

boreal rose
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Idk eho to use HildaCry

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These are who i remember using

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The x-d ones ofc

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Its gonna be pretty slow tho i think

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Oh wait. winona

boreal rose
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Also Zinnia dies quickly

old orchid
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Do you replace sand with other weather?

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Oh so you did

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Hmm Kiawe Winona / Blaine Zinnia should work

boreal rose
boreal rose
mellow linden
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Is she getting her necessary offensive buffs (Attack for Outrage, Sp. Atk. for Draco Meteor/Sync) from another source?

boreal rose
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Sabrina

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I use her TM once cuz of no guage

mellow linden
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If you're using Sabrina's Trainer Move for the Sp. Atk. buffs (you'll wanna use it twice on Zinnia) and not using Outrage then you should be ok not using Zinnia's Trainer Move

boreal rose
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I use draco meteor

mellow linden
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You'll probably want to grid Winona for Air Slash Aggravation and use Air Slash instead of Hurricane. In addition to being more gauge-friendly you'll also have the flinch chance

boreal rose
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Doesnt air slash flinch?

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Ohhh

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Yeah i was using it at the end

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Also is this grid ok?

mellow linden
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I'm assuming your Zinnia has Dauntless, so try this instead

boreal rose
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And for Winona

mellow linden
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Can swap some of the Draco Meteor tiles for the MGR instead if need be

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Winona's looks fine, the important tile is Air Slash Aggravation

boreal rose
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I hate my device

mellow linden
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Does your Zinnia not have Dauntless?

keen jasper
boreal rose
boreal rose
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The sync did it WeezingLFG

keen jasper
boreal rose
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Yes

mellow linden
# boreal rose Wdym

Your Zinnia had a weird number of Sp. Atk. buffs, but I guess that doesn't matter now

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If it works it works

keen jasper
mellow linden
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That was what I wanted to make sure on, yeah

molten nimbus
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somehow i struggled a lot less with cynthia than flint lol

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is flint the problem of this CS?

mellow linden
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Flint's gimmick is just stupid high damage

molten nimbus
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oh

boreal rose
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I would say so. Yes. He is

keen jasper
mellow linden
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Cynthia's gimmick is Sandstorm

molten nimbus
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no wonder kek

boreal rose
molten nimbus
mellow linden
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Yeah, because perma field effects

boreal rose
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Yeah

keen jasper
boreal rose
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Nope

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She used i think x attack all but im not sure

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Well when i flinched her she used x speed all and then x attack all i think

dark osprey
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just curious to know, why is Flint difficult this week?

keen jasper
keen jasper
dark osprey
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raised stats on the fire blast i guess

keen jasper
dark osprey
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i remember him starting off with +2 sp atk or something only. maybe was lucky with the runs

keen jasper
dark osprey
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oh. and burn too i guess

keen jasper
molten nimbus
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🫠

keen jasper
molten nimbus
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doesnt work as well from my experience

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still melts my tanks

mellow linden
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All I know about Psychic weak Flint is that week 1 I tried 1 attempt at him on a special moves damage boost round and saw a 1k+ Fire Blast

molten nimbus
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i managed to beat it somehow tho

mellow linden
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Needless to say, I changed who I went after round 1

boreal rose
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Ngl but now that 10k is done i can do hard mode in 2v3 and say i did 10k 2v3 TabithaHehe /j

molten nimbus
mellow linden
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That sounds like bad parameters

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Wait

molten nimbus
mellow linden
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Well if it works it works

toxic cobalt
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Just using Giovanni would be better

molten nimbus
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if i have

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chomp when dealing 1k+ EQ on a physical attack favoured buff 🫠 under sand with max atk/speed

mellow linden
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Sounds like bad parameters

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What were you using?

molten nimbus
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was trying to use yellow doggo/Excadrill/Chomp

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failed tho
hence the groudon

mellow linden
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I mean for parameters

molten nimbus
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oh

keen jasper
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Do you have Cyrus and/or Zinnia's EX?

molten nimbus
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i do

keen jasper
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And expanded grid?

molten nimbus
mellow linden
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Well whatever they were it sounds like they were...not very good, to say the least

molten nimbus
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it should be around 1.5k offensive WulfricKEKW

keen jasper
molten nimbus
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i dont think i ever got a hp or defense parameter

molten nimbus
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cynthia was a whole lot easier with palkia

keen jasper
mellow linden
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Because with pinned parameters you should be seeing a lot more damage dealt and a lot less damage taken

molten nimbus
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yeah it's weird how i was dealing that little

mellow linden
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Though I guess the low damage could be explained by lack of Support EX

molten nimbus
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likely

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likely

toxic cobalt
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Fire blast is no joke at any parameters

mellow linden
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Oh wait, if the team was Cynthia + Sonia + Ingo then there's no Sp. Def. buffs on the team

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That explains it

keen jasper
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Fire Blast means instant death unless you have enough debuffs and buffs

molten nimbus
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i dont exactly know who cause i spent 2 hours trying to beat it

mellow linden
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Regardless, Psychic weak Flint is a monster in the damage department

molten nimbus
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yeah iwi

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he's a monster even before psychic weak

steel kelp
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I’m so tired of fire blast do I just reset for good rng

toxic cobalt
mellow linden
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Pretty much, yeah

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Turn 1 Fire Blast was instant reset when I was doing my clear

molten nimbus
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"condition shield plsss"

steel kelp
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Welp I got the good rng and was able to quadqueue and died first psync

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Not sure what to do if I’m dying first psync

mellow linden
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What's the team and parameters you're using?

steel kelp
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Post psync

mellow linden
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And the team?

steel kelp
toxic cobalt
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If you can quadqueue you can presync

mellow linden
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  1. Try Bianca instead of SC Jasmine, if need be you can use a different Sp. Atk. Support instead of BP Janine.

  2. Giovanni will die to Sync regardless, so try pre-Sync parameters for lower enemy bulk

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If you don't have Bianca you can still use the same team as you're using now, I guess

steel kelp
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Ig I’ll go with bianca and SS elesa

mellow linden
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SS Elesa will also eliminate the need for quadqueue, so if she can survive long enough she'd be great

echo gale
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hi, question. how hard is 3k compared to 2k? ik it comes down to what parameters i choose but im thinking of doing one to see how far i can go

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probably like all strength hp and def nodes or whatever but idk if its gonna work out

toxic cobalt
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I DIDDDD IT

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I BEAT BERTHA

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cries

keen jasper
toxic cobalt
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Wilkstrom

keen jasper
#

Budget run?

toxic cobalt
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Yeah pretty budget

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i tried so many differnt teams

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Don't budget Bertha

keen jasper
toxic cobalt
keen jasper
#

Yeah ok

toxic cobalt
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That is a very small percentage CyrusSweat

keen jasper
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Are there any physical dragon DDs besides Zinnia and Iris?

toxic cobalt
echo gale
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bet

mellow linden
keen jasper
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Hmmmmm

toxic cobalt
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Wow my Giovanni ghost grid is garbage

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I think I made it when i first created it and never edited it

mellow linden
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F2P Ghost options are big oof against Lucian

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Wise Entry

toxic cobalt
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Yeah, I'm testing if Giovanni can punch through. It's close

mellow linden
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Based on what he’s got I think he was designed for Fall Morty/Fall Acerola

keen jasper
#

Only sides right?

mellow linden
#

Nope, all 3

toxic cobalt
#

Only sides is Bertha

keen jasper
mellow linden
#

Bertha is the one where only sides have Wise Entry (and amusingly enough it’s Wise Entry x3 for them)

keen jasper
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Even with half HP, all 3 of my units survived

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To my surprise

mellow linden
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You can definitely clear with other stuff, but he’s got lower resistance to Burn and Confusion, which just so happen to be the gimmicks of Fall Morty and Fall Acerola respectively

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Plus those 2 also deal physical damage

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It’s actually kinda fun looking at what they have and trying to figure out what Sync Pairs they were designed for

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Like how Fire weak Aaron is designed for Anniversary N

keen jasper
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I just wished SS Red and Bluecanine has multipliers on their moves

mellow linden
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Blue has Superduper Effective, doesn’t he?

winter glen
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and red still hits hard + sync nuke

keen jasper
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Which is stronger, increased lowered stats or increased damage against specific damage type?

mellow linden
#

Wdym

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Round parameter?

keen jasper
simple storm
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I used red+silver+ ss morty

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Very easy

mellow linden
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I think probably Round 1/Round 4 parameters, but idk for sure

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Round 1/Round 4 parameters also usually have more risk depending on who you’re facing

keen jasper
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I wanna see Bluecanine's Hyper Beam damage and let's see if I can hit 60k+ with it

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Though I wished I have WW3 on him

mellow linden
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Anyway, speaking of who the Sinnoh CS stages are designed for, are there any weather focused Dragon damage-dealers besides Clair and Zinnia? Because it legitimately feels like Dragon weak Cynthia is designed for freebies

winter glen
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dragon pulse raihan and anni raihan

mellow linden
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Ah, I guess maybe A. Raihan then

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Works out well though, I got to use Clair to decimate the stage this week

keen jasper
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This is my first time using EX Zinnia

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And she's quite effective

rain imp
mellow linden
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Lucas isn’t weather based though

rain imp
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It’s still part of the “field effect” thing

mellow linden
#

Dragon weak Cynthia’s gimmick is that you need to set weather other than Sandstorm

rain imp
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Oh I forgot about that

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I brought ss kris on accident

keen jasper
#

I was right, it was 60k+

sinful brook
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Steel Zone + EX 1/5 Raihan seem good enough to clear Bertha this week, even through the sides having the SpDef buff?

long thicket
#

So Hilbert and Genesect can change types?

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I have Victini and Reshiram for AoE fire damage.

keen jasper
long thicket
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And EXes for Red and Silver.

echo gale
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not quite, Techno Blast can change types, but not sync

long thicket
#

Alright then.

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Haven't really tested them yet.

toxic cobalt
long thicket
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6100 heal for Aaron. Because of course.

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Thankfully, Victini and everyone else survived the sync, so I won.

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1500 points, btw.

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I felt like it was more worthwhile to sync with a no-grid Blaine and keep using Hilda's move.

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Using an EX support would've been smarter, but oh well.
Also, that "everyone keeps one HP instead of being KO" is evil...

keen jasper
echo gale
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oh boy i forgot about head start bertha

toxic cobalt
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Never forget head start Bertha

mellow linden
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Maybe it’s just because Steven is a really good pick for Bertha or something, but I found Bertha very manageable

toxic cobalt
#

Bertha: not even once

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Why be very bulky and have head start

void wyvern
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Bertha is manageable if you can either mega nuke or have a bulky striker

quaint solar
#

Anyone knows the rotation for the rounds for this week championship stadium

storm moss
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Anyone able to help with teams?

mellow linden
storm moss
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It's for MM, I've done psychic

mellow linden
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SSR Cynthia + SS Korrina + a tank for Lucian is an obvious team

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Hilbert + SS Red + SS Morty for Aaron would be good

storm moss
#

Sycamore?

mellow linden
#

Sycamore could work, I guess

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IMO BP Morty or Misty + Psyduck would be a little better, but if you’re not gonna use Sycamore elsewhere it’s probably fine

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Anyways, SS Giovanni + Skyla + a crit buffer could probably work for Bertha, and SS Serena + Lucas + SS Kris would obliterate Cynthia

long thicket
#

Darnit, Bertha.

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It went so well.

mellow linden
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Striker get crit at the last second?

long thicket
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AoE move, I think.

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Support and Striker KO together.

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Did Steven (EX), Wikstrom and Hop.

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I won at the second try.

toxic cobalt
#

Bertha and Cynthia have an obnoxious propensity for aoe

mellow linden
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Wikstrom and Steven is overkill, tbh

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EX Skyla + EX Steven + Hop worked for me

quaint solar
mellow linden
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Can’t say I recommend it, no

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I tried that back on the 1st week of this Sinnoh CS run and saw a 1k+ damage Fire Blast obliterate my Sabrina

quaint solar
mellow linden
#

I have my Hall of Fame screenshots as per usual

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Aurochs and Eevee have f2p clears if you want to take a look at those

steel kelp
#

Have fun with flint nuking you HildaCry

quaint solar
mellow linden
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You’ll get more value from doing Aaron, but it really doesn’t matter much

quaint solar
mellow linden
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Congrats

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SS Steven is indeed a win button

fringe valve
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Yeah, you know a unit is busted when they can clear the mid before you even sync

austere quest
#

I love SS Steven so much

boreal rose
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2nd sygna suit?

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Oohh. I understand niw

long thicket
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And I didn't post in the right place...

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It's weird how smooth this week is going at 1500 points.

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Did Flint first try.

boreal rose
long thicket
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Giovanni, Bianca, Sabrina.
I know this sounds like an ideal team, but still, Mewtwo fainted from the sync despite the full health and that same team gave me struggle for 2k the previous time the fight was available.

boreal rose
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Oh HildaCry

long thicket
#

Anything wrong?

zealous karma
boreal rose
long thicket
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Holy, Cynthia and Giratina did 19k damage with spectral zone + EX Sonia sync.

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Lucian got hit very hard.

boreal rose
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Oh yeah. Champ Cynthia doesnt use Legend. Im stupid 💀

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Yes i did understand it as enemy cynthia did that

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Wait

long thicket
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I know I see a lot of pictures showing your team doing damage in the five digits, but it's not something I can do regularly.

boreal rose
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It was correctly written PrycePain

tardy elk
#

Zinnia is actually pretty good this week

boreal rose
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Ik

tardy elk
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Blew cynthia apart w/ her and may

boreal rose
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She is able to beat Cynthia with 2nd sync without support sync before Cynthia syncs once

tardy elk
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may didn't even need to do much

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just set up rain and give a little bit of dps

boreal rose
#

Winona SidneyYippee

tardy elk
#

fair

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she works too

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didn't even need the second sync to kill garchomp

quaint solar
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Whats a team that can win this man. Tired of reseting need assistance 😪

tardy elk
#

You have ex zinnia or cyrus?

tardy elk
boreal rose
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I used Sabrina

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DHA → Reflect and after that i healed or used stuff that just would make the sync counter go smaller

quaint solar
tardy elk
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sabrina

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Cyrus solid great dragon type dmg after his grid expansion

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you don't have zinnia ex?

summer flare
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Does Lucian have wise entry X2?

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I couldn't touch it with allister

tardy elk
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Lucian is just bulky I think

tardy elk
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I just bust through him w/ a ex morty

summer flare
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My Morty isn't EX, but I feel I'll need the extra damage from it

zealous karma
#

Could use a screech mine

void wyvern
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You can run morty and an additional striker to help.

summer flare
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I managed to beat it with just morty

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Ended up postponing Cynthia EX, which I was going to accomplish this week

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To get Morty to EX

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Then went misty, Morty and Hop

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Misty was there mainly because she's the only evasion buffer I have

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And his only sync multiplier is the evasion one

void wyvern
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That’s definitely an expensive solution.

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I’m happy it worked out for you!

summer flare
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My plan was to end up with a pair that I can use for 2k csmm

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So since my ghost pairs were heavily underserved, I felt Morty would be a decent enough investment for sync nuking

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Aaron sounds impossible to on type with the pairs I have

mellow linden
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No Helena?

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Obviously not her for Lucian, but for other Ghost weak stages she should work just fine

summer flare
#

I have her

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My issue now is aaron

mellow linden
#

Bit of a late response to your comments about Ghost types, sorry

summer flare
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He takes absolutely no damage from silver

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Which is one of the reasons why I hate using the pair

mellow linden
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Regular Hilda works well for Aaron

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That’s what I did week 1 of this Sinnoh run

summer flare
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Does she need EX as well? I could do it during an emergency

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But I don't have tickets anymore, so it would be 20 raw power ups

mellow linden
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It might depend on her teammates

summer flare
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I still have hilbert

mellow linden
#

SS Hilbert?

summer flare
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No

mellow linden
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Just checking

summer flare
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3/5 regular Hilbert, to buff her

mellow linden
#

Yeah, definitely works. Though if Hilda’s not EX you might need someone with high regular move damage to handle the sides

void wyvern
#

If you’re crazy you can use flint.

summer flare
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I love infernape and all

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But how can flint out damage silver?

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Silver did nothing

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All I could do was to reach the first aid 2 checkpoint and notice I was even more screwed than I thought I was

mellow linden
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Does Silver have his Power Boost? It’s fine if he doesn’t, just want to check

summer flare
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Nope

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It's stock silver

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No boost no EX

mellow linden
#

Ah

summer flare
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Fire options I have are uh...

void wyvern
#

Silver’s biggest issue is that he lacks self sufficiency.

summer flare
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3/5 serena, Hilda, blue and arcanine, then silver

mellow linden
#

I’m assuming no SS Morty

summer flare
#

No

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Oh, and gladion

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If that matters

mellow linden
#

I guess Blue + Arcanine/Blaine/someone to handle buffs/tanking could work

summer flare
#

My gladion is 4/5 superpowered and EX

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I think the only high profile buffer I have left is like

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SS kris

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Or giovanni

mellow linden
#

That’s unfortunate

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Could just do Dawn and have Blue buff his own stats, I guess

summer flare
#

Dawn?

mellow linden
#

Yeah, she’s a good physical tank

summer flare
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If I don't need someone to set sun

mellow linden
#

Why do you think I said Blaine + your main Support as the teammates?

summer flare
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Because I'm either doing this or offtyping

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And I wanna avoid offtyping

mellow linden
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It’d be super janky, but Blue buffing himself with Dawn to tank and Blaine for Sun is at least worth a shot

summer flare
#

Dawn can't tank

mellow linden
#

Oh, Bug weakness

summer flare
#

She's weak to bug

mellow linden
#

Right

summer flare
#

Got oneshot

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I can try SS blue

mellow linden
#

Would need to pick a different damage-dealer

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Can’t do double Blue just yet

void wyvern
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SS blue, Serena, and a sing bot may be a good idea

mellow linden
#

Is there a particular reason you don’t want to off-type?

void wyvern
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Run Adrenaline SS blue, buff Serena and just slowly poke at aaron

mellow linden
#

What if Serena + SS Blue + Hilda and use Serena for Sleep bot

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Because Go Viral

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Might lead to a slightly faster clear, idk

void wyvern
#

If it doesn’t. We can do Serena and a sleep bot

summer flare
#

I dislike offtyping in general

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Ever since I got ash and sst red

void wyvern
#

Ash is effective

summer flare
#

It feels unchallenging

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So, if I EX hilda

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I can pull this off

void wyvern
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No, you don’t need to ex anyone

mellow linden
#

If you EX Hilda there’d be no reason to try the janky strats

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Because at that point it’s just Hilda + Hilbert + Blaine

summer flare
#

I tried Hilda, Hilbert and SS blue

#

Lacked damage

void wyvern
#

Because you’re missing Sun

summer flare
#

I likely should go for SS Erika instead of blaine

mellow linden
#

She probably would be better than Blaine, yeah

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But anyways, the idea of the SS Blue/Serena/Hilda team would be Serena Sleep-locking while Hilda does just enough damage to not have the fight be a slog

summer flare
#

I could try it

trail smelt
trail smelt
molten nimbus
#

Lol we had opposite teams for sure

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I struggled the least against them

lunar dawn
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what parameters are good for this team, I'm trying pre sync nuke but I'm dying to sides (and also not killing before sync)

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i can swap leaf for skyla but that's about it
in r1 rn btw

void wyvern
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If you can’t kill before sync. You may want to consider a post sync setup

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What support ex’s do you have? @lunar dawn

lunar dawn
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I plan to use bolt red and SS hilda on Bertha/Lucian (idk which I'll put red on)

void wyvern
#

What moves are you doing with Hilbert?

lunar dawn
#

and Cyrus is an easy Cynthia obv

void wyvern
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The first 3 before sync

lunar dawn
#

TM, dire hit + x2 or techno to rebuff first and then TM + dire hit
Idk which to go with

void wyvern
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The biggest primary issue of your team is how long it takes to actually have SS Hilbert doing real damage. That’s why’d suggest using Sonia.

formal vigil
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Do you have someone that buffs special attack and crit? Helps set up ss hilbert faster

lunar dawn
mellow linden
lunar dawn
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the sun combined with rebuff crit supereffective next and 2 sync buffs is a lot

lunar dawn
void wyvern
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Sonia setting up crit is idea

lunar dawn
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Oh I didn't know she could do that

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Is it grid

void wyvern
#

Yes

lunar dawn
#

Neat, didn't think of that

void wyvern
#

Would you like a Sonia grid?

lunar dawn
#

Yee

void wyvern
#

But the plan will be this. Do Sonia’s Tm all 3 times. You will have to fish for refresh.

With Hilbert go for his Tm, Techno blast, and Tm again.

lunar dawn
#

This "pre sync" stuff is very new to me so I didn't have crit on her

void wyvern
#

Give me a minute to get it for ya!

lunar dawn
#

started 2 months ago and I only just figured out my parameters were wrong last week

lunar dawn
mellow linden
#

Critical Squad is one of the few tiles I’d consider to be mandatory for a Sonia grid, tbh

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It’s part of what makes her such an absurd Support

lunar dawn
#

I must've gridded her a while ago looking at my current one

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It's pretty bad

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Early on I didn't know the passive skill meta

void wyvern
#

A bit cropped but you should be able to see it

#

Does that all make sense?

lunar dawn
#

Yea

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I had something pretty similar except with master healer 1 (kind of forgot about half healing)

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Thank you so much for the help
I'll give this a go

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That's mp refresh on the left nvm
I didn't mean mh1

void wyvern
#

What exactly does Hilbert’s tm even do?

lunar dawn
#

Supereffective ^ 1

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And spatk up 3

void wyvern
#

That’s all?

lunar dawn
#

1 sec

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Yea that's it

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It's got mp refresh too

#

But grid

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Having the s effective bumps the damage from 12k to 17k on heracross iirc

void wyvern
#

Well, let us know if the strategy does not work out

lunar dawn
#

Is staggering 2 (30% flinch on tackle) worth getting on Sonia to potentially buy an extra turn
(you can fit it if you swap HP + 20 for spark +4)

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Or should I just buff her hp like you did

void wyvern
#

Yes you can do that.

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I didn’t actually think about it like that. Good job!

steel kelp
#

Finally beat flint wasn’t a 2k but I’ll take 1.5k

lunar dawn
#

(could be back here later idk hopefully the rest goes well)

void wyvern
#

@lunar dawn you’re welcome, just feel free to ask if you need help

steel kelp
#

Why is Cynthia so much of a pushover compared to flint

void wyvern
#

They didn’t design Cynthia all that well.

steel kelp
#

Beat her first try

mellow linden
#

Cynthia’s gimmick is Sandstorm, Flint’s is stupid high damage

rigid flint
#

Flint has pretty damn good damage

#

Mans OHKOd Sabrina with a fire blast

void wyvern
#

Flint you have to fiddle with other Mm parameters rather than damage.

#

Because he just does too much.

mellow linden
#

I’m guessing Psychic weak Flint was designed for Anniversary May

steel kelp
mellow linden
#

Since he’s more susceptible to Sp. Atk. debuffs, and you want those Sp. Atk. debuffs

steel kelp
#

Cool

rigid flint
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True

mellow linden
#

That’s the thing with Sinnoh CS, a lot of the gimmicks are specifically designed for certain limited pairs

steel kelp
#

Good thing I’m missing a majority of limited units cause only been playing a few months

rigid flint
#

From what I know a lot of people have been able to clear with the semi f2p psychic squad

mellow linden
#

Oh, that makes sense

rigid flint
#

Sabrina, Giovanni and Bianca

mellow linden
#

I cleared with Sabrina, Bianca, and Caitlin

void wyvern
#

Caitlin?!?

rigid flint
#

Yooo the Caitlin rep

void wyvern
#

10/10 based

rigid flint
#

That's a chad play right there

mellow linden
#

Takes a bit of RNG so Sabrina can survive long enough, but it’s doable

steel kelp
#

Maybe I’ll convert to Caitlin next psychic week

rigid flint
#

Mad respect

steel kelp
#

I’m not a gio believer

rigid flint
#

Understandable

void wyvern
#

10/10 Caitlin based

mellow linden
#

Fair warning, you’d need to EX Caitlin and I can’t say I recommend that unless she’s a fave

rigid flint
#

Gio does do stupid damage tho

old orchid
#

If Flint uses Fire Blast first turn, better reset the stage

void wyvern
#

Giovanni is absolutely busted

old orchid
#

The dude even ohko SS Dawn at full health lol

void wyvern
#

He does so much damage for a free unit

rigid flint
#

Yeahh

void wyvern
#

In fact new Hilbert actually goes really well with gio

steel kelp
#

I was probably doing something wrong but gio wasn’t doing anything until flint was about to psync

rigid flint
#

Who did u have?

steel kelp
#

Gio SS elesa and Bianca

rigid flint
#

Huh

#

From seeing that

#

That team shouldn't have much of a problem

void wyvern
#

Yes but also no.

mellow linden
#

Did you turn off “No Stat Reductions”?

steel kelp
#

Yes

mellow linden
#

Hmmm

void wyvern
#

I assume gio isn’t power boosted?

mellow linden
#

Weird, Giovanni should’ve been doing a ton of damage then

#

Is he gridded?

steel kelp
#

He’s gridded

mellow linden
#

Brainteaser/Smarty-Pants tiles?

rigid flint
#

Even without the power boost Gio should still be doing quite a bit of damage

void wyvern
#

You’re right.

#

The biggest issue with the team is that brain teaser/ smarty pants doesn’t get activated easily

rigid flint
#

Wait gimme a sec lemme redo and see if that team works

#

And I'll record

steel kelp
#

Only brainteaset

void wyvern
#

Smarty pants helps a lot with sync damage

mellow linden
#

And one more thing I want to check (moreso out of a desire to eliminate variables than anything), did you use Giovanni’s Trainer Move at all?

void wyvern
#

(That’s actually a fair question)

steel kelp
#

I realized what it is

#

I had him gridded for shadow ball and not psychic

void wyvern
#

Oop

steel kelp
#

I used his tm once

void wyvern
#

Might be good to use twice

mellow linden
#

Assuming you use SS Elesa’s Trainer Move on him that should be alright

steel kelp
#

I did

mellow linden
#

Yeah, probably related to being gridded for Shadow Ball then

void wyvern
#

Do you have head start /leg up on ss elesa?

steel kelp
#

Was hoping SS elesa wouldn’t get nuked and her tm would refresh

#

I do

void wyvern
#

That’s an important bit

steel kelp
#

I have vigilance as lucky on her

#

Even without fire blast from flint a crit from something else might’ve killed

mellow linden
void wyvern
#

Missing leg up / head start and using her tm before first sync doesn’t provide the full benefit.

But in our testing for gio’s missing damage it does not

mellow linden
#

I get that a lot of people love to run her for getting to your 1st Sync sooner, but eliminating the need to quadqueue is honestly just as good of a reason to run her

void wyvern
#

I run her for quad queue personally

rigid flint
#

Just did it with ss elesa, gio and bianca

steel kelp
#

I’ve never tried to quadqueue before now

void wyvern
rigid flint
#

Had the worst rng but still managed to clear it

steel kelp
#

And it’s so annoying when I don’t get it

mellow linden
#

Yeah, for Giovanni teams you generally need to either quadqueue or have Sync accel in some form. Mewtwo be squishy

void wyvern
#

I’ve never actually ran quad queue or sync accel with gio.

rigid flint
#

Same here

#

He tends to just destroy the stage in one sync

void wyvern
#

I’ll probably compare using pal dawn to ss Elesa with gio

mellow linden
#

Ah

#

Shows how long I’ve been using Caitlin for Psychic weak stuff

void wyvern
#

Caitlin needs the power boost

#

Critical strike 9 please

mellow linden
#

A Power Boost with some damage modifiers would be lovely

#

Not outright required since she can still clear Psychic weak stuff well enough, but lovely nonetheless

void wyvern
#

I remember pulling for Caitlin when she came out and thought she was great because she had 333 special attack

#

But seriously she could use some actual damage boosters

mellow linden
#

Brainpower + Furious Brain would be nice

void wyvern
#

She’s probably gonna get those.

#

Although I would greatly appreciate rising tide

molten nimbus
#

stored power: fortuitous 9

mellow linden
#

Caitlin doesn’t have Stored Power

#

That’s Bianca

molten nimbus
#

wait

void wyvern
#

Caitlin’s power boost is actually getting stored power

mellow linden
#

Caitlin has Hidden Power

molten nimbus
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"Upon sync, hidden power is changed to stored power"

void wyvern
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Oak’s research go brrrr

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I should start using oak on psychic weak

molten nimbus
mellow linden
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No

molten nimbus
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weakkk

mellow linden
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It’s just Psychic type

molten nimbus
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even weaker

void wyvern
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Just disappointment type

mellow linden
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Not like she uses it much if ever

trail smelt
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Psychic type given hidden power psychic

mellow linden
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Psychic is the move she’s spamming

trail smelt
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When she already has psychic

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Iirc MTyranitar also has Hidden Power right?

rigid flint
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Yep

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That, ancient power and thunderbolt

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Very weird choice of moves

trail smelt
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Lowkey I want that unit for real

white gale
white gale
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(but I must confess, I ended up taking the easy route and beat it with the zeus rodents)

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Here are my tentative teams for Sinnoh MM next week. Any suggestions or recs to improve them? A little worried Bea won't be able to handle it at 1/5. For Dark, Nessa and TMR are my best physical dark attackers, and Sonia just pairs well with a Phy Att team

void wyvern
river pagoda
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Does electric Aaron have spdef or def x2 next week?

void wyvern
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Def x2

mellow linden
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Sentry Entry, so Defense

river pagoda
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Eeee

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Out of these electric units it'd only be Hau tht I shud use as a striker right

mellow linden
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If you don't have Ash, NY Volkner, or Classic Elesa, you better start getting Hau ready

river pagoda
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Seems to be the only special striker

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Ya

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Which one is classic elesa

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Zebstrika?

mellow linden
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Emolga

river pagoda
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O

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Is tht limited too

mellow linden
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Poke Fair, yeah

river pagoda
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Eee oki

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I'll just use hau

mellow linden
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Yeah, Hau will probably work best. Try to get him to 5 stars if you can

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Oh wait

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You have SS Hilbert

river pagoda
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Only got 2 5* powerups rn

mellow linden
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I'm dumb

river pagoda
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Wait

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I'm also dumb

void wyvern
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Just realized that too

mellow linden
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Lol

river pagoda
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I forgot Abt his passive

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Ty

void wyvern
mellow linden
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You're totally covered with SS Hilbert

river pagoda
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What r the types for next week again aa I forgot

mellow linden
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Techno Blast is absurd

river pagoda
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Ss Hilbert + Skyla and sycamore cleared mesprit alone tht was crazy

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First ever legend arena and it went hella well

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I just stuck the other necessary theme units in the first 2 teams to get the mission clears and then finished w those 3

mellow linden
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That's pretty much the way to do it, yeah

void wyvern
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Mesprit?

mellow linden
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Also Azelf is the one you're thinking of

river pagoda
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O mb

mellow linden
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It happens

white gale
void wyvern
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I might just be crazy

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If I am I’m sorry

white gale
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oh I don't know, maybe pomatools is wrong?

void wyvern
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Cobalt help

river pagoda
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Sidney vs Nanu for dark weak Lucian next week?

mellow linden
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Water weak Flint doesn't have Wise Entry, but he does have Discourage 2 (-2 Sp. Atk. for the opponents on entry) and Satisfied Snarl 9 (lowers Sp. Atk. by 1 stage when hitting the opponent), so physical Water is recommended anyways

void wyvern
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Thank you

mellow linden
void wyvern
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Nanu actually hits pretty hard for a free unit. But Sidney is fun.

mellow linden
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If you have Nessa and aren't planning to use her for Flint next week you can put her with Sidney and someone like Hilbert (if he's 3/5). Sidney Syncs, Nessa spams Jaw Lock, Hilbert buffs

river pagoda
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I don't have nessa 😩