Champion Stadium

[keen jasper]

Why not Paralysis Synergy?

[main crow]

Round 1 Agatha should be okay yeah

[onyx ice]

Depends on the tank, with round 1 you are most likely to get poisoned or flinched by Agatha

[hidden ore]

So which round is best?

[onyx ice]

Probably the sp ark reduction one

[hidden ore]

For Agatha specifically

[onyx ice]

Or the sync boost one if you go for presync

[hidden ore]

I use post sync in my runs

😅

[onyx ice]

I guess round 4 then

The one that gives special damage shield at start

[keen jasper]

This is my DPS + debuff build on Ghetsis

[rose ermine]

Holy shit next week is so easy

Time to have some fun

[potent wadi]

Does anyone know what next month's Champion Stadium stages have Wise or Sentry Entry x2?

[keen jasper]

Ghetsis stronk, but I'll prolly need 3/5 SST Red for full potential

[gleaming lagoon]

Yes, i think with aaron

[keen jasper]

Wait wut?

[potent wadi]

This happened to me too and I'm still confused about that

[rose ermine]

I think I'm good for next week

[full mesa]

You aren't. This is Sinnoh. You can't just throw a few teams and call it a day. You'll need to make use of the field effects.

[tribal agate]

"rip Flint" more like rip Sabrina Fire Blast oneshot (don't underestimate him lol)

[keen jasper]

Yeah, and Flint has Piercing Gaze too

[grand trout]

I'm exing hau in anticipation of electric aaron

I hope he's enough (i feel he won't be)

[grand trout]

Master mode?

[mellow linden]

I've got Classic Elesa now, Electric weak Aaron will be lol

[tribal agate]

i use both, Hau and cElesa best friends

[old orchid]

Non ex hau is already enough. He just needs elec terrain

[full mesa]

I'll use Zeus' rodents. No mercy this time.

[old orchid]

Yeah with good support Togedemaru and Emolga can clear Aaron /j

[grand trout]

Still exing him, if only to exact revenge on the nightmare he inflicted last time

[grand trout]

Got celesa too but she's 1/5

[toxic cobalt]

I love how nobody even cares about this week

[rose ermine]

Always

[grand trout]

Yeahh those comps might not prove to be enough

[rose ermine]

Hmmm

Alright brb

[mellow linden]

1/5 should be fine, her grid tiles past that are more luxury

[grand trout]

Prolly for a nuke, but i need dps too

It's not that I'm underestimating celesa, I'm just taking no chances with aaron

[rose ermine]

Better?

Calem is 4/5 so he will very easily nuke

[keen jasper]

Man, it's so hard to off-type with Ghetsis with max HP parameters

I can almost kill Lorelei with just Ghetsis's sync alone

[tribal agate]

@ripe onyx have you attempted the game mode before?

[ripe onyx]

all ive done so far is defeat bruno

[tribal agate]

nice, well as you might have noticed the game mode locks the team you used so you cannot use those pairs again

so in total you need 15 pairs fairly built (100-120 in level)

[ripe onyx]

ahhh

[tribal agate]

rule of thumb is try to get a damage dealer (striker usually or tech) on-type and build around them

[ripe onyx]

yeah uh that may be my best characters gone LOL oh well

ive got others

yepp

do i try to work towards the 18 types needed?

[rose ermine]

Help

[keen jasper]

Damn, sides always kill me whenever I kill Lorelei

Should I bring the HP down a notch?

[tribal agate]

try defenses

[tribal agate]

it's too late for this region
Sinnoh is next week, you need a minimum of 2 weeks to complete medal
just do whatever this week and you'll continue next time Kanto comes back

[grand trout]

I think your poison team won't suffice

[keen jasper]

Trying to demonstrate off-type Ghetsis

[ripe onyx]

alright cool

[keen jasper]

He dealt 41k against Lorelei with max HP and offensive stats (no strength) with -6 speed

[tribal agate]

Glaciate couldn't manage the sides?

[rose ermine]

Damn

[keen jasper]

My team was also kinda bad

[grand trout]

Does your crobat have the skill that lowers defense

[keen jasper]

OG Lyra, Ghetsis and Pryce

[rose ermine]

MG9?yep

[grand trout]

Sp def*

Not mg9

[keen jasper]

The closest I managed was Lorelei being the last one and she killed me with Surf, but my Ghetsis didn't have endure

[grand trout]

I forgot the passive

[keen jasper]

And my Ghetsis's sync was ready by then

[grand trout]

Oh yeah it's mg9 lol

[grand trout]

Do you have ss leaf

[rose ermine]

3/5 EX

[grand trout]

Good, she's a good partner for koga

So koga won't poison things himself

And she accelerates sync countdown

Now you just need a tank

She also lowers sp def

[rose ermine]

But my dps is in shambles

And allister can poison

Guaranteed

[grand trout]

Venoshock has surprisingly good dps when you inflicted toxic

[rose ermine]

I've tried it before

Not enough dps

[grand trout]

With leaf?

Again, you need the sp def debuff

Ss leaf and koga made me clear cynthia back then

[rose ermine]

Ok I'll try

[keen jasper]

Can anyone tell me a perfect synergy team for Ghetsis's sync nuke?

[grand trout]

Who inflicts slow?

Speed debuff*

Pryce can but he's kinda gauge intensive

[keen jasper]

Either Pryce or 3/5 SST Red, but Pryce is trash man

[lunar meadow]

Venusaur used to be my poison stall tank.

I'd bring a partner like Starmie who could shore up some defense and add healing, but Venusaur has good base bulk

[keen jasper]

And my SST Red is 1/5

[grand trout]

Do you have palrena

[lunar meadow]

Heliolisk
And soon, lodge joltik

[keen jasper]

I've started since April 2022

[grand trout]

Wait, i think ghetsis can inflict slow himself

[lunar meadow]

He can. Not quickly but that was his main gimmick

[keen jasper]

He can, but I'm setting up his full nuke

[subtle forge]

Yeha but it’s slow. And you’re gonna be spending time debuffing with noble roar

[keen jasper]

Really I only have 1 tech candy and my SST Red is 1/5

[lunar meadow]

Dewgong/Kyurem would be a nasty combo but they cannot manage their move gauge at all. Both way too slow

[grand trout]

Maybe you need someone that can speed up the gauge

Who are your options

[keen jasper]

Who can buff Sp. Atk. and manage gauge at the same time?

Unless you want me to wait for Ghetsis's expanded grid?

[grand trout]

The one that comes to mind is elessa

[subtle forge]

Someone like SS Kris can buff but she has a hard time sustaining 2 damage dealers

SS Elesa does nothing for gauge. She can buff ghetsis and she’d be fine if he was by himself

[keen jasper]

My Pryce is at 4* level 125 now

I think I'll just dial down the HP parameters

[grand trout]

I never pick hp at all

Unless stall

[lunar meadow]

Not many...

We got Scyther, Yamper, and Samurott for physical.

For special, we have:
Latios who basically doesn't use the gauge himself
Rotom who basically regains anything it spends
Celesteela who has catalyst, and also regains what it spends
I think Janinebat raises speed? Or is just fast.

To a degree, Togepi and Blastoise also can buff special attack (unreliably) and help gauge

[keen jasper]

Makes me kinda wish SS Morty has 4/5 and 5/5 grid for offensive buffs

I think that's the only 4/5 and 5/5 grid unit I'll happily accept

[lunar meadow]

I often use Kyurem as a noble roar spammer, but rarely for ice damage. It's probably the hardest damage dealer to sustain because of the gauge devouring and needing external buffs

[keen jasper]

At least with his expanded grid, he won't need anymore external support

+2 on his TM and +1 crit on entry

[subtle forge]

Yeah and he’ll be a bit easier on gauge

[keen jasper]

And oh yeah, MGR9 on Glaciate

[lunar meadow]

At the very least, free 20 speed

[ripe onyx]

im trying to beat agatha on hard with this team, i can get it down to 1 pokemon but my current issue is raihan cant get his steel beams up fast enough to get an attack in due to move gauge

[lunar meadow]

Since you are doing Hard Mode and not Master Mode, I would recommend using Kyurem as your damage dealer for this fight

[keen jasper]

Lyra needs sun for her TM

Replace Bertha for someone who can set up sun

[lunar meadow]

Ya I'm not sure what this team is trying to do at all 😅

[ripe onyx]

im trying to learn team composition okay 😭

[keen jasper]

Prolly trying to get 15/18

[ripe onyx]

im trying to clear for the first time basically

[lunar meadow]

Haha, ok!

Well the best place to start with is the damage dealer.

That fight is weak to ice types, so if you have an ice type damage dealer then I would start there.

If you want/need to use Duraludon, then think of that Duraludon cannot do for himself and find supports that buff that. Meganium can buff him pretty well if there was sun, but not very well without sun. You also need a tank who can take the attacks to survive.

[lunar meadow]

He has 0/18, so it'll take 2 weeks anyway. That's why I think he should use Kyurem even if he has already used an ice type.

[ripe onyx]

OH I WAS MEANING TO USE HIM AGAINST LANCE

so sorry for that yeah ill look at kyurem for agatha LOL

[lunar meadow]

With Kyurem, you will want an ally that buffs special attack. I believe Probopass would be a good partner for him.

For the third slot, the best option would be a tank (something with good defenses or healing) or someone that can buff kyurem's crit a little since he can only self buff to +2 crit

[ripe onyx]

ah yeah - so would blaine work well enough as a sunny day-er?

[lunar meadow]

Blaine does help Meganium set up quicker, for sure.

Meganium is not the bulkiest of supports, so you will need to win the fight fast with that pair as your support units.

Yes, it's possible. In hard mode it might even be easy. (In master mode it would be risky)

[ripe onyx]

ah yeah - are there any good perm/story supports for raihan then?

i mainly just threw in lyra cause i had her

[toxic cobalt]

What does he need?

When you know you can filter for it

[austere quest]

Dural?

Speed and Gauge

[ripe onyx]

ah yeah duraludon

[austere quest]

Very slow

[lunar meadow]

Swanna is a fantastic free support to buff move gauge speed

[toxic cobalt]

Dunno what Lyra is doing then

[grand trout]

Prolly sycamore

[lunar meadow]

In sun, +4 speed to team

[toxic cobalt]

Seems awkward

[lunar meadow]

It is

[toxic cobalt]

Filter -> Known moves -> all+ally speed

Should get Skyla, Marley, Roxanne, and who knows what else

[austere quest]

Lyra is a Tank

[toxic cobalt]

Is she though

[austere quest]

She doesn’t provide much outside of that

[grand trout]

She is a good sun unit

[austere quest]

Especially when Raihan can thrive in Sand

[subtle forge]

Lyra is a tank for special stages

She is a noodle for physical stages

[grand trout]

At least until light screen comes off

[austere quest]

Who else brings in Sand?

[grand trout]

Bertha

[austere quest]

Brock, Old Lady, Raihan Ann?

[grand trout]

For free ones, we have acerola

[lunar meadow]

Nooooo she super is not lol.

She's a support, not a tank.
Good buffing, sun support, and honestly a strong sync move.

Not a tank. No defensive buffs, no healing, bad base bulk.

[austere quest]

And Lodge Raihan?

[grand trout]

Ingo

[ripe onyx]

i might try sycamore, raihan, bertha?

[austere quest]

True

[ripe onyx]

shes been tanking pretty well

[austere quest]

Lightscreen?

[grand trout]

Who'll buff crit

[austere quest]

She literally has a built to tank

[grand trout]

Light screen doesn't buff sp defense

[austere quest]

Grid

[grand trout]

It halves special damage + it's temporary

Oh yeah

[lunar meadow]

Light screen will buff your teams actual tank.

It is hugely gauge heavy and interrupts her main role of buffing. She cannot be reliant on that one field effect as her only survival tool, but she can use it to great effect for the whole team against an enemy sync.

[austere quest]

She’s not the best Tank though for sure especially when you have SS Morty and SS Kris

[grand trout]

I use her as a tank in sun teams

She can also induce sun on sync so there

[lunar meadow]

She's literally not built to tank 😅

I say this as someone with 36 EX supports and who uses Meganium regularly as a "tank" for my dual grass strikers team.

She has no survivability. She takes about 3 hits before dying. She exists to power up your damage dealers fast enough for her frailness to not matter, or to bring in a dual support comp.

[austere quest]

Look, I am not saying she is the best Tank or anything but she will function as a tank if needs be especially off Sun

But using her off sun isn’t that great anyways

[lunar meadow]

Support ≠ Tank though

Agreed, she definitely wants sun

[austere quest]

And I never said that

[dark osprey]

I guess what was meant was that you can manage with Lyra tanking for a CS clear especially special stages

[toxic cobalt]

You can manage with Maxie tanking for a CS clear, it isn't too high a bar

[lunar meadow]

For hard mode, anyone except Pheramosa could tank lol

But being able to survive a hit on a quick fight does not make a character a tank

[dark osprey]

Weirdly I always use Lyra with Candice

And most ice weak stages are special

Unfortunately most grass weak stages are physical

Honestly feel lyra is slightly better than Falkner in terms of survivability

[lunar meadow]

At a base value, definitely.

Swellow either relies on flinching or "Fly" dodging. Theoretically can mitigate a lot more damage and only gets hit by sync moves... But horribly unreliable in practice

It seems so weird to me that Swellow was design as an evasive tank and given no way to buff evasion. Literally just the fly window...

[dark osprey]

Also, does Falkner have any decent means of refreshing fly MP?

At least Nita has that going

[tribal agate]

he has 2 Fly MPR

20% and 30%

[dark osprey]

Oh. Will use that for gauntlet then

Don't know why I felt otherwise

[austere quest]

He doesn’t often hit it though if he wants Flinch

So you have to choose between Flinch or Fly

I believe

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Kind of. Usually flinch if going for the standard pre sync clear without denials and other sync accelerators I guess

Ah. Now I remember. The chances for fly MPR still is quite low and need to get lucky

For Nita it eventually does get replenished

[toxic cobalt]

Yay I'm done for the week

Not only is it Kanto, two opponents are specifically weak to traps

[austere fable]

Anyone else having extreme difficulty with this week 2k

[toxic cobalt]

Hey, what is the issue?

Which level are you stuck at?

[lunar meadow]

I really like Tornadus/Swellow/RayVen as a team.

Tornadus flinches and confuses so Swellow can buff, then between the flying dodges and the flinching it really doesn't matter how low it's defenses are 😅

Example of an off-type 2k clear with the enemy only even landing one hit the whole fight 😅

It's a fun team.

[toxic cobalt]

Flinch hax

[dark osprey]

A Skyla 2/5+?

Think she doesn't do much flinching at 1/5

[lunar meadow]

Yep

Since RayVen is a trash sync nuke, I'd normally sync with Swellow then Tornadus.

But I messed up timing and was winning anyway haha

So mega ray

[dark osprey]

Lol. Rare sighting of mega Ray yes

[lunar meadow]

Her flinching doesn't change much, but she does get the ability to drop enemy satk and atk

[dark osprey]

With the new paid coins bundle, people may candy more techs I guess

Such a scarce resource

[lunar meadow]

My Mawile and Naganadel are EX at 1/5 just because I wanted the zones.

Tornadus I liked the kit for so I already candied

[dark osprey]

After a while tech EXs seem more useful I guess

Even at 1/5

[lunar meadow]

I have every support EXd that is possible for me to.

But I cannot see value to EXing strikers now that I have one of every type and CS is so easy. I just wish techs didn't all feel like they were 1/5 supports or required 3/5 to nuke.

[dark osprey]

Yeah true. Recently though the techs seem to be useful at 1/5 and the innate nukes easier to setup

Wish poison iris had higher stats though

Just to compensate for that hyper beam

[lunar meadow]

Ya, Naganadel and Froslass are the two recent units they really just did dirty

Just a bit more satk on each

[dark osprey]

True. And their max nukes aren't that easy to setup too

[lunar meadow]

Froslass needs to set hail, buff a million turns, then finally start using an attack... And does 0 damage with it.

Truly the worst BP unit we got, and my favorite Pokemon 😭

Want to use someone else to support her?

Sorry, can't use abomasnow at the same time!
Delibird or a-sandslash require 3/5 and are limited as to when they set hail.

Hope you like Eiscue... Who needs entirely different support

[dark osprey]

Or in desperation tech lapras

[onyx ice]

I use her, she's not that bad

[swift swan]

soon you'll be able to use abomasnow and froslass at the same time

[dark osprey]

Oh yeah

[lunar meadow]

I can't wait for Samurott and Mightyena finally. For the memes.

And I wish they gave may a Sceptile from the lodge so she could solo hoenn trio 😅

[swift swan]

can't wait to see the full eggmon runs

[dark osprey]

Oh on that note, would Cobalion master passive help Solgaleo focus blast?

[swift swan]

no. it boosts the Fighting theme skill

not a fighting type move

[lunar meadow]

It took 4 sync buffs for Froslass to finally win the fight on type.

I couldn't see what blizzard was hitting for on crit, but it was less than offtype Zygarde does with one sync buff.

Like... She's awful. Even buffed by someone else

[swift swan]

Well I wouldn't compare her to Zygarde but I see your point

[full mesa]

I used Ghetsis/BPCandice/Sycamore. It was a long fight since crobat has a huge hp but blizzard/glaciate did their work at the end.

[swift swan]

I went SS Kris/Ghetsis/Skyla. took out the mid with 2 glaciates give or take, and nuked on 2nd sync

[hidden ore]

Froslass joined non ex Glacia as the laughing stock unit?

[swift swan]

not yet

there's Norman as our laughing stock at least

[onyx ice]

It buffs also sunsteel strike, but solgaleo doesn't boost the master passive

[onyx ice]

I used 6ex SC jasmine + Pryce + bp candice

[swift swan]

It just buffs attack of all allies by a flat 10% but if there are no other fighting mons on the team, there are no additional buffs. and it doesn't buff focus blast specifically. just a general 10% on attacks (this includes moves, sync moves, max moves, buddy moves) moves

[onyx ice]

Presync clear, but without -2 sync countdown

[onyx ice]

Yes what I said, however it doesn't boost sync and max moves i think)

[swift swan]

ah right

only regular moves

[austere quest]

I wish I had every Steven Alt

Steven/Gen 1-5 Protags/Blue

My favourites

[ivory pagoda]

yoink

Now im part of the thread

Gateway to incredible sadness

[austere quest]

CS good

I love EXing every Week

[swift swan]

CS good

I love getting more because I'm seriously running low

I'm at a point where I have more than

[onyx ice]

I exed most supports

Not much tech and strikers however

Probably i will ex Kris

[full mesa]

How? She is quite bulky and you team can't drop team apart from glaciate.

[swift swan]

Ghetsis noble roar 3 times, SS Kris syncs, Glaciate with +3 SMUN, another non-boosted glaciate, noble roar again because agatha had x sp atk all, 2nd sync

heck I was only nuking at -6 attack and -2 sp attack thanks to agatha buffing herself again

non-EX ghetsis btw

[onyx ice]

My best ice type damage dealer is still SS Steven

(not summer)

[full mesa]

So you had to do another sync against her. I understood that you took down crobat with only 2 attacks.

[swift swan]

Well yeah, I doubt Ghetsis can clear on 1st sync but it might be worth a try

[full mesa]

Nah. No need.

[onyx ice]

He can, but not my favourite clear

[trail smelt]

What?

[onyx ice]

I meant that Deoxys off-type still does more damage than my ice types on type

Deoxys feels like the master mode cheat code

[dark osprey]

Yeah. The -6 speed and attack while max buffing himself is kinda hard

At least the power boost will take care of the buffing part

[full mesa]

Bianca/Lucian/SStevenEx combo?

[onyx ice]

SS Steven ex mesprit anniversary may

[full mesa]

I don't have Anni May to try that.

[onyx ice]

Bianca is fine

[full mesa]

I know. But if I had Anni May I could use one with Gio and one with SStevenEx. 2 op off-type teams are always better than one.

[onyx ice]

You can run Giovanni without psychic terrain

I guess Giovanni wants bede as psychic terrain setter, for spdef debuffs

[mellow linden]

Bianca has at least decent Sp. Def. debuff potential, if you can manage the gauge for both to spam Psychic then she and Giovanni should be at least reasonable for Sp. Def. debuffs

[full mesa]

I don't have ex/mega Gio yet. I'm waiting for the return of his event.

[onyx ice]

Yes i mean for sync nuke, 6ex mega mewtwo

Normally i run Gio + Lillie + bede

-4 spdef for 1st sync is good enough with psychic terrain

Maybe even -5 if he lands a spdef drop by himself

[full mesa]

Gio + Lillie. Never thought of that. I'll add Sabrina to the combo for the speed boosts.

[hidden ore]

Is Archie good for Lance’s stage?

[onyx ice]

Yes it is

[hidden ore]

Debating where to use Urshifu and him, want both separately

[onyx ice]

I used that

[hidden ore]

But idk who pairs best with Archie

Used him with Hop & Dawn (cuz she had vigi) and failed

[onyx ice]

I like running Siebold with him

Archie nuke isn't great, but Siebold one is good

Generally Roxanne + Archie + Siebold

[hidden ore]

I have Siebold, that’s Clawitzer one?

But he not maxed

[onyx ice]

Yes clawtizer

[hidden ore]

What params did u use?

[onyx ice]

Not a big fan of Octillery

[onyx ice]

Generally i run full offense

All + attack, regular shields ,no status, no stat drops, both power on hit, healing down, Regen, sync - 2, gauge - 2, strength 3

[hidden ore]

I’m usually a 2k post sync runner

[onyx ice]

I never do post sync

Unless i want to use an unit with really poor DPS

No reason to run defensive parameters with the sheer power of units like Archie

Plus i want to see that damn twister the least possible

This Bruno is probably the stage that i consider one of the most annoying for my standards

[full mesa]

Yes. Too much hp. Luckily MayEx/Cyrus combo does it.

[onyx ice]

It's more that i hate twister

[lunar meadow]

I always do post sync, with STR parameters

[onyx ice]

Always forget that Cyrus is a top tier water dps

More because it doesn't popup when I search for water

[full mesa]

I hate that feature. Secondary types don't pop up, secondary effects of passive or grids don't pop up.

[onyx ice]

Finally i managed to get a 100% consistent run against bruno

6ex dojo Gloria + BP Clermont + elio is the most consistent presync team that i can think against bruno

[sharp leaf]

Well I somehow screwed myself into getting stuck on bruno with sp atk reduction

I've only now learned you can't reset mid run

[mellow linden]

Eh, so long as you’re making sure to boost your damage-dealer’s crit it basically means there’s just no round parameter

[sharp leaf]

Oh, that's right

[sharp leaf]

Any advice for bruno? I've been trying for 30 minutes now to no avail (I am bad)

[lunar meadow]

He is weak to water this week.

Do you have Palkia, Swampert, or other water types?

[sharp leaf]

Yeah, I've been trying to use them as my main damage but my other dudes just get wiped

Well, I've been trying to use them separately, not together ofc

[lunar meadow]

For 2k master mode?

Either one alone should be capable of it.

I'm partial to Swampert, but Palkia hits hard with hydro pump

[sharp leaf]

What supports would you recommend? I've been trying to fit sabrina in but sometimes she literally gets one-shotted off rip

[full mesa]

May/CyrusEx/Roxanne is a combo. Or May/CyrusEx/SSBlue

[lunar meadow]

Sabrina is a fantastic support for either one, but should not be tanking.

Bruno is almost exclusively physical attacks, and Alakazam has 0 physical defense

[sharp leaf]

Ahh gotcha

[lunar meadow]

You will want a support that has physical defense buffs, like Blastoise, Mortmagius, Swanna, etc

Alakazam, Mortmagius, Swampert was a pretty easy 2k clear.

But I have EX Swampert, so it's hard to prove for Non-EX team

[sharp leaf]

Damn, I just got it with May, SSBlue, and Sabrina

It was as close as it could get though

[lunar meadow]

Congrats!

[sharp leaf]

Thanks for the direction

[lunar meadow]

Ya, it's important to identify the difference between physical and special.

Alakazam is kind of bulky on special defense but absolutely no physical defense.

She has reflect, which can help your team survive an enemy physical sync move, but it's not enough to make her work as a tank against it

[sharp leaf]

Yeah I feel like I get two tunnel visioned and tilted to think clearly about what the issue could be

Plus I couldn't decide what I wanted my non damage dealers to do, since the area tips say to trap them, but also the other team was buffing its stats, but also I had to boost crit rate because of the special damage reduction

[tired sleet]

A lot of the times those tips won’t be too useful if it costs you using a good unit

There are some stages where they take less damage unless you inflict a status tho, but this isn’t one of them

[swift swan]

CS tips are decent at best and laughably questionable at worst

especially their recommended units part

[trail smelt]

Pull Raihan from WHAT BANNER TIPS?

LOL

[tired sleet]

Time travel

[toxic cobalt]

Tips different from the stage details though, which can have merit

[meager agate]

i had to reset an unusual amount of times to make this work

cause my steven is 1/5 and flinch timing is literally everything

[toxic cobalt]

Double flinching.

[meager agate]

basically, there are situations where SP3 is the only way forward

[toxic cobalt]

That team had enough speed?

[zealous karma]

3K?

Oo I should try 3K now that my Gloria is Ex

[meager agate]

3K??

we’re still doing 10k runs right

did i miss something

[zealous karma]

Ye I thought it was like a challenge run or smth lel

I saw double flinch and assumed lel

[meager agate]

oh nah lol just 2K

and to auroch’s point no i didn’t have enough speed

but thorton flinch is guaranteed on round 1 so

i guess it was stall? kinda

[zealous karma]

Oof lel

[meager agate]

in that by the end i was using TMs to wear down the sync counter

[toxic cobalt]

Just dump Thornton and add a speed buffer

Probably much easier

[meager agate]

in that regard i am challenging myself tbf

[zealous karma]

Or even someone like Kukui

Aoe def debuff which I assume Steven liked

[toxic cobalt]

Iron head flinch should be very reliable r1

[meager agate]

oh it is, my self challenge is “all ontype”

[zealous karma]

Ohh a mono type run

I also assumed that

[meager agate]

yeah

which is making lorelei hell although that’s probably because i’m trying to use ghetsis and not my ex hala

[toxic cobalt]

Ghetsis should be able to clear quite easily

[meager agate]

all ice team remember

[zealous karma]

Grid boost isn’t our right just EX?

[meager agate]

no speed buffers besides support jynx for me right now

[zealous karma]

That team would be so slow

[meager agate]

and that’s just not enough

[zealous karma]

Ice is oddly slow in Poma

When I feel in main series they’re not that slow

[toxic cobalt]

That’s a support issue not a Ghetsis issue

[meager agate]

that is just facts

[zealous karma]

I imagine ghetsus support jinx and Candice would work

[meager agate]

ironically i’m trying to use victor for the first time as well and i also am running into the exact same problem LMFAO

[zealous karma]

Might want cold snap ghetsus and follow through Candice

[toxic cobalt]

I haven’t looked at my smoochies yet how are they?

[zealous karma]

I ran that for an F2P run

[zealous karma]

Oh I love using victor but if I’m not using him with sslyra and@PSerena he feels so sluggish

[meager agate]

can’t go wrong with a sp. atk buffer for ghetsis, unfortunately +2 speed is straight up not enough

[toxic cobalt]

There really isn’t much ice support is there

[zealous karma]

PBea

And that’s like pretty much it

[meager agate]

melony is a support in role

[zealous karma]

If you want to count HoliNessa having peprally sure

Ohh Mekong

[meager agate]

and if i wasn’t hoarding gems for kalos arc i’d probably consider pal bea

[zealous karma]

Based 🦑

I cannot wait jusy for galar arc for hop EX

But then if I ever do another no Ex run

I’ll have no physical crit buffing supports

[meager agate]

now if i was a masochist i’d roll for glacia fortuitous giving her speed every time and maybe that’d do something

most likely not

[zealous karma]

Ohhh glacies

You could give her fast track lucky skill

And run ghetsus and stuff

Glacia has a ice skating or whatever the faster gauge in hail is

So Ghetsus Glacia Candice might actually work

[meager agate]

that sounds like hell

i’ll think about it

cause honestly if push comes to shove melony has sing, time to sleep chain

[zealous karma]

Well kf@you have melody id tru her

Double@ support ghetsus

And freezing with glaca

[meager agate]

sorry did i say lorelei this whole time i meant agatha

lorelei uses the ice types lmfao

ive been eating dinner for the last 10 minutes my mind isn’t on differentiation mode

[zealous karma]

Ice week Agatha is my least favorite one

[reef garnet]

okay I know this week is easy but I'm struggling to win with this team (2k pre sync params) I can nuke mid but the sides end up killing me after. Blaine feels pretty useless outside of setting sun which Erica can already do so I was thinking maybe replace him with someone who can buff their defenses?

[meager agate]

not even because ice weak agatha is the strongest

she still recoils herself post sync and that’s like 7k right there lol

[toxic cobalt]

Who is tanking here?

Are you getting any flinches off with Hilbert?

[meager agate]

hilbert’s targeted first so i hope it’s him lmfao

he can grid into shielded, that’s all ya get lol

[toxic cobalt]

I find his tanking pretty average

I’d take Blaine out and provide a tank of defence buffer

Erika can set sun as she doesn’t need to buff and flinch can secure a quadqueue

[meager agate]

he’s a good tank for gridding into vigilance because now i can slap status/interference immunity on him depending on what the situation calls for

but that’s also any tank with gridded/passive vigilance

[toxic cobalt]

He’s not protecting the others though which is an issue for sides

[meager agate]

also i don’t think lorelei inflicts status this week?

i think they’re all icy wind users

at least two of them

idk lol

[reef garnet]

oki I'll try this, thank you!

[swift swan]

I appreciate the stage details sometimes. For legendary arenas at least. Not a fan of the stage details of CS

[toxic cobalt]

They’re usually meaningless but this week they helped me with Blue!

Taking more damage from trap than recovering from gradual healing is just ridiculous

[swift swan]

I wonder why

looks like burn stalling Blue is easy

[toxic cobalt]

Well he refused to be duoed

[onyx ice]

Just used silver against blue

The sync just takes him out

[dark osprey]

Silver SEUN sync can take out most fire weak stages first sync i believe

[hidden ore]

Is there a list with clears for this week?

Need to get inspiration

[toxic cobalt]

No list but you can filter in #1010274591601598555

[bleak eagle]

any round order this eek?

i dont rlly think i have use for any of the rounds atm, beside the second

[swift swan]

Nothing very important

[bleak eagle]

indeed, i just made some scuffedness and got the 10k clear

[full mesa]

Enjoy your last brain-dead clear for this month.

[swift swan]

dang it bug-weak lucian first week?

[full mesa]

Yep. Do you feel the pressure yet?

[swift swan]

lucian puts pressure on me almost every week

wonder if I can bruteforce Lucian with SS Hilbert and Alder. most likely yes

let's see if I can presync with them then

I got no bug zone sadly (if I had I wouldn't be constantly complaining about wise entry x2 bug-weak lucian)

[full mesa]

I'll use my SCEmmetEx probably. Also poison stall is an option. Against Sinnoh I'll use everything.

[swift swan]

poison stall has always been an option but man I haven't used it in ages

[full mesa]

Neither most of old players but it's Sinnoh...

[lunar meadow]

I once did a week of 5 full poison stall 10k.

Never again.

[swift swan]

oooh, did you post it on stage clears somewhere? I wanna see the teams

[toxic cobalt]

#1011675077764456519 message

[swift swan]

[lunar meadow]

I did, but my thread seems to not load when I try to click on it.

It was "mono-type player mostly"

My teams had a lot of crossover with Aurochs

@toxic cobalt
Any idea why my thread doesn't load when I click on it?

[toxic cobalt]

There are only so many good poison units

What is your thread?

[lunar meadow]

"Mono-type player, mostly" I think I called it

I can still search it in the clears section

I've tried to continue updating it but it won't let me

[toxic cobalt]

Well you should be able to go back into it, that's a weird bug. I have posted in it so it should be alive now.

[swift swan]

If you don't mind the clutter, you can follow your own thread so it always shows up

[pine spruce]

maybe try reloading discord? sometimes its just it being buggy...

[lunar meadow]

I did lol.

I don't know why it won't pull up for me. It's been like this a couple weeks so I stopped posting 😅

I can open other people's threads

[toxic cobalt]

Are you doing it from mobile?

[lunar meadow]

Yes.

But I just unfollowed from the search menu and then reloaded it and it worked. I have no idea why.

Literally it was loading every other post but mine.
I wonder if it was a bug relating to following it

[toxic cobalt]

Mobile

[cinder coyote]

Why does blue’s eggegutor have heal over time

Or eggegutor

However you spell

Exeggutor

Yeah

[swift swan]

Did you take the gradual healing parameter?

[olive wagon]

https://streamable.com/iiv92n

Stuck on what teams I should pick for this week’s CSMM, any recommendations? I’ll be using the standard 850 parameters as well.

[lunar meadow]

Grass

Water
Palkia does pretty incredible water type damage. Especially with rain up. I think I also saw Kyogre.

Ice
Kyurem is a free EX option, easy to win with, but wants allies to buff it.
Alternatively, if you EX your Crabominable (I see it's 3/5) it's basically capable of soloing a 2000 point clear. You just need a support to get hit while he's buffing.

Steel

Fire
Charizard with sun, I see yours is EX and 3/5, so if you could buff his physical attack and set sun, he can easily get you 1500+ points.

@olive wagon
Your scrolling is too fast. I can't see what you have...

But I do see some good units. You could easily be going for 1500 on most fights.

[olive wagon]

Oh, should I post the video again and scroll slower?

[lunar meadow]

Can you just take a couple screenshots?

[olive wagon]

Alright, will do

[lunar meadow]

It's so much easier to compare them all side by side with still images

[olive wagon]

Here you go

[lunar meadow]

@olive wagon

Omg ya, I see easy 2k team potential haha.

Grass:
Either go for Leafeon or Venusaur.
Leafeon/Mo-Oh/Meganium is a pretty sweet combination, but since I threw Mo-Oh somewhere else you could rock Venusaur with something like Alakazam to buff it and a tank like Zamazenta.

Steel:
Nidoking, Swanna, A-Marowak

Ice:
Kyurem, Rotom, Yamper (speed and crit buffs, healing)

Water:
Kyogre, Swampert, Probopass

Fire:
Redzard, Mo-Oh, Any attack buffer

[olive wagon]

Thank you!

What order should I be doing this in?

[lunar meadow]

Round 1 I think would affect kyurem's chance to freeze, if you grid for it.

Steel on round 2 is good, because that modifier buffs sync buff effects and you will be using your support EX buffs instead of syncing with Nidoking. Nidoking sync is probably worse than just iron tailing with support sync.

Round 1 or 3 should be the Venusaur fight.

That leaves water for fight 4

I recommend you challenge yourself and go for 1500 points on each fight.

You definitely have the units to accomplish that. The grass type team is the one I'm least confident in. But it should still be fine

Oh, you could use Flygon to set sun for Charizard team and move Mo-Oh to a Leafeon grass team.

I don't have Flygon so I forget his kit all the time, but it gives you a solid pre-sync buffer and weather setter.

[olive wagon]

I actually was gonna do this CSMM to ex Anniv Raihan/Flygon lol

[lunar meadow]

I don't think he's a good EX

His actual damage and nuke isn't great, but he's a really good teammate for others.

But his ex costume does look good

[olive wagon]

I mainly did it for the outfit tbh

[lunar meadow]

How is the run going?

[olive wagon]

Just completed it, went smoothly!

Thanks for your help

[lunar meadow]

@olive wagon

Awesome!

How many points did you go for, in the end?

[long thicket]

So, it's that time again...

For Lorelei, I can try out my 3/5 Victor, but I might have to seek for a grid for him first.

[mellow linden]

If he’s EX it might not matter a whole lot, tbh

[long thicket]

He's not.

[mellow linden]

Ah. Yeah, might matter somewhat then. Victor’s big niche is that if he’s EX he can back-to-back AoE nuke with Sync -> Max Move

[long thicket]

Is there an infinite zone stage this week?
Might be useful to save Celebi for it?

[mellow linden]

Sadly no

[long thicket]

Alright, that's okay.

Or I could stick to Brendan, who doesn't lower his stats.

[mellow linden]

Victor doesn’t lower his stats afaik

Brendan would if he doesn’t have Dauntless

[long thicket]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/24200/81200?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFEhUkJikuMTM0

Did this.
And bad phrasing on my part, I meant I got Brendan that skill in the past.

[mellow linden]

Ah

Knowing very little about Victor’s grid overall, that seems like a decent one

[long thicket]

I don't have 5 support EXes yet, which might be a basic for this mode.
I have Rosa, Lillie, Sonia and Piers.
I can spend spirits to unlock Aaron's, though.

[mellow linden]

Depends on the teams you end up running, tbh

[long thicket]

Alright.
Going for Post-sync 2k with Lorelei.

Okay, not bad, but I lack a little something.

[mellow linden]

I’ll help out more as soon as I’m able, rn I gotta drop off for a little bit

[long thicket]

Don't be in a hurry for me.

I'm not too sure what I did differently, but I ended up winning by just a little, replacing "no status" and "attack and special +1" (both 50) with "HP + 2" (100)

Might be forced to continue later.

[mellow linden]

Alright, I’m back. Congrats on the victory!

[sick inlet]

Oooh we getting fire gear

Finally

[trail smelt]

Burn everything to the ground better

[hidden ore]

2k MM round 2 (did Bruno in r1) and I still have no idea how to tackle Agatha

[toxic cobalt]

Why Hilbert?

Ghetsis can clear if you go debuff strats and give him speed support

Crit and spatk support helps too if possible

[hidden ore]

Rebuff and wanted to test him out

Maybe params are problem idk

I aim for 10k MM

[toxic cobalt]

Is ice one of his types?

If so that’s fine but pick either him or Ghetsis

Or use Ghetsis to debuff you don’t seem to be doing that

[hidden ore]

Yes, ice is

And what support to use?

[toxic cobalt]

What stats does SS Hilb need?

[swift swan]

He maxes out his sp atk and crit in a total of 4 turns

[toxic cobalt]

Four? No good.

Falkner support

[swift swan]

Falkner/Ghetsis/SS Hilbert can work if it's a Ghetsis nuke + SS Hilbert DPS comp I'm sure

Can't wait for that glaciate mgr9

[toxic cobalt]

Sounds presyncable

[hidden ore]

Ghetsis EX?

[toxic cobalt]

Any Ghetsis

Grid for double drop noble roar, pecking order, and the sync nodes

[hidden ore]

Mine isn’t exed

[toxic cobalt]

That’s fine

[hidden ore]

He needs those gold powerups because of my mistake in the past (yes, legexchange)

[toxic cobalt]

Ooooh I see

Still, I would try

You probably post sync

Just noble roar everything

[hidden ore]

Hmm need to get grid for Falkner & Ghetsis

[toxic cobalt]

Ghetsis yes, Falkner can try without but it does help

[hidden ore]

Hmm what to replace in post sync

No stat reduction means Noble Roar not working

[toxic cobalt]

Honestly add in gradual healing and take away the atk up

[hidden ore]

Aiming for 10k

[keen jasper]

Your Ghetsis isn't EX-ex

[toxic cobalt]

??? How is this helping?

[hidden ore]

I want to do something without EX ghetsis (already explained why I can’t have him now)

[keen jasper]

Hmmm ok

[toxic cobalt]

Did the gradual heal work?

[hidden ore]

I’ll try now

I’m fixing it rn

[keen jasper]

Is that a hybrid build?

[hidden ore]

Don’t know, did it randomly

Need fixing

[toxic cobalt]

No point doing cold snap as you’re never Glaciating

[hidden ore]

This?

@toxic cobalt what grid do you use?

[toxic cobalt]

I would try this

Well spdef on top is fine the point is more not doing mgr

Ideally It works

I don’t know how fast SS Hilbert is

[hidden ore]

Ok, now I’m setting params

So gradual healing instead of no stat reduction?

No vigi on Falkner

Tried but it gave me Dauntless nearly everytime on gold

[toxic cobalt]

Then hope for no crits

[hidden ore]

Now idk whats wrong

My Genekek has CS2

[toxic cobalt]

I’m confused why Xatu isn’t debuffer

Debuffed*

[hidden ore]

Whats the right plan for this?

I don’t know if I gave them too much attack

[toxic cobalt]

Plan is to buff Hilbert in the first round and the second round just hit mid till it crumbles

Meanwhile Ghetsis should get everyone to -6-6 and Falkner can fish for flinches

[keen jasper]

Almost damage capped the left without Def. drops, damage capped on Blue but didn't crit on the right

[long thicket]

Alright, so...

For Bruno, I have Archie, which I plan to EX.
Heard May's sync is pretty good on this, but she's not EX while my Wallace is.

[keen jasper]

May's Muddy Water DPS is more than enough

[formal vigil]

I probably still use may since she can re apply rain

Plus with archie will be a easy clear

[toxic cobalt]

Archie doesn’t even need mays help

[main crow]

boosted Silver my beloved

[swift swan]

I presynced with SS Kris/Skyla/non-EX Ghetsis so i'm sure with EX it's doable, especially there's Hilbert for rebuff

[lunar meadow]

How many sync buffs?

[keen jasper]

Only EX SS Morty

So 2

[lunar meadow]

So 2?

Damn, that's pretty good lol

[keen jasper]

Max HP and offensive params, no strength

That sync can deal up to probably almost 50k with screen

[lunar meadow]

I always go full STR params for post sync, so I never seen the max numbers 😅

[long thicket]

Kinda clutched Bruno, but did it with Ethan's water move and damage, May, and Suicune.

[swift swan]

I rarely do full strength anymore

Presync or bust

[formal vigil]

Same

[lunar meadow]

Full strength is basically fail proof lol.

I only ever use monotype now as my challenge

[swift swan]

Whirlpool SS Ethan

With ss kris there you're much better using aeroblast anyway

[long thicket]

For Ice, I might use one of my Support EX to help.

[lunar meadow]

Crabominable EX can basically solo ice pre-sync with his nuke.

With STR params, he needs a second cycle

[long thicket]

Not EX, sadly.

[lunar meadow]

Probably second best striker to EX from gen pool.

Sirfetchd being 1

But Kyurem is the only other non-limited ice type worth using

[long thicket]

Worth using Kyurem?

Hala and Ghetsis don't go well together...

[lunar meadow]

Ya, Kyurem is worth using. His damage is solid

Lol ya, not together

[formal vigil]

Candice (abonsnow) is good too

[long thicket]

Oh yes, her sync under hail is very good.

[lunar meadow]

Neither Crabominable nor Kyurem ever work on 2 damage teams.

Kyurem's grid expansion might finally have enough move gauge support for it though.

I wonder if it'll finally make Dewgong/Kyurem playable.

In theory that team should be super strong, but they don't have the speed to work right now

[long thicket]

Is it available already?

[lunar meadow]

No, another like 10 days.

Otherwise I'm sure we would see a lot of people trying it

We might have ice-weak Bertha the week it becomes available

[hidden ore]

Hmm
And what else to replace?

[keen jasper]

HP +2

[toxic cobalt]

Hmm? Gradual healing is 150

Get rid of atk up

[long thicket]

Fighting specialist: uses a Rock type
Ghost specialist: uses a Poison type

[hidden ore]

https://youtu.be/6fgOT05oXIs at the end are params @keen jasper @toxic cobalt

[keen jasper]

Right off the bat you didn't triple queue

[keen jasper]

And why did you use moves when your sync is ready?

And you didn't use your first sync

[long thicket]

Yeah, I might need a good support to go with the Ghetsis/Candice duo.

[hidden ore]

Wanted to deal some dmg 😅

[hidden ore]

Are params okay?

[keen jasper]

The params don't matter, but the way you queued your moves tho...

[tribal agate]

problem aren't the params

your gameplay is really bad, to put it bluntly

and in this game, it's the most important aspect

you queue your moves too late, you got your first sync when normally you should have gotten your second
let me get the guide about that real quick

[keen jasper]

That's exactly what I mean to say

[tribal agate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855438548684374045/1017845793866141746/unknown.png

this + check the video on the last pin in this channel and look the rotation of moves listed on the right of the screen

you have to realize that the less moves you queue the less damage you deal and the more you give the enemy to pummel you

the entire game functions around sync, so if you delay your sync by making input mistakes, you're killing your chances at victory

TLDR is : always have 3 moves queue'd before each enemy 1 move, always
then stop queuing when sync is about to get to cooldown 0 and queue sync first then 2 remaining moves for your next cycle

[keen jasper]

I remember on a video where someone fully set up Guzma's First Impression, funniest shit I've seen

[tribal agate]

yeah that was me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Ls1lvf6oY

[keen jasper]

Oh it's you

No, I remember someone else back then

[tribal agate]

i posted it on reddit way back then, this is a more recent upload for YT
i used another platform at the time, streamable

[long thicket]

Aerodactyl just casually one-shotting my three Pokemon.

Would EX Steven help in this stage?

[keen jasper]

Did you raise your defense?

[long thicket]

I have Hop, so I assume so.

[swift swan]

wow can we have a bot command for this

[trail smelt]

EX would help Steven a lot yes.

[swift swan]

it would help but I wouldn't say it's necessary

And I wouldn't recommend EXing a pair just to beat a stage

I messed up my queueing when I fought Lance this week. at max defense, Steven survived Lance's sync with hyper offensive params

[hidden ore]

https://youtu.be/mOYHBqhWqL0 @keen jasper @tribal agate sorry for ping, tried diff params and what could be improved (got messy with Falkner’s moves and buffs)

[tribal agate]

no problem

so for starters again

https://i.imgur.com/bVqzKD4.png

notice at the very start

you queue'd one move before they queue'd air slash

that's a detriment

i know the window is sadly tight in some fights

but you basically have to enter the fight knowing which buttons you're gonna press

and quickly tap all 3

the reason for this is that the sync cooldown is 9
you want to do (move queued) 3 > 3 > 3 > sync, 2 > repeat
when your sync cooldown is at 3, you should have 3 moves queue'd and wait for them to execute then queue your sync
https://i.imgur.com/Iyh5l10.png

however it's progress already

this is important because with proper queueing, you play and deal more damage, meaning you can kill the middle before it syncs

[subtle forge]

Yeah I think your main problem is just you’re not queuing 3 moves at a time. Also try to press the sync move button as soon as you can so you don’t waste turns not decreasing the countdown

[hidden ore]

Maybe I should change positions too?
Not targets, just positions of pairs for hand

Or does it not matter?

[tribal agate]

it doesn't matter

[keen jasper]

Being fast and decisive is important in this game even if the speed is really slow

[tribal agate]

oh also @hidden ore another thing

those parameters i'm not a fan of

lemme write down the better ones

well actually

[hidden ore]

2k MM and those hits are annoying

[tribal agate]

if it's post sync I GUESS it works and Falkner isn't really bulky...

[hidden ore]

Tried post sync

Who instead of Falkner?

[tribal agate]

yeah that's the one you're running but i always personally run pre-sync parameters from the pins

well i don't know who you have but uh

well special crit buffers are rare if you wanna ramp up Hilbert

[hidden ore]

I've thought of Morty

[tribal agate]

SS Morty?

[hidden ore]

yup

EX'ed

[tribal agate]

waste for that team imo

losing sun you could use on another team

also another thing

using Fly with Falkner screws up the sync cooldown

it's detrimental

Falkner has amazing buffs but he's not an easy pair to play sadly

i'd replace Falkner for someone who can take the hits

lemme check

[hidden ore]

My favs supps to use are Polt Lillie & Morty and Hop plus Xerneas

[tribal agate]

do you have Elesa and Rotom?

Pot Lillie also works here

[hidden ore]

YES

I have Rotom

[tribal agate]

imo SC Lillie is a better choice

will ramp up both Hilbert and Ghetsis

is she 3/5 or not?

[hidden ore]

Yes, Lillie is 3/5

[tribal agate]

perfect yeah

[hidden ore]

EX'ed

[tribal agate]

then slap Lillie there and make sure you immediately queue her TM, Hilbert's TM, Noble Roar

then you continue like that and can just adapt gauge with TMs

Hilbert will get ramped up so one TM use only is enough, make sure you spam techno blast afterwards

Ghetsis if gauge cannot keep up, use his TM

[hidden ore]

Who should I target first?

[tribal agate]

mid

destroy mid

sync with SC Lillie first

sides should not be a threat with her spdef buffs later, and Hilbert by that time will one/two shot them

[hidden ore]

Her grid

I feel something here needs fix?

[tribal agate]

yeah make 10000% sure she has critical squad tile and all ramped up (plus the refresh but not needed)

you can do 2 Lilile TM into Astonish or 3 TM if you play refresh
do NOT use Dire Hit + with Hilbert, just one TM and then full Techno Blast
make sure Lillie queues before Hilbert

[hidden ore]

Fixed it!

[tribal agate]

now it's all up to gameplay

[hidden ore]

now the params 😅

[tribal agate]

imo

what you can do

replace no stat reduction > max hp 2
replace no status condition > atk & spatk +1 (optional)

here i'm gonna write down a rotation for you

[swift swan]

What's status for

[tribal agate]

tealillie can paralyze as a counter

its niche, but can work

[swift swan]

Agatha has lessen paralysis 8

[tribal agate]

ah yeah then screw that

[swift swan]

And 23k Hp, apparently

So I don't think an extra Hp 2 is a good idea

[tribal agate]

it shouldn't be an issue at all

this is SS Hilbert

i do those params with way shittier chars

[swift swan]

True

[toxic cobalt]

Yes I think worrying about parameters is a distraction

[swift swan]

Fair enough. Perfecting the queue matters more

[tribal agate]

Make sure Ghetsis has double drop

Turn 1 : TeaTime / Metal Sound / Noble Roar
Turn 2 : TeaTime / Metal Sound / Noble Roar or Mwahaha
Turn 3 : Astonish / Techno Blast / Mwahaha or Noble Roar
Turn 4 : Sync / Techno Blast / Mwahaha
Turn 5 : xSpDef or Astonish / Techno Blast / Adapt Gauge
Turn 6 : xSpDef or Astonish / Techno Blast / Adapt Gauge

[hidden ore]

I wonder if there was a run with ALL params

[tribal agate]

something like this probably
again, first turn you have to queue super fast before the enemy does

[swift swan]

There was

[hidden ore]

ghetsis has double drop

[swift swan]

Against Alder, you can take all params for 4.3k and flinchlock the whole stage but it's so boring, like watching paint dry

[tribal agate]

if Lillie could drop that mga it'd be perfect
i'm not 100% sure on the rotation as i don't have SS Hilbert, but on paper it should look ok, worth a shot

[swift swan]

Dreamy, typing Mwahaha with a straight face: 😐

[tribal agate]

[swift swan]

Idk how speedy ss hilbert and sc lillie is, but astonish followed directly by a 4 gauge move when you're taking ally move gauge -2 might be tricky. Netta can probably switch Ghetsis and Hilbert's turns around if gauge isn't enough yet

[tribal agate]

i'm feeling like there might be gauge issues cause Ghetsis is a meh in that team

yeah my thoughts as well

[swift swan]

Can't wait for glaciate mgr9

[hidden ore]

ghetsis as last target?

[swift swan]

I don't care if ghetsis doesn't get more multipliers. His new grid is QoL feature, makes my life easier

[tribal agate]

i'd say Hilbert as last

frankly i'd replace Ghetsis for anything else if it doesn't work out

Hilbert is strong enough to on-type solo

[hidden ore]

Zeus mice?

[tribal agate]

Ghetsis serves no purpose, his debuffs are irrelevant

who?

[swift swan]

The rats

[swift swan]

as a Ghetsis truther this pains me

[tribal agate]

well i meant in that team 😂

SC Lillie is pretty bulky and has sustain (oh also forgot to add potions if things get in crisis)
SS Hilbert will nuke down stuff

so really third can be just a filler for defenses, gauge or whatever

we're talking rebuff on Kanto CS that thing is gonna blow up

if you have Lucian he can be a nice third

makes SS Hilbert focus more on Techno Blast while Lucian debuffs with 1 gauge

[swift swan]

Is it a 3/5 ss hilbert?

[tribal agate]

nope 1/5

[swift swan]

My image for that team is, if hilbert is only 1/5, he serves as DPS while Ghetsis nukes (and his nuke damage will be boosted by the rebuff)

[tribal agate]

don't think the nuke is necessary, Hilbert dealt 5k2 dmg pre-sync without sync buffs and spdef down drops (also no SEUP)

the issue was the user has trouble queueing moves

[hidden ore]

THANK YOU!

I DID it!

[tribal agate]

sorry 5k6

Hilbert is busted

even at 1/5

and that's utilizing half his kit, otherwise you pump that to 10k

[swift swan]

Hmmm true. If they got the move execution down, it doesn't matter who's nuking

[hidden ore]

Forgot to record

[tribal agate]

all ends well, but make sure you practice the queueing i showed you earlier
gratz!

[hidden ore]

I’m just a casual ftp girl that enjoys this game, so I’m looking to improve. Thank you so much for patience especially

And for helping

[tribal agate]

also bear with me something important real quick

https://i.imgur.com/25TSYKE.png pre-sync parameters with Max HP2 instead of No Stat Reduction
https://i.imgur.com/58N2e0U.png post sync parameters you used (which includes no stat reduction)

the difference is basically 2k more HP in yours but also 700 more atk & spatk and that's quite a lot

if i remove the Max HP and put back No Stat Reduction in mine (top screenshot) i get the same HP, but 700 less atk & spatk lol
you do have the power on hits activated in the first one obviously, but it's not as troublesome from experience
just a bit of trivia

[swift swan]

Power on hit always feel trivial ngl

I love that param

[tribal agate]

[swift swan]

Well nice job netta, and good night to you and dreamy bye for now

[long thicket]

Hop EX will come in handy...

[tribal agate]

have a good night!! take care

[hidden ore]

Good night! And thanks!

[long thicket]

Trying him and EX Piers together.

Also, I would've EXed Steven sooner or later anyway.

Hop is hitting harder than Steven.

[hidden ore]

Now it should be easier, and then there's Lorelei

might do her on r3

[long thicket]

I always come close, but I'm always missing something.

And that's probably Marnie.

Alright, I did it, but it wasn't pleasant.

EX Steven, Hop, EX Sonia.

[keen jasper]

https://youtu.be/TAiT5HI5rLQ
Here's my demonstration on how Silver dealt max damage

I'm starting to love Silver more and more now

[hidden ore]

Lance or Lorelei for 3rd round?

[trail smelt]

This week’s parameter order isn’t particularly important

[hidden ore]

The urge to use Zerena, Steoxys, Zeus mice are high, but I want to try GloJo, Venusaur etc

Or maybe Brendan good for Lorelei

[full mesa]

Nice. Since I don't have SSMorty, I use a combination of SSRedEx/attack-speed buffer and Ninetales eggmon or another support. All syncs to SSRedEx.

[hidden ore]

eggmons 👀?

[full mesa]

Yes. Ninetales tech eggmon has better speed and defensive stats than Blaine. Also it has 1 bar spam move.

[lunar meadow]

Eggmon sometimes are also great speed buffers.

Support Ekans, support Sandshrew, and support Horsea I think can all give the team +6

[hidden ore]

🤔

I gave up on Lorelei and used OP Pika team on her
#challengefailed

[lunar meadow]

What was your challenge?

[hidden ore]

No Red, Steoxy, Zerena

And no Ash

[lunar meadow]

Red isn't nearly at the level of those other 3 hehe

[hidden ore]

Tried to not use my OP units

SST Red 😅

[lunar meadow]

Oh

[hidden ore]

Gave up cuz I’m impatient often

[lunar meadow]

I usually just do monotype or "optimize" for my challenges

Sometimes I drop to 1600 points and use more interesting pairs for fun

[hidden ore]

I’m aiming for 10k

At now its 6k

Now who to use with Gloria 🤔🤔🤔

I love this unit
And Gene with Kyu was fun

[lunar meadow]

Urshifu is a good unit for supporting most physical strikers.

Drednaw especially loves both the def drops and speed drops.

If you are trying to offtype

[hidden ore]

I’m trying to do some dmg with presync

Blue will be SS Morty & Hilda overkill

Second option I consider is GioKing for Lance

[long thicket]

Ended up using the chus for Agatha.
Blue wasn't so bad with EX Sygna Red, Anniversary N and regular Skyla.

I don't have Melony yet, so I don't know how good her max move would be.

[sick anvil]

[zealous karma]

Do you need help 🦑

[sick anvil]

I uhh…

I’m still learning

[mellow linden]

If you need any help feel free to ask!

[sick anvil]

So far I’m good

[swift swan]

both of these options should work well

[onyx osprey]

this is so helpful thnx man

[hidden ore]

This was so much easier than Agatha

With same params I did for Agatha

10k achieved

[onyx osprey]

used archie may and hop to clear bruno

guide for the other 3

i am only going for 1.5k mm

thh

[wicked otter]

Hmm i think you can at least get 3 2k

With ss steven and duo chu

Wait no i think you can even clear 10k lmao

[swift swan]

It's kanto. 10k is possible even f2p

SST Red and Ash can clear separately. There's also SS Steven that you can pair with Bianca. Then finally SS Red (or SS Hilbert) with sun can clear Blue

Even funnier if you run ss red and ss hilbert together with the proper speed support

[toxic cobalt]

Also it's worth upgrading all your free legends properly

+legexchange

[frozen depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/949078726228987954/966401394825371720/unknown.png

[potent wadi]

Does anyone have a list of all the Wise/Sentry Entry x2 stages next month?

[mild hemlock]

Sentry Entry x2 - Electric
Wise Entry x2 - Fairy, Bug, Dark, Ghost, Rock
Wise Entry x3 - Steel (sides only)

[swift swan]

huh, I could swear Sinnoh had more sentry entry x2 stages but apparently not

[sick stump]

teams for next week

im uh, very scared

[mellow linden]

Why, those teams look like they're gonna murder

You literally have the 2 Bug types that Bug weak Lucian was designed for

[swift swan]

with those teams there's no need to be scared tbh

[sick stump]

idk im just not confident in Lucian or Aaron teams 😭

or my skill in general

[swift swan]

although if I may comment, that Bertha team is overkill. move Morty to the Aaron team, get rid of Lillie and Blaine, and bring another fire damage dealer for the third unit. Aaron has more HP than bertha. Brendan and SS Lyra are enough to handle her. just bring another speed buffer (hilbert works) if you want Brendan's inertia nuke

and please have more confidence in your Lucian team, SC submas are literally the intended units to beat him lol

[sick stump]

Alright! I might try do SSMorty/Leon/SSMay for Aaron then, however my SSMorty is 1/5 and my SSMay is 2/5, and May isn't EXd. My Hilbert is 5/5 EX tho, so Brendan can get his Inertia nuke ez

[sick stump]

thank you 😭 it's just that they're both 1/5 without EX tho

[onyx osprey]

ok

[swift swan]

it's fine! Leon and SS May's DPS should be good

[sick stump]

alternatively I have SSRed 4/5 EX

[swift swan]

that also works, yes

but if you want to nuke with him you need someone to set up his haymaker faster

[swift swan]

nah, pretty sure Emmet still hits a ton lol. just make sure you take off the "no stat reduction" param if you're doing MM so Ingo can debuff defense

[sick stump]

yeah im gonna be attempting CSMM 10K

[sick stump]

will do, im running Def Crush 2 on top of his innate Def Crush 9 so that'll help

only worry is Leon has a horrendous buffing profile

[swift swan]

ah true

relying on MP rekindle isn't ideal but with ss red who's much more self-sufficient, you should be fine. if leon does get his TM MP back you can juggle gauges that way (TM on leon, blast burn on red)

[toxic cobalt]

Waiting for Nov's writeup

[swift swan]

maybe on sunday so it doesn't get drowned by other chats

sure we can pin it right away but maybe it'll give people anxiety

[toxic cobalt]

Dreamy pinned Sinnoh a week ago anxiety is already here

[swift swan]

yknow what? fair enough

so people can preplan their teams without going back and forth to pomatools

<plans teams hours before reset

[toxic cobalt]

I cleared Colress so nothing else to do

Well unless I try and beat Rosa with an even worse team

Or do real life

[swift swan]

go do real life smh

[full mesa]

plan teams after reset to factor in the field parameters.

[mellow linden]

Or me, who has a team for every type these days and just adjusts as needed for the stage

[toxic cobalt]

There's only 30 slots!

[mellow linden]

Oh wait, I don't do one for every type because there's no Normal weakness

My bad

[swift swan]

aurochs, I lied. I ran away from real life responsibilities and did the writeup

[lunar meadow]

I have a team for every type.

Normal is Snorlax/Silvally/Egg Lickitung

Always on-type with super effective up

[swift swan]

2022/11/07 - 2022/11/14
Fire-weak Aaron: Mid and left are fully physical, right is mostly physical. Bulky HP (25k). Low attack and special attack stats. Has low resistance to attack and special defense debuffs. Has slightly lower resistance to burn (Lessen Burn 7). Mid has First Aid 2 (heals for 20% when reaching red health). All 3 have Endurance.

Grass-weak Bertha: Fully physical stage. Sets sandstorm upon entry and extends the duration of sandstorm. Has a lot of sand-related passives so changing the weather is recommended. Has low resistance to attack debuffs. Has low resistance to confusion (Lessen Confusion 5).

Psychic-weak Flint: Mid and right are mostly special, left is fully special. Very bulky HP (almost 29k). Very high special attack stat. Has low resistance to special attack debuffs. Has low resistance to confusion (Lessen Confusion 5). All 3 have Piercing Gaze so moves never miss. Mid has Hostile Environment 4 for a high burn chance. Sides have Mind Games 9 to lower your special defense.

Bug-weak Lucian: Mid and right are mostly special, left is fully special. Very bulky HP (almost 29k). Has low resistance to defense debuffs. Has slightly lower resistance to trap (Lessen Trap 7). Debuffs your special attack upon entry and when a move is successful. All 3 have Wise Entry x2 which doubles the base special defense stat (Piercing Blows and other moves with a similar effect do not ignore this). Using physical moves is recommended.

Poison-weak Cynthia: Mid is fully special, sides are mostly special. Bulky HP (21k). Has Hostile Environment 4 for a high burn chance. Sides have Dirty Fighting 2 so they’ll deal more damage to you if you’re affected by a status condition. Mid has Healthy Advantage 4 so damage taken is reduced if not affected by a status condition. Has slightly lower resistance to poison and bad poison (Lessen 7). Mid raises evasiveness after sync and will raise her special attack every time she dodges a hit.

man this took half an hour or so

@toxic cobalt anxiety is here

[tribal agate]

i have eyes on all my beloved threads

[swift swan]

yknow I was wondering why Lucian has lessen trap 7 until I realized. SC Ingo. that dumb train has Infestation

[tribal agate]

lol

[swift swan]

aww

[tribal agate]

can't wait for the Fire Blast nuke

[toxic cobalt]

Dreamy sees All

[swift swan]

I wonder why aaron has such a weird combination of low resistance towards attack and sp defense debuffs. is it for Anni N

[hidden ore]

So next week is hardest CS region?

[tribal agate]

arguably yeah, i find it harder than Hoenn

[toxic cobalt]

Why does almost everyone wants debuffs

[swift swan]

and some of these guys have lessen confusion 5 which makes little sense. psychic I can understand but grass? why does bertha have lessen confusion 5 is it for mallow

[mellow linden]

Definitely the most restrictive CS region

[swift swan]

so far, yes

so far

[hidden ore]

Poison weak Cynthia, food for my GioKing and Janine useful?

[swift swan]

yes, gioking was the recommended pair

[hidden ore]

Janine with Bat

[swift swan]

man's so good he was recommended twice in the same week when he hadn't even been officially announced

[tribal agate]

oh boy

we need a new sheet updated weekly with recommended pair suggestions for each stage

[swift swan]

sure, but she won't be evading a lot of moves. cynthia raises accuracy by 2 upon entry

[swift swan]

speaking of, should I put this in the writeup I don't consider pinpoint entry to be that crucial to know

[hidden ore]

So my plan was to use GioKing and Janine, plus maybe idk a support?

[swift swan]

janine with ariados can still work for stalling

[toxic cobalt]

I’m 100% stalling Cynthia

[swift swan]

yes. if you gioking is not 3/5 yet, bring a crit support