#Champion Stadium
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people will offtype anyway 
last time sinnoh came i was still new so I struggled alot now I am much stronger should be duoble now ig especially since hoenn wasn't that bad for me
Yeah. All those types are week for f2p content and new players.
for ground you have naiomi
Week 2 is going to be a pain and a half. The other seems ok-ish.
I don't think sandslash can do that much.
if you give her proper support she could work hell non boosted cynthia could clear it 2k
Sandslash under sand without zone and with an ex support should handle ground weak pretty well
mina can work for fairy weak not like you have much option due to cynthias wise entry x2
Do the suggested grids work?
No I meant scroll up a bit, the post is slightly above mine
I have to study and prepare this weekend. Also fire weak Aaron has endure...
just nuke it with silver
Teehee who's ready for hellish season
Aaron was my main roadblock so I’m ready for everything except fairy weak Cynthia
That damn evasion hax Spiritomb

SSTRedEx Vs fairy weak Cynthia. I don't want to suffer.
cynthia boutta feel failsafe 2
i have no idea what their gimmicks are btw
the only teams i have confidence in is failsafe 1 and 2

We still have 1 more round of Kanto next week fyi
You do need to status her because of Healthy Advantage 4
Poison me bro basically
Yeah
Lmao good I was thinking to do stall
I remember being confused about why SS Gio wasn’t doing as much damage as usual lol until I read the pop ups
I use the sync nuke build
Wait, Sinnoh CS is next?
Ah, it is. Alright then
2 rotations until I get revenge on Bug weak Lucian. He better watch himself
And when Dragon weak Cynthia rolls around I’ll be trying out Clair against her
Good luck there
Even in KANTO I was so frustrated trying to get her past dragon weak
And when I did it it was because Lance was carrying her LMAO
I’ve got SS Kris and Classic Elesa backing her up and Dragon weak Cynthia has a Ground Sync, iirc
So I think I’ll be in a decent spot
Yeah Dragon weak Cynthia doesn't have any Dragon moves
My biggest concerns (Fairy weak Cynthia, Bug weak Lucian, Electric weak Aaron) should be handled by either off-typing with SSR Cynthia + SS Korrina or by the fact that I now have Classic Elesa
i put these together for week 2 because i have to finish the medal first week
sucks having to offtype two stages
Let’s be honest here. With that set up you’re off-typing 3
Eh, depends on the stage
IMO Bug/Flying weak Lucian, Electric weak Aaron, and Fairy weak Cynthia are the big ones to watch out for
If you have Ash you’re fine
Tbh I forgot about OPikachus
SST Red can probably do it too, but the reason I say Electric weak Aaron is because he has Sentry Entry x2, making physical damage way less useful, and the only non-limited Electric damage-dealer we currently have is Hau
But Ash will obliterate him and SST Red will probably have a fairly easy time as well
Sinnoh CS is mainly difficult because it was the 1st (and arguably only so far) CS to start leaning in on encouraging specific limited (or in some cases new-at-the-time, like Ground weak Aaron being perfectly designed for Bertha) pairs via its gimmicks
Sinnoh VA
When it was introduced
This is its 2nd run, so the people who went through it last time (myself included) are feeling a lot more confident due to updates in our rosters
Electric weak Aaron will be way easier for me because I have Classic Elesa now, for example
Everyone’s gotta do it once per region, nothing to be ashamed of
This channel is here if you ever need assistance
Should be totally fine for Hard Mode, especially if you have OPikachus
No shame in that, ~4.2k total is where all the important rewards are
Sinnoh is around Hoenn difficulty if you’ve done that, which one you hate more depends on your roster
i have 3/5 ss wally, fairy weak cynthia still tough?
Yes. She has wise entry x2 and the ability to raise ACC on hit.
Fairy weak Cynthia has Wise Entry x2, so you'll wanna pair him with Mina
Plus iirc she messes with your accuracy
yeah though ss wally does ignore the accuracy debuffs
Wise entry x2 is still an issue
fuck i need a mega support/need to sync with wally
Sinnoh doesn't allow for floppy team building or op teams and 1-2 low tier. You need strong foundation.
but i only have jasmine and glacia
syncing with wally doesnt sound bad but wise entry
though if hes 3/5 ex i imagine he could brute force it with bede
Definitely
do you not have ss blue?
That's why I'm not planning fairy week on type.
i chose ss red when the selector first came out
worst mistake of my life
I'll just be off-typing with SSR Cynthia/SS Korrina
I might have to poison stall for first time in couple months.
Should be
man i really should start saving for limited supports
Do you spend candies on gen pool units?
Eh, tbh limited Supports tend to be more QoL than huge "this changes everything" picks
SSACynthia would like a word
Don't get me wrong, there are some big limited Supports out there
nah i still bave 2 supp candies
But overall the huge game-changers are more likely to be Striker or Tech
i rolled for ash and sst
Nice
had to spark red 
i feel pretty content with my strikers/techs? im missing good ones for a few types i guess
It's less "you need this Sync Pair for this type" (there are no must-haves in this game) and moreso "this Sync Pair will have you covered for eternity on this type and be able to off-type several stages beyond that"
i see
Like, if you have SS Serena you're covered for Dragon weak stages and 90% of stages for other types
honestly whenever i build teams i try to ontype as much as possible but i probably have great offtype units that i dont utilize
yeah i have zerena
She's basically a free win button
the final two teams i have confidence in lmao
She'll murder 90% of content
Huh, can you only pin your own post?
You can't pin your own post
Nightmary is the Halloween Dreamy
Mods can pin anything
Time to prepare teams for Sinnoh's month. I'm not playing around.
No I was asking why they didn’t pin the other post earlier
Either didn't see it or was easier, I guess
Ohhhh no…. not Sinnoh. I remember it was a pain to get 10k
Already built teams for the first 2 weeks. 2 more to go.
Oh right, october is almost over and they'll have to go back to dreamy

Sinnoh
Week 1
HilbertEx/SSRedEx/Roxanne -> Aaron Fire
SSErika/SSLyra/DawnEx -> Bertha Grass
Bianca/Lucian/SStevenEx -> Flint Psychic
Hop/SCEmmetEx/SkylaEx -> Lucian Bug
Alister/SCLillie/BPClemont or SSLeaf/Janine/BPMorty -> Cynthia Poison
Week 2
SSBlueEx/CyrusEx/MayEx -> Aaron Ground
Sycamore/Ghetis/BPCandice -> Bertha Ice
Hop/SkylaEx/GladioEx -> Flint Rock
Kahili/BPMorty/Sonia -> Lucian Flying
HilbertEx/Mina/Swimduck -> Cynthia Fairy
Week 3
HilbertEx/SSRedEx/Roxanne -> Aaron Fire
Hop/Solgaleo-KGrimsley/SkylaEx -> Steel Agatha
Bianca/Lucian/SStevenEx -> Flint Psychic
SCLillie/BPMorty/GladioEx -> Lucian Ghost
SSBlueEx/CyrusEx/Roxanne -> Cynthia Dragon
Week 4
Ash/Swimduck/Leaf -> Aaron Elec
SSErika/SSLyra/DawnEx -> Bertha Grass
SSBlueEx/CyrusEx/MayEx -> Flint Water
SkylaEx/SidneyEx/Hop -> Lucian Dark
SSACynthia/BeaEx/Marley -> Cynthia Fighting
That's the initial plan...
My BIG concern for 10k is against flint.
Chaos is invested in this
Rock-weak Flint's pretty bulky and idk how good Gladion's nuke will be without super effective up. Olivia can nuke him under sand though
I am no longer concerned now that I have EX Hau
I am still very much Concerned ™️ about Bug-weak Lucian and Fairy-weak Cynthia though 
I went through so much pain with non-EX Hau 
also, only 4 weeks of sinnoh CS? good 
I had to postsync with Hau back then, but I believe he can now presync it 
Last Sinnoh was when my game bugged out for a week but I don't remember which ones I missed.
I also have SST Red and, while he doesn't ignore sentry entry x2, just has big damage anyway
for Dragon-weak Cynthia, maybe you can try Zinnia as an alternative. dragon-weak Cynthia sets up her own sandstorm which you might be able to take advantage of. also remember she has 50% more sp defense under sandstorm
I suppose Cyrus can still bruteforce the extra bulk without zone. cynthia has no additional bulk stats after all
transferring my last message from #poma-questions, would this team win against this week's lorelei (challenge 4), or a L? Don't have much of a choice and trying to save both Rosa and Cyrus for Blue.
yeah but not raised yet, lacking in books
Why SS Misty?
challenge 4 buff
also for the haze, since she (lorelei) apparantly buffs alot
What level is your Potion chu?
ye mc+chu
oh, didnt bothered much on it. still low-leveled though
move level, its maxxed
dunno how to build its grid though.
Just not a big Nate fan
Personally
It could work of course, through sheer Hop power
People should appreciate more llwer tier units tbh
Though Nate is quite bad I guess
If have Anni Skyla then ya, there’s a chance.
Ok so week 1, yes. Just have to off the poison, week 2, maybe since my Hala can’t hit hard. Rest is fine aside from off typing fairy. Week 3 fine. Just need to off type ghost. And week 4, perfect. Just need lucky accuracy drop from night daze.
Ι still need one more copy of her.
Yeah. Fight fire with fire. I'll keep that in mind.
At first I thought to use CyrusEx because the sand will go away after first sync. Now I realise that mega evolution counts as "first time entry in battle". Sand will come back.
I've done it
That's a peculiar team for Lorelei.
aaah Nate. I used him for a challenge run once and regretted it. his defenses are terrible and his damage wasn't too good to presync offtype
What Nate had to do is just fly to sky like a fire bird
If it werent for SS misty I might have died quick lol
since yk, sp.atk boosts
Nate CS solo when?
yeah, next next week for me tho
6 more medals for master 💀
at that time, I might have leveled or gridded more of my pairs
I used him as a move spammer, at best. Typically I use Sycamore for the battery boost
You can reset next week once you win the first time with the remaining types
I use Sycamore to win 
next next week is Sinnoh already right
but yeeah, as Aurochs said. Next week is Kanto, get the rest of your medals, get Master Mode unlocked, then reset and do MM
What would be the best victini team?
Ho oh victini + ?
I think you can carry an extra damage dealer that also likes sun. SS Morty's gauge is good enough to carry two 4-gauge users and Hilda seems to have good gauge control (on paper at least. I don't know yet.) If she's 2/5 or 3/5, you can bring another unit that can burn the opponents more easily for her Burn Synergy 1 (2/5) and Scorching Sync 5 (3/5)
The most popular option is SS May since she has fast ramp and can debuff defense
Since you use shiny Hooh so the slot can be any Fire type
Or someone that can debuff defense stat
DGloria does the job faster than May, but May has sun boost and fast ramp
Both are valid choices
More for me with the lack of SSMay haha
Is Sinnoh a hard one to do?
It was earlier this year.
It is more restrictive in team building
But ever since we gotten better units, it won’t be too hard.
Oh so it will be harder than the old Kanto and Unova.
Praise be, only one steel weak Bertha and one electric weak Aaron
Electric weak is easy with ash and red..... right?
Of course anything is easy with them
Just that when it first released it was pain and they didn't exist back then
We didn't even have Haus EX then
Sinnoh is on a whole different level than the rest...
Hoenn is probably the 2nd hardest, but outside of a couple outliers (Steel weak Glacia) I wouldn’t put it on the same level as Sinnoh
Ya hoenn was just as hard as sinnoh
Sinnoh was only considered harder because the only special attacking electric type with EX was Electivire.
And for physical bugs, basically just Escavalier.
Hoenn had a lot of fights with weather and environmental threats. It was much harder if you didn't counter them properly.
Sinnoh’s gimmicks, at least IMO, are overall more restrictive than Hoenn’s gimmicks
Aaron and Vespiquen were easy. I just powered through with a physical electrical type
Hoenn’s gimmicks have more widespread/accessible methods of getting around them (again, Steel weak Glacia is an outlier)
Hoenn and Sinnoh are comparable, but hoenn is harder.
Sinnoh upped the challenge and we weren't expecting it.
I think hoenn will hold up harder
I’m inclined to disagree with the exception of Steel weak Glacia and maybe Ice weak Drake
I remember steel weak Bertha being much harder than electric weak Aaron or psychic weak flint
Steel weak Glacia will likely retain her difficulty for all eternity unless you have Raihan
But steel weak Bertha didn't get talked about much
I personally found Bertha the most consistently manageable, even Steel weak wasn’t a huge issue for me
I honestly don't remember most of the gimmicks because my units are strong enough and I've been monotyping it for like 8 months 😅
But I do remember hoenn actually taking me a couple attempts due to the environment passives. Lots of weather and Zone, and passive effects related to them.
Sinnoh just had high defenses, and infernape hit HARD.
The fact that Hoenn’s gimmicks were mostly related to statuses and field effects is why I consider it a little below Sinnoh, personally. It’s not necessarily base difficulty of “how hard is it when you can manage the gimmicks” for me, it’s more “how hard is it to manage these gimmicks”. And outside of Steel weak Glacia and (iirc) Bug weak Sidney (which is less gimmicky and more “I will hurt you extremely hard”), I overall find Sinnoh to have more restrictive gimmicks.
Though I suppose updates have admittedly been harder on Sinnoh than Hoenn, so you may actually be right about Hoenn eventually overtaking Sinnoh in difficulty as more options for the gimmicks are added
What was steel weak glacias gimmick, since you keep singling her out?
It’s like sentry entry x2
Sentry Entry x2 when there’s literally Raihan and Thorton’s Sync for special Steel damage
Oh, so the same thing we had in sinnoh?
I mean but that was only the sides. And that was wise entry
Ya, I'm pretty sure Metagross just went through her anyway
It just baffles me that they made her super resistant to every Steel type except 1.5
By far the most restrictive gimmick of Hoenn CS, IMO
Might off-type her with SS Hilda (assuming I get her, which I’m pretty sure I have enough for pity before she leaves) when Hoenn CS rolls back around
the one that was hard for me was sidney since it always had a rare weak type and i had to offtype, for glacia i simply used either ss red, blaine and lillie if fire weak, keldeo, urshifu and a support if fighting weak and since i didnt have raihan exed i simply used palentine marnie sync + kimono grimsley metal burst to beat it through brute force
Anyone have any chaplebge run ideas I’m thinking No Ex run
But I’m open to any and all others
thank you hop@for not having an EX I’d not have any atk/crit buffing supports without you
only use the moves that use the least amount of gauge in your pair's kit
I like that
even better, no buffing B)
week 118 in a nutshell
OPikachus will definitely be a big deal against Aaron, yeah
Me when I don’t ignore sentry entry x2
On my end I’ve got Classic Elesa
that surely will be a sweet revenge
It’ll be nice to not have to deal with RNG on Poison stall
Never found Hoenn to ever be as frustrating as Sinnoh honestly
Goddamn Aaron and Cynthia
Dangit, I forgot Dark weak Lucian has Wise Entry
Nessa + Masked Royal it is then
Or I guess BP Karen + Masked Royal since Water weak Flint is the same week
I just have Sydney nuke haha
Aaron L won't be having much of an impact 
Okay I don't have any good dark, bug or fairy damage dealers so will these off type teams work against them?
Imo you're better off bringing a rain setter for Cyrus. His hydro pump damage is better if you want to offtype
Who's a good rain setter?
Winona and Pelipper is a free one. May and Swampert if you have her
May can help with DPS, Winona can help with flinch. It depends
I usually run May though
Okay I have both
Cool
For team 3, do you have Bianca for psychic terrain?
Nah
Roxanne and Sabrina kinda overlap with most of the buffs they give
Should I switch then?
No no I'm not that strong 😂 just 850
That team should work well enough at 850
Ash team can easily 2k
Team 4 too.
Gio team too if gio has grid.
That's 6k for now.
Oh really?
Team 4 is a free 2k stall
If Cyrus has grid he can 2k under rain. 1.5k for sure. That's 7.5-8k
Honestly I can see all these teams doing 2k with the proper grids. Kanto is easy enough
Not all of them are gridded though
Evolve Blaine (purely for extra stats). 1.5-2k easily. Here. 9-10k
Got it
Of course, it takes a while to get used to how hard (or how bulky) the enemy can hit at 2k. 1.5k is a safe spot if you wanna try it out
I know. I specified who exactly need grids. The rest will need some luck and levels.
Alright
But as novemberninth said, 1.5k is better for beginners. 7.5k is the true nature of MM. Anything else above it is just for show off.

Also, trial and error. That's a huge part of MM. Try, fail, adapt, repeat until you win.
10k is still p good, after a few weeks you get enough spirits to ex an extra unit B)
Sycamore
I don't get the question. SSRed/SSBlue can do champion. Why save someone for him?
These are all 2k teams
Most units don't have grids. Also not enough time to build most of them. That's why we advised for 7.5k at start.
SS R Giovanni Sycamore and Cyrus are the ones who need grids there
I wonder if 4.3k pts. is possible on electric-weak Aaron
That's what I said.
If you max out ash and add 2 good kanto supports.
Right. Hopefully those are the ones with the grids then!
Yes yes
Good. Now level up everyone to 120-125, evolve them and you'll might be able to do 10k.
Lol let someone have a cute pony
More ponies is good ponies
😂😂
Thunderbolt Red and who else?
But I guess he'll have to deal with the Sentry Entry x2
Are you going to use both Zeus' rodents? Then you'll have to use Volkner if you can't set terrain with max move or something like Leaf.
I don't think that it matters too much for SSTRedEx.
Even at 1/5?
Then you need Volkner to maximize terrain. Yeah, you activate kanto passive. I don't think you'll have issues. Also he's quite bulky under terrain.
Bruh why is my ssred dealing so less damage 😕
Your first turns would look something like this:
- V-Terrain, SST-Buff, A-Buff
- V-TFang, SST-Max, A-Thunder
- Ash-Thunder
Ash Sync. After that Ash uses B move mid and SST takes care of sides.
What move level and how do you buff him?
1/5 and i used him with Blaine and ssblue
So less than what?
You need to sync under sun. Also buff his spa and crit to max. 2 TMs, dire hit and use SSBlue TM for accel. Also only use Blast Burn.
Not sure what you're trying to say.
These are my damage numbers
Sounds like it's not buffed
Okay I'll try again
Also idk why but ssblue dies so fast
Who are you fighting?
That would be because Blue is a physical tank not a special tank
Ohh😶
Wait. Are we talking about this week?
Yeah
That's team would work better against Lance imo. He's physical.
Ok so cyrus' team against Agatha them
These are ungridded
They should last. Also you need luck with at least one propulsion before each sync.
What's that?
The passive that ss red gas that reduces sync countdown by 1
Ohkk
When he attacks on has 20% chance to activate though
Got it
Shouldn't need propulsion, SSR should be able to do enough damage
Doesn't hurt though!
Y’know what the big positive for Sinnoh CS is? Because of Bertha and Dragon weak Cynthia there’s good odds of a permanent field effects round parameter every week
Apart from week 2 yes. The others have chances.
We’re going to need to plan ahead 
We can't. We don't know the field effects so any team we create can at any time be deleted for something else that takes advantage of the files parameters.
What do you mean? The enemies will be the same as last time probably
Yes but the field effects won't. Aggravation/reflect/light screen/permanent weather/zone/terrain. Those thing can be game changing.
You mean plan before the week? I'm not talking that far ahead
How far them?
Far enough that I can't pick a level and wing it 
Yeah, I've already made peace with that. 7 months ago Sinnoh handed me my behind. This time I'm getting revenge on the highest possible level.
oh no, planning ahead and not walking into the battle blind? and I have to read the pins to see gimmicks? the horror
novemberninth weekly summary will make a comeback and people better not come here asking why they deal so little damage on insert entry x2 stage here
and of course people will do that
Godspeed to those starting out CS on Sinnoh though
Unsped up agatha is actually a really nice theme wth
That's actually useful, thanks mate.
How did I beat lucian him with that much hp wow SSEthan good unit
Idk how to quad queue and Mina is way easier to use than BP Karen
Wow Hilbert cannot clear dark week without support Ex how have I just realized this
Sidney can’t kill a center mon without Ex til
check last pin here in this channel 
but yeah Mina is great, always recommending her for fairy weaks
also those paras are awful wtf are you running
Strength 12 💀
I know how to quad queue but at the same time I swear the window is smaller for some units when it’s not the case (I did give up on BP Karen that was unfun)
Lorelei hits so hard
Is this what it feels like to be a new player I feel so bad
new players don't run STR 12 
):
Oh my gosh
J have to fight bug
Crying tears
I chose the wrong week to Ex bianca
And the wrong year to Ex any units
What is the right year to EX units
|| also play the lodge to get 20
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I do!!!
Psychic is impossible without a 4* Tate and a good unit to support him
Who do I use for psychic crying
Planning my teams for hard mode next week
Off typing Lucian because I don't like any of my bug units
What’s Brawly for?
Good point
Mostly what I had him for minus the speed
Trying something new for Cynthia but have a backup Stall team just in case
Bertha and Aaron are the most experimental
Should be fine. Hard Mode?
For Cynthia why darach
Koga Iris Sycamore?
I’d only Ex her if she’s a fav since you’re saying yet I’m assuming she is lel
I'm really enjoying having a more aggressive playstyle for poison
Koga is great for those 🦑
I've been using him a bit. I like Janine more overall as a unit but she's slower
Aaron is my first time trying a sunny day team
Bertha is just a mess of "let me see if I can buff tserenna to oblivion and win"
Janine doesn’t have DPS or a sync nuke I’m curious what makes you prefer her more?
She's good for stalling. Debuffs the other team and gets decent damage if she crits while they're poisoned. She needs help but I enjoy her
Plus from my pulls she's a higher move level than Koga so that helps
Koga is an amazing poison unit with his grid when you can candy him to 3/5 I highly recommd using him more
I'll give him a shot
I've got some spare candies I can use
Gotta save up some sync orbs for him but I'll use him for Cynthia
Poor Blaine. I don't like him but he's my only sunny day user
Hope you can get tech Ninetails 🦑
If that team doesn't work I'm switching to Red with charizard
And I think I have one
Just haven't been using eggmons
Do you have 3/5 hilbert Samurott?
Hilbert is amazing I wonder where you heard that
At 1/5 he’s more decent at 3/5 is where he truly shines tho
finally got it right
That’s how they should do against cynthia next week
Oh I know Hilbert is good, I was meaning eggmons
Ohh
Don't normally hear anyone talk about them, let alone positively
Most egg mons are bad or decent
Tech Ninetails sets Sun and has a one bar so it’s on the better side of egg mons
Imo yes unless your Blaine has speedy entry lucky skill
They’re both there to set Sun but it doesn’t matter unless you’re using a gauge heavy unit such as SSRed but then again SSRed gets a lot of theme skills from him 
Is your red 2/5 or 1/5? I will check the calc rn
Haven't done anything with him so neither of those. Just got him to 5/5
Who do you plan to support red with Idk if you already mentioned that
Silver syncs harder but red deals more damage 🦑
You could use ash for Aaron instead
I could yeah. Just wanted to try out something different first
In an extreme case where I can't win I'll just kill everything with ash
Man BP Janine just dies
Yeah don’t tank with her, Richu
Too late for that
I adore 20% chances
What was the 20% there?
80% chance to crit, 20% not to
Oh alright then, forgot about that
How's this look for week 1 of Sinnoh hard mode? Trying to maximize # of types I get in:
Fire weak:
BP Morty (Ghost)
Ex'd Silver (Fire) (maybe SS Hilda if I go for her)
Hop (Steel)
Grass weak:
SS Erika (Grass)
Nanu (Dark)
Hilbert (Water)
Psychic weak:
SS Steven (Psychic)
Redlax (Normal)
SSA Cyntha (Fighting)
Bug weak (but with Wise Entry x 2):
SST Red (Electric)
SS Brendan (Dragon)
Aaron (Bug)
Poison weak:
BP Erika (Grass)
Janine (Poison)
Xerneas (Fairy)
Ss brendan, as a special support, doesn't seem to help sst red much but I don't think he needs any help 
yeah he's there for Dragon type, support Ex, and to buff SpDef since Lucian and his team basically only has Sp Attacks
For the ss steven team, I'd say be careful with the right side who has hammer arm (which will get boosted by ssa cynthia's fighting zone)
That should work then
LOL I didn't even think about that interaction. maybe drop SSA Cynthia for another Fighting support then.
nice catch
Maybe Cobalion?
SS Steven doesn't need buff help, so the MGA can maybe help as well as the DEf buff against the 2 PHyAtt moves the enemy has
Sure, that can work
or give that team Aaron and put SSA Cynthia with SST Red (since SST Red doesn't need any help buffing either)
It works either way I suppose. I'm more inclined with Aaron staying where he is against Lucian but you can switch them up and you'll still win
Both can buff defense and sp defense right
Plus can heal
ok I can try one way and see if it works. Aaron buffs both def and spdef, and can heal himself
I forgot that I have yet to unlock Master Mode for Sinnoh
Think Sinnoh, Alola, and Galar are the only ones which I have yet to unlock Master Mode for
You get a chill week 1 then
Assuming that Galar and Alola have a Champion Stadium
I think that Galar doesn’t even have an Elite Four?
Galar and Kalos don’t have Champion Stadium as of yet
Nope, it doesn’t. I believe order of release is Kanto -> Johto -> Unova -> Alola -> Sinnoh -> Hoenn
We’ll most likely get Kalos CS either in the lead-up to or shortly after Kalos Villain Arc, but no guarantees
Yeah, not sure how they’re planning to handle Galar CS if they ever implement it
I think they'll add a CS for galar and make the bosses use max moves 
Like, there's no way they won't milk Galar for CS
I'm in a pinch , i reinstalled today and i need to get all the CS 5* powerup tickets to EX
Maxie
Can I post units and someone help me make teams fast
Oh I need to unlock mm for next month
#1011675077764456519 message Here are some fast teams, but obviously you can sub your better units in
Sinnoh is the hardest CS we've had so far, but good luck! Feel free to @ me if you need help
What's a good poison stall team?
Janine + someone who inflicts Bad Poison (via Toxic, Poison Fang, or Venomous) + a tank
Can substitute Janine with another Attack/Sp. Atk./both debuffer as necessary
Janine, SS leaf and Sonia work?
I'd personally recommend someone like Skyla, Misty + Psyduck, or BP Morty more so that you can save Sonia for more offense-oriented teams
Alrighty
I remembered why I hated CS
Anyone have any challenge run ideas I did no EX
Maybe for 1 stage do “Anti Koga Slander PSA” and off-type with him?
Doable!
I did it and recorded it 🦑
Now if only I could speed it ridiculously fast
Anyone able to help with MM?
What point value?
10k is possible
Alright, show us your roster (ideally via screenshots from the move level menu) so we can give the best possible advice
There the most points one gotten so far
If you want you can go to 1.5k per stage 1st, but if you’d like to move to 2k per stage that’s fine
So 1st off, SS Serena is a great back pocket option in case you get stuck
Ash is another great back pocket option
You could try:
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Sabrina + Giovanni + Bianca for Bruno
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SS Wally + Classic Giovanni + Mina for Lance
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SS Cyrus + Karen + Kiawe or Hop + Masked Royal + Nessa for Agatha
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N + Volkner + Hilbert for Lorelei
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Alder + SS Blue + 3rd teammate (BP Morty, maybe?) for Blue
If you have trouble you can either come back here to workshop it a bit or use a team of SS Serena + Lucas + a 3rd teammate (Marley would be good; you’ll clear so fast she can tank long enough) to just murder the stage
Should work for either
Sweet
@storm moss you were looking for team advice for this week of CS and not the week that starts tomorrow, right?
Yes this week
Ok, just making sure I didn't accidentally give you teams for the wrong week
Things would not have gone well if I had
I never really do MM but I wanna start cus I want more EX's
I got a ton of supports I want to EX
Understandable
I have 29 so far. 30 with Gehtsis tomorrow
Should have 31 with Silver butttt ye boi didnt 20/20 him LOL
Just got SS blue 10/20
Sonia I think is next
Had like 50k sync orbs so I built a TON of supports
Reset imminent to final Kanto week so get your stuff done
How does this look for this week?
Looks fine enough
Could split up Ash and SST Red so that one of them is a back pocket option
doing 850
Yeah, should be fine for 850
1 more week of kanto
Yep
What is that Blue team haha
it'll be easy enough with fire weakness
if not i'll switch out ss red for sst and volt tackle shennanigans
if i cant kill with red sync then ash b thunderbolt clears
well if you want ss red to be the damage dealer, a sun setter is better
Can’t believe I come back to this thread and people are debating whether an Ash SSR CynthiA team will win smdh
I don’t think anyone is debating whether it can win so much as “but why”
…
I guess
Stupidly easy week so hopefully people have fun
Yeah, I’m gonna be trying out a weird BP Candice comp with Glacia and Palentine’s Bea as Supports
Hail grid Glacia?
Ooh. That’s an idea. I was thinking of seeing if I could make not great duos.
If it doesn’t work out I’ll be doing the backup plan of a Holiday Nessa comp
Not without EX units (:
No ex run is the hardest one I’ve ever done
Lol I do this every week
How many ex resources fo you have
Probably like 1k
That’s a weeks worth of Ex tho that seems low
Why don’t more F2P clears use Kareneon and Nanu for dark week?
Like this isn’t to bad right?
I can never get Karen to work
Recoil is no good
Nanu probably because his grid is still new
Also flinch nukes are in general pretty finicky
case in point: Tate 
oh his is regular moves. My point still stands 
Technically it’s interference sync so could use will for confusion
This is why I had to use Acerola
She needs def drops which Nanu happy offers you should try the team some time both my Karen and Nanu are still their base stats and are both 3/5
Oh I can get her to kill mid no problem, the problem is she also kills herself
I swear I’ve even seen her one shot herself
I totally forgot Drake got a grid
Did I miss last month entirely or something?
Sync regen!!! Can Drake now stall?
Huh I missed Wilfric too
Honestly I think I'll keep leaving CSMM to be done in the last two hours because I seem to do better somehow 🤔😂
Nah just makes me have to think on the go and really learn and understand the units
wouldn't recommend that for Sinnoh later lol. it took me hours the first time I did Sinnoh 10k
oh i won't, was just amusing for me cause i only just finished for this week and i did the same last week xD
ah. that's nice. forgot that Nanu has a decent nuke now. can actually deny both left & right mons there and also focus the first Nanu sync at the center followed by a denial by Karen on the left. do not even need the healing for Karen with that i believe.
Okay, what all is gonna show up for Unova?
Because I'm not sure how much I want Hilda considering I have SS Red and Anni N.
I think Fire is pretty locked down.
derp, wrong chat
this week seems to be one of the easiest for ontype
not that much of a contrast, only 2 offtype elite four: poison and bug
We will see
in my case the only problem was grass, had half health mod and they kept spamming aoe, i simply changed that and it became a cakewalk
any suggestions on who to pick for this week's stadium?
thankfully i cant do master mode next week since it'll be my first time doing sinnoh cs
four of the stages are easy matches to free legendaries. That leaves only grass with potential trouble, but even then you could just solar beam it with Silver.
bug weak lucian mightve given me trouble
I can't remember bug weak Lucian, I can only remember Aaron 
I was meanting at what order, since I dont have all the legendaries leveled yet XD
was it that bad?
Also steel weak Bertha but mostly Aaron
I think it wasn't as bad as people say, but it's definitely harder
also is it weird that I still have kanto championship?
We all have Kanto for one week more
next week sinnoh starts
It is weird that they have a week of Kanto the next month but 
got ash and sst red at least, aaron still sounds like a menace tho
Oh I dunno, what are the field parameters this week? I haven't looked
they're pretty mid
Oh you'll be fine then! Last time was pre those, and pre even Hau EX.
lemme check
I'm personally planning to at some point hit Aaron right in the face with a six gauge buddy move.
Nice, a more fun week than usual
was thinking that I'll be using helena at r3 but hmm
blue's para is physical move boost for both sides
Physical Silver time
Time to get silver ready
With those field parameters this week is really simple. Silver for fire, Cyrus for water, Ghetsis for ice, Slowgaleo (and Hop!) for steel, then you can poison grass no problem on round 3.
Of course ymmv but that's a fallback!
What were you expecting???
Ready for next week… hopefully
this should be good
Less resistance to getting exploded
Literally has a physical damage buff 
i need another sunny day user, always end up usin erika and morty together
cause erika struggles to kill more than red
There’s EggTales and Blaine
prolly wont be as much an issue once she gets ex tho
olivia and karen are who im planning next tho
but yeah, i'll try erika and morty seperately next time
Should I start my runs with this? Also which order?
Why was everyone talkin about Aaron and using Ash against him? No Aaron today
Planning for 28 November
Because PTSD
Order doesn’t matter much this week, go nuts except maybe for Gloria

Which one do you think will be my hardest fight?
Well, Lance, unless you change out either Gloria or Sol!
Need for speed there
Otherwise your teams are pretty stacked
You used Gloria in a double striker team with MC Solgaleo?
Is Agatha physical?
Mostly special
yea she can apply both
Which Steven?
uh V-create straight up does 26k after sync with no SE ^ or phys up next. but with confusion synergy 2
Alternatively a buffer
holy
@silver dirge BTW I was using OG Hilda
oh shyt
Doesnt help ngl
Not SS
that's pretty damn good
Man. Idk what team to use and who to do 1st round
lol
You could try Glacia against Agatha
Why Glacia
If summer steven won't work for whatever reason just use Ghetsis 
No

Ghetsis can kinda help you survive longer with his Noble Roar
How?
Lowered offensive stats against the enemy
Ok
You mean r3?
Ah yeah
LOL SS Hilda, being a striker, does 76k damage on the mid with 2x sync buff, scorching sync 5 & rising tide
Nice. I'll candy her. Spend 17k just for a copy... Anyhow, how is week's challenge?
Looks good enough. Order doesn't matter much, though I'd suggest be careful if you want to fight Agatha or Lance R1. Agatha has air slash, Lance has Iron Head, good chance for them to flinch your tank
But he works even without his powerboost. I understand not wanting to use a unit out of personal grudge but if you don't have a lot of options maybe, idk, use them just to beat a stage and deal with it
I did lol
Triple legendary steel beasts team hoooooooo
Kanto abuse
We need to enjoy bullying Kanto while it lasts! 
In return, we'll get bullied next week!
ooooh cant wait for Sinnoh
Oddly enough, same
I spent months hating on Sinnoh but found myself missing the dopamine and frustration it gives me
Sinnoh and Hoenn are the only CS I enjoy the most, because they are actual challenges
Wait it’s not sinnoh this week? ):
Does cold snap work with the additional effecy param or no?
iirc no
No
It only works on innate effects of moves
Does Gloria’s move effecy work with it?
parameters for 3000?
Like the enemy sync buff makes her deal more damage
Hmm I don't think so. It just says "are more likely to occur"
3000... Per stage? 
yeah
kanto is boring anyway
Holy shit stacking all attack and strength

Idk if I ever want to try that lol. I'll just wait until they raise the max rewards cap agsin
nope
im trying with him sc sonia and lyra against lorelei
It’s actually not to bad 3K isn’t that hard but I do have broken pairs
Oh I meant Victor was able to off type pretty welll for me witb those params lel
Richu either has 5/5 EX Zerena or 5/5 EX Calem. The range.
Are you running monotype too on top of 3k or is this just coincidence
I was able to 3K on type with Calem so (:
i usually run monotype yes
or double striker
For 3K highly recommend double strike
yep
owo
but i need terrain too
I do monotype, but at 2k lol
Ice and poison are a challenge still, but I can solidly get them done now
Busted.
#1010274591601598555
I believe I'm more than ready for next week, only problem I see I could have is Bertha because of how frail Groudon can be.
try not using Groudon's Trainer Skill
and just maximize your stats without using Groudon's TS .-.
eitherway
you're probably gonna run Aaron on your team.
I'm more worried about Lyra who can't tank a lot tbh
You get rid of Bertha's sand and you'll be fine
I did 10k needed some luck with silver dodge rng tho
no sync buff, holy moly
Has sync buff xd
o I didn't see it in the pic, how many
Just 1 from ex sonia
Prob is rng for burning hum
What parameters did you use?
Time to prepare my teams for next week
Which week does Cynthia does her whole evasion gimmick?
i dont use its ts, it is just that it still cant tank as much
it can tank enough to sync, and i dont need a second sync since groudon + leafeon deal a shit ton of dmg
I agree. I ran a Hail build but Enduring is still a welcome addition
I was thinking of going Ghetsis/Clement/EX Sabrina vs Agatha, but there’s no possible way to get -6 to all stats pre-sync
Well, Sp Atk/Atk are easy, but not speed.
I don’t have enough turns
Well, I'm seeing some repeats for stuff I've already asked about.
Maybe I should save the advices I get elsewhere.
I can't dedicate time for CS right away, so I'd have to ask a little later on the week.
It makes sense that you'd get similar advice considering 4 of the 5 stages are repeat weaknesses this Kanto cycle
Today I did my first 10k with on type fire
Felt weird to use silver the way I did, but I'm not gonna question it too much
Team was Skyla Sabrina silver
I still don't really like using him
But at first now I know it's easier to do fire on type if I give up on sun completely
Tbh that sounds more like you have issues with teambuilding when including Sun. I use regular Hilda + Sun setter + Support for Fire weak CS regularly and 2k no problem
Fairy weak too
Did anyone use Serena this week
I did one ten for her today and got shit now I'm going to have to save for another ten
What does this make me then
The minority
You used red without sun?
Don't have ss morty, used ss erika elsewhere, don't feel like using tech ninetails or blaine, don't want to sync with Lyra or Silver for it
I can always go for a team of SS Red/Lyra/Silver but just not today
Those two combined did enough damage to kill mid right after postsync. Can't really complain
My only good sun setter is SS Erika, but I already used her on grass weak
Of course I would never recommend this kind of team to people asking for advice lol
It's likely something that will remain like that until I get SS morty
Blaine exists though
Silver/Lyra/Blaine should be good enough for fire weak 10k
Not super amazing or anything, but handles Sun just fine
Also, no arcanine blue? He immensely benefits from the sun and the upcoming fire gear
one sync to rule them all
Haha same team as me
Everyday I regret my decision skipping ss morty 
me but choosing ssdawn over ssmorty in that select scout
I did
Ex'd or no
Full def and levels
Ah, just realized that Rock weak Flint and Ground weak Aaron will be the same week. That’s kinda annoying
Gen I moment
Moreso that I use Sand teams for both types
But at least I have Bertha and Acerola now, so no need for Tech Kabutops
Acerola doesn’t get paid enough for this
I did not even need ss morty..for blue ss elesa and anni rihan and anni n was enough that sun and trap bro
damn v create damage is so stupid against blue, feels like hitting with sync
Hmm Agatha or Lorelei are the hardest this stage?
Can’t figure out best parameter to beat them
I normally use post sync
How TF does everyone evade a 95 accuracy attack?
Ghetsis Kyurem should be doable for post sync 2k Agatha even without ex
Tm first
Perhaps bring a special support to Agatha on round 3?
feels bad only just got my sabrina alakazam grid done
i guess with ghetsis ex, he can off type csmm now, so many options
Ghetsis ex 😔
Meanwhile I don’t have his powerups cuz a bad mistake in the past
Exchanged for the common 5* PU?
I can't remember which ones have Wise/Sentry Entry X2 
Bug Lucian is Wise Entry iirc
Thats right
He already could 
I true him against aghata and he kinda struggled to presync clear
With or without sup ex?
Yes but i can't really debuffs sides spatk
Then overpower is useless
Im lazy to adjust grid lol
How are the sides relevant for presync?
Maybe i used him with ex glacia, so that his spatk is a bit higher
Yes with 6ex support is a different story
But i was talking about 1st sync 6ex tech sync
However i don't like that setup, i just run it just to try his ex
I'm not satisfied if any rng is involved in a clear
Unless I'm trying some kind of meme run
Given ghetsis isn't designed to first sync kill with no rng this feels a big ask
My best ice option is probably still hala
With ghetsis I tend to clear post sync
Wondering if I should go for genesect, since it will probably be my best ice type
But I also use the funny freeze team with pryce
Yes but i don't really like to go post sync
I'm also reluctant to not give the opponent -2 sync
Without -2 sync ghethsis can DPS Agatha presync with 6ex support
Wait you do all your battles with -2 sync?
But i find that BP Candice + Pryce, do a better job
That's a very very different battle
Generally, yes
Then every run is a meme run !
Sometimes even -3
Most units can do 2k master mode with -2 sync
With proper teammates
That's true but personally I wouldn't recommend it
Most units hmm?
. maybe not stuffs like Norman, but i think most units can
Most of my runs are DPS with 6ex support
But sometimes i run sync nukes too
But i don't have much ex nuker
yeah. -2 sync countdown is quite practical nowadays. for eg: Silver, Cyrus, Candice, Olivia, Sidney etc. can do it with accesible teammates i feel. that's excluding the crazy limited ones we are getting.
But wouldn't go ahead and say most units
i do feel it does kinda depend on the support quite a lot as well
yeah. wish he would get a powerboost though. give him some more nukey stuff
more accessible ones i guess
One of the few techs that doesn't have a tech innate buff
I think the only other one is mew
Non ex Kyu
For how i generally run it, ex makes no difference
yeah but free ex is free ex.. hopefully the expanded grid its getting will improve it a bit more
Yes i exed it
But i Will probably make good use of his ex only on gauntlet
For gauntlet is a great buff
Wish he had more multipliers on his sync
Is he grided?
I mean 100% on top of tech innate and 6ex tech isn't that bad
Problem is that debuffs on opponent multipliers are the most annoying, unless it's something fast to achieve
OG Lyra is the best one I have, besides I'm only showing Ghetsis off
If I had 3/5 Thunderbolt Red, I would've easily replaced Pryce for him
I run 1/5 classic elesa
Too bad I don't have her
Clermont is more gauge friendly
P serena would be the best speed debuff option gauge wise
Yeah but Pryce can grant more damage to Ghetsis because of theme skill
Besides, my Pryce is only 4* level 120
Yes but 4 gauge + 3 gauge on 2 slow mons is kinda annoying
Also, that was max HP and max offensive parameters that I did
Ghetsis is gridded, but I don’t know what params are best
Non ex as I explained
And these are support speed buffers I have
I have Ash, Red, ssSteven, Renegade Cynthia, Zerena etc, but wanted to use ice against Agatha plus sst Red is starting to be boring now
Since you have a support ex I can suggest using noble roar on the center in the first sync cycle
Then start doing glaciate after the support sync
What parameters in master mode?
Post sync 2k, change no stats drop to smth else
Any round as long as it's not round 4 for Agatha
Roxanne should be decent she has spatk + spdef up if your SC lillie doesn't have her MPR
Or skyla for an extra batch of potions
Your choice they're both should be doable


