Champion Stadium

[full mesa]

Ally healing drop 50%. That's why. Change it for strength 2.

[stoic vine]

Even worse lol. Now they knock me out before Lapras is down

[toxic cobalt]

Are you triple queueing and so on?

[toxic cobalt]

How

[stoic vine]

I'm probably just not gridded enough honestly. Plus I think Lorelei hates me lol

I always get stuck on this fight

[toxic cobalt]

Can you screenshot the grids?

I have some time to look into it

[stoic vine]

Yeah sure

Hop and Marley are only gridded some

[toxic cobalt]

Hmm that hop is basically ungridded

Marley Scorcher isn't going to hlep against Lorelei, she is a special attacker

That only gets to +2 crit doesn't it?

Are you able to get the Hop to It mpr in his grid? It's only a few more orbs

[stoic vine]

I would be able to tomorrow but I'm out of orbs

Changed Marleys arround

[sharp totem]

should be an easy 10k for next week

agatha might be the only troublesome one

[toxic cobalt]

I changed Marley to have the sync tile instead of flame wheel. It’s janky nonsense with that crit shield but it works.

Hop definitely a grid priority!

[stoic vine]

Finally beat her 😭

That was rough

[stoic vine]

How's my setup for next week look? Only not confident in Agatha and Blue. Lorelei may be overkill but with my luck with her I'd need it lol

[toxic cobalt]

Why so monotype?

[stoic vine]

Just how I've been used to setting up teams so far

Just cleared master mode for the first time

[toxic cobalt]

Don’t see how that Lusamine guzma team works. They’re both bad in the best of cases

[stoic vine]

Haven't used Guzma. I know Lusamine is very frail

Hm let me go back to the drawing board

[toxic cobalt]

Amazing how the Lorelei team has 3 units each of which individually has solo potential

Use one of those for Blue

[stoic vine]

Do we know the gimmicks they'll be running or are they the same every week?

[north crown]

an attack buffer in place of viola should work

[stoic vine]

I might off type Blue

Not really confident in any of my bug types

Played around a bit and changed some members

Blue I was choosing between Chreryl and Elio but chose Cheryl to buff a bit more

[north crown]

doesn't ash already max his sp atk?

yeah, +6 SpAtk, +2 Speed, +3 Crit

very busted TM

[stoic vine]

He goes up 4 stages

Max if low health

[north crown]

+2 spatk and +2 speed at full HP, not low

"In addition, raises the user's Sp. Atk and Speed by 2 stat ranks when the user's remaining HP is at half or more."

[stoic vine]

Oh my bad

Misread

[north crown]

yeah I almost misread it the first time too

I would personally just bring a random support EX for extra dps

[stoic vine]

Only support EX I have is Dawn and she's on the team with Cyrus

[north crown]

even if it's a waste of buffs (rosa EX - she's free lol)

[stoic vine]

Haven't hit rank 35 yet sadly for her

[north crown]

I used Leaf EX (gives no further buffs to ash other than sync boost), and one shot mid with 4 gauge B Thunderbolt with electric terrain

even if it doesn't one shot mid, it's ash

he can spam thunder after support ex buffed b thunderbolt

[stoic vine]

Could probably switch dawn out for someone else for lance

[north crown]

about that

Dawn doesn't let you quadqueue (2 syncs before your opponents')

oh you're offtyping Lance? sorry I'm not familiar with type weaknesses next week

[stoic vine]

Dang

Lance is Dragon

Palkia will do most of the damage

Just need to keep it alive basically

[north crown]

replace ghetsis with rain dancer (May would be best), and use Cyrus Hydro Pump grid

waitaminute I forgot to ask if you're doing hard mode or MM

[stoic vine]

MM

The 850, still new to it

[north crown]

I just assume MM cuz hard mode is way too ez even with medal requirements... yeah exactly

you can probably do 10k (2k each)

don't want force you but you can

[stoic vine]

I'll try for it but most of my stuff is ungridded and level 120

[north crown]

ok I'm starting to spam lemme just type out a list

oh ungridded... that makes sense

what units are gridded?

[stoic vine]

Solgaleo and Palkia are the only fully gridded ones I think

The rest just have a bit

The atk buff from hop is useless but he does give me healing and crit

Side note, this week made me realize how fun and strong poison stall is

[north crown]

Lorelei: SSTRed hard carries any team even without grid. Remove those supports and put them elsewhere / save them. Use Misty here if you're afraid of losing or if something goes wrong.

Bruno: Mostly fine, but I would personally replace Sabrina with a different SpAtk buffer since she's frail to physical moves.

Agatha: wtf is this team comp, and why would you throw random supports on a team? refer to teambuilding 101. (Sidney is self sufficient my guy, which means you only need tanks, debuffs, or even more damage)

Lance: Even without quadqueue, Cyrus + May is overkill even without support EX - trust me on this one. If you want a support, bring one with either crit buffs, accuracy buffs, or both.

Blue: If you have Volkner, replace Marley and it's GGs.

and yeah if all else fails, you can poison stall
good thing every stage is stallable

[north crown]

edited this message since I'm a dumbass

[stoic vine]

Don't have Volkner

And I thought that what I was doing with agatha unless I misunderstood. Sidney buffs his attack and crit, I have phoebe to tank and Kiawe to buff his speed

Did replace Sabrina with Roxanne

And Hop with SS Elesa

[north crown]

holy shit you have some very good units here you aren't using

Bianca - Psychic Terrain and can act as a tank. Busted unit, replace Lucian.- trust me trading debuffs for psychic terrain is worth it.

Falkner - Can buff all offensive buffs + accuracy.

Kiawe - +3 to all offensive buffs, including crit. Provides speed and healing as well.

Lillie - I would not recommend this to newer players, but if you want to save up on even more resources, use her in the rain team.

WAIT YOU HAVE SSELESA!?! oops caps but idc

[north crown]

sidney is self sufficient except +2 attack, which is easy to fill, and even in certain circumstances isn't needed.

I would choose to stall Agatha unless you're gunning for a no stall week

[stoic vine]

Nah I'm fine with stalling

[north crown]

no wait I'm stupid you have Nessa

Jaw Lock is stupid powerful

Kiawe, Nessa, Nanu

I ran something similar and did 2k

[stoic vine]

Still new to team building so I'm learning. Haven't had the game all that long

What do you think of these

Went misty and Brawly for Red

Since they're not gridded but still have useful buffs and devuffa

Debuffa

[north crown]

Lorelei: SSTRed.
Bruno: Bianca (Tank), Giovanni, Sabrina
Agatha: Kiawe / Falkner / Hop, Nessa, Nanu - Nanu provides flinch and defense debuffs. Debuff mid first.
Lance: Falkner / Falkner, Cyrus, May

Blue: Dawn, Ash, Lucian..?

[stoic vine]

Debuffs

[north crown]

I used him at a time where he didn't have a grid

he's still very useful

[stoic vine]

He is. I used him for hard mode to get through bruno

[north crown]

debuffs, 60% flinch with +3 crit (hence kiawe/falkner)

kiawe prevents quadqueue, but nanu fixes it (if you know the opponents' turn order)

oh you're going with the Lillie route, yeah that's fine

I just didn't recommend her cuz she's not the best at tanking

but Cyrus + May duo is busted enough so

yeah you have everything down

you even added brawly cuz he synergizes well with the team

if you know how to teambuild to that extent, then you should have no problem doing 2k

oh wow didn't notice Roxanne. I thought you had no grid

[stoic vine]

I've got it down a bit. My main issue is that I have to learn by trial and error. If I just read info it doesn't stick

I forgot that I used her some in hard mode

It's not complete but should be able to get it that way in a couple days

[north crown]

yeah she's very good for essentially a free unit

[north crown]

overall pretty good, both power and budget-wise. Even if you fail you'll have wild cards to lean onto (Hop, Sycamore poison stall, Falkner, etc.)

Kinda want to test that psychic team. Didn't use Roxanne with Giovanni in a long time.

replace her with Sabrina if things get tough, cuz I just noticed that there's no heals in that team now

yeah I'm definetly going to test that team cuz idk if Bianca lives that long

[stoic vine]

They seemed to synergize well. At least on paper. Fairly bulky and a big SpAtk buff and yeah didn't notice that before 😅

[toxic cobalt]

Bianca is an old standard tank for the Gio Sab Bianca team

[north crown]

but like

also 2k

[stoic vine]

Still waiting to find a use for my new Fall Iris. She seems really strong but haven't found where to slot her in anywhere

[north crown]

at least you don't have to worry about poison weak stages anymore

I was wondering if Fall Iris can offtype but I doubt it

[stoic vine]

She seems strong on a poison team but don't know otherwise

Should also add I have a few spare candies laying around

Just haven't found a unit to add them to yet

[north crown]

those are optimal as most content can be beaten with f2p units

[tender shore]

I had to go to work so late ass reply but i triple que yeah.
I didn't know about quad queing until after trying, so there's that
But like my kris/feraligator are level 125 and I couldn't kill bruno's onix even after 2 sync moves(i used the guaranteed crit on both the sync moves)

So the only thing I can assume at that point is that I dont have them gridded and thats the problem.
Unless gear makes that big of a difference since I haven't grabbed any yet since i've been told its easier to just wait for the events

[zealous karma]

Sadly unless your kris is 2/5 (preferably 3/5) she will struggle a bit to beat Bruno

She wants rain accuracy and crit which only a 3/5 Aaron can do

[tender shore]

yeah I figure i'm just not going to be able to realistically do CS, I have a lot of units but none of them are beyond 1/5 unless they're free like the legendaries

so I just need to keep playing

[zealous karma]

You’re just doing base normal CS right?

You definitely can beat it

[tender shore]

No I beat normal CS, normal CS you dont need advice on Lol

[zealous karma]

Can you show your pairs?

[tender shore]

one sec

[zealous karma]

Just 5* pairs forgot o clarify

Darn I had to reset I forgor I was doing smth

[tender shore]

does the sync pair tracker let you simplify it to just units you own or can I only get the image with every pair

I can just post the big image but i figured it'd be easier to read if it was only units I own

[zealous karma]

I actually have an easier time looking at an i game screenshot but whatever is most available for you

Wow I beat Bruno with a gridless kris but I was very lucky with mega kick not missing once 🦑

[tender shore]

forgot you only wanted 5* which fits in one image

[zealous karma]

Quite the petit roster where’s Zinnia?

[trail smelt]

WEE BABY ROSTER

[zealous karma]

lel

I’ll try my best to make stuff brb

[tender shore]

Zinnia and rayquaza?
yeah I haven't gotten to all the LA but I mentioned the last time I was getting help it wouldn't take to long to get them if one of them was for a team

[zealous karma]

Fighting: Sabrina solgaleo Skyla
Dragon: Zinnia Blaine Hop
Water: Rosa Cyrus Winona
Ghost:Gio Roxanne Liza
Poison: Sycamore Koga Janine

[tender shore]

im not doing anything so Ig I'll work through them right now

[zealous karma]

I recommend doing those it gives you a larger roster

[zealous karma]

These teams should work but idk how’d they do gridless

[north crown]

I mean as long as Sycamore is gridded you're set. Replace Koga with Lucy if you can

[tender shore]

too bad I can only use sycamore once 😛

[zealous karma]

I only recommended him once (:

[tender shore]

I was replying more to nitsua, sure if sycamore is gridded(he is) then that covers taht fight but he's my only gridded unit so far

also it as a joke but im tired so maybe its not as funny as I thought it was

[zealous karma]

Oh lel

[spring fable]

is CS next week gonna be harder

[zealous karma]

It’s Kanto so not really

[swift swan]

This week really is the most f2p friendly one, next week not really

But then again it's Kanto. Nothing much to worry about in general

[spring fable]

does hard and master mode share the same rewards?

eg. clearing hard then master with points > clearing master straight away

[zealous karma]

They offer the same rewards without parameters with master mode parameters you gain much more

[toxic cobalt]

Hard mode is just 0 point Master mode.

[trail smelt]

Yeah Master Mode is Hard + Point. You’ll get the same reward in Master as you do Hard, but adding additional parameters gives you points which will give you additional rewards that you can’t obtain in Hard Mode alone

There is no reason to do just hard mode once Master Mode is unlocked and you can consistently beat MM

[plucky pewter]

heck just realised i forgot to get CS done this week

[full mesa]

You still have a few hours.

[swift swan]

yeah, it's Kanto. should be done in half an hour or so if you're used to doing MM

[plucky pewter]

only been doing mm for a few weeks. fighting/dragon should be easy for me.. its water, ghost and poison that im unsure of

[toxic cobalt]

Cyrus Giovanni Poison

[plucky pewter]

i dont have gio/nidoking

[swift swan]

Cyrus for water, giovanni for ghost, and poison stall for poison-weak

[tired sleet]

Or just offtype it

Don't know why ppl don't want to offtype

[keen jasper]

Lorelei do be having evasion everytime she gets hit tho

[plucky pewter]

thats honestly what i did last week, off typed 3/5 matches

[plucky pewter]

i dont want to hear that 😦 lol

[swift swan]

just rely on nukes then

or bring a piercing gaze unit as your main DPS

[plucky pewter]

I usually use ssa cynthia/Bea for fighting, guess I'll have to adjust

[swift swan]

should be fine

I used Hilbert/SSA Cynthia/Bea this week and it was smooth sailing

[trail smelt]

Don’t wanna

[tired sleet]

OK then

[swift swan]

there's a good chance you'll need to offtype for Sinnoh CS, I think. Wise entry x2 bug-weak is disgusting

[formal vigil]

Just use noaland or subway twins if you have them

[toxic cobalt]

Bugsy is also a possibility

Although iirc there were additional gimmicks

[swift swan]

if I had the subway twins I wouldn't be complaining so much about that stage

[swift swan]

the additional gimmick is Lucian has inflated HP

[full mesa]

Either they have some sort of challenge or they don't know how.

[toxic cobalt]

Probably the second one, people off-typing with ease don't usually ask questions here.

[north crown]

dual phys strike bug type team is able to do this don't worry

[white gale]

Since Alder is neutered against Sinnoh bug-weak, can SST Red off-type it? (Ash is unfortanately more special attack)

[mellow linden]

I’d be surprised if he couldn’t

[white gale]

OK. I can throw in Volkner too just to keep Electric Terrain going forever if needed

[full mesa]

You can try. Need a good support like SSBlue. But are you sure you don't have any other bug striker?

[white gale]

I have Alder, Burgh, 1/5 Lusamine

I have SS Blue Ex'd

thankfully Bug -weak was not running at the same time as electric-weak, at least not in May

[full mesa]

Not really. Aaron is physically buffed. You can use Ash against him.

[north crown]

even so you got both kanto master fairs so it wouldn't be a big problem

[full mesa]

I remember using Clemont. Special Attack.

[swift swan]

Guzma/Lusamine/Hilbert can do it but I think it needs some perfect quadqueueing

[swift swan]

Hau can clear electric-weak under terrain, easy

[wicked pebble]

How's this look? This good for this week?

Or should I switch anyone out?

[old orchid]

All of them are overkill

[trail smelt]

Lol Kanto won’t know what hit them

[mellow linden]

I recommend swapping SSA Cynthia and Spring Burgh since Bea will get significantly boosted by that adjustment, but other than that looks fine

[white gale]

Bug weak Sinnoh is Lucian with Wise Entry x 2

[full mesa]

Exactly. Elec weak is Aaron with vespiqueen and he has def entry x2. Meaning you can use Special attackers against him and physical against Lucian.

[white gale]

ah I see. very true. thanks!

[crisp dragon]

week 4 today
Bug weak blue 😔

[tired sleet]

Bug weak huh

Let see if alder can do it

[dark osprey]

could even try Nolan & Bugsy if trying to on-type. there's always great offtypes though

[white gale]

Alder can, since opponent doesn't have Wise Entry x 2 like Sinnoh bug-weak (Lucian) does - that's a big middle finger to Alder

[trail smelt]

Gonna nuke Blue with Alder AND EX Guzma

[swift swan]

He can, no worries

[crisp dragon]

death

[eternal lodge]

simply absol

[trail smelt]

Haha man

This week got completely crushed

Ready to do the same next week too

[keen jasper]

Done with my very first monotype clear

[spring fable]

my first time doing this week, if i fail can i reset?

[trail smelt]

Fail how?

If you lose you can try again with the current team or change it completely

The problem is when you win with a team full of OP units and you later realized you could have split them up and you needed one of them to beat the other rounds

[eternal lodge]

Already done this week so I prepared the teams for the next one, how fun do they look?

[spring fable]

@swift swan i tried making my own teams this week, but not sure how to proceed

any thoughts?

[eternal lodge]

You could save up girafarig for lance since Mewtwo is already overkill for bruno

[spring fable]

r4 lorelei for permanent electric terrain
r3 bruno for stat lowering with lucian

[spring fable]

my mewtwo does not have mega and ex

[eternal lodge]

As far as I know, it already does a shit ton of DMG without sync

[spring fable]

also, want to do 850 clears with all

okie i'll swap them

if i move lucian to lance then i'll do lance r3 i think

[swift swan]

The Ash team just needs a solid tank.
Giovanni team is good.
Blue is unnecessary for the Agatha team. do you have Nessa for Jaw Lock DPS? Nessa + Masked Royal never fails me for dark weak
Sycamore has good Moonblast DPS and just needs a crit buffer. also needs a physical defense buffer because I think Lance is physical
Blue team is good

[spring fable]

i dont have nessa and masked royal

[swift swan]

ah

Karen can work with her expanded grid I guess, mine's still 2/5 so I never use her

[spring fable]

mine's 5/5

[swift swan]

Worth a try then. thing is, both Karen and Blue fight for first sync because they can only do good DPS after mega

[spring fable]

whats a good def buffer for sycamore

[swift swan]

Hop, if you don't use him anywhere else. He's also a good tank for Lance

especially if you somehow end up postsyncing Lance. Lance has a nasty giga impact after sync and Hop can reduce the damage taken if he's at full HP

aaand Hop is also a crit buffer! just reset for TM MPR to get max crit

[spring fable]

okie!

thoughts on fight order?

[formal vigil]

For Karen team replace blue for viola or BP erika

[spring fable]

wait i can put lugia in blue's spot

r1 lance
r2 agatha
r3 bruno
r4 lorelei?

[formal vigil]

Yeah that works

[spring fable]

awesome! wish me luck

[swift swan]

I haven't checked the game yet, idk what round params we have this week

[swift swan]

Lugia is a bit gauge heavy but he's also great at gauge control by juggling his TMs, so I think you'll be fine. he can help with DPS on the sides

[swift swan]

hmmm Rosa is a bit redundant there. do you have Lisia?

[spring fable]

i do not

i put her there as spatk buff

[swift swan]

ah she can help with moonblast spam

[swift swan]

sycamore can max sp atk on sync anyway

[spring fable]

ah

[swift swan]

anyway, this is good

[spring fable]

whats good? dawn?

[swift swan]

Dawn can work, yeah

just remember to disable "no stat reduction"

[spring fable]

she can full restore XD

[swift swan]

and let her tank, then

Dawn has a potent nuke

[spring fable]

tank with dawn > hop?

[swift swan]

Dawn, so she can passively debuff Lance's attack

although this means you're misisng out on Freevenge

[spring fable]

hmm

[swift swan]

I think just throw any extra damage dealer

[spring fable]

swap dawn for dmg dealer?

1/5 decidueye?

[swift swan]

Uhhh not that good

[spring fable]

hmm i just did lance

i dont think i needed the 3rd member

i replaced dawn with blue

and he died first despite hop tanking

next up, agatha

[swift swan]

Well yeah, he's frail after all

[spring fable]

cleared agatha with both falkner and ethan dying

T^T

next up, bruno

ungridded karen

my dumbass used lucian although i picked no status reduction

okie done!

[toxic cobalt]

[swift swan]

Nice job!

[sharp leaf]

Any team recommendations for agatha? I'm on round 3 so I've got stat lowering bonus

This is the state of my dark types

[trail smelt]

You could nuke with either Sydney or Karen. Is Karen Gridded?

[sharp leaf]

Yeah she's gridded

I gave it a few attempts with her and ss leaf for stat debuff but I kept getting blasted by sync move

My params are kinda screwy though since I wanted to let leaf do her thing with stat lower and status condition

This is my first attempt at 10k mm

[manic mica]

can lounge lilie do 2k without fairy zone

[formal vigil]

Yes

[manic mica]

hmm

i might try

[main crow]

Perhaps with post sync parameter yeah

[manic mica]

but i'll probably offtype fairy weak again

for a karen team, her sync first before ex support sync or?

[formal vigil]

Yes sync with Karen first

[undone ether]

Wwww

Take This Lorelei

[manic mica]

草

ss elesa works well with karen right?

[main crow]

Is caitlin tanking for your dark team? I don't have her personally but I feel like what she offers should be enough to survive one sync assuming the points you picked are what's recommended here

[undone ether]

Went with this team

[manic mica]

oof, i dont have either supports

[undone ether]

Mmhmm

[formal vigil]

You can replace Rachel with viola and jasmine with either kiawe or falkner

[manic mica]

noted

also viola? who's her mon, im bad with trainer names

[main crow]

Surskuit

Bug type 4*

[manic mica]

ah the one from kalos

makes sense, spatk down

aight thanks guys

[main crow]

Time for some rng fun next week to enable max inertia

[keen jasper]

Definitely, just need someone to buff her crit

[manic mica]

does she need to be 5 star

[sharp leaf]

That's what I ended up doing! I lowered the points a bit as well, I probably should have tried it with the recommended params first for full points, but I'll take it

Just finished the run, my highest score yet

Got all the cs so I'm good with that

[nova galleon]

Any team suggestions

[manic mica]

holy crap she almost 1 hit lance

she's a beast wtf

[main crow]

Congrats 🎉 you're getting close there! And yes I do recommend looking into the recommended points here

[swift swan]

Ayyy nice job!

[bleak eagle]

Would this round order work?

Also ye, i have to offtype the champ, only bug unit build is aron

[swift swan]

You have a lot of great damage dealers you can offtype with. Ash, SS Steven, Cyrus, Maxie, and Archie can carry in their respective teams, you just need to bring suitable supports. Also in the future, I recommend using the sync pair tracker https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/ to track your units. You can then download it as a single image and send it here instead of sending walls of pics

[main crow]

Can't speak for fairy but the rest should be fine imo, is this hard mode or MM?

[bleak eagle]

10k mm

And ye i was thinkin of changing up the fairy team a bit, feels like falkner just exists there

Maybe hopp instead? Idk

[main crow]

Mina is physical yeah?

[bleak eagle]

Ye

[swift swan]

Either falkner and Hop can work in that team, it doesn't matter too much imo

At least with Falkner, you don't have to rely on RNG for max crit buffs

[bleak eagle]

What abt round order? That's okay?

[swift swan]

Looks good enough

[bleak eagle]

Guzma huh?

[main crow]

Yeah round order looks good enough

[bleak eagle]

Never tought abt ex'ing him, or using him at all. He good?

[undone ether]

he hits hard

but yeah

i mean Alakazam anyways

[main crow]

He's outclassed but he's the only gen pool physical bug with an EX

[dusty path]

Just thought I'd share this... Did Blue this week infinite field effects with SS Morty, Melony and SS Lyra. Something like 6 field effects, and easy infinite stalling (sleep and 100% flinch)

[jovial fulcrum]

the karen team was funny af

[keen jasper]

#1010274591601598555

[jovial fulcrum]

[full mesa]

Easy MM this week. But then again perma field + SSLyra make everything easy.

[toxic cobalt]

Perma field?

[swift swan]

I also used perma field with ss lyra this week

[toxic cobalt]

SS Lyra solo?

[long thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-simpsons-bart-simpson-monday-monday-sucks-gif-4480061

[swift swan]

nah no way, I'm not patient enough for that

[full mesa]

Ι don't have ex but I might try it. Against who tho?

[digital mauve]

Tips for Bruno? Running Bianca-Musharna/Gio-Mewtwo/Sabrina Alakazam and getting stomped. Think I neeed to use like Roxanne instead.

[north crown]

either that, or you're running sabrina as your tank, in that case do NOT as her physical defense sucks ass

bianca can serve good enough of a tank

if you ahve any other max sp atk supports that are better then go for those

[frosty axle]

f2p run now posted https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1026479104259801158

[mellow linden]

I mean, Sabrina can be run as your tank if you want, it’s just a bit more reliant on the opponent 1) not opening with Close Combat, and 2) actually using self-buffs instead of going full offense.

Source: Used Sabrina as my tank via Psychic Squad™️

Going after Bruno on Round 4 helps so that you can just plop down field effects without worry

On another note, it’s hilarious that they didn’t bother coding Agatha’s Trainer Move to not KO herself

[austere quest]

Psychic and Lightning Stages are pretty funny

Managing to clear them before Sync is

[keen jasper]

There are plenty of psychic units in this game

[austere quest]

Yee

I just love my SS Steven

[mellow linden]

I’m partial to Caitlin as my Psychic damage-dealer myself

[full mesa]

I've been trying to recreate the moment from 2 weeks ago. It was so fun.

[mellow linden]

I saw it was happening for me this week and immediately began hovering my fingers over the buttons for screenshot

[long thicket]

Alright, so...

Lorelei: I have the Pikachus
Bruno: I have Giovanni and Bianca, both EXes. I also have Lucian EX, so he might be a good sync option
Agatha: I have Darkrai and Sidney's sync.
Lance: I have both Gardevoir, with an EX Diantha
Blue: Subway bros. costumes

But 2k might make this a lot harder than that.

[main crow]

This is kanto with what you have 2k is still piss easy

[full mesa]

Are you kidding us? You're mora than loaded.

[long thicket]

Thanks, but I'm very concerned about 2k still.

I struggled last week.

So I'm easily scared.
Also, I might pick the wrong options.

[main crow]

4/5 of them can easily pre sync thhis CSMM

[long thicket]

Post-sync parameters.

[main crow]

Ah wait before that are bug bros EX?

Or at least Emmet

[long thicket]

Also, while I'm here, it's not useful for this week, but who syncs stronger between Lucas and Serena (non-EX)
I feel like I should sync with Lucas since Serena has a 4 gauge move that hits everyone like her EX would.
And uh, not really.

I do have EXes for Alder, Guzma and Lusamine.

[main crow]

Hmm well if you're doing bug weak pre sync they're all suitable, physical preferably but again this is kanto lol

[long thicket]

Well, Mewtwo lost half HP from Earthquake, so...

[main crow]

Who's your support?

[long thicket]

Sabrina.
(I have no idea why Jasmine's name pop up in my head first, not the first time it happened)

I know she can heal while boosting stats.

But there she lost in one hit.

[main crow]

Hhmmm yeah Sabrina and physical attack don't go well together

[long thicket]

I can go offtype, I know, but my other options for Psychic are Liza and Dawn.

[full mesa]

Fat pig can stop Bruno at post sync. That's how I did him. Fat 🐷/Lucian/SStevenEx

[long thicket]

Oh yeah, forgot I had Steven...

[main crow]

Lucian/SSteven/Bianca mayhaps

[long thicket]

Sync with Bianca since she's EX, I'm guessing.

[main crow]

Steven if he's ex

[long thicket]

See what I mean when I say having great units doesn't mean these are a given?

Lost to Agatha as well.

[main crow]

Sleep chain her to death

[long thicket]

No status conditions allowed.

[main crow]

Remove the no status condition

Change it smth else, usually I go with 2^ hp

[long thicket]

It's possible that I just don't understand this game.

And my three Dark Pokemon just lose at the sync anyway.

Lorelei is done.

[main crow]

Bring Hop to Agatha

As support, he'd be able to max what sidney needs while he brutal swings everything before sync

[long thicket]

Let's see...

[mellow linden]

SS Serena always takes 1st Sync. From there if she’s not EX it won’t matter too much who Syncs from 2nd Sync onwards

[long thicket]

I see, thanks.

And uh, that sync with Sidney was good, but I still lost.

Still at the sync.

[mellow linden]

For your Agatha fight, if you haven’t already make sure “No Status Conditions” and “No Stat Reductions” are turned off

SS Cyrus should be able to sleep stall at least a little

[long thicket]

I did remove status conditions, but not stat reduction.

[mellow linden]

And lower stats when he does

Iirc SS Cyrus has a passive that lowers a random stat when he inflicts a status

[main crow]

The stalling should be able to take down center before Agatha could sync

[long thicket]

Okay, wasn't as smooth as it should've been, but it's done.
Thanks.

[mellow linden]

No problem. Who’s left to take on?

[long thicket]

The guys.

[mellow linden]

Bruno, Lance, Blue, got it

[long thicket]

I have EX Striker and Tech zone setter combos for each.

Well, my go to striker for Bug isn't EX, but I have options.

[mellow linden]

Lance 3rd, Bruno 4th, IMO

SS Wally will lower stats, so round 3 effect works better for him, and if you’re running Sabrina on the team for Bruno then you can take more advantage of perma field effects

[full mesa]

@long thicket you mate have great units. Now, either you're missing grids or you don't fully understand the basic mechanics of MM. Keep playing and trying out strategies. Both resources and experience only come through playing.

You don't run Sabrina with SSteven when you have Bianca. She sets terrain and Lucian drops stats. Only sync with SSteven. Ex or not under terrain you deal 50% more damage.

[long thicket]

Yeah, I don't think I have every best combination in mind.

I've avoided champion stadium until this January, so after 9 months of playing and getting units.

[digital mauve]

dont forget your can always off type

[long thicket]

Yeah, but...
Don't I need a great duo for that?

Obviously, the Pikachus are great for this, I've also managed it once with Zygarde and Dialga.

[mellow linden]

EX SS Serena can off-type most stages even without Lucas

[long thicket]

Last week, I kinda cheesed and clutched with Lugia on Water weak, but it was very close.

[full mesa]

You have Palkia for water weak. Just bring rain.

[long thicket]

Alright, so what should I use with the Gardevoir?

[zealous karma]

That seems low for absol

[long thicket]

There's Bede and Allister's dynamax moves, but since they're not support, I don't know if that's smart.

Nevermind, not Allister, I got him confused with someone else.

Bede can't help, but having him survive would be a struggle.

Yeah, I can't do it with an EX support either.

[mellow linden]

Try Roxanne and Sync with Diantha 1st

Make sure you’re able to lower stats

If Wally is only 1/5 then you may want to try a different Support

If need be, try Rosa (or another Sp. Atk. Support) + Skyla + Diantha and Sync with Diantha, that’s what I did for 2k Lance

[peak stirrup]

Should I use physical or special vs Blue?

[mellow linden]

I don’t think either one is favored over the other

He doesn’t lower Attack or Sp. Atk. and Kanto CS doesn’t have any Wise Entry/Sentry Entry gimmicks

[peak stirrup]

Hmm. Maybe it’s finally time to use Alder, haven’t used him since I picked him from the special scout.

Pair him with Jasmine and Blue for perma MGA, Vigi, and stat reduction

Between them they can max his defense and Blue can up his special defense via passive

[north crown]

but blue uses Alakazam, which only uses special attacks

[zealous karma]

And has defense crush for some reason

[void estuary]

if i usually 2k off type red/ash pikachus should i use it on electric this week?

my teams pretty bad on all the champion types this week except for electric D:

[manic mica]

you can make teams for both of them seperately

[swift swan]

If you don't have much options for the other stages, split Red and Ash, use them on 2 separate teams. So at least that's 2 teams covered

[keen jasper]

Yeah, at least have Volkner on Ash's team

[hardy mica]

any speculation on what units are being foreshadowed by next week's cs weaknesses?

[keen jasper]

We'll find out this week

[void estuary]

Lance is whooping my booty

😭

[formal vigil]

Hmm I used a similar team though I used giovanni perisian over ss elesa though since you probably don't have him you could use roxanne or even better sabrina if you have her

Also tank with sycamore and sync with wally first having access to his buddy move help with damage and survival grately

[keen jasper]

Lance is mostly physical, so use a defense buffer

Sycamore can't fully sustain himself if Lance does Double Edge immediately

[iron oar]

Do I have a team for Blue? I'm trying 1500 MM

[formal vigil]

Try using cyrus ,may falkner

[swift swan]

what params are you using? and can you record what happened if possible? wally should destroy lance

[manic mica]

oh man next week

both my fire and grass use the same ex support

[main crow]

Bring egg tech vulpix to fire stage and pre sync it with boosted Silver under sun

[dusty path]

Who? Just throwing names around here, but... Lyra?

[manic mica]

yep.

[manic mica]

i dont have updated grid for silver

[main crow]

Oof ouch

[toxic cobalt]

Still doable

Good supports will get him through

[long thicket]

Yeah, he's 1/5.

[long thicket]

I'll try this.
Rosa is EX, but still Diantha sync

[mellow linden]

Yep, I Synced with Diantha on advice from someone else and it seems to work well

I ended up using NY Sabrina for my Sp. Atk. Support, but Rosa with 1 MP Refresh will work just as well

I should point out that you should just spam Moonblast on Diantha once she’s maxed her crit and rely on Sync to handle the sides until Lance goes down. If you don’t KO him quickly enough he’ll start spamming Giga Impact and Double Edge exclusively, which will murder your team.

If your Rosa has access to On a Roll from her grid you may want to consider using that and turning off “No Stat Reductions”

[void estuary]

2k post sync. I managed to kill center but can't finish the sides. My wally isn't orbed if that makes a difference ?

[swift swan]

hmmm at 1/5 I don't know what he gets. I wouldn't recommend postsyncing Lance though. he gets nasty postsync with giga impact

Wally and Sycamore should be able to finish him off presync

[long thicket]

She's 1/5, so I don't think so.

[toxic cobalt]

Bruno successfully beaten with 3* Tate. What a Bruno moment.

[formal vigil]

[long thicket]

I'm still scared, tbh, but let's see.

So in other of target, Skyla, Rosa, Diantha?

My Diantha is 2/5, btw, so she can't get sync buffs from the grid.

[void estuary]

Easy pz 😄 pre sync ty!! Nice tip

Just finished it

[long thicket]

Skyla has a weakness somewhere...

Neither team worked...

I don't think I can do it.

[toxic cobalt]

How close are you getting and is Skyla gridded?

[void estuary]

How should I go about this ? I'm scared 😱

[toxic cobalt]

Giovanni for Bruno

SS Cyrus and some dark for Agatha. Do you have Nessa?

[void estuary]

Nessa w the turtle ?

[main crow]

Yes

[void estuary]

Yup

[main crow]

Her jaw lock is strong

[toxic cobalt]

Easy win

[long thicket]

She is.
And I'm not close at all.

I do pitiful damage.

[toxic cobalt]

That feels odd if you have a +4spatk +3 crit Diantha

Actually a +6spatk

Can you screenshot?

[long thicket]

What exactly?
Skyla's grid is this.

https://pokemon-masters-stuff.github.io/?e=0&grid=AAECAwQFExQVFxgmKCks&o=750&p=Swanna&s=3#/

[toxic cobalt]

Good grid

Screenshot at the point of your second sync

[long thicket]

Well I don't even get there.

[toxic cobalt]

Your opponent's first sync then

[long thicket]

And that's Roxanne's.
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/4400/47600?s=3&l=140&r=3&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFExYXGRocHiAjJCU

Okay, I'll try.

[toxic cobalt]

Roxanne?

[void estuary]

Sub top left for gengar agatha?

[long thicket]

Oh sorry, I got the two teams mixed up.

[toxic cobalt]

Depends if you want nessa to self-buff or not

I'd run with Surgechu

[long thicket]

F...

I beat Lance, but lost to the other two.

I'm just not good.

If that's the easiest one, then I suck at this.

[mellow linden]

What parameters are you using?

[long thicket]

Post-sync, but with a few differences.

[mellow linden]

Those being?

[long thicket]

No Status condition/stats reduction changed for Defense+1 and HP+2
And -2 gauge replaced by HP+6

I'm sorry if I sound dramatic, btw.

[mellow linden]

Well there's a significant source of your problem

[long thicket]

I'm an optimist and I know it's not worth feeling bad about it.

I'm aware I do mistakes too.

[mellow linden]

Run with the lower move gauge, otherwise they have way too much HP

[long thicket]

I see, I'll try.

(I really don't like that parameter, but if that's a necessary evil...)

[mellow linden]

With proper gauge support/management on a team it's rarely (if ever) an issue

If Skyla is properly gridded her gauge cost is effectively 0, for example

[toxic cobalt]

-2 gauge is a free 300 points!

Always run it!

Never run defense !!!

No wonder you aren't doing damage

[mellow linden]

Well, the lowest tier Defense and HP parameters are fine if they're to replace No Status Conditions and No Stat Reductions

[long thicket]

Isn't HP refill kinda random, though?

[toxic cobalt]

Strength is better

[long thicket]

Sorry, not HP.

Trainer moves and healing.

[mellow linden]

Though might as well get rid of the defense parameter and turn on No Status Conditions for that team

[toxic cobalt]

Random?

[long thicket]

Sometimes I get more uses of these, sometimes I don't.

[mellow linden]

Skyla's Potion MP Refresh is RNG, yeah. Though since she has 2 of those tiles in her grid she's more likely to get a Potion back than other pairs are

[toxic cobalt]

You mean mpr? It is random and this can break runs but not when you have Skyla

+6 speed should have your gauge galloping along

[mellow linden]

And Skyla herself basically has 0 gauge cost if you have her Gust Move Gauge Refresh tile since that one always activates

[toxic cobalt]

Never been sold on gust mgr myself. Prefer the flinch chance.

[mellow linden]

Quick question: You're able to survive Lance's Sync, correct?

[long thicket]

Yes.

I'm ever so grateful for your patience, by the way.

[mellow linden]

So you can survive Lance's Sync, but you said you can't make it to your 2nd Sync...

You're triple-queueing, right?

[long thicket]

Actually, I did the previous time.

[mellow linden]

That's good. So you are triple-queueing?

[long thicket]

I can lose both Rosa and Skyla quickly, though.
And yes, I usually do.

Although I have one struggle.

Activating the sync as soon as it hits 0 isn't a consistent thing for me.

[mellow linden]

Wdym

[long thicket]

Well, sometimes, I have moves before the sync.

[mellow linden]

Ah

[long thicket]

I can activate the sync only after I used other moves.

[toxic cobalt]

That's what's meant to happen. You should have fully queued moves when the counter is at 3, and you have to wait for them all to finish to sync.

[mellow linden]

So, when you're doing your last set of 3, wait until you've queued Sync to queue other moves

[trail smelt]

Diantha pisses me off honestly

[mellow linden]

Diantha's Propulsion may sometimes activate and leave you at a bit less than 3 when you do your 3rd round of moves

[trail smelt]

She wants to sync first

[long thicket]

Oh shoot, I forgot to deactivate status condition (even though I got Dragonite scared)

I'll try with status off.

This isn't going very well either.

Usually faulty of potions RNG.

[mellow linden]

Shouldn't need that much in the way of Potion RNG, but I've thought of a possible alternative team. Do you have Classic Giovanni (the one with Persian)?

[long thicket]

Yes.

Not EX, though.

[mellow linden]

Doesn't need EX

[long thicket]

Alright.

[mellow linden]

You could try SS Wally + Diantha + Classic Giovanni.

The upsides over the Diantha-only team:

• Should have much higher damage output.

• Should be able to worry less about sides once Lance goes down due to SS Wally.

The downsides:

• Less survivability, meaning that faster clear it should provide is very needed.

• Possible more gauge-hungry.

• You will need to fish for Giovanni's Trainer Move MP Refresh. Use it turn 1 and if he doesn't get the refresh, reset and try again

[long thicket]

That worked, oh gosh...

Actually, I kept Skyla with Giovanni...

[mellow linden]

Oh

Yeah, that would work too

[long thicket]

So, I have to do Bruno next.

I have EX Giovanni, EX Bianca for zone, or EX Lucian instead.

[mellow linden]

Should be an easy time with Bianca + Sabrina + EX Giovanni

[long thicket]

If I recall, Sabrina's trainer move on Giovanni twice?

[mellow linden]

Yep

[long thicket]

Doing it right away instead of healing?

[mellow linden]

Exactly

[long thicket]

*waiting for it to heal as well.

I think I tried that before, but let's see...

[mellow linden]

If Sabrina is your tank then you'll need to RNG reset for 1) Bruno to not lead with Close Combat, and 2) the opponent to actually use 1 or 2 self-buffs instead of going all-out offense

And you'll want to do Trainer Move -> Reflect -> Trainer Move for Sabrina's 1st 3 turns regardless of whether she's tank, after 1st Sync (whoever does it) she can Dire Hit All to help Bianca's damage output

I'm guessing it'd be best to RNG reset so Bruno doesn't lead with Close Combat regardless, but you could try Bianca as your tank if Sabrina as tank isn't working out

[void estuary]

What's my setup for darkrai +- turtle ?

And who's my 3rd poke for dark 😮

[mellow linden]

What did you filter for here, exactly?

[void estuary]

Someone told me to use Agatha

Filter is just dark poison ghost

[long thicket]

Sabrina isn't a very good tank.

[mellow linden]

Wouldn't recommend Agatha, tbh. Could try Roxanne + SS Cyrus + Karen or Hilbert (if you have him at 3/5) + Sidney + Nessa

[mellow linden]

Could try Bianca tank then

[void estuary]

Here

[mellow linden]

Just make sure Bruno doesn't lead with Close Combat

[long thicket]

First target?
I did grid her with defense, then.

[mellow linden]

They were recommending teams to fight Agatha, not to use Agatha

[mellow linden]

1st target, yeah

[void estuary]

Oh!!!

[long thicket]

Earthquake isn't good either

[mellow linden]

Probably depends on the team with Earthquake. I know that it wasn't a major issue when I used Caitlin for the damage-dealer

[long thicket]

It was doing very well, but then the sync happened.

[mellow linden]

Who Synced 1st?

On your team

[long thicket]

Giovanni.
Sabrina isn't EX.

[mellow linden]

Just making sure

If Sync is the issue you'll have to quadqueue, should be more than doable thanks to perma field effects on round 4

Though I'm surprised Bruno survived long enough to Sync

[long thicket]

Defeated him before sync this time.

Just before, tho.

[mellow linden]

Yeah, Bruno dying before he Syncs should be a pretty regular thing with one of the Psychic Squad™️ variants

...Did you go back to running HP 6 instead of Move Gauge -2?

[long thicket]

No.

[mellow linden]

Ok, good

Was worried for a second

[void estuary]

Woah!! Absol is one of my fave pokes. Is he actually useful?!

[mellow linden]

Sidney + Absol has a pretty great Sync nuke, yeah

Can definitely do Hilbert + Sidney + Nessa, Sidney Syncs, Nessa is regular move damage

[long thicket]

Absol has a great sync, and if you have Darkrai...

I ended up having better sync damage with Absol than Zoroark (as much as I like the Pokemon)

[mellow linden]

SS Cyrus could work, but I worry somewhat about your non-Sync damage output if it's him + Sidney as the damage dealers. Definitely something you can try though

[void estuary]

Skip dark rai on absol team?

Oo whoops u just answered

[long thicket]

So, for Blue, I have the subway bros for bug.
Emmet isn't EX, hope that's okay.

[mellow linden]

Should be fine

[long thicket]

Otherwise, I have 3 EX Bug strikers.

[void estuary]

My absol is 2/5 is that enough ?

[mellow linden]

I believe so, if it doesn't work out you can always change up team structure

[long thicket]

I usually have Aaron as a support with them with his one gauge moves

[mellow linden]

Aaron works great with SC Subway bros, yeah

[long thicket]

I can EX him too, just would need to sacrifice the spirits.

[trail smelt]

I can attest to Sydney being a great dark nuker haha

[mellow linden]

EX would be helpful, but I don't think it's necessary for this fight

[long thicket]

Well I'll try like that.

Better sync between Ingo and Emmet?

[void estuary]

Should I post or pre sync vs agatha?

[long thicket]

Ingo, Emmet by FAR.

[void estuary]

Ooo what Sydney team did you use?

[trail smelt]

Well

Right now I’m using Karen more than Sydney

[mellow linden]

Depends on how confident you are in your ability to KO Agatha before she Syncs

[long thicket]

Blue was the easiest for me, ironically.

[trail smelt]

But Sydney’s still part of the team lol.

[mellow linden]

Congrats!

[long thicket]

Thanks.
Especially for your patience.

[trail smelt]

If you have The Masked Royal they work great together. Since Sydney almost caps himself he doesn’t need an offensive buffer, can bring defenses or speed

[mellow linden]

No problem, it's what this channel is for

[long thicket]

Oh, also, I never thought about Lunala for Fairy damage.

[mellow linden]

Eh, I wouldn't recommend that. Diantha's Moonblast should hit harder and if you're doubling up on damage-dealers you've got SS Wally

[void estuary]

Could I off type w this ?

I'm struggling using the dark team lol

[mellow linden]

You have Courtney?

[void estuary]

No :*(

[mellow linden]

I'm doubtful of the off-type potential for that team then, though I guess you could try it.

Alternatively you could run a Karen team

[toxic cobalt]

What happened to the Nessa Sidney team?

[mellow linden]

They're having trouble with it, apparently

[toxic cobalt]

I see a 3/5 Hilbert.

Nessa Sidney Hilbert should rip it apart.

[mellow linden]

Yeah, I figure Hilbert + Nessa + Sidney would work too

[toxic cobalt]

I'm trying to beat her with Norman I may not manage to

[keen silo]

bruh moment

[robust barn]

a quick general reminder to post your CS/MM clears in #1010274591601598555 instead of here, please

[lunar meadow]

Imagine off-typing...

When you could just mono type everything!

[manic kiln]

mono off-type

[lunar meadow]

I did that too, lol

[void estuary]

This is what I have left for bruno 😮 any good off type team here? I'm saving electric for blue

[mellow linden]

No Bianca?

[void estuary]

All I have for psychic :*(

[mellow linden]

Ah

Might still be able to do on-type with Lucian + Giovanni + a Sp. Atk. Support, but checking back at your earlier roster post you have SS Morty + SS Red + Lyra as an off-type team

[void estuary]

I used fire squad to beat Agatha 😮

[mellow linden]

Hilbert + Sidney + Nessa had that much trouble?

[void estuary]

Yeah :*( I'm not good enough

[mellow linden]

You’ll improve over time. I guess you could try Winona (May might be better if you have her) + Cyrus + a Support

SS Blue would be a solid one

[keen silo]

Was forced to ;), my psychics die too fast and don't do enough damage

(for 2k)

[lunar meadow]

When 1500 was the max, I always ran Granbull, Mewtwo, ex Serperior

But I think Bruno sometimes has impervious now... No more charm shenanigans

[mellow linden]

Oh wait, does Bruno have Impervious this week?

[keen silo]

No

[mellow linden]

Just checked, thank goodness he doesn’t

[lunar meadow]

Haha, he doesn't always

[keen silo]

If he had it would just drive me up a wall lmao

[lunar meadow]

Mewtwo/Musharna is still a great combo though

[mellow linden]

It’s very unorthodox, but a team of Lucian + Caitlin + Sonia might be doable against Bruno

[keen silo]

Close combat still takes 200+ hp off ssacynthia in my fight 💀taking into account +6 def and -4 attack iirc

[void estuary]

I just unlocked mewtwo I guess I could use him for bruno?

[mellow linden]

Giovanni + Mewtwo is a great option for Bruno

[keen silo]

Yeah he's the way to go for Bruno

[mellow linden]

Could try him + Lucian + Rosa if she’s available

Would need to speed clear a little bit with Rosa, so if you have a Sp. Atk. Support with more survivability they’d be better. SS Elesa would actually be a solid option

An important thing to keep in mind is to have “No Stat Reductions” turned off if you’re using Lucian. That way he can lower the opponents’ Atk./Sp. Def. with Growl

[keen silo]

^

[lunar meadow]

Mewtwo needs a support that buffs his special attack. Many supports make him work.

But he is squishy and would die to Bruno's sync if you don't lower his attack or buff your defense.

Cobalt's recommendation of Girafarig would be a great partner for Mewtwo (lowers enemies offense and defense, helps your speed).

[mellow linden]

Sorry, adjusted to Atk./Sp. Def. for Lucian’s debuff potential because I goofed initially

Thinking on it, definitely try Giovanni + Lucian + SS Elesa. Lucian handles Speed buffs and Attack/Sp. Def. debuffs, Giovanni buffs his own crit and deals damage, SS Elesa handles Sp. Atk. buffs and can use her Trainer Move after your 1st Sync to eliminate the need for quadqueue

[void estuary]

Gave it a few attempts. Would post sync be easier ?

[mellow linden]

Get Giovanni to 3/5 so you actually have his grid

[void estuary]

How do I get more dupes again? 😮

[mellow linden]

You can get his dupes from the general section of the shop, if you don’t have enough stuff to get him to at least 3/5 then go back to his portion of Legendary Adventures

And of course, make sure to 20/20 him with his custom 5-star powerups

[keen silo]

Are you doing master mode? If so, how many pts are you aiming for?

[void estuary]

2k

[keen silo]

Don't think gio survives postsync and even then, you'd have to one shot the sides after killing the center

[void estuary]

😱

Is pre sync doable?

[mellow linden]

Might be a bit of a close fight, but probably

Just make sure you’re triple queueing and use SS Elesa’s Trainer Move after your 1st Sync

[lunar meadow]

Yikes, 1/5 Mewtwo 😅

I assumed he didn't have EX or Mega, but at least get the grids, my man!

[keen silo]

I haven't tried with elesa honestly, but could be close , you'll need 3/5 to get Brainteaser and Smarty-Pants, which will help you a lot in your fight

[lunar meadow]

Girafarig makes sure he gets those bonuses active

[void estuary]

Woah mewtwos so squishy 😮

[mellow linden]

Yeah, that’s why Lucian’s Attack debuffs are so important

[void estuary]

Brunos aoe killed me lol

[keen silo]

very

Mewtwo survives one aoe at most

[lunar meadow]

That team is insanely strong lol.

I just tested it. Didn't get a mpr on rotoms xatk, still chunked.
Sadly I cannot turn off EX to see how it functions without the aoe sync

[void estuary]

:*(

[mellow linden]

Bruno should not be able to Sync before you’re able to Sync twice. Is SS Elesa going down early?

[void estuary]

Yeah Elsa dies in like 2 hits

Sometimes 3

😭😭😭

[mellow linden]

Is she gridded?

[void estuary]

No

[keen silo]

Boss hits really hard

[mellow linden]

Get Agile Entry, X Sp. Atk. MP Refresh, and Trainer Move MP Refresh tiles at minimum

[lunar meadow]

I was able to win with
1/5 Girafarig
3/5 Rotom
3/5 Mewtwo

Using Girafarig sync (to make sure no EX influence), without crit buffs on the Girafarig.

Mewtwo survived the first earthquake, enemy sync, and a rock slide at the end

[mellow linden]

Unfortunately I gotta head out for a bit, so I wish you the best and if need be will continue to assist once I’m available again

[frank shuttle]

Freaking Ash getting his sync really quick KO everything

[keen silo]

This should say a lot. -6ATK close combat

[void estuary]

I got a bit farther do you spam growl the entire match ?

[keen silo]

yeah

[lunar meadow]

Yes

[void estuary]

My first sync should be mewtwo rotom or girfag?

[keen silo]

Lucian mainly acts as a speed buffer and debuffer respectively

[lunar meadow]

Ideally, Mewtwo sync I think first.

Unless you have EX Rotom.

I think Girafarig second sync will get max effective benefit from his first entry passive

Oh wait. He doesn't really need that.

Girafarig single target sync is pretty good, though

I really wish I could toggle off EX to test whether Mewtwo or Girafarig sync works better here lol

[keen silo]

@void estuary If you plan to try this out, use Elesa's TM on Girafarig after first sync^^

[void estuary]

Okay. How come elsas tm is best after a sync ?

[keen silo]

+2 crit rate and acc instead of +1 (before sync)

[lunar meadow]

If you get a MPR on her TM, you'd ideally use two on Girafarig anyway.

But without MPR, you get more from the post-sync usage

[keen silo]

40%, not too bad of odds but I'd play it safe if I can 😅

[void estuary]

NOOOO

We did it!!! Cleared it!!!! Thanks guys!!!

[lunar meadow]

Congrats!

I need to use Girafarig more, myself.
I forget I have it sometimes

[keen silo]

Sometimes i forget elesa can be a tank, congrats on clearing 🥳!

[lunar meadow]

Lol, Elesa is my old main tank

In BV, potionchu/Rotom/Charizard was my team

It's annoying that Bruno has accuracy boosts in CS

[quaint solar]

What are people using to win against blue the bug type arena. I am using the Kanto trio and blue gets 3 shot every time

[north crown]

hard mode or master mode?

oh wait there's no type medal bunos at the bottom, so MM

who are you sun nuking with?

• if SSRed: bring attack support. SSRed's grid has a sync multiplier that increases his damage with physical attack buffs
• if SSErika, bring speed or keep this team, as she has a multiplier for speed in her grid

either way, this team is pretty overkill, so idk how you're dying unless you did some stupid parameter combo

[quaint solar]

Here is the parameters

[simple storm]

U arent setting up red nuke

[quaint solar]

Here

[simple storm]

First u missed the triple queue

Also u need to sync with blue first

[mellow linden]

Is Hop not available?

[simple storm]

Also your setup is too slow

U can just give crit with blue red tm twice, 1 crit with bugsy

Then after your first sync u x attack with bugsy and spam blast burn

Until your second sync

Its not the team your mechanics from the game are making u lose

Cant u ex blue?

Otherwise hard to win

[mellow linden]

If Hop’s available he’d be a better choice than Bugsy. Handles Attack and crit, lets SS Blue start using stuff other than X Defense All faster, and provides Potion

[simple storm]

Let me try that with hop and shownu how to do ti

It

@quaint solar its gonna ver very hard to beat withought a support ex

[toxic cobalt]

Why say unhelpful things you want of sync with SSR

[quaint solar]

Sync damage is low with SSR only to 2.5K for some reason. Not going to able to 2 sync it, plus this stage is doing hella alot of damage. SS Blue can't even survive before they sync. I don't know what else to think of in winning this dam bug stage

[toxic cobalt]

2.5k on the first sync

Looking at your team I have no idea why Bugsy is there

He's not doing anything

[quaint solar]

He is their to set up haymaker

[toxic cobalt]

You can my destiny after sync if that is the goal

However it's bizarre you're doing so little with blast burn

[north crown]

@quaint solar For reference: https://youtu.be/fzjY3o_HglU?t=56

they finish the match in 5 turns using worse units

[toxic cobalt]

To be fair that's not off-type. Sun though is always good.

[north crown]

I basically did the same thing though (edit: on offtype and took around the same amount of turns. I remember being able to do it presync as well, and on harder regions, in 7 turns)

[mellow linden]

Hop would do the same thing while being overall way more beneficial (SS Red finishes his set up faster, SS Blue can move on from X Defense All faster, access to Potion, etc.)

Assuming Hop is available

[toxic cobalt]

There is always Liza actually, bumps atk and spdef

[zealous karma]

She’s one of those old really tanky units with evasion as a boost I love her (:

[mellow linden]

SS Elesa is one of my faves

Tied for top spot with the other Elesas, obviously

[white gale]

I noticed next week's CS has both Grass and Fire weak. I guess I should stick SS Morty with Fire weak since SS Erika can generate her own sun? Who would be a good support for SS Erika + SS Lyra? Hilbert seems good but is he too frail?

[old orchid]

he is not

And why do you care about a pokemon's bulk if you use SS Lyra

[white gale]

yeah I guess that team can win with most phy supports (Exeggutor, BP Surge, Aaron...)

[formal vigil]

Plus ss erika will finish the stage in a heartbeat especially with sslyra

[white gale]

Yeah I guess so. I shouldn't worry about it

[swift swan]

My friend, I run Brendan/SS Lyra/SS Erika for grass stages and win 2k hyper offensive presync. A team with SS Lyra doesn't even need a proper tank

No need to worry

[toxic cobalt]

Why run such an OP team nov?

[swift swan]

Why not aurochs

[full mesa]

I disagree. Hilbert is an excellent support for SSErika. Secondly I would keep SSMorty with SSErika and use techmon Ninetales for sun. You don't really need SSLyra with SSMorty/SSErika/Hilbert combo so keep her for a potential off type situation.

[plush tangle]

You can remove Brendan and it's about the same lol

[full mesa]

Totally.

[swift swan]

I like using Brendan, mine's EX'd

[full mesa]

Aoe damage. Ends the battle faster.

[spring fable]

@swift swan did some advance team building for csmm next week, 850 clears

Any thoughts?

[mellow linden]

If your Hilbert is 3/5 or higher he and Hop do basically the exact same things, pick one or the other. If he isn't, use a primary Speed buffer (Marley is a great option) instead of him.

If you can manage without Support EX try Roxanne instead of Rosa since Roxanne buffs Sp. Atk. and Speed.

Sycamore doesn't do a whole lot for Ash, might wanna try someone like BP Morty instead.

If SS Red is 2/5 or higher you could try Hilbert instead of SS Blue so that Red gets Haymaker. If he's only 1/5 that team should be alright.

And the Agatha team seems totally fine

[spring fable]

yea hilbert is 3/5

[swift swan]

other than what cobalt said, would you rather not ontype water-weak Bruno with the Cyrus team? then offtype Lorelei with Ash team

[swift swan]

how bout ss red? is he 2/5 or higher?

[spring fable]

he is not 😦

[mellow linden]

No big deal, for only 850 points that shouldn't be a problem in the slightest

[swift swan]

ah if he's 1/5 then the SS Red team is fine

[mellow linden]

Definitely should pick between Hop and Hilbert if Hilbert's 3/5, though

[spring fable]

damn idk how i didnt see that

[swift swan]

also I agree with Cobalt. switch Rosa out with Roxanne so your Cyrus doesn't have to cut his own HP for sp atk and speed (he needs speed for Ramming Speed on Hydro Pump). also because cyrus and may eat too much gauge

[spring fable]

okies

my rosanne is not invested, is that fine?

[mellow linden]

Get her to at least level 120 and grid her

[swift swan]

so if Ash goes to Lorelei, I do think Sycamore is fine. Ash is entirely self-sufficient anyway. Sycamore would just help buffing special defense so Ash doesn't get whittled down by Lorelei's surf

[mellow linden]

Most important tile is Trainer Move MP Refresh, other good tiles are Trainer Move Barricade Buddies and X Defense All Shielded (iirc that’s the name of the tile)

And just in case, make sure Cyrus has his Critical Focus tile

[spring fable]

got it, thanks!

[full mesa]

If you only need a spdef buffer you don't have to use something op like Sycamore.

[mellow linden]

Yeah, that’s sorta why I suggested BP Morty. Sycamore handles Sp. Def. buffs, sure, but that’s really all he provides Ash

Meanwhile, BP Morty provides both defenses, Potion, flinch, and confusion

[mellow linden]

I’ll probably be trying out a wonky comp of Glacia + BP Candice + Palentine’s Bea next week against Agatha. I EXd Glacia because I love her EX outfit, so might as well give it a shot

[mellow linden]

No Volkner?

[stoic vine]

Teams for the current run. Already cleared the 850 last week and wanna test my luck on higher levels. Most are ungridded and I plan on trying the 1500. Should I do pre or post sync. Or is that just a trial and error thing

And no sadly, haven't been able to pull him

[mellow linden]

You're gonna need to grid if you're doing 1.5k

[stoic vine]

I'm slowly gridding them. So am I better off just waiting until I get a bunch up there to do the 1.5k?

[mellow linden]

Could try Roxanne/Cyrus/May against Bruno and do something like Hop + Skyla + Solgaleo for Lance

[mellow linden]

You can give it a shot, but don't be afraid to just turn it back to 850 if you're having too much trouble without grids

[mellow linden]

And as an addendum for this, Cyrus needs his Critical Focus tile if you run Roxanne as the Support

[toxic cobalt]

It always depends who is gridded. Generally, if your damage dealer isn't gridded, you're going to have a difficult time I would say.

Well, unless it's like Ash or something.

It depends!

[mellow linden]

Oftentimes there’s 1 or 2 vital tiles that basically every pair will want, but that’s fair

[toxic cobalt]

Back in the day many pairs didn't even have grids

[trail smelt]

speaks in old man voice

Back in my day you whippersnappers, we didn’t have theme skills or 3 star gear or sync grids to boost stats and add skills. By golly, we even had to break level cap to get to level 100! Now all you snotty little brats start off with level 100 available.

Innate skills and moves you had to unlock by using megaphones and sheer gumption, that’s all we had to beat the likes of EX Korrina and Coop Giovanni.

wipes tear from eye

Those were the days lads and lasses, when Olivia was number 1 Queen and Brendan was Number 2 King.

[mellow linden]

The Dark Times, where enemy Syncs removed all your buffs

[trail smelt]

Oh god that completely slipped my mind LMAO

I had to spread my buffs for certain fights for before and after enemy syncs lol

[white gale]

enemy syncs used to remove all your buffs? oh my gosh.. the horror, the horror...

[swift swan]

now imagine if we get a unit that removes all the buffs from the opponents after they sync

[dusty path]

Oh my god yes I remember that 🥲 Imagine dealing with it now, especially gauntlet with 15 minute battles 😅 You'd just have to presync everything

[manic mica]

im good for next week yeah?

[toxic cobalt]

Should be great. Maybe change Leaf to Skyla and be prepared to sub for Agatha

[keen jasper]

Has the next CS been revealed?

[old orchid]

Not yet

[keen jasper]

Hopefully it's going to be Kalos or Galar CS

[old orchid]

No new CS sadly

[paper summit]

it's Sinnoh most likely

[old orchid]

Its either Unova or other regions

Unova was run a month ago

[paper summit]

it's due to be Sinnoh, they cycled through every region already

[old orchid]

Sinnoh CS during an Unova month

[formal vigil]

I mean sinnoh first came during johto villan arc

[keen jasper]

Laughs in Sinnoh CS in Johto VA

[old orchid]

[toxic cobalt]

Sync your stuff DeNa!

[full mesa]

No.

No

[keen jasper]

Let's all have our revenge against electric-weak Aaron with the Zeus rodents

[full mesa]

What about the others? Keep in mind I started CS while Sinnoh came for first time. I have a huge PTSD. It's not only Aaron.

[toxic cobalt]

I did Sinnoh completely ftp! It's doable, you just have to use new team comps

Mostly it's working around the entries

[keen jasper]

I started playing on April 1st, but I started doing CS at the very last day of the Kanto CS back in May

[toxic cobalt]

Bertha is my biggest PTSD. Head start and guaranteed crit.

Brrr

[formal vigil]

I hated steel weak bertha the most

[keen jasper]

I just went straight in for the highest points possible in the Sinnoh CS, my very first MM clear was 7.9k

[toxic cobalt]

I'm surprised there is another week of Kanto after this actually

[keen jasper]

I mean, it accounts for the whole month including some of the days for the next month

[toxic cobalt]

Literal half a day of this month

Assuming japan time

[keen jasper]

I'm just 1 hour behind JP time

I'm still anticipating Tough Skin on a future CS

That way DeNA gives big middle finger to off-typing

[formal vigil]

[paper summit]

well, they have been doing that already for a while with the on type oriented passives and gimmicks many newer pairs got

including grid expansions for older units

[keen jasper]

My teams for next week

[old orchid]

the next CS is confirmed to be Sinnoh

[keen jasper]

Do we know the weaknesses or will it be the same from last time?

[old orchid]

absol hasnt posted the full info yet

he just confirms it

[main crow]

Either way oh boy steel weak Bertha I can't wait

[keen jasper]

My SS Giovanni will send her the ground

Ok I'll go commit self game over now

[manic kiln]

good luck next month

[keen jasper]

Ah, so electric-weak Aaron for only 1 week

[manic kiln]

well we had a bunch of electric pairs in the past few months including ssred and ash, it shouldn't be a problem

[unborn wedge]

WOW THE FINAL WEEK? Aaron is scared as hell of Ash and Red.

[trail smelt]

Of course the moment we get two excellent electric types Aaron that wuss doesn’t use double electric weak

[unborn wedge]

He's making us wait for December Datamine which is hilarious

[spring fable]

I am so fucked next CS

[trail smelt]

Yeah uh

Sinnoh is the stuff of nightmares haha

[full mesa]

No new CS yet?

[old orchid]

Sinnoh next month

[trail smelt]

The breakdown is up there

[full mesa]

I didn't see anything in pins. So Sinnoh it is...

[full mesa]

Definitely. You'll feel the real face of CSMM with Sinnoh. I would advise you to look at the f2p and non-f2p clears before attempting it.

[manic mica]

non ex skyla still fine?

[full mesa]

Yeah. You need speed in steel team.

[manic mica]

noted

[full mesa]

You'll only gonna sync with metagross

[manic mica]

OH GODD

i had ptsd from hoenn cs. what more from sinnoh

itll be my first time fighting sinnoh cs

[full mesa]

If you had PTSD from Hoenn, run.

[formal vigil]

sinnoh is much worse imo

[manic mica]

so ive heard

maybe ill do 850 instead of 1.5k

[full mesa]

You can always read about it and check videos.

[manic mica]

i wanna get [REDACTED] by sinnoh cs by going in blind

/hj