#Champion Stadium

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toxic cobalt
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Not dealing with evasion hax

swift swan
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preferably someone who can buff speed too

swift swan
toxic cobalt
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If Gioking misses he loses his critical crit train SycamorePanic

swift swan
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if someone finds it easier than Hoenn they're tripping

swift swan
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pair suggestions from the in-game tips? SophoKEK

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on paper it seems like Flint's the scariest but psychic roster is just so bloated I didn't remember having trouble at all

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lucian's gonna trample me over though

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anyone got tips for EX Hilbert/Guzma/Lunge Lusamine comp WEEZing

tribal agate
swift swan
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"we recommend you to use a pair that hasn't reran since his debut in february 2021!"

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non-leon havers stay seething

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that's me, I'm a non-leon haver

full mesa
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I'm loving those DeNa tips.

swift swan
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unfortunately for Sinnoh I couldn't replicate a single one

sick stump
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revised teams šŸ‘

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honestly moving ssmorty to the fire team was a very nice suggestion, cuz i forgot the only sun multiplier I got on brendan was for his moves and I have grassy terrain + support ex boosting that

spring fable
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how is next week cs?

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i havent cleared sinnoh, so that means i need to use the specific types again?

mellow linden
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Yeah, you’ll have to fill out Sinnoh’s type medal to unlock Master Mode

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So 1 week of Hard Mode only

spring fable
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damn idk if i can do it though

mellow linden
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Hard Mode should be fine

spring fable
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i need to use all 18 types?

mellow linden
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Yeah, but since it’s impossible to do all 18 in 1 week you can break it up across 2 to make it easier to fit the types

spring fable
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shucks 2 weeks of no rewards then

mellow linden
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Only 1 since once you unlock Master Mode you can reset to do your point run that same week. It’s no big deal, everyone has to lose a week on their 1st time doing a region

spring fable
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thats true

swift swan
swift swan
hidden ore
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Hmm its tempting against Lucian to use Aaron & Escav & Gilbert

swift swan
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Oh you said "only". Then yeah 1 week of no MM rewards

swift swan
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Hilbert's special sadly so he won't be doing as much damage. And -1 rebuff is still less than a zone multiplier

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Not that it'll be hard though, with emmet on the team

hidden ore
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No Accelgor

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šŸ˜”

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Wanted to pull him cause I liked the unit & event

swift swan
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Ah. It's alright, you should have an easy time with either one of the sc twins

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Meanwhile the rest of us are seething

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At least Noland and Bugsy have grids now

upper mantle
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With these sync pairs is it possible for me to 2k each mode?

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(images are sending)

swift swan
upper mantle
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My bad I will

mellow linden
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At a glance it looks like you’ll be fine

swift swan
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..wow, EX SS brock BrockChamp

swift swan
# upper mantle

I'd say yes. You have some very good units. The demon rats, great supports, kantrio can all be in separate teams, summer N, ss korrina, ss wally, ss may, ss steven, ss cyrus (basically a cheat code), ss leon, pal marnie, ss hilda...

mellow linden
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It’s a shame Ghost weak Lucian is Wise Entry, really won’t help Helena out with breaking people out of the ā€œ3-star = badā€ mindset like she should be doing

tired sleet
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Hmm is groudon worth slotting for Bertha?

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Then I use 2 grasses?

dark osprey
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Do you mean groudon with Bertha?

tired sleet
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As in versus bertha

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So groudon and 2 grass types

dark osprey
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Oh. Yeah.. That should be good

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Double strikers are great

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Support need not be grass i guess

upper mantle
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alright can somone please help, I'm stuck on 2k bruno.
The units I've used are - skyla, glacia, brendan/latios, ghetis, sst red/pikachu, jasmine/ceslesteelia, leaf/vensuar, may/blaziken, ash.
the units I'm trying to save for blue - Cynthia/lucario, hilda/victini.

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the left over units -

toxic cobalt
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Cyrus Roxanne May

upper mantle
toxic cobalt
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Standard presync

upper mantle
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is there a video I can follow cause whatever I'm doing aint working

toxic cobalt
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I can make one

upper mantle
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yes please, it'd be much appriciated.

upper mantle
toxic cobalt
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Not sending my Mudkip grid because lol. Grid May to have crit MPr and for sync nuke.

upper mantle
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fair, ty.

upper mantle
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ok after several attempts and non stop losing I decided to sacrifice 500 points since the last reward didn't matter much.

trail smelt
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I’m surprised Rain Cyrus couldn’t cut it

wicked otter
# toxic cobalt

That's rain cyrus and all 3/5 with lvl 135 why the strength only 26k i think it should ve been around 30k and it should be easy with that team

swift swan
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Probably because May is unevolved

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Which is, btw, very based

toxic cobalt
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Genuinely, I feel losing the one bar would weaken the team

swift swan
zealous karma
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Honestly I just realized how F2P clears are some of the more fun ones

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I think I’ll record one

tired sleet
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Should I use redpika on the bug weak over alder?

dark osprey
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Probably.

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You're talking about the next week's CS right?

tired sleet
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Sinnoh yes

dark osprey
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Yeah physical attacker better than alder

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What move level is your Red pika?

tired sleet
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3

dark osprey
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Ah awesome

tired sleet
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I still think Bertha is gonna be wierd af

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Do I run like groudon hooh and celebi?

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That shit looks jank lol

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Hooh being morty ho oh

dark osprey
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Ho oh as in silver? That would be more than enough

tired sleet
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Silver is probably stuck with aaron

dark osprey
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Oh. Ss Morty wouldn't be that necessary

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Do you have SS Erika?

tired sleet
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Maybe I should use rain team on bertha

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Uhh I think so

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1/5 tho

dark osprey
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1/5 itself is great

tired sleet
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And I still have to manage my typing too for the medal

dark osprey
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Oh wait

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If it's for the medal you'd have to make teams accordingly

tired sleet
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Ya I have no clue this time

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I'm assuming all those passives in hard mode as well

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If it isn't then probably not too bad

dark osprey
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If this is your first Sinnoh CS try to get in like 12 or so types at least I guess

tired sleet
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Psychic weak is deoxys 1/5 gonna make it

dark osprey
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Oh yeah

tired sleet
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Grass I got celebi but the weather thing

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I dunno what to deal with that

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Is either sun or rain

dark osprey
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I think you can plug in anyone along with Groudon

tired sleet
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Groudon is 3/5

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If it changes things

dark osprey
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Great. For hard CS, I'm sure solar beams and celebi flinch locking is more than enough

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So can put in a weird type

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Like fairy or something

tired sleet
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Huh no water weak this whole cs

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Week 4 my bad

tired sleet
dark osprey
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Ah yeah lol. Keep forgetting about that

eternal lodge
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will this be enough for last week's aaron

dark osprey
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Lol. Is this for a solo?

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Am curious to see as well

swift swan
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even the usual N/Hilbert/Volkner team can do electric aaron

zealous karma
swift swan
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so I think SST Red should be fine

zealous karma
swift swan
zealous karma
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šŸ’€

swift swan
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postsync though

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but this is sst red we're talking about SeleneLul

zealous karma
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Post sync my hatred

eternal lodge
zealous karma
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Electric Phoebe didn’t have any entry skills I thought

eternal lodge
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tho if it doesnt work, i can always rely on a normal team, or my favourite team with rotom, redkachu and deoxys

toxic cobalt
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Aaron hits really weakly iirc so post syncs are easier than normal

zealous karma
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I remembering clearing it with hau

zealous karma
swift swan
zealous karma
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Correct

swift swan
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special damage reduction just means there's a shield that reduces damage from special attacks, but it's easily ignored by crits

zealous karma
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Special damage reduction param also is a shield just like the parameter which is ignored by crits

swift swan
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x2 entry means the base stat is doubled (sentry entry x2 is doubled defense, wise entry x2 is doubled special defense). nothing can ignore this

zealous karma
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When do we get an electric week stage with permanent crit shields on entry vigilance null interference and healthy advantage 5

tired sleet
eternal lodge
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even if it is, even if he survives solo redkachu, i dont think hell survive 1 support sync + 2 3/5 redkachu syncs + max move

swift swan
zealous karma
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Same

eternal lodge
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and if that somehow happens i guess ill just go ash

swift swan
zealous karma
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SSTRed hits very hard

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But Aaron also has a lot of hp

toxic cobalt
swift swan
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probably just flinchlock the stage with red's staggering

zealous karma
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My PSerena was able to clear cynthia fairy week despite wise entry but at the same time I was omega carried by the round parameter -6 SpDef and Cynthia has like 10K less Jo than Aaron

swift swan
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if nuking doesn't work

zealous karma
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Angry ambiguous creature

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I had to 5* my hau and replace Sabrina with hop

swift swan
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smh players these days. back in my day we didn't have a pair of Zeus rats to sweep stages. I had to rely on its Alolan evolution

zealous karma
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So true

swift swan
eternal lodge
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i see flinches and sleep as cheating so ill try to beat it through raw power

zealous karma
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Oh wait it’s reset when did that happen

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Me using Serena is cheating (:

swift swan
zealous karma
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I like cheating

swift swan
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<doesn't have ss cyrus

eternal lodge
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i use cyrus, but i usually dont change parameters and i always use n ostatus condition, may be wated potential, but it still works

zealous karma
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Sstred should be fine I imagine but also expect some difficulty

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Who do you nuke with then?

eternal lodge
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cyrus

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still does dmg

zealous karma
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Whenever a tech doesn’t have their innate active I feel they hit for a 1/4 of their normal damage

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Oh that’s not his innate

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Moyai

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Ig if it’s a 1/5 Cyrus should be fine 🦦

eternal lodge
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i simply rather not selep, only situation where i sleep/flinch is when im doing challenge runs with bigger score and cant get through a battle with anything else

zealous karma
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Wth Cyrus only has sleep DPS multipliers and not sync

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Extra moyai

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Dena

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I just do whatever I find fun lel if it’s a part of the game I don’t call it cheating

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For example with SSLyra you basically lose all her utility if you are not using grassy glide in which you’re pretty much forced to flinch every time

eternal lodge
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it is, i just prefer fighting something that could fight back

swift swan
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it's just a unit's gimmick, what can you do LanceShrug

eternal lodge
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i can restric myself by not using that gimmick B)

swift swan
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ss lyra in shambles

zealous karma
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Rip SSLyra

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Has to span tms for 6 whole turns

eternal lodge
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i dont have sslyra so tahts not a problem for me

zealous karma
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Agony

swift swan
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what happens when you run out of TMs

zealous karma
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You cry

swift swan
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fish for grassy terrain mprs LyraHooray

zealous karma
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I like crying it’s very fun

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I lose after one attempt

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Immediately start crying

toxic cobalt
zealous karma
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lel

swift swan
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me when I started doing MM

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felt like anxiety

zealous karma
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My first MM 2K

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Felt like pain

swift swan
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now I want that hyper offensive presync dopamine

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man what has happened to me

zealous karma
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I remembering being so confused as to why my Faitlin got one shot

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By everythint

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(It was because I had max poh and max Atk boostin params)

swift swan
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when I first did MM I hadn't joined this server and didn't know which params were good for me so I just threw everything at the wall and see what sticks

zealous karma
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I only chose HP params

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For 1.5K

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I don’t know how I did it because I was also pre syncing

swift swan
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strength used to scare me because I thought it was a HUGE jump in power lmao

zealous karma
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Same lel

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Nkw I only use strength 12

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3K is so fun

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I wonder if I can 15K this week

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Should be very free

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Since there’s no fast sync

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Idk why I’m very surprised Victor made this Steve feel like a cakewalk despite 3K

swift swan
zealous karma
swift swan
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isn't that... 3.5k

zealous karma
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Oh great

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Wow how did I just look at my spark supports and thought Sabrina is my best one for gauge right…?

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I know SSKris is a good one for gauge but it makes me sad

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So I need sonia for round 3 and round 4 idk how I’m going to mama he to duplicate the same kit on a unit

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6K off type in 3K is pretty absurd wow diantha

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Why did no one tell me Ghetsus had DPS

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10K aoe is wow

swift swan
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Ghetsis has always had DPS

zealous karma
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I did it

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Now I’m struggling in water

onyx osprey
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2k mm is easier than i thought

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you guys opened my eyes

main trellis
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yea it's not too bad

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for f2p players it could prove to be a bit challenging depending on the type weaknesses

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but honestly for the most part it's chill

main trellis
boreal rose
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Ice weak Agatha sucks

main trellis
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even after his power boost from Unova VA, his EX sync nuke is lowkey cheeks

boreal rose
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You cabt change my mind

main trellis
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sucks in what way?

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like it's just hard to beat?

boreal rose
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Wdym?

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Yeah

main trellis
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it's more of the fact that Ice is the worst non-Normal type in the game rn

boreal rose
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I've been trying to beat it all week

main trellis
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maybe I can help

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are u aiming for 2k?

boreal rose
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Yeah

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I have only used Dojo Gloria, Swimsuit Misty and Swampert May

main trellis
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do u have SST Red by any chance

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bc u could just ET overload and offtype

boreal rose
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ET?

main trellis
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electric terrain

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for this week I offtyped Agatha bc Ice is a rly weak type in this game

toxic cobalt
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Didn't someone already suggest teams MarleyWhat

boreal rose
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Wdym?

main trellis
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oh i didn't know, mb

toxic cobalt
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No not your bad

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Clearly worth another try! Go ahead if you have some ideas I'm a bit busy

main trellis
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u could either offtype or build a team centered around Summer Steven

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he's not the best but he'll do

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Summer Steven, Ghetsis, and maybe Sonia to max out Atk and provide potions

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And just try standard parameters + whatever u need to switch around

boreal rose
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Ok

main trellis
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and if summer steven isn't working for u, maybe consider switching to hala assuming u invest some resources into upgrading him

boreal rose
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I cant do it

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Hala is lvl 1

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Il try Psychic off type

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I give up

swift swan
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what happened

boreal rose
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I died

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And i easily rage

swift swan
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What team did you use for offtyping?

boreal rose
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Finally

boreal rose
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Now i used a different one

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My game quit

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And i think i have to do it again

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I FICJCDUXNTHG I CO CI FE

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I dont care anymore

boreal rose
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If i hear a person call Kanto CS easy im gonna go ballistic

trail smelt
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It is

main crow
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Just wait until next week CS starts WhatchaTalkinAbt

swift swan
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it's the easiest if you compare it to the other regions. most would call it easy

toxic cobalt
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Let’s not go on about it

boreal rose
boreal rose
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Wont be playing the game by then

trail smelt
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What’s a pillow sides?

boreal rose
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Yk

dusty path
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I mean... yeah...
I have been playing a couple years, but Kanto is easy compared to most of the others

keen jasper
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At least we're gonna have a challenge this month

old orchid
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Looking forward to next week LucianScheme time to bully the Sinnoh E4

dusty path
boreal rose
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Couple years

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I have played after my break for idk. Half a year

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Also i have almost no knowledge on team building

toxic cobalt
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Hi Apple it is clear you are frustrated, but this is not a good place to vent.

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We have a few resources on teambuilding and on battle tactics you can look at

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There is also the victory road tutorial in gam

boreal rose
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I have played it

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I beat the whole game lmao

toxic cobalt
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Can be useful to refresh

boreal rose
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How will it help nr build teams tho?

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It gives you 3 characters and then like "change tactics" that's it

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Is Lorelei physical

mellow linden
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Iirc Lorelei uses a mixture of both physical and special with a slight lean towards special

boreal rose
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Oh

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Woukd sabrina work?

mellow linden
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Could be wrong about the slight lean towards special though

boreal rose
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4/5 non ex

mellow linden
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What team would you be using?

boreal rose
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AnniMay, Giovanni, Sabrina

mellow linden
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Against Lorelei? Are you missing Grass Strikers/Techs or something?

boreal rose
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Yes

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And SSErika cabt do it

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And im saving SSMorty for Blue

mellow linden
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She should be able to with Support EX at most

boreal rose
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I dont have a good EX support there

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Cuz im saving Skyla for Lance

old orchid
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Hop SS Erika and a leer bot can clear Lorelei

mellow linden
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Honestly, probably this ^

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Alternatively use Skyla for Lorelei instead of Lance. I can say from experience that EX Support isn’t necessarily needed (I ran Hop + EX Steven + Rachel) and Skyla is weak to Rock anyways

boreal rose
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They died

boreal rose
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Oh i didnt say my team

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My bad

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Im planning on using Gloria for Lance

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Tha OG Gloria

mellow linden
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So you could try Hop + Gloria + Marley for Lance and run Skyla on your team for Lorelei alongside SS Erika + a 3rd

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Only thing Steven has over Gloria is flinches

boreal rose
mellow linden
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And they’re not really needed

boreal rose
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This is why

boreal rose
mellow linden
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Could also just use K. Grimsley

boreal rose
mellow linden
# boreal rose Steven?

I use Steven for Steel weak Lance, I was just saying that Gloria should work just as well

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But anyways, K. Grimsley would be a good pick

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Even without Metal Burst shenaniganery

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Also, are you using pre-Sync parameters?

boreal rose
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Yep

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Also. Gloria cannot do it

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Even at r3

mellow linden
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So I’d bet that’s a big reason why you’re having issues. You’re not KOing before Sync but using parameters that require KOing before Sync

boreal rose
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Obv

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Cuz my charakters suck

mellow linden
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They don’t but ok

boreal rose
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On post sync they die to 3 hits

mellow linden
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Sounds more like an issue of move RNG on that one. Sometimes the AI just decides to pull out all its strongest moves immediately

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Usually I just start the fight over if that happens

boreal rose
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Ok

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But ik i will die quickly no matter the move

mellow linden
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If you’re going to assume you’ll lose before even trying then there’s nothing I can do to help you

cosmic vortex
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Hope i can clear Lucian next week with Sshilbert and Lusamine SabrinaPray

mellow linden
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He’s got Wise Entry and Sp. Atk. debuffs, so idk

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I plan to just off-type him with SS Korrina + SSR Cynthia

cosmic vortex
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Oh i got those as well but my SsKorrina only 1/5 CyrusSweat

mellow linden
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With SSR Cynthia even 1/5 SS Korrina might work, but I make no guarantees on that

boreal rose
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Next CS had bug weak? Thank god im missing it

trail smelt
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Oh right I need to slap on the fire gear on my team

dark osprey
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I remember Guzma and lunge lusamine got through Lucian with an EX support.

boreal rose
toxic cobalt
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Double striker power

boreal rose
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Thank god i dotn have them

mellow linden
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I remember going through the RNG Hell that is Poison stalling, which is why I’m glad to be getting revenge with SS Korrina + SSR Cynthia

boreal rose
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I wont rage THAT much

toxic cobalt
boreal rose
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Not really

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There is still if the enemy misses or no

trail smelt
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Well there’s RNG when I use SS Leaf lol

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Sometimes she just doesn’t wanna AoE Toxic the enemy

dark osprey
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I remember even the poison stalling did need some tweaks like Aaron would actually be better with gradual healing on

toxic cobalt
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Been so long since I’ve seen someone SSL Solo

mellow linden
toxic cobalt
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I usually stall with gradual healing nowadays. Don’t want to deal with the extra strength.

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Eh just let them die

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Depends on the tank of course

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You can build rng poison teams SeleneLul

mellow linden
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At the time it was usually:

Potions run out -> tank dies -> crits kill the rest

But now there’s no need for me to worry about that

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It certainly didn’t help that I was still somewhat new to actually doing 10k when Sinnoh CS initially dropped

boreal rose
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Would 1500 be easier?

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And would the difference be big?

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I mean Lorelei

mellow linden
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Definitely easier, idk by how much though

toxic cobalt
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Apple you have 20 EX units, I would focus less on the parameters and more on practicing triple queuing.

boreal rose
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I triple queue

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I cant quadqueue

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I can

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But i fail

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Ai is fast

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I beat it now tho

keen jasper
boreal rose
keen jasper
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Not really

boreal rose
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Yes really

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Ik cuz it uses a move and i cant quadququw

keen jasper
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Unless it is ruined by a field wearing off during your sync or a counter ability activates, quad queue is still no matter how fast the AI is

boreal rose
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No

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I click sync, ch2 move, ch3 move and then opponent clicks a move

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How to quadqueue then?

keen jasper
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Just practice quad queueing

boreal rose
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Without killing the character attacking ofc

boreal rose
keen jasper
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If you're having a hard time doing this thing, then just practice

boreal rose
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ARE YOH BLIND?

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Im saying that i click the moves

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And then the enemy clickz

mellow linden
boreal rose
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How am i supposed to hit quadququr then?

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Its:
Click sync → move ch2 → move ch3 → enemy clicks ove

mellow linden
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Better field effect management and keeping an eye on your Supports’ passives so you know whether they can act as tank or not

boreal rose
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I dont even get to sync

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I just get to click the sync

keen jasper
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You need to know your units' abilities

boreal rose
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Im gonna assume you are blind cuz im saying why its sometimes impossible to quadqueue

mellow linden
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We’re saying why it’s sometimes impossible to quadqueue

keen jasper
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Yeah exactly

mellow linden
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Pay attention to your tank’s passives, some of them will screw up quadqueue if they trigger

keen jasper
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Counter abilities like Team Triage Tank, Team Shout or Freevenge can sabotage your sync countdown unless your tank has Adrenaline

mellow linden
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In the event that quadqueue is impossible under the circumstances (be it because of a field effect cast by a round parameter or a Support’s passive), do post-Sync parameters or bring Sync acceleration

boreal rose
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That HAS NOTHING to dod with what im saying

mellow linden
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It does

boreal rose
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No

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It does not

keen jasper
boreal rose
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Its:
Click sync → move ch2 → move ch3 → enemy clicks ove

swift swan
mellow linden
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We literally have said that those passives will allow for the opponent to queue a move before your Sync goes off

boreal rose
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Character doesnt even sync

toxic cobalt
boreal rose
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None of the moves even are used

swift swan
boreal rose
keen jasper
swift swan
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why don't you try recording your run so we can see what exactly triggers the enemy using a move

mellow linden
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Then record footage and prove us wrong

swift swan
toxic cobalt
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You don’t need to quadqueue to win anyway. You have super powerful units. Triple queue with DPS will whittle them down to nothing.

swift swan
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do we have a damage reduction on start parameter this week? can't really remember

boreal rose
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I stopped exactly when i cant quadqurue

swift swan
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I see there's a physical damage reduction shield disappearing right before Skyla's sync

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that's why your quadqueue fails

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is that round 4

keen jasper
boreal rose
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Yee

swift swan
#

also, that team gets NO crit

boreal rose
#

There was nothing like that theb

boreal rose
swift swan
#

what round was lorelei

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and what units did you use

boreal rose
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3

swift swan
#

it may have been because of a weather you set

boreal rose
#

SSErika

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Sycamore

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And Lillie

swift swan
#

did you click sycamore's TM first turn?

boreal rose
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Yes

swift swan
#

that explains it

boreal rose
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Nope

swift swan
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Sycamore gives move gauge acceleration

boreal rose
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Cuz it was after it ended

swift swan
#

which will wear off RIGHT before sync

boreal rose
#

Not when i had it

swift swan
# boreal rose

that's the same effect that happened here, preventing you to quadqueue

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if you want to set up weather/zone/terrain/move gauge accel on the first cycle, click it third. so Sycamore moves last in your queue

swift swan
# boreal rose

this, however, is an innate field effect due to the stage param. you can't really control it

mellow linden
#

Yeah, it’s field effects wearing off for both those cases

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Also, you don’t need Solgaleo if you’re using Gloria

keen jasper
#

You also don't have a crit buffer too on your team

swift swan
#

is hop still available? both hop and gloria like it when the enemy gets to sync anyway. plus your team will be getting crit that way

boreal rose
#

Is 17k (hitting blue) normal for 2k blue?@swift swan

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With Silver

mellow linden
#

What, on Sync?

boreal rose
#

Wdym on sync?

mellow linden
#

As in, is that the damage of the Sync move or a regular move?

boreal rose
#

Regular

mellow linden
#

17k is kinda great then

boreal rose
#

Ok umm

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Blue is a pushover

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Hardest Kanto E4 for a easy champ

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Wtf

mellow linden
#

Kanto CS in general is pretty easy as CS regions go

boreal rose
#

No

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Do not

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Call cs

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Easy

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When talking to me

swift swan
#

champion is generally the easiest

boreal rose
#

No matter which CS ir is

swift swan
#

I rarely recall a hard time beating a champion in CS

boreal rose
#

You are good at the game probably

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Im not

mellow linden
#

Master Mode is moderately challenging in general, but Kanto was the 1st CS region and so hasn't stood the test of time and powercreep

swift swan
mellow linden
#

So as Master Mode goes, Kanto CS is pretty easy

boreal rose
swift swan
#

I mean I never imagined being able to do 10k on any CS when I first started

boreal rose
#

Nice joke

mellow linden
#

You just have to be willing to put in the effort

mellow linden
swift swan
#

you just need to get used to the trial and error, experiment with teams and params that suit you

boreal rose
#

I am

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Its just that i suck

swift swan
#

yeah well diagnosing yourself with skill issue isn't going to help the problem

mellow linden
#

Everyone sucked at some point. It's a choice whether you continue sucking or begin moving upwards to at least "somewhat competent"

swift swan
#

and you'll end up being frustrated

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take your time, small steps, and if you feel like something's not working, ask what's wrong. like that fourth round with Lance, the quadqueue failing is not your fault at all

mellow linden
#

That attitude is a self-fulfilling prophecy

boreal rose
#

Self what?

mellow linden
#

It means by retaining the mindset of "I suck at everything" then on some level (be it knowingly or unknowingly) you won't actually make a true effort to improve

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And thus you will suck at everything

boreal rose
#

Retaining?

mellow linden
#

So instead of holding the mindset of "I suck at everything" at least try "I suck at this now, so what can I do and learn to not suck?"

mellow linden
boreal rose
#

Oh

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When i try to change i suck at it

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Soo

mellow linden
#

I very much doubt that you actually suck at making a change if you actually put the effort in. Like I said before, if you keep the negative mindset then on some level you won't truly make the effort to improve. You may not even be aware of it

boreal rose
#

Nah

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I tried multiple times

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And i failed at it

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No matter what it was

mellow linden
#

But tbh that's well outside the scope of this channel and even this server, so I'll just cap it off with this: Start with the mindset of "it's possible to improve" and don't let failure discourage you (failure is just as much a part of improvement as success is).

If you just assume you'll fail before you even try then no amount of advice will help

boreal rose
#

Ok

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Idk if i will be able to

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But ok

ivory pagoda
#

I mean what have you tried

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like i couldnt beat cobalion a month ago

boreal rose
#

In game?

ivory pagoda
#

Decided ill try later

boreal rose
#

Beating Kanto CS

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Irl?

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It would be a list

ivory pagoda
#

mastermode?

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i dont have it unlocked

boreal rose
#

Yes

ivory pagoda
#

cant say anything then Clueless

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No idea how hard it is

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Barely beat regular league myself

dusty path
ivory pagoda
dusty path
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Nicely done

ivory pagoda
#

i forgot with what

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i just decided ill do it again and i had an easier time

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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

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anyway im off topic

spring fable
#

I am so not ready for next week

mellow linden
#

Fortunately next week for you is only Hard Mode, so you can get used to how Sinnoh CS operates

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And tbh what IMO are 2 of the hardest Sinnoh CS stages are next week, so only doing Hard Mode is actually really nice

spring fable
#

Delaying the pain

boreal rose
#

For me hardest will be Bug

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No matter if HM or MM

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Posion?

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Eh

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Maybe

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Idk

swift swan
#

poison is always stallable

boreal rose
#

Yeah

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I say maybe cuz of Iris

swift swan
#

no poison-weak stage has ever been non-stallable so far

boreal rose
#

Imagine

dusty path
#

@boreal rose Sorry I'm late to the party and this will probably be my only contribution šŸ˜…
There is always things to learn. Personally, I've made it to the legendary gauntlet stage of learning, and there's still heaps I'm learning about different units. You have to just be willing to accept that most of the time when you start something with no previous experience, you won't have basic to intermediate skills, and you'll probably suck. But if you are willing to try, celebrating after success or learning from failure for your next attempt, you will get better. That's what we all just have to do. It gets harder but you can push through.

boreal rose
#

Poison weak but immune to poison as in the umm

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Not type but the yk

dusty path
boreal rose
#

Yes

mellow linden
boreal rose
#

Imagine doing MM Hoenn CS

mellow linden
#

Don't need to imagine it, I did it

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IMO not as bad as Sinnoh with the exception of Steel weak Glacia and maybe Bug weak Sidney

boreal rose
#

Bug weaks are always hard imo

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Until SSHilbert

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But idk

mellow linden
#

I think it was Bug weak Sidney that just had ludicrous damage, at least

boreal rose
#

Dont plan on pulling

dusty path
#

I think I've managed to do MM every region so far... Don't remember much about them tho šŸ˜…

boreal rose
#

I mewn

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I want to pull

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But

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Part 2 UnoVA

toxic cobalt
#

There are only 3 very reliable but strikers (all Unova PrycePain )

spring fable
#

Which

dusty path
toxic cobalt
dusty path
#

Burgh too, still Unova tho šŸ˜‚

spring fable
#

Oh

mellow linden
# spring fable Which

Alder, SC Emmett, and I guess SS Hilbert (though he's a Tech and not a Striker in terms of the in-game category)

spring fable
#

Bug strikers

dusty path
#

Burgh carried the Rosa part 2 extreme battle, quite the capable bug striker

mellow linden
#

I wouldn't necessarily call the other options "unreliable", but those 3 are on a bit of a higher overall power level compared to the others

spring fable
#

Is the channel too busy for me to ask for help for next week?

toxic cobalt
#

I use other options, but I needed a term for the click and win units

spring fable
#

Brb drafting teams

mellow linden
#

Though I will say you probably don't need to worry that much about next week since for you it's Hard Mode and Hard Mode has never been that restrictive

boreal rose
mellow linden
#

Other than "don't use special against Lucian" next week, I guess

spring fable
#

Do I get gems for unlocking MM

boreal rose
#

Maybe Unova MF

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If there will be

mellow linden
boreal rose
#

Even 50 would be cool

dusty path
#

Ah okay, saving for that possibility. Good choice

spring fable
#

Incentivises players to get all the typing for that region

boreal rose
#

well im not saving rn cuz of Faitlin but i probably wotn gef her

spring fable
#

It’s required to unlock mm anyway

boreal rose
#

I mean

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Kinda

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Idk

#

Yo do get 25 Champ Spirits from CS normally

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Which isnt a lot but its something

mellow linden
#

It's halfway to an EX

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That's significant in the long run

dusty path
#

And you can get up to 50 iPowerUpTicket from MM, on top of the (I think) 40 iPowerUpTicket from CS itself

mellow linden
#

I wanna say it's only 40 from Hard Mode

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Right as I said it, lol

old orchid
#

Hard CS only gives 40 iPowerUpTicket per week

dusty path
#

Ah right, 8 each one, huh?

mellow linden
#

Yep

swift swan
spring fable
#

because i'll be starting from hard mode,
fire weak Aaron - 1/5 victini
grass weak Bertha - 3/5 lycanroc
psychic weak Flint - 5/5 mewtwo (no EX no Mega)
bug weak Lucian - 1/5 genesect
poison weak Cynthia - 1/5 croagunk
are these strikers good enough to carry? then i'll slot the remaining 13 types in

swift swan
#

feel free to ping me if you need help

spring fable
swift swan
#

Bertha is like Moltres. you take away their innate weather and they lose 90% of their power

mellow linden
spring fable
#

ah

swift swan
#

I suppose for hard mode it's fine

mellow linden
#

Looker's fine for on-type

spring fable
#

its to fill type + its poison type

swift swan
#

take a look at the pins and pay attention to their gimmicks

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for poison I would much recommend stalling than 1/5 Croagunk but that's just me

spring fable
#

hmm

#

for bertha, how to "change" the environment?

#

sure i can cast sun /rain

mellow linden
#

Use a different weather setter or use Defog

swift swan
dusty path
#

You just need another weather, yeah

swift swan
#

Defog doesn't get rid of weather from what I know

mellow linden
#

Oh, does it not?

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My bad then

#

So only a different weather setter

swift swan
#

yeah, quite sad

mellow linden
#

Rain, Sun, Hail

swift swan
#

Sun is the best because a lot of grass strikers like sun

dusty path
#

Yeah defog doesn't work on weather :{

#

Entire terrain and zone, plus opponents field effects (like light screen, reflect, gauge accel, etc.)

spring fable
#

eevee is normal type?

mellow linden
#

Yep

spring fable
#

uh i tried to include overlapping buffs

#

and unique typing

mellow linden
#

I'd recommend using a Support instead of Helena against Cynthia, personally

boreal rose
#

Yesh

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Cuz she is a tech and she doesnt heal

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Or isnt tanky

spring fable
mellow linden
#

That works, you could do BP Morty as an alternative if you want to keep the Ghost type

spring fable
#

im missing ground, ghost and rock i think

swift swan
# spring fable

for Bertha, I strongly recommend a weather setter. maybe replace Hala with Candice? just for the hail

mellow linden
#

Ah, true

spring fable
#

ah i picked him because he's physical and is a 1 button buff

swift swan
# spring fable

Hmmm Falkner and Giovanni are good but Bea might eat up gauge. Her 6 TMs can only go so far. any other fighting types with lower gauge usage?

spring fable
#

wally?

swift swan
mellow linden
#

Literally

#

Well, actually no, Torterra is a tortoise

swift swan
swift swan
#

though his speed isn't that much better than Bea anyway

#

you end up not using ghost right? how about putting Helena there. she has nice speed and a 1 gauge move

#

You can delay fighting for the week after that

boreal rose
#

šŸ¤“

swift swan
# spring fable

if you want to deal damage against Lucian, you need to use physical attack since he has Wise Entry x2 which doubles the base stat of his special defense. not saying you can't bruteforce with special (I beat Lucian with special moves lmao), but just be ready for a pretty long battle

boreal rose
#

(yes i just šŸ¤“'d myself)

swift swan
#

the cynthia team looks good. just make sure you land a poison on cynthia

spring fable
#

i did some reordering, how this look?

#

falkner can buff atk and speed and crit for torterra

#

while cutting cyrus own hp i can try landing poison

#

ash is special and self sufficient

swift swan
#

Lucian wants physical

#

though I'm sure Ash can bruteforce it just fine lol

spring fable
#

oh im dumb

swift swan
#

it'll just take a while

spring fable
#

he's only 1/5

swift swan
#

it's hard mode after all

spring fable
#

i'll see what i have

swift swan
#

that Cynthia team has me worried. none of them is remarkably fast in my opinion

#

and if you're offtyping with Cyrus, having rain really helps

toxic cobalt
#

I don’t have looker, does he need buffs?

#

Can replace Cyrus with Marley for speed and burn heal

cinder summitBOT
#

STAR_5STAR_5STAR_5STAR_5STAR_5STAREX_0
ā€ŽĀ Type: TYPE_POISONā€Žć€€ā€Žć€€Weak: TYPE_PSYCHIC

Level 140 Stats:

HP: 586
ATK: 370 | DEF: 141
SPA: 370 | SPD: 141
SPE: 240

Acquisition:

ACQUISITION_GENERAL General Pool

Alternates:

None

Sync Grid Recommendations:

Full Sync Nuke (3/5)
Poison Jab / Sync Nuke (3/5)

Lucky Skill: Critical Strike 2

swift swan
#

Whooo I love using the bot

#

crit-wise, he's self sufficient (the usual dire hit+)

spring fable
#

do i want physical or special against bertha?

swift swan
#

but he only buffs his own attack by 4

toxic cobalt
#

Huh I can’t see that

swift swan
#

needs MPR for max

toxic cobalt
#

It’s user specific

#

4 sounds fine

spring fable
swift swan
toxic cobalt
swift swan
#

if I don't state any entries on pins, then both physical and special works equally fine

spring fable
#

ah yes

swift swan
#

can't switch to moves for some reason

#

although it works in bot zone

spring fable
#

some more changes

#

missing Fighting, Ground and Bug

#

since there is ice weak the week after, im thinking of removing Candice for SSHilbert

#

i think i'll prolly be using kyurem for the week after

boreal rose
#

Are these good?

#

Hard Mode

#

Some are put there cuz.....yes

#

Cuz its Hard Mode

swift swan
# spring fable

Lucian stage is mostly special so I think it's better to make Sycamore first target. remember to use horn leech over moonblast

#

looks okay to me. Roxanne might crumble quickly against Flint and there's a very high chance you'll get burned though...

boreal rose
#

I have no speed buffers

#

That arent repeats

swift swan
# spring fable

so if the burn ever bothers you later on, you can consider switching Sycamore to Flint team and grid for his Healing Hand. then just get a sp defense buffer for Lucian. but the team as it is is still worth a try

swift swan
boreal rose
#

I have no idea who to put there

swift swan
#

maybe move Nita to the anni may team since May gets free gauge under terrain anyway, plus she's quite self sufficient

#

then Falkner can go to guzma

#

Lucian's very bulky though and guzma's DPS is bad. that battle's gonna drag out for quite a while

boreal rose
#

I have Lusamine

swift swan
#

she's paper thin

#

Idk if she can presync alone in hard mode. might be worth a try. but I'm not too confident

#

I doubt she can postsync though. ain't no way she's gonna survive first sync without +6 sp defense and maybe some sp attack debuffs

spring fable
#

ok will leave rock typing for the week after

#

torterra or decidueye šŸ¤”

swift swan
#

what move level is decidueye

#

well to start off, they do different things

spring fable
#

idk they're just both physical dmg dealers

#

better go with torterra, since she has the full heal

#

just in case

swift swan
#

That team will have way too much healing lol

#

sycamore's gradual heal, sidney's potion, dawn's TM

spring fable
#

decidueye has higher atk stats but much lesser def

swift swan
#

I do prefer torterra though. she gives more utility

spring fable
#

hmm

#

since sycamore buffs after sync, replace sydney with karen?

swift swan
swift swan
spring fable
#

indeed

#

dang these type limitations

swift swan
#

I imagine you sync with sycamore first, then the rest goes to Sidney

swift swan
# spring fable dang these type limitations

don't be afraid to have one or two duplicate types if you're having trouble (but we'll see about this when you're actually doing the CS). 15 types against a region with a lot of gimmicks is rough

spring fable
#

okie!

#

worst case i'll reimburse the type week after

#

slow and steady CynthiaSmug

swift swan
#

I think the community collectively agrees Sinnoh is the hardest (and I'm willing to die on this hill) so no worries, take your time

#

the jump from kanto to sinnoh is cruel

zealous karma
wicked otter
mellow linden
#

Sinnoh’s gimmicks are much more restrictive than Kanto’s

wicked otter
#

These 2 months cs seems okay, but if sinnoh would be that hard maybe i wont be able to hit 10k next month 🄲

mellow linden
#

I think you’ll be able to pull it off

wicked otter
#

Hopefully, i hope csmm wont be a headache again as it used to haha

swift swan
#

well, here's the thing: "hard" depends on the units you have

#

you have SC ingo or SC emmet? then bug-weak Lucian is dead easy. you have neither? then suffer

#

Sinnoh is "hard" because they have a lot of bulk and passives, but that's really not the worst part. it's because of their entries, gatekeeping a lot of units

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if we ignore those entries, Hoenn actually has more bulk than Sinnoh and hits harder

mellow linden
#

Some, but usually just Attack or Sp. Atk. debuffs

swift swan
#

the only Kanto stage I find particularly challenging is fighting-weak lorelei

#

damn those evasion buffs

zealous karma
#

They made psychic hard by giving everyone aoe with piercing gaze

#

So unless you buff SpDef Gio will cry

#

(:

swift swan
#

not if you kill them faster than they could kill you EthanGenius

#

me feeding myself dopamine from presync clears

#

the left has one heat wave before sync (that you can deny if you flinch them I guess)

#

the bad part is the sides spamming heat waves after mid is down

wicked otter
#

I rarely clear csmm presync except with ash

#

The other almost always after sync

zealous karma
zealous karma
swift swan
wicked otter
#

wait that hard stage is fire?

#

i thought psychic

#

well ill just use ssa cynthia on other stages with no fire

zealous karma
#

Oh how I miss thee ā¤ļø

#

Man imagine if Aaron had heal share in this fight šŸ’€

wicked otter
#

god damn it

#

that means need to be 1 ohko

#

either i use wally or ash then

zealous karma
#

Gio can still clear the stage fine

#

Iirc I did a duo clear with him and Bianca

#

Against flint

wicked otter
#

which gio it is, mewtwo?

#

i dont have the gio ex though, i wonder

zealous karma
#

Mewtwo

#

I think aurochs might have a clear without ex’less Gio because they don’t Ex anyone

#

Man I missed sinnoh CS it was very fun

swift swan
#

I miss the stress of seeing the heal order

boreal rose
#

Why

zealous karma
#

It was fun

frosty axle
zealous karma
#

Very true

wicked otter
#

wait i dont get how sinnoh is way harder than prev CS

#

it seems quite the same

#

ive just watched the youtube video

#

and the one on the video use ex mewtwo but the mewtow only got 2 sp atk buff rip,

frosty axle
zealous karma
#

If it’s not 3K I’m going to cry

zealous karma
#

Man I need gauntlet RNG…

meager agate
#

you ever try to record a video of a battle you're easily able to beat normally

#

but the moment you start recording Hop goes on a 15-attempt MPR-less streak

old orchid
#

me who cant wait to use Helena on Ghost weak Lucian

Ghost weak Lucian has Wise Entry x2

meager agate
#

HOLY FUCK I GOT IT

#

my first full ice team ever in CS

#

even at 1.5k this was tough as hell to pull off

#

Melony has changed the game for me

trail smelt
#

What’s Melony’s role in a team?

dusty path
#

SpDef+crit buff, max resonance when you need, and sleep mostly

#

Safeguard to protect against status conditions, when you need it

zealous karma
wicked otter
zealous karma
#

Like flying week Lucian has 62K Hp šŸ¦‘

wicked otter
#

62k......

#

That sounds hard 😭

zealous karma
#

Bluedgeot can post sync at least

wicked otter
#

Ill try off typing first, hopefully still doable

zealous karma
#

Bluedgeot had an easy time for me in that stage but a week later ssethan came out so lel

wicked otter
#

Yea i mean there are ash sstred zerena sssteven and victini now

zealous karma
#

I did recorded a clear for people who didn’t have him

wicked otter
#

Which are bonker

zealous karma
#

Zerena was out when sinnoh cs came out

wicked otter
#

Ah i see, wonder if zerena can off type there

zealous karma
#

And silver had just gotten his power boost

wicked otter
#

I guess doable with the help of sp debuff lucian

zealous karma
#

Zerena can off type at 5/5 so she should be fine

wicked otter
wicked otter
zealous karma
#

Should be fine regardless

#

Im a whale with a 5/5 Zerena so lel

wicked otter
#

Damn haha

zealous karma
#

<- not an actual whale

#

Im F2P

wicked otter
#

If it is too hard maybe ill consider getting zerena and victini to 3/5

zealous karma
wicked otter
#

Got 3 strike candies anyways

zealous karma
wicked otter
zealous karma
#

I expect it to rerun next month

#

Or January

wicked otter
#

Really next month? I wish though, i need his power up

#

Another off type unit haha

zealous karma
#

Silver works pre expanded but I’m not going to lie to you and say he’s easy to use pre expanded he’s very difficult to use in fact

#

Supporting him is difficult if you don’t have SSMorty

#

Might even want to bring elio

wicked otter
#

Yea need to use extra slot for buffer

#

I have ss morty but still 2/5

#

Almost can get support candy, just 4 more coins rip

zealous karma
#

Morty works to support him at 1/5 🦦

wicked otter
#

Eh really? I thought at least need 3/5 for the full def dan sp def

zealous karma
#

Ig you have an ex l ye s she’s perfect for pre expanded silver

#

He doesn’t need that

#

I have a 3/5 Morty

#

He works the exact same as he did at 2/5

wicked otter
#

Haha okay, i guess ss morty 2/5 is enough

#

You don't use the def and sp def grid?

#

Atm i use ss morty eith victini in csmm but prefer silver

#

As victini can easily paired with other sync

zealous karma
#

Vitcini sure is the unit

swift swan
# wicked otter wait i dont get how sinnoh is way harder than prev CS

Kinda late to this but:

  1. Sinnoh has a lot of x2 Entries, which doubles the base stat of either physical or special defense, restricting a lot of your options
  2. They have a shit ton of passives that you need to counter. Some of these passives reduce the damage taken if you don't do certain things. Some make them hit way harder
  3. A lot of the stages have bulky HP
  4. Some stages have higher-than-normal offensive stats
#

imo it's the abundance of entries that make Sinnoh the most difficult

#

videos make it look like a breeze because you're just watching someone clear it. I think experiencing it hands-on will give a clearer idea

iron oar
#

Is it better to just clear the 5 for rewards then try for high points or to just go for high points?

keen jasper
#

And also, electric-weak Aaron has Heal Order before he synced

toxic cobalt
tired sleet
#

I mean if you go for points at first it saves time

tired sleet
#

I probably have made some questionable exs

swift swan
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I wouldn't really question any of those, but anyway that's not meant for this channel

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try #gacha-and-flex maybe

full mesa
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Steelix is the only one that can be considered odd. The rest are ok. Especially if you use them.

swift swan
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Steelix does gain mega stats after syncing so there's that

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also she has recuperation on grid apparently

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helped me quite a lot in gauntlet lol

onyx ice
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Nolan is always an option

swift swan
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yeah, at least noland and bugsy have grids now

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I must admit I've never used them though WEEZing

onyx ice
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Nolan is really good

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Expecially if you have 6ex (regular) Hilbert

swift swan
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I happen to have that šŸ‘€ and looks like his gauge is good enough to dual strike RosaThink or I could just bring a defense debuffer

onyx ice
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Lunge lusamine works great

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With regular (non 6ex) Hilbert you can run dual with busy and sync with bugsy

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Nolan has a decent sync, but DPS goes to trash if you build for sync

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Much better building for fury cutter and spam fury cutter only

swift swan
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my plan is to run EX Hilbert/Lunge Lusamine/Guzma

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last time I wasn't good enough for it lol

trail smelt
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Oh right I guess should stop making monotype teams for Sinnoh haha

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Especially for types without good support

keen jasper
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Damn, Silver destroyed Blue before Blue could do his 1st sync at max HP, strength and defense parameters

toxic cobalt
keen jasper
trail smelt
dark osprey
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Nice. Maybe could just go with Noland instead of Alder

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Or Nanu

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Kukui

swift swan
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I think natwaf wanted monotype teams

dark osprey
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Oh yeah forgot
My bad

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Noland it is I guess

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With Aaron it would be easy to slot lusamine. Maybe don't have them

dusty crater
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Ready for tomorrow
MinaSmile

trail smelt
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Why would I slot Lusamine for Aaron

dark osprey
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I meant if you had Aaron, could use him instead of NY lilie

trail smelt
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Oh then no I don’t have Aaron

dark osprey
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Thought so. You can't ignore Aaron once you've got him

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Bulk plus offensive buffing is top tier

full mesa
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Tomorrow is Sinnoh...

full mesa
swift swan
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this channel's going to be flooded tomorrow, I can feel it

keen jasper
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Sinnoh was my very first CS that I unlocked MM on, so yeah, gonna destroy it completely

swift swan
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Sinnoh was my 2nd 10k ever lol

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I went from my first 10k in Kanto to Sinnoh which I stubbornly decided I would do 10k or bust, out of pride

swift swan
devout sluice
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Oh right, Sinnoh this reset. (Oh boy PrycePain )

devout sluice
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I’m ready for flint to destroy me.

dark osprey
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Lol yeah. Though flint does hit hard

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But yeah. Just need to tank 2-3 moves at most

swift swan
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Flint on paper looks the hardest because he hits hard, is bulky, and debuffs a lot

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But I don't remember having trouble with him at all

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Psychic is just so bloated lol

dark osprey
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How does one guarantee ghetsis buffs+2 sp atk using the half HP paramaters? Remember that there was some team thing

main crow
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Guuhh I know I'd be spending my time a lot tomorrow asking for folks for help to fit the required types left for MM DrakePain

spring fable
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^ me HildaCry

main crow
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I still have 8 types left I believe nvr i only have 4 yay

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It's possible to get MM on the first week but honestly it would depend on the remaining types

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Hopefully there's some types I can cheese easily so I can slot some of the weaker types

spring fable
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Does it always take two weeks to unlock MM?

mellow linden
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If you haven’t made progress on the type medal/unlocked Master Mode already, yes

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But if you were to start on the last week of a region and do 9 types, for example, then the next time that region rolled around you could finish the medal and unlock Master Mode week 1

dusty crater
zealous karma
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It apparently works better than lusamine…

austere quest
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I think I will be okay unlocking MM Week 2 but I lose out on Week 1 rewards which sort of sucks for someone who can do 10k easily

zealous karma
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You never did sinnoh CS before?

austere quest
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Wonder if there would be a way to quantify how much that sets me back especially when I need to EX Peeps

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Apparently not

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I have Unova, Kanto, and Hoeon

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Don’t think I ever did Johto

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I also just started on the end August though so that’s why

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me when i flinch gigalith: ā€œwhat’s dire hit allā€